Re: Moving to Google Groups
On Saturday, January 28, 2006, at 04:34 PM, Mark wrote: Do i have to use a google account to stay subscribed? No. It will not just let me sub my yahoo.com address. Why not? It let me subscribe using this verizon.net address. Perhaps you aren't doing something correctly. *any* valid e-mail address should work. -Nat -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
ImageWriter II quality question
Hi folks, I have an ImageWriter II that's been in the family since it was bought new in 1988. I hope this is fair game for the list. I used to use it with my Mac Plus, purchased simultaneously in 1988. It's been in storage, and I recently got it out to use with my Apple IIgs. Please bear with me here as it'll take a few paragraphs to accurately explain the problem. Somewhere along the line, it has developed a problem where it occasionally skips a horizontal scanline. This is manifested by what looks like very thin white horizontal streaks randomly throughout the printed page. These transverse the entire width of the paper, and are only one pixel high. This happens very randomly, sometimes it can print a whole page without a problem whereas the following page will have many of these anomalies. Printing text with a black ink ribbon, my first thought was that I needed a new ink ribbon. New ink ribbon installed = darker text, but the problem remains and is almost more apparent because the surrounding text is darker making for a bigger contrast. So my next thought was that there is something wrong with the tractor feed causing the feed to overshoot and advance the paper slightly farther than it should, randomly. That was until I stuck in a (brand new) color ribbon to print a banner from Print Shop. With a color ribbon, the problem is far worse. What actually appears to be happening is that the printer is OCCASIONALLY raising the ribbon higher than it should. Those of you who have experience with these printers know that magenta (red?) is below the yellow band on the printer ribbon. When printing an image that should have been solid yellow, instead of the missed streaks, I got random bands of red throughout. I am aware of the ribbon height adjuster, but I don't think this is an adjustment issue. Because, as I indicated earlier, the printer can go as much as a whole page without problems and just randomly spits these out at me. A red stripe in the middle of a yellow image is hard to miss, no matter how you look at it. I lubricated the hinges with machine oil that appear to pivot when the printer needs to change the ribbon height, but this had absolutely zero effect on the problem. Anyone else had this problem? What's the solution? I'd really like to restore this printer to perfect (wishful thinking?) working order again, since cosmetically, it's beautiful. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: help with a mac plus
On Saturday, January 7, 2006, at 03:24 AM, Eddie Smith wrote: At 11:50 AM 1/7/06, you wrote: Does the drive make any sound? I had this happen on a Plus once. When I opened the computer up I saw the drive's connector had come loose. If the drive is connected and it's making noise, the problem would require a bit of thought... Scott --- Chase Bohling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a mac plus that can't read disks from the internal floppy drive. I replaced the drive, but it still can't read disks. If I boot from external drive it works fine. Any solutions? Thanks. -Chase I think that it is most likely the floppy cable that it the problem. Take one out of one of you other machines and try that. If it's not the cable it might be you mother board Eddie Aren't there two different cables for those floppy drives? One version has a red stripe and the other version has a yellow stripe. These cables are electrically different. I'm not 100% sure about this, but I'm pretty sure only one cable will work correctly and the other won't. I don't know which cable is right for your setup. I have a Mac 512k that had a bad floppy drive. I replaced the drive, but it still didn't work. Somebody on this list said that I needed a cable with a yellow stripe as opposed to the one I had with a red stripe that I was trying to use. Sure enough, using a yellow striped cable made everything work fine. While this worked on my 512k that uses 400k floppy drives, the same may not apply to the Plus that uses 800k floppy drives. I'm not sure. I'm sure someone here will confirm or deny this theory. -Nat -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Mac Plus Repair - analog and logic board
On Thursday, December 29, 2005, at 03:27 PM, Thomas wrote: This is absolutely correct. The spare board I got came configured for more than 1MB of RAM, but I been using 256KB SIMMs. After putting in 4MB, the board operates normally, though I noticed the time for the floppy icon to appear takes a bit longer...is this normal? Completely 100% normal. The Mac is doing RAM tests in the period before showing you the floppy icon. More RAM = longer time to test it all. -Nat -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: 128K and 512k For Sale
For Sale posts are only allowed on Mondays. Since it's Monday, give us the details on the systems and what kind of money you want for them. -Nat On Monday, December 26, 2005, at 02:22 PM, Alfred Renteria wrote: I'm not sure if I can post machines and peripherals for sale. I have an original 128k and 512k, plus drives, keyboards and mice. How does it work? Alfred -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Clock Program for the 9-inch Screen
On Friday, December 16, 2005, at 02:07 PM, Dr.O.M.Betz wrote: Am 15.12.2005 um 23:38 Uhr schrieb Tom Howe: Hello: I'm looking for a large clock program that will fill the compact mac screen. This should run under System 6, and ideally will have clock digits about 2 inches high. It would also be nice to have the display float around a bit to prevent burn-in. This is going to be used on a compact mac that will be sitting on top of the cross formed by the intersection of four cubicle walls. It Options that haven't been mentioned yet are Eclipse and BlackWatch. Eclipse is my personal favourite for sentimental reasons and does a very decent job, but I can't remember from the top of my head how well you can customize it - so far for your 2 inch digits. BlackWatch (last version I know of is 1.5.5) adds password protection to the moving clock, no protection against a restart from floppy of course, but sufficient enough to deter the occasional snooper or prankster. The After Dark module mentioned by another poster is pretty customizable but the underlying engine is somewhat picky about system versions IIRC. To clarify, the After Dark clock module WILL work just great under System 6.x as long as you get a copy of After Dark 2.0. Any later versions require System 7 or higher, I'm afraid. I have After Dark running on my Macintosh Plus with System 6.0.8. -Nat -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Introducing the Mac SE/3000
Forgive me if this has already been posted on the list, but I thought the following URL was interesting: http://users.adelphia.net/%7eattilaerika/assembly.html It makes me a little upset no actual Apple electronics are being used, but it's still appropriate fodder for the list... -Nat -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: System 6 question (was: System 6, Compact Macs on LEM today)
On Tuesday, December 6, 2005, at 11:30 AM, Scott Baret wrote: 6.0.8L runs only on the Classic, Classic II, LC, LCII, and PB100. Except the Classic II, all of those can run other versions. So I've always wondered: what does the L stand for? -Nat -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Very Serious Mac Classic Problem...
