Re: [CGUYS] Toss You PC For Free Day (Sun in DC)
Tom - Overlooking your slightly incorrect link, called the DC gummit about another matter today, and learned that they know nothing about the 22nd (Earth Day), although that is clearly listed on the website, instead promote a Saturday 21st dropoff at Carter Barron, 9am to 3pm. Caveat emtor, this of course is also subject to change, all is heisenberg uncertainty in our Capital. Chad Wyatt __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Toss You PC For Free Day (Sun in DC)
Very easy. Very sweet people. Yesterday's TV news reported long lines at the Carter Barron recycling site sponsored by DC. So we got to Freedom Plaza 45 minutes before the start. There was no line. We were immediately directed to pull over to the curb and they helped us unload directly to the curb and they sent us on our way. It is now just past 10:30 and I'm back here at my computer. It could not have been easier. YMMV. The woman who pullled over right after us was discarding an original Mac. A guy who was helping me unload reminisced that he had paid $2500 for his and I said I had too. P.S. I'm keeping my original Mac, but my 1st PC was gleefully discarded years ago. This Sunday 11 AM to 3 PM at Freedom Plaza (13 E St NW in DC). http://www.epa.gov/oei/ecycling/ Looks like the drop off point is at the corner with the statue of Casimir Pulaski flag:wavePolish military commander and American Revolutionary War hero/flag:wave). * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Savvy Senator?
Art Clemons sez: Jeff Wright: Do you actually think Gore had the faintest idea of what was yet to come in 1989? His bill was for a top-down researcher's network using supercomputers, something that is the exact opposite of the Internet today. It was an appropriation that was eventually in the right place and the right time. He got lucky. So did Nostrodamus I wonder if the internet as we know it would exist if Gore hadn't been lucky as you put it. Gore has flaws, but dislike for him doesn't mean that he shouldn't get more acclaim for what he did. Exactly. I choose to listen to Vint Cerf, undisputed as one of the Founding Fathers of the Internet who said of Al Gore while defending him from that false I invented the Internet meme: VP Gore was the first or surely among the first of the members of Congress to become a strong supporter of advanced networking while he served as Senator. As far back as 1986, he was holding hearings on this subject (supercomputing, fiber networks...) and asking about their promise and what could be done to realize them. Bob Kahn, with whom I worked to develop the Internet design in 1973, participated in several hearings held by then-Senator Gore and I recall that Bob introduced the term 'information infrastructure' in one hearing in 1986. It was clear that as a Senator and now as Vice President, Gore has made it a point to be as well-informed as possible on technology and issues that surround it. Source: Internet archive of mids.org: http://web.archive.org/web/ 2125065813/http://www.mids.org/mn/904/vcerf.html Gore had much to do with legislation that did, according to Cerf, build the Internet. It is true, though, that Gore was popularizing the term 'information superhighway' in the early 1990s (although he did not, as is often claimed by others, coin the phrase himself) when few people outside academia or the computer/defense industries had heard of the Internet, and he sponsored the 1988 National High-Performance Computer Act (which established a national computing plan and helped link universities and libraries via a shared network) and cosponsored the Information Infrastructure and Technology Act of 1992 (which opened the Internet to commercial traffic). In May 2005, the organizers of the Webby Awards for online achievements honored Al Gore with a lifetime achievement award for three decades of contributions to the Internet. 'He is indeed due some thanks and consideration for his early contributions,' said Vint Cerf. -- Source: Snopes http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Savvy Senator?
