Re: Buy WikiReader [was: WikiReader]
In our geeky daily life we are able to access to Wikipedia anywhere (home, work, transport), on high-res full color devices (computer, phones...). Because hi-tech and Internet/Phone are everywhere. This device gives you : - offline access to Wikipedia - on a cheap device (it could be cheaper if the company were bigger I presume) - which uses AAA batteries, available anywhere in the world. We (US/EU/Jap) almost don't care about these 3 points, so I can understand the omg fuck**g useless I've already got a wikipedia apps on my iPhone, with images, colors and ponnies!. But (IMHO) this device represents a new way to distribute Wikipedia. Let's see the existing ones : - a computer + internet : you need electricity, phone, Internet, a computer (+ knowledge to use it) - a computer + dvd : the same but you have removed the phone/Internet dependency - a smartphone (with or without provider) + an ebook reader software : usually naked phone are a bit costly, but it could be cheaper than a computer. You will need specific batteries when yours will die. - a true ebook reader : ~= smartphone+software but easier to use I presume (I don't know if there is an existing ebook reader able to read Wikipedia but it seems a good solution) - a real book (still a good way, maybe a bit heavy because of Wikipedia size) The wikireader : - AAA batteries - 3 buttons, and supposedly easy to use - open soft and hard (I presume), sturdy Ok this is the english version of wikipedia and it is sold in US/EU/Jap (not the best market for it), but it's not *that* bad for a start : geeks make you earn a bit of cash, and could start tweaking the device... (ebook reader feature someone ?) Xavier Cremaschi. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buy WikiReader [was: WikiReader]
Xavier Cremaschi a écrit : Ok this is the english version of wikipedia and it is sold in US/EU/Jap (not the best market for it), but it's not *that* bad for a start : geeks make you earn a bit of cash, and could start tweaking the device... (ebook reader feature someone ?) Xavier Cremaschi. Source code is already available, and tweaking will actualy start when first devices will be shipped. French community already find that keyboard is bitmap and so some pictures should be displayed on device... It's a start, but such an interest for a product that nobody never touched, We can imagine what it can become. Moreover, it's the opensource philosophy that is spreading : A new open product will arrive on the market, and lots of *hackers* wonder how they can improve it, and what they can turn it in ! If it's not a big step for Openmoko, it's a great step for free humanity ! AstHrO ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buy WikiReader [was: WikiReader]
As read on slashdot : [...] at those kind of power usage levels, you could hack a small solar cell into it and it should work anywhere you've got sunlight. Imagine a complete breakdown of civilization as we know it. Books are heavy and inconvenient and make good kindling. Without electricity, compact digital forms of information retrieval become impossible. What do we use to rebuild civilization after a couple generations of this send us back to the dark ages? This thing. [...] :P ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buy WikiReader [was: WikiReader]
2009/10/15 Xavier Cremaschi omega.xav...@gmail.com: As read on slashdot : [...] at those kind of power usage levels, you could hack a small solar cell into it and it should work anywhere you've got sunlight. Imagine a complete breakdown of civilization as we know it. Books are heavy and inconvenient and make good kindling. Without electricity, compact digital forms of information retrieval become impossible. What do we use to rebuild civilization after a couple generations of this send us back to the dark ages? This thing. [...] :P LOL, other situation, you suddenly pass trough a ripping in the time-continuous and apear in the early middle ages...but luckily have your Solar hacked WikiReader with you... You can becoume the next Merlin the sorcerer!!! better don't appear in there at least in Spain or you will be burned as heretic before it boots. :P ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buy WikiReader [was: WikiReader]
As I see the wikireader becoming interested for different groups of funs. 1. Hitch hacker guide to the galaxy. DON'T PANIC 2. Fallout (pip-boy!) 3. Jeremiah (TV series) (exactly about situation from slashdot) Who can continue? :) ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buy WikiReader [was: WikiReader]
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Xavier Cremaschi omega.xav...@gmail.com wrote: As read on slashdot : [...] at those kind of power usage levels, you could hack a small solar cell into it and it should work anywhere you've got sunlight. Imagine a complete breakdown of civilization as we know it. Books are heavy and inconvenient and make good kindling. Without electricity, compact digital forms of information retrieval become impossible. What do we use to rebuild civilization after a couple generations of this send us back to the dark ages? This thing. [...] :P http://xkcd.com/208/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buy WikiReader [was: WikiReader]
2009/10/13 William Lai w...@openmoko.com: On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 5:17 AM, Maksim 'max_posedon' Melnikau maxpose...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, all! First of all, my congratulations with releasing mystical Project B ! Thank you all for the continuing support. We're really excited about today. Wikireader looks awesome, and I think most interested question for all openmoko community now is: How to buy WikiReader? Looks like amazon doesn't ship this device to all countries. (why?!). It all comes down to price. It's just too expensive for you (outside the US) and we didn't think it was worth the rush. Paying $85 USD for a $99 dollar device isn't exactly helpful. We're working on getting more devices and of course global shipping as well. We'll definitely post something once that is available. Stay tuned to hear from us within the next week. Could you explain your view about delivery, and country statuses, where you ship, and where not, and if not, when you will. Right now we ship to US and Canada only. Amazon didn't allow us to set independent shipping rates for various countries. It only offers a fixed rate for 'outside US' and 'Asia'. That would mean $85 to the UK and $85 to Mexico -- not fair. As for me, it is interesting how to deliver this device to Belarus) I'm just as interested at this point.. please stay tuned. Regards Will ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Hi all, OM has enabled the international shipping, it will take 10-20 days and there is no track number, I want a unit ASAP to test/review/hack myself and post about it and to be able to show it at conferences and any one who lives near and want to see it. Will has tell me to post the real time to delivere on the list and thats's what I will do :) I have place the order today 14th October at 8:00AM the total payment including shipping is 118.20 $ (spanish custom taxes pending). OM still has not a distributor policy but as soon they have it(and if we agree :P) I will buy a couple of Wikireaders to sell, stay tunned to know how long and how much David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buy WikiReader [was: WikiReader]
