Re: Wikireader development - Ideas and improvements

2010-10-12 Thread Christopher Hall
Hello Patrick,

On Sat, 09 Oct 2010 14:31:54 +0200
Patrick Beck pb...@yourse.de wrote:

 Hi Sean,
 
 Am Montag, den 04.10.2010, 16:34 +0800 schrieb Sean Moss-Pultz:
  Just about everything is done in Python that has to do with parsing.
  So you should be fine. If you are interested in developing, get our
  codes from github, let us know when you have something good, and
  we'd love to pull it back into future releases.
  
  Feel free to email us if you have any questions!
 
 I have looked into the code a bit and have a few starting problems.
 Perhaps you can write a small howto about generating the files for the
 wikireader:
 
 - Which base files use the wikireader for converting = XML Datadump?
 - How works the converting process where i have to store the data?
 - Is it possible to use only one file for converting?
   * so it's possible to generate own content - not a wiki.
Yes you can generate content from a single file and there are a couple
of samples to test the process in xml-sample-files.

I added a wiki page:
http://github.com/wikireader/wikireader/wiki/Building-an-image
to give a brief overview of converting one of these files.
Please let me know if this is any help.

 
 For me it would be very helpful so i can concentrate on the parser and
 can test it directly.
 
 Perhaps you can describe the process to convert Wikipedia XY into the
 wiki.dat format and describe how own content can be integrated. From
 the git checkout to a working wikipedia XY.
 
 with kind regards
 
 Patrick
 
 


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Re: Wikireader development - Ideas and improvements

2010-10-09 Thread Patrick Beck
Hi Sean,

Am Montag, den 04.10.2010, 16:34 +0800 schrieb Sean Moss-Pultz:
 Just about everything is done in Python that has to do with parsing.
 So you should be fine. If you are interested in developing, get our
 codes from github, let us know when you have something good, and we'd
 love to pull it back into future releases.
 
 Feel free to email us if you have any questions!

I have looked into the code a bit and have a few starting problems.
Perhaps you can write a small howto about generating the files for the
wikireader:

- Which base files use the wikireader for converting = XML Datadump?
- How works the converting process where i have to store the data?
- Is it possible to use only one file for converting?
* so it's possible to generate own content - not a wiki.

For me it would be very helpful so i can concentrate on the parser and
can test it directly.

Perhaps you can describe the process to convert Wikipedia XY into the
wiki.dat format and describe how own content can be integrated. From the
git checkout to a working wikipedia XY.

with kind regards

Patrick




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Re: Wikireader development - Ideas and improvements

2010-10-04 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Christoph Pulster openm...@pulster.de wrote:

  Openmoko has not stopped the development of the Wikireader

 Sean, can you confirm this ?

Hi Christoph

We're still super active developing WikiReader. You can view our
latest commits here:

  http://github.com/wikireader

Over the past few months we've been working on many new language
variants. Chinese, Japanese, Korean, all have working virtual keypads
now. We also have a download tool under development for Windows and OS
X for people who want to use an easy interface to update their
WikiReader. This will be pushed to github with a formal release later
this  month.

Overall we're quite happy with our progress on the technical side as
well as the sales side.

But we definitely would love to see more community involvement.

I'm going to reply in detail to Patrick's email shortly. I just got
back in the office. It's been a busy last few weeks for us.

Sean

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Re: Wikireader development - Ideas and improvements

2010-10-04 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
Hi Patrick

On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Patrick Beck pb...@yourse.de wrote:

 i own a Wikireader since a month now and i am happy with the base
 functionality, but i have a few ideas and improvements and i am looking
 for other users they owns a wikireader (and develeops for it).

 Openmoko has not stopped the development of the Wikireader, but i think
 it can be useful to have a nice community around the project. Till now i
 have only found the following ressources:

 http://thewikireader.com/
 http://dev.thewikireader.com/
 http://github.com/wikireader/wikireader

 and see not a list or any other communication - i think the community
 list is not so wrong :)

Yes currently these are the only places... if something is missing let
me know. And I see what we can do.

 ==Improvements:==

 - http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutschland - There is a small block on
 the right with information (population, language, capital, etc.) I think
 that a very useful imformation - how can we add them to the Wikireader?

Most of these are templates and within these templates there's HTML
tables. Currently we remove all tables since we haven't found an
elegant solution to displaying tables on our screen (it's only 240
pixels wide). You can look at:

  
http://github.com/wikireader/wikireader/blob/master/host-tools/offline-renderer/ArticleRenderer.py

And see where we parse out tables. If you have some ideas how to
handle this better, we'd love to hear.

 - Table of Contents would be helpful to get a overview about the content
 of the whole article

On our todo list... but it's still a while away. We're really just
trying to get the base language support really solid.

 - searching in a article could be very usefull

Agreed!

 - The scrolling it a bit poor, because you can't read anything on the
 screen when you scroll - on the community list was a small patch
 discussed:

 http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-December/058462.html

 That patch works no more, but from the descriptions i find it very
 useful. A new version from maleadt was published in September:

 http://github.com/maleadt/wikireader/downloads

 It's unstable and not as inuitive as the first path but it is a start
 for a nice usability on the wikireader.

 ==Problems:==

 - A other problem is that tables and other special layouts are not
 interpreted from the parser. See for example:

 http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_Kfz-Kennzeichen_in_Deutschland

 On the Wikireader you get only a list from 0-9 and A-Z without any
 license plates.

Yes. (see above explanation)

 So how can we fix the problems and get new features in? I am only a
 python programmer but i hope i can help. This Thread should be a
 starting point to discuss new features and collect bugs - i think that
 should help Openmoko, too.

Just about everything is done in Python that has to do with parsing.
So you should be fine. If you are interested in developing, get our
codes from github, let us know when you have something good, and we'd
love to pull it back into future releases.

Feel free to email us if you have any questions!

Sean

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Wikireader development - Ideas and improvements

2010-10-02 Thread Patrick Beck
Hello,

i own a Wikireader since a month now and i am happy with the base
functionality, but i have a few ideas and improvements and i am looking
for other users they owns a wikireader (and develeops for it).

Openmoko has not stopped the development of the Wikireader, but i think
it can be useful to have a nice community around the project. Till now i
have only found the following ressources:

http://thewikireader.com/
http://dev.thewikireader.com/
http://github.com/wikireader/wikireader

and see not a list or any other communication - i think the community
list is not so wrong :)

==Improvements:==

- http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutschland - There is a small block on
the right with information (population, language, capital, etc.) I think
that a very useful imformation - how can we add them to the Wikireader?

- Table of Contents would be helpful to get a overview about the content
of the whole article

- searching in a article could be very usefull

- The scrolling it a bit poor, because you can't read anything on the
screen when you scroll - on the community list was a small patch
discussed: 

http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-December/058462.html

That patch works no more, but from the descriptions i find it very
useful. A new version from maleadt was published in September:

http://github.com/maleadt/wikireader/downloads

It's unstable and not as inuitive as the first path but it is a start
for a nice usability on the wikireader.

==Problems:==

- A other problem is that tables and other special layouts are not
interpreted from the parser. See for example:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_Kfz-Kennzeichen_in_Deutschland

On the Wikireader you get only a list from 0-9 and A-Z without any
license plates.

So how can we fix the problems and get new features in? I am only a
python programmer but i hope i can help. This Thread should be a
starting point to discuss new features and collect bugs - i think that
should help Openmoko, too.

with kind regards

Patrick




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