[CTRL] FW: Biotech Companies terrified about possible impact of US consumer

1999-10-13 Thread Dave

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Time to KEEP UP THE PRESSURE on the Corporate Criminal, Monsanto.
Charter revocation !  Corporate Death to these Planet poisoners...


Dave Hartley
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Guardian (London)Wednesday October 13, 1999


Monsanto herbicide 'could damage ecosystem'

Paul Baldwin

Environmental campaigners last night demanded a Europe-wide ban on the
world's biggest selling weedkiller - the bulk of which is supplied by US
biotechnology firm Monsanto - after warnings that it could could kill
insects and spiders vital to agricultural ecosystems.

The call from Friends of the Earth came after a leaked European Union
draft document warned that the chemical gly-phosate, a key ingredient of
Monsanto's glyphosate-based herbicide Roundup, could harm insects which
act as a natural check on crop pests.

The American multi-national also produces genetically engineered
glyphosate immune seed crops designed to be used in conjunction with the
weedkiller.

Yesterday it was revealed that the confidential EU report concluded that
glyphosate should not be approved for use in Europe, warning "harmful
effects" on insects and spiders "cannot be excluded".

Unrelated research in Sweden has also linked the chemical herbicide with
the cancer known as non-Hodgkins lymphoma.

A spokesman for Monsanto said the company "refutes absolutely" both claims
about glyphosate, which he labelled the most benign herbicide in the
world.


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Guardian (London)Wednesday October 13, 1999

Biotech industry attacked
Jane Martinson in New York

International consumer activists accused the American biotechnology
industry and US government of "bio-colonialism" yesterday and vowed to
step up their campaign against genetically modified foods in the United
States.

In their first joint meeting, six international organisations accused the
US government of backing big businesses such as Monsanto and Du Pont
through its trade policy.

The organisations made a pledge to campaign intensively against the
biotechnology industry and the American government in the weeks leading up
to the November meeting of the World Trade Organisation in Seattle.

Sylvia Ribeiro, a campaigner for Rural Advancement Foundation
International, said that a handful of companies were forcing farmers in
poor countries to adopt their products.

"We see this technology as a new bio-colonialism," she said at the meeting
in New York yesterday. "A group of companies are imposing it and its
consequences on many billions of people."

Benedikt Haerlin, global co-ordinator on biotechnology for Greenpeace,
said: "Monsanto is an ambassador for this technology, basically force
feeding Europeans and not giving them the choice."

Share prices for big biotechnology companies have fallen sharply in the
past few months as European lobbies have led consumers to reject GM foods.

Companies are terrified about the possible impact of the American consumer
following the European example. Transplanted seeds are used in half of the
soybean and a third of the corn crop in the US.

These seeds are used in the manufacture of some of the country's
best-known foodstuffs - from Heinz ketchup and the syrup in cola drinks to
McDonalds' hamburger buns.

In recent weeks Monsanto, one of the companies most affected by the
European revolt, has called for those on both sides of the argument to
attempt to reach some "common ground" on the use of the technology, which
it claims has beneficial side-effects.

Mr Haerlin indicated that such accommodation is some way off, however.

He said that Greenpeace needed much more scientific evidence about the
effects on the environment of injecting genes into crops - as well as on
health - before it could agree to its use. "You should never say never,"
he said.

However, he added that there was unlikely to be enough research "within
the next five or 10 years".

The organisations' strategy group includes Britain's Intermediate
Technology Development Group as well as campaigners from South Africa and
Asia.

Patrick Mulvany, the food security policy adviser for the ITDG, said the
campaigners would also reject the Amnerican government "dumping" any
unwanted crop on the developing world.

"It would be irresponsible and immoral simply to dump this stuff as food
aid," he said.

The ITDG is a member of the genetic engineering alliance, which is
proposing that there should be a five-year freeze on the use of organisms
which are genetically modified.

The joint strategy group is planning a multi-pronged assault on the US
consumer through a combination of press events and legal action.

However, with a limited budget at its desposal it is unlikely to be able
to launch a large advertising campaign. Mr Haerlin said his annual budget
for the issue at Greenpeace was just $250,000.


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[CTRL] Privacy advocates warn about Internet proposal

1999-10-13 Thread Joe Feck

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Privacy advocates warn about Internet proposal
Serial number of each PC would go with every parcel of data


By Ted Bridis
ASSOCIATED PRESS

October 12, 1999


WASHINGTON -- Engineers designing a new way to send information across the
Internet want to include a unique serial number from each personal computer
within every parcel of data, an idea that privacy advocates fear could lead
to tracing of senders' identities.

Critics warn that, if adopted, the move could strip away a measure of
anonymity and security enjoyed by tens of millions of home computer users who
dial into America Online Inc. and other Internet providers over traditional
telephone lines.

The issue also illustrates the danger of the unintended consequences from
arcane design decisions aimed at ensuring the Internet's stability into the
21st century.

The proposal by the Internet Engineering Task Force, an international
standards body, would include the serial number for each computer's network
connection hardware as part of its expanded new Internet protocol address.

These "IP" addresses, planted within e-mails and all other information
flowing across the Internet, must be unique to distinguish each computer on
the global network and to guide the billions of bits and bytes flowing among
them.

The task force's top engineers acknowledge some implications for online
privacy, but, "I think the privacy concerns are overrated," said Fred Baker,
the task force's chairman.

But some privacy experts said they were appalled that engineers would
consider the idea. The new address proposal, called "IPv6," would not become
widely used for years but ultimately would affect every Internet user.

Critics warned that commercial Internet sites, which already routinely record
IP addresses, could begin to correlate these embedded serial numbers against
a consumer's name, address and other personal details, from clothing size to
political affiliation.

The task force itself will ultimately decide whether to include the
identifying numbers in the new IP addresses. The timing on that decision is
unclear.

Baker said the task force is also envisioning ways to configure Internet
devices manually so addresses won't contain the sensitive numbers.

"Those folks concerned about the privacy issue could use this (alternate)
technique," said Thomas Narten, an IBM software engineer working with the
task force.

Most home computer users are assigned a different IP address each time they
connect to the Internet through a telephone line, which affords some extra
security and anonymity. It's akin to a person using a different phone number
every day to shield his identity and avoid prank phone calls.

But under the task force's proposal, a portion of even those somewhat
randomly assigned addresses could include the consumer's unique serial number
-- and that information would be stamped on every piece of information sent
from his computer.

"I'm just winding the tape forward here five years, when we all say, 'Oh, my
God!' " said Richard L. Smith of Brookline, Mass., a security expert who was
among the first to question the plan.

The danger worsens, critics warn, as Internet sites begin to share
information about their customers: A consumer visiting a Web site for the
first time could be identified by his computer's serial number that had been
recorded at another site.





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[CTRL] Indonesian government calls off Suharto corruption investigation

1999-10-13 Thread Joe Feck

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Indonesian government calls off Suharto corruption investigation


By Seth Mydans and Philip Shenon
NEW YORK TIMES NEWS SERVICE

October 12, 1999


JAKARTA, Indonesia -- The government of President B.J. Habibie yesterday
announced that it was dropping an investigation of possible corruption by
former President Suharto, defying public sentiment days before an assembly is
to choose the next president.

In a statement that drew an angry response, Attorney General Ismudjoko said
that a yearlong investigation had failed to find enough evidence to proceed
with a case against Suharto, 78.

Ismudjoko's inquiry centered on what had seemed the most accessible area of
investigation, a complex of seven charitable foundations. Critics said
Suharto had laundered huge payoffs through those foundations as part of a
corrupt regime that earned him many billions of dollars.

Habibie did not comment Monday. But the announcement appears to reflect his
continuing allegiance to his longtime mentor. Habibie succeeded Suharto when
he was forced to resign in May 1998.

Some analysts said the move also reflected worries among Habibie and other
veterans of Suharto's government that they could be tarred by a genuine and
wide-ranging investigation into corruption.

"We expected this," said Tenten Masduki, who heads Indonesian Corruption
Watch. "No one in this country is brave enough to put Suharto on trial."

But the announcement also sharpened what will be one of Habibie's crucial
liabilities as an electoral assembly makes its endorsement next week for the
next president -- his closeness to Suharto.

Most assembly members were elected in a nationwide vote in June. Habibie's
party came in second to the party of Megawati Sukarnoputri. But both
candidates remain strong contenders for the presidency, which the 700-member
assembly is to decide Oct. 20.

A deputy chairman of Megawati's party, Kwik Kian Gie, criticized the
announcement and the entire investigation.

"It is very clear that all of this is just a mockery," he said. He promised
that Megawati would reopen the inquiry if she won the presidency.

A number of assembly members also voiced criticism, including the
parliamentary representative of the powerful military bloc.

Even the party that Habibie inherited from Suharto, Golkar, saw a backlash on
the day before it is to announce whether it will continue to back Habibie as
its candidate.

"Politically, this is a major factor," said Marzuki Darusman, who heads an
anti-Habibie faction in Golkar. "It could damage Habibie's candidacy."

Meanwhile, in Dili, East Timor, the U.N.-backed peacekeeping force in East
Timor accused the Indonesian army of providing support to an
anti-independence militia that fired on peacekeepers over the weekend,
raising fears that the army has decided to try to sabotage the peacekeeping
operation.

Australian Maj. Gen. Peter Cosgrove expressed suspicions that Indonesian
soldiers and police officers joined the militia members in firing on the
Australian peacekeepers with assault rifles Sunday.





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[CTRL] Suggestions for Jam Echelon Day

1999-10-13 Thread Joe Feck

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Pay attention to the geophysical aspects of the various echelon
stations around the globe. For example stations in the Asia pacific
might be more sensitive to indonesian military traffic and chinese triad
activity as much as any Iran-Contra scandal. Why would the americans looks
for Contra-drugs-for-arms conspiracies in radio traffic over southeast Asia
when such signals would more easily be found in Virginia anyway? Even the NSA
does not have limitless resources.

Remember echelon is global. Intelligence systems do not operate in such
isolation. Intercepts are often targeted, e.g. phone calls in an area, email
from a person monitored, perhaps because an attack is suspected, or a target
identified. General signals analysis would also be carried about -- to
determine nominal levels of different
signals -- pattern analysis of signals deviations would be monitored and
categorised as well as pattern analysis of communication content.

Targets might be monitored for changes in signals patterns, which give
valuable intelligence in its own right quite apart from the value of the
actual content. To illustrate, if a person suddenly starts sending many
encrypted messages one day to highly unusual addresses [Baghdad?], this might
be important information which can be acted upon immediately, before the
contents of the messages are decrypted.

As much as sending nonsense messages with keywords attached, people
could do as the following:

completely disrupt your usual online habits/patterns, if possible.

open a hotmail account. on the day, suddenly send it dozens of small,
encyrpted messages.

find email addresses, telephone numbers, inside defence establishments
and government departments. send a mixture of clear text and encrypted
(don't use your own key) information.

EXAMPLE

"to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
from: george b. boring
subject:  i am the unassuming little man

in the funny cardigan with the bow tie. we spoke last week at the bar
after your disappointment. attached is the information about our
products that you seek. we assure you complete satisfaction in all our
operations."

Attach an encrypted picture of an atom bomb plan, or something like
that. In fact, attach an triply encrypted copy of another encryption key.
Send another message some hours later, with the instruction "use the key I
sent you to encode our futher communications".


Make up fake plans to seize executive power in Jakarta by military coup and
install a junta. Email it to every single Indonesian military email address
you can lay your hands on.

Encypt sensitive commerical information from your workplace and email it to
your friends. (if you don't wish to damage your employer you can
always use a totally bogus key, you coward).

Ring your friends and talk about the type of security responses you
expect from the authorities for the different operations and your agreed
responses (when to escalate, when to back down, and so forth). Mention the
healthy profit you derived from the whitegoods supplied thru "our contact in
Mexico City", and remind your leiutenants that they will have an excellent
selection of arms available because of it. Detail some.

Write love letters that purport to be from the CMDR US SEVENTH FLEET to his
bondage mistress in Honululu. Use freemail accounts for that one; include a
plausible explanation.

Try phoning known government extension numbers and make indiscrete
inquiries about things they might be interested in.

Have an email discussion on naval ship movements from your home port
with Chinese journalists. Make sure you keep a detailed account of the
numbers on their bow. Extra brownies for looing up in a Jane's for the ship
names. Discuss their operational capabilities and potential deployment
assignments (this information is often publically available).

and so on!
happy jamming,

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[CTRL] Texas, Bush, Tanox, and the Coming Plaggues

1999-10-13 Thread Steve Wingate
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From: "Dave" [EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Yeah, the connections are pretty clear-  whattin'ell  IS major drug-pushing
if not a form of biowarfare?

The text you quoted below appears at this site:
http://wealth4freedom.com/GWI.html
and if you click on the pretty picture of the Dragon, it takes you to:
http://www.wealth4freedom.com/CIAdrugs.html
(guess the site owners see a connection too)
and an interview with Bob Fletcher.

This whole site is pretty interesting.
http://wealth4freedom.com/


Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart


-Original Message-
From: Catherine Austin Fitts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 8:16 PM
To: CIA Drugs list
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [CIA-DRUGS] Texas, Bush, Tanox, and "the Coming Plagues"


From: "Catherine Austin Fitts" [EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Have we viewed this "connect the dots" before? Forgive me if this is a
repeat or off-topic. Hard to see drugs seperate from biological warfare by
the same team. I just got Clancy's book now that it is out in paperback.





Issue Date of 1-21-98


The Wanderer





Gulf War Illness Probe To Advance With New
Study

By PAUL LIKOUDIS

Tom Clancy's latest novel Rainbow Six rivets readers with a fictional
account of environmentalist elites who decide that the only way they can
save the world is to radically eliminate over 95% of the human
population.
Some of the world's leading scientists develop a strain of viruses,
which
they call Shiva after the Indian goddess of death, and devise an
ingenious
method to infect the world's population.

Part of Clancy's plot involves the development of two antibodies to
fight
the new virus, one of which will be for the world's elite, to inoculate
them;
the other for the sick, to make them sicker.

But there's a more riveting reallife scenario unfolding in the United
States  and around the world  that puts Clancy's fictional thriller into
the
realm of the credible: the efforts of a small group of reputable
scientists,
sick U.S. veterans, and a handful of investigative journalists to unlock
the
secrets of Gulf War Illness (GWI), sometimes referred to as Gulf War
Syndrome, which has afflicted between 100,000 and 200,000 military
personnel who served in President George Bush's Desert Storm and their
families, and which is responsible for  perhaps  15,000 deaths.

The number of military personnel who have died of the mysterious
illness
remains a classified secret, one of GWI's top researchers, Dr. Garth
Nicolson of the Institute for Molecular Medicine, told The Wanderer.

For nearly ten years, since his daughter Sharron returned from the
gulf
where she served with the 101st Airborne, Nicolson and his wife, Nancy,
a
molecular biophysicist, have waged a lonely, frustrating, and often
dangerous campaign to discover the causes of GWI while working on a
treatment.

Their first big break came last week (Jan. 12th) when they were
notified
by the U.S. Army that their research had been validated and their
Institute
for Molecular Medicine would be one of three centers, with the Armed
Forces Institute of Pathology and the University of Texas at San
Antonio,
involved in a $12 million Veterans' Administrationfunded project to
develop
a treatment for the debilitating and often fatal illness, an infection
known
technically as mycoplasma fermentans.

Dr. Nicolson explains that slightly under onehalf of the Gulf War
veterans
he has tested have shown signs of infection by mycoplasma fermentans.

For the husbandwife team of researchers, the army's notice came as a
tremendous vindication after years of repeated attempts by government
agencies to ruin their careers, their credibility, and their research.

As both Nancy and Garth Nicolson wrote in the October, 1996 issue of
Criminal Politics, since he began researching the causes of GWI, he has
lived through a governmentsponsored "nightmare."

"We were attacked by highlevel military physicians, ostracized by
certain
colleagues who spread rumors about our sanity, forced out of academic
institutions by a concerted effort that involved nonstop administrative
harassment, mail and courier theft, wiretaps, credit card fraud,
breaking a
tenure contract, computer and documents theft, attempts to block our
scientific and medical presentations, sabotage our clinical samples, and
undermine our employees."

Their ordeal over the past eight years  since 1991  has convinced them
that certain sections of the U.S. government, working with what might 

[CTRL] IKONOS Satellite

1999-10-13 Thread earthman

 -Caveat Lector-

This is the first image from the new satellite

Peter

http://www.spaceimaging.com/IKONOS/firstimage.htm

From:

http://www.spaceimaging.com/newsroom/releases/1999/firstimage.htm

For Immediate Release: October 12, 1999
Contact: Linda Lidov
303.254.2106
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

First Image from the
IKONOS Satellite
Shows Washington, D.C.
World's First High-Resolution Commercial
Earth Image Reveals Remarkable Detail

Denver, Colo., October 12, 1999 - Today Space Imaging released
the world's first high-resolution commercial satellite image of
the Earth. The one-meter resolution black-and-white image of
Washington, D.C., collected by Space Imaging 's IKONOS satellite,
has unprecedented clarity and detail for commercial space
imagery. The image showcases part of the Mall area in the heart
of Washington D.C., and is downloadable from the Space Imaging
Web site (see details below). The image caption is also available
on the Web.

"The clarity and detail of this first IKONOS image is validation
of the leadership position of Lockheed Martin and Raytheon in
optical imaging systems," said John Copple, Space Imaging's chief
executive officer. "The launch was perfect and was itself a major
milestone. Just three days after launch we were able to activate
systems and start testing the collection capabilities of IKONOS -
bringing us even closer to providing this new source of
information to our customers. This is a remarkable achievement
that would only have been possible with the heritage technology
of Lockheed Martin and Raytheon."

Copple continued, "The CARTERRAT image of Washington, D.C., taken
September 30, was validation that the satellite was in perfect
working order. Although we still have to calibrate the system to
further improve and characterize the imagery, we are very pleased
of the results so far. I want to thank all of our customers,
vendors, and investors for the support that has made this
possible."

Jeff Harris, Space Imaging's president, added, "Space Imaging
employees huddled together and watched the image come up on a
large projected screen. Their awe-inspired reaction will no doubt
be echoed by our customers and the industry. We are all so
excited about this momentous event - the result of several years
of hard work, dedication and commitment of our employees, and the
patience and faith of our customers."

