Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] xmms-1.2.7-26mdk

2003-11-19 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Olivier Blin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:26:23 +0100 (CET)
 Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  -=-=-=-
  Name: xmms
  Version : 1.2.7
  Packager: Guillaume Cottenceau [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 It would be nice to upgrade to xmms 1.2.8, there's been a lot of fixes
 since 1.2.7 was released, about one year and a half ago :-)

I checked pre1 back in august and it broke stuff. Didn't have
time to test since then.

 The Packager tag may be removed, is it still useful to keep one ?

Yes.

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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] xmms-1.2.7-26mdk

2003-11-19 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Götz Waschk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   The Packager tag may be removed, is it still useful to keep one ?
  Yes.
 OK, let's leave your name in the package. 

/me should buy a few more neurons. I meant to say yes to go on
remove it. Sorry.

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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] xmms-1.2.7-26mdk

2003-11-19 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Götz Waschk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 It contains quite a few changes:

Sounds interesting and you're definitely an experienced packager.
You may upload it to cooker if you want (I'll do if you don't
have the rights). I don't have much time for it currently (you
know, that secret Mandrake project that we're very much in a
hurry with).

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Re: [Cooker] xmms-1.2.7-26mdk

2003-11-18 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Yes but I don't need an explanation for me, I know what AB is
  about. I'm of course talking for users.

 Gc, I am afraid people try to get you to understand that there is no 
 button to press. So no place for a tooltip to appear. There is no mouse 

The following looks like a menu entry:

+{N_(/Playback/Set A-B), A, mainwin_general_menu_callback, 
MAINWIN_GENERAL_SETAB, Item},

I assumed this was tooltip'able, while I'm not sure of that, of
course.

 pointer above an action widget. You just press A with the keyboard and the 
 status window of xmms displays A. It doesn't make much sense to add a 
 tooltip if you would go and over above the A (I even think it very hard to do that 
 at all since given the way the status window works) since it it not meant 


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Re: [Cooker] xmms-1.2.7-26mdk

2003-11-18 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Yes but I don't need an explanation for me, I know what AB is
  about. I'm of course talking for users.
 
 So..., what do you propose? Either there is a tooltip, or you will not accept 
 the patch?

I made a request, which was argumented. You haven't begun to
discuss the validity of the point, did you?

 Come on man, give me a break...

?

 You can demand a pretty ab button for all skins, and all of the C/C++ code you 
 may have, as much as you like, I won't give you one, sorry...

Sorry too..
 
 PS. What about the zillions of undocumented Mandrake features? Who will make 
 silly tooltips for those? Or better, try _DOCUMENT_ them?

I suspect you really need a break.

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Re: [Cooker] xmms-1.2.7-26mdk

2003-11-18 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   So..., what do you propose? Either there is a tooltip, or you will not
   accept the patch?
 
  I made a request, which was argumented. You haven't begun to
  discuss the validity of the point, did you?
 
 And I tried to explain there's no where to put the tooltip. I also have tried 

Ah. Then I didn't get that. When you talked about keystrokes, I
suspected you didn't notice the presence of AB in the menu, where
I think the tooltip belong. Now according to Levi, menus don't
support tooltips, which I wasn't sure about.

 to explain why one would need this feature. I guess we at least could 

This is understood, don't worry :).

 information about this in the documentation, maybe in the AUTHORS, FAQ, NEWS 
 and README files? Also in the about.c file?

If no tooltip is possible, I'd suggest at least a README.MDK
holding all mandrake specific stuff?

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Re: [Cooker] xmms-1.2.7-26mdk

2003-11-18 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 tisdagen den 18 november 2003 21.03 skrev Guillaume Cottenceau:
  Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 [...]
 
  If no tooltip is possible, I'd suggest at least a README.MDK
  holding all mandrake specific stuff?
 
 As in the new attached patches?

That's ok for me.

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Re: [Cooker] xmms-1.2.7-26mdk

2003-11-17 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Also, I think it should have a tooltip explaining what it is, as
  it's rather obscure to normal people. Would you consider adding
  the tooltip?
 
 Where should this tooltip be located? There is no visual stuff until you press 

Well, erhm, a tooltip is a widget that appears automatically when
you don't move for 2 seconds on a (typically, action) widget.
Thus it should appear when one leave mouse pointer on the AB
stuff, I guess.

 A. I spent around 10 minutes fixing a simple web page that shows this in 
 action, a picture says more than a thousand words. Please check here:
 
 http://www.deserve-it.com/Cooker/xmms-1_2_7-26mdk.html
 
 Download packages for MDK9.2 here:
 
 http://www.deserve-it.com/9.2/

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Re: [Cooker] xmms-1.2.7-26mdk

2003-11-17 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 måndagen den 17 november 2003 13.11 skrev Guillaume Cottenceau:
  Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Also, I think it should have a tooltip explaining what it is, as
it's rather obscure to normal people. Would you consider adding
the tooltip?
  
   Where should this tooltip be located? There is no visual stuff until you
   press
 
  Well, erhm, a tooltip is a widget that appears automatically when
  you don't move for 2 seconds on a (typically, action) widget.
  Thus it should appear when one leave mouse pointer on the AB
  stuff, I guess.
 
 I tried to explain that this is simply not the case, did you check the link 

There is no tooltip, yes, and I suggest to add one :).

 below?

Yes but I don't need an explanation for me, I know what AB is
about. I'm of course talking for users.

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Re: [Cooker] [Bug 6374] [Installation] 9.2 for AMD64, RC1 installation failure

2003-11-17 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Gwenole Beauchesne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi,
 
  (beginning of error messages)
  error in exec of Stage 2 :-(
  trying to execute '/usr/bin/runinstall2' from the installation volume
  the following fatal error occurred
  FATAL ERROR IN STAGE1: I/O error
 
  I can't recover from this.
  you may reboot your system.
  ---(end of error messages)-
 
 Do you have more information on the 3rd or so console (Alt-F3)?
 Is this specific to Mandrake Linux in both 32-bit  64-bit
 versions?

And on console 4 (Alt-F4), kernel messages might explain the
origin of the IO error, might have problems with CDROM reading.

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[Cooker] hacking (mandrake software) howto

2003-11-14 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/HackingHowTo

I began the page to communicate about the perl-MDK-Common
tutorial I've written this spring. It should be a good starting
point for people wanting to fix bugs or add features to existing
Mandrake Perl software. (well IMHO all perl programmers should at
least look at perl-MDK-Common since it's a really useful library)

Feel free to add stuff.

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Re: [Cooker] xmms-1.2.7-26mdk

2003-11-14 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Also, I think it should have a tooltip explaining what it is, as
it's rather obscure to normal people. Would you consider adding
the tooltip?
  
   I could probably do it, but remember I'm no coder... Could I
   get some help?
 
  Any taker?
 
 I just noticed this is mentioned in the menu, isn't that enough:
 
 Right click - Playback - Set A-B A
 Right click - Playback - Clear A-B S
 
 ?

Also, I think it should have a tooltip explaining what it is, as
it's rather obscure to normal people. Would you consider adding
the tooltip?

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Re: [Cooker] Orphan files ?

2003-11-13 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Frank Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'm looking for some guidance on trying to find the package which
 owns a file.
 
 Several times now when I've had a problem with a particular
 executable or one of the initialization script files, I've tried
 to find the owning package for purposes of filing a bug report by
 using rpmdrake's seach on filename feature, only to get no hits
 from the search.

 The latest example is /usr/bin/update-menus.

In install mode, it searches files in packages that you can
install, thus of course this won't find the owner of installed
file /usr/bin/update-menus.

In remove mode, it would work if menu was allowed to be removed,
but it's not the case (we don't want you break your system).

Anyway, rpm -qf is the easiest way for such a question, as others
answered.

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Re: [Cooker] xmms-1.2.7-26mdk

2003-11-13 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  How does it behave when you don't have the necessary hardware? I
  guess it's just available through A and S keystrokes?
 
 You need at least a standard sound card.
 
 The idea is simple: anytime during play, you press the A key
 (marks A point), the music keeps playing, when you press the A key
 again (marks B point), it loops endlessly between the two marked
 points, until the S key is pressed (clear), or a new A point is
 marked. Morover, whenever a A-B range is defined, the play
 button/menu jumps straight to the A position.

Ok.
 
  Also, I think it should have a tooltip explaining what it is, as
  it's rather obscure to normal people. Would you consider adding
  the tooltip?
 
 I could probably do it, but remember I'm no coder... Could I
 get some help?

Any taker?

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Re: [Cooker] xmms-1.2.7-26mdk

2003-11-12 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi.
 
 Here's background info:
 
 I'm very picky when it comes to functionality, and I love features that some 
 people maybe even never heard about, or knew existed. One of these features 
 is the A-B button on my remote control for my Technics SL-P470 (audio cd 
 player). As a musician having to figure out song lyrics and train guitar 
 solos for the next cover song that we will play live, the A-B feature is 
 extremly crucial. I have asked the authors of winamp and xmms numerous times 
 about this feature, for at least 4(?) years, well since winamp 1.7.3... Guess 
 what? No responce...
 
