[Computer-go] L011 bots on CGOS are configured wrong

2018-01-02 Thread Andy
Hoping to contact whoever is running these bots.

https://www.reddit.com/r/cbaduk/comments/7nacja/l011_bots_on_cgos_are_configured_wrong/

Copy/paste of my post on reddit:

Who is running the L011 bots on CGOS? I'm assuming they are Leela v0.11.
They are not configured to remove all dead stones from the board. I don't
know the command line options for Leela, does anyone know how to get it to
do that? Also when you fix it please make new accounts because it's going
to mess up all the ratings otherwise.

http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/viewer.cgi?19x19/SGF/2017/12/31/342411.sgf

Also can you run a test to see how much time it takes to do X playouts in
Leela vs in LeelaZero? I don't think those numbers are directly comparable.


And roy7's helpful addition:

What the bot operator has to do is change the cgos wrapper program to
always send the client kgs-genmove_cleanup instead of "genmove". I think
it's a line in gtpengine.py that looks like this:

result = self._sendListResponseCommand("kgs-genmove_cleanup " + gtpColour)

Yes, people running Leela without this will lose games they should have won
because otherwise Leela is playing Chinese but the server is playing
Tromp-Taylor. TT and Chinese are similar enough just forcing
kgs-genmove_cleanup will work around it.
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Re: [Computer-go] AI ryusei 2017 first day result

2018-01-02 Thread Erik van der Werf
I didn't see the games, but I suppose they simply made the rookie mistake
of playing (too many) stones inside own territory while the opponent was
passing...


Op 2 jan. 2018 22:09 schreef "Adrian Petrescu" :

I'm not sure I understand this rule. Why should a player forfeit because
they did not pass after their opponent passed? What if they disagreed that
the game was over?

Or do you mean that *three* passes are required to end the game, and the
faulty engine only passes once? But then wouldn't they lose every game in
which they were the first to pass?

Thanks for the updates! :)
-Adrian


On 12/09/2017 07:20 PM, Hiroshi Yamashita wrote:

> Hi Remi,
>
> FineArt lost against Maru by Japanese rule. FineArt did not pass after
> Maru's pass.
> Tianrang also lost one game for this.
>
> Thanks,
> Hiroshi Yamashita
>
> - Original Message - From: "Rémi Coulom" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 4:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [Computer-go] AI ryusei 2017 first day result
>
>
> Thanks Hiroshi.
>>
>> Did anything special happen in the game between Maru and FineArt?
>>
>> I wish you good games for the second day.
>>
>> Rémi
>>
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Re: [Computer-go] AI ryusei 2017 first day result

2018-01-02 Thread Adrian Petrescu
I'm not sure I understand this rule. Why should a player forfeit because 
they did not pass after their opponent passed? What if they disagreed 
that the game was over?


Or do you mean that *three* passes are required to end the game, and the 
faulty engine only passes once? But then wouldn't they lose every game 
in which they were the first to pass?


Thanks for the updates! :)
-Adrian

On 12/09/2017 07:20 PM, Hiroshi Yamashita wrote:

Hi Remi,

FineArt lost against Maru by Japanese rule. FineArt did not pass after 
Maru's pass.

Tianrang also lost one game for this.

Thanks,
Hiroshi Yamashita

- Original Message - From: "Rémi Coulom" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 4:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Computer-go] AI ryusei 2017 first day result



Thanks Hiroshi.

Did anything special happen in the game between Maru and FineArt?

I wish you good games for the second day.

Rémi


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