Watermarking...

2010-04-20 Thread Massimiliano Pala

Hi all,

I was wondering if any of you have some pointers on the security of
watermarking. In particular I am interested in public-key or asymmetric
watermarking algorithms.

Also, do you know of any free-to-use (opensource/etc.) implementation
that can be used for research-test purposes ?

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Re: Watermarking...

2010-04-20 Thread Alfonso De Gregorio

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:29 AM, Massimiliano Pala
p...@cs.dartmouth.edu wrote:

Hi all,

I was wondering if any of you have some pointers on the security of
watermarking. In particular I am interested in public-key or asymmetric
watermarking algorithms.


Ciao Massimiliano,

You might be interesting in checking out the deliverables of BOWS contests at:
http://bows2.gipsa-lab.inpg.fr/ and http://lci.det.unifi.it/BOWS/


Also, do you know of any free-to-use (opensource/etc.) implementation
that can be used for research-test purposes ?

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   Massimiliano Pala


From a cursory look at bookmarks...
- Peter Meerwald's implementation of digital image watermarking algorithms.
- Microsoft Audio Watermarking Tool
http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/downloads/885bb5c4-ae6d-418b-97f9-adc9da8d48bd/default.aspx

Cheers,

alfonso

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Re: Watermarking...

2010-04-20 Thread Massimiliano Pala

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Hello Sandy, all,

basically what I need is a library that will allow me to check for
a watermark into an image/video/etc. It could be different algorithms
for different media type - my work is not related to the algorithms
themselves.

The important issues are:
* the algorithm(s) should be based on public key (asymmetric)

* my program should be able to verify that a watermark exists and
   has been generated with a private key corresponding to a specific
   public key

* an attacker should not be able to add a watermark that my app
   would recognize as valid (ie., the verification would fail when
   using my app's public key if an attacker tries to substitute
   the watermark)

* if the watermark is removed/altered/substituted I should be able
   to detect it

* the watermark should be invisible

Do you know if/where can I find some libraries that provides me with
some implementation of one or more algorithms that satisfy my needs ?
I know there are a lot of publications about these algorithms, but
I need a usable (also if not perfect) implementation.. preferably
written in C/C++

Cheers,
Max


On 04/20/2010 09:49 AM, Sandy Harris wrote:

What are your threat model and goals for the watermarking?

Some watermarks -- like the photographer's copyright notice across
a web picture -- are designed to be extremely visible. The whole
idea is that if anyone steals the photo, everyone will know.

For other threats, you might want a watermark to be completely
invisible, perhaps even undetectable without some sort of key.

Does it need to be tamper-resistant or unremovable?




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Massimiliano Pala

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Re: Watermarking...

2010-04-20 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik

On 19 Apr 2010, at 23:29, Massimiliano Pala wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I was wondering if any of you have some pointers on the security of
 watermarking. In particular I am interested in public-key or asymmetric
 watermarking algorithms.
 
 Also, do you know of any free-to-use (opensource/etc.) implementation
 that can be used for research-test purposes ?

I found:

http://techrepublic.com.com/1324-4-55.html
PKI based Semi-Fragile Watermark for Visual Content Authentication 
Chamidu Atupelage, Koichi Harada, Member, ACM

of use and easily hacked up.

Dw

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