 The good news is that a guy named Rodrigo Martins de Matos Ventura made a 
 patch for xmms. I rediffed this patch for the mandrake package and it works 
 like a charm! This is so cool! I love it! Now I can use the PC as a training 
 device for learning songs and stuff! Awesome!

How does it behave when you don't have the necessary hardware? I
guess it's just available through A and S keystrokes?

Also, I think it should have a tooltip explaining what it is, as
it's rather obscure to normal people. Would you consider adding
the tooltip?

 I guess a lot of fellows (Austin?) would appreciate this patch if they only 
 knew about it, and realized the benefits of it. My patches are applied to 
 this mail.
 
 To learn more about it, please read this mail:
 
 http://lists.xmms.org/pipermail/xmms-devel/2002-January/002282.html
 
 (2002-January, duh!)

XMMS staff never answered I guess?
 
 I made packages for Mandrake Linux 9.2, check here:
 
 http://www.deserve-it.com/9.2/
 
 
 Chears.
 
 
 --- xmms/main.c   2002-02-27 15:30:28.0 +0100
 +++ xmms/main.c.oden  2003-11-12 15:23:36.0 +0100

Patch is rather small, nice :).

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Re: [Cooker] idea for MDK 10: use all iso images for installing

2003-11-12 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Keld Jørn Simonsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi!
 
 I got an idea for MDK 10:
 
 Would it not be nice if you could do network and hd installs from
 the iso images? 

Olivier, any patch pending?

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Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and df discrepancy

2003-11-10 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Sascha Noyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Just noticed by chance that rpmdrake displays a significantly different amount 
 of free diskspace from df. 
 
 / has 147 MB free (according to df) and 282 MB (according to rpmdrake). Note 
 that my only partitions are / and /home (which has a lot of free space). Any 
 ideas?

Rpmdrake talks about statfs' f_bfree, which is the real available
diskspace for installing packages, where df most probably talks
about f_bavail, which is what's important for users.

If you're using an ext2 filesystem, you may change the reserved
blocks count without loosing data, using tune2fs.

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Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] foobillard-2.9-1mdk

2003-11-10 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Olivier Blin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Should we keep this packager tag ?
 Isn't it against our packaging policy ?
 No offense to gc ;)

you definitely should change :).

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Re: [Cooker] Suggestion for Frozen Bubble

2003-11-07 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 This may not be the place, but since this is a Mandrake associated program, I 
 thought it might be.
 
 I spent awhile playing Frozen Bubble tonight. It is very addicting.  Anyway, I 
 was think that it would be interesting to not just know how many levels I 
 completed, but also how many shots it took me to get there.  If my wife and I 
 have both made it through level 33, we have tied for the high score, but if I 
 can get through level 33 with 10 fewer shots than she does, that means I win, 
 Right? :-)

Yeah why not. Though if I really get time to spend on it I'll
consider merging network stuff.
 
 Or is the time it takes to get there supposed to be the tiebreaker?

I've used the time, yes.

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Re: [Cooker] Re: No more fpons

2003-11-07 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Brad Felmey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  What a typical macho opinion. I rather prefer the nice girls who can
  write good code.
 
 IIRC for GC it would be handsome guys delivering refreshments between
 bouts of perfect coding. :)

How rumours can spread..

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Re: [Cooker] Re: No more fpons: keeping the Drakes happy

2003-11-07 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Leon Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 23:29, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
  Leon Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  As of now, there is no room for hiring or paying more.
 
  What else would make Mandrake a more attractive workplace for you?
 
  I don't understand.
 
 Is there anything that either Mandrake or we could do to make your job 
 noticeably more survivable?

Ah I see now. Well I think not. We feel very lucky to work for
Mandrake actually, a very versatile and enjoyable work. And we
never forget we get paid for what we do, where a large number of
contributors just help us for free. So we don't complain much.

Well actually I speak for myself and a few others, of course
other developers may/will think differently :).
 
 I live on the other side of the planet, so I have no idea what would 
 make your day, or the collective day of the crew at your office. 
 Messages of encouragement? Photos of Pascal's nice girls with offers 
 of hospitality for your next holiday? Surprise free pizza (or French 
 equivalent? Crepes? Give us a head count and preferences, invite fpons 
 along too) for lunch? Free food and accommodation for any Drake that 
 attends LCA2004?

Thanks for the proposals :).

 Each time we *don't* install MS-Windows and MS-Office, we save ourselves 
 roughly USD$400 in licence fees (MS SQL Server? I don't have that much 
 money). If we put aside just 10% of that each time into a keep the 
 Drakes happy fund and 2% towards club membership then we still save 
 88% and just the crew reading this list (call it 100 people installing 
 an average of one system a month and you get USD$48,000 a year in the 
 slush fund plus USD$9600 a year to the Club) ought to be able to employ 
 a Drake or two by themselves - or keep the existing Drakes swamped in 
 luxuries. (-:

I guess good money from free software fans should go to Mandrake
or to GNU (or to Debian, etc). We employees are already paid,
let's not forget that's first a job we chose.

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Re: [Cooker] Re: No more fpons: keeping the Drakes happy

2003-11-07 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Austin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Somehow I think that pizza is also available and well liked in France. 

Yes (by younger people mostly).

 I'm sure they don't snack on coq au vin and gaufres for lunch, just like

We actually snack much on sandwiches with french baguette. Very
few pizzas and burgers for lunch.

 the cafeteria here at York doesn't serve bangers and mash or prime rib
 with horseradish and Yorkshire pudding very often.  Kinda wish they did
 though.

Could be enjoyable (Yorkshire pudding rulz - got friends near
Ipswich/UK).

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Re: [Cooker] Re: No more fpons

2003-11-07 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Brad Felmey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 04:08, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
  Brad Felmey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
What a typical macho opinion. I rather prefer the nice girls who can
write good code.
   
   IIRC for GC it would be handsome guys delivering refreshments between
   bouts of perfect coding. :)
  
  How rumours can spread..
 
 I just remember a post by one of your current or former workmates saying
 something about it. If I'm out of line just smack me around a little. :)

Kind of things that are dangerous to believe when they come
second-hand, especially from a male/childish set of coworkers :).

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Re: [Cooker] Re: No more fpons

2003-11-06 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Leon Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  As of now, there is no room for hiring or paying more.
 
 What else would make Mandrake a more attractive workplace for you?

I don't understand.


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Re: [Cooker] Shuttle SK41G : First screen of install (F1 / Enter) is not readable.

2003-11-05 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Pierre Jarillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 When I press enter on the very fist screen, the install continues in graphic 
 mode without any problem.
 Is there a difference of mode between them ?

Yes. Lilo/syslinux patches are based on vesa-1.2 and are real
mode code. Kernel going framebuffer is based on vesa-2.0 (linear
framebuffer).

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No more fpons [was: Re: [Cooker] more urpmi issues]

2003-11-05 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Luca Olivetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 This is on 9.2, so I should probably open a bug in anthill, but
 since fpons is more likely to read cooker...

Francois has stopped working for Mandrake. He's not anymore a
MandrakeSoft employee since Mon 3 Nov.

It hasn't been decided yet what will be done with urpmi and who
will be in charge of it.

Francois said he wanted to still contribute to urpmi
externally, but since he's got another job, it's probable he
won't have much time for that.

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Re: [Cooker] Shuttle SK41G : First screen of install (F1 / Enter) is not readable.

2003-11-05 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Pierre Jarillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Le Mercredi 5 Novembre 2003 14:18, Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit :
  Pierre Jarillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   When I press enter on the very first screen, the install continues in
   graphic mode without any problem.
   Is there a difference of mode between them ?
 
  Yes. Lilo/syslinux patches are based on vesa-1.2 and are real
  mode code. Kernel going framebuffer is based on vesa-2.0 (linear
  framebuffer).
 
 Sure, you have found !
 Lilo is self-installed in text mode. 
 After the first install I have found grub by default. 
 
 I hope a line in Errata ?

Well why not but I don't understand what was the problem. Can you
propose an errata maybe? Please submit it in the form of the
other erratas (error scenario/why/solution).

 Lilo should be pached in the future or are they hardware which don't 
 understand vesa-2.0 ? In this case, is a detection possible ?

I don't understand what you mean.

Once again, our patch to lilo and syslinux use vesa-1.2 calls (in
real mode assembly). This is typically *more* compatible than
vesa-2.0 and linear framebuffer.

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Re: [Cooker] Shuttle SK41G : First screen of install (F1 / Enter) is not readable.

2003-11-05 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Pierre Jarillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I suggest this (my english is very poor, please, do corrections) :
 
 
 iError scenario:/i
 bShuttle SK41G : First screen of install shows horizontal stripes./b
 
 briWhy:/i
 Hardware not compliant with old vesa-1.2 used by LILO.
 
 briSolution:/i
 Don't worry ! Press Enter to continue (install or update from CD) or F1 for 
 other modes.

