Vintage Macs list on Google Groups
Members of the Compact Macs, Quadlist, and Vintage Macs list on Maclaunch, This is the final message posted to these lists. These lists have been replaced by a unified Vintage Macs list on Google Groups that covers all 680x0-based Macs. The Vintage Macs list FAQ has been updated to reflect the two ways you should be able to join the new list on Google Groups if you haven't already done so. There is an email subscription method, but it has very limited options. The best way to join the group is online, and this allows you to choose digest mode and also browse postings online. There may be problems with some browsers, but most vintage Mac users also have access to newer computers, so that shouldn't be a problem. If you absolutely can't get subscribed, please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] to let me know that you wish to join the Vintage Macs list on Google Groups. Be sure to include your preferred email address and subscription mode (messages, digest, summary, or no email). We already have 258 of you on the new list. I'm hoping to see more of you there soon. Dan the listmom -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Moving to Google Groups
After reading discussion over the weekend, let me clarify a few things. Google Groups functions as an email group, so the format of posting and receiving messages can be exactly the same as you're used to. In addition, you can read, search, and reply to messages online, something you couldn't do with our old email system. Nobody is required to use Google/Gmail to join the list. You can use any email address. And better yet, you can now control your own subscription - single message mode, digest, even set it to no email when you go on vacation. Or you could just read online if you prefer. Some people are having problems posting via email, just as has been the case with Maclaunch. Your email address has to match the subscribed one - most list servers won't see [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] as the same thing. If you have trouble posting, check the headers to see how your From: and Reply-to: are configured. There have been some objections to Google based on their willingness to provide a restricted search engine in China (among other countries) and abide by national laws rather than opt out of the Chinese market. If you want to boycott Google, consider that Apple Computer, General Motors, and most international businesses also elect to work within the constraints of Chinese law so they can reach the Chinese market and/or use Chinese labor. Neither Google nor the Chinese government puts any restrictions on the political views of participants of our email lists. We chose Google Groups because the provide a much more flexible service with greater user control than any of the mail list software we've run across. Further, politics is explicity listed as an area not to be debated on our lists, along with religion and Windows advocacy. We are building helpful Mac communities, so we try to avoid divisive issues. -- Dan Knight, president /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Cobweb Publishing, Inc.\ / No HTML/RTF in email http://cobwebpublishing.com X No Word docs in email http://lowendmac.com / \ Respect Open Standards http://reformed.net -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
New Low End Mac email lists
We've created some new email lists, but they're different from the old ones. We're using Google Groups, which means you can sign up, change your status, and read postings using your browser. I hope to eventually move other lists to Google Groups as well. The Macintel list, which covers all Intel-based Macs, went live last week and has 57 members. Once the MacBook Pro ships, we're ready to launch the MacBook List. I've also set up a Mac mini List. Details: Macintel List: http://groups.google.com/group/macintel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mac mini List: http://groups.google.com/group/Mac-mini-list [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacBook List: http://groups.google.com/group/macbook-list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can join any of these lists, but the MacBook List will not go live until the MacBooks start shipping in February. Until then, all Mac-on-Intel discussion should be on the Macintel List. Dan the listmom -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
System 6, Compact Macs on LEM today
I hope you've noticed the renewed focus on older Macs at Low End Mac. Today we've got two new pieces that should be especially interesting to you: The Joy of Six: Apple's Fast, Svelte, Reliable, and Still Useful System 6 http://lowendmac.com/sable/05/1206.html And in a more lighthearted vein, 10 Things New Classic Mac Owners Should Know http://lowendmac.com/brierley/05/1206.html Other recent articles: Which System Software Is Best for My Vintage Mac? http://lowendmac.com/sable/05/1122.html How to Set Up Your Own Mac Plus (or Later) Web Server http://lowendmac.com/rivera/05/1129.html Operating System Nostalgia http://lowendmac.com/conachey/05/1116.html I've been having a blast playing Wizardry on a emulated Mac Plus using Mini vMac, which is available for the classic Mac OS, OS X, Windows, and Linux. Very cool. Very strange. Lots of fun. http://minivmac.sourceforge.net/ -- Dan Knight, president /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Cobweb Publishing, Inc.\ / No HTML/RTF in email http://cobwebpublishing.com X No Word docs in email http://lowendmac.com / \ Respect Open Standards http://reformed.net -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Fraudulent request from List Mom
Friends, The message posted to these lists late last Friday did not come from me. Good portions of it were quoted from things I had written in the past, but I would never use these lists to look for a partner. I'm doing quite nicely with Yahoo Personals, Match.com, and eHarmony, thank you. I appreciate the notes of encouragement, but the posting was fraudulent. Someone spoofed my return address, and we are investigating. Dan Knight, List Mom, LEM Lists -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
New email for listmom
Members of the 30 Low End Mac email lists: I'm phasing out my listmom at lemlists email address because it gets far more spam than all my other addresses combined. I've created a new mailbox - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - for website and email list correspondence. I'm in the process of updating links in the headers and footers. Reminder: Be sure to mention which list(s) you're on when corresponding. With 30 lists, there's just no way I can dig through them all looking for your subscription. Dan the List Mom -- Dan Knight, president /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Cobweb Publishing, Inc.\ / No HTML/RTF in email http://cobwebpublishing.com X No Word docs in email http://lowendmac.com / \ Respect Open Standards http://reformed.net -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Challenge and Response Clarification
In response to some emails received since yesterday's posting, I've updated the list FAQ to specifically state that our objection is to challenge and response anti-spam services used to filter messages from the list. This doesn't apply to individual off-list correspondence. New text: What about anti-spam services? We already take the steps necessary to keep spam off our lists. Whatever filtering you do with your email software and your email service is up to you. That said, we take a dim view of anti-spam services such as Spam Arrest and Cashette that require the sender of a message to respond to a message from the anti-spam service (a 'challenge and response' system) before allowing the recipient to receive the posting. Such a service inconveniences anyone who posts to the list and is unnecessary. These are all closed lists, so there is no spam. Only those who have requested a subscription and confirmed their subscription are allowed to post. Please don't inconvenience our members by asking them to jump through hoops to keep your mailbox spam free. Any subscriber using this kind of anti-spam service for list messages will receive one warning and be temporarily blocked from posting to the list. If the situation is not resolved quickly, the subscriber will be banned. The burden should be on the spammers, not innocent list members. Note that this applies specifically to list messages, not to individual correspondence with list members. Dan Knight, listmom -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Computers are like air conditioners; they don't work when you open windows. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Anti-spam and the Low End Mac lists
I just received an email from a subscriber who got a challenge and response email from the Cashette anti-spam service. Such services work by blocking email from any address not on the user's white list - which means anyone posting to the list. Our lists are already spam-proofed, so please don't use a challenge and response anti-spam system on the address you use to subscribe to this list. Here's our official policy on these services: What about anti-spam services? We already take the steps necessary to keep spam off our lists. Whatever filtering you do with your email software and your email service is up to you. That said, we take a dim view of anti-spam services such as Spam Arrest that require the sender of a message to respond to a message from the anti-spam service before allowing the recipient to receive the posting. Such a service inconveniences anyone who posts to the list and is unnecessary. These are all closed lists, so there is no spam. Only those who have requested a subscription and confirmed their subscription are allowed to post. If that is not good enough for you, please don't inconvenience our members by asking them to jump through hoops to keep your mailbox spam free. Any subscriber using this kind of anti-spam service will receive one warning. If the situation is not resolved quickly, the subscriber will be banned. The burden should be on the spammers, not innocent list members. Remember, one warning. I ask that anyone posting to the list who receives a challenge and response email forward it to me with anti-spam in the subject line. Thanks! Dan the listmom -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net I was to learn later in life that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganizing, and what a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress while producing confusion, inefficiency, and demoralization. -- Petronius -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Notes from the list mom
