Re: Moving to Google Groups
Do i have to use a google account to stay subscribed? It will not just let me sub my yahoo.com address. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New Low End Mac email lists
One decent use for gmail is using it to set up google groups, and then you can get those messages emailed to you in digest form. In Firefox I often have javascript disabled and the gmail interface works fine. I imagine if you were using a mac email client, you could just have those gmails forwarded to your client address. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: IIfx vs. IIsi ROMs for SE/30
Hi James I've fitted my se/30 with IIfx ROM and it works fine. I'm afraid I don't know what advantages there are in each case. best Mark --- James Mondor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday, September 13, 2005, at 11:36PM, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If one has the choice, which ROM (IIfx or IIsi) is more suitable for the transplant (from actual experience)? From what I have gathered from searching the list archives and checking out Gamba's site, is that either ROM will work, but I don't have a sense of which is more compatible. I read somewhere that someone had problems with the floppy drive when they used a IIfx ROM. Besides providing 32 bit clean code, what are the operational differences with using the different ROM? Thanks! Thomas Someone with more knowledge may correct me, but the IIfx has a seperate co-processor for almost everything and they were non-standard. Each FDD the machine is capable of using has its own co-processor. Maybe the ROM is hardwired to understand these and using it in a normal machine makes odd things happen. Take care. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- ___ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: REMOVE ME NOW!! IVE TRIED EVERYTHING!!!
On Aug 18, 2004, at 12:33 am, Antonio RodrÃguez wrote: I have tried to subscribe and unsubscribe from this list with my secondary mail address, and I have been able to do both (with the needed confirmations) in five minutes, so it seems like the list server is working right. Maybe you are having the same problem that sometimes has broken my head: MacLaunch's list server doesn't seem to like confirmation messages with something in the message body. So I would suggest to try this: reply the confirmation message clearing *completely* the message body (do not leave even a single space or line break) and disabling (if needed) your signature and the HTML format option. I can also confirm this problem has gotten other people on the past. Just strip the body out of the message and reduce the subject to *just* the confirmation number. Worked for me. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: LCD screen in a Color Classic?
On Aug 13, 2004, at 04:34 pm, Nathan Raymond wrote: My dream may yet come to fruition... A 33Mhz 68040 Color Classic with 128MB of RAM and 1MB VRAM for true color internal 640x480 video, and maybe even dual ethernet. I strongly suspect the video controller from the LC575 is the same as the LC475 (pizza box version) which doesn't support 24-bit true-colour video. FWIW my Mystic does most of the above (would do all if I added a bit of hardware) and all it's had done is a 575 board and VGA analogue board mod (done by our very own Mr. Bell :o) ). I added to that a 64MB SIMM, a Comm Slot Ethernet card and 4GB hard disk. Now a tidy OS 8.1 station. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Slow Boot Up with Apple Macintosh SE/30 with 128Mb
On Aug 15, 2004, at 03:47 pm, Stuart Bell wrote: On 15 Aug 2004, at 08:19, Liliana Pubill wrote: However is there any reason to really upgrade any compact mac to 128MB RAM? Don't you think that before you reach not even half of it the Mac might crash? ROTFL. Old Macs running a well-tuned 7.1 are as robust as anything 7.5 or 8.x or 9.x could offer. OTOH, I agree that 128Mb is overkill, except for the 'if it can be done, I want to do it' factor. Oi, I have a IIci with 7.1, and 128MB of RAM and a 9GB Fast/Wide SCSI hard disk that makes great use of those resources. Granted it's not an SE/30 and scanning photos on a flatbed scanner ain't exactly the sport of the compact mac (need slightly more than 2 colours ;o) ) but still it can be used of you are willing to go some. No extra RAM should ever be seen as overkill, it's just more living space. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Slow Boot Up with Apple Macintosh SE/30 with 128Mb
On Aug 15, 2004, at 06:14 pm, Mark Benson wrote: Oi, I have a IIci with 7.1, and 128MB of RAM and a 9GB Fast/Wide SCSI hard disk that makes great use of those resources. Granted it's not an SE/30 and scanning photos on a flatbed scanner ain't exactly the sport of the compact mac (need slightly more than 2 colours ;o) ) but still it can be used of you are willing to go some. No extra RAM should ever be seen as overkill, it's just more living space. Oh and for the record, yes they do take forever and a week top boot with that much RAM. I have 2 68ks with 128MB (the other is an 840av) and that also sits on a black screen for well over 2 minutes testing the RAM. doesn't bother me much I just go use my iMac or my G4 until it boots ;o) -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: floppy OS 7.5.3
On Aug 11, 2004, at 10:48 pm, Stuart Bell wrote: 7.1 has better Internet options but is not free for dowload for copyright reasons. 7.5.3 (as well as the 7.5.5 upgrade) is free for download but is rather bloated and slow for use on a stock CC. Your best bet may be having a look at Gamba's system software section at http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/index.html. Agreed IMHO 7.5.x sucks on a CC. 7.1 everytime for me, unless you put a 575 board in it. IMHO 7.5.x just sux, hands down. Out of all my 68ks non of them have 7.5.x on. I usually go from 7.1 (which oft involves futtering with Enablers - but it's worth it!) straight to 7.6.1. I'm becoming quite good at race tuning 7.1 to run like a much later OS. My uber-IIci has 7.1 and the Open Transport extensions, CPs and chooser from OS 8.1 on it, so it will do AFP over IP :oD. In addition to that it also has the 8.1 Appearance extensions. I love the 7.1 Monitors panel, I'll never forsake that one :o) -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: LCD screen in a Color Classic?
On Aug 11, 2004, at 08:55 am, Stuart Bell wrote: I've never tried to get VGA from anything but a beige G3 l/b - and Taco is awaiting me fiddling with a custom VGA cable that will avoid me taking the cable outside the machine! Electronically, a PDS video card would do that, but has the aesthetic issue which you rightly raise. One alternative for Mystics might be the Power_R_Presenter which clips onto the graphics chip on a 575 l/b. I actually have one (somewhere!), but never got round to trying it. There happens to be one on eBay at the moment, with a nice photo at: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItemcategory=4610item=5114475563 I'v always thought that this might be a neat approach to a Mystic/LCD CC. From my cruising of the VGA mod literature for CCs it seems clear to me that a conventional Mac video signal is passed from the logic board to the analogue board anyway. Could this not be tapped off at the end of the logic board somehow? -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: KVM Adapters
On Monday, August 09, 2004, at 08:30AM, Katzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AFAIK, the reason it's a bad idea to hot-swap ADB (and SCSI for that matter) is that if you don't pull/push evenly then some of the pins will be in contact and some will not-- causing a surge (or something). As long as you pull/push straight in/out you shouldn't have a problem... Hot-plugging ADB is officially frowned upon due to the fac tthe ADB cable carries a 5V current to power downstream devices, much like USB. However, where as USB plus are designed to be very well grounded and able to be hotplugged without crossing the contacts, ADB plugs are not. Every ADB MAc from the SE/30 onwards (I think - I can't remember for sure) has a thermally resetting fuse on the 5V line of the ADB port to prevent damage to the logic board from shorts etc.at any point along the ADB cable. I have hot-plugged ADB devices no end of times (I have one keyobard that the mouse plug keeps falling out of for example) and have never yet shorted it, the biggest risk is from leaving ADB cables lying loose around the desk while tha machine is running, as any stray metal objects could come into contact with the pins. SCSI is another matter. You should NEVER hotplug SCSI devices while the machine is running, nor should you turn external devices on and off. While it can be done it has a large ptoential to damage the Mac's SCSI controller chip and the device being hot-plugged. Hot-plug hardware does exist (cable mentioned on previous post) both for desktop and server use. However only hot-plug stuff should be hot-plugged. And that's why the KMV works-- it's a switch that engages/disengages all the connectors at the same time. The KVM probably asctually stops the current, grounds the device to discharge any static or residual current, then switches it to another device, then switches the current back on. -- Mark Benson http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: KVM Adapters
On Aug 9, 2004, at 01:18 pm, Peter da Silva wrote: The KVM probably asctually stops the current, grounds the device to discharge any static or residual current, then switches it to another device, then switches the current back on. The question is, then, would the S-Video switch boxes do this? I'd hazard a guess at not but I dunno for sure. As S-Video carries no live line current, only low level signal current it is less likely, as there is a massively reduced chance of damage. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: interesting question
On Jul 28, 2004, at 08:08 pm, Sean Billings wrote: Also the mount command from the terminal will show volumes are mapped to what devices. I can't test any of this because I don't have a floppy drive on my OS X machine, but I would place a formatted mac disk into the drive take note of the device name using mount and then umount (via the terminal and not by ejecting it) the device, if the OS doesn't eject the disk you should then be able to dd the file (you may need to sudo). IIRC you can restore a drive from an image in disk utility in OS X 10.2 or later. I think OS X reads most Mac disk images so that might be a way to do it. It would also work if you don't have a raw image file. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: interesting question
On Jul 27, 2004, at 02:27 am, Jason Fossella wrote: Thanks everyone for the suggestions. I've just tried writing a rawrite image with dd to a floppy- no go. Basilisk II can't see the floppy drive, because it's attached to the USB port, so that's also out. How did you go about trying to write to the floppy using dd? If you a re using OS X the /dev name may not be a standard one (it's always /dev/fd0 on a Linux PC) as OS X doesn't specifically recognise it as a floppy disk drive (because it doesn't support them). If you open the 'Disk Utility' in /Applications/Utilities and put in a usable floppy (Mac or PC) it will mount and tell you what device name it is assigned to in the info panel at the bottom of the Disk Utility window. I'm afraid I'm going to have to try to find someone with an older Mac and create the disk on their machine. Perhaps this is an excuse to buy another vintage Mac :) For emergencies like this a Mac Classic is useful (not 2 things that often fall into the same sentence ;o) ) - it has System 6.0.3 in the ROM so you can boot it without a useable disk, thus you can boot it and format a disk even without a disk to boot from. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: 7.1 install disc image for CC
On Jul 9, 2004, at 07:53 am, Stuart Bell wrote: OK, Since my request about how to create an Install (1) floppy with 7.1 for a Colour Classic from a standard 7.1 floppy brought no response, let's be more direct! Has anyone got a genuine CC 7.1 Install floppy, from which they'd be willing to create an image and send it to me, please? Since I have 16+ CCs sitting here, and all came with 7.1, it's only breaking the letter, not the spirit, of copyright law! Have you tried just lobbing the enabler on the floppy, rather than putting it all in a folder. I have done this on an LC 475 before but I'm hanged if I can remember how! This is why I have a bootable MO disks with all my OS versions on -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: 7.1 install disc image for CC
