[CommunityEngine] Re: Why should I still start today with CommunityEngine ?
FYI: http://github.com/bborn/communityengine/tree/rails_2.3 On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 5:56 PM, matthi matthi...@gmail.com wrote: Tom, I am green again, as I have been off from Rails a couple of months and it changes a lot over 1 year or so. What I have heard is right that, that a part of the enginesplugin is now in the core of Rails menawhile some cornerconcepts are not and never will, that is e.g. the possibility to simply overwrite functions etc and as far as I have seen this was one of the benefits of customizing CE, that you just can overwrite code in your own models/ controllers etc what would not be possible with Rails 2.3 Now, if the enginesplugin would still work, that might be stil possible, even if I have a strange feeling about using still the engines plugin if the main part is in the core maybe I am also totaly wrong, who knows, I have just spent a couple of hours for my resaerch and meanwhile tested them all out, in a fast way, that is CE, Tog, Inioshi and luvdbyless...guess I am not missing any here ? :) So for now I go with Tog I think also for the simple fact I have no clue about HAML and no time nor fun to get into this right now Anyway, looks like a promising project and who knowsi´ll give it a retry as soon as I have some time to play On Apr 15, 11:35 pm, Tom Bostelmann tbostelm...@gmail.com wrote: Matthi, When you pull down a git version from Github just make sure you take the 'edge' branch. Otherwise it's essentially the same installation instructions. Admittedly, I'm not using all of CE's functionality so there may be some issues in other areas. Bruno obviously has the best sense for the 'edge' stability but, from what I've heard, 2.3 could be seen as a version of Rails that actually makes the engine code easier to work with (others should correct me if I'm wrong as I'm still somewhat green with Rails). Tom On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 2:03 PM, matthi matthi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Tom, that sounds great, probably I did not had the latest edge. Are there some special instructions to make that running or was it just taking care about some depreciations and that´s it ? Maybe I´ll relook CE then, thx for that info, as searching in this comunity and also in the WorldWildWeb it looked like right now it wouldnt work that easy Regards --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CommunityEngine group. To post to this group, send email to communityengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to communityengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/communityengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[CommunityEngine] Re: Why should I still start today with CommunityEngine ?
Hi Bruno, thx for the update and info, i´ll look into it Regards On Apr 17, 3:40 pm, Bruno Bornsztein bruno.bornszt...@gmail.com wrote: FYI:http://github.com/bborn/communityengine/tree/rails_2.3 On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 5:56 PM, matthi matthi...@gmail.com wrote: Tom, I am green again, as I have been off from Rails a couple of months and it changes a lot over 1 year or so. What I have heard is right that, that a part of the enginesplugin is now in the core of Rails menawhile some cornerconcepts are not and never will, that is e.g. the possibility to simply overwrite functions etc and as far as I have seen this was one of the benefits of customizing CE, that you just can overwrite code in your own models/ controllers etc what would not be possible with Rails 2.3 Now, if the enginesplugin would still work, that might be stil possible, even if I have a strange feeling about using still the engines plugin if the main part is in the core maybe I am also totaly wrong, who knows, I have just spent a couple of hours for my resaerch and meanwhile tested them all out, in a fast way, that is CE, Tog, Inioshi and luvdbyless...guess I am not missing any here ? :) So for now I go with Tog I think also for the simple fact I have no clue about HAML and no time nor fun to get into this right now Anyway, looks like a promising project and who knowsi´ll give it a retry as soon as I have some time to play On Apr 15, 11:35 pm, Tom Bostelmann tbostelm...@gmail.com wrote: Matthi, When you pull down a git version from Github just make sure you take the 'edge' branch. Otherwise it's essentially the same installation instructions. Admittedly, I'm not using all of CE's functionality so there may be some issues in other areas. Bruno obviously has the best sense for the 'edge' stability but, from what I've heard, 2.3 could be seen as a version of Rails that actually makes the engine code easier to work with (others should correct me if I'm wrong as I'm still somewhat green with Rails). Tom On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 2:03 PM, matthi matthi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Tom, that sounds great, probably I did not had the latest edge. Are there some special instructions to make that running or was it just taking care about some depreciations and that´s it ? Maybe I´ll relook CE then, thx for that info, as searching in this comunity and also in the WorldWildWeb it looked like right now it wouldnt work that easy Regards --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CommunityEngine group. To post to this group, send email to communityengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to communityengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/communityengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[CommunityEngine] Re: Why should I still start today with CommunityEngine ?
as it turns out that the engines concept from rails 2.3.x is totally different then needed by communityEngine and will never be a fit for CE if not CE itself change a lot. What? The Engines plugin still works in 2.3, so it's a non-issue. So my question is: why should I still start using CE today and sticking to some outdated railsversion which could be a problem sooner or later with some other code, not to mention you will lose all the nice features the new rails relalease comes with This is incorrect. Just because we haven't released a 2.3 compatible version YET, doesn't mean we never will. The next version release of CE will be Rails 2.3 compatible. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CommunityEngine group. To post to this group, send email to communityengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to communityengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/communityengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[CommunityEngine] Re: Why should I still start today with CommunityEngine ?
Hi Bruno, thx for the answer, I had stopped working with Rails for a long while now and was not aware of all the changes to 2.3 etc and also had no experience with the enginesplugin but in my fast and short freshup I understood that a big part of the enginesplugin made its way in the railscore meanwhile some concepts did not and again in my understanding after fast review I thought that way some cornerconcepts of CE will stop working under rails 2.3 and need a bigger refactoring, what can allways be done for sure, no doubt, and I have not thought that the enginesplugin will still work in 2.3 as I thought it would be obsolete now So I never had doubts someday you or someone else will make it 2.3 ready, but that was the way the question was meant: why should I start today...if for a fresh new project you have to go with outdated code...rails first of all etc. So for now I will try TOG for my little project as it also fits my needs and will keep an eye on future versions of CE. No doubt you have done some nice work here and my testinstallation (even on win) worked like a charm. So I honestly appreciate your work and the sharing with the community Best regards matthi On Apr 15, 2:59 pm, Bruno Bornsztein bruno.bornszt...@gmail.com wrote: as it turns out that the engines concept from rails 2.3.x is totally different then needed by communityEngine and will never be a fit for CE if not CE itself change a lot. What? The Engines plugin still works in 2.3, so it's a non-issue. So my question is: why should I still start using CE today and sticking to some outdated railsversion which could be a problem sooner or later with some other code, not to mention you will lose all the nice features the new rails relalease comes with This is incorrect. Just because we haven't released a 2.3 compatible version YET, doesn't mean we never will. The next version release of CE will be Rails 2.3 compatible. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CommunityEngine group. To post to this group, send email to communityengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to communityengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/communityengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[CommunityEngine] Re: Why should I still start today with CommunityEngine ?
I'm using edge CE with rails 2.3 and its working great, so far. The code feels much improved with 2.3 - nice work! On 4/15/09, matthi matthi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bruno, thx for the answer, I had stopped working with Rails for a long while now and was not aware of all the changes to 2.3 etc and also had no experience with the enginesplugin but in my fast and short freshup I understood that a big part of the enginesplugin made its way in the railscore meanwhile some concepts did not and again in my understanding after fast review I thought that way some cornerconcepts of CE will stop working under rails 2.3 and need a bigger refactoring, what can allways be done for sure, no doubt, and I have not thought that the enginesplugin will still work in 2.3 as I thought it would be obsolete now So I never had doubts someday you or someone else will make it 2.3 ready, but that was the way the question was meant: why should I start today...if for a fresh new project you have to go with outdated code...rails first of all etc. So for now I will try TOG for my little project as it also fits my needs and will keep an eye on future versions of CE. No doubt you have done some nice work here and my testinstallation (even on win) worked like a charm. So I honestly appreciate your work and the sharing with the community Best regards matthi On Apr 15, 2:59 pm, Bruno Bornsztein bruno.bornszt...@gmail.com wrote: as it turns out that the engines concept from rails 2.3.x is totally different then needed by communityEngine and will never be a fit for CE if not CE itself change a lot. What? The Engines plugin still works in 2.3, so it's a non-issue. So my question is: why should I still start using CE today and sticking to some outdated railsversion which could be a problem sooner or later with some other code, not to mention you will lose all the nice features the new rails relalease comes with This is incorrect. Just because we haven't released a 2.3 compatible version YET, doesn't mean we never will. The next version release of CE will be Rails 2.3 compatible. -- Sent from my mobile device --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CommunityEngine group. To post to this group, send email to communityengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to communityengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/communityengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[CommunityEngine] Re: Why should I still start today with CommunityEngine ?
Matthi, When you pull down a git version from Github just make sure you take the 'edge' branch. Otherwise it's essentially the same installation instructions. Admittedly, I'm not using all of CE's functionality so there may be some issues in other areas. Bruno obviously has the best sense for the 'edge' stability but, from what I've heard, 2.3 could be seen as a version of Rails that actually makes the engine code easier to work with (others should correct me if I'm wrong as I'm still somewhat green with Rails). Tom On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 2:03 PM, matthi matthi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Tom, that sounds great, probably I did not had the latest edge. Are there some special instructions to make that running or was it just taking care about some depreciations and that´s it ? Maybe I´ll relook CE then, thx for that info, as searching in this comunity and also in the WorldWildWeb it looked like right now it wouldnt work that easy Regards --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CommunityEngine group. To post to this group, send email to communityengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to communityengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/communityengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
