Re: Twin 1.4Mb floppy HD SE?

2003-04-05 Thread the pickle
At 04:37 -0500 on 05/04/03, John F. Scipione wrote:

Couldn't you stick a HDD on its side where the expansion slot would go?
  Their might not be enough room there for a 1/2 height drive, but there
is definitely enough room for a half-height drive.  Of course, you
couldn't actually mount the drive there, but it would work in a pinch.

Lots of people have done that, and there were several third-party upgrades for
it.

The biggest problem with them was PSU loading issues.  The SE's PSU is barely
robust enough for a hard disk of that era and a single floppy.  If you
encounter an SE upgraded in such a manner, in the interest of preservation, see
what you can do about finding a lower-power hard disk (newer, same RPM, and
equivalent capacity usually means lower power).
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Re: Overclocking a Mac Classic

2003-04-05 Thread the pickle
At 20:30 -0800 on 05/04/03, Alan O'Neil wrote:

My friend wishes to OC one of his many Mac Classics. It has been stated
somewhere that this is near impossible because ALL the I/O circuitry is
tied to thr processor. I've heard that it's been done (and stable) up to
and around 10MHz though. He has a 24MHz oscillator (to get 12MHz out of the
68000) in his hand and wants to try this out. Will he break anything by
testing it? BTW, his oscillator is the smaller, two-pin type, not the
larger 4-pin or whatever type.

That osciallator is gonna cause problems, most likely.  Get a 4-pin one.  Steal
one from a IIsi or LC II; there are plenty of crystal oscillators in the proper
package with the right frequency range.

I don't expect the video signal to work particularly well, and I'd be surprised
if the floppy drive and serial ports still work, but everything else might be
all right.
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Re: Overclocking a Mac Classic

2003-04-05 Thread the pickle
At 00:42 -0500 on 06/04/03, John F. Scipione wrote:

Ok, I have to ask, why the f0ck would you want to overclock a mac
classic?  It can't be that hard to get an SE/30 or classic II.  When
you are done overclocking the classic what exactly have you gained?

Education.

And overclocking the two examples you mention isn't any easier ;)
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Re: Twin 1.4Mb floppy HD SE?

2003-04-04 Thread the pickle
At 21:38 +0100 on 04/04/03, Stuart Bell wrote:

  Hi!

I know of SEs with a single 800Kb floppy,
with Twin 800Kb floppies
with 800Kb plus Hard drive.
with 1.4Mb floppy plus Hard drive,

but were there any with twin 1.4Mb floppies (or single 1.4Mb floppy
with no HD) ?

Not sold as stock.

But you can remove the HD from a single-floppy FDHD and put a second floppy in
it.  The SE is the only Mac that supports three floppy drives, either 800K or
1.4MB, without resorting to third-party solutions.
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Re: Twin 1.4Mb floppy HD SE?

2003-04-04 Thread the pickle
At 14:01 -0800 on 04/04/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I believe there was a 1.44 floppy with no HD, but not a twin 1.44 floppy
model. There were not double floppy connectors on the 1.44 floppy model
motherboards.

Actually, there are.  You're thinking of the SE/30.
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Re: How to network?

2003-04-03 Thread the pickle
At 20:40 -0700 on 03/04/03, Grayson Williams wrote:

(semi)unrelated question: where can I buy PRAM batteries these days?
Radio Shack didn't carry the one necessary for my 6300 when I last
looked.

That's because the Rayovac 840/841 has never been carried there ;)

Try some of the many other links in the FAQ.
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Re: A couple of conundrums

2003-04-01 Thread the pickle
At 06:27 -0500 on 01/04/03, John F. Scipione wrote:

This was a very common problem with SE logic boards. It's caused by an
RC filter that is shorting out. It's a 20-pin DIP package between the

It might also be a dirty floppy drive.  Does the internal work, and does the
external work fine on other Macs?

it because I think it may be related to problem 1.  I did my homework
on this one too and the best I could find is that I may have to solder
something on the analog board.  Does anybody have any more advise for

Yep.  I'm not entirely sure what, exactly, the problem component is, but the
first thing I'd do is make sure the luminosity cutoff was turned up a bit which
may solve the problem all by itself.

vertical board.  I have a mac 512 that has a nice working screen.  Are
the two compatible?  Could I swap out the CRT from the mac 512 into the

All BW Compact CRTs are identical.
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Re: How to network?

2003-03-31 Thread the pickle
At 16:40 -0700 on 31/03/03, Grayson Williams wrote:

of doing this? I have an Ethernet card in my SE, but it doesn't seem to
want to talk to my SMC 10/100 switch (or my 6400, which is running OS

Stick a hub between them and that oughta do it.

8.6). Ideally, I'd like to have the FreeBSD server be a
Netatalk/Samba/NFS server for the entire network, but would this be
unfeasible, in terms of getting my older Macs to talk to the network? I
suppose I could try a PhoneNet, but then could I use the 6400 as a
bridge between the LocalTalk and Ethernet networks?

Yup, or any other Mac with both interfaces.
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Re: One more question

2003-03-31 Thread the pickle
At 17:29 -0700 on 31/03/03, Grayson Williams wrote:

If I did put the older Macs on a Phonenet, and bridged them to the
Ethernet network, could I still give them Internet access that way
through the network, or is MacTCP too simple to allow that?

You'll need a MacIP server, like IPNetRouter, or Apple's Internet Router (very
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Re: Laserwriter purchase advice needed

2003-03-30 Thread the pickle
At 00:51 -0800 on 30/03/03, Dave Lee wrote:

OK, warning acknowldged.  Which one is faster and will work with an SE/30 and
G4
without necessarily depending on ethernet?

Anything in the LaserWriter Pro series can be had for the prices you're talking
about ($50-200) and will be substantially faster (and likely include Ethernet
as well).

If you want absolute lowest budget, go for a IIf or IIg.  If you'd prefer a bit
more speed, go with something in the Pro series or a Select 360.

You might also consider HP models with M in the name (the 6MP is a good one
and is readily available under $150).
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Re: Laserwriter purchase advice needed

2003-03-30 Thread the pickle
At 21:20 -0500 on 30/03/03, Bill Brown wrote:

There are some well published and respected Mac gurus out there that will
say Well to our -p's advice to this one. A first question is does
the user even want to do PostScript. Without starting a flame war here,

The reason is that QuickDraw-based laser printers *DO NOT WORK* on anything
past 8.1, so if you want to share it with anything later - which many people,
including the OP, do - the QuickDraw lasers are absolutely worthless.
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Re: Laserwriter purchase advice needed

2003-03-30 Thread the pickle
At 17:04 -0800 on 30/03/03, Dave Lee wrote:

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 Anything in the LaserWriter Pro series can be had for the prices you're
talking
 about ($50-200) and will be substantially faster (and likely include Ethernet
 as well).