On Thursday, November 10, 2005, at 02:17 PM, Dr.O.M.Betz wrote: Am 10.11.2005 um 14:50 Uhr schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: snip anyone here help? If it is the onboard RAM, is ther anyway I can bypass it? The Classic will boot and run fine, except 95% of the programs I open will pop up with an address error System bomb. snip First thing that comes to mind is a virus. Yes, v-i-r-u-s. The nVir could do funny things sometimes. Another possibility is that the 68000 CPU itself has gone bad. I have only seen this happen once, but it does happen. Apparently. Get yourself a program called Snooper. If you can't find it, e-mail me. Hopefully it will run without bombing. If it does run, it will test every aspect of your system and find your problem. Try this if your search for a virus comes up negative. The one bad 68000 I came across was in a first-gen SE. It was constantly bombing like your Classic. A quick run through with Snooper revealed a bad 68000. I know of no way to fix the problem aside from a complete motherboard swap. -Nat -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: exchange data floppy help
On Saturday, November 5, 2005, at 08:16 PM, Jean-Marc Melchior wrote: hi, i am looking to exchange data between my mac os x and my mac plus, if I buy a floppy that can read and write 2DD disks, can my plus then read the disks written on the mac os x? No. OS X does not support DD/800k floppy disks. And the Plus does not support 1.4MB floppies. your best bet is to get a serial cable and connect the two machines via AppleTalk. If you must use floppy disks, you will need an intermediate machine that can read/write both DD/800k floppies as well as as 1.4MB floppies. -Nat -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Mac Classic Platoon
Speaking of weird things that came with old macs - anyone need an old 1mb MacSnap upgrade board for 512k/128k Macs? I ended up with two and can't see a need for more than one (other than hoarding). I have no idea what one would be worth (I have never seen one on ebay or anything). Let me know if you need one and maybe we can work something out. I am interested in this. What do you want for it? -Nat -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: FW: music
Sure. It is shareware I think. Maybe freeware, but I know it's not commercial. I'll do it a bit later today. -Nat If it's freeware or shareware, compress it with StuffIt 4, BinHex it, and send me it. I'll share it on my FTP server, with some MODs from my collection, so anybody that wants can use them in their Macs. Greetings, Antonio Rodríguez (Grijan) ftp://grijan.cjb.net:21000/ Nat Hall escribió: There is at least one. I have it installed on my Macintosh IIsi under System 6.0.8. It probably isn't compatible with anything pre-OS 6, though. I think it is called StarTrekker. It plays only MOD files, not IT or S3M files. It's a very nice program, however, with quite a few playback options as well as a mixer. -Nat -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: FW: music
On 24/10/05, Antonio Rodríguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that you can play syntethized music with very thight resources, even in an original, 4 Kb Apple ][, using Apple's PLAYER2, a routine that weighted a little less than 200 bytes and could play several minutes of music from a 4-5 kb file. Now THAT is an idea. Have a look to see if there are any MOD players for MacOS? That was a popular very small music format from the days befrore digital samples. That MIDI files. There is at least one. I have it installed on my Macintosh IIsi under System 6.0.8. It probably isn't compatible with anything pre-OS 6, though. I think it is called StarTrekker. It plays only MOD files, not IT or S3M files. It's a very nice program, however, with quite a few playback options as well as a mixer. -Nat -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: SE/30 Woes!
By the way, those who have said they dishwashered their motherboards, did you also run your ROM and SIMMs through as well? No. Remove the PRAM battery, ROM and RAM SIMMs before washing. -Nat -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Dishwashing a Classic II
I'm not sure that will work, but if you insist! It will work unless his capacitors are so far gone they *all* need replacing. I think the general success rate is probably around 9 out of 10 with the dishwasher. -Nat On 10/23/05, Liam Proven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24/10/05, Noah Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to be rude or anything, but why would you do something like that? Ahh, short memories. A month ago, I posted this message to this list: Good news bad news 15 Sep Well, for me, the bad news is that my Classic II has died. It's been balky at turning on for 6mth or so but yesterday it came up with a stripy screen which didn't go away after power-cycling it a few times. Now it doesn't even try. The HD spins up but nothing else. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: SE/30 Woes!
