[computer-go] Is computer Havannah welcome here?

2009-02-01 Thread Ingo Althöfer
Hello to all,

in 1979, Christian Freeling (NL) published Havannah,
a very nice abstract board game for two players. It is 
a connection game with some territory components.

Havannah had (commercially) good years: it was
in the shortlist for the (German) Game of the Year
in 1981 and 1982 and was produced by Ravensburger in
several editions. Then it became a bit silent around
Havannah. In 2002 Christian proposed a prize:
for 10 years (so, until 2012) no computer program
would win a single game (on board with side length 10) 
against him out of ten tries.
If a program would achieve such a win, the programmer
would get 1,000 Euro.

Recently, Havannah has become available for online play
on the server www.littlegolem.net . The game is well accepted
there, with lots of tournaments, starting almost daily.
In the fora of LittleGolem also discussion on computer Havannah
has started, and there is now already one program (by
Johannes Waldmann; based on UCT) which plays the game online 
on small boards.

There would be even more discussion on computer Havannah in
the LG fora but ...  the master of LittleGolem is in big fear
of spambots. So, you can write into his fora only, when you
have played so and so MANY games before on LG. This excludes
several competent persons/programmers from participation in
the discussions. On the other hand, the computer Havannah scence 
is still too small to fill with life an own forum.

Now, question: Would the computer-go mailinglist accept or
welcome when the computer Havannah people uses this mailing list 
for the next few months?

Some links:

* The rules of Havannah
http://www.littlegolem.net/jsp/blog/blog.jsp?blogid=7

* The fora of Little Golem (for those who want to read what exists)
http://www.littlegolem.net/jsp/forum/forum2.jsp?forum=1
http://www.littlegolem.net/jsp/forum/forum2.jsp?forum=50
Registration on Little Golem is for free and simple.
The fora can be read without being registered.

* The website with the program of Johannes Waldmann
http://dfa.imn.htwk-leipzig.de/havannah/

Ingo.
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Re: [computer-go] Is computer Havannah welcome here?

2009-02-01 Thread Rémi Coulom

Ingo Althöfer wrote:

Now, question: Would the computer-go mailinglist accept or
welcome when the computer Havannah people uses this mailing list 
for the next few months?
  


Hi Ingo,

I have just created a Havannah subforum in the game-programming forum:
http://www.grappa.univ-lille3.fr/icga/phpBB3/index.php
All Havannah programmers are welcome there.

I have no objection to Havannah discussion being held here, though.

Rémi
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Re: [computer-go] Is computer Havannah welcome here?

2009-02-01 Thread Don Dailey
On Sun, 2009-02-01 at 13:19 +0100, Ingo Althöfer wrote:
 Now, question: Would the computer-go mailinglist accept or
 welcome when the computer Havannah people uses this mailing list 
 for the next few months?

Not a problem for me.

- Don


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