I'm not sure it deserves an errata, especially since waiting for
timeout or pushing enter or esc cures the problem.

Anyway, that's up to Vincent.

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Re: [Cooker] Re: No more fpons

2003-11-05 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Leon Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:21, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
  Francois has stopped working for Mandrake. He's not anymore a
  MandrakeSoft employee since Mon 3 Nov.
 
 How long before Mandrake can afford to pay enough wages to make the 
 stress worthwhile?

The company is fully commited to building the necessary
environment to get out of the current observation and protection
period from the French Commercial Court. January 2004 should be
the climax. As of now, there is no room for hiring or paying
more. But you know that most employees at technical department
are almost as concerned with Linux stuff as the many contributors
out there, which allows for not only considering wages in the job
offer.

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Re: [Cooker] Shuttle SK41G : First screen of install (F1 / Enter) is not readable.

2003-11-04 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Pierre Jarillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Ah yes? First time I hear that this very compatible vesa-1.2 only
  stuff doesn't work :/.
 
 Perhaps some settings in the bios ? 
 There a two settings:
 - video RAM Cacheable [enabled|disabled]
 - VGA Share Memory Size 
 This size is now 8 M. Is this enough ? 16M, 32M ?

800x600x16bit would fit in 8 Mb without a problem..


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Re: [Cooker] Shuttle SK41G : First screen of install (F1 / Enter) is not readable.

2003-11-03 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Adam Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  After install, everything works fine. 
 
 Been reported before, I think. It's some kind of flaw in the SK41G's
 onboard graphics, I'm not entirely sure there's much Mandrake can do
 about it.

Ah yes? First time I hear that this very compatible vesa-1.2 only
stuff doesn't work :/.

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Re: [Cooker] LG-fixed cooker install available

2003-10-31 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Jim Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I remastered 9.2 with the files mentioned below (from cooker)
 using the standard Mandrake script. When the installation starts
 it shows the new kernel version.
 
 When it reaches the disk partitioning section, it does show the
 Windows partitions but it does not recognizes them as formatted.
 When clicking on such a partition is shows not formatted and
 when continuing (a manual partitioning) the checkboxes next to
 the Windows partitions indicate they will be formatted.
 
 I have no idea what is the cause, but if this is caused by the
 new kernel that should be fixed as it might destroy people's
 installations.

Ouch. I actually had forgotten the mdkinst_stage2.bz2 update, so
if you're running from cdrom it should have said you the modules
fiile was not correct?

Otherwise.. I don't know..

Jeremie, it should be nice to test this scenario with new ISO's
from Warly when they are supposed to work?

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Re: [Cooker] LG-proof kernel == -21mdk?

2003-10-31 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Leon Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:18, Leon Brooks wrote:
  Do the updates include an LG-proof (LG == Lame Goldstar) kernel
  yet? If so, what's an exact release number so I can check that my
  local mirror is up to speed?
 
 OK, Juan implies -21mdk should be happy, correct me if I'm wrong.

Intall should be really 21mdkBOOT based as of today at noon
Paris time.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /c/cooker] md5sum images/*.img isolinux/alt0/* 
Mandrake/mdkinst/lib/modules.cz-2.4.22-21mdkBOOT Mandrake/base/mdkinst_stage2.bz2 
Mandrake/base/rescue_stage2.bz2 
f1fb8278995b81af7c689a817d6e8390  images/blank.img
ef6dfb81e5774e44ede22d6cabd92d94  images/cdrom-changedisk.img
297444c202f83de01a93679a9a61751c  images/cdrom.img
a5ea89a65945ab94414d7775a93d72f0  images/hd.img
a8a6078dd76d21e220b3586c0f5e34b9  images/hdcdrom_usb.img
c32aa8737c5dae63cd7a9f504b35a7a3  images/network.img
cc4ffb3492332bc104704b19493a8ae3  images/network_gigabit_usb.img
d454ed66ff8fc25bee76989ba04483fc  images/pcmcia.img
780aaefa708a3d2d8df97903959e5d6e  isolinux/alt0/all.rdz
c3d09456473b783f321e8e76d5c4fdba  isolinux/alt0/vmlinuz
b6f5950d9fd0315fb11fea18e604630e  Mandrake/mdkinst/lib/modules.cz-2.4.22-21mdkBOOT
beda6e49080291d1e6781c8e8c9dc7c2  Mandrake/base/mdkinst_stage2.bz2
a7bb06e1263f71a5a8704b81e94eb5e6  Mandrake/base/rescue_stage2.bz2

But a full install based on a new ISO has not been fully tested
at QA yet.

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Re: [Cooker] ADSL + postfix default config = open relay?

2003-10-30 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Bruno Prior [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 P.S. I just tried running the same postconf command as you on my
 main.cf.rpmnew. This gives mynetworks as 127.0.0.0/8, same as
 you, although mynetworks is commented out. The same command on my
 main.cf gives mynetworks of 127.0.0.0/8, 192.168.1.0/24,
 my.fixed.IP.address, whether or not mynetworks is commented out.
 The difference appears to be inet_interfaces, which is set to
 localhost in the rpmnew file, but is commented out (and therefore
 = all) in my actual main.cf. Maybe an older configuration, I
 don't know. I certainly haven't changed it in a long time - I
 didn't even think about this setting. Would it work as a mail
 server sending and receiving mail for a local network if
 inet_interfaces were set to localhost?

IMHO the safer rule of thumb is to put your modifications to
main.cf at the end of the file, and when you upgrade it, use the
.rpmnew file as a base, and copy your modifications at the end.
Don't keep your old file. That way, you won't miss new default
settings (those may even fix problems).

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Re: [Cooker] ADSL + postfix default config = open relay?

2003-10-30 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Luca Berra [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 maybe we should change default postfix main.cf forcing
 mynetwork_style=host, so there would be two step to open a relay
 1) change inet_interfaces to be able to receive mail
 2) set mynetworks (comments should advise to leave mynetworks_style
 alone)
 This makes sense, since there are people who don't want to relay mail,
 but might want to receive it.

I'd say it's nice. However, why is it using subnet by default?
Maybe Wietse/others have good reasons for it? I'd prefer they
back the change on their side - also, it's better for us to
change only the lowest possible number of parameters, so that new
users are less lost when setting up our package for their needs.

 Since we are speaking of postfix default setup, it seems that Vietse has
 strong feelings against chrooting postfix by default. Simon J. Mudd
 provided a script in his rpms to add/remove the chroot by user request.
 I personally never had a problem with chroots, but what is the feeling
 around here?

I speak as maintainer of postfix - however it's public knowledge
that I don't know so much postfix after all :/.

I'd say that chrooting is good for security, and it's generally a
good option. People wanting more complex or
problematic-with-chroot configs can normally easily remove it. It
would help to know what are the strong feeling sof Wietse.

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Re: [Cooker] 9.2 Errata not init floppy: not solved

2003-10-30 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Francisco Alcaraz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 If it is impossible make a boot floppy due to the size of 
 the kernel, it could be appropriate erase this option in 
 DrakConf, couldn't it?

It should still be possible since vmlinuz's size is less than
1.44 MB.. but soom it'll not be possible anymore I guess :).

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Re: [Cooker] urpmi basesystem

2003-10-30 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Pascal Terjan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I just tryied urpmi --root /tmp/mdk basesytem, it worked really
 nicer than the first time I did it months ago.
 
 Only got 2 errors (except for kernel but that's not a problem) :
 
 8:glibc  ##
 /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.27792: line 24: rm: command not found
 
 This one is easy to fix but has no impact...

IIRC this also happens during install and that's simply not
fixable due to Requires and PreReq's (beside, it's not a
problem - again, IIRC).

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[Cooker] LG-fixed cooker install available

2003-10-29 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Hi,

I've copied to our local mirror updated files regarding
2.4.22-21mdkBOOT, which fixes the LG drives problem. Those
include boot disks, isolinux/alt0 directory and
Mandrake/mdk/modulez.cz-2.4.22-21mdkBOOT.

There have been a first batch of boot images but with a deps
problem for some network modules (at least), so I copy the md5sum
here for you to verify you're using the correct ones:

297444c202f83de01a93679a9a61751c  cdrom.img
a8a6078dd76d21e220b3586c0f5e34b9  hdcdrom_usb.img
a5ea89a65945ab94414d7775a93d72f0  hd.img
cc4ffb3492332bc104704b19493a8ae3  network_gigabit_usb.img
c32aa8737c5dae63cd7a9f504b35a7a3  network.img
d454ed66ff8fc25bee76989ba04483fc  pcmcia.img

We have tested network.img with an affected LG 8322B, install
and reboot do work nicely now.