Exactly. I choose to listen to Vint Cerf, undisputed as one of the Founding Fathers of the Internet who said of Al Gore while defending him from that false I invented the Internet meme: False? Not really. While the invented part was nothing more than a fish-in-the-barrel response from Republicans, Al's ego did all the heavy lifting for them. During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/03/09/president.2000/transcript. gore/ He also had no problem scooping up the George Bush I initiative of the Clipper chip, so that the guvmint could eavesdrop on all encrypted communications. Luckily, that went nowhere. http://www.epic.org/crypto/clipper/gore_statement_feb_94.html Which brings me back to my original question: What has the Congress done for us lately on the Internet? * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Savvy Senator? [Was: Email Security Contradictions
Blinded by ideology, Jeff ranted... No one is denying that Gore put through funding that, in retrospect, was well timed, but Gore saying the I took the initiative in creating the Internet is like George Westinghouse saying that he took the initiative in creating Emiril Lagasse. Al Gore and the Internet By Robert Kahn and Vinton Cerf (Before Jeff demands to know who are these jerks?... Robert Kahn, invented the TCP protocol, and along with Vinton Cerf created the IP protocol. So the following is an account from people who were deeply involved with the Internet at the time these events happened.) Al Gore was the first political leader to recognize the importance of the Internet and to promote and support its development. As far back as the 1970s Congressman Gore promoted the idea of high speed telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the improvement of our educational system. He was the first elected official to grasp the potential of computer communications to have a broader impact than just improving the conduct of science and scholarship. Though easily forgotten now, at the time this was an unproven and controversial concept. Gore secured the passage of the High Performance Computing and Communications Act in 1991. This Gore Act supported the National Research and Education Network (NREN) initiative that became one of the major vehicles for the spread of the Internet beyond the field of computer science. As Vice President Gore promoted building the Internet both up and out, as well as releasing the Internet from the control of the government agencies that spawned it. Gore provided much-needed political support for the speedy privatization of the Internet when the time arrived for it to become a commercially-driven operation. No one in public life has been more intellectually engaged in helping to create the climate for a thriving Internet than the Vice President. Gore has been a clear champion of this effort, both in the councils of government and with the public at large. More at... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2000/10/02/net_builders_kahn_cerf_recognise/ * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Savvy Senator?
I am kinda getting tired of this who invented the internet crap. How's about talking about computers and much more related subjects rather than peeing in the wind about political differences? * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Savvy Senator?
Jeff Wright sez: Exactly. I choose to listen to Vint Cerf, undisputed as one of the Founding Fathers of the Internet who said of Al Gore while defending him from that false I invented the Internet meme: Do you mean this Vint Cerf? I'm sure it's just a coincidence that he wrote an op-ed pimping and defending Gore back in the day. Yes. That Vint Cerf. You know, the one who: ...is a North American computer scientist who is commonly referred to as one of the founding fathers of the Internet for his key technical and managerial role, together with Bob Kahn, in the creation of the Internet and the TCP/IP protocols which it uses. Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinton_Cerf Big deal if he gives money to a political party. Lots of people do. That makes him NOT a founding father of the Internet with probably enough clout to claim who else assisted in building the Internet only in the minds of people who like to misrepresent facts to further their own agendae. Why are we all inside on this beautiful Sunday anyway? -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] How do I compress MPG files
While in Jerome,AZ I took some video of a band that I want to upload to YouTube. My MPG file is 500mb but Youtube limits you to 100 mb. How do I go about compressing the video so that it's small enough to upload? I'm on either an iMac G5 and I do have GarageBand if that worksor a MacBook Pro laptop. JPG's I could handle but I've never worked with video so haven't a clue. Thanks! Paula IN/USA Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, wine in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO what a ride! Have a wonderful day! * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] Why are we inside? was: [CGUYS] Savvy Senator?
