Re: fso-abyss docs anywhere? (Was: GSM errors after 1024 fix)

2009-10-18 Thread David Ford
actually i was vague/misleading in what i wrote.  what i would like to
see is for the end user to be notified in a friendly fashion.  like
injecting a service message into opimd/sms buffer

Petr Vanek wrote:
> It exists already.
>
> ...another way is to use frameworkd with ti_calypso_sleep_mode =
> 'adaptive' and inspect the logs. Frameworkd will tell you, when a real
> recamping exists.
>
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/1024#Bug_detection
>   


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Re: Desktop based on openbox and idesk

2009-10-18 Thread Matthias Huber

As is see, the prob with bzip is solved. :-)
(i was wrong, because of too short reading your mail)


Ali schrieb:
> 1. BATT and NET could be replaced with small icons and that would make
> room for the time on the right- but the bottom may still look crampped
>   
I will try to implement it.
> 2. Maybe have the time go down vertically on the right side of the
> screen. Ghetto diagram for clarity:
> (icon) (icon) (icon) (icon)
> (icon) H
> (icon) H
> (icon) :   
>M
> BATT: x% -  NET: x%M
> oh, and wtf is with the messaging app having an icon that says news?
> Seems more suited for an rss aggregator. Great otherwise, illume never
> did it for me- maybe it was that iphoney look. 
>
>   
God point, i'll try it out.

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Re: [qtmoko] tar and tbz

2009-10-18 Thread Matthias Huber
Ali schrieb:
> Hey list, I'm on qtmoko trying to extract minimoko to the usd card. I
> scp'd the tbz file to the card and attempt to tar xvjf minimoko.tbz and
> get:
> neo:/media/mmcblk0p2# tar xvjf minimoko.tbz 
> tar: bzip2: Cannot exec: No such file or directory
> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
> tar: Child returned status 2
> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
>
> same error even if i put the full file location. anyone having the same
> issue on regular debian? I got around it by extracting on my box and
> scp'ing but that's very undesirable. Is it just an outdated version of
> tar? Or am I using the wrong flags?
>
>   
It is a tbz, what means it is .tar.bz2

the command with the real tar is:
tar xvfj minimoko.tbz
or
bzip2 -d < minimoko.tbz | tar xvf -

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Re: SHR status

2009-10-18 Thread W.Kenworthy
One further hint - if you have any SD card problems, try slowing the SD
clock down and/or adjusting the drive for it.  I have an otherwise
excellent 8G SD card (class 2 I think) that has to have the clock slowed
- if not I get all sorts of corruption and weird things happening - with
a slightly slower clock, its rock solid.  Currently I am using a 16G
class 4 card and that does not need a slow clock so YMMMV.

Details are on the wiki.

BillK



On Mon, 2009-10-19 at 00:00 -0400, Tony McKeehan wrote:
> I have personally had many troubles with SHR in the past. For one, I 
> don't think the Contacts application has ever worked for my SIM card. It 
> immediately crashes. It might be because it hasn't finished loading all 
> of the contacts from SIM, but crashing is a poor way of handling this 
> issue. Also, the lack of a true 'phone' UI seems to be missing the point 
> (although Launcher does some to fix this). Another thing is that I don't 
> enjoy the laggy graphics. Even by setting it to sw_16, it just looks 
> tacky. Not a good decision to have to make.
> 
> That being said, I find the custom Settings apps to be fantastic. The 
> only thing that has never worked is the wifi connect stuff, and I think 
> that it's a problem that everyone has. The illume themes are also very 
> good on the eyes. I'm very impressed with the progress made so far.
> 
> Overall, not for me. I tend to stick with QtMoko/H:1 for reliable phone 
> service and stability. QtMoko's v14 is almost out of the 'getting it to 
> work on the freerunner' stage and onto the 'lets make it a better OS 
> overall' stage which shows the immense progress. H:1 is making huge 
> advancements with their new rev5RC1. The only real issue with it is the 
> lack of ringtone profiles and the wifi app is rather primitive (but you 
> can load others, obviously). I think if you want to have a true 
> 'reliable phone' you should head to one of the ones I just talked about. 
> If you want to be a part of cutting edge phone development, with all of 
> the quirks and caveats, then SHR is what you want.
> 
> Now all we need is for Android-on-Freerunner to fix the glamo issue so 
> it's not laggy and increase the sound quality of calls, and the 
> Freerunner will be making its way to stardom.
> 
> -Tonym
> 
> 
> W.Kenworthy wrote:
> > On Sun, 2009-10-18 at 21:46 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> >   
> >> On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 08:49:02PM +0200, Michal Brzozowski wrote:
> >> 
> >>> 2009/10/18 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra 
> >>>   
>  I'm using SHR Unstable as a daily phone. Has quirks, but IMHO SHR Testing
>  should
>  become what SHR Unstable is right now before the next sync.
>  
> >>> What date is your SHR-u from? I'm using one from August with some updates
> >>> and I miss phone calls from time to time. Is there a new one that seems to
> >>> have reliable telephony?
> >>>   
> >> Current SHR Unstable. All updates applied. And define "reliable" 
> >> telephone...
> >>
> >> More or less reliable than current testing? :)
> >>
> >> Rui
> >>
> >> 
> >
> >
> > Define "reliable telephony" as - "at least as good as the cheap ~$au100
> > phones available from your local carrier".
> >
> > Freerunner: much less :(
> >
> > Billk
> >
> >
> >
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Re: fso-abyss docs anywhere? (Was: GSM errors after 1024 fix)

2009-10-18 Thread Petr Vanek
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 00:32:28 -0400
David Ford  (DF) wrote:

>can't we build in detection for that?
>
>Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
>> (NB: This compact debug output form is not optimal for recognizing
>> #1024 anyways, you should rather watch for CSQ and CREG messages. If
>> CSQ suddenly drops to 99 and you get thrown out of the cell, then
>> it's 100% clear you have #1024).
>>   


It exists already.

...another way is to use frameworkd with ti_calypso_sleep_mode =
'adaptive' and inspect the logs. Frameworkd will tell you, when a real
recamping exists.

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/1024#Bug_detection

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Re: fso-abyss docs anywhere? (Was: GSM errors after 1024 fix)

2009-10-18 Thread David Ford
can't we build in detection for that?

Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
> (NB: This compact debug output form is not optimal for recognizing #1024 
> anyways, you should rather watch for CSQ and CREG messages. If CSQ suddenly 
> drops to 99 and you get thrown out of the cell, then it's 100% clear you have 
> #1024).
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Re: SHR status

2009-10-18 Thread Tony McKeehan
I have personally had many troubles with SHR in the past. For one, I 
don't think the Contacts application has ever worked for my SIM card. It 
immediately crashes. It might be because it hasn't finished loading all 
of the contacts from SIM, but crashing is a poor way of handling this 
issue. Also, the lack of a true 'phone' UI seems to be missing the point 
(although Launcher does some to fix this). Another thing is that I don't 
enjoy the laggy graphics. Even by setting it to sw_16, it just looks 
tacky. Not a good decision to have to make.

That being said, I find the custom Settings apps to be fantastic. The 
only thing that has never worked is the wifi connect stuff, and I think 
that it's a problem that everyone has. The illume themes are also very 
good on the eyes. I'm very impressed with the progress made so far.

Overall, not for me. I tend to stick with QtMoko/H:1 for reliable phone 
service and stability. QtMoko's v14 is almost out of the 'getting it to 
work on the freerunner' stage and onto the 'lets make it a better OS 
overall' stage which shows the immense progress. H:1 is making huge 
advancements with their new rev5RC1. The only real issue with it is the 
lack of ringtone profiles and the wifi app is rather primitive (but you 
can load others, obviously). I think if you want to have a true 
'reliable phone' you should head to one of the ones I just talked about. 
If you want to be a part of cutting edge phone development, with all of 
the quirks and caveats, then SHR is what you want.

Now all we need is for Android-on-Freerunner to fix the glamo issue so 
it's not laggy and increase the sound quality of calls, and the 
Freerunner will be making its way to stardom.

-Tonym


W.Kenworthy wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-10-18 at 21:46 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
>   
>> On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 08:49:02PM +0200, Michal Brzozowski wrote:
>> 
>>> 2009/10/18 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra 
>>>   
 I'm using SHR Unstable as a daily phone. Has quirks, but IMHO SHR Testing
 should
 become what SHR Unstable is right now before the next sync.
 
>>> What date is your SHR-u from? I'm using one from August with some updates
>>> and I miss phone calls from time to time. Is there a new one that seems to
>>> have reliable telephony?
>>>   
>> Current SHR Unstable. All updates applied. And define "reliable" telephone...
>>
>> More or less reliable than current testing? :)
>>
>> Rui
>>
>> 
>
>
> Define "reliable telephony" as - "at least as good as the cheap ~$au100
> phones available from your local carrier".
>
> Freerunner: much less :(
>
> Billk
>
>
>
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Re: SHR status

2009-10-18 Thread W.Kenworthy
On Sun, 2009-10-18 at 21:46 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 08:49:02PM +0200, Michal Brzozowski wrote:
> > 2009/10/18 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra 
> > > I'm using SHR Unstable as a daily phone. Has quirks, but IMHO SHR Testing
> > > should
> > > become what SHR Unstable is right now before the next sync.
> > 
> > What date is your SHR-u from? I'm using one from August with some updates
> > and I miss phone calls from time to time. Is there a new one that seems to
> > have reliable telephony?
> 
> Current SHR Unstable. All updates applied. And define "reliable" telephone...
> 
> More or less reliable than current testing? :)
> 
> Rui
> 


Define "reliable telephony" as - "at least as good as the cheap ~$au100
phones available from your local carrier".

Freerunner: much less :(

Billk




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Re: [qtmoko] tar and tbz

2009-10-18 Thread Ali
On Sun, 2009-10-18 at 22:40 -0200, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote:
> Hi Ali,
> 

> apt-get install bzip2 :)
> 
> Regards,
> 
lol, so obvious :( but I'm surprised it's not in debian by default.
Ubuntu spoiled me (I think it's installed by default on it). 


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Re: Desktop based on openbox and idesk

2009-10-18 Thread Ali
On Sun, 2009-10-18 at 13:52 +0200, Matthias Huber wrote:
> Dear List,
> 
> today i released a minimalistic, simplified Desktop Handler based on 
> openbox and idesk on the wiki:
> 
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Minimoko
> 
> Try it if you want and give me feedback!
> 
very sweet, I love the unique look. One thing that really bugged me;
ever since I got my very first cell phone I stopped wearing watches,
opting to grab my phone and look at the time there instead. Comming out
of suspend, unlocking, hitting shr-settings and date/time takes way too
long just to see the time. Screen space at the bottom is taken so two
suggestions
1. BATT and NET could be replaced with small icons and that would make
room for the time on the right- but the bottom may still look crampped
2. Maybe have the time go down vertically on the right side of the
screen. Ghetto diagram for clarity:
(icon) (icon) (icon) (icon)
(icon) H
(icon) H
(icon) :   
   M
BATT: x% -  NET: x%M
oh, and wtf is with the messaging app having an icon that says news?
Seems more suited for an rss aggregator. Great otherwise, illume never
did it for me- maybe it was that iphoney look. 


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Re: SHR status

2009-10-18 Thread W.Kenworthy
are you using the latest moko11 GSM firmware? - anything else and missed
messages are a distinct possibility.

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing

BillK

On Sun, 2009-10-18 at 20:49 +0200, Michal Brzozowski wrote:
> 2009/10/18 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra  
>  
> I'm using SHR Unstable as a daily phone. Has quirks, but IMHO
> SHR Testing should
> become what SHR Unstable is right now before the next sync.
> 
> What date is your SHR-u from? I'm using one from August with some
> updates and I miss phone calls from time to time. Is there a new one
> that seems to have reliable telephony?
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Re: [SHR] new illume + elm theme

2009-10-18 Thread Bernd Prünster
Marcel wrote:
> ...
New version is out, which features a brand new bootscreen.
just in case: instructions on how to set bootscreen can be found @ 
jmccloud.jm.funpic.de

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Re: [qtmoko] tar and tbz

2009-10-18 Thread Tiago Bortoletto Vaz
Hi Ali,

On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 04:46:23PM -0700, Ali wrote:
> Hey list, I'm on qtmoko trying to extract minimoko to the usd card. I
> scp'd the tbz file to the card and attempt to tar xvjf minimoko.tbz and
> get:
> neo:/media/mmcblk0p2# tar xvjf minimoko.tbz 
> tar: bzip2: Cannot exec: No such file or directory
> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
> tar: Child returned status 2
> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
> 
> same error even if i put the full file location. anyone having the same
> issue on regular debian? I got around it by extracting on my box and
> scp'ing but that's very undesirable. Is it just an outdated version of
> tar? Or am I using the wrong flags?

apt-get install bzip2 :)

Regards,

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Re: SHR status

2009-10-18 Thread Warren Baird
I'm running a build from August but last upgraded on Sept 5th and it's
pretty stable.   Had a few reports of bad audio quality, and a couple of
times where I've missed calls but it's fairly rare.

