[Cooker] Offensive message in KDE

2002-12-09 Thread Philippe Coulonges
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In KDE 3.1 in french, when opening an FTP connexion, you can read in the
progression window (default size) 
Ouverture d'une conne, the remaining of the message being cut.

Anybody speaking french may see it's not the greatest message you could
expect.

CU
CPHIL

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[Cooker] Strange bash dependencies

2002-10-31 Thread Philippe Coulonges
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[rootbetti rpms]# urpmi bash bash-completion
Pour satisfaire les dépendances, les paquetages suivants vont être installés 
(37 Mo):
bash-2.05b-7mdk.i586
bash-completion-20021026-1mdk.noarch
libnspr4-1.1-10mdk.i586
libnss3-1.1-10mdk.i586
mailcap-2.0.4-7mdk.noarch
mozilla-1.1-10mdk.i586


Do I really need Mozilla to have bash ?

CU
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[Cooker] chasing /usr writings

2002-10-22 Thread Philippe Coulonges
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[rootbetti cphil]# msec 3
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/share/msec/msec.py, line 269, in ?
ConfigFile.write_files()
  File /usr/share/msec/ConfigFile.py, line 411, in write_files
f.write()
  File /usr/share/msec/ConfigFile.py, line 144, in write
file = open(self.path, 'w')
IOError: [Errno 30] Read-only file system: '/usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc'

CU
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Re: [Cooker] chasing /usr writings

2002-10-22 Thread Philippe Coulonges
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Le Mardi 22 Octobre 2002 23:42, Philippe Coulonges a écrit :
 [rootbetti cphil]# msec 3
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /usr/share/msec/msec.py, line 269, in ?
 ConfigFile.write_files()
   File /usr/share/msec/ConfigFile.py, line 411, in write_files
 f.write()
   File /usr/share/msec/ConfigFile.py, line 144, in write
 file = open(self.path, 'w')
 IOError: [Errno 30] Read-only file system: '/usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc'

OK, changing security level is an pure sysadmin privilege,
sorry about this one.

I was confused as kdmrc was addressed ans I don't see why ?

CU
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Re: [Cooker] Re: chasing /usr writings

2002-10-22 Thread Philippe Coulonges
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Le Mercredi 23 Octobre 2002 00:18, Brian J. Murrell a écrit :
 On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 11:52:32PM +0200, Philippe Coulonges wrote:
  OK, changing security level is an pure sysadmin privilege,
  sorry about this one.

 Don't be so quick.  Ask yourself, why should adjusting the state of a
 machine (it's security level) be touching files in a potentially
 shared/read-only filesystem.

Exact, in a way. All the machines of a network (in the sense sharing the /usr) 
don't have to be at the same security level.

In practice, sensitive machines with different (upper) security will nearly 
always have their own /usr and often will not even have the same 
system/distro/archi.

On the other, other hand as an arcturian friend of mine said, msec is not 
network-oriented, it doesn't make the changes for all the similar machines, 
so it should not make some of the changes in /usr while leaving other configs 
untouched.

CU
CPHIL

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[Cooker] Privoxy default blocks the linux counter

2002-10-19 Thread Philippe Coulonges
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http://counter.li.org

And that's a shame.

CU
CPHIL

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Re: [Cooker] Re: Re: RFC: Can we eliminate all forms of modifying /usr for 9.*/10.0?

2002-10-08 Thread Philippe Coulonges

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Le Mardi 08 Octobre 2002 19:13, Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit :

 Ok I see. But then I think it's not so interesting to have a
 separate /usr, if the machines can be different (windows, fonts
 etc) there can be many situations where anyway you want to
 install packages for only one machine, thus invading the /usr..
 no?

That's exactly why /usr/local exists and is somehow different from /opt.

CU
CPHIL
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Re: [Cooker] urpm.pm on /

2002-10-07 Thread Philippe Coulonges

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Le Lundi 07 Octobre 2002 02:49, David Walser a écrit :
 --- Philippe Coulonges [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  [root@betti perl]# rpm -q urpmi
  urpmi-4.0-20mdk
  [root@betti perl]# rpm -ql urpmi |grep urpm.pm
  /urpm.pm
 
  Is it really the right place ?

 Do you really have that file under /?  

Not anymore, of course, but yes it was installed there.

 Did you rebuild the package?

No. In fact I did a fresh reinstall of all perl packages and some related 
stuff.
I got the urpmi binary package from the club-internet mirror and that 
happened.

  I have the same version and I get:
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/urpm.pm

Strange.

CU
CPHIL
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Re: [Cooker] urpm.pm on /

2002-10-07 Thread Philippe Coulonges

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Le Lundi 07 Octobre 2002 08:31, Philippe Coulonges a écrit :
 Le Lundi 07 Octobre 2002 02:49, David Walser a écrit :
  --- Philippe Coulonges [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   [root@betti perl]# rpm -q urpmi
   urpmi-4.0-20mdk
   [root@betti perl]# rpm -ql urpmi |grep urpm.pm
   /urpm.pm
  
   Is it really the right place ?
 
  Do you really have that file under /?

 Not anymore, of course, but yes it was installed there.

  Did you rebuild the package?

 No. In fact I did a fresh reinstall of all perl packages and some related
 stuff.

Oops. Yes, I didn't remembered.

And I have a number of message like this

Bareword found where operator expected at /dev/null line 1, near infofr.dat 
created
(Missing operator before created?)
Number found where operator expected at /dev/null line 2, near were 42
(Do you need to predeclare were?)
Bareword found where operator expected at /dev/null line 2, near 42 strings
(Missing operator before strings?)
...

Something is missing, I guess.

CU
CPHIL

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Re: [Cooker] RFC: Can we eliminate all forms of modifying /usr for 9.*/10.0?

2002-10-07 Thread Philippe Coulonges

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Le Lundi 07 Octobre 2002 11:03, Brian J. Murrell a écrit :
 Now that 9.0 is out, and work for 9.1/10.0 will start, can we please
 get committment from Mandrake that _all_ forms of modifying anything
 in /usr will be eliminated?  I am willing to help in identifying and
 submitting modifications where I can in working towards this goal.

 This is an important goal.  I am sure I am not the only user that
 wants to be able to nfs mount /usr.  Anyone with even a
 medium-to-largish size farm of Mandrake boxes could/should be NFS
 mounting /usr.

I completely agree.

What about /usr/src. I personally moved it to /usr/local/src and keep only a 
link.

And there is /usr/share/apps/kscd/cddb/ that belongs to /var/lib also.

My 2¢.

CU
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Re: [Cooker] RFC: Can we eliminate all forms of modifying /usr for 9.*/10.0?

2002-10-07 Thread Philippe Coulonges

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Le Mardi 08 Octobre 2002 00:44, Malte Starostik a écrit :
 On Tuesday 08 October 2002 00:37, rcc wrote:
  On Mon, 7 Oct 2002 15:10:00 -0700 (PDT)
 
  David Walser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   --- Philippe Coulonges [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What about /usr/src. I personally moved it to
/usr/local/src and keep only a
link.
  
   Hey so did I!  Hmm...
 
  I moved/linked RPM away

 I never build RPMs as root, so that dir never gets touched except for
 kernel builds.

You must have changed something to get that.
The basic distro has source RPMs normally built in root owned /usr/src/RPM.

And there is /usr/share/apps/kscd/cddb/ that belongs
to /var/lib also.
  
   That's probably the most well known one.  Anybody else
   have examples?

/usr/games/Maelstrom/Maelstrom-Scores also well-known perhaps, but that 
doesn't mean nothing has to be done.

rpmverify is a splendid tool for tracking these.