The Washington, D.C. image is an example of the IKONOS
satellite's collection capabilities. The image has not been
processed to have a map-accuracy quality. The IKONOS satellite
also has a sensor that collects four-meter multispectral (color)
imagery. As satellite calibrations and check-out continue,
imagery from the multispectral sensor will be released. IKONOS
imagery and products, marketed under Space Imaging's CARTERRAT
brand name, will be available for sale to customers by the end of
this year. Initial product orders are being taken by Space
Imaging's Customer Service Center (+301-552-0537 or
800-232-9037).

The IKONOS satellite orbits the Earth in a sun-synchronous orbit
- meaning it simply follows the sun as it travels around the
globe - and its Eastman Kodak-built camera is an optical imaging
device. The near-perfect optical sharpness of Kodak's telescope
has never been achieved in any commercial space camera. The
satellite circles the globe 14 times per day, or once every 98
minutes. The imagery is stored in Space Imaging's digital
CARTERRAT archive and can be made available to customers very
quickly - in as little as a few hours or days.

Images from the IKONOS satellite will have unlimited utility in a
number of markets including state and local government, mapping,
agriculture, forestry, emergency response, utilities,
telecommunications, real estate, environment, national security,
transportation, and insurance and risk management. Highly
detailed maps of entire countries can be made for the first time.
Farmers can more precisely monitor the health of crops and
estimate yields. Scientists can look at environmentally sensitive
areas and predict trends. Government officials can monitor and
plan enlightened land use policies. City planners can further the
development of new housing communities. New and emerging uses
include measuring and mapping damage to properties after natural
disasters, planning for emergency response, mapping
transportation networks, developing in-vehicle navigation
systems, and planning and developing real estate.

"The potential uses for IKONOS imagery are vast and we have just
begun to scratch the surface," said Copple. "The value of this
new source of information will create a demand like we've never
seen before for imagery of the Earth."

The name IKONOS is derived from the Greek word for "image." The
name is pronounced "Eye-KOH-nos."

Space Imaging is a leading supplier of space imagery, aerial
photography, mapping services, and derivative geographic
information products and services. In addition to selling imagery
from its IKONOS satellite, 

[CTRL] Fw: [LastdaysProphecies] Jail Clinton

1999-10-13 Thread earthman



Got this off the Christians..

Peter
We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboardhttp://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/homepageBargain 
Bookshttp://bn.bfast.com/bfast/click/mid1349732?siteid=10734186bfpage=b


- Original Message - 
From: J. Morgan 
Drake 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [LastdaysProphecies] Jail Clinton

Oops! Guess it doesn't go through that way, 
eh?
Sorry.



There. That works better 
:-)

JM


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  J. 
  Morgan Drake 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 7:28 
  PM
  Subject: [LastdaysProphecies] Jail 
  Clinton
  
  This is a great one, Michael. Did I already thank 
  you for it? I don't remember, but I'm already starting at putting these on 
  envelopes by printing them on.
  C:\WIN95\DESKTOP\Jail Clinton 
  Stamp.gif
  JM
  


Re: [CTRL] JFK Sought END of Federal Reserve...CAPITALISTSMURDER...

1999-10-13 Thread Nurev Ind Research

 -Caveat Lector-

"[to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-

 Really? And what's the perfect alternative? And will you practice what you
 preach and dispense with each and every product your wear, eat and use which
 comes to you courtesy of capitalism?

OH MY GOD!!! HOW WILL I SURVIVE WITHOUT COKE, MICHAEL JORDAN, AND HAIR
IN A SPRAY CAN???

Oh really? How did humanity manage to survive for all these millions of
years before capitalism came into existence?

Things would probably improve for more people after it's replaced with a
sane economic system.

But hey, enjoy it while you can.

Joshua2

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Re: [CTRL] Interesting Things You Didn't Know

1999-10-13 Thread C Davis

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In a message dated 10/12/99 6:20:19 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

  February 1865 is the only month in recorded history not to have a full
moon. 
No.Feb 1999 had no full moon...

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[CTRL] World grid line activation methods and global spirituality of Robt Muller.

1999-10-13 Thread Nicola Molloy

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The first half of this post are words from the villans themselves on
what they are hoping for in combining physics and consciousness and
their hopes to get us into the next dimension and to herald the arrival
of the Annuki etc etc
We can point the finger at this mess to Robert Muller formerly the under
secetary of UN who follows the spirit guide Djwhal Khul , Alice Bailey
used to channel him - He is  Tibetan..

The second half are posts from Christian sites who see the dangers of
the first posts. So if you can't grasp the first ones and what they are
up to with physics to change the consciousnes of mankind, then please
read the second posts for clarity.
Nicky


Dan Winter
Inventor, Author, Visionary

http://www.earthportals.com/Earthportals/Portal_Messenger/danlove.html

EartHeat 2000 Project Summary

Our friends have been involved for over ten years with projects designed
to facilitate global coherent emotion, connecting the magnetic feeling
ring of human glands/love with the very magnetic fabric of the Earth's
body. The first of these was called the Harmonic Module. A group of us
all flew to one of the world's most advanced laboratory laserium, Laser
Fantasy in Seattle. There, with the help of Robert Muller, we connected
EKG elecktrodes from friends feeling resonance with each other, directly
to the gimble mirror laser projectors. At the moments of phase lock in
resonance entrainment between heartbeats, the laser display would
momentarily go into a pattern akin to an oscilloscope lissajous. The
geometry of the shape of the waveform's momentary stability would
indicate the musical harmonics of the two heartbeats, making a musical
chord, as it were. So Sitchen got it right that proper grid engineering
for planetary atmosphere maintenance required gold dust as a magnetic
dopant (Seed
of perfected embeddedness, in the liquid going to crystal). We need now
to go on to understand that the ability of our planet to contain gold,
was evidence of perfect intention in the original stellar grid cats
cradle woven of gravity threads to birth this place. And the higher
significance of this presence of sustainable envelopement (fire of
awareness) in our grid, enabled the evolution of sentience here in a new
way.

http://www.earthportals.com/Earthportals/Portal_Messenger/winter.html

In the Incunabula experiments as reported, a colony of people was set up
at another time in history because our genepools end was foreseen. I
have had no particular
reports of damage to the etheric fabric of the planet by these
experiments. However, analogous but more destructive experiments with
sexual energy in antenna arrays was carried out labeled "Montauk
Project". Here indeed major damage was done to the delicate nest
capacitance of Earth's etheric web. Groups like William Buehlers working
with major angelic.. Ophanim lineages, invested major energy in
repairing these bleeding wounds to our collective electric genetic body.
The ability of our genepool to harvest spin capacitively from
galactic spaces is/was in the balance. Our collected love juices make
the ultimate antenna array.This is what I see as the rub of the
Incunabula.. here is a lesson in conserving spin paths from love, to
make a memory envelope for the harvest of spin. This sounds a bit
abstract, but in a more practical way, it may mean that a only this
centering force may harvest our collective memories home. Individually,
yes tantra properly antennaed is shamanic time travel. But COLLECTIVELY,
the juices of love are probably the only sling shot for memory to get
all our memories speeded up in a bubble. For 10
years our little core group of Electric dreamers has been talking about
the Harmonic Module.. Feed back of EKG, breath, and Schuman planet
heartbeat over global media, would precipitate concensu process/
collective mind. Adding intention to eros and synchronized love in the
proper Earth grid dodeca antenna points, would likely be a shoe horn
path for global memories to be one envelope... sent home.
Global TV, here we come.

deca delta antenna..
cocoon..
montauk..
incunablula..
swaddling clothes..
cocoon and chrysalis..

( Sounds like he's another aging hippy connected with UN, who has had
too much LSD - Nicky)

http://www.earthportals.com/Earthportals/Portal_Messenger/danbio.html

Dan Winter "world grid system reorganiser for the New Millenium".
Credentials - FINDHORN! Heaven help us.

Background:

Dan's background is as multidisciplinary as his viewpoint. Graduating
with honors at Jesuit University of Detroit, he pursued graduate studies
in psychophysiology, and the origins of languages. His occupations have
included Systems Analyst with IBM, industrial metallurgist and
crystalographer. He's worked in the pyraminds, in the Andes, in Florence
with Bucky Fuller, studied at Findhorn, in the Gurdjieff School of
sacred gymnastics, and graphic 

Re: [CTRL] Fw: Smokers Fired

1999-10-13 Thread Stopforth, Jamie

 -Caveat Lector-

  To be quite honest.  I'm tired of having to breath that stuff.  It happens
numerous times when I'm walking out to my car or just anywhere outside...
Smoking shouldn't be illegal.  But it shouldn't be done in public where
others have breath it.
If you want to commit a slow suicide by all means do it.  But I'm not
following you.

Jamie

-Original Message-
From: Kathleen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 4:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fw: Smokers Fired


 -Caveat Lector-

On 11 Oct 99, at 15:16, Stopforth, Jamie wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-

 Good, get rid of the smokers.



We'd be better off to get rid of the busybodies and bigots who want
to control what people do on their own time to their own bodies.

The difference between your statement and that of good German
citizens who said "Good, get rid of the Jews" is only one of degree.

"Every reform is only a mask under cover of which
a more terrible reform, which dares not name
itself, advances." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

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[CTRL] George Orwell to Hoover: Please Endorse My Book

1999-10-13 Thread Joe Feck

 -Caveat Lector-

http://www.apbnews.com/media/gfiles/orwell/index.html

George Orwell to Hoover: Please Endorse My Book
Author's Publicist Sent 1984 to FBI Director
Sept. 20, 1999

By Janon Fisher



AP
George Orwell

 NEW YORK (APBnews.com) -- In what could have been the ultimate marketing
coup, the publisher of George Orwell's novel 1984 asked America's incarnation
of Big Brother, FBI director J. Edgar Hoover, to endorse the book.

According to Orwell's FBI file, released under the U.S. Freedom of
Information Act, Hoover declined. Instead, Hoover filed the request in a
dossier he created on Orwell.

FBI files show that in April 1949, Eugene Reynal, vice president of Harcourt,
Brace and Co., wrote Hoover, arguably the incarnation of Orwell's
authoritarian bureaucracy, for his thumbs up on the book.



Related Document:

George Orwell's FBI File



 "We hope you might be interested in helping to call this book to the
attention of the American public, and thus perhaps helping to halt
totalitarianism," Reynal wrote.

Did Hoover read the book?

While it isn't clear what Hoover thought of the book, or even if he read
Orwell's fictionalized account of an out-of-control totalitarian government,
the file shows that Hoover's opinion was beside the point.

Endorsements were against bureau policy.

Thus, fans of the English novelist may never know whether Hoover objected to
Orwell's placement of the Thought Police under the jurisdiction of the
Ministry of Love.

But Hoover, in a very un-Orwellian move, said 'No' politely.

"While I am looking forward to reading the book at the earliest opportunity,
you are advised that in accordance with a long-standing policy I have
refrained from lending my endorsement to commercial publications, and I am
sure you will understand my inability to make an exception in this instance,"
Hoover replied.

The copy of the book Reynal sent to Hoover wound up in the FBI library.

Nevertheless, the bureau stayed on top of the situation.

Another internal memo in the file with the subject heading "Smear
Campaign/Committee for a return to the homeland internal security," discussed
an article in a Russian-language newspaper arguing that 1984 was a portrayal
of life in the United States.

"Let us give what is due to the Hoovers," the memo states. "The mechanization
of police surveillance of average Americans has assumed imposing proportions,
especially in the technique of listening in on telephone conversations. This
art has reached fabulous heights in the United States."

The article concludes that "there is one field in the American life that
never yet has suffered a decline, but is flourishing year after year. It is
police surveillance and investigation. Indeed, in this field, America has
surpassed the world and has no equals."

Though the bureau might have looked on the Russian article as part of a smear
campaign -- as its FBI categorization suggests -- there was more than a grain
of truth to its assertions.

According to The FBI Comprehensive Reference Guide, Congress banned
wiretapping in 1934. But President Franklin D. Roosevelt gave a secret
directive that allowed the bureau to tap phone lines with the attorney
general's permission. The "Black Bag Jobs" described in the guide required
FBI operatives to illegally break into residences and offices targeted for
surveillance.

Other Orwellian advancements in government monitoring of citizenry have kept
up with the times.

According to press reports, the National Security Agency operates a global
spy system code-named ECHELON, which coordinates intelligence-gathering by
spy agencies in Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Great Britain.

Under the program, the agencies share intelligence-gathering duties and some
of the intercepted information. In general, each country limits spying on its
own citizens. However, a former Canadian intelligence official has claimed
the British government once got around the rules by using Canada's
Communications Security Establishment to collect intelligence on British
citizens.

Orwell's offspring

If not for the original appearance of Big Brother, Orwell's prophetic book
might now seem cliche. Movies today, such as Enemy of the State or The Truman
Show, continue to delve into the issue of government invasion of privacy.

"Nothing will be your own, private, exclusive, except a few cubic centimeters
inside your cranium," Orwell wrote.

Orwell's earlier novel Animal Farm also caught the FBI director's eye. The
Orwell file includes several pages of Hoover's press clippings and memos on
the radical left's denouncements of the book.

According to the citations in Orwell's FBI dossier, the English author's
books appealed to activists of all stripes. On the last page of the file -- a
memo on the bombing of the U.S. Air Force Academy's officer's mess by a group
calling itself "Americong" -- Orwell is quoted again with an excerpt from
1984.

"[I]n a physical sense war involves very small numbers of people, mostly

[CTRL] Who is Wackenhut and what are they up to?

1999-10-13 Thread Joe Feck

 -Caveat Lector-

(3818)  Sun 17 Jan 93 20:49
By: Don Allen
To: All
Re: WackenSPY - 1/5
St: Local Sent
3819
---
@MSGID: 1:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 089486d7
@PID: FM 2.02
 * Forwarded from "UFO"
 * Originally by Don Allen
 * Originally to All
 * Originally dated 17 Jan 1993, 20:34

I scanned this in from the Sept 1992 edition of SPY magazine article
on Wackenhut. This will go a long way into explaining "Who is Wackenhut
and what are they up to?"  Not mentioned in this article is the fact that
Wackenhut is also in charge of security at Area-51, the place where
UFO activity has often been sighted.

It's being posted for informational purposes only.

---


INSIDE THE SHADOW CIA

by

John Connolly

SPY Magazine - Sept 1992 - Volume 6



What? A big private company - one with a board of former CIA, FBI and
Pentagon officials; one in charge of protecting Nuclear-Weapons facilities,
nuclear reactors, the Alaskan oil pipeline and more than a dozen American
embassies abroad; one with long-standing ties to a radical ring-wing
organization; one with 30,000 men and women under arms - secretly helped
IRAQ in its effort to obtain sophisticated weapons? And fueled unrest
in Venezuela? This is all the plot of a new best-selling thriller,
right? Or the ravings of some overheated conspiracy buff,right? Right?

WRONG.

--

In the WINTER OF 1990, David Ramirez, a 24 year-old member of the Special
Investigations Division of the Wackenhut Corporation, was sent by  his
superiors on an unusual mission. Ramirez a former Marine Corps sergeant
based in Miami, was told to fly immediately to San Antonio along with three
other members of SID-a unit, known as founder and chairman George
Wackenhut's "private FBI," that provided executive protection and conducted
undercover investigations and sting operations. Once they arrived, they
rented two gray Ford Tauruses and drove four hours to a desolate town on the
Mexican border called Eagle Pass. There, just after dark, they met two truck
drivers who had been flown in from Houston. Inside a nearby warehouse was an
18 -wheel tractor-trailer, which the two truck drivers and the four
Wackenhut agents in their rented cars were supposed to transport to Chicago.
"My instructions were very clear," Ramirez recalls. "Do not look into the
trailer, secure it, and make sure it safely gets to Chicago." It went
without saying that no one else was supposed to look in the trailer, either,
which is why the Wackenhut men were armed with fully loaded Remington 870
pump-action shotguns.

The convoy drove for 30 hours straight, stopping only for gas and food. Even
then, one of the Wackenhut agents had to stay with the truck, standing by
one of the cars, its trunk open, shotgun within easy reach. "Whenever we
stopped, I bought a shot glass with the name of the town on it," Ramirez
recalls. "I have glasses from Oklahoma City, Kansas City, St. Louis."

A little before 5:00 on the morning of the third day, they delivered the
trailer to a practically empty warehouse outside Chicago. A burly man who
had been waiting for them on the loading dock told them to take off the
locks and go home, and that was that. They were on a plane back to Miami
that afternoon. Later Ramirez's superiors told him-as they told other SID
agents about similar midnight runs-that the trucks contained $40 million
worth of food stamps. After considering the secrecy, the way the team was
assembled and the orders not to stop or open the truck, Ramirez decided he
didn't believe that explanation.

Neither do we. One reason is simple: A Department of Agriculture official
simply denies that food stamps are shipped that way. "Someone is blowing
smoke," he says. Another reason is that after a six-month investigation, in
the course of which we spoke to more than 300 people, we believe we know
what the truck did contain-equipment necessary for the manufacture of
chemical weapons-and where it was headed: to Saddam Hussein's Iraq. And the
Wackenhut Corporation-a publicly traded company with strong ties to the CIA
and federal contracts worth $200 million a year-was making sure Saddam would
be geting his equipment intact. The question is why. In 1954, George
Wackenhut, then a 34-year old former FBI agent, joined up with three other
former FBI agents to open a company in Miami called Special Agent
Investigators Inc. The partnership was neither successful nor
harmonious-George once knocked partner Ed Dubois unconscious to end a
disagreement over the direction the company would take-and in 1958, George
bought out his partners.

However capable Wackenhut's detectives may have been at their work, George
Wackenhut had two personal attributes that were instrumental in the
company's growth. First, he got along exceptionally well with important
politicians. He 

[CTRL] Henry Kissinger's meetings with Chinese

1999-10-13 Thread Joe Feck

 -Caveat Lector-

www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/nsa/publications/DOC_readers/kissinger/19990110.htm

WASHINGTON, D.C., 10 January 1999 -- The National Security Archive at George
Washington University today released its new book of previously top secret
transcripts of Henry Kissinger's meetings with Chinese and Soviet leaders
while he served as national security adviser and Secretary of State in the
Nixon and Ford administrations, including the full transcript of the historic
first meeting between Nixon and Mao in February 1972.

The transcripts fill in major gaps in Kissinger's memoir version of his
triangular diplomacy with Beijing and Moscow, revealing his previously secret
attempt to create a "tacit alliance" with China while deceiving the Soviets
about the relationship. According to the transcripts, Kissinger repeatedly
offered satellite intelligence to the Chinese from 1971 to 1973, high speed
computers in 1975, and even a hot line for early warning on Soviet troop
movements.