On Jul 9, 2004, at 04:29 pm, Stuart Bell wrote: On 9 Jul 2004, at 08:18, Mark Benson wrote: Have you tried just lobbing the enabler on the floppy, rather than putting it all in a folder. I have done this on an LC 475 before but I'm hanged if I can remember how! Sincere thanks to all who tried to help me. Congratulations to Mark, who came up with the most counter-intuitive solution, but the one that worked. I simply copied the 401 System Enabler onto the standard 7.1 Install disc, ignoring the fact that there's no System Folder, and that the System file is at the top level of the directory, and Robert is your aunt's husband. The jam with this is the disk *IS* the system folder. In essence a legacy Mac will boot from any volume that contains an appropriate 'System' and 'Finder'. The disk is then automatically blessed and the designated location of the System folder becomes whatever the container for the System and Finder files is. It *does not* have to be a folder, as far as I can tell, it is just done that way on most disks in order to keep things tidy, however there is very little space on the 7.1 install floppy and contrary to what most people would have you believe folders do occupy a tin amount of space in the file volume, especially on a Mac as they can have an associated resource fork. There I go waffling again. If any of that is utter hogwash just send me a notional slap around the ear by e-mail and I'll be sure to mend my ways... -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Manuals, Service Manuals and schematics
On Jul 1, 2004, at 11:01 pm, Dr.O.M.Betz wrote: Hi All I am new in mac word, and i am collecting some here in brazil. Hi Mattos, welcome to the list and congrats to your collection. Maybe I can be of some help regarding manuals, and as Apple's lawyers sometimes get picky about their stuff I'll get to you offlist. Unfortunately one of the best sites for manuals etc, archaic-apples, is down at the moment; but you'll find a lot of extremely useful stuff at Gamba's place (http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/index.html), the pickle's compacts FAQ (http://macfaq.org/index.shtml) and Jag's site (http://www.jagshouse.com). List users are reminded that Apple's manuals are copyright. In addition to this LowEndMac does not advocate the unlawful distribution of Apple Service Source manuals in any way. We would greatly appreciate it if requests for manuals were kept off the list completely, as it exposes the lists, and LowEndMac to possibly legal infringement and the subsequent liturgy that entails... Thanks -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Upping the HD in an SE
On May 30, 2004, at 08:43 am, Katzy wrote: A little while ago I tried upgrading the HD in my SE from the 20Meg I got it with- to a 500Meg drive I had sitting around. I got the little guy apart OK, but when I tried putting in the new drive I realized that the mounting holes in the drive didn't match the ones in the bracket (it was off by a couple of mm). Weird, they should line up just fine. Check you aren't doing something daft like mounting the drive the wrong way around or something. All holes on 3.5 hard disks are all standardised, and thus any drive should fit any mounting, and if it doesn't it's due to bad manufacturing on the part of the hard disk manufacturer. I for one have mounted no end of different drives in an SE/30 without issues. Tell us what make the drive is and the model and maybe someone might be the wiser about it... -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: small high-RAM Macs (was: sad day)
On May 19, 2004, at 02:15 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 840avs are wasted running UNIX as they have a lot of AV stuff that is Mac OS specific (unless someone has developed a DSP interface for it for NetBSD??) If you want a big box 68k server you are better off with a 950 or an 800. Granted the CPU is slower but I hate to see good AV features go to waste :-) True. I doubt many people are still using the AV Quadras for AV, though the guy I got mine from was ripping his vinyl with it. For me, it would probably only boot Unix when I wanted to compile something for my other machines. ;) (Doesn't everyone keep multiple single-purpose machines around?) The rest of the time it would be for playing my classic Mac games, like Marathon. 8) Oh yeah...Marathon... Specially accelerated version is available for the 660/840av I seem to remember :) When it comes to using that DSP there is more than one way to skin a cat! I decided UNIX on All-In-One Macs is a bad idea becuase you can't turn the CRT off - thus the power draw is large. I had BSD running on my Mystic CC for a while but eventually gave up on that idea as it sat un-interacted with for ages at a time and I was scared I'd burn the screen in. Remember the brightness control in the CC is software controlled, and as far as I know there is no control to either turn it down or deactivate the screen in NetBSD. Mostly such a machine would just be my luggable hey lookit what I did showpiece. Right now I'm using the SE/30, but I hate unhooking my primary server in order to give a presentation. And color is nicer. And with a screen mod, my friends could use it to play Marathon against me. Tim -- Tim Larson 402.998.3233 Systems Analyst Web Center of Excellence mail stop 7350-140 ConAgra Foods, Inc., Corporate Division -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/ compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: small high-RAM Macs (was: sad day)
ARRGHH sorry - first thing in the morning syndrome :S On May 19, 2004, at 02:15 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 840avs are wasted running UNIX as they have a lot of AV stuff that is Mac OS specific (unless someone has developed a DSP interface for it for NetBSD??) If you want a big box 68k server you are better off with a 950 or an 800. Granted the CPU is slower but I hate to see good AV features go to waste :-) True. I doubt many people are still using the AV Quadras for AV, though the guy I got mine from was ripping his vinyl with it. I use mine for AV because I'm poor and can't afford a FireWire video camera. It does a pretty good job and turns out stuff I can easily throw into iMovie, edit, then pack up as MPG and use for general consumption. A Spigot PAV card, ATTO Silicon Express IV and a 15GB 10,000 rpm hard disk do help it along tho :) For me, it would probably only boot Unix when I wanted to compile something for my other machines. ;) Wouldn't know how to do that - if I don't compile it on the target machine I'm pretty lost! Anyway that's something for another list... Are you on the NetBSD-mac68k list Tim? (Doesn't everyone keep multiple single-purpose machines around?) With 68ks that's pretty much all you can do. I have the 840av for, well, AV, a 7100 (not a 68k but close) for burning classic HFS CDs (easier than using Toast 5 in OS X), a Performa 600 that runs my Rocket/33, and a IIci (with a 40MHz Turbo 040) that runs my scanner and photoshop 4 via a Radius Thunder IV GX. My NetBSD box is a Modified LC475 'Siamese' LC with a full 040/25 and NIC, with 3 hard disk bays :-) The rest of the time it would be for playing my classic Mac games, like Marathon. 8) Oh yeah...Marathon... Specially accelerated version is available for the 660/840av I seem to remember :) When it comes to using that DSP there is more than one way to skin a cat. :-) I decided UNIX on All-In-One Macs is a bad idea becuase you can't turn the CRT off - thus the power draw is large. I had BSD running on my Mystic CC for a while but eventually gave up on that idea as it sat un-interacted with for ages at a time and I was scared I'd burn the screen in. Remember the brightness control in the CC is software controlled, and as far as I know there is no control to either turn it down or deactivate the screen in NetBSD. Mostly such a machine would just be my luggable hey lookit what I did showpiece. I have little need for such a thing - sadly - as there is no MUG locally that I can meet up with. That said, if I find a semi-local one I can go to the meetings now I have car :-) Right now I'm using the SE/30, but I hate unhooking my primary server in order to give a presentation. I have a 9600/G3 for that ;-) And color is nicer. And with a screen mod, my friends could use it to play Marathon against me. Hehe - the days when you didn't need broadband to have a decent MP bash :( -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: small high-RAM Macs (was: sad day)
On May 18, 2004, at 11:10 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heh heh. :) Just before my last move, I had to throw out my first Mac - a C650. It's physically a little larger than the SE/30. And I'd have to trick it into booting without a monitor, I think. Upgrading a Q605 with a full 040 would be the same thing in about the perfect case. I thought all the Quadras had built-in AAUI ethernet though. All except the 605 - more is the pity! The LC475 case is slimmer than the Q605 - and stood on edge it'll happily sit in small places. I used to have one stuffed in a desk drawer with no lid running MacHTTP and MacDNS and it ran forever. Part of the attraction of the SE/30 (for NetBSD) is that it is kind of neat to run a modern OS on what is essentially the lowest-end Mac capable of it. (Other 16MHz Macs are inferior for other design reasons - but still it's only a 16MHz 030.) And I keep hoping I'll find a CC to Takky. :) I decided UNIX on All-In-One Macs is a bad idea becuase you can't turn the CRT off - thus the power draw is large. I had BSD running on my Mystic CC for a while but eventually gave up on that idea as it sat un-interacted with for ages at a time and I was scared I'd burn the screen in. Remember the brightness control in the CC is software controlled, and as far as I know there is no control to either turn it down or deactivate the screen in NetBSD. I did find a recent reference of a guy in Japan running a Daystar 040 in his SE/30, so I guess it does work! Give it a shot; NetBSD is cool. I'm hoping to get it up on my Q840AV soon - just to have both ends of the 68k spectrum. 840avs are wasted running UNIX as they have a lot of AV stuff that is Mac OS specific (unless someone has developed a DSP interface for it for NetBSD??) If you want a big box 68k server you are better off with a 950 or an 800. Granted the CPU is slower but I hate to see good AV features go to waste :-) Any way to know if my SIMMs are 70 or 80 ns? On each individual chip on the SIMM there should be a number. That will end in '8', '-8' or '80' if they are 80ns or '7', '-7' or '70' if they are 70ns. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: sad day (RE: can't boot with diimo)
On May 17, 2004, at 02:55 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The DiiMO proved to be unstable in the SE/30. :( It worked well in the IIsi I pulled it from. Maybe I have slow RAM or something. It would create video artifacts and eventually lock the machine (under MacOS) or cause some sort of kernel trap exception (under NetBSD). Some rather unscientific (bogomips) benchmarks would vary wildly, between 1.5 and 20. Sounds to me like it was overheating. Dunno what to suggest as an idea - but it probably needs cooling with a fan of some sort - if it sticks vertically in the PDS slot it is out of the airflow path in the case (unlike Daystar's CPU socket accelerator). If you can find an old 486 CPU fan you can maybe rig it some ventilation by taking power from the hard disk power lead. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: sad day (RE: can't boot with diimo)
