Re: CMSP 26. Specify a DLSIP resource

2009-10-11 Thread Zefram
David Golden wrote:
DLSIP codes should be specified in META.* as a resource.

No.  DLSIP was an early attempt at metadata, and should be superseded
by META.  It is not a single piece of information, but an abbreviated
representation of five separate items.  The P item is already covered
by META.  Possibly the DLSI items also should be, as individual items
encoded in the META style.  (D has already been proposed.)  Then one
could generate the DLSIP code from the META file, if really desired.

-zefram


Re: CMSP 26. Specify a DLSIP resource

2009-10-10 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Friday 09 Oct 2009 17:07:40 Ricardo Signes wrote:
 * David Golden xda...@gmail.com [2009-10-09T07:53:50]
 
  26. Specify a DLSIP resource
 
  Proposal:
 
  DLSIP codes should be specified in META.* as a resource.
 
 Alternte proposal:
 
 DLSIP codes should be deleted from the internet and never discussed again
  in polite company.
 
 Opposed.
 

I agree. Opposed. We may have different values for the DLSIP codes (like 
license , resources, an array/hash/set for used languages, a field or keywods 
for the interface style, etc.). But the dlsip field - 
http://search.cpan.org/dlsip - is a very bad idea.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

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Re: CMSP 26. Specify a DLSIP resource

2009-10-10 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Saturday 10 Oct 2009 00:14:35 David E. Wheeler wrote:
 On Oct 9, 2009, at 8:34 AM, Tim Bunce wrote:
  I think DLSIP codes (which you can blame me for, along with much else
  besides :) should be deprecated in favor of individual metadata
  elements.
 
  It should be possible to generate a DLSIP-like code from the metadata.
 
 +1 to this suggestion.
 

+1 too, as I noted earlier.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

 David
 

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Re: CMSP 26. Specify a DLSIP resource

2009-10-09 Thread Hans Dieter Pearcey
Excerpts from David Golden's message of Fri Oct 09 07:53:50 -0400 2009:
 26. Specify a DLSIP resource
 
 Proposal:
 
 DLSIP codes should be specified in META.* as a resource.

My impression of DLSIP is that it's nearly as unused as the modules list.  Is
this inaccurate?

hdp.


Re: CMSP 26. Specify a DLSIP resource

2009-10-09 Thread Steffen Mueller

Hans Dieter Pearcey wrote:

Excerpts from David Golden's message of Fri Oct 09 07:53:50 -0400 2009:

26. Specify a DLSIP resource

Proposal:

DLSIP codes should be specified in META.* as a resource.


My impression of DLSIP is that it's nearly as unused as the modules list.  Is
this inaccurate?


I don't think so. Hence: -1

Steffen


Re: CMSP 26. Specify a DLSIP resource

2009-10-09 Thread Ricardo Signes
* David Golden xda...@gmail.com [2009-10-09T07:53:50]
 26. Specify a DLSIP resource
 
 Proposal:
 
 DLSIP codes should be specified in META.* as a resource.

Alternte proposal: 

DLSIP codes should be deleted from the internet and never discussed again in
polite company.

Opposed.

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rjbs


Re: CMSP 26. Specify a DLSIP resource

2009-10-09 Thread Curtis Jewell


On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 16:45 +0200, Steffen Mueller
nj88ud...@sneakemail.com wrote:
 Hans Dieter Pearcey wrote:
  Excerpts from David Golden's message of Fri Oct 09 07:53:50 -0400 2009:
  26. Specify a DLSIP resource
 
  Proposal:
 
  DLSIP codes should be specified in META.* as a resource.
  
  My impression of DLSIP is that it's nearly as unused as the modules list.  
  Is
  this inaccurate?
 
 I don't think so. Hence: -1
 
 Steffen

Yowch!

I agree with one thing. The module list needs murdered.  That does not
mean that either the DLSIP code, or an expanded version of the
information provided by same, needs to die with it (because the module
list is the only official way of declaring the DLSIP code at present)

I made this proposal as a minimum-change way of declaring the DLSIP
code for the module.

Maybe what I should have done instead is proposed additional enumeration
keys for the L, S, and I parts of it. (D and P are covered by other
proposals.)

Too late now?

--Curtis

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Re: CMSP 26. Specify a DLSIP resource

2009-10-09 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:53 AM, David Golden xda...@gmail.com wrote:
 26. Specify a DLSIP resource

 Proposal:

 DLSIP codes should be specified in META.* as a resource.

-1

-- David


Re: CMSP 26. Specify a DLSIP resource

2009-10-09 Thread David E. Wheeler

On Oct 9, 2009, at 8:34 AM, Tim Bunce wrote:


I think DLSIP codes (which you can blame me for, along with much else
besides :) should be deprecated in favor of individual metadata  
elements.


It should be possible to generate a DLSIP-like code from the metadata.


+1 to this suggestion.

David