If unsure of what version of kernel you're booting, you might
even verify it that way:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /tmp/t] strings network.img | grep 2.4.22
2.4.22-21mdkBOOT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) #1 Sat Oct 25 11:41:10 CEST 2003

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Re: [Cooker] A new guide about rpmdrake

2003-10-29 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Eric Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have done a new guide for installing media and software, with
 9.2 screenshots. It is available here
 :http://www.zebulon.org.uk/ICML0.HTML (and licensed under FDL).

thx, it's nice :).

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Re: [Cooker] [origin found] 9.2 and fried LG cdroms - what's the solution?

2003-10-29 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Leon Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 05:12, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
  Ok, here's status: Nicolas Planel found the origin of the
  problem. It's the packet writing support for cd/dvd burners
  that was introduced on 15th of August
 
 I'm astounded that anyone would ship a drive that can be fried in 
 software.

That's also much of a bad luck, the firmware was probably
designed at a time the FLUSH stuff was not even in the ATAPI
specifications - and since every manufacturer more or less needs
to use an extension of specs to do firmware updates..

What surprises me is that they don't rely on a magic at the
beginning and end of the new firmware sequence, or a md5sum-alike
of the firmware sequence. If it's only known to the hardware it
would be an efficient protection against viruses that would
exploit it to destroy the drive.

 What's the solution? Is a fried drive truly fried, or can they be 
 re-flashed or something to resuscitate it?

We're in technical contacts with LG in korea now. They're nice.
They've talked about a way to recover de firmware but they said
it's not easy for typical customer. We'll see what is it exactly.

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Re: [Cooker] 9.2 Errata not init floppy: not solved

2003-10-29 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Francisco Alcaraz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Sharrea,
 
 I prepared also a floppy for my laptop and have the same 
 reboot after several minutes trying to download the 
 vmlinux.

I think over burnt floppies might not be so reliable, and might
also be problematic with bootloaders.

Just a guess.

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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-27 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Steffen Barszus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  On Friday 24 October 2003 07:14 am, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
   Guillaume Cottenceau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
For the moment, it seems it's related to LG CRD-84xx drives.
  
 
 
 Another Question. Is it safe to install Mdk 9.2 with another drive and 
 have an LG on the machine afterwards ? Or should i wait till a kernel 

*NO*! It seems that normal kernel is even stronger than BOOT
(install) kernel: some ppl have had the LG cdrom fried at boot of
the normal kernel.

Please wait for the update kernel, or your drive will be damaged.

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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-24 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Larry Nguyen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  But did you use your CDROM in 9.2 final? That seems to toast a
  drive as well.
 
 Yes I've been using the dvd drive. I'm watching dvd and read data CD no
 problem. Maybe it will die in a few days? Will see.
 
 The system is PIII/933MHz Soyo MB. 

thx

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Re: [Cooker] 9.2 cannot produce a floppy boot disk.

2003-10-24 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Randy Welch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 9.1:  1252778 Mar 14  2003 /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.13mdk
 
 But you can still create a boot floppy with 9.1...

That depends on the quantity of modules that will need to go in
the initrd. If you use XFS or some large SCSI adapters, that
won't be possible.

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Re: [Cooker] uncompress package not exist ?

2003-10-24 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Gilles Crebassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hello ,
 
 
 The software Informix and Borland C++ Builder X and other require
 uncompress , but urpmi uncompress not found.

Install ncompress from contrib, or use gzip which can uncompress
.Z files.

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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-24 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  CDR-8400B(mi)
 = ^^
 Is this a typo?

Probably - but not for me, I always do a copy-paste. It was
copied from MandrakeClub.

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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-24 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Steffen Barszus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 My LG drive is a DVD/CD-R/RW/CDROM Combo drive (GCC 4480B, firmware 
 1.00), so it aren't only cdrom drives, but also burner. 

Ouch!

Regis says in a previous mail that the following works:

HL-DT-ST GCC-4480B (machine: Shuttle SB 62 G2 - i865/ICH5)

It seems to be exactly the same as yours! :/

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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-24 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Régis Wira [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Mine has a 1.01 firmware

Very interesting then.

Listing all firmware versions needed will be long though :/.

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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-24 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Vedran Ljubovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have here a HL-DT-ST GCE-8400B CD-RW. MB is a
 taiwanese (i think Chaintech) with VIA KT-266. RC2
 installed fine, didn't have time to try 9.2 final
 though, I'll probably do it over the weekend and let
 you know. How do I find the firmware version?

If unchanged, it's printed in a sticker on the upper side of the
drive, generally. If update, I don't know, visit LG website,
there's probably Windows .exe utilities to do that.

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[Cooker] [IMPORTANT] [UPDATED: origin of the problem found] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-24 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Guillaume Cottenceau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 For the moment, it seems it's related to LG CRD-84xx drives.

Ok, here's status: Nicolas Planel found the origin of the
problem. It's the packet writing support for cd/dvd burners
that was introduced on 15th of August, changelog reading:

- 2.4.22-rc2q5.
  [...]
  * add packet cdvd support (svetoslav).

What amazes me is that we've had it in the kernel of 9.2-RC1 and
9.2-RC2, and it still managed to be, erhm, featured, in the
final version. All people who say we should do more beta and RC
versions see that such a big problem passed one month of
RC-testing... Real problem would perhaps be to enlarge our
testing community? Anyway, that's not the topic for this day :).

I've passed suggestions to our management as to what to do now -
I think we should act *fast* and be responsible, but I don't know
what will be decided exactly.

By the way, latest list:

fried:
COMPAQ CRD-8322B(CP1)
CRD-8400B (machine: Dell Optiplex gx1)
CRD-8400B (machine: IBM PC 300 PL)
CDR-8400B(mi)
CRD-8400C
COMPAQ CRD-8402B
LG CRD-8480C (machine: Old Dell XPS T650r)
GCR-8481B (machine: Dell Optiplex gx270; rom: 1.06; date: jun 2003)
CRD-8482B (machine: Dell Optiplex GX1)
GOLDSTAR CDR-8482B (machine: HP Vectra VL400; firmware: 1.01)
CRD-8482B (Dell Precision 220, rom: 1.05)
LG  (machine: HP Vectras VL4xx)
GCC 4480B DVD/CD-R/RW/CDROM (firmware 1.00 - upgrading firmware to 1.01 workarounds 
problem)

work:
LG GMA-4020B DVD-RW
LG GCC-4120B CDRW/DVD
LG CD-RW CED-8080B DVD/CD-R/RW/CDROM
LG CD-RW CED-8120B (motherboard: ASUS K7M)
HL-DT-ST GCC-4480B (machine: Shuttle SB 62 G2 - i865/ICH5; firmware 1.01 - WARNING, 
firmware 1.00 is reported to have the fry problem!)
HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4480B (motherboard: ASUS A7N8X-Deluxe)
HL-DT-STDVD-ROM GDR8161B (motherboard: Soyo)
HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8240B
HL-DT-ST GCE-8481B CD-CDRW (chipset: SIS 651/962)
HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8520B
HL-DT-ST GCE-8520B (motherboard: ASUS P4P800)

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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-24 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Guillaume Cottenceau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 For the moment, it seems it's related to LG CRD-84xx drives.

My updated list:

fried:
CRD-8322B
CRD-8400B (machine: IBM PC 300 PL)
CDR-8400B(mi)
CRD-8400C
COMPAQ CRD-8402B
CRD-8482B (machine: Dell Optiplex GX1)
GCR-8523B
LG  (machine: HP Vectras VL4xx)

work:
HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8520B
HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4480B (motherboard: ASUS A7N8X-Deluxe)
LG CD-RW CED-8120B (motherboard: ASUS K7M)
LG GMA-4020B DVD-RW
HL-DT-STDVD-ROM GDR8161B (motherboard: Soyo)

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Re: [Cooker] missing xirc2ps_cs.o for pcmia install of 9.2

2003-10-23 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Nicolas Pomarede [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

[...]

 Hello Guillaume,
 
 thanks for your answer. Although I tried the pcmcia.img, sthg must have
 been wrong with my card, since as you suggested it, I retested this image
 and it now works (in fact, it's the first time there's a disk that works
 with ths card, so I was not really surprised when it didn't work at first
 and I was preparing myself to do it the hard way).

Great! :)
 
 Well, in the meantime, as I thought the modules was also missing from the
 pcmcia disk, I extracted the required .o modules from the boot kernel
 modules and added them to the network.rdz to build a single disk that
 worked (which was silly, but at least I now know how to build such disk
 for the case where a module will really not be included in any .img :) )

Yep :).
 
 So, appologies from myself, and congrats to you, since the 9.2 pcmcia disk
 effectively recognizes my card.

No problem. And congrats go more to the community, author of
pcmcia-cs, etc, which added support for your card :). Congrats
to them.
 
 Nevertheless, during the process of rebuilding a complete boot disk, I had
 to extract/build .mar archives. I compiled the sources from your page, but
 is there a RPM with prebuilt tools (I mean the tools/script that are used
 to build the various img and others non-rpm part of each mandrake
 release) ?

No, there is no RPM prebuilt mar.