David Reyes Samblas Martinez a écrit : I have place the order today 14th October at 8:00AM the total payment including shipping is 118.20 $ (spanish custom taxes pending). Regarding eur-$ conversion rate these days it seems pretty cool ! FYI France doesn't put custom taxes on electronic devices so the big equation for me should be : [US price (HT) + shipping port + VAT (20.6%)] * 0.67 (^^) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buy WikiReader [was: WikiReader]
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 11:17 PM, Maksim 'max_posedon' Melnikau maxpose...@gmail.com wrote: and I think most interested question for all openmoko community now is: I think the most interested question is: What are they smoking? Seriously guys, any ebook reader is way more advanced then this WikiReader, and it is not suited for the job at all. It does not support colored images, or images at all. And reading the general feedback on the web (engadget, two other local sites), almost all of the commenters find this device a joke. I couldnt read *one* positive feedback from them. In plus, evopedia was not generating too much interests either. And I do think evopedia is much more advanced than this *dedicated* device. At least implement offline wiktionary.org, to be able to promote as a replacement for electronic dictionary devices. Sorry for my harsh comment, but my bad joke just came true: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Laszlo: I even found the first prototype;) http://www.rob-matthews.com/index.php?/project/wikipedia/ I truly hope, Im wrong here, and I wish you success! Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Buy WikiReader [was: WikiReader]
Hi, all! First of all, my congratulations with releasing mystical Project B ! Wikireader looks awesome, and I think most interested question for all openmoko community now is: How to buy WikiReader? Looks like amazon doesn't ship this device to all countries. (why?!). Could you explain your view about delivery, and country statuses, where you ship, and where not, and if not, when you will. As for me, it is interesting how to deliver this device to Belarus) Thanks Maksim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buy WikiReader [was: WikiReader]
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 5:17 AM, Maksim 'max_posedon' Melnikau maxpose...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, all! First of all, my congratulations with releasing mystical Project B ! Thank you all for the continuing support. We're really excited about today. Wikireader looks awesome, and I think most interested question for all openmoko community now is: How to buy WikiReader? Looks like amazon doesn't ship this device to all countries. (why?!). It all comes down to price. It's just too expensive for you (outside the US) and we didn't think it was worth the rush. Paying $85 USD for a $99 dollar device isn't exactly helpful. We're working on getting more devices and of course global shipping as well. We'll definitely post something once that is available. Stay tuned to hear from us within the next week. Could you explain your view about delivery, and country statuses, where you ship, and where not, and if not, when you will. Right now we ship to US and Canada only. Amazon didn't allow us to set independent shipping rates for various countries. It only offers a fixed rate for 'outside US' and 'Asia'. That would mean $85 to the UK and $85 to Mexico -- not fair. As for me, it is interesting how to deliver this device to Belarus) I'm just as interested at this point.. please stay tuned. Regards Will ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buy WikiReader [was: WikiReader]
All, I spent the whole morning trying to get international fixed-rates from USPS for global shipping, but there is a downside, as there always is: a) standard shipments can take 10-20 days b) there are NO tracking numbers provided by USPS The flat rate is $18.95 usd. I think this is especially reasonable compared to some of the prices in UPS (those of you who bought phones from us in the beginning know exactly what I'm talking about). These rates are available now and Sean tells me we just updated the site so: http://thewikireader.com/store Help yourself :) And when you DO buy one, please make sure to post back to this list the actual time it took you to get your package. That would help everyone out a lot on actual shipping times. Again, thanks for not being patient and kicking our butts when something's missing. Cheers, Will On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 5:33 AM, William Lai w...@openmoko.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 5:17 AM, Maksim 'max_posedon' Melnikau maxpose...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, all! First of all, my congratulations with releasing mystical Project B ! Thank you all for the continuing support. We're really excited about today. Wikireader looks awesome, and I think most interested question for all openmoko community now is: How to buy WikiReader? Looks like amazon doesn't ship this device to all countries. (why?!). It all comes down to price. It's just too expensive for you (outside the US) and we didn't think it was worth the rush. Paying $85 USD for a $99 dollar device isn't exactly helpful. We're working on getting more devices and of course global shipping as well. We'll definitely post something once that is available. Stay tuned to hear from us within the next week. Could you explain your view about delivery, and country statuses, where you ship, and where not, and if not, when you will. Right now we ship to US and Canada only. Amazon didn't allow us to set independent shipping rates for various countries. It only offers a fixed rate for 'outside US' and 'Asia'. That would mean $85 to the UK and $85 to Mexico -- not fair. As for me, it is interesting how to deliver this device to Belarus) I'm just as interested at this point.. please stay tuned. Regards Will ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
