Re: Freerunner GPIO locations

[Robin Paulson]

On 18 February 2014 15:22, Paul Wise  wrote:
>> any schematics out there with their location? ideally something which
>> relates them to the nodes in /sys/class/gpio/
>
> These are the schematics I can find related to this:
>
> http://downloads.openmoko.org/developer/schematics/GTA02/Schematics_Freerunner-GTA02_A5-A7cumulative_public_RC0.pdf
> http://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/doc/hardware/GTA02v4/gpio.txt


hi,
yes, thanks for those, i have seen them already. they help, but don't
enable me to relate the nodes in /sys/class/gpio/ to anything on the
board. the specific files in that directory are:

gpiochip0
gpiochip160
gpiochip224
gpiochip416
gpiochip480
gpiochip96
gpio164
gpiochip128
gpiochip192
gpiochip32
gpiochip448
gpiochip64

how do those files relate/connect to the components and solder pads
listed on the schematics? which point on the board would i solder to
if i wanted to control, say, the gpio named "gpio164", or "gpiochip0"?

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Freerunner GPIO locations

[Robin Paulson]

hi all,
apologies if this question is answered elsewhere, i've done lots of
searching of the openmoko wiki and the web, and can't find an answer

i'd like to interface my freerunner with hardware switches to control
some software. i believe gpio is the best way to do this, and have
help from various bodies at my local maker space to do so.

problem is, i can't locate the gpio pins on the motherboard. are there
any schematics out there with their location? ideally something which
relates them to the nodes in /sys/class/gpio/

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Re: [Gta04-owner] QtMoko v45

[Robin Paulson]

On 2 July 2012 19:59, Radek Polak  wrote:
> On Monday, July 02, 2012 08:01:55 AM Robin Paulson wrote:
>
>> great to see qtmoko progressing more, v45-1 installing now. i see that
>> GTA02 only gets kernel 2.6.34, is there any reason why not a more
>> recent kernel, like GTA04 has? is there something missing upstream,
>> radek?
>
> I think 2.6.34 is last kernel for Freerunner which works reasonably for daily
> usage. But since my daily phone is GTA04 i have stopped watching GTA02 kernel.
> If someone provides good newer kernel i can integrate it in QtMoko.

oh, are there some downstream changes that have not been merged back
into the kernel?

or some other reason why 3.x is not suitable?

is it not a case of compiling and creating a .deb package?

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Re: QtMoko v45

[Robin Paulson]

On 13 June 2012 10:40, Radek Polak  wrote:
> Hi,
> QtMoko v45 is out now. You can get images for GTA02 (Freerunner) here[1] and
> GTA04 (Phoenux) here[2].
>
> For more info about QtMoko please visit our homepage [3].
>
> This is list of changes since previous v44 version:
>
>   * fixed wifi password not saving problem
>   * new big transparent keyboard
>   * GTA04 has new 3.4 kernel thanks to Neil Brown

great to see qtmoko progressing more, v45-1 installing now. i see that
GTA02 only gets kernel 2.6.34, is there any reason why not a more
recent kernel, like GTA04 has? is there something missing upstream,
radek?

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Re: problems with qtmoko continuously re-starting

[Robin Paulson]

On 17 May 2012 18:35, Radek Polak  wrote:
> It looks like bluetooth adapter and bluez are not working. You can try:
>
> /etc/init.d/bluetooth stop
>
> or
>
> update-rc.d -f bluetooth remove
>
>
> First commands stops bluetooth and after that qtmoko will start ok. Second
> one disable bluetooth during init, so you will have qtmoko working also
> after restart (but without bluetooth).

success! it is working now

>
> If you need bluetooth we have to figure out what is wrong with it. You can

i think i physically fubar'd the bluetooth board when i replaced the
screen. i remember thinking i had pressed too hard and wondered which
part of the phone it was. fortunately i've never used bluetooth and
don't intent to, so no problems.

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Re: problems with qtmoko continuously re-starting

[Robin Paulson]

On 16 May 2012 22:28, Radek Polak  wrote:
> You can try to start qtmoko from ssh:
>
> ssh root@192.168.0.202
>
> /etc/init.d/qtmoko-neo stop
>
> . /opt/qtmoko/qpe.env
>
> qpe
>
> It should print something useful.

it printed this, i'm not sure what it means:
QDBusObjectPath: invalid path ""
Method call  "/->DefaultAdapter()"  failed:
QDBusError("org.bluez.Error.NoSuchAdapter", "No such adapter")

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problems with qtmoko continuously re-starting

[Robin Paulson]

hi all,
i broke the screen on my freerunner a while back (although it still
displayed, and the touch part sort of worked), and put a new one in
last week, bought from a seller on ebay.

i booted the freerunner up, and the screen appeared to work fine, boot
text was moving across the screen. however, when qtmoko started, the
timer thing in the centre of the screen stayed on, and then qtmoko
restarted. then it restarted again, and again, and again. i ran top
via ssh from my laptop, and cpu for qpe is very high all the time.

so, i uninstalled and purged qtmoko, then reinstalled (v.44-1). same
thing again.

any suggestions what to do? i've checked the connections on the screen
and they are fine. i wonder if it's anything to do with the
calibration of the touchpad? is there anyway to manually edit it, i.e.
a .conf file somewhere?

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qtmoko - media player errors

[Robin Paulson]

hi,
i installed the codecs application this week, to allow my phone to
play back mp3 files.

i have copied some of my music to the phone and attempted to play it.
around 5% of the tracks will play, the rest will not - i've tested
probably 80. the track is ether skipped entirely or a message pops up
'the connection was broken'

any ideas what is happening? i'm using the default qtmoko media
player, and mp3s mostly encoded with LAME (not that this should
matter, should it?).

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qtmoko - qgcide and dictionary location

[Robin Paulson]

hi,
i recently installed the qgcide application and on first run it asked
to download the data files.

but it tries to download them to /media/card/, which is only 7.5mb (it
has the kernel on it)

my questions are:
1. why is it downloaded to this location, not /usr/share/ or /var/ or
even /home/?
2. is there any way to change the location it downloads to, without recompiling?

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Re: tangogps and qtmoko

[Robin Paulson]

On 12 May 2011 17:28, Gianluigi  wrote:
> this is my /etc/default/gpsd content:
>
> # Default settings for gpsd.
> # Please do not edit this file directly - use `dpkg-reconfigure gpsd' to
> # change the options.
> START_DAEMON="true"
> GPSD_OPTIONS=""
> DEVICES="/dev/ttySAC1"
> USBAUTO="false"
> GPSD_SOCKET="/var/run/gpsd.sock"

excellent, that did it. cheers

what does USBAUTO="false" do by the way?

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Re: tangogps and qtmoko

[Robin Paulson]

On 12 May 2011 09:12, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz  wrote:
>> Try to use window manager in setup. I've added Matchbox also; you'll
>> have the "X" top-right corner to close application.
>
> I've done the same to fix it in my device. It works well. Use fullscreen
> option in tango/foxtrot then you save the "X" space.

thanks for the suggestions guys, that worked great.

i've got a further problem now though: i can't get a gps fix. i've
installed gpsd, and the port it pushes its data to is the same as the
port tangogps looks on, but no go. i've left it outside in areas where
i've previously got a good signal (with shr and other distros), so i'm
sure it's the software. is there another component in the gps stack i
need - there's nothing on the qtmoko or openmoko wiki about it

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tangogps and qtmoko

[Robin Paulson]

hi,
i have the latest qtmoko (35) installed on my freerunner. i also have
tanggogps installed, used via QX.

the problem is, when i run tango, it only uses 3/4 of the screen

then, if i hit 'info' to show the config, etc., that takes up around a
1/3 of the screen, and can't be closed, plus i can't read all the info
on the different tabs. i've tried 'rotate screen' in the qx setup for
tango, but it doesn't rotate or make any difference at all.

any suggestions?