I spent a couple of weeks running the shr-testing candidate - which I
believe was basically a copy of the Sept 15th build of shr-u, and it was a
lot less stable.

Warren


On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Niels Heyvaert
wrote:

>
><8b48b1570910181149v43786743ue18d3346c1298...@mail.gmail.com>
>
>
>  <3494db260910181157p39cfadcv55ef478b934a8...@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> MIME-Version: 1.0
>
>
> >
> > I'm using SHR Unstable as a daily phone. Has quirks=2C but IMHO SHR
> Testi=
> ng should
> >
> > become what SHR Unstable is right now before the next sync.
> >
> >
> > What date is your SHR-u from? I'm using one from August with some
> updates=
>  and I miss phone calls from time to time. Is there a new one that seems
> to=
>  have reliable telephony?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I would advice to go to the latest unstable from 6 of September!
> >
>
> I would advice to stay away from the September release and stick to the
> Aug=
> ust one. It's a mess. For example:
> =20
> - FR is ringing=2C but no screen to pick up
> - Answering second incomming call is still borked=2C despite some work on
> i=
> t
> - Incomming call during shutdown results in infinite loop of vibrating
> batt=
> ery and playing sound
> - Random crashes of phone log application
> - Phone refusing to suspend and keeps waking up after only a few seconds
> =20
> I've been rebooting and removing the battery to get the phone back to its
> s=
> ences almost every day now. This did not happen with the August release.
> =20
> My experience with the August release was a lot more stable.=20
> =20
> Niels.   =20
> _
> Reageer op foto=92s van je vrienden en bekijk hun reacties op de jouwe.
> Geg=
> arandeerd hilariteit!=20
> http://www.microsoft.com/belux/nl/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx=
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Re: Sync Calendar with evolution

2009-10-18 Thread Ali
On Sun, 2009-10-18 at 20:41 +0200, Michael Pilgermann wrote:
> Ali,
> 
> I filed a feature request for that on PISI
> (https://projects.openmoko.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=286&group_id=156&atid=673)
> ...
> 
thank you for doing that, hopefully someone will take care of it, if not
at least it's there.
> I am really short in time these days; that will be better from December
> onwards; I will have a deeper look then.
>
> best regards
> Michael
> 
> PS: I have almost finished syncml support for PISI ... but - not before
> December again ...
> 
> 
looking forward to it! Free time is hard to come by; if you (or the PISI
team) want to delegate any non-programming related tasks to me, I would
be happy to lend a hand where I can.


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[qtmoko] tar and tbz

2009-10-18 Thread Ali
Hey list, I'm on qtmoko trying to extract minimoko to the usd card. I
scp'd the tbz file to the card and attempt to tar xvjf minimoko.tbz and
get:
neo:/media/mmcblk0p2# tar xvjf minimoko.tbz 
tar: bzip2: Cannot exec: No such file or directory
tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
tar: Child returned status 2
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors

same error even if i put the full file location. anyone having the same
issue on regular debian? I got around it by extracting on my box and
scp'ing but that's very undesirable. Is it just an outdated version of
tar? Or am I using the wrong flags?


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Re: [brainstorm]Online contact sync

2009-10-18 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Atilla Filiz  wrote:
> I was thinking about storing my contact list online. I don't feel
> comfortable giving my contacts' phone numbers to google or someone else.


> Before sending contact info, the phone will encrypt the data(vcard?)
> with gpg for the owner's self.

Why not encrypt it, and upload to google? Each field should be
encrypted, to be shared with google.

Laszlo

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RE: SHR status

2009-10-18 Thread Niels Heyvaert

<8b48b1570910181149v43786743ue18d3346c1298...@mail.gmail.com>
 

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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
MIME-Version: 1.0


>
> I'm using SHR Unstable as a daily phone. Has quirks=2C but IMHO SHR Testi=
ng should
>
> become what SHR Unstable is right now before the next sync.
>
>
> What date is your SHR-u from? I'm using one from August with some updates=
 and I miss phone calls from time to time. Is there a new one that seems to=
 have reliable telephony?
>
>
>
>
> I would advice to go to the latest unstable from 6 of September!
>

I would advice to stay away from the September release and stick to the Aug=
ust one. It's a mess. For example:
=20
- FR is ringing=2C but no screen to pick up
- Answering second incomming call is still borked=2C despite some work on i=
t
- Incomming call during shutdown results in infinite loop of vibrating batt=
ery and playing sound
- Random crashes of phone log application
- Phone refusing to suspend and keeps waking up after only a few seconds
=20
I've been rebooting and removing the battery to get the phone back to its s=
ences almost every day now. This did not happen with the August release.
=20
My experience with the August release was a lot more stable.=20
=20
Niels.   =20
_
Reageer op foto=92s van je vrienden en bekijk hun reacties op de jouwe. Geg=
arandeerd hilariteit!=20
http://www.microsoft.com/belux/nl/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx=

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Re: SHR status

2009-10-18 Thread Christ van Willegen
On 10/18/09, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra  wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 08:49:02PM +0200, Michal Brzozowski wrote:
>> 2009/10/18 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra 
>> > I'm using SHR Unstable as a daily phone. Has quirks, but IMHO SHR
>> > Testing
>> > should
>> > become what SHR Unstable is right now before the next sync.
>>
>> What date is your SHR-u from? I'm using one from August with some updates
>> and I miss phone calls from time to time. Is there a new one that seems to
>> have reliable telephony?
>
> Current SHR Unstable. All updates applied. And define "reliable"
> telephone...
>
> More or less reliable than current testing? :)
>
> Rui
>
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Re: [SHR] new illume + elm theme