These never-before-published near-verbatim transcripts, most of which were
previously classified "Top Secret/Sensitive/Exclusively Eyes Only," provide
scintillating detail on the personalities of world leaders like Mao,
Brezhnev, Nixon and Kissinger himself, such as Mao's query to Kissinger (and
then-Ambassador George Bush) about Jewish ownership of American newspapers.

Published by The New Press (distributed by W.W. Norton  Co.), the book
resulted from a 6-year investigation by National Security Archive staff led
by senior analyst William Burr, a Ph.D. diplomatic historian, who
reconstructed this record through Freedom of Information Act requests and
archival sleuthing. The only complete set of these transcripts remains locked
in the Library of Congress under Kissinger's personal control, unavailable to
the public without his permission until 5 years after his death; but Archive
staff tracked down copies in Nixon and Ford presidential papers, State
Department files, and in the papers of Kissinger's aides.

The National Security Archive is a public interest research library located
at George Washington University. Founded in 1985, the Archive now holds "the
largest collection of contemporary declassified national security information
outside the U.S. government," according to the Christian Science Monitor. A
project of The Fund for Peace supported by foundation grants and publication
royalties, the Archive has become a "Nexis of national security," according
to the Washington Journalism Review, and "a state-of-the-art index to
history."

Copies of the book are available in bookstores and from The New Press via
W.W. Norton  Co., 1-800-233-4830.

For more information:
Tom Blanton, Archive director
William Burr, Editor of the book
202/994-7000, -7068, -7032
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Notes and Excerpts

Item 1 (pp. 59-65)

On 21 February 1972, President Richard Nixon arrived in Beijing for
high-level meetings with top Chinese officials. Only a few hours after his
landing, Chairman Mao Zedong summoned Nixon to his quarters in the Forbidden
City. Anxious to raise China's status in the world community and to develop
relations with Washington as a balance against Moscow, Mao was eager to meet
with Nixon. Although Nixon and Kissinger realized, when meeting Mao, that his
health was poor, it was a state secret that heart and lung problems had
almost caused Mao's death in the previous weeks. Both Nixon and Kissinger
gave detailed accounts of this meeting in their memoirs but they failed to
mention that Mao may have found Nixon a little tedious. After Nixon tried to
justify his pro-Pakistani, anti-Indian stance during the South Asian War, Mao
asked Nixon to "do a little less briefing." Nor did they mention Nixon's
references to Japan's "doubts" about the U.S. opening to China. Then as now,
the Japanese must have wondered whether Washington would develop relations
with Beijing at Tokyo's expensive.

Item 2 (pp. 45, 50-51)

Months before Nixon’s visit but a few weeks after Henry Kissinger’s secret
trip to Beijing in July 1971, Soviet ambassador asked Kissinger on 17 August
1971 whether he had provided the Chinese with intelligence information on
Soviet military dispositions. Kissinger denied that he had, but various
secondary accounts (e.g., Raymond Garthoff, Detente and Confrontation, 1994,
p. 262) suggest, however, that he soon provided intelligence data to the
Chinese as as early as his October 1971 visit to Beijing. The relevant
documents from October 1971 remain classified but new evidence shows that
Kissinger was more than willing to provide sensitive intelligence information
to the Chinese. The transcript of a meeting on 13 December, during the
Indian-Pakistan war, shows Kissinger offering Ambassador to the UN Huang Hua
highly sensitive information, derived from reconnaissance satellite
photography, on Soviet military deployments. Whenever Kissinger made his
first offer of intelligence information, this was an important step in the
Nixon 

[CTRL] Harassment Through Psychological Warfare

1999-10-13 Thread Joe Feck

 -Caveat Lector-

http://mediafilter.org/MFF/USDCO.PsyWar.html


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Harassment Through
Psychological Warfare

While boring from within, the FBI and police also attack dissident movements
from the outside. They openly mount propaganda campaigns through public
addresses, news releases, books, pamphlets, magazine articles, radio, and
television. They also use covert deception and manipulation. Documented
tactics of this kind include:

False Media Stories: COINTELPRO documents expose frequent collusion between
news media personnel and the FBI to publish false and distorted material at
the Bureau's behest. The FBI routinely leaked derogatory information to its
collaborators in the news media. It also created newspaper and magazine
articles and television "documentaries" which the media knowingly or
unknowingly carried as their own. Copies were sent anonymously or under bogus
letterhead to activists' financial backers, employers, business associates,
families, neighbors, church officials, school administrators, landlords, and
whomever else might cause them trouble.
One FBI media fabrication claimed that Jean Seberg, a white film star active
in anti-racist causes, was pregnant by a prominent Black leader. The Bureau
leaked the story anonymously to columnist Joyce Haber and also had it passed
to her by a "friendly" source in the Los Angeles Times editorial staff. The
item appeared without attribution in Haber's nationally syndicated column of
May 19, 1970. Seberg's husband has sued the FBI as responsible for her
resulting stillbirth, nervous breakdown, and suicide.
Bogus Leaflets, Pamphlets, and Other Publications: COINTELPRO documents show
that the FBI routinely put out phony leaflets, posters, pamphlets,
newspapers, and other publications in the name of movement groups. The
purpose was to discredit the groups and turn them against one another.
FBI cartoon leaflets were used to divide and disrupt the main national
anti-war coalition of the late 1960s. Similar fliers were circulated in 1968
and 1969 in the name of the Black Panthers and the United Slaves (US), a
rival Black nationalist group based in Southern California. The phony
Panther/US leaflets, together with other covert operations, were credited
with subverting a fragile truce between the two groups and igniting an
explosion of internecine violence that left four Panthers dead, many more
wounded, and a once-flourishing regional Black movement decimated.
Another major COINTELPRO operation involved a children's coloring book which
the Black Panther Party had rejected as anti-white and gratuitously violent.
The FBI revised the coloring book to make it even more offensive. Its field
offices then distributed thousands of copies anonymously or under phony
organizational letterheads. Many backers of the Party's program of free
breakfasts for children withdrew their support after the FBI conned them into
believing that the bogus coloring book was being used in the program.
Forged Correspondence: Former employees have confirmed that the FBI has the
capacity to produce state-of-the-art forgery. This capacity was used under
COINTELPRO to create snitch jackets and bogus communications that exacerbated
differences among activists and disrupted their work.
One such forgery intimidated civil rights worker Muhammed Kenyatta (Donald
Jackson), causing him to abandon promising projects in Jackson, Mississippi.
Kenyatta had foundation grants to form Black economic cooperatives and open a
"Black and Proud School" for dropouts. He was also a student organizer at
nearby Tougaloo College. In the winter of 1969, after an extended campaign of
FBI and police harassment, Kenyatta received a letter, purportedly from the
Tougaloo College Defense Committee, which "directed" that he cease his
political activities immediately. If he did not "heed our diplomatic and
well-thought-out warning," the committee would consider taking measures
"which would have a more direct effect and which would not be as cordial as
this note." Kenyatta and his wife left. Only years later did they learn it
was not Tougaloo students, but FBI covert operators who had driven them out.
Later in 1969, FBI 

[CTRL] Operation Blue Beam: The Comic Story

1999-10-13 Thread Mack White

 -Caveat Lector-

"Operation Blue Beam," a new comic story, may be read at my website:

http://www.mackwhite.com

Mack White

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[CTRL] NEW gonzo conspiracy links

1999-10-13 Thread Bard
Title: gonzo links | conspiracy








  
  




  


  assassination | illuminati  
  nwo | assorted | indexes
  

  


  


  
latest additions
The Lighthouse 
ReportCovert ops, mind control, the national security state, 
and all the usual suspects
TWA 800 Missle Web 
Site RoadmapAll the missle 
theories all the time
Divid Icke Web 
SiteGet the latest on the Windsor-Bush bloodline and learn 
the Big Secret
The Round 
TableExposing the secret strategy of the Council on Foreign 
Relations and the roadshow of 
  deception
  

  


  assassination
  Weberman's JFK 
  Assassination Home pageIt was the Mafia, the 
  CIA, the Cubans, Nixon . . . they're all here
  JFK Assassination 
  ResearchIt was those darn Illuminati!
  JFK WatchAll the latest news 
  and online bookstore
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  PageMusic and Pics
  Cuban Information 
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  gaps
  The National Security 
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  Operation 
  HeadshotsCIA film found in dumpster
  Deep Politics 
  QuarterlyJFK Assassination journal
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  Research MaterialsEverything but the magic 
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  BooksGreat Source of Assassination and Cover Ops Books
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[CTRL] Breaking Issue Waco

1999-10-13 Thread Bard
Title: Breaking Issue: Waco








 

  
  

  
  
  Recent News on the Waco Tragedy and 
  Investigation
  10/8: Retired colonel says bugs showed sect's fire 
  plans Dallas 
  Morning News
  10/6: Expert Concludes FBI Fired Shots DuringWaco 
  Siege Washington 
  Post
  10/2: Federal officials want more time to collect Waco 
  documents Dallas 
  Morning News
  9/28: Danforth Plans Prompt Questioning of Waco 
  Witnesses Washington 
  Post
  Continuing Waco Coverage
  Waco 
  Re-Examined: The Dallas Morning News 
  Waco 
  Investigation: Yahoo! Full Coverage

  Updated October 8, 1999
  
  


  
What 
Happened at Waco?
Reason's Exclusive Interview with 
Waco survivor David Thibodeau, co-author of 
A 
Place Called Waco: A Survivor's Story 
  
  "Some religious fanatics murdered themselves." 
  
  That was Bill Clinton's not-quite-feel-your-pain summary of 
  the 1993 disaster near Waco, Texas. Following a 51-day siege by 
  federal agents, a fire swept through the residence of the Branch 
  Davidians. Afterward, 80 people, including 25 children, were found 
  dead.
  That incident, the deadliest law enforcement operation in 
  American history, is in the news again because the FBI has finally 
  admitted, after six years of denial, that it used "pyrotechnic" tear gas 
  canisters against the Davidians on the day the fire started.
  The controversy has led to a new investigation into the role 
  of the federal government at Waco, headed by Republican John Danforth. The 
  former Missouri senator told ABC's This Week, "My mission is very 
  precise: Was there a cover-up, and were government employees involved in 
  what amounts to killing people?" The House Government Reform Committee has 
  initiated a separate probe into the events at Mount Carmel. And a Senate 
  task force led by Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa) has launched a review of the 
  FBI and U.S. Justice Department, which will include the agencies' conduct 
  at Waco.
  These new investigations are bound to look into hundreds of 
  unanswered questions about the details of the siege that have lingered in 
  the past six years and have been brought to the public's attention by a 
  number of films and books. Who fired first during the 
  BATF raid that set the stage for the siege? Did the FBI miss opportunities 
  to bring the siege to a peaceful end? Who started the fire? Was there a 
  coverup? Did the FBI shoot at the Davidian residence? Was Davidian leader 
  David Koresh a child molester? Were the Davidians manufacturing weapons? 
  Were they punished for their religious beliefs?
  Clear answers to all these questions are not likely to 
  emerge. But even the president's strongest defenders may have trouble 
  buying his version of the truth after the investigations wrap up. 
  Again.
  Articles on the Waco tragedy in Reason and 
  by Reason staff:
  

Persecution, 
American-Style Were the Branch Davidians targeted by the government 
because of their religion? Reason Senior Editor Jacob Sullum, 
New York Times, 8/31/99.

Burning 
Questions The federal government is beginning to sound like Billy 
Joel. "We didnt start the fire," it keeps saying, every time the 
subject of Waco comes up. Jacob Sullum, Creators Syndicate, 9/1/99.

The Fire 
Last Time A review of Waco: The Rules of Engagement, and 
No More Wacos: What's Wrong with Federal Law Enforcement and How to 
Fix It, by Jacob Sullum, Reason, 5/98.

More Burning 
Questions A review of The Ashes of Waco: An Investigation; 
and Armageddon in Waco: Critical Perspectives on the Branch 
Davidian Conflict; and Why Waco?: Cults and the Battle for 
Religious Freedom in America, by Jacob Sullum, Reason, 
3/96
  

Ambush at 
Ruby Ridge: How government agents set Randy Weaver up and took his 
family down, by Alan W. Bock, Reason, 10/93.

Fighting 
Words: How the media find anyone who questions the government's 
actions at Waco guilty by association with extremist causes, by Virginia 
Postrel, Reason, 7/95.
  Other Articles and Resources:There's an enormous 
  amount of information, commentary, and conspiracy theorizing about Waco on 
  the Internet. Here are a just a few articles and resources that may be of 
  interest:
  
Dark 
Questions Could Reveal Dark Answers. A concise, up-to-date history 
of the Waco controversy, by Andrew Olivastro, IntellectualCapital.com, 
 

Re: [CTRL] Fw: Smokers Fired

1999-10-13 Thread Stopforth, Jamie

 -Caveat Lector-

And then let's get rid of recreational drinkers.  Alcohol is far more
harmful
than tobacco and is implicated in most crimes of violence.  Make possession
of a beer a felony, or if that is deemed too severe, just tax alcohol until
a
sixpack costs consumers $29.99 ...


  As a matter of fact, it's been proven that alcohol in and of itself isn't
bad and could actually be good for the liver if not abused...  But who
doesn't abuse it right?  I don't believe smoking any kind of tobacco has
this attribute.  Smoke a little and it's good for you... Nope.  All smoking
of tobacco is bad.  So you see, it's not the alcohol that's bad it's the
person with a lack of responsibility who abuses it.  We all know the
ramifications of drinking to much... It's not like a drunk driver can say,
"Well golly gee! I didn't know that would happen!"  Back to smoking in
public...  It shouldn't be done where it can affect others.  And about this
second hand smoke stuff...  If smoking through a cigarette with a filter is
detrimental to your health then why would smoke not passing through the
filter not be detrimental?  It's common sense that second hand smoke is just
as bad, if not worse.  We all have rights in this country, and one of those
rights is to not have our rights infringed upon.  You know, like good
health.  I agree my first statement was rather blunt.  But this email came
after I had to walking through a wall of smoke **outside**...  It was my
frustration talking at that point.  I guess smelling like an ashtray isn't
that bad.

Jamie

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Re: [CTRL] Alternative medicine cancer alternative treatments

1999-10-13 Thread Gavin Phillips

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Excellent information Dave, thank you. Have you read Suppressed Inventions 
Other Discoveries by Jonathan Eisen? A very good book which covers suppressed
cancer treatments (amongst other things) and documents the appalling
harrassment and persecution handed out to some
doctors/researchers/philanthropists who try to make these treatments
available to the people suffering from cancer. Gavin.

In a message dated 10/8/99 1:17:34 AM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi Naomi,

 As I'm sure you are well aware, cancer has been successfully treated by
 homeopathy since the mid 1800's.
 I think that if someone asked me for my opinion on what to do if they had
 cancer... I'd suggest that they get a referral and go to India, where it
 would be possible to get homeopathic treatment without the legal harrassment
 that we find in the U.S.

 While my personal belief is that an excellent homoeopath would be the best
 resource, it is also apparent that there are a great number of other
 successful treatments available which have been in general, harshly
 suppressed by the AMA and the U.S. pharmaceutical/medical
 industrial/political complex.
 Note that it makes little sense for the "establishment" to support (or to
 even "allow" the existence of- from their elite/patrician viewpoint of
 "owning" the "healthcare marketplace") any alternatives to the $1 TRILLION
 per year medical industry- alternatives face an incredibly wealthy and
 completely unscrupuled and deadly opponent.
 NCI (National Cancer Institute) has a budget of $2.2 BILLION - they are a
 huge engine of deceit  about cancer treatment; a predominantly
 government-TAXATION funded organ of propaganda and disinformation.

 In addition to the pain, suffering and loss of productivity inflicted by
 each case of cancer, there is also a lot of money involved. Considering that
 treatment costs $80,000 to $160,000 per person over the past twenty years,
 the cost adds up to $2 billion to $3.7 billion per year and 50,000,000
 lives, or a total of $4 trillion to $7.5 trillion. The entire medical
 industry represents one-seventh of the total American GNP at one trillion
 dollars per year with revenues for all parties involved with cancer at $400
 billion annually.

 Seventy year old author of "Cure for all Cancers" and alternative health
 researcher Dr. Hulda Clark has just been allowed to post bail after being
 arrested on a 6 year old warrant for practicing medicine without a license.
 She's a PhD and ND (naturopathic doctor). She could use your support, see:
 http://www.asheville-computer.com/issues/huldaclark.html

 In an excerpt from Edward Griffen's  "World Without Cancer," we see some
 debunking of the death-dealing treatments supported by the NCI and the
 cancer industry (which EMPLOYS more persons than there are afflicted with
 cancer)  :
 http://www.best.com/~handpen/Cancell/world.htm

 Edward Griffin is an excellent researcher and author.
 There is quite a bit of evidence that Laetrile (B-17; apricot seed extract)
 may be effective.
 Mr. Griffin's book  many other little-known or suppressed works can be
 found at:
 http://realityzone.viamall.com/realityzone/healnut.html

 See this article on Charles Pixley (714x)
 http://www.thewinds.org/archive/medical/charles_pixley08-98.html

 Another author to read on the cancer topic is Ralph Moss. Almost 15 years
 ago, in his book "The Cancer Syndrome," Ralph Moss described the complex
 arrangement of interlocking committees, boards of directors, funding, and
 investments that enable industry to exert substantial influence over cancer
 research and advocacy. The types of conflict of interest which Moss
 described are still in effect today, as are a few new ones.
 http://home.sol.no/~dusan/cancer_dr_moss.html  (interview)
 This is an excellent site with a lot of general info,as well as specific
 info on Cancell
 http://www.best.com/~handpen/Cancell/cancell.htm
 another, lots of info on the cancer industry and on alternatives:
 http://home.sol.no/~dusan/cancerpage.html

 for more on apricot seeds see also:
 http://www.worldwithoutcancer.net/
 http://apricotsfromgod.com/

 Some other cancer treatment alternatives:
 http://www.rrrs.com/  (Rife machine research)

 http://www.frankmilitary.com/

 oxygen therapy... cancerous cells cannot use oxygen, and may be killed by it
 http://www.oxytherapy.com/
 http://pages.prodigy.net/thornton/cancer/oxygen.htm

 http://www.cerbe.com/pr01imga.htm (714x)

 Also (of course) TCM (traditional chinese medicine) and Ayurveda
 (traditional wholistic medicine of India).

 I've got some more links around here somewhere- but it's late now-  mebbe
 next time !