CU
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[Cooker] urpm.pm on /

2002-10-06 Thread Philippe Coulonges

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[root@betti perl]# rpm -q urpmi  
urpmi-4.0-20mdk
[root@betti perl]# rpm -ql urpmi |grep urpm.pm
/urpm.pm

Is it really the right place ?

CU
CPHIL

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Re: [Cooker]

2002-10-05 Thread Philippe Coulonges

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Le Samedi 05 Octobre 2002 19:21, marcos colome a écrit :

 I have two

 PHD in sciences 

If it's true, it's amazing. Could you also learn some english, it would make 
your messages more readable.

I don't blame you for writing so poorly, as it is by evidence not your native 
langage (and neither mine), but you could at least try to spell correctly the 
names of M. Torvalds and Connectiva.

By the way, M. Torvalds never writed any licence, He just used the one offered 
by M. Stallman and the Free Software Foundation. He didn't created Linux to 
help the people, but for fun. And he certainly never could have been rich as 
M. Gates by creating Linux as a proprietary product, for he then should had 
to make it alone. Linus is an emblematic figure, not the man who did it all.

CU
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[Cooker] booting trouble

2002-09-22 Thread Philippe Coulonges

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I had a crash in XFree that forced me to reboot the hard way.

At boot, I had many messages saying that dup2 could not work and /dev/null was 
on a readonly fs (I have not activated devfs).

Then, I was told my fs was corrupted and drop to a shell.

After fscking all my partitions (all of them in ext3), I rebooted and the 
problem persisted. It appeared with my 3 different kernels (vanilla 2.4.17, 
2.4.18-23mdk and 2.4.19-6-mdkcustom), and with or without initrd.

As I knew my filesystems were clean, I finally got the machine flying by 
putting rc=0 after fs checks in rc.sysinit so the script should not stop on 
these reports.

Everything works fine now, but I'm pretty sure the problem will be back at 
next boot.

My config is not an installed cooker, it's an 8.2 upgraded to cooker on a 
daily basis via drakupdaterobot. It's a laptop with a working hibernation, so 
I never reboot it without reasons. My uptime was of 17 days at the time of 
the crash. I add this to put a limit on the appearance of the problem.

Is it something known ? I made some search on the list and didn't found 
anything related.

CU
CPHIL

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Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] hot-babe-0.1.0-1mdk

2002-09-19 Thread Philippe Coulonges

Le Jeudi 19 Septembre 2002 23:27, Adam Williamson a écrit :
 On Thu, 2002-09-19 at 21:44, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
   I see absolutely *no* need to turn Mandrake into a porn distributor.
 
  It could eventually be qualified of bad taste, but not of porn. Have you
  only had a look at homepage ?
 
  Anyway, it has already been wiped out from contribs, and transfered to
  PLF. And i see absolutly *no* obligation to install it  if you don't like
  it...

 I meant, it's an entirely non-essential package; there's hundreds of
 tools to monitor your CPU temp in exactly the same fashion without
 potentially offending some people. Given that situation, there's no
 reason to include one which *could* be potentially offensive. Good to
 move it from any official link with the distro then, I agree with that
 decision.

I'm happy with that, your honor.
Could you please also remove bugsquish which hurts my animist religious 
conceptions, bzflag as proning military violence is certainly more 
questionable than any drawn young female, defenguin and xbill that M. Gates 
could find offensive, Apache for obvious racist reasons, xscreensaver which 
is an insult to any epileptic, xsoldier in order to keep good relationship 
with any alien in the neighbourhood, TuxRacer which posture a noble animal in 
degrading situation, BitchX, and finally finger as a reminder of an obscene 
gesture.

CU
CPHIL

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[Cooker] msec 4

2002-09-11 Thread Philippe Coulonges

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At level 4, msec now changes the attributes of /dev/null. Why ?

The first time I just changed the permission back, but I now have another 
problem.

[root@betti uprecords]# ll /dev/null
- -rw-r--r--1 root root0 sep 11 22:00 /dev/null
[root@betti uprecords]# chmod 777 /dev/null
chmod: échec d'obtention des attributs de `/dev/null': No such file or 
directory

CU
CPHIL
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Re: [Cooker] RC2 install: some corrections to UK English

2002-09-10 Thread Philippe Coulonges

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Le Mardi 10 Septembre 2002 22:31, Alastair Scott a écrit :

 'If the test page is still printing, please wait until it has completed
 before rebooting'.

Cool. The spec, the code and the message.

CU
CPHIL
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Re: [Cooker] write on NTFS partitions

2002-09-09 Thread Philippe Coulonges

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Le Lundi 09 Septembre 2002 14:46, Buchan Milne a écrit :

 Make a vfat (fat32) partition for read-write between both windows and
 linux. Alternatively, you could ask MS to add read support for ext2,
 ext3, ReiserFS, JFS and XFS to the next version of Windows.

OO, can't you imagine how DANGEROUS it would be ?

Would you really use a binary provided by M$ to write on you Linux partitions 
?

CU
CPHIL
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Re: [Cooker] small problem with urpmi

2002-09-07 Thread Philippe Coulonges

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Le Dimanche 08 Septembre 2002 00:14, Luis M a écrit :

 Maybe you are using a version that is too new (translation buggy)... ?

French installation.

 What does your line 351 has?

Exactly the same
$urpm-resolve_dependencies($state, \%requested,
rpmdb = $env  $env/rpmdb.cz,
auto_select = $auto_select,
callback_choices = \ask_choice,
   );

lines 199-200 too.

 Also, make sure that urpm.pm is in a path that can be found by your Perl
 instalation (whatever the version might be). Mine is in:

 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/urpm.pm

[cphil@betti Divers]$ slocate urpm.pm
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/urpm.pm
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/urpm.pm

 And I only have ONE perl module with that name:

[root@betti cphil]# cd /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/
[root@betti 5.8.0]# mv urpm.pm urpm.pm.sav
[root@betti 5.8.0]# urpmi urpmi
Afin de poursuivre la mise-à-jour, les paquetages suivants doivent être 
désinstallés:
urpmi-4.0-15mdk
Etes-vous d'accord? (O/n) 

That makes it. Thanks a lot. Smack.

CU
CPHIL

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[Cooker] povray

2002-09-05 Thread Philippe Coulonges

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Povray is still in version 3.1 in contrib.
If I remember well, it was said that a licence issue prevented from 
distributing a version that is not up-to-date.

CU
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Re: [Cooker] Asking once again . . . WHY SCSI modules on a notebook?

2002-09-04 Thread Philippe Coulonges

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Le Mercredi 04 Septembre 2002 21:37, Robert Fox a écrit :
 Why are the SCSI modules loading by default on a new install with Cooker
 on a Gateway Solo 9150LX notebook?  Without CD-Burner and no SCSI
 devices?

 Could someone please explain this?

Certainly not. In fact, I live the contrary. I just can't load the SCSI module 
(sg) needed for my usb-storage key with any 2.4.19 kernels.

I'm still not sure it's worth a report as it may comes from incorrect options 
(I don't see wich ones). I can modprobe sg and usb-storage individually, but 
they don't work together to mount my key.

CU
CPHIL

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Re: [Cooker] gnome fixes I would like to see

2002-08-28 Thread Philippe Coulonges

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Le Mardi 27 Août 2002 23:04, Frederic Crozat a écrit :
 Le Tue, 27 Aug 2002 22:51:11 +0200, Philippe Coulonges a écrit :
 
  2) Keyboard shortcuts. I lost all those I defined and either I'm too dumb
  or you can't add any.