Has anyone tried the dish-washer trick? I have never tried it, but some people have claimed that putting it (just the motherboard!) into a dishwasher with no soap (given that the capacitors are fine) fixes the problem. It seems a rather safer approach to just change all capacitors... or is it? Mauricio The diswasher approach is completely safe provided you let the board dry sufficiently before re-installing and powering up. It fixed my Classic II, which gave me those damn bars and would not start up at ALL, two years ago and it is still running strong with no signs of trouble today. I say: try the dishwasher trick. If it works, you should be good for a long time to come. If it doesn't, THEN it's time to replace the capacitors. -Nat -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: music
I have an original (128MB RAM) compact mac, and if possible I would love to play music files on it ( files i currently have on a newer mac) - do you know if there's any way of achieving this, with any sort of configuration re. hardware/software? Thank you katie Perhaps you meat an original 128kb RAM Mac? The only compact Mac that can use 128MB of RAM is the SE/30, and there is quite a difference between 128kb and 128MB. :) Regardless of which machine you have, I don't believe it is possible if you are speaking of MP3 music files. More information is needed for a more informative response. -Nat -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: music
I have an original (128MB RAM) compact mac, and if possible I would love to play music files on it ( files i currently have on a newer mac) - do you know if there's any way of achieving this, with any sort of configuration re. hardware/software? Thank you katie Perhaps you meat an original 128kb RAM Mac? The only compact Mac that can use 128MB of RAM is the SE/30, and there is quite a difference between 128kb and 128MB. :) Regardless of which machine you have, I don't believe it is possible if you are speaking of MP3 music files. More information is needed for a more informative response. -Nat -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Bell and Howell (KMM28102599I74L0KM)
I have gotten about four of these messages so far. It started yesterday. One of these for every new post that goes to the list. Somebody needs to unsubscribe this e-mail address from the list. Dan? -Nat On Saturday, October 15, 2005, at 03:45 PM, Noah Wood wrote: Why did this show up in the mailing list? On 10/15/05, eStatements [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a post-only email. Please do not reply to this message. This email address is not monitored for responses. For any customer service inquiry, you can either send a secure e-mail by visiting www.bankofamerica.com or call us at 1.800.933.6262. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Startup-Stripes on Classic II
Your capacitors have leaked onto the traces on the motherboard. This leakage may not be visible to you. This is a recurring thread on this list, and apparently a VERY common problem with Classic II's. It happened to my Classic II last year. Eventually the leakage will be so bad that even powering on and off multiple times in succession will not start your Mac. In a nutshell: to make these work correctly you need to clean the leakage from the motherboard. You can either use alcohol or stick your motherboard in the dishwasher. Yes, I am serious. The dishwasher method is the one I chose and it worked like a charm. I had this happen to my Classic II in January of 2004. I ran it through one cycle in the dishwasher, let it dry for three days, then re-installed it. It works beautifully. It has been working fine ever since, without a hint of trouble. It's been nearly two years. The alcohol method relies on you being able to see the leakage, and thus knowing which particular capacitors have leaked. (Unless you want to clean all the traces on the entire board.) I chose the dishwasher method because it is idiot-proof and involves less fudging around. Plus I couldn't see any visible leakage on the board with my bare eye. Depending on which capacitors have leaked, upon restoring functionality, you may find your audio is quiet or gone completely. This was not the case for me-- my audio still works great at full volume. No matter which method you chose to clean off the leaked 'gunk', you then have the option of whether or not to replace the leaking capacitors. If you are handy with a soldering iron, perhaps you want to give it a try. Replacement capacitors (if you get the right ones), as I understand it, are 100% more reliable and resistant to leakage today compared to the ones used when these machines were made. If you are not handy with a soldering iron, or simply lazy (like myself), you can opt not to replace them. Though you will want to keep in mind that once they have started leaking, chances are they will continue to leak. But even if you choose not to replace them, it is likely that the continued leakage won't cause further problems for years to come. Again, it has been two full years since I cleaned my Classic II's board without replacing anything and it has yet to show any symptoms of this problem again. I believe I still have a few more good years left before the problems recur. If it happens again, I will probably opt to replace them at that point. Good luck! -Nat On Tuesday, October 11, 2005, at 12:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! I have got 2 Macintosh Classic II, both have the same problem: After Power on there is no sound. When the monitor turns on, there are only white vertical bars. Each bar is about 1 inch wide. cleaning RAM-sockets (like on SE/30 Simasi) doesn't change anything first Classic II: after power up and power down several times this one finally starts MacOS from Harddisk. After power off for 5 minutes the same as before: no sound and stripes. Sometimes its comes up with checkboard pattern. on second Classic II: after severall power up/power down: startup-sound, then white screen, after 15 seconds screen changes to all white pixel. about 10 second later: Error-sound. Both worked fine about six months ago, then they were stored in a dry room. Now it was my first try to use these beauties again. On both PRAM-Battery is empty. What is wrong? Does a classic II start with empty PRAM-battery? Thanks in advance. Uwe Fritz -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/ compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal
Re: Startup-Stripes on Classic II
(replies between paragraphs) On Tuesday, October 11, 2005, at 07:03 PM, Scott Baret wrote: For cleaning, I usually use an old towel that I call my tech rag and use Endust for Electronics on it. The towel is simply a hand towel like the kind you can get for a few bucks at JC Penney. I've used the same towel since 1999 and it always does the job. Make sure you keep the towel in a safe place when done since Endust isn't exactly good for a dog or a cat who might accidently take the towel and attempt to eat it. Endust for Electronics can be found at places like office supply stores or K Mart and also does a good job cleaning your monitor, case, keyboard, and mouse. It's pretty good at taking off markers if you use enough of it. It requires ventilation and I try to do my Endusting outside. If it's not possible make sure you ventilate the room well. And yes, this is a VERY COMMON occurrance on Classic IIs. I'd say two in three have this problem. As for PRAM batteries, Classic IIs can start on dead batteries. All compacts are able to. (I know for a fact that the II, IIx, IIfx, and LC475 all have issues, though) Scott --- Shaun Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Nat, What kind of a cloth would you use for the manual cleaning of the motherboard? I don't have a dishwasher, and this place is way to small to even accommodate one. What Scot said above is good counsel. I have not heard of Endust for Electronics, but I'll take Scott's word that it works well. I will give it a try sometime. Like he said, any good rag will do. Q-Tips also work well for the hard-to-reach spots. Also, do you know where to find good step-by-step instructions for replacing the capacitors? I have no doubt that it would be easy enough (though I've heard it's time consuming), however it would be better if I knew exactly what to do. Also, getting reacquainted with a soldering iron would be beneficial too. :) It *is* time consuming, but not hard for someone who knows their way around a soldering iron. And unfortunately, I do not know of any place to find step-by-step instructions. Maybe another list member could help out in that respect. There's a website about the SE/30 (SimasiMac?) that tells what capacitors to replace (as far as the SE/30 goes) and what to replace them with, but now how to do it. At least not from what I saw. I wouldn't try and use that as a guide if you *do* attempt it, as I'm fairly sure that the SE/30 motherboard is significantly different from the Classic II motherboard. Though I haven't spent much time puttering around with the SE/30 board so I won't say for certain. -Nat -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: HFS or HFS+
On Monday, October 3, 2005, at 03:22 PM, Antonio Rodríguez wrote: I think HFS has a file/folder name length limit of 31 characters, and that HFS+ raises that limit (perhaps to 255 chars?). That may be the problem. Try to find a file with a very long filename. Greetings, Antonio Rodríguez (Grijan) ftp://grijan.cjb.net:21000/ I think Antonio hit it on the nose. On my G4, I have OS 10.2.8 installed on a hard drive formatted as HFS+, and 9.2.2 installed on a different hard drive formatted as HFS. Copying files with long names from the 10.2.8 drive to the 9.2.2 drive always results in an error. Initially, I thought it was OS X that raised the filename length limit but then I realized it was more likely that it was HFS+ vs. standard HFS. -Nat -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: SCSI ethernet adapter
On Wednesday, September 28, 2005, at 06:13 AM, Brian Harding wrote: I am going to assume it is the dumb 10baseT hub that I am missing that will make this setup work. I will report back when I get a chance to test it this way. Can't you 'force' whatever your trying to link to (router?? switch??) to 10baseT (and maybe single duplex) on the link to your Mac?? hth I looked into that, but I can't find a way to do it. I looked through the user manual as well with no luck. I'm going to try and pick up something cheap and used here soon and give it a try. -Nat -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Oregon Trail (was: Old school admins, anyone?)
On Tuesday, September 27, 2005, at 08:20 PM, Aaron Lockhart wrote: Actually, not to start a fight :O) I have the original CD that Oregon Trail 1.0 came on, there is a seperate file for the sounds, and there are numerous sounds through out the game. I'd be happy to send you a copy except for the fact that my CD Drive is broken right now. I think I know the URL that you are downloading from, if I remember correctly it is the Macintosh Garden mirror, I have downloaded that file, and have noticed a number of files missing. Yeah, I downloaded it from the Garden. But I played the same version years ago, when the game first came out on the Compact Mac platform, and there weren't any more sounds in the game then either. Only the bullet sound in the hunting mode. And that was *years* before the Garden came into existence-- it was an original install from the factory floppy disks. Perhaps they re-released the game on CD sometime later and added more sounds at that time. I don't know. What other kinds of sounds are there on that CD version? ...oh yea, who could forget SimCity 2000, in that pile of educational games, although I'm still not quite sure how me raising hell on a computer through riots and fires increased my brain power... but it sure was fun... :O) SimCity 2000 always was, and still is, my favorite incarnation of SimCity. ~A.J. Lockhart * [EMAIL PROTECTED] When All Else Fails; Play Dead...Red Green -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Old school admins, anyone?