Will the Pro 630 work with an SE/30?  Will an HP printer work with an SE/30
other
than through ethernet?

Every single Apple laser printer ever made will work with an SE/30.

I can't think of a single Mac-compatible HP laser printer from before about
2001 that won't work with an SE/30 either.
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Re: Laserwriter purchase advice needed

2003-03-30 Thread the pickle
At 17:03 -0800 on 30/03/03, Dave Lee wrote:

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 The Pro series is *great* if you can find one for a good price, too.

What would a good price be considered for a Pro 630?  And how high is high
for a
page count?

Price: check eBay to get a feel for prices, but also check any local
universities.  I can get Pro 630s for about $100 at worst.

Page counts: the engines are rated around a million pages, IIRC.  Anything
under 100K is decent, and anything under 50K is pretty good.  Anything under
10K is amazing.
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Re: Laserwriter purchase advice needed

2003-03-29 Thread the pickle
At 15:39 -0800 on 29/03/03, Dave Lee wrote:

Which one is the best one for the money?  I think I can get the cheapest one
for

None of the above.

Get one with Ethernet; it'll be easier to use with the G4 and any others you
might have, and the G4 won't like the non-PostScript PLWs or early Selects.

The IIg is a good choice, and the Select 360 would be another good choice.

The 4/600 is really slow, not much faster than the PLWs, really, and all the
PLWs are about the same speed.
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Re: Laserwriter purchase advice needed

2003-03-29 Thread the pickle
At 16:43 -0800 on 29/03/03, Dave Lee wrote:

And if I decided that ethernet wasn't so important?  Which one would you (or
anyone
here) recommend?  Also is there an easy way to check for page count.

Make absolutely sure you get one with PostScript, but beyond that there isn't a
lot of difference amongst the pre-1992 printers.  Page counts should be
available with a test page from Apple Printer Utility.
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Re: Laserwriter purchase advice needed

2003-03-29 Thread the pickle
At 03:25 +0200 on 30/03/03, Marten van de Kraats wrote:

The disadvantage of the select 360 is the lack of ethenet support,
but I agree: it is a fine machine. I would prefer a IIg because of
the ethernet and the relatively cheap and widely available toners.
There are some other interesting options too.

Big thing I personally don't like about the II-series in general is the 300 dpi
output and slow overall speed compared to later ones.

The Pro series is *great* if you can find one for a good price, too.
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Re: Laserwriter purchase advice needed

2003-03-29 Thread the pickle
At 18:17 -0800 on 29/03/03, Dave Lee wrote:

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 Big thing I personally don't like about the II-series in general is the 300
dpi
 output and slow overall speed compared to later ones.

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I have narrowed it down to a Laserwriter 4/600 printer which does have
Postscript
Level 2.  Now would I be able to run this printer from System 7.1 by chance,
anyone
know?

Yeah, should work fine.   But let it be known that I'm warning you ahead of
time that that printer is slow as hell.
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Re: SE/30 upgrade ram tips

2003-03-28 Thread the pickle
At 16:17 + on 28/03/03, aedan mcghie/scotland wrote:

On Friday, Mar 28, 2003, at 15:49 Europe/London, Jeff Walther wrote:

 But I've electrocuted myself so many times over the years,

U...

 From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913):

Electrocute \E*lectro*cute`\, v. t. [Electro- + cute in
execute.]
To execute or put to death by electricity. --
E*lec`tro*cution, n.

I think it's more likely you had a few shocks.

aedan

If at first you don't succeed then sky diving isn't for you.

Very appropriate sig, considering the context. :)
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Re: SE/30 upgrade ram tips

2003-03-28 Thread the pickle
At 13:23 -0800 on 28/03/03, Dave Lee wrote:

From the Full of Mac website:  (SE/30)

Did you translate that yourself, or did you use a translation engine?  (Or was
it already translated?)  That's a *very* good translation of Japanese...
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Re: Networking in the poor man's way

2003-03-28 Thread the pickle
At 13:43 -0800 on 28/03/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Sounds even easier than my suggestion. Here's a question. Can you use
phonenet adapters to connect macs in different romms of a house, using the
in wall phone wiring of a house, and instead of connecting a resistor as a
terminator, plus a phone into the adapter as a pass through for calls?

Just use the black and yellow wires in the circuit, assuming the house was
wired with 4-wire fone cable.  Black and yellow aren't used - the red and green
are the tip and ring and are the only two wires a fone uses.
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Re: Networking in the poor man's way

2003-03-28 Thread the pickle
At 15:37 -0700 on 28/03/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Seems feasible then as long as you have a dual plug wall jack and label them
correctly. Have you tried it?

I personally don't prefer doing it because my house isn't wired with
twisted-pair fone cable, the lack of which can lead to LocalTalk interference
when the fone is in use.  But it works fine otherwise.
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Re: Networking in the poor man's way (part II)

2003-03-28 Thread the pickle
At 01:12 +0100 on 29/03/03, Antonio Rodríguez wrote:

What do you mean by phonenet? At first I thought it was the telephone
network, but later I realised you were talking of some kind of adapter to
use phone twisted pair cable to coonect two macs... that should be almost
the same as making a direct null-modem connection. Am I right?

Very similar, yes, but not identical, and a lot faster than a null modem
connection.  Much easier to use, too.  The adapters plug into the serial port
and give two RJ-11 jacks.  Each end of the network needs to be terminated with
a 120 Ohm resistor across its two data pins.  More info at threemacs.com or
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Re: Need Web Space Recommendation

2003-03-27 Thread the pickle
At 17:39 -0500 on 27/03/03, Hardy Menagh wrote:

I posted a while back when Marten was looking for a Plus battery,
suggesting he make one. I just finished using Claris Home Page to
make a simple page with illustrations for the instructions I posted.
iCab frowned at it but rendered it acceptably.

I'm looking for some free in italics space to put the page. I would
like it to be well established, reliable and accessible by text only
browsers like MacWWW as well as more current ones. Fixed banners are
acceptable if absolutely necessary. Pop-ups and floaters are not.

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Re: Hakko Solder Pencil (was Re: weird SE/30 video problem)

2003-03-27 Thread the pickle
At 20:52 -0500 on 27/03/03, CP Jacobs wrote:

Well I haven't gotten to the SE/30 board yet, but I was planning to flux
the caps first and then use a solder sucker in conjunction with the Hakko.