 Dave Hartley
 http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
 http://www.ioa.com/~davehart
  

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[CTRL] Fwd: [spynews] Serious security flaw in Microsoft Java

1999-10-13 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

In a message dated 10/13/1999 2:05:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 http://mprofaca.cro.net/mainmenu.html
 
 Tuesday October 12, 1999
 


 Source: RISKS-FORUM Digest 20.62
 *

 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 16:29:03 -0400
 From: "Edward W. Felten" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Serious security flaw in Microsoft Java

 Karsten Sohr at the University of Marburg has discovered another serious
 security flaw in Microsoft's Java Virtual Machine.  A bug in Microsoft's
 bytecode verifier allows the construction of code sequences that illegally
 cast values of one Java type to values of another unrelated type, in
 violation of Java's typing rules, without detection by Microsoft's verifier.
 A malicious applet can exploit this flaw to breach the JVM's security, and
 can then proceed to do anything it wants to do on the victim's computer.
 For example, a malicious applet might exploit this flaw to read private
 data, modify or delete files, or eavesdrop on the user's activities.

 Dirk Balfanz and I, at Princeton University, have constructed a
 demonstration applet that exploits this flaw to delete a file.

 All recent versions of Microsoft's JVM for Windows appear to be vulnerable,
 so users of recent versions of Internet Explorer are affected by this flaw.
 A malicious applet could also be embedded in an e-mail message read using
 Microsoft Outlook or Eudora.  Users of other JVMs, browsers, and email
 readers are generally not affected.  (Thanks to Reliable Software
 Technologies for their help in testing on various platforms.)

 We have reported this flaw to Microsoft and they are working to address it.

 For more information, contact Karsten Sohr ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 or Edward Felten ([EMAIL PROTECTED], phone (609) 258-5906).

 Edward Felten, Secure Internet Programming Lab, Dept. of Computer Science
 Princeton University

 --

 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 22:44:02 -0500
 From: Dan Wallach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Internet Explorer 5.0 flaws (Risks 20.61)

 Steve Wildstrom points out (in Risks 20.61), that ActiveX has been a thorn
 in Microsoft's side, which is certainly true.  He seems to suggest, however,
 that *all* of Microsoft's problems boil down to problems in ActiveX, which
 is *not* true.

 Together with colleagues at Princeton and Xerox PARC, we recently found a
 bug in Microsoft's Java VM (see Risks 20.55) that would let an attacker
 compromise the VM, irrespective of the target's ActiveX settings.
 Historically, it seems bugs have been found throughout Microsoft's systems,
 ranging from TCP/IP fragment reassembly (e.g., "the ping of death") through
 Microsoft's Web services, such as the recent HotMail privacy incident.

 While I would certainly enjoy seeing Microsoft reinvent their ActiveX
 architecture in favor of something that provided reasonable security
 guarantees (and, heaven forbid, portability across operating systems), that
 would only be the first step on the road ahead for Microsoft.

 Dan Wallach, Rice University
 --

 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 11:19:55 +0100
 From: Jonathan de Boyne Pollard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: FBI warns some Y2K fixes may be suspect (RISKS-20.61)

  The Federal Bureau of Investigation says that some of the
  Y2K-related programming fixes that were undertaken by
  foreign contractors may contain malicious code.  [...]
  Such code could contain "time bombs" set to detonate at
  some future date, [...]

 And how, exactly, would that be any different
 from the code that was there before ?  (-:

 JdeBP

 --

 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 09:25:52 -0400
 From: Brad Arkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: "Self-destructing e-mail"

 Intrigued by the headline "'Self-destruct' e-mail offers virtual privacy"
 (http://www.usatoday.com/life/cyber/tech/review/crg441.htm), I did some more
 investigating.  Disappearing Inc. (http://www.disappearing.com/) has few
 technical details on its web site, but the general idea is that by using
 their plug-in two people can send and receive encrypted messages with the
 added feature that the key is held by Disappearing Inc.  Anytime the
 recipient wishes to read the message, they must authenticate themselves to
 Disappearing Inc. in order to retrieve the key.  Disappearing Inc. logs all
 accesses to the key and destroys the key at the end of its life span.
 Disappearing Inc. claims that once the key is destroyed the message can
 never be read again, and thus the message has effectively self-destructed
 like a Mission:Impossible assignment.

 While it is possible (although sadly, unlikely) that Disappearing Inc.  has
 implemented this system using an appropriate mix of good authentication
 scheme, strong encryption algorithm, secure key generation, high level of
 site security, and secure key transmission it doesn't really matter.  All
 Disappearing Inc. 

[CTRL] How Many Subscribers?

1999-10-13 Thread Taylor, John (JH)

 -Caveat Lector-

Question: How many internet mail list subscribers does it take to
change a light bulb?

Answer: 1,331:

1 to change the light bulb and to post to the mail list that the light bulb
has been changed;
14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the light
bulb could have been changed differently;
7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs;
27 to point out spelling / grammar errors in posts about changing light
bulbs;
53 to flame the spell checkers;
156 to write to the list administrator complaining about the light bulb
discussion and its inappropriateness to this mail list;
41 to correct spelling in the spelling/grammar flames;
109 to post that this list is not about light bulbs and to please take this
email exchange to alt.lite.bulb;
203 to demand that cross posting to alt.grammar, alt.spelling and
alt.punctuation about changing light bulbs be stopped;
111 to defend the posting to this list saying that we all use light bulbs
and therefore the posts _are_ relevant to this mail list;
306 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where to buy
the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this
technique, and what brands are faulty;
27 to post URLs where one can see examples of different light bulbs;
14 to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly, and to post corrected
URLs;
3 to post about links they found from the URLs that are relevant to this
list which makes light bulbs relevant to this list;
33 to concatenate all posts to date, then quote them including all headers
and footers, and then add "Me Too";
12 to post to the list that they are unsubscribing because they cannot
handle the light bulb controversy;
19 to quote the "Me Too's" to say, "Me Three";
4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ;
1 to propose new alt.change.lite.bulb newsgroup;
47 to say this is just what alt.physic.cold_fusion was meant for, leave it
here; and,
143 votes for alt.lite.bulb.

===
(not forgetting the various conspiracy theories about who changed the light
bulb, why and the nature of its masonic and kabbalistic symbolism)

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Re: [CTRL] How Many Subscribers?

1999-10-13 Thread C Davis

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That was pricelessmade my day..post2,305 for light bulbs!

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[CTRL] Fwd: Stolen Land Bankrolls the Most Dangerous Man in Europe

1999-10-13 Thread Kris Millegan







THE STOLEN JEWISH ESTATE THAT'S BANKROLLING 
THE MOST DANGEROUS MAN IN EUROPE

From Kim Willsher
In Vienna, Austria

Jorg Haider has been described as one of Europe's most dangerous
politicians. He has admired Adolf Hitler's employment policies, referred to
concentration camps such as Auschwitz as 'penal' centres and once described
notorious SS soldiers as 'decent men with character'.

Nor does Haider make any secret of his ambition to become Austrian
Chancellor in the near future. It is hardly surprising,

therefore, that the recent election success of Haider's far-Right Freedom
Party - known more disparagingly as the Fuhrer Party - has left the world
fearing that the spectre of Nazism has returned to haunt and torture it
once more.

For Jewish professor Alexander Roifer, the recent emergence of Haider as a
power broker


in Austrian politics has revived the ghosts of his family's troubled past.

While the designer-clad, Porsche-driving Haider, the son of a Nazi can
justifiably claim to be one of Austria's richest men, the professor who
lives on a modest university salary in Jerusalem, can equally claim to have
been robbed of his birthright - the vast and lucrative estate which is the
basis of Haider's fortune.

The story of Haider and Roifer, uncovered by The Mail on Sunday, is a tale
of two very different men: one with former Nazi links who has benefited
from the evils of the past; the other, one of countless Jewish victims of
that evil dispossessed after being forced to flee Europe in fear of their
lives.

On Wednesday, 49-year-old Haider will visit London as part of a whistlestop
tour of European capitals aimed at restoring his tarnished reputation.

He will announce that he has been misunderstood, misquoted and maligned.
Afterwards he will return to his home in the Right-wing stronghold of
Carinthia in southern Austria.

For the perma-tanned Haider, home is a magnificent 3,700-acre property
called Barental - Bear Valley - a hunting, shooting, fishing and
wood-logging estate worth a conservative £10 million.

Signed over to him in 1986, in a generous deed of gift from his
great-uncle, Wilhelm Webhofer, it is Barental which funds Haider's
extravagant image.

But while there is no question that he is the legal owner of the estate,
his family's acquisition of the property is still a matter of moral debate
and takes us into the darkest corners of Austria's past.

Before the war, Barental belonged to Professor Roifer's father, Giorgio, a
Jewish merchant born in Russia who studied law in Vienna before moving into
the timber industry.

Settling in Pisa, Italy, in the Twenties he founded a wood importing
business with a friend and ten years later pur



chased the forest area known as Barental near the Austrian border with
Slovenia.

Roifer was always careful with his money, but his family lived well, with
servants, horses and cars, and counted themselves among Italy's comfortably
well-off.

Roifer's business plan, however, had not accounted for the Anschluss - Nazi
Germany's annexation of Austria - in March 1938. According to Hitler, not a
single life was lost in the conquest of Austria. In fact, it led to the
murder, suicide and dispossession of thousands of Jews in a wave of brutal
anti-Semitism and the spontaneous 'Aryanisation' of the country - the
removal of property and assets from their Jewish owners.

It was only a few weeks after the Anschluss that Roifer found a sign on the
entrance of the Moser Hotel in the town of Klagenfurt, where he liked to
stay when visiting his estate.

'Dogs and Jews are not welcome,' it read.

Shortly afterwards Roifer, just 38, died of cancer. But on his deathbed,
anticipating the terrible persecution that was to come, he urged his wife,
Mathilde, to flee to Palestine with their children daughter Noemi, aged 10,
Josef, eight, and Alexander, then just six.

A year later Mathilde Roifer left Italy, entrusting the family's property,
including Barental, to her brother-in-law, who shortly afterwards was forced

to sign over responsibility for the family's assets to an Austrian lawyer.

At the beginning of 1941 Barental was sold to Josef Webhofer - Wilhelm's
father- a rich businessman and Nazi activist, who sealed the deal after he
was recommended as a good party member to Heinrich Himmler, who was head of
Hitler's secret police, the Gestapo.

The sale, recorded as an ' Entjudungsangelegenheit' - a matte r of taking
something from a Jew - was, according to documents, transacted between
Webhofer, 'a full Aryan', and Mathilde Roifer, 'a Jewess'.

The purchase price was 300,000 Reichsmarks - around £750,000 at today's
prices - and about one tenth of its real value.

Of the sale price, 92,000 Reichsmarks were deducted to pay off a bank loan,
while the remaining 208,000 Reichsmarks were ordered to be paid into a
'blocked' bank account.

By the end of the war when Mathilde Roifer learned of the sale and was able
to release the bank account, rampant inflation had made it 

[CTRL] The Midas Touch

1999-10-13 Thread Kris Millegan

 -Caveat Lector-

from:
http://www.lfcity.com/zbeta/Blind/midas_touch.html
A HREF="http://www.lfcity.com/zbeta/Blind/midas_touch.html"The Midas Touch,
by Wolf DeVoon/A
-

The Midas Touch

Or, A Newcomer’s Humble Appraisal of
The Difference Between Laissez Faire City and Galt’s Gulch

by Wolf DeVoon


After careful consideration of everything I’ve observed during my first
two weeks in Laissez Faire City, I can say with a high degree of
confidence that the difference between Galt’s Gulch and this joint is --
not much.

The only way to get here is by invitation (like I did) or by
gate-crashing (like Dagny Taggart). If you decide to gate-crash, mind
the dogs. They look fierce and are fierce. I’m not at liberty to discuss
some of the other security measures to keep intruders away, but I assure
you that the dogs are safer. At least you can attempt to reason with a
dog.

Inside Laissez Faire City, one begins to wonder why the whole world
isn’t organized this way. No one explained "the rules" to me, because
there apparently aren’t any, aside from the common sense prohibition of
reckless contact with outsiders. LFC Headquarters is a walled,
high-security laboratory designed for prodigies and Third Wave kids of
all ages. It hums like a 24-hour beehive. I believe if they wanted to
turn the earth physically upside down to inspect its undercarriage, they
could do it. Laissez Faire City has an impressive array of brains and
brawn and technical facilities, and I’ll bet that I only got the 25-cent
tour of half of it.

Around the corner from Headquarters, there’s a four-star restaurant for
LFC residents and diplomats, a hotel for LFC guests, and the sedate
tree-lined campus of Rand University. A short hop by private plane or
helicopter and you arrive at my house, so to speak. I don’t actually own
the place. It’s unlikely that anyone other than Bill Gates or Donald
Trump could own such a place -- a mansion on a hilltop overlooking the
ocean. It requires a staff of three to keep the gardens in shape, clean
the kidney-shaped swimming pool, and run the kitchen. The land is
indescribably beautiful, with every spectacular form of wildlife
imaginable, including big cats. The ocean is full of marlin, sailfish,
tuna, lobster, you name it. Amazingly, there are no mosquitos up here --
only huge, royal blue butterflies, fuzzy gray raccoons, incredible stick
insects about the size of a Parker pen, and big brown monkeys howling in
the trees on the other side of my driveway.

After a night or two in a clean, comfortable room in paradise, you might
be invited to visit the LFC Mountain Fortress, currently under
construction. It’s literally half a mountain, with enough room to
rebuild Bel Air. I think they’re getting close to completing the bank
vaults and trading rooms. All the structural work is done, anyway --
thick, reinforced concrete walls rising in tiers on the highest point
for a couple hundred miles. The view is unlike anything I’ve ever seen
before, and I’ve seen most of North America and Europe. There is a
deeply profound sense of serenity and rightness, standing on a plinth
overlooking the emerald forest and endless ocean, perceiving the
curvature of the earth.

So, if we’re talking about the actual differences between Laissez Faire
City and Galt’s Gulch, the most important discrepancy is an existential
one. LFC is real -- not fictional. It’s on a mountaintop, not tucked
away in some pokey valley.

The Big Difference

There’s another set of differences, largely historical in nature. We
have internet clout coming out of our ears and the ability to make
markets. I can only guess how much dough is being moved and traded daily
in cyberspace. What I do know is that Laissez Faire City, despite all of
its plush real estate, exists mainly as a "virtual" city that spans the
globe. Two-thirds of our full-time residents live somewhere else in the
world, working on screens wired to LFC and a growing population of
cyber-entrepreneurs. Sorry, Dagny, no diesel railroads in this version
of Atlantis. You’ll have to go to Philly or Boston to visit Amtrak (if
any of their trains happen to be running, instead of derailing that
day). There’s an old commuter line that thumps through Silicon Valley
and an occasional freight train or two in Colorado -- but that’s about
the extent of locomotion on steel in the post-industrial world. LFC uses
757 jets and Cessna turboprops for fast, friendly carriage of passengers
and cargo to our neck of the woods.

Maybe that implies another structural difference between LFC and Ayn
Rand’s 1957 sketch of utopia. Laissez Faire City speaks several
languages, including French, Russian, Polish, Danish, Dutch, and
Japanese. English is spoken in two separate dialects, because the
founders advertised in The Economist magazine for free-market talent. I
saw a stack of letters (five feet tall!) received in reply. LFC also
recruited participants in Singapore and mainland China. This is not a
pocket enclave. It’s a global 

Re: [CTRL] Fw: Smokers Fired

1999-10-13 Thread Tatman, Robert

 -Caveat Lector-

Amen, Jamie. I am a former smoker who now suffers from chronic lung disease
(pulmonary sarcoidosis). Bluntly, other people's smoke makes me cough, and
enough of it can make it difficult for me to breathe. Whenever I enter or
leave an office building nowadays, I have to (literally) hold my breath to
keep from inhaling the smoke from the addicts clustered around the doorway.

Should smoking be illegal? Perhaps not. It's *your* life, after all... Just
remember one thing: "Cancer cures smoking."

 -Original Message-
 From: Stopforth, Jamie [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 8:26 AM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: [CTRL] Fw: Smokers Fired

  -Caveat Lector-

   To be quite honest.  I'm tired of having to breath that stuff.  It
 happens
 numerous times when I'm walking out to my car or just anywhere outside...
 Smoking shouldn't be illegal.  But it shouldn't be done in public where
 others have breath it.
 If you want to commit a slow suicide by all means do it.  But I'm not
 following you.

 Jamie



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Re: [CTRL] George Orwell to Hoover: Please Endorse My Book

1999-10-13 Thread Tatman, Robert

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*1984* was, AFAIK, intended more as a satire on Stalinism and the Communist
elite than it was as an attack on bureaucracy in general. Orwell was coming
at the subject from the standpoint of a disillusioned leftist who was not
about to go over to the Right. The book was designed as a wakeup call for
Western progressives who still, as late as 1948, tended to idealize the
Soviet Union. Yes, looking at the book fifty years later, things do seem to
be shaking down roughly along the geopolitical lines "predicted" by
Orwell...but hindsight is always 20-20. The closest thing around today to
Orwell's totalitarian state is North Korea, the sole remaining Stalinist
state.

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 9:14 AM
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 Subject:  [CTRL] George Orwell to Hoover: Please Endorse My Book

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 http://www.apbnews.com/media/gfiles/orwell/index.html

 George Orwell to Hoover: Please Endorse My Book
 Author's Publicist Sent 1984 to FBI Director
 Sept. 20, 1999

 By Janon Fisher



 AP
 George Orwell

  NEW YORK (APBnews.com) -- In what could have been the ultimate marketing
 coup, the publisher of George Orwell's novel 1984 asked America's
 incarnation
 of Big Brother, FBI director J. Edgar Hoover, to endorse the book.

 According to Orwell's FBI file, released under the U.S. Freedom of
 Information Act, Hoover declined. Instead, Hoover filed the request in a
 dossier he created on Orwell.

 FBI files show that in April 1949, Eugene Reynal, vice president of
 Harcourt,
 Brace and Co., wrote Hoover, arguably the incarnation of Orwell's
 authoritarian bureaucracy, for his thumbs up on the book.