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Re: [debian] won't boot

[Robin Paulson]

On 17 January 2011 21:21, Radek Polak  wrote:
>> so, i put some symlinks in /boot (in the 2nd partition on the sd),
>> pointing to uImage, config and sysmap (in the first partition on the
>> sd). it still won't boot, and i'm a bit lost now.
>
> You can try hold POWER buttton when you are booting, qi will make kernel more
> verbose so you can see the actual error.

very verbose. but i don't know what i'm looking for, so kind of stuck

any suggestions? anything i can look for in a log (it's also moving
kind of fast)?

> Also please make sure you have append-GTA02 whith rootwait parameter on your
> SD card:
>
> cd /boot
> echo "console=tty0 loglevel=3 rootwait" > append-GTA02
>
> you can also try e.g. rootdelay=10 instead of rootwait.

i tried that, and still not getting anything. also, doesn't the debian
install script handle all that? i recall trying this over a year ago
and it worked flawlessly

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Re: qtmoko and ubifs

[Robin Paulson]

On 17 January 2011 20:00, Gennady Kupava  wrote:
> В Пнд, 17/01/2011 в 13:21 +1300, Robin Paulson пишет:
>> hi,
>> i tried flashing the latest qtmoko last night - it flashed with no
>> errors, but then wouldn't boot. lots of errors such as:
>> INFO: RCU detected CPU 0 stall (t=4294910048/2000 jiffies)
>> INFO: RCU detected CPU 0 stall (t=4294916048/2000 jiffies)
>> INFO: RCU detected CPU 0 stall (t=4294922048/14000 jiffies)
>>
>> i used a very recent version of neotool (from last week i think), and
>> the version of dfu in ubuntu 10.10
>>
>> http://qtmoko.org/wiki/Installation#Method_1:_Installing_on_NAND
>>
>> and according to this, that should work
>>
>> or have i missed something?
>
> Hi,
>
> "INFO: RCU detected CPU 0 stall (t=4294910048/2000 jiffies)" means that
> debugging is on.  Look like you installed old distro. Current stable
> qtmoko is v31.

this was version 31.

is there anything different between the setup of ubifs version and
jffs2 version?

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[debian] won't boot

[Robin Paulson]

hi,
i recently installed qtmoko v26 on internal flash, and from there used
the wiki instructions to install debian on sd. the install ran all the
way through, and gave a me a message that all was well. except, it
won't boot. i have qi installed, and if i read the wiki correctly, it
will auto boot the first os on the sd card, so long as the kernel is
in the correct position.

so, i put some symlinks in /boot (in the 2nd partition on the sd),
pointing to uImage, config and sysmap (in the first partition on the
sd). it still won't boot, and i'm a bit lost now.

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qtmoko and ubifs

[Robin Paulson]

hi,
i tried flashing the latest qtmoko last night - it flashed with no
errors, but then wouldn't boot. lots of errors such as:
INFO: RCU detected CPU 0 stall (t=4294910048/2000 jiffies)
INFO: RCU detected CPU 0 stall (t=4294916048/2000 jiffies)
INFO: RCU detected CPU 0 stall (t=4294922048/14000 jiffies)

i used a very recent version of neotool (from last week i think), and
the version of dfu in ubuntu 10.10

http://qtmoko.org/wiki/Installation#Method_1:_Installing_on_NAND

and according to this, that should work

or have i missed something?

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Re: qtmoko - "Please Wait..."

[Robin Paulson]

On 12 July 2010 19:07, Fernando Martins  wrote:
> After boot, I don't get the request for the pin code. The screen
> displays a "No network" message and no response to screen touches. I
> press the power button to get the shutdown menu. I cancel it and then
> the pin code request screen appears. However, I am not able to type
> anything and all I see is a "Please Wait..." message.
>
> If I boot the FR with usb cable connected, I get the chance to enter the
> pin code.
>
> Can I do something to fix this issue?

i find turning off, taking out the sim and battery for 20 minutes or so fixes it

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gsm mesh network without cell towers or telcos

[Robin Paulson]

i heard about this on radio nz national yesterday: a uni researcher in
australia has designed and implemented a system for building
distributed, de-centralised mesh networks out of (so i understand it)
gsm phones

yes,
no cell towers needed
no telcos needed

i can't find much on him, beyond his web page at the university:
http://www.flinders.edu.au/people/paul.gardner-stephen

which has these snippets:

# Implementing the Mesh Potato feature-set on Android based smart
phones to enable the creation of mixed mobile and land-line
self-meshing ad-hoc telephone networks
# Creating distributed infrastructure-free protocols that allow people
to use their existing telephone numbers on ad-hoc telephone networks,
both for temporary disaster-relief telephony and ad-hoc telephony for
remote and emerging regions.

he talks about using it for disaster relief, but i think that's a
trivial use: breaking the stranglehold of mobile telcos over us is far
more venerable

has anyone else heard of this? does anyone else have better google
skills and can find more?

i'd love to see this or an equivalent on the openmoko. now *that*
would 'free my phone'

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Re: Freerunner Firewall

[Robin Paulson]

On 18 June 2010 07:05, Shosholoza  wrote:
>
> Your firewall it would be good for me. How can I load the right module? I
> think it is necessary module "ipt_state".

this might help.
http://edoceo.com/liber/linux-kernel-modules

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[qtmoko] phone auto-turns on at 12 midday

[Robin Paulson]

well, the subject line pretty much sums it up

i was sat at my desk a few moments ago, when my phone turned itself
on. it's running version 22 of qtmoko.

i'd noticed a couple of days previously that it had been on some
afternoons, when i was sure i'd turned it off earlier in the day.

there is a recurring alarm set, but it's for 7am

has anyone else seen this? any idea what might be causing it?

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Re: using multiple window systems - selecting at boot

[Robin Paulson]

On 15 May 2010 21:37, Al Johnson  wrote:
> You could use a different init level for each, say 3 for Qt and 5 for X, then
> use telinit or similar to switch between them.

ok, that sounds interesting. could you point me at some resources on
how to use init levels and telinit?

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Re: using multiple window systems - selecting at boot

[Robin Paulson]

On 16 May 2010 00:38, Alex Samorukov  wrote:
> With Qi its possible to put different systems on different partitions on
> the SD drive.
>
> Also it supports control files to skip partition on boot.
> Only way to change bootable partition on a boot time with Qi is to keep
> AUX button after power on - it will boot from internal flash then.
> Otherwise you may use control files on different partition to choose
> which OS to boot. See Qi wiki for more details.

no, i don't want two different OSs. i want one OS (debian), and at
boot/logon/whatever, a choice of whether debian uses X or Qt

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using multiple window systems - selecting at boot

[Robin Paulson]

i'm investigating changing to debian as the os for my fr. it appears i
can use either qtmoko, or the shr suite of apps on top of this. if i
install both, how would i go about choosing which environment (Qt/X)
boots at startup? on my desktop i'd probably see if grub could do it,
but as there is no grub i'm a bit stuck here.

any suggestions?

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Re: SHR phoneui-contacts buddy icons

[Robin Paulson]

On 5 May 2010 00:30, Bernd Prünster  wrote:
>> I was wondering what are the green one eyed alien that appear next to
>> the contact name in Contacts list. I thought that it was an icon to
>> replace with your friends photos, but I don't find where to change it.
>>
>> Sorry again for the silly question.
>>
> Add a Photo field in the contact view. upon editing that field a file
> browser will appear to choose the picture

the following would be potentially useful:
add a user to contacts, let's call him 'John Smith'
take a photo of John
place the photo in /home/$user/.contact_photos/John Smith.jpg
then, on using contacts/dialler/messages/etc., john's photo
automatically appears

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Re: has anyone tried this usb hub with their freerunner?

[Robin Paulson]

On 15 March 2010 21:32, Robin Paulson  wrote:
> as an update, i realised after reading the *whole* page on usb cables,
> that i could use a Y-cable + some bash scripting, instead of buying a

hmm, apparently bash scripting is a clumsy way to do this. is there a
decent, maintained app for shr which will allow me to set the charge
status? is this a planned feature for shr-settings?

