Re: Bye SHR, hello QTMoko (and battery life)
O Xoves, 4 de Outubro de 2012, Timo Juhani Lindfors escribiu: David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.com writes: I've read about http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket//2349, but it should be fixed in qtmoko's 2.6.34, isn't it? Yes. Any clue on this? Can you measure the power consumption please? With and without GSM. After changing u-boot with qi, battery standby time is far better. It seems gennady's u-boot still have some bugs... Thanks you all for the help -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bye SHR, hello QTMoko (and battery life)
O Xoves, 4 de Outubro de 2012, Timo Juhani Lindfors escribiu: David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.com writes: Any clue on this? Can you measure the power consumption please? With and without GSM. For these tests I flashed Qi from qtmoko repositories, so we can discard any problem with u-boot. GSM on: On battery and display at 80% [1] brightness: ~200-210 mA On battery and display dimmed: ~130-135 mA On battery and display off: ~120-130 mA On resume: ~12-18 mA Being timeouts configured as: Dim:1 m Display off:3 m Suspend:5 m And using this script: while true; do echo `date` `cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/current_now` /var/log/power.log; sleep 5; done This is the output of script in a full cycle (only pasting changes in current_now values) Sun Oct 7 10:39:59 CEST 2012 200250 [..] Sun Oct 7 10:40:45 CEST 2012 200250 Sun Oct 7 10:40:50 CEST 2012 134062 [..] Sun Oct 7 10:41:35 CEST 2012 134062 Sun Oct 7 10:41:40 CEST 2012 131437 [..] Sun Oct 7 10:42:26 CEST 2012 131437 Sun Oct 7 10:42:31 CEST 2012 128250 [..] Sun Oct 7 10:43:16 CEST 2012 128250 Sun Oct 7 10:43:22 CEST 2012 123375 [..] Sun Oct 7 10:44:07 CEST 2012 123375 Sun Oct 7 10:44:12 CEST 2012 122250 [..] Sun Oct 7 10:44:32 CEST 2012 122250 Sun Oct 7 10:54:16 CEST 2012 12750 Does these valules seem ok for you? Is it normal so little difference (~10mA) between dimmed display and powered off display? Now, I want to do tests with GSM powered off. For this, is it enough if I boot without inserted SIM card? [1] Default qtmoko on-battery max brightness -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bye SHR, hello QTMoko (and battery life)
O Domingo, 7 de Outubro de 2012, Radek Polak escribiu: On Sunday, October 07, 2012 06:52:42 AM David Garabana Barro wrote: Maybe stupid questions - but do you have USB cable connected? In this case it will not suspend. On battery it should suspend after configured interval. You can try lock the home screen - the preconfigured interval in this case is 10s. I asked this before Timo's answer. Now I know I can read it from current_now just after waking up. As you say, it would be better to have charge_now, but by the moment this is an acceptable approximation... -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bye SHR, hello QTMoko (and battery life)
O Domingo, 7 de Outubro de 2012, David Garabana Barro escribiu: O Xoves, 4 de Outubro de 2012, Timo Juhani Lindfors escribiu: David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.com writes: Any clue on this? Can you measure the power consumption please? With and without GSM. Now, I want to do tests with GSM powered off. For this, is it enough if I boot without inserted SIM card? I answer myself. Booting without SIM card does no change power consumption at all, so it seems qtmoko powers on GSM with or without SIM inserted. So I've made as suggested by gennady in bug report: cd /sys/bus/platform/devices echo 1 gta02-pm-gsm.0/power_on echo 0 gta02-pm-gsm.0/power_on And now I can see a difference in power consumption, BUT it seems qtmoko won't suspend if you poweroff GSM :( GSM off: On battery and display at 80% [1] brightness: 197 mA On battery and display dimmed: 123 mA On battery and display off: 117 mA On resume: ?? mA There are almost not deviations in power consumption with GSM powered off, which I suppose is normal. Being timeouts configured as: Dim:1 m Display off:3 m Suspend:5 m And using the same script as before This is the output of script in a full cycle (only pasting changes in current_now values) Sun Oct 7 13:55:22 CEST 2012 199875 [..] Sun Oct 7 13:56:08 CEST 2012 199875 Sun Oct 7 13:56:13 CEST 2012 124687 [..] Sun Oct 7 13:57:49 CEST 2012 124687 Sun Oct 7 13:57:54 CEST 2012 118500 -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bye SHR, hello QTMoko (and battery life)
O Venres, 5 de Outubro de 2012, Giacomo 'giotti' Mariani escribiu: Anyway, a strange thinks happened. In the last few days my QtMoko lightning icon started saying number/0mA, where number is an integer reasonably representing the consumption (negative if charging). Same here. Cant read last suspend current, it's allways 0. -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bye SHR, hello QTMoko (and battery life)
O Xoves, 4 de Outubro de 2012, Radek Polak escribiu: On Thursday, October 04, 2012 09:04:00 AM David Garabana Barro wrote: O Xoves, 4 de Outubro de 2012, Timo Juhani Lindfors escribiu: David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.com writes: I've read about http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket//2349, but it should be fixed in qtmoko's 2.6.34, isn't it? Yes. Thanks Can you measure the power consumption please? With and without GSM. How can I do it? Is there any wiki page about it? The trac ticket you are reffering to has commands how to do it. Besides QtMoko has the information about current consumption on the home screen (near the lightning icon e.g. 300/12mA which means 300mA now, 12mA in last suspend). And finally you can even read the current_now sysfs file. I'm trying with #!/bin/sh while true do cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/current_now /var/log/power.log sleep 1 done but if running the script, qtmoko won't enter suspend And I'm wondering, if suspended, it won't log anything, won't it? Sorry if an obvious question, but how can I measure suspended current draw? btw, I'm using latest gennady's u-boot, and it seems to still poweron gps... -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bye SHR, hello QTMoko (and battery life)
O Domingo, 7 de Outubro de 2012, David Garabana Barro escribiu: btw, I'm using latest gennady's u-boot, and it seems to still poweron gps... I wasn't using gennady's u-boot. I have just flashed it, I'll try it and post results. -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bye SHR, hello QTMoko (and battery life)
O Xoves, 4 de Outubro de 2012, Radek Polak escribiu: Is this standby time normal for this version? What is your standby time? But i have never had dumb battery so cant help much here. The original openmoko battery has the advantage, that you immediately see if something is wrong. All my batteries are original, not dumb. I've bough it at pulster.de, Christoph still sells them -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bye SHR, hello QTMoko (and battery life)
O Xoves, 4 de Outubro de 2012, Timo Juhani Lindfors escribiu: David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.com writes: I've read about http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket//2349, but it should be fixed in qtmoko's 2.6.34, isn't it? Yes. Thanks Can you measure the power consumption please? With and without GSM. How can I do it? Is there any wiki page about it? -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Bye SHR, hello QTMoko (and battery life)
Hi I've finally gave up with SHR. Around 2010 June-July, I had a mostly stable daily phone, rock solid gps, really great battery life (#1024 fixed, 3-4 days standby time), and I was very very happy. But since then, my sd card sttoped working realibly, my phone doesn't wake up from suspend, gps intermitently fails, and I cannot say about battery life, because it's almost impossible to last 1 day without a freeze... In late 2011 I had a baby, and I left Neo unused for a while. I had no time to fight with so many problems. I was using a dumb phone as my daily phone, and giving all my time to my baby :) Now I want to use FR again, and give qtmoko a chance. I'm really surprised with the state of all functions. Almost everything works flawlessly, new theme is AMAZING, I can even use my own WPA2 home wifi. Last time I got it working with neo was with FDOM (LOOONG time ago). SD card works again (I'm booting qtmoko from sd card, so I can say it works completely stable). I'm very happy... but with battery life. Usually I get only about 12 hours standby time, and many less if I use it a little. My Neo is #1024 fixed, I have activated deep sleep both in neocontrol and in /opt/qtmoko/etc/default/Trolltech/Modem.conf [1] I've read about http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket//2349, but it should be fixed in qtmoko's 2.6.34, isn't it? Any clue on this? Is this standby time normal for this version? What is your standby time? P.S. I have two brand new batteries, so you can discard a broken battery... [1] http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/qtmoko/index.php?title=FAQ#How_about_power_save_of_Calypso.2C_the_GSM_modem_- _bug_.231024 -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v45