I'm building cabinets...just put 900 sqft of laminate in...now working on kitchen cabinets. I think I'd rather be outside.. Mike * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] How do I compress MPG files
First thing to do is to frame the video to the size YouTube wants (320 x 240). If you have not already done this, it will make the file a lot smaller. Software, called a CODEC (COder-DECoder) does the compression. There are many different CODECs with different properties. The two basic types of CODEC produce eiter smaller files or better quality files. A transfer CODEC is used to make files that you use for editing (high quality). A delivery CODEC is used for making smaller files. Some CODECs are best for specific types of images (like animations). The H.264 (QuickTime Pro $29) and Sorenson (expensive) CODECs are good for making small video files. Other things you could do are reduce the frame rate or the data rate; or ask for fewer key frames; or reduce the color depth; or lower the quality setting (similar to making a smaller jpeg). Large files at YouTube are commonly posted in sets so you may want to break up the performance into several smaller units. While in Jerome,AZ I took some video of a band that I want to upload to YouTube. My MPG file is 500mb but Youtube limits you to 100 mb. How do I go about compressing the video so that it's small enough to upload? I'm on either an iMac G5 and I do have GarageBand if that worksor a MacBook Pro laptop. JPG's I could handle but I've never worked with video so haven't a clue. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] Need advice on buying new desktop PC
Hi ... I have a neighbor who wants to buy a new desktop computer. He now has a laptop but suddenly he can't get online with it. Comcast came today and checked out everything, finally concluding that it must be the computer (not the modem, the cables, etc.). I have a Dell E510 (a year old) that I'm very happy with. Dell's E520 seems to be a direct update of mine and I believe it has everything he wants (big HDD, lots of RAM, built-in networking card, CD/DVD-RW, [duo-core processing -- I recommended that because it's what I have] and a 19 flat panel monitor). His previous computer (before the laptop) was a Gateway so he asked me to check them -- and it seems Gateway has essentially the same machine (DX 430) as the Dell E520 -- but for $699 instead of $819. I wonder if you'd offer opinions on which of the two computers you think is best -- OR -- if neither, maybe what you WOULD recommend in about that same price range (including the flat-panel monitor). Please don't waste your energy recommending a Mac because it's just not going to happen. He has PC software; he's an older man who barely knows how to download his bank statements. So the thought of going to a whole new system is too much for him. Thanks in advance for your always wonderful advice, Gail Miller * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Need advice on buying new desktop PC
Without knowing what the computer will be used for I recommend the cheapest computer you can find. For somebody who isn't going to be doing anything more complicated than web browsing, e-mail, Quicken and MS Office almost any computer built in the last 5 years will be adequate to the task. You don't say how/why Comcast concluded the problem was with your neighbor's computer not their hardware but I assume they hooked up test equipment to the cable modem and got a good signal. Once they got a good signal at the terminus of their equipment their job was done because the problem wasn't with their equipment and they could blame that evil OTHER device. Your neighbor could likely save himself money by taking the laptop to a decent repair shop and tell them he can't connect to the web. A good shop will be able to connect his laptop to a test network and see if there is a problem with his network adapter or with his network configuration. If it is an adapter problem a new PC Card network adapter costs less than $100 dollars and probably less than $150 installed and configured. If it is a problem with his configuration it will probably cost less than $200 dollars for a technician to fix the problem. In either case the cost will be less than the $700-800 for a new computer and he won't have to deal with the problems of moving data and applications from the old computer to the new computer. GMiller wrote: Hi ... I have a neighbor who wants to buy a new desktop computer. He now has a laptop but suddenly he can't get online with it. Comcast came today and checked out everything, finally concluding that it must be the computer (not the modem, the cables, etc.). I have a Dell E510 (a year old) that I'm very happy with. Dell's E520 seems to be a direct update of mine and I believe it has everything he wants (big HDD, lots of RAM, built-in networking card, CD/DVD-RW, [duo-core processing -- I recommended that because it's what I have] and a 19 flat panel monitor). His previous computer (before the laptop) was a Gateway so he asked me to check them -- and it seems Gateway has essentially the same machine (DX 430) as the Dell E520 -- but for $699 instead of $819. I wonder if you'd offer opinions on which of the two computers you think is best -- OR -- if neither, maybe what you WOULD recommend in about that same price range (including the flat-panel monitor). Please don't waste your energy recommending a Mac because it's just not going to happen. He has PC software; he's an older man who barely knows how to download his bank statements. So the thought of going to a whole new system is too much for him. Thanks in advance for your always wonderful advice, Gail Miller * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Need advice on buying new desktop PC
Your neighbor could likely save himself money by taking the laptop to a decent repair shop and tell them he can't connect to the web. A good shop will be able to connect his laptop to a test network and see if there is a problem with his network adapter or with his network configuration. If it is an adapter problem a new PC Card network adapter costs less than $100 dollars and probably less than $150 installed and configured. If it is a problem with his configuration it will probably cost less than $200 dollars for a technician to fix the problem. In either case the cost will be less than the $700-800 for a new computer and he won't have to deal with the problems of moving data and applications from the old computer to the new computer. Thanks Howard. I suggested that at the outset but I think he really wants a new computer. As you noted, he mainly uses the computer for email, Quicken, some photo manipulation (moving from camera to computer to Snapfish) and he does like to watch DVDs on his computer. So he needs something fast enough to accommodate that but not a gaming machine or anything near that. All suggestions sinceraly appreciated. Best, Gail * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