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Re: has anyone tried this usb hub with their freerunner?

[Robin Paulson]

On 15 March 2010 05:13, Mike Crash  wrote:
> Not this type, but I bought the cheapest one I have found and it works well.
> See
> http://www.mikecrash.com/index.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=10

as an update, i realised after reading the *whole* page on usb cables,
that i could use a Y-cable + some bash scripting, instead of buying a
hub. far cheaper, and i don't have to wait for postage from hk

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Re: pisi cannot fetch contacts from sim in shr. please help

[Robin Paulson]

On 13 March 2010 18:24, Chuck Norris  wrote:
> ok. that does the trick. Now pisi have another problem:



>    raise UnknownMethodException('%s is not a valid method of interface
> %s' % (method_name, dbus_interface))
> UnknownMethodException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod:
> Unknown method: GetUsedBackends is not a valid method of interface
> org.freesmartphone.PIM.Contact
>
> this problem with opimd I suppose. It converts contacts from sim to
> local vcf succesfully.
> So is it possible to tell opimd use vcf?

i got this error, and mistakenly hit yes when it asked to continue
processing. my contacts are all visible now, so i guess it worked
ok.at your risk, though

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has anyone tried this usb hub with their freerunner?

[Robin Paulson]

or anything similar?

http://cgi.ebay.com/High-Speed-Smart-3-Ports-USB-Hub-5-Pin-Cable-for-PC_W0QQitemZ260567368077QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3cab06818d

i'd like to power the phone, while i have a flash drive and another
usb device plugged into it

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Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?

[Robin Paulson]

On 7 February 2010 10:16, Ed Falk  wrote:
> I bought my Freerunner over a year ago.  On the first boot, it made a
> very loud raucus sound which, as far as I know, blew out the speaker, as
> I have never heard an undistorted sound come out of it.

am i still using my fr?

i realised that mobile phones are another pointless gadget that
ultimately doesn't make my life any better, and are only there to
funnel more money and control to vodafone/other bad telcos.

so, no i'm not using my fr, or any phone. and loving it! and probably
about to unsubscribe from here

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Re: tangogps 0.99.1

[Robin Paulson]

2010/1/11 GNUtoo :
>> I'll make that configurable in one of the next versions of tangoGPS.
> hi,Thanks for making tangogps,
> I've also a suggestion, I'd like to be able to configure the speed
> limit(so when the speed goes red), because last time I used
> tangogps(during the last summer hollidays) When I was in a car the speed
> limit was about 50Km/h.That's fine in a city but not on a highway(about
> 130 Km/h in France)

perhaps multi-coloured would be useful?

green or black of it's under the urban limit (configurable), orange if
it's over the urban limit but under the motorway limit (also
configurable), and red if it's over the motorway limit

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openmoko to computer calls

[Robin Paulson]

i've previously been using skype on my desktop to call other people
via their computers. i'd like to investigate other options for calling
- asking the other user to install different software is not
necessarily a problem

i'm not sure where to start; what software is available (i'm using
shr-u) to do this?

cheers

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Re: sd card

[Robin Paulson]

2009/12/28  :
> im using neovento 5.6. im trying to see some pics i have on my sd
> card. How do i get it to work. some help please. the sd card is vfat.

is the card mounted? can you cd to it from the command-line?

if so, do you have image software installed? i can recommend neon if you don't

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Re: Where can I buy miniUSB-m → USB-A-f adapters i n Canada?

[Robin Paulson]

2009/11/23 Brolin Empey :
> (2 for me, 2 for my colleague)  I have 2 questions, though:
>
> 1. Can the FreeRunner charge while in USB Host mode?

yes

> 2. If yes, how can I simultaneously connect a USB hub + power supply/source
> to the FreeRunner?

there's a cable that has been made/bought by a few fr owners, which
will allow this. it's detailed on the om wiki:

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Specialized_USB_cables

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Re: future phones that you can hack. news.

[Robin Paulson]

2009/11/18  :
> If we are allowed to hack it as much as you are allowed to speack about it,
> well...

steady on, i think both you and christoph are jumping to unfair
conclusions there

let's wait and see, before we lay into it or the programmers

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Re: Received SMS going unnoticed

[Robin Paulson]

2009/11/13 Ben Wilson :
> Good idea,
> Could use the accelerometers to sense it being picked up.
> Couldn't do it in gta01 though, since it doesn't have the sensors.

d'oh! yeah, i meant accelerometers, not vibrators. of course, the
notification would follow whatever is defined in the settings|profiles

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Re: Received SMS going unnoticed

[Robin Paulson]

2009/11/13 Ben Wilson :
> What would be ideal is for it to keep playing the new message sound
> every few minutes while the new message popup is being displayed. Does
> anyone have a cron script or anything to solve this problem.

personally, i would find it very useful to tie this in to the
vibrators, so when i pick the phone up, it notifies me again of a
text/missed call.

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Re: Looking for a convenient tool

[Robin Paulson]

2009/11/7  :
> I'm looking for a program that, given a set of shell commands, display
> a gtk window with a button that runs each command.
> I have looked at zenity but it apparently lacks the button widgets.
>
> Do you know of something similar, or should I write it myself ?

have a look at gtkdialog - it's similar to zenity, but far more
flexible and powerful

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Re: tangogps 0.9.8

[Robin Paulson]

2009/11/2 Marcus Bauer :
> I have currently no working OE here and there are now too many
> distribs. However, you can try the armel.deb. Just extract the tangogps
> binary from the .deb (do it on your desktop/laptop) and copy it to your
> Neo.

.deb packages can be installed natively with opkg.

you'll need to edit /etc/opkg/arch.conf, and add 'arch armel 36'
(without the quotes) to the bottom

then do

wget http://www.tangogps.org/downloads/tangogps_0.9.8-1_armel.deb

and

opkg install tangogps_0.9.8-1_armel.deb

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Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

[Robin Paulson]

2009/10/29 Ken Young :
> 2) The Freerunner has one, and ONLY ONE, feature which is somewhat
> better than what is found on a typical smart phone.   The VGA display.

no.
you're right, the fr has one feature better than any other smartphone,
but it's not the screen. it's not any of the hardware, it's far more
important than that

it's the openness

give the user a choice, let them decide if they want pixels or speed.
that's what open is about

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Re: [SHR] which to use?

[Robin Paulson]

2009/10/30 Tony McKeehan :
> I was thinking about try SHR again, but I don't know which image I
> should use.
>
> I heard somewhere that there was a mostly-stable image built in October,
> but I can't find it anywhere. I have the unstable from early September,
> but I thought that there was something more recent than that.

from the shr build repo, it looks like the last update to unstable was sept 18th

http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk/armv4t/

and that ties in with my recollections of the last update

as to which to use, unstable is actually pretty stable. it does phone
calls and text messages no problem. i'm pretty happy with it, and the
maintainers include new packages (intone, launcher, etc.) fairly
quickly

there's never been a stable release of shr, but there is a testing
release, which is supposedly more stable than unstable, but that's
apparently as old as may:

http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/

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Re: Understanding accelerometer data

[Robin Paulson]

2009/10/30 Neil Jerram :
> I'd expect the x and y values to be much smaller than the z values
> (compared to the ratios here) because of the z value including
> gravity.  Am I misunderstanding what the data is telling me?

yes. acceleration is change of velocity. if there is no change in
velocity, there will be no acceleration. hence, if the phone is still,
all acc values should be zero. gravity or not, there is no net acc on
the phone. i don't know the format the accelerometers output data in,
but i'd take a punt that the values shown are noise. try running one
of the acc scripts on the wiki and going for a walk/run/climbing
steps/waving it around/car ride with it, to see what sort of acc
values you can get for different activities

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Re: [SHR] Accelerometers

[Robin Paulson]

2009/10/26 Ivo van den Maagdenberg :
> No luck. The paths specified on the page you refer to do not exits on the
> SHR release.

try the accelerometers page - you might find more help on there

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Accelerometer_data_retrieval

at the very least, you should be able to use one of those scripts to
read the data

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Re: web-manager 0.2

[Robin Paulson]

2009/10/17 Baruch Even :
> To those who don't know web-manager is my take on oshyrman, it's a web
> interface to the freerunner (actually, to FSO infrastructure) and it
> currently shows the GSM reception, GPX traces from tangogps, lists
> contacts from opimd and lists messages from opimd.

are there any plans to allow conversion of those tangogps .log traces
to .gpx, along with upload to an osm account?