Hi There is a problem with this image When you try to apt-get update and install any package with apt, You get the following error: Setting up linux-image-2.6.34-qtmoko-gta02 (45-1) ... WARNING: Couldn't open directory /lib/modules/2.6.34-qtmoko: No such file or directory FATAL: Could not open /lib/modules/2.6.34-qtmoko/modules.dep.temp for writing: No such file or directory dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.34-qtmoko-gta02 (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 It seems kernel package is not completely installed... Thanks for your valuable work! On Miércoles, 13 de junio de 2012 00:40:27 Radek Polak escribió: Hi, QtMoko v45 is out now. You can get images for GTA02 (Freerunner) here[1] and GTA04 (Phoenux) here[2]. For more info about QtMoko please visit our homepage [3]. This is list of changes since previous v44 version: * fixed wifi password not saving problem * new big transparent keyboard * GTA04 has new 3.4 kernel thanks to Neil Brown * GTA04 has now vibra motor support * show atmospheric pressure on home screen on GTA04 (Neil Jerram) * removed all other input methods from build * display wifi icon in title bar * run ping on default DNS when wifi icon is clicked * gps icon in title bar with number of satellites and fix indicator * gps has now api for number of satellites * gps plugin for GTA04 now makes gps always enabled * GTA04 charge indicator is polling battery every 30s * GTA02 gps - checking for ntpserver available with ping (Jiri Pinkava) * qterminal can now run scripts using setDocument() api method * scripts for powering on/off modem on GTA04A04 * charging udev rules for GTA04 (Neil Brown) * options to boot from all mmc partitions in shutdown ui * build fixes and various code improvements (Yann Dirson) * added new freecell game Probably most noticeable is new keyboard. It has two layouts - one suitable for terminal and one for SMS. They look like this: http://qtmoko.sourceforge.net/screenshots/abc.png http://qtmoko.sourceforge.net/screenshots/qwerty.png Layouts are completely customizable. You can easily change key size, position, background. It's very easy to add international characters and new layouts. Just have a look at /opt/qtmoko/etc/im/svgkbd/ The layouts are normal svg images. You can use inkscape to open and edit them. It should be very clear what to do. Only thing to explain is how you should name the key XML elements. In Inkscape go to Edit-XML editor and click on key. The element name must be in form: key_QtKeycode_unicode For possible QtKeycode values check this link[4] and for unicode values use your favourite unicode character map. Please not that my layouts are just very simple. If you manage to create better ones i will be glad to replace them. I can also make your national keyboards variants easily installable from qtmoko apps page. As for the other changes - you can now make clickable elements in themes that launch scripts in qterminal. So e.g. you can have icon on homescreen with your favourite script. For example how to do it check what happens when you click the new wifi icon in finxi theme (search for setDocument string here [5]). Another nice thing is atmospheric pressure indicator on GTA04 homescreen or number of gps sattelites/fix indicator on title bar. One more is freecell game - you can now waste a lot of time here :) GTA04 owners can now enjoy latest 3.4 kernel thanks to Neil Brown's amazing kernel work. I have been running this kernel for several days and all works perfectly. No regressions were spotted. Many thanks for this Neil. Thanks also everyone for their support and work. Enjoy the release! Radek [1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/qtmoko/files/GTA02/ [2] http://sourceforge.net/projects/qtmoko/files/GTA04/ [3] http://qtmoko.sourceforge.net/ [4] http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/qt.html#Key-enum [5] https://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/blob/master/etc/themes/finxi/title.xml ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FoxtrotGPS 1.1.1 released
On Jueves, 14 de junio de 2012 11:50:02 Timo Juhani Lindfors escribió: Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.pl writes: Thanks for the info. Just looked at the roadmap, but couldn't find it: do you plan to support maps in vector format? They are way smaller than tiles, which is essential for GPS software, where you do not have internet access. If you want vector maps you might want to look at monav. On navit ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v37 for GTA02
O Sábado, 17 de Decembro de 2011, fdvj...@vodafone.it escribiu: Il 11/12/2011 17:51, Radek Polak ha scritto: Any other ideas for cool qt apps that you would like on QtMoko? A better and lightweight picture-viewer, like ristretto or viewnior or something similar. Migh be a port of Neon. Fast and very usable on FR screen. -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mounting ubifs partition
O Martes, 28 de Xuño de 2011, Giacomo 'giotti' Mariani escribiu: Following http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/UBIFS the command should be: #ubiattach /dev/ubi_ctrl -O 2048 -m 6 followed by: #mount -t ubifs ubi0:om-gta02-rootfs /media/om It works Thank you very much -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Mounting ubifs partition
Hi, list I have recently launched an shr-u update, and now it doesn't boot anymore. I suspect the update downloads filled NAND, but I'm not sure. I'm trying to mount partition from debian (on uSD): debian-gta02:~# uname -a Linux debian-gta02 2.6.29-20100313.git973a41fc #1 Sat Aug 7 17:45:57 GMT-3 2010 armv4tl GNU/Linux debian-gta02:~# ubiattach /dev/mtd6 -m 6 -O 2048 ubiattach: error!: UBI is not present in the system debian-gta02:~# modprobe ubi WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/linux-sound-base_noOSS, it will be ignored in a future release. debian-gta02:~# ubiattach /dev/ubi_ctrl -m 6 -O 2048 UBI device number 0, total 1969 LEBs (250015744 bytes, 238.4 MiB), available 0 LEBs (0 bytes), LEB size 126976 bytes (124.0 KiB) debian-gta02:~# ubimkvol /dev/ubi0 -N rootfs -m ubimkvol: error!: UBI device does not have free logical eraseblocks Can anyone help me with this error? Isn't possible to mount a full ubifs partition or am I doing something wrong? Thanks -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
omgps track conversion script
I've made a shell script to convert omgps track files to .gpx I know you can convert them from inside omgps, but that way you have to convert tracks one by one, plus omgps in latest SHR only allow to convert tracks created in current omgps session. I hope someone find it useful http://pastebin.com/Fkd1s7BC -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Gennady's uboot and openmoko's logo (and GSM crash)
O Domingo, 20 de Febreiro de 2011, Gennady Kupava escribiu: Hi, David, Yes, splash should work, as reported by someone few months ago. Splash simple copied from special flash partition into framebuffer, yes with the line you pointed. So, it should contain zipped raw image data in 16bit rgb format, 480x640. But frankly speaking i never tried using splash. And yes again, just uncomment that line Gennady As you probably know, I had to stop using u-boot because gps not being stable and crashing on suspend/resume cycles. Your patch to u-boot and kernel solved my GPS problems. But I had to go with Qi again, because I was suffering for the same sympthoms with GSM in SHR. With Qi, GSM was stable, and resistered suspend cycles with no trouble. With u-boot after a random number of suspend/resumes, it crashed. Some days ago, I decided to try u-boot+ubi SHR image with your sample u-boot configuration. GSM just worked flawlessly in SHR for these days , and I though it was due to any change in FSO and/or kernel. But yesterday it started to fail again. It's going to sound crazy, but I think it's due to u-boot splash! Since I flashed new configuration with splash yesterday, I lose gsm after some suspend/resume cycles. This morning I deactivated splash again, and gsm is stable again. -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Gennady's uboot and openmoko's logo
Hello Gennady, using your u-boot, openmoko's logo is not shown just after pressing poweron. It just show noise on the screen. Is this normal? -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Gennady's uboot and openmoko's logo
O Domingo, 20 de Febreiro de 2011, Timo Juhani Lindfors escribiu: Have you put the logo to splash partition at all? Yes, and it was shown with older u-boot. Is it different with gennady's u-boot? -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Gennady's uboot and openmoko's logo
