[CTRL] INTERNATIONAL CORRIDOR CUTS THE US IN HALF (repost)

1999-06-30 Thread Bill Kingsbury

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 From: "Bobby G. Christian" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999
 Subj: SNET: INTERNATIONAL CORRIDOR CUTS THE US IN HALF

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 A short time ago I uncovered some amazing and perplexing
 information that will effect this entire nation.


 AN INTERNATIONAL TRADE CORRIDOR, MILES WIDE,
 WILL CUT THE U.S. IN HALF.

 by Bobby G. Christian

 According to Federal and State Department of Transportation
 officials I talked with, and the public documents that I obtained
 from them, Highways I-35, I-94, I-29 have been designated by the
 United Nations World Trade Organization as "Main International
 Nafta/Gatt Trade Corridor Highways" connecting a spider web of
 "international" trade corridor highways the will blanket the entire
 United States.

 The main "international trade corridor highways" will cross Mexico,
 the U.S., and Canada.  Though built on sovereign U.S. soil these
 "international corridor highways" will be constructively under the
 control of the U.N. through the W.T.O.

 Federal legislation to implement this designation, that turns many
 U.S. highways into "international" highways, was "hidden" in
 various bills that have been passed by our Congress and signed into
 law by Bill Clinton.  The "T.E.A. 21 Act", and the "National
 Highway System Act of 1995" are among these bills.

 U.S. Senator John Ashcroft was recently on television in Missouri
 saying that he will work to see that Kansas City Missouri will
 become "the international trade center and International trade port
 of the United States".  (Missourians have recently found that
 Ashcroft isn't the great american that the people thought they
 were putting into office.)

 The "right-of-way" for the "main international corridor highways"
 will be as much as 4 miles wide to accommodate what will ultimately
 be 12 lane highways with a railroad system that will parallel the
 highways.

 "DOT lawyers will "acquire" the land for these right-of-ways.
 (good bye to a lot of good farmland and small towns.  What ever
 happened to our national sovereignty and our constitutional rights
 including private property rights?)

 Construction on the larger main corridor has already started in
 Southern Texas.  Studies show Projected traffic estimates are as
 high as 280,000 foreign load trucks a day will use these corridors.
 (increased drug traffic, smoke, dust, illegal aliens, more disease,
 foreign bandits - Whee I can't wait can you?)  Many foreign trucks
 are using the existing highways in the trade corridor right now.

 Many of the foreign trucks carry uninspected "sealed cargo
 containers" off of foreign ships, including Communist Chinese
 ships.  The rail roads in Kansas City Missouri have stacks and
 stacks of sealed Red Chinese cargo containers setting along the
 tracks waiting to be placed on trucks.  I have seen these with
 my own eyes.

 The people that Bill Clinton calls "our trade partners", the Red
 Chinese, are, even now, using these corridors extensively.  Never
 mind that, according to the CIA, the Red Chinese trade company,
 COSCO, is a branch of the communist Chinese Military and that every
 person working for COSCO is a communist espionage agent capable of
 sabotage, espionage, and murder.  Never mind that the Red Chinese,
 with the help of Bill Clinton, has "acquired" almost all of our
 military secrets and are at present building the largest military
 force that the world has ever seen, and is preparing that force
 for offensive action.  Never mind that the Chinese Communists are
 the most blood thirsty, savage, murderers of innocent people in
 the modern world.  Our government gives them free access to carry
 "uninspected, sealed cargo containers" up and down our highways.
 God only knows what these sealed containers contain.  Suitcase
 atomic bombs?  Biological or chemical weapons?  [Invasion troops?
 Heroin?]  No one knows for sure what the sealed containers have
 in them.  They are sealed in Red China and unsealed in the Cosco
 warehouses.

 One high level DOT worker that I talked with said.  "Ron Slater,
 one of those crooked Arkansas politicians that Bill Clinton took
 with him to Washington, was appointed by Bill as The Secretary of
 Transportation and it is his group that is forcing the states to
 expedite the creation of these international trade corridor
 highways" (Now we know another reason why the communist chinese
 gave Bill Clinton so much money as "campaign contributions".)

 The main highways of the international trade corridor start at
 the Mexican border and go North across Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas,
 Missouri, Iowa, and Minnesota, the heartland states, and end in
 upper Canada.  In other words, this "INTERNATIONAL" corridor, under
 constructive control of the U.N. bureaucrats, bisects (cuts in
 half) the United States.  What a gift to any military enemy, say
 the Red Chinese, to have the center of the U.S., from the Southern
 border to the Northern border, under constructive 

Re: [CTRL] THE 16 CRITICAL FACTS THAT YOUR KIDS WILL NOT LEARN IN ...

1999-06-30 Thread Das GOAT

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In a message dated 99-06-29 20:06:46 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

while "white" America is always
talking about all those, " poor, needy non-white peoples" and how much help
they need, they never seem to care about the "poor, needy non-white peoples"
here in their very own country!!!

Not to mention the "poor, needy, WHITE people" in America itself !!

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Re: [CTRL] ACC Roswell

1999-06-30 Thread Das GOAT

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Damned INTRIGUING article ...

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Re: [CTRL] NO MANDATE: To vote or not to vote in 2000.

1999-06-30 Thread Das GOAT

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In a message dated 99-06-29 23:59:06 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Ah, now we get to the heart of the matter: politics is corrupting.
But politics is also "the art of the achievable".  Thus, to achieve
anything, one must be corrupted.  Thus, the pure at heart can't
achieve anything, are impotent.  So one has a choice: remain pure,
stick to ideals, remain uncorrupted -- and powerless.  Or, make
compromises, take filthy coin, feed at the Devil's tit -- and
accomplish something.  What's your preference?

What has "politics" ever accomplished?
(For anyone other than "politicians" and the rich who buy and sell 'em, I
mean.)

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Re: [CTRL] (Fwd) ZNet Commentary June 30 Jim Hightower

1999-06-30 Thread Das GOAT

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In a message dated 99-06-30 01:31:03 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

One thing we do know is that the first
fund-raising event for DeLay's new fund was held on the Devos family
yacht. This family, which owns Amway, gave the GOP a million bucks in '98
. . . and got a special, $19 million tax loophole in return.

THE highest profit ratios for capital investment are to be found in illegal
armaments, illegal drugs, and apparently now, "legal" campaign contributions.


For those much too concerned with their public image to invest cash DIRECTLY
in the "underground stock market" of guns and drugs for the fastest and most
exorbitant return, buying a share of a senator, congressman, or president
pays off rather well.

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[CTRL] (1/2) No News is Bad News (1998)

1999-06-30 Thread Das GOAT

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Project Censored's list of
THE 10 MOST CENSORED STORIES OF 1998.

 (The following stories, plus timely articles and reviews and
resource guide, are included in "Project Censored Yearbook:
Censored 1998: The News That Didn't Make the News," by Peter
Phillips and Project Censored, ISBN 1-888363-64-9, $16.95 (UK
11.99)(Cdn $23.95).  Copies can be ordered at your local
bookstore or by contacting Project Censored at 707-664-2500
(16.95 + 3.00 SH).

Some developments in the course of history have such potential to
impact nations and humans that it would be  irresponsible to
ignore them.  Yet few mainstream news organizations  have
reported on the Multilateral Agreement on Investment (MAI), which
would set in place a vast series of protections for foreign
investment.  According to reports in the alternative press, the
MAI would threaten  national sovereignty by giving corporations
near equal rights to  nations. This agreement has the potential
to place profits ahead of  human rights and social justice, and
that is why our judges named this story the No.1 censored or
under reported story of 1998.
 MAI, hatched in secret negotiations that began in 1995 among
the  U.S. and 28 other nations, could thrust the world economy
closer to a  system where international corporate capital would
hold free reign over  the democratic values and socioeconomic
needs of people. The MAI will  also have devastating effects on a
nation's legal, environmental and  cultural sovereignty.
 It will force countries to relax or nullify  human,
environmental and labor protection to attract investment and
trade. Necessary measures such as food subsidies, control of land
speculation, agrarian reform and health and environmental
standards can  be challenged as "illegal." This same illegality
is extended to  community control of forests, local bans on use
of pesticides, clean  air standards, limits on mineral, gas and
oil extraction, and bans on  toxic dumping.
 The apparent goal of the latest international trade
negotiations  is to safeguard multinational corporate investments
by eliminating  democratic regulatory control by nation states
and local governments,  the authors report.
 More radical than NAFTA or GATT, MAI would thrust the world
much  closer to a transnational laissez-faire system where
international  corporate capital would hold free reign over the
democratic wishes and  socioeconomic needs of people.

 Mostly ignored by mainstream press, coverage of this issue
was offered in the following sources: IN THESE TIMES, "Building
the Global  Economy," Jan. 11, 1998, by Joel Bleifuss; DEMOCRATIC
LEFT, "MAI  Ties," Spring 1998, by Bill Dixon; TRIBUNE DES DRIOTS
HUMAINS, "Human  Rights or Corporate Rights?" April 1998, Volume
5, No.s 1-2, by Miloon  Kothari and Tara Krause.


MOST CENSORED STORIES OF 1998

No. 1. SECRET INTERNATIONAL TRADE AGREEMENT UNDERMINES THE
SOVEREIGNTY OF NATIONS:

 Some developments in the course of History have such
potential to impact  nations and humans that it would be
irresponsible to ignore them. Yet few  mainstream news
organizations have reported on the Multilateral Agreement  on
Investment (MAI), which would set in place a vast series of
protections  for foreign investment. According to reports in the
alternative press, the MAI would threaten national sovereignty by
giving corporations near  equal rights to nations. This agreement
has the potential to place  profits ahead of human rights and
social justice, and that is why our  judges named this story the
No.1 censored or under reported story of 1998.
 MAI would thrust the world economy much closer to a system
where  international corporate capital would hold free reign over
the democratic  values and socioeconomic needs of people. The MAI
will also have devastating  effects on a nation's legal,
environmental and cultural sovereignty. It will  force countries
to relax or nullify human, environmental and labor protection  to
attract investment and trade. Necessary measures such as food
subsidies,  control of land speculation, agrarian reform and
health and environmental  standards can be challenged as
"illegal" under the MAI. This same illegality  is extended to
community control of forests, local bans on use of pesticides,
clean air standards, limits on mineral, gas and oil extraction,
and bans on  toxic dumping.

 Sources: IN THESE TIMES, "Building the Global Economy,"
January 11, 1998,  by Joel Bleifuss; DEMOCRATIC LEFT, "MAI Ties,"
Spring 1998, by Bill Dixon;  TRIBUNE DES DRIOTS HUMAINS, "Human
Rights or Corporate Rights?" April 1998,  Volume 5, No.s 1-2,
"Giving The World Away" by Elaine Weinreb, Vol 27, No 11
'ECONEWS' December 1997


No. 2. CHEMICAL CORPORATIONS PROFIT OFF BREAST CANCER:

 In one of the more cynical examples of corporate
profit-making ingenuity, leaders in cancer treatment and
information are the same chemical companies that  also produce
carcinogenic products.
 Breast 

[CTRL] (2/2) No News is Bad News (1998)

1999-06-30 Thread Das GOAT

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 TOP 25 "CENSORED" STORIES OF 1998  cont'd

No. 8  NO MERCY FOR WOMEN AS CATHOLIC HOSPITAL MERGERS THREATEN
REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS:

 Nationwide hospital mergers with Roman Catholic  church
medical facilities are threatening women's access to abortions,
sterilization, birth control, in vitro fertilization, fetal
tissue  experimentation, and assisted suicide. In 1996, over 600
hospitals merged  with Catholic institutions in 19 states. The
merged partnerships extend from  Portland, Maine, to Oakland,
Calif., and these mergers and partnerships with  hospitals and
health maintenance organizations (HMOs) are resulting in the
impairment of reproductive health care rights across the nation.
 Ms. gives the example of Kingston Hospital in Rhinebeck,
N.Y. Kingston  once performed about I00 abortions a year, but if
merged with Benedictine  Hospital, a Roman Catholic facility, it
will provide the service for medical  reasons only. No hospital
in the community would provide birth control counseling  or
family planning services. Collaborations between secular and
Roman Catholic  hospitals have made the Roman Catholic Church the
largest private health care  provider in the nation. Why would
they want to join forces with secular hospitals?
 "The big money in the hospital comes when you have a closed
system of doctors,  HMO'S, and hospitals all feeding each other
in a closed loop," writes Dinsmore.
 Though activists object to partnerships between religious
and secular hospitals  that result in the ban of reproductive
services, they are sometimes willing  to accept lesser
collaborations, such as joint ventures or affiliations, in  which
it's more likely religious directives won't be imposed. In
response to  community pressure, some health care agreements have
resulted in independently  run women's health clinics. Some
activists, however, say it's a lousy solution  because separate
women's health clinics are often easier targets for
anti-abortion extremists.

 Source: Ms.,"Women's Health: A Casualty of Hospital Merger
Mania?"  July/August 1998, BY Christine Dinsmore

No. 9 U. S. TAX DOLLARS SUPPORT DEATH SQUADS IN CHIAPAS:

 On December 22, 1997, in the village of Acteal, in the
highlands of  the Mexican state of Chiapas, 45 local men, women
and children were  shot as they were praying. Their bodies were
dumped into a ravine.  Elsewhere throughout the state of Chiapas,
unarmed women face down  armies "with fists held high in
rebellion and babies slung from their  shoulder." In Jalisco,
more than a dozen young men were kidnaped and  tortured. One of
them, Salvador Jimenez Lopez, drowned in his own  blood when his
tongue was cut out. The group responsible for these  and other
atrocities are allegedly members of the Mexican Army Airborne
Special Forces Groups (GAFE)-a paramilitary unit trained by U.S.
Army Special Forces.
 Mexican soldiers are being trained with U.S. tax dollars to
fight an alleged" War on Drugs, but peasants activists say the
real  motive driving the U.S.-supported war is the protection of
foreign  investment rights in Mexico. "In Chiapas, U.S. tax money
pays for  weapons and military ... to destroy a movement for
social justice  ... . The United States transfers aid to the
Mexican military in  cash, weapons and comterinsurgency training.
The 1998 Clinton  administration budget earmarked more than $21
million dollars for  the Mexican Drug War, including $12 million
for Pentagon training  in "procedures for fighting drug traffic."
Anti-drug effort seems  to continue to focus on the Chiapas
region where 80 percent of  the communities are in conflict
zones. According to the Zapatismo  Papers (Wood), acts of
inhumanity by GAFE were led by Lt. Col.  Julian Guerrero Barrios,
a 1981 graduate of the U.S.-sponsored  School of Americas (SOA).
Although it remains unknown how many of  the 15 soldiers charged
in the Acteal incident were trained at  U.S. bases, the Pentagon
has admitted that some of the soldiers  arrested were U.S.
trained.

 Sources: SLINGSHOT, "Mexico's Military: Made in the USA,"
Summer 1998, by Slingshot collective; DARK NIGHT FIELD
NOTES/ZAPATISMO,  "Bury My Heart At Acteal," by Darrin Wood.

No. 10 WHAT PRICE, CHEAP OIL?  ENVIRONMENTAL STUDENT ACTIVISTS
GUNNED DOWN ON CHEVRON OIL FACILITY IN NIGERIA:

 For three days last may, 121 youths from 42 different
communities  had gathered to oppose the environmental destruction
brought on by  Chevron's oil extraction practices. For decades,
the people of the Niger  Delta have been protesting the
destruction of their wet lands. Discharges  into the creeks and
waterways have left the region a dead land, resulting  in the
Niger Delta becoming one of the most heavily polluted regions in
the  world.
 The students claim they had voiced their concerns many times
and had  scheduled a number of meetings with the company, but the
meetings had been  repeatedly canceled by Chevron. As a next
step, the students 

Re: [CTRL] NO MANDATE: To vote or not to vote in 2000.

1999-06-30 Thread Ric Carter

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From: Das GOAT [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Ah, now we get to the heart of the matter: politics is corrupting.
 But politics is also "the art of the achievable".  Thus, to achieve
 anything, one must be corrupted.  Thus, the pure at heart can't
 achieve anything, are impotent.  So one has a choice: remain pure,
 stick to ideals, remain uncorrupted -- and powerless.  Or, make
 compromises, take filthy coin, feed at the Devil's tit -- and
 accomplish something.  What's your preference?

 What has "politics" ever accomplished?
 (For anyone other than "politicians" and the rich who buy and
 sell 'em, I mean.)

Physical infrastructure: US interstate highway system; TVA and
Bonneville power systems; every gov't construction project, which
fatten politicos  contractors as well as providing artifacts of
some use to the taxpaying public.

Other systems: public primary/secondary schools and universities;
Social Security / Medicare / public-health systems; Marshall Plan;
GI Bill [which funded education and home ownership for millions of
Americans]; military/space programs [which funded microelectronics
development and the internet we're chattering on now]; FDA [which
greatly reduced the proliferation of rotten foods and adulterated
drugs that swamped the US a century ago].

Yup, 'politics' sucks.  But when you have a few hundred million
people divided into some millions of public and private groups,
all pushing their own interests, you need *some* mechanism for
balancing those interests.  Here, we elect and bribe advocates;
it's messy, but it generally works.  Still, imperial China had
a good control system: for a gov't officer to rise in rank, he
had to defame and ruin his superior, to be promoted to his office.
This tended to weed-out the bureaucrats who weren't smart enough
to cover up adequately.