Topics: * Thank You * Low End Mac Services * List Notes FAQ Updates THANK YOU A huge thank you to list members and the rest of the Mac community. We have received donations in excess of $6,000 that have covered our entire debt load. Low End Mac is now debt free and has enough money in the bank to get us through a couple more weeks. Special thanks to Small Dog Electronics, which has faithfully supported Low End Mac by sponsoring several of our email lists. In the worst of times, Small Dog was a lifeline for us. In the good times, their support remains essential to balancing our budget from month to month. Thanks to list sponsors, site sponsors, and affiliate programs, it looks like we'll be taking in enough to make ends meet from here on out. Nobody is going to get rich, but I'll be getting paid weekly and the paid writers on our staff will be getting paid regularly as well. LOW END MAC SERVICES List subscribers may sign up for a lemlists.com email address for US$6.00 per year. See our Terms of Service at http://lemlists.com/tos.html We also offer email addresses at lowendmac.net for US$12.00 per year, and this can be combined with online space for storing images, putting up Web pages, etc. Details at http://lowendmac.net/accounts/index.html Both of these services will help us cover hosting fees for our sites. These services are offered by Low End Mac and managed by Ryan Coleman, our systems administrator. At present we are set up to use PayPal exclusively. Ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] can provide a snail mail address for those who would prever to send a check or money order. LIST NOTES FAQ UPDATES It appears that the Maclaunch server is rejecting any and all styled messages and emails with attachments, even those destined for command addresses. The following two sections have been added to the list FAQs today: If you reply to the [warning messages], they should go away -- but they may not. We have no idea why these messages are being generated; we have made maclaunch.com aware of the problem. That is all we can do. Note that the list server has been set to reject styled messages and email with attachments, so when responding to warning messages, be sure your response is a plain text email. and And for some reason unknown to us, the Maclaunch mail server will not accept styled email or messages with attachments send to any of the command addresses. You must send plain text email to subscribe, confirm, change mode, etc. Anything else will be rejected by the server. I hope this helps solve the problems some of you have been having changing your subscriptions, responding to warning messages, etc. Dan the listmom -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Every day is payday in a labor of love. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Missing Digests
Due to corruption of my mail database, I've lost several digests from August 28 through September 2. If anyone on the list can redirect or forward copies to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED], I'd really appreciate it. Missing Digests: 1700, 1701, and 1702 Thanks! Dan the listmom -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Mediocrity thrives on standardization. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Update on LEM finances
The Mac community has been more than generous in its support of Low End Mac. In ten days, we have lined up a buyer for our TiBook, have some promising leads for selling our two 333 MHz Rev. D iMacs, and have received donations covering over $5,000 of our roughly $6,000 debt load. For the first time in a couple years, my paychecks cover a week in the same month that they're cut. I've gone from being 3 months behind on payroll to three weeks. I'll finish catching up in September to help equalize the tax liabilities on all that payroll. We have received approximately $3,000 via PayPal, over $1,200 through the mail, a little more than $1,000 through the Amazon Honor System, and about $500 in payment for lemlists and lowendmac.net email accounts. We also have about $400 donated through Kagi, but it will be some time before those funds actually reach us. Last week we had a plumbing emergency -- a leak collapsed a bedroom ceiling. This money couldn't have come at a better time. We have a $250 deductible and have to pay the cost of fixing the cause of the problem. Insurance will cover the rest. We have a contractor working up an estimate for painting our chimney and repairing our broken cement. Hoping that won't be too costly. The screen door I should be able to replace myself. And the roof will have to wait until we find out whether our refinancing has gone through. I set up and sold over a dozen LC 630 systems at $30 each through our garage sale over the weekend. Nice machines with 12 MB RAM, System 7.5.5, a 14 monitor, choice of a compact or extended keyboard, tested drives (floppy, hard, and CD-ROM). And some nice freeware, shareware, and abandoned games. Funny thing is, I got these from a school that was going to pay someone to haul them away -- and a lot of them are going into classrooms because teachers are buying them so their students can work on their keyboarding skills. I'll be ordering copies of ClarisWorks 3.0 for some of these people -- just $1 through Shreve Systems -- so they have something better than SimpleText to work with. I remain overwhelmed at the generosity of the Mac community. I send out lots of thank you emails each day, and twice I've gone to the bank with huge stacks of checks. We have added a new option to our support page, because several people asked us to. It's now possible to automatically make a monthly donation through PayPal. http://lowendmac.com/support.shtml As always, thank you for your support of Low End Mac. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Low End Mac's Financial Crisis
To make a long story short, Low End Mac is about $6,000 in the hole due to the collapse of ad rates in early 2001. Although ad rates have recovered and we are pretty much breaking even today, we still have this huge deficit that needs to be eliminated. It wouldn't be urgent. I've been 3-4 months behind on payroll for a long time, I've taken a part-time job in a local camera store, and our family is just getting by from week to week. However, we've just entered crisis mode. We've lived in our house for 9 years. Over that time, both my wife and I have endured significant income reductions. Insurance and taxes have increased our house payments while our income has dropped, and we have not been able to keep up on a lot of small repairs. No big deal. None of them endanger anyone -- until now. The city has threatened to issue an arrest warrant and fine me because of some broken cement, a storm door with no screen (we never use that door, but it doesn't appear to matter), some branches touching the roof, and several other minor repair items that put us in violation the Housing Code. We just don't have the money. One of our sons had surgery, and our new insurance meant we had to pick up part of the tab. Then our water heater burst. Then the faucet on the kitchen sink broke and had to be replaced. Little things keep coming up, and we're barely treading water financially. I can't afford to go to jail, pay fines, or make these repairs. We are attempting to refinance our home from a 9.0% mortgage to 6.2%, and we're asking for some extra cash, but it won't be enough to cover the repairs the city wants, reshingling the roof (which is desperately needed), and taking care of some significant plumbing and electrical issues. We're asking the Low End Mac community to help out. For list members, signing up for a lemlists.com email address at $6/year helps us and provides you a very low cost email address. For a bit more, we also have lowendmac.net email addresses available, along with Web space and other services. I have decided to sell my 400 MHz PowerBook G4. It has 512 MB RAM and the original 10 GB hard drive and DVD-ROM drive. The lid and screen were just replaced under AppleCare, the keyboard was replaced some months ago, and AppleCare coverage continues through January 31, 2004. $1,200 plus shipping. I also have two 333 MHz iMacs for sale. One has 320 MB RAM and the original 6 GB hard drive. The other has 192 MB RAM (we tried more, but no luck) and a 20 GB 7200 rpm drive. These include the original iMac keyboard and round mouse. I'm trying to find copies of the original Rev. D software CDs -- these were obtained used and did not include them. I'm hoping to sell these for $400 each with local pickup. (I'd rather not pack and ship these heavy beasties.) We are also accepting donations via PayPal, the Amazon Honor System, Kagi, and e-gold. For more details about Low End Mac's financial situation and links for the above, go to http://lowendmac.com/musings/03/0814.html Thank you for your ongoing support of Low End Mac. -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Life is too short to use anything but a Mac. -- Roger Ebert -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Apple Hard Disk 20 followup
On 6/22/03 4:10 PM, Jeff Walther posted: It turned out that the Goodwill store had three of the HD 20s on the shelves at $5 each, so I picked up all three The hard drives in all three are Rodime 552's and they do indeed have a 26 pin connector. That is not consistent with SCSI, IDE nor MFM. It's possible that it's a modified connector for one of those interfaces with all the GND pins tied together or something, but how would one tell? None of the chips on the controller card are clearly SCSI nor IDE controller chips. The Apple HD 20 predates the SCSI specification and IDE, so there's no way it could be either. In those days, most drives were MFM or RLR, and a lot of them still used proprietary connectors. This drive could be unique to the HD 20. -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net I was to learn later in life that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganizing, and what a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress while producing confusion, inefficiency, and demoralization. -- Petronius -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
hard drive size
On 6/5/03 3:00 PM, Marcelus G. Zalotti posted: on 04/06/2003 12:40, Gamba at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone answer this SE/30 Maximum HD size question with authority? A little voice in the back of my head is whispering about a 2GB limit (possibly an OS-driven HFS issue?). The maximum HD size is determined by which System software is used. With 7.5 or higher the limit is greater than 2GB. See: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=11333 Gamba http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2 Well, I've got a PowerMac 6100 with a 9.1GB HD, and when I started it up with a System 7.5 Install CD I've seen a warning message saying that volumes larger than 4GB couldn't be mounted on desktop. Well, this should be the ceiling, doesn't it? There is no maximum hard drive size. There is a maximum *partition* size, which was 2 GB up until System 7.5.1, then bumped to 4 GB in 7.5.2. Apple's software allows up to 8 partitions per hard drive, so a 15 GB drive could be partitioned as eight app. 2 GB partitions that any Mac could access -- and a 30 GB drive could support 8 partitions of up to 4 GB apiece. Although you could use a larger hard drive and create an unusable partition, 15 GB is probably plenty for most compact Mac users. -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Microsoft Windows? How 20th century! -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Monthly reminder from Mom and something new
Monthly reminders and something new: 1. If you have problems with your subscription -- switching mode, unsubscribing, etc. -- email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] An please mention the list(s) you're on so I know where to look. We are running over 30 lists these days. 2. If your messages are being rejected by the server, read the bounce message. It will explain why. Attachments (including Vcards), styled text, multipart messages, and non-standard character sets are all possible reasons a message may be rejected. Not changing the subject when replying to the digest is another. (Reply to a single message, not the whole digest -- change the subject line.) 3. We have 30-some lists, most of which have more members today than ever before. There are almost always new people on the list. Be considerate of them. 4. Quote selectively. Never quote the entire original message right down through the footers. Never. Only quote the relevant bits you're responding to. And always quote enough of the original message that we have some idea what you're responding to. 5. We encourage bottom posting on our lists. That means you post your response *following* the quoted bits you are responding to. Whether you do this by interleaving your response between paragraphs or in a single chunk at the end of the email is your call. 6. When a thread changes subject, change the subject line. 7. I've added a page listing the guidelines used by the list managers (mom and nannies) as well as the responsibilities of list members. This is now linked from the FAQ of each list with the following paragraph: The list is expected to handle things responsibly, and members are expected to behave in such a way that the list requires minimal administrative intervention. When action is required, the list mom and nannies will act in accordance with our Rules of List Management. This page also defines terms (ban, block, flame, troll, etc.) and lists the responsibilities of subscribers. The rules are posted at http://lowendmac.com/lists/rules.html -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Microsoft is to software as McDonald's is to beef. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Missing Compact Macs digests