 You can't add new keybinding since applications define which action are
 doing each keybinding..

I understand they got a prioritary access when focussed, but why can't they 
fallback to gnome or sawfish or any WM globals ?

And how can I access any application (emacs not included)'s keybinding by a 
unified GUI ?

And how can I add to emac's keybinding by the gnome-control-center

 Try upgrading to latest gnome-control-center, some issues were fixed about
 keybinding..

¾ hour after. What a day. Can't you just stop fixing things.

  3) Tick-a-stat or whatever you can call it, but an applet logviewer is a
  must for me.

 I don't understand what you really want ??

a logviewer as a gnome panel applet accessible by a menu.

  And also, at some point in cooker developpement, I lost all the launchers
  that where in drawers. I hope 8.2 users that upgrade will not pass thru
  this disagrement.

 No, they can't.. Launchers are are on panels are not migrated to GNOME 2
 panels.. Sorry.. You can try to fill a bug on bugzilla.gnome.org but I
 don't think there will be anybody working on it..

I may work on it. For I tell my users that it is one of the advantages of free 
software, not have to eve reinstall and re-configure your machine. If that's 
not trus from the user point of view, I'll lose their confidence.
Any idea of 'where to start' ?

CU
CPHIL

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Re: [Cooker] thoughts on mp3 issue

2002-08-28 Thread Philippe Coulonges

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Le Mercredi 28 Août 2002 16:57, Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit :
 Steve Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  On Wed, 2002-08-28 at 07:38, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
   Haavard wrote:
   I'm a bit surprised that this has come up now, mp3licensing.com has
   never listed any exemption for freeware decoders.
 
  That is incorrect.
 
  http://web.archive.org/web/20010331223305/www.mp3licensing.com/royalty/sw
 dec.html
  http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2000/debian-legal-26/msg00091.ht
 ml

 Hum, don't forget that Freeware != Freeofcharge != Freesoftware,
 I think that's the point. There was only exceptions for free of
 charge decoders.

The download edition is free of charge. That's an important point. Even when  
it is distributed with the commercial CD in power packs, the free sotware 
CD's are not what makes the price. You can get them for free (as beer) and 
you can get them for free associated with another, non free (as a beer and 
speech) product.

And if you join Mandrake's club, you pay for the future (your payroll, pals), 
not for what already exists.

CU
CPHIL

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Re: [Cooker] gnome fixes I would like to see

2002-08-28 Thread Philippe Coulonges

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Le Mercredi 28 Août 2002 10:04, Frederic Crozat a écrit :
 On Tue, 27 Aug 2002 22:06:48 +0100, Alastair Scott wrote:
  On Tue, 2002-08-27 at 21:51, Philippe Coulonges wrote:

  3) Tick-a-stat or whatever you can call it, but an applet logviewer is a
  must for me.
 
  Even with the menu item, rather than a panel applet, there's something
  wrong here because, at least on my system, Applications | Monitoring |
  System Log Viewer doesn't do anything (it asks for the root password,
  then nothing happens).

 This one is a bug.. I'll check..

 But for the applet, you are asking for a new feature = bugzilla.gnome.org

Maybe. But in fact, I'm asking for an old feature I have on my 8.2 machines. 
When Tick-a-stat existed, I just relaxed permissions on /var/log/messages by 
chowning it as root.cphil with 740 permission and that did the trick.

CU
CPHIL

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Re: [Cooker] rpmnew?

2002-08-28 Thread Philippe Coulonges

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Le Mercredi 28 Août 2002 13:57, FACORAT Fabrice a écrit :
 Le Mercredi 28 Août 2002 13:33, Robert Fox a écrit :
  Some files were changed with .rpmnew
 
  RPMDRAKE didn't say which files and although I found them, what are we
  supposed to do with them?  Replace the older version?  this would not be
  so clear for a newbie!

 the answer is not simple.
 you customise a config file, if rpm replace it you need to redone
 everything. But with a new version of the prog your old config file may be
 obsolete/incompatible, but as you have the new have you can recustomise the
 new one.
 Imagine each time I upgrade samba , rpm replace my smb.conf,... that's a
 pain. But with smb.conf.rpmnew I can for example add support for winbind (
 as there is more example ), etc ...

Something could be done. Let's get clear we are not talking about the current 
release here.
We could have MD5sums of config files installed stored somewhere, so we can 
check if that file has been modified or not. This way, files unmodified could 
be replaced by new ones and the user/admin would have only the truly modified 
files to check.

CU
CPHIL

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Re: [Cooker] Rpmdrake2

2002-08-26 Thread Philippe Coulonges

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Le Lundi 26 Août 2002 13:12, Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit :
 Austin Acton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Well, never thought I'd say this, but the new rpmdrake is getting a lot
  better... more searching, less popup/disappear... good work.

 We sometimes listen to ppl suggestions, ya know..

I would like to take this occasion to thank you all.
There are about 200 mails a day here, allmost all bringing trouble, sometime 
only factually, sometimes with some bitterness.
rpmdrake2 and Guillaume have been specially on pressure these last weeks.
It seems 
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Re: [Cooker] Question

2002-08-21 Thread Philippe Coulonges

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Le Mardi 20 Août 2002 22:30, Timothy R. Butler a écrit :
 Hi everyone,
   I was wondering who I might write to ask for my news site to be
 considered for inclusion in the Mandrake Linux bookmarks?

Speaking of the Mandrake Linux bookmarks, could you consider putting 
http://validator.w3.org in it. I include it for all my users and explain how 
this tool can serve to determine who of the browser or the site is faulty.

Everybody should use this.

CU
CPHIL

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si on excepte  tous les autres.
-- Winston Tuxill.
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Re: [Cooker] wine %description

2002-08-21 Thread Philippe Coulonges

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Le Mercredi 21 Août 2002 23:18, Ben Reser a écrit :
 On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 10:03:18AM +0200, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote:

  wine's %description are incorrect, wine is NOT an emulator;)
  Time to finally correct this?

 Blah who cares... It's an emulator of the interface.  Unless you're
 using the actual windows binaries it's emulation.  Try looking up the
 word emulator sometime:
 http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=emulator

 Most users don't know the fine distinction anyway and frankly using the
 term emulator is more clear.

It looks like we just found the perfect maintainer for wine in Mandrake PPC.

CU
CPHIL

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Re: [Cooker] wine %description

2002-08-21 Thread Philippe Coulonges

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Le Jeudi 22 Août 2002 01:00, Per Øyvind Karlsen a goretquoté :

 ?

Wine Is Not An Emulator.

As such, it can only work on an Intel platform, executing native Windows 
binaries.
Opposite to Windows, Linux works on many hardware platforms, but Wine can't, 
because it is not an emulator.

Does it makes the point clearer ?

CU
CPHIL

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Re: [Cooker] wine %description

2002-08-21 Thread Philippe Coulonges

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Le Jeudi 22 Août 2002 01:00, Per Øyvind Karlsen a goretquoté :
 ?

Sorry.

In my response, I mistaken your message and the one from Ben Reser.
Rereading it, it may look like you're the one that don't understand the 
difference, but he is.

For Linux PPC, I was just kidding.

CU
CPHIL

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qu'une truie peut pisser.
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[Cooker] logcheck small improvment (patch included)

2002-08-19 Thread Philippe Coulonges

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I do some administration for friends.
Their machine have a non-permanent connection to the internet, so I use e-mail 
to get their logs.
As I don't wanna put these information on postcards, I patched logcheck to use 
GPG.
I think it may be useful to other people.