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[CTRL] It's Been Decided Already

1999-06-30 Thread Steve Wingate

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The American people (sheeple?) are just starting to figure out that Clinton
is not a good puppy. Now we are seeing the same media love affair with
Bush, Jr. as we saw with Clinton a few short years ago. How soon we
forget.

Bush has a few skeletons in his closet as well. But we will forgive him, like
we forgave Clinton, because the 'powers that be' have decided that is what
we will decide.

Do you know who will be the next President? The Bilderburgers, and their
controllers, have already dedided this for us.

Can we say DEMOCRACY? No?

Steve


Steve Wingate

California Director
SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL

Anomalous Images and UFO Files
http://www.anomalous-images.com

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[CTRL] Fw: IUFO: INTERNATIONAL CORRIDOR CUTS THE US IN HALF (repost) (fwd)

1999-06-30 Thread Nicky Molloy

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Subject: IUFO: INTERNATIONAL CORRIDOR CUTS THE US IN HALF (repost) (fwd)



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This one actually made me cringe:

From: "Bobby G. Christian" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999
Subj: SNET: INTERNATIONAL CORRIDOR CUTS THE US IN HALF

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A short time ago I uncovered some amazing and perplexing
information that will effect this entire nation.


AN INTERNATIONAL TRADE CORRIDOR, MILES WIDE,
WILL CUT THE U.S. IN HALF.

by Bobby G. Christian

According to Federal and State Department of Transportation
officials I talked with, and the public documents that I obtained
from them, Highways I-35, I-94, I-29 have been designated by the
United Nations World Trade Organization as "Main International
Nafta/Gatt Trade Corridor Highways" connecting a spider web of
"international" trade corridor highways the will blanket the entire
United States.

The main "international trade corridor highways" will cross Mexico,
the U.S., and Canada.  Though built on sovereign U.S. soil these
"international corridor highways" will be constructively under the
control of the U.N. through the W.T.O.

Federal legislation to implement this designation, that turns many
U.S. highways into "international" highways, was "hidden" in
various bills that have been passed by our Congress and signed into
law by Bill Clinton.  The "T.E.A. 21 Act", and the "National
Highway System Act of 1995" are among these bills.

U.S. Senator John Ashcroft was recently on television in Missouri
saying that he will work to see that Kansas City Missouri will
become "the international trade center and International trade port
of the United States".  (Missourians have recently found that
Ashcroft isn't the great american that the people thought they
were putting into office.)

The "right-of-way" for the "main international corridor highways"
will be as much as 4 miles wide to accommodate what will ultimately
be 12 lane highways with a railroad system that will parallel the
highways.

"DOT lawyers will "acquire" the land for these right-of-ways.
(good bye to a lot of good farmland and small towns.  What ever
happened to our national sovereignty and our constitutional rights
including private property rights?)

Construction on the larger main corridor has already started in
Southern Texas.  Studies show Projected traffic estimates are as
high as 280,000 foreign load trucks a day will use these corridors.
(increased drug traffic, smoke, dust, illegal aliens, more disease,
foreign bandits - Whee I can't wait can you?)  Many foreign trucks
are using the existing highways in the trade corridor right now.

Many of the foreign trucks carry uninspected "sealed cargo
containers" off of foreign ships, including Communist Chinese
ships.  The rail roads in Kansas City Missouri have stacks and
stacks of sealed Red Chinese cargo containers setting along the
tracks waiting to be placed on trucks.  I have seen these with
my own eyes.

The people that Bill Clinton calls "our trade partners", the Red
Chinese, are, even now, using these corridors extensively.  Never
mind that, according to the CIA, the Red Chinese trade company,
COSCO, is a branch of the communist Chinese Military and that every
person working for COSCO is a communist espionage agent capable of
sabotage, espionage, and murder.  Never mind that the Red Chinese,
with the help of Bill Clinton, has "acquired" almost all of our
military secrets and are at present building the largest military
force that the world has ever seen, and is preparing that force
for offensive action.  Never mind that the Chinese Communists are
the most blood thirsty, savage, murderers of innocent people in
the modern world.  Our government gives them free access to carry
"uninspected, sealed cargo containers" up and down our highways.
God only knows what these sealed containers contain.  Suitcase
atomic bombs?  Biological or chemical weapons?  [Invasion troops?
Heroin?]  No one knows for sure what the sealed containers have
in them.  They are sealed in Red China and unsealed in the Cosco
warehouses.

One high level DOT worker that I talked with said.  "Ron Slater,
one of those crooked Arkansas politicians that Bill Clinton took
with him to Washington, was appointed by Bill as The Secretary of
Transportation and it is his group that is forcing the states to
expedite the creation of these international trade corridor
highways" (Now we know another reason why the communist chinese
gave Bill Clinton so much money as "campaign contributions".)

The main highways of the international trade corridor start at
the Mexican border and go North across Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas,
Missouri, Iowa, and Minnesota, the heartland states, and end in
upper Canada.  In other words, this "INTERNATIONAL" corridor, under
constructive control of the U.N. bureaucrats, bisects 

Re: [CTRL] INTERNATIONAL CORRIDOR CUTS THE US IN HALF

1999-06-30 Thread Steve Wingate

 -Caveat Lector-

On 30 Jun 99, at 3:15, MICHAEL SPITZER wrote:

 This one actually made me cringe:

Another one was Klinton's complaining recently that some people actually
accused him of MURDER!!!

Well I never...

Steve

  From: "Bobby G. Christian" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999
  Subj: SNET: INTERNATIONAL CORRIDOR CUTS THE US IN HALF

  -  SNETNEWS  Mailing List
  A short time ago I uncovered some amazing and perplexing
  information that will effect this entire nation.


  AN INTERNATIONAL TRADE CORRIDOR, MILES WIDE,
  WILL CUT THE U.S. IN HALF.

  by Bobby G. Christian

  According to Federal and State Department of Transportation
  officials I talked with, and the public documents that I obtained
  from them, Highways I-35, I-94, I-29 have been designated by the
  United Nations World Trade Organization as "Main International
  Nafta/Gatt Trade Corridor Highways" connecting a spider web of
  "international" trade corridor highways the will blanket the entire
  United States.

  The main "international trade corridor highways" will cross Mexico,
  the U.S., and Canada.  Though built on sovereign U.S. soil these
  "international corridor highways" will be constructively under the
  control of the U.N. through the W.T.O.

  Federal legislation to implement this designation, that turns many
  U.S. highways into "international" highways, was "hidden" in
  various bills that have been passed by our Congress and signed into
  law by Bill Clinton.  The "T.E.A. 21 Act", and the "National
  Highway System Act of 1995" are among these bills.

  U.S. Senator John Ashcroft was recently on television in Missouri
  saying that he will work to see that Kansas City Missouri will
  become "the international trade center and International trade port
  of the United States".  (Missourians have recently found that
  Ashcroft isn't the great american that the people thought they
  were putting into office.)

  The "right-of-way" for the "main international corridor highways"
  will be as much as 4 miles wide to accommodate what will ultimately
  be 12 lane highways with a railroad system that will parallel the
  highways.

  "DOT lawyers will "acquire" the land for these right-of-ways.
  (good bye to a lot of good farmland and small towns.  What ever
  happened to our national sovereignty and our constitutional rights
  including private property rights?)

  Construction on the larger main corridor has already started in
  Southern Texas.  Studies show Projected traffic estimates are as
  high as 280,000 foreign load trucks a day will use these corridors.
  (increased drug traffic, smoke, dust, illegal aliens, more disease,
  foreign bandits - Whee I can't wait can you?)  Many foreign trucks
  are using the existing highways in the trade corridor right now.

  Many of the foreign trucks carry uninspected "sealed cargo
  containers" off of foreign ships, including Communist Chinese
  ships.  The rail roads in Kansas City Missouri have stacks and
  stacks of sealed Red Chinese cargo containers setting along the
  tracks waiting to be placed on trucks.  I have seen these with
  my own eyes.

  The people that Bill Clinton calls "our trade partners", the Red
  Chinese, are, even now, using these corridors extensively.  Never
  mind that, according to the CIA, the Red Chinese trade company,
  COSCO, is a branch of the communist Chinese Military and that every
  person working for COSCO is a communist espionage agent capable of
  sabotage, espionage, and murder.  Never mind that the Red Chinese,
  with the help of Bill Clinton, has "acquired" almost all of our
  military secrets and are at present building the largest military
  force that the world has ever seen, and is preparing that force
  for offensive action.  Never mind that the Chinese Communists are
  the most blood thirsty, savage, murderers of innocent people in
  the modern world.  Our government gives them free access to carry
  "uninspected, sealed cargo containers" up and down our highways.
  God only knows what these sealed containers contain.  Suitcase
  atomic bombs?  Biological or chemical weapons?  [Invasion troops?
  Heroin?]  No one knows for sure what the sealed containers have
  in them.  They are sealed in Red China and unsealed in the Cosco
  warehouses.

  One high level DOT worker that I talked with said.  "Ron Slater,
  one of those crooked Arkansas politicians that Bill Clinton took
  with him to Washington, was appointed by Bill as The Secretary of
  Transportation and it is his group that is forcing the states to
  expedite the creation of these international trade corridor
  highways" (Now we know another reason why the communist chinese
  gave Bill Clinton so much money as "campaign contributions".)

  The main highways of the international trade corridor start at
  the Mexican border and go North across Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas,
  Missouri, Iowa, and Minnesota, the heartland states, and end in
  upper Canada.  In other words, 

[CTRL] Fw: [apfn] Russian Bioweapons Expert Warns of Comming Attacks on West

1999-06-30 Thread Nicky Molloy

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-Original Message-
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Date: Wednesday, 30 June 1999 8:28
Subject: [apfn] Russian Bioweapons Expert Warns of Comming Attacks on West


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SIGHTINGS

Top Russian BioWeapons
Expert Warns Of Coming
Attacks On West

6-28-99







A NEW WORLD ORDER INTELLIGENCE UPDATE ADVISORY
6-28-99



This sobering insight into the Soviet Union's deadly biowar research program
- conducted, you'll notice in passing, under the overall supervision of
Mikhail Gorbachev - comes from the Soviet expert directly responsible for
it.

Note his chilling warning that: "Bioweapons are no longer contained within
the bipolar world of the Cold War. They are cheap, easy to make, and easy to
use. In the coming years, they will become very much a part of our lives."

Now, why were we reminded, upon reading that, of the ominous statement in
the
elite's 1994 Report, OUR GLOBAL NEIGHBOURHOOD: THE REPORT OF THE COMMISSION
ON GLOBAL GOVERNANCE", that global citizens of the future would be "granted
limited rights in exchange for guaranteed security."

Granted "limited rights" BY who, in exchange for "guaranteed security" FROM
who? If you checked the box alongside the answer "The same people", and had
globalist groups like the Bilderbergers in mind, we rather suspect that
you'll soon be considered too independently well-informed to be permitted to
stay on the planet!

John Whitley, Editor NEW WORLD ORDER INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
[http://www.inforamp.net/~jwhitley/index.htm]

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Toronto Star, June 26th, 1999

A LARGE DOSE OF TERROR

An inside look at how the Soviet Union developed lethal germ weapons, and
why
the end of the Cold War has made the threat of biological warfare even worse

By Ken Alibek

An edited excerpt from the chilling new book, Biohazard, by Ken Alibek, a
former biological weapons expert in the Soviet Union, with The Star's
Stephen
Handelman.

ON A BLEAK island in the Aral Sea, 100 monkeys are tethered to posts set in
parallel rows stretching out toward the horizon. A muffled thud breaks the
stillness. Far in the distance, a small metal sphere lifts into the sky then
hurtles downward, rotating, until it shatters in a second explosion.

Some 25 metres above the ground, a cloud the colour of dark mustard begins
to
unfurl, gently dissolving as it glides down toward the monkeys. They pull at
their chains and begin to cry. Some bury their heads between their legs. A
few cover their mouths or noses, but it is too late: They have already begun
to die.

At the other end of the island, a handful of men in biological protective
suits observe the scene through binoculars, taking notes. In a few hours,
they will retrieve the still-breathing monkeys and return them to cages
where
the animals will be under continuous examination for the next several days
until, one by one, they die of anthrax or tularemia, Q fever, brucellosis,
glanders, or plague. These are the tests I supervised throughout the 1980s
and early 1990s. They formed the foundation of the Soviet Union's
spectacular
breakthroughs in biological warfare.

Between 1988 and 1992, I was first deputy chief of Biopreparat, the Soviet
state pharmaceutical agency whose primary function was to develop and
produce
weapons made from the most dangerous viruses, toxins and bacteria known to
man. Biopreparat was the hub of a clandestine empire of research, testing,
and manufacturing facilities spread out over more than 40 sites in Russia
and
Kazakhstan. Nearly every important government institution played a role in
the Soviet biological weapons program. The System, as Biopreparat was often
called, was more successful than the Kremlin had ever dared to hope.

Over a 20-year period that began, ironically, with Moscow's endorsement of
the Biological Weapons Convention in 1972, the Soviet Union built the
largest
and most advanced biological warfare establishment in the world. Through our
covert program, we stockpiled hundreds of tons of anthrax and dozens of tons
of plague and smallpox near Moscow and other Russian cities for use against
the United States and its Western allies.

What went on in Biopreparat's labs was one of the most closely guarded
secrets of the Cold War. Before I became an expert in biological warfare I
was trained as a physician. The government I served perceived no
contradiction between the oath every doctor takes to preserve life and our
preparations for mass murder. For a long time, neither did I. Less than a
decade ago, I was a much-decorated army colonel, marked out for further
promotion in one of the Soviet Union's most elite military programs. If I
had
stayed in Russia, I would have been a major general by now, and you would
never have heard my name. But in 1992, after 17 years inside Biopreparat, I
resigned from my position and fled with my family to 

Re: [CTRL] INTERNATIONAL CORRIDOR CUTS THE US IN HALF

1999-06-30 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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On Thu, 24 Jun 1999, Steve Wingate wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-

 On 30 Jun 99, at 3:15, MICHAEL SPITZER wrote:

  This one actually made me cringe:

 Another one was Klinton's complaining recently that some people actually
 accused him of MURDER!!!

 Well I never...

Truly absurd, huh?!?  Yeah, RIEeeght   ;-)


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[CTRL] Republic or Demcracy by GRASSROOTS!!!

1999-06-30 Thread Inhabitant of the Conquered Land

 -Caveat Lector-

When building an association of political participants, there will always be
diversity.  The failure to incorporate diversity leads to the “presidium”
mentality where in an elite few, project the “good” for the whole.

Today in America, this mentality is presented to Americans everyday on CSPAN,
wherein the one party state found on the shores of the Potomac propagates with
the aide of it’s public affairs programming supported by it’s enfranchised
broadcasters.

In 1992, a Texan, whose fortune was made in Data processing stormed upon the
scene the good ole American way.  Using his cunning, and his wealth, he shook
the one party to state to its knees.  Then one day in July of that summer, his
Steam roller crashed.   We here in America do not the facts behind that crash,
but many believe that this “third” party is a vent for Americans.

Within a despotic state controlled by a central authority, it is better to have
a “loyal” oppoistion, then no opposition.

Is this reform movement truly up to the challenge?  Is this reform Movement
willingly to tolerate diveristy, and allow the rank and file, the party cohorts
make their own decisions, or is this reform movement simply acting as relief
valve as the “loyal” opposition.

History is rank with the failure of the people to stand tall, and secure their
opportunity do not their timidity, but the failure of the “reform” element,
when it becomes satiated with it’s prestige when it is fawned upon by what is
know as the “establishment.”

When the “Wall” fell in Berlin in November of 1989.   The Appratchiks simply
renamed the Communistic Party, to such things as the Social Democratic Party.
Throughout the former Soviet Empire the names have changed, but the same
Appratchks rule.

In Maryland during the second year of the Rebellion against the King, the
freeholders who sat in the  General Assembly of the Proprietor, now sat int the
General Assembly Convened under the Council of Safety.  The continuity of the
statutes was ensured.  The funding of the Estate of the Calvert’s now became
the funding of the State.

Now, the historical wave rolls through the Reform Party.  Jessie Ventura, the
first Governor of the Reform Party, rolled in with a roar to “reform” the
politics.  What changes has he made?

As of this date, the one party state still controls the budget.  The one party
state still controls it’s legislative tribunals.  The people’s labor continues
to underwrite the Social Democracy.

It appears that reform reflects not change in public policy, but only in the
party that control’s the social democracy.

The only way any one polity can effectuate change in America today, is to
strike at the heart of the Social Democracy, and reclaim the Republic.  To do
otherwise, will only continue the same temporary programs of “emergency rule”
that has been in place since on or about  April of 1861.

The cost of liberty is eternal vigilance

"In a age of universal deceit, telling
the truth is a revolutionary act."