> I really suck at doing UIs and web UIs in particular, the RPC that I
> implement is REST-like (I'm no puritan in that respect) and provides
> JSON output to simple requests. The web interface is written in jQuery
> and is really in need of some love. Anyone wants to take it to the next
> level and actually use the full abilities of HTML/CSS/JS to make it a
> great interface?
>
> Feedback is most welcome!

where is it?

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Re: [SHR-U] Keyboard layouts for extremely fat fingers

[Robin Paulson]

2009/10/10 Michael Smith :
> I have created two keyboard layouts for the illume keyboard. They are 
> available from this repository:
>
> http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/openmoko-keyboards/file/tip
>
> The layouts each have keys as large as I can make them. I found the existing 
> layouts to be of little use without a stylus.
>

could you post some screenshots?

cheers

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Re: evopedia 0.2.3 release

[Robin Paulson]

2009/10/9 Christian :
> The following dump languages are available at the moment:
> Dutch, French, German, Italian, Polish and Spanish.

could you supply the code used to create the dumps? i realise your
reticence to create the english dump (i assume size?) - i would be
interested in creating my own though

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Re: tangogps 0.9.7 release

[Robin Paulson]

2009/10/3 Helge Hafting :
> Actually, I got a mail once telling me not to do that. Seems there were
> limited room on servers, and "too much" of my tracks were "known stuff".
> So now I only edit with josm, I don't upload tracks.

who told you that? i'd be very surprised if that was anyone who
actually had an involvement with the osm infrastructure (servers,
etc.). the people involved in maintaining and directing osm are pretty
light in their instructions to everyone else (which has good and bad
side effects...)

myself, i'd be inclined to ignore them and carry on uploading tracks

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Re: recommendations for headset or 3.5mm adapter

[Robin Paulson]

2009/9/28 Stefan Buschmann :
> I also thought about soldering my own adapter, although my soldering
> skills are near to zero, but that might also be good for practicing :-)
> So, would it be possible to solder a wire like this?
>
> - 1 x 2.5mm
> to
> - 2 x 3.5mm (one for standard earphone, one for standard microphone)
>
> That way I could use standard earphones or a PC-headset, which would be
> very nice. And given the configuration of the pins, it should not be too
> hard to make. So, would this approach work, or is there something else
> to consider which I as a software-only geek don't think of?

it doesn't have two sockets, but you might be able to adapt this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310114120680&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:US:12

it's been working well on mine for several weeks

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Re: tangogps 0.9.7 release

[Robin Paulson]

2009/9/22 Marcus Bauer :
> First of all thanks for the many positive emails I got over the last
> months, motivating me to bring a new release of tangoGPS to the coolest
> open hardware gadget on earth - the openmoko phone.

excellent work, marcus. looking forward to using it

is there a binary for openmoko?

shr devs, could you get the new version in the repos?

cheers

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Re: tangogps 0.9.7 release

[Robin Paulson]

2009/9/22 Alexander Lehner :
> I'm not sure whether the gpx import is part of tangogps by default.
> I once wrote a hacked version that did that.
>
> In fact it was not a real XML parser, but only a stupid lookup of strings,
> so if it doesn't work any more, it would be easy to make that work again.

if anyone is interested in an xml parser, to convert gpx to tangogps
format, a friend and i wrote a xslt parser a few months back. see here
for more info:

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/TangoGPS#Importing_Tracks_into_tangoGPS

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Re: mplayer?

[Robin Paulson]

2009/9/17 David Garabana Barro :
> So have ext2/3 with the upcoming btrfs [1]. ext2/3 were good on 90's, but they
> are absolutely outdated, slow and featureless. For example, Tail packing and
> good small file performance is a must with OSM tiles. You don't have any of
> two with ext2/3...
> Another good alternative would be JFS (although I don't know how it performs
> with many small files), but there is not jfs module on om kernel.

i wouldn't say featureless, exactly

anyway, how would i go about changing to something more modern? say
ext4 or btrfs?

is possible without a format/reinstall?

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Re: mplayer?

[Robin Paulson]

2009/9/17 c_c :
>  Well, it's great to hear your music is being played fine. I'm still trying 
> to find a solution to your song scanning issue on reiserfs. Just that I've 
> been a little short of time of late having spent a lot of time on upgrading 
> launcher's inbuilt sms, contacts and phonelog apps.
>  Have you tried the new launcher?

no, i don't use resiser, i've always been on ext2/3 for my neo. the
former doesn't have a good future, unfortunately

the song scanning is ok. it wasn't failing/crashing, just taking a
*very* long time. some files it would import in 1 second or less. some
would take several minutes

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Re: mplayer?

[Robin Paulson]

2009/9/17 c_c :
>  Can you try playing the songs from the terminal to see if mplayer crashes
> or gives some error? I do need to make intone more immune to mplayer crashes
> and errors - and iron out bugs if intone is causing the problems. Are you
> using the latest version of intone?
>
>  I use this mplayer version from paultt. [1]

yes, i've got the latest intone

i did some more digging last night, and realised mplayer is in the shr
repos. i must have missed that. i installed their version, and
everything plays perfectly now. so i can listen to music again!

thanks for the suggestions, and for a great little app

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Re: [shr-u] Latest update failed and connectivity lost

[Robin Paulson]

2009/9/17 Christ van Willegen :
> I searched some mailing list archives, and this magic incantation let
> me connect to the network again (I had the same problems as you're
> having...)
>
> opkg install -force-reinstall libgsm0710mux0 libfsotransport0 \
>         libfsoframework0 libfsobasics0 fso-abyss fsousaged \
>        libgsm0710mux-config frameworkd frameworkd-config-shr \
>        libframeworkd-phonegui-efl0 \
>        shr-contacts shr-messages shr-dialer ophonekitd

that'll do it, although afaict it's only actually libfsotransport0
that's causing the problem - something uninstalls it during certain
upgrades. possibly a deps issue

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Re: For all ya BFS (brain fuck scheduler) lovers out there

[Robin Paulson]

2009/9/14 Paul Fertser :
> Read all the details at [1] and to try it on your devices, simply do:
>
> mkdir /debug
> mount -t debugfs none /debug
> echo NO_NEW_FAIR_SLEEPERS > /debug/sched_features

how often, if at all, will this get returned to the default value?

every reboot?

every upgrade of kernel?

of some module?

when i do a cat, it returns this:

NEW_FAIR_SLEEPERS NORMALIZED_SLEEPER WAKEUP_PREEMPT START_DEBIT
AFFINE_WAKEUPS CACHE_HOT_BUDDY SYNC_WAKEUPS NO_HRTICK NO_DOUBLE_TICK
ASYM_GRAN LB_BIAS LB_WAKEUP_UPDATE ASYM_EFF_LOAD NO_WAKEUP_OVERLAP
LAST_BUDDY

has it been overwritten already, by a reboot? it looks like it has

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mplayer?

[Robin Paulson]

hi all,
i've been having lots of problems with intone locking up when i play
mp3s - every one i have. i'm wondering if it's an mplayer issue

are there any alternative builds of mplayer i could try? the version
i'm using i got from here:

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Video_Player#Using_the_Glamo_XV_acceleration

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Re: Where can I buy miniUSB-m → USB-A-f adapters i n Canada?