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Re: [Cooker] oggenc problem

2003-10-23 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Gwenole, your 1.0-11mdk broke it, it seems.
 
 Please fix ASAP... I need to rip/encode the new Rush live album... ;o)

It's fixed in cooker by gwe.

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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-23 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Curtis Hildebrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I've had confirmations that with another LG model, the HL-DT-ST
  CD-ROM GCR-8520B, 9.2 worked nice (e.g. did NOT do any damage to
  the cdrom drive). Also, with the HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8522B,
  9.2rc2 worked nice (it's then -probable- 9.2 will work nice).
 
 If your looking for LG drives that work, my DVD/CD-RW works fine on a
 ASUS A7N8X-Deluxe motherboard.
 
 ]$ cat /proc/ide/hdc/model
 HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4480B

Thanks!

Then here's my current list:

fried:
CRD-8400B (machine: IBM PC 300 PL)
CRD-8482B (machine: Dell Optiplex GX1)
CRD-8322B
GCR-8523B

work:
HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8520B
HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4480B (motherboard: ASUS A7N8X-Deluxe)

That's not many, under the work label. And I'm a bit surprised.
No one else has a working 9.2 with an LG drive?

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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-23 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Steffen Barszus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Oct 23 12:53:49 localhost kernel:  I/O error: dev 0b:00, sector 1404912
 Oct 23 12:53:55 localhost kernel:  I/O error: dev 0b:00, sector 1407792
 Oct 23 12:54:02 localhost kernel:  I/O error: dev 0b:00, sector 1410672
 
 
 I have to investigate that further. I can't imagine how a drive can be 
 fried by booting from it :( . I thought the kernel panic was because of 
 a bad image. Will check cabling and all the other things in the evening 
 today.

Thx! Keep us in touch.

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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-23 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Larry Nguyen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 My LG dvd works fine with beta*, rc*. I don't have final ISOs to
 test. I did a net-install from ftp.

But did you use your CDROM in 9.2 final? That seems to toast a
drive as well.
 
 Here's the model
 HL-DT-STDVD-ROM GDR8161B


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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-23 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
illogic-al [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Germ from mandrakeusers.org reported that his LG GMA-4020B DVD-RW
 installed 9.2 no probs

thx

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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-23 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 LD CD-RW CED-8120B on a ASUS K7M mobo works fine also.

that's LD? not LG?

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Re: [Cooker] I just installed Mandarke 9.2 Download edition on a IMP PC 300 PL, and it FRIED the CDROM drive

2003-10-22 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Luis Alves [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I tried to install the Mandrake 9.2 Download edition on
 a IBM PC 300 PL
 witch has a
 LG CDROM
 CRD-8400B
 
 and the cdrom was death before it showed the panel to select the packages.
 I never seen this before so I assumed it was a cdrom problem.
 So I removed the cdrom drive connect it to another computer and
 it doesn't work any more.
 doesn't even turn the ligth on.
 
 In my company we have several of these machines so I removed a
 cdrom from another PC 300 PL machine
 and connected to this one, just to see if i could finnish the instalation.
 
 It just fried the second cdrom drive also (LG CRD-8400B)
 
 I realized that the new mandrake just cost me to CDROM drives.
 I couldn't believe it.

Thanks for your report and sorry for that. This is astounding. I
hope Juan can advice us a workaround, and soon fix it in the
kernel...

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Re: [Cooker] Help - Can't Install 9.2!!!

2003-10-22 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Any ideas? - I really want to try 9.2!!!
 
 You might want to give some info about the setup you are installing it on, and 
 you might want to post this to expert too.
 
 have you tried any of the standard noapic, acpi=ht boot parameters?

Install (and post-install) are using acpi=ht by default.

You might want to try noapic, nolapic, ide=nodma, some
pci= options might help also.

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Re: [Cooker] No XFS for you, sucker

2003-10-22 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 BTW, on servers, I typically install with a small root ext3 filesystem,
 /usr and /tmp ext3, /var and data partitions on LVM, usually XFS. This
 avoids the root on LVM issues, but still gets you the majority of the LVM
 benefit (resizing partitions which can vary greatly in required capacity).

Root on lvm should be supported? I remember I've even tested that
during 9.2 debugging process. Ah but this is limited to a LV not
spanning across several PV's, that is? I can't be sure. Then LVM
might be a little less interesting :).

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Re: [Cooker] 9.2 cannot produce a floppy boot disk.

2003-10-22 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
John Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


[...]

  Get a bigger floppy disk, or use ext2 filesystems only, or provide a
  patch to make smaller kernels.
 
 Yes; but who is responsible for this. 9.2 has been released with the inability 
 to create a boot floppy on a standard 1440 sized floppy.

Because of growing kernels, the need for drivers, and floppy
drives staying at 1.44 MBytes size for more than 10 years. We
can't do magic. We provide several ways of booting and rescueing
a machine (come on, one can boot the rescue by cdrom, hard-drive,
or network, that should be enough isn't it). I don't think other
Linux vendors do more magic than us. If they do, please tell me,
we could consider using the same magic than us.
 

[...]

 Yes; usually use the CD myself. But none the less this is really not 
 acceptable. 9.2 has too many stupid problems, from no screensavers in KDE, 
 broken urpmi, and now this. The list is just growing day by day.

Typical. As long as more people test it, we discover remaining
problems. May I remind you it's simply not possible to provide a
100% bug free software release? And please also consider the
(low) number of employees and contributors we have to make a
release.

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Re: [Cooker] 9.2 cannot produce a floppy boot disk.

2003-10-22 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
John Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Not so.   I periodically tested the cooker tree for the ability to
  create a good install and a running Mandrake.
 
 Try this script; it creates a 1680k formatted floppy.

If we want to go with larger floppies with 1.44 MBytes drives, we
need serious testing. I'm afraid this brings lots of hardware
problems (and floppies already have much hardware problems).

Not talking about frying the floppy drive, a-la LG? :)

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Re: [Cooker] 9.2 cannot produce a floppy boot disk.

2003-10-22 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Svetoslav Slavtchev [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  FWIW, this exact same problem also existed in 9.1, so it is not a 9.2 
  regression.
 
 well not exactly 
 
 in 9.1 the problem was only with xfs (module is ~300k)
 
 in cooker/9.2 the kernel is compiled with all debuging symbols
 (not the case with 9.1), and the kernel is with ~300k bigger

Isn't it an ACPI interpreter problem, rather? There is no such
300k difference between 9.1 and 9.2. ACPI was introduced for 9.1
IIRC, and one can see a big change between 9.0 and 9.1:

8.0:   833285 Apr 15  2001 /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.3-20mdk

8.1:  1047752 Sep 23  2001 /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.8-26mdk

8.2:   887614 Mar 15  2002 /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-6mdk

9.0:   880346 Sep 20  2002 /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.19-16mdk

9.1:  1252778 Mar 14  2003 /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.13mdk

9.2:  1343803 Sep 18 12:43 /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.22-10mdk

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Re: [Cooker] 9.2 cannot produce a floppy boot disk.

2003-10-22 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Pascal Cavy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I second this, for example I have a machine where lilo does not work so I HAVE 
 TO use a boot disk to start it. After 9.2 upgrade, I cannot create such a 
 boot disk. (disk full during creation).

You might consider the 1.6 mbytes floppy. But rather, why lilo
doesn't work? It should.

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Re: [Cooker] 9.2 cannot produce a floppy boot disk.

2003-10-22 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Ron Stodden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  well not exactly in 9.1 the problem was only with xfs (module
  is ~300k)
 
 Disagree.   I am talking about a vanilla ext2 install of 9.1 - it
 cannot produce a boot floppy.

/me thinks it can.

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Re: [Cooker] 9.2 cannot produce a floppy boot disk.

2003-10-22 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Mandrake 9.1
  127509 Jul 30 17:48 initrd-2.4.21-0.25mdk.img
 1263795 Jul 24 16:02 vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.25mdk
   1391304
 Mandrake 9.2
  414616 Sep 22 12:46 initrd-2.4.22-10mdk.img
 1343803 Sep 18 06:43 vmlinuz-2.4.22-10mdk
   1758419

What a large difference between initrd's... are you using a
different filesystem by any chance? Can you zcat and mount them
and look inside what's going on? Don't remember any mkinitrd
changes that could explain that. You might be using XFS or LVM in
9.2 that you didn't in 9.1?

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Re: [Cooker] 9.2 cannot produce a floppy boot disk.

2003-10-22 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Randy Welch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Only problem is that it will only find the first installed linux
 on your disk.  My test installs are always in later partitions.

Well, not exactly, the first installed *Mandrake* Linux on your
disk.

That's automatic stuff: go to a console and mount any other
partitions if you may.

 The rescue image tends to find the first one it sees.  (so on my
 system it would see my 9.1 install instead of the 9.2...

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Re: [Cooker] 9.2 - disaster already?

2003-10-22 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Ron Stodden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  A workaround is to launch update-menus as root.
 