George Orwell

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 It appears that I have been removed from the grassroots reflector since I
 announced my candidacy for Vice Chairman, now there is an example of
 

[CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #1

1999-06-30 Thread ric carter

 -Caveat Lector-

SkeptiNews 990630a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

: Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
: Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning.
: No sheep livers were transplanted during the production of this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# 'Planet' loses starring role - The object is too hot to be a planet. (BBC)
  What was hailed as the first image of a planet outside our solar system is
  probably nothing more than a normal star. Just another NASA blunder?
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_381000/381876.stm

# Also: 'Planet' spotted in deep space:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_102000/102093.stm
@ Space Telescope Science Institute: http://www.stsci.edu/top.html

: What was NASA's purpose in releasing this disinformation? Are Reptilioids
anxious to disguise the true nature of this object? What does it all mean?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ Reverse-Engineering Roswell UFO Technology. Computer company chief Jack
  Shulman argues that the transistor could never have been invented so
  suddenly at ATT in late 1947 without the input of alien technology.
  People are too dumb: http://www.peg.apc.org/~nexus/ACCandRoswell.html

: If American military/industrial complex technicians reverse-engineered ET
electronics, why did they have to let Sony build all the transistor radios?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# LINUX FOR THE MASSES. Ebiz Ent's zeroes in on the computer newbie with a
  new computer priced at just US$200. And: Linux gets a boost from Objective
  Reality Computer, developing a 3D interface for the increasingly popular
  OS. http://www.wired.com/news/news/email/tip/technology/story/20479.html

: Is *nix alien technology? Are cheap supercomputers an alien plot to take
over humanity? Do only Reptilioids yacc? Do you suffer from *nix envy? Why?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Heart bypass coup. Tens of thousands of heart bypass patients could soon
  be implanted with world-first artificial arteries. Australian scientists
  have developed hi-tech silicon tubes, growing them inside sheep, then
  customising them for each patient. Made-to-order living arteries in lab
  bottles: see http://theaustralian.com.au:80/state/4298570.htm

: What other siliconized tissues would you like to grow inside sheep? Would
you prefer to grow tissues inside goats, turkeys, sharks, cats, aliens, me?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ 10 great places to have a close encounter: Sedona, Arizona; La Grange,
  Georgia; Rachel, Nevada; Silver City, North Carolina; Los Angeles; Gulf
  Breeze, Florida; Roswell, New Mexico; Hudson Valley/Pine Bush, New York;
  Cincinnati, Ohio; Elmwood, Wisconsin. Be sure to take your toothbrush:
  http://www.usatoday.com/life/travel/leisure/1999/t0617et.htm
@ Also: Previous "10 Great" lists:
  http://www.usatoday.com/life/travel/leisure/ltl010.htm

: Where would you most like to be abducted/implanted? If you were abducted
in New York City, would anyone notice? Do you plan your vacations around
possible close-encounter sites? Are Rachel and Sedona overrun by ETs? Why?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

* BACK IN HACK. Newsgroup: alt.2600 - Moderated: No - Description:
  Discussion about computer hacking and cracking. Sanctimonious hackers
  snip at wannabes and seldom speak of actual cracks, hacks, tips, or
  tricks. There's plenty of griping about Microsoft OS upgrades, and
  under the "I hacked the CIA" thread you'll find bad Irish jokes and
  empty threats. A few people actually answer posted questions, and when
  they do, their answers are right on track. You just have to sift through
  the dirt to find the gold. news:alt.2600

: Have you hacked any US gov't agencies lately? Would you rather hack feds,
write a virus to disable military communications, or launch ICBMs? Where?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# YOUR PRIVATE EMAIL ON PARADE? For at least 2 weeks, personal mail on the
  MailStart  MailStart Plus Web email services were wide open to crackers.
  http://www.wired.com/news/news/email/tip/technology/story/20481.html

# New virus spills your beans - spreads documents all over the Internet:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_381000/381054.stm

# JAPAN RISKS DIGITAL PEARL HARBOR. Japan's leadership is ossified when
  it comes to understanding technology, leaving the country vulnerable
  to cyberterrorism and other forms of electronic attack. Tora tora tora:
  http://www.wired.com/news/news/email/tip/politics/story/20484.html

# ONLINE ANONYMITY CRITICAL. A NSF-funded study says the Internet will not
  thrive unless Net users are allowed to hide their identities. Peekaboo:
  http://www.wired.com/news/news/email/tip/politics/story/20480.html

: What corporate or national entities do you want to penetrate anonymously?
Should you or they have any secrets? Do ETs know everything already? Do you
generate spurious email to mislead your alien monitors? Are they confused?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

SkeptiLinks:


[CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #2

1999-06-30 Thread ric carter

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SkeptiNews 990630b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

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# Biohazard bacteria stolen. (BBC) A vial containing live and dangerous
  tuberculosis bacteria has been stolen by an unwitting robber in San Fran-
  cisco. The bacteria would be dangerous to anyone who inhales or touches
  the contents of the vial, which bears a "biohazard" label, should it be
  opened or broken. The disease could easily be contracted and spread.
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_381000/381511.stm

@ Links - WHO Tuberculosis report: http://www.who.int/gtb/
@ National TB Center (US): http://www.nationaltbcenter.edu/
@ Tuberculosis factsheet:  http://www.who.int/inf-fs/en/fact104.html

: Have you stolen any biohazards lately? Do you like to spread diseases? Is
it fun, especially STDs? Should I leave the San Francisco area immediately?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# U.S. MISSIONARY RELEASED FROM CAPTIVITY IN CHECHNYA. A U.S. missionary was
  freed in the breakaway republic of Chechnya, following a 7-month ordeal in
  which his captors cut off one his fingers to press their ransom demands.
  "I am very happy to be back," said Herbert Gregg, 51. He arrived in Moscow
  after Russian security forces secured Gregg's release. Chechen bandits
  hold hundreds captive: http://cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9906/29/chechnya.free/

: What portion of a missionary's anatomy would you most like to amputate?
Would you devour it? Does your belief system promote abduction/mutilation of
proponents of other belief systems? Do Chechen rebels collaborate with ETs?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Saving stories from dreamtime. (BBC) Time is running out to record the
  tales and myths of the sky passed down from generation to generation of
  Australian Aborigines Aborigines since the dreamtime - the time in the
  past when the world was young. For Aborigines, the sky was a textbook
  of morals and stories retold around campfires. More cultural genocide:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_381000/381736.stm

@ Australian Museum http://www.austmus.gov.au/exhib/indig/cult.htm
@ U. of Western Sydney Macarthur: http://www.macarthur.uws.edu.au/

: Does your belief system obliterate/preserve/distort/ossify/devalue/honor
the cultural artifacts of other belief systems? Do we need culture zoos??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ When Worlds Collide - Velikovsky's Amazing Visions Of Planetary Clashes.
  Dr. Velikovsky remains an obscure figure 20 years after his death, but in
  his time he developed stunning and controversial new theories about Earth
  and the history of humanity. His work not only infuriated his colleagues,
  but also threatened the existence of long-standing scientific, cultural,
  and religious paradigms. If Velikovsky's vision was correct, our distant
  ancestors witnessed unimaginable battles between celestial titans.  Or
  they were just drunk: http://www.llewellyn.com/fate/9906/velikovsky.htm

: Have you seen any planets crash lately? Would you like to crash planets?
Is it more fun than crashing computers? Did ETs escape from crashed planets?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Religious rift brews in rural Georgia - Nuwaubians combine Christian and
  ancient Egyptian philosophical beliefs - Group claims harassment; county
  wants building code enforced; Padlocked pyramid church; 'Our rights viol-
  ated'; Belief in UFOs. EATONTON, Georgia (CNN) Suspicion and apprehension
  are rising between local authorities in rural central Georgia and a black
  religious group, the Nuwaubians, who have declared themselves a separate
  nation and deny they are a cult. Followers have erected Egyptian-style
  pyramids, obelisks and statues on the 476 acres the Nuwaubians own south-
  east of Atlanta - see http://cnn.com/US/9906/29/nuwaubians/index.html

@ Nuwaubu Factology: http://www.factology.com/
@ The Ancient ones: http://users.netropolis.net/moorish/default.htm
@ Identifying the Ethnicity Of The Moors:
  http://www.worldafricannet.com/blackhistory/blackhistory5974.html
@ United Nuwaubian Nation of Moors:
  http://www.wanonline.com/blackhistory/blackhistory3564.html

: Is your belief system exempt from legal jurisdiction? Have you declared
yourself a separate nation? Do you enforce your sovereignty with weapons,
prayers, magic, mind-control rays, divine intervention, pyramid power, cash?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ Mind Body Spirit Summer 1999. From a workout for tots to placenta parties,
  the Voice's Mind Body Spirit package has the essentials for a healthful
  summer. But, Dangerous Moves: Is 'Yoga Therapy' an Oxymoron?
  http://www.villagevoice.com/features/9926/mbs.shtml

: Have you ever attended a placenta party? Do you need yoga therapy? If they
have you by the balls, do your mind 

Re: [CTRL] Major Solar Storm (Art Bell tonight)

1999-06-30 Thread Stopforth, Jamie

 -Caveat Lector-

All this talk of CME's hitting earth in the past few days and nothing...
Does anyone have any reports of these things actually hitting causing
disturbences?

Jamie

 THE SUN

 If you have been with us for any length of time, you know Stan and
 I don't get overly excited, but it's pretty hard to "maintain" when
 your hair is standing on end!

 We are hoping to arrange program time on Art Bell or Jeff Rense, or
 both, but this can't wait.  You know how we talked last message
 about the sun having increased its magnetic field by 40% since 1964
 and DOUBLED since 1901 and feel it has permanently changed our
 weather?  Today's sun picture shows some of the largest potential
 for CME's we've seen.  In past newsletters we discussed that when
 S-shaped filaments from a sunspot reconnects ACROSS THE SUN'S
 EQUATOR to another sunspot, there is a good chance of a CME.
 Today, the sun shows at least 6, possibly 7 of these reconnected
 filaments!

 If you want to look for yourself, go to it via the blinking
 Geophysics News on our home page and click on the blinking Disaster
 Warnings, or go directly there from our home page by clicking
 "Special Solar Event Alert: Go See!"

 Currently these spots are still about 4 days from being
 "earth-side", so we don't know yet where these probable CME's will
 be pointing.  If they are pointing AT us, it may not be a happy
 day.  Calculating their arrival time of 4 days, it could be as long
 as 8 days before protons from this event hit us.  We are in the red
 zone which indicates a 60-100% chance of both CME's and M and X
 class flares within the next 48 hours.
   http://www.dxlc.com/solar/

 Also from Jan's solar report:  There was a CME on the 26th and "as
 the origin of the flare was right at the central meridian, any CME
 associated with it would have a very high probability of impacting
 the earth.  The impact time could be sometime from late on June 28
 to noon on June 29."

 Further, for today, the sunspot number is 310!  This count is
 extremely high!  At the VERY PEAK of Solar Cycle 19, there were
 five days of sunspots ranging from 316 - 355 during December 22-26,
 1957.  Also, October 28-30, 1957, the spot count was 317-334.  Bear
 in mind, Solar Cycle 19 was The Worst solar cycle ever and we are
 not yet at the peak of Solar Cycle 23.  Peak is currently expected
 Jan.-March 2000.  We think this cycle will be a short and violent
 one.


 EL DIABLO

 Good grief, where do we start... Stan has been monitoring El Diablo
 so named as it is not an El Nino or a La Nina, yet exhibits
 characteristics of both.  From our records, Stan kept an OTIS map
 from May 1996 just when things were getting ready for El Nino.
 Comparing that map, where the heating patterns were pretty well
 distributed both above and below the equator, ALL the heating now
 is shoved UP into the Northern Hemisphere.  Comparing the Northern
 Hemisphere in 1996 to now, it is 85% HOTTER!  Stan made a map
 showing the increases in heating so you can see for yourself what
 we are up against.  This will be a bear cat well into next year.
 Rather than rechew the explanation Stan has written for you, here
 are the highlights, but be sure to read the rest of the data.
 It is very enlightening.  Freaky, but enlightening:

 "All this data indicates the following conditions for the next 12
 months in varying degrees:

  1) Drought or unusually dry conditions:  Japan, Alaska, most
  of the USA (some wet weather may occur in Nevada and south of
  there; and also, some summer storms may hit Florida coast and
  slightly north of there), most of Canada, Iceland, Europe,
  western Russia, Scandinavia, Central and southern Australia,
  New Zealand, New Guinea, Fiji, 85% of Africa, southern
  Greenland.

  2) Ice melting with some flooding:  Due to the increases in
  the thermal anomaly in the northerly latitudes, I suspect we
  will see increased polar ice melting in Siberia, Greenland and
  in northern Canada and Alaska.

  3) Super rain-bearing storms in northern Australia (especially
  from Darwin to Gulf of Carpentaria), Southern California,
  Washington and Oregon, western Canada, India and Bangladesh.
  I suspect the NW USA, India and western Canada will get the
  worst storms."

 One last thing we must caution you about.  Kris from Kansas sent us
 a prophecy by a Dr. Deagle heard on the Prophecy Club.  Without
 repeating the whole thing, the important point is this.  Many
 people will have put aside food and water in preparation for Y2K.
 Some folks will need their supplies and be _very glad_ for it,
 others will have an easier time of it, but we don't know for whom
 which situation it will be.  The ones who did not experience
 problems are predicted to sell off their stored foods and supplies
 in disgust for only $.11 - $.13 on the dollar.  Wise people waiting
 in the wings will happily snap up these bargains seeing their
 value.  Other 

Re: [CTRL] Republic or Demcracy by GRASSROOTS!!!

1999-06-30 Thread Ric Carter

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whoever monitors this list.  All these individuals will likely
now be targeted for surveillance by The Conspiracy.  Nice going.

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Re: [CTRL] Message Rejected

1999-06-30 Thread Inhabitant of the Conquered Land

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Closure to diversity is foolishness

You will never reform a system that you refuse to comprehend.

Censorship is your choice.

Lenin censored opinion, Stalin murdered opinion as did Mao.  Fidel follows the
concept that a people silenced are a people happy.   Apparently the current
administration in Washington censors opinion that it cannot manipulate, or
spin.

Just what did you comprehend as "unworthy" of the reflector?

Constructive criticism opens the debate for the growth of ideas and
understanding.

Those who do not understand will never be able to stand tall upon their own.
In order to offer change, an understanding, and willingness to open debate is a
necessity.  Otherwise, the “reform” is nothing but pallidum for the masses, as
the “reformer” continues the same ole Social Destruction populated by a more
“caring” polity.

The cost of liberty is eternal vigilance

"In a age of universal deceit, telling
the truth is a revolutionary act."

George Orwell
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 Subject: Republic  or Demcracy by  GRASSROOTS!!!
 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 08:17:23 -0400

 When building an association of political participants, there will always be
 diversity.  The failure to incorporate diversity leads to the “presidium”
 mentality where in an elite few, project the “good” for the whole.

 Today in America, this mentality is presented to Americans everyday on CSPAN,
 wherein the one party state found on the shores of the Potomac propagates
with
 the aide of it’s public affairs programming supported by it’s enfranchised
 broadcasters.

 In 1992, a Texan, whose fortune was made in Data processing stormed upon the
 scene the good ole American way.  Using his cunning, and his wealth, he shook
 the one party to state to its knees.  Then one day in July of that summer,
his
 Steam roller crashed.   We here in America do not the facts behind that
crash,
 but many believe that this “third” party is a vent for Americans.

 Within a despotic state controlled by a central authority, it is better to
have
 a “loyal” oppoistion, then no opposition.

 Is this reform movement truly up to the challenge?  Is this reform Movement
 willingly to tolerate diveristy, and allow the rank and file, the party
cohorts
 make their own decisions, or is this reform movement simply acting as relief
 valve as the “loyal” opposition.

 History is rank with the failure of the people to stand tall, and secure
their
 opportunity do not their timidity, but the failure of the “reform” element,
 when it becomes satiated with it’s prestige when it is fawned upon by what is
 know as the “establishment.”

 When the “Wall” fell in Berlin in November of 1989.   The Appratchiks simply
 renamed the Communistic Party, to such things as the Social Democratic Party.

 Throughout the former Soviet Empire the names have changed, but the same
 Appratchks rule.

 In Maryland during the second year of the Rebellion against the King, the
 freeholders who sat in the  General Assembly of the Proprietor, now sat int
the
 General Assembly Convened under the Council of Safety.  The continuity of the
 statutes was ensured.  The funding of the Estate of the Calvert’s now became
 the funding of the State.

 Now, the historical wave rolls through the Reform Party.  Jessie Ventura, the
 first Governor of the Reform Party, rolled in with a roar to “reform” the
 politics.  What changes has he made?

 As of this date, the one party state still controls the budget.  The one
party
 state still controls it’s legislative tribunals.  The people’s labor
continues
 to underwrite the Social Democracy.

 It appears that reform reflects not change in public policy, but only in the
 party that control’s the social democracy.

 The only way any one polity can effectuate change in America today, is to
 strike at the heart of the Social Democracy, and reclaim the Republic.  To do
 otherwise, will only continue the same temporary programs of “emergency rule”
 that has been in place since on or about  April of 1861.

 The cost of liberty is eternal vigilance

 "In a age of universal deceit, telling
 the truth is a revolutionary act."

 George Orwell

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Re: [CTRL] Eclipse produced gravitational anomalies

1999-06-30 Thread Bill Kingsbury

 -Caveat Lector-

At 11:15 AM 6-29-1999 -0700, Jerry quoted:

The idea that some unexplained aspect of gravity is at
work seems nonsensical when you consider that it would
seem to imply planets spinning out of their orbits
over very long time scales (among other things).
 (snip)

The accelerations are so persistent that they could be
pointing to some relevant physics that's been
overlooked in trying to explain the motions of bodies
in the universe.