What?  Did someone say flux capacitor?

Is that a one jiggawatt iron, or two?
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Re: 128k software

2003-03-27 Thread the pickle
At 05:03 +0100 on 28/03/03, Antonio Rodríguez wrote:

I think you should also take into account another thing. Starting from the Mac
IIfx (I
believe), almost all Macintoshes doesn't use the main CPU for diskette I/O,
but use a
custom processor in order to improve speed and free the main CPU. This means
that if

Actually, the IIfx and Q9x0 are the only ones that do.

Oh, and by the way, here is one question for anyone that wants to answer it:
to use a
SuperDrive in a Mac that only has 800k disk drives, what do you have to do?
ROM update,
hardware patch...?

Depends on the Mac.  The SE and Mac II both require a new ROM and floppy
controller; earlier Macs can't use SuperDrives at all, and later Macs allow
them to be dropped right in.
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Re: Color Screen Transplant

2003-03-26 Thread the pickle
At 16:22 -0800 on 26/03/03, Chad Norvell wrote:

Yeah, so I suspected. How about sticking an SE/30 motherboard in a Color
Classic?

And the point would be...?
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Re: Color Screen Transplant

2003-03-26 Thread the pickle
At 17:12 -0800 on 26/03/03, Chad Norvell wrote:

the pickle wrote:

At 16:22 -0800 on 26/03/03, Chad Norvell wrote:



Yeah, so I suspected. How about sticking an SE/30 motherboard in a Color
Classic?



And the point would be...?



As I understand it, the SE/30 hardware has the capability of utilizing a
color screen. Therefore, if you could wire the SE/30 hardware into a
Color Classic case, you would essentially have a color SE/30.

Which isn't all that much better than a CC except for its higher RAM limit and
32-bit data bus.

And you can't put a 575 mobo in an SE/30.
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Re: SE/30

2003-03-26 Thread the pickle
At 22:15 -0500 on 26/03/03, John F. Scipione wrote:

If one had a faster 68030 chip, could one replace the stock 16 mhz chip

Why would you bother?  You can't overclock them.
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Re: Unstuffing on System 6

2003-03-25 Thread the pickle
At 02:12 -0500 on 25/03/03, John F. Scipione wrote:

I have an issue that I want to ask the expertise on this list about.
How can one unstuff  Stuffit 5 files on a 68000 based mac?  Stuffit 4

Use MindExpander.
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Re: SE/30 logic board

2003-03-25 Thread the pickle
At 15:10 -0800 on 25/03/03, Snook, John R wrote:

It will not boot from an internal HDD without a terminator on the external
SCSI port.
What could cause this?

Missing terminators on the hard disk ;)
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Re: Mac Classic and a 540 Mb SCSI hard drive

2003-03-24 Thread the pickle
At 22:15 -0600 on 24/03/03, Mycroft wrote:

3) What SCSI ID should I give to the new drive?

Anything except 1 or 7.  Try 3.

Make that 0 or 7, but yeah :)
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Re: File Sharing with System 6

2003-03-24 Thread the pickle
At 20:32 -0800 on 24/03/03, Dave Lee wrote:

OK, I don't want to run System 7 on my Plus or SE, but I do want to network
them
together.  How do I do that?  I installed Appleshare.  How do you use it?  I

Gamba's site.  There's a link in the FAQ.
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Re: Imagewriter any good?

2003-03-24 Thread the pickle
At 20:30 -0800 on 24/03/03, Dave Lee wrote:

I won a mac Plus with about 200 floppies full of software as well as keyboard,
early
optical mouse, and original Imagewriter on ebay last week.  I won this package
for
$26.  Is it worth paying the shipping for an Imagewriter?

Definitely NOT.
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Re: Printer for Mac Classic

2003-03-23 Thread the pickle
At 12:10 +0100 on 23/03/03, Rufus wrote:

Thanks, Marten. I think my friend will look for a low end Laserwriter
like a Personal Laserwriter or a Laserwriter Select. Does the Classic
print on all of these models, or are there limitations?

I can't think of any Apple-branded laser printer that a Classic *won't* work
with.

The original LaserWriter and LaserWriter Plus may be difficult to find cables
and toner for, however, so I'd avoid those two models.  Anything in the
II-series or newer is fine.
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Re: Printer for Mac Classic

2003-03-23 Thread the pickle
At 16:45 +0100 on 23/03/03, Marten van de Kraats wrote:

At 12:10 +0100 on 23/03/03, Rufus wrote:

Thanks, Marten. I think my friend will look for a low end Laserwriter
like a Personal Laserwriter or a Laserwriter Select. Does the Classic
print on all of these models, or are there limitations?

I can't think of any Apple-branded laser printer that a Classic *won't* work
with.

The 2400, 2500 and later inkjet models are not compatible with a 68000.

Note use of word laser in previous post ;)
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Re: weird SE/30 video problem

2003-03-23 Thread the pickle
At 19:08 -0500 on 23/03/03, CP Jacobs wrote:

gamba wrote:
One of these days I'm gonna put this on a webpage, and out-faq the pickle. :-)

Me too: I wrote the HTML for this TWO years ago; it's still sitting on my
HD and STILL haven't found the time to finish it yet.  I wanted to solder
the new caps and then give a full report; as you can tell I haven't got
around to it yet.  Please don't send me a round tuit :-)

Get a round tuit. :-p

As far as soldering, I specifically bought the Larry Pina-recommended Hakko
Mach I solder pencil.  It's worked great so far.

How much did that run ya, and where'd you get it?
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Re: SE/30 logic board repair

2003-03-23 Thread the pickle
At 17:36 -0800 on 23/03/03, Snook, John R wrote:

I got this board from a guy who said it didn't work right and he was going to
through it out. I got him to send it to me. He messed up and put it in a tyvac
envelope, and when I

Tyvek is static heaven.  I'd be extremely surprised if nothing on the board was
damaged by static in shipping.
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Re: The Incredible Machine 2

2003-03-23 Thread the pickle
At 19:58 -0800 on 23/03/03, Dave Lee wrote:

 This coming from a guy who cannot win at Scarab of Ra.

 I don't know of anyone who's gotten past about level 12, but then again, I
 haven't spent days on end playing it ;)

 Anyone around here beaten it?

Man I played it last night and couldn't figure how to use the key to get
through the
door!

