Re: [CGUYS] Apple Issues Patches for 25 Security Holes

2007-04-21 Thread Jeff Wright
Or you could just edit the registry to disable remote access as noted in the
workaround section of the KB article.  Takes about 2 minutes a server.

Nah, better to panic.

 -Original Message-
 The biggest threats to Macs (and all of us) right now is the Microsoft
 DNS vulnerability. Unfortunately, many Mac users work in environments
 where the local DNS is on a Microsoft server. The problem is that the
 Microsoft DNS can be remotely attacked and loaded with bogus addresses.
 Thus you type in the URL of a site you trust and you get routed to a
 look-alike phishing site. This is very serious and is currently
 happening. I don't see that Microsoft has issued a patch. Best solution
 for now is to change your DNS settings to use a trusted UNIX DNS
 server.



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Re: [CGUYS] Apple Issues Patches for 25 Security Holes

2007-04-21 Thread Tom Piwowar
Or you could just edit the registry to disable remote access as noted in the
workaround section of the KB article.  Takes about 2 minutes a server.
Nah, better to panic.

In my experience nothing will strike panic into the hearts of IT managers 
like the prospect of getting their big butts out of their chairs. 
Disable remote access you have got to be kidding. It won't be done. 
Anyone who relies on it getting done is asking for trouble. It is much 
safer to switch to a reliable DNS.

Perhaps we need a way to cross check the results from multiple DNS 
servers? If one were polluted the inconsistent results would be a tip off 
that something is wrong.



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Re: [CGUYS] Apple Issues Patches for 25 Security Holes

2007-04-21 Thread mike

Again, I keep wondering where you meet these guys?  Are you loitering around
best buy and figure the geeksquad guys are IT managers?  I've met many IT
managers, and their staff, never have I met these caricatures you describe.

Mike

On 4/21/07, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Or you could just edit the registry to disable remote access as noted in
the
workaround section of the KB article.  Takes about 2 minutes a server.
Nah, better to panic.

In my experience nothing will strike panic into the hearts of IT managers
like the prospect of getting their big butts out of their chairs.
Disable remote access you have got to be kidding. It won't be done.
Anyone who relies on it getting done is asking for trouble. It is much
safer to switch to a reliable DNS.

Perhaps we need a way to cross check the results from multiple DNS
servers? If one were polluted the inconsistent results would be a tip off
that something is wrong.



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Re: [CGUYS] Apple Issues Patches for 25 Security Holes

2007-04-21 Thread Tom Piwowar
Again, I keep wondering where you meet these guys?  Are you loitering around
best buy and figure the geeksquad guys are IT managers?  I've met many IT
managers, and their staff, never have I met these caricatures you describe.

We had this discussion here a few months ago (and I mostly stayed out of 
it). There were plenty of first-hand accounts of IT mis-management and 
resolute refusal to see anything amiss on your side of the aisle. Sort of 
like watching the White House defend Bolton, Gonzales, Wolfowitz, et al..



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Re: [CGUYS] Apple Issues Patches for 25 Security Holes

2007-04-21 Thread John DeCarlo

On 4/21/07, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Again, I keep wondering where you meet these guys?  Are you loitering
around
best buy and figure the geeksquad guys are IT managers?  I've met many IT
managers, and their staff, never have I met these caricatures you
describe.



Tom is pretty harsh, but the points he make show up pretty commonly.  I work
with several IT managers who are very conscientious and extremely well
qualified technically.  Yet they end up trapping themselves into nasty
corners.  Like migrating to a huge Microsoft environment - Exchange, Windows
desktops, SharePoint, Office, IE, etc.  If you lead them carefully, they
will admit that things don't work the way they would like - in fact, the
products Microsoft delivers are incredibly frustrating.  But they buy into
the Microsoft mantra - easier to hire people familiar with Microsoft,
current staff skills, just copying other large companies, etc.

In fact, two in particular I know of would love to have a standards-based
environment, with lots more open source products that would be easier to
maintain.  But they would have to work extra hard to find the right support
people, those motivated to work with the open source community, etc.  And
they would have to work hard to convince upper management.  So the cost to
ramp up would be higher, though the result would be hugely cheaper and
easier to maintain and improve.  But try proposing paying the IT people
more, bringing in those who care about open source, and having ways to
outsource some of the support.  Maybe it could be done, but ...

So, the honest and capable ones know they are stuck in a tough place, and
are very frustrated.

And, of course, there are plenty of the not-very-competent types out there,
that is for sure.

--
John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own



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[CGUYS] Apple Issues Patches for 25 Security Holes

2007-04-20 Thread Pete Rozanski
From today's Washington Post

Apple today released software updates... All told, today's batch fixes some
25 distinct security vulnerabilities

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2007/04/apple_updates_plug_25_sec
urity_1.html?referrer=emailreferrer=emailreferrer=email

Peter Rozanski
Orndorff  Spaid, Inc.
301-937-5911 



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Re: [CGUYS] Apple Issues Patches for 25 Security Holes

2007-04-20 Thread mike

I'm having a mental block on that free public DNS that is out
there...someone help me out?  They have had quite a bit of publicity the
last year...sorry can't think of any more info.  It's on the tip of my
brain...AARRGG!

Mike



On 4/20/07, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



The biggest threats to Macs (and all of us) right now is the Microsoft
DNS vulnerability. Unfortunately, many Mac users work in environments
where the local DNS is on a Microsoft server. The problem is that the
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look-alike phishing site. This is very serious and is currently
happening. I don't see that Microsoft has issued a patch. Best solution
for now is to change your DNS settings to use a trusted UNIX DNS server.



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