2009-10-18 Thread Marcel
Am Sonntag, den 18.10.2009, 22:41 +0200 schrieb Bernd Prünster: 
> Marcel wrote:
> > Am Sonntag, den 18.10.2009, 21:54 +0200 schrieb Bernd Prünster: 
> >   
> >> Marcel wrote:
> >> 
> >>> flaunch's background still has offset to the right... Removed the
> >>> package before installing the new version and deleted ~/.e. Anything I
> >>> forgot?
> >>>   
> >>>   
> >> you did restart e?!
> >> 
> >
> > Of course, several times. First just installed the new package (new
> > version number would be useful) over the old one - didn't help. In
> > course of that, I also killed e config and restarted X and re-configured
> > the theme setting, no change. Then I removed the package and reinstalled
> > it afterwards, restarted x, still no change. Iirc I even reinstalled the
> > elm theme package.
> lol, now it hit me (i just retried it several times) opkg.org fucks up 
> updating packages (uploading new package version)
> it hit hit me, because u said same version number... i changed version 
> number of cource. but opkg.org still refuses to upload package.
> so i uploaded it to my site. the opkg.org install command is now 
> correct, but just in case heres the dl link: 
> http://jmccloud.jm.funpic.de/gry/e-wm-theme-gry_0.2-r1_armv4t.ipk

Aaah, that looks much better. Thank you! :)


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Re: SHR status

2009-10-18 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 08:49:02PM +0200, Michal Brzozowski wrote:
> 2009/10/18 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra 
> > I'm using SHR Unstable as a daily phone. Has quirks, but IMHO SHR Testing
> > should
> > become what SHR Unstable is right now before the next sync.
> 
> What date is your SHR-u from? I'm using one from August with some updates
> and I miss phone calls from time to time. Is there a new one that seems to
> have reliable telephony?

Current SHR Unstable. All updates applied. And define "reliable" telephone...

More or less reliable than current testing? :)

Rui

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Re: [SHR] new illume + elm theme

2009-10-18 Thread Bernd Prünster
Marcel wrote:
> Am Sonntag, den 18.10.2009, 21:54 +0200 schrieb Bernd Prünster: 
>   
>> Marcel wrote:
>> 
>>> flaunch's background still has offset to the right... Removed the
>>> package before installing the new version and deleted ~/.e. Anything I
>>> forgot?
>>>   
>>>   
>> you did restart e?!
>> 
>
> Of course, several times. First just installed the new package (new
> version number would be useful) over the old one - didn't help. In
> course of that, I also killed e config and restarted X and re-configured
> the theme setting, no change. Then I removed the package and reinstalled
> it afterwards, restarted x, still no change. Iirc I even reinstalled the
> elm theme package.
lol, now it hit me (i just retried it several times) opkg.org fucks up 
updating packages (uploading new package version)
it hit hit me, because u said same version number... i changed version 
number of cource. but opkg.org still refuses to upload package.
so i uploaded it to my site. the opkg.org install command is now 
correct, but just in case heres the dl link: 
http://jmccloud.jm.funpic.de/gry/e-wm-theme-gry_0.2-r1_armv4t.ipk

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Re: [SHR] new illume + elm theme

2009-10-18 Thread Marcel
Am Sonntag, den 18.10.2009, 21:54 +0200 schrieb Bernd Prünster: 
> Marcel wrote:
> > flaunch's background still has offset to the right... Removed the
> > package before installing the new version and deleted ~/.e. Anything I
> > forgot?
> >   
> you did restart e?!

Of course, several times. First just installed the new package (new
version number would be useful) over the old one - didn't help. In
course of that, I also killed e config and restarted X and re-configured
the theme setting, no change. Then I removed the package and reinstalled
it afterwards, restarted x, still no change. Iirc I even reinstalled the
elm theme package.

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Re: SHR status

2009-10-18 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/10/18 Tony Berth :
> On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 9:49 PM, Michal Brzozowski 
> wrote:
>> What date is your SHR-u from? I'm using one from August with some updates
>> and I miss phone calls from time to time. Is there a new one that seems to
>> have reliable telephony?
>
> I would advice to go to the latest unstable from 6 of September!

If this is a known fixed problem, can anyone say if it was a
frameworkd problem (=> could also be the cause of sometimes missing
incoming SMS in my debian/zhone setup) or a UI problem (=> not)?

Thanks,
  Neil

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Re: fso-abyss docs anywhere? (Was: GSM errors after 1024 fix)

2009-10-18 Thread arne anka
>How did you ever get it to work in the first place? I noticed the  
> Debian
> package appearing and installed it, but never found all of the required
> documentation to actually use it:

i don't remember exactly, but i think the only change was setting the  
muxer to fso-abyss in frameworkd.conf.


> [snip]
>> after several frameworkd restarts and two reboots i decided to revert to
>> gsmwhtsitsnamemuxer, which seems to work far better
>
>Where 'far better' means crashes at the slightest provocation (such as
> (trying to) ping across a GPRS connection).

well, yeah.
once a month i get a call -- and it happened, when using  
gsmwhatsitsnamemuxer. fr rang but i couldn't pick up :-(
switched back to fso-abyss, which loses connection on resume -- no calls  
at all.

for the time being i switched to shr-u, which i flashed last time my  
debian/fso broke.
at least telephony is working so far.

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Re: [SHR-U] web manager 0.2

2009-10-18 Thread Baruch Even
Tony Berth wrote:
> when clicking on the messages menu item, 'Loading...' is displayed without
> retrieving the SMS messages from my FR. Is that a bug or am I doing
> something wrong?

It could be that opimd is not active yet, or that you have an older 
frameworkd that has an old api of opimd?

web-manager lacks serious error checking and the web-app part is only 
crudely written. The only way to debug it right now is with firebug, the 
firefox extension. If you can install that and see how the app behaves I 
can try to help more.

Baruch


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Re: [SHR] new illume + elm theme

2009-10-18 Thread Bernd Prünster
Marcel wrote:
> flaunch's background still has offset to the right... Removed the
> package before installing the new version and deleted ~/.e. Anything I
> forgot?
>   
you did restart e?!

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Re: [SHR] new illume + elm theme

2009-10-18 Thread Marcel
Am Sonntag, den 18.10.2009, 20:51 +0200 schrieb Bernd Prünster: 
> Marcel wrote:
> > I like your fast themes, thank you! :)
> >
> > Still, I have a problem: In your screenshots, the desktop icon's
> > captions have a white border which makes them readable on dark
> > backgrounds (like my one). That's missing for me. Also, the white bg
> > rect of the flaunch-bar on the bottom seems off about 1/3 a button's
> > width to the right, see screenshot.
> > http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/222c74cd8f93199a0ebdfdefe6c339b3.png
> >
> > Though the elementary theme is fine as far as I see.
> >
> > --
> > Marcel
> >
> >
> >   
> issues are fixed.
> new package is on opkg.org
> 
> also scrolling in illume launcher shoud be faster now

flaunch's background still has offset to the right... Removed the
package before installing the new version and deleted ~/.e. Anything I
forgot?