AFAIK, the Oregon Trail version that was released for the compact Macs didn't have sound aside from when you shoot bullets in the Hunting mini-game. If you're not hearing sound here, turn your volume up. :) It was present even in version 1.0 Otherwise, the game is silent. There was no separate sound file. The PC and Apple ][ versions had many more sound effects in them, perhaps those are the ones you are thinking of. -Nat On Tuesday, September 27, 2005, at 02:59 PM, Thomas wrote: I found this cool site for downloading mac abandonware games-- some mentioned in this discussion. This link is directly to games in the learning category: http://tinyurl.com/984q7 I recently downloaded Oregon Trail, but it doesn't have sound...maybe the file is missing. Anyone have a copy with sound? On 9/27/05, Aaron Lockhart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lol, I'll always remember playing Oregon Trail 1.0, hunting, and, hoping you didn't get bit by a snake... Then who can forget Kix Pix Studio Deluxe... I remember the firecracker, that had the same effect as double clicking the eraser in MacPaint... Wow, fourth grade was so much fun with those ol' LC 580's... ha ha ha, well, thanks for bringing back the memmories... ~A.J. Lockhart * [EMAIL PROTECTED] When All Else Fails; Play Dead...Red Green http://www.geocities.com/spamfan15 MAC RECOURCES 4 YOU! --- On Sun 09/25, Scott Baret [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Scott Baret [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 20:22:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Old school admins, anyone? I've been on these lists for a few months now and am wondering if anyone was ever in my old position as a school computer admin from back in the day. I got my job in September 1992 and retired in August 2005 so I could do more freelance consulting and repair. Back when I started we had a ton of Classics, Pluses, SEs, and LCs. In my last few years we got new personel in our IT department (and Windows computers) and I wound up being the only one who knew how to operate on the older machines. My last job as an IT guy at my school was to donate 100+ older Macs from Classics to 5200s to a charity. I left with the Macs, in other words (but that wasn't a factor in my decision). Being in a school position I not only had the hardware and software experience in mass quantities (especially in the high school where the machines got abused), but I also got to try out a ton of academic software. This is what I am curious to...there don't seem to be any webpages dedicated to the history of Macintosh educational software and I am wondering what other people's opinions on the greatest software products for 68000-68030 Macs are. I like Super Solvers products (OutNumbered for math, Midnight Rescue for reading) the best for elementary kids. If anyone else has some experiences to share about these programs (or if you were a student in the late 80s-early 90s and you used these programs) let me know...one of my projects is to put together that missing webpage about Mac Education. Scott __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Compact Macs is sponsored by . Support Low End Mac Compact Macs list info: -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: To unsubscribe, email: For digest mode, email: Subscription questions: Archive: --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/ compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
SCSI ethernet adapter
Hey folks... I'm having a heck of a time trying to set up my Classic II with this stupid Asante Mini EN/SC adapter. I've got software installed, and the adapter is hooked up in my SCSI chain. It is the first physically connected device, with an external hard drive connected to it (the hard drive is terminated). Because of this, I disabled termination on the EN/SC itself. My problem is no matter what I do, I cannot get the stupid thing to work. Immediately upon plugging the CAT-5 cable into the port on the EN/SC, the light labeled Link Integrity starts blinking rapidly. The cable is good. I have tried multiple, known-good cables just to be sure. In the user manual for this thing, it has a table regarding the LED lights and what they mean. This light ON means it has a network connection. This light OFF means it does not. In the column for Rapid Blinking it says N/A for this light. WTF? Obviously it means SOMETHING, so why omit this information when you already took the time to make a table JUST FOR explaining what these lights mean when they blink? For example, in the Rapid Blinking column for the Network Activity light says something like Device is communicating with the network. They didn't have any trouble providing information for THAT light. Having that N/A for the Network Integrity light says to me that they're trying to tell me it should never blink. Well, obviously that is not correct because that's all it seems to do. This is really quite maddening because without that specific bit of information, I have no idea what the problem is or any idea how to proceed. FWIW, on the router I am trying to connect it too, none of the corresponding lights for the port I am connecting the Classic II to are lit telling me the router is not getting any signals from it at all. I have a PowerMac G4 connected to port 1 and a PowerMac C650 connected to port 2 and they both communicate just fine. The Router/Switch is a Linksys BEFSR41. I am hoping someone that has one of these Asante Mini EN/SC units can help me out here. Do I just happen to have a lemon on my hands? That would be too bad, because I've had this thing for ages, but just recently got a cable long enough to hook it up on my network and I've been excited to do so only to be brutally shot down. -Nat -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: SCSI ethernet adapter
On Sunday, September 25, 2005, at 01:42 PM, Daniel wrote: Hi Nat. I have a mini EN/SC and a Linksys MR314. The mini EN/SC works fine, but mine must be different from yours. Mine has a single DB-25 on it, so it has to be the last item in the chain. I have had my Plus hooked to an external SCSI drive hooked to the EN/SC, and had it work just fine. Have you tried yours in that order? Daniel Hi Daniel, No, yours is not different from mine. Mine is the same way but it came with (I think they all came with this from the factory) a special cable that as a sort of pass-through connector on it that allows you to plug other devices into it, therefor allowing it to be anywhere in the SCSI chain. I have not tried it after the external hard drive because that would mean dismantling the external hard drive casing, and then unmounting the drive inside to access the termination jumper on the underside of the drive. No, I didn't use a standard terminator on the second SCSI connector on the drive casing because the drive had it's own terminator jumper on it itself. I did, however, try disconnecting the external hard drive altogether so the EN/SC was the only device in the chain and then I activated it's own termination. The result was the same. Rapidly flashing Link Integrity light. No network connection. -Nat -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: posting with gmail
Gary: As you are entering a message, look carefully at the top of the box where Gmail lets you enter message text. There should be a small-font hyperlink option that saws Send message in plain-text format or something similar. Just click on it. You might have to first click the More options hyperlink to see that option, but I know it's there. If you can't find it in the top of the box, look at the bottom. I use my Gmail account with the PowerMac lists, and I had to toggle this option initially to get it to work. Once you do it once, it should save your preference for all future messages. At least, it did for me. -Nat On Thursday, September 15, 2005, at 07:57 AM, Liam Proven wrote: On 15/09/05, Gary Danko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That much I gathered, but I am trying to find out if there is a configurable option in gmail that I may have overlooked. I am all in favor of plain text for email, but I do not know how to enable that in gmail. I'm using Gmail. Works for me. No special configuration. Some weird character in your Gmail .sig? -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Anyone want to do up a SE/30?