76a77,80
 # A small feature to send crypted mail if they have to pass on the internet
 # Your root account should know the public key of your SYSADMIN.
 # MAIL_ENCRYPT=1
 
78c82,88
 MAIL=mail
- ---
 
 if [ $MAIL_ENCRYPT -eq 1 ]; then
 MAIL=gpg -s -a -r $SYSADMIN -e | mail
 else
 MAIL=mail
 fi
 

I have something equivalent for msec, but I coded it with my feet.

CU
CPHIL

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My make-up may be flaking 
But my smile still stays on 
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[Cooker] drakupdaterobot wrong upgrade

2002-08-19 Thread Philippe Coulonges

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As you can see from the report, drakupdaterobot replaced perl-5.8 with 
perl-5.6.

CU
CPHIL


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Subject: Mandrake Update Report 2002-08-19
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 21:29:59 +0200 (CEST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (root)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Stage 1: Opening the RPM (Redhat Package Manager) Database
* RPM database is successfully opened!
* Now locking the database, and no other program can use RPM database while
 MUR is running.

Stage 2: Collecting Mandrake Linux version information from this machine
* You are running Linux Mandrake version BETA with update machine type:
 cookeri586

Stage 3: Reading downloaded files in directory /var/cache/grpmi...

Number of files in /var/cache/grpmi = 0

Stage 4: Downloading the mirror

Visiting
 ftp://ftp.edisontel.it/pub/Mandrake_Mirror/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandra
ke/RPMS, Retry count=0 Listing directory:
 ftp://ftp.edisontel.it/pub/Mandrake_Mirror/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandra
ke/RPMS/ Upgrading RPM packages from
 mirror:ftp://ftp.edisontel.it/pub/Mandrake_Mirror/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586
/Mandrake/RPMS/ Finish collecting information for file downloads

Stage 6: Downloading 2 RPM package(s) from
 ftp://ftp.edisontel.it/pub/Mandrake_Mirror/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandra
ke/RPMS/ Downloading:
 ftp://ftp.edisontel.it/pub/Mandrake_Mirror/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandra
ke/RPMS/perl-base-5.601-6mdk.i586.rpm Downloading:
 ftp://ftp.edisontel.it/pub/Mandrake_Mirror/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandra
ke/RPMS/perl-5.601-6mdk.i586.rpm

Stage 7: Upgrading 2 RPM package(s)

- --
Upgrading: perl-5.8.0-7mdk.i586.rpm to perl-5.601-6mdk.i586.rpm okay

* Checking digital signature:
  - Linux Mandrake Security Team's GnuPG signature is found
  - MD5 checksum is valid

Deleting: /var/cache/grpmi/perl-5.601-6mdk.i586.rpm

- --
Upgrading: perl-base-5.8.0-7mdk.i586.rpm to perl-base-5.601-6mdk.i586.rpm
 okay

* Checking digital signature:
  - Linux Mandrake Security Team's GnuPG signature is found
  - MD5 checksum is valid

Deleting: /var/cache/grpmi/perl-base-5.601-6mdk.i586.rpm

Stage 8: Checking if there is a custom kernel that needs to be recompiled...
* MUR ignores automatic kernel upgrade since you don't have a custom
 configured Linux kernel

Stage 9: Updating Mandrake's global menu, and library symlinks
Done, now report the root user

Stage 10: Report it to root@localhost


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Mandrake Update Robot 1.2
Copyright (C) 2001 Cyest.org
- 

Developed by:
* Prana [EMAIL PROTECTED] - main module
* Pixel [EMAIL PROTECTED] - patches
* Geoffrey Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Mandrake 8.0 compatiblity
* Kim Schulz - Beta tester (firewall, Squid proxy server)
* Charles Nepote - Beta tester (firewall, Squid proxy server)


Special thanks to Daniel Stenberg for his curl-lib http://curl.haxx.se

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[Cooker] Re: drakupdaterobot wrong upgrade

2002-08-19 Thread Philippe Coulonges

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Le Lundi 19 Août 2002 23:48, Philippe Coulonges a écrit :

 Stage 8: Checking if there is a custom kernel that needs to be
 recompiled... * MUR ignores automatic kernel upgrade since you don't have a
 custom configured Linux kernel

By the way, there is also this :

[root@betti rpms]# uname -r
2.4.18-23mdkcustom

CU
CPHIL

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serez heureux et si vous tombez sur une mauvaise, vous deviendrez philosophe, 
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Re: [Cooker] feature request - multiple X sessions through kdm/gdm

2002-08-19 Thread Philippe Coulonges

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Le Mardi 20 Août 2002 00:52, Igor Izyumin a écrit :

 This is a nice idea, but it has its own problems.  The main one is that you
 are wanting to run more than one X server.

So what ?

  That would eat up lots of memory, 

Who says he hasn't plenty.

 would make the system slow,

Which system. I do this on a Celeron 366 each time I want to access a 
MacIntosh game that runs with 8 bits depth. Even with the 2 X servers and the 
Basilisk emulation running, a game like Specter (kind of bzflag) is perfertly 
playable.

 and the user switching would be glitchy
 (how do you password-protect it?).

Screensaver locking. But again it's a user choice.

 [SNIP]

 In short, there is no good solution that Mandrake can provide here.

Hum...

CU
CPHIL
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Proposition (with file) (was : Re: [Cooker] msec removing files?)

2002-08-17 Thread Philippe Coulonges

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Le Samedi 17 Août 2002 22:18, Levi Ramsey a écrit :
 On Sat Aug 17 12:22 -0700, Ben Reser wrote:
  My guess is that msec actually removed the suid group flag.  Are the
  files still on your system?  No matter what msec probably ought to be
  clarified...

 Could we please have real msec documentation for 9.0?  At least
 man-pages describing the various configuration options and the formats
 of the configuration files (or, barring that, config files with
 comments, much like apache).

I found the mseclib man page, which describe this and used it to create a 
sample /etc/security/msec.local file.

I attach it as a proposal.

 msec is one of the critical parts of a Mandrake system, especially since
 it performs system altering maintenance.  To leave a user-space utility
 of its importance undocumented is unforgivable, imho.

It was not undocumented, just a little hard to find.

CU
CPHIL

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# DESCRIPTION
#mseclib  is  a  python  library to access the function used by the msec
#program. This functions can be used  in  /etc/security/msec/level.local
#to override the behaviour of the msec program or in standalone scripts.
#The first argument of the functions takes a value of 1 or 0 or  -1  (or
#yes/no/ignore) except when specified otherwise.