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[CTRL] Fwd: Fascinating Reading On What Colt Is Really Up To

1999-10-13 Thread Kris Millegan





Joe's Second Amendment Message Board
http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/mbs.cgi/mb618060

Fascinating Reading On What Colt Is Really Up To...


http://www.insidetheweb.com/messageboard/mbs.cgi?acct=mb618060MyNum=939337923P=NoTL=939337923Fascinating
Reading On What Colt Is Really Up


 Colt Manufacturing, Inc., plagued by vendor-creditors and
 double-digit lawsuits, including those from several major
 US cities, is working busily behind the scenes to stiff vendors
 and the cities, along with their own union employees. Colt
 has long wanted to move out of their antiquated factory in
 West Hartford, which has been plagued with union problems
 since the early '90s. CMI (Colt Manufacturing, Inc.) is owned
 by New York banker, Donald Zilkha, who still maintains his
 Iraqi citizenship. Unfortunately, while Mr. Zilkha owns CMI,
 he *does not* own the name "Colt". That belongs to the
 State of Connecticut. The State gained ownership of
 the name when the companies previous owners went
 bankrupt in 1994 owing the State of Connecticut pension
 fund $11,000,000.

 Zilkha's arrangement with the State required him to keep
 the ailing company in Connecticut for ten years, which
 included the manufacturing of any gun that had ever been
 produced in that factoryor pay the State $11,000,000
 they lost in the previous bankruptcy. Apparently Zilkha
 has come up with an exit strategy that will allow him to
 both move the company's manufacturing to friendlier,
 non-union, ground and leave the companies creditors
 sucking wind. Zilkha is now negotiating with the State
 to finally buy the name "Colt".

 The plan calls for a breakup of the existing company into
 four separate legal entities. The majority of the Colt pistol
 line will be eliminated and the remaining models, including
 their popular single action revolvers, Pocket 9, Pony,
 Defender and the new Officer's carry will be moved to a
 new company, "Colt Classics", in Springfield, Mass.
 This will serve as their "custom shop", as well as handling
 consumer gun sales. No need to run out panic buying a
 Colt product one of these products listed above is what
 you're interested in.

 Colt's military weapons, the M4 carbine and the M16, will
 be moved to another Colt Holdings owned company,
 SACO Defense in Maine. They will undoubtedly continue
 the production of the AR15 as well, but it will most likely
 be sold through the "Custom Shop"...no doubt at a higher
 price.

 CMI, the current corporation, with all it's outstanding debts
 to vendors, along with it's many lawsuits, and union contracts
 will file for protection under Federal Bankruptcy statutes
 and the factory in West Hartford will be closed, leaving the
 many creditors and the 780 employees out in the cold.

 Colt headquarters and it's executives, under yet another
 corporate veil (iColt), will move to a location near Washington
 D.C. to focus on their lobbying efforts which include more
 sweetheart military contracts and government grants for
 developing their much touted but non-existent "Smart Gun".
 Zilkha has been lobbying Democratic lawmakers to *give*
 the company $100,000,000 in development money for this
 white elephant. Unfortunately for Mr. Zilkha, another company
 has recently shown an NIJ panel, who previously gave
 Colt $500,000 for Smart Gun development, that they are at
 least two years ahead of Colt in the development of Smart
 Gun technology. Colt is unlikely to land their government
 windfall for Smart Gun development. Colt president, Steve
 Sliwa, speaking about the Smart Gun, has publicly stated
 that Colt has "bet the future of the company on it". Even Zilkha
 political crony, Sen. Chuck Schumer, won't be able to get this
 money out of Congress for Colt's non-existent pipe-dream.

 Numerous firings over the last few months, which included
 several long-time Colt executives and department heads,
 indicate that this move is not far off. Colt will continue
 negotiating with the cities regarding a settlement of the
 numerous lawsuits, but once Zilkha has secured the rights to
 "Colt" name from the State of Connecticut, and they complete
 their plans to divide up the profitable areas of the company,
 safe from creditors, the cities will find that Mr. Zilkha has left
 them holding an empty bag. The other gun companies being
 sued will surely be the loser in this battle. The ultimate loser
 will be the American gun owner.

 There is everything in this story for a good novel. A rich
 Iraqi oilman/banker, from the richest Jewish family in America
 (I only include this as a point of interest...I'm hardly an anti-
 Semite as Aaron Zellman will attest to), attempting to control
 85% of the world's arms market! Yup...one of those stories
 that's just too wild to be believable, but that's what's happening.
 Zilkha has already purchased SACO Defence. He tried,
 unsuccessfully to buy Remington. He's tried twice, unsuccessfully,
 to buy Fabrique National (which also owns Browning and
 Winchester). He 

[CTRL] OEN 10/13/99

1999-10-13 Thread Kris Millegan

 -Caveat Lector-

from:
http://www.aci.net/kalliste/
A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A
-


Today's Lesson from "Knut Hamsun, Artist of Skepticism"

by Isaac Bashevis Singer


The whole modern school of fiction in the twentieth century stems from
Hamsun, just as Russian literature in the nineteenth century "came out
of Gogol's greatcoat". They were all Hamsun's disciples: Thomas Mann and
Arthur Schnitzler, Jack Wasserman and Stefan Zweig, Zeromski and Bunin,
Kellerman and Peter Altenberg, D'Annunzio and Hermann Bang, and even
such American writers as Fitzgerald and Hemingway, whether they
acknowledged the debt or not. Literary influences often do not come in a
direct fashion. Hamsun even had an effect on Hebrew and Yiddish
literature. Agnon, Schoffmann, and Bergelson were influenced by him.
This writer was enchanted with Hamsun's prose for years. Hamsun was
perhaps the first to show how childish the so-called grownups are. His
heroes are all children--as romantic as children, as irrational and
often as savage. Hamsun discovered even before Freud did that love and
sex are a child's game. . . .
=

Nukes of Hazard

Coup d'Etat in Pakistan

So, who kicks out whom?

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan - Pakistani Army troops took over state-run
television and radio stations throughout the country Tuesday, closed
major airports and announced that the prime minister and his government
had been removed.
The move followed Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif's surprise dismissal,
hours earlier, of the powerful army chief of staff, General Pervez
Musharraf. The general was on a visit to Sri Lanka at the time.

In a swift reaction, army troops cordoned off the prime minister in his
residence in Islamabad, took over the houses of several other top
ministers and seized other government buildings.

A senior police official said that troops had told Mr. Sharif not to
leave his home and that police there had been disarmed. A military
source said that Mr. Sharif's brother, Shahbaz Sharif, who had been
chief minister in Punjab Province, was also in ''protective custody'' at
the prime minister's home.

General Musharraf flew back to Pakistan later Tuesday and was met by a
large contingent of soldiers at the airport in the southern city of
Karachi. He then went to Karachi's television station, where he was
preparing to deliver a speech to the nation, the army information office
said.

The announcement of the dismissal of Mr. Sharif, who became prime
minister in February 1997, occurred in a message that scrolled across
the screen on national television Tuesday evening. ''The government has
been dismissed,'' the brief statement said. No reason was given.

Hundreds of Pakistanis gathered outside a state-run television station
in Islamabad to show their support for the military's move. ''Long Live
the Pakistan Army!'' they chanted.

In New Delhi, Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee held a crisis meeting
with his top security and foreign-policy advisers. The reports from
Pakistan ''are causing grave concern,'' Ashok Tandon, a spokesman for
Mr. Vajpayee, said.

The Indian Army went on a state of high alert along the border, a senior
officer at India's command center in Kashmir said.

The military's seizure of key government buildings in Islamabad does not
appear to have affected control over the country's nuclear weapons,
which already had been in the hands of the army, the Pentagon said
Tuesday. But the U.S. military indicated it was unsure exactly what was
happening in Pakistan.

Television broadcasts had been cut off for about three hours after Mr.
Sharif made the announcement that he had fired General Musharraf and
replaced him with Lieutenant General Khawaja Zia Uddin.

International phone lines out of the capital were cut, while television
began broadcasting nationalistic songs and footage of Pakistani troops
and heavy armor in parades. A bank holiday was declared for Wednesday,
apparently to prevent a run on the currency.

Shots were heard in a suburb after the soldiers deployed.

''I can hear what appear to be shots or the sound of gunfire,'' a
witness said, adding that the shots appeared to be coming from the
Margalla Hill diplomatic district.

The first indication that the army was moving to seize control off the
nation's key facilities and institutions came when Pakistan Television's
main studio in Islamabad abruptly went off the air after soldiers were
seen leaping over the fence and going inside the building. Soldiers were
posted at gates, and no one was allowed in.

The army also surrounded the Islamabad airport, according to witnesses.
Soldiers also took over the houses of government officials, according to
witnesses who saw troops lock the gate to the home of Mushahid Hussein,
the information minister. Soldiers also were seen entering the homes of
Foreign Minister Sartaj Aziz and Accountability Minister Saifur Rehman.

In 

Re: [CTRL] Fw: Smokers Fired

1999-10-13 Thread YnrChyldzWyld

 -Caveat Lector-

On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, Tatman, Robert wrote:
Amen, Jamie. I am a former smoker who now suffers from chronic lung disease
(pulmonary sarcoidosis). Bluntly, other people's smoke makes me cough, and
enough of it can make it difficult for me to breathe.

Same here.  Any form of smoke, even from a fireplace or barbecue, makes
me ill, since I'm allergic to smoke, period.  It isn't a matter of
'liking' or 'disliking', beyond the fact that I like to be well and
dislike being ill...


Whenever I enter or
leave an office building nowadays, I have to (literally) hold my breath to
keep from inhaling the smoke from the addicts clustered around the doorway.

Some places have passed laws prohibiting smoking within between 60 to 100
feet of an entrance to a public building


Should smoking be illegal? Perhaps not. It's *your* life, after all... Just
remember one thing: "Cancer cures smoking."

I think it should return to the way it was pre-WWII, when smokers
routinely asked 'do you mind if I smoke?' (and would gladly NOT smoke if
someone objected), and separate smoking areas were established for those
who needed a puffseparate smoking rooms in public buildings and most
private residences, separate smoking cars on trains

And before WWII, smoking in the office was NOT a routine practice

June ;-)

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[CTRL] Lurid account of 1943 nuclear accident in Oak Ridge, Tennessee

1999-10-13 Thread Ric Carter

Lurid account of 1943 nuclear accident in Oak Ridge, Tennessee


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[CTRL] Fears: WTO Seattle Meeting/Demo Nov30-Dec3

1999-10-13 Thread David Crockett Williams





-Original Message-From: 
Mitch Battros [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 
Breaking News [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: 
Wednesday, October 13, 1999 10:01 AMSubject: Earth Changes 
TV/Breaking News - Hospitals/Emergency Mgnt. go Code 
DeltaHospitals And 
Emergency Management Office On Code Delta...10/13/99 
by Mitch Battros (ECTV) 
I can confirm from a source close to the case, local 
hospitals in the Seattle area will be on Code Delta (which stands 
for code disaster) during the World Seattle Summit which occurs just after the 
Thanksgiving holidays. 
To a terrorist, everything is perfect. High ranking 
dignitaries from around the world, the busiest time of the year for airports and 
travel, a perfect set up for people from countries around the would to bring 
home a virus released in Seattle. 
Officials have stepped up their training for 
epidemiologist, nurses, doctors, volunteers, emergency personal, i.e. police, 
fire, red cross, and other assorted government agency's. It was quoted from an 
source close to the case It could be either a anthrax type disaster which 
would be immediate and at the scene, or even worse, a virus that is release (in 
deadly silence) in which people from all over the world have gathered in one 
place (Seattle) exposed and then take the virus home with 
them. 
I think there is no coincidence related to the 
Urgent funding presented by president Bill Clinton for 
Bio-Terroism and the immediate funding for a Level 4 biotech 
engineering plant near New York. 
This is an extremely fluid story. Stay tuned for more 
breaking news on this issue. For now, please visit the CDC web site for 
information on biological agents. CDC Web 
Site: http://www.cdc.gov/health/diseases.htm 
 
Protesters From Around World To Flock To 
Seattle Trade Summit...10/13/99 Duncan Campbell in Los Angeles 
and John Vidal 
It is the worst nightmare of US conservatives. Hundreds of protest groups, 
tens of thousands of political activists from all over the world, plus Fidel 
Castro and the Mexican Zapatista revolutionaries, will gather in Seattle next 
month for the biggest protest against global capitalism ever held. 
The demonstrations during the summit meeting of the World Trade Organisation 
from November 30 to December 3 are being labelled the apocalypse, 
and the federal authorities are nervously considering how to defuse the tension 
at an event the world will be watching. 
It will be a historic confrontation between corporate rule and civil 
society, said Mike Dolan, field director of Global Trade Watch. 
Every day new groups, ranging from mainstream US trade union federationssuch 
as the AFL-CIO to the People of Colour Against Aids Network and radical 
Christian organisations, register their intention to join the activities at the 
edge of the stage where the world's most powerful decision-makers will meet. 
Preliminary demonstrations offering a taste of what will happen next month have 
been taking place this week in Seattle. 
About 5,000 delegates from 150 countries will attend the official event. 
President Bill Clinton will represent the US and Bill Gates of Microsoft and 
Phil Condit of Boeing are heading the host city's delegation. They will be 
discussing - although many of the decisions will already have been made - the 
further liberalisation of trade, the cutting of tariffs and subsidies, the 
introduction of GM foods, and the patenting of nature, to open the global market 
to greater investment. 
People with grievances ranging from the sweatshop workers of Mexico to the 
small farmers of India see it as their last chance this century to register 
their dismay at the globalisation of the economy, which they claim has already 
had a disastrous impact on the economies of weaker countries. 
The WTO believes it has been singled out unfairly. In the absence of 
global conflict between 'isms', some people have chosen to focus their fury on 
globalism, said Michael Moore, the organisation's head. 
British environmental activists, who are considered some of the most 
experienced in the world, have been helping to train some of the American 
groups. 
In the past few weeks representatives from Reclaim the Streets, which was 
involved in organising the street parties and Stop the City protests 
in London that ended in riots, have been holding workshops about non-violent 
direct action and mass demonstrations. 
Mitch Battros Producer - Earth Changes TV http://www.earthchangesTV.com 



[CTRL] Fw: New military unit for domestic deployment

1999-10-13 Thread Kathleen

 -Caveat Lector-

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_dougherty/19991013_xnjdo_
new_mili
ta.shtml

 WEDNESDAY OCTOBER 13 1999

New military unit for domestic deployment

Cohen says Americans should 'welcome' troops on home soil

  By Jon E. Dougherty
 © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com

Critics are denouncing recent congressional changes to the Posse
Comitatus
Act that will allow a broader use of U.S. military forces in a
domestic law enforcement role including a new unit for deployment
in
assisting civilian officers during a terrorist attack.

The new command, established Oct. 7 in Norfolk, Va., will be called
the U.S. Joint Forces Command, and replaces the former U.S.
Atlantic
Command. At a ceremony commemorating the new unit, Defense
Secretary
William Cohen told participants the American people shouldn't fear
the
potential of seeing U.S. military forces on the streets of U.S.
cities.

The military must "deal with the threats we are most likely to face,"
Cohen told reporters, downplaying concerns about troops operating
on
home soil. "The American people should not be concerned about it.
They
should welcome it."

The new command is designed to prepare U.S. troops to fight abroad or
to

respond if terrorists strike with nuclear, chemical or biological
weapons.

In opposing the measure, critics cite the 1878 Posse Comitatus Act,
which prohibits federal troops from participating in domestic law
enforcement activities under most circumstances. With the concern over
domestic terrorism rising since the World Trade Center bombing and
numerous incidences of cyber-attacks on U.S. defense and financial
institutions, the Clinton administration has begun to relax some of
those restrictions.

In July, WorldNetDaily reported the new measures would end the
requirement
for local law agencies to reimburse the federal government for any
local

use of military equipment, as well as enable the Department of Defense
to deploy military troops in cases of anticipated or actual terrorist
attacks.

Then, David Kopel of the Independence Institute warned that the
measures

would, if passed, "set (bad) precedents for years to come."

Since the Waco debacle in 1993, when federal law officers and military
personnel assaulted a church community resulting in the deaths of over
80 men, women and children, Kopel said the federal government has been
"eroding the protections contained in the Posse Comitatus Act." In the
past, he told WorldNetDaily, most of the amendments to the original
law had been based on bogus drug issues. Now, he said, that issue
seems to have shifted to so-called terrorist attacks, or at least the
threat of them.

The Defense Department has said only the military has enough equipment
to operate in a poisoned environment, or to manage a massive
decontamination effort. Secretary Cohen told reporters last week that
federal law will not be violated because the military would only
respond if requested.

"It is subordinate to civilian control," he said.

But Gregory Nojeim, legislative counsel for the American Civil
Liberties

Union in Washington, D.C., told WorldNetDaily he is concerned about
"nightmare scenarios" like those in the recent films, "Enemy of the
State" and "The Siege."

"Soldiers are not equipped, by training or temperament, to enforce the
laws with proper regard for civil and constitutional rights," he said.
"They're trained to kill the enemy."

Nojeim said the ACLU is concerned about "letting loose the most
effective
fighting force in the history of the world" on American civilians.

Cohen said that the creation of the Joint Forces Command would better
coordinate the training of the four armed services. However, history
is replete with reasons why some Americans continue to be hesitant
about using military troops in a law enforcement capacity.

Besides questions about the Army's Delta Force role during the Waco
siege, most recently, in 1997, U.S. Marines assigned to assist the
U.S. Border Patrol in combating illegal immigration accidentally shot
and killed an 18-year-old goat herder. That force has since been
withdrawn and reassigned, but lawmakers have remained committed to
expanding the military's civil law enforcement role in other ways.

For example, the military also has been given an expanded role in
defending against cyber-terrorism, or assaults on U.S. computer
systems. The U.S. Space Command in Colorado will be leading that
effort.

Nojeim questioned the need for such an expansion of federal military
forces into the domestic law enforcement arena, even though U.S.
officials have

said the nation is now at greater risk of terrorist attack. He also
believes the White House should do a better job of educating the
American people about why the changes to the Posse Comitatus law are
needed.

"For years the federal government has showered the FBI with hundreds
of millions of new dollars to help it combat crimes involving chemical
and biological weapons," he told WorldNetDaily. "Taxpayers need to
know where that 

[CTRL] Fwd: NCPA Policy Digest 10-13-99

1999-10-13 Thread Carl Amedio

In a message dated 10/13/99 12:07:31 PM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 "NATURAL PROCESSES" ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANTARCTIC MELTING

 Global warming is not -- that's NOT -- responsible for melting
 the West Antarctic Ice Sheet, say scientists.  In a study
 published in the prestigious journal Science, a team of
 scientists led by Howard Conway of the University of Washington
 say the Ice Sheet may be headed for a complete meltdown in a
 process that started thousands of years, and there is no
 evidence the rate is accelerating.

o   The process "may have been predetermined when the
grounding line retreat was triggered in early Holocene
time," says the report -- about 10,000 years ago.

o   The grounding line -- the boundary between floating ice
and ice thick enough to reach the sea floor -- has
retreated about 800 miles since the last ice age, withdrawing
an average of about 400 feet per year for the last 7,600
years.

o   "It seems like the rate [of melting] that has been going on
since the early Holocene is similar to the rate right now,"
says Conway.  "Collapse appears to be part of an ongoing
natural cycle, probably caused by [a] rising sea level initiated
by the melting of the Northern Hemisphere ice sheets at the end
of the last ice age."

o   Continued shrinking, perhaps even complete disintegration, "could
well be inevitable," the report concludes.