[Robin Paulson]

2009/9/14 Brolin Empey :
> Bright idea ;), but I got the same product for even closer to nothing:
>
> 

jeez, less than a dollar...and post costs 2 and a half times as much

good score

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Re: Icon issue with SHR-unstable...

[Robin Paulson]

2009/9/15 John Dowd :
> I can run the Linphone app but on the neo main display the linphone icon is
> shown as the default (or unknown) icon of a blank page.
>
> The linphone app has a linphone.png file under /usr/share/pixmaps (I just
> copied it there) but after I rebooted, it's still the blank page showing.
>
> Where should the linphone icon file go and is a "png" format the correct
> format to use for SHR?

yes, png will work fine

which icon theme are you using? i've got the nEo theme installed in
shr-u, and it changes the root of the pixmaps dir to a different
location (dunno how, must be a conf file somwhere), so the location on
my machine becomes

/usr/share/icons/nEo/86x86/apps

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Re: [all] USB Device-Network-Mode Switcher

[Robin Paulson]

2009/9/15 Marcel :
> I recently had my Neo with me to visit some friends and always found it
> quite annoying to have to ssh into it, especially if they ran Windows®.
> So I built a little python script and a .desktop icon that can switch
> between network and device mode by just a touch. ;)
> You might (will) want to adjust mountpoints and the script path in
> the .desktop file. As always, this only works if you're running the OS
> from internal flash. And it might eat your cat, which would be sad. (Of
> course I don't expect it to do so.)
> I'm curious to hear if this makes someone happy. :)
>
> http://d-a300.selfip.net/files/devnetswitch.tar.gz
> (Feel free to host somewhere, the DynDNS-hostname isn't too reliable.)

please don't take this as criticism - it's great people work on stuff
like this, but i'm afraid this has already been implemented, in
shr-settings via a slide switch

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Re: Where can I buy miniUSB-m → USB-A-f adapters i n Canada?

[Robin Paulson]

2009/9/11 Brolin Empey :
> A few days ago, I was chatting with DocScrutinizer in #openmoko on FreeNode
> about using a USB → Ethernet adapter to connect my FreeRunner directly to my
> Ethernet LAN.  DocScrutinizer told me I need a miniUSB-m → USB-A-f adapter
> or a cable like this:

i bought a female to female adapter on my local auction site for about
$4 and use it with conventional usb cables; i'm sure ebay will have
something similar. hard to search for though, you might have to do a
lot of browsing through usb categories

also, if you're after a usb ethernet device, i got one from ledshoppe
for next to nothing

http://ledshoppe.com/Product/com/CA3005.htm

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Re: Dbus api for gta2 accelerometers

[Robin Paulson]

2009/9/12 Frederik Sdun :
> There is no DBus API for the accelerometers, because it throws up to 100
> signals a second. That's too much for poor little Freerunner and it was
> removed

at what point could the api handle the data? iirc, the data rate can
be set, so i'm guessing something more sensible would be usable?

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Re: Web site promoting open hardware?

[Robin Paulson]

2009/9/11 Stefan Monnier :
> While looking for new hardware, I noticed that all the open hardware
> I know, I discovered it by accident while reading some mailing-list.
>
> Is there a web site somewhere that kind of centralizes this info to try
> and make it easier for openness-conscious consumers to find
> appropriate hardware?  Of course, there are various notions of "open
> hardware", so there might be parts of the site for hardware-hackers, for
> example, but I'm more interested in a web-site for end-users.  Also it
> might include hardware that is not itself open source, but where the
> company states a clear commitment to Free Software principles.
>
> I.e. a site that links to things like Openmoko, Qi, AlwaysInnovating,
> maybe Lemote, OpenPandora, ...

this guy looks like he wants to do something around this idea, but he
also looks like he's not progressed too far. maybe he has ideas but
needs some motivation/help?

he talks of open hardware certification, whatever that is

http://openhardware.org/

decent domain name, no?

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Re: Evopedia 0.2.2

[Robin Paulson]

2009/8/31 Christian Reitwießner :
> Evopedia version 0.2.2 has been released. The major new feature is an
> interactive map of articles. Images for this map are automatically taken
> from downloaded map tiles of tangoGPS or from Openstreetmap.org if these
> cannot be found (and you are online). If you do not have any images and
> no internet connection, at least the articles are displayed at the right
> location (if the zoom level is high enough).
>
> Evopedia is an offline Wikipedia reader that can be viewed using any
> browser you like (midori is the default). You need to download a
> Wikipedia dump (apart from the software also available there) from
>
> http://www.reitwiessner.de/openmoko/evopedia.html
>
> The following dump languages are available at the moment:
> Dutch, French, German, Italian and Spanish. Polish is currently in the
> queue.

i see there's no english version available yet. understandable with
the size. can you tell me what has to be done to create the file? do
you have a script?

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Re: nEo theme issues

[Robin Paulson]

2009/9/9 pike :
> OK then, here I go -
>
> I installed the (brilliant) neo theme. One of the
> issues I had with it was that - I think - some windows
> use a black font on a black background - I'm not sure,
> all I see is black :-)
>
> This was so annoying that I tried to uninstall it using the
> directions here [1], but I never got it really removed;
> still lots of black screens with green hairlines. More annoying,
> some windows still show black text on a black background,
> amongst which the 'read sms' screen and a screen called
> 'notification' of which I'm not sure what spawns it
> - I cant read it :-)

yeah, i had this problem following the first opkg upgrade after i
installed the neo theme. it sounds like you've not got the one of the
theme packages installed - there's 6 of them

try this, it worked for me:

opkg -force-overwrite install \
http://www.opkg.org/packages/elementary-theme-neo_0.2_armv4t.ipk \
http://www.opkg.org/packages/e-wm-theme-neo_0.2_armv4t.ipk \
http://www.opkg.org/packages/etk-theme-neo_0.2_armv4t.ipk \
http://www.opkg.org/packages/libframeworkd-phonegui-efl-theme-neo_0.2_armv4t.ipk
\
http://www.opkg.org/packages/gtk-theme-neo_0.1_armv4t.ipk \
http://www.opkg.org/packages/gpe-theme-neo_0.1_armv4t.ipk

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Re: problems with intone

[Robin Paulson]

2009/9/3 c_c :
>  Well, that could be an issue with the song file. Can you fsck your
> filesystem containing the audio files.

right, done that. whoops, it had been mounted 414 times without a check

>  Yup. Thats another bug fixed - stopping the scan is a problem as of now.
> Will work on it later. Can you try the attached binary from the terminal? It
> will print out names of the files it is adding. Maybe that can give some
> clue as to why it hangs.
> Thanks
>
>  http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3566692/intone intone

it still hangs at the same track: i found which, but there doesn't
appear to be anything wrong with it - it plays fine on my desktop via
mplayer

an associated problem is when i play some files. i hit play, and the
system hangs. the only way to kill intone is by holding down the power
button. when i do this, after the x server has shutdown, there are
hundreds of lines of text streaming by, too fast to read

when i reboot, the same files will play just fine though

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Re: problems with intone

[Robin Paulson]

2009/9/2 c_c :
>  Ok. Thanks. That helped catch a bug. Can you try the attached binary and
> see if it works? Just scp it to /usr/bin.
>
>   Do post back.
> Thanks Again.

i did the scan again, it took ages (it always hangs at 46 tracks in 6
albums), so i tapped the close icon on the message box, and it
segfaulted. done this three times now, always identical

no error message on the console, other than segfault

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Re: [shr-u] stuck in the 'default' theme [solved]

[Robin Paulson]

2009/9/2 pike :
>> i think you can delete your /home/root/.e folder and everything will
>> reset to the original settings
>
> I managed to log in through wifi - boy am i
> glad i made a desktop icon for activating my home
> wifi :-) - and deleting ~/.e did it.

of course, you can always log in through ssh over usb

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Re: [shr-u] stuck in the 'default' theme