Due to some unforseen circumstances and the need to move the LEMlists server to a new location, I've missed some digests over the past weeks. If anyone on the list can redirect or forward copies to [EMAIL PROTECTED], I'd be most grateful: Digests #1500-1503 #1518-1519 #1521 Hoping this is the end of these problems. Dan the listmom -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net As for Unix being 'inflexible,' 'expensive,' and 'complex,' we feel those are terms much better suited to the closed and proprietary world of Windows. Sun -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Bugbear virus and LEM lists
A former member of the PCI PowerMacs list was alerted to the presence of a virus on a message purportedly sent from pci-powermacs. He emailed the following: This morning I received an email (apparantly) from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Our virus scanning software, carefully updated by our professional paranoids, alerted me to the fact that it contained a bugbear a virus in an attachment (filename cotter.dat.scr) The email message itself seems real enough, until you look at the dates; look at the bottom of this mail. A little research on the bugbear virus turns up the following: 1. It installs itself in the Startup folder of any version of Windows later than 3.1. 2. It attempts to use any SMTP (email sending) resources on the infected computer to create mass mailings. 3. It attempts to install itself on other computers on the network. 4. It attempts to create a backdoor on the infected computer that the worm's creator could use to access the computer in the future. 5. It will send emails from safe looking bogus email addresses (such as [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of @maclaunch.com) to addresses it finds. It also seems to quote part of an email from that user ID to make the message look more authentic. You may be tipped off by a strange date, an unusual return address, or your virus checker going off (Windows users should always run virus checking -- users with other operating systems cannot be infected by this and most other viruses). These messages are not from our lists or our server; the bugbear worm can only be propagated by Windows computers. However, at first glance they may appear to come from us, so Windows users should be careful when checking list messages. And we can all wonder when Microsoft is going to get serious about secure computing. The level of insecurity that gave birth to tens of thousands of worms and viruses in simply unacceptable, yet over 90% of all computer users take it in stride as something normal they have to deal with. Thank goodness we only use Macs for production and *nix servers for our site and mailing lists. -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net In a world without walls or fences, who needs windows or gates? -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Read the FAQs and archives
Okay, I'm a bit behind on my email, but I have to respond Grin With Me, long since banned from this list, writes: It seems bizarre to me that the creator of these lists is incapable of seeing their function. Excuse me, but how does allowing anonymous diatribes benefit the list? It doesn't build community. It doesn't provide useful information. It does nothing but let you vent -- and gets us to wonder if we need to close the subscription system instead of automatically accepting all comers. The function of the list is for Mac users to help each other out. Much of that help comes from recommending online resources -- you can get the drive you need here, this site explains how to remove the jumper, that page explains the 640 x 480 screen mod, etc. And a lot of the information that has come through this list has already been distilled into sites like Low End Mac and the pickle's FAQs. When people fail to avail themselves of those resources, we see the same questions being asked week after week, month after month, year after year. So we link to these resources in the FAQ and in the message footer (and just below the index in digest mode). You learn more and learn better doing your own research than by having the answer spoon fed to you -- and your research skills can help you with future questions. Low End Mac is about enabling users to get the most out of their old hardware. And if they don't learn to use the list (including the archives) and Internet, we haven't done our job. As the creator of these lists, I think I have a pretty good idea of their purpose and function. That's why we weed out trolls. The problem isn't people not doing research or using google or reading TILs. Face it, Dan Knight, users start doing that and there's no need for the lists. At least that's the way you see it. Absolutely. If the sum of all knowledge about Macs existed in a book or on the Internet, the list would be unnecessary. But that hasn't happened yet. Besides, books go out of print and websites disappear. So we continue to share our expertise here while others try to condense that into still better online resources. The way I see it is that the problem isn't people not reading the FAQ. It's people getting beaten over the head with the FAQ by pickle. Yes, pickle. It's time for him to move on. That's a completely different issue. The FAQ came about because the pickle, among others, was tired of seeing the same questions asked time and again -- and there being no good online resource that answered the kind of questions low-end Mac users had. So he combined his knowledge with the wisdom of the lists and created his FAQ with our blessing. Yes, sometimes he's a bit of a curmudgeon. Then again, you should see me after wading through a stack of unsubscribe me messages from people who assume that I somehow intuitively know which list they're on (no, these aren't generally coming from members of vintage Macs lists tired of hearing Read the FAQ). The pickle is just another member of the list, but he's also one who has gained a lot of expertise with older Macs. He's clock-chipped some of mine. We've swapped some hardware. He's a wealth of practical information and comfortable working with a soldering iron. Okay, so he's not all sunshine all the time. Who is? We'll work on nudging him to be a bit more helpful with his replies, but I'd hate to lose the wealth of information he represents. It is incontrovertible that pickle is an arrogant, obnoxious, self-important, abusive individual who believes that he is above the community. This from someone posting anonymously. I'm sorry the list had to be subjected to it -- this email is far more abusive than anything I've ever seen from the pickle. Now can we get back to helping each other out instead of trying to make sour relish of the pickle? -- Dan Knight, president/\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Cobweb Publishing, Inc. \ / No HTML/RTF in email http://cobwebpublishing.com X No Word docs in email http://lowendmac.com / \ Respect Open Standards! http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/9910/27.deb.shtml -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Read the FAQs and archives
These lists are invaluable resources. A fair bit of information on Low End Mac has come through these lists. A lot of info in the pickle's low-end Mac FAQ came through these lists. Many of the questions asked here could be answered on the Web with a quick online search of Low End Mac and the pickle's FAQ (both linked in every message and digest). When that fails, try Google. When that fails, try the list archive (link in footer of single messages, below index in digest mode). Do a little research. If you still can't find an answer or don't understand what you're reading, then it's time to ask for help. And we're always glad to give it. Do that and we'll never have to see a Read the FAQ message on the list. That's why people like the pickle and me try to scrounge up the most helpful information and post it on the Web. Why keep repeating ourselves when we can write it once and for all? There's a reason the list FAQ has links to the pickle's FAQ, EveryMac, Apple's TIL, and other resources. There's a reason every mailing you get from the list includes links to LEM and the pickle's FAQ. Use the lists to ask questions not already answered on the Web, or where you can't find the answer (Apple TIL is a good example!), or where you don't understand the answer. Then we'll see about adding the new knowledge to the old on Low End Mac, the pickle's FAQ, and who knows where else on the Internet, growing the body of helpful Mac information out there. Dan the listmom -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Unix for stability. Macs for productivity. Windows for solitaire. In other words, Mac OS X for pretty much everything. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Great uses for old Macs
I'm the listmom, so I guess I can break my own rule against crossposting. I've been thinking of this for about a week now, and I really want to do a series of articles under the idea I Can Do It on My Low End Mac. In the past I've tried writing articles on how a Mac Plus or II is still useful. I've decided that's the wrong approach. These articles should come from the user community and explain what useful things old Macs can do -- then go on to describe how low-end a Mac can do it. Topics -- and these are just what comes to mind -- feel free to make other suggestions: * Email, esp. on a compact Mac * Browsing reasonably well on a 68K Mac (even ancient Power Macs do a much better job than most '030 models -- muuuch better) * Sharing an Internet connection * Setting up a LocalTalk bridge * Good writing setups -- software and hardware * A home/small business file server using Personal File Sharing * Games that are lots of fun on low-end Macs * Using QuickTime to import/export video or record TV (poor man's TiVo or Replay TV) * Setting up a dedicated fax machine with an old Mac, software, and fax modem * Voice mail with an old Mac instead of a plain old answering machine * Working with digital photos on a low-end Mac * Connecting an old LocalTalk only Mac to ethernet For a lot of these, there are several different solutions. We've published a few pieces like this in the past, such as why the Mac Plus is such a great writing machine. Article should include minimum and recommended hardware requirements and OS requirements. Discuss this on the lists -- and if you'd like to write an article on one of these topics or something else of this type, email me at my listmom address. Thanks! -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net In a world without walls or fences, who needs windows or gates? -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: The OT Menace...