On May 18, 2004, at 03:07 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The DiiMO proved to be unstable in the SE/30. :( It worked well in the IIsi I pulled it from. Maybe I have slow RAM or something. It would create video artifacts and eventually lock the machine (under MacOS) or cause some sort of kernel trap exception (under NetBSD). Some rather unscientific (bogomips) benchmarks would vary wildly, between 1.5 and 20. Sounds to me like it was overheating. Dunno what to suggest as an idea - but it probably needs cooling with a fan of some sort - if it sticks vertically in the PDS slot it is out of the airflow path in the case It sits horizontally about 1cm above the (7200 rpm) HD. If that is where I think it is then it's still out of the airflow AND the hard disk will be heating everything around it up a lot. 7200rpm drives get very hot and anything in the surrounding area also heats up as a result. (unlike Daystar's CPU socket accelerator). If you can find an old 486 CPU fan you can maybe rig it some ventilation by taking power from the hard disk power lead. I should be able to test the theory by running with the case off in a well-ventilated room. Remove the hard disk and stick it on extended cables away from the system and test, then put it back and test with the case off. If the former works but the latter doesn't you have your culprit. If neither works try using a small fan to blow air out of the machine over the CPU with the case off also, and then again without the hard disk present. If non work you can safely rule out overheating. Do I have to worry about power consumption by putting an extra fan in there? Not if you get a tiddly little 3cm heatsink fan - they barely draw any significant current. Speaking of heatsinks - does the CPU have one? I have Powercache 030/50 that has no H/S and that got too hot really for my liking. Kinda moot now as the SE/30 board it was on died and i don't have another socketed board :(. Anyhoo - do everything you can to keep the CPU cool and see if it changes the situation. The benchmarks, lockups and slowdowns all point to overheating IMHO. I was pretty excited when I found this card. I'm going to be bummed if I can't figure some way to use it. :( Don't despair. You know the card works in a IIsi so it's not all bad. Just need to persevere! -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: sad day (RE: can't boot with diimo)
On May 18, 2004, at 05:19 pm, J.S. Garrison wrote: I'm running a Diimo 68030/50 in a IIci. It does a good job of pepping it up without the problems you're describing. The airflow in a IIsi and IIci are dramatically better than the SE/30 - especially as the SE/30's fan is on the opposite side of the case to the expansion slot. The thread's lost to me but if you're using the right adapter and it has the FPU removed, then you should not have the problems you're having, and should not need any circulation of air. 50MHz 68030s get really very hot - as hot if not hotter than 40MHz 040s. Having applied a coat of thinking since my last post I think it's possibly in about the worst place foe ventilation in the SE/30 as it's close to the tube (one of the biggest heat generators in there), the hard disk (which is 7200rpm and alsolikely gets really hot) and away out of the main airflow - which run in at front/bottom, along the logic board, and up the back of the drive bays, then out of the fan via the analogue board. I must admit I've had the best luck in acceleration on SE/30's by using a Daystar 040. That, too comes with it's own brand of trials and tribs but the experience is a kick. CPU on that card has a heatsink. I dunno how the PDS adapter is the card height-wise but my guess is the airflow up the expansion area isn't that bad to about halfway up the case, after that it will start to shift away to the other side where the fan is. Two bottlenecks occur in the case of acceleration. The hard drive and the RAM. Maybe go at it from these angles, first? The Hard Drive is 7200rpm according to Tim, and so outstrips the SCSI bus by several magnitudes. Slow (read 80ns) RAM could be a problem however on a card that fast. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: small high-RAM Macs (was: sad day)
On May 18, 2004, at 05:18 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If only some other smallish 68k Mac had a 128MB RAM ceiling, I'd definitely be using it. All I have to say is LC475/Q605 :) - one of those with a NIC and a full 040 makes a perfect NetBSD Box. Only thing to watch is the PSU won't always power faster SCSI drives as the power draw is too high. The thread's lost to me but if you're using the right adapter and it has the FPU removed, then you should not have the problems you're having, and should not need any circulation of air. It does have the FPU, which is one of the big perks for using it at all. The SE/30 is my web server, running NetBSD. And until recently, NetBSD required an FPU because the software emulation wasn't very good. Thanks to an Amiga 1200 in a rackmount it's now no longer a crippling disease :) If that's what I had, I'd give it a try. Though I've heard that NetBSD had some issues with 040 accelerators in 030 machines. Maybe that's been resolved. I'd like to know if it has as I kinda fancied running it on my IIci, which has a Turbo040/40. Two bottlenecks occur in the case of acceleration. The hard drive and the RAM. Maybe go at it from these angles, first? I thought about that possibility, but think it unlikely. The drive is a 7200 rpm 9GB. The RAM is all 4MB and 16MB SIMMs, which probably means it is 80ns or better. I think it was just the 256kB-2MB SIMMs that came in the slower 100ns and 120ns speeds. At that sort of speeds I'd only settle for 70ns to be on the safe side, but I can't really see 80ns being that bigger problem (just contradicted my previous post - DOH!!). -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Locked HD
Hello, Just wanted to know if anyone has heard of a locked hard drive. I just had a new hard drive installed on my classic II. System 7.1 was installed on it, but it will not let me install anything else. It keeps giving Macintosh HD is locked. Any suggestions? Help! Mark Beadle -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Help Locked HD
Beadle Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Just wanted to know if anyone has heard of a locked hard drive. I just had a new hard drive installed on my classic II. System 7.1 was installed on it, but it will not let me install anything else. It keeps giving Macintosh HD is locked. Any suggestions? Help! Mark Beadle -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: [Re:
Hello, Thanks for the reply. I tried some of your suggestions. However, the computer is not letting me do anything with the hard drive. It will not allow me delete anything or allow me to move anything around on the hard drive. And it will not accept reinstalling the system software... it repeats the same message on all actions hard drive is locked. I can open and use the programs that are already installed, but that seems to be it. Any more ideas? Thanks again. Mark J.S. Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 4/30/04 2:12 PM, Beadle Mark at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Just wanted to know if anyone has heard of a locked hard drive. I just had a new hard drive installed on my classic II. System 7.1 was installed on it, but it will not let me install anything else. It keeps giving Macintosh HD is locked. Any suggestions? Help! Mark Beadle Yes. Very common. It may be a setting in General Controls control panel. If so, just un-protect the disk and you'reready to go. If it's At Ease or another security-providing software, the only answer I've found that works is to boot with another disk, a floppy for example, remove the security program's preferences and extensions/control panels and set them aside in the drive but out of System Folder and see if it reboots. Some programs alter the System File. If that's your case, then replacing the System and maybe the finder files can be your only alternative short of wiping and reinstalling everything. Jeff G -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: [Re: [Re: ]
Hello, Thanks for the suggestions. I did try starting the computer up with disk tools, but no luck. I couldn't reformat either because for some reason, I think because I had a non apple hard drive installed, the Apple HD setup would not recognize the hard drive. The tech company that installed the hard drive for me was able to install system 7.1. But now for some reason the drive has become write protected and I can't seem to figure out how to undo it. . . . and neither can the tech who installed the hard drive. Thanks for your help. Mark John-Robert La Porta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What Jeff was referring to was starting the computer up from a system disk (floppy or CD) and try then. I'm not sure if you were trying to say you have done this or not. If it STILL isnt working, try reformatting from the startup disk. If it still says its locked..beats me. On Apr 30, 2004, at 7:11 PM, Beadle Mark wrote: Hello, Thanks for the reply. I tried some of your suggestions. However, the computer is not letting me do anything with the hard drive. It will not allow me delete anything or allow me to move anything around on the hard drive. And it will not accept reinstalling the system software... it repeats the same message on all actions hard drive is locked. I can open and use the programs that are already installed, but that seems to be it. Any more ideas? Thanks again. Mark J.S. Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 4/30/04 2:12 PM, Beadle Mark at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Just wanted to know if anyone has heard of a locked hard drive. I just had a new hard drive installed on my classic II. System 7.1 was installed on it, but it will not let me install anything else. It keeps giving Macintosh HD is locked. Any suggestions? Help! Mark Beadle Yes. Very common. It may be a setting in General Controls control panel. If so, just un-protect the disk and you'reready to go. If it's At Ease or another security-providing software, the only answer I've found that works is to boot with another disk, a floppy for example, remove the security program's preferences and extensions/control panels and set them aside in the drive but out of System Folder and see if it reboots. Some programs alter the System File. If that's your case, then replacing the System and maybe the finder files can be your only alternative short of wiping and reinstalling everything. Jeff G An Apple a day keeps the PCs away. - John-Robert La Porta -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Help with Write Protected Hard drive
Beadle Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Thanks for the suggestions. I did try starting the computer up with disk tools, but no luck. I couldn't reformat either because for some reason, I think because I had a non apple hard drive installed, the Apple HD setup would not recognize the hard drive. The tech company that installed the hard drive for me was able to install system 7.1. But now for some reason the drive has become write protected and I can't seem to figure out how to undo it. . . . and neither can the tech who installed the hard drive. Thanks for your help. Mark John-Robert La Porta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What Jeff was referring to was starting the computer up from a system disk (floppy or CD) and try then. I'm not sure if you were trying to say you have done this or not. If it STILL isnt working, try reformatting from the startup disk. If it still says its locked..beats me. On Apr 30, 2004, at 7:11 PM, Beadle Mark wrote: Hello, Thanks for the reply. I tried some of your suggestions. However, the computer is not letting me do anything with the hard drive. It will not allow me delete anything or allow me to move anything around on the hard drive. And it will not accept reinstalling the system software... it repeats the same message on all actions hard drive is locked. I can open and use the programs that are already installed, but that seems to be it. Any more ideas? Thanks again. Mark J.S. Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 4/30/04 2:12 PM, Beadle Mark at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Just wanted to know if anyone has heard of a locked hard drive. I just had a new hard drive installed on my classic II. System 7.1 was installed on it, but it will not let me install anything else. It keeps giving Macintosh HD is locked. Any suggestions? Help! Mark Beadle Yes. Very common. It may be a setting in General Controls control panel. If so, just un-protect the disk and you'reready to go. If it's At Ease or another security-providing software, the only answer I've found that works is to boot with another disk, a floppy for example, remove the security program's preferences and extensions/control panels and set them aside in the drive but out of System Folder and see if it reboots. Some programs alter the System File. If that's your case, then replacing the System and maybe the finder files can be your only alternative short of wiping and reinstalling everything. Jeff G An Apple a day keeps the PCs away. - John-Robert La Porta -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Yes, it is way off this list.....
