bye bye 2008.8, you wont be missed :(

2008-08-10 Thread William Kenworthy
I am afraid I am going to have to delete 2008.8 and forget it ever
existed.  Despite very little of it working, I was giving it a go but I
just had a bug I raised on the keyboard closed with works for me
saying in effect they are only willing to work on the existing keyboard
and its working as designed, so there isnt a problem and no changes/new
keyboard alternatives are needed.  Basicly learn to use it as is, as
this is all we are getting with 2008.8

As 2008.8 looks like it was an interim release until FSO is ready,
developers for the FR might like to look at the reasons this bug (#1778)
was closed and then consider bringing the FSO to a usable state faster.
It already has more functionality than 2008.8 as released.  To me its
looking like 2008.8 is still born and wont be going anywhere fast, by
the intention of the designers.

disappointed :(
BillK


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Re: bye bye 2008.8, you wont be missed :(

2008-08-10 Thread Peter Mogensen
William Kenworthy wrote:
 I am afraid I am going to have to delete 2008.8 and forget it ever
 existed.  Despite very little of it working, I was giving it a go but I
 just had a bug I raised on the keyboard closed with works for me
 saying in effect they are only willing to work on the existing keyboard
 and its working as designed, so there isnt a problem and no changes/new
 keyboard alternatives are needed.

Well, that was not exactly what was said, but I understand your 
disappointment.
And I'm desperately trying not to draw the same conclusions.

The keyboard works for me (technically), but it's FAR FROM living up to 
my expectations. It's nice - but only for certain applications and for 
some it really sucks.

/Peter


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Re: bye bye 2008.8, you wont be missed :(

2008-08-10 Thread Geoff Ruscoe
I agree that the keyboard is a big disappointment.  After learning a few
undocumented tricks (right to left for back space, and the left to right for
accept word) it is a little better, but... if it weren't for the mailing
list I still wouldn't know how to type anything but [A-Z]*...  One of the
flip down keyboard options (not sure what to call this) should definitely be
the full qwerty keyboard (a.k.a. matchbox keyboard?).  But to be fair the
suspend resume is working great for phone and messages.  Battery life is
much improved.  After a little tweaking I got tangogps installed and so I
now have most of the base features I wanted going.  So I'm actually really
really really happy with this release and would like to say thanks to the
openmoko team for doing such a great job.  Just want to say to everone that
was involved in all of the keyboard decision making that was so painful to
read about on this list:  I think you guys had some good ideas but were way
too inflexible and this hurt the end product.  Please try to be more
flexible in the future.  But thanks for all the hard work!  I can't wait to
get developing for this little monster!




On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 7:31 AM, Peter Mogensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 William Kenworthy wrote:
  I am afraid I am going to have to delete 2008.8 and forget it ever
  existed.  Despite very little of it working, I was giving it a go but I
  just had a bug I raised on the keyboard closed with works for me
  saying in effect they are only willing to work on the existing keyboard
  and its working as designed, so there isnt a problem and no changes/new
  keyboard alternatives are needed.

 Well, that was not exactly what was said, but I understand your
 disappointment.
 And I'm desperately trying not to draw the same conclusions.

 The keyboard works for me (technically), but it's FAR FROM living up to
 my expectations. It's nice - but only for certain applications and for
 some it really sucks.

 /Peter


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