Select the key and then run the Use command. :)
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Re: Stylewriter Printer Drivers

2003-03-21 Thread the pickle
At 05:29 -0600 on 21/03/03, Carl Miller wrote:

I downloaded the Stylewriter 1500 printer drivers off of the Apple website
in hopes of getting my 1200 in business. But, after I got the drivers to my
Mac Classic II I could not get them to show up in the Chooser.

The only connection I have to the internet is via PC so I downloaded the
drivers and copied them to diskette using Trans Mac. When I copied the disks
and took them to my Mac they all expanded normally when double clicked and I
put them in the extensions folder with the rest of the drivers. I restarted
my Mac, but, nothing appeared in the Chooser and the three drivers remained
3 seperate documents in the extensions folder.

Your procedure is fine.

I suspect the printer or cable may not be working properly.
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Re: Stylewriter Printer Drivers

2003-03-21 Thread the pickle
At 19:54 -0500 on 21/03/03, John F. Scipione wrote:

DB-25 cables, and I need a minidin8 to minidin8 cable.  Does anyone
know where I can get a minidin8 to minidin8 cable on the cheap or a way
to convert a minidin8 to DB-25 cable into a minidin8 to minidin8 cable?

There aren't any for converting, but you oughta be able to find a Mini-DIN8 to
Mini-DIN8 cable on Swaplist or eBay for a couple bucks.
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Re: Project Crossroads...

2003-03-20 Thread the pickle
At 05:27 -0600 on 20/03/03, Jack Gallemore wrote:

Several issues such as limited expansion and battery replacement.

I don't see how building one into an SE solves any of those problems.  The only
practical way to drive the Portable's LCD is with a Portable mobo...
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Re: ImageWriter II

2003-03-20 Thread the pickle
At 18:54 -0500 on 20/03/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Anyone know of where there is a downloadable manual for the ImageWriter II?

Other than Apple's site, or did you want the service manual?
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Re: ImageWriter II

2003-03-20 Thread the pickle
At 23:05 -0500 on 20/03/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In a message dated 3/20/03 6:02:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Anyone know of where there is a downloadable manual for the ImageWriter II?

Other than Apple's site, or did you want the service manual?
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Try manuals.info.apple.com.
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Re: Project Crossroads...

2003-03-19 Thread the pickle
At 14:44 -0600 on 19/03/03, Jack Gallemore wrote:

I've come to a crossroads on my SE/040/CD project.  I've got a quandry on
displays.  Is a Mac Portable worth the effort to put in my SE or should I try
to find the necessary battery and power adapter and have a luggable on my desk
as well?  I've got a 9 inch 12V color monitor that I could put in the project,
but Portable LCD would be nice option.  Opinions please.

Why would you be destroying a Portable to build it into an SE?  The Portable is
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Re: Keyboard with Plus

2003-03-19 Thread the pickle
At 21:35 + on 19/03/03, AT wrote:

Can anyone help to find me the correct file such that my Plus will
work with a keyboard from a 512k?

They're the same keyboard.
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Re: Mac Plus ROM and case color (was Re: Mac Plus video trouble)

2003-03-19 Thread the pickle
At 13:46 -0800 on 19/03/03, Dave Lee wrote:

--- Hardy Menagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Macintosh Plus ROM history
[truncated for brevity]

Wow, fascinting.  How do I find out which ROM revision I have.  Would the Now
Utilities Now Profiler or Norton System Profiler work?

Try TattleTech.
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Re: Keyboard with Plus

2003-03-19 Thread the pickle
At 18:14 -0800 on 19/03/03, Clark Martin wrote:

At 8:59 PM -0500 3/19/2003, the pickle wrote:
At 21:35 + on 19/03/03, AT wrote:

Can anyone help to find me the correct file such that my Plus will
work with a keyboard from a 512k?

They're the same keyboard.


Same style, but different keyboards.  The Plus all the keys of a 512K
keyboard and a numeric keypad with arrow keys (and yet Jobs lives).

Not necessarily.  I've seen both that were claimed to be original with each
machine.  Methinks mebbe it was an option, at least for a time.
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Re: Avid Compact User Seeks Help For a Lisa...

2003-03-17 Thread the pickle
At 22:28 + on 17/03/03, Phil Beesley wrote:

On Monday, March 17, 2003, at 08:00 PM, (Compact Macs) wrote:

 Now, at my
 place of work, I've discovered a Lisa 2 hiding in a
 closet, complete with two Profile hard drives. Here's
 the dilemma. The Profile cables are missing. Would
 regular RS-232 cables work?

Dear Concerned in Connecticut,

I have an original Profile cable in front of me. It is a regular 25 pin
ribbon cable with a male D connector at each end about 36 in length.
Pin 1 is connected to pin 1. Pin 7 is removed on one D connector -- the
one that plugs into the Apple II, III or, in your case, Lisa.

Is there normally any signal on pin 7 coming from the computer?  IOW, is there
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Re: Mac Plus with Jasmine Backpac 20

2003-03-17 Thread the pickle
At 22:29 -0800 on 17/03/03, Dave Lee wrote:

So I was trying to network the Plus to my SE/30 running 7.1 so I could save
some of
the larger programs on it that wouldn't fit on an 800k floppy.  But I was
unable to
get the Plus to show up on the SE/30's chooser.  The SE/30 would show up on the
Plus's chooser but it told me that not all the software was installed to do
that
sort of thing.  Before I even saw the SE/30 show up, I had to install
Appleshare.

Yeah, you need to have a look at the System 6 file sharing options on Gamba's
site.  You might also want to grab a fresh 6.0.8 from Apple.  There's a link in
the FAQ.

The other question is, this Energizer 4.5v battery looks pretty old and I
would like
to replace it.  Where can I find one?

Good luck, since that model has been discontinued, but there are some starting
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Re: weird SE/30 video problem

2003-03-16 Thread the pickle
At 15:02 +1000 on 16/03/03, Adam wrote:

 Why would you use tantalums instead of more electrolytics (as recommended
at
 the above site)?

snip

 Three reasons:
 1..They are more reliable
 2..They are more available, at least around here.
 3..They are easier to install.

Thanks for letting me know that :). Should the solder pads lift off during
the operation, is there anything that can glue them back in place and resist
the heat of soldering?