# IMPORTANT NOTE : Values showed in this file DO NOT reflect default values 
# of your system as these values are controlled by your msec level.
# Value proposed are just a guess of what you may want by editing this file.

from mseclib import *

#Accept/Refuse bogus IPv4 error messages.
#   accept_bogus_error_responses('no')

# Accept/Refuse broadcasted icmp echo.
#   accept_broadcasted_icmp_echo('no')

# Accept/Refuse icmp echo.
#accept_icmp_echo('no')

#Allow/Forbid autologin.
#allow_autologin('no')

#If arg = ALL allow /etc/issue and /etc/issue.net to exist. If arg =
#NONE no issues are allowed else only /etc/issue is allowed.
#allow_issues('ALL')

#Allow/Forbid reboot by the console user.
#allow_reboot('no')

#Allow/Forbid remote root login.
#allow_remote_root_login('no')

#Allow/Forbid direct root login.
#allow_root_login('yes')

#Allow/Forbid the list of users on the system  on  display  managers
#(kdm and gdm).
#allow_user_list('no')

#Allow/Forbid X connections. First arg specifies what is done on the
#client side: ALL (all connections are allowed), LOCAL  (only  local
#connection) and NONE (no connection).
#second argument is listen_tcp
#allow_x_connections(local, None)

#he argument specifies if clients are authorized to connect to the X
#server on the tcp port 6000 or not.
#allow_xserver_to_listen('yes')

#Authorize   all   services   controlled   by   tcp_wrappers(see
#hosts.deny(5))  if  arg  =  ALL. Only local ones if arg = LOCAL and
#none if arg =  NONE.  To  authorize  the  services  you  need,  use
#/etc/hosts.allow (see hosts.allow(5)).
#authorize_services(local)

#If  SERVER_LEVEL  (or  SECURE_LEVEL if absent) is greater than 3 in
#/etc/security/msec/security.conf, creates  the  symlink  /etc/secu-
#rity/msec/servertopointto/etc/secu-
#rity/msec/server.SERVER_LEVEL. The  /etc/security/msec/server  is
#used by chkconfig --add to decide to add a service if it is present
#in the file during the installation of packages.
#create_server_link('yes')

#Enable/Disable crontab and at  for  users.  Put  allowed  users  in
#/etc/cron.allow and /etc/at.allow (see man at(1) and crontab(1)).
#enable_at_crontab('yes')

#Enable/Disable syslog reports to console 12. expr is the expression
#describing what to log (see syslog.conf(5) for  more  details)  and
#dev the device to report the log.
#enable_console_log(arg, expr='*.*', dev='tty12')
#enable_console_log('yes', '*.*','tty12')

#Enable/Disable  name  resolution  spoofing  protection.  If alert is
#true, also reports to syslog.
#enable_dns_spoofing_protection(arg, alert=1)
#enable_dns_spoofing_protection('yes', 1)

#Enable/Disable libsafe if libsafe is found on the system.
#enable_libsafe('yes')


Re: [Cooker] Accessrights on /home/... reset at each systemstart

2002-08-16 Thread Philippe Coulonges

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Le Vendredi 16 Août 2002 18:50, Aurélien Bompard a écrit :
 Msec is guilty ! I've had the same probleme configuring samba.
 The access rights are reset every hour.
 edit /usr/share/msec/perm.security_level and comment out the line which
 begins with /home/*

And don't upgrade msec, for it may not respect you choices.

CU
CPHIL
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Re: [Cooker] Mandrake and Winmodems

2002-08-09 Thread Philippe Coulonges

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Le Vendredi 09 Août 2002 00:42, Brook Humphrey a écrit :
 On Thursday 08 August 2002 03:45 pm, Igor Izyumin wrote:
  As I said previously, you can't always expect open-source drivers, just
  like you can't expect every program to be free/open source.  Drivers cost
  money to develop, and open-sourcing them is not always an option.

 Again complain about this to the companies. When was the last time windows
 included nvidia drivers. They include a generic frame buffer driver and if
 you want the other you have to install it. Wow mandrake does you one better
 if you buy the product they even include the drivers for you. They are
 already one step ahead of microsoft.

If you are a hardware vendor, you may fear open-sourcing may reveal
  important things about how your hardware operates that competitors
  could copy, thus gaining an unfair competitive advantage.  Back in the
  days of three- to five-year product cycles this was a valid argument.
  Today, the time your competitors' engineers would need to spend
  copying and understanding the copy is a substantial portion of the
  product cycle, time they are not spending innovating or
  differentiating their own product. Plagiarism is a trap you want your
  competitors to fall into.
-- Eric Raymond.
http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/writings/magic-cauldron/magic-cauldron.html

CU
CPHIL

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Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake Version1

2002-08-04 Thread Philippe Coulonges

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Le Dimanche 04 Août 2002 13:59, Michael Braun a écrit :

 is someone there, who could give me a ftp/http site where I could
 download the old rpmdrake version. I'd installed the new rpmdrake 2
 and I thought it is a big regress. The new version does not have the
 features I'd love in version 1.

I'll give it a try a little longer, but I'm not convinced yet.

On the downside :
- - It does not stay unmaximized when you ask it to ?
- - Messages are unclear (installation failed).
- - splashing windows are annoying, especially given the first 2 remarks
- - it quits without letting you the chance to install more packages.

CU
CPHIL

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[Cooker] loki games broken

2002-08-04 Thread Philippe Coulonges

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I know they are not part of the distro, but I and others that paid for these 
games sure will want to keep them alive. And as we can't expect support from 
Loki...

Here, Alpha Centauri and Heroes 3 are broken.
I don't know since when as I don't play much, but I think it's related to the 
glibc.

Here is what is reported by Alpha Centauri

[cphil@betti src]$ smacpack 

BUG! (Segmentation Fault)  Going down hard...
Sid Meier Planetary Pack 6.0 Linux
Built with glibc-2.1
Stack dump:
{
[0x80d585d]
[0xc0de]
[0x813494e]
[0x8112094]
[0x8111f23]
[0x810be8d]
[0x810c00e]
[0x8103c0d]
[0x80fb629]
[0x80fb708]
[0x806b19b]
[0x80d21de]
[0x81a122d]
[0x8048111]
}
Please send a full bug report,
along with the contents of autosave to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Heroes III is less locace

[cphil@betti src]$ heroes3 

BUG! (Segmentation Fault)  Going down hard...

That's something that could prevent me from upgrading some machines.

CU
CPHIL

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Re: [Cooker] basesystem should not require vim

2002-08-03 Thread Philippe Coulonges

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Le Samedi 03 Août 2002 23:11, Igor Izyumin a écrit :
 On Saturday 03 August 2002 12:33 pm, huug wrote:

  That's not the issue. There needs to be a small editor in /bin for
  emergency repairs, and newbees are more likely to cause
  such.

This post has a wrong title. It should be called 
Newbies should not have access to root password
This way, they will not mess with their system, and will not need any 
baby-sitter editor in /bin.

  Besides, old hacks surely can put their vi|emacs there
  themselfs: that's not something a distro maker has to do for them.

You clearly don't understand.
If our newbie with root password has crashed his distro in a way he can't load 
/usr I'm one of the guys he will call to clear the mess. If he took a Unix 
course somewhere he certainly had learn about vi (I do learn it when I give 
formations). If he doesn't know this, I prefer to let him without any mean to 
do more damages.

Even Emacs gurus know that vi is THE editor you can always expect on any Unix.
Sometimes you get only tiny, sometimes vim. You curse tiny, but you can bring 
back your system with it. Any system.

 How about both?

Scalable man says basesystem is too big already, get grub out.

  Is there really not enough room for another small editor? 

Script it in on your systems. You'll have it for life. No three months 
reinstall here.

 I completely agree with you: Mandrake is a newbie-oriented distributions

No, Mandrake is general-oriented distribution, newbies included.

 and very few newbies know how to use VI.

Ask for a locale of the vim tutorial or submit it.

  It looks like the author of the
 rant never had to help someone fix their lilo.conf or do some repair over
 the phone.  Try explaining how to use VI to a newbie...

Before or after he learned the names of the keys ?

  Hell, I've been
 using Linux for 3-something years now and the only editor I know how to use
 is Pico.  I can make some emergency repairs with VI, but it really ticks me
 off.

Think to script.

CU
CPHIL

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Re: [Cooker] mpich and povray-pvm

2002-08-02 Thread Philippe Coulonges

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Le Jeudi 01 Août 2002 03:34, Murray J. Root a écrit :
 On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:00:22 +0200

 Philippe Coulonges [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Why ? The licence restricts the commercial redistribution of povray
  without prior consent from the authors, it doesn't says Mandrake has not
  asked and obtained this consent.
 