O Domingo, 20 de Febreiro de 2011, David Garabana Barro escribiu: Hello Gennady, using your u-boot, openmoko's logo is not shown just after pressing poweron. It just show noise on the screen. Is this normal? Forget about it It was only that in Gennady's example configuration [1] splashimage variable was not defined: splashimage= It must be this one: splashimage=nand read.e 0x3200 splash 0x5000; unzip 0x3200 0x880 for splash to be shown Thanks anyway [1] http://www.bsdmn.com/openmoko/uboot/config/environment.in -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
qtmoko v31 rtc
Hi Does anyone knows if finally this [1] patch was applied to debian kernel? I cannot set rtc, time is lost in every suspend/restart. The same sympthoms as [2] I know I could boot another distro and reset rtc, but I didn't wanted to erase my qtmoko installation in NAND, and I cannot boot any distro from my uSD [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/community@lists.openmoko.org/msg58236.html [2] http://www.mail-archive.com/community@lists.openmoko.org/msg57473.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPRS and QtMoko (v32): can't
Same here I could never connect to movistar.es (spanish operator) from qtmoko (any version I tried) I can connect perfectly with the same data from shr On Miércoles 09 Febrero 2011 16:40:17 UgoRaffaele escribió: Hi, I can't reach the net from my OpenMoko GTA02 phone via GPRS, both in Always online and When needed modes. I'm currently using QtMoko v32 and Vodafone Italy is my provider (the apn is mobile.vodafone.it on my Android phone). Is someone having the same issue? Could you help me, please? Kind regards, Ugo Raffaele signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtomoko v31 boot ploblems
O Sábado, 5 de Febreiro de 2011, Gennady Kupava escribiu: I just described why that kernel message appears, wants lzo - no lzo module - no mount - panic. Most probably David just did some mistake flashing Qi, kernel or rootfs. He should first just recheck everything. Othewise for me only Thank you Gennady and Ivan! I've just flashed u-boot-env again, with Gennady's uboot and Gennady's uboot sample environment, and now it boots. Flashing qi again, makes the error appear again, so it seems Qi reads u-boot- env... Now qtomoko dies after a long suspend, but that's another history :( I've had a lot of trouble with my Neo and uboot+suspend (lately gsm died after a suspend when using shr-u), so it might be uboot fault... -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
qtomoko v31 boot ploblems
Hi Just flashed qtmoko v31 in NAND. It hangs on first boot with kernel panic: UBIFS error (pid 1): mount_ubifs: 'compressor lzo is not compiled in Kernel-panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on onknown-block(0,0) Usind qtmoko kernel qi: -rw-r--r-- 1 user group 29088 feb 4 12:59 qi-31.udfu -rw-r--r-- 1 user group 93585408 feb 4 13:03 qtmoko-debian-v31.ubi -rw-r--r-- 1 user group 2218272 feb 4 12:58 uImage-v31.bin Any idea? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] qi-bootmenu-0.2
On Sábado 27 Noviembre 2010 15:46:03 Marc Andre Tanner escribió: On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:41:10PM +0100, David Garabana Barro wrote: O Mércores, 6 de Outubro de 2010, Marc Andre Tanner escribiu: If you flash the above Qi version, pressing AUX should boot from NAND and thus present the bootmenu independently of the content of your sd card. If you don't want to use my patched Qi then get it to boot from NAND in some other way, for example by putting noboot-GTA02 files into your sd partitions. Let me know how it works for you. For me your Qi it's allways booting first uSD partition unless I add noboot- GTA02 to /boot directories Do you feel the vibration when you press AUX? I feel vibration when I initially press power. Pressing AUX anytime between pressing power and bootmenu is shown does nothing, or at least I feel nothing is done. If I create noboot-GTA02 on every uSD partition, menu is booted, but if I select any uSD partition from bootmenu, it allways boot the distro on /dev/mmcblk0p5 Don't know what the problem could be, you could try to ssh into the phone and run qi-bootmenu -d. ~ # qi-bootmenu -d Couldn't identify filesystem on '/dev/mmcblk0' No kernel found at '/mnt/mmcblk0p1/boot/zImage-GTA02.bin' mount: Device or resource busy mount: Device or resource busy mount: Device or resource busy Unsupported filesystem 'reiserfs' on '/dev/mmcblk0p6' Unsupported filesystem 'swap' on '/dev/mmcblk0p7' Partitions: /dev/mtdblock6 /dev/mmcblk0 /dev/mmcblk0p1 /dev/mmcblk0p2 /dev/mmcblk0p3 /dev/mmcblk0p5 /dev/mmcblk0p6 /dev/mmcblk0p7 Built in filesystems: sysfs rootfs bdev proc tmpfs devtmpfs sockfs pipefs anon_inodefs devpts ext3 ext2 ramfs jffs2 Bootable images: mount -t jffs2 /dev/mtdblock6 /mnt/mtdblock6 kexec --append='loglevel=4 console=tty0 console=ttySAC2,115200 init=/sbin/init ro mtdparts=physmap-flash:-(nor);neo1973-nand:0x0004(qi),0x0004(depr- ub-env),0x0080(kernel),0x000a(depr),0x0004(identity- ext2),0x0f6a(rootfs) g_ether.dev_addr=00:1F:11:01:3D:E1 g_ether.host_addr=00:1F:11:01:3D:E2 rootfstype=jffs2 root=/dev/mtdblock6 qi- bootmenu-args=-i /dev/mtdblock6 lpj=498688 rootwait root=/dev/mtdblock6 rootfstype=jffs2 loglevel=1 quiet splash' -l /mnt/mtdblock6/boot/uImage- GTA02.bin umount /dev/mtdblock6 kexec -e /dev/mmcblk0p1 has no OS on it, and /dev/mmcblk0p6 is a data partition. I have OS in /dev/mmcblk0p2, /dev/mmcblk0p3 and /dev/mmcblk0p5 Does this give you any clue about what is happening? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] qi-bootmenu-0.2
On Sábado 27 Noviembre 2010 15:46:03 Marc Andre Tanner escribió: If I create noboot-GTA02 on every uSD partition, menu is booted, but if I select any uSD partition from bootmenu, it allways boot the distro on /dev/mmcblk0p5 Don't know what the problem could be, you could try to ssh into the phone and run qi-bootmenu -d. This is the output with qi-bootmenu 0.1 As said, it boots OS on any (2-3-5) partition: ~ # qi-bootmenu -d Partitions: /dev/mtdblock6 /dev/mmcblk0 /dev/mmcblk0p1 /dev/mmcblk0p2 /dev/mmcblk0p3 /dev/mmcblk0p5 /dev/mmcblk0p6 /dev/mmcblk0p7 Built in filesystems: sysfs rootfs bdev proc tmpfs devtmpfs sockfs pipefs anon_inodefs devpts ext3 ext2 ramfs jffs2 Bootable images: Couldn't identify filesystem on '/dev/mmcblk0' No kernel found at '/mnt/mmcblk0p1/boot/zImage-GTA02.bin' mount: Device or resource busy mount: Device or resource busy mount: Device or resource busy Unsupported filesystem 'reiserfs' on '/dev/mmcblk0p6' Unsupported filesystem 'swap' on '/dev/mmcblk0p7' kexec --append='loglevel=4 console=tty0 console=ttySAC2,115200 init=/sbin/init ro mtdparts=physmap-flash:-(nor);neo1973-nand:0x0004(qi),0x0004(depr- ub-env),0x0080(kernel),0x000a(depr),0x0004(identity- ext2),0x0f6a(rootfs) g_ether.dev_addr=00:1F:11:01:3D:E1 g_ether.host_addr=00:1F:11:01:3D:E2 rootfstype=jffs2 root=/dev/mtdblock6 qi- bootmenu-args=-i /dev/mtdblock6 lpj=498688 root=/dev/mtdblock6 rootfstype=jffs2 loglevel=1 quiet splash' -l /mnt/mtdblock6/boot/uImage- GTA02.bin umount '/dev/mtdblock6' kexec -e signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko v28
O Venres, 19 de Novembro de 2010, Gennady Kupava escribiu: В Птн, 19/11/2010 в 17:12 +0100, David Garabana Barro пишет: Is it possible to boot this version from uSD with u-boot? I can boot it with qi, but no matter what I try, couln'd boot from uSD v28 with uboot Hi, David, Known (by me at least) bug - something wrong with u-boot, glamo242 and booting from SD. Here, it refuse to boot ~1/2 of times. I am aware of this and even did 1 attempt to fix it. Hope i'll squash it sooner or later. Please, try non-242 u-boot to test if this issue related to your problem. Overwise, i can boot from sd (debian) with u-boot without problems. Nothing special in qtmoko. Provide details - any errors, logs, place it stops booting. Hi, Gennady I've tried to boot with non 242 uboot, and had no sucess. Is seems kernel is not recognising me uSD partition table, that's why it doesn't boot. My old friend my card doesn't work with kernel 2.6.32 :P Thanks for the answer, anyway. P.S. If you have curiority about last kernel output, I've put it on http://www.garabana.com/qtmoko-kernel.jpg -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko v28
O Martes, 23 de Novembro de 2010, David Garabana Barro escribiu: O Venres, 19 de Novembro de 2010, Gennady Kupava escribiu: В Птн, 19/11/2010 в 17:12 +0100, David Garabana Barro пишет: Is it possible to boot this version from uSD with u-boot? I can boot it with qi, but no matter what I try, couln'd boot from uSD v28 with uboot Hi, David, Known (by me at least) bug - something wrong with u-boot, glamo242 and booting from SD. Here, it refuse to boot ~1/2 of times. I am aware of this and even did 1 attempt to fix it. Hope i'll squash it sooner or later. Please, try non-242 u-boot to test if this issue related to your problem. Overwise, i can boot from sd (debian) with u-boot without problems. Nothing special in qtmoko. Provide details - any errors, logs, place it stops booting. Hi, Gennady I've tried to boot with non 242 uboot, and had no sucess. Is seems kernel is not recognising me uSD partition table, that's why it doesn't boot. But this open an interesting question. Why is uSD partition card recognised with Qi and not with uboot? Maybe my I/O problems are also related to uboot? Will try to boot SHR from NAND with Qi, and see if my card stops givin I/O errors... -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko v28