On Friday, September 9, 2005, at 09:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A. J. Moss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a SE/30 that's in rather poor shape. The tabs holding SIMM 2 in place are broken, so any SIMM needs to be glued into place or it will fall out, and the floppy disk drive is worn out. I'll also include a dead Classic II, whose fault I can't diagnose. What are the symptoms? -Nat -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Microsoft BASIC
Hey folks.. I need a copy of the old Microsoft BASIC application. There is a link for it on System 6 Heaven, but it points to the VieuxMac Archive which no longer exists. I have been searching relentlessly elsewhere and I cannot find it, for the life of me. Anyone? Thanks... -Nat -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Here the photo of my collection :-)
What happens during the next earthquake? :) -Nat On Wednesday, August 10, 2005, at 05:13 PM, NODEraser wrote: Ok, that's just creepy. Are they all just stacked on top of each other? That looks like an accident waiting to happen, to me. On 8/10/05, Daniel Daplincourt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. In order to amuse: here the photo of my collection. It is a photo achieved with three photos. My local is not big enough in order to make the photo of all the computers at the same time. Is it beautiful? :-) Daniel in Belgium http://maccompactbelgium.skynetblogs.be/ -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Mac 512K cooling question
I have a Kensington System Saver installed on my Macintosh 512k. I remember reading or hearing somewhere that the old Macintoshes w/o internal fans (128k, 512k, Plus) would actually be kept cooler if the vents on the topside of the case were blocked off. Is this true? If so, is this still true even with a System Saver? I want to optimize the airflow as much as possible for a maximum cooling effect and hopefully extend the life of the parts a little bit. -Nat -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New Classic II
I have the FPU installed on mine. I have never seen or heard of anything else that will go there. The Classic II is a nice little computer, perhaps my favorite out of all the compacts. -Nat On Sunday, July 10, 2005, at 06:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apple's HDSC Set Up utility to initialize the disk? AFAIK there was only an FPU expansion card ever made for the expansion slot so you can add a math coprocessor to the 68030 chip -- you could also use it on an LC LC II (I assume with a right-angle adapter). I'm not aware of any kind of ROM expansion. Apple discouraged third party development for the slot, to the extent any such device would void the customer's warranty. On Jul 10, 2005, at 4:28 PM, Charles wrote: I found a Classic II at the local Good Will computer store for $5 - with a sticker AS IS. It started with black and white bars. I washed the mother board in Isopropal alcohol and it works!. From somethere I have a mother board for a Classic II but it looks different from the one that I bought in one respect. I believe it is the built in RAM on board. One of the motherboards has 4 memory chips and one has two. There is a ROM/FPU expansion slot. Is this something that was there but nothing was made to go there? However the hard drive does not work. Norton recognizes it but cannot do anything else. I have mount everything which tells me 'hardware problem' Norton tells me it is a Quantum Model CTS40s that does not have a HFS system. Can anythinng be done with this har drive? I may be looking to buy some memory and a modem in the future. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Happy Retirement...