  Does it ?

 That's not the violation - it explicitly disallows putting it on a download
 site if the newest version is not also on the same site, in the same
 directory.

 3.5 is not on the mirrors.

Glad to hear it will be there for the release.

CU
CPHIL
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[Cooker] mpich and povray-pvm

2002-07-31 Thread Philippe Coulonges

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Users mpi and pvm added by these packages don't have any password, causing 
msec to complain.

CU
CPHIL

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Re: [Cooker] mpich and povray-pvm

2002-07-31 Thread Philippe Coulonges

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Le Mercredi 31 Juillet 2002 08:48, Murray J. Root a écrit :
 On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 08:25:20 +0200

 Philippe Coulonges [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Users mpi and pvm added by these packages don't have any password,
  causing msec to complain.

 povray shouldn't be there anyway - it violates the povray license

Why ? The licence restricts the commercial redistribution of povray without 
prior consent from the authors, it doesn't says Mandrake has not asked and 
obtained this consent.

Does it ?

CU
CPHIL

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[Cooker] Cheers

2002-07-28 Thread Philippe Coulonges

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Just look in there, guys.

http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS3153607016.html

CU
CPHIL

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Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake issues...

2002-07-25 Thread Philippe Coulonges

Le Jeudi 25 Juillet 2002 11:52, Murray J. Root a écrit :
 On 25 Jul 2002 11:16:12 +0200 Guillaume Cottenceau [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  Philippe Coulonges [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ok then how do we fix it besides manually installing with urpmi.
  
   Personnally, I copied the content of /var/cache in /usr/local/cache,
   then destroyed /var/cache and linked to the new dir.
 
  Hmm, the problem is where are we supposed to copy the temporary
  RPM's when we download them. We believed /var/cache is the
  correct place, and if it is, probably the problem is that your
  configuration has a too small partition for /var. We could also
  download to something besides /tmp or even /usr, but I'm not sure
  it's clean at all..

 It isn't a space issue!
 I already proved that. Look elsewhere.

You're right. It seems something happened that made it worse.

My /var was calibrated before I got ADSL and the capability to follow cooker 
development, I corrected that the way I could.

Anyway, checking the space a priori could help.

CU
CPHIL

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Si une experience marche,
c'est que vous utilisez un mauvais equipement...





Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake issues...

2002-07-25 Thread Philippe Coulonges

Le Jeudi 25 Juillet 2002 11:13, Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit :
 Philippe Coulonges [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  You will have to install the packages manually with urpmi.
  Personnaly, I really would like at least a clear message when /var is
  saturated.

 I'm not sure I understand the origin of that bug, since urpmi
 also download all requested distant packages to
 /var/cache/urpmi before installing them, as grpmi and rpmdrake
 should currently also be doing.

You can have the same problem with urpmi (I had it once with --auto-select 
before realizing the saturation caused it). But once the problem arose, only 
rpmdrake is deadlocked. You can still upgrade packages one by one with urpmi, 
but not with rpmdrake.

CU
CPHIL

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Re: [Cooker] msec requests for enhancement

2002-07-25 Thread Philippe Coulonges

Le Jeudi 25 Juillet 2002 22:09, Johan Ferner a écrit :
 Hi,

 Enhancement requests for msec:

 1. It would be nice if msec defaulted to only check local filesystems.
 Running mandrake 8.2, I've had msec generating quite a lot of network
 traffic and since I use root_squash it really is totally useless.

 2. I would like to set an upper limit on the permissions. If /home/foo
 is 700, I don't expect a security related program to go changing this to
 755 (or whatever). So, I'd like to be able to set a 755 upper limit on
 the permissions.

By the way, what about ignoring world writable files in /var and /tmp, 
specially if these directories are mounted on separate partitions.

At least up to level 3.

CU
CPHIL

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[Cooker] KAdressbook

2002-07-24 Thread Philippe Coulonges


All the fields are stacked to the left.
You can resize them, but it comes back the next time you launch it.

CU
CPHIL
-- 
Le vent siffle dans la rue du quai.





Re: [Cooker] Feature request...

2002-07-24 Thread Philippe Coulonges

Le Mercredi 24 Juillet 2002 12:50, Zdenek Mazanec a écrit :
   Is it possible to,allow the user to save and load the package selection
   using a device other than the floppy drive?  I don't have a floppy
   drive,  but I do have an atapi zip drive that could work just as well.
 
  that could be done... what other device people would like to save
  package lists?

 Jazz, hdd partition, USB class storage in dream situation. 

e-mail ?

CU
CPHIL

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Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake issues...

2002-07-24 Thread Philippe Coulonges

Le Mercredi 24 Juillet 2002 22:43, Gary Greene a écrit :
 rpmdrake is broken on my machine.

 I can get the list of available packages from the server, then whe I try to
 install the new package, it downloads the packages, and then for some
 strange reason it says that I have it already installed, even though I
 don't. This goes for updates as well as new packages.

It seems you had the same problem I did, and saturated your /var partition by 
asking too many RPMs at the same time.

We discussed it some time ago, but it seems nobody considers this a bug.

You will have to install the packages manually with urpmi.
Personnaly, I really would like at least a clear message when /var is 
saturated.

CU
CPHIL

-- 
Là où l'on brûle des livres, on finira par brûler des hommes.
-- Heinrich Heine ( 1797-1856 )





Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake issues...

2002-07-24 Thread Philippe Coulonges

Le Jeudi 25 Juillet 2002 00:52, Mike Graham a écrit :
 On Wednesday 24 July 2002 06:33 pm, Philippe Coulonges wrote:
  Le Mercredi 24 Juillet 2002 22:43, Gary Greene a écrit :
   rpmdrake is broken on my machine.
  
   I can get the list of available packages from the server, then whe I
   try to install the new package, it downloads the packages, and then for
   some strange reason it says that I have it already installed, even
   though I don't. This goes for updates as well as new packages.
 
  It seems you had the same problem I did, and saturated your /var
  partition by asking too many RPMs at the same time.
 
  We discussed it some time ago, but it seems nobody considers this a bug.
 
  You will have to install the packages manually with urpmi.
  Personnaly, I really would like at least a clear message when /var is
  saturated.

 Ok then how do we fix it besides manually installing with urpmi. 

Personnally, I copied the content of /var/cache in /usr/local/cache, then 
destroyed /var/cache and linked to the new dir.

Eventually, it works because I have plenty of space on /usr/local.

 How do we fix rpmdrake to work again.

Once the faulty packages are installed, rpmdrake will work again.

CU
CPHIL

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car chaque homme porte la forme entiere de l'humaine condition.
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[Cooker] mime types in konqueror

2002-07-23 Thread Philippe Coulonges


For some mime type (ogg by example), I'm not satisfied with the default 
application, so I change it to launch my favorite one (ogg123) on a click.

Is it a problem for someone ? For I have to change it again and again with 
each build.

Why can't it be kept ?

CU
CPHIL
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Mais les fênetres froncent,
leurs corniches de bronze,
quand elles voient les ronces
envahir leur lumière.
-- Jacques Brel les fenêtres





[Cooker] Report of minor things (gnome2/gkrellm)

2002-07-19 Thread Philippe Coulonges

Le Vendredi 19 Juillet 2002 04:14, Ben Reser a écrit :

 I'd rather not have a
 repeat of the last time with known bugs not getting fixed.  As we get
 closer I'd like to start being a little more critical (i.e. report more
 minor things).

the GKrellM Gnome plugin option Don't put on the task list (or bar) has no 
effect with Gnome2

CU
CPHIL
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Get lost.
-- Rest of my life





[HS] Re: [Cooker] Guess we have to yank all JPEG support now

2002-07-18 Thread Philippe Coulonges

Le Jeudi 18 Juillet 2002 23:11, Brad Felmey a écrit :
 No GIF, no dvd, no divx, no avi, no truetype, now no jpeg?