O Venres, 19 de Novembro de 2010, Gennady Kupava escribiu: В Птн, 19/11/2010 в 17:12 +0100, David Garabana Barro пишет: O Mércores, 20 de Outubro de 2010, Radek Polak escribiu: Hi, there is now new v28 release of qtmoko ready for downloading flashing and testing. You can download it from our sourceforge page under Experimental folder [1]. Is it possible to boot this version from uSD with u-boot? I can boot it with qi, but no matter what I try, couln'd boot from uSD v28 with uboot Hi, David, Known (by me at least) bug - something wrong with u-boot, glamo242 and booting from SD. Here, it refuse to boot ~1/2 of times. I am aware of this and even did 1 attempt to fix it. Hope i'll squash it sooner or later. Please, try non-242 u-boot to test if this issue related to your problem. Overwise, i can boot from sd (debian) with u-boot without problems. Nothing special in qtmoko. Provide details - any errors, logs, place it stops booting. My problem seems the same in [1] I hadn't read that thread before. So only difference with your case is that no matter what glamo clocks I use, uboot cannot read partitions from my uSD 100% of times. [1] http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2010-September/062969.html -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] qi-bootmenu-0.2
O Mércores, 6 de Outubro de 2010, Marc Andre Tanner escribiu: If you flash the above Qi version, pressing AUX should boot from NAND and thus present the bootmenu independently of the content of your sd card. If you don't want to use my patched Qi then get it to boot from NAND in some other way, for example by putting noboot-GTA02 files into your sd partitions. Let me know how it works for you. For me your Qi it's allways booting first uSD partition unless I add noboot- GTA02 to /boot directories If I create noboot-GTA02 on every uSD partition, menu is booted, but if I select any uSD partition from bootmenu, it allways boot the distro on /dev/mmcblk0p5 This is my partition table: /dev/mmcblk0p1 1 38 38896 83 Linux /dev/mmcblk0p2 39 563 537600 83 Linux /dev/mmcblk0p3 5642414 1895424 83 Linux /dev/mmcblk0p42415 15326132218885 Extended /dev/mmcblk0p524153041 642032 83 Linux /dev/mmcblk0p63042 1508212329968 83 Linux /dev/mmcblk0p7 15083 15326 249840 82 Linux swap / Solaris Where: /dev/mmcblk0p1 vfat partition, unused /dev/mmcblk0p2 ext3 Qtmoko /dev/mmcblk0p3 ext3 Debian /dev/mmcblk0p5 ext3 hackable:1 /dev/mmcblk0p6 reiserfs common data Tried v0.1 again and it boots OS in partition you select. Do you have any clue on what might be happening? -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko v28
O Mércores, 20 de Outubro de 2010, Radek Polak escribiu: Hi, there is now new v28 release of qtmoko ready for downloading flashing and testing. You can download it from our sourceforge page under Experimental folder [1]. Is it possible to boot this version from uSD with u-boot? I can boot it with qi, but no matter what I try, couln'd boot from uSD v28 with uboot -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko v28
O Mércores, 20 de Outubro de 2010, Radek Polak escribiu: Hi, there is now new v28 release of qtmoko ready for downloading flashing and testing. You can download it from our sourceforge page under Experimental folder [1]. Hi, Radek Could you tell me if is there any difference between qtmoko kernel and shr kernel? I'm asking it because my uSD is recognised (and partitions mounted) on every boot without changing any kernel parameter. This is something I didn't see since kernel 2.6.29 I couldn't test it thoroughly yet, but I even configured swap in a uSD partition and haven't suffered any hang by the moment. I'm trying qtmoko v28 in NAND with qtmoko's page Qi. This might be also interesting for kernel developers -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko v28
O Mércores, 20 de Outubro de 2010, Gennady Kupava escribiu: Always wanted to test ubifs, so joining experimental branch to test this. Just installed it, working well so far. - rootfstype=jffs2 root=/dev/mtdblock6 + fstype=ubifs ubi.mtd=6,2048 root=ubi0:om-gta02-rootfs U-boot environment change above is working well. Gennady Is your 242-glamo-timings uboot ubifs capable? I cannot boot qtmoko v28 with it, even after changing bootargs... Thank you -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] qi-bootmenu-0.2
On Miércoles, 6 de Octubre de 2010 21:55:44 Marc Andre Tanner escribió: Hi, I finally had some time to hack on qi-bootmenu the result is a new 0.2 release http://www.brain-dump.org/projects/qi-bootmenu/ Only a question Does the modified Qi includes 242 glamo timings patch? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] qi-bootmenu-0.2
On Miércoles, 6 de Octubre de 2010 21:55:44 Marc Andre Tanner escribió: Hi, I finally had some time to hack on qi-bootmenu the result is a new 0.2 release Thanks a lot for the new release BTW :o) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] qi-bootmenu-0.2
On Jueves, 7 de Octubre de 2010 16:25:03 Marc Andre Tanner escribió: David Garabana Barro schrieb: Does the modified Qi includes 242 glamo timings patch? No. It's the same as in the initial release (built sometime in February) I am not really up to date regarding the glamo timings, is it stable? What are the prefered settings? If you provide a patch I can add it. Or better yet someone should commit it to the openmoko git repository then I will pick it up 'automatically'. I only found: http://dos.openmoko.pl/overclock/ but it seems you can change the timings at runtime too. ./memwrite $((0x4808)) $((0x1380)) Nop, it's no related with overclock (which is not stable for everyone). Glamo timings are totally stable, because they are simply put at the values the glamo documentation says they should be. More info: http://www.mail-archive.com/community@lists.openmoko.org/msg60256.html Here you have uboot patch: http://www.bsdmn.com/openmoko/glamo/242/ And patched Qi: http://www.mail-archive.com/community@lists.openmoko.org/msg60284.html As it's not overclocking, and speedup is noticeable, it would be great if you put it by default on your Qi. Thank you signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Babiloo and Swedish dictionary
On Sábado, 11 de Septiembre de 2010 20:12:47 Xavier Cremaschi escribió: NB : it seems a bit better with estardict, but few dictionaries seem to be accepted by this soft... You can use dictconv (dictconv package in debian) for converting between dictionary formats It worked for me signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko Virtual Memory
On Miércoles, 1 de Septiembre de 2010 11:22:45 Gennady Kupava escribió: В Срд, 01/09/2010 в 10:50 +0200, Nashvin Gangaram пишет: * Does swap cause a significant performance increase with QtMoko? No, i think it may cause significant performance decrease instead. But this just educated guess and it would be better to do some testing to prove this. It's not true for me, and it's a common misunderstanding IMHO. For testing, simply try to download tiles at zoom level 11, for the upper 6 zoom levels in tangoGPS. Better if you make it twice (moving on the map) Without swap, it will catch all available memory, and FR will get really slow, to the limit of appearing to hang, and even sometimes oomkill will start killing some random process. With swap, linux can swap unused pages (other daemon pages, not tangogps ones) and tangogps will continue running, and FR will be responsible. You only will notice some 1-4 seconds slowdown from time to time, when pages are swapped out swap is not only for creating more memory. If FR starts to massively trashing pages to swap, it will really SLOW things a lot, for sure (the same is true for your PC) But it will help *a lot* to have more memory available for running apps. Think on swap as a place where put unused memory pages, and use real RAM for currently used apps or caching files from slow uSD Swap will *ALLWAYS* help, but will help a lot more on a limited memory device, as FR Here [1] you can read more about what I'm saying. [1] http://kerneltrap.org/node/3202 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Community Updates] 2010-09-01 is out