These are all very good techniques to use if you are really worried about it. But do you really want to spend the time? Not to say I don't completely respect the ideals of protecting what is considered private information. First, I think it comes back to John Niven's point about anybody actually bothering. And if they did, what is the most damaging information that could be recovered? Student grades? Who is going to care except for the student in question? A while back I inherited 40 Macintosh computers (mostly SEs) from the University of Washington when they decided to clean house. The folks at the UW did not even bother to wipe the disks at all. I acquired 40 university computers with disks full of student, teacher, and personnel information combined with various reports, essays, and recommendation letters. Most of the machines belonged to teachers evidently, but there were a few lab machines in the mix. In the midst of all this, there is virtually no information at all that could be used to any ill end. Even on the teachers computers', the worst thing I found was on a Centris 650 that obviously had belonged to an administrator of some sort that listed various professors' salaries from 1986 through 1991. While mildly educational on the average Radiology professor's salary 20 years ago, there was little else the information could be used for aside for satisfying the urge to be really nosey. No SS or credit card numbers, or bank information. Names and addresses, sure, but you can get those looking in the phonebook, no? I ended up wiping most of them myself. Even if I had wanted to, it would have taken forever to look at everything on 40 different computer systems. anyway, the point is, I would not worry about wasting large amounts of time doing Government-level wipes on a bunch of school computers when it's 99% probable they don't contain much information that could be used for anything damaging. If you know for a fact some of them might have been used to store credit card information or things of that nature, I would concentrate my time doing thorough wipes of those particular disks and settle with regular formats on the rest of them. Though I find the possibility of any 'bad' information highly unlikely if these are computers from any kind of public school system. Especially if a large university didn't even see it worth their time to wipe anything. The bottom line is most people don't care enough to try. And if they do, they're going to be wasting their time. After all, it's not like these are computers from some kind of accounting office. -Nat On Wednesday, July 6, 2005, at 08:34 PM, Peter da Silva wrote: What would be a way to completely erase these drives so some undelete utility wouldn't pick up anything from our school? So long as you aren't worried about someone disassembling the drives so they can use analog techniques... If you just delete everything THEN fill the disk up with a bunch of files from another disk, and do that a couple of times, it's gonna be pretty unlikely there will be any unscrambled sectors containing useful info. You can try that and then run your undeleter and see what's left. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Classic Analogue Boards Update
On Thursday, June 30, 2005, at 12:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another interesting fact is the late model Classic IIs apparently had a speaker grill drilled into the left side from the factory! I've never seen one. I have a Classic II that I use almost daily to do my budget and finance stuff. In my closet, I have three backup Classic II machines (though all are missing the logic board, they are otherwise complete). I know at least one of them has the speaker grill on the side, maybe two have it. The one I'm thinking of has a manufacture date of December 1992. If you are interested in a picture, I can take one with the digital camera. -Nat -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Thanks...and some curiosities
Could've been a Miniscribe drive. These were common drives in the early 20SC SE models. If you turn it on and the hard drive sounds like some kind of home appliance in itself, it's probably a Miniscribe. -Nat On Tuesday, June 21, 2005, at 09:30 PM, Scott Baret wrote: By a Winchester I was referring to a unit about the size of a CD-ROM drive--a 5.25 drive. A book I read had called 5.25 drives Winchesters. Perhaps it was as a reference to their size compared to the standard hard drives of today. Scott -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: GuyProfiles.com email message...
On Thursday, June 16, 2005, at 09:26 PM, Antonio Rodrguez wrote: I didn't get it. Did anyone? Stuart Yep, came acroiss here. -J Yeah, I just got one from you, Stuart. Somebody is sending fake spam emails. It isn't too difficult to hack a message's From and Return-path fields, fooling the mailing list server and allowing you to post in the name of another person (I leave to the reader the exercice of how to do it ;-) ). But I think that sending gay porno spam is a childish and lame way of joking about people. Sincerely, I do not believe anybody with a bit of brain will take seriously that Stuart, the list nanny, is spamming the list. Of course, after this comment, I wouldn't be surprised if in the next hours more spam were sent to the list using my address as remitent :-P . Actually, I doubt it's anyone on the list. More likely is a trojan or worm that has found it's way onto a list member's hard drive and is simply plucking addresses from their Inbox, or in this case, their Compact Mac inbox. -Nat -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto: Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Mac 512k/AT MORE
Well I set it up with the 6300 sharing a ZIP-100 disk instead of the 4gig hard drive. Whaddyaknow, it works just great. Looks like the theory about large volumes shared under 9.x with older systems is correct. I suppose I could always partition the hard drive into smaller, shareable pieces but I think I'd rather just share from the ZIP disk for the 512k. Sure, I have to make sure it's in the drive every time I use the 512k but that's not too big a deal. -Nat On Tuesday, June 7, 2005, at 05:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eager to hear what happens. If the ZIP works, then you can easily partition your 6300 into smaller volumes, so no worries. On Jun 7, 2005, at 4:26 PM, Nat Hall wrote: So this was all starting to make sense until someone said the 4GB thing wasn't the problem. The hard drive in my 6300 is 4 gigabytes, with 3.1 gigabytes free. I'm going to try sharing a ZIP-100 disk instead of the hard drive, regardless, and see where that takes me. It's a bit of a pain, because if it works, it means I'll have to make sure that particular ZIP disk is in the 6300 every time I want to use the 512k. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Apple Macintosh SE(FDHD) Model : M5011 making a High Pitched Noise