 Time for MdkSoft to reorganize in Sealand, 

Not Yet, software patents are still not recognized in Europe.

But it's clearly time to discuss that matter with our political 
representation.

And if someone on this list forgot to sign the EuroLinux petition, that's a 
second chance.
http://petition.eurolinux.org/

CU
CPHIL
-- 
Il est difficile d'attraper un chat noir dans une piece sombre.
Surtout lorsqu'il n'y est pas.
-- Proverbe chinois





Re: [Cooker] braille display driver

2002-07-17 Thread Philippe Coulonges

Le Jeudi 18 Juillet 2002 02:54, Todd Lyons a écrit :
 Florent BERANGER wrote on Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 12:41:15PM +0200 :
  http://mielke.cc/brltty/
 
  rpm and src.rpm are availables on download page.
  I'll try to make a Mdk package.

 I just installed emacspeak for a blind guy.  Would anybody be interested
 in seeing this in an rpm?  I also applied the speakup patches to the
 kernel, but it's not tested yet, so I don't yet know if it works
 properly.  I should know more in a couple of hours or days.

Yes, I'm working with a group of blind ßtesters of accessibility products.
They are looking for a TTS in french, which doesn't exists for Linux, not even 
as a proprietary software since ViaVoice is no longer supported.

They sensibilized RMS as he came in Bordeaux at the RMLL, and he will try to 
get some guy to work actively on emacspeak internationalization.

having some rpm sure should be a +.

Having the brltty activable as part of the install process could also help.

CU
CPHIL

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Processing Machine parce qu'au Moyen Âge 
Dieu était le grand Ordinateur, celui qui mettait de l'ordre dans le monde.
On peut s'interroger sur le bien-fondé d'une telle traduction.





Re: [Cooker] braille display driver

2002-07-17 Thread Philippe Coulonges

Le Jeudi 18 Juillet 2002 07:07, Todd Lyons a écrit :
 Philippe Coulonges wrote on Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 06:49:39AM +0200 :

  Having the brltty activable as part of the install process could also
  help.

 Not familiar with that one.  I don't have the hardware to do any of this
 testing (this guy was using the DecTalk synthesizer), but it certainly
 wouldn't hurt to look at the docs.  You got a URL?

brltty documentation
http://dave.mielke.cc/brltty/documentation.html

Here is a mini distribution with braille integrated at start
http://www.brlspeak.net/

How we have integrated brltty support in a custom tomsrtbt distribution.
http://www.culte.org/projets/biglux/marco/bigletom_en.shtml
It was an easy task as we just wanted a dedicated floppy.

Integrating brltty is essentially a choice of keyboard on a special device, 
the difficult part beeing that that choice must be easy for a blind person 
which by definition does have the help of his braille keyboard at that time.

We have access to a VisioBraille tablet for tests.
And are willing to help.

CU
CPHIL

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son aveu d'impuissance à tuer la liberté d'un homme qui va au cinéma,
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jusqu'à ce que mort s'ensuive.
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Re: [Cooker] braille display driver

2002-07-17 Thread Philippe Coulonges

Le Jeudi 18 Juillet 2002 07:42, Philippe Coulonges a écrit :

Small corrections :

 Integrating brltty is essentially a choice of keyboard on a special device,
 the difficult part beeing that that choice must be easy for a blind person

s/easy/possible/

 which by definition does have the help of his braille keyboard at that
   not
 time.

CU
CPHIL

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Pourtant, il devrait exister un logiciel de compta,
puisque Linux, c'est si bien que ça...
-- Thierry Boudet Trollons hardiement





Re: [Cooker] urpmq or rpmdrake bug (was urpmi or rpmdrake)

2002-07-04 Thread Philippe Coulonges

Le Jeudi 27 Juin 2002 22:11, Philippe Coulonges a écrit :

 Finally, I think the beginning of my problem starts with urpmq

I found out how to produce my bad behavior.
It comes after I try to update too many packages at the same time, saturating 
my (small) /var with cached packages.

All these packages are then uninstallable with rpmdrake, but updates ok with 
urpmi.

CU
CPHIL

-- 
There is hopeful symbolism in the fact that flags do not wave in a
vacuum.
-- Arthur C. Clarke





Re: [Cooker] urpmi request

2002-07-03 Thread Philippe Coulonges

Le Mercredi 03 Juillet 2002 13:18, Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit :

 New rpmdrake will change a lot, will be more easy, but the
 drawback is that some existing features will disappear, such as
 sorting by source and size.

Argghh !
Is it temporary ? Is it for performance reasons ?
Beside its destination for end-users which can't use a terminal, sorting and 
searching easily is certainly the most useful feature in rpmdrake.

CU
CPHIL

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contact avec nous. 
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Re: [Cooker] RPMdrake and/or urpmi bug

2002-06-27 Thread Philippe Coulonges

Le Jeudi 27 Juin 2002 07:32, Borsenkow Andrej a écrit :
  I had a crash at some time.
 
  Since then, I have installed packages that appears as not installed.

 And what after rpm --rebuilddb?

 [...]
  Rebuilding the rpm db doesn't help.

I persist.

CU
CPHIL

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Re: [Cooker] RPMdrake and/or urpmi bug

2002-06-27 Thread Philippe Coulonges

Le Jeudi 27 Juin 2002 09:24, Borsenkow Andrej a écrit :
  Le Jeudi 27 Juin 2002 07:32, Borsenkow Andrej a écrit :
I had a crash at some time.
   
Since then, I have installed packages that appears as not
 installed.

   And what after rpm --rebuilddb?
  
   [...]
  
Rebuilding the rpm db doesn't help.
 
  I persist.

 rpmdrake relies on urpmq, specifically it does urpmq -m --headers
 packages to install ...

 could you please try on command line

 urpmq -m -r packages ...

It reports the right versions of the packages (i.e. the new ones).

 for the same set of packages you select in rpmdrake and check if urpmi
 reports already installed packages.

No, it does install the packages.
After that, the packages no more appears as installable in RPMdrake.
They do not reappear after reloading the list.

So urpmi don't see the same versions as urpmq.
RPMdrake list does not correspond to urpmq results.
Seems strange to me.

On the bright side, I know how to get rid of my extra packages.

CU
CPHIL
 
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Re: [Cooker] RPMdrake and/or urpmi bug

2002-06-27 Thread Philippe Coulonges

Le Jeudi 27 Juin 2002 12:09, François Pons a écrit :
 Philippe Coulonges [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   for the same set of packages you select in rpmdrake and check if urpmi
   reports already installed packages.
 
  No, it does install the packages.
  After that, the packages no more appears as installable in RPMdrake.
  They do not reappear after reloading the list.
 
  So urpmi don't see the same versions as urpmq.

 So urpmi doesn't work or urpmi work ? This is not clear from your response.

I'll try to clarify.

lets say we have versions A and B of a package. A is the old version, B the 
new one.

urpmq replies that B version is installed

urpmi install B version as if A was installed and never complains

rpmdrake indicates A version is installed, download the package, then 
discovers that it is already installed.

Pertaining to urpmi, It clearly doesn't see that the package was installed, 
but I can't say it doesn't work, as it corrects my buggy list.

