Re: [CGUYS] What do your recommend? (was Electronic Failure)

2007-04-10 Thread Tony B

Simply shutting down doesn't protect against lightning surges. You
must unplug the power as well as any wired connections. Too much
trouble for most of us; get a UPS.

My own comp is turned off for the night if I'm not doing anything with
it. Our office machines are often left on for rendering, otherwise
off.

I'll sometimes hibernate laptops, but some hardware (eg network cards)
seem to get confused at that, so it's power-off for them too.

I don't bother with standby at all. But I imagine if our office
environment was such, I might encourage it as a security measure.


Turn on or wake the computer the first time you need it that day.
Save work and standby if you are away for a few hours.
Save work and hibernate when you are finished for the day.
Shut down immediately if there is an active severe thunderstorm over your
location.

Reasons: Extends life of computer, saves energy, protects work.




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Re: [CGUYS] Speeding Up XP [Was: Vista Memory Needs

2007-04-10 Thread Tom Piwowar
Many years ago I witnessed a laboratory demonstration of the power of 
lightning. They rigged up a very high voltage spark (a shadow of a real 
lightning bolt) and had it jump to a block of wood. In an instant, the 
spark jumped and the block of wood was just gone. In that instant, all of 
the moisture in the wood was turned into steam, and the steam just 
shattered the wood into dust.

Once an hour at the Franklin Institute. I wonder if they still do this?



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Re: [CGUYS] electronics failures

2007-04-10 Thread Tom Piwowar
Could you refine that answer just a bit?  When I sleep the various 'Books,
for wear purposes, does sleep count as being turned off?  I'm inclined to
think it does, as it is my regular practice, but eagerly await your
thoughts.

Yes.

Computers do now always wake from sleep or some parts wake while others 
don't. So I usually avoid sleep.



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[CGUYS] Lightning

2007-04-10 Thread Steve Rigby

On Apr 10, 2007, at 7:50 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote:


Once an hour at the Franklin Institute. I wonder if they still do this?


  I lost a bunch of stuff from a lightning hit.  It took out a 
computer, which was unplugged and disconnected from the telephone line, 
buy entering via the audio inputs and outputs which I had connected to 
audio gear.  I also lost a couple of channels in my audio mixer, and 
some audio processing stuff at the same time, as well as other 
electronic items.  That was not my first time losing stuff to lightning 
either.  No type of surge protection can ever guard against such power. 
 You gotta unplug it all when those storms come unless you are ready to 
pay the price, and that season will soon be upon us again.


  Steve



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Re: [CGUYS] Lightning

2007-04-10 Thread David Chessler

At 09:05 PM 4/10/2007, Steve Rigby wrote:

On Apr 10, 2007, at 7:50 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote:


Once an hour at the Franklin Institute. I wonder if they still do this?


  I lost a bunch of stuff from a lightning hit.  It took out a 
computer, which was unplugged and disconnected from the telephone 
line, buy entering via the audio inputs and outputs which I had 
connected to audio gear.  I also lost a couple of channels in my 
audio mixer, and some audio processing stuff at the same time, as 
well as other electronic items.  That was not my first time losing 
stuff to lightning either.  No type of surge protection can ever 
guard against such power.  You gotta unplug it all when those 
storms come unless you are ready to pay the price, and that season 
will soon be upon us again.



Things are better in cities because there are good 
grounds--everything is grounded, particularly in modern construction 
or high rises.


The worst is in the country near the end of the power line. Then even 
well-grounded electromechanical things (like the well pump) can be burned out.


Replace your surge arresters from time to time. The diodes fail in a 
cumulative manner (a little weaker with each surge), and they fail in 
such a manner as to fail to block the surge.


Nothing will protect against a direct strike of lightening. I think 
it takes 30,000 volts to jump a spark through one inch of air and the 
lightning has gone thousands of feet. The theory of the lightning rod 
is that you provide good paths to ground. There is some question as 
to how effective lightning rods are in normal installations.


I hear contradictory stories about whether underground lines are more 
or less susceptible to strikes. I think it depends on the soil. The 
people who told me they are less susceptible were here in the east 
with sandy, loamy soils. The people who told me more susceptible were 
in an area with very rocky soil and lots of exposed bedrock.




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