 1.  Do an initial install with hd.img of 9.2, selecting
 everything except servers.  Include nfs client.
 
 2.  Then use software install to install all the kde* RPMs which
 were not installed.
 
 3.  Note all the missing kicker panel big K menu items.
 
 4.  Running update-menus has no apparent effect.
 
 5.  Installing the Mandrake Updates solves the problem.

Passing the information to fredl, thanks. I hope this is a
*reproductible* scenario, not just that you had this one? :)
We'll try that.

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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-22 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Teletchéa Stéphane [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Le mer 22/10/2003 à 13:59, Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit :
  Hi,
  
 
 Be carefull !
 You misread my post : i'm saying UNTIL 9.1, i need to desactivate DMA
 for my LG cdrom/burner  model HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8240B.

I didn't quote anything from you, did I?

I didn't even mention the GCE-8240B.

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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-22 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I am very doubtful if the fried drives have anything to do with dma.

Where do you think it could come from?

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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-22 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Pascal Terjan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  DMA is not supported on the CRD-8400B, it is in the kernel
  nodma blacklist (drive_list_entry drive_blacklist).
 Reading the list I see stuff like :
 
   { Compaq CRD-8241B,   ALL   },
   { CRD-8400B   ,   ALL   },
   { CRD-8480B,  ALL   },
   { CRD-8480C,  ALL   },
   { CRD-8482B,  ALL   },
   { CRD-84  ,   ALL   },

So this is definitely beyond DMA problems since people fried
CRD-8400B and CRD-8482B already :/.

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Re: [Cooker] oggenc problem

2003-10-22 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Torstein Dybdahl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 hi!
 There seems to be a problem with oggenc.
 and libvorbisenc
 
 wav files that are encoded to ogg is consequently encoded at 0 kbps.
 
 Does anybody else se the same problem?

Yes, sees the same problem.

Gwenole, your 1.0-11mdk broke it, it seems.

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Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-22 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
ef2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Now : LG CD-ROM Model GCR-8523B :/
 
 http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=Splatt_Forumfile=viewtopictopic=12989forum=10

Ouch, that resembles much the GCR-8520B reported to work
correctly :/.

Then there might also be interactions with motherboards or
chipsets or bios config or bios firmware updates..

Well..

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[Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-22 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Hi,

Several people are reporting that installing the 9.2 totally
fried their LG cdrom drive. Luis Alves on cooker is reporting
that problem on an IBM PC 300 PL machine, with a LG CRD-8400B. On
MandrakeClub an article[1] reports that this happens on a Dell
Optiplex GX1 machine, with CRD-8482B and CRD-8400B models.

I've had confirmations that with another LG model, the HL-DT-ST
CD-ROM GCR-8520B, 9.2 worked nice (e.g. did NOT do any damage to
the cdrom drive). Also, with the HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8522B,
9.2rc2 worked nice (it's then -probable- 9.2 will work nice).

For the moment, it seems it's related to LG CRD-84xx drives.

Please, every people with an LG model who already installed 9.2
(download or powerpack), please report the model of your LG
drive, and whether it's still alive or not :). Please ask that
also to your friends who don't read cooker/expert lists. Also, in
the following days, one might consider not installing 9.2 with LG
drives, until we can provide a workaround to the problem.


You can have exact model name of your cdrom by looking at the
corresponding proc file. For example, if your CDROM is the first
IDE medium of your second IDE adapter, its name is hdc and you
can do the following to see the model:

cat /proc/ide/hdc/model

You can even do that at the very beginning of the graphical
install, by going to the second console (Ctrl Alt F2) and typing
the previous command. This should be safe as the fry always
occurs at the beginning of the package installation. Then, reboot
your computer.


Thanks!


Ref: 
[1] 
http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=Splatt_Forumfile=viewtopictopic=12568forum=9

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Re: [Cooker] !! 9.2 issues -- help

2003-10-21 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Adrian Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi I just installed 9.2 and I have a few problems.

This is not a 9.2 support list.
 
 1. I have a Logitech Quickcam for notebooks pro
 and I've been using it since 9.1.  In 9.1 it recognized
 it and used the pwc module.  I had to download the
 pwcx module to get more FPS out if it and get gnomemeeting to work
 so I tried to plug it in right now into 9.2 --- complete crash :(
 It says its loading the pwc module then the snd-usb-audio module
 b/c of the built in microphone but after that my laptop freezes
 I can't ssh into to it or anything... :(  any ideas on what is going on?
 or how I might be able to provide more information to mandrake b/c
 I really do need my webcam working---talk to family and friends :-P

You should read the erratas. Your problem is described and there
is even a workaround available. However, this is still in Wiki
errata, which has only a small link at the end of the official
errata page, so you might have missed it.

http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/Mandrake92

About pwcx.o, I've tried myself to insmod it (Philips D740
webcam), it failed because kernel used a different major gcc
version. One needs to hope that the happy owner of the
proprietary code might consider recompiling it. Could not find an
email address on pwcx.o official website though.

 
 2. I'm not sure why this happened but I did a very minimal install the first 
 time and then I installed loads of rpms once the system was running.  
 Prior to installing the rpms I still had mandrake menus.  After that my system
 menu changed to something containing Applications Development etc...
 only like 4 or 5 folders in the menu with hardly anything in them.  It maybe 
 had about 1 application or 2 per folder.  Nothing crazy... I just loaded up 
 menudrake and took care of it but that might be something to look at.

One needs to relaunch update-menus as root when that happens.
There is a problem when rpm %post scripts call it, it seems.

Fred, do we address this problem with an errata or something?


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Re: [Cooker] missing xirc2ps_cs.o for pcmia install of 9.2

2003-10-21 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Nicolas Pomarede [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hello to all,
 
 I'm trying to do a network install of 9.2. I'm using a PCMIA adapter from
 xircom.
 
 Doing an install using the network.img or pcmia.img disk, I get an error
 while trying to load the required module xirc2ps_cs.o (which is not

Ouch.

 present on either disk).

I need to disagree.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# mount -o loop /mnt/distrib/9.2/i586/images/pcmcia.img 
/mnt/disk
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# zcat /mnt/disk/pcmcia.rdz  /tmp/k
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# umount /mnt/disk
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# mount -o loop /tmp/k /mnt/disk
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# ~gc/cvs/gi/mdk-stage1/mar/mar -l 
/mnt/disk/modules/modules.mar | grep xirc
xirc2ps_cs.o
xircom_cb.o
xircom_tulip_cb.o

Was it an error because of something else, maybe?

pcmcia-cs author changed his detection way, this broke for a few
people as we had some trouble with Buchan ~ 1.5 month ago.
 
 I tried the expert install, with an additional disk (as described in the
 README in the images directory for SCSI drivers) ; I formatted an ext2fs
 disk and copied the unzipped xirc2ps_cs.o file on it.
 Unfortunately, when I try to load the xirc2ps_cs.o when prompted for, it
 failed and I get lots of undefined symbol in ALT+F3 console (printk,
 strstr).

You need to use xirc2ps_cs.o from the BOOT kernel, right, not
stock kernel, of course.

But, there are CS controller and cards initialization issues that
make it fail when you try to insmod card modules by hand - at
least it happened to me, don't know if it's
typical/common/anything.
 
 I guess the problem might be caused by the fact that I extracted the
 xirc2ps_cs.o module from kernel-2.4.22.10mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm and not from
 kernel-BOOT-2.4.22.10mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm, because the xircom module is not

Yes.

 present in the later one.

Been on drugs lately? :)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -qpl 
/mnt/distrib/9.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/kernel-BOOT-2.4.22.10mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm | grep 
xirc2ps
/lib/modules/2.4.22-10mdkBOOT/kernel/drivers/net/pcmcia/xirc2ps_cs.o.gz

Or I've just switched to a parallel universe that is :/.

 I tried to copy ds.o and pcmi_core.o on the disk, but it didn't resolve
 the problem.

At least, dependencies are mandatory, yes. But still init of
controller is needed I think.

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Re: [Cooker] OT - RPM question...

2003-10-21 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Scott Chevalley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I've been updating my box using urpmi --auto-select for at least the past two 
 or three release cycles, constantly running cooker.  I'm wondering if there is 
 anyway to use urpmi or rpm to give me a list of files that exist on my system 
 that don't belong to any installed packages, so I can clean things up a little 
 bit.  

You might also want to have a look at leaves packages (packages
that are not required by any other ones), there are things to
remove from them, especially the ones that match /^lib/. You may
want to use commandline urpmi_rpm-find-leaves or the relevant
sort option in rpmdrake-remove.

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Re: [Cooker] LM9.2: What a nice release!

2003-10-21 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Frederic Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi
 
 I just wanted to tell you guys at Mandrake and all the contributors that
 you produced a very nice release indeed!

thx :)


[...]

