Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo Zero SGF - Free Use or Copyright?

2017-11-02 Thread Pierce T. Wetter III 
Pardon my cynicism but I think Germany just guaranteed that other countries 
will develop self driving cars first and Germany will end up adapting someone 
elses solution after they’ve test driven it on _their_ citizens. Which may be 
their intent...

All of the self-driving car “knowledge" will be fuzzy. At best this rule makes 
lawyers rich.

On Oct 30, 2017, 11:36 PM -0700, Robert Jasiek , wrote:
> On 30.10.2017 19:22, Pierce T. Wetter III wrote:
> > this car and this child
>
> In Germany, an ethics commission has written ethical guidelines for
> self-driving cars with also the rule to always prefer avoiding
> casualties of human beings.
>
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Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo Zero SGF - Free Use or Copyright?

2017-11-02 Thread Thomas Rohde 
On 2017-11-01 at 11:48, adrian.b.rob...@gmail.com wrote:

> Robert Jasiek  writes:
> 
>>> [..] 
>> 
>> In Germany, an ethics commission has written ethical guidelines for 
>> self-driving cars with also the rule to always prefer avoiding casualties of 
>> human beings.
> 
> Did they consult Isaac Asimov on this?

Should actually have been their first thought, IMO (and I guess they were), 
Asimov’s Laws of Robotics should be obligatory reading for everybody in 
robotics. (and probably should be expanded/modernised — adapted to contemporary 
knowledge)


> Jokes aside, it's interesting to see some convergence of science to science 
> fiction..

Not surprising, IMO, since many of the best SF writers, including Asimov, 
actually were and are scientists and/or engineers. And scientists (as well as 
engineers, even industrial designers) often take their ideas from SF, again 
unsurprising … I’d assume that reading SF has inspired many people to pursue 
science, engineering, astronautics, etc.

Also, there is the word “science” in Science Fiction, which should tell us 
something. SF is not necessarily always “space opera” with goodies and baddies 
and alien monsters, space opera is often not much more than cowboy stories in 
“spacey” apparel.

Forgive the off-topic … as an avid SF reader I was triggered ;-)


Respectfully,
Tom
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