On Miércoles, 1 de Septiembre de 2010 12:13:20 Gennady Kupava escribió: В Срд, 01/09/2010 в 14:08 +0300, Maksim 'max_posedon' Melnikau пишет: Because of FR's NOR bootloader, better to have some hacks in kernel, imho. FR NOR bootloader should not be used for anything expect flashing. It has N other unfixed things. It cannot boot 2M kernel, for example. Not uninportant one :) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v26
O Luns, 30 de Agosto de 2010, Radek Polak escribiu: On Sunday 29 August 2010 13:16:44 David Garabana Barro wrote: I have find an annoying bug. I cannot define timeout for suspending when plugged and when on battery. When I change one, the other changes also... So, or I have the phone suspending when plugged in or it doesn't suspend even when on battery.. You are right, it seems that the selection from combo is not working good. I can set suspend interval here, but you have to have Neo unplugged from PC or charger to set it correctly. Does it solve it for you too? Yes, when unplugged, they are set correctly. Thanks! -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v26
O Sábado, 28 de Agosto de 2010, Radek Polak escribiu: Hello, qtmoko has new v26 release. You can get it from our sourceforge page [1]. Congratulations! qtmoko is getting sweeter and sweeter every version :) I have find an annoying bug. I cannot define timeout for suspending when plugged and when on battery. When I change one, the other changes also... So, or I have the phone suspending when plugged in or it doesn't suspend even when on battery... -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v25 - experimental with 2.6.34 kernel
Hi, Genady On Lunes, 23 de Agosto de 2010 20:37:26 Gennady Kupava escribió: David, Are there still WSOD with 2.6.32? I asked Martin to add workaround for this problem to SHR today, so it should not WSOD anymore. It have also solved rotate WSOD, is it possible? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v25 - experimental with 2.6.34 kernel
On Jueves, 26 de Agosto de 2010 11:26:56 Gennady Kupava escribió: Hi, David It have also solved rotate WSOD, is it possible? Yes. This patch _may_ also fix all kind of WSODs, in rotate, in switching to qvga, and on resume of course. We wanted to test it, but can't reliable reproduce that WSODs to see if they really fixed. Without patch I had one on every suspend and on almost every reboot when using 242 timings. And I had it on rotate even if not using 242 timings. I had not *any single* WSOD since I installed patched kernel. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v25 - experimental with 2.6.34 kernel
O Sábado, 21 de Agosto de 2010, Gennady Kupava escribiu: Hi, Tha_Man, Hi, Gennady Overclocking is not major thing really. I think only thing worth testing and using without any compromises is glamo 2-4-2 timing settings. Which is working without problems on .29 kernel with qtmoko V24, and works flawless with .34 kernel here. Are there still WSOD with 2.6.32? -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v25 - experimental with 2.6.34 kernel
O Luns, 23 de Agosto de 2010, Gennady Kupava escribiu: David, Are there still WSOD with 2.6.32? I asked Martin to add workaround for this problem to SHR today, so it should not WSOD anymore. Thank you! -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v25 - experimental with 2.6.34 kernel
O Luns, 23 de Agosto de 2010, Gennady Kupava escribiu: so it should not WSOD anymore. Of course, as soon as new kernel will hit shr repository. It's already on feeds. It works perfectly for me Thank you very very much! -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v25 - experimental with 2.6.34 kernel
On Martes, 17 de Agosto de 2010 13:02:34 Radek Polak escribió: Hi, i have released experimental qtmoko image with 2.6.34 kernel based on debian testing (squeeze). You can download tarbal from here [1]. There are no JFFS2 images for this release. This version is not for daily use. I plan to release stable release short after. Here is my list of problems: - too high current in suspend (~20mA). Your battery will discharge sooner. - no vibrator - no touchscreen filtering - you see jitter e.g. in scribble drawing program - no bluetooth (qtmoko needs bluez4 support) Thanks a lot for your work on qtmoko! But please, don't release final version until this bug [1] is addressed. There are a lot of people with uSD problems, making FR really really unstable for people suffering from it... [1] http://www.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/1143 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] X forwarding: export DISPLAY?
O Martes, 17 de Agosto de 2010, W. B. Kranendonk escribiu: --- On Tue, 8/17/10, Xavier Cremaschi omega.xav...@gmail.com wrote: - if you use kdm or xdm, I don't know :S I recall having edited /etc/kde/kdmrc to set XDMCP to true instead of false, and Xacces (in /etc/X11?) to get XDMCP between laptop and desktop, but too long ago to recall the details ;-) XDMCP has only to do with remote login, not display exporting. 99% of times you only need display export, so XDMCP is not needed -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Create personal Maps for tangogps or similar
On Thursday 05 August 2010 11:16:31 Kevin Zuber wrote: Dear Openmoko Community, I want to create some personal maps for viewing on the freerunner GPS application (like tangogps). All available maps (open streetmap and google maps etc.) does not meet my demands, so I want to create one myself. The map I need shows the depth of a lake. (In Germany it's called a Tiefenkarte - depth map) Why not contributing to OSM? That's the sense of a free map... AFAIK you can find seamap tiles (that's the name of the .png's you've found) in [1] I bet you can find lot more help about GIS on OSM lists [2] [1] http://www.openseamap.org [2] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Android] Froyo (Android 2.2) on Freerunner????
http://serdar-dere.net/~serdar/daily/ Are these images real? Are there Android 2.2 images for Freeruner? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Froyo (Android 2.2) on Freerunner????
On Thursday 05 August 2010 16:52:24 Jan Girlich wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 05.08.2010, 16:42 +0200 schrieb David Garabana Barro: http://serdar-dere.net/~serdar/daily/ Are these images real? Are there Android 2.2 images for Freeruner? I doubt these images are of any use (yet). Look at the filesizes. They're just about 7MB, way too small for a real image. Yes, but first one size is 67 MB. On the thread Nelson posted minutes ago, you can see they are real, but they only compile and boot. Not useful by the moment :) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Glamo slowness question. Glamo transfer speed improvements (+33%). Video softdecoding playing profile. Glamo dma transfer.
O Domingo, 18 de Xullo de 2010 20:06:02 Gennady Kupava escribiu: When you get a WSOD (rotating screen) Fixes exist to fix this (for both xrandr rotation, resolution switch and screen blanking), this not related to timings. I'm now getting WSOD after a long suspend. It's the very first time it happens to my FR (with any kernel). Do you know if is there any fix to this problem? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Glamo slowness question. Glamo transfer speed improvements (+33%). Video softdecoding playing profile. Glamo dma transfer.
O Luns, 19 de Xullo de 2010, Gennady Kupava escribiu: Hi, David. I'm now getting WSOD after a _long_ suspend. It's the very first time it happens to my FR (with any kernel). Very interesting. Do you know if is there any fix to this problem? I din't face such problem. But we can try to investigate it. First, interesting, is it temperature-dependent stuff? To test this, can you put suspended fr in fridge for 5 mins? I will try this night, if I can Second, can you try do you get same issue with default u-boot? http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/unstable/daily/om-gta02/20100131/u-boo t-gta02v5-1.3.1+gitr650149a53dbdd48bf6dfef90930c8ab182adb512-r1.bin It's the u-boot I was using (and the one I reflashed again this morning). I had never suffered for WSOD after suspend before... -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Glamo slowness question. Glamo transfer speed improvements (+33%). Video sofdecoding playing profile. Glamo dma transfer.
O Sábado, 17 de Xullo de 2010 22:42:19 Gennady Kupava escribiu: Hi, list. Here is my next rant to freerunner slowness :) Being a FR user since the beginning, it's really amazing to see how it improved since 2007.2 and 2008.x/2009.x distros, in usability, prettiness and speed (specially due to Thomas work on xorg glamo, your findings on kernel speedup and CPU/memory clocking, and FSO port to vala) Thank you very much to you and Thomas for not throwing the towel, and of course, thank you to all people behind FSO, e, SHR, Debian on FR, qtmoko, Hackable:1... Our Free mobile dream is nearest than ever! :o) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Glamo slowness question. Glamo transfer speed improvements (+33%). Video sofdecoding playing profile. Glamo dma transfer.