martin writes: On Saturday, February 8, 2003, at 11:02 AM, Rob wrote: Anyone have any info on anything Commodore 64 ??, I just got one, and it boots but not properly If you have, take it off-list immediately. A 64 wasn't even a compact Commodore! Stuart (list nanny) and WHO do you suggest he might try asking??? As I said in my email to Rob, this is way off topic. Only difference is, I sent it privately. Stuart accidentally posted his reply to the list. Then I suggested Google Dan the listmom -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Look at this!
the pickle writes: Yeah, stick a PowerCC/ after the domain name: http://www.stuartbell.dsl.pipex.com/PowerCC/PMGSP/PMGSP.html Wow, Stuart, I didn't know you'd done this one. I've got Quaddy 605s, at least one spare SE or SE/30. Add a PDS ethernet card and this could be almost as cool as a Color Classic/575 (which my #2 son has). Any chance of rearranging all of this in more of a step-by-step tutorial fashion? Dan the listmom -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net You shouldn't need a Passport to use the World Wide Web. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Infected Subscriber(s)
the pickle writes: It has recently come to my attention (through the receiving of two copies of the following e-mail within five minutes) that a list subscriber is infected with a virus. Anyone reading the list on a Windoze machine is likely at risk for infection. Only if the infected computer emails them directly. Any email sent to the list with any kind of attachment is automatically rejected, so there is no chance that messages from the list will be infected. Yet another argument for using a Mac. ;-) Dan the listmom -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Please have your pet peeves spayed or neutered. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Notes from the List Mom
We've been having problems with the LEMlists mail server since January 6. I downloaded a boatload of email last night (well over 100 messages after first culling spam), discovered how many digests I'm missing, and have already sent out requests for those. I also have 10 days worth of listmom messages to wade through, which will be my top priority once the morning site update for Low End Mac is done. Just a few reminders: * If you can't unsubscribe or change subscription mode, contact me or one of the nannies (only the busier lists have nannies). * There is nothing we can do about the warning messages saying Maclaunch was unable to deliver messages. This is out of our control. * If you can't post to the list, you should get a bounced message explaining why. The main reasons are: 1. You are sending from an unsubscribed address. 2. You are sending styled text or a message with an attachment. You can only post from a subscribed address, and the server has been instructed to refuse anything other than plain text email. Dan the Listmom -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net I was to learn later in life that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganizing, and what a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress while producing confusion, inefficiency, and demoralization. -- Petronius -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Missing Compact Macs digests
We've had some long-term outages with the lemlist mail server, and I've missed a boatload of digests from the various lists. If anyone on the list can redirect (a feature some email programs have and others don't -- it's different from forwarding) copies of the following digests to me, I'd really appreciate it. Compact Macs Digest #1448 to #1453 Compact Macs Digest #1455 to #1458 Compact Macs Digest #1461 Thanks! Dan the listmom -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Microsoft Windows? How 20th century! -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Missing Compact Macs digest
The lemlists.com mail server was down for a while last week, so Compact Macs Digest #1434 never reached me. If someone on the list could redirect or forward a copy to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED], I'd be most grateful. Thanks! Dan the listmom -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Mediocrity thrives on standardization. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
SCSI, IDE, and Compact Flash
Been doing some online research. Compact Flash to IDE adapters are cheap -- about US$20 -- and appear to be very simple devices. Links http://www.acscontrol.com/Index_ACS.asp?Page=/Pages/Products/CompactFlash/ IDE_To_CF_Adapter.htm http://www.mesanet.com/diskcardinfo.html http://www.abiatech.com/fb4617.htm http://linitx.com/products/compact_flash_ide_adapter/ Compact Flash to SCSI adapters are very costly. Most are external. All are designed for use with removable media. $200 and up is par for the course. IDE to SCSI adapters are moderately priced -- about US$70 -- and a lot of them are quite compact and designed for internal use. Links http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/IDE/IDE_to_SCSI/ide_to_scsi_adapter.html http://www.acard.com/eng/product/scside/aec-7720u.html http://www.memorylabs.net/acaecscsitbr.html The logical way to use Compact Flash in a Mac with a SCSI bus would seem to be with both a SCSI to IDE adapter and an IDE to Compact Flash adapter. I have emailed Acard, the manufacturer of the most popular and most affordable SCSI-to-IDE bridge to inquire if a SCSI-to-CF bridge would be a feasible modification of their current product with a potential worldwide market of several hundred to several thousand units. On the other hand, if someone on the list has the expertise to undertake such a product or knows someone who might Dan the listmom -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Computers are like air conditioners; they don't work when you open windows. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Cause of spurious subscription requests
Wooohooo - we finally got to the bottom of this one! Somehow the [EMAIL PROTECTED] addresses had become subscribed to several of our email lists. I don't know how that could have happened, since we require confirmation of all subscriptions, but it did. The result: Every time someone posted to that list, a copy of their email went to the subscribe address, and the list server sent out the usual reply to a subscription request. It wasn't a list configuration matter at all, nor was it anything that should have been able to happen. Live and learn. I'm going through the lists one by one to make sure these addresses are removed. This should be the end of the matter, but if you do get any confirmation emails after this, please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dan the listmom -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Mom on confirmation requests, SpamCop, servers
This is my monthly reminder that the list server at maclaunch.com remains screwed up and often sends out spurious confirmation messages. There is nothing we can do about this at present. Please don't send me email asking about it. I can't fix it. I can't. We are also having some problems with the lemlists.com domain, which we had set up to handle the mailing lists. Without our knowledge or permission, the people running the server have begun using SpamCop to filter incoming email. We find this unacceptable, as people we do business with are now unable to contact us via email. We are looking into alternate hosting solutions for our domains. For most of our domains, we have a huge variety of hosting options at $10/month or so, but we want to be able to offer low-cost email accounts on lemlists.com -- and email plus Web/file storage space on lowendmac.net. If any of you can suggest a good hosting service that will let us sell email addresses at reasonable annual rates, sell online space to users, etc., I'd be happy to hear more -- please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (If that doesn't work due to SpamCop, try [EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Microsoft is to software as McDonald's is to beef. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
SCSI and Compact Flash
We ran an article on Low End Mac a few weeks ago about running PowerBooks with PC Card slots from Compact Flash cards. There's an online article explaining how to hack a PowerBook 150, which normally uses an IDE hard drive, to run from Compact Flash. Someone's even come up with a Compact Flash/IDE card for the old Apple II! http://dreher.net/CFforAppleII/ I'd like to find a way to do this with my old Mac Plus, but Google searches for SCSI, Compact Flash, Mac, and bootable are not at all helpful. I think it would be incredibly cool to have a tiny SCSI enclosure that connects to the 25-pin SCSI port, has a pass-through for other devices, and holds a Compact Flash card. I don't think it would even need power, although I could be wrong. For simplicity, give it only 2 or 4 possible SCSI IDs. Maybe also a version for the 50-pin internal SCSI connector so it could be used in an SE or Classic. For a real challenge -- the oddball SCSI setup in the monstrous Mac Portable Maybe a three part project: 1. Compact Flash to 50-pin SCSI 2. External enclosure for #1 with 25-pin pass-through SCSI 3. Compact Flash to Mac Portable or 50-pin to Mac Portable The CF card wouldn't have to eject -- power down, disconnect the drive, remove the card if you need to change it. Lower capacity CF cards (32 MB and less) are cheap, and unlike hard drives, CF is silent (which is why I think the Mac Plus is the perfect candidate). It should also boot pretty quickly, since there's now pause while the drive spins up. Anyone know if such a device is or has been made? Or if it might be feasible for someone to undertake such a project if we could get 50 or 100 buyers? I think such a project could keep a lot of vintage Macs out of landfills. Let me know your thoughts Dan the listmom -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Another Overclocked Mac