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Re: SHR status

2009-10-18 Thread Tony Berth
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 9:49 PM, Michal Brzozowski wrote:

> 2009/10/18 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra 
>>
>>
>> I'm using SHR Unstable as a daily phone. Has quirks, but IMHO SHR Testing
>> should
>> become what SHR Unstable is right now before the next sync.
>>
>
> What date is your SHR-u from? I'm using one from August with some updates
> and I miss phone calls from time to time. Is there a new one that seems to
> have reliable telephony?
>
>
>
I would advice to go to the latest unstable from 6 of September!

Cheers

Tony
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[SHR-U] web manager 0.2

2009-10-18 Thread Tony Berth
when clicking on the messages menu item, 'Loading...' is displayed without
retrieving the SMS messages from my FR. Is that a bug or am I doing
something wrong?

Thanks

Tony
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Re: [brainstorm]Online contact sync

2009-10-18 Thread Michael Pilgermann
ajvogel wrote:
> 
> 
> Neil Jerram wrote:
>> 2009/10/18 Atilla Filiz 
>>
>>> I don't know others but I occasionally switch distros and have multiple
>>> computers. I thought different people might be in the same condition. I
>>> actually don't how many people use Google contacts, but it's there.
>>
>> OK, so this is primarily something for your own use only.  You also
>> mentioned giving contacts to other people - hence my uncertainty - but I
>> guess you would do that from a copy of the contacts on one of your
>> computers, and not from the online repository.
>>
>> So the next question is what form does the online repository need to take?
>> In the simplest case it could be just a plain file (e.g. vcf format) that
>> you upload to the web space that your ISP provides for you...
>>
>>
> Maybe the dev`s for pisi could extend it to include syncing to an vcf file
> over ftp/ssh? Maybe it already does?

Indeed it does - the default configuration file
(https://projects.openmoko.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/*checkout*/trunk/conf?rev=152&root=pisi)
shows two examples:

##
## 2.5)
## Remote VCF file (on a Webdav-Server)
##
[remoteVCF]
description= Remote VCF on Webdav
module=contacts_remotevcf
url=http://webdav.davserver.net/private/pim/
file=contacts.vcf
username=
password=


the following example is ICS - but you can apply exactly the same to vcf ...


##
## 1.5)
## Remote ICS file (on a SSH-Server (scp))
##
## - make sure, you don't need a password for this account (e.g. key
file without password)
## - I noticed, you should create your key file on Openmoko - otherwise
will bring an error:
##  dropbearkey -t rsa -f ~/.ssh/id_rsa
## This example is an ICalendar on your desktop machine, which you have
configured in
## Sunbird / Lightning as 'file:///home/username/test.ics' (on the desktop)
##
[sshIcs]
description=ICalendar on SSH Server
module=calendar_ics
path=/tmp/pisi-tmpcal.ics
preprocess=scp -i /home/root/.ssh/id_rsa
usern...@192.168.0.200:/home/username/test.ics /tmp/pisi-tmpcal.ics
postprocess=scp /tmp/pisi-tmpcal.ics
usern...@192.168.0.200:/home/username/test.ics && rm /tmp/pisi-tmpcal.ics


ask me if you need more input ...

best regards
Michael

> 
> 
> Neil Jerram wrote:
>> But you mentioned git...  Is that because you are also looking to track
>> changes over time?
>>
> 
> git might not be the best thing here, since encrypting the vcf would
> essentially create a completely different file each time.
> 
> 


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Re: [SHR] new illume + elm theme

2009-10-18 Thread Bernd Prünster
Marcel wrote:
> I like your fast themes, thank you! :)
>
> Still, I have a problem: In your screenshots, the desktop icon's
> captions have a white border which makes them readable on dark
> backgrounds (like my one). That's missing for me. Also, the white bg
> rect of the flaunch-bar on the bottom seems off about 1/3 a button's
> width to the right, see screenshot.
> http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/222c74cd8f93199a0ebdfdefe6c339b3.png
>
> Though the elementary theme is fine as far as I see.
>
> --
> Marcel
>
>
>   
issues are fixed.
new package is on opkg.org

also scrolling in illume launcher shoud be faster now

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Re: SHR status

2009-10-18 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/10/18 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra 
>
>
> I'm using SHR Unstable as a daily phone. Has quirks, but IMHO SHR Testing
> should
> become what SHR Unstable is right now before the next sync.
>

What date is your SHR-u from? I'm using one from August with some updates
and I miss phone calls from time to time. Is there a new one that seems to
have reliable telephony?
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Re: Sync Calendar with evolution

2009-10-18 Thread Michael Pilgermann
Ali,

I filed a feature request for that on PISI
(https://projects.openmoko.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=286&group_id=156&atid=673)
...

I am really short in time these days; that will be better from December
onwards; I will have a deeper look then.

best regards
Michael

PS: I have almost finished syncml support for PISI ... but - not before
December again ...


Ali wrote:
> Hi, is anyone working on an opensync plugin for qtmoko? I'm really
> starting to miss the ability to sync my calendar automatically- and I
> love qtmoko. I guess I could install evolution on the phone but that's
> way overkill and will probably bring my phone to a crawl. That being
> said, at this point I don't care which distro I have to use to sync, I
> just want it to happen.
> 
> I've heared of a program called Pisi, will it sync directly with
> evolution on my desktop, or do I have to use google calendar as a middle
> man?
> 
> Long question short, what are the distros/programs I can use to sync my
> calendar in evolution to the freerunner, preferably without using the
> internet? 
> 
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Re: SHR status

2009-10-18 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 11:01:15AM -0700, abatrour wrote:
> I was wondering what the status of SHR is. I've been using android lately so
> I am not caught up as to the progress of SHR.

I'm using SHR Unstable as a daily phone. Has quirks, but IMHO SHR Testing should
become what SHR Unstable is right now before the next sync.

