[Cooker] rpmdrake and df discrepancy
Just noticed by chance that rpmdrake displays a significantly different amount of free diskspace from df. / has 147 MB free (according to df) and 282 MB (according to rpmdrake). Note that my only partitions are / and /home (which has a lot of free space). Any ideas? Best, Sascha Noyes
Re: [Cooker] Mescalero
On Tuesday 21 October 2003 02:20 pm, Diego Iastrubni wrote: are you asking why does mandrake do not let me steal this album? lol Please look up the word steal in the dictionary. Best, Sascha Noyes
Re: [Cooker] Menudrake eats mdk menu?
On Thursday 02 October 2003 03:15 pm, Jamey Campbell wrote: Hi, Running freshly updated cooker, attempted to add two programs to the menu. Upon saving changes and updating menu, the Mandrake menu fails to appear. The first few entries (up to what to do.) Tried restarting X, and rebooting, to no avail. I have encountered the exact same problem, and am now running the kde menu. Is there any more info I can provide? Are others seeing this? Best, Sascha Noyes
Re: [Cooker] TAKE MY EMAIL OFF THIS DAMN LIST FOR THE LAST TIME!
On Monday 29 September 2003 07:09 pm, Jason M. Randle wrote: Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Ignorant minds discuss people. what is ignorance? well, its lack of willingness to learn or be corrected You must admit that the sig is somewhat amusing in this email. Sascha
[Cooker] koffice applications fail to start
This is on a new install of latest cooker. The following error message is given when running eg. kword: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mih]$ kword koffice (lib kofficecore): ERROR: Couldn't find the native MimeType in kword's desktop file. Check your installation ! Is anyone else experiencing this? Best, Sascha Noyes
[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] monster-masher-1.2-1mdk
On Sunday 21 September 2003 04:30 pm, Abel Cheung wrote: [Contrib-RPM] -=-=-=- Name: monster-masher Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 1.2 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk Build Date: Sun Sep 21 22:02:22 2003 Install Date: (not installed) Build Host: klama.mandrake.org Group : Games/Other Source RPM: (none) Size: 581114 License: GPL Signature : (none) Packager: Abel Cheung [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL : http://www.cs.auc.dk/~olau/monster-masher/ Summary : Clean caves by mashing monsters with stone Description : Monster Masher is an action game for the GNOME desktop environment. The basic idea is that you, as levitation worker gnome, has to clean the caves for monsters that want to roll over you. You do the cleaning by mashing the monsters with stone blocks. Wow, the return of beasts. Cool... Sascha Noyes
Re: [Cooker] Installing from cooker procedure
On Monday 08 September 2003 06:02 pm, Victor Roetman wrote: The problem I have now is that there was an error installing the package etcskel-1.63-15mdk depslist.ordered calls for both: etcskel-1.63-15mdk.noarch 4259 0 3 4 5 6 7 8 etcskel-1.63-15mdk.src 10842 but neither exist in RPMS. There seems to be the src package in SRPMS, but no binary package. I have the same problem at the moment. I don't think that etcskel-1.63-15mdk is on the mirrors yet. Sascha
Re: [Cooker] Re: Mandrake 9.1 released before kernel 2.4.21 final?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 19 March 2003 09:49, w9ya wrote: On Wednesday 19 March 2003 07:55 am, Thierry Vignaud wrote: John Southern [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BuyLinuxNow are saying that 9.1 is released. http://www.buylinuxnow.co.uk/mandrake_9.1.htm Are they early or am I late? it has been released but not yet announced. O.k. - So let's say I announce a release several days before it really is released, then it is released, then it is available and then it can be shipped and about three weeks to a month lapse before I get it. All this PROVIDED that Mandrake really did release it just a few days after I announced it, and not a couple of weeks later. The truth is this company posted that it was released on their website prior to it actually being released on the hope and.or desire that it would be released on some time table that wouldn't cause them or their customers any grief. In some places this is illegal. I know the credit card companies take a dim view of such business practices. Especially when a company does not clearly state an expected release date and instead says that it has been released. This firm, btw, uses paypal and credit cards. Bob Finch I'm not sure exactly what you are getting at. Mandrake store sells pre-orders. (Notice the pre). A mandrake developer saying to the testers on the cooker mailing list that 9.1 is out is not an official announcement. There has been some controversy during the 9.0 pre-order process because of the credit cards being billed a long time before the product is shipped. The official announcement of the pre-order of 9.1 on Mandrakeclub has a warning that credit cards will be billed beforehand. This warning should be added under the important information heading for the pre-orders on mandrakestore. Sascha Noyes - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+eIbVgzJdfX+cTW8RArG5AJ9VkR/ZyMK7VGCg2lKGf5quQCjhiACfWRUV LNuaDNOgAF2Nl+cWiDDZrzs= =ta39 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] 9.1 final
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 18 March 2003 18:02, Frederic Lepied wrote: 9.1 is gone to production. In the name of MandrakeSoft engineering team, I would like to thank all the cookers for the great help you provided to build this release. Thank you very much ! Thanks everyone. Let me just say that this beta testing experience was really great with Bugzilla being formally used and all. Sascha Noyes - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+d7GUgzJdfX+cTW8RAlruAJsFAHgpF7oAIQ/h07ToyLBXGV+hXQCeNj6H /qmOKSg15O4fgxleVM98gPQ= =xVHZ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] MCC Embedded mode - Console doesn't work
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 14 March 2003 14:18, Robert Fox wrote: drakconf-9.1-10mdk When I click on System - Open a Console - A console opens but not embedded. Thx, R.Fox I can confirm this with drakconf-9.1-11, probably too late for fixing though. Rather have a console that opens outside (small bug) than messing something else up. Sascha Noyes - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+c27VgzJdfX+cTW8RAtgVAJ9qWFMDWoL+VmRmZTdLagQIF35MsgCdEJmQ snE/MrezNKzuNnOzdxBQUu0= =Fb6y -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Forget war and boicots and things about when 9.1 will be downloadable
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 14 March 2003 15:50, Henri wrote: Francisco Alcaraz Ariza a écrit: Well, After all this discussion about war, USA against France, the names of all the Bushes family, the boicot to France products, I thin is the moment to make the great questions about Mandrake: When will be finallly avalaible the 9.1? Will have the Mandrake Club members any special server to download? When boxes will be avalaibles in Mandrake Store? Those are the reals important things in this list (of course, also bugs correction). and if we come back to the mail which lead to questions about war, french and americans ecc., we'll see the question has still no answer : will there be a kernel able to work with acpi on the presario of sascha ? Thanks Henri, I really appreciate it, but I don't think that it is a wise thing to include such changes in the kernel one or two days before release. It doesn't matter too much, as I've got a fully functional system, I just have to recompile the kernlel. BTW, when is 9.1 being release? I recall someone saying friday (today), but it's probably too late now - so Monday? Cheers, Sascha Noyes - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+cnMvgzJdfX+cTW8RAiD5AJ4rWjHR+UClxjA/m5/gm4z66dhPjACfZkrc veKTEgL/KZpsizPZ7rVuGUw= =OXCq -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] So is python going to ship in 9.1 still segfaulting?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 13 March 2003 09:33, Brian J. Murrell wrote: I reported this bug http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2456 way back on Feb. 26th but still nothing. Is 9.1 really going to ship with a segfaulting Python? That seems to me like quite a serious bug to put into a final release. You can reproduce this bug simply by entering the following 3 lines: $ python Python 2.2.2 (#2, Feb 5 2003, 10:40:08) [GCC 3.2.1 (Mandrake Linux 9.1 3.2.1-5mdk)] on linux-i386 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. from gnome.ui import GnomeRequestDialog from socket import * And you will get a segfault. I can't reproduce this bug. Sascha Noyes - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+cKJXgzJdfX+cTW8RAkw5AJ9sxXUd8PUyavWXI/ZBbvjixH9ivgCfaok2 FsH6wD4fCnG/T7KHhWqTpnE= =iNs/ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] mandrakeclub.com down
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I get this message when visiting www.mandrakeclub.com: Sorry, this site is currently overloaded. Please come later. MandrakeClub site is growing too fast, we are waiting for stronger server(s) to cope with the increase of users activity. We have already spread a load somehow by delegating the downloads to another server, but that obviously wasn't enough... More to come. So what is going to happen tomorrow on the release, is this an upgrade in anticipation of that? Best, Sascha Noyes - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+cNoCgzJdfX+cTW8RAhpQAJ4jZOD4A5rPVQViI6ySFUQERutATACfe1Dk q5M7rxrDNvaVHaYQFpsyV/A= =U/iw -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] 9.1 finishing and bugs checking
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 12 March 2003 03:55, Warly wrote: As we are likely to finish 9.1 next friday, please maintainers check your bugs in bugzilla, so that you do not miss of forget important ones, and verify and close the others. Current bugs trends: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/reports.cgi?product=-All-output=show_chartdata sets=NEW%3Adatasets=ASSIGNED%3Adatasets=NEEDINFO%3Adatasets=REOPENED%3Ad atasets=UNCONFIRMED%3Adatasets=RESOLVED%3Alinks=1banner=1 Congrats to the mandrake guys, just look at that resolved curve. I hope 9.1 becomes as liked by everyone as 8.2 is. Best, Sascha Noyes - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+b0RFgzJdfX+cTW8RAp3pAJ9uqMKCFTkBRYdaCTdSByMlaoOUngCdF835 XzUeaiMrlahdscOdp9fbJ+Q= =ICZ6 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
OT Re: [Cooker] Re: War
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You all have obviously not heard the news about french fries. In an unbelievabla act of NewSpeak (read 1984!) some US politicians officially renamed french fries to freedom fries. And remember, if you don't call them freedom fries you are unpatriotic and you shall be taken to Guantanamo bay with all those other Taliban guys. qoute Noting that French fries originated in Belgium, a French Embassy spokeswoman did not seem amused. I wonder if it's worth a comment, the spokeswoman, Nathalie Loiseau, said. Honestly. We are working these days on very, very serious issues of war and peace, life or death. We are not working on potatoes. /quote read about it here: http://news.google.com/news?hl=enq=friesbtnG=Search+News (and then click on the NYTimes report - none of the others mention the statement from france. and by using google news you can avoid the stupid NYTimes sign in crap.) - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+b0M4gzJdfX+cTW8RApFKAJ0QWt0ZQW0RxzKXOOF0dtH7gJXDFwCfYdr4 HdaKPYGzOgvaBAkchiQxMhA= =UN8G -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] APCI not working on presario 700
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 12 March 2003 20:06, Thomas Backlund wrote: Viestissä Torstai 13. Maaliskuuta 2003 01:06, Henri kirjoitti: so, that's fun to talk about Iraq, but is there any solution found for the APCI bug concerning sacha's US presario ? This is a the mdk standard kernel linux-2.4.21-0.13mdk + my changes: http://www.iki.fi/tmb/Cooker/linux-2.4.21-0.13mdk-TmB.Fix1.tar.bz2 Just unzip/untar it to / and run the included Install, and reboot... I already requested some Compaq Presario 7xx users to verify that this kernel disables the APIC on their laptops without disabling the ACPI, or atleast work with acpi=off... but so far no reply... So _please_ try this kernel and let me know boot with and without acpi=off... The idea is that it should disable the APIC on the complete Presario 7xx series until we get correct info if there is some in that series that actually works with APIC enabled... Thomas Hi Thomas Thanks for your work, it is really appreciated - and sorry for taking so long to reply. I installed your kernel modification package and everything works perfectly, I just had to add battery, processor etc. to /etc/modules (Before when I recompiled my kernel I just changed the acpi stuff from modules to hardcoded) So what did you change - did you put some sort of presario 7xx into dmi_scan.c ? I presume that this is too late to get into 9.1, oh well - too bad. Mandrake would have been the first distro to run flawlessly on 7xx. Too bad that I only knew about this apic blacklisting until a few days ago. Should I put up a small page on the Mandrake wiki asking people with presario 7xx laptops to contribute their model specifications or can we blacklist all 7xx's (looking ahead to 9.2) ? Maybe I should contribute a presario 7xx kernel RPM, I'd have to look into that. Or I could just host and market that package I downloaded from you? What are your thoughts on this (as you're evidently a whole lot more informed on this subject than I am)? Best, Sascha Noyes - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+cCbMgzJdfX+cTW8RAkFEAJ4wNeWaanPzXtUitOhcJ4DXA917sACeLsA3 gFk/RBoPFiXH9n3XEcllCJ8= =UNIw -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] APCI not working on presario 700
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 11 March 2003 03:07, Henri wrote: Thanks ! Could it be possible that mandrake provides a precompiled kernel without apic and detect at intall when the machine is a buggy one ? (Of course if only the presario 7xx has the bug, it would be stupid...) And isn't it possible to use noapic apci=on on boot instead of recompiling ? Well, unfortunately I don't know too much about kernels, but here is what I have gleaned at the moment: It seems to be possible to automatically disable APIC on certain motherboards. I found this out by checking the changelogs that the mandrake kernel developers wrote for the last two versions of the kernel: - disable local apic in more boards. I've asked which files store the information on which board gets local apic disabled, but understandably I did not get a response. I've just checked with the latest kernel, and booting still does not work with acpi enabled, which means that the presario 7xx boards do not have local apic disabled. 2. For some uncomprehensible reason it is not possible to disable APIC by appending noapic at boot time. I've just checked with the latest kernel, and booting still does not So, unfortunately, you still have to recompile your kernel. But in all of this be aware that it is exclusively Compaq's fault, and Mandrake have got limited resources so they can't compensate for every hardware manufacturers faults. I've heard that some HP engineer is collecting information on which laptops need bios fixes for when they update the bios'es'. It might be a good idea to try and track him down, I think there was a message on cooker a while ago, maybe you can search the archives. Best, Sascha Noyes Sascha Noyes a écrit: On Monday 10 March 2003 17:14, Henri wrote: on presario 700 : upgraded 9.0 to rc2 : apci does not work. i made a non-expert upgrade, and packages apci and apcid were NOT installed by default. I went to control center-lilo config and then it installed it BUT TURNING IT ON FREEZE THE PC AT BOOT ! using the non-fb entry, i can see it frozen on a the apci PCI detection Sascha's obligatory Presario 700 message: This series of laptops has got bugs in its implementation of Power Management (which is done entirely with the newer ACPI and not the old APM). This causes the machine to lock up on boot with the default kernel. It is possible to boot the default kernel with the switch acpi=off added at boot time, but then power management is not available. (So the fan will go 100% all the time, etc.). It is therefore necessary to recompile the kernel without APIC (yes: without APIC, and with ACPI (they conflict) and ACPI is what is necessary for power management) to get power management features. See the following for a detailed how-to for getting everything working: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/projects/laptop/tuxtop.html - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+bfa4gzJdfX+cTW8RAlUMAJsH9pCYM4HFFKwSAR9OmD9holwE7ACffzr8 xGtTWmsRVr1n6G15DPxTUdY= =QXRd -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] APCI not working on presario 700
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 11 March 2003 11:23, Thomas Backlund wrote: Viestissä Tiistai 11. Maaliskuuta 2003 16:46, Sascha Noyes kirjoitti: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 11 March 2003 03:07, Henri wrote: Thanks ! Could it be possible that mandrake provides a precompiled kernel without apic and detect at intall when the machine is a buggy one ? (Of course if only the presario 7xx has the bug, it would be stupid...) And isn't it possible to use noapic apci=on on boot instead of recompiling ? Well, unfortunately I don't know too much about kernels, but here is what I have gleaned at the moment: It seems to be possible to automatically disable APIC on certain motherboards. I found this out by checking the changelogs that the mandrake kernel developers wrote for the last two versions of the kernel: - disable local apic in more boards. I've asked which files store the information on which board gets local apic disabled, but understandably I did not get a response. I've just checked with the latest kernel, and booting still does not work with acpi enabled, which means that the presario 7xx boards do not have local apic disabled. take a look at arch/i386/kernel/dmi_scan.c it lists several buggy systems... We need output of dmiscan to add more buggy ones to the list Thomas Excellent, but how do I run dmiscan? Are you talking about dmi_scan.o ? How would I run that? Is dmiscan perhaps in a package I have not installed (in which)? Thanks, Sascha Noyes - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+bnX6gzJdfX+cTW8RAkztAJ49tHdk2vZKUyfkVGkMoDxQgT579QCgnWwW 8M5MOgzzzY29nWopfAtvQic= =v1Nn -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] APCI not working on presario 700
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On Tuesday 11 March 2003 16:10, Henri wrote:
Henri a écrit:
Gary Greene a écrit:
On Tuesday 11 March 2003 12:31 pm, Henri wrote:
Gary Greene a écrit:
On Tuesday 11 March 2003 3:07 am, Henri wrote:
Thanks !
