Re: [Computer-go] OT (maybe): Arimaa bot notably stronger

2015-04-23 Thread Stefan Kaitschick
The funny thing is, that in computer go there are no goals, except winning.
And therefore, the reason for a win cannot be determined.
One crude measure might be to use stronger attacking moves in the
playouts, when the winrate is low.

unrelated:
Does anyone know if the successful Arimaa bot responds to the gold setup
when it's silver, or if it just ignores how gold deployed?
Just wondering.

Stefan
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Re: [Computer-go] OT (maybe): Arimaa bot notably stronger

2015-04-23 Thread Petri Pitkanen
I played  few games against bots in arimaa.com and they seemed to react.  I
think the eval can be used for that?

I did not find the game interesting. Just being hard for computers does not
make it fun. So I quit playing after few games

Petri

2015-04-23 18:32 GMT+03:00 Stefan Kaitschick stefan.kaitsch...@hamburg.de:

 The funny thing is, that in computer go there are no goals, except winning.
 And therefore, the reason for a win cannot be determined.
 One crude measure might be to use stronger attacking moves in the
 playouts, when the winrate is low.

 unrelated:
 Does anyone know if the successful Arimaa bot responds to the gold setup
 when it's silver, or if it just ignores how gold deployed?
 Just wondering.

 Stefan

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[Computer-go] OT (maybe): Arimaa bot notably stronger

2015-04-22 Thread Darren Cook
The Slashdot article was low on info, but an Arimaa program, Sharp,
apparently beat the humans to win the $12000 prize described here:
  http://arimaa.com/arimaa/challenge/2015/

There is some description of what it did to improve here:

http://arimaa.com/arimaa/forum/cgi/YaBB.cgi?board=devTalk;action=display;num=1429402345;start=1#1

To my untrained eye it looks like they are all game-specific, rather
than something we could steal from to use in other games and other
domains :-)

Darren

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Re: [Computer-go] OT (maybe): Arimaa bot notably stronger

2015-04-22 Thread David Fotland
Converting back and forth from eval to winning probability is interesting, as 
is combining the quick win threat and long term advantage evals.

David

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 The Slashdot article was low on info, but an Arimaa program, Sharp,
 apparently beat the humans to win the $12000 prize described here:
   http://arimaa.com/arimaa/challenge/2015/
 
 There is some description of what it did to improve here:
 
 http://arimaa.com/arimaa/forum/cgi/YaBB.cgi?board=devTalk;action=displ
 ay;num=1429402345;start=1#1
 
 To my untrained eye it looks like they are all game-specific, rather
 than something we could steal from to use in other games and other
 domains :-)
 
 Darren
 
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 with HTML5 SSE Published by O'Reilly: (ask me for a discount code!)
   http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920030928.do
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