J. S. Garrison writes: Since overclocking the Quadra 700 I own, I went on to try it with a Classic, and a 128 having a Mac Plus motherboard. The Classic hated it. Last night, the 128 begrudgingly allowed it. Once you replace the motherboard, it is no longer a 128. Your little old Mac is now a Mac Plus no matter what the case may say. The board-speed is at 10Mhz. instead of 8. You're asking for trouble, because almost everything on the motherboard is tied to the speed of the crystal: the CPU, video, SCSI, the floppy, etc. I'm surprised your seeing anything on the screen The same goes for the SE and Classic. None of these models can be effectively overclocked. -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net I like nonsense, it wakes up the brain cells. Fantasy is a necessary ingredient in living, it's a way of looking at life through the wrong end of a telescope and that enables you to laugh at life's realities. -- Dr. Seuss -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
digests needed
Due to some changes to the lemlists.com email server over the weekend, I've missed a couple digests. If someone on the list can redirect Compact Macs Digest #1389 and 1390 to [EMAIL PROTECTED], I'd be most grateful. Dan the listmom -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Atheism is a non-prophet organization. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Top vs Bottom Posting
One of my pet peeves -- and something a lot of you have probably received a note about -- is people who quote the entire original message right down through the footer. The header. The ads. Everything. I go through each digest, scrolling past screen after screen of quoted material. It's too much. It's unnecessary. It's poor netiquette. And it violates list guidelines, which ask that you quote selectively in your replies. We had a lengthy and heated discussion of this and replying netiquette on the iMac list. After reading it all, I did some statistical analysis, put down my foot, and created a new rule for the lists. Well, guideline, if you want to be precise. -- Bottom Posting I learned how to reply when I joined an email list and saw how others did it. They would quote the line or paragraph they were replying to and follow it with their response. It looks like a dialog -- he said, she said. The beauty of this method is that even if you never read the original message (say you just subscribed), the quoted portions provide enough information that you know what the writer is responding to. It's not just brilliant, it's intuitive. The reply comes after what you are replying to. As Mary noted on the iMac List: A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- Top Posting Over the past decade, as more and more users have come to use email, a new style of reply emerged where the reply came first and was followed by the original message. Often the entire original message. No selective quoting. No removing unnecessary header lines or ads at the bottom. Bam, everything. Some people prefer top posting, some are very vocal in their support of it, and some refuse to scroll through a message to read a bottom posted reply. Really. -- Our Research Remember the issue of quoting the entire original message? Well it turns out that almost everyone who does that is a top poster. They use the default setting on their email client, they don't take the time to quote selectively, and they fill digests with massive quantities of unnecessarily quoted content. -- Our Guidelines Bottom posting is not only the oldest established method of replying on the Internet, it is also the most logical. It demonstrates that the sender is in a dialogue. It makes it easy for new subscribers to follow the conversation. It's just logical. Because of this, we recommend bottom posting as the normal way of replying on our lists. This should also eliminate most of the problems with excessive quoting. However, we are not passing a hard and fast rule against top posting. I use it myself when I send the following note to excessive quoters: This is a semi-automatic message from Dan, the listmom. Thanks for posting to the list. Please be careful not to quote *too much* of the original message (your recent posting is quoted below) when replying to the list -- especially the header and/or footer. (You're not being singled out; we send this to everyone who does that, and we realize that many email programs do this by default, so you may have to read the manual or help files to learn how to change this.) Thanks! Of course, that's not the kind of discussion we see within a list. On a list, top posting should be the exception, not the rule. Something like this is a bunch of bunk or the nanny declares this thread DEAD are appropriate as top posts; most replies are not. Remember that this is a guideline. We won't kick you off the list for not following it, but we believe bottom posting is the better way. Dan the listmom -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:compact.macs-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:compact.macs-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
November notes from Mom
This is the first of two emails I'm sending to all of the lists this evening. This one covers a bunch of little topics; the second will address top vs. bottom posting. -- Annoying Messages From the List Server We are aware of the annoying messages. We have made Maclaunch aware of the problem. It has been going on for months, and it looks unsolvable. We do not run the server; we have no way to fix it. We will be making an end run around the problem eventually. That's the next point. -- lemlists.com We have registered our own domain specifically for handling our 30-some email lists. We have the server up and running, and I will be leading a team in the creation of the greatest list management software ever devised for handling multiple lists. But it's going to take time. After I send these emails out, I will begin to outline the program and the steps needed to create it on the Mac Webmasters email list. If you have programming experience and are at all interested in this open source project, please join the list. It is most likely that the program will be written in PHP and make extensive use of MySQL. Other suggestions will be welcome on the list. -- Off Topic vs. On Topic Postings These are unmoderated lists. Except for the swap list, where discussion is forbidden, we try to keep the focus on the Mac and Mac related issues. Mac related includes things you do on the Mac, such as printing, browsing the Web, handling email, etc. We have some leeway for off topic postings, but not much. The busier the list, the less likely we are to welcome an off topic thread coming along and taking over digest after digest. This is particularly true of lists such as PCI PowerMacs, Vintage Macs, and the iMac List, which are already quite busy. -- The Nannies The list nannies help keep the lists on target, try to correct violations of netiquette, and have the full authority to temporarily or permanently ban subscribers in cases where they believe it is necessary. They also have their own list where they can discuss these decisions with each other. In a pinch, a nanny can act on a list that isn't their own, but this will mostly take place if the regular nanny is on vacation. If you have problems with the way a nanny is handling something, don't rant on the list -- send a reasonable note to the nanny. Rants will generally be grounds for unsubscribing someone permanently. -- The Lists We runs a host of lists. One for pre-G3 PowerBooks and another for G3 and G4 'Books. One for pre-PCI Power Macs, one for pre-G3 PCI Power Macs, and one for G3 and G4 models. We also have clone lists for Motorola, Power Computing, and Umax, as well as the Old Mac MP list for the DayStar clones and other dual- and quad-processor models. We have a list just for System 6, and another for those installing OS X on unsupported hardware. We have national lists for Canada, the UK, and down under (mostly Australia and New Zealand). We even have lists for the Apple II, Lisa, and Newton. Because of this, we ask that you try to ask questions on the appropriate list. We allow some leeway, but not too much. For instance, don't ask iMac questions on the Vintage Macs list. Plus or minus a generation is our guideline if you must ask questions about off topic hardware. -- The List Mom I am running myself ragged. I will be taking most of the last week of the month off. I need to get away from the responsibilities of 30-some mailing lists, 3-5 new articles on Low End Mac, and all the other stuff for a few days. Clear my head. Let the nannies handle the lists. Maybe even find some time to do some programming, photography, reading, etc. -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Every day is payday in a labor of love. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:compact.macs-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:compact.macs-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: LEM down?