 Minor ennoyances (using Powerpack Edition):
   - during the installation, the windows for the individual package
 selection were unusually small (I had to use the right-left
 scrolling to see anything)
 This was not happening in RC2.
   - during the summary, same pbm.
 This was not happening in RC2.
   - during the services activation/deactivation, same pbm
 This was not happening in RC2.

Arnaud de Lorbeau also had this one time I think. But this
happened too late and few for us to be able to reproduce/fix.
 
   - during the disk partitioning (custom partitioning) the external
 USB storage was recognized as sda1, the firewire drives were
 recognized as sdb1, sdb2 and sdc1
 Trying to assign mount points like /mnt/multimedia, the installer
 tried to mount /mnt/mnt/multimedia

during installation, which should be normal, since normal
system lives in the /mnt prefix.

 I reported the pbm in bugzilla for beta2 I believe.
 sdb1 was indicated as being FAT32 when it's EXT3...

ouch. pixel could make use of /root/drakx/report.bug.gz maybe.

 After changing the mount point to something the installer would
 accept the rest of the installation was pretty straight forward
 (except for the small windows pbm).
 
   - upon reboot the external devices caused some troubles as they
 could not be mounted and I was presented with the fsck option or
 Ctrl-D (kind of going circles here).
 This may be due to the fact that during the boot up sequence the
 firewire modules seem to be activated after the mounting sequence.

sucks :(. that need a workaround or a fix in the initscripts :/.

 The only solution was to somehow find a way to edit the fstab to
 remove the definitions for these drives...

or substiture defaults by noauto so they are not
automatically mounted at boot time.


[...]

 The good:
   - well, thanks to urpmi, contrib and plf pretty much everything is
 setup and working well, audio, mp3, dvd playing, opengl (nvidia
 drivers), games (CivCTP, quake3, RTCW, Neverwinter Nights ** those
 are not available through urpmi, go buy them!), VMWare,

*which* games??? :)


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Re: [Cooker] 9.2 fails to load installer

2003-10-17 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Patrick Mullaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 All,
 
   I am trying to install the 9.2 PowerPack Installation. I have tried

(this is no stable-release support list)

 installing directly from CD1, from a network.img floppy, and from a
 cdrom.img floppy, all with the same result. Unfortunately, I do not have
 the exact syntax, but it does complain about 'second stage install'  and
 'I cannot continue =('. It is griping about run_install2 error. I also

usually happens with problems reading the cdrom. try booting with
ide=nodma for example, you may try noapic as well but I think
there is no connection whatsoever.


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Re: [Cooker] hd.img installation of 9.2

2003-10-17 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
FACORAT Fabrice [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Le jeu 16/10/2003 à 15:40, Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit :
  Thomas Backlund [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
I did a Swedish install with 'advanced' added as English-GB -
mc is pure shit in CLI.
  This would not have happened if sweden opted for the euro, maybe?
  (en_GB - latin15, sv - latin1; they are different, opt for
  utf8).
 
 england does not opt too ...

yep - comes from the fact that en_IE was not separated from en_GB
for a long timem I guess.

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Re: [Cooker] 9.2 - disaster already?

2003-10-16 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Ron Stodden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Oddly, installing all the 9.2 updates solved all problems
 (although there is no apparent reason why in the explains of the
 RPMs involved).

There seems there is still an odd locking problem when we
launch update-menus from within %post scriptlet of an RPM
(problems arises from the fact update-menus do itself an rpm
call, rpm -qa), flepied spent a large amount of time trying to
fix that before 9.2, actually had some success with some
scenarios, thought he caught all of them, but apparently not
really all, the problem being that it's very rare here and
absolutely not reproductible :/.

If *anyone* can reproduce it, please post here the steps to
reproduce it, I'm sure we can come up with a fix quickly. But
without it, it's a hell to debug.

A workaround is to launch update-menus as root.

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Re: [Cooker] hd.img installation of 9.2

2003-10-16 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Thomas Backlund [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I did a Swedish install with 'advanced' added as English-GB -
  mc is pure shit in CLI.
 
 That made your install default to UTF-8, 

This would not have happened if sweden opted for the euro, maybe?
(en_GB - latin15, sv - latin1; they are different, opt for
utf8).

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Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]

2003-10-08 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
 Something along the lines of All packages, by Group
 in RpmDrake. However, those categories are horrible.
 Why don't we just use the same categorization as used
 in menus? That would be very intuitive for the user. I

I don't know. Between 7.0 and 7.1 times we decided for the Menu
and Rpm-Groups new architecture, which is a bit different, I
don't know why because I didn't decided for them. Warly maybe you
remember?

  - Much, much more meta-information
 Given the above observations, these are the least that
 should be added to present RPM meta-info:
  * a nice name
  * a category under the new categorization
  * an icon/logo
  * a screenshot
  * list of plug-ins and add-ons for use in the pop-up
 (may be achieved with what-requires?)

There would take very much diskspace, especially screenshots! And
what about the time needed to do all the screenshots, list
plugins..


[...]

  - Sources and Media mess
 The term source was simply horrible. The first time
 I saw it, I thought it had something to do with
 .src.rpm files. Medium is much better, but it has
 issues. Mostly because people associate the word
 media to CDs, DVDs, tapes etc. but not to Internet
 repositories. The main power of urpmi IMO lies exactly
 in its Internet capabilities. Therefore I present you
 my proposal for a new (ugh! not again ;) name for
 this: channels.

We decided for Media on this list around 3 months ago, this was a
sort of community decision I'd say, so I think it's
counter-productive to change them all again, except of course if
everyone on this list would strongly agree with channels
instead of media (which I personally don't, but I may be the
only one ;p).
 
  - Add more sources/media/channels automatically
 I know that Mandrake will never implement this, but
 what the hell :) one can dream.
 The biggest problem with RpmDrake is that sources are
 still too complicated to configure. Therefore I

Olivier Thauvin's easy-urpmi should be integrated in the media
configuration tool, when I have time :/ however I'm not very much
in favor of pushing newbies to use external packages (at the time
cooker was easily addable graphically, so many people broke their
system by trying to install programs ugrades).

  - There should be a clearer distinction between
 packages coming from different sources. I.e. I should
 be able to see a package coming from Cooker and the
 one from CDs and choose one of them as I please.

Current rpmdrake architecture can't make use of different media
for a single package-version-release :/.


[...]

 Thank you for reading this enormous mail :) I'm not
 very good at English so sometimes it takes me more
 words to articulate my point. Anyway I hope there are
 some useful ideas here.

Thank you for your contribution and I hope that my answer is not
too frustrating.


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Re: [Cooker] help with gdam

2003-10-07 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  The problem fixer will receive due credit.  This is urgent... for reasons I  
  can't reveal... YET!
 
 I think (but could be wrong) from a quick glance at the code that you can 
 just remove all the ## in front of prefix in that file (but leave the ## 
 behind prefix where it is)

Yep. Tis like in BitchX and Mesa.

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Re: [Cooker] errata 9.2

2003-10-07 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Thomas Backlund [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 # urpmi lm_sensors
 # dmidecode
 
 and post the info from Handle 0x, Handle 0x0001, Handle 0x0002,
 
 along with the info of what or how it's broken, 
 and what you need to use to get the system working... such as acpi=off, 
 noapic, 
 
 those provide all the info we use in dmi_scan.c to work around problems...

wikified! thx.

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Re: [Cooker] help with gdam

2003-10-07 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I think (but could be wrong) from a quick glance at the code that you can 
 just remove all the ## in front of prefix in that file (but leave the ## 
 behind prefix where it is)

--- ./server/plugins/gdasspatialstereo.c.gege   2001-01-12 05:24:56.0 +0100
+++ ./server/plugins/gdasspatialstereo.c2003-10-07 15:02:46.0 +0200
@@ -54,9 +54,9 @@
(GtkObject* object, GdamArg* arg)   \
 {  \
GdasSpatialStereo* spatial = GDAS_SPATIAL_STEREO(object);   \
-   spatial-##prefix##_x = GDAM_ARG_DOUBLE_ARRAY(arg).array[0];\
-   spatial-##prefix##_y = GDAM_ARG_DOUBLE_ARRAY(arg).array[1];\
-   spatial-##prefix##_z = GDAM_ARG_DOUBLE_ARRAY(arg).array[2];\
+   spatial-prefix##_x = GDAM_ARG_DOUBLE_ARRAY(arg).array[0];  \
+   spatial-prefix##_y = GDAM_ARG_DOUBLE_ARRAY(arg).array[1];  \
+   spatial-prefix##_z = GDAM_ARG_DOUBLE_ARRAY(arg).array[2];  \
 }  \
\
 static void gdam_spatial_arg_get_##arg_name\
@@ -65,9 +65,9 @@
GdasSpatialStereo* spatial = GDAS_SPATIAL_STEREO(object);   \
GDAM_ARG_DOUBLE_ARRAY(arg).length = 3;  \
GDAM_ARG_DOUBLE_ARRAY(arg).array = g_new(double, 3);\
-   GDAM_ARG_DOUBLE_ARRAY(arg).array[0] = spatial-##prefix##_x;\
-   GDAM_ARG_DOUBLE_ARRAY(arg).array[1] = spatial-##prefix##_y;\
-   GDAM_ARG_DOUBLE_ARRAY(arg).array[2] = spatial-##prefix##_z;\
+   GDAM_ARG_DOUBLE_ARRAY(arg).array[0] = spatial-prefix##_x;  \
+   GDAM_ARG_DOUBLE_ARRAY(arg).array[1] = spatial-prefix##_y;  \
+   GDAM_ARG_DOUBLE_ARRAY(arg).array[2] = spatial-prefix##_z;  \
 }
 
 define_set_and_get(left_ear,   lear)


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Re: [Cooker] [ANN] drakconnect (aka networking) maintenance

2003-10-06 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 so if you have enough information (error trace when running from a
 terminale, wrong config files or better diff of wrong  good config
 files, and the like...), please report/fill bug reports with that.