O Sábado, 17 de Xullo de 2010 22:42:19 Gennady Kupava escribiu: Hi, list. Here is my next rant to freerunner slowness :) You should get for new timings: Old value: addr[4808]=0x80 0x13 0x00 0x00 Expecting some reports from users, did it work for you flawlessly? r...@om-gta02 ~/Cosas/Soft/utils # ./memwrite 1207959560 pagesize = 4096 basepage=4800, baseoff = 0008, destaddr = 4808 Old value: addr[88142008]=0x80 0x13 0x00 0x00 It seems to work ok for me, tested on SHR-U and qtmoko I'm currently using shr-u, will report any problem... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Glamo slowness question. Glamo transfer speed improvements (+33%). Video sofdecoding playing profile. Glamo dma transfer.
O Domingo, 18 de Xullo de 2010 18:17:07 David Garabana Barro escribiu: O Sábado, 17 de Xullo de 2010 22:42:19 Gennady Kupava escribiu: I'm currently using shr-u, will report any problem... I had a WSOD shutting down, but not yet during normal use. As with new kernel WSOD are back again (at least rotating screen), I don't know if it's related to glamo timings or it was a kernel problem. I made some tests, with neon and neolight: neolight strobe @ 80 ms Although you can see filling, it's noticeably faster @ 242 CPU use @ 444 xorg60 python 10 idle30 CPU use @ 242 xorg44 python 7 idle47 neon continously scrolling big (1379x1916) photo. Scroll is visibly smoother CPU use @ 444 python 50 xorg44 idle0 CPU use @ 242 python 55 xorg40 idle0 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Glamo bus speed, testing of GLAMO_REG_LCD_A_BASE2 FIFO settings.
O Domingo, 18 de Xullo de 2010 18:52:39 Gennady Kupava escribiu: Hi list. First i did tests with different FIFO settings and 2-4-2 timings, and go absolutely same results in each tests. So here is only test results for FIFO = 0 or FIFO = 1 (0x4000): FIFO 0 1 2-4-2, 10Mb/s17.5Mb/s 4-4-4, 8.1Mb/s 12.2Mb/s which value are we using with 2.6.32 shr kernel? According to your previous mail (Glamo slowness question...) it seems it is 1, am I right? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Glamo slowness question. Glamo transfer speed improvements (+33%). Video sofdecoding playing profile. Glamo dma transfer.
O Sábado, 17 de Xullo de 2010 22:42:19 Gennady Kupava escribiu: Hi, list. Expecting some reports from users, did it work for you flawlessly? One small problem I found When you get a WSOD (rotating screen), if you just reboot, you obtain a WSOD on every following reboot You MUST halt device for getting it back to normality. I suppose something is not correctly initialized in glamo with modified uboot. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-Devel] [Shr-User] New SHR-unstable images with 2.6.32 kernel
On Wednesday 30 June 2010 07:59:16 Petr Vanek wrote: hmm, not sure if related to temperature again (as it used to be long ago), but it seems to: outside on full sun yesterday no WSOD even once, today, while sitting on a cool table, i get recoverable WSOD quite often. Letting screen to shortly dim fully and then reactivate gets it out of WSOD. I'm getting WSOD with almost every screen rotation. I say almost, because I could rotate it one or two times succesfully. It recovers with a suspend/resume signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtmoko] v24 importing contacts
On Wednesday 30 June 2010 13:27:25 Rafael Ignacio Zurita wrote: --- On Wed, 6/30/10, Nashvin Gangaram nashv...@gmail.com wrote: And more, I installed latest SHR unstable and it does not show the contacts. I like both anyway ;-) Rafa With latest shr-u, you *must* import contacts from SIM. shr-settings-others-sim manager Otherways you cannot access SIM contacts at all. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: AW: AW: Surveying community expectations on openmoko governance
On Monday 07 June 2010 10:05:21 Jörg König wrote: So do I! :-) But it asks :) I confirm! Mmmm i've just filled it, no user/passwprd for me. Using binary firefox 3.6.3 in debian stable signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 8 Gigabyte Sandisk MicroSDHC Incompatibility
On Friday 21 May 2010 12:26:42 Al Johnson wrote: Hi, I have a Kingston SDC4/4GB-2ADP : 4GB SHDC which shows write errors when access are not aligned on a boundary. I've first suspect a problem with the Freerunner has the problem only arise when booting from this SD card. But I've tested it latter with a USB card reader (Transcend M5) and found problems when random reading/writing on a partition. I've retried with 1MB aligned partitions and found that everything was going well. So aligning partition is not only a matter of performance, for some card it's also a requirement. To align partition with fdisk from util-linux use the following options: c - toggle msdos compatibility flag u - set unit to sectors instead of cylinder See for example: http://old.nabble.com/-ANNOUNCE--util-linux-ng-v2.17.1-td27685302.html Very interesting. I've not seen that mentioned for SD cards before. I have one of those that's resisted all other attempts to get it working reliably in a Freerunner, but the same partition table is fine when the card is in a usb card reader, or the SD slot on my netbook. I'll have to give this a try. Yes, it's really interesting. I've had troubles with the same Brand on FR, but the 8 GB version (Kingston SDC4/8GB) Now I'm using it on a usb key, but without partitions at all. I think there is the key: People use sd cards without partitions. Even Windows XP doesn't recognice partitions but the first one. That's why manufacturers doesn't bother to say that partition alignation is required. Now I'm using a 16GB trascend on FR, without problems. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] [ANNOUNCE] eStarDict
On Thursday 25 March 2010 08:43:49 Vaudano Luca wrote: Hi! Hi, Vaudano I released the second version of eStarDict. I'm using your program almost daily, it's one of the most useful programs for FR. :) I'm wondering if it would be possible to support sdictionary format. There are a lot of free dictionaries in that format. Babiloo could load them, but not estardict Thanks a lot for your useful software! signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MC Navi
O Xoves, 1 de Abril de 2010, Mike Crash escribiu: Hello, I'm going to release new version of MC Navi and I want to make maps available for direct download. So I want to ask, what country do you need? Spain, please Second question - what do you prefer, car navigation or outdoor navigation? Just to know, what to do next... Car Thank you! -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Set the time zone?