Could it be possible that mandrake provides a precompiled kernel
without
apic and detect at intall when the machine is a buggy one ?
(Of course if only the presario 7xx has the bug, it would be stupid...)
This is how SuSE gets around this problem.
Am i supposed to switch my notebook to another distrib just for that ?
It is quit important for a notebook and i think that this mandrake
version was supposed to be a easier one for notebook : zeroconf,
switchprofiles...and apci is one of the main new features, so can't
there be a special kernel for the buggy bios ? PLEEEAASE !!
I believe I'd have to second that since I have a Presario 700E
notebook that
has exactly this problem. Before now I've been having to use SuSE on
it, but
if I can use Mandrake with out difficulties, I'd prefer that.
About compiling a kernel, getting the kernel-source rpm, editing the
config file and using rpm --rebuild should be ok, shouldn't it ?
While talking about the kernel, isn't there anymore the kernel-header
package ?? That means we have to download all sources just to compil an
new driver (NVIDIA for ex) ???
And isn't it possible to use noapic apci=on on boot instead of
recompiling ?
Sascha Noyes a écrit:
On Monday 10 March 2003 17:14, Henri wrote:
on presario 700 : upgraded 9.0 to rc2 : apci does not work.
i made a non-expert upgrade, and packages apci and apcid were NOT
installed by default.
I went to control center-lilo config and then it installed it BUT
TURNING IT ON FREEZE THE PC AT BOOT !
using the non-fb entry, i can see it frozen on a the apci PCI
detection
Sascha's obligatory Presario 700 message:
This series of laptops has got bugs in its implementation of Power
Management
(which is done entirely with the newer ACPI and not the old APM). This
causes
the machine to lock up on boot with the default kernel. It is possible
to boot the default kernel with the switch acpi=off added at boot
time, but
then power management is not available. (So the fan will go 100%
all the
time, etc.). It is therefore necessary to recompile the kernel without
APIC
(yes: without APIC, and with ACPI (they conflict) and ACPI is what is
necessary for power management) to get power management features.
See the following for a detailed how-to for getting everything
working:
http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/projects/laptop/tuxtop.html
I've seen the last -13mdk kernel says apic is disabled on more
motherboard - going to update from RC2 to this last kernel and tell
if that work.
GREAT ! that is now working ! at least, i see the percentage of charge,
if i'm on battery or not in kde !! Thanks to J. Quintela for this new
update !!!
Now, how to test suspend/hibernation etc modes ? it asks me for commands...
thanks to all.
Exactly what model presario do you have? Because in the latest kernel there is
an exclude for local apic set on the following Presario:
{ local_apic_kills_bios, Compaq Pressario 711EA, {
MATCH(DMI_SYS_VENDOR, Compaq),
MATCH(DMI_PRODUCT_NAME, Presario 711EA 470030-327),
MATCH(DMI_BOARD_VENDOR, Compaq),
MATCH(DMI_BOARD_NAME, 0760h),
NO_MATCH
} },
So yours would have to be a 711EA, since mine (732US) does not work. (Don't be
fooled by the Presario 700 listed just below the screen on the laptop)? Is
there some way to find this out on linux (ie. without comparing the
components on some online shop? dmiscan? but how?)
Best,
Sascha Noyes
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Re: [Cooker] APCI not working on presario 700
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 11 March 2003 12:46, Buchan Milne wrote: Henri wrote: Gary Greene a écrit: Am i supposed to switch my notebook to another distrib just for that ? It is quit important for a notebook and i think that this mandrake version was supposed to be a easier one for notebook : zeroconf, switchprofiles...and apci is one of the main new features, so can't there be a special kernel for the buggy bios ? PLEEEAASE !! Maybe Sascha can make a kernel rpm for the Compaq? I've been thinking about this ever since I got everything running. It depends though - Much more elegant would be to get a large number of these laptops listed in dmi_scan.c as Thomas Backlund suggested. But it might be too close to release now (at least if I can get the 732US (mine) in then I will be glad). Or is it perhaps possible to do a wildcard on Compaq Presario 7xx in dmi_scan.c or is that very unprofessional? As far as I know all Presario 7xx laptops have these problems and even if some of them don't (which I doubt), is there any harm in disabling local apic for them? If there are no problems there then the benefit of disabling local apic in all 7xx should outweigh the problems. And if that is not doable what FM do I look at for building a presario 7xx kernel RPM? the rpm howto ? (http://www.mandrakelinux.com/howtos/mdk-rpm/) Best, Sascha Noyes - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+bnmugzJdfX+cTW8RAk3QAKCSIGoBA0gGnWR1LWVYKRFibInSjACfTIqp 9zLL3aRdLmnbUFc2slLWvhY= =v/be -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] APCI not working on presario 700
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On Tuesday 11 March 2003 19:17, Henri wrote:
Sascha Noyes a écrit:
On Tuesday 11 March 2003 16:10, Henri wrote:
Henri a écrit:
Gary Greene a écrit:
On Tuesday 11 March 2003 12:31 pm, Henri wrote:
Gary Greene a écrit:
On Tuesday 11 March 2003 3:07 am, Henri wrote:
Thanks !
Could it be possible that mandrake provides a precompiled kernel
without
apic and detect at intall when the machine is a buggy one ?
(Of course if only the presario 7xx has the bug, it would be
stupid...)
This is how SuSE gets around this problem.
Am i supposed to switch my notebook to another distrib just for that
? It is quit important for a notebook and i think that this mandrake
version was supposed to be a easier one for notebook : zeroconf,
switchprofiles...and apci is one of the main new features, so can't
there be a special kernel for the buggy bios ? PLEEEAASE !!
I believe I'd have to second that since I have a Presario 700E
notebook that
has exactly this problem. Before now I've been having to use SuSE on
it, but
if I can use Mandrake with out difficulties, I'd prefer that.
About compiling a kernel, getting the kernel-source rpm, editing the
config file and using rpm --rebuild should be ok, shouldn't it ?
While talking about the kernel, isn't there anymore the kernel-header
package ?? That means we have to download all sources just to compil an
new driver (NVIDIA for ex) ???
And isn't it possible to use noapic apci=on on boot instead of
recompiling ?
Sascha Noyes a écrit:
On Monday 10 March 2003 17:14, Henri wrote:
on presario 700 : upgraded 9.0 to rc2 : apci does not work.
i made a non-expert upgrade, and packages apci and apcid were NOT
installed by default.
I went to control center-lilo config and then it installed it BUT
TURNING IT ON FREEZE THE PC AT BOOT !
using the non-fb entry, i can see it frozen on a the apci PCI
detection
Sascha's obligatory Presario 700 message:
This series of laptops has got bugs in its implementation of Power
Management
(which is done entirely with the newer ACPI and not the old APM).
This causes
the machine to lock up on boot with the default kernel. It is
possible to boot the default kernel with the switch acpi=off added
at boot time, but
then power management is not available. (So the fan will go 100%
all the
time, etc.). It is therefore necessary to recompile the kernel
without APIC
(yes: without APIC, and with ACPI (they conflict) and ACPI is what is
necessary for power management) to get power management features.
See the following for a detailed how-to for getting everything
working:
http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/projects/laptop/tuxtop.html
I've seen the last -13mdk kernel says apic is disabled on more
motherboard - going to update from RC2 to this last kernel and tell
if that work.
GREAT ! that is now working ! at least, i see the percentage of charge,
if i'm on battery or not in kde !! Thanks to J. Quintela for this new
update !!!
Now, how to test suspend/hibernation etc modes ? it asks me for
commands...
thanks to all.
Exactly what model presario do you have? Because in the latest kernel
there is
an exclude for local apic set on the following Presario:
{ local_apic_kills_bios, Compaq Pressario 711EA, {
MATCH(DMI_SYS_VENDOR, Compaq),
MATCH(DMI_PRODUCT_NAME, Presario 711EA 470030-327),
MATCH(DMI_BOARD_VENDOR, Compaq),
MATCH(DMI_BOARD_NAME, 0760h),
NO_MATCH
} },
So yours would have to be a 711EA, since mine (732US) does not work.
(Don't be
fooled by the Presario 700 listed just below the screen on the
laptop)? Is
there some way to find this out on linux (ie. without comparing the
components on some online shop? dmiscan? but how?)
Best,
Sascha Noyes
Right, my notebook IS a 711EA (french model with a 950Mhz Duron CPU, i
believe).
To know which model you have, just look at at the back of your notebook
!!! Perhaps dmiscan does give the info, but it seems easier to look at
the ref written on the product, doesn't it ?
I don't want to make you cry, but now my notebook power down alone too,
and get silent when he has no activity for some minutes...sorry, but i'm
so happy i can't resist to tell it ;-))) Hope the problem will get
solved for you too anyway :)
I'll take a look at dmiscan tomorrow morning, now it's too late for my
poor eyes.
little stupid question : what is the problem with disabling apic support
? I've seen it's about time CPU synchro (orsomething like that) but what
is the drawback of not enabling it ? And what is the link with acpi
Of course, I always miss the most obvious things (bottom of laptop). Thomas,
my laptop states (on the bottom forDMI_PRODUCT_NAME) Presario 732US
470033
Re: [Cooker] Unified Community Site
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 10 March 2003 12:07, Warly wrote: Austin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Okay, last time this discussion came up, bad things happened. And also, this is a bad week to bring up new ideas. But the topic is hot, so let's throw the idea around. Imagine a unified Mandrake Community Web Portal. It's got: a cooker howto an up-to-date rpm howto a todo list and project tracking personal homepages for each developer a documentation wiki forums for mini-projects a simple web address/domain name official endorsement from Mandrake, but not controlled by Mandrake interface with bugzilla (somehow?) legions of fans Is this possible? Is anyone interested? I will work on this next week (or the week after). Excellent, thank you so much for your hard work Warly. Best, Sascha Noyes - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+bOyDgzJdfX+cTW8RApszAKCVtH29HG/R6+Aqyb+q+PRUxroETQCeKxdn dxBYDgU0xL227cB4utwlgjU= =+h7o -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Re: toward community-ruled website ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 10 March 2003 12:15, HoytDuff wrote: On Sunday 09 March 2003 21:10, Sascha Noyes wrote: There needs to be a place people can point to and say: this is the info that is needed when reporting eg. a sound bug And what info is needed to add new hardware to the database, etc. And _excellent_ idea. I'll be glad to assist with this! Excellent. We are really making things up as we go along. That is basically the method to the wiki madness: If you want it implemented - you implement it. If there are any disagreements then they shall be discussed, but after someone has made some first steps. Regarding the hardware database: We recongise that an actual database (like the one mandrake has) is the ideal solution. However, the mandrake hardware compatability database has some severe limitations at the moment: 1. No way for community members to add information on hardware they know is compatible. 2. No way of having specific documentation on how to get a specific piece of hardware to work if it does not work out of the box Steffen Barszus actually posted a message to cooker yesterday asking the mandrake people how they envision the community helping them with the hardware database ... and got no answer. Best, Sascha Noyes - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+bOz1gzJdfX+cTW8RAqqwAKCe/dkh8IVpuifnY/WrTae1Rk9CEACgtbTG +Y9VJxzYi6Xx4WlGhw8momw= =7Cmb -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] APCI not working on presario 700
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 10 March 2003 17:14, Henri wrote: on presario 700 : upgraded 9.0 to rc2 : apci does not work. i made a non-expert upgrade, and packages apci and apcid were NOT installed by default. I went to control center-lilo config and then it installed it BUT TURNING IT ON FREEZE THE PC AT BOOT ! using the non-fb entry, i can see it frozen on a the apci PCI detection Sascha's obligatory Presario 700 message: This series of laptops has got bugs in its implementation of Power Management (which is done entirely with the newer ACPI and not the old APM). This causes the machine to lock up on boot with the default kernel. It is possible to boot the default kernel with the switch acpi=off added at boot time, but then power management is not available. (So the fan will go 100% all the time, etc.). It is therefore necessary to recompile the kernel without APIC (yes: without APIC, and with ACPI (they conflict) and ACPI is what is necessary for power management) to get power management features. See the following for a detailed how-to for getting everything working: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/projects/laptop/tuxtop.html - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+bRmTgzJdfX+cTW8RAitiAJ9kLrPsgrSHbAqtvl+fs7rlifCinQCgorKQ 0v6mf5kPDqiOdSMoAAHVlOs= =9s3E -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Re: toward community-ruled website ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 10 March 2003 15:31, Buchan Milne wrote: Sascha Noyes wrote: On Monday 10 March 2003 12:15, HoytDuff wrote: Steffen Barszus actually posted a message to cooker yesterday asking the mandrake people how they envision the community helping them with the hardware database ... and got no answer. Well, again, this is not the best time to try and get input from Mandrakesoft'ers, since they are low on sleep and high on stress ... try again once CDs are shipping and initial updates are done ... I think even Deno is ramping some things up for 9.1 release ... Buchan I didn't want to be accusary or anything. Care to share what Deno has up his sleeve, or is that classified or based too much on assumptions? Best, Sascha Noyes - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+bSMMgzJdfX+cTW8RAq/3AKC2MQbv5RsNjM5OUqAIRditMZ24dwCgliMG s+xkH6ULqY0H5ONhcHagyeU= =kLiG -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] bugzilla does not query unconfirmed by default
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 09 March 2003 15:52, Quel Qun wrote: Could the default query please include search in the unconfirmed defects by default? Thanks, -- _ _ _ _ | |_| | |_/ | | | / / -_) | / / | |_\_\___|_|_\_\_| @ sbcglobal.net Yes, I second that. We are getting a horrendous amount of duplicate bug reports. This will lower that amount. Best, Sascha Noyes - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+a7tGgzJdfX+cTW8RAjKYAJ0TmlodaiRyvxW8pGXWUmJAA53grgCeLMVI PNNFW1w4ZFYCpkETxiqE+D0= =l2IK -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: toward community-ruled website ? (was Re: [Cooker] The Mandrake Audio Workstation)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 09 March 2003 19:32, Austin wrote: The wiki is cool, but there is something to be said for: autonomy simple domain name official status Austin I agree with you on all of those points. The ideal solution would be for mandrake to simply host a wiki on their servers (www.mandrakewiki.com?). Steffen Barszus and me had been lobbying for a wiki for a while now, and only got one very tentative response from a Mandrakesoft documentation writer. My hope with the wiki is that many people start participating and that after a while Mandrake notices us and sees that this is indeed a valuable thing for both the community and the company. An example for the usefulness of the wiki (for those who are not convinced): I've continually seen Mandrake developers ask for more information from people posting bug reports. This is obviously a waste of their precious time. The new Needmoreinfo bugzilla status helps - but not a lot. Imagine you're a newbie and see Needmoreinfo - you have no idea what to do. There needs to be a place people can point to and say: this is the info that is needed when reporting eg. a sound bug (http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=Mandrake/bug_reporting/sound). I've also begun copying and updating the www.mandrakeuser.org documentation on the wiki. (Hint hint: anyone is welcome to help ;-) ) Best, Sascha Noyes - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+a/QdgzJdfX+cTW8RAjerAKCc4bqodWkbHdsJZWwf213sRIwSJACeOHrl haAbXfaUW5jYkv2DsOck76Q= =Y8p8 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] .fonts.cache files in konqueror
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Is anyone else experiencing this after the latest kdebase upgrade? I opened konqueror (it defaults to my home dir). Usually it opens in detailed list view without showing hidden files, but this time it opened in icon view with hidden files. Anyway, my processor was going at 100% constantly adding empty files named like the following: .fonts.cache-1.TMP-Axl3v0. It had added 168 before I changed back to detailed list view. Sascha Noyes - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+anm4gzJdfX+cTW8RAivbAJ92JfTQPTevEWovjsnKPpVn79jRIACfVCQR /JOwYm6bN8eyQxO0bEXQzxQ= =3TH4 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Bug 2775 and duplicates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 07 March 2003 07:39, mailinglist wrote: Could someone remove duplicates as these bugs are obviously the same ? #2775 #2795 #2802 done Sascha Noyes - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+aKwfgzJdfX+cTW8RAvzHAKCslNi3RwKj+/6EZox3gFDZ2aYkHQCeKIOq gPoo0Ivp7tnmx3P//0ZpmCI= =c9nQ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake 9.1 Should be Delayed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 07 March 2003 10:54, Warly wrote: Bret Baptist [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is a bit hard to confirm bugs if you only have 1 vote per component. I have tried to vote for a ton of bugs but can not because of the one vote limit. I reduce it to 1. Why? I raised this issue in bug #878 (https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=878) already. I understood the reason you gave then that it was not your priority. Perhaps after the 9.1 release. Also, vote for #878 if you feel it is important ;-) Best, Sascha Noyes - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+aNA/gzJdfX+cTW8RAh/PAJ96GFL+RqriMioWeBQISLuJAbJuCACgnGyu 0yXsLHGeM6/GiqHrexwhyOY= =DIK6 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake 9.1 Should be Delayed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 07 March 2003 11:09, Warly wrote: George Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And this exactly illustrates the problem with the current development model. Come hell or high water the product WILL ship, even if it turns out to be the buggiest ever. Mandrake and other distributors are entering a period where they are merely replicating proprietary vendors by becoming slaves of a ship date and shipping the whole unfinished mess out for consumers to choke on. That is why it is time to change the development model. Development should be modularized, with each major compenent following a separate development path maintained in sync with the external free software developers. These components should be folded into the distribution ONLY when bulletproof while the distribution itself gets released periodically. This would decentrallize the development of the distribution and sharpen quality control. It would also focus resources on the problems rather than on continuing to persue enhancements at the expenses of stability. A big part of the problem is that Cooker spends most of its life as a mish mash of incomplete and buggy code and then ends up in a big rush to stabalize everything simultaneously as time runs out. Releasing a distro with the current flow of complaints on bugzilla is nuts. But then, as before, I wil somehow make it work by regressing various components backward to previous versions in order to come up with a better functioning whole. I do not agree. There is no point spending 4 months in stabilizing a already deprecated distribution. Strict release date are good because it is worthless to correct all the very single bug that will be ignore by 95 percent of the customers and will be fixed in an update before the CD are on the shelves. Stabilizing a distro too much is mainly a non productive work, and we are supposed to develop and create new pieces of software and innovative things, not replacing any _very_unprofessionnal_ spelling mistakes or titlebar color in the 4000 packages of the distributions I agree with Warly here. People do not seem to notice that Mandrake has a certain development philosophy: 1. Release every 6 months 2. Include the latest stable versions of popular software, irrespective whether it might be unpolished. This has always been the case with Mandrake, and that is why they also have such a large following with power-users (not guru's but not complete newbies). Anybody who thinks that the above two points are new has not been around to see many of Mandrake's releases. I think if you want to get Mandrake to change their policy (like the Debian-like 3-phase suggestion) you are going to have to have pretty good arguments for why this would be better (and not lead to eg. Debian-like outdatedness in the stable version) Best, Sascha Noyes - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+aM7hgzJdfX+cTW8RAvAVAKCrlb9OXLNVEHfZHAnG9h4zJJOvMACeLsbx kEazsPR2oiODFe5uEf8eAdY= =NH3j -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] How to deal with bad bugzilla reporters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Warly, perhaps you have a suggestion of how to deal with [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? He/She has opened 6 duplicate reports of #2754 (https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2754). The original was closed by a Mandrake dev because it contained virtually no useful information and was obviously assigned to the wrong product. I've been resolving the duplicates but am frankly getting sick-and-tired of it. Any ideas? Best, Sascha Noyes - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+aOMOgzJdfX+cTW8RAq+PAJ9wAj2mKlKfHh1OgE1+T2L3eXi82ACfd9ml GPIi5AjVhcfT/ES5ymLWmYU= =UHS/ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kernel-2.4.21.0.13mdk-1-1mdk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 07 March 2003 18:03, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 22:51, Juan Quintela wrote: --=-=-= Name: kernel-2.4.21.0.13mdkRelocations: (not relocateable) Version : 1 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk Build Date: Fri Mar 7 07:20:19 2003 Install date: (not installed) Build Host: bi.mandrakesoft.com Group : System/Kernel and hardware Source RPM: (none) Size: 36346219 License: GPL Packager: Juan Quintela [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL : http://www.kernel.org/ * Tue Mar 04 2003 Juan Quintela [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2.4.21-0.12mdk - make /lib/modules/version/build link construction work. - ntfs iocharset warning disable (pixel). - ntfs 2.1.1a (chmouel request). - disable local apic in more boards. - enable FUSION in BOOT kernel (nplanel request). Argh. ANOTHER broken kernel changelog. Is it so hard to get right?! Does anyone know what's actually *IN* 11mdk and this new 13mdk? I sure haven't been able to find out... While you've got the message quoted: Is there a list where one can see for which motherboards local apic is disabled? In the kernel-source package? Thanks, Sascha Noyes - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+aSlpgzJdfX+cTW8RAkZ3AJ4j5knLVH/IMyEfCmAd3lUmIrsVKQCfee2h O5+N5TQgZysEeYWWrXiOmas= =WQ3S -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] Mandrake community documentation wiki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have decided to get the ball rolling on a Mandrake community documentation wiki. Mandrake community documentation wiki main page: http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=Mandrake It is being hosted by the kind folks over at http://openfacts.berlios.de. (See http://www.infoanarchy.org/story/2003/2/12/11318/9944 for the announcement of OpenFacts, A free knowledge database for the collaborative creation of software documentation) Also of interest, according to Erik Moeller ... the LDP folks have come up with a wikitext2docbook conversion script at http://www.tldp.org/wt2db/ Best, Sascha Noyes - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+aXIzgzJdfX+cTW8RAuM8AKCUD8AXyG0fOI6zuzLkETdQ6OMXgwCgoYk6 wpnH876vakgdiZLeLXQDmGQ= =Eq1i -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake community documentation wiki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 08 March 2003 00:15, Olivier Blin wrote: Good job :) But I think you've mixed up ACPI and APIC notions on this page : http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=Mandrake/Compaq_Presario_7 00_series And you might add details on how to disable APIC or ACPI. I haven't made changes on this page, because these issues are not specific to laptops, for example the noapic kernel option often helps sis900 network chipset users (on desktops). It would be more convenient to move this in a Installation issues topic. Anyway, very good initiative ! Thanks. I hope my last edit clarified the situation a bit. It is strange, but to get power management to work on this laptop one has to disable APIC when recompiling the kernel. Best, Sascha Noyes - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+aYHIgzJdfX+cTW8RAjv8AJwNV2lnkd8Vc7nv6ICfDgYK1nauDQCfVcZe N9201rrEysGkrJYmubM/K3o= =YyJw -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Lyx 1.3 (with QT frontend)?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 28 February 2003 13:06, N Smethurst wrote: Does anyone know if Lyx will be upgraded for the 9.1 release? Version 1.3 includes the much anticipated QT frontend. I asked about this a day after the Mandrake rc1 release. I was told that after rc1 only new releases which are specifically bugfixes would be updated. Sascha Noyes PS please remove the reply-to parameter from your mails, they cause my replies to go to you and not the list (and they serve no purpose) - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+YDsdgzJdfX+cTW8RAipxAJ99nnAt5kvFqEgbCjq8si99gm8CXwCeNLlZ Mx3+RpPchGP0bamuiqae+90= =PFvQ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Lyx 1.3 (with QT frontend)?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 28 February 2003 20:41, you wrote: Le Samedi 1 Mars 2003 01:09, vous avez écrit : I asked about this a day after the Mandrake rc1 release. I was told that after rc1 only new releases which are specifically bugfixes would be updated. Sascha Noyes but surely Xforms-QT could be considered a bugfix?? :) LOL. Yes, I consider it a bugfix. Sascha Noyes - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+YRrrgzJdfX+cTW8RAoaZAJ9n0nVB2oqz/C2AW0gZ9qEOcN9VJwCgs3X7 qXwKY4sb30tN5pFKzxnff4A= =at01 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Do you really think someone is paid to read all of the mandrake lists and removes people when they ask for it? Go to the page you signed up on and sign off. Sascha Noyes On Thursday 27 February 2003 01:35 am, marcos colome wrote: Please remove my e-mail from the cooker list - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+XifngzJdfX+cTW8RArqhAJ9yMjxh/1UzRrf8lSkJlG2JU4xJpwCgjdrS WJy8H/kDuc0hRq3wDlWCNUk= =/9og -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] ACPI Commands
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm seriously impressed with swsuspend. I added resume=/dev/hda8 to my boot entry, rebooted and then suspended my Presario 732US to disc. Everything came back up (usb mouse also) The only problem I had was with not having any sound anymore. Any tips on how to debug this? Thanks, Sascha Noyes On Thursday 27 February 2003 12:26 pm, MEISCH,CORY (HP-Vancouver,ex1) wrote: Cool. It almost works. I added resume=/dev/hda7 to the append statement in lilo. Upon reboot got message at startup resume machine: this is normal swap space. After completing the reboot, ran pmsuspend again. It dropped out of Gnome and wrote to disk and shut off the machine. After powering the laptop back on, it looked like it was writing back into RAM but then I lost X and could not get to a prompt. I just have a bunch of lines at the top of the screen. Going to remove the resume portion and say it almost works... Cory -Original Message- From: Adam Williamson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 8:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Cooker] ACPI Commands On Thu, 2003-02-27 at 16:50, MEISCH,CORY (HP-Vancouver,ex1) wrote: I have an Omnibook XE4500 and I tried the pmsuspend. I get the message to add resume=/dev/hda7 (swap partition) and then that's all. So...er...why do you assume you should ignore it, like the other guy did? I don't understand. :). Do it, reboot, then run pmsuspend again... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Xmd3gzJdfX+cTW8RAicyAJ0QQFz1MfcR8bNH0iLwaEWBvEqcpgCgnGkE zRXvlldFDC85qHGeufn+Cew= =JSR+ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] ACPI Commands
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 OK, some more after running pmsuspend about 4 more times. It seems that I have to run pmsuspend twice. The first time it will say 'freezing processes' and for a split second displays something about my USB mouse, but I can't read it all. It then throws me back to where I initiated pmsuspend. I then run pmsuspend again and the image is made and written to disk. Regarding the sound issues: I can restart alsa in MCC (and put up the levels in aumix) and get sound again. Annoying, but hey. Anyone else tried this on a Presario 700 series yet? Sascha Noyes On Thursday 27 February 2003 02:30 pm, Sascha Noyes wrote: I'm seriously impressed with swsuspend. I added resume=/dev/hda8 to my boot entry, rebooted and then suspended my Presario 732US to disc. Everything came back up (usb mouse also) The only problem I had was with not having any sound anymore. Any tips on how to debug this? Thanks, Sascha Noyes On Thursday 27 February 2003 12:26 pm, MEISCH,CORY (HP-Vancouver,ex1) wrote: Cool. It almost works. I added resume=/dev/hda7 to the append statement in lilo. Upon reboot got message at startup resume machine: this is normal swap space. After completing the reboot, ran pmsuspend again. It dropped out of Gnome and wrote to disk and shut off the machine. After powering the laptop back on, it looked like it was writing back into RAM but then I lost X and could not get to a prompt. I just have a bunch of lines at the top of the screen. Going to remove the resume portion and say it almost works... Cory -Original Message- From: Adam Williamson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 8:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Cooker] ACPI Commands On Thu, 2003-02-27 at 16:50, MEISCH,CORY (HP-Vancouver,ex1) wrote: I have an Omnibook XE4500 and I tried the pmsuspend. I get the message to add resume=/dev/hda7 (swap partition) and then that's all. So...er...why do you assume you should ignore it, like the other guy did? I don't understand. :). Do it, reboot, then run pmsuspend again... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Xm2rgzJdfX+cTW8RAq8pAKCICgFheYoKGXngKS5mPhoetW4MzgCcCbV2 fNT2KbG1NU8uQnQE20Jv3Sg= =qVaM -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] ACPI Commands
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 27 February 2003 04:53 pm, Jack Coates wrote: assuming pmsuspend is related to the suspend.sh script from swsusp page, you should look at the /etc/suspend.conf (or whatever it's been renamed) and tell it that you want to restart sound during the cycle. Jack When running pmsuspend there is some text in the bottom left hand corner 'Swsusp beta 17' . It is in a package called suspend-scripts. Looks like the mandrake guys have renamed it to /etc/sysconfig/suspend. There is an option RESTORE_SOUND, which by default is set to no; I set it to yes and added my sound card module (snd-via82xx) to the line below: SOUND_MODULES=sb uart401 sound soundcore maestro cs4281 And then sound would work after a suspend, it was still necessary to start aumix and set up the volumes. Any ideas on how to retain sound levels across alsa restarts ? It should obviously work, as there is no problem between reboots. Any ideas anyone. Chmouel, maybe you wouldn't mind just adding in the snd-via82xx module to SOUND_MODULES= by default? Sascha Noyes On Thu, 2003-02-27 at 11:30, Sascha Noyes wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm seriously impressed with swsuspend. I added resume=/dev/hda8 to my boot entry, rebooted and then suspended my Presario 732US to disc. Everything came back up (usb mouse also) The only problem I had was with not having any sound anymore. Any tips on how to debug this? Thanks, Sascha Noyes On Thursday 27 February 2003 12:26 pm, MEISCH,CORY (HP-Vancouver,ex1) wrote: Cool. It almost works. I added resume=/dev/hda7 to the append statement in lilo. Upon reboot got message at startup resume machine: this is normal swap space. After completing the reboot, ran pmsuspend again. It dropped out of Gnome and wrote to disk and shut off the machine. After powering the laptop back on, it looked like it was writing back into RAM but then I lost X and could not get to a prompt. I just have a bunch of lines at the top of the screen. Going to remove the resume portion and say it almost works... Cory -Original Message- From: Adam Williamson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 8:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Cooker] ACPI Commands On Thu, 2003-02-27 at 16:50, MEISCH,CORY (HP-Vancouver,ex1) wrote: I have an Omnibook XE4500 and I tried the pmsuspend. I get the message to add resume=/dev/hda7 (swap partition) and then that's all. So...er...why do you assume you should ignore it, like the other guy did? I don't understand. :). Do it, reboot, then run pmsuspend again... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Xmd3gzJdfX+cTW8RAicyAJ0QQFz1MfcR8bNH0iLwaEWBvEqcpgCgnGkE zRXvlldFDC85qHGeufn+Cew= =JSR+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+XqPagzJdfX+cTW8RArKhAJ9Ll8rk3di31CaTBwhXymrrbl4rJQCfR1y7 7Gci/ZcjciQAp3bvFZ4YL4I= =X5Xf -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Upgrade from coocker : lost antialiasing under KDE ...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 21 February 2003 04:33 pm, Jason Komar wrote: Tulear wrote: I've just upgarde all my package from RC1 to cooker and I've lost antialiasing under KDE freetype2-2.1.3-7mdk freetype-1.3.1-18mdk kdebase-3.1-49mdk I've verified under kdecontrol, antialiasing in on, but all fonts are :-( Do you know the reason ? I am noticing the same thing. After an update of my Cooker about 2 days ago, all the fonts look crappy. Jason Komar Lubetec Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Same here, but only the KDE fonts. The Gnome application fonts still look very nice. Sascha Noyes - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+VqJVgzJdfX+cTW8RApFnAKCJ+9N1Jv8KtgSjw6h7s68Pt91MJACfSoJl 01oml8uRR4zCj+BnmM8yOI4= =MRQO -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] ACPI problem with Dell i8200
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 19 February 2003 05:18 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 19 February 2003 04:36 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 19 February 2003 04:26 pm, Jeremy Salch wrote: Feb 19 15:16:20 pr2 kernel: Dell Inspiron with broken BIOS detected. Refusing to enable the local APIC. would this have something to do with ACPI not working properly on a Dell Inspiron 8200 How can what seems like every machine have a broken BIOS with respect to apic. At some point do we look at the kernel implementation and try to fix that instead of saying everybody else is screwed up. I need to clarify my point in that although the question was about acpi, I was addressing the error message, not the question. The answer to the question is that the acpi implementation depends on the apic, so if the apic does not work properly, acpi will not work properly either. I've got a Compaq Presario 700 series laptop. I had to recompile the kernel and leave away apic to get acpi to function. The only way that I have tested the functionality of acpi is wrt cpu fan throttling, shutdown and reboot. These all work fine. Which acpi functions depend on apic? How will acpi missbehave if apic is not installed. Any remedies? Thank you very much, Sascha Noyes - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+VBLLgzJdfX+cTW8RAgx/AKCWZL7XPl3yHsxHS4/EMqao/+HqAwCfYkLa On4KmOJzx4GPIkGvdOlHnCM= =vyoB -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] synaptic driver for laptops
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 18 February 2003 05:39 am, Guillaume Rousse wrote: Could it be possible to include this driver in XFree package ? http://www.mobilix.org/touchpad_driver.html Me too! Sascha - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+UoDagzJdfX+cTW8RAo++AJ9LLAY/wUjJsqZ+ftSwosAIsfJWTACfS+z7 tYxAI/Jr/yP+6lESWGWjwWc= =BMb8 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] 9.1 packages version freeze and rc 1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 18 February 2003 11:08 am, Warly wrote: RC 1 will soon be available on the mirrors and marks the beginning of the packages and features freeze for 9.1. New versions of packages will not be allowed exept for critical bugs. New releases of packages will be allowed until approximatively March, 7th. These changes affects only main, Lenny is taking care of the contribs with his own rules. Be careful although that as not all the contribs are included in the boxes, you should warn Lenny about packges you would like to see or not to see in final 9.1. lyx 1.3 ? Sascha Noyes - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+UoFtgzJdfX+cTW8RAp6AAKC3eoKnu0vpgKVxSVH/Tbi3hPzF8gCfTkKX IODKf2RoiTHrZ+/+/mGU2jE= =Bb9n -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Re: UNIX Lore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 13 February 2003 07:19 am, John Allen wrote: On Thursday 13 February 2003 12:00, et wrote: I'll bet that until it was brought up NOBODY remembered that this was in the man pages. It's been there since 1987 - not exactly a recent addition. I'll bet that if this really WAS an issue, that it would have come up sometime in the last 14 years - and as far as I've been able to find it hasn't. There are always going to be things in the world that SOMEONE finds offensive. My vote - if this ever came to a vote - would be to leave the man page package alone. You are probably correct (in respect to the vote), and if Unix/Linux had remained the sole province of Unix geeks (like us on this list) then it probably wouldn't matter very much; but I bet that Mandrake is hoping to sell to the general consumer, and corporations as well, after all they probably don't have a hope in hell of selling to most of us on *this* list. Why do you claim that Mandrake does not have a hope of selling to most of the people on this list? Sascha Noyes - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+S6QHgzJdfX+cTW8RAkhAAJ0dgfM2yFrW4hvhSAjF6+gr+6t5LQCgnlmI KCxwUi+yOF4G4aIiky+b4K0= =R5nN -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] does cooker kgpg work?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 13 February 2003 08:06 am, rcc wrote: Can someone please confirm that cooker kgpg is actually working. On my box it doesn't start. A trace didn't reveal anything to me apart from a nosuchfile on qt3/plugins. I just want to make sure that none of my own gpg related stuff clashes with kgpg. - Mark It works here. The source of the confusion might be that (with me at least) it starts docked into the panel (I run fluxbox - so it attached itself in the top-right corner). Sascha Noyes - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+S6cigzJdfX+cTW8RAoNZAKC25qQwkWv7xz4FCiq5vXtsNlHRlwCfVy15 RFqNx0zHf02ac3RaZ8z9ir4= =6RS9 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Re: Creation of a community
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 12 February 2003 01:15 pm, Jean-Michel Dault wrote: Le mer 12/02/2003 à 14:31, Warly a écrit : A first web page should points all the available document, and I should definitely consider updating the Mandrake Linux policy and guidelines. Regarding development and tasks, I though that some tweaks on bugzilla could make it used as a task manager. Bugzilla is so painfully slow it's unuseable. - There are *way* too many packages, and it causes a *huge* delay in displaying the pages. - Also, every bug report is CC'ed on Cooker, to the bugs list and to the maintainer. This makes it hard to filter the bugreports to concentrate on one area. - Finally, it uses https:// so everything is encrypted, and adds to the slowness if the site. I would recommend using a Wiki, just like the one we have for internal engineering. It's easy to install, manage, and very low on resources. What's more, anyone can create a topic and link it to a project page. I think a wiki is definately needed. It is at the moment probably the most flexible and yet powerful collaboration tool available for an open community like the Mandrake community is. (Witness www.wikipedia.org) The sooner - the better ;-) Sascha Noyes - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Ss8AgzJdfX+cTW8RAkxPAJ0cypLnEbeTNLK9y35qd3FiD5vh/wCfcE/V 2MEfLDfOmlguvzxWWDo/K4c= =EjMk -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Bug 9.1 beta 3: unable to boot compaq laptop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In short, its a bug in the acpi implementation in the compaq 700 series. I've put up a how-to for installing cooker on it at my homepage (http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/projects/laptop/tuxtop.html) To be able to boot into Mandrake the first time you have to set acpi=off at boot, and then recompile the kernel as stated on the above page. I'd also be thankful for feedback on the how-to, so don't hesitate. Sascha Noyes On Wednesday 05 February 2003 03:36 am, Francis Giraldeau wrote: Hi, I have a compaq presario 710, and it does not boot from the ISO 9.1 beta 3... ISO's are ok. It only display a blank black screen after the initial splash screen. There is no sign that the kernel is booting, and none of virtual consol are working. Have any idea? It should be the kernel? Some info on my computer... http://www.cs.mun.ca/~michael/compaq-710.html Thanks, Francis Giraldeau - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+QSrdgzJdfX+cTW8RApE0AJ9Jy5bLOj75+yMNh/vLcR6f8BlmBACeLLkH 8Q3JVYlbO1EQsJTpXCgH9t0= =rk9O -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] gnucash-1.8.0-1mdk
* Mon Feb 03 2003 Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1.8.0-1mdk - Release 1.8.0 - Remove patch0 (merged upstream) - Patch1: check for guile1.4 existence Merci beaucoup Frederic! Sascha
[Cooker] Gnucash packaging and main - inclusion request
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Gnucash 1.8 was released just a short while ago. It has major new feature implementations. Judging by the number of votes on Mandrakeclub.com (With 224 votes it is the third highest RPM overall, and the most requested piece of free software), it should almost definitely be included in main. Cheers, Sascha Noyes - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+PuKagzJdfX+cTW8RAm+XAJwJL2doAqKWTBQjSapJ3qOMzwDTbwCdGAdm xpL48zkAAz0jBjc2FT9R7jI= =hVYW -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Kde ACPI battery monitor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 15 January 2003 12:46 pm, Jeremy wrote: The battery monitor on the tast bar shows a grer / black battery with a red X over it. And when i click on setup it says Your computer seems to have a parital ACPI installation probably ACPI was enabled, but some of the sub-options were not enabled - you need to enable at least 'AC Adaptor' and 'Control Method Battery' and rebuild your kernel IIRC you need to install acpid in order to get full functionality (for battery monitoring, AC adaptor on/off, etc.) ¨urpmi acpid¨ - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+JadCgzJdfX+cTW8RAt58AJ9+7KIjIVzWAaS/CeryvwoMbHSUZgCeM/PL k2ow+/5r68CD6D+s3TVuMdU= =Ho3n -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] Printerdrake can´t find printers.conf
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Till. The Epson stylus C42UX will not install with the latest drakconf (9.1 - -0.6mdk). It works flawlessly in 9.0. The output from running printerdrake in konsole is the following: - -- [root@localhost sasch]# printerdrake TODO: XSetInputFocus if force_focus TODO: ensure focus stuff rmmod: module lp is not loaded rmmod: module parport_pc is not loaded rmmod: module parport_probe is not loaded rmmod: module parport is not loaded modprobe: Can't locate module parport_probe modprobe: Can't locate module parport_probe rmmod: module parport_probe is not loaded TODO: XSetInputFocus if force_focus TODO: ensure focus stuff TODO: XSetInputFocus if force_focus TODO: ensure focus stuff TODO: XSetInputFocus if force_focus TODO: ensure focus stuff installing ftp://192.168.1.105//home/lusr/burn/cooker/i586//Mandrake/RPMS/libijs0-0.34-23mdk.i586.rpm ftp://192.168.1.105//home/lusr/burn/cooker/i586//Mandrake/RPMS/mpage-2.5.3-3mdk.i586.rpm ftp://192.168.1.105//home/lusr/burn/cooker/i586//Mandrake/RPMS/printer-filters-1.0-83mdk.i586.rpm ftp://192.168.1.105//home/lusr/burn/cooker/i586//Mandrake/RPMS/foomatic-2.0.2-20021220.1mdk.i586.rpm ftp://192.168.1.105//home/lusr/burn/cooker/i586//Mandrake/RPMS/nc-1.10-15mdk.i586.rpm rpm: no packages given for erase TODO: XSetInputFocus if force_focus TODO: ensure focus stuff TODO: XSetInputFocus if force_focus TODO: ensure focus stuff Cannot read printrc file! TODO: XSetInputFocus if force_focus TODO: ensure focus stuff TODO: XSetInputFocus if force_focus TODO: ensure focus stuff installing ftp://192.168.1.105//home/lusr/burn/cooker/i586//Mandrake/RPMS/scli-0.2.9-2mdk.i586.rpm ftp://192.168.1.105//home/lusr/burn/cooker/i586//Mandrake/RPMS/gimpprint-4.2.5-0.1mdk.i586.rpm ftp://192.168.1.105//home/lusr/burn/cooker/i586//Mandrake/RPMS/nmap-3.00-1mdk.i586.rpm ftp://192.168.1.105//home/lusr/burn/cooker/i586//Mandrake/RPMS/printer-testpages-1.0-83mdk.i586.rpm ftp://192.168.1.105//home/lusr/burn/cooker/i586//Mandrake/RPMS/printer-utils-1.0-83mdk.i586.rpm rpm: no packages given for erase TODO: XSetInputFocus if force_focus TODO: ensure focus stuff install-info: warning: no info dir entry in `/usr/share/info/scli.info.bz2' TODO: XSetInputFocus if force_focus TODO: ensure focus stuff TODO: XSetInputFocus if force_focus TODO: ensure focus stuff TODO: XSetInputFocus if force_focus TODO: ensure focus stuff Cannot read printrc file! TODO: XSetInputFocus if force_focus TODO: ensure focus stuff Cannot read printers.conf file! - -- Printerdrake exits after asking whether to use CUPS or the other printing system. I chose CUPS. Thanks, Sascha Noyes - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+JDoBgzJdfX+cTW8RAhSbAJ0ROjc8I30gLcJtJhyfTVMfRnzKZQCbBHq1 NiuQhoCc3QvHDpNfzsPFL3I= =ILSy -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] bugzilla bugs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 There are two annoying issues with bugzilla at the moment: 1. There are two entries for drakconf (drakconf DrakConf). When one votes for a bug that is listed under drakconf, then there is also a check-box for the same bug under DrakConf. 2.(is perhaps related to 1) Voting for multiple bugs that appear in the same component (in this case drakconf) is not possible. Bugzilla gives the error message: ¨You may only use at most 1 votes for bugs in the drakconf product, but you are trying to use 2.¨ I´m trying to vote for both bug 770 805. Sascha Noyes - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+JEzKgzJdfX+cTW8RAt/YAKC1Q+/rRNzBY/6rR4/6WryqpLxBKACgpK22 B38xU5ZqJSWNRRZkmBDzk8I= =ET1n -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 According to distrowatch Mandrake 9.1 beta1 is out on some mirrors. - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+HtFOgzJdfX+cTW8RAvbsAKCb4CY81Atyx0S1SNjmpRPFPWIc2wCgraJJ CJ9L+B6JPPolTSvomaJkmDI= =dEmK -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] unable to install current cooker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Booting from the network.img floppy. I get the following error message after selecting the install class (Install): An error ocurred. Undefined subroutine modules::interactive 2:: load_category called. When looking at terminal 3 (altF3) I get more information. The step in which the error ocurred was: starting step 'setup SCSI' after which I got 3 error messages: missing module ide-cd missing module cdrom An error ocurred. Undefined subroutine modules::interactive 2:: load_category called at /usr/bin/perl-install/install_steps_interactive.pm line 196. - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+GZkTgzJdfX+cTW8RAiHQAJ0TxJwQXaqiqiZno7RpX5OYdkiudQCeLKG7 FEBBH+xo2iZif7xAiZpBt0c= =wZWK -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] solved - unable to install current cooker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This error is corrected in the latest install image - thanks! On Monday 06 January 2003 09:56, Sascha Noyes wrote: Booting from the network.img floppy. I get the following error message after selecting the install class (Install): An error ocurred. Undefined subroutine modules::interactive 2:: load_category called. When looking at terminal 3 (altF3) I get more information. The step in which the error ocurred was: starting step 'setup SCSI' after which I got 3 error messages: missing module ide-cd missing module cdrom An error ocurred. Undefined subroutine modules::interactive 2:: load_category called at /usr/bin/perl-install/install_steps_interactive.pm line 196. -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+GaxmgzJdfX+cTW8RAsNZAJ4kEwtasZaX+yb9iev5HTf6QlxJ4gCggCZe sFZGcHxLm+/DizNoDBaj7ss= =hr5d -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] internet connection on bootup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 04 January 2003 14:01, Guillaume Rousse wrote: Le Samedi 4 Janvier 2003 18:30, Sascha Noyes a écrit : However, this is not the perfect solution, as you still need loopback for most applications. My personal solution is to have a network profile with loopback only for when i'm roaming, and to switch between different profiles with symlinks. Could you give a short synopsis of how you create a netword profile, and how you switch between different profiles with symlinks? Or maybe point me in the way of some documentation? Sure. Identify all files involved in a given network configuration, which means basically: /etc/sysconfig/network /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 /etc/hosts /etc/resolv.conf And potentially others: /etc/exports /etc/rcx.d etc... Just rename them to name.foo, where name is original file name, and foo is your profile name. Then use attached script to switch from a given profile to another. draknet also had limited support for different network profiles, but i don't know current state. Thank you very much. I'll look at implementing this rather soon. - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+GLzTgzJdfX+cTW8RAv2/AKCUboXchuOJW3PHNA6ErObhbCRElwCfetio zqmLBn1TYf4OY9Vpgww7HFY= =o8JE -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] internet connection on bootup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 04 January 2003 12:24, Guillaume Rousse wrote: Le Lundi 30 Décembre 2002 12:36, Sascha Noyes a écrit : Hi, Yes, the box is a laptop. It is sometimes connected to a broadband gateway which gives out an IP address via DHCP, but sometimes not. If it is disconnected everything (as Brook Humphrey noted) runs extremely slowly. I did: chkconfig --level 2345 network off, but this only turned off networking on the next boot. You must use chkconfig --del network to permanently prevent network at boot. Then use service network start/stop manually to launch/shutdown the network. However, this is not the perfect solution, as you still need loopback for most applications. My personal solution is to have a network profile with loopback only for when i'm roaming, and to switch between different profiles with symlinks. Could you give a short synopsis of how you create a netword profile, and how you switch between different profiles with symlinks? Or maybe point me in the way of some documentation? Thank you very much, Sascha - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+FxpHgzJdfX+cTW8RAuFVAJ0eNeYEzNGoM0f0b5fifo4513/mWwCeJ+8X 7xQhfGJQPQ3rWny5C+7yNqo= =UcqP -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Cooker problem: Printerdrake does not work
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Entering the bug into bugzilla is generally a good idea, as it will ensure that it is not overlooked/forgotten. It is also a good way of the Mandrake QA team knowing that certain bugs are reproducible for other testers (by people voting for existing bugs that they themselves experience) other than simply counting the number of me toos on this list, and to prioritize fixes (lots of votes = important/significant bug). I am also experiencing problems with PrinterDrake. I don't have any printer configured yet, but was hoping to configure an Epson Stylus C42UX usb printer. Printerdrake gives the following error after starting, (Similar to yours, just a few more Use of uninitialized value eroors): - -- [root@localhost lusr]# printerdrake Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/lib/libDrakX/printer/default.pm line 37 (#1) (W uninitialized) An undefined value was used as if it were already defined. It was interpreted as a or a 0, but maybe it was a mistake. To suppress this warning assign a defined value to your variables. To help you figure out what was undefined, perl tells you what operation you used the undefined value in. Note, however, that perl optimizes your program and the operation displayed in the warning may not necessarily appear literally in your program. For example, that $foo is usually optimized into that . $foo, and the warning will refer to the concatenation (.) operator, even though there is no . in your program. Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/lib/libDrakX/printer/default.pm line 38 (#1) Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/lib/libDrakX/common.pm line 208 (#1) TODO: XSetInputFocus if force_focus TODO: ensure focus stuff TODO: XSetInputFocus if force_focus TODO: ensure focus stuff TODO: XSetInputFocus if force_focus TODO: ensure focus stuff cupsd (pid 6574) is running... TODO: XSetInputFocus if force_focus TODO: ensure focus stuff Use of uninitialized value in split at /usr/lib/libDrakX/printer/common.pm line 44 (#1) Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/lib/libDrakX/printer/office.pm line 101 (#1) Use of uninitialized value in hash element at /usr/lib/libDrakX/printer/office.pm line 101 (#1) Use of uninitialized value in string eq at /usr/lib/libDrakX/interactive.pm line 266 (#1) TODO: XSetInputFocus if force_focus TODO: ensure focus stuff Use of uninitialized value in numeric gt () at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/MDK/Common/Math.pm line 133 (#1) Use of uninitialized value in subtraction (-) at /usr/lib/libDrakX/interactive/gtk.pm line 569 (#1) Use of uninitialized value in split at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/MDK/Common/String.pm line 138 (#1) - -- Printerdrake with me however does not stall, probably because I don't have a printer configured already. Configuring a printer however is not possible. Here is what I get when clicking add new printer: - -- Argument isn't numeric in numeric lt () at /usr/lib/libDrakX/printer/printerdrake.pm line 3012 (#2) (W numeric) The indicated string was fed as an argument to an operator that expected a numeric value instead. If you're fortunate the message will identify which operator was so unfortunate. TODO: XSetInputFocus if force_focus TODO: ensure focus stuff Use of uninitialized value in subtraction (-) at /usr/lib/libDrakX/interactive/gtk.pm line 533 (#1) - This is probably a trivial fix so I won't give the output of the next few operation, but will gladly if someone needs it. Suffice it to say that it doesn't work. P.S. Yes, you have broken one rule of the etiquette already! ;-) You've set your reply-to address, which I noticed when I replied to you but nothing arrived on the cooker list. Sascha Noyes On Thursday 02 January 2003 23:46, John van Spaandonk wrote: Hi all, I've got the following problem with PrinterDrake: I started printerdrake from the command line to get the error output (listed below). The error output seems to indicate several problems in the perl script. Then I get the tiny window saying please wait, reading printer configuration files. After a while (1 minute or so) the text in the window disappears and printerdrake hangs (I kill it with CTRL-C). This is a real bummer, since I cannot configure my printer properly and now cannot print. Is this something to report with an official Cooker erorr report? I also experience several problems with installation / upgrading packages, which I will report in a separate mail after I read the reponse on this one. ps this is my first post
Re: [Cooker] ACPI not working in recompiled kernel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 OK, I solved the somewhat strange problem. For some reason the kernel installation added the acpi=off parameter to the lilo boot entry. (I suspect that it might be the fact that I booted with the option acpi=off in lilo into the session that i compiled and installed the kernel in). By the way - is there a good way to exit reading a man page on the console (besides the stupid ctrlz command that I use now). Thanks, Sascha On Monday 30 December 2002 07:20, Sascha Noyes wrote: I just recompiled and installed the cooker kernel on my laptop to take advantage of the power-management features. It's a newish laptop (presario 700), so PM is done entirely in ACPI. What I changed was the following: In processor type and features: change 586 to athlon change mobile athlon powernow! from module to activated turn APIC for uniprocessors off In general setup: turn PCI hotplug off change all ACPI features that are marked as 'm' to 'y' turn advanced power management BIOS support off However, when booting the new kernel ACPI does not seem to be functioning, there is not /proc/acpi folder and fan, processor are always running at 100%. Also acpid will not start because there is no /proc/acpi/event folder. Could it be that the system wants the ACPI features to be in modules. The steps for compiling the kernel were the following: make mrproper make xconfig make dep make clean make bzImage make modules make modules_install make install I had compiled from the vanilla kernel with the acpi patch applied, and everything worked, but I wanted the Mandrake kernel features as well (eg. supermount, PCMCIA support, etc.). And it should be said that with the default kernel I had to turn off acpi at boot (acpi=off), otherwise the boot would hang. Did I want too much? Any ideas? TIA, Sascha Noyes -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+EpAfgzJdfX+cTW8RAnKQAJ4kJ0FYzV8yBJuJ3ccgLR4dbAoW2wCfdCYo 03OTzuZgnlsQE49M3hduq34= =lAnM -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] internet connection on bootup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Unfortunately, this did not really solve my problems :-( For a while the connection seemed fine - except that it would still stall the start of any program if disconnected - but then after a couple of reboots I could not start any desktop environment, because of some connection issues IIRC. Oh well, back to the standard setup. If/when Deno implements the voting not only for RPMs but also for features, etc. in MandrakeClub I will suggest an improvement of normal functioning in Mandrake-Linux when no connection is present. I'm sure one of the clever people at Mandrake will come up with a good hack! Sascha Noyes On Monday 30 December 2002 22:14, Jason Bowman wrote: On Monday 30 December 2002 09:29 am , Sascha Noyes wrote: OK, I set that variable to 20 seconds. However, the real problem is still not solved. Now, instead of waiting for 60 seconds, I can wait 20 seconds for any program to start when I am not connected. The only solution that I got it! I was looking in the network server startup script but... anyway... Here is what I think you should do. Edit your /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ethX file to contain: ONBOOT=no Next take whatever manual dhcp command you would execute (for me this is 'dhclient eth0') and put this at the end of rc.local with an ampersand after it so it doesn't block. dhclient eth0 Note that rc.local is executed after all other scripts so you might want to move this somewhere else if it does not run early enough for you... Later, Jason B. - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+EpHxgzJdfX+cTW8RAmwqAJ93cGVWveIzZywvwaeql9kcb2wZ+wCgi/ec qfWxlLzRRgX4FmNUn1y/7i0= =vCCr -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] internet connection on bootup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Yes, the box is a laptop. It is sometimes connected to a broadband gateway which gives out an IP address via DHCP, but sometimes not. If it is disconnected everything (as Brook Humphrey noted) runs extremely slowly. I did: chkconfig --level 2345 network off, but this only turned off networking on the next boot. I have observed in gkrellm that when i physically disconnect the machine while it is up, after a while it will start trying to send 60 bytes of information every second for 3 seconds and then do a 2 second pause before resuming. Presumably it is querying the gateway. However it just doesn't give up. Ideally it would give up after a couple of tries. I checked /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ethX, but it only contains the following 4 lines: DEVICE=eth0 BOOTPROTO=dhcp NETMASK=255.255.255.0 ONBOOT=yes I'll check out the -t option for dhcpd. Where is the config file specifying how dhcpd should be started at boot? Thanks, Sascha On Sunday 29 December 2002 11:59 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: Sascha, I'm guessing that you have a box that is sometimes connected sometimes not.. like a laptop. If so a dirty fix would be simply doing chkconfig --level 2345 network off which would then mean a manual start when you do want it to go. Or is this a DHCP timeout? if so passing the -t option (from the man dhcpcd manpage) allows you to set the time it will try to get a lease. I believe but have never tried it this would be set in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ethX where X is your NIC. James On Sun, 2002-12-29 at 11:41, Sascha Noyes wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Is there some way to shorten the time that bootup spends on trying to connect to the internet if there is eg. no physical connection. Maybe someone can point me to the Mandrake script that handles this. If enough people think this is useful, I'll put an enhancement proposal on bugzilla for specifying the time bootup should spend on connecting to the internet in MCC. Thanks, Sascha Noyes - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+D0/vgzJdfX+cTW8RAn0IAJ4j6ymyX8nZi/VD3KQkH7vWRXBzWgCfbP55 poO4vKe/3EGT9kV6Lx3nph0= =9ieL -END PGP SIGNATURE- - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+EC+8gzJdfX+cTW8RAnKlAKCnvTAX4HD7zGcS0bBVn+NRpFKTXgCdEgfb oxSg6yw2c3FFal5cu/xAXek= =hQ5a -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] ACPI not working in recompiled kernel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I just recompiled and installed the cooker kernel on my laptop to take advantage of the power-management features. It's a newish laptop (presario 700), so PM is done entirely in ACPI. What I changed was the following: In processor type and features: change 586 to athlon change mobile athlon powernow! from module to activated turn APIC for uniprocessors off In general setup: turn PCI hotplug off change all ACPI features that are marked as 'm' to 'y' turn advanced power management BIOS support off However, when booting the new kernel ACPI does not seem to be functioning, there is not /proc/acpi folder and fan, processor are always running at 100%. Also acpid will not start because there is no /proc/acpi/event folder. Could it be that the system wants the ACPI features to be in modules. The steps for compiling the kernel were the following: make mrproper make xconfig make dep make clean make bzImage make modules make modules_install make install I had compiled from the vanilla kernel with the acpi patch applied, and everything worked, but I wanted the Mandrake kernel features as well (eg. supermount, PCMCIA support, etc.). And it should be said that with the default kernel I had to turn off acpi at boot (acpi=off), otherwise the boot would hang. Did I want too much? Any ideas? TIA, Sascha Noyes - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+EDn+gzJdfX+cTW8RAnf+AKCx2RGb68dauODjxxAV11e8yRwbXwCfQURb R/hV7o8R9qGS4bzjMp8XQGI= =PCkh -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] internet connection on bootup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 30 December 2002 01:10 pm, David Walser wrote: --- Sascha Noyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll check out the -t option for dhcpd. Where is the config file specifying how dhcpd should be started at boot? dhcpcd you mean, but you need to set the variable: DHCP_TIMEOUT in /etc/sysconfig/network to whatever you want the timeout to be, see dhcpcd's manpage for more info. OK, I set that variable to 20 seconds. However, the real problem is still not solved. Now, instead of waiting for 60 seconds, I can wait 20 seconds for _any_ program to start when I am not connected. The only solution that I can think of now would be a manual intervention (eg. open MCC, type root password, goto system, goto services, stop network). Ideally I would like my machine to function normally after a network disconnect without manual intervention. Is there no way to specify that dhcpcd should not be invoked unless there is an action carried out that expressedly needs to send/fetch data over the network? Sascha - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+EFhdgzJdfX+cTW8RAkWuAJ9C+hmnbXwFs6V3JZPhZHUiw++ctACfa5eb /xlxkEegxEDWBMIQyo9SWbA= =ynxr -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] internet connection on bootup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Is there some way to shorten the time that bootup spends on trying to connect to the internet if there is eg. no physical connection. Maybe someone can point me to the Mandrake script that handles this. If enough people think this is useful, I'll put an enhancement proposal on bugzilla for specifying the time bootup should spend on connecting to the internet in MCC. Thanks, Sascha Noyes - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+D0/vgzJdfX+cTW8RAn0IAJ4j6ymyX8nZi/VD3KQkH7vWRXBzWgCfbP55 poO4vKe/3EGT9kV6Lx3nph0= =9ieL -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Re: [gcc3.0] New: When Patching Kernel 2.4.18 with Linux-abi patch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 29 December 2002 10:09 pm, Ben Reser wrote: On Mon, Dec 30, 2002 at 03:46:58AM +0100, [Bug 404] wrote: https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=404 Product: gcc3.0 Component: gcc3.0 Summary: When Patching Kernel 2.4.18 with Linux-abi patch Version: 3.0.4-5mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: ASSIGNED Severity: blocker Priority: P2 AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello I just downloaded the wanila kernel (2.4.18) and patched it with linux-abi patch for kernel 2.4.18. When compiling this kernel under linux mandrake 9.0 I just got the following error: Internal compiler error in emit_move_insn_1 at expr.c:3106, please submit aqa bug report --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-10-14 15:37 --- For Linux mandrake 9.0 is there any emulation support for other binaries, we need to run SCO binaries under linux --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-11-11 23:39 --- For the compiler ICE, please reproduce the last command invocation and add -save-temps to it. Then, it will generate a .i file which is preprocessed already. Please attach that .i file. --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-11-12 00:05 --- There is no support for running SCO binaries, but it can be there. Will try to integrate linux-abi. Do you have any easy way to test if things are working? Later, Juan. Warly, I tried closing this bug as invalivd via the web interface. But it says that it's got an invalid product. Bugzilla should let you change the resolution on a bug even if it's on a no-longer valid product... File is attached per the request of the bugzilla error message... I had a similar problem trying to close one of my old bugs. I had to change the version to the current one to get it to close the bug. ...annoying. Sascha - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+D3W3gzJdfX+cTW8RAhb0AJ9JfnQAAQ1DyjEcs0FoJNyRjLxVAACffezV zzF8FlIKbLWs7MUM5iXitCM= =GfzX -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] new cooker install fails during package install
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 18 December 2002 11:56 pm, utuhiro wrote: Sascha Noyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Installing a new cooker system via ftp fails just after starting to install the packages. It reads the first 50 header files, and then stops giving this output: - -- error ordering package list: (no errror) at /usr/bin/perl-install/pkgs.pm line 996 - - I have all cooker rpms in my harddisk. I format partitions, select the packages, and start installing cooker.. but I can't install them. I saw the message: --- An error occurred error ordering package list: (no error) --- I could install cooker three days ago. I failed to download some packages ? or this is cooker's problem ? Please make an account on Mandrakesoft bugzilla and vote for bug 697 (and any others that are still unconfirmed and that you are also experiencing) Thanks, Sascha - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+A3XrgzJdfX+cTW8RAsajAKCWe1hPfwO/63i9rHZfgV3zkzMQJACgrz59 4f8inZV6UnlhsUviuzojXgM= =T8Xz -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] no install possible with the current cooker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Please make an account on Mandrakesoft bugzilla and vote for bug 697 (and any others that are still unconfirmed and that you are also experiencing) Thanks, Sascha Noyes On Friday 20 December 2002 03:13 pm, Udo Weber wrote: Hi folks, I tryed to install cooker from a rsynced tree (several times rsynced without changes, so I believe there should nothing missing). After the Package Group Selection window I get following error: An error occurred error ordering package list: cannot open Requirename index using db3 - No such file or directory (2) An I'm back in the Package Group Selection Window. . Can anyone give me some hints how to resolve this or if this should be a bug in the cooker tree please correct this. Thanks Udo - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+A3aIgzJdfX+cTW8RAjylAJsFkZf7NcX/MHtHgXikVUPisnfOmQCfZJku QfCPHb9svApwBbUT3kuEkp4= =hYY1 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Unsigned packages in contribs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 18 December 2002 10:55 am, Steve Fox wrote: Is there a reason that some contrib packages are left unsigned? If Mandrake rebuilds uploaded SRPMs why aren't they then signed with the Mandrake key? Because Mandrake can't vouch for their integrity. The building of SRPMs is (most likely) an automated process, and obviously the source is not looked at for each revision of an app. I do however also find the errors by rpmdrake _very_ annoying. Could Mandrake perhaps include a seperate key for signing contrib apps, and give a message (but only once) that the signing only proves that the package was built by Mandrake, nothing else. WDYT? - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+AFZjgzJdfX+cTW8RAtAUAJ0RWdSyILyntWWGm/jtIWgeh2nKJwCgpXS1 oJlAmpLPUBfJUDG7HBf6J0E= =nY2K -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] new cooker install fails during package install
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Installing a new cooker system via ftp fails just after starting to install the packages. It reads the first 50 header files, and then stops giving this output: - -- error ordering package list: (no errror) at /usr/bin/perl-install/pkgs.pm line 996 - - and one is thrown back to the choose packages to install step. If one goes through this step again, this output is displaid: - -- error ordering package list: cannot open Requirename index using db3 - No such file or directory (2) - -- Any ideas what's up? Thanks, Sascha - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+AJu2gzJdfX+cTW8RAsq1AKCHCT4mFDpyVjdxBEcjjOqwq2B3YQCgoXWC 6vGaJ9Dd4iSQR2M6b6LezL0= =RIiE -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] qa using bugzilla
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nice to see Mandrakesoft QA using bugzilla. But wouldn't it make sense to edit their profile so that their reports are confirmed automagically. Sascha - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9/xCjgzJdfX+cTW8RAvpHAJwPlf/0Y7vH+PAcpY1xjsmuzVOCawCeP+Yw y/kaKYpQDb7ErF2kbzxYBUo= =J9I0 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] ignorance...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thats because its: https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/ and not http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/ Sascha On Tuesday 17 December 2002 08:35 pm, David Walser wrote: Speaking of Bugzilla, WTF, and death, is Bugzilla down right now? I get Connection Timed Out on http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/ --- psic4t [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Oden Eriksson wrote: ehm, maybe your MUA is a bit broken. there's still enough messages per day. :) see it here: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cookerr=1b=200212w=2 greets, psic4t. Hi. This list has been dead since more than 2 weeks now, what the fuck is going on? Is bugzilla killing us all? -- Public Key ID: 0x8078B10C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9/0bMgzJdfX+cTW8RAmiDAKCP5SfGhGR4CzWhMx60knAhHgSiYQCfZF0x jImSBmf3Ka21IUpSV/gkmv8= =qjLo -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] gringotts-1.2.2-2mdk
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Hmm, it still doesn't start from the kde pannel. This is the error it gives in
~./xsession-errors:
snip
kio (KLauncher): KLauncher: Got
start_service_by_desktop_path('Applications/File tools/Gringotts.desktop',
...)
kdeinit: Got EXT_EXEC '/usr/bin/gringotts' from launcher.
Could not load library! Trying exec
kio (KLauncher): /usr/bin/gringotts (pid 32032) up and running.
(process:32032): gringotts-CRITICAL **: It isn't possible to redirect data to
stdin, as it is a potential security flaw.
kdeinit: PID 32032 terminated.
/snip
If it's too much trouble, don't bother.
Thanks for your work,
Sascha
On Monday 16 December 2002 09:46 am, Götz Waschk wrote:
[Contrib-RPM]
--=-=-=
Name: gringottsRelocations: (not relocateable)
Version : 1.2.2 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
Release : 2mdk Build Date: Mon Dec 16 10:27:47
2002 Install date: (not installed) Build Host:
klama.mandrake.org Group : File toolsSource RPM:
(none)
Size: 170904 License: GPL
Packager: Götz Waschk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
URL : http://devel.pluto.linux.it/projects/Gringotts/
Summary : An electronic strongbox
Description :
Gringotts is a small but (hopely ;) useful utility that stores sensitive
data (passwords, credit card numbers, girlfriends' addresses) in an
organized, optimized and most of all very secure form.
It uses libGringotts to provide a strong level of encryption, just aiming
to be as trustworthy as possible.
--=-=-=
* Mon Dec 16 2002 Götz Waschk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1.2.2-2mdk
- put the full path into the menu entry
--=-=-=
--=-=-=
gringotts.spec changed
--- gringotts-1.2.2-1mdk.src.rpm/gringotts.spec Mon Dec 16 10:46:38 2002
+++ gringotts-1.2.2-2mdk.src.rpm/gringotts.spec Mon Dec 16 10:46:38 2002
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
%define name gringotts
%define version 1.2.2
-%define release 1mdk
+%define release 2mdk
%define summary An electronic strongbox
Summary: %summary
@@ -47,7 +47,7 @@
section=Applications/File tools\
title=Gringotts\
longtitle=%summary\
-command=%{name}\
+command=%_bindir/%{name}\
icon=%{name}.png
EOF
@@ -88,6 +88,9 @@
%_miconsdir/%name.png
%changelog
+* Mon Dec 16 2002 Götz Waschk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1.2.2-2mdk
+- put the full path into the menu entry
+
* Fri Dec 6 2002 Götz Waschk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1.2.2-1mdk
- new version
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Re: [Cooker] HELLO MANDRAKE - AbiWord Can't Install
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This is the cooker list. It is not a support list by Mandrake. In addition, if you install cooker, it is totally unsupported by Mandrake, as it is in development. Writing all caps is considered to be against netiquette. Sascha Noyes On Monday 16 December 2002 07:03 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got NO response that I can see and this IS a problem so I'll send it againmaybe Mandrake will respond this time... == Original Message Subject: AbiWord Can't Install Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 21:05:08 +1300 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cooker Mandrake [EMAIL PROTECTED] This has been mentioned on the list before and is still not fixed. As of latest cooker, when trying to install AbiWord through URPMI, it says libaspell-common-0.50.2.so is needed by AbiWord-1.0.2-2mdk but when it tries to install it it encounters a package conflict and aborts. I assume this is because libaspell is now past that version. It needs to be fixed I think. I would assume it's just a case of AbiWord needing to be packaged against the new aspell. Ideas?? Cheers Jason - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9/eO+gzJdfX+cTW8RAgl6AJ48ogxUL2sn9aMSTat2ct4qx48ThACfbBmT HhNdrAaMjf5M9iVQiaMLep4= =Txtk -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake and business.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Well said. On Saturday 14 December 2002 03:25 pm, Warly wrote: francesco.melo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i have dvd-r burner ... so for me and i think for other user it is better to have a single big iso in the mirror and burn it in a dvd-+r .. is it possible? Yes. It is possible. But is it interesting for Mandrakesoft? You can do it by yourself, moreover, it is quite simple. The great idea behind our economical model, is that we let for free what we are doing, although we still need to eat, to pay our rents, and even sometimes to get some holidays (this is not necessary for a man to survive, I accept, except maybe regarding gc and snowboard, but it is another story). And users who use it, or like it, can contribute back to mandrake buying a box, subscribing to mandrakeclub, helping a lot on cooker, advocating, pressuring other people to use it, sending food to developers (warning no more nuts, this makes them become fat and inefficient), or whatever. Theoretically this model is ideal. Everyone can try or product for a very little price, either downloading it or finding it in magazine, and contribute what he can afford, or what he thinks that worths. Mandrakelinux 9.0 DVD edition is 60 euros on Mandrakestore. 60 euros! It is so expensive! I can just download the images and burn them on a 10 euros blank DVD! Yes. But what will we earn if I put a DVD image on the mirrors? - You will be happy - You will pay 10 euros for a blank DVD. Most of it go to mitsui or Taiyo Yuden, and if you are in France you even pay some taxes that will go to film or music majors, or even microsoft. Of course we get nothing from these taxes are our products are free. - You have alreay payed 500 euros to sony or yamaha or pioneer for your burner. So the only point for me will be point 1, point 2 and 3 will just made microsoft, sony, vivendi even more powerful, and make our work even harder. I do not care if you are copying tens for divx films and mp3 and windows games and whatever. After all if Mandrakesoft dies it is just that we were not strong enough, or not intelligent enough. Because we did not work as hard as we should, or we were payed to much, or we were too many... Why have you bought a DVD burner for? I could not blame you, I did the same with my first CD burner. Part of the gnu/linux success is because it is free, and because people can get and use it for free. In our world we can get nearly everything with money, and we think that just everything can be compared in terms of dollars or euros. And in this world, gnu/linux distributions are just a good bargain. But it may exists another world where money is not so important, and where you pay with time, with helping others, with not thinking selfishly. In this world, gnu/linux is not free, it is even more expensive than whatever you can afford with money, because it need _you_ to think and act in another way. The world will not change if we do not first change ourselves. - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9+w8fgzJdfX+cTW8RAmHxAJsErhQ2KWecVMoSz4fyK1eFYzBqCACeKjXm o/SwelQ4lHn5IDWTSCE5JiU= =Iup1 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] gringotts doesn't run from kde startmenu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
On Tuesday 10 December 2002 03:37 am, Götz Waschk wrote:
Am Dienstag, 10. Dezember 2002, 20:58:30 Uhr MET, schrieb Sascha Noyes:
Gringotts (contrib app) will not start from the kde startmenu, although
it runs fine from the gnome startmenu or from a terminal. Any ideas?
Unfortunately menudrake is stuffed at the moment, so I wouldn't know how
to provide more info.
Hi,
I don't have KDE installed ATM, so I can't test it. Could you please
take a look at ~/.xsession-errors after trying to start gringotts from
the KDE menu?
CU
Hi,
This is what it gives me:
snip
kio (KLauncher): KLauncher: Got
start_service_by_desktop_path('Applications/File tools/Gringotts.desktop',
...)
kdeinit: Got EXT_EXEC 'gringotts' from launcher.
library=gringotts.la: No file names gringotts.la found in paths.
Could not load library! Trying exec
kio (KLauncher): gringotts (pid 13478) up and running.
(process:13478): gringotts-CRITICAL **: It isn't possible to redirect data to
stdin, as it is a potential security flaw.
kdeinit: PID 13478 terminated.
/snip
Thanks,
Sascha
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Re: [Cooker] When will we get KDE 3.1 RC5 rpms???
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 They're already out. Sascha On Tuesday 10 December 2002 09:34 am, John Allen wrote: -- John Allen, Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE99bbkgzJdfX+cTW8RAok9AJ9nvwTtw/r2iC2kMbK46R9pkiIf/ACfbIZ8 KaZBhM7knjvDNMG4j5S4NMU= =piFj -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] oddities in mandrake bugzilla
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Quite a few of the bug reports on kdebase show the kde version as 3.1-0.rc5.1mdk, even though they were filed months ago, and 3.1-0.rc5.1mdk was released today. What is up with that? eg: bug # 104, 204, 382, but there are others that seem correct: # 527. Any idea what's up? Sascha - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE99fcdgzJdfX+cTW8RAkpTAKCXXMDQkrayPE42RPyMK98L5iykVgCeMLUR VitTlusZfhDYUyPowlmbZqc= =s7wW -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] gringotts doesn't run from kde startmenu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Gringotts (contrib app) will not start from the kde startmenu, although it runs fine from the gnome startmenu or from a terminal. Any ideas? Unfortunately menudrake is stuffed at the moment, so I wouldn't know how to provide more info. Thanks, Sascha Noyes - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE99lV6gzJdfX+cTW8RAroaAJ4llvLzC7ud4/aOsQPlCQD6zPFP5ACfaIWp +aKQ4xBYsLJo/J5IxGEdD+U= =CsiC -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Crypto with fs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You can encrypt a filesystem in harddrake. click toggle to expert mode, and click on options. Unfortunately the password has to be at least 20 character. Sorry, but i just can't put important data on a filesystem encrypted with 20 characters, my memory is just not that good ;-) This has been implemented since 8.1 I think. I have tried every possible way to get the mandrake guys to change the minimum characters down to something sane: emailed cooker list during devel process of 8.1 multiple times emailed cooker list during devel process of 9.0 multiple times submitted it to mandrake-expert submitted a patch to mandrake bugzilla, and... still nothing I guess nobody except me is really interested in it /rant Sascha Noyes On Tuesday 26 November 2002 03:07 pm, Pierre BETOUIN wrote: Is there an equivalent of a patch in order to crypt the fs in RPM for mdk? I'd like to use something like cryptoapi or loop-aes but i've to patch the kernel before... Laptops users could be very interested in this... Here is some docs about it : http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-cryptor=1w=2 http://www.kerneli.org/howto/index.php http://hints.us.linuxfromscratch.org/hints/cryptoapi.txt What do you think of this idea? 8.2 release didn't manage it? I could be proposed as an option (in expert mode). - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE94/JjgzJdfX+cTW8RAhzLAJ40yVBZoufapSDvidIYGngow2vvTQCffal1 MeXBpI8ikHO0ZirM+rbiF4w= =Upmv -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Problem installing abiword
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 same here On Tuesday 26 November 2002 04:11 pm, Pierre wrote: # urpmi abiword installation de /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/abiword-1.0.2-2mdk.i586.rpm L'installation a échoué: libaspell-common-0.50.2.so est nécessaire à abiword-1.0.2-2mdk Pierre. - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE94/KQgzJdfX+cTW8RAgGnAKCNTdXXYIVBTzU3lkTql+Fibo4Z0ACeOVxC tB+gua4UwO6bVFbDVmGmHRk= =6SiT -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] kde 3.1b2 problems
Same here on points 1 2, haven't tried 3. Sascha On Friday 25 October 2002 11:21 am, Mario Vazquez wrote: I have installed kde 3.1b2 rpms to test them and found some problems. 1) Cannot open a konqueror window in SU mode. 2) Log console appear after login out the user. (How can I disable it?) 3) Try to open removable media and sometimes other folders with Cervisa view. Mario _ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp
[Cooker] bug reporting
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi What has been decided by the Mandrake team regarding bug reporting? Is the present mess of: drakbug (http://drakbug.mandrakesoft.com/) bugzilla mandrake expert cooker mailing list going to continue? Thank you, Sascha Noyes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9sEPDgzJdfX+cTW8RAs2aAJ9AqU9u5oToTFgkk0sBizt9Rtt/RwCfZ0iE dxEyOGJCtKhHjhKiHso6zxE= =xyvl -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] please disregard previous post
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Forgot to activate GnuPG in Configue Kmail Security Sascha Noyes On Saturday 12 October 2002 06:00 pm, Sascha Noyes wrote: Hi First of all - I'm not reporting this in bugzilla, as the latest package listed for kde-network in Enter Bug is 3.0.3-15mdk. I would suggest that if you want people to report bugs with bugzilla and not on this mailing list, that you keep bugzilla up-to-date. A simple script that monitors changes to the cooker RPM repository should do. Problem: kdenetwork-3.1-0.beta1.3mdk kmail 1.4.7 When trying to set an OpenPGP key as the one associated with an identity, I get the error message: You either don't have GnuPG/PGP installed or you chose not to use GnuPG/PGP. I do have gnupg installed: [sndbx@localhost sndbx]$ rpm -q gnupg gnupg-1.0.7-3mdk Reproduced bug with kmail started in console, here's the output: - [sndbx@localhost sndbx]$ kmail: ### ### ### parseMsg(KMMessage* aMsg == aMsg, bool onlyProcessHeaders == false ### ### kmail: *no* first body part found, creating one from Message kmail: - Inserting Root Node into the Mime Part Tree kmail: Inserting one item into MimePartTree kmail: Content-Type: text/plain kmail: - Finished inserting Root Node into Mime Part Tree kmail: ** ** KMReaderWin::parseObjectTree( node OK, showOneMimePart: FALSE ) ** ** kmail: * text * kmail: plain kmail: default kmail: KMMsgEncryptionState: 78 kmail: KMMsgSignatureState: 78 kmail: KMReaderWin - finished parsing and displaying of message. khtml (part): DONE: 119 QString::arg(): Argument missing: Custom (Shift+F1 for help), (null) kmail: IdentityPage::setup() kmail: IdentityPage::slotIdentitySelectionChanged( 0x85a2430 ) kmail: slotFontSelectorChanged() called kmail: Profile manager: found 5 profiles: kmail: CryptPlugTab::setup(): found 0 CryptPlugWrappers. libkdenetwork: Kpgp: pgpBase is dummy -- Just out of interest, in future for bugs like these, should cooker testers rather send bug-reports to kde or mandrake? Sascha Noyes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9qX7rgzJdfX+cTW8RArKAAKCPebaYd6OTR5AuMlLq/a+lSfFchwCfXLgK tkCr2q604ORfhf2qDBkWYRE= =4MI+ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] OpenPGP key specification in kmail not working
Hi First of all - I'm not reporting this in bugzilla, as the latest package listed for kde-network in Enter Bug is 3.0.3-15mdk. I would suggest that if you want people to report bugs with bugzilla and not on this mailing list, that you keep bugzilla up-to-date. A simple script that monitors changes to the cooker RPM repository should do. Problem: kdenetwork-3.1-0.beta1.3mdk kmail 1.4.7 When trying to set an OpenPGP key as the one associated with an identity, I get the error message: You either don't have GnuPG/PGP installed or you chose not to use GnuPG/PGP. I do have gnupg installed: [sndbxlocalhost sndbx]$ rpm -q gnupg gnupg-1.0.7-3mdk Reproduced bug with kmail started in console, here's the output: - [sndbxlocalhost sndbx]$ kmail: ### ### ### parseMsg(KMMessage* aMsg == aMsg, bool onlyProcessHeaders == false ### ### kmail: *no* first body part found, creating one from Message kmail: - Inserting Root Node into the Mime Part Tree kmail: Inserting one item into MimePartTree kmail: Content-Type: text/plain kmail: - Finished inserting Root Node into Mime Part Tree kmail: ** ** KMReaderWin::parseObjectTree( node OK, showOneMimePart: FALSE ) ** ** kmail: * text * kmail: plain kmail: default kmail: KMMsgEncryptionState: 78 kmail: KMMsgSignatureState: 78 kmail: KMReaderWin - finished parsing and displaying of message. khtml (part): DONE: 119 QString::arg(): Argument missing: Custom (Shift+F1 for help), (null) kmail: IdentityPage::setup() kmail: IdentityPage::slotIdentitySelectionChanged( 0x85a2430 ) kmail: slotFontSelectorChanged() called kmail: Profile manager: found 5 profiles: kmail: CryptPlugTab::setup(): found 0 CryptPlugWrappers. libkdenetwork: Kpgp: pgpBase is dummy -- Just out of interest, in future for bugs like these, should cooker testers rather send bug-reports to kde or mandrake? Sascha Noyes
Re: [Cooker] repost: follow-up to 9.0 and next
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[Cooker] repost: follow-up to 9.0 and next
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 OK, I think it got lost, posting again... - -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Maybe the Mandrake developers wouldn't mind filling us in on what they have concluded for future cooker testing based on the discussion on this mailing list. To me is seems we need a more unified approach. At the moment people have at their disposal: cooker mailing list bugzilla http://drakbug.mandrakesoft.com/ (what exactly is up with that site?) mandrake expert. This is ever-so-slightly confusing. I think it would be a big bonus if mandrake could clearly state to users which medium to use in which case. It would seem logical to have a unified web-based bug-reporting infrastructure, or is there some reason to keep bugzilla, drakbug and mandrake expert seperate? Also, I would like to know what mandrake policy is on letting people post bug-reports on bugzilla. It seems stupid to have to sign up for an account, and then sign up again in order to post bug-reports. The site says that you should post the bug to mandrake expert. And so i did with two bugs, which have not even been looked at in mandrake expert in 4 days. (#33249 # 33252 - - - the first one is a suggestion that i have posted on cooker mailing list during development of both 8.2 and 9.0, and both times was ignored) It seems to me that the only motivation that a user could have in signing up to bugzilla is to: a) report bugs b) report and help fix bugs. In both cases they would want to report bugs, and therefore should not need to sign up for that priviledge as well. Anyway enough of me talking, I really wanted to hear what mandrakesoft people had to say. I there a clear strategy already? or is it still being debated internally? Sascha Noyes - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9nG9ygzJdfX+cTW8RAnpoAJoDF4hzbDPTk4vJz1xLBVoZkH6F2gCdGEq/ DXAK9h5sXmLhn7FUpwryGnI= =HYu2 - -END PGP SIGNATURE- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9nJ+ogzJdfX+cTW8RAt7hAKCrKmdkUfbujcStUezLavrZOmVgyACgpTQg c5bpIVdpoyLlHfvvA1Qw1nw= =BZh9 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] gnome integrated su
When clicking on the mcc icon on the top taskbar in the gnome environment, one is prompted for root password. But when exiting mcc, and starting it again from the same icon, one is not prompted for a password, this seems to be a pretty serious fault, no? Ok, i checked: this does not happen to any other application besides mcc. And it happens to mcc no matter whether i launch it from the panel or from the simplified menu. Sascha Noyes
[Cooker] hardware database does not list mdk 9.0
Ok, I realise that this is probably not the forum to report this. But seing as everything is pretty much out-of-the-ordinary at this time due to 9.0 release, here goes: The hardware database (http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/hardware.php3) cited in the 9.0 presentation does not have 9.0 available as a selection from the pull-down menu to check for hardware compatability. At worst you could just add a 9.0 entry with the same properties as 8.2 for the time being (if you don't have people to devote to this right now), or at best update the hardware database to reflect the new reality of 9.0 harware compatability. Sascha Noyes
Re: [Cooker] Warly, question....
Check out the discussion thread on this story. It seems final is on mirrors disguised as rc3 !! sneaky :-) Sascha On Tuesday 24 September 2002 12:24 am, tatanka wrote: final is on the mirrors ?? where can it be find ? Wade S Grant wrote: Final is now on the mirrors...CD 3 is much larger than RC3.
Re: [Cooker] Warly, question....
Woops, here's the link: http://www.pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=3353 Sascha On Tuesday 24 September 2002 12:46 am, Sascha Noyes wrote: Check out the discussion thread on this story. It seems final is on mirrors disguised as rc3 !! sneaky :-) Sascha On Tuesday 24 September 2002 12:24 am, tatanka wrote: final is on the mirrors ?? where can it be find ? Wade S Grant wrote: Final is now on the mirrors...CD 3 is much larger than RC3.
Re: [Cooker] Why 700MB CDs there is easyer to write to 650MB and less to download
The interesting question is whether this move is intended to: a: animate people to buy powerpack or prosuite and/or b: save download bandwidth ? Sascha On Friday 06 September 2002 05:52 am, Warly wrote: Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I disagree, IMHO the download CD's should be as complete as possible. For example, AFAIK the 3rd CD of the betas and RC1 has had nearly 200MB of free space left on it while important contrib packages have been left out. This should not be the case. If a 3rd CD is available, it should be full. The 3 download CDs are the exact replication of the 3 standard or powerpack first CDs, except for the 150 MB of commercial apps on the disc 3. As a consequence the download edition will have a CD 3 of 560 MB. Contribs will not the present on the download edition, only main, contribs CD will be available in powerpack and prosuite only. All the packages will be available on the live tree, of course.
Re: [Cooker] Probando MandrakeLinux-9.0 beta4
--running cooker rsync's at: 03:40am GMT 29.08.2002 Hi I also have the same problem, but with me it only happens the first time i boot. On all subsequent boots this does not occur On Thursday 29 August 2002 06:26 am, Tarax wrote: Hi all, I have exactly the same pb: set X to launch automatically during install (got a ATI Radeon 8500 64Mo with XFree86 Radeon driver), the system boots well, kdm appears... and then, wich user account I choose, X starts and a few seconds latter crashes and send me to tty1 with the login prompt. Then, again like Manuel, connecting on tty1 and doing startx X launches and is now running for 3 days without any pbs. In my case, with this last method, I've never had pbs with sound, mouse or internet cnx° Hoping there'll be a fix for this... GREAT WORK GUYS, this 9.0 promises to be a Grand Cru !!! ;-) Jérémie Le Jeudi 29 Août 2002 10:32, manuel a écrit : Hola a todos, perdonad pero me he suscrito a esta lista de correo pues quería probar y colaborar con la nueva versión 9.0 y me es casi imposible pues no se más idiomas que el mio español. No obstante hare lo que esté en mis posibilidades: Problema: Cuando inicia el sistema y lo hace en modo gráfico, Xwindows, en unos 30 segundos se sale a tty1 en modo texto, luego entro con login... pasword... tecleo startx + intro y entra perfectamente aunque unas veces me falla el sonido, otras la conexión red/internet y otras incluso el (mouse ubs rueda). Tambien puedo entrar como root y gdm.
[Cooker] bash history in konsole
--running cooker rsync's at: 13:37am GMT 29.08.2002 Hi when starting konsole, the bash history of the previous session is not displayed (up button) - instead a bell icon appears where the shell icon was. In 8.2 this was not the case, is this deliberate (by the kde team?) or a bug? It was kind of useful. Sascha Noyes
Re: [Cooker] sound doesn't work (yamaha ymf-724 pci)
On Thursday 29 August 2002 11:17 am, Thierry Vignaud wrote: Sascha Noyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: sound does not work, even though alsa is up-and-running. this card worked 'out of the box' with alsa on 8.2. If you need more info ask - i don't know exactly what to provide classic: lspcidrake -v fgrep sound-slot /etc/modules.conf lsmod|fgrep snd fuser -v /dev/dsp aumix -q lspcidrake -v agpgart : Advanced Micro Devices|AMD-751 [Irongate] System Controller [BRIDGE_HOST] (vendor:1022 device:7006) unknown : Advanced Micro Devices|AMD-751 PCI to PCI bridge [BRIDGE_PCI] (vendor:1022 device:7007) unknown : Advanced Micro Devices|AMD-756 PCI to ISA bridge [BRIDGE_ISA] (vendor:1022 device:7408) unknown : Advanced Micro Devices|AMD-756 (Viper) Bus Master IDE controller [STORAGE_IDE] (vendor:1022 device:7409) unknown : Advanced Micro Devices|AMD-756 Power Management Controller [BRIDGE_OTHER] (vendor:1022 device:740b) usb-ohci: Advanced Micro Devices|AMD-756 PCI to USB Open Host Controller [SERIAL_USB] (vendor:1022 device:740c) 8139too : Realtek|RTL-8139 [NETWORK_ETHERNET] (vendor:10ec device:8139) snd-ymfpci : Yamaha Corp|YMF-724 [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO] (vendor:1073 device:0004) Card:RIVA TNT : nVidia Corporation|Riva TNT 128 [DISPLAY_VGA] (vendor:10de device:0020 subv:1102 subd:1015) unknown : Virtual|Hub [] (vendor: device:) Mouse:USB|Wheel : Microsoft Corp.|IntelliMouse Optical [Human Interface Devices|Boot Interface Subclass|Mouse] (vendor:045e device:0040) fgrep sound-slot /etc/modules.conf alias sound-slot-0 ymfpci lsmod|fgrep snd snd-seq-oss26176 0 (unused) snd-seq-midi-event 3208 0 [snd-seq-oss] snd-seq33264 2 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event] snd-pcm-oss36932 0 snd-mixer-oss 9016 1 [snd-pcm-oss] snd-ymfpci 42336 1 snd-pcm55808 0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-ymfpci] snd-opl3-lib5764 0 [snd-ymfpci] snd-hwdep 3840 0 [snd-opl3-lib] snd-timer 9964 0 [snd-seq snd-pcm snd-opl3-lib] snd-mpu401-uart 2752 0 [snd-ymfpci] snd-rawmidi12864 0 [snd-mpu401-uart] snd-seq-device 3836 0 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq snd-opl3-lib snd-rawmidi] snd-ac97-codec 25508 0 [snd-ymfpci] snd24804 0 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-ymfpci snd-pcm snd-opl3-lib snd-hwdep snd-timer snd-mpu401-uart snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device snd-ac97-codec] soundcore 3780 0 [snd] fuser -v /dev/dsp gives no output aumix -q vol 81, 81, P pcm 71, 71 speaker 0, 0 line 0, 0, P mic 0, 0, P cd 81, 81, R igain 0, 0 line1 0, 0, P dig1 100, 100 dig2 100, 100 phin 0, 0, P video 0, 0, P
[Cooker] sound doesn't work (yamaha ymf-724 pci)
--running cooker rsync's at: 13:37am GMT 29.08.2002 Hi sound does not work, even though alsa is up-and-running. this card worked 'out of the box' with alsa on 8.2. If you need more info ask - i don't know exactly what to provide Sascha Noyes
Re: [Cooker] KDE3 in SuSe8.0 as off 22 April
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 13 March 2002 11:27 am, you wrote: On Wednesday 13 March 2002 17:08, you wrote: Is this a show stopper? Is Mdk going to drive into the future from the backseat or at the stearing wheel? This is from LWN. Distributions, March 13 (Wednesday) SuSE has announced that SuSE Linux 8.0 will hit the shelves on April 22. New features include more security products (i.e.IPSec), a three-step installation procedure, and KDE 3. Good luck ... Yeah, I'd like to see them pull that one off! - -- Sascha Noyes OpenPGP public key keyID: 7F9C4D6F - Encrypted mail much preferred -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8j4O4gzJdfX+cTW8RAjwyAKCKltdBmr81LT/y4MS0R1kUB4aHAgCgmudo DIpWd5kEHatINZOU/Q4A1IE= =0Ghq -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] WTF is going on here?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 13 March 2002 05:23 pm, you wrote: just me being stupid here but why don't you rsync... On Wed, 2002-03-13 at 16:07, Peter Ruskin wrote: Mirrors have started from scratch **again** - downloading everything again. With every half hour a new memory leak fixed in KDE - it looks like I'll never get a cooker mirror on my box again (56K modem). -- Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, Wales. AMD Athlon XP 1600+, 512MB RAM. Registered Linux User 219434. Mandrake Linux release 8.1 (Vitamin) Kernel 2.4.8-34.1mdk-win4lin, XFree86 4.1.0, patch level 21mdk. KDE: 2.2.2. Qt: 2.3.2. Up 3 days 22 hours 22 minutes. Rsync is affected aswell. Thank goodness i'm not on a modem anymore. :-) - -- Sascha Noyes OpenPGP public key keyID: 7F9C4D6F - Encrypted mail much preferred -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8j+ErgzJdfX+cTW8RAl7pAKCMf6aYGmX/bJgKeJ8I6aSKMV2POgCeOqNd 44g1Uh+Bhr0ZPK9xu2q7b18= =4f9f -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] KDE3 in SuSe8.0 as off 22 April
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 13 March 2002 05:41 pm, you wrote: ... with users finally installing both and having both of them installed is a disaster. It can't be supported. If you want KDE3 nobody prevents you from downloading it? Might as well put my two sense in. Until late last year I was a SuSE user, so I can't speak from MDK experience, but I can tell you what went on over in the SuSE community. When KDE 2 came out, there was an tremedous amount of disappointment that SuSE hadn't delayed 7.0 for KDE 2. Yes, it worked better for the company to release it ahead of KDE 2, but it was a pain for anyone on a low-band connection (or anyone who was uncomfortable installing KDE) to upgrade later on. The net result? SuSE obviously got such an onslaught of unhappy people that this time around they are waiting for KDE 3. Frankly, there isn't that much that has come out since Mandrake 8.1 that is nearly as exciting as the prospect of KDE 3. While it is certainly more convenient for MandrakeSoft to go ahead and ship a KDE 3-less Mandrake 8.2, most people I know will probably not purchase a distro this spring unless it has KDE 3 included. So, here is where I'm going: Mandrake needs money - they need it soon. Why not include the one updated package that will most likely make people buy more copies of Mandrake? To solve KDE2/3 conflicts make it a mutually exclusive choice during setup - either you go with KDE 2 or KDE 3 - not both. Further more, make the option only available under the Expert install. There - anyone who should care can get KDE 3, anyone who doesn't know the difference won't be affected. -Tim I think if you look at the ratio of people bitching about mdk stability versus those that cry for the newest packages, you'll probably find that there are more people who would like a stable distro. Changeing the policy as to the relationship between kde 2.2.2 / 3.0 rc2 during _feature freeze_ of mandrake beta period is just idiotic, and i don't think that mandrake will do it. What is wrong with downloading kde 3.x from cooker after the 8.2 release. if you want it? - -- Sascha Noyes OpenPGP public key keyID: 7F9C4D6F - Encrypted mail much preferred -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8j+SjgzJdfX+cTW8RAk/aAJ4m/yFVSryrcOZauHP24cQhNGa7JQCfY7hy EM2OiU8EiCIsaBs7YaT4CSA= =01yb -END PGP SIGNATURE-