[Robin Paulson]

2009/9/2 pike :
> I accidentaly changed the illume theme from
> illume-shr to 'default'. you wouldnt think
> that could hurt so much :-D but
>
> since i dont have the topbar anymore, i
> can't get to the illume wrench to change it
> back. i'd do it through the terminal, but
> i have no keyboard - because that is in the
> topbar to. plus, i can't ssh into the machine
> at this point - probably something with
> /etc/default/dropbear, but I can't change
> that without a terminal (and a keyboard) too.
>
> s .. i'm stuck ? reflash it ?

i think you can delete your /home/root/.e folder and everything will
reset to the original settings

not sure why there's no topbar anymore, i'm sure both themes have it

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Re: [shr-u] the nEo theme boot screen

[Robin Paulson]

2009/9/1 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak :
> I'm shr-splash author.
>
> Illume has nothing to do with boot splash screen. Don't search for it
> in illume wrench.
>
> AFAIK there is no nEo theme for shr-splash. In SHR are available only
> simple, dontpanic, handy and niebiee. Qalee is also using shr-splash
> and they have their own theme. I don't know anything about other
> themes.

right, i must have my terminology wrong then. what's the thing called
that displays the nEo boot screen? the thing that has messages about
hamsters and formatting my sd card, and recalculating pi?

what does the 'startup' option in illume settings, control?

what does the 'Splash settings' in shr-settings/appearance, control?

if neither of the latter two controls the hamster/sd card/pi thing,
how do i control it? other than force-installing and overwriting
stuff?

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Re: [shr-u] the nEo theme boot screen

[Robin Paulson]

2009/9/1 Martin Jansa :
> More than boot screen, I would like to see it integrated better in shr..
> 1) bbfiles in shr/import
> 2) no-overwrite between standard libframeworkd-phonegui-efl-theme and
> libframeworkd-phonegui-efl-theme-neo, the same for etk-theme-shr and
> eth-theme-neo
>
> With every rebuild of standart shr themes, the files are overwritten on
> neo with upgrade and then I have to manually overwrite them again by
> installing -neo.opkgs. Or I would get inconsistent look.

yes! +10 for that

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problems with intone

[Robin Paulson]

i've been using intone on and off since version 0.3 something, but
since 0.66 (i think), it's got a nasty bug. whenever i try to add
songs to the db, it hangs after importing them, and leaves the 'adding
245 tracks and 13 albums' message pane up. sometimes it stops after
getting part way through the process, then crashes when i close the
'adding tracks...' message, and outputs this error message to the
console:

Xlib: unexpected async reply (sequence 0x58c)!
Xlib: sequence lost (0x1058c > 0x58e) in reply type 0x0!

i've tried deleting the intone_songs.db file in ~/.intone, but it still happens

i've tried reinstalling

intone can't be closed or killall'd, and i have to restart the
xserver, at which point the songs i've imported appear in the 'now
playing' screen

any suggestions?

oh, and how do i delete tracks from the 'now playing' screen?

after adding tracks and playing them, they stay there, and i can't
find the delete button

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[shr-u] the nEo theme boot screen

[Robin Paulson]

i installed the nEo theme a few days back and love it - so much
faster, more consistent, it's great

i'd like to use the nEo boot screen also, in place of the 'don't
panic' splash, but illume segfaults whenever i try to open the
'startup' option in the illume settings manager

any suggestions? i've seen the shr-settings module, but it's not
listed in there - there's only the 'don't panic' theme

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Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?

[Robin Paulson]

2009/9/1 Alex Teiche :
> Better idea?

yes: don't harass people

if they want to take part in the community, they'll join the list, see
the email and maybe answer the survey. if they aren't subscribed to
the list, it's probably cos they don't want to be an active member of
the community

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Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?

[Robin Paulson]

2009/9/1 Alex Teiche :
> A message on the front of the Wiki would be nice.

i use the wiki perhaps 2/3 times a week. i haven't been to the front
page in months

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Re: [SHR] Setting regional codes

[Robin Paulson]

2009/9/1 Tom Yates :
> that's great news.  are you in the UK?

NZ, but it shouldn't matter

> and if so, could you let me know a) your /etc/phone-utils.conf b) a couple

[local]
international_prefix = 00
national_prefix = 0
country_code = 64
area_code = 0


> of contacts from your address book (i don't want to know the numbers, just
> the first three or four digits so i can see what format you store them in)

+447752xx (uk mobile)
+64210xxx (nz mobile)
+64210xxx (nz mobile)
0210xx (nz mobile)
04 917  (nz landline)

> and c) confirmation that the numbers are resolved to contact names for
> incoming calls AND call log entries AND SMS messages?

incoming calls: i probably make/receive one call a month, if that, so
i can't help at the moment
call log: yes
messages: yes

> Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
>> International prefix is *never* +. Most probably (as in whole Europe)
>> you have to set it as 00.

i wouldn't be so sure on that. mine is 00, that's for nz. it varies by country

> ok, done.  i tried both, and it didn't help.
>
>> What is that area_code=1223? Try with area_code blanked.
>
> that's my local area code (comparable to "179" in the wiki article i sent
> you).

it's badly worded, it means the prefix to area codes (i.e. for vast
majority of countries, '0')

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Re: [SHR] Setting regional codes

[Robin Paulson]

2009/8/31 Tom Yates :
> secondly, does that not mean that a call from 01223456789 (in the UK)
> should match a contact listed as +441223456789, when the following
> settings apply?
>
> international_prefix=00
> national_prefix=0
> country_code=44
> area_code=1223
>
> if not, how about
> international_prefix=+
>
> have i just botched a setting, or am i completely misunderstanding this?

it works perfectly for me - i didn't put anything except a '0' in the
area code field though

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Re: SHR clock reset

[Robin Paulson]

2009/8/28 Michal Brzozowski :
> I'm having the following problem on SHR-u. The clock resets itself to 0:00
> Jan 1 2000 once in a while. Sometimes it's correct again. Any idea which
> program is doing this? Is it getting incorrect time from GSM?

i get this sometimes when shr breaks and i switch to om2009 till it gets fixed.

i'm not 100% why, but think it's due to not syncing the rtc and the
system clock. have you tried hwclock to see what's sync'd to what?

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Re: Mechanical Design of the Freerunner/gta02-core/gta03

[Robin Paulson]

2009/8/25 Ben Thompson :
> Perhaps it is best simply to have a sequential number which applies
> to any sort of document be it PCB layout, mechanical CAD drawing,
> etc. It is also necesarry to have some sort to revision number, which
> might be separate from the number on the drawing itself.
>
> So what I am saying is, do not do this :-
>
> Example PCB layout     -> PCB-LAYER1-12345-GTA02_core rev 3
> Example CAD drawing    -> DWG-MOULDING-12345-GTA02_core rev 3
>
> Instead do this :-
>
> Example PCB layout     -> 001 rev 3
> Example CAD drawing    -> 002 rev 3
>
> What does anyone else think?

depends on the number of drawings you have. having worked on projects
(admittedly slightly larger than the neo...) with hundreds of
drawings, it helps no end having your fire protection set labelled
differently to the aircon, and again labelled differently to the
sanitary systems and structural steel.

i'd imagine the same could apply to the pcb layout, case mouldings,
and whatever other component sets you wish to separate

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Re: Python email or direct GMail lib?

[Robin Paulson]

2009/8/25 Marcel :
> I'm writing a minimal gmail client for the Neo and found that libgmail
> has loads of dependencies when trying it on the Hardware (which wasn't
> successful until now because of these deps).
> Does someone of you know a (possibly easily *g*) usable direct gmail or
> general email library?

have a look at what this guy's done - he uses some libraries which
interface with various google services. no idea if he uses a special
gmail library or imap access (out of interest, why are you limiting
your app to reading mail through gmail's methods, instead of imap?)