 According to estimates, the ice sheet's complete melting could raise the
 global sea level by 15 feet to 20 feet.  But at the current rate of melting,
 which is raising sea levels about 0.04 inches annually, that would take
 about 7,000 years.

 Source: Associated Press, "Melting of Antarctic Ice Sheet Is Linked to
 Ancient History," New York Times, October 12, 1999.

 For NCPA's Global Warming Hotline go to
 http://www.ncpa.org/hotlines/global/gwhot.html

 SUPPLY-SIDE REFORMS BOLSTER JAPAN

 The Japanese economy, recently in the doldrums, has rebounded
 remarkably.  The reason for this, observers believe, is a set of
 reforms similar to those the world has seen work at least twice
 before: Ronald Reagan's in the U.S., and Margaret Thatcher's in
 Britain.

o   In April, the Japanese government cut the highest marginal
personal tax income rate (federal and local) from 63
percent to 47 percent.

o   The highest corporate tax rate was cut by 10 percent to
just over 40 percent.

o   Small business tax rates were cut from about 34 percent to
27 percent.

o   There were no phase-outs, no exceptions, no ties to
deficit reductions; in other words, pure supply-side
economics.

 That wasn't all.  Japan also cut the capital gains tax rate and
 the death tax rate, abolished the tax on stock trades, and
 suspended for two years the special one percent tax on corporate
 pensions.  As a result, the yen has strengthened on the foreign
 exchange markets, the stock market shows dollar gains of 36
 percent (and is now the best performer in the world) and Prime
 Minister Keizo Obuchi's popularity is soaring.

 The changes are just in time.  During the 1990s, government
 spending led to huge deficits and a national debt in dollar terms
 larger than that of the United States.  In response, Japan
 leveled the highest tax rate of any Group of Seven country, which
 slowed the economy further without raising extra revenue.  Even
 now, after reforms are underway, Japan still has an all-time high
 in unemployment and output growth has been non-existent.  Prime
 Minister Obuchi's reforms, which now could include social
 security reform, couldn't have been more timely, observers say.

 Source: Arthur B. Laffer, "Japan Rises Again," Wall Street
 Journal, October 11, 1999.

 For more on Japan http://www.ncpa.org/pi/internat/intdex9.html
  




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DAILY POLICY DIGEST
Wednesday, October 13, 1999

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IN TODAY'S DIGEST

   o   PRODUCTIVITY COULD GROW 2.9 PERCENT WITHOUT INFLATION,
   says a new study, indicating economic growth of 4 percent
   would be noninflationaryNCPA

   o   TRIAL LAWYERS WANT TO SUE PAINT COMPANIES for the health
   costs of lead paint poisoningWALL STREET JOURNAL

   o   ABOUT 20 PERCENT OF WORKERS OFFERED HEALTH INSURANCE
   REFUSE IT, according to a new surveyCENTER FOR
   STUDYING HEALTH SYSTEM CHANGE/USA TODAY

   o   SOME 14 PERCENT OF TEXAS TEACHERS ARE ALTERNATIVELY
   CERTIFIED, and nationwide the ranks of such teachers are
   growingUSA TODAY

   o   PLAINTIFFS SUE TO BE MONITORED for illnesses they may not
   haveINVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY

   o   GLOBAL WARMING IS NOT CAUSING THE ANTARCTIC ICE SHEET TO
   MELT, according to 

Re: [CTRL] Corroboration of Child Abuse Memories

1999-10-13 Thread Smart News

 -Caveat Lector-

Below please find information on Corroboration of Child Abuse Memories.

Sincerely,  Neil Brick

excerpts from
http://mentalhealth.miningco.com/health/mentalhealth/mentalhealth/library/week
ly/aa041398.htm

Wed, Oct  13,  1999

Leonard Holmes, Ph.D.
Corroboration of Child Abuse Memories
04/13/98

The December 1996 issue of the journal Dissociation (which was actually
published in March of 1998) contains three articles exploring the parameters
of recovered memories. Last week's feature summarized a Dutch study of
recovered memory in abuse survivors. In the same issue of Dissociation
Elizabeth Bowman, M.D. has written an excellent two-part article summarizing
the current state of the research literature concerning delayed memories of
child abuse.

Bowman notes that cognitive psychologists who have not studied traumatized
individuals have contributed much of the research literature on memory. Her
contribution is to pull together the well-designed studies which have used
trauma survivors in order to study traumatic memory. In this week's feature I
will summarize the Bowman's first article entitled "Delayed Memories of Child
Abuse: Part I: An Overview of Research Findings on Forgetting, Remembering,
and Corroborating Trauma."

Her first article goes about attempting to answer several questions. I will
summarize her questions and the conclusions which she draws from the research
literature:

1. Does amnesia exist for traumas other than child abuse?

She concludes that amnesia in response to extreme emotional arousal has been
documented as far back as 1904, when Janet reported amnesia in response to
bereavement. Amnesia has also been reported in combat, for crimes, and for
concentration camp experiences and torture.

2. How often, if at all, do people report forgetting child abuse?

Studies vary in frequency. Between 31 and 64 percent of abuse survivors in
six major studies reported that they forgot "some of the abuse." Numbers
reporting severe amnesia ranged from under 12% to 59%.

3. Are there any factors associated with forgetting child abuse?

The factors positively associated with forgetting abuse include:

Children abused at a younger age were more likely to have forgotten the
abuse.
Persons reporting more than one type of abuse were more likely to report
forgetting the abuse.
Abuse which included threats to safety and intense emotions was more likely
to be forgotten.
Other factors emerged in some studies but not in other studies.

4. Is the return of delayed abuse memories solely due to psychotherapy?

Studies often mention psychotherapy as one factor which can trigger delayed
memories to emerge. Bowman concludes that "the majority of memories are
recovered outside of therapy sessions and occur in response to a variety of
triggers that do not involve intervention by a therapist."

5. Is there corroboration for returned memories of abuse?

Studies report 50-75% of abuse survivors corroborating the facts of their
abuse through an outside source. Corroboration of ritual abuse was lower. One
study of ritual abuse found 3% corroboration in delayed memory patients and
20% corroboration in patients with continuous memories of ritual abuse.
Another study put the numbers between 14% and 37%.

6. Do trauma or emotional arousal affect the availability and accuracy of
memory?

This is a more difficult area to study. Laboratory researchers are limited by
ethical concerns. They cannot ethically traumatize a subject in a way which
duplicates the impact of severe child abuse. Laboratory research on mild
trauma is only partially applicable to abuse survivors.

The discussion in this section of the paper is complex. Some research
suggests that later recall is most impaired for both emotionless events and
events evoking extreme levels of emotions. Violent crimes are remembered in
more detail than non-violent crimes. Some events seem to be burned-into
memory with a "flashbulb effect." Extreme trauma has also been proven to
disturb memory. More will need to be written in this area.

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Re: [CTRL] New Research on Recovered Memories

1999-10-13 Thread Smart News

 -Caveat Lector-

Below please find information on "New Research on Recovered Memories"

Sincerely,  Neil Brick

excerpts from
http://mentalhealth.miningco.com/health/mentalhealth/mentalhealth/library/week
ly/aa040698.htm

In this week's feature I will summarize a new Dutch study.

Albach, Moorman,  Bermond from The Netherlands studied 97 adult victims of
extreme sexual abuse who ranged in age from 18 to 55. 90% of the subjects had
been abused for one year or longer. A control group of 65 women, matched for
age and education, was studied as well. The control group reported on their
memories of "ordinary unpleasant childhood experiences."  The abuse survivors
were broken into two groups.  One group had participated in psychotherapy
while the other group had not.  This clever design allowed the authors to
look carefully at whether psychotherapy had influenced the memory recovery
process.

34% of the abuse survivors who had been in therapy reported an inability to
recall the abuse at some point, while 33% of survivors who had not been in
therapy reported such amnesia.  Only 1% of the control group reported an
inability to recall the unpleasant event. Similar patterns were found on
other questions asked.  The authors noted that Dutch therapists tend to focus
much less on the importance of memory recovery than therapists in some other
countries.

They then studied what events seemed to be responsible for triggering the
later recall of abuse. Subjects reported recovering memories after they
discovered their own daughter had been abused, after another trauma occurred,
and when confronted with specific sensory triggers during a time when they
were "physically and emotionally exhausted." ... They reported that verbal
cues were not as significant as olfactory, sensorimotor, auditory, and visual
cues.

The authors concluded that therapy was not a significant contributor to the
recall of abuse in a majority of their Dutch patients.   They found no
significant differences in amnesia, memory recovery, or other memory
phenomena between the survivors who participated in psychotherapy and those
who did not.   Their study supports earlier studies which have found that
some amount of amnesia and later "recovered memory" often accompanies severe
child abuse.

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==
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and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright
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spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL
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[CTRL] (Fwd) [BRIGADE] INS Mistake: Issues High-tech Visas to 20,000

1999-10-13 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

 -Caveat Lector-

--- Forwarded Message Follows ---
From:   "Linda Muller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Dear Brigade,

"Immigration and Naturalization Service managers notified lawmakers last
week that, because of a computer system miscommunication, they had
exceeded the congressionally imposed cap of 115,000 H-1B visas for the
year ended Sept. 30 by 10,000 to 20,000...A spokesman for Sen. Slade
Gorton, R-Wash., said Gorton hoped the agency's mistake would not be used
to penalize high-technology companies and their workers... The cap was
lifted from 65,000 workers last year...Revocation would be "unfair and
inhumane," said Sen. Phil Gramm, R-Texas, who has introduced legislation
to increase the high-tech visa allotment to 200,000 annually over the next
three years..."You can't cut off that pipeline," said ITAA Vice President
Renee Winsky, citing Labor Department projections that the industry will
need 140,000 new workers a year over the next decade..."  - AP column

That is right Brigade, they want to raise the cap to 200,000 NEW visas
EACH year and some want to remove the cap altogether.

Here's what Pat has to say:

"Who is the American economy for, if not the American people? And which
comes first -- our countrymen or the Global Economy? The H-1B program
should be phased out, which would force Silicon Valley to do what it ought
to have been doing for a decade -- hiring, training and promoting
Americans." -- Pat Buchanan - August 18, 1998

GO PAT GO!!!
Linda



INS mistakenly issues high-tech visas to thousands of foreigners
Wednesday, October 13, 1999

By MICHELLE MITTELSTADT - THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

WASHINGTON -- The federal immigration service mistakenly doled out as many
as 20,000 visas to foreigners with high-tech skills during the just-ended
fiscal year, prompting angry complaints from Congress.

Immigration and Naturalization Service managers notified lawmakers last
week that, because of a computer system miscommunication, they had
exceeded the congressionally imposed cap of 115,000 H-1B visas for the
year ended Sept. 30 by 10,000 to 20,000.

The mistake is the "latest self-inflicted wound by the agency's inept
management," Rep. Lamar Smith, R-Texas, chairman of the House Judiciary
Committee's immigration panel, said yesterday.

Smith is pushing a plan to replace INS with separate service and
immigration enforcement agencies.

INS is contracting with an independent auditor to determine exactly how
many extra visas were issued, agency spokeswoman Maria Cardona said
yesterday. The error occurred when visa approval numbers from the four INS
service centers that process H-1B applications didn't get into the
agency's main computer system in Washington that tracks totals, she said.

"They can blame system errors or the computer. They can blame anything
they want, but ultimately this is an agency that cannot count," Smith
spokesman Allen Kay said.

INS officials declined to discuss options for dealing with the problem.
But agency spokeswoman Elaine Komis said, "We're trying to find a
resolution that first of all is permissible by law and second of all that
will cause the least possible inconvenience to both current and future
H-1B employers and beneficiaries."

Congressional aides said INS managers have floated several ideas,
including reducing this year's allotment by the amount of the 1999
overage or revoking visas issued after the 115,000 cap was reached.

A spokesman for Sen. Slade Gorton, R-Wash., said Gorton hoped the
agency's mistake would not be used to penalize high-technology companies
and their workers. Microsoft Corp. was among the major proponents of
easing visa limitations on high-tech workers. The cap was lifted from
65,000 workers last year.

Revocation would be "unfair and inhumane," said Sen. Phil Gramm, R-Texas,
who has introduced legislation to increase the high-tech visa allotment to
200,000 annually over the next three years.

"There has to be a better way," he said.

The Information Technology Association of America, a Virginia-based
industry group that is pressing to increase the H-1B cap, agreed.

"You can't cut off that pipeline," said ITAA Vice President Renee
Winsky, citing Labor Department projections that the industry will need
140,000 new workers a year over the next decade.

Sen. Spencer Abraham, R-Mich., chairman of the Senate Judiciary
Committee's immigration panel, suggested to INS Commissioner Doris
Meissner that the overage be applied to previous years in which the
entire visa allotment was not used.

Reducing this year's allocation "would cause me grave concerns," Abraham
wrote to Meissner. "I do not believe the INS possesses the statutory
authority to shift visas from one year to the next."

© 1999 The Associated Press.

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1999-10-13 Thread William Shannon





UNDERNEWS
October 13, 1999 
The Progressive Review 
1312 18th St NW (Fifth Floor) 
Washington DC 20036 
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Editor: Sam Smith 
--

WORD

"There have been three totalitarian forces in our lifetime. The 
totalitarianism of fascism, of communism, and now of capitalism." - French 
farmer-activist José Bové

INFO WARS
Mary Berry  Pacifica

JUDITH COBURN, SALON: Maybe the most bizarre episode yet is Berry's 
appearance at Pacifica station WBAI in New York in late August, where she 
dropped by unannounced and asked to meet with staff. She lectured the 
staffers about "diversity," apparently not noticing that most people in the 
room were black, Latino or Asian. "We were amazed how little she knows about 
radio or what programming we do," reported Mimi Rosenberg  Berry then 
flabbergasted her listeners by suggesting the network sell WBAI and/or KPFA 
and buy a string of small, black radio stations in the South. "A kind of 
black NPR," one staffer described it. "Laudable, but to cannibalize Pacifica 
with its own 50-year history and listeners? She should go out and build that 
network on her own and see how hard it is!" But Berry has always seemed 
determined to use Pacifica for her own ends. Her detractors point to a 
statement she made when she took over as chair, in which she said nothing 
about her vision for the future of the progressive network. Instead, she 
vowed not to let anything that happens at KPFA destroy her reputation.  

[Coburn's article is the best we've seen so far on the bizarre and dangerous 
Berry -- TPR]

SALON MAGAZINE http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/10/12/berry/index.html

INFO WARS
The stories PBS 
doesn't want told

SAN FRANCISCO BAY GUARDIAN: During the Persian Gulf War, NBC News' 
then-president Michael Gartner ordered his news director not to run footage 
of civilian carnage in Iraq that disproved U.S. military claims of "surgical 
strikes." Then he promptly fired the reporter who shot it, six-time Emmy 
winner Jon Alpert. Later that year, the New York Times spiked award-winning 
reporter Frances Cerra's exposé of billion-dollar cost overruns at a 
nuclear-power plant and took her off the story under industry pressure. In 
1995 respected Atlanta Journal-Constitution executive editor Bill Kovach 
resigned when the paper's parent company, media conglomerate Cox 
Enterprises, told him to stop reporting on alleged bribery schemes and 
racist lending practices involving Atlanta-based Coca-Cola. These are only a 
few of the stories told in the landmark documentary "Fear and Favor in the 
Newsroom," which will air on local public television stations in coming weeks.

But the film that exposes how corporations have gained a controlling 
influence over many of America's newsrooms almost never got made, because, 
critics say, public TV broadcasters -- including San Francisco's KQED, the 
most-watched public station in the country -- refused to support it for fear 
of offending corporate sponsors. "Our public TV executives' response has 
been appalling, and you can't help but think that the message of the film 
was the reason why," Randy Baker, co-producer and writer of the 90-minute 
doc, told the Bay Guardian. (KQED will finally air the film Oct. 28 at 10
p.m.]

SAN FRANCISCO BAY GUARDIAN: http://www.sfbg.com/News

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Best presidential autobiography ever written. "All the Best" by George Bush 
is a collection of letters the former president wrote over more than 50 
years. -- Political Insider

USDA STILL PUSHING 
TERMINATOR SEED

AGRIBUSINESS EXAMINER: Curiously with Monsanto's decision to abandon the 
commercialization of the Terminator technology the U.S. Department of 
Agriculture is now in the shameful position of supporting and defending a 
genetic technology that the world's second largest seed corporation has 
clearly rejected due to public opposition. 

At a meeting with civil society organizations in June, Under-Secretary of 
Agriculture Richard Rominger told [the Rural Advancement Development Fund] 
that USDA refuses to abandon the patent it co-owns with Delta  Pine Land (a 
Mississippi-based seed company in the process of being acquired by Monsanto) 
because it wants to see the technology widely licensed. 

[Asks Hope Shand of RAFI]: "Why does USDA insist on defending a technology 
that is bad for farmers, food security, and the environment? USDA is 
increasingly marginalized in its support of Terminator, it should 
immediately cease negotiations with Delta  Pine Land, abandon the patent, 
and develop a strict policy prohibiting the use of taxpayer funds for the 
development of genetic seed sterilization." 

RAFI http://www.rafi.org 

JUST POLITICS

A nifty web site asks you 16 questions and then comes up with a presidential 
candidate just for you. Here, for example, are the results it produced for 
your editor, clearly 

[CTRL] Fw: 13 Ways to Protect Your Privacy...

1999-10-13 Thread K

 -Caveat Lector-

From the Sovereign Society.

===
  13 WAYS TO PROTECT WHAT'S LEFT OF YOUR
   PRIVACY AND PROPERTY RIGHTS
===

Can you still obtain virtually complete privacy or asset
protection without leaving your country? Yes, but the effort
may be extremely costly -- not to mention illegal.

In the United States, you would have to:

  *  Sell all US real estate and convert it to cash without
 losing it for "Bank Secrecy Act" or money laundering
 violations -- or having it stolen.

  *  Sell your motor vehicles and convert them to cash,
 again without committing a "privacy crime."

  *  Sell your business(es) and convert the proceeds to cash,
 without authorities questioning you as to your
 "motives."

