Re: [CGUYS] Cleaning the Dust out of a PC

2007-05-03 Thread Paul Meyer
Disagree.  Collecting air and dispersing air are two different things.  One is 
an
entropic process and the other increases order.  Put simply, static generators
have a source and a collector. Bring air to a central point makes the vacuum 
the collector.  Blowing air involves no collector.  I don't know if the vacuum 
stories
are apochryphal  but I don't think blowing air and sucking it in are equivalent.

Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no significant difference 
between blowing air and sucking air.
However, people are used to vacuuming by *touching* the thing being vacuumed
with the hose.  People generally don't touch the hose blowing air to
anything.  It is undoubtedly touching or getting very close that would allow
any static build-up to arc.

Very good. Makes sense.

But if both the vacuum cleaner and the computer are grounded I expect 
that static discharge will not happen.



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[CGUYS] Shhh...

2007-05-03 Thread Jay Montero
I am looking for advice on making my PC a little quieter.  I gather I 
need to look at replacing my case fan and power supply...? What do you 
recommend that you have actually tried?  (It's a Linux box in case that 
makes any difference.)  TIA




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[CGUYS] Fwd: Today's Headlines: In Web Uproar, Antipiracy Code Spreads Wildly

2007-05-03 Thread Fred Holmes
In Today's New York Times:
In Web Uproar, Antipiracy Code Spreads Wildly
By BRAD STONE
Sophisticated Internet users have joined up to distribute a
code used to prevent piracy of high-definition movies.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/03/technology/03code.html?themc=th



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Re: [CGUYS] Fwd: Today's Headlines: In Web Uproar, Antipiracy Code Spreads Wildly

2007-05-03 Thread Tony B

I've been wondering who was going to be the first to post the number
here. Not me, I'm sick of seeing it.

On 5/3/07, Fred Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In Today's New York Times:
In Web Uproar, Antipiracy Code Spreads Wildly
By BRAD STONE
Sophisticated Internet users have joined up to distribute a
code used to prevent piracy of high-definition movies.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/03/technology/03code.html?themc=th




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Re: [CGUYS] Fwd: Today's Headlines: In Web Uproar, Antipiracy Code Spreads Wildly

2007-05-03 Thread mike

I'm sure the people who now have dead hd dvd players for new movies are
going to be sick of seeing it too.

Mike

On 5/3/07, Tony B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I've been wondering who was going to be the first to post the number
here. Not me, I'm sick of seeing it.

On 5/3/07, Fred Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In Today's New York Times:
 In Web Uproar, Antipiracy Code Spreads Wildly
 By BRAD STONE
 Sophisticated Internet users have joined up to distribute a
 code used to prevent piracy of high-definition movies.

 http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/03/technology/03code.html?themc=th



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Re: [CGUYS] Fwd: Today's Headlines: In Web Uproar, Antipiracy Code Spreads Wildly

2007-05-03 Thread Bert Brehm
0011001110010100011000111001001100010011000100
110011001000111001010001110111001101000100
01010011001100110101011001000111101101
110001001101010011011001110011010100110110
00110011001101010011011000111011111100 
110010 

-Original Message-
From: Tony B

I've been wondering who was going to be the first to post the
number here. Not me, I'm sick of seeing it.



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Re: [CGUYS] Comparing Mac and PC laptops

2007-05-03 Thread Pete Rozanski
 


PC-Pete,  We are discussing pros and cons ...
 
Mark Snyder

If I am PC-Pete does that make you Mac-Mark?

PC-Pete



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Re: [CGUYS] Comparing Mac and PC laptops

2007-05-03 Thread Mason Miller

MacBook is great.  Get the one with the SuperDrive.  Add:

$129 for the Student/Teacher edition of Microsoft Office for the Mac.
$249 for AppleCare.  Particularly for a student, you will want the 3  
year parts warranty. - You can find this for around $180-190 if you  
shop Amazon/Froogle.


This ought to give her everything she needs to be a productive  
student.  RAM is super easy to upgrade on these units, I would  
recommend at least 1 gig of RAM.