On Apr 26, 2004, at 04:27 pm, Phil Hosie wrote: Hi all, As well as my almost complete collection of compacts - I splurged and got a 1990 clamshell 366 ibook! Can anyone help to steer me into a list like this oneI have some questions that need some answersta G-Books list here: http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html Covers all G3/G4 iBook Powerbook machines. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: 256 colors at 72Hz, thousands at 60Hz
On Apr 23, 2004, at 05:48 pm, Ken wrote: My Reply follows quote. On 23/04/2004 09:04 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: To make a long story short, on my Mac I can have thousands of colors if I use a 60Hz refresh rate, but only 256 colors if I use a 72Hz refresh rate. Why is this, and can I make any modifications that would allow me to use both thousands of colors at the higher refresh rate? Greg - It would seem that with the amount of video RAM on your Mac, coupled with the ability of the video system to redraw the screen are evident limitations. It would take more horsepower to redraw a given screen faster. If the screen has greater depth (thousands compared to 256) it will take even more horsepower. The limiting factor as far as Macs go is that you need more VRAM space to page the screens to if you run at higher refresh rates. Think about the refresh rate as 'screens per second' and in a given time frame you have to store more pixel information in the VRAM. Thus larger pages (as Thousands of colours is) take up more space per second. Therefore at one instance it can store less thousands pages than 256 colour ones. Depending on your machine, you might be able to add VRAM chips (Color Classic?). Don't know which compacts have adequate expansion capabilities to add in a faster video processor, but that might be another option. Ken -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/ compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: 256 colors at 72Hz, thousands at 60Hz
On Apr 26, 2004, at 07:56 am, Stuart Bell wrote: I think the problem here is that Mark tried to simplify the issue in non-technical language, but that in doing so, appeared to be involving pages of VRAM, which aren't used, AFAIK, in early Macs. No, the problem is I wrote it at 7:45am on a Monday... Ahh what the hell do I know anyway... -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: [Re: [Re: classic II hard drive not recognized]]
Luke, Thanks for the help. I did hear the drive spin up on start up. No, I didn't get to see it work at the shop. I'm going to try Lido after I get a copy of it. Unfortunately, I don't have a mac that I use to get on line to download a copy of Lido. I think I'll make a run down to Kinkos and use one of their macs to download a copy of Lido and Apple HD SC Setup (patched). I'll let you know how it turns out. I want to try out any options I can before returning to the shop. Thanks again for all your advice. Mark Luke Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day Mark, Do you hear the drive spin-up when you power-up? Do you see it flash a drive-access when you power-up? Did you see it working at the Mac shop? If they had it working and you get home and it isn't, then yeah, my first reaction is that the drive doesn't have the terminator resistors enabled (or maybe they don't exist, if the drive came from a RAID array). They probably had it on a SCSI cable that chained it into an existing system. They can then copy a system on and select it as an alternate Boot device and all is well. Which is fine - until you try to boot standalone and it's no longer terminated. From 12,000 miles away, my diagnosis is: A) get the drive onto a cable that has its own terminator, or B) get the drive itself configured to terminate the bus. If the above turns out to be true, I think it would be fair to say that a red face might be warranted from the guy who installed it and handed it back to a customer without a standalone test :-) Luke -Original Message- From: Compact Macs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Beadle Mark Sent: Sunday, 25 April 2004 11:47 AM To: Compact Macs Subject: Re: [Re: classic II hard drive not recognized] Luke, Thanks for the quick reply. I took the classic II to a mac repair shop to have the drive installed. They claimed that they had it working and installed 7.1 on it. However, as soon as I got it home and powered it up all I got was the floppy with flashing ?. I tried the disk tools and I tried to install system 7 on it and in both cases the message was no scsi device recognized. I'll try to call the tech shop back, but they will not open again until Monday. I also wanted to try to get informed about the problem and possible solutions myself. Thanks. Mark Beadle -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
classic II hard drive not recognized
Hello, I recently had a new hard drive put on my classic II. It was a larger non apple drive (1gb ibm drive). Now when the computer starts up, I only get the floppy icon with flashing ?. It will proceed to start up with use of disk tools, but then states that it can't find scsi device. Any suggestions? Thanks. Mark Beadle -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: [Re: classic II hard drive not recognized]
Luke, Thanks for the quick reply. I took the classic II to a mac repair shop to have the drive installed. They claimed that they had it working and installed 7.1 on it. However, as soon as I got it home and powered it up all I got was the floppy with flashing ?. I tried the disk tools and I tried to install system 7 on it and in both cases the message was no scsi device recognized. I'll try to call the tech shop back, but they will not open again until Monday. I also wanted to try to get informed about the problem and possible solutions myself. Thanks. Mark Beadle Luke Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you run LIDO or Apple HD SC Setup (patched) do they see the disk when they scan the bus? If they don't then you'd probably got SCSI termination problems. Has this new HD ever worked in the Mac? If you just plugged it in, it will need to be formatted by something that will accept the NON-Apple drive. Luke -Original Message- From: Compact Macs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Beadle Mark Sent: Sunday, 25 April 2004 11:02 AM To: Compact Macs Subject: classic II hard drive not recognized Hello, I recently had a new hard drive put on my classic II. It was a larger non apple drive (1gb ibm drive). Now when the computer starts up, I only get the floppy icon with flashing ?. It will proceed to start up with use of disk tools, but then states that it can't find scsi device. Any suggestions? Thanks. Mark Beadle -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: SE/30 and 1Gig drive
On Wednesday, March 17, 2004, at 10:03AM, Stuart Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should be OK - drives tended to draw less power as they got larger - within limits - as the technology improved. I've run 2Gb drives in compacts with no problems. It actually varies a lot more than that. As faster spindle speeds came in power requirement for spin-up peaked then slowly levelled off again. For example I have a 3.5 Seagate 4GB 7200rpm SCSI-2 drive that works fine in most machines, but won't work in an LC475 due to lack of power. Similarly early 10krpm drives demand a lot of startup power, but later ones do not. All a bit involved. I've never had any trouble with supply in all-in-one macs, but in some Apple 68k desktops it is an issue with certain drives. -- Mark Benson http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: LaserWriter part
Hi Ben I don't have a source for the part, but I think I had a similar problem on my IIntx which I solved by wrapping an elastic band around the foot in question. I've had no problem since. Hope this helps. regards Mark --- Benjamin Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this is once removed, especially since there is no peripherals list. I've been looking for a pickup roller for a LaserWriter IInt for some time now. Thats the rubber foot that pulls the paper out of the tray. But I haven't found a source that doesn't want $20 for the darn thing. Anyone here know a good place to get one? Ben -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- ___ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: UK source for a long-handled T15?
Hi Ian I had the same problem a few years ago. I bought one of the standard Torx screwdrivers and attacked the handle with a hacksaw. After a little while, I succeeded in sawing off enough of the handle (lengthwise) that it could fit into the gap. I've used it successfully many times since. Cheap and nasty, I know, but it does work. regards Mark --- Stuart Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17 Mar 2004, at 15:23, Ian McCall wrote: May sound like a trivial question but... Anyone found a source in the UK for getting the necessary long-handled T15? The only one I've found that looks vaguely right is a Draper tool for £4.99, but it seems to have quite a thick blade before the Torx attachement and I'm not at all sure that it would reach to the bottom/ Any clues? Sounds daft I know, but without one of these I can't really go ahead with any of my SE/30 upgrade plans. See http://www.macfaq.org/hardware/torx.shtml Failing that, I have been known to lend them out - contact me off list. Stuart -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- ___ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: We have no green light....