On Tuesday 30 March 2010 09:52:15 Michael Smith wrote: On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 09:31:47 -0400 Iain B. Findleton ifindle...@videotron.ca wrote: While I can set the time, I can't figure how to set the time zone on the FR under SHR-U. The tzselect utility does not work for me for some reason. Any suggestions? This is how I did it: ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/Australia/Sydney /etc/localtime And you should edit /etc/timezone and put there your timezone: r...@om-gta02:~# cat /etc/timezone Europe/Madrid signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] eStarDict
On Monday 08 March 2010 09:26:21 Vaudano Luca wrote: Hi guys, 1) eStarDict doesn't support the sDictionary format 2) performance with the Longman dictionary (43.000 words) the loading time is: babiloo-efl 32 seconds eStarDict 2 seconds ( !!! ) =:) I've just tried it. It rocks! Thank you very much for your work :) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: tangoGPS 0.99.3 is out
On Sunday 14 February 2010 16:53:29 Marcus Bauer wrote: Hi, tangoGPS is out with lots of speed improvements and a lot less of CPU usage. Hi! I have just tried it on SHR-u. It feels faster now, and every bit of speed are wellcome on our not-so-fast FR ;) Might it be possible to add an option for selecting the first tab to show when info button is clicked? I use a lot tangoGPS for OSM, and it would be really great for me to show track options first Thanks a lot for your hard work, Marcus. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Jefliks Jabber-Client release
On Wednesday 17 February 2010 16:02:32 Davide Scaini wrote: On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Richy klemms...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks now it's a little bit more clear, but i think i should specify a server... talk.google.com:5223 You can find more info at: http://www.google.com/talk/otherclients.html One sample configuration you can follow: http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?answer=24074 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtmoko] New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner
On Tuesday 16 February 2010 15:48:49 Radek Polak wrote: On Monday 15 February 2010 19:33:56 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: I think that this is very unfortunate explanation. To me it looks like somebody said that freerunner's graphics sucks and there is no way it will ever be faster and it was taken as a fact. Graphics performance is better of what it seemed could be archieved at the beggining, but Glamo's bus slowness is not something someone said, it's a fact. Also, qtopia (qtextended, qtmoko) do a lot less effects on graphics than enlightment, that's why it's faster. If you turn off shadows, transparency, etc, you can get shr graphics as fast as qtopia. If you don't believe me, you can try SHR's Neo Theme. You will see it's not X, but eyecandy what makes SHR slower than qtopia. You can search lists archives for several threads about this matter, it was spoken to death. Now i just change a few kernel config options and few line patch (thanks to Thomas White) and the graphics speed is very nice. In QVGA it can probably match iPhone or any Android device. No, it can't, at least until we have an OpenGL driver. But it's true that using VGA resolution is a handicap for such a slow graphics chip, and it would be better QVGA for this hardware. Fact is that glamo is a graphics decelerator. It's known that Neo1973 was faster than FreeRunner on graphics (even on VGA), despite of slower processor. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtmoko] New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner
On Tuesday 16 February 2010 17:04:28 ri...@happyleptic.org wrote: It's a fact that to get to this state we're going to have to write a lot of hardware-specific code, and each developer who would potentially work on this stuff has to make their own decision about whether they want to do that for a GPU which won't be found elsewhere. There is another, much more concrete obstacle across this path : AFAIK there are no public release of glamo's datasheet. AFAIK, Thomas has access to Glamo's doc under NDA Isn't it, Thomas? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtmoko] New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner
On Tuesday 16 February 2010 17:18:27 Carsten Haitzler wrote: as for GL.. there is gl-es1.1 - but only minimally useful. can't do vga rendering - so u need to drop to qvga anyway. max texture size of 256x256? Wasn't max texture size 512x512? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MC Navi released
On Friday 12 February 2010 07:19:24 Mike Crash wrote: I'm preparing for some countries downloads. Do you use the same bin format as navit? If so, there are preprocesed countries in this URL: http://downloads.cloudmade.com/ Is there any opkg of your program fot trying it on SHR? Thank you signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Latest SHR-?
On Friday 29 January 2010 09:15:07 n...@el-hennig.de wrote: With the new kernel I was able to register GSM only when I gave the system something to do (start navit for example). Then the modem registered correctly and the PIN dialogue popped up. Sounds strange, but it's just like that (a tribute to the mouse ;-) ). At the moment the debug kernel is better suited for every day use, but on the other hand the system speed the freerunner is capable of is amazing. I'm another one ;) Exactly the same symptoms here. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Latest SHR-?
On Friday 29 January 2010 10:51:46 Edder wrote: On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 10:33 AM, David Garabana Barro Which kernel are you guys using (on shr)? Andy-tracking? I'm using uImage-moredrivers-GTA02_oma-andy-a15608f241a40b41.bin, I'm getting similar errors with shr-u kernel, but less frequently. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QGPSLog to be released
On Friday 29 January 2010 10:53:24 Christ van Willegen wrote: On 1/29/10, Christian Rüb christian.r...@gmx.net wrote: What would be a killer addition is: - Listen for headset button event - Record audio whilst button held - Save audio next to track file. That way, you can easily do audio annotation of tracks (street name, road type, etc.). Would you consider adding this? That would be REALLY great! I do a lot of OSM with my FR signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[H:1] Update
Hi, everyone :) I'm just trying latest hackable:1 image, and I wonder... Is it ok to update hackable:1 r5 using apt? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner
On Monday 18 January 2010 16:52:11 Helge Hafting wrote: Installed the kernel, and the modules. It did not work. Well, X came up and was nice and snappy, but the phone never connected to the GSM network. I tried shr-settings, and GSM could not be turned on! I tried booting several times, I tried restarting various fso daemons that seemed phone-related. Nothing helped. In the end, I flashed the latest shr-unstable kernel, booted, and got a GSM connection just fine. (I use shr-unstable of today.) Too bad this kernel didn't work, it seemed very interesting. I don't know what is causing gsm to not register, but it's not kernel, for sure. Sometimes it registers for me and sometimes it doesn't, with both standard shr kernel and stripped kernel. It seems registration is more frequent with standard kernel. Might it be for worse performance? (some daemon which starts before another one with stripped kernel, for example) For me, it seems if you let FR boot with no iteration, it almost never register. If you do things (f.e. open an applicaiotn) just when illume desktop appears on display, it's more probable to obtain a registration. Just my experience... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner
On Monday 18 January 2010 17:13:42 David Garabana Barro wrote: On Monday 18 January 2010 16:52:11 Helge Hafting wrote: Installed the kernel, and the modules. It did not work. Well, X came up and was nice and snappy, but the phone never connected to the GSM network. I tried shr-settings, and GSM could not be turned on! I tried booting several times, I tried restarting various fso daemons that seemed phone-related. Nothing helped. In the end, I flashed the latest shr-unstable kernel, booted, and got a GSM connection just fine. (I use shr-unstable of today.) Too bad this kernel didn't work, it seemed very interesting. I don't know what is causing gsm to not register, but it's not kernel, for sure. Sometimes it registers for me and sometimes it doesn't, with both standard shr kernel and stripped kernel. It seems registration is more frequent with standard kernel. Might it be for worse performance? (some daemon which starts before another one with stripped kernel, for example) For me, it seems if you let FR boot with no iteration, it almost never register. If you do things (f.e. open an applicaiotn) just when illume desktop appears on display, it's more probable to obtain a registration. Just my experience... And sometimes, but only sometimes, when not registered on boot, I can force registration simply by rebooting libphoneui from shr-settings Sometimes it doesn't matter what daemon you reboot. It doesn't register :( signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qspectemu - zx spectrum emulator port for Freerunner
On Wednesday 13 January 2010 16:25:36 Radek Polak wrote: Hi, i have just finished porting of spectemu[1] to Qt and Freerunner. It's now in QtMoko package feed if you want to try it or you can compile from sources for your favourite distro. Thank you! :) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner
On Friday 08 January 2010 19:23:00 Timo Jyrinki wrote: Hi, Just FYI to the community list, as slowness has been one of the biggest problems with Neo. Quite nice speedups are coming: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2010-January/010811.htm l (performance testing by Gennady Kupava) WOW! Its *REALLY* faster. You can feel it from the very first touch: SHR-Today :) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
On Tuesday 29 December 2009 21:30:53 Risto H. Kurppa wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? No Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Yes. What distribution you run most of the time? SHR-u If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? Using my old Nokia, waiting for better PIM on FR. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [WikiReader] Battery Life
O Sábado, 12 de Decembro de 2009, Jeff escribiu: Alkaline, the original energizer batteries that came with the device. I may have some NiMH batteries lying around somewhere, but I don't have any AAA lithium polymer nor a suitable charger. NiMH will be even worse. They autodischarge 5-10% on first day, and 1% every next day... -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [H:1] New Keyboard! t9brain
On Thursday 10 December 2009 10:19:44 Tony McKeehan wrote: I've made a new keyboard, built specifically for the Hackable:1 distro. I can supply the source if someone wants to build a package for SHR or QTMoko. Before that, though, it needs a severe face-lift, if anybody is willing to help me on that front. My specialty is basically everything but making it look pretty. A simple E-based design would be nice... Please Don't start a new thread replying to an old one... If you use a threaded mailreader (you should), you'll get new thread inside old one... Thank you :) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] BT Keyboard