On the other hand, rpmdrake does not correct the list. After discovering that 
the package is installed, that package disappears from the upgradable 
packages list, but it reappears at the next launch or a list update.

 If problem is really on urpmi, can you send me a compressed archive of
 --bug dir output given by urpmi.

I just don't understand what this means.

 Do you have the latest version of rpmdrake/urpmi ? (of cooker).

Yes. The entire host is up to date with cooker, except BasiliskII-jit 
downgraded to 0.9.1.

CU
CPHIL

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Re: [Cooker] RPMdrake and/or urpmi bug

2002-06-27 Thread Philippe Coulonges

Le Jeudi 27 Juin 2002 12:57, Borsenkow Andrej a écrit :

 urpmq NEVER reports installed packages. It ALWAYS reports available
 packages.

My mistake.

I know see it more clearly.

I just checked, and in fact, my packages are not installed.

Example :
$rpm -q gedit
gedit-1.199.0-1mdk
$urpmq -m -r gedit
gedit-2.0.0-1mdk
$gedit --version
Gnome gedit 1.199.0

All is right.
rpm, urpmq and urpmi work.

rpmdrake downloads, tells the package is already install (that's what's wrong) 
and don't install.

My package stays in the old version, which is why it reappears the next time.

I have a score of packages behaving like that.

CU
CPHIL

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[Cooker] urpmq or rpmdrake bug (was urpmi or rpmdrake)

2002-06-27 Thread Philippe Coulonges

Finally, I think the beginning of my problem starts with urpmq
At some point, I got

urpmq --wget -m --headers --media 'mdk82-1,mdk82-2,mdk82-3,ftp.ciril.fr,update 
8.2 clubint,plf,contrib' gedit  /root/tmp/rpminst_tmp_C8Nxbp

   = `/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/.listing'
Résolution de ftp.ciril.fr... complété.
Connexion vers ftp.ciril.fr[193.50.27.70]:21...connecté.
Session débutant sous anonymous...Session établie!
== SYST ... complété.== PWD ... complété.
== TYPE I ... complété.  == CWD 
/pub/linux/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS ... complété.
== PASV ... complété.== LIST ... complété.

[=   ] 190,673   58.43K/s 

19:44:54 (58.43 KB/s) - `/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/.listing' sauvegardé [190673]

`/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/.listing' détruit.
--19:44:54--  
ftp://ftp.ciril.fr/pub/linux/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/gedit-2.0.0-1mdk.i586.rpm
   = `/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/gedit-2.0.0-1mdk.i586.rpm'
== CWD n'est pas requis.
== PASV ... complété.== RETR gedit-2.0.0-1mdk.i586.rpm ... complété.
Longueur: 655,122

100%[=] 655,122   62.12K/sETA 
00:00

19:45:05 (62.12 KB/s) - `/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/gedit-2.0.0-1mdk.i586.rpm' 
sauvegardé [655122]

rpm2header 
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/gedit-2.0.0-1mdk.i586.rpm/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/gedit-2.0.0-1mdk.i586.rpm
--^

Here is the bug.
I tried to find the origin in sources, but I don't know much about perl.

After that, rpmdrake --verbose (I found the option in the source) indicates 

src/do_install.cpp(86) : Executing /usr/sbin/urpmi --wget --X --WID=104857695 
--media 'mdk82-1,mdk82-2,mdk82-3,ftp.ciril.fr,update 8.2 clubint,plf,contrib' 
gedit-0.9.6-10mdk 

which seems to indicate that it stepped back to the old version at some point 
and explain the already installed message.

CU
CPHIL

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[Cooker] RPMdrake and/or urpmi bug

2002-06-26 Thread Philippe Coulonges


I had a crash at some time.

Since then, I have installed packages that appears as not installed.
If I want to install them, they pollute my (and your) bandwidth for finally 
telling me that they are already installed.

Every time I refresh the list, they reappear.
Rebuilding the rpm db doesn't help.

THIS SHOULD NOT HAPPEN says the console. But it does.
Is it so difficult to add already installed packages to an installed list.

Ask me if you need more data, I'm sure willing to help on this one.

CU
CPHIL

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(8) Pedestrians are

(a) irrelevant.
(b) communists.
(c) a nuisance.
(d) difficult to clean off the front grille.

The correct answer is (a).  Pedestrians are not in cars, so they are
totally irrelevant to driving; you should ignore them completely.





Re: [Cooker] feature request for rpmdrake... (another one)

2002-06-13 Thread Philippe Coulonges

Le Jeudi 13 Juin 2002 21:54, Gary Greene a écrit :
 Small request:

 could you please add a graphical way to add stuff to our skip list? I know
 it's a small thing but I think that there are some poeple that install and
 administrate mandrake boxen that use the graphical enviroment much nore so
 than cli to do updates.

And could it be possible that rpmdrake remembers which sources you are used to 
refresh.

CU
CPHIL

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[Cooker] diskdrake proposition

2002-06-11 Thread Philippe Coulonges


/tmp is not a default option for a mount point in diskdrake.

It could be a good idea to propose it.
I personnally feel safer with a noexec /tmp.

CU
CPHIL

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Re: [Cooker] Mounting /usr read-only

2002-05-30 Thread Philippe Coulonges

Le Jeudi 30 Mai 2002 11:20, Borsenkow Andrej a écrit :
  Install from ISO images is currently incomplete. This becomes an issue
  first when you can use all three images during installation. Until

 then

  you must mount other images manually to install extra packages anyway.

 BTW what is wrong with entering ISO images in /etc/fstab and using
 file:// sources in urpmi?

I do not need the images permanently, in fact I need them only in rpmdrake.
I don't believe having 3 loopback process at any time is a good idea.

CU
CPHIL

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la salle.





Re: [Cooker] My suggestions for Mandrake 9.0

2002-05-29 Thread Philippe Coulonges

Le Jeudi 30 Mai 2002 03:18, Leon Brooks a écrit :
 On Thursday 30 May 2002 08:01, Timothy R. Butler wrote:

  5.) What about a QT/KDE-based MCC? Since Mandrake has always been very
  pro-KDE, and even was founded to bring KDE to RedHat, what about making
  Mandrake Control Center QT-ized?

Good troll. It certainly has a future. I use gnome.

  I noticed YaST2 now has a thingy that will grab sound
  fonts off the the Creative Labs SB Live! installation CD. This is a nice,
  user friendly touch...

 Hmmm... and how legal would it be to scrape TTFs out of MS-Windows or
 MS-Office CDs?

I think he was talking of taking it from the CD you got with the hardware. 
You know, the one that permits us to finance Microsoft's users.

CU
CPHIL

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[Cooker] Mounting /usr read-only

2002-05-29 Thread Philippe Coulonges


I would like to have /usr mounted as read-only.
To achieve that, I have to ajust some things in the distro at every update.
Could it be fixed, has I think variable files does not have their place there.

This include kscd's /usr/share/apps/kscd/cddb/...
Maelstrom and some other games scores files.

I also use rpmdrake to update, and I keep images from the last CDs on my HD. I 
use à script that remount /usr rw, then mount my images loopback, launch 
rpmdrake and does it the other way when finished.

1) Could the /usr ro option be included in some way (such as testing itand 
automating remount) in rpmdrake or rpm ? that would be nice, as I don't see 
any other tool that need write access to /usr

2) Could the loopback option be integrated in sources possibilities in 
rpmdrake ?

3) Sometimes, I think some process are not truly finished when rpmdrake 
congratulates you for installing the packages. As a result, /usr is still in 
use and if you stop the application quickly, remounting of /usr ro is not 
possible.

CU
CPHIL

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