On Mar 1, 2004, at 10:21 pm, Graham Cox wrote: LEDs almost never burn out - unless you stick an AA battery across them, that is ;-) I don't recommend this. Though an LED has a voltage drop of about 1.2V (at least red and green ones do), and this is close to an AA battery's output, without current limiting it would be very easy to burn out the LED even if the battery has only a small amount of excess voltage. You MUST have a limiting resistor in there. I can confirm Apple's button board has a limiting resistor in series with the LED (little black dooder at the top of the board above the LED). Still does explain why it doesn't work, in fact it only makes matters more weird... Anyone know the board's pinout and feed voltages? -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: We have no green light....
On Mar 3, 2004, at 09:08 pm, J.S. Garrison wrote: Anyone know the board's pinout and feed voltages? Check the Mac Gurus site? Any more details? -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: We have no green light....
Erm. Well I replaced the button board and it's not that. Still no LED. Nothing seems to have come apart or anything. connector seems to fit on firmly. I'm lost. Speaking of lost I also lost the sound when I took it apart to replace the board. I found that one of the gold strips is missing. It's 12th in from the right hand edge of the shorter connector when the board is upside down. I think it's likely one of the two sound signal lines. Pretty much a me not being careful. Looks like a new board job to me. If anyone in the *UK* knows where I can get one at a reasonable price do let me know. It's an LC575 board. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: We have no green light....
On Mar 1, 2004, at 09:31 pm, Joshua Coombs wrote: Might be as simple as a bad/burnt out LED. Use a AA battery with some paperclips as test leads, and with the module unplugged, see if you can get the LED to light by putting power to it directly. It'll only work with the polarity in the right direction, so if it fails to light on your first try, flip the battery around. If it still fails to light, you've found your problem. PC Modders would recomend a nice bright blue replacement LED... : ) I'm on my 2nd Button Board. Stuart reliably informs me they nearly never fail. I am a bit reserved about testing the LED as I'm prone to overpowering the little dooders, and if I blow it it's another one down the pan. I find it odd that two should be dud, especially as one was in this machine (UK) and I imported the other form the US! -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: System software?
On Feb 26, 2004, at 12:47 am, Darren wrote: OS8.1 is less than suited to many 68k machines. Apart from eye candy and compatibility for some programs you might wont what has it got for a 68k mac? Open Transport that works properly (well better than 7.x anyway) with Mac OS X. A Finder that has many useful non-eye candy features like Spring Loaded Folders. Contextual menus that work right and have more features. It's generally a departure from the borky, kludged world of 7.x and a fresh(er) start. I have 3 machines running 8.1, 1 601 (7100/80) and 2 68040s. Both CPU types are equally as fast. I have no problems with them being slow at all. My Mystic CC (hears Stuart shout 'HARRAH SOMETHING ON TOPIC!') runs 8.1 really well on it's dinky little 640x480 screen. My idea of fast is not the same as others I guess, but I can't really say 8.1 is sluggish, or I wouldn't use it. Consider this if you will. All my 8.1 machines have these vital things. 1. Large hard disks (18.6GB, 4GB, 5GB) that more or less require HFS+ - thus I have lots of room for the bloat. 2. Lots of RAM (128MB, 68MB and 96MB) 3. Regular use. You seem to assume that '68k' implies automatically a lack of RAM and a small hard disk. This is not true in my case. I run 7.1 or 7.6 on stuff with a small drive and less RAM. Well upgraded and equipped, fast 68040 machines, and 601s, are more than capable of coping with 8.1, so why not? Plus I don't own a copy of 8.6, or even have a copy of a copy. YMMV -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: System software?
On Wednesday, February 25, 2004, at 10:21AM, Darren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Minimum OS for ppc macs is 7.1.2 from memory. 7.1 plain wouldn't have enough fat in it to run a ppc. Technically speaking you don't need any FAT code to run an OS on a PPC. AFAIK, for example, NetBSD-mac68k will run fine on a PPC, although it warns you it is not optomised for that platform. All you need is a set of hooks that start the PPC's 68k enmulator. I have a feeling that is pretty much all that 7.1.2 was. These macs are better suited to 7.5.x In actual fact 8.1 runs very well o nthem as it was the first Mac OS that was optomised greatly for PowerPC CPUs. Although most of it is FAT it'smore efficient on PPCs than 7.6.1, which was still predomminantly an enhanced 68k OS. YMMV. -- Mark Benson http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: SE/30
Hi Anyone got any other suggestions than dealing with Small Dog? After being a client with them for years, they now refuse to export to France where I live, (Some sort of export agreement they have entered into with some manufacturers that they are applying in a blanket manner - clearly at this price point money is NOT an issue:-)). I have tried reasoning with them to no avail. Any ideas - or suggested sources in Europe? MTIA Mark ...snip Since people have been talking about SE/30s, I thought I would mention that SmallDog Electronics is selling a bunch of SE/30 Ethernet cards for $1. They are the Asante ethernet cards that I believe use the PDS slot, and they are brand new with a 90 day warrantee. I ordered a couple of them just a few days ago, and they should come in on Friday. ...snippo Mark WILLAN 3 place des Cines 06560 Valbonne Sophia Antipolis France Tel : +33 4 9296 0919 Fax : +33 4 9296 9004 Mob : +33 6 7320 4006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: SE/30
Excellent - put me down for one please (in France) - but I am off to Egypt for a fortnight tomorrow - can we sort out on my return - please? MTIA Mark On 19 Aug, 2004, at 07:28 pm, Nathan wrote: I'm stationed in Turkey, but I get charged stateside shipping rates, so those in England email me offlist.. It might be cheaper to have them shipped here to Turkey, and then the England.. on 2/19/04 8:38 PM, Paul Brierley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd be another will customer - I want Ethernet! Paul -- http://www.dur.ac.uk/p.e.brierley Mark WILLAN 3 place des Cines 06560 Valbonne Sophia Antipolis France Tel : +33 4 9296 0919 Fax : +33 4 9296 9004 Mob : +33 6 7320 4006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Mac OSX Basilisk II
On Feb 17, 2004, at 11:37 pm, Charles M Gascoigne wrote: Has anyone managed to run the Linux version of this in X11? Is it any better? Does it even work? I intend to try compiling it at some point, having installed the Xcode developers tools. Obviously only the terminal c compiler is required but you need them all the same! I'm no mean Terminal wizard however so any advice is welcome... -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
We have no green light....
I would like you all to say hello to Sati, a most welcome addition to my modest Mac collection. Most welcome indeed because I finally have a Colour Classic! Not just any old CC either, it's a Mystic CC, with 575 board, full 33MHz 040, 4GB hard disk and 68MB RAM (last two added by myself). Also equipped with a modified Analogue Board that drives the display at 640x480. My problem is thusly - the green light in the front I presume is supposed to be a Power LED, that glows green when the machine is on. Trouble is it doesn't. Something is amiss in there someplace, ca nanyone suggest what it might be? -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: We have no green light....
On Feb 17, 2004, at 02:58 am, J.S. Garrison wrote: on 2/16/04 3:07 PM, Mark Benson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like you all to say hello to Sati, a most welcome addition to my modest Mac collection. Most welcome indeed because I finally have a Colour Classic! Not just any old CC either, it's a Mystic CC, with 575 board, full 33MHz 040, 4GB hard disk and 68MB RAM (last two added by myself). Also equipped with a modified Analogue Board that drives the display at 640x480. My problem is thusly - the green light in the front I presume is supposed to be a Power LED, that glows green when the machine is on. Trouble is it doesn't. Something is amiss in there someplace, ca nanyone suggest what it might be? I presume you've turned the switch on in back, hooked to power, and mashed the power switch on the keyboard? If so, look on the boards for a blown fuse or dead power supply. Erm, I know I didn't make it totally clear but the computer works fine. I think my postings would be somewhat more desperate sounding if it didn't! Anyway taking the machine to pieces sounds like a 'mare. I did a hard disk swap-out when I got it and it was one helluva job getting around the analogue board. I might read up on how to strip i down completely. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Basilisk II
On the subject of Basilisk II, can anyone get the OS X version (build 15) to work? I just tried it with an LC575 ROM image and it just sits at a black screen for eternity. I at least expected a flashing '?'. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Basilisk II
On Feb 13, 2004, at 08:48 pm, Jeremy Morgan wrote: Does anyone know if Basilisk II will work with ROMs from either a Plus, SE, SE/30, PB 165c, or LC II? I have used it with LC II ROMs. I strongly recommend using 32-bit clean ROM images. I have 3 sets of LCII ROMs on my desk from dead boards (the sound section fails on them - so watch out if you own one!!) so I have a legal entitlement to use Basilisk II - or so I figure anyway. Not to mention I own 12 Macs, 8 of which are 68ks! :D Powerbook I wouldn't bother with 0 they are likely to have weird PB specific quirks. Plus I dunno, SE might. All you can do is load em all onto your Windows/Linux/BSD/OS X/Amiga/Sun/SGI/Acorn (it runs on a great number of platforms and since I dunno what u've got I figured I'd list almost all of em!!). The ones that work work and the ones that don't crash the emulator. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Mac 512k or SE board to TTL/RF adapter to TV
On Thursday, February 05, 2004, at 01:28PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have stumbled across an interesting little dealie. I mentioned that compact Macs used TTL video and i was trying to get a TTL monitor to rig up one as a desktop case Mac. He produced an RF modulator that takes in TTL and outputs an RF PAL TV signal. Sounds interesting. A couple of 1980's compact Mac hacks that might help: http://www.mandrake.demon.co.uk/Apple/ugly128.html The Apple User magazine article found at the above link has pinouts for the 128/512/Plus family. I can provide pinouts for for the SE and SE/30 if you can't find them elsewhere. Is there a circuit diagram for that video adapter in that lot? I only had a brief glance... -- Mark Benson http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Mac 512k or SE board to TTL/RF adapter to TV
I have stumbled across an interesting little dealie. I mentioned that compact Macs used TTL video and i was trying to get a TTL monitor to rig up one as a desktop case Mac. He produced an RF modulator that takes in TTL and outputs an RF PAL TV signal. S... I need to know where all the pins on the headers on a Mac 512k and an SE go to so I can use these spare boards I have lying around and maybe get em running. I figure the 12v and 5v lines from an LC PSU (of which I have tons) will suffice for the power, as it doesn't have a CRT. Pinouts would be useful. Any other advice welcome. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: 4.5V batteries from 9V
On Jan 29, 2004, at 04:50 am, Bryan Kattwinkel wrote: on 1/28/04 3:00 PM, Doug McNutt wrote: I have been taking 9 volt batteries apart to get 6 cells. Tell us more! How do you take the battery apart? Simple really - PP3 9v Square Cells are often made up of a string of 12 cells tagged head to tail. Split the battery's cell line in half in the middle and you have a pair of 4.5v Batteries. I dunno if all 9V PP3s are like this, I only know my NiCad ones are because the case pulled off of one when I took it out of the charger. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: 4.5V batteries from 9V
On Jan 29, 2004, at 08:17 pm, Doug McNutt wrote: Some older 9 volt batteries were made with a stack of rectangular cells. They're all probably too old to use now. My NiCads still work! :) I'll put some pictures together and write up a how-to but probably not before the weekend. Good man. I have no idea in my mind of what you are describing so a picture would definitely help ;) -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Lets celebrate!