  *  Close all US bank and securities accounts and convert
 the proceeds to cash, again assuming the same risks.

  *  When your driver's license expires, don't renew it. This
 is illegal if you continue to operate a motor vehicle.

  *  Resign from all organizations that might have your
 name on a list.

  *  Cancel all subscriptions in your real name.

  *  Cancel all your credit card accounts.

  *  Allow all your professional affiliations to lapse.

  *  Move to another state and find somewhere to live with
 all utilities -- including the telephone -- listed in
 another person's name. Pay rent in cash, of course.

  *  Don't register to vote.

  *  If you work, do odd jobs that can be performed without
 identifying yourself. Accept cash only-no checks. If you
 must accept checks, cash them at a check-cashing
 service, not a bank. Go to a different cash-checking
 service each time. It's more expensive this way, but the
 IRS may monitor regular customers of these services to
 see if they file tax returns. In following this procedure,
 you are likely to violate several federal laws.

  *  Use a series of mail receiving services to receive all
 your mail. Pay others to complete the necessary
 paperwork, then give you the keys. This violates the
 written contract at most mail receiving services and
 may also violate state or federal law. Pick up your mail
 late at night when no one else is in the mail receiving
 service that might recognize you.

  *  Assume a new identity using techniques in books such
 as The Paper Trip and The Paper Trip II. Eden Press, P.O.
 Box 8410, Fountain Valley, CA 92728; Tel: (800) 338-8484;
 Fax: (714) 556-8410). Some of these techniques are illegal.

  *  Stop filing income tax returns. This is illegal if you
 have income above the filing threshold.

  *  Use your new identity to obtain a driver's license in
 another state, using a hotel or mail receiving service in
 that state as your address. This is a federal crime if you
 obtained your new identity illegally.

  *  Apply for a passport using your new name. This too is a
 federal felony if you obtained your new identity
 illegally. Be sure to leave the section asking for a Social
 Security number blank. Have the passport mailed to
 your most secure mail receiving service. When you
 receive it, keep it in a safe place, but not in a safety
 deposit box.

These actions will make it very difficult for an investigator or
anyone else to find you. If you are discovered, take your
passport and your cash and leave the country. At the border,
don't declare your cash to Customs. This is a federal crime if
you're carrying more than $10,000.

Are you willing to go to these lengths to achieve virtual
anonymity? Fortunately, unless you're fleeing from gangsters,
terrorists or the government, there's no need to take these
extreme measures. You can still lower your profile to theft,
lawsuits and government bureaucrats by using common-sense,
remarkably simple, inexpensive, and perfectly legal techniques.

Mark Nestmann's report, "97 Ways to Protect What's Left of
Your Privacy and Property," describes 97 strategies you may
pursue. Here are a few of his ideas that you can implement
immediately:

 1.  Disclose your SSN only to companies and agencies that
 are legally obligated to ask for it or to obtain a benefit
 you cannot otherwise obtain. While non-governmental
 use of SSNs for identification purposes is essentially
 unregulated, the only companies that are legally
 obligated to ask for it are banks, brokerages, and
 employers, to report income to the IRS. Anyone who
 pays you more than $600/year as an independent
 contractor must also ask for your SSN. Organizations
 not legally obligated to ask for your SSN, but that
 routinely do so, include insurance companies, credit
 bureaus, and utility companies. You may be denied
 credit, service or employment if you refuse to provide
 your SSN to 

[CTRL] (Fwd) Fw: Paint Suits

1999-10-13 Thread K

 -Caveat Lector-

--- Forwarded message follows ---

Oh brother! First tobacco, then guns, now *paint*.


Goaded by a law firm that reaped hundreds of millions of dollars
from state lawsuits against tobacco companies, Rhode Island is
suing eight paint manufacturers who years ago used lead in their
products.

The South Carolina-based law firm of Ness, Motley, Loadholt,
Richardson  Poole has also approached four states and three
major cities to explore filing similar suits on their behalf.
This suggests the start of a new wave of actions against paint
companies.

   o   The Rhode Island suit seeks to recover public costs of
   providing health care and special education to children
   supposedly harmed by lead poisoning -- as well as
   requiring the industry to strip all lead paint from public
   and private buildings accessible to children in the state.

   o   The law firm is financing Rhode Island's suit in return
   for a 17 percent share of any recovery it wins for the
   state.

   o   The suit alleges that eight companies that either made
   lead paint, or acquired companies that did, conspired to
   promote their products while failing to disclose the
   danger it posed to children.

   o   Yet paint makers stopped using lead in interior paints in
   the 1950s -- while the federal government banned lead in
   paint in 1978.

Lead Industries Association Inc., the industry's trade
association which was also named in the suit, claims that similar
conspiracy charges have been rejected by courts in the past --
most notably in a 1997 decision in Maryland that found the
hazards of lead paint had been widely publicized with warning
labels and industry campaigns to discourage its use inside homes.

Similar suits against paint makers are in the works in Baltimore,
Cleveland, New York and Buffalo, N.Y.

Source: Milo Geyelin, "Former Makers of Lead Paint Are Sued by
Rhode Island for Child Health Costs," Wall Street Journal,"
October 13, 1999.

For text (requires WSJ Interactive subscription)
http://interactive.wsj.com/articles/SB939770266795100483.htm

For more on Product Liability
http://www.ncpa.org/pd/law/tcr/index5g.html



--- End of forwarded message ---

--
Kathleen

"Government governed least is government governed best." --Thomas Jefferson

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[CTRL] Shame on C-SPAN! (fwd)

1999-10-13 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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-- Forwarded message --
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 19:30:19 -0400
From: Carl S. Webber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Shame on C-SPAN!

I just watched the last half hour of the Senate's vote in the
Test Ban Treaty.

All the way through CSPAN kept running the (IMO specious)
arguments for ratifying the Treaty.

At first I thought this was just part of their usual "educate the
public" behavior, and that they would show the key arguments
AGAINST the Treaty.

Not at all. When they finished with the eight or so "reasons"
for, they went ahead and showed them over, and indeed, over
again.

The senators were not watching, so it was not an attempt to
influence them. All it could do would be to give not well
informed viewers a poor opinion of the senators who voted against
the Treaty, and a positive view of those who voted for it.

This is political partisanship, and another black mark in CPSAN's
book.

Best wishes,
Carl W.



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  FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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   The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends
   Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day.
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[CTRL] Waco The Rules of Engagement - Press

1999-10-13 Thread Bard

  Hi Yawl!
Behind in my mail, so don't know if the Notice of this Website update of
10/09/99 ever Posted:

 http://www.waco93.com/press.htm

Bard

"If every person has the right to defend - even by force - his person, his
liberty,
and his property, then it follows that a group of men have the right to
organize
and support a common force to protect these rights constantly."
--- THE LAW, by Frederic Bastiat

 Waco The Rules of Engagement - Press.url


[CTRL] Provable Accusations Against American Public Schools

1999-10-13 Thread Bard
Title: Provable Accusations Against American Public Schools







Provable Accusations against American Public 
Schools 


RETURN TO RIVERPUP.COM 
MAIN | RETURN TO MIND-CONTROL IN SCHOOLS


*If you have kids or are in public 
school, I urge you to read this all the way through. Every bit of it is the 
Truth.* 


Where do you start if you wanting total control of the minds, 
bodies and souls of a country? You start with the 
children. 
How do you perform this systematic brainwashing of the 
children? You first have to start by getting full 
control of the schools. You have to be able to force the use of your materials, 
your methods and your value system. Teachers must be indoctrinated in college 
and enrolled into a strong socialist organization to keep them straight. 

The teachers are convinced that top educators and the 
centralized government know what's best for your children. To handle teachers not indoctrinated, you need to 
punish those who would rebel, first by controlling their funding and then 
by passing laws which force them to use your 
"system". 
Next, you make sure that the parents are happy with what you are 
doing. 
HOW? What do you tell the parents? You announce a revolutionary new approach to 
teaching. You tell the parents that you are going 
to make dramatic improvements. You use positive, flowery words to 
put the proper "spin" on what you are doing. 
You then tell the parents that this approach will help the 
children be more tolerant and understanding of others. The chidren will 
be taught social skills such as conflict resolution, self esteem, etc.. 

What does that REALLY mean? You teach 
the children that people have different values and that no set of values is 
superior, just a different way of looking at things. Christians are no 
better than Buddhists who are no better than Satanic Cults. It's 
all just a "different way of viewing the 
world". 
You know that to control people, you have to 
get them to stop thinking for themselves but to think for the 
collective good. 
How do you do that? You teach 
the children in groups. You teach only at the 
level of the least intelligent. The goal is to "dumb 
down" the children and get them used to working only for the good of 
"the group". 
You stop teaching the traditional subjects in 
a traditional way. You tell parents that you want 
their children to learn a "higher order of thinking". This higher 
order of thinking translates into having the teachers implant 
the "right value system" into 
the children. What you want the students to learn is to focus on their emotions 
and to downplay values and opinions as relative. 
What about the parents and their values? The teachers are taught to watch for signs that the parents are 
resisting or impeding the brainwashing effort. Since you are teaching the 
children "how to think", they can not 
pass until they think the way you have taught them. 
Whenever actual subjects are taught, it must be taught the "politically correct" way. History books must be rewritten to reflect the view of history you want 
to implant into the children. 
You then use the children as 
spies for the State against the parents. You 
develop surveys (and homework assignments) to ask questions concerning the 
parents like "Do your parents own guns?" "Do they drink too much?" "What do they 
think about politics?" "What views do they hold which 
are politically incorrect?" 
You then announce a new health screening program 
which will help guard the children against both physical and mental 
disease. Why? So you can have professionals "examine" 
the children in a way which is degrading and embarrasing. You "screen" 
the children with questions like "Have you ever forced sex on 
someone?" "Do you ever torture animals?" 
"Have you ever shot a gun?" "Have you 
ever started a fire?" All the while you reassure 
the Parents telling them that you must get their permission even to give their 
child an aspirin. Parents assume the schools 
are "overly protective" and that their children's minds and bodies are safe. 

This is the basics of how dictatorships 
brainwash children. Its a good thing it could NEVER happen here. Or could it? Or 
even worse, has it already started? 
CONSIDER THESE FACTS: 

1. The federal government of the united States (that's not a 
typo!) has used force, intimidation, lies, deceit and other methods to get you 
to pay federal income tax. The fact is that 95% of the people who 
pay are not even subject to the tax. (Its all in the Code once you find out how 
to read it and what it means. And it can easily be documented and confirmed.) 

2. So the federal government 
STEALS your money through fraud, deception and threat of 
force. Then, they offer to give the States money for education, no strings 
attached. This amount increases steadily until it is a large part of the 
education budget of the States. Then, they slowly start "attaching strings". 

3. At some point they decide to implement their main 

[CTRL] Mark of the Beast for Newborns

1999-10-13 Thread Bard

 -Caveat Lector-

Correct me if I wrong on this, but is my understanding a new born straight
from the Womb is assigned a SSN.
Why is that?  The babe is too young to work and too young to collect
benefits.

Once the SSN is accepted the babe becomes subject to federal laws as a U.S.
citizen, instead of being a u.S. resident as citizen of the State where
born.
Am I screwed up on this, or WHAT?
lol
I saw a Website somewhere that details the procedure the new Parents should
use to avoid the assignment of the No.

Bard

We don't need a 3rd Party;  we need a 2nd Party!

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[CTRL] Alert on WTO Seattle, from India

1999-10-13 Thread David Crockett Williams

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From: ncas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: NCAS Campaign Alert on WTO  Seattle Round of Trade Negotiations
Date: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 1:03 PM

Dear  Friends:

The trade ministries from 135 countries will meet throughout December
1999 at Seattle for wide-ranging talks related the World Trade
Organisation (WTO). The Seattle Round of Trade Negotiations will affect
the people of the South since the outcome seek to influence most
international economic transactions in the coming years. If the
proposals of the North particularly the USA are adopted the members of
WTO will be obliged to change their national and domestic policies and
laws. The WTO since its inception is busy rewriting the constitutions of

most countries and undermining parliaments and democracy in the interest

of promoting indiscriminate free made. To counter this process building
up peoples resistance vital.

In this context, some of us took the initiative of bringing out a
statement of concern calling the Government of India not to succumb to
the pressures of  the North. As a part of our initiative towards
campaign support, we are sending this statement of concerns, to you to
be widely circulated and to get signatures to be then sent to the
Ministry of Commerce, at the following address:

Ministry of  Commerce
Udyog Bhawan
NEW DELHI  110 011
Phone : 011-3015299 / 3016917
E-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

We would be grateful if you send us  a copy  of the signed memorandum to

NCAS.

Hope you will collaborate in this effort.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

In Solidarity,

John Samuel
NCAS Team.
===

A STATEMENT OF CONCERN:

BEWARE OF THE SNARE AT SEATTLE

The World Trade Organisation (WTO) that seeks to regulate principally
all world trade and to an (increasing) extent all international economic

relations, is poised for a new turn. Trade ministers from 135 countries
will meet through out December 1999 at Seattle, Washington, USA for
wide  ranging talks related to the WTO. The Seattle Round or Millennium
Round of trade negotiations is crucial, particularly for the countries
and peoples of the South the outcome seeks to influence most
international economic transactions in the coming years. If the
proposals of the developed countries, particularly the USA, are adopted
the member countries  of WTO will be obliged to change their national,
domestic policies and laws. Ostensibly designed to create a uniform
global investment and economic climate this measure will mean the
further erosion of economic sovereignty of the development countries,
including India. The proposed agenda of the Seattle Round leaves no room

for doubt that the economics of the developing countries face a new
attack in the new millennium.

The Experience So Far: We the Losers

The WTO with super sovereign judicial power has been a decisive step in
the globalisation of capitalist economy. The experience  of the Indian
people as regards WTO over the past five year is not particularly
pleasant. It had promised to raise standards of living and ensure full
employment, to ensure steady growth in real income and effective demand;

optimal utilisation of world resources; guarantee of a share for the
developing and the least developed countries in international trade.
None of these promises have so far been fulfilled, nor are there any
indications that any progress has been towards these goals. On the
contrary the trend is that the progress towards this goal has been
thwarted by the discriminatory policies followed by several developed
countries to block exports from the developing countries  through
anti-dumping and other related measures.

Despite the ballads sung by the bards of globalisation it is seen that
the imports of India have increased far more than the exports between
1994-95 to 1997-98 and the balance of payments position has worsened.
The ratio of exports to imports has deteriorated. There has been no
increase in the country’s share of world exports; compared to 1980 the
percentage has, in fact, declined. The foreign investment flows (FDIs)
have increased but mainly in the portfolio (shares and stocks) sectors.
The outflows towards fees for technical know-how, royalties and
dividends have also registered  marked increase. The net in-flow of
capital is not spectacular

Agriculture is perhaps the worst sufferer. The only gain has been in the

export of rice. All other commodities have suffered. The link with
global market has, in fact, introduced an unprecedented vulnerability in

Indian agriculture. Farmers chasing the mirage of cash crops and (direct

or indirect) exports have faced ruination; a number of them  committed
suicide last year. The component of imports has increased and with it
dependence on multinational corporations. The genetically modified
‘terminator’ seeds and other similar products have pushed the farmers
into a servitude of the large corporations.

The Millennium 

[CTRL] Caves

1999-10-13 Thread earthman

 -Caveat Lector-

Here you go guys, A list of caves to hide out in in the US...I wonder if you
need to book?

Peter

http://cavern.com/caves.htm

Alabama | Arizona | Arkansas | California | Colorado | Florida | Hawaii |
Idaho | Indiana | Iowa | Kentucky | Minnesota | Missouri | New Hampshire |
New Mexico | New York | Ohio | Oregon | Pennsylvania | Puerto Rico | South
Dakota | Tennessee | Texas | Virginia | West Virginia | Wisconsin | Bermuda
|


We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard
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Bargain Books
http://bn.bfast.com/bfast/click/mid1349732?siteid=10734186bfpage=b

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[CTRL] FW: [freedomfight] Re: femme takeover fulfills Satan's promise toEve

1999-10-13 Thread Bard

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We don't need a 3rd Party;  we need a 2nd Party!

-Original Message-
From: Cliff Hume [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 1999 3:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [freedomfight] Re: femme takeover fulfills Satan's promise
toEve


Bard

We don't need a 3rd Party;  we need a 2nd Party!

Right on, Bard. A third party or any other number of parties is essential
for dividing the votes up so that the CFR controllers always get their man
in office. Building a second party requires identifying and throwing from
office those representatives who do not abide by the terms of the
Constitution. Building that second party can take place by electing
statesmen to either of the two parties.

  Don't be misled by labels

Voting along party lines and not for people is very dangerous to the
Republic; Dr, Larry McDonald, the Congressman from Georgia, was shot down on
flight 007 over Soviet waters. Though a Democrat, Congressman McDonald's
voting record was 100 percent conservative. The powers that be spent
millions of dollars in his riding trying to get rid of him. Judge Clarence
Thomas, an Afro-American conservative, had millions spent on a smear
campaign to keep him out of the Supreme Court. Clinton, a Democrat, has done
everything against the Republic and the Constitution and women, and the
whole left wing in the controlled media and elsewhere, including the women's
movements suffering from his abuse, have rallied and spent multi millions of
dollars to keep him in office.

Ronald Regan was a Republican Governor of California. He was elected on a
platform stating that he was going to cut the debt and straighten out all
kinds of wrongs in government. When he left office, the controlled media
covered his tracks by hiding the fact that he had actually increased the
debt by leaps and bounds. While in office, he pardoned thirteen murderers;
these same murderers went out free and killed twenty-six more people. When
Roosevelt said if anything happens in government, you can bet that it was
planned that way", a person has to begin to wonder exactly who it was that
these people killed. Were they people who could have explained why things
have been done contrary to the rhetoric? Would a socialist lie?

On pages 70 to 77 of Professor Carroll Quigley's, Tragedy and Hope - The
(1348 page) History of the World in Our Time, Quigley explains how the
Republic was changed into a ONE PARTY SYSTEM. Almost anyone today can tell
you that it makes from little to no difference who you vote for, the exact
same kind of legislation is forthcoming - all of which belongs in the
Socialist-Marxist Camp.