O Domingo, 6 de Decembro de 2009, Christ van Willegen escribiu: Hi everyone, I'm using a BT keyboard (right now! Yeah!). I've asked it on other thread (Freedom Slim Keyboard works!), but nobody answered ;) Can yor reconnect BT keyboard to FR after turning it off? Using mdbus -s org.bluez /org/bluez/1871/hci0/dev_00_18_00_00_00_00 org.bluez.Input.Connect doesn't work for me, and I have to unbond it and rebond before I can use it again. -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Experiment: better sound on remote end
O Mércores, 2 de Decembro de 2009, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak escribiu: On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 15:17, David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.com wrote: You can try the state.file from old SHR... Here old one was unusable at all here, new one is quite good. And new one was official Openmoko's one, and now you can adjust volume with sliders in UI - so what's the problem? If you say sliders now store last value, I suppose there's not problem. But initially you had to adjust volume on every call... not so practical. -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Experiment: better sound on remote end
On Wednesday 02 December 2009 15:12:36 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 02:56:28PM +0100, arne anka wrote: did you ever change the gsmhandset.state file after applied buzz fix? the tracker links to an improved file specifically tuned for buzz fixed devices and so far used by a lot of peoples. I'm using current SHR with the state file that's provided. I can't understand why they changed state file. Old one worked OK on most Neos. New one sounds bad on almost every one... You can try the state.file from old SHR... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] Babiloo on Openmoko - Second milestone
On Tuesday 24 November 2009 16:55:14 Vaudano Luca wrote: I solved the second problem, messages always on top, and I released the file 2.0.9-2b as usual in the opkg website. The one on shr feeds still have these problems. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] Babiloo on Openmoko - Second milestone
O Martes, 24 de Novembro de 2009, Vaudano Luca escribiu: I solved the second problem, messages always on top, and I released the file 2.0.9-2b as usual in the opkg website. I get the following error when installing: opkg install http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Evaudano/babiloo/efl/annotate/head%3A/doc/efl/releasedFiles/babiloo_2.0.9-2b _all.ipk Downloading http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Evaudano/babiloo/efl/annotate/head%3A/doc/efl/releasedFiles/babiloo_2.0.9-2b_all.ipk opkg: invalid magic I remember to have suffered this same error some time ago, but I cannot remember the solution! -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] Babiloo on Openmoko - Second milestone
O Martes, 24 de Novembro de 2009, Vaudano Luca escribiu: Yes, I know also to me opkg gives me this error.. but the application works. Maybe my way for creating the ipk package is not 100% compliant. Could you confirm that the application work? Yes, it works Thank you -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The magic of ReiserFS
O Luns, 23 de Novembro de 2009, Michael escribiu: I bought an 8GB micro sd card with the intention of storing OpenStreetMap tile for Tango GPS onto it. I could store up to zoom level 14, but zoom level 15 was one step too far in terms of size. I knew this was due to the block size of the filesystem, but even a block size of 512 bytes would have a lot of overhead. I had read about the small file performance of reiserfs, so I thought I would give it a try. I created a sparse file reiserfs filesystem and loopback mounted it and copied the files up to zoom level 15 onto it. Amazingly the sparse file only grew to 2.6GB while the tar file for zoom level 14 alone was 2.5GB. I copied the sparse file onto the micro sd, inserted it into the Neo, and booted it with a reiserfs enabled kernel. The file mounted on the Neo ok and Tango GPS seemed to be able to read the files ok (made sure it could do it with the internet disconnected). I ran a du on the Maps directory and it came to 9.7GB, but reiserfs managed to get the storage down to 2.6GB which certainly seems like magic, especially since it also managed to outdo tar as well. I am going to see if I can get zoom level 16 onto the card as well. Yes, I have tried to put several tangogps tiles on ext3 (before OM kernel supported ReiserFS), but even with minimal blocksize, overhead was too much. You had also to raise inodes to several millions when creating the fs, and I ran out of inodes several times... With ReiserFS, wasted space is minimal, thanks to tailpacking, and you forget about inode limits. :) -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Xorg Glamo
I think those are GREAT news: http://www.bitwiz.org.uk/s/2009/11/look-ma-no-busywaits.html http://www.bitwiz.org.uk/s/2009/11/internal-memory-bottlenecks-and-their-removal.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Xorg Glamo
On Thursday 19 November 2009 11:03:12 Thomas White wrote: On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:32:25 +0100 I aim to please :) Just bear in mind that neither of these things impact significantly on the Glamo bandwidth limitation, which is the thing that most seriously limits our graphics performance (by a HUGE margin). And since we barely make use of Glamo's acceleration features, it doesn't add up to much of a change. Still a step in the right direction, though. I I know the bandwith handicap, and I know it's not possible to improve that, but having free CPU time while Glamo is drawing should allow to calculate things (as next frames) instead of waiting glamo to finish. Shouldn't it? Correct me if I'm wrong, I have almost no idea about graphics drivers... It occurred to me that the Glamo-accelerated mplayer should work a whole lot better with the FIFO patch, and even better still if someone made it use DRI/DRM. Anyone up for an interesting project? :) Should FIFO patch have some impact on normal (Xorg) use? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fun]Pipboy2009 first alpha prototype(v0.01)
On Tuesday 17 November 2009 17:11:01 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: Quite off topic... but WTF, are you really still using Om2007.2? O_o Well, I understand, it's *much* better than Om2008, but 2008 is also abandoned and I now really recommend some FSO based distro... ;) Couldn't it be Hackable::1? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] NumberX - a mathematical puzzle game
On Wednesday 04 November 2009 01:30:38 Valery Febvre wrote: Hi, I'm proud to announce the first release of NumberX. Really GREAT! I'm completely hooked on it ;) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [wikireader] Images on the WR not so imposible :P [was [wikireader]Error on parsing the spanish wikipedia]
On Tuesday 03 November 2009 09:46:44 Alexander Shulgin wrote: Can we run zlib and, wait-wait... libpng on the device? :) Good point! png compress 1 bit images a lot! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [wikireader] Images on the WR not so imposible :P [was [wikireader]Error on parsing the spanish wikipedia]
On Tuesday 03 November 2009 12:15:11 David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: Regarding compression, I believe lzma is already builded in the wikireader application and it compress the images a 50%. enough for start I guess. but I have to recongnize than the image on png looks really good do maybe it worth the meaning to implemente it on the device if it's not much resource hungr Both png and pbm are 1 bit images without lossy compression. You can obtain exactly the same final image quality on both formats, but png will have smaller disk size. Final result only depends on RGB-1 bit indexed conversion method used. AFAIK png decompression is not resource hungry. Compression *IS*. PS For minimal png archive size, you *MUST* convert image to 1 bit indexed palette before saving it. If you use greyscale, RBG or more than 1 bit palette, png will waste space saving palette or RBG/greyscale info. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Babiloo on Openmoko - Second milestone
On Tuesday 03 November 2009 12:47:31 Vaudano Luca wrote: Hi guys, I just release the second milestone of Babiloo, a offline dictionaries reader, for SHR. WOW According to data on wiki, performance improvements seems HUGE! Thanks for this (very) useful program! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit - german localization causes rounding of GPS-position
O Sábado, 31 de Outubro de 2009, Christian Rüb escribiu: Hi, I had the same problem. Also bookmarks will be saved using comma instead of dot a separator (locale settings). As a workaround I unset LC_ALL before starting navit (i.e. Exec=unset LC_ALL; navit in /usr/share/applications/navit.desktop). That way your LANG variable keeps set to de_DE.UTF-8, but locale settings are not in German... I posted this in navit ML back in July - but no response if this is intended or a bug :( At least is't sure it's a known bug/feature: http://wiki.navit- project.org/index.php/FAQ#My_position_is_reported_incorrectly -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 12:46:01 Marc Andre Tanner wrote: but.. if i were smart.. i'd not develop apps for the freerunner. it's a dead product. it has no more being produced. it has no evolution path. there won't be a gtao3, 04, 05 etc. everyone quit or was fired/let go from om that worked on phones.. or worked on pretty much anything. your future is other devices.. I personally belive that the gta02-core project is a wonderful idea and that Openmoko Inc should have done it that way from the start. So in terms of openness and freedom this is a big step forward and I hope we will eventually see a gta03 (even a gta02 without glamo as the current plan is should improve graphic performance as you previously explained). +1 Besides there are no real alternatives which provides the same kind of openess. So all in all I think we should focus on getting the best out of our current open platform this will at the same time guarantee that it will be lightening fast on a newer device. +1 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Tango-GPS, omgps: download maps?
On Friday 23 October 2009 13:53:39 Klaus Fürth wrote: Hi, is it possible to download the map-tiles for offline use? I know that the apps can download the current maps, but doing this via gprs is too expansive for me. I do it from tangogps: -Neo connected to internet via USB/wifi -Open TangoGPS -Zoom level 11, center on the zone you want to download - tap anywhere on the map - On the menu, select Map Download- +6 zoom levels - Tangogps will download all tiles for 17 zoom 11 and will place them on ~/Maps/OSM You can do the same for zoom levels 11. Then you can use them from omgps, Advanced Geocaching, etc... You can even install tangogps on your PC, follow the same procedure, and then copy ~/Maps/OSM to your Neo's card. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