 ...for some wide-ranging, thought provoking,
 and very overlooked physics, see:

 THE NATURE AND ORIGIN OF COMETS AND
 THE EVOLUTION OF CELESTIAL BODIES
  by J.M. MC CANNEY
   http://www.millenngroup.com/repository/cometary/ori1.html
(six pages total)

 a few excerpts:

 "Part III will introduce the induced electric dipole
 red-shift concept(60) and show how it accounts for the
 anomalous red-shift data that currently are under
 controversy in the astronomical community.  It will also
 discuss a theory for geomagnetic field formation with the
 dynamo powered by a planet spinning inside a slightly
 charged moon, and show a correlation between magnetic field
 reversals and the external effects of a highly charged comet
 passing close to the planet.  It will further discuss
 biological evolution and celestial catastrophism, and the
 collective fear of Velikovsky that has permeated the
 scientific community for the past 35 years."


 "Another conclusion is that quasars are not superluminous
 objects at the edge of the universe, but are much closer
 than proposed by the use of the Hubble constant.  With the
 previous paper's results,(6) it is apparent that quasars
 are the initial formative stages of normal galaxies (see
 footnote No. 39 of Part 1, KRONOS IX:1)."


 "This implies that the bizarre theoretical extrapolations of
 General Relativity and the Big Bang Theory, such as "black
 holes", nonEuclidean space, and the "expanding universe"
 are no more than elements of some scientists' imaginations.
 Einstein himself was openly critical of General Relativity
 as "it did not include the total field (electric and
 magnetic)".(7)  It is apparent that this was related to his
 interest in Velikovsky's work, although neither lived long
 enough to resolve the issue."




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Re: [CTRL] Major Solar Storm (Art Bell tonight)

1999-06-30 Thread Bill Kingsbury

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At 09:13 AM 6-30-1999 -0500, Jamie wrote:

 All this talk of CME's hitting earth in the past few days and
 nothing...  Does anyone have any reports of these things
 actually hitting causing disturbences?

 -forwarded message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 00:57:06 EDT
 Subj: [EWAR] Gabriel's Horn: full halo solar CME
   apparently coming right at us


 Gabriel's Horn:
 full halo solar CME apparently coming right at us

 First time I've witnessed this type of symmetry around
 solar disc:  from a well-centered region on 6/29/99,
 perhaps region 8603 at 19:19 UT.

 A. See still image on SOHO EIT :
 http://www.cbjd.net/orbit/sun/6-29eit.jpg

 B. Then look at CME (coronal mass ejection) from SOHO C3:
  1. Small animation:
 http://www.cbjd.net/orbit/sun/gahorn4.gif
  2. Large animation:
 http://www.cbjd.net/orbit/sun/gahorn3.gif

 C. Finally peruse charts for additional data and reference:
 http://members.aol.com/phikent/orbit/orbit.html


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[CTRL] Fwd(2): Y2K: more nuclear news -- don't worry be happy

1999-06-30 Thread nessie

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Gary North's Y2K Links and Forums

Summary and Comments

(feel free to mail this page)

Category:
Power_Grid
Date:
1999-06-29 06:44:51
Subject:
Good News from Nuclear Industry's PR Departments
Link:
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/tc/story.html?s=v/nm/19990628/tc/utilit
ies_nuclear_2.html

Comment:
This report is PR-based. It says that everything will be just fine next
week when the Nuclear Regulatory Commission issues its y2k report,
excepyt for 10% of the plants, which have not been identified.

Will the NRC shut them down? Is the Pope Jewish?

They knew that the plants are compliant, and will therefore pass the
trests next September when the plants can go off-line for testing without
raising rates, i.e., without cutting into company profits. This is
compliance based on faith.

It's true: these plants need power to shut down safely. So, they have
bought diesel generators.

But they need five months of power to shut down safely: to cool the
water.

Spent fuel storage

When removed from a reactor, a fuel bundle will be emitting both
radiation, primarily from the fission fragments, and heat. Spent fuel is
unloaded into a storage facility immediately adjacent to the reactor to
allow the radiation levels and the quantity of heat being released to
decrease.

These facilities are large pools of water; the water acts as both a shield
against the radiation and an absorber of the heat released. Spent fuel is
generally held in such pools for a minimum of about five months.

No problem. They'll just buy it from the grid. It's all planned for. Stop
worrying.

This is a Reuters story on YAHOO! (June 27).

* * * * * * * * * * *

The nuclear power industry, aiming to allay public fears of power
outages and radiation leaks, has stepped up efforts to make sure plants
are not vulnerable to the year 2000 computer bug.

The U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) will release next week
a report on exactly how ready each of the nation's 103 nuclear power
reactors are for the millennium date change. Nuclear reactors account
for about 20 percent of all U.S. power generation. . . .

''All of our plant shutdown systems are analog,'' said Robert Haverkamp,
manager of the Y2K project at Southern California Edison Co.'s
(AMEX:SCEq - news) San Onofre nuclear power plant in San Clemente,
Calif.

Nevertheless, Edison has, over the past 18 months, meticulously tracked
down and remedied all plant systems determined to be vulnerable to the
date change, he said.

`''will be reporting full readiness to the NRC on June 30,'' Haverkamp
said.

But operations-related systems at about 10 of the 103 reactors are not
expected to get a clean bill of health until later this year, Beedle said.

The trade group did not identify which plants are not yet up to snuff, but
emphasized that all are set to undergo maintenance work after power
demand has peaked for the summer. . . .

Like most nuclear reactors, the two operating units at San Onofre are
connected to the regional electricity grid, which brings in the necessary
power for cooling the plant and preventing any threat of meltdown.

As part of everyday operations, critical systems at nuclear plants are
designed with ''fail safe'' conditions, which automatically shut the plant
down if they are not met.

''Even if our worst fears come true and the grid goes down at midnight
on December 31 and we have a station blackout, the reactor shuts down
safely and we can restart after the clock changes,'' Beedle said.

The North American Electric Reliability Council (NERC), which oversees
delivery of electricity in the United States and Canada, said in March the
industry had completed more than 75 percent of the required testing and
remediation of its systems and nearly all were expected to be up to speed
by June 30.

Fewer than 3 percent of all components failed Y2K testing, with most
errors occurring in systems, such as schedule logs, that would not cause
the lights to go out, NERC said.

As a back up, the NRC requires every nuclear reactor to have on site at
least two diesel-powered generators to provide emergency power in case
of a failure in the grid connection.

If, for some random reason, those units were also to fail, nuclear
operators have established backup contingencies. Edison, for example,
has determined two transmission paths, one from San Diego and one
from Hoover Dam in Arizona, that could quickly supply the plant with
emergency power.

Officials said special attention has been paid to making sure that
bureaucratic conditions for plant operations will be met at the time of the
date change. . . .

Link:
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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #3

1999-06-30 Thread ric carter

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SkeptiNews 990630c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

: Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
: Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning.
: No legislators were bribed enough during the production of this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# DNA may reveal Lincoln clues. CHICAGO (AP) For years, the blood-spattered
  velvet cloak that Mary Todd Lincoln is believed to have worn on the night
  Pres. Lincoln was shot has mostly hung untouched. But with recent develop-
  ments in DNA testing, researchers say the garment could reveal some of the
  mysteries about the health of the nation's 16th president. But testing may
  destroy a valuable relic of history to prove false some of the stories and
  myths. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560113771-b33

: Will the truth of the Lincoln hit ever come out? Will DNA reveal Lincoln's
Zeta Reticulan heritage? Will the test results be 'mysteriously' suppressed?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Cosmonaut proposes Mir shares. MOSCOW (AP)  A prominent cosmonaut offered
  a new tactic to save the Mir orbiting station, symbol of Russia's space
  glory and national pride: selling shares to foreigners. Buy a pie in the
  sky: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560105325-5f9

: How much of a space station would you like to buy? Would it be a risky
investment? If Reptilioids try to take it away from you, would you fight?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ INTERSTELLAR TRAVEL: ACCELERATION AND MISSION PROFILE: It is possible for
  an interstellar trip to be very short. The trip from our nearest neighbor,
  Alpha Centuri, a triple star system 4.3 light years away made by acceler-
  ation at 140 g to a v/c of 0. is accomplished from a standing start to
  a standing finish in 6 weeks. http://ufoinfo.com/filer/1999/ff_9925.html

: Is 6 weeks too slow? Would 140 g be uncomfortable? Suppose the inertial
damping system breaks down? Wouldn't it be better to just fold spacetime?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Sen. Hutchinson to divorce. LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) US Sen. Tim Hutchinson,
  a Southern Baptist minister who has called the breakdown of the American
  family one of the nation's biggest problems, said Tuesday he has filed for
  divorce. Hutchinson, who in 1996 became the first popularly elected GOP US
  senator from Arkansas, is touted on his WorldWideWeb site as a "dedicated
  advocate for American families." But he's not hypocritical, just fuzzy.
  See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560116091-067

: Does your belief system force you to be publicly paradoxical? Are your
words  actions inconsistent? What's the difference between a self-rightous
conservative and a lying sack of sh!t? Did Hutchinson's ET implant misfire?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Kingston gets 28 weeks in jail. Polygamist leader John Daniel Kingston
  will spend the next 28 weeks in jail, but his sentence could be reduced if
  he apologizes to his teenage daughter and takes responsibility for beating
  her. http://www.deseretnews.com/dn/view/1,1249,18867,00.html

: Should your punishment be eased if you apologize? Does your belief system
deal with polygamy, abuse, punishment, redemption? Do your mores evolve???
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# San Diego seeks end to beach nudity. SAN DIEGO (AP) - A remote strip of
  pristine sand long labeled America's most popular - yet unofficial - nude
  beach is covering up. After years of tolerating sunbathers in the buff,
  the city is again trying to enforce an old ban on nudity at Black's Beach.
  Some who visit the 1,500-foot stretch of coastline in the wealthy enclave
  of La Jolla have complained about increased sexual behavior and expansion
  of the nude beach boundaries by the clothing-optional set. Kill-joys -
  see http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560111087-3c9

: Is a nude beach the only place where you can be sure that those around you
are human? Are nudity bans pushed by ETs so we can't tell who they are?  Is
'modesty', pathological body-consciousness, an alien-implanted control ploy?
Do aliens control all gov't agencies that impose nudity bans, all churches
that stress 'modesty', all social institutions that promote 'shame'? Where?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Scientists predict babies possible from thawed tissue. (BBC) Women could
  be able to have babies from thawed ovarian tissue within the next ten
  years. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_381000/381723.stm

# Also: Older women's pregnancy chances boosted:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_378000/378057.stm
# Fertility doctors can cut twin pregnancies:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_378000/378219.stm

# Islam allows egg storage. (BBC) Storage of human eggs for fertilisation by
  a husband is not forbidden by Islam, a senior religious authority in Cairo
  has said. But fertilising eggs with sperm from a 3rd party does break holy
  law. 

Re: [CTRL] Major Solar Storm (Art Bell tonight)

1999-06-30 Thread Stopforth, Jamie

 -Caveat Lector-

  Okay, I've seen the pictures of these things, but what's suppose to occur
here? Magnets falling off the fridge or what? Nothing's happening...

Jamie

At 09:13 AM 6-30-1999 -0500, Jamie wrote:

 All this talk of CME's hitting earth in the past few days and
 nothing...  Does anyone have any reports of these things
 actually hitting causing disturbences?

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 00:57:06 EDT
 Subj: [EWAR] Gabriel's Horn: full halo solar CME
   apparently coming right at us


 Gabriel's Horn:
 full halo solar CME apparently coming right at us

 First time I've witnessed this type of symmetry around
 solar disc:  from a well-centered region on 6/29/99,
 perhaps region 8603 at 19:19 UT.

 A. See still image on SOHO EIT :
 http://www.cbjd.net/orbit/sun/6-29eit.jpg

 B. Then look at CME (coronal mass ejection) from SOHO C3:
  1. Small animation:
 http://www.cbjd.net/orbit/sun/gahorn4.gif
  2. Large animation:
 http://www.cbjd.net/orbit/sun/gahorn3.gif

 C. Finally peruse charts for additional data and reference:
 http://members.aol.com/phikent/orbit/orbit.html


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[CTRL] Re: [CTRL] State to sell residentsÕ salary info

1999-06-30 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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 TALLAHASSEE - The state plans to start selling confidential salary
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 other lenders that need to know a person’s creditworthiness.

 Just months after a public outcry stopped the state from selling
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Well just read his lips.  I'm sure it says "no sale."  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] BusyNess

1999-06-30 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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  WASHINGTON, Jun 29, 1999 -- (Agence France Presse) U.S. drug
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  value for Kosovo refugees, the New York Times reported Tuesday.
 
  U.S. corporate medical donations included boxloads of items such
  as dry lip balm, anti-hemorrhoid medicine and anti-smoking
  inhalers, the Times reported.
 
  Between one-third and half of all medical donations to the Kosovo
  refugees sent in from around the world are essentially worthless,
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Think about this the next time so pharmaceutical company tells you how they
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Re: [CTRL] Republic or Demcracy by GRASSROOTS!!!

1999-06-30 Thread nessie

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I thought AOL already provided " a nice list of email addresses for
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Re: [CTRL] Gabriel's Horn: full halo solar CME apparently coming right atus

1999-06-30 Thread Hilary A. Thomas

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In a message dated 6/30/99 9:27:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
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 Hi Kent,

 People are asking what exactly this means and what can we expect and
 when...

 Hilary
  
Hard for me to say--the full-halo was indeed beautiful maybe a little
frightening.  If a frontside CME (region 8611, M3.1/1N flare at 08:21 UTC,
6/29) I would suspect
an impact within 3 or 4 days.  If a backside event then expect little
impact--kind of like roulette.

However the past few days there has been a string of awesome M-Class flares

from regions well-centered on the solar disc. Magnetic storms are certain
to
follow.  We may see some atmospheric fireworks, aurora, perhaps even
sprites
and fireballs which lately seem to tail powerful solar events.

All the images and data are at:

http://members.aol.com/phikent/orbit/orbit.html

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Re: [CTRL] Biohazard bacteria stolen

1999-06-30 Thread Hilary A. Thomas

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# Biohazard bacteria stolen. (BBC) A vial containing live and dangerous
  tuberculosis bacteria has been stolen by an unwitting robber in San Fran-
  cisco. The bacteria would be dangerous to anyone who inhales or touches
  the contents of the vial, which bears a "biohazard" label, should it be
  opened or broken. The disease could easily be contracted and spread.
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_381000/381511.stm


This sounds like something out of a Jack Ryan book or one of those disaster
movies.  I can hear the ominous music playing now as some jerk infects a
large portion of the population as a direct result of his blind stupidity
and greed.

Also, what the heck was this scientist doing leaving a highly infectious
vial of bacteria in her suitcase?  I've worked in a lab.  You just don't do
this stuff.  If I were the paranoid suspicious type and saw conspiracies
everywhere I would red-flag this little incident.

Hilary

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[CTRL] Hubbell Pleads Guilty in Starr Probe

1999-06-30 Thread Hilary A. Thomas
damaging information about major figures in the Whitewater scandal, while
providing little if anything useful to the prosecutor about his longtime
friends.

© Copyright 1999 The Associated Press

http://search.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WAPO/19990630/V000361-063099-idx.htm
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[CTRL] Yahoo Now Owns ALL Copyrights on All the Contents of 3.5 million GeoCities Websites for All Times

1999-06-30 Thread Hilary A. Thomas

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Yahoo Now Owns ALL Copyrights on All the Contents of 3.5 million GeoCities
Websites for All Times

Computers/Internet News Keywords: YAHOO, COPYRIGHT, GEOCITIES, THEFT,
UNDERHANDED, DESPICABLE
Source: World Net Daily/Wired News
Published: 3:00 a.m. 29.Jun.99.PDT Author: by Declan McCullagh
Posted on 06/30/1999 11:06:18 PDT by Sniffer

For Educational and Discussion Purposes Only!
Yahoo: Your House Is My House

If you're a GeoCities homesteader, be warned: Your Web site is no longer
your own.

Yahoo, which launched its Yahoo-GeoCities site Monday, says it owns all Web
pages, articles, and images on member sites and has "irrevocable" rights to
them for all time.

This presents a problem for those GeoCities members who have painstakingly
assembled large sites with dozens, even hundreds, of pages of valuable
material. See also: Yahoo Gobbles Up GeoCities
"Somebody please tell me that this does not mean that Yahoo is demanding
the rights to a large portion of my professional writing and photography if
I use my Web site there," complained Tracy Marks, who estimates that she
has 600 Web pages and 23 MB of files on GeoCities.

To create or update GeoCities pages, members must agree to a contract that
gives Yahoo broad rights over their intellectual property. Under its terms
of service, publishers must give Yahoo a "royalty-free, perpetual,
irrevocable, non-exclusive and fully sublicensable right and license to
use, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, create derivative works
from, distribute, perform and display such Content" in any form or media.

Yahoo defends the terms in the contract, saying it's trying to prevent
itself from being sued over copyright infringements and wants the ability
to promote its service. Consumer advocates say Yahoo has gone too far.

"It's a bad idea. People don't read the fine print on these contracts.
People will give up intellectual property to Yahoo without understanding
what they're getting into," said Jamie Love of the Ralph Nader-affiliated
Consumer Project on Technology.

"People have made investments by promoting their site and people start to
link to them. They're changing the rules in midstream," Love said. Legal
experts say that it's likely Yahoo will change its mind.

"I bet that once it comes to light, they'll modify it. They can't get away
with it. They'd have people leaving in droves," said David Post, a law
professor at George Mason University who teaches intellectual property law.


"My prediction is that Yahoo will say, 'That's not what we intended. We
don't really want to do all these things with their content. We had it as
an insurance policy,'" Post said.

Some scholarly journals have standardized similar contracts that are even
more restrictive: They require authors to give up all rights to the
publication.