*Maybe* a high-temperature epoxy, but you'll probably have better luck just
hoping they don't lift off.  The quicker you can melt the solder and get the
caps off, the less likely they are to pull away, so use a high-temp iron and
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Re: weird SE/30 video problem

2003-03-16 Thread the pickle
At 14:52 -0800 on 14/03/03, Gamba wrote:

At startup there is no chime, and the video that comes up is
comprised of the normal pattern but superimposed on it is more vertical
line junk.
Dave

One of these days I'm gonna put this on a webpage, and out-faq the pickle. :-)

As soon as you get around to that, I'll gladly add a link.
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Re: Interesting 512Kb Mac with SCSI on eBay

2003-03-16 Thread the pickle
At 21:41 -0500 on 08/03/03, Bill Brown wrote:

Yo compacters everywhere,

I read where our -p (aka: the pickle) sez:

Ask around. You can get fairly capable LaserWriter II-series machines for
about the same price (or free, in lots of cases) that don't have the OS
issues that the PLW series does..

Uhh... I've got me a Personal LaserWriter 300 here that plugs up to every
Mac serial port I have running System 7.1 through 8.6 and it is just fine.

Yep, that was one of the PostScript ones.

There were several PLWs and LW Selects that were QuickDraw-only and were
dropped after OS 8.1.  I only mentioned it because I know most folks around
here have multiple Macs and probably don't want to have to use a separate
printer just for the older ones if possible.
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Re: Avid Compact User Seeks Help For a Lisa...

2003-03-16 Thread the pickle
At 03:56 +0100 on 17/03/03, Antonio Rodríguez wrote:

Perhaps if you can take some tension measures on the ports of the Lisa and
the ProFile with them powered on, we could be a bit more sure... Let's see

And for those of you not proficient en español, tension is the Spanish word
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Re: weird SE/30 video problem

2003-03-14 Thread the pickle
At 13:19 -0800 on 14/03/03, Dave Lee wrote:

I put a brand new battery in the motherboard thinking this may have been the
cause.
It still had the same problem.  I also read the reseating the ROM Simm and the
RAM
chips may help.  It didn't.

Might be a loose ROM SIMM, and I think Gamba has a few tips on bad capacitors
that can cause something similar.
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Re: All This Talk About Virii?

2003-03-13 Thread the pickle
At 21:47 -0800 on 12/03/03, Gamba wrote:

This found at umich site:

/mac/util/virus/merryxmasvaccine3.0.sit.hqx
 149  9/9/95BinHex4.0,StuffIt3.50

   Elimintes the script-based viruses called merryxmas
   and Pickle.

Yep :)  I happen to share a name with an old HyperCard-based virus.
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Re: dayna port scsi/link-3 dp0802

2003-03-13 Thread the pickle
At 01:43 +1100 on 14/03/03, Darren wrote:

localtalk. no success using mactcp to a ics doze box but I'll put more

Unless ICS is putting out a static IP, it won't work.  MacTCP can't do dynamic
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Re: Drivers for Jaz

2003-03-12 Thread the pickle
At 15:17 -0800 on 12/03/03, Joshua wrote:

 Does anyone know where I can find older drivers for a
Iomega Jaz drive? I bought a Jaz drive and want to use
it with my old macs. Thanks

Does it work without drivers?
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Re: All This Talk About Virii?

2003-03-10 Thread the pickle
At 09:04 -0400 on 10/03/03, Jason White wrote:

With all this talk about this Bugbear virus lately (mostly on the other
lists I subscribe to), I was wondering, Is there a virus protection
program that will run on my SE/30? The only one I know of is
Disinfectant, and that program is several years old. In my eyes, that

Disinfectant is perfectly sufficient to detect any virus that affects a 68K
Mac, because the last new Mac virus was written in about 1998 and only affects
OS 8.5 and up, IIRC.  The last 68K virus was written well before Disinfectant
was abandoned.

The only problem you *might* have is with Word Macro viruses, and unless you're
using Word 6 or higher, I'm pretty sure they're not an issue either.

And God help you if you're using Word 6.
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Re: All This Talk About Virii?

2003-03-10 Thread the pickle
At 18:13 -0400 on 10/03/03, Jason White wrote:

Disinfectant is perfectly sufficient to detect any virus that affects a 68K
Mac, because the last new Mac virus was written in about 1998 and only
affects
OS 8.5 and up, IIRC.  The last 68K virus was written well before Disinfectant
was abandoned.

Oops, forgot to ask this in my last post: What's the 'latest' version of
DisInfectant?

3.7.1 IIRC.
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Re: Virus fun

2003-03-09 Thread the pickle
At 07:54 -0800 on 09/03/03, Gamba wrote:

Does the attachment need to be opened for the virus to work?

On the PC, probably not, if OE is still in whatever its horrible factory
default preview mode is.  I think just previewing the message is sufficient to
spread the infection in most cases.
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Re: Zeroing Drives

2003-03-09 Thread the pickle
At 10:55 -0800 on 09/03/03, Martin A. Totusek wrote:

In my MUG, users have found that using Drive Setup or HD SC Setup does not
completely

Even using the Zero All Data option?
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Re: dayna port scsi/link-3 dp0802

2003-03-08 Thread the pickle
At 23:09 + on 08/03/03, Steven Moore wrote:

I've got 2 SEs a classic a se/30 and 2 imacs. I want to network one of
the compacts to the imacs via a router. I recently came across  a dayna
port scsi/link-3 scsi to ethernet adapter, it came with a software disk
that installs on the classic okay. The problem is that there was no
electrical adapter and no scsi cable. I think I need a 25d male to 25d
male scsi cable but I don't know the voltage, current and input
polarity of the power supply.

Aren't the SCSI-Ethernet adapters usually +12 V, 1000 mA, centre positive?
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Re: MacWorld Premiere issue

2003-03-08 Thread the pickle
At 23:57 + on 08/03/03, macotaku wrote:

I have one right here at the moment which I'm scanning for a friend of
mine, it belongs to him so I thought a PDF would be better then nothing
and then I found that one Macworld on ebay and did the buy it now.

Anyone any ideas how to best preserve it? I was told to enclose it in a
plastic freezer back and suck all air out.

Make sure the bag is intended for archiving paper.  A lot of plastics are
mildly acidic and/or UV-sensitive, and will degrade over time (and take the
paper with them).
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Re: Virus fun

2003-03-08 Thread the pickle
At 20:00 -0800 on 08/03/03, Gamba wrote:

I fired off a Forward to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and their automated response
says it's a virus from the earthlink servers.