I find the default using of tmdns a problem since in DHCP config
we end up with DNS queries spending 4-5 seconds to answer instead
of the traditional feeling of immediate answer (because
/etc/resolv.conf contains 127.0.0.1). If tmdns is not detectable,
please make it an option in expert mode (I think flepied doesn't
want we default on not-using-it :/).

A tooltip on Network Hotplugging would be very convenient also.
I would never have guessed this has to do with link beat
detection.

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Re: [Cooker] errata 9.2

2003-10-06 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Gwenole Beauchesne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi,
 
  Error scenario: when doing a network install, on recent
  machines, the network card seems to not respond (no DHCP answer
  received for  example)
  Why: problem with APIC
  Solution: type F1 then linux noapic when booting
 
 BTW, I saw that occuring on some instances of nvidia|via based
 motherboards. It is currently workarounded on AMD64 with

 disabling APIC there by default.
 
 Could you please precise the type of those recent machines? On
 plain x86, it should be even easier to blacklist those.

Happened for me with an Asus Terminator K7 DDR[1] which has an
ASUS A7S motherboard owning a SiS 740 chipset (I think).

How should I provide identification information?

Ref: 
[1] http://www.asus.com/products/desktop/termk7_ddr/overview.htm

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Re: [Cooker] errata 9.2

2003-10-06 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Thomas Backlund [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I would like to know that too ... I have seen it myself on a few Gigabyte
  Socket A boards with VIA chipsets (like GA-7VTXH IIRC).
 
 # urpmi lm_sensors

I think lm_sensors is behaving bad on this machine, since when
service starts the fan will run at full speed afterwards
(normally it modifies the speed according to the temperature, and
will run 1/4 or 1/3 of speed most of the time), and it said it
detected an ISA bridge to the BIOS, which is strange for a recent
machine like that maybe. But I'll try.

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[Cooker] errata 9.2

2003-10-02 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Please add:

Error scenario: when doing a network install, on recent machines, the network card 
seems to not respond (no DHCP answer received for example)
Why: problem with APIC
Solution: type F1 then linux noapic when booting

Thanks :).

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Re: [Cooker] drakxtools-newt is a bad rpm?

2003-09-26 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 urpmi, rpm, and MCC, are giving an error on this package from:
 
 ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS
 
 and:
 
 ftp://mandrake.redbox.cz/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS

Local copy:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~] md5sum /RPMS/drakxtools-newt-9.2-16mdk.i586.rpm 
f7d9056e8010e3eb6b9a192689c65e27  /RPMS/drakxtools-newt-9.2-16mdk.i586.rpm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~] rpm -qp /RPMS/drakxtools-newt-9.2-16mdk.i586.rpm 
drakxtools-newt-9.2-16mdk

From mandrake.redbox.cz:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/tmp] md5sum drakxtools-newt-9.2-16mdk.i586.rpm
f7d9056e8010e3eb6b9a192689c65e27  drakxtools-newt-9.2-16mdk.i586.rpm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/tmp] rpm -qp drakxtools-newt-9.2-16mdk.i586.rpm
drakxtools-newt-9.2-16mdk

From mirrors.secsup.org:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/tmp] md5sum drakxtools-newt-9.2-16mdk.i586.rpm.1
eef5fbfefa491f4b8fe87b5b7a94d674  drakxtools-newt-9.2-16mdk.i586.rpm.1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/tmp] rpm -qp drakxtools-newt-9.2-16mdk.i586.rpm.1
error: drakxtools-newt-9.2-16mdk.i586.rpm.1: V3 DSA signature: BAD, key ID 70771ff3


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Re: [Cooker] Silicon Image SATA Controler

2003-09-26 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Francois RUNAVOT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hello.
 
  
 
 I have an Abit NF7-S motherboard, 2 HD drives on the SATA controller
 (Silicon Image 31112).
 
 I have made install with linux noacpi apic=off. 

you mixed them :)

use acpi=off noapic

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Re: [Cooker] pcmcia.img doesn't boot

2003-09-26 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Mark Draheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 it won't even show the first boot screen. I tried several floppies and
 even burnt the image to CD to make sure that my floppy drive isn't
 faulty. I downloaded the img again just in case the file was corrupted
 at download.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /tmp] md5sum /c/cooker/images/pcmcia.img 
6f0dcf4e4bc72d347a05fee4e9471a6a  /c/cooker/images/pcmcia.img
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /tmp] md5sum /dev/fd0
6f0dcf4e4bc72d347a05fee4e9471a6a  /dev/fd0

On my test machine, shows the splash screen, white progressbar
progresses, kernel boot (2.4.22-10mdkBOOT), stage1 starts.

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Re: [Cooker] drakxtools-newt is a bad rpm?

2003-09-26 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


[...]

 Thanks for the verification. md5sum definitely not a match on the rpm from 
 mirrors.secsup.org repository. The same package from redbox matched your 
 results (and then installed as expected).

but you said redbox didn't work!?
 
 I am new to the cooker participation, how do we notify the admins of secsup of 
 the bad file?

I don't really know, I don't have admin contacts myself.. Next
synchro will probably fix.


Please keep cooker in CC.

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Re: [Cooker] Re: autoconf2.5.x problem

2003-09-25 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
David Walser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 lamikr_mdk wrote:
  That helped.
  Do you know is there similar kind of environment variables for selecting 
  appropriate version of aclocal and automake?
 
 Well, for example, to compile giFT, I have to do this:
 
 WANT_AUTOCONF_2_5=1 AUTOMAKE=automake-1.7 AUTOHEADER=autoheader-2.5x 
 ACLOCAL=aclocal-1.7 ./autogen.sh
^^

grmbl! don't call autoconf stuff by version name!

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Re: [Cooker] Re: autoconf2.5.x problem

2003-09-25 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Götz Waschk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Am Donnerstag, 25. September 2003, 08:25:09 Uhr MET, schrieb lamikr_mdk:
  javahl subproject in the subversion has also autogen.sh which contains 
  following calls.
  aclocal
  autoconf
  libtoolize --automake --force
  automake -a
 
 Hi,
 
 unless you change the default setting, aclocal will always be a
 symlink to aclocal-1.4, because that's the default version that has
 the highest priority. If you want aclocal 1.7, you'll have to call it
 with aclocal-1.7.

Or you may also rpm -e automake.

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Re: [Cooker] 9.2 ISOs has been sent

2003-09-25 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 If you've been following cooker from a long time, you should be able to see 
 mandrakesoft has a very long established tradition of taking decision first, 
 then eventually explain them thereafter, including to their own emplyees.

Btw, that's how most companies work, I think (even if I have no
experience in other companies yet ;p).

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Re: [Cooker] Re: Re: autoconf2.5.x problem

2003-09-25 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
David Walser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
  David Walser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
  lamikr_mdk wrote:
   That helped.
   Do you know is there similar kind of environment variables for selecting 
   appropriate version of aclocal and automake?
  
  Well, for example, to compile giFT, I have to do this:
  
  WANT_AUTOCONF_2_5=1 AUTOMAKE=automake-1.7 AUTOHEADER=autoheader-2.5x 
  ACLOCAL=aclocal-1.7 ./autogen.sh
  ^^
  
  grmbl! don't call autoconf stuff by version name!
 
 Don't yell at me, that's what I *had* to do to get giFT to work.

That's not normal. Yell at me if there is a bug (well, with an
attached patch would be nice also). WANT_AUTOCONF_2_5=1 should
be enough.

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Re: [Cooker] Re: How to upgrade from 9.1 to cooker?

2003-09-25 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Nicholas Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The first urpmi urpmi didn't want to install anything, so I must be up to 
 date with 9.1.
 Removing all the media and adding the new 3 media went fine.
 I'm now at the second urpmi urpmi and it is prompting me to install the 
 below huge list of packages. Does it look reasonable?

I've done the same this morning (install a 9.1 and do the upgrade
plan through urpmi), that gave the same list of packages. It
looks large but new urpmi needs new rpm and new perl so that
gives a few dependencies. That's normal. You may proceed.

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