But as authors began to want to post their writings on their Web sites,
journals have started to become more flexible. Yahoo will let users keep
their existing GeoCities pages under the old contract, but customers cannot
modify their site until they agree to the revised terms of service.

Some other Web page-hosting services have similar contracts. Tripod, which
is owned by the parent company of Wired News, requires its users to grant
it "a royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, nonexclusive, worldwide,
unrestricted license to use, copy, modify, transmit, distribute, and
publicly perform or display the submitted Member Web Page."

Yahoo is becoming deceitful, underhanded, and greedy. This should be a wake
up call for people not to deal with them or GeoCities. I pity those poor
people with large investments of time, effort, and energy in their websites
located at GeoCities. They have to move out and relocate in a hurry! How
mean, rotten, despicable, and unpleasant of Yahoo.

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Re: [CTRL] Major Solar Storm

1999-06-30 Thread Bill Kingsbury

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At 11:09 AM 6-30-1999 -0500, Jamie wrote:

  Okay, I've seen the pictures of these things, but what's
 suppose to occur here? Magnets falling off the fridge or what?
 Nothing's happening...


 Time to relax -- a CME takes 3 or 4 days to reach Earth,
 if it's actually headed directly this way.  Light photons
 take only 8 minutes to reach Earth, but a CME is a plasma
 cloud of highly charged ions which travels much slower.

 No telling how strong it will be.  If it affects the SOHO
 or Cassini spacecraft on the way, we'll have a warning
 which way the blast is pointed.

 Refer to the original post for reports of past CMEs, and
 the range of possible effects here on Earth.  As Stan said
 last night (on with Art Bell), if a really big CME were to
 be pointed straight at Earth, it would cook the fish in the
 ocean -- and burn up all the crops in the fields -- on the
 near side of the planet.  Another report claimed its
 total energy 'could' boil the Medeterranean Sea entirely
 dry in 60 seconds (if focused only in that one location).
 Earth would be 'fogged in' for years, if something similar
 were to happen.

 In March 1989, almost the entire electrical grid supplying
 the province of Quebec collapsed - in less than 2 minutes -
 due to powerful electrical currents that were induced into
 Hydro Quebecs electrical power lines during one of the
 strongest geomagnetic storms on record.

 Not to worry -- but I'd stay out of airplanes for the next
 few days.  If I had a metal safe, I'd think about putting
 my computer (electronics, etc.) inside, out of harm's way.
 Now might be a good time to have a back-up electrical
 generator, so your refrigerator stays cold, etc.  But then,
 nothing at all may happen (this time), who knows ?

  emergency power generators:
http://theepicenter.com/tipoweek.html
http://theepicenter.com/tow02077.html
http://popularmechanics.com/popmech/homei/9803HIHIAM.html

 The current solar cycle ('Cycle 23') is an 11-year cycle,
 'estimated' to peak around March 2000.  Solar activity
 such as sunspots and solar flares will very likely increase,
 and accelerate global warming, hurricanes, volcanos, etc.
 The peak of Cycle 23 may last well into 2001.  Y2K could be
 a real scream.  Watch Al Gore try to milk this baby!


 2000 Means Trouble For Technology
  http://www.fas.org/2000/23sec.htm

 Solar Storm Of The Century
  http://cbs.aol.com/flat_story_134642.html

 Fire in the sky
  http://www.newscientist.com/ns/19990227/fireinthes.html

 ROGUE SOLAR STORMS EXPECTED :
  http://www.reptoids.com/solar.htm

 Effects of Solar Shock Waves On Biological Systems :
  http://mypage.direct.ca/g/gcramer/solar.html



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[CTRL] A DRUG MADE BY ARMENIAN SCIENTISTS PROMISES TO CURE AIDS

1999-06-30 Thread Hilary A. Thomas

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So why isn't this front page news here in the states?  Hilary

30 / 06 / 99  Web Posted:  18:27 GMT+2

A DRUG MADE BY ARMENIAN SCIENTISTS PROMISES TO CURE AIDS Thessaloniki,
30/06/1999 (MPA)   A drug discovered by Armenian scientists managed to cure
48 AIDS patients and its use has already been approved by the Armenian
state pharmacology committee.  Russian press reports confirm that a number
of AIDS patients, who have received the medicine, have been cured from the
deadly virus.

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[CTRL] INSIDE THE GUN CONTROL BILL

1999-06-30 Thread Carl Amedio

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INSIDE THE GUN CONTROL BILL

Political analysts warn that there are a number of freedom-
robbing elements lurking -- but not publicized -- in the juvenile
crime, or gun control, bill.  Both houses of Congress have passed
separate versions of the bill, with the differences to be worked
out in a conference committee.

New York University Law School's Dave Kopel has been writing and
speaking out on some of the legislation's hidden provisions.

   o   The federal government would be allowed to seize the
   property of a person who is convicted of any federal
   felony -- and this forfeiture rule applies to state
   felonies as well.

   o   The federal government could also seize the property of
   a person who commits a misdemeanor under state law if
   physical harm results from that misdemeanor.

   o   Police would be allowed to monitor private pager
   communications without a warrant.

   o   The bill would void a federal law that restricts the
   government from compiling a list of gun owners.

It also imposes a mandatory one-year sentence for violating a
federal gun law which says that adults can't give handguns to
minors.  In a report for the Independence Institute, Kopel and
James Winchester pointed out that a father who gives a family
heirloom in a locked case to his son on the boy's 17th birthday
would have to spend a mandatory year in prison.

Source: David B. Kopel  James Winchester, "Unfair and
Unconstitutional: The New Federal Juvenile Crime and Gun Control
Proposals," Issue Paper No. 3-99, June 3, 1999,  Independence
Institute, 14142 Denver West Pkwy., Suite 185, Golden, Colo.
80401, (303) 279-6536; Editorial, "A Freedom-Control Bill,"
Investor's Business Daily, June 30, 1999.

For text http://www.i2i.org/SuptDocs/Crime/unfair.htm

For more on Crime and Punishment in America
http://www.ncpa.org/pi/crime/crime33.html#A

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Re: [CTRL] Major Solar Storm

1999-06-30 Thread Das GOAT

 -Caveat Lector-

In a message dated 99-06-30 15:57:17 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 In March 1989, almost the entire electrical grid supplying
 the province of Quebec collapsed - in less than 2 minutes -
 due to powerful electrical currents that were induced into
 Hydro Quebecs electrical power lines during one of the
 strongest geomagnetic storms on record.

What a great "rational" explanation for tests of EMP technology by the
military.
I wonder if the Pentagon is "watching the skies" too, waiting for the
go-ahead?

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Re: [CTRL] Biohazard bacteria stolen

1999-06-30 Thread Das GOAT

 -Caveat Lector-

In a message dated 99-06-30 13:34:53 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

This sounds like something out of a Jack Ryan book or one of those disaster
movies.  I can hear the ominous music playing now as some jerk infects a
large portion of the population as a direct result of his blind stupidity
and greed.

Also, what the heck was this scientist doing leaving a highly infectious
vial of bacteria in her suitcase?  I've worked in a lab.  You just don't do
this stuff.  If I were the paranoid suspicious type and saw conspiracies
everywhere I would red-flag this little incident.


Stolen TB Vial Poses No Immediate Peril --
Bacteria responsible for outbreak in Kentucky

by Sabin Russell
San Francisco Chronicle, June 30, 1999

 A vial of tuberculosis germs stolen from a San Francisco
hotel room Monday contained a strain of the bacteria responsible
for a 1995 outbreak of TB in rural Kentucky that scientists once
feared was especially dangerous.
 Further study, however, suggests that the Kentucky strain --
dubbed CDC1551 -- is no more virulent than other varieties, but
has unique qualities that may help researchers develop a better
vaccine against tuberculosis.
 Scientific interest in the unusual strain has been intense,
and a paper discussing new findings will be delivered today at
the National Institutes of Health-sponsored TB conference at the
Cathedral Hill Hotel, where the burglary took place.
 City health officials yesterday continued to stress that the
only immediate danger posed by the stolen vial is to the thieves
if they were to open it.
 "I'm not worried,"' said Dr. Masae Kawamura, director of TB
control for the San Francisco Department of Public Health.
 San Francisco police have no leads in their investigation of
the burglary of a University of California at San Diego
researcher's hotel room. Taken from her closet was a black Eddie
Bauer suitcase containing clothing, jewelry and an 8-inch
aluminium tube, rolled in plastic bubblewrap and clearly marked
"Biohazard."
 Police said there were no signs of a break-in.
 The material had been hand-delivered to the unidentified
scientist earlier by Sabine Ehrt, a post-doctoral researcher at
UC Berkeley.  Transport of hazardous microbes is surprisingly
routine among laboratories.  Typically, the vials are sent by
mail or UPS.
 Until recently, CDC1551 had a reputation as a particularly
scary form of tuberculosis. It was studied intensely after a
frightening outbreak in Clinton County, Ky., and neighboring
Picket County, Tenn.
 A study by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
reported that just three patients with the suspect strain were
responsible for exposing 311 others through casual contact, in a
rural environment not known for harboring the disease.
 Epidemiologists concluded that 72 percent of 429 people
known to have had contact with the three between 1994 and 1996
tested positive on a TB skin test, an almost unheard of infection
rate.  Additional research showed that the bacteria grew in mouse
lungs at 10 times the rate of other laboratory TB strains.
 But studies since have downplayed the danger.
 "It turned out that the theory this strain was particularly
virulent was probably wrong,"' said UC San Francisco TB expert
Dr. Philip Hopewell.
 A study being presented at the San Francisco conference
today by Rockefeller University researcher Claudia Manca found
that the Kentucky strain was not more contagious or severe, but
prompted a more vigorous immune response in infected mice.
 That tendency to stir up the immune system explains why so
many Kentucky residents tested positive: the TB test actually
gauges immune reaction, not active infection.  It is also the
type of response researchers like to see in a vaccine.

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[CTRL] Remember When--? (1994)

1999-06-30 Thread Das GOAT

 -Caveat Lector-

   PROJECT CENSORED's
   Top Ten Censored Stories of 1994

Powerful Group of Ultra-Conservatives
 Has Secret Plans for Your Future

 Observers of the nation's political scene, who wonder why
the United States took a sharp right turn in 1994, should know
about the Council for National Policy (CNP). In May 1981, under a
tent in the backyard of political strategist Richard Viguerie's
suburban Virginia home, 160 new-right political leaders
celebrated their political fortunes and the election of President
Ronald Reagan the previous November.
 This elite group of administration officials, congressmen,
industrialists, and conservative Christians -- including Interior
Secretary James Watt, Office of Management and Budget Director
David Stockman, Phyllis Schlafly, Joseph Coors, Sen. John East
(R-NC), Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT), and Paul Weyrich, founding
president of the Heritage Foundation, a right-wing think tank --
launched a political federation to secretly coordinate their own
political agenda.
 Weyrich, reportedly the single most important person of CNP,
once proposed that the Republicans include a plank in their 1988
platform that AIDS be controlled by "reintroducing and enforcing
anti-sodomy laws." And CNP's R.J. Rushdoony, a leader of the
Christian Reconstruction movement, argues that right-thinking
Christians should take "dominion" over the United States and do
away with the "heresy" that is democracy.
 After the public inauguration of the group, the CNP went
underground.  As investigative journalist Joel Bleifuss notes,
"we do not know much about the CNP's actions or agenda," but we
do know that the radical right is on the ascendant within the
Republican Party and has taken over state GOP organizations in
Texas, California, Minnesota, Hawaii, Iowa, Nevada, Arizona,
Idaho, and Virginia.
 Russ Bellant, author of "The Coors Connection," said the
meetings of this little-known organization are often a spring-
board for radical-right campaigns and long-term planning. "But
these efforts will seldom be traced to the CNP." The group meets
quarterly behind closed doors and is so secretive that the
group's Washington office will neither confirm nor deny where, or
even if, the group meets.
 While the roster of the 500 members of the organization is
confidential, it is known to include Jerry Falwell, of the
Liberty Alliance; Oliver North, CNP executive committee member;
Sen. Don Nickles (R-OK); Sen. Trent Lott (R-MS); Sen. Jesse Helms
(R-NC); Rep. Bob Dornan (R-CA); Brent Bozell III, of the Media
Research Center; [World Anti-Communist League and] Iran-contra
figure Gen. John Singlaub; Richard Shoff, former leader of the Ku
Klux Klan in Indiana; Republican pollster Richard Wirthlin;
Robert Weiner, head of Maranatha, a Christian cult; Howard
Phillips of the Conservative Caucus; Linda Bean Folkers of the
L.L. Bean Co.; televangelist John Ankerberg; Bob Jones III,
president of the Bob Jones University; and former attorney
general Edwin Meese, CNP president in 1994.
 To emphasize the secret nature of their meetings, CNP
Executive Director Morton C. Blackwell wrote a memorandum to
members attending a meeting in St. Louis in 1993 instructing them
that all remarks made at the conference were to be strictly
private. "The media should not know when or where we meet or who
takes part in our programs, before or after a meeting."
 And, with the exception of the alternative press, the
Council for National Policy has managed to escape the attention
of the media.

 SOURCE: IN THESE TIMES, 8/8/94, "Right-Wing Confidential" by
Joel Bleifuss


Secret Pentagon Plan to Subsidize Defense Contractor Mergers

 SOURCE: NEWSDAY, 7/28/94, "Flak for Defense Merger" by
Patrick J. Sloyan.

 The Pentagon is secretly funneling taxpayer dollars to giant
military contractors to help them grow even larger. This
extraordinary Pentagon ploy to pay defense contractors billions
of dollars to underwrite expenses connected with acquisitions and
mergers was approved without any announcement in 1993; it was not
discovered until July 1994.
 According to Deputy Defense Secretary John Deutch, the
unprecedented payment plan will save taxpayers money. Deutch said
the mergers would help reduce overhead charges by defense
contractors as the industry becomes smaller. Members of the House
Armed Services Investigations Subcommittee rejected Deutch's
explanation saying the policy was a potential windfall for
defense contractors and an incentive for hostile corporate
takeovers ... with taxpayers picking up the bill.
 David Cooper, of the General Accounting Office, said that
while no specific savings could be seen, the new policy could
involve "several billions of dollars" in payments to defense
contractors for postmerger restructuring costs that have yet to
be defined.
 Norman Augustine, chairman of Martin Marietta, a giant
billion-dollar defense contractor, supported the plan, 

Re: [CTRL] Major Solar Storm

1999-06-30 Thread MJ

 -Caveat Lector-

What an interesting way to test HAARP for its effect on electronics.
Everyone be sure to wear your aluminum  lead lined brain wave deflector
gear...

-Original Message-
From:   Das GOAT [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Wednesday, June 30, 1999 4:13 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: [CTRL] Major Solar Storm

 -Caveat Lector-

In a message dated 99-06-30 15:57:17 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 In March 1989, almost the entire electrical grid supplying
 the province of Quebec collapsed - in less than 2 minutes -
 due to powerful electrical currents that were induced into
 Hydro Quebecs electrical power lines during one of the
 strongest geomagnetic storms on record.

What a great "rational" explanation for tests of EMP technology by the
military.
I wonder if the Pentagon is "watching the skies" too, waiting for the
go-ahead?

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Re: [CTRL] Biohazard bacteria stolen

1999-06-30 Thread Ric Carter

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- Original Message -
From: Hilary A. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 1999 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Biohazard bacteria stolen


 # Biohazard bacteria stolen. (BBC) A vial containing live and dangerous
 tuberculosis bacteria has been stolen by an unwitting robber in San Fran-
 cisco. The bacteria would be dangerous to anyone who inhales or touches
 the contents of the vial, which bears a "biohazard" label, should it be
 opened or broken. The disease could easily be contracted and spread.
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_381000/381511.stm

 This sounds like something out of a Jack Ryan book or one of those
 disaster movies.  I can hear the ominous music playing now as some
 jerk infects a large portion of the population as a direct result
 of his blind stupidity and greed.

Fast-edit to multiple views of San Francisco streets empty during
daylight, with convoys of military choppers clattering overhead.
The camera moves South-Of-Market, zooming-in on bodies scattered
in gutters, seagulls and pigeons moving by.  Ominous music...

 Also, what the heck was this scientist doing leaving a highly infec-
 tious vial of bacteria in her suitcase?  I've worked in a lab.

She'd just arrived for a medical conference, was to give the vial
to a colleague to take back to his lab to culture the strain.  The
real "duuh"-moment comes when we ask why she didn't check her tote
bag [which also contained cash and jewels] into the hotel safe.

 You just don't do this stuff.  If I were the paranoid suspicious type
 and saw conspiracies everywhere I would red-flag this little incident.

But hey, if you WANTED to spread contagion in SF, it'd be a lot
easier just to spray your anthrax aerosol [or whatever] onto the
crowds at Fisherman's Wharf, Pier 39, Ghirardelli Square.  Or in
a passenger terminal at SFO [the airport], making sure that your
little "gift" was delivered far and wide.

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Re: [CTRL] Biohazard bacteria stolen

1999-06-30 Thread Hilary A. Thomas

 -Caveat Lector-

Hiya Das,

"Further study, however, suggests that the Kentucky strain --
dubbed CDC1551 -- is no more virulent than other varieties"

This is damage control.

Read when the author is not saying 'everything is okay':

A study by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
 reported that just three patients with the suspect strain were
 responsible for exposing 311 others through casual contact, in a
 rural environment not known for harboring the disease.
  Epidemiologists concluded that 72 percent of 429 people
 known to have had contact with the three between 1994 and 1996
 tested positive on a TB skin test, an almost unheard of infection
 rate.  Additional research showed that the bacteria grew in mouse
 lungs at 10 times the rate of other laboratory TB strains.