This way people would have a somewhat stable release in Testing to try out stuff

Rui

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SHR status

2009-10-18 Thread abatrour

I was wondering what the status of SHR is. I've been using android lately so
I am not caught up as to the progress of SHR.
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Re: evopedia 0.2.3 release

2009-10-18 Thread Yorick Moko
Hi,

I really like evopedia, but encountered a small problem with the latest
update: there links that are on the top of the page don't get displayed
(just a very small, hard to hit, square)
as you can see on this scap:

http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/89e465bb9b6b7942ef987196600309be.png

Kind regards
y

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Christian  wrote:

> Klaus Fürth schrieb:
> > Hi!
> >
> > Christian schrieb am 08.10.2009 23:51:
> >> evopedia version 0.2.3 is ready, the main new features include:
> >
> >
> > Great app, thank you very much! I love it!
> >
> > Do you plan to cache the downloaded images for offline use (with
> > user-defineable size)? This would be a great feature. A pre-cache-fill
> > (for example with images of most popular sites) would be great.
>
> At the moment, this is not planned. Actually evopedia has nothing to do
> wth downloading the images, this is done by the browser (of course, it
> could be changed). Perhaps you can try to configure the browser to cache
> the images. I don't think that downloading some images in advance is a
> good idea. That's at least not how I use evopedia, I don't read popular
> pages, but of course, if the community convinces me, I will implement it.
>
> Kind regards,
> Christian
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Re: [brainstorm]Online contact sync

2009-10-18 Thread ajvogel



Neil Jerram wrote:
> 
> 2009/10/18 Atilla Filiz 
> 
>> I don't know others but I occasionally switch distros and have multiple
>> computers. I thought different people might be in the same condition. I
>> actually don't how many people use Google contacts, but it's there.
> 
> 
> OK, so this is primarily something for your own use only.  You also
> mentioned giving contacts to other people - hence my uncertainty - but I
> guess you would do that from a copy of the contacts on one of your
> computers, and not from the online repository.
> 
> So the next question is what form does the online repository need to take?
> In the simplest case it could be just a plain file (e.g. vcf format) that
> you upload to the web space that your ISP provides for you...
> 
> 
Maybe the dev`s for pisi could extend it to include syncing to an vcf file
over ftp/ssh? Maybe it already does?


Neil Jerram wrote:
> 
> But you mentioned git...  Is that because you are also looking to track
> changes over time?
> 

git might not be the best thing here, since encrypting the vcf would
essentially create a completely different file each time.


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Re: [brainstorm]Online contact sync

2009-10-18 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/10/18 Atilla Filiz 

> I don't know others but I occasionally switch distros and have multiple
> computers. I thought different people might be in the same condition. I
> actually don't how many people use Google contacts, but it's there.


OK, so this is primarily something for your own use only.  You also
mentioned giving contacts to other people - hence my uncertainty - but I
guess you would do that from a copy of the contacts on one of your
computers, and not from the online repository.

So the next question is what form does the online repository need to take?
In the simplest case it could be just a plain file (e.g. vcf format) that
you upload to the web space that your ISP provides for you...

But you mentioned git...  Is that because you are also looking to track
changes over time?
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Re: [brainstorm]Online contact sync

2009-10-18 Thread Atilla Filiz
I don't know others but I occasionally switch distros and have multiple
computers. I thought different people might be in the same condition. I
actually don't how many people use Google contacts, but it's there.

On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Neil Jerram wrote:

>
> I'm not clear what you mean.  Why do you want your contacts to be online?
>
>  Neil
>

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Re: [brainstorm]Online contact sync

2009-10-18 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/10/18 Atilla Filiz :
> Hello;
> I was thinking about storing my contact list online. I don't feel
> comfortable giving my contacts' phone numbers to google or someone else.
> Instead, we can open a repository(possibly svn/git based) to store contacts
> online. Before sending contact info, the phone will encrypt the data(vcard?)
> with gpg for the owner's self. Of course sending vcards to people you know
> is not very hard once you get their public keys. I think I can work
> something out with python, but I don't know which distros have vcard
> integration. What do you think?

I'm not clear what you mean.  Why do you want your contacts to be online?

  Neil

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Re: Desktop based on openbox and idesk

2009-10-18 Thread Matthias Huber
Michal Brzozowski schrieb:
> How do you switch between applications?
with /etc/xdg/openbox/rc.xml:

  

  
  
no
yes
no
yes>
yes
yes
  




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Re: Desktop based on openbox and idesk

2009-10-18 Thread Michal Brzozowski
How do you switch between applications?

2009/10/18 Matthias Huber 

>
> Dear List,
>
> today i released a minimalistic, simplified Desktop Handler based on
> openbox and idesk on the wiki:
>
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Minimoko
>
> Try it if you want and give me feedback!
>
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Re: fso-abyss docs anywhere? (Was: GSM errors after 1024 fix)

2009-10-18 Thread Petr Vanek
>Yes, just use frameworkd with ti_calypso_sleep_mode = 'adaptive' and
>inspect the logs. Frameworkd will tell you, when a real recamping
>exists.

makes sense, thank you

Petr


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Re: Desktop based on openbox and idesk

2009-10-18 Thread Matthias Huber

ajvogel schrieb:


matzehuber wrote:
  

Dear List,

today i released a minimalistic, simplified Desktop Handler based on 
openbox and idesk on the wiki:


http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Minimoko

Try it if you want and give me feedback!






great, its nice to have an alternatives to illume. Ideally, openbox can be
packaged and placed in the SHR feeds. So those of us who want to use it can
just install it.


  


... and idesk maybe too.

Openbox needed to be patched a little bit. (window size-handling for the 
om-apps) in openbox/client.c


This patch is a little bit hacky and maybe not fully correct.
So it would be good, if one of the X11-Specialists had a look on it.


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[brainstorm]Online contact sync

2009-10-18 Thread Atilla Filiz
Hello;
I was thinking about storing my contact list online. I don't feel
comfortable giving my contacts' phone numbers to google or someone else.
Instead, we can open a repository(possibly svn/git based) to store contacts
online. Before sending contact info, the phone will encrypt the data(vcard?)
with gpg for the owner's self. Of course sending vcards to people you know
is not very hard once you get their public keys. I think I can work
something out with python, but I don't know which distros have vcard
integration. What do you think?