On Jan 24, 2004, at 04:09 pm, Stuart Bell wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/ptech/01/23/mac.birthday/index.html And I look forward to another 20 with my 128,512 etc ,etc Given the absence of speed-bumps at MacExpo, I wondered if there might be a big announcement from Apple today - but nothing I've seen so far. Rumour sites suggest Monday rather than today. I hope it happens though. Apple have needed something a bit 'Extra' since the G5 launch at WWDC. Subsequent keynotes (including one I sat through in Paris) have been a bit dull. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Volume size limit for compact macs?
On Jan 11, 2004, at 10:25 pm, Kyle DePasquale wrote: I'm pretty sure that it's 2GB also. It should be the same as the other 68k macs. Partition size is a function of what OS the machine is running, not the Mac itself. IIRC it is 2GB up to System 7.1.x and 4GB from 7.5 - 7.6.1. From 8.0 onwards it's something huge and ridiculous. As for what will run on each Compact, well you can find that out yourselves. I will go as far as to say you need a 32-bit clean ROM to run OS 7.6 or later. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: compact with Laptop HDD?
On Dec 21, 2003, at 10:38 pm, Joe wrote: I just bought a 8 GB HDD for my lombard, but its too thick to fit inside my laptop, so since I have a BUNCH of compacts, I figured maybe I can stick it inside my SE/30, remove its HDD and put another floppy in it, so it has two floppies and a laptop 8GB HDD in it. First question, what OS do I need to run for it to recognize the 8 GB HDD in one partition? 8.0 I *think*. 7.6 *might* but i can't remember. Either is not going to run on an SE/30 without hacking/upgrades/patches. Secondly, its an IDE laptop drive, does anyone know where I can get the thingamajig I need to make this drive work on the SCSI bus in the SE/30? Yup - First off you need a 2.5 to 3.5 SCSI adapter. Then you need some sort of bridge, these are avaiable in various forms. In my 7100cx I have 1 5GB IBM Travelstar (spare and looking for trouble - didn't wanna work in my 5300 PB :-( ) lashed to an old ACARD SCSIDE bridge. It took a bit of modding to get mine in the drive bay as it's a 5.25 form factor adapter and is huge, but it works :-). You *can* now get a smaller 3.5 form factor version though. They are expensive but worth it - rarely has there been seen an 840av with a 40GB hard disk ;-) I think a few custom brackets (or zip ties :-D ) should fix a 12mm drive dow to the carrier and then u need a 2.5 to 3.5 adapter and the ACARD bridge. Laptop drives of that age spin up instantly so ready time is no issue, what is more on machines with SCSI Manager 4.3 compliant controllers it's VERY fast, my 5GB in the 7100cx is about 2x the speed of the 2GB Seagate Hawk SCSI drive I took out. I give you due warning however I had to apply a firmware patch to mine to get it to work in my 840av (to make it SCSI Manager 4.3 compatible and recognised by Apple's drive tools - not critical if you have Charismac, HDTK or Silverlining available for 68k Macs) that required attaching it to either a PowerMac (i did it on a Beige G3) or e-mail ACARD and ask for the 68k updating utility. I think I had to get the firmware patch from the website or by e-mail request. They are generally pretty helpful though. I have a 512, 128k/plus, SE, SE HDFD, SE/30, Mystic G4 tower, and a 8500/G3 400, 2 IIFX's, IICI, LC, 2 7100/66, WGS 7250/120, 2 lombard PBG3, and a broken Pismo... This solution generally works better in 1993-1998 era Macs with faster SCSI or (if you buy the version with a UWSCSI connector) with NuBus/PCI Wide SCSI cards. It will work in an SE/30 though as I've had it working in a IIci (similar age) and with every Mac OS from 7.1 to 8.1. You will need the firmware fix in order to make it bootable though, unless of course they fixed that since I bought mine! It'd be interesting to see if this works as it opens up all sorts of possibilities for mounting multiple drives in a compact Mac, as well as large capacity drives in upgraded Color Classics. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: compact with Laptop HDD?
On Dec 21, 2003, at 11:51 pm, Antonio RodrÃguez wrote: You do need an SCSI-to-IDE adapter, that's obvious. But, AFAIK there are only external ones - I don't think that there are much people that will be wanting to put an IDE drive inside a computer with a built-in SCSI controller... Yes, you are trying to do that, but how many strange things do the members of this list do just for the fun? I wish you good luck with your project. ACARD do 2 or 3 internal versions of the SCSIDE bridge (mentioned in previous post). Mine is for CD Drives and is too wide for a 3.5 bay. They now do 2 smaller ones for 3.5 hard disks that sit on the back of the drive and convert it straight to SCSI. They require a power-source via n PC type floppy power connector but mine was supplied with a ready made splitter to do this and still allow the power to be attached to the hard disk (or in Joe's case the laptop HDD adapter). As for 'strange things', what's wrong with installing a 2.5 IDE hard disk in a IIcx that happens to have a 7100 motherboard installed. ;-) -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
My once a year compact sale notice
Ok, so here is what I have. I am willing to ship anywhere in the world, provided you pay for it. Trades welcome; mostly looking for a scsi cdrw drive, Mystic stuff, video and other cards for a 6400/200. And possibly official copies of not-so-recent software. 2 mac Classic's 2/40 1 SE/30 4/0 100 mb external drive [Compact form factor] also: in-box copy of Virtual PC 2.0, complete and: I have an LC 520 and an LC 580 for sale or trade. They both come with 20 mg ram. The 580 is a bit faster, the 520 a bit better screen. These would be great for a family with 2 children just getting into computers. Both will come with Microsoft Kidsworks preinstalled on the original hard drives, as well as the most commom programs and games for you to examine, license or delete. I am in Chicago area, and these machines are heavy, so I am looking for a local pickup buyer. I wont let them go for less than $20 a piece, though if you come and take both of course we shall negotiate. Hey, whatever happened to the idea of a compact/68k swap list? __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Mark Benson's Hard Disk Nightmares.....
On Dec 5, 2003, at 07:40 pm, Stephen wrote: I took the Apple ROM 235 See the only one that works on mine is Apple ROM fitted, an IBM. The termination resistor pack issue I think is pertinent. The drives I've tried before either didn't have the packs (they're onboard the drive with the TE jumper) or had two resistor packs. There is a common line in each pack, and there are different resistance values between the two and three pack terminators, so this may be significant. The 160MB drive I have that works has 2 10-leg resistor pack on it. I doubt how the bus is terminated is the issue. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Mark Benson's Hard Disk Nightmares.....
On Dec 5, 2003, at 10:04 pm, Stephen wrote: Does anyone know the maximum size disk partition allowed for a Plus running System 6.0.5? I've only got a 4 gb Seagate to experiment with and I want to make sure I don't exceed the limit. Maybe I should just put a couple of 100 mb partitions on just for a test. Probably advisable. AFAIK System 6 has a 2GB upper limit on partition size. That's based on 6.0.8 though so YMMV. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Classic Dead Sound
On Nov 30, 2003, at 09:25 pm, Dr.O.M.Betz wrote: Well, it wasn't as bad as that. People have been shot (or flamed) on this list for less. LOL. I should have donned a flame proof suit ;-). What you remove by washing IMHO is spilled (spilt?) electrolyte, usually from electrolytic caps on their way out, and other impurities on the board causing weird shorts and near-shorts, creeping currents or whatever you call it, that cause unpredictable and illogical behaviour of the machine. Washing these irregular conductors away and drying the board thoroughly can make it return to work properly. I see - all makes sense now. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Mark Benson's Hard Disk Nightmares.....