Stuart Bell writes: My IE favourite was set to www.lowendmac.net - .com works OK! Short story: We have another plan for lowendmac.net, so it no longer points to lowendmac.com. Long story: The lowendmac.com domain was originally registered by MacTimes, so when we left their network, we temporarily lost the domain, so we acquired lowendmac.net and used that until we could gain ownership of the dot-com domain. Since aquiring lowendmac.com, we have made every effort to get people to link to it instead of lowendmac.com because we hoped to eventually set up something different on lowendmac.net. We hope to soon offer an a la carte alternative to .mac on that domain, but full details have not yet been worked out. -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher regard those who think alike than those who think differently. -- Nietzsche -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:compact.macs-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:compact.macs-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Digests needed
Dan Knight writes: I am missing the following digests sent between October 18 and 25. Compact Macs Digest #1363 to #1368 Many thanks to the anonymous list member who sent these my way! -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Every day is payday in a labor of love. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:compact.macs-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:compact.macs-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Digests needed
I am missing the following digests sent between October 18 and 25. Compact Macs Digest #1363 to #1368 If you have copies of these and have an email program that can *redirect* messages (this is different from forwarding and allows redirected emails to reach their new address with the original return address -- Claris Emailer has this feature), please redirect a copy of each of these messages to my [EMAIL PROTECTED] email address. Thanks! Dan the listmom -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher regard those who think alike than those who think differently. -- Nietzsche -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:compact.macs-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:compact.macs-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
From the listmom
The bad news: lemlists.com was down for nearly a week due to sarcasm on our dear friends at Network Solutions. sarcasm off The server changed to a new IP address last Saturday, but it took NSI nearly a week to update their records. This is one reason I refuse to use NSI for domain registration. I've been very happy with aitdomains.com, and I know there are a lot of other good alternatives to NSI. The good news: lemlists.com has been resolving since Friday, which is more than I can say for all my domains at present. (See snide comments about NSI above.) This means I can finally read email from the lists. The bad news: I have received digests from Oct. 18 as well as digests dated yesterday, but none in between. I have a request in to the nannies to provide the missing digests if they have them. If they don't, I'll post specific requests to specific lists on Monday. And then I'll have a whole lot of email to wade through. The good news: We are extending the service period for all current LEMlist account holders by one month as our way of apologizing for this extended outage. -- next topic -- To clarify: the focus of these lists is not specifically hardware or an operating system. The focus of the lists is what we do with our Macs; the name of the list indicates what family of Macs or which OS we are dealing with. Explicitly off topic items include politics, religion, and pro-Windows postings. Discussion of things like posting etiquette, blogging, and even language are acceptable as long as they are related to our use of Macs (or Lisas, Newtons, Apple IIs on those lists) or our participation in the list. If they go beyond that scope, the nannies will generally step in, label them officially off topic, and ask for an end to discussion. -- next topic -- In the coming week we hope to announce the Low End Mac Network, which will be hosted at lowendmac.net. (Anyone with links to lowendmac.net should change them to lowendmac.com -- they are already broken.) LEMnet will serve two functions. First, it will be an a la carte alternative to Apple's .mac services. We will offer email accounts, Web space, file storage space, an equivalent to iDisk, and maybe (we're looking into it) WebDAV support for iCal. More details when we have them hammered out. The second function will be to archive Mac related websites that would otherwise vanish into the ether. We will provide free active archiving for defunct websites to keep valuable information from disappearing. Again, we're working on the details. We'll post more information at lowendmac.net -- and to the lists -- as it's available. -- next topic -- Low End Mac as a business has not been what I expected. I have been working three days (17 hours) a week at a local camera shop to supplement income from Low End Mac, which is essentially my full time (40-50 hours per week) job. Sometime in November, I will begin working with a new publisher in the education field. I'll be working 15-20 hours per week, generally M-Th noon until 5:00 pm, which will significantly curtail the amount of time I can spend on LEM during the week. I will be more dependent than ever on the nannies to keep the lists running smoothly. On the plus side, this job will pay a lot better than retailing cameras. On the minus, it will take me away from LEM more hours during the week. With site income where it is, this is a necessary tradeoff. Another plus: I won't have to work Saturdays. I can have my weekends back. :-) -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Microsoft is to software as McDonald's is to beef. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:compact.macs-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:compact.macs-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Claris Emailer Lite vs. Claris Emailer?
jwhite writes: Over the weekend, I found Emailer available for download, and grabbed it. After I installed it and tried it out, it seemed noticeable slower than the Lite version. Has anyone else witnessed the same? Does this full version do anything better than the lite version? I read in the upgrade section of the lite manual, that the full version allows you to access up to 5 accounts. Hopefully someone out there needs that feature, otherwise the programmers wasted alot of time, as I sure don't need that. I definitely need it -- I use Emailer 2.0v3 to handle about a dozen different email accounts, automatically filter my incoming email to any of dozens of folders, and redirect lost digests to subscribers. I'd be lost without it, although most email users probably don't need this much power -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Every day is payday in a labor of love. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:compact.macs-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:compact.macs-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Virus message?
Andrew Main writes: My ISP just notified me of a possible virus in a quarantined message, which purports to be From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] That should tip you off -- we're hosted at maclaunch.com. with the Subject: Compact Macs Digest #1328 snip When I opened the message in the ISP's Web interface, it said THE HTML CODE IN THIS MESSAGE MAY CONTAIN A VIRUS, THEREFORE IT IS NOT SAFE TO DISPLAY. YOU MAY WISH TO CONTACT THE SENDER AND NOTIFY THEM OF THE INFECTION. That should also have tipped you off, as our list server rejects styled email and messages with attachments. How did the sender get my address? Did you post a message to that digest or a recent digest? That might have been the source. -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Mediocrity thrives on standardization. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:compact.macs-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:compact.macs-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Virus message?
Joost van de Griek writes: On 2002-10-16 05:14, Darren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... virii ... Aargh. Please stop it. It's either viruses, or possibly virus. Definitely not virii. In medicine and biology, it's viruses. In the computing world, despite the objections of Latin scholars and other anal types, virii dominates as the plural of computer virus. What counts is real world usage, not ivory tower scholarship. Most of all, let's be thankful that Mac users don't have to worry much about virus or worm infections. -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net In a world without walls or fences, who needs windows or gates? -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:compact.macs-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:compact.macs-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Van de Kanigit
Darren writes: Joost van de Griek wrote: On 2002-10-16 05:14, Darren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great site. What does van de mean? No, I really don't know. Van de is Dutch for from the. You'll also see van der and van den, depending on the word that follows. My question: What's a griek? Dan Knight (from Knegt), listmom And then spake Spiritus ex Machina: And then we'll all taunt him, the silly English kanigit! You can consider me the silly Dutch kanigit. ;-) Dan Knight, listmom -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:compact.macs-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:compact.macs-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Warning messages
Just a reminder to anyone receiving automated warning messages from the list server. This situation is beyond our control. Maclaunch runs the server, and we have reported the problem to them. The messages are generated automatically. There is nothing we can do about them short of unsubscribing addresses from the list. We cannot fix it. We are working on our own solution, but it's a slow process. If anyone has strong PHP and MySQL skills -- especially involving sending and receiving email -- we are desperately looking for help. Our new software will be a lot better when it gets done, and we will release it as open source once it's up and running. But until we can manage things like reading incoming email and sending it out again, managing subscription requests, etc., we're stuck with the current setup. -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher regard those who think alike than those who think differently. -- Nietzsche -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Need 50 MB temp webspace.