Mason

On May 3, 2007, at 1:12 PM, Robert wrote:

Daughter in college, studying stage management, decides she wants a  
laptop.  Neither she nor dad owns one, and neither have owned a  
Mac.  Both own desktop PCs with lots of software.  Dad sends  
daughter his minimum recommended specifications for PC laptop,  
using Dell as an example.


Daughter's friends tell her that Dell and Toshiba laptops are crap,  
the only thing to have is a Mac because it will do multi-tasking,  
runs so much faster than a PC, and it is so much more reliable than  
PC.  Based on these comments, she thinks that she should get a Mac.


Dad has no objection and no bias for either, but worries that out- 
of-pocket expenses will be greater for a Mac because of the  
necessity of purchasing all new software.

(1)  Can you comment on the pro/cons of PC versus Mac laptop?

(2) Since Dad has no knowledge of Mac, what are the specifications  
and models that daughter needs to shop for a Mac?




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Re: [CGUYS] Shhh...

2007-05-03 Thread Tom Campbell
Watercooling.
Still uses fans on the radiators but they are big
(120mm) and only turn at about 900rpm.
http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/product/Liquid/DIY/cl-w0076/cl-w0076.asp
http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/product/Chassis/fulltower/tai-chi/tai_chi_index.asp

OR

Get a new case that will accomodate big, slow fans and
go crazy with your processor cooler.

http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=810
http://tinyurl.com/yuxk27

I went with Bigwater 745 cooling cpu, gpu, chipset. on
an amd dual core
full load cpu temp 39c
and quiet as a laptop

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Subject: [CGUYS] Shhh...


 I am looking for advice on making my PC a little
quieter.  I gather I
 need to look at replacing my case fan and power
supply...? What do you
 recommend that you have actually tried?  (It's a Linux
box in case that
 makes any difference.)  TIA





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Re: [CGUYS] Comparing Mac and PC laptops

2007-05-03 Thread b_s-wilk
As always, the choice of computer should reflect the kind of software 
that will be used. For people in the creative arts, most agencies and 
video houses use Macs. Creative software, even when cross-platform, is 
written better for Macs [fewer steps, more intuitive, with features 
built into the OS], except for 3D modeling and animation--good 3D 
programs are available for Macs, Unix, Windows.


For many other uses, it probably doesn't matter, as long as she can 
learn how to maintain and back up her system/files herself. Dell has 
very good notebooks [we use an Inspiron] ranging from bargain to 
outrageously expensive [and amazing]. MacBooks are very good [we have an 
iBook]. MacBook Pro notebooks have many more features and capabilities 
but cost 40% more.


With a PC, she can use software she already has. With a MacBook [Pro] 
she can use Windows software [with Bootcamp for dual boot, or Parallels 
emulator, or Codeweavers CrossoverMac] as well as the Mac software 
that's bundled.


Try out several notebook computers. Have her talk to friends about what 
they're using. She needs to go to stores that carry the notebooks she's 
considering so she can compare features, software, specs, then decide 
which one is right for her. Does she need a PC/Extreme card slot? Big 
display? Extended desktop? built-in camera? DVD burner? There are lots 
of considerations and choices. Then let her decide.


Betty



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Re: [CGUYS] Comparing Mac and PC laptops

2007-05-03 Thread Jeff Wright
 Daughter's friends tell her that Dell and Toshiba laptops are crap, the
 only thing to have is a Mac because it will do multi-tasking, runs so
 much faster than a PC

Both systems will mutli-task and have for years.  Windows did this first,
but that's ancient history.  Runs so much faster is highly subjective.  A
2-year old Macbook will be spanked by a new Dell in terms of performance and
vice versa.

 and it is so much more reliable than PC.

YMMV.  PC is not a monolithic term like Mac.  Many vendors and differing
levels of quality.  Dell and Toshiba are typically tops in quality for PCs.
Lenovo (formerly IBM) has a good rep too.  A careless user can hose a Mac as
quickly as they can a PC.

 Based
 on these comments, she thinks that she should get a Mac.

Hopefully, they don't comment about playing in traffic if she's this easily
swayed.