I have an SE FDHD of the same model that does the EXACT same thing. Like you said, the noise REDUCES after a while but it never entirely disappears. After yet another period of time passes, the noise will again increase. This pattern continues indefinitely. I'm not sure what might be failing; there are no visible symptoms in the operation of the computer that might indicate a cause. The video picture looks fine, too. It's almost sounded to me at times like it was being emitted by the SE's speaker, actually. I've had, at times, over 40 various SE models and this is the only one to ever exhibit behavior like this... I don't ever use this particular one. I got it from a university, so who knows? -Nat On Monday, June 13, 2005, at 01:24 PM, Sean Billings wrote: 2. After 10 Minutes, the Apple Macintosh makes a high pitched noise. 3. After awhile, the noise reduces. I have a Classic II that does something very similar, I suspect it is a capacitor on the Analogue board, not sure which one is likely to be the candidate though. Regards Sean. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
BrainStorm SE accelerator
I just acquired a Brainstorm Accelerator for the Macintosh SE. I guess it accelerates a normal SE to 16Mhz. There is a replacement chip included to accelerate the SE's bus speed, in addition. Does anyone have one of these accelerators in their SE or ever used one? How do they stack up compared to other SE acceleration options, aside from sticking an SE/30 motherboard in an SE case? Are they common or rare? I'd never heard of one before until this one showed up on LEM Swap. This one looks to be brand new-in-box. From glancing over the documentation, it looks like they made a Brainstorm Plus accelerator that achieved the same functionality on a Plus. I've never accelerated a compact Mac before, so this should prove to be a little fun. I'm going to go install it now. I'll give my own verdict afterwards. -Nat -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Mac 512k/AT MORE
So this was all starting to make sense until someone said the 4GB thing wasn't the problem. The hard drive in my 6300 is 4 gigabytes, with 3.1 gigabytes free. That made sense and seemed logical from what you said originally as the cause of the trouble. Now I'm not so sure. I'm going to try sharing a ZIP-100 disk instead of the hard drive, regardless, and see where that takes me. It's a bit of a pain, because if it works, it means I'll have to make sure that particular ZIP disk is in the 6300 every time I want to use the 512k. If I had known this would happen I would not have upgraded to 9.1 on the 6300. The 6300 is used for little else aside from a server for the 512k and my home answering machine. I occasionally use it for games too new for the 68k platform and too old for OS 10.2.8 and as an intermediary for Apple II archives I grab from the 'net for the GS. But I figured, hey, newer is better and there are probably fewer bugs in 9.1 over 8.6. Little did I know probably the only ONE THING that broke happened to be one of the two features I was actually going to use. -Nat On Monday, June 6, 2005, at 10:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301183 As for the file size limitation, thanks for the info. I was basing mine on a poor understanding of this, which doesn't even cover AS v1, which is what we are both useing: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=15460 What then do you think could be causing our 512ks to crash when we try to access OS 9? And in my case, only my volumes over 3GB? Thanks! From: Clark Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 11:21 PM -0700 6/5/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One more thing about my set-up that differs from yours: I am running Apple Talk over TCP IP (checked in the File Sharing CP box) and connect my 512k to my network (6400/8.6 PB G3/9.2.2) via an AppleTalk to Ethernet bridge. That is not AppleTalk over TCP/IP but AppleShare over TCP/IP (ASIP). The 2Gb/4Gb limit is an AppleShare Filing Protocol (AFP) limit. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Mac 512k and AppleTalk
Hey listers... I have a Macintosh 512k connected via AppleTalk/PhoneNet to a PowerMac 6300. In the past, I was running OS 8.6 on the 6300 but I recently upgraded to 9.1. Since upgrading to 9.1, my 512k will no longer connect successfully to the 6300. I have the 512k set up to connect automatically on boot. The dialog comes up correctly asking me enter my username and password as normal. After entering the username and password, the 512k bombs with an error code of 04 (Divide by Zero) and I have to restart. I have tried logging on to the 6300 using the administrator account as well as the account I have set up specifically for the 512, and even as a Guest all to the same end. The only thing that has changed here is the upgrading of the 6300 to System 9.1. The 512k is booting into Macintosh OS System 2.0, I can't recall offhand what System file and Finder file versions that is. But it's listed as System 2.0 on various web/Apple resources. Anyway: does OS 9.1 break AppleTalk compatibility with 2.0? Do I need to upgrade my AppleTalk version on the 512k? What is causing my problem? Thanks in advance, Nat -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Reading a CD on a Classic II
Hi Steven, I'm willing to bet money your problem is that the CDs you are burning on your iBook are in HFS+ format. your Classic II will not read HFS+ formatted volumes. I'm also willing to bet you're using Toast 6.x or later. When you go to burn your CD, click on the Mac only button (like you said you tried). After doing that, there should be an option there to burn in HFS Standard. You might have to click the Advanced tab to get it to show up, but it's there. Make sure the HFS Standard box is checked, and you should be good to go. -Nat On Monday, May 23, 2005, at 05:07 PM, Steven E. Stanley wrote: Hi all, I have a mac classic II with an 8X's external cd drive that works well for all commercial cd's that I have tried (all cd's mount and run fine). I needed to transfer a few files from my ibook to my classic that are too large for a 1.4 mb floppy. However if I burn these files onto a CDR they will not mount on my classic II (I get a dialog box offering to format the cd). I know that CRRW's are incompatible with older Macs but have never had trouble mounting CDR's that I had burned to transfer files. I have tried both Mac only and Mac/PC formats with no success. Any help/ideas appreciated Thanks, Steve -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/ compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
