Re: NY Times reports: Documents show link between ATT and NSA
On 4/13/06, Perry E. Metzger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/13/us/nationalspecial3/13nsa.html [...] Now Mr. Klein and a few company documents he saved have emerged as key elements in a class-action lawsuit filed against ATT on Jan. 31 by a civil liberties group, the Electronic Frontier Foundation. The suit accuses the company of helping the security agency invade its customers' privacy. Am I wrong or if we were living in a DRM- or Trusted Computing- World, those documents probably would be unreadable, if they were digital documents? Also they could have prevented printing of the documents, and so on. Of course, the human is still the weaker ring, but this is not of much help in such cases. -- :lorenzo grespan GPG Key fingerprint = 5372 1B49 9E61 747C FB9A 4DAE 5D2A A9A0 74B4 8F1A - The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending unsubscribe cryptography to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NY Times reports: Documents show link between ATT and NSA
in this case, poorly chosen example. it's hard to not print documents used by the technician(s) to install splitters in the fibers and specify the details of wiring in and between various racks and cabinets. On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 08:04:07PM +0200, lorenzo wrote: On 4/13/06, Perry E. Metzger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/13/us/nationalspecial3/13nsa.html [...] Now Mr. Klein and a few company documents he saved have emerged as key elements in a class-action lawsuit filed against ATT on Jan. 31 by a civil liberties group, the Electronic Frontier Foundation. The suit accuses the company of helping the security agency invade its customers' privacy. Am I wrong or if we were living in a DRM- or Trusted Computing- World, those documents probably would be unreadable, if they were digital documents? Also they could have prevented printing of the documents, and so on. Of course, the human is still the weaker ring, but this is not of much help in such cases. -- :lorenzo grespan GPG Key fingerprint = 5372 1B49 9E61 747C FB9A 4DAE 5D2A A9A0 74B4 8F1A - The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending unsubscribe cryptography to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending unsubscribe cryptography to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NY Times reports: Documents show link between ATT and NSA
lorenzo writes: Am I wrong or if we were living in a DRM- or Trusted Computing- World, those documents probably would be unreadable, if they were digital documents? Also they could have prevented printing of the documents, and so on. Consider the massive effort Daniel Ellsberg undertook when leaking the Pentagon Papers. He had to photcopy tons of stuff. If you had a DRM'd document that you couldn't print or email out, you could use your camera to take a picture of the document on your computer's display. (For example.) -- https://www.eff.org/about/staff/#chris_palmer pgpkJ7wgNaxvV.pgp Description: PGP signature