I'm gonna take a wild guess that this might be of interest:

http://mail.maclaunch.com/Lists/quadlist/Message/17963.html
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Re: Virus fun

2003-03-08 Thread the pickle
At 20:31 -0800 on 08/03/03, Gamba wrote:

Does the original poster say what the attachment was called?
I looked at it with ResEdit (it had only data fork) and the only
deciperable line was This program will not run in DOS mode, or some such

No, but the attachment names aren't diagnostic either, as they're usually
randomised by the virus code.
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Re: Classic II in network

2003-03-06 Thread the pickle
At 13:01 +0100 on 06/03/03, Rufus wrote:

If I connect the Classic II to the DSL router with a
SCSI-to-ethernet-adapter, will the Classic II (system 7) be able to
make use of the DSL internet connection (DHCP server)? And will it be
able to print on the network printer?

Once you install Open Transport, it should work on the 'net, but the network
printer probably won't work unless there are already Mac drivers for it, or
it's a PostScript printer.
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Re: Classic II in network

2003-03-06 Thread the pickle
At 13:29 +0100 on 06/03/03, Rufus wrote:

The router's docs don't mention anything about a possible Appletalk
compatibility for the integrated print server. Will a Laserwriter
12/640 print anyway, even if the print job is sent from a Classic II
with system 7? I don't know if Appletalk or IP has to be used for
printing, and don't know if the DSL router (W-Linx 401 S) is able to
route Appletalk.

If the print server doesn't handle AppleTalk, you'll have to use IP printing,
and that's probably going to be rather slow on the Classic II.

Most routers will handle AppleTalk packets on the wired side, but I'm not
familiar *at all* with that brand or model.
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Re: Networking with OS X

2003-03-06 Thread the pickle
At 19:07 -0800 on 06/03/03, iMac wrote:

I've read everything I could find, and I still can't get my SE/30

Including the excellent tutorial on System 6 Heaven?
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Re: Interesting 512Kb Mac with SCSI on eBay

2003-03-05 Thread the pickle
At 07:14 -0600 on 05/03/03, Jack Gallemore wrote:

shrugging I suppose so.  I'm just a luddite miser at heart, I guess.  I
struggled with paying $6 for a clean Personal LaserWriter yesterday.

I would too.  But that's because the PLW series are generally pieces of junk ;)
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Re: Interesting 512Kb Mac with SCSI on eBay

2003-03-05 Thread the pickle
At 07:29 -0600 on 05/03/03, Jack Gallemore wrote:

Yeah, but I can't seem to find a decent LaserJet for the same price.

Ask around.  You can get fairly capable LaserWriter II-series machines for
about the same price (or free, in lots of cases) that don't have the OS issues
that the PLW series does.
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Re: About my questions

2003-03-05 Thread the pickle
At 03:13 +0100 on 06/03/03, Antonio Rodríguez wrote:

with the default application icon before that). But I have a bunch of
ShrinkIt files copied via TransMac and a 1.44 Mb dikette that aren't
associated. I think that the problem is that the filetype/creator of the
files aren't correct. What should them be for ShrinkIt archives?

You've likely hit the proverbial nail on the head with the problem, but I
haven't a clue what the default creator code is for those files.
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Re: SE power supply question

2003-03-05 Thread the pickle
At 15:17 -0800 on 05/03/03, Snook, John R wrote:

On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 10:49 PM, Snook, John R wrote:

 Hi.
 I need to make the 12v sweep off a SE and SE/30 power supply.
 I have no idea what it is.
 If someone can help me figure this out, I will build a 150w SE power
 supply.

John,
I'm not 100% clear what you're asking. Do you mean you want to know the
pin-outs of the connectors from the PSU to the a/b and l/b on an SE?
Stuart
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Sorry, I want to build a circuit to make the 12v sweep, but I don't know what
it is.
johnsn

What do you mean, you don't know what it is?

You don't know what the parameters of the circuit are?  You don't know what
waveform it uses?  You don't know frequency?  There are a lot of issues there...
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Re: Interesting 512Kb Mac with SCSI on eBay

2003-03-04 Thread the pickle
At 07:04 -0600 on 04/03/03, Jack Gallemore wrote:

Yeah, but $50??? :-)

IMO, that's not a bad price for such a rare piece of hardware.
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Re: SE/30 Ethernet Freeze

2003-03-04 Thread the pickle
At 22:31 -0500 on 04/03/03, Sean Murphy wrote:

Got an Asante MacCon ethernet card in my SE/30 which freezes the
machine or aborts the transfer whenever I try to transfer files.
Localtalk works fine, but on ethernet I get this problem. This card

What driver version is the SE/30 running?  Same ones that were in the IIsi?
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Re: Questions about a Mac Classic with System 6

2003-03-04 Thread the pickle
At 05:31 +0100 on 05/03/03, Antonio Rodríguez wrote:

I'm Antonio Rodríguez, a.k.a. _Grijan_, from Spain. I joined this list a

Hola, mi amigo.  Bienvenidos a Compact Macs. :)

1) I would love to create HyperCard stacs, but I only have the free viewer.
HyperCard is supossed to be commercial software, but searching the web I've
seen that Apple has dropped its development. Where can I download the full
version of HyperCard from?

I haven't ever seen a (pirated) version of HyperCard on the WWW, but I'll bet
money you can find it on Hotline somewhere.  Boy, there's a case for
abandonware if there ever was one.

2) How can I convert documents from WriteNow to MS Word and back? Where can
I get a version of MS Word and/or MS Excel that works on my Classic?

Word...uhmmm...double-check with System 6 Heaven on this, but I think version 4
is the latest that'll run on System 6.  Converting between versions of Word
that old and whatever the last version of WriteNow was *should* be built into
one or both programs, but if it's not, see if you can go through an RTF
intermediate.

3) I have a number of 1 Mb, 30-contact SIMMs obtained from broken 386-based
PCs. Can I use them to upgrade my Classic to 4 Mb? If so, do I have to take
anything into account when doing that? How should I set the jumpers in the
memory expansion board?

There's a label next to the jumper, but I can't remember what it says.  Remind
me :)

4) Where can I obtain the information on how to build a cable to connect an
ImageWriter I to the MiniDIN port of my Classic?

Search Google for Loten am Mac and brush up on your German ;)

5) With some of the file types (if not all), it happens to me that when I
try to open the file from the Finder, it says me that the application can't
be found. But when I open the application, the file shows in the open
dialog, and I can open it without trouble. How can I fix it?

Rebuilding the desktop might help.

6) Where can I obtain a mouse for an old Mac (128/512/Plus)? You know, the
kind of mouse that is *NOT* ADB, but connects to the back of the Mac using
a DB-9 connector. Of course, it isn't for my Classic (that has no DB-9
mouse port), but for my Apple //c (my first computer); this kind of mouse
works fine in the joystick/mouse port of the Apple //c.