Hilary

--
 From: Das GOAT [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [CTRL] Biohazard bacteria stolen
 Date: Wednesday, June 30, 1999 2:23 PM

  -Caveat Lector-

 In a message dated 99-06-30 13:34:53 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 This sounds like something out of a Jack Ryan book or one of those
disaster
 movies.  I can hear the ominous music playing now as some jerk infects a
 large portion of the population as a direct result of his blind
stupidity
 and greed.
 
 Also, what the heck was this scientist doing leaving a highly infectious
 vial of bacteria in her suitcase?  I've worked in a lab.  You just don't
do
 this stuff.  If I were the paranoid suspicious type and saw conspiracies
 everywhere I would red-flag this little incident.


 Stolen TB Vial Poses No Immediate Peril --
 Bacteria responsible for outbreak in Kentucky

 by Sabin Russell
 San Francisco Chronicle, June 30, 1999

  A vial of tuberculosis germs stolen from a San Francisco
 hotel room Monday contained a strain of the bacteria responsible
 for a 1995 outbreak of TB in rural Kentucky that scientists once
 feared was especially dangerous.
  Further study, however, suggests that the Kentucky strain --
 dubbed CDC1551 -- is no more virulent than other varieties, but
 has unique qualities that may help researchers develop a better
 vaccine against tuberculosis.
  Scientific interest in the unusual strain has been intense,
 and a paper discussing new findings will be delivered today at
 the National Institutes of Health-sponsored TB conference at the
 Cathedral Hill Hotel, where the burglary took place.
  City health officials yesterday continued to stress that the
 only immediate danger posed by the stolen vial is to the thieves
 if they were to open it.
  "I'm not worried,"' said Dr. Masae Kawamura, director of TB
 control for the San Francisco Department of Public Health.
  San Francisco police have no leads in their investigation of
 the burglary of a University of California at San Diego
 researcher's hotel room. Taken from her closet was a black Eddie
 Bauer suitcase containing clothing, jewelry and an 8-inch
 aluminium tube, rolled in plastic bubblewrap and clearly marked
 "Biohazard."
  Police said there were no signs of a break-in.
  The material had been hand-delivered to the unidentified
 scientist earlier by Sabine Ehrt, a post-doctoral researcher at
 UC Berkeley.  Transport of hazardous microbes is surprisingly
 routine among laboratories.  Typically, the vials are sent by
 mail or UPS.
  Until recently, CDC1551 had a reputation as a particularly
 scary form of tuberculosis. It was studied intensely after a
 frightening outbreak in Clinton County, Ky., and neighboring
 Picket County, Tenn.
  A study by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
 reported that just three patients with the suspect strain were
 responsible for exposing 311 others through casual contact, in a
 rural environment not known for harboring the disease.
  Epidemiologists concluded that 72 percent of 429 people
 known to have had contact with the three between 1994 and 1996
 tested positive on a TB skin test, an almost unheard of infection
 rate.  Additional research showed that the bacteria grew in mouse
 lungs at 10 times the rate of other laboratory TB strains.
  But studies since have downplayed the danger.
  "It turned out that the theory this strain was particularly
 virulent was probably wrong,"' said UC San Francisco TB expert
 Dr. Philip Hopewell.
  A study being presented at the San Francisco conference
 today by Rockefeller University researcher Claudia Manca found
 that the Kentucky strain was not more contagious or severe, but
 prompted a more vigorous immune response in infected mice.
  That tendency to stir up the immune system explains why so
 many Kentucky residents tested positive: the TB test actually
 gauges immune reaction, not active infection.  It is also the
 type of response researchers like to see in a vaccine.

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Re: [CTRL] Republic or Demcracy by GRASSROOTS!!!

1999-06-30 Thread Ric Carter

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- Original Message -
From: nessie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Wow, you've certainly provided a nice list of email addresses for
whoever monitors this list.

 I thought AOL already provided " a nice list of email addresses for
 whoever monitors this list."

Different list, different addresses - more fodder for the monitors.
Cross-pollination, as it were, eh?

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Re: [CTRL] A DRUG MADE BY ARMENIAN SCIENTISTS PROMISES TO CURE AIDS

1999-06-30 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 06/30/1999 4:07:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 30/06/1999 (MPA)   A drug discovered by Armenian scientists managed to cure
 48 AIDS patients and its use has already been approved by the Armenian
 state pharmacology committee.  Russian press reports confirm that a number
 of AIDS patients, who have received the medicine, have been cured from the
 deadly virus. 

This will be a God-send if it's really valid.  Prudy

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[CTRL] Fw: Artfully Woven Web of Deceit

1999-06-30 Thread day

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 June 27, 1999
 Washington Times

 Artfully Woven Web of Deceit
 By Jack Kemp

 Official Washington and the sleepy "establishment" media are agog over
 President Clinton's "great victory" in the Balkans. Even the president's
 critics grant him a stupendous foreign policy success. "Victory,"
 screams the editorial headline of the Weekly Standard, and the editorialist goes
 on to proclaim, "Slobodan Milosevic's capitulation to U.S. and NATO demands
 represents a triumph for...President Clinton, and for the small but
 stalwart group of Republicans...who supported the war from beginning to end." The
 National Review's senior editor Peter Rodman said on C-Span's
 "Washington Journal" that it would be "churlish" of Bill Clinton's critics now to
 criticize the Clinton/ NATO policy in Kosovo after events have proved it
 right. "Milosevic's capitulation to NATO demands?" " NATO proved right?" My
 goodness, what delusions are emanating from inside the Washington
 Beltway; what fabrications are being perpetrated on the American people. The
 truth of this war is the exact opposite of the establishment's portrayal. It was
 an unnecessary, and in my opinion illegal and unconstitutional, war from
 the beginning. It failed on every score to achieve the goals articulated to
 justify it, exacerbated the very problems it sought to remedy and
 created new problems that will plague America and the Balkans for years to come.
 It was, in short, a debacle, an "international Waco," which no amount of
 "spinning" by NATO and the media can erase. We could have had the same,
 or perhaps even a better deal at Rambouillet if we had been willing to, in
 Winston Churchill's words, "jaw jaw instead of war war!"

 President Clinton, spurred on by U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine
 Albright in particular, led NATO to start an unprovoked and unjustified war out
 of pique because the Yugoslavian government, as would any other sovereign
 nation, refused to consent to two provisions of the Rambouillet proposal
 that were insisted on by the Atlantic Alliance: (1) that Belgrade allow
 a foreign military alliance ( NATO) to occupy every square inch of its
 sovereign territory, billet its forces wherever it desired and receive
 immunity before the fact against "any claims of any sort" that might
 arise out of alliance activities (including criminal acts by NATO personnel);
 and (2) that Belgrade concede to a referendum after three years that would
 almost certainly have guaranteed independence for Kosovo and thus wrench
 it out of the Yugoslav Federation.

 Far from capitulating to these NATO demands, which constituted an
 unambiguous assault on Yugoslavian sovereignty, Belgrade withstood 79
 days of brutal bombing, while the Milosevic government ruthlessly exploited
 the opportunity to engage in killing and brutality by pillaging and
 conducting wholesale displacement and deportation of Kosovar Albanians, only a
 fraction of whom are ever likely to return to their homes. Far from stopping a
 humanitarian disaster, the NATO bombing provoked one. The Yugoslavian
 Parliament finally agreed to withdraw most of its troops from Kosovo
 only after NATO agreed to a peace accord that explicitly reaffirms
 Yugoslavian sovereignty and conspicuously omits both of the two
 unacceptable demands from Rambouillet.

 Moreover, unlike Rambouillet, this accord will be adopted and
 implemented under the auspices of the United Nations. The international
 peacekeeping force called for in the agreement, while comprising troops
 from NATO countries, will be deployed in Kosovo only, under the auspices of the
 United Nations, and its actions will be authorized and limited by the U.N. And
 NATO has agreed wisely to disarm the Kosovo Liberation Army.

 NATO also claims at least to have salvaged its "credibility" by
 demonstrating the alliance will carry out even the most imprudently made
 threats when another sovereign nation refuses to knuckle under to its
 demands. But such a victory is dubious. The war NATO started in
 Kosovo -- the first offensive action in its history -- may have harmed the
 alliance's credibility far more than it helped. What NATO officials perceive as
 preserving its credibility and demonstrating its resolve, much of the
 rest of the world sees as bully tactics, leading them to ask whether America
 one day will, in the words of the New York Times' Abe Rosenthal, "fly over
 their lands to bomb them into submission for not carrying out our orders." As
 he went on to say, we should use our brains first and bombs last instead of
 the other way around.

 An objective observer, I think, must conclude that, on paper at least,
 Mr. Milosevic has achieved, albeit at a very high price, what he sought at
 Rambouillet, while NATO, far from achieving a great triumph, has
 suffered an ignominious defeat, causing millions of innocent civilians great
 suffering in the process. The danger now is that NATO may concede Kosovo to an
 armed and 

[CTRL] Beanie Virus

1999-06-30 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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From the BBC


 Tuesday, June 29, 1999 Published at 18:02 GMT 19:02 UK
 Picture
 Picture
 Sci/Tech
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 New virus spills your beans
 Picture
 Virus threatens document security
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 A new strain of computer virus could distribute your highly
 confidential documents all over the Internet.

 Anti-virus developers are warning that they cannot develop an
 antidote until the virus appears. Far from destroying vital
 files, the virus will make sure everyone can see them.

 The new virus is expected to be a variant of either Melissa or
 the Explore.Zip worm, both of which have cost businesses millions
 in recent weeks.

 Both Melissa and the Explore.Zip worm rely on people opening
 email attachments. Once into the computer the virus sends a
 message to everyone in the victim's in-box and then destroys
 every file written in Microsoft Word, Excel or Powerpoint, among
 others.

 New virus on the block

 One variant has already appeared. PrettyPark replicates itself by
 sending copies to everyone in the victim's address book.

 It waits silently until the victim is on the Internet, then sends
 lists of the victim's user names, password files and address
 lists to Internet Relay Chat channels. Anti-virus developers are
 expecting the next step to be a virus which roots around in your
 files and then posts your documents across the Internet.

 "The virus wouldn't be able to tell which of your documents are
 secret. It might just post your shopping list, or it could be a
 highly sensitive company document.

 "What's more, it would appear as if you sent it," says Graham
 Cluley of Sophos Anti-Virus.

 Several anti-virus makers already have an answer to PrettyPark.
 But they cannot build a defence against future variants until
 they encounter them.

 Java and ActiveX - next infection target

 It is predicted that the next generation of viral infections will
 hit small Webpage programmes called applets, written in Java and
 ActiveX.

 A recent survey revealed that more than half of medium-sized
 organisations using an intranet had no security policy in place
 to respond to the threat of attacks on Java applets.

 Recent estimates indicate that Melissa, Explore.Zip and other
 malicious attacks have cost US business $7.6bn this year alone.
 The viruses cannot infect Macintosh or Unix systems.


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Re: [CTRL] Biohazard bacteria stolen

1999-06-30 Thread nessie

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But hey, if you WANTED to spread contagion in SF, it'd be a lot easier
just to spray your anthrax aerosol [or whatever] onto the crowds at
Fisherman's Wharf, Pier 39, Ghirardelli Square.  Or in a passenger
terminal at SFO [the airport], making sure that your  little "gift" was
delivered far and wide.


In 1950 two USN minesweapers teamed up and down a couple miles outside the
Gate  (ie. close enough to see from my roof) spraying serratia into the
air. This "simulated bio-war agent" put eleven people in the hospital and
killed one. It infected every single resident of the Bay Area clear out to
Walnut Creek. Even today incidence of serratia is many times the national
average.

The story is related in detail by Jeremy Paxon and Robert Harris in their
seminal book A Higher Form of Killing, ISBN 0-8090-1507-2, which I
highly recommend to any of you fools out there who still believe the
government has your best interest at heart.

If Paxman and Harris whet your appetite you should then  check out Peace
or Pestilence: Biological Warfare and How to Avoid it by Theodor
Rosebury, Whittlesey House, McGraw-Hill Book Company, New York, 1949. It's
out of print and hard to find but well worth the effort. Rosebury headed
up the aerosol division of America's CBW reearch center at Ft Detrick.,
Md.  during WWII.  Compare what he says about brucellosis spray techniques
with what Jon Rappaport says in AIDS, Inc. about immune system breakdown
caused by inhaled brucellosis mimicing AIDS. Then read Acid Dreams:The
CIA, LSD  the Sixties Rebellion by Martin Lee and Bruce Schlain (ISBN
0-8021-3062-3). Pay particular attention to the account of government
agent George White's best known op. He's the guy who set up the whorehouse
in North Beach in the fifties, dosed the johns, and filmed their antics
through a big two-way mirror. Then consider the mirrored sex clubs that
sprang up a few years later and about a mile away south of Market. Then
think about their air conditioning systems. Then think about all the guys
who hung out there  who suddenly died from immune disfunction. Get back to
us with your conclusions.

FWIW, survivalist Kurt Saxon, author of Poor Man's James Bond Vol. I-IV
and The Survivor Vol. I-II, says Legionaire's Disease was ricin powder
in the air conditioning. He also distributes a video showing how to make
your own ricin in the basement.

And let's not forget sub bomb grade but still highly radioactive dust,
both on the black market and in the atmosphere. Inhale; that's Chernobyl
your breathing.

Oh yeah, and I almost forgot: have a nice day.

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[CTRL] Miscellmania

1999-06-30 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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From federal.com/jun28-99/s4awk.html


 And Now, The Witch-hunt
 Editorial

 -
 --- By MARVIN LEE
 -
 ---


 The past three years have seen revelations of Chinese
 contributions to President Clinton, transfer of U.S. military
 technology to the Chinese, obstruction of congressional
 investigations by Congressional Democrats, and efforts to
 diminish the issue by the mainstream media.

 Last week the final twist in the Chinese penetration of the U.S.
 security apparatus was emphasized: the witch-hunt by the Clinton
 administration for anti-communist and anti-PLA employees within
 the administration.

 A hearing of the Burton Committee last week focused on how these
 anti-communists and anti-PLA national security officials were in
 a position to thwart Chinese espionage and technology acquisition
 and hence had to be stopped by the Clinton administration:



 Jonathan D. Fox, an attorney at the Defense Special Weapons
 Agency, was forced to rewrite a 1997 memorandum to change his
 conclusion that China was a nuclear arms "proliferator" to one in
 which China was deemed a "nonproliferator."

 Edward J. McCallum of the DOE's Office of Safeguards and Security
 testified that he was forced out of his job two months ago in
 retaliation for his repeated warnings that security was failing
 at the nation's nuclear weapons laboratories.

 F. Michael Maloof of the Defense Threat Reduction Agency
 testified that he has been "isolated, ignored and subject to
 political retribution" for refusing to temper his belief that the
 Chinese military poses a significant security threat to the
 United States.

 Peter M. Leitner of the Defense Technology Security
 Administration, testified that he has been subjected to "one
 adverse harassing act after another" since he appeared last
 summer before the Cox Committee to tell the truth.



 These were the brave individuals who went public despite the
 threats and intimidation. What about all those individuals who
 were successfully silenced by the Clinton administration? We will
 not hear from them until the Clinton administration is out of
 power and unable to do them any more harm.


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 U.S. reassures Turkey on pipeline

 Wednesday, 30 June 1999 0:31 (GMT)

 (UPI Focus)
 U.S. reassures Turkey on pipeline
 By MARTIN SIEFF
 UPI National Security Affairs Editor
WASHINGTON, June 29 (UPI) - U.S. policymakers have moved to
reassure
 the Turkish government they still are committed to construction
 of a pipeline from Baku in Azerbaijan across Turkey to the
 Mediterranean Sea.
Earlier this month, the Clinton administration authorized a
 feasibility study by the U.S. Trade and Development Agency on the
 possibility of building an oil pipeline across the Balkans from
 the port of Burgos in Bulgaria across Macedonia and Albania to
 the Mediterranean.
Reports of this study provoked a wave of concern in Turkey
that such
 a trans-Balkans pipeline might mean the United States was turning
 its back on the proposed pipeline from Baku to Ceyhan in
 southeast Turkey on the Mediterranean.
But U.S. government officials told UPI today that while the
trans-
 Balkans pipeline or some other additional pipeline was likely to
 be built, Washington remained firmly committed to the Baku-Ceyhan
 project to pump oil from southern Caspian oil fields controlled
 by Azerbaijan.
U.S. officials said the trans-Balkan pipeline route will be
studied
 as a way to transport oil pumped along a route from other Caspian
 Sea oil fields controlled by Kazakhstan to the Russian Black Sea
 port of Novorossiysk by the proposed Caspian Pipeline Consortium
 pipeline.
Chevron announced in April that it had begun work on a marine
 terminal for the proposed CPC pipeline from the
 Kazakhstan-controlled Tengiz oil fields in the Caspian to
 Novorossiysk.
This pipeline is scheduled to be completed by mid-2001 and to
have an
 initial capability of 560,000 barrels per day, with a peak
 capacity of 1.5 million barrels per day. Oil tankers would then
 transport the oil from Novorossiysk across the Black Sea.
But the Russians and Western oil companies involved in the
project
 are looking for ways to pipe the oil to the West without having
 to ship it through the narrow Turkish-controlled Bosporus strait,
 where possible oil spills could cause serious environmental
 hazards.
Russia has pushed strongly for the building of this pipeline
as it
 will give Russia a lucrative share in transporting the Caspian
 oil and a key strategic position controlling its flow.
But the Turks 

[CTRL] 'S a Mad, Mad, Mad World Order

1999-06-30 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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From polyconomics.com

 June 29, 1999

 It Was Madeleine’s Fault

 Memo To: President Bill Clinton
 From: Jude Wanniski
 Re: What went wrong?