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Re: Desktop based on openbox and idesk

2009-10-18 Thread ajvogel



matzehuber wrote:
> 
> 
> Dear List,
> 
> today i released a minimalistic, simplified Desktop Handler based on 
> openbox and idesk on the wiki:
> 
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Minimoko
> 
> Try it if you want and give me feedback!
> 
> 
> 

great, its nice to have an alternatives to illume. Ideally, openbox can be
packaged and placed in the SHR feeds. So those of us who want to use it can
just install it.


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Re: fso-abyss docs anywhere? (Was: GSM errors after 1024 fix)

2009-10-18 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
>How about this output:

>[2009-10-18 13:37:02.701925] Signal : cid=9E4A, lac=17A2
>[2009-10-18 13:37:26.813505] Signal : cid=7149, lac=17A2
>[2009-10-18 13:41:22.576405] Signal : cid=9E4A, lac=17A2
>[2009-10-18 13:45:48.512750] Signal : cid=7149, lac=17A2
>[2009-10-18 13:49:10.453532] Signal : cid=9E4A, lac=17A2

No recamping either, just handovers.

If there is a better way - script of determining whether the 1024 has
been dealt with correctly, it would be helpful...

Yes, just use frameworkd with ti_calypso_sleep_mode = 'adaptive' and inspect 
the logs. Frameworkd will tell you, when a real recamping exists.

:M:

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[QtMoko] Calling problems

2009-10-18 Thread Atilla Filiz
Hello;
I flashed QtMoko v14 yesterday and tried to talk. When I am called, I tap to
answer, but the other side keeps getting the "ringing" tone and no
connection is made. When I try to call somebody, my phone tries to call
indefinitely, but the other side never rings. Did anyone have similar
experience?

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Re: fso-abyss docs anywhere? (Was: GSM errors after 1024 fix)

2009-10-18 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 10/18/09, Petr Vanek  wrote:
>>>  I get messages like
>>>[2009-10-18 07:51:27.107655] Signal : cid=4E91, lac=006A
>>>[2009-10-18 07:52:45.145288] Signal : cid=4E7B, lac=006A
>>>[2009-10-18 07:53:18.218122] Signal : cid=4E91, lac=006A
>>>...
>>>  So I guess my #1024 is not fixed :-(
>>
>>The three lines you quoted are not showing #1024. Again, frequent cell
>>_handovers_ are perfectly normal. #1024 is about dropping out of a
>>cell, then recamping into it, e.g. it looks like that:
>>
>>[2009-10-18 07:51:27.107655] Signal : cid=4E91, lac=006A
>>[2009-10-18 07:52:45.145288] Signal : cid=4E91, lac=006A
>>[2009-10-18 07:53:18.218122] Signal : cid=4E91, lac=006A
>>
>>(NB: This compact debug output form is not optimal for recognizing
>>#1024 anyways, you should rather watch for CSQ and CREG messages. If
>>CSQ suddenly drops to 99 and you get thrown out of the cell, then it's
>>100% clear you have #1024).
>
> How about this output:
>
> [2009-10-18 13:37:02.701925] Signal : cid=9E4A, lac=17A2
> [2009-10-18 13:37:26.813505] Signal : cid=7149, lac=17A2
> [2009-10-18 13:41:22.576405] Signal : cid=9E4A, lac=17A2
> [2009-10-18 13:45:48.512750] Signal : cid=7149, lac=17A2
> [2009-10-18 13:49:10.453532] Signal : cid=9E4A, lac=17A2
>
> If there is a better way - script of determining whether the 1024 has
> been dealt with correctly, it would be helpful...
>
> thank you
>
> Petr

Looks normally, not like #1024.

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Re: fso-abyss docs anywhere? (Was: GSM errors after 1024 fix)

2009-10-18 Thread Petr Vanek
>>  I get messages like 
>>[2009-10-18 07:51:27.107655] Signal : cid=4E91, lac=006A
>>[2009-10-18 07:52:45.145288] Signal : cid=4E7B, lac=006A
>>[2009-10-18 07:53:18.218122] Signal : cid=4E91, lac=006A
>>...
>>  So I guess my #1024 is not fixed :-(
>
>The three lines you quoted are not showing #1024. Again, frequent cell 
>_handovers_ are perfectly normal. #1024 is about dropping out of a
>cell, then recamping into it, e.g. it looks like that:
>
>[2009-10-18 07:51:27.107655] Signal : cid=4E91, lac=006A
>[2009-10-18 07:52:45.145288] Signal : cid=4E91, lac=006A
>[2009-10-18 07:53:18.218122] Signal : cid=4E91, lac=006A
>
>(NB: This compact debug output form is not optimal for recognizing
>#1024 anyways, you should rather watch for CSQ and CREG messages. If
>CSQ suddenly drops to 99 and you get thrown out of the cell, then it's
>100% clear you have #1024).

How about this output:

[2009-10-18 13:37:02.701925] Signal : cid=9E4A, lac=17A2
[2009-10-18 13:37:26.813505] Signal : cid=7149, lac=17A2
[2009-10-18 13:41:22.576405] Signal : cid=9E4A, lac=17A2
[2009-10-18 13:45:48.512750] Signal : cid=7149, lac=17A2
[2009-10-18 13:49:10.453532] Signal : cid=9E4A, lac=17A2

If there is a better way - script of determining whether the 1024 has
been dealt with correctly, it would be helpful...

thank you

Petr



 



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Re: [SHR] getting an USB dongle to work

2009-10-18 Thread rhn
Rask Ingemann Lambertsen wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 05:39:23PM +0200, rhn wrote:
>> Today, I became an owner of a new shiny USB network device. Due to poor WiFi 
>> reception indoors, this is a wired Ethernet adapter.
>>
>> On to the point - the device uses the dm9601 driver, which happens to be 
>> packaged in the SHR feeds. However, the driver is not loaded automatically, 
>> and doesn't work after manual modprobe && depmod.
>> Some research on the desktop showed that dm9601 depends on usb_net and mii. 
>> However, these two are not present in SHR feeds.
> 
>That would be a packaging bug, because drivers/net/usb/Kconfig lists
> the correct dependencies:
> 
> config USB_USBNET
> tristate "Multi-purpose USB Networking Framework"
> select MII
> [...]
> config USB_NET_DM9601
> tristate "Davicom DM9601 based USB 1.1 10/100 ethernet devices"
> depends on USB_USBNET
> select CRC32
> [...]
> 
>So try bugging the person doing the SHR kernel package.
> 
Thanks for the hint.
I tried to do the necessary changes myself trial-and-error method, but couldn't 
get the kernel to compile. I'm going to ask more about that in shr-devel list.
Cheers
rhn

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Desktop based on openbox and idesk

2009-10-18 Thread Matthias Huber

Dear List,

today i released a minimalistic, simplified Desktop Handler based on 
openbox and idesk on the wiki:

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Minimoko

Try it if you want and give me feedback!