Other than eBay?  Try the Swaplist...
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Re: Questions about a Mac Classic with System 6

2003-03-04 Thread the pickle
At 05:50 +0100 on 05/03/03, Antonio Rodríguez wrote:

At the risk of seeming an idiot... how can I rebuild the desktop? Remember
that I'm

Hold down cmd-option whilst booting it.
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Re: Jaz, Syjet, Ez-Flyer

2003-03-03 Thread the pickle
At 15:48 -0800 on 03/03/03, Joshua wrote:

 Does anyone know the minimum system reqirements for
an Iomega Jaz, Syquest Ez-Flyer and Syjet. For
example, a zip drive will work with system 6 and a mac
plus. Also, would anyone know where to find the older
drivers for these drives? Any info would be helpful.

I've used an EZ135 with Systems from 6 on up to boot everything from a Plus
onward without bothering with any drivers.  The SyJet and EZ Flyer should work
similarly, though the Jaz may require some drivers.
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Re: Old CD player for SE/30

2003-03-02 Thread the pickle
At 14:44 +0100 on 02/03/03, Damien TURQUIN wrote:

I just wanted to know if some of you have ever seen such item ???

Apple CD SC.  First CD-ROM drive Apple made.  1x, caddy-load, works with any
Mac with a SCSI port.
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Re: I'm ready to hack

2003-03-02 Thread the pickle
At 16:24 -0600 on 02/03/03, Jack Gallemore wrote:

Additionally, will I get an POST error if a floppy drive isn't connected?

Never happened to me.
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Re: print to pdf

2003-03-01 Thread the pickle
At 12:28 -0600 on 01/03/03, Jon _ wrote:

The other day I downloaded something called print to pdf, a chooser
extension that allows you to create a pdf file by using the print command.
When I tried to use it with superpaint 1.1ms an macdraft 1.2a i got a sytem
error box that cited an unimplemented trap. Has anyone else had this
problem? Is there another way to create pdf documents on my se?

I'm gonna take a wild guess that it requires *at least* System 7.5 and a 68030,
if not a 68040.  Check the Readme.
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Re: MacCon 30si-card

2003-03-01 Thread the pickle
Well, since Apple provides an SMTP server, what happens if you enter the
server's address in the Outgoing Mail Server box in the Eudora Settings?
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Re: MacCon 30si - card

2003-02-27 Thread the pickle
At 13:49 -0600 on 27/02/03, Jeff Walther wrote:

Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 01:38:14 -0500
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At 00:16 -0600 on 27/02/03, Jeff Walther wrote:

Unfortunately, I do not have the skill to reprogram NuBus or PDS
Ethernet card firmware, so someone else would have to modify the
code.  But if you come up with code, I can get it into chips.  Anyone
have an 'in' at Asante?  Perhaps they have a fix but it isn't worth
burning and distributing chips?  A long shot but one that would
simplify matters.

I was thinking more along the lines of we get the code and find someone to
write new code.  Reading the code out of the ROM ought to be simple enough...

Okay.  Does that mean you want the code read out of the MacCon 30si
ROM?   Or were you thinking of some other source for it?

Or any other Asanté card, since the problem seems to be rather general to
Asanté equipment.
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Re: Question

2003-02-26 Thread the pickle
At 20:53 -0600 on 26/02/03, Steve Conrad wrote:

OKwhile this machine is a compact mac its also a powermac but since I
rarely have questions about it I shall ask here

PowerMac 5260/100

Definitely *not* a Compact Mac by any definition I've ever seen on LEM...
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Re: MacCon 30si - card

2003-02-26 Thread the pickle
At 00:16 -0600 on 27/02/03, Jeff Walther wrote:

Unfortunately, I do not have the skill to reprogram NuBus or PDS
Ethernet card firmware, so someone else would have to modify the
code.  But if you come up with code, I can get it into chips.  Anyone
have an 'in' at Asante?  Perhaps they have a fix but it isn't worth
burning and distributing chips?  A long shot but one that would
simplify matters.

I was thinking more along the lines of we get the code and find someone to
write new code.  Reading the code out of the ROM ought to be simple enough...
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Re: Not getting killed while soldering...

2003-02-26 Thread the pickle
At 05:36 +1100 on 27/02/03, Adam wrote:

Anyway, what precautions should I take with this stuff? I've already decided
to do this outdoors, and was considering one of those funky filter masks,
though I'm pretty sure those only stop particulate matter and not vapours.

Avoid breathing any more of the vapour than absolutely necessary.  Pointing an
ordinary fan across the work surface will help immensely, and working in a
well-ventilated room (or outdoors) will also help a lot.
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Re: Not getting killed while soldering...

2003-02-26 Thread the pickle
At 22:59 -0800 on 26/02/03, Gamba wrote:

Avoid breathing any more of the vapour than absolutely necessary..
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Because that's what kills you.  Eventually ;)

There are several nasty carcinogens in flux vapour (though I can't think of
specifics at the moment), and soldering generally produces a fair bit of lead
vapour (and any other heavy metals that happen to be present in the solder).
Heavy metals, of course, are generally mutagens or carcinogens in levels above
normal environmental background, and lead in particular leads to decreased
mental acuity and can be transported across the placenta in pregnant mothers,
causing birth defects and retardation in the child.
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Re: (likely OT) Screwy ADB keyboard

2003-02-26 Thread the pickle
At 06:16 +1100 on 27/02/03, Adam wrote:

compact Mac. I'm only bringing it up here now because no one on the
PowerBook list has an answer and I'm assuming that all ADB keyboards share a
common internal design regardless of age or installation. Also, this list

It's not ADB, actually - most PB keyboards aren't - but the key matrix is laid
out in roughly the same way as every other Apple keyboard, so it's relevant to
most ADB keyboards.

Sometimes I can get one of these keys to register a keypress when I hold a
key down for a long time. Other times, I get wierder results - i.e. I hit 4
and the Mac registers both [F4] and 4 as being pressed, or I hit R and the
Mac thinks I've hit [F4] or I hit F and get R etc. etc. (results vary).

Might be a problem with the connection, too.
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Re: Daystar Universal Power Cache 68030

2003-02-26 Thread the pickle
At 23:26 -0800 on 26/02/03, Gamba wrote:

With a little
finagalling I got it to go into an SE/30 without the adapter card

A definite no-no.
I'm surprised something didn't get damaged.