 In your press conference the other day, I noticed that you
 expressed puzzlement that it took so long for the bombing
 campaign to bring Slobodan Milosevic to his knees. Your Secretary
 of State, Madeleine Albright, told you it would take three days
 max and it turned out to be 78. If you really are puzzled, you
 should ask around, and you will find that Ms. Albright is
 incompetent at what she does over there in Foggy Bottom. She may
 be better suited to driving the tank around that Michael Dukakis
 used in his 1988 campaign. I don’t have 20-20 foresight, Mr.
 President, but even I could see from a distance two years ago
 that the Lady Diplomat was one of the "Ten Most Dangerous People
 in the World." Hey, Milosevic did not even make the list. I told
 my friend, and yours, Jack Kemp, back then that this lady was
 going to cause a lot of problems for the world, but he said maybe
 we should give her a chance. Jack is a compassionate
 conservative. Anyway, now that the dust has settled, several
 thousand people are dead or maimed, and at least $100 billion in
 real property has been turned to ash. (Although I see in Monday’s
 NYTimes that the Serbs played that old Russian trick on our NATO
 commanders, setting out cardboard trucks and tanks for them to
 blow up from 10,000 feet. Each missile expended cost at least,
 what, $2 million? And the Serbs still have all their real stuff
 in caves and places even the Nazis could not find.)

 Ask around, Mr. President, and you will begin to realize Ms.
 Albright is not going to get the Nobel Peace Prize for her
 diplomatic tour de force at Rambouillet. If I were Jack, I would
 not stop at calling for her resignation, as he does in the
 accompanying op-ed in the Sunday Washington Times. Alas, Jack is
 kinder and gentler than I am, at least lately. I also would have
 called for the resignation of your Secretary of Defense, William
 Cohen, who in fact should be named the Poet Laureate of the
 Library of Congress. His pay also should be docked until he pays
 for all those missiles he dropped on all those cardboard tanks,
 when he was not dropping bombs on convoys of Kosovo civilians who
 were trying to get out of his way. By the way, you might not have
 had to read Jack’s op-ed here, reprinted from the Washington
 Times. But when he sent it first to the NYTimes, which he knows
 you read without fail, In their infinite wisdom on what you
 should read and not read, the Times editors rejected it without
 comment after sniffing it for a week. Read on, Mr. President.

 * * * * *

 June 27, 1999, Sunday, Final Edition
 Artfully Woven Web of Deceit
 By Jack Kemp

 Official Washington and the sleepy "establishment" media are agog
 over President Clinton's "great victory" in the Balkans. Even the
 president's critics grant him a stupendous foreign policy
 success. "Victory," screams the editorial headline of the Weekly
 Standard, and the editorialist goes on to proclaim, "Slobodan
 Milosevic's capitulation to U.S. and NATO demands represents a
 triumph for...President Clinton, and for the small but stalwart
 group of Republicans...who supported the war from beginning to
 end." The National Review's senior editor Peter Rodman said on
 C-Span's "Washington Journal" that it would be "churlish" of Bill
 Clinton's critics now to criticize the Clinton/ NATO policy in
 Kosovo after events have proved it right.

 "Milosevic's capitulation to NATO demands?" " NATO proved right?"
 My goodness, what delusions are emanating from inside the
 Washington Beltway; what fabrications are being perpetrated on
 the American people. The truth of this war is the exact opposite
 of the establishment's portrayal. It was an unnecessary, and in
 my opinion illegal and unconstitutional, war from the beginning.
 It failed on every score to achieve the goals articulated to
 justify it, exacerbated the very problems it sought to remedy and
 created new problems that will plague America and the Balkans for
 years to come. It was, in short, a debacle, an "international
 Waco," which no amount of "spinning" by NATO and the media can
 erase. We could have had the same, or perhaps even a better deal
 at Rambouillet if we had been willing to, in Winston Churchill's
 words, "jaw jaw instead of war war!"

 President Clinton, spurred on by U.S. Secretary of State
 Madeleine Albright in particular, led NATO to start an unprovoked
 and unjustified war out of pique because the Yugoslavian
 government, as would any other sovereign nation, refused to
 consent to two provisions of the Rambouillet proposal that were
 insisted on by the Atlantic Alliance: (1) that Belgrade allow a
 foreign military alliance ( NATO) to occupy every square inch of
 its sovereign territory, billet its forces wherever it desired
 and receive immunity before the fact against "any claims 

Re: [CTRL] Private Lives Laid Bare on Net

1999-06-30 Thread nessie

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 See, a lot of men are incapable of making it themselves!

Don't believe it. They just play dumb around women so they will

 be taken care of!

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[CTRL] ACLU Newsfeed (fwd)

1999-06-30 Thread William Hugh Tunstall

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Subject: 06-30-99 -- ACLU Newsfeed: Supreme Court Term Wrapup, More!



 IN THE ACLU NEWSROOM

   **The Latest News Can Always Be Found At:**
  http://www.aclu.org/news/pressind.html

* Ford Foundation Gives $7 Million to
   ACLU Endowment Campaign

* ACLU Savors Supreme Court Victories,
   but Sees 'Uncertain' Future for Civil Liberties

* Campaign to Amend Constitution Loses Ground
   Despite Multi-Million Dollar Campaign

* ACLU Cautions Senate to Protect
   Both Civil Rights and Religious Liberty

* Employment Protection Bill Reintroduced;
   Measure would Protect Gays in the Workplace

* ACLU Challenges Michigan Cyber-Censorship Law,
   Citing Commerce Clause and Free Speech Rights

* List of other recent ACLU Press Releases

-

 Ford Foundation Gives $7 Million to
 ACLU Endowment Campaign

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Monday, June 28, 1999

NEW YORK--In a display of substantial confidence in and dedication to
key areas of
the American Civil Liberties Union's program, the Ford Foundation has
contributed $7
million to its endowment fund, the Trust for the Bill of Rights, the
largest gift the ACLU has received to date.

The $7 million from the Foundation, together with other significant
commitments, has
enabled the ACLU to surpass its initial goal of raising $25 million for
its first ever
endowment six months ahead of schedule.

The Foundation said that the contribution is the second largest
endowment gift it has
given in the past decade and among the largest ever in its history of
giving.

"The Ford Foundation has long supported the ACLU's essential role in
protecting
individual rights and fighting discrimination," said Susan Berresford,
the Foundation's
President. "This gift will help ensure that future generations will
continue to benefit from the ACLU's important work."

As a litigant in virtually every important Supreme Court case involving
civil liberties, the ACLU has been central to the development of
democratic ideals in America. But the
fight, according to Ira Glasser, Executive Director of the national
ACLU, is far from
over.

"The ACLU has had no better partner and friend than the Ford
Foundation," Glasser
said. "The Trust for the Bill of Rights was created to allow us to
continue our defense of the Bill of Rights, eradicate invidious
discrimination and protect individual civil liberties into the next
century. It is fitting that the largest single gift to this effort, and
in fact the largest gift ever to the ACLU, should come from Ford."

The gift will continue to support the ACLU's work on behalf of
reproductive rights,
voting rights and against discrimination based on race, gender, national
origin or
immigration status.

Glasser noted that the endowment gift would not preclude the ACLU from
applying for other grants from the Foundation in the future.

In making its gift, the Ford Foundation has issued a challenge to the
ACLU and its
supporters to raise $2 for each $1 donated by the Foundation. With the
fulfillment of
this $14 million challenge and completion of a "second phase" campaign,
the Trust will total more than $40 million.

"This is an unprecedented challenge and opportunity for us," said
Glasser. "When we
first explored the possibility of building a $25 million endowment, we
weren't even sure it could be done. Now the Ford Foundation has not only
ensured that we will meet our goal, but is challenging us to raise our
sights even higher."

At the time the ACLU publicly launched its endowment campaign in May
1997, it had
already raised more than $10 million towards its December 1999 goal of
$25 million.

The Ford Foundation, established in 1936, is a private, nonprofit
institution that serves
as a resource for innovative people and institutions worldwide. Its
goals are to
strengthen democratic values, reduce poverty and injustice, promote
international
cooperation, and advance human achievement.

Headquartered in New York City, the ACLU has 53 staffed affiliates in
major cities,
more than 300 chapters nationwide, and a legislative office in
Washington, D.C. The
ACLU Foundation (ACLUF) is the national tax-deductible, 501(c)(3) arm of
the
ACLU. Its combined annual budget is approximately $45 million.

The bulk of the annual budget is raised by contributions from individual
members --
275,000 strong -- plus grants from foundations. Eighty percent of the
budget directly
supports litigation, legislation and public education programs. Fund
raising costs average twelve percent of total expenses, and management
and administration account for an additional 8 percent. This level of
efficiency consistently ranks the ACLU and ACLUF among the nation's
bestrewn charitable organizations, with high approval 

[CTRL] 16 real facts ....

1999-06-30 Thread Andrew Hennessey

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16 real facts that should be taught to our children.

1. government and nation are as real as teletubbies
2. people pretend to believe in the names they call each other
3. don't trust someone if they offer you candy or a way out
4. if someone says they speak for God they're lying
5. government puts bad things in your candy, coke and pizza
6. bad men want to take mommy away because she complains about this
7. bad men want to hurt your daddy because they don't like the colour
   of his skin.
8. schoolteacher wants to tell you lies and horrible things
9. but don't tell mommy or you'll never see her again
10.bad men want to break up mummy and daddy and all your friends
11.bad men want to put a bit of metal into you which will make you behave
12.rich people and people in uniforms and on tv are not well
13.bad people want to kill mummy and daddy if they get too old
14.newspapers, magazines, comics, videos and games are trying to make you sick
15.bad people never listen and never learn
16.don't fret, there's a lot of good people.

Andrew Hennessey
Transformation Studies Group
Edinburgh   Scotland

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Re: [CTRL] Biohazard bacteria stolen

1999-06-30 Thread Ric Carter

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- Original Message -
From: nessie [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 And let's not forget sub bomb grade but still highly radioactive dust,
 both on the black market and in the atmosphere. Inhale; that's Chernobyl
 your breathing.

I also respire a nice mix of smog, thanks to the highly successful
auto/oil/rubber conspiracy to shut-down less-polluting mass-transit
in the US.  Not to mention the residue of all the shit China burns.

 Oh yeah, and I almost forgot: have a nice day.

That's "have a nice spare-the-air day" around here, nes.  gag

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Re: [CTRL] Fw: Artfully Woven Web of Deceit

1999-06-30 Thread Ric Carter

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- Original Message -
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  June 27, 1999
  Washington Times

Moonie agit-prop.

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[CTRL] Radio Talk Show Host Hits Below the Belt

1999-06-30 Thread El Snatcher

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Radio Talk Show Host Hits Below the Belt

Pigdog Journal (www.pigdog.org)
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Reported 1999-06-30 03:02:19

by El Snatcher

"Reverse Speech" huckster and talk show host David Oates' sputtering
career has been utterly rewound by Art Bell. Oates swears in an
affidavit -- part of an abortive attempt to get a restraining order
against Art Bell -- that Art and his radio network, Jacor, used their
combined muscle to intimidate Talk Radio Networks into firing him. He
goes on to say that to top it all off, Art posted a link to a
disgusting nude photo of Oates, which was placed on the Net by a
former chatroom girlfriend.
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[CTRL] Australian Net Censor Law Passes

1999-06-30 Thread Alan Howard
Title: 


Australian Net Censor Law Passesby Stewart Taggart 
8:15a.m.30.Jun.99.PDTCANBERRA, Australia -- The 
political leaders of this nation on Wednesday passed into law one of the world's 
most far-reaching online content censorship regimes. 
The rules -- which take effect 1 January, 2000 -- enable Australian 
government regulators to order domestic Internet service providers (ISPs) to 
take down indecent or offensive Web sites housed on their servers, and also 
require they block access to certain domestic or overseas-based content. 



See also: Australia's 
Brave New World 



"We're on fairly new ground here," said Stephen Nugent, special projects 
manager for the Australian Broadcasting 
Authority (ABA). "The codes of practice envisaged under this legislation are 
probably more detailed, and cover a greater range of matters, than I have seen 
in any other country." 
Known as the "Broadcasting Services 
Amendment (Online Services) Act", the measure was approved by the House of 
Representatives late Wednesday night, according to a staffer in the office 
ofCommunications Minister Richard Alston. The measure had passed the more 
contentious Australian Senate on 26 May. 
The new law will institute a movie-like rating system for Internet content. 
The ABA will order ISPs to take down content on their servers rated X (Sexually 
Explicit) or RC (Refused Classification) within 24 hours of being notified. 
For opponents of online content restrictions, the struggle will now shift to 
cyberspace itself. They believe the Internet simply will prove too large, too 
decentralized, and too fast-moving for regulators anywhere to successfully block 
access to any content for long. 
Among the defiant is Perth-based online entrepreneur Bernadette Taylor. Known 
to her Web site admirers as a "Virtual Girlfriend," she 
offers nude photos of herself and personalized email communication to paying 
members. 
To Taylor, passage of the law merely begins a hide-and-seek game she 
professes little doubt she'llwin. With a Web site housed in Dallas, Texas, 
she plans to stay one step ahead of the nation's blocking mechanisms for as long 
as the law lasts. 
"With a bit of effort the ABA could find (and block) me every day but they'd 
have to spend five to 10 minutes doing it," she says. "In the meantime, I'm 
compiling a mail list which has all the people that want notification of where I 
am." 
She believes her Australian-based users will encounter little ongoing 
difficulty accessing her site, either through using encryption software or 
through proxy servers that disguise the source of material. 
One such proxy server has been set up by South Australian Web site builder 
and e-commerce businessman Mike Russell. By visiting www.whois.com.au, Australian Web users will 
be able to access any site they want without disclosing where they're visiting. 
Since banning proxy servers isn't included in the legislation, Russell says 
there will be little Australian regulators can do. 
Among other defiant gestures, Russell is calling for a worldwide boycott by 
Web sites of visitors from "gov.au" domains -- recommending all such visitors be 
redirected by webmasters to the home page of Electronic Frontiers Australia, the online 
civil liberties group that spearheaded a failed effort to stop the law. 
In introducing the online content legislation, the center-right government of 
Prime Minister John Howard argued that some controls are needed to limit access 
by children to pornographic content on the Internet, as well as other material 
that could be deemed offensive. 
Passage of the law comes amid research showing Internet use is rising rapidly 
in Australia. Figures released Wednesday by the Australian Bureau of Statistics 
showed nearly 18 percent of Australia's households now have some form of 
Internet access -- a rise of nearly 50 percent in one year. Nearly 40 percent of 
Internet households in Australia now access the Internet on a daily basis, the 
researchers found. 
To Grant Bayley, a Sydney spokesman for 2600 Australia, an organization of technology 
enthusiasts, the fact that the law comes into force on 1 January, 2000 provides 
at least one indication that Australian lawmakers may not have been fully 
cognizant on all the issues involved. 
"January 1 is not going to be one of the best days in the world to implement 
this," he said, referring to the long-feared Year 2000 problem in which 
worldwide computers may start acting up due to the millennial date change. 
"There are going to be much bigger problems around," he said. 



[CTRL] Fwd: Re: [CIA-DRUGS] Question about Mafias

1999-06-30 Thread Kris Millegan




Who knows? The question about the Colombians doesn't make sense to me.

It is a total mistake to believe that a Mafia, any more than an intelliegnce
service is an inflexible,  monlith. The mafias and professional gamblers
always have bets on both sides of the street. Meyer Lansky taught that.

Opportunism governs. You still don't grasp this. Go rent the Godfather Parts
I The world does not exist in the two dimensional stereotypes you have
been taught to think in.  Israeli Mossad agents in South America worked with
former SS men Auguste Ricord and Klaus Barbie. The CIA worked WITH KGB in
many cases. The factions shift behind the skirts you call democrat and
republican. Everybody does anything they have to tp keep any other faction
from having an advantage. Everybody deals drugs in South America, Communist
rebel and Fascist dictator. Why? Because coca has been a part of culture for
thousands of years. Same with marijuana.

The Chinese are buying Amercian stock like crazy over the Internet. They
don't want to blow us up. They want to own us. Everybody plays against
everybody. The only thing they all agree is keeping the masses ignorant
about how the money really works. The reasons they do that is beacuse they
know, even while they fight each other, that they don't stand a chance
otherwise.

Mike
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 1999 4:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [CIA-DRUGS] Question about Mafias


From: David Goldman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Since we have been discussing mafias, and their "loyalties" or
relationships to one or another political party, why would they cast
their
lots in with one or another party instead of both, for their own
benefit.
Does it appear that the Colombians are more flexible than others,
since
their involvement with Iran Contra related to both Democrats and
Republicans?

David Goldman

If they gave equal dollar amounts to both parties, that's equal to
zero support for either one. They buy one way and hedge the other.
-Bob


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Who 
knows? The question about the Colombians doesn't make sense to 
me.