The computer is a simply a tool and depending on what you are doing and your
budget will determine what you get.  At best, it's a preference; some people
like the Mac platform, others Windows.  Either will get the job done.

You need to tell us what she wants to do and her criteria for what is
acceptable.  Does she want a lighter unit, or can she accept a couple extra
pounds in exchange for a couple hundred dollars cheaper?  What type of
software will she need for classes?  Will the school support the laptop?  If
not, what support is available locally?

Go to the Dell site and poke around.  They have many different configs and
options.  You should be able to pick up a very decent laptop for your
daughter for around $1,000.  The Dell outlet generally has even better
prices, but the selection is limited to what is on hand.  I've bought many
different systems from the outlet and haven't been disappointed.  Still, it
never hurts to extend the warranty out to 3 years, especially since it's a
laptop and will be lugged around.

I have a couple Dell Inspiron 1501 laptops at work I bought from the outlet
refurbed.  No problems.

Dell outlet Inspiron notebooks:  http://tinyurl.com/jyr69



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Re: [CGUYS] Comparing Mac and PC laptops

2007-05-03 Thread Mason Miller
No Windows included, although if you know you want it, you can get the 
Apple with it preinstalled at macmall.com.  Parallels will let you run 
any version of Windows in a Mac window. Dual booting requires XP or Vista.


Mason

Pete Rozanski wrote:

Can't they run both a Windows OS as well as a Mac OS?
  


  

They can run both.



How does the licensing work? Does the price for the Mac include a fee for
the Windows OS, and does it need all the MS patches? Which version of
Windows does it run?

PC-Pete



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Re: [CGUYS] Landscape Object in Word

2007-05-03 Thread b_s-wilk

I¹m trying to insert an Excel spreadsheet into an MS Word document so it
appears and prints in landscape orientation.  This is on a Mac.

I followed the instructions in Word: select pages - format - document -
page setup - landscape icon - OK - apply to selected text.

Word inserts a ³section break (next page).²

But when I look in Print Preview, the text on the page is still in portrait
mode, as is the inserted spreadsheet.



On the page before the spreadsheet, insert a section break. Define that 
new section as being horizontal/landscape.


At the end of the spreadsheet, just below the last line and outside of 
the grid, insert another section break. Define the following section 
pages to be vertical.


Betty



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Re: [CGUYS] Switch from dial-up to broadband

2007-05-03 Thread Tony B

I wouldn't want to screw with the existing network, so I'd take them
all wireless. Well, two of them anyway.



   The two POS computers already are hardwired by a CAT5 cable for their
networking




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Re: [CGUYS] Comparing Mac and PC laptops

2007-05-03 Thread Jeff Wright
 -Original Message-
 AmigaDOS did it before either, and OS-9 I think did it
 before AmigaDOS.  But that's ancient history :-)

Well, I just meant between the 2.  And we're talking pre-emptive
multi-tasking, not that dressed up cooperative stuff.
 
 Nice post Jeff, BTW.  Very balanced and sensible.

Crap.  Now you'll expect it all the time.



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[CGUYS] Female gamers

2007-05-03 Thread Tony B

You know, as of now this advice may need to be re-thought.

Females now play more video games than men. And they play the vast
majority on PCs. I don't even know if the games they like to play are
available on Macs, except in their browser versions.

It does, however, seem that laptops are just fine for these types of games.

PS No, a quick check at one popular site (Popcap) shows no Mac
software downloads available. However, Mobile (PDA, phone) versions
*are* available. I wonder if anyone actually asked her what types of
games (if any) she likes to play?


As far as the daughter's computer, the Mac looks like the
way to go.  If she were a gamer I wouldn't even bother
thinking about a laptop, but that's probably not helpful..




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Re: [CGUYS] Cleaning the Dust out of a PC

2007-05-03 Thread Tom Piwowar
I pulled out a CD drive cleaning disc and ran
it on my burner. Sure enough, some of that chased dust had managed to
work its way inside to coat the lens on the burner. Caveat!

So it is better to suck than to blow and better to be wet than to be dry 
and necessary keep everything grounded and above all: stay out of 
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