It sounds like something *did*...
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Re: MacCon 30si - card

2003-02-25 Thread the pickle
At 14:13 -0800 on 25/02/03, Matthew Reidsrow wrote:

-Original Message-
Might be a good idea to check the basics. Try another ether cable. If
possible try hooking the iMac DV to another computer and see if you can
establish a link. These shouldn't take too long and might save you a lot
of hassle
=

Indeed. Make sure if you are not running through a hub or switch that you
have a crossover cable as well.

And if you can, stick a piece of 10-BaseT equipment between the two, since
Asanté cards are known to have problems auto-negotiating a connection speed.

BTW, anyone have any ideas if this might be a software problem rather than a
bug in the card's ROM?  If it's a driver issue, it can probably be fixed.  If
it's a ROM bug, well, anyone got a ROM burner? :)
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Re: Airconditioned Classic (WAS viability of running mac classicwithout fan)

2003-02-24 Thread the pickle
At 19:50 +0800 on 24/02/03, Tyrone wrote:

http://www.txc.net.au/~tyrone/index.htm

None of the links/images work :(
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Re: boot-disk amnesia?

2003-02-24 Thread the pickle
At 10:04 -0500 on 24/02/03, Nicole wrote:

  That's your problem.  Nothing over 7.6.x handles 400K disks properly :)

But it's a Mac Plus which means he's likely using 800K disks.

Yes, I -- a she, for whatever that is worth ;) -- am using 800K
disks.  That is not the problem.

ISTR there was an issue with 8.1 and higher disabling 800K boot disks as well,
by de-blessing the System Folder.

Basically, you need an older OS :)
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Re: boot-disk amnesia?

2003-02-24 Thread the pickle
At 21:28 -0500 on 24/02/03, Nicole wrote:

Editing the disk on an OS 8 Mac de-blesses the System Folder, no matter what
the editing action affects.

Do you know if this applies to system 8 *as well* as to 8.1 (which is
what you said earlier).

Yep.  Both.  :(

Got any other old Macs? :)
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Re: Airconditioned Classic (WAS viability of running mac classic

2003-02-24 Thread the pickle
At 12:47 +0800 on 25/02/03, Tyrone wrote:

Sorry about the image links. The #$*king ftp client was a typical piece of
windows crap and despite me deleting the page in question and putting up a
page with only the main picture in it I still ended up with the wrong html

It clearly hasn't gotten any better in the last 24 hours, because they still
don't work ;)

Might I suggest WS_FTP if you're stuck with Windoze for FTP uploads?
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Re: URL's Sorted out

2003-02-24 Thread the pickle
At 17:57 +0800 on 25/02/03, Tyrone wrote:

My sincere apologies for the stuff-ups with URL's. I have abandoned this
effort and started fresh with a nice new site including all 3 pictures
correctly linked.

As best I can tell, photos (sketches?) and links work fine now :)
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Re: Mac Plus Start Up time.

2003-02-23 Thread the pickle
At 07:15 -0800 on 23/02/03, Gamba wrote:

The SE/30 also has a minimum of 80 ns RAM, whilst the Plus can get away with
RAM as slow as 150 ns.  Twice as slow on the RAM makes for roughly twice as
long on the RAM test.
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Now we just need two Macs with identical RAM requirements but different clock
speeds to test that :)

It doesn't explain why an SE is rather faster than a Plus with 4 MB RAM,
though.  The SE/30, being twice as fast (16 MHz versus 8 MHz), makes sense.
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Re: viability of running mac classic without fan

2003-02-23 Thread the pickle
At 09:05 -0800 on 23/02/03, martin wrote:

1:  I had a few power amp heat sinks lying around, so I pasted a
little silicon grease (just a tiny tab) onto the cpu chip, and stuck
a 3X4 inch heatsink on it. I remember being surprised there wasn't
one already, but I also recall that clearance around the CRT tube was
tight.

The CPU is actually one of the *less* heat-sensitive parts in there; the
analogue boards are what fails :(

Anyway, my small mods made my mac almost silent. Only thing was I
later had to install a condom around my floppy drive because it was
serving as a dust collection bag.  Good on you for making something

That's actually a bad idea, because it keeps the dust from flowing through the
drive and out into the inside of the case, if I'm understanding what you've
done correctly.  Letting the dust pack in around the heads will lead to
premature failure of the drive, unless the seal you've put around the floppy
drive is *completely* airtight (in which case dust won't flow in at all).

Apple made this mistake on most of the IIci/IIcx/Q700 machines I've seen, and I
don't think I've seen one yet that didn't have a horribly filthy floppy drive.
First thing I do is throw away that plastic sleeve on the drive, and dust
accumulation drops very noticeably.
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Re: boot-disk amnesia?

2003-02-23 Thread the pickle
At 00:12 -0500 on 24/02/03, Nicole wrote:

What OS is that running?

PB2400 running system 8.1

That's your problem.  Nothing over 7.6.x handles 400K disks properly :)
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Re: mysterious discrepancies in documentation

2003-02-23 Thread the pickle
At 00:42 -0500 on 24/02/03, Nicole wrote:

According to Apple's spec sheet, the Plus is bootable with system
1.1, 2, 2.0.1, 5, 5.1, 6 (and up to 7.5.5)  But LowEndMac claims that
it requires System 3.2 to 7.5.5

I think the main problem is there doesn't seem to be any consistent
nomenclature regarding the early systems, which weren't really called System
X until at least System 5.  The System file and Finder file were often of
different versions, and what LEM refers to as System 3.2 was probably what
Apple is referring to as System 1.1, wherein the System file may well be
version 1.1 but the Finder is something completely different and the whole
release an incremental update after the third full release of the Mac OS,
giving rise to the 3.2 nomenclature.
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Re: boot-disk amnesia?

2003-02-23 Thread the pickle
At 22:49 -0800 on 23/02/03, Clark Martin wrote:

At 1:38 AM -0500 2/24/2003, the pickle wrote:
At 00:12 -0500 on 24/02/03, Nicole wrote:

What OS is that running?

PB2400 running system 8.1

That's your problem.  Nothing over 7.6.x handles 400K disks properly :)


But it's a Mac Plus which means he's likely using 800K disks.

Not the earlier systems - nothing before about System 3/Finder 4 came on 800K
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Re: Mac Plus Start Up time.

2003-02-22 Thread the pickle
At 20:37 +0800 on 22/02/03, Tyrone wrote:

before it scans for a drive. Can anybody tell me if the extra ram makes much
of a difference to the boot time. I'm using the Plus without hard drive (of

The startup RAM test does indeed add a significant amount to boot time.  An
SE/30 with 128 MB RAM will take nearly 3 minutes to run the RAM test on a cold
boot.
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