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Knjrepository

hope it's helpful

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Re: [SHR-U] opkg upgrade results in no GSM again :(

[Robin Paulson]

2009/8/23 DRSp. :
> Same here. With an old frameworkd.conf (date 18.08.09) I've got GSM
> working again.

did you need to do anything other than copying the .conf file into the
correct place? i was having the same problems, so copied the file
across and rebooted, but no joy yet

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osm2go on the freerunner

[Robin Paulson]

hi all,
i've been trying out osm2go recently on the freerunner, for offline
editing. has anyone else had a go with it? there are ipk packages and
deps at the links below. problem is, i get a segfault whenever i try
to load a project. also, i'm getting the following python error on
start:

Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup()
without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged

http://comiles.eu/~natanael/projects/osm2go/
http://comiles.eu/~natanael/projects/goocanvas/

any suggestions?

cheers

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Re: One second Openmoko boot?

[Robin Paulson]

2009/8/20 Jon 'maddog' Hall :
> I have a friend of mine who's multi-user Linux system was recently up
> for thirty days before a power failure caused it to go down.
>
> I had a Digital Unix system on my desk up for an entire year without
> rebooting.
>
> We had cases of VAX/Ultrix systems up for over three years without a
> reboot.
>
> IMHO the only time you should have to cold reboot an operating system is
> when there is a change to a critical section of the kernel, or perhaps a
> hardware failure and with loadable kernel modules and loadable device
> drivers (to say nothing of user-mode device drivers), those sections and
> failures are relatively few.

i think this whole idea is fatelly flawed

i've never understood the fascination of linux users with keeping
systems up for days and months on end. sure, it's great for a server
hosting web sites, or in a corporate environment, but for a home
system? it comes across as nothing more than who's the most '1337',
which is really lame. add to that the power wasted and it's verging on
the pointless

as for phones, there are many reasons i turn mine off - not least
because there's no way i want to be contactable at night, and when i'm
doing other things where i don't want to be interrupted. it gets
turned on and off at least once a day. my phone exists to serve me,
not the other way around

do you realise the effects of the 'always-connected' lifestyle?
they're not good at all

/return rant over

anyway, the point i'm getting at is: a quick boot time, it doesn't
have to be one second, is definitely an advantage

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Re: PISI 0.4 released

[Robin Paulson]

2009/8/19 Michael Pilgermann :
> We used standard GTK Filedialog for this ... I am trying to think of any 
> solution (with no need to touch GTK code ;)) ...
>
> To be honest - I can't bring up any good ... for the mean time, you could 
> simply "hard code" the path of the vcf file in your config file 
> (/home/root/.pisi/conf: instead of @interactive@) ...

right, i can do that no problem. i wasn't actually sure what an
interactive vcf file was...now i realise interactive refers to the
method of using it, not the file itself. ah, the joys of the english
language and it's many ambiguities

>
> I don't even know, whether there are any efforts for fitting GTK on mobile 
> devices - anybody else here with some input??

i could only suggest re-writing it in e, but that's a huge amount of
work that probably justifiably, you're not keen to do

oh, excellent software by the way. cheers for the effort

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Re: PISI 0.4 released

[Robin Paulson]

2009/8/10 Michael Pilgermann :
> We just released PISI 0.4.

i did a sync a moment ago, from sim to interactive vcf file. it popped
up a dialogue ox asking for a file anme, but i couldn't read most of
it, because too much of it was off screen. could you modify this, so i
can figure out what's happening?

cheers

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open-source gsm

[Robin Paulson]

for the non-slashdot readers:

harald welte, a previous contributor here, has set up an open-source
gsm network at a hack fest in the netherlands. all legal

more details here:

http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/09/08/17/0014235/Open-Source-GSM-Network-At-Dutch-Hacker-Convention?art_pos=4

no mention i can see of whether the modem runs open firmware or not,
but we can live in hope

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Re: Convert Tangogps's poi.db JOSM suitable gpx files

[Robin Paulson]

2009/8/16 GNUtoo :
> I've made a python script that converts poi.db in gpx files...
> what should I do with it?

put it on the wiki, on the tangogps page?

package it up and put it on opkg.org?

you might want to check tangogps.org, i'm sure something similar
already exists. the writer might be interested in merging his script
and yours? or maybe hosting your script?

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Re: [SHR-U] Impressions and Problems

[Robin Paulson]

2009/8/15 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak :
> For libframeworkd-phonegui-efl users (default SHR): as said before,
> you have to edit /etc/phone-utils.conf to match your country. SHR
> Settings module for that is planned and should arrive soon.

bloody brilliant! i wish i'd known this earlier. now my messages app
understands all the phone numbers in contacts, regardless of prefix

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Re: latest update fsousaged crash!!

[Robin Paulson]

2009/8/12 c_c :
>  No. I've had to install shr-U on another partition on my sd-card and am
> using that. Waiting for the right version of the package to hit the
> repository for now

so, you installed an earlier version, which didn't have this bug? is
that correct?

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Re: Evopedia 0.2.1

[Robin Paulson]

2009/8/12 Christian Reitwießner :
> Sure, I have thought about that. But then the pages need to be rendered
> on the Freerunner. It would be great if we could have some small
> standalone Mediawiki renderer. I have had a look at mwlib [1], but it

have you tried the wikipedia offline client? the link i sent earlier
uses exactly that - it's small, lightweight and will run on
low-powered devices

http://users.softlab.ece.ntua.gr/~ttsiod/buildWikipediaOffline.html

see the note from sept 17, 2007

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Re: Evopedia 0.2.1

[Robin Paulson]

2009/8/12 Vincent MEURISSE :
> On Wednesday 12 August 2009 10:09:51 am Christian Reitwießner wrote:
>> So the bottom line is: I don't know if the size can be reduced
>> significantly. For Evopedia 2.0 I do the dumps myself (mainly because
>> those on static.wikipedia.org are more than a year old), but it takes
>> really long
> Why not use dump DB from  ?
> The last dump for  English version is 5GB but you will probably need to add an
> index to have the file usable.

there's also this, which takes an xml dump as produced by wikipedia
every two months or so, processes it in a few hours to produce an
index, and will run anywhere that has php, perl and a couple of other
generic utilities

http://users.softlab.ece.ntua.gr/~ttsiod/buildWikipediaOffline.html

i had it on my laptop a while back, it was very usable. no images though

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Re: latest update fsousaged crash!!

[Robin Paulson]

2009/8/11 Linus Gasser :
>> ** (process:1812): CRITICAL **: fso_framework_logger_createFromKeyFile:
>> assertion `domain != NULL' failed
>> Segmentation fault
>>
>>   What can I do? Help!!
>
> Do what I did - re-install on the second partition and copy /home/root
> over to it...

do you know what causes this? it'd be nice to get it sorted without
having to reinstall

thanks

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Re: [shr-u] wifi timeout with mokonnect

[Robin Paulson]

2009/8/11 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra :
> To me it has never worked, but never means in images 20090721 and 20090808 of 
> shr-u
>
> It doesn't even bother to set the SSID, but I don't know who's really at 
> fault here,
> mokonnect or connman.
>
> Anyway, connman is a real piece of crap (but NetworkManager is just marginally
> lesser crap) sprout from people with NIH sindrome who don't understand NM.

does wifi work yet with newer kernels? i heard some time back that .29
had issues. i don't think i've ever got wifi to work

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Re: PISI 0.4 released

[Robin Paulson]

2009/8/10 Michael Pilgermann :
> Supported Contacts data sources:
> - SIM via DBUS (e.g. SHR)
> - QTopia address book (e.g. OM 2008.12)
> - LDAP (read only)
> - VCF files (local / webdav)
> - Google contacts
> - OPIMD
>
> Supported Calendar data sources:
> - Google calendars
> - ICalendar files (local / webdav)
>
> Get your copy here:
> http://www.opkg.org/package_191.html

excellent, been waiting for some updates.

i get this on installing from opkg.org:

 * Package python-vobject md5sum mismatch. Either the opkg or the
package index are corrupt. Try 'opkg update'.
 * Package python-gdata md5sum mismatch. Either the opkg or the
package index are corrupt. Try 'opkg update'.
 * Package python-ldap md5sum mismatch. Either the opkg or the package
index are corrupt. Try 'opkg update'.
 * Package python-dateutil md5sum mismatch. Either the opkg or the
package index are corrupt. Try 'opkg update'.
 * Package python-dateutil md5sum mismatch. Either the opkg or the
package index are corrupt. Try 'opkg update'.

this is on shr-unstable, all updates applied, as of 2009/08/10

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[shr-u] update oddities

[Robin Paulson]

i ran opkg upgrade tonight, and got a huge number of errors,
concerning files that opkg wanted to delete:

* Warning: remove
/usr/share/icons/shr/86x86/apps/htop.png|f3bf8110b7c66985c0e9511518eb0451
failed: No such file or directory
 * Warning: remove
/usr/share/icons/shr/86x86/apps/gpe-sketchbook.png|6a5a7da437cc6bf601f23a0205aeeb8d
failed: No such file or directory
 * Warning: remove
/usr/share/icons/shr/86x86/apps/gpe-scap.png|04b94cdcdf0490559d238fcb963900fa
failed: No such file or directory
 * Warning: remove
/usr/share/icons/shr/86x86/apps/openmoko-messages.png|b27a3e8bced6fd3b8c7836e0e8921e91
failed: No such file or directory
 * Warning: remove
/usr/lib/libfso-glib.so|83b0827d697d3502f4cffbbae598e51a failed: No
such file or directory
 * Warning: remove
/usr/share/vala/vapi/fso-glib-1.0.vapi|b62e0c6fa3cc6a99a88f9e0f74f804d8
failed: No such file or directory
 * Warning: remove
/usr/lib/pkgconfig/fso-glib-1.0.pc|1a1e023fe3ad97561e6d30d337a89143
failed: No such file or directory
 * Warning: remove
/usr/share/vala/vapi/fso-glib-1.0.deps|d607d95150c6a0a52126e84a8b0e3c5c
failed: No such file or directory

and (slightly worryingly, looks like a load of python stuff has
issues, although the files listed are still on the system):

* Warning: remove
/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/cxnet/netlink/generic.pyo|8741d83c8f953579d21d920d78404a0f
failed: No such file or directory
 * Warning: remove
/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/subsystems/ogpsd/ubx.pyo|68e03ea1331fed87fe642b8b532d9224
failed: No such file or directory
 * Warning: remove
/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/subsystems/opreferencesd/schema.pyo|ccfed8532319e9f5be5a1b4b621e3e00
failed: No such file or directory
 * Warning: remove
/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/subsystems/odeviced/idlenotifier.py|33b3cf5a36061e5eb24115953aded764
failed: No such file or directory
 * Warning: remove
/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/cxutil/ip.py|42943857b35986ace4b25036bb48573e
failed: No such file or directory
 * Warning: remove
/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/ti_calypso/mediator.pyo|796c09d1431125cc29f97c7cb3a2ff54
failed: No such file or directory
 * Warning: remove
/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/cxnet/__init__.pyo|3835845944aa95b483b557b0f9b7eedd
failed: No such file or directory
 * Warning: remove
/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/gsm/channel.py|6f3a52d21a5598fbdde7439dd868147f
failed: No such file or directory
 * Warning: remove
/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/qualcomm_msm/channel.py|568e9f718c4f6c92ec88dd7165266fcb
failed: No such file or directory
 * Warning: remove
/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/cxnet/netlink/rtnl.pyo|4be9c018f683c84d24f7ce3bddc196dd
failed: No such file or directory

this is only a snippet of them, there was more than 20 pages of
yakuake history with these in

i see each has a 32 character hex string after the filename, is this relevant?

oh, and one update failed, because an updated frameworkd-config-shr was missing

otherwise, all looks good. any ideas?

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Re: [Openwrt] how do I update it ?

[Robin Paulson]

2009/7/26  :
> Finally Openwrt seems to be doing the job a need, a working phone, a working
> messaging system and a working Xterm.
>
> I need to get the headset and the bluetooth working, which leads me to the
> question:
>
> How do I update Openwrt ?
> Is there a "dpkg" (or "opkg")
> What's the normal procedure to install new software on a Openwrt Freerunner?

no idea. have you tried running any probables? i.e. opkg, dpkg,
apt-get? or looking in /usr/bin /bin /sbin etc, to see what's there?
i'm sure there'll be no serious outcomes if you try to run them, and
they're not installed

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Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?

[Robin Paulson]

2009/7/26 Adam Jimerson :
> Only downsides to using ffalram for this first no reoccurring alarm support
> yet and second there is no way to add a note or any kind of message reminding
> you why the alarm is going off leaving the user having to remember why they
> set the alarm, don't know if this is by design or not implemented yet or what.

i think dates will do this

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Re: [openBmap] New cells visualisation interface on the website (beta)

[Robin Paulson]

2009/7/26 Onen :
>> hmm, that sounds slow and clumsy imo; i'd far rather have the tiles.
>> as the license is compatible, i might look at importing it myself. i
>> think there's a tag in osm, but i can always create one if there isn't
>>
>
> What do you mean by having the tiles? Instead of having the regular OSM
> tiles, and overlay the cells positions, you would have a directly
> rendered tile set with cells included?

yes. i'd like to see locations while i'm on the go, so i can see where
to collect more cell data. a custom rendered tile set/navit binary map
i believe would be the easiest way to achieve this


> For importing this info in OSM, please keep in mind, that this is *not*
> the position of the antenna.

yep, i realise that.

i'm not going to tear ahead and throw the data in. there's plenty of
thought on how to approach this

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Re: Tangogps (gtk+-fastscaling "ghost")

[Robin Paulson]

2009/7/26 Glenn Moeller-Holst :
> Is "gtk+-fastscaling" actually necessary?:

no, very obsolete. it's part of gtk now. you can use -force-depends
and ignore it

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Re: [openBmap] New cells visualisation interface on the website (beta)

[Robin Paulson]

2009/7/26 Alex (Maxious) Sadleir :
> On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Robin Paulson 
> wrote:
>>
>> is there any work to get this data into the osm database? i assume the
>> license is compatible? it would be great to get existing cells
>> rendered on an alternative tile set, cache them for viewing in
>> tangogps and see where the blank spots are, to know where needs
>> collecting.
>
> If we could get all the average points for a network/country/region as KML,
> it wouldn't be too hard to convert them into tangogps POIs (although then
> you'd have alot of POIs).

hmm, that sounds slow and clumsy imo; i'd far rather have the tiles.
as the license is compatible, i might look at importing it myself. i
think there's a tag in osm, but i can always create one if there isn't

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Re: [Openwrt] how to ssh OM?

[Robin Paulson]

2009/7/26 jumper dev :
> the problem is my router uses that address (192.168.1.1) ..
>

iirc there's info on the usb networking page of the wiki about
changing the address of either your router or freerunner. both are
fairly trivial

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Re: [openBmap] New cells visualisation interface on the website (beta)

[Robin Paulson]

2009/7/25 Onen :
> Nick did a very nice work about the visualisation interface of the cells
> on the website [1].
>
> You can now browse and zoom to an area, and see (depending on the level
> of zoom), LACs and cells.
>
> When you select one item, you can click on it to see the coverage of the
> item.
>
> This is still beta, as we encounter sometimes cells which does not
> appear, or disappear after zoom in or out. But it is *very* much better
> interface.

fantastic, good work

is there any work to get this data into the osm database? i assume the
license is compatible? it would be great to get existing cells
rendered on an alternative tile set, cache them for viewing in
tangogps and see where the blank spots are, to know where needs
collecting.

by the way, i'm curious, why there is only one provider listed for new
zealand? i assume only data for vodafone cells has been collected, and
no telecom or 2degrees/worldcom?

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