It takes a lot of money to run a campaign to be elected to political office
these days and if socialism and communism are movements of 'the downtrodden
masses' while most of these masses are sitting on their asses in the pubs
drinking beer, where are they getting all of the funds from to elect these
people who are destroying the Republic and the freedoms that the Republic
was supposed to grant them? Follow the elephantine tracks of the money
crowd, the Armand Hammers and such, for the answer. Armand Hammer's father
was one of the founding members of the Communist Party, USA.  Jimmy Carter,
a member of the subversive Council on Foreign Relations, was one of the
founding members of the subversive Trilateral Commission, with CFR members
David Rockefeller, and Zbigniew Brzezinski  - author of Between Two Ages,
334 pages of praise for Marxism.

As Zbig puts it on page 72: "That is why Marxism represents a further vital
and creative stage in the maturing of man's universal vision. Marxism is
simultaneously a victory of the external, active man over the inner, passive
man and a victory of reason over belief: it stresses man's capacity to shape
his material destiny - finite and defined as man's only reality - and
postulates the absolute capacity of man to truly understand his reality as a
point of departure for his active endeavors to shape it. To a greater extent
than any previous mode of political thinking, Marxism puts a premium on the
systematic and rigorous examination of material reality and on guides to
action derived from that examination."

The Marxist have a very effective tactic for their program of world
domination under the New World Order. The tactic or technique is to take two
steps forward and if the peasants begin to get upset or disturbed, or
suspicious,  by what appears to be happening to their country, they will
place someone in office who is capable of being used to make it appear that
they are stopping or even reversing a trend. The controlled media easily
accomplishes this goal in that they know that over 75 percent of the voting
public receive almost 100 percent of their information from television.

Since Woodrow Wilson's term in office, only two Presidents, Linden Johnson
and Ronald Reagan, were not members of the Council on Foreign Relations.
Johnson, like 

[CTRL] Hawaii asks DEA, Release Canadian Hemp Seed

1999-10-13 Thread David Crockett Williams

 -Caveat Lector-

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
STATE OF HAWAII
STATE CAPITOL
HONOLULU, HAWAII

Rep. Cynthia Thielen
Assistant Minority Floor Lead

October 6, 1999

Donnie Marshall
Acting Administrator
Drug Enforcement Administration
600-700 Army-Navy Drive
Arlington, Virginia 20229

Dear Acting Administrator Marshall:

Since my, as yet unanswered, September 2, 1999 letter to you objecting
to the Drug Enforcement Administration’s involvement in the recent
seizure of sterilized hemp seed from Kenex, Ltd., a Canadian
Corporation, at U.S. Customs in Detroit, I now have learned that
further action is being taken against Kenex.  I understand that U.S.
Customs, (at your agency’s insistence), is demanding Kenex recall
earlier shipments sent to its U.S. customers or face punitive fines.
I ask you to reverse your action immediately and cease all efforts to
obtain Kenex’ prior shipments.

Unless you are purposefully working to destroy the industrial
hemp-based food market, this demand to Kenex to recall prior hempseed
shipments makes no sense.  For example, I and many others at the
Hawaii State Capitol have already consumed hemp granola bars which
contained Kenex hempseeds.  Obviously, it would be impossible for
Kenex to reclaim those products or others which entered the stream of
commerce and have been used or consumed.

It appears to me that the seizure of hempseeds, recall of prior
shipments and the threat of excessive fines are intended to intimidate
Kenex.  I find this action by federal officials to be unwarranted and
excessive.

Until some common sense can be brought to this matter, I ask you to
reverse your product recall demand to U.S. Customs and to cease any
and all punitive actions against Kenex.

Please respond to me without delay.

Sincerely,
Cynthia H. Thielen.
Assistant Minority Floor Leader

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[CTRL] Fwd: Murder of Mumia Scheduled

1999-10-13 Thread Kris Millegan





Pennsylvania Governor Tom Ridge just signed the death
warrant for African-American activist and journalist
Mumia Abu-Jamal. The state-sponsored murder of Mumia
is scheduled for December 2, 1999. If you can, please
protest on his behalf (http://mumia.org/story1.html).

The key witness whose testimony doomed Mumia admitted
that her testimony was coerced by police. When she
informed the court of this criminal outrage during an
appeal for a new trial, the presiding judge had her
ARRESTED ON THE SPOT on an old bad-check charge!! In
so doing the judge was a willing party to an on-going
effort to intimidate that witness in an effort to
have Mumia killed in a state-sponsored ritual murder.

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/19991013/ts/crime_mumia_1.html

Below is my report on the witness intimidation,
below that is an article written by Mumia on Waco.
Also be sure to read Richard Poe's NewsMax article
on MOVE, "The Waco Before Waco," where the FBI helped
police bomb the MOVE group and then blame it on MOVE:
http://www.newsmax.com/articles/?a=1999/9/22/85323


   http://users.erols.com/igoddard/no-recan.htm

 (free 2 copy (*)-(free 2 forward)


  J U D G E   B A R S   T R U T H

   I N   A B U - J A M A L   A P P E A L


  By Ian Williams Goddard  (11/02/96)

  A key witness, Veronica Jones, whose testimony
  previously doomed MOVE activist Mumia Abu-Jamal
  to a death sentence for the Dec. 9, 1981 death
  of Philadelphia police officer Daniel Faulkner,
  recently recanted her testimony, stating that
  her story was the result of police coercion.[1]
  However,  the judge ruled yesterday that her
  testimony must be barred from being a factor
  of consideration in the ongoing appeal for
  a new trail in Philadelphia. [2]

  Ms. Jones stated during appeals for a new trail
  that right after Faulkner was shot, she told pol-
  ice that she saw two men running from the crime
  scene. Abu-Jamal, a founding member of the Black
  Panther party, could not possibly run because he,
  caught in the cross-fire of the shoot out, was
  shot and seriously wounded. What is more, the
  officer was shot with a .44 caliber gun while
  Abu-Jamal carried a .38 caliber gun. [3]

  Soon after her report to police, Ms. Jones found
  herself in prison charged with armed robbery. Ms.
  Jones says that two officers visited her in her
  prison cell and said that the 10-year prison
  charge would be dropped IF she would falsify her
  testimony to say that she saw nobody running from
  the crime scene, thereby effectively framing po-
  litical activist Abu-Jamal. To ensure her free-
  dom, she agreed to falsify her story.  But 14
  years later, she came clean with the truth.

  Yet now Judge Albert Sabo,  who presided over
  Abu-Jamal's original legal railroading, has just
  ruled that her new testimony must be barred as a
  factor of consideration in the appeal for a new
  trial. The judge said that this time the testimony
  of Veronica has suddenly become ``worthy of little
  or no belief,'' i.e., it's become unreliable. [2]

  This is an attempt of the judge to scrub reality
  out of existence; an attempt to prohibit all that
  threatens to liberate this man from chains and
  from the hangman's noose.

  Clearly, this part of a continuing conspiracy to
  kill a man, an outspoken critic of police brutality,
  that evidence strongly suggests is innocent. As if
  all this was not enough to prove that Abu-Jamal is
  continuing to be railroaded, consider this:

  As Veronica was recanting her previously coerced
  testimony during appeal hearings, before she could
  even walk off the witness stand, she was ARRESTED
  on the spot on an old bad-check charge. Judge Sabo
  had courtroom deputies arrest her, handcuff her,
  and take her into custody right off the stand!! [4]

  If we needed evidence that her previous testimony
  had been coerced,  we surely got it right in the
  courtroom, with the hanging judge orchestrating the
  coercion this time.  Abu-Jamal's attorney, Leonard
  Weinglass, blasted this gross act of intimidation,
  stating: ``It's brutal, it's coercive, it's shock-
  ing. It shouldn't happen...in this country.'' [4]

  
  [1] "Witness Recanting Testimony Against Abu-Jamal
  Appears in Court," Associated Press (09/18/96).
  [2] "Judge Bars Recantation of Witness Who Helped
  Convict Abu-Jamal," Associated Press (11/01/96).
  [3] "The Case for Mumia Abu-Jamal," Rick Finley,
  Collegiate Times (4/17/96), see first URL below.
  [4] "Witness Arrested After Recanting Statement
  Against Abu-Jamal," Associated Press 

[CTRL] FW: NYTimes on WTO/Seattle

1999-10-13 Thread Dave

 -Caveat Lector-

I saw a post here recently forwarded from a rabid fear monger named Mitch
Battros, complete with bullshit "code delta" ... "source" ...  the world
DOES NOT NEED this kind of disinformant bullshit.

My personal prediction is that Mitch Battros (earthchange TV) will once
again be shown to be full of crap, and that something more like what is
discussed below will be unfolding.

"The intention of everyone involved is to have a very peaceful event, or
series of events, that really speak to the issues," he said. "The goal is
not really to disrupt the city per se. Traffic probably is going to get
clogged, it's going to be hard to get downtown. But a lot of that won't
have anything to do with us, it will have to do with security perimeters
set up by the police, the FBI. The potential for real catastrophe is being
greatly exaggerated."



Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart



NYTIMES  October 13, 1999

For Seattle, Triumph and Protest

  By SAM HOWE VERHOVEK

SEATTLE -- When Seattle beat 40 other U.S. cities early this year for the
right to be the host of a meeting of the world's governing trade
organization, local leaders were exultant. Here in what is often called
the most trade-dependent region of the nation, they said the conference
would be a chance to showcase Seattle as a world-class center of high-tech
innovation and a friend to global trade.

All that may still happen when 5,000 delegates and dignitaries from 134
nations -- including President Clinton -- gather to start a new round of
global trade negotiations here in November. Those negotiations will
encompass some of the most politically sensitive issues facing the world's
trading nations, including rules on agriculture and new technologies. But
it is increasingly clear that the largest free-trade meeting ever held in
this country has also become a giant protest magnet for a broad array of
environmental, labor and other groups that say the trade body is a
handmaid to corporate interests whose authority should be sharply
curtailed.

Three hundred groups are vowing to bring 50,000 people or more to downtown
Seattle to picket, demonstrate, hold teach-ins and cause general
disruption during the Nov. 30-Dec. 3 meeting that could turn the city's
streets into a carnival of protest and, perhaps, a morass of gridlock.

It is a sign of how crucial trade issues have become to average people
that a meeting once might have excited only policy experts now has drawn
the attention of a cross-section of America that includes farmers,
fishermen and assembly-line workers.

The W.T.O. has already been entangled in spats over items that include
Caribbean-grown bananas, hormone-fed beef from the United States, gas
refined in Venezuela and Japanese imported liquor.

Even more contentious issues loom: over loss of price supports for
American farmers and over rulings about what kinds of genetically modified
foods countries can offer to consumers on supermarket shelves.

Underlying all the individual issues is a fundamental disagreement about
the proper role of the trade organization. Proponents say it serves a
crucial role in bolstering the world economy by tearing down trade
barriers all over the globe. But opponents believe that the W.T.O. is
using its power as an arbiter in trade disputes to systematically
undermine laws passed by various countries to promote health, food safety,
environmental protection and better working conditions.

It is from those diverse concerns that a vigorous protest movement has
emerged. Just how extensive or disruptive any protests will be is
difficult to gauge, partly because even the groups themselves, more than
300 at latest count, are not exactly of one mind. Some say they have no
plans to be unduly raucous and simply want their perspective to be heard
by the trade negotiators, while others are boasting that their goal is to
bring the city to a standstill with guerrilla-like tactics like scaling
skyscrapers to unfurl huge banners, lying in the street to stop traffic or
chaining themselves to buildings and trees.

But the city is already budgeting $6 million for a major security
operation and Mayor Paul Schell, noting the potential for disruption, has
taken to joking: "I'm hoping for rain, frankly."  While Seattle is indeed
likely to get some rain at that time of year, it may not dampen the
fervency of the protesters.

"I'm in the camp that wants to shut the W.T.O. down," explained John
Sellers, director of the Ruckus Society of Berkeley, Calif., which
recently helped to lead what was called a "Globalize This!"  training
session for protesters at a farm near the Cascade Mountains, outside
Seattle.

"I think this is the largest gathering of unaccountable corporate power
that has ever occurred on this planet, and it should be stopped," said
Sellers, who described his group as "open to work with anyone who is
working for progressive social change on the left side of the spectrum."

[CTRL] FW: [CIA-DRUGS] CIA: Competing for the Hearts Minds of Gen-X

1999-10-13 Thread Dave

 -Caveat Lector-

Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart


-Original Message-
From: Catherine Austin Fitts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 2:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [CIA-DRUGS] CIA: Competing for the Hearts  Minds of Gen-X


From: "Catherine Austin Fitts" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Offline Illumination

Wanted: Gen-X Chumps, I Mean, Spooks

Including a Review of Rodney Stich's Disavow

by Uri Dowbenko

In case you missed it, the CIA is trolling for fresh blood.

Yes, the US Central Intelligence Agency -- that fun-loving, drug-dealing,
government-subverting dinosaur of a bureaucracy -- is running ads for new
recruits.

The ad, in the employment section of the Wall Street Journal (September 7,
1999), features a photo of a smug-looking thirty-something woman with her
chin in
hand, and the preposterous headline -- "Do you have what it takes?
Integrity. Intellect. Common Sense. Patriotism. Courage."

 Sadly there was no mention of the applicant's ability to
actively participate in, or at least look the other way, when confronted
with
 state-sanctioned terrorism,like illegal drug smuggling or
money laundering.

 Sponsored by the CIA Directorate of Operations, Clandestine
Service, the ad says you can't be older than 35 to enter the trainee
program. In
 other words, the ad copy is aimed directly at people who
may be unaware of the Agency's bloody and treacherous history.

 "For the extraordinary individual who wants more than just
a job, this is a unique career, a way of life that will challenge the
deepest resources
 of your intelligence, self-reliance and responsibility,"
the pitch continues.

 "It demands an adventurous spirit, a forceful personality,
superior intellectual ability, toughness of mind, and a high degree of
personal integrity,
 courage and love of country."

Give that copywriter a raise. With outrageous lies like these, Gen-Xers
could sign up for the Gambino family with a clear conscience.

Then there's the close -- "You will need to deal with fast-moving, ambiguous
and unstructured situations that will test your resourcefulness to the
utmost."

"Patriotic" CIA Drug Smuggling

Ambiguous? Ask CIA operative Oliver North, aka John Cathey. He could lie to
Congress with a straight face.

When veteran FBI Special Agent Richard M. Taus uncovered and reported
evidence of CIA drug trafficking by a group called the "K-Team," he was
set-up and
sent to prison on phony charges.

"The K-Team had a front operation with the patriotic sounding name National
Freedom Institute and called its operation the 'Enterprise,' the same that
repeatedly
surfaced in the Iran Contra congressional hearings," writes Rodney Stich in
his ground-breaking book Defrauding America.

Taus discovered that that K-Team was a CIA operation, engaged in drug
trafficking, the looting of savings and loans, and other activities related
to what later
became known as Irangate and Iraqgate.

Another of Stich's sources, Gene "Chip" Tatum confirmed these allegations.
He was the helicopter pilot who actually ferried CIA operatives Oliver
North, Felix
Rodriguez, aka Max Gomez, and William Barr -- CIA's Southern Air Transport
attorney and later US President George Bush's Attorney General -- in Central
America.

Tatum describes one meeting to "determine where over $100 million in drug
money disappeared on the three routes from Panama to Colorado, Ohio and
Arkansas.
This theft was financially draining the operation known as the
'Enterprise'... The first call was made by Fernandez to Oliver North,
informing North that 'the money
loss was occurring on the Panama to Arkansas route, and that means either
Seal, Clinton or Noriega.'"

Imagine -- the late CIA drug transport pilot Barry Seal, former Arkansas
Governor Bill Clinton, as well as Panama's General Noriega were all
suspected of
skimming George Bush's cocaine profits.

"Fifteen minutes later the portable phone rang and Vice President George
Bush was on the line talking to William Barr," writes Stich. "Barr said at
one point,
referring to the missing funds, 'I would propose that no one source would be
bold enough to siphon out that much money, but it is more plausible that
each are
siphoning a portion causing a drastic loss.'"

Tatum said that Barr then dialed another number immediately reaching
Governor Clinton. Barr explained the missing money problem to
Clinton, explaining that over $100 million of the Enterprise monies had
disappeared, and warning that the matter must be resolved or "it could
lead to big problems."

The problems were evidently ironed out. Bill Clinton became president, one
of the CIA's "few groomed men," who was promised his position
on the "short list" for the job, according to Terry Reed and John Cummings,
authors of Compromised.

In another instance, Tatum described "flying 

[CTRL] Peter Barry Chowka, on healthcare

1999-10-13 Thread Dave

 -Caveat Lector-

Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart




http://www.healthy.net/library/articles/naturopathic/art.natru2.pc.htm
Naturopathic Medicine and the New Political Realities
Where Do We Go From Here?
© Peter Chowka 1995
American Association of Naturopathic Physicians



A talk by Peter Barry Chowka presented at the Tenth Annual Convention of the
American Association of Naturopathic Physicians (AANP), Snowmass Village,
Colorado October 13, 1995


We're here to discuss Naturopathic Medicine and the New Political Realities:
Where Do We Go From Here?

I'd like to begin with a joke I heard recently -- or perhaps it's a
truism...
It is said that in the U.S. Congress the jokes there become laws, while the
laws the members of Congress make are a joke.

I wear two hats at this convention: Public Affairs/Media consultant to the
AANP and independent investigative journalist. Today, I'll be wearing the
second hat and speaking for myself. Some of you may disagree with me, but I
hope that by proposing a point of view based on my research, I'll help to
encourage a much-needed dialogue about the role of natural healing in the
future of medicine in this country.

For many years, in articles, lectures, and media appearances, I have
provided people -- many of them seriously ill -- with information about the
context of modern medicine. After years of reporting from the front lines of
alternative medicine, it's my view that choosing an alternative or nontoxic
course of treatment cannot be done properly without first understanding the
context that has made finding clinical alternatives and employing them so
daunting in our times.

To illustrate how quickly events can move and change, six months ago -- when
I drafted the abstract of this presentation for the convention program -- I
wrote: ...problems in the medical care system appear to be simmering on the
back burner. Yet, the American public's interest in natural healing
continues to grow.

I still stand very much by the second half of that statement.

But the first part of the statement -- the back burner part -- has obviously
changed. Six or eight months ago, in the wake of the Republican electoral
victory in November, 1994, other concerns had moved to the forefront, ahead
of health care. Many people in the country appeared to be breathing a sigh
of relief, after the period from late 1993 through 1994, when conventional
medicine and its role in our lives received probably the most intense,
sustained, and hyped focus in history. The Clinton Administration had pushed
an unprecented national health care reform plan which would have completely
transformed and federalized the practice of medicine in this country. As the
media reported in September., 1994, however, the Clintons' health care
reform was finally pronounced dead somewhat after arrival.

As we know now, by looking at the