On Dec 1, 2003, at 10:52 pm, J.S. Garrison wrote: Then I moved on to an Apple Rommed Quantum 500MB drive. The one from my Performa 6118. No Term Power jumper. But I had a terminator on the external hard disk case. Drive kept making the Plus reboot. With the terminator on or off the Bus. I've had that with both drives too. I think it's a lack of Termination Power (note the Plus does *not* supply any of it's own!) that causes that. In both cases the TP links were set wrong. Can you try the 500MB Apple drive again with the TP and Terminator set up right? Please? Wif sugars on Mr? (Sorry I'm getting a bit silly Re: this thing now - it's been going on so long I'm beginning to meet myself coming the other way! :-) ). Thanks for the independently performed research anyway Jeff - not everyone has the patience! -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Plus - reset switch?
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Re: Dang Mac Plus SCSI thing
OK I adjusted the interleave to 3:1 in Lido (I really don't think a 1997 2GB Seagate Hawk should need it!) and the format immediately failed without touching the drive at all. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Dang Mac Plus SCSI thing
On Nov 29, 2003, at 09:36 pm, Jeff Walther wrote: Whewww, using the Mac Plus's SCSI port? Probably within a few sigma of forever... Seriously, I think the Plus SCSI operates at something like .75 MB/s and I have no idea what kind of overhead is involved in formatting, but it seems like it would be somewhere in the neighborhood of 3000 seconds theoretical at least, so probably an hour or two. Maybe more. Well it took about an hour. From what I remember Low Level formatting is not computer dependent, the computer sends the drive a set instruction and the drive does it automatically. It's certainly the case on IDE units and SCSI isn't a mile off of IDE. Let us know. That's an interesting question. I just bought eight IBM Ultrastar 2ES 2 GB drives with 50 pin interface, so I may need to know the answer my self soon. Fancy throwing a couple of those across the pond ;-) It would probably be faster to have an SE or Classic format the drive, if you have one handy. I know that with APS PowerTools, at least, setting the interleave is a user accessible function. Although, I also remember that someone on this group stated that on more modern drives you don't need to set the interleave for the Plus? Anyone remember the details? It had something to do with modern buffering or some such. According to a well known source of wisdom who's name shall remain disclosed, early drives require 3:1 interleave in order that they work with the somewhat pedestrian SCSI on the Plus, this is due to them having data buffers that are too small to cope with the difference in timing. Modern drives have much larger buffers and so do not require this to be usable on a Plus. Mine falls into the later category as far as I can tell. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Dang Mac Plus SCSI thing
OK now this is getting beyond a joke. I have substituted the 2GB Seagate for a 512MB Fujitsu unit. The drive once again formatted fine and even accepted 3:1 interleave. Again it mounts fine on a floppy boot and will read/write with no problems. I copied a 6.0.8 system folder to it and it does exactly the same as the other drive did - on boot the Plus scans for liable boot files, looks on both floppies, then the hard disk and then locks up on the disk/? screen (mouse still moves). Putting in a boot floppy makes no odds at this point - reset is the only option. Should I now try an Apple ROM'd drive? Is my SCSI Dead? I find it hard to believe it could be as it seems to work at any other time than boot! -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Plus - reset switch?
On Nov 30, 2003, at 02:28 pm, Scott Holder wrote: There is one, but you'll need a set of Programmer's buttons to access it and the NMI button. Many Macs of the era had a set of buttons that stuck through the case in strategic places to give access to the buttons. The Classic was one of the few to give direct access to them. Nothing I can't access using the trusty 'Macintosh Emergency Operations Tool' (TM) -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Dang Mac Plus SCSI thing
On Nov 30, 2003, at 03:26 pm, Ken wrote: The 2GB drive was fully terminated (providing it's own Term. Power) and using it's built in termination via jumper in the option block. The 512MB is also Terminated as far as I can tell using a DIP that slots into a socket (it's a weird drive!!). FWIW I think only earlier drives use the resistor packs. Some have a pair of 10-leg packs. Some have 3 8-leg packs. Quantum stuck with them for ages after everyone else but even they gave up eventually and used a jumper. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Plus Classic PRAM Zap?
Man I'm rusty! Can anyone tell me how to Zap the PRAM on a Plus or a Classic. I can't seem to get C-O-P-R to do it. Needs a week to re-learn all dis -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Dang Mac Plus SCSI thing
This gets odder and odder - 160MB Apple branded IBM H3171 drive - works perfectly. Tried it once - not recognized. Terminated and rebooted. Tried again got a happy Mac then it went back to the flashing disk/? that was still flashing (not locked like other drives). Booted from a floppy and drive came up in the desktop. Stuffed the boot floppy's System Folder on it and rebooted and bingo. My head hurts. Do I need a custom driver on non-Apple drives to boot them maybe? -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Dang Mac Plus SCSI thing
On Nov 30, 2003, at 04:48 pm, J.S. Garrison wrote: Boot with a floppy having the drive connected and running. Tell me if you see the drive mount on the desktop or not. As I've stated a couple of times, both mount to the desktop and read/write fine from a floppy boot. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Dang Mac Plus SCSI thing
On Nov 30, 2003, at 04:29 pm, Stephen wrote: I've been lurking for a while, and thought I'd better chime in. I wish that I had some good news for you - I can't really give you an answer because I've always had that problem with my Mac Plus. I'm glad it's not just me :-) BTW - ditch Lido - it's evil. Whyfor you say this? -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Dang Mac Plus SCSI thing
On Nov 30, 2003, at 05:41 pm, J.S. Garrison wrote: No. But be sure the weird drives you're using have their settings matching the Apple ROMmed ones. They do. I can't work it out. I guess 160MB will have to do! On Nov 30, 2003, at 05:34 pm, Stephen wrote: Back in the days when Lido was the Cat's Meow, a number of us actually physically damaged discs and hardware using Lido. Can't recall what version, but we were using System 7.1 and 7.5 at the time. I trust you all totally knew what you were doing and checked all the precautions, manufacturers recommendations, instructions and everything first? You did. right? It looks like it could do a lot of harm if you played with it excessively, but to use the old Doctor's adage, Then don't do that! -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Classic Dead Sound
On Nov 30, 2003, at 05:14 pm, J.S. Garrison wrote: on 11/30/03 7:15 AM, Mark Benson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh man, my day just gets worse. The sound is dead in my Classic. Nothing NADA. Anyone come across this before? Been following the motherboard washing threads? It doesn't *look* dirty. What is commonly the cause that is removed by washing? I don't fancy hosing the board by hosing the board, if you get my drift (man that was terrible - shoot me now!). -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Dang Mac Plus SCSI thing
On Nov 29, 2003, at 02:37 am, Jeff Walther wrote: Will it boot with the drive attached but powered off? Once you have the Plus booted up, then you can switch on the power to the external drive and launch appropriate formatting software. I thought of that but I was also of the impression it was kinda risky turning on stuff on a SCSI bus after the master controller. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Dang Mac Plus SCSI thing
On Nov 29, 2003, at 02:37 am, Jeff Walther wrote: Will it boot with the drive attached but powered off? Once you have the Plus booted up, then you can switch on the power to the external drive and launch appropriate formatting software. It worked, thanks. Now how long will it take a 2GB SCSI drive to format at low-level? -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Dang Mac Plus SCSI thing
On Nov 29, 2003, at 02:28 pm, Phil Beesley wrote: Check for a Spin Up mode jumper. The hard disk needs to be configured to spin up at power on. It does anyway. I formatted it and partitioned it and installed 6.0.8 on a 250MB partition at the beginning of the drive. It reads OK and the install went well without a hitch. On reboot the machine just locks on the flashing ? screen (the ? doesn't flash) and the hard disk's LED sticks on although it isn't doing anything. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Dang Mac Plus SCSI thing
On Nov 28, 2003, at 05:18 am, Terence Dennis Sherman wrote: Keep in mind that hard disks for the Plus should be formatted with a 3:1 interleave. Newer Macs usually cannot access these, so you may have to use the Plus itself to format it. I'm aware of this but I can't boot the Plus with a drive attached to do it. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: cleaning.......
On Nov 27, 2003, at 07:09 am, Stuart Bell wrote: Presumably this is a water based degreaser? I'm pretty sure it is. I'd have thought oil or solvent based stuff would damage the case. It's not called 'MuckOff' by any chance is it? Halford's Citrus Bicycle Chain Cleaner (or something like that!) I see. Water based degreaser is probably cheaper if you get it from a motor factors, probably doesn't smell as good, but hey. when I cleaned all my LCs (12 at the time) I used a bowl of soapy water then laid them out and blasted them with a hose. Of course I stripped them down first! That said I did spill water on a 475 board and managed to dry it out and it still worked Not that I'm suggesting that you could do it with the board still in, but it worked well anyway - got all the cruft out of the air vents, which on some of them were black with grease and dirt and pretty much blocked solid. Tough stains I left to soak with a few coats of rubbing alcohol and they went eventually - and I don't advise anyone writes on a Mac with permanent marker pen - it's a real drag to get off again! -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: cleaning.......
On Nov 26, 2003, at 04:14 pm, Stuart Bell wrote: On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, at 03:28 PM, videoking wrote: hi, im like to clean an old SE 1/20, its a bit yellow, some postit glue traces, etc. anybody got some hints how to clean it without destroying the surface? I use the cleaner intended to clean bicycle chains. It's a strong de-greaser, usually with a nice smell! Presumably this is a water based degreaser? I'd have thought oil or solvent based stuff would damage the case. It's not called 'MuckOff' by any chance is it? I find a good one for tough stains is Isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol. It doesn't attack ABS and it's pretty inexpensive. It won't take the yellow off though. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: cleaning.......
On Nov 26, 2003, at 04:44 pm, David Carpeneto wrote: Fantastik (http://www.fantastik.com/). Distribute it evenly over the case (take the case off before - you don't want it in the innards). Let it sit a little. Lightens the yellowing extremely nicely. Not as classy as bicycle chain de-greaser, but does the job nice from my experience. It's made by SC Johnson - I wonder if it has a UK equivalent? -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Speaker/Screen Interference
I turned my SE/30 on today for the first time in ages to see if I could solve the ethernet problem (which I did - it was my dad's evil 10/100 switch) I had with it ages ago (which stopped me using it and now it's OK and I'm elated) and found it is suffering terribly loud screen related interference with the speaker. It died down once it had warmed up. Old age? Failing caps? -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Speaker/Screen Interference
On Nov 25, 2003, at 08:16 am, Mark Benson wrote: I turned my SE/30 on today for the first time in ages to see if I could solve the ethernet problem (which I did - it was my dad's evil 10/100 switch) I had with it ages ago (which stopped me using it and now it's OK and I'm elated) and found it is suffering terribly loud screen related interference with the speaker. It died down once it had warmed up. Old age? Failing caps? Well, sadly, it answered my question all on it's own. It board looks to be shot, the caps are all borked on it and it's throwing Jailbars and all sorts of weird patterns at boot time, only starting once in every 3 or 4 times. The worst thing is I put my spare in and it's borked as well! So, erm, anyone got a spare socket CPU SE/30 board? -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Speaker/Screen Interference
On Nov 25, 2003, at 08:35 pm, Mark Benson wrote: Well, sadly, it answered my question all on it's own. It board looks to be shot, the caps are all borked on it and it's throwing Jailbars and all sorts of weird patterns at boot time, only starting once in every 3 or 4 times. The worst thing is I put my spare in and it's borked as well! So, erm, anyone got a spare socket CPU SE/30 board? Scrub that, can anyone point me to the capacitor values for the board? I need values for all the Electrolytic SMT Cans. My dad reckons he can replace them pretty easily. I might get him to do the other board if the first attempt works so I have a spare... -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Plus and SCSI
On Nov 21, 2003, at 07:43 am, Stuart Bell wrote: I think so. I've always used HD-equipped Compacts on that assumption. All the 68ks I've ever worked on, including my 840av and all LCs and SE thru Classic Compacts, have required the internal drive nearest the board to be terminated. In the 840av this is the CD-ROM, but on others it's the hard disk. All externals I have ever used have also needed to be terminated. On a PowerMac 7300 and 7500 (and presumably other related derivatives) however it is NOT required. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Desktop Pictures?
On Nov 20, 2003, at 12:06 am, Matt Jordan wrote: On Wednesday, November 19, 2003, at 06:08 PM, Andrew wrote: I found Decor by a search on Google and put it on my Duo 280c. Works great! Takes about 4 seconds to load the background with a 16M, 800x600 JPEG, so an 8-bit JPEG should probably take just as long or less on an earlier 68k machine. I had planned to use an 8-bit (optimized palette) PICT image. Would this be supported (and load much faster)? I made a 640x480 startup screen for my Mac TV using this method and it loads instantly. I just want something that has no noticeable lag (which is why I am willing to make my own PICTs). Half the lag with JPEGS is they are compressed and it takes older Macs an age to decompress them. PICTs are not (or at least not as well) compressed and thus should load faster. That said there is a lot less logical power involved in displaying 256 colour images anyway. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Starting up Plus from External HD
On Thursday, November 20, 2003, at 03:25PM, J.S. Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First, the Plus can't work with a hard drive until it's been formatted to an interleave of 3:1, due to the Plus's inherent slowness. So, if that HD had a life on another, faster Mac, there's your first step. Reinitialize it and set the spins-per-read to a 3:1. I think we mentuioned this earlier on in proceedings when Ian was struggling to get the drive to work with the Plus, also if it appears on the desktop and is read/writable then it is not a format issue. -- Mark Benson http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Plus and SCSI
On Nov 20, 2003, at 10:04 pm, Tom Lee wrote: The Plus is of course at one end of the chain (it's the bus master), but it is not terminated internally. No compact mac is, by the way. FWIW I don't think any 68k Macs or early 1-bus powermacs are. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Desktop Pictures?
On Nov 19, 2003, at 05:23 pm, J.S. Garrison wrote: For the old color Macs (like the Color Classic etc) running system 7.x how can I use a picture as wallpaper instead of the patterns? Is there 3rd party software or a hack that would let me put wallpaper on the desktop without much of a headache? The Appearence CP and Extension work with 7.5.3 to 7.6.1 for definite but I am not sure about the Desktop Pictures CP. Certianly the OS 8.0 Desktop Pictures CP and the Appearance stuff should enable full desktop pictures if they work. Bear in mind that heavyweight 16M colour JPEGs take a long time to load on a 68k (it takes a second or on a 7100!!) so booting will be slowed significantly. 256 Colour or Grey pictures should be way better. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Laptop drives in a compact
On Nov 14, 2003, at 05:52 am, J.S. Garrison wrote: on 11/13/03 1:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone ever used a laptop drive in a compact Mac to save space for upgrades? I have two that I could put into my SE30. I figure they should take very little space and get rid of the bulky, small hdd in there, giving room for a turbo 040 card. Ever hear of a LaCie Backpack Drive? a Laptop SCSI drive in a case that plugs into the SCSI port of a Compact newer than a 512. Hehe, who says pocket hard disks are a new idea ;) I have a 160MB Quantum drive fro my PB 180c. I have bought a stack of restoration bits for my pile of sickly powerbooks and among them managed to get a 512MB 2.5 SCSI drive (cost a bomb -relatively speaking- mind you). I considered putting one in my 840av so i could use it's pair of UWSCSI drives as a RAID, but as Stuart says the adapters are really hard to come by over here. On a not totally unrelated subject, I fitted a 5GB 2.5 Travelstar in my 7100cx a few weeks back - works like a charm and is mega fast. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: shipping outside the US
On Nov 12, 2003, at 10:01 pm, Bryan Kattwinkel wrote: on 11/12/03 3:00 PM, Compact Macs wrote: I've never shied away from sending across the pond. In the years I've done it, I've had only a couple of minor problems. So what is the best way to ship internationally? I'm in Florida, and so far have only bought and sold within the U.S. I plan to list some stuff on LEM Swap soon, and also a couple of items on eBay. I've been told that Japanese bidders are sometimes keen on compact stuff. http://katsmacs.blogspot.com/ If your an experienced packer USPS is good for UK. I've had numerous stuff sent here by USPS Air and USPS Global Priority and non of it has failed to reach me as yet. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
FS: SE/30/Opps!
Sorry about copying the WHOLE digest! Outlook has some bad habits. MacManMark Double Play Band [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
FS: SE/30
I've got an SE/30 for sale. 300 MB HD, OS 7.1, 8 MB RAM, ext. keyboard, no mouse (unless you want the one with the pinched cord) $30 plus shipping. (Please disregard my last post about copying the whole list. Fortunately, the list wouldn't allow a posting that large.) MacManMark Double Play Band [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Daystar 040 upgrades and software
On Nov 3, 2003, at 08:50 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Daystar 68040/40 card that I am installing in my SE30. They daystar site lists three different downloads for their 040 cards. Turbo040 software, Quadcontrol software and PowerCenter software. This card also has, I believe, 128k of backside cache on the actual card, not as a add-on daughter card. The processor has a heat sink mounted on it. Is this a PowerCache, Turbo040 or (?) card? Which version of the software should be installed? This is going in a SE/30 w/32 mg RAM, 230 mg HDD running OS 7.5.5 with Mode32 7.5 installed. It will effectively be a SE/30 EC, per Gamba's site, with a MacCon Ethernet card, IIsi Daystar PDS adapter w/120 pin right angle connector with this cad installed. Thanks. If it needs a IIsi Adapter to connect to the SE/30 it is a Turbo 040. IIRC the Powercache upgrades either plugged directly into the PDS Slot or replaced the 16MHz 030 CPU. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Daystar 040 upgrades and software
On Nov 3, 2003, at 09:15 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, I need the turbo040 software. Do I also need the Quadcontrol? I've got one with manuals and disks in my IIci (I just remembered - bless it my IIci doesn't get much use, despite being faster than my 475!), I'll have to dig around and see what it came with. From memory - hazy though it is (we are talking nearly a year ago - criminal isn't it!) it came with QC and Turbo040. I think QC is the Control Panel and the Turbo040 is an extension to enable the extra Cache. I also seem to remember the Turbo 040 in my IIci is identical to yours but 33MHz. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
eh, what is this se/30 card on eBay?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2763759187category=4610 IS what he's saying true? What would this really trade for on the list? __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
LC 520 running very hot
Unmodified LC 520, 20/160, 7.5.3 rev 2. Beautiful screen and it has thousands of colors. Plan to upgrade. But, and of course I found it thrifting, it runs incredibly hot. When I take a floppy out after it has been inside it for an hour, the floppy feels like toast. Sides are warm, too. But nothing is blocking the vents, and no other mac i have runs hot like this..any ideas what could be causing it? And what to do? __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: for a good time...
On Tuesday, October 21, 2003, at 08:18 AM, Stuart Bell wrote: That's the first Plus/SE hybrid I've come across! We probably shouldn't be surprised how interchangeable the components are when it's remembered that the SE chassis still has an aperture on its front element that would accept a 5.25 drive where the 3.5 drives go, presumably because a 5.25 drive was only rejected quite late in the development of the first Mac, and Apple didn't change the chassis for the SE to remove that potential. It may have bee retained as a possible mounting for a 5.25 hard disk, such as the ones used in the original Mac II. I also know of a lot of Mac/512/Plus/SE 'specials' that used 5.25 floppy drives, for defense contracts and such like. Stuar empathizes with Stuar (t??) posting at 8:20am... -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