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Re: [SHR] getting an USB dongle to work

2009-10-18 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 05:39:23PM +0200, rhn wrote:
> Today, I became an owner of a new shiny USB network device. Due to poor WiFi 
> reception indoors, this is a wired Ethernet adapter.
> 
> On to the point - the device uses the dm9601 driver, which happens to be 
> packaged in the SHR feeds. However, the driver is not loaded automatically, 
> and doesn't work after manual modprobe && depmod.
> Some research on the desktop showed that dm9601 depends on usb_net and mii. 
> However, these two are not present in SHR feeds.

   That would be a packaging bug, because drivers/net/usb/Kconfig lists
the correct dependencies:

config USB_USBNET
tristate "Multi-purpose USB Networking Framework"
select MII
[...]
config USB_NET_DM9601
tristate "Davicom DM9601 based USB 1.1 10/100 ethernet devices"
depends on USB_USBNET
select CRC32
[...]

   So try bugging the person doing the SHR kernel package.

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Re: [SHR] new illume + elm theme

2009-10-18 Thread Bernd Prünster
Marcel wrote:
> I like your fast themes, thank you! :)
>   
you're welcome. (i stil dont get it why niebiee isnt default for all shr 
installations, since the default theme sucks when it comes to speed)
> Still, I have a problem: In your screenshots, the desktop icon's
> captions have a white border which makes them readable on dark
> backgrounds (like my one). That's missing for me. Also, the white bg
>   
i only applied this to the elm theme, can do it for illume too, but the 
reason why teh white outline looks so ugly, is that if i make it pretty  
(it is very easy to do) scrolling is hella slow!
i can apply it to illume theme aswell, thanks for the suggestion
> rect of the flaunch-bar on the bottom seems off about 1/3 a button's
> width to the right, see screenshot.
> http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/222c74cd8f93199a0ebdfdefe6c339b3.png
>   
yup! thanks, i didnt notice, since i use c_c's launcher.

i will fix these issues and upload a new package (check in about 8 hours 
for new packages)

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Re: [SHR] new illume + elm theme

2009-10-18 Thread Marcel
I like your fast themes, thank you! :)

Still, I have a problem: In your screenshots, the desktop icon's
captions have a white border which makes them readable on dark
backgrounds (like my one). That's missing for me. Also, the white bg
rect of the flaunch-bar on the bottom seems off about 1/3 a button's
width to the right, see screenshot.
http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/222c74cd8f93199a0ebdfdefe6c339b3.png

Though the elementary theme is fine as far as I see.

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Re: deep sleep on Android, was Re: QtMoko v14

2009-10-18 Thread Chris Samuel
On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 05:53:36 pm Petr Vanek wrote:

> thank you, please keep us posted if anything changes...

Michael Trimarchi ("Panicking") is on the case already. :-)

cheers,
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Re: fso-abyss docs anywhere? (Was: GSM errors after 1024 fix)

2009-10-18 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
>Hi,
>  I get messages like 
>[2009-10-18 07:51:27.107655] Signal : cid=4E91, lac=006A
>[2009-10-18 07:52:45.145288] Signal : cid=4E7B, lac=006A
>[2009-10-18 07:53:18.218122] Signal : cid=4E91, lac=006A
>...
>  So I guess my #1024 is not fixed :-(

The three lines you quoted are not showing #1024. Again, frequent cell 
_handovers_ are perfectly normal. #1024 is about dropping out of a cell, then 
recamping into it, e.g. it looks like that:

[2009-10-18 07:51:27.107655] Signal : cid=4E91, lac=006A
[2009-10-18 07:52:45.145288] Signal : cid=4E91, lac=006A
[2009-10-18 07:53:18.218122] Signal : cid=4E91, lac=006A

(NB: This compact debug output form is not optimal for recognizing #1024 
anyways, you should rather watch for CSQ and CREG messages. If CSQ suddenly 
drops to 99 and you get thrown out of the cell, then it's 100% clear you have 
#1024).

:M:

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Re: 1024#

2009-10-18 Thread Petr Vanek
 I've been wondering if all the freerunners are affected by bug
 #1024? 
>Most of GTA02-A5/A6 have this bug.
>Once TI_CALYPSO_DEEP_SLEEP set to "always", you can check with a
>little script done by KaZEr (see bleow)
>Launch it on screen, and redirect output to a file.
>
>If you have something like
>[2009-09-09 12:36:09.189663] Signal : cid=3BB3, lac=0D48
>[2009-09-09 12:36:15.088936] Signal : cid=3BB3, lac=0D48
>[2009-09-09 12:38:10.442808] Signal : cid=3BB3, lac=0D48
>[2009-09-09 12:38:13.020126] Signal : cid=3BB3, lac=0D48
>[2009-09-09 12:40:25.772918] Signal : cid=3BB3, lac=0D48
>[2009-09-09 12:40:28.620096] Signal : cid=3BB3, lac=0D48
>[2009-09-09 12:41:17.557676] Signal : cid=3BB3, lac=0D48
>[2009-09-09 12:41:20.404582] Signal : cid=3BB3, lac=0D48
>

hi,

one thing is still not clear to me. When you run the test script,
should the freerunner be suspended or awake?

I tried both and cannot see any output from the script, not even during
driving, when cells do change. My fr clearly had the issue (i was
missing a lots of calls with Qtopia, before disabling deep sleep was
implementing...

I think i am done with summarizing of all this, please check
and eventually correct: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/1024


Petr


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Re: QtMoko - QtBackup

2009-10-18 Thread ghislain

Radek,

Thanks for adding the program to the QtMoko feeds.
I've applied your changes to the QtBackup-source-tree.

It was my first Qt-App and I wanted to use QtCreator only, which succeeded 
when using version 1.2.10 and change some build-settings. But for package
creating I had to ask my friend google :)

For the permissions, I also saw there were no executing permissions, but it
worked for me nonetheless. But checking and setting the permissions is
better of course.

Thanks!
Ghislain
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