It is 
a total mistake to believe that a Mafia, any more than an intelliegnce service 
is an inflexible, monlith. The mafias and professional gamblers always 
have bets on both sides of the street. Meyer Lansky taught 
that.

Opportunism governs. You still don't grasp this. Go rent the Godfather 
Parts III. The world does not exist in the two dimensional stereotypes you 
have been taught to think in. Israeli Mossad agents in South America 
worked with former SS men Auguste Ricord and Klaus Barbie. The CIA worked WITH 
KGB in many cases. The factions shift behind the skirts you call democrat and 
republican. Everybody does anything they have to tp keep any other faction from 
having an advantage. Everybody deals drugs in South America, Communist rebel and 
Fascist dictator. Why? Because coca has been a part of culture for thousands of 
years. Same with marijuana.

The 
Chinese are buying Amercian stock like crazy over the Internet. They don't want 
to blow us up. They want to own us. Everybody plays against everybody. The only 
thing they all agree is keeping the masses ignorant about how the money really 
works. The reasons they do that is beacuse they know, even while they fight each 
other, that they don't stand a chance otherwise.

Mike

-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of BobSent: Wednesday, 
June 30, 1999 4:36 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
Re: [CIA-DRUGS] Question about Mafias
From: David Goldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Since we have been discussing mafias, and their loyalties 
or relationships to one or another political party, why would they 
cast their lots in with one or another party instead of both, for 
their own benefit. Does it appear that the Colombians are more 
flexible than others, since their involvement with Iran Contra 
related to both Democrats and Republicans? 
David GoldmanIf they gave equal dollar amounts to both 
parties, that's equal to zero support for either one. They buy one way 
and hedge the other. 
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Re: [CTRL] Major Solar Storm

1999-06-30 Thread Teo One Thousand

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In a message dated 6/30/99 4:13:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

  In March 1989, almost the entire electrical grid supplying
   the province of Quebec collapsed - in less than 2 minutes -
   due to powerful electrical currents that were induced into
   Hydro Quebecs electrical power lines during one of the
   strongest geomagnetic storms on record.

  What a great "rational" explanation for tests of EMP technology by the
  military.
  I wonder if the Pentagon is "watching the skies" too, waiting for the
  go-ahead?


You don't REALLY wonder about that do you?!
Teo1000

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Re: [CTRL] Major Solar Storm

1999-06-30 Thread Daniel Holly

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If the Yugos had their act together they would have set
off an EMP right on Wall St.
Would have stopped the NWO right
in it's tracks.

Actually it doesn't even have to be a *device*
Two men in a van can beam out some very strong
EMP...Just cruising around lower Manhattan..






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Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 1999 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Major Solar Storm


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| In a message dated 99-06-30 15:57:17 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
|
|  In March 1989, almost the entire electrical grid
supplying
|  the province of Quebec collapsed - in less than 2
minutes -
|  due to powerful electrical currents that were induced
into
|  Hydro Quebecs electrical power lines during one of the
|  strongest geomagnetic storms on record.
|
| What a great "rational" explanation for tests of EMP
technology by the
| military.
| I wonder if the Pentagon is "watching the skies" too,
waiting for the
| go-ahead?
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[CTRL] URGENT ACTION ITEM - House May Vote Thursday to Kill KYC (fwd)

1999-06-30 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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URGENT ACTION ITEM!
FROM THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY
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Watergate Office Building
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Washington DC 20037
Phone: (202) 333-0008 Ext. 222
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For information about the party: (800) ELECT-US
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June 29, 1999
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House may vote Thursday on measure to kill "Know Your Customer"
rule

* Immediate action required! Please telephone your Representative

We've just been informed that the U.S. House may vote Thursday,
July 1, on an amendment that would kill all "Know Your Customer"
rules and regulations permanently.

The measure is called the Paul-Barr-Campbell Financial Privacy
Amendment to HR 10. The amendment would accomplish all of the
goals of the Know Your Customer Sunset Act (HR 516).

Please contact your House representative immediately and ask him
or her to *support* this amendment.

Note that we can't be certain that this vote will actually take
place on Thursday, but we're acting on the latest information
available on Capitol Hill as of Tuesday evening. If we waited
until we were certain of a vote, it would be too late to alert
you!

Those of you whose House representative sits on the Rules
Committee can play an especially important role.  (See below.)

WHAT TO DO: Immediately call the Capitol Hill switchboard at
202-225-3121 or 202-224-3121 and ask to be connected to your
representative's office.  Then politely tell the staffer, or
leave a voice mail message, saying:

(1)  You are a voter in their district, and leave your name,
 address, and telephone number.

(2)  Ask them to vote YES on the Paul-Barr-Campbell Financial
 Privacy Amendment to HR 10 when it comes to a vote on
 Thursday.

The Capitol switchboard is open 24 hours a day, so please call
regardless of when you get this message. If your representative
has voice mail (and most do) you will be connected to their
office. Please call if you get this anytime before late Thursday
night.

Remember, call -- don't e-mail -- because there's not enough time
for the office staff to download, print, and count e-mail
messages before the vote.

WHAT TO DO IF YOUR REPRESENTATIVE SITS ON THE RULES COMMITTEE:

Look at the list of the 13 Rules Committee members below and see
if one of them represents your district.  If so, call
202-225-3121 or 202-224-3121 and ask to be connected to their
office.  Then tell them:

(1)  You are a voter in their district, and leave your name, address,
 and telephone number.

(2)  Vote to *ALLOW* a full House vote on the Paul-Barr-Campbell
 Financial Privacy Amendment to HR 10.  Tell them you know this
 amendment would kill the Know Your Customer regulation, which is
 a violation of your financial privacy.

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[CTRL] Caspia: 07-01-99

1999-06-30 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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 WSWS : News  Analysis : Europe : Russia

 The struggle for Caspian oil, the crisis in Russia and the
 breakup of the Commonwealth of Independent States

 By Patrick Richter
 1 July 1999

 Back to screen version

 As NATO troops occupy Kosovo and the media is busy justifying the
 bombing of Yugoslavia, new struggles are developing away from the
 front lines which could lead to much greater military
 conflagrations. Such conflicts are taking place on the territory
 of the former Soviet Union, the source of the world's largest
 untapped reserves of oil and gas and a region where Russian
 influence has declined dramatically.

 Following the dissolution of the Soviet Union on December 8,
 1991, the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS) was founded,
 consisting of Russia, White Russia and the Ukraine. On December
 21 of the same year a further eight former Soviet republics
 joined the CIS—the states of Armenia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan,
 Kyrgyzstan, Moldova, Tajikistan, Turkmenia and Uzbekistan. The
 Commonwealth was founded in Alma Ata, the former capital of
 Kazakhstan. In 1993 the Caucasus republic of Georgia also joined
 the union.

 Russian power was the cement which held the CIS together. However
 the economic, political and military weakening of Russia has
 brought into the open the centrifugal forces which had led to the
 dissolution of the Soviet Union in the first place and have
 marked the CIS from its very beginning. Two events have
 accelerated this process: the financial crisis in Russia of
 August 1998 and the political humiliation of Russia by NATO in
 the war against Yugoslavia.

 At the beginning of the 1990s Russia was able, with its powerful
 military apparatus, to exert its influence over various political
 conflicts taking place within the former Soviet republics. By
 stationing troops Russia was able to ensure a temporary status
 quo between Armenia and Azerbaijan in the conflict over
 Nagorno-Karabakh; in Georgia it supported the Abkhazia separatist
 movement; in Tajikistan it maintained the weak pro-Moscow puppet
 government of Imomali Rokhmonov against the Islamic opposition
 (UTO); in Moldova it backed the Russian separatist Transnistria
 republic.

 More recently Moscow's military grip over these republics has
 weakened, while new conflicts have arisen and old ones have
 reemerged. This development is bound up with Russia's own decline
 and the fact that the Central Asian and Caucasus regions have
 developed relations in other directions.

 Overall internal trade between the CIS states has fallen by
 two-thirds since 1991. The percentage of foreign trade has
 declined from 78 percent in 1991 to 24 percent today. Trade of
 White Russia, the Ukraine, Moldova and Kazakhstan with Russia is
 down between 40 and 60 percent; between Russia and the Caucasus
 republics of Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan trade has fallen by
 an average of 23 percent; between Russia and the rest of the
 Central Asian republics (Turkmenia, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and
 Tajikistan) the decline on average is 13 percent. While the
 Ukraine, Moldova and Georgia are striving to develop close links
 with the European Union, the Central Asian republics and
 Azerbaijan aim to develop relations with Turkey, Iran and China.

 This process has intensified considerably since last year's
 financial crisis in Russia. Up to that point Russia, as the most
 stable of the CIS economies, was able to artificially maintain
 links to the republics by buying products which were
 uncompetitive on the world market and making available
 non-repayable credits.

 Since the August crisis, however, Russia has been “transformed
 from a centre of gravitation to a source of economic tremors. The
 main concern of all its former partners has been to put
 sufficient distance between themselves and Russia”, according to
 Yuri Shishkov, deputy chairman of the Institute for World Economy
 and International Relations of the Russian Academy of Science.
 “All of the integration programmes within the framework of CIS
 are a thing of the past”, he wrote in the weekly Obshaya Gazeta
 of May 13-19, 1999.

 The atmosphere between Russia and the “partner countries” has
 cooled considerably. Whereas a chorus of “hope and optimism”
 greeted the founding of the CIS, today it is regarded as a
 “listless organisation”, whose authority is not taken seriously
 by any of the member countries. Kyrgyzstan, for example, recently
 joined the World Trade Organisation (WTO) in open defiance of the
 customs regulations drawn up by five of the CIS member countries.
 Turkmenia, which was formerly only able to offer its gas to the
 world market via Russian pipelines and with a Russian subsidy,
 now delivers through Iran and is gradually breaking all its
 relations with Russia. Train connections and travel without a
 visa between Moscow and the Turkmenian capital, Ashkhabad, have
 been stopped.

 The most significant organisation to emerge as a challenger to
 

[CTRL] KLAmity

1999-06-30 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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Can't "Just Say No", can't "Just Say Yes", CAN say "never
identified credible evidence"  as a guess ... 


From Morrock

 THE MORROCK NEWS SERVICE

 Powell
 John David Powell is a former broadcast/print journalist and
 public radio network commentator. He now lives in Texas where he
 is a writer and a communications professional. His email address
 is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he has a Web page at
 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Agora/3518/

 Previous Powell columns

 -

 Collusion or stupidity



 By JOHN DAVID POWELL
 TMNS Correspondent
 June 29, 1999




 "The U.S. government has never identified credible evidence of
 these drug-running charges." -- State Department spokesman James
 Rubin

 The KLA is no "choirboy circle." -- Secretary of Defense William
 Cohen

 One does not know whether to laugh at or to be afraid of Rubin’s
 comments about the Kosovo Liberation Army. Rubin told reporters
 on June 23 that news reports of drug money buying KLA weapons are
 not corroborated by American intelligence agencies.

 These are the same intelligence agencies, remember, that didn’t
 know there was a building full of Chinese diplomats sitting in
 downtown Belgrade.

 Cohen knows the KLA. In early April, American officials and KLA
 leaders held secret talks about supplying the terrorists with
 heavy weapons and other support, according to the April 26, 1999,
 issue of U.S. News  World Report. Cohen later told Republican
 senators the KLA was no "choirboy circle," according to the
 magazine.

 There is an outside chance U.S. intelligence agencies are not up
 to speed with the KLA. Writing in the May/June 1999 issue of
 Foreign Affairs magazine, former New York Times Balkans Bureau
 Chief Chris Hedges writes that American spies were busy tracking
 militant Islamist groups and Iranian agents in Bosnia and failed
 to see the KLA’s rise.

 "Indeed, some diplomats argued as late as last year about whether
 the shadowy group really existed -- even as small armed bands
 roamed Drenica in central Kosovo," Hedges reports.

 Stories about the Balkan Connection have been around at least
 fourteen years. The Wall Street Journal reported September 9,
 1985, on heroin trafficking "conducted by, among others, a
 loosely organized group of ethnic Albanians, centered in New
 York." U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency officials claimed the Balkan
 Connection moved as much as forty percent of the U.S. heroin
 supply, according to the WSJ.

 Jump nine years to November 1, 1994. The Guardian (UK) reported
 Europe’s police chiefs feared the Balkan Connection would
 strengthen Kosovo Albanian drug syndicates. "We have enormous
 problems with Kosovars and Albanians," said Bernard Soldini,
 deputy director of Lausanne’s anti-drug force.

 The Swiss were not alone, according to the paper. "Albania is now
 a priority for us," said Bernard Frahi with the United Nations’
 drug control program.

 The Observatire Geopolitique Des Drogues, a Paris-based
 narcotics-monitoring group that does research for the European
 Commission, released a report in June 1994 that claimed Albanian
 groups in Kosovo were trading heroin for weapons for use in a
 brewing conflict. The report said a large influx of arms "is
 fueling geopolitical hopes and fears," and added Albanian leaders
 "are inherently in favour of an uprising in Kosovo."

 Exactly four years later -- June 9, 1998 -- Agence France-Presse
 reported a group of Kosovars smuggling arms back to their
 province were caught by Italian police in a country-wide
 anti-drug operation.

 "The Kosovar Albanian gang allegedly used drug money to buy the
 weapons in Italy, which were then sent to Kosovo where a
 three-month conflict is pitting Serbian forces against armed
 ethnic Albanians seeking independence," AFP reported.

 Milan’s Corriere della Sera reported on October 15, 1998, that
 the Albanian Mafia was helping the KLA, and quoted Italian crime
 fighters as saying they successfully neutralized a network of
 Albanian drug traffickers.

 Quoting an unnamed Special Operations Section source, the
 publication reported Milan was the site for talks between Kosovar
 leaders and Tirana-based Albanian gangs.

 Independence was not the only goal of the KLA and the drug
 traffickers, according to the source. "On the basis of phone
 calls that we have intercepted, we have discovered that the drugs
 are not only a source of wealth, but also a tool in the struggle
 to weaken Christendom."

 On March 24, just before the start of NATO’s air campaign,
 London’s The Times reported Europe’s senior law enforcement
 officers believe the KLA is a Marxist-led force funded by drug
 money.

 An investigation by the paper revealed Swedish, German and Czech
 police, along with Europol, the European police authority, were
 conducting separate probes into evidence drug money fueled the
 KLA’s rocket-rise from obscurity to power.

 Europol, according to The 

[CTRL] (Fwd) Analysts on Medicare

1999-06-30 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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Wednesday, June 30, 1999

ANALYSTS ON MEDICARE

The following health-care policy specialists are available for
interviews
on the new Clinton plan for Medicare:

DON McCANNE, M.D., [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.medicare4all.org
A member of the National Coalition to Protect, Improve and
Expand
Medicare, Dr. McCanne said today: "Including prescription coverage in
Medicare is definitely a step in the right direction, but it is still
inadequate because it leaves too much of the cost as out-of-pocket
expenses which will remain unaffordable even for moderate income Medicare
recipients. The direction we should be moving towards is fixing Medicare
and expanding it to cover all of us. The American health-care system is a
disaster now, between the 43 million uninsured people and the damage
wrought by the market approach to health care. We need comprehensive
reform and a change to methods of cost containment that are
patient-oriented."

GAIL SHEARER, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.consumersunion.org
Director of Health Policy Analysis for Consumers Union, Shearer said
today: "The president's proposal is a much better value than the current
Medigap policies many Medicare recipients have. Under Medigap, a typical
75-year-old pays $1,800 for prescription coverage and gets at most $1,250
of benefits per year. However, we are concerned about the voluntary nature
of the president's proposal. Ideally, prescription drugs would be covered
for all, just like doctor and hospital bills. If only those in need elect
coverage, premiums collected will not cover as large a portion of costs as
anticipated, thus spiraling premiums."

JOHN HESS
A retired New York Times reporter, currently a radio commentator and an
analyst on the economics of aging, Hess said: "The Clinton
administration's proposals for Medicare are pure election-year posturing.
There is no talk of Medicare reform even reaching Congress this year.
Moreover, the proposals fail to address the central problem -- the nonstop
rise in the price of prescription medicines. Someone has to have the
courage to lower the boom on the pharmaceutical industry and start
controlling the price of these medications. The first thing that will
happen if the government pays for prescriptions is that employers who now
cover all or most of the cost of brand-name drugs -- which are in many
instances much better than generic counterparts -- will drop that
coverage. The government in the meantime would have a limit on how much
per year they will cover and the premium would come out of our Social
Security checks on top of the increased premium that will be charged for
Medicare. Employers will be better off, the drug companies will be better
off, but people who now have better coverage from their employers and
Medigap coverage -- and those with drug bills that exceed the proposed
limits on government coverage -- would be worse off."

For more information, contact at the Institute for Public Accuracy:
Sam Husseini, (202) 347-0020; David Zupan, (541) 484-9167





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Re: [CTRL] Major Solar Storm

1999-06-30 Thread nessie

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If the Yugos had their act together they would have set off an EMP right
on Wall St. Would have stopped the NWO right in it's tracks.

Then who would pour billions into rebuilding their infrastructure bigger,
better, newer than ever? This way all they have to do is retire Milosovic
and a couple other guys and they're on the gravy train and all it cost
them was some obsolete factories, a couple of bridges and whole bunch of
decoys, with added luxury of the Kosovo problem now becoming  NATO's
problem and with Yugolsavia's honor intact and the VJ dripping with glory.
Clever, those Yugos, damn clever.  Maybe this "war" isn't Wag the Dog
after all; maybe it's The Mouse That Roared.

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