Gamba writes: I have an archive of the now defunct vieuxmac.com website. Does anybody have about 50 MB of temporary webspace available that can be uploaded with Fetch? Sounds like a potential project for lowendmac.net -- which we hope to officially announce later this week. We're working on setting up a viable a la carte alternative to Apple's .mac service. We'll have email, Web space, iDisk space, and maybe even get WebDAV up and running for iCal. Prices are not finalized yet, but we're looking at $10/year for a 15 MB mailbox, FTP space at $20/25 MB or $35/50 MB or $50/100 MB, access to MySQL and PHP for an additional $10/year. Don't know what's involved with WebDAV yet, but we're anticipating $5/year for that service if we get it up and running. All users will be required to sign up for an email address, but beyond that everything is optional. In addition to user accounts, lowendmac.net can also be a place to archive websites in danger of vanishing into the ether. We won't have things set up for a while yet (right now lowendmac.net points to lowendmac.com), but we're getting there. If nobody has stepped up on the vieuxmac site, let me know. I can temporarily throw it on my own computer until the lowendmac.net server is up and running. -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Life is too short to use anything but a Mac. -- Roger Ebert -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
New t-shirts and stuff from Low End Mac
I've just spent over 5 hours creating new artwork, a new online store, and a whole bunch of new T-shirts and other items. NEW A whole series of I Switched T-shirts with the phrase Mac User Since 1984 (and every year through 2002) plus the infamous Y2K. Another replaces that with I Don't Do Windows. These T-shirts recognize that most Mac users were switchers at one time. I think my switch officially took place in 1990, maybe 1991 The final shirt in this series says, Switch? I already use a Mac! so even those who never switched can buy a T-shirt. :-) We also have a Switchers for Kids section with Too Young To Switch shirts and bibs and sweatshirts. OLDER We've added a whole bunch of new items (even a license plate holder) with the old I Love My Low End Mac sentiment, and the Because every Mac becomes low end sooner or later products are also available. And we can't forget the It's not obsolete 'til I say it is line. Prices range from reasonable to somewhat steep, quality is reported as excellent by those who have bought through Cafe Press in the past, and about 10% of the sale price comes back to Low End Mac. Pop on over to http://www.cafepress.com/lemstore to see the vast selection of t-shirts, sweatshirts, mugs, totes, etc. -- Dan Knight, president/\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Cobweb Publishing, Inc. \ / No HTML/RTF in email http://cobwebpublishing.com X No Word docs in email / \ Respect Open Standards! http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/9910/27.deb.shtml -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
List server update
Just a note to let you know that Maclaunch has made some updates and the list server is now able to send daily digests again. On most list (except for Mac UK), that's set to 3:30 p.m. East Coast time, so if a digest hasn't already been sent during the day, one will go out then if there are any messages in the queue. This will eliminate all the problems we've had over the past 6 weeks or so with digest size and frequency. We are still working toward our own solution, but it's going to be a long-term project. These updates do not appear to have solved the ongoing problems with confirmation requests. :-( Dan the listmom -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Note from Mom
As noted in the FAQ, you can only post from, change mode using, and unsubscribe with the exact email address you used to subscribe. We also send out an automated email stating this when you subscribe. If you are having subscription problems -- and as often as not the current mail server seems to botch things -- do the following: 1. Address your email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not to any other address. Do not post your request to the list. 2. Be sure to mention the name of the list(s) you're on. With the current list management program, I have no way of telling without checking all 30-some lists -- and I don't have the time to do that. 3. Let me know exactly what address you are subscribed with. That's the address the postings or digest are being sent to. 4. Tell me exactly what needs to be done: switch me to digest mode, delete my old address and change my subscription to a new one, take me off your #%$#@% list, etc. 5. If I have to email you with questions, be sure to send all of the above information with your reply. I get hundreds of emails daily and dozens just to the listmom address. I will not remember the details -- make it easy so I don't have to ask for the details and wait for yet another email exchange. Things are moving very slowly on creating our own email program. I'm haven't been working at Low End Mac full-time in a year, and I've increased my hours at the camera shop to help offset the continuing drop in income from lowendmac.com. I've also got a second half-time job starting sometime in October, so we need to handle things efficiently. Also a reminder that we are offering lemlists.com email addresses to list subscribers for just $5 per year. Details at http://lemlists.com/email/index.php Dan the listmom -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Every day is payday in a labor of love. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Notes from the List Mom
Where's the List Mom been for the last week? Here, but due to our host moving to a new mail server, I've been unable to access my [EMAIL PROTECTED] email address with Claris Emailer. Since I have several scripts and macros for Emailer that I use with the lists and we've been unable to find a solution to the problem of accessing this mailbox from Emailer, I've switched addresses. Any future correspondence regarding subscriptions, posting problems, etc., should be sent to == [EMAIL PROTECTED] == instead of the old address. At least I can check this mailbox with Emailer. I've spent the last hour or so forwarding lists digests and listmom email to the lemlists account and hope to get through it all in the next few days. (I have to work at the camera store today, so I won't be able to get much done this morning.) I have not had the time to update the list footers; hope to find the time this weekend. I will update the published FAQ for all the lists with the morning site update. Email sent to the old listmom address should automatically forward to the new one. -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Please have your pet peeves spayed or neutered. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Tweaks to Compact Macs
I've adjusted the maximum digest size down a little bit so digests will come a bit more frequently -- closer to the daily schedule we'd hoped for. (The list server still refuses to send daily digests.) -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: EuroSwapList (was Re: what to do with old macs)
mart writes: What happened to the idea of setting op a Europe swapping list, to avoid paying 3 times more for shipping than for the item itself? Well, vintage_list nanny Mark Benson said earlier this week that he would email Dan about it. He asked for European subscribers to maul him off-list when interested, so that he could get an idea of the animo. It's definitely something we'll be able to do (if Mark finds there's enough interest) once we have our new list software put together. -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Please have your pet peeves spayed or neutered. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Calling all Net savvy users
Gamba writes: I can't help wondering if perhaps the hacker isn't someone you know, if your password was so clever. Bob F I was wondering about that. Doesn't PayPal use unigue username as well as password? No, PayPal uses your email address and a password. The email addy has to be public so people can send you money, making it that much simpler for someone to get into your account than if you had to use a secret ID. -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Every day is payday in a labor of love. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
lemlists.com progress
Just got an email from Ryan Coleman, the sysadmin for our lemlists.com domain. Ryan has set up a support forum at http://forum.lemlists.com/ for subscribers and will be checking it daily. As for moving the lists to lemlists.com, we're stuck right now -- can't seem to get the PHP imap_open function to open our test mailbox. But we're working on it -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Computers are like air conditioners; they don't work when you open windows. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Update on lemlists.com
Unless Apple changes their mind, mac.com email addresses are *not* going to be free after Sept. 30. I don't use enough iTools services to justify the $99/year Apple wants. All I use mac.com for is email. Ryan Coleman, of Coleman Web/Internet Services, and I are working on the details for setting up personal email accounts on lemlists.com. Because many of these lists are subsidized by ads, we will be keeping the cost of email addresses to $5 per year -- but we will only be offering lemlists.com addresses to people on one or more of our email lists. Signing up for a lemlists.com email account helps subsidize our cost of managing the server and overseeing the lists, so it very much helps out Low End Mac. The server is up and running, although there are no more details on the website http://lemlists.com/ than in this email. We'll probably set a maximum mailbox size of 5 MB, which is typical, and Ryan does a lot of work to prevent spammers from using the server, something I really appreciate as a one-time IS manager and email administrator (not to mention as someone who gets too much spam daily). If you are interested in singing up and haven't already contacted Ryan, please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do not reply to me or to the list. We hope to have things up and running in a few days. Dan Knight, listmom, publisher of Low End Mac -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
lemlists.com
Our monumentally huge project for the summer will be setting up a new domain (I just registered lemlists.com) for our email lists and creating our own software to manage subscriptions, process messages, etc. It's going to be a huge undertaking, and it's going to make things much better for all of us. One idea I've had for funding this is selling email addresses @lemlists.com for $5/year. The bulk of this would go toward running the server and paying for bandwidth, with a small percentage coming back to Low End Mac for administering the lists. We're working with Ryan Coleman of http://coleman-web.net/ to set this up. The goal is to set up a pretty spam resistant server that can be used as a POP3 mail server -- and for Web-based email as well. Best of all, if you're subscribed to any of our lists from a lemlists.com address, you'd never have to worry about AOL, mac.com, etc. going down or bouncing messages from the list, since they'll be on the same machine that handles the lists. We'd like to hear from any of you who might be interested in supporting the LEM lists and having a lemlists.com mailbox for $5.00 per year. This will help us determine the feasibility of the project, how much drive space we'll need, and whether Coleman Web will need to upgrade their Internet connection to allow for more bandwidth. If you're interested, DO NOT reply to the list and DO NOT reply to me. Send an email to Ryan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject lemlists.com. Whether we go through with mailboxes or not, we will be working with Coleman Web to set up the Low End Mac List Server in coming days. I'm guessing this project may take several months of programming and debugging to get things just right. I'll keep you posted. -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Bill Gates was so impressed by the iMac that they were going to offer the blue-screen-of-death in a choice of colours. ;-) -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Notes from Low End Mac
Hello, subscribers. It's July, and we'll soon begin work on a whole new setup for handling the email lists. No more unexpected did you really want to unsubscribe notices. A single full archive instead of two different ones. A web-based front end for managing your subscription. It's going to be a big project and make things a lot better. For the record, we don't run the current list server; maclaunch.com does. We have no control over the blacklist or many of the bounce messages. We will have full control over every aspect of the lists when we move to our new setup later this summer. We've just launched our new headline news service, Apple Quicklinks http://applequicklinks.com/, this morning. We hope to grow it to the point where it will rival MacSurfer. If you're interested in digital photography, I finally completed an article on picking the right digicam and posted it on Digigraphica over the weekend. http://digigraphica.com/pick/digital.html Site finances continue to be well below budget. We've posted our plea for support on Low End Mac today and remind those on the list that there is a completely voluntary $1 per list per year suggested donation. If sending funds via PayPal, please reference [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net I was to learn later in life that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganizing, and what a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress while producing confusion, inefficiency, and demoralization. -- Petronius -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Anti-Mac rant by Gary
Gary writes: Uh-huh. Because of the reason you were told yesterday. Twice. One of the first things you should learn when replying to email is how to distinguish between what you're quoting and what you're writing yourself. The above is a quote, but you don't mark it as a quote or attribute it to the pickle. It's because of attitudes like THIS, the fact that I STILL have NEVER gotten answers to my questions, that I am leaving these forums! I'm sorry that you feel that way. I agree that it's rude to simply answer a question, See the FAQ, without any explanation at all. I'd much rather see something like, No USB floppy drive can read the Mac's 800K floppies -- see the FAQ for more information. This would be especially helpful to those with limited Internet access -- or no Web access at all. I'd love to see a list of your questions that have never been answered, as well as know where you looked for answers before asking them on the list. PLUS!!.from what i hear see,running WINDOWS IS MUCH,MUCH,MUCH more efficient,in-expensive, PRACTICAL than APPLE!!! Seriously? You mean you can buy a nice little 286 PC for $10 including keyboard, mouse, and monitor, comfortably run it from a floppy disk or use Win95 from a hard drive (the Mac Plus will run System 7.5.5 from 1996), boost it to 4 MB of RAM without worrying about extended vs. expanded, and even have it network ready? A $10 Mac Plus is far more satisfactory than anything in the PC world of the same vintage. And the OS is free, unlike Windows APPLE 'puters (if you want to call them that) seem to be NOTHING more than plug-in PAPER WEIGHTS!! If that's the way you think, why in the world did you ever subscribe to an email list for those using the oldest of the old Macs -- users who find them far more than plug-in paperweights. I tried (but you people wouldn't let me) learn about these machines! Did you read Macs for Dummies? Did you visit a local Apple dealer who knows older Macs? Did you visit a local Macintosh Users Group? But then you sum up the whole thing beautifully: Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.362 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 5/7/2002 We don't need no stinking anti-virus software because only a few dozen viruses have ever been written for the Mac. No annual license fees. No monthly file updates. My Macs have been virus free since I got my first one over a decade ago. The few times I've tried anti-virus software, I've disabled it after a week or two because all it would find were Windows viruses sent by Windows worms that only infect Windows computers. If that's your world, you're welcome to it. I'll stick with my Macs. Dan Knight, president/\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Cobweb Publishing, Inc. \ / No HTML/RTF in email http://cobwebpublishing.com X No Word docs in email / \ Respect Open Standards! http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/9910/27.deb.shtml -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Huge FAQ update
the pickle writes: At 21:40 -0700 on 13/05/02, Brandon Davis wrote: Ah, thanks pickle (my particular pet peeve is broken links) ...that kind of stuff is appreciated: good job! Silly Apple broke all the TIL Archive links again. Instead of karchive.info.apple.com, they're now all at docs.info.apple.com ... grr. Do you sometimes get the feeling that Apple doesn't want the outside world linking to their online spec, TIL archive, etc.? They sure do like to move things around Dan Knight, president/\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Cobweb Publishing, Inc. \ / No HTML/RTF in email http://cobwebpublishing.com X No Word docs in email / \ Respect Open Standards! http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/9910/27.deb.shtml -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Attn: mac.com users
Macintouch: Apple 'secretly' filtering Mac.com mail by ron carlson, Insanely Great Mac May 9th 2002 Don Frakes and Bruce Giles, both of whom are list moms (those who administer mailing lists) for a number of Mac and PC-related mailing lists, have noted a disturbing problem with the Mac.com mail service provided to iTools Mac.com mail users -- Apple is secretly filtering their mail -- according to a story on Macintouch http://www.insanely-great.com/news.php?id=389 And also the postings on Macintouch that triggered this article: http://www.macintouch.com/applemailfiltering.html I suggest those who use mac.com read the whole article. While I appreciate the fact that my mac.com email is essentially spam free, it disturbs me to learn that Apple may be filtering for more than just spam. Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Life is too short to use anything but a Mac. -- Roger Ebert -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OT, neeed online offer for Macintosh Portable.
mac writes: I need an online sales page that has a Macintosh Portable for sale. Does not have to be really for sale, just an official looking thing with a price. It's to claim my money back from a postal company that 'lost' the Macintosh Portable I bought on ebay. Why not just a copy of the eBay page showing the closing price on this auction? Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Please have your pet peeves spayed or neutered. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... SPECIAL LIST PRICES - Replacement Apple CDROMs from $19.99, MacOS 8.5 CD $79.99 PPC 5400/200Mhz 16/1.6GB/CD/ENET/L2 $119, 5+ for $99 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Mom says Please vote
Twice a year we run a pair of surveys -- Best of the Mac Web and Rest of the Mac Web. The second survey covers 50 sites not included in the Best poll, and the best of these will move up to the Best survey in October. Rest of the Mac Web has a lot of good low-end sites like Mac512K, System 6 Heaven, the pickle's Low-end Mac FAQ, etc. I urge all of you to take a few minutes and share your opinion of the site's your familiar with -- and maybe discover some new ones. http://lowendmac.com/botmw/020326.html Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://lowendpc.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://reformed.net Please have your pet peeves spayed or neutered. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... PowerON Computer Services http://www.poweron.com REPLACEMENT PARTS in STOCK Drives, CD-ROMs, RAM, Mac OS SW, Power Supply mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Interesting abandonware issue...
Teresa Knezek writes: An Australian company distributes computers with old/unsupported MS operating systems installed... http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-6625142.html?tag=mn_hd OK, it's about Windows, but if some kind of legal decision is made here, or Microsoft buckles on the obsolete copyright issue, this could have big implications for out of date software on *any* platform... Not really -- Apple has always allowed free copying of Mac System 0.97 through 7.0.x, and has also made System 7.5.x available for free. For the latest on the Australia situation, see Insanely Great Mac: http://www.insanely-great.com/news/01/939.html Favorite quote from MS: They're breaking the law here. This is an issue about complying with Australian copyright law. Kids should have modern technology. [By distributing old PCs] We're really not providing kids with the tools they need for the digital age. The simple solution is donor organizations should donate their software licenses as well as their hardware. We don't think that's an unreasonable expectation. Or maybe the simple solution is used Macs ;-) Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. publisher, Low End Machttp://lowendmac.com/ publisher, Digital-Views.com http://digital-views.com/ publisher, Digigraphicahttp://digigraphica.com/ I like nonsense, it wakes up the brain cells. Fantasy is a necessary ingredient in living, it's a way of looking at life through the wrong end of a telescope and that enables you to laugh at life's realities. -- Dr. Seuss -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Save on Mac software -- Shop Software Outlet.com http://lowendmac.com/ad/software.outlet.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html 123Inkjets.com http://lowendmac.com/ad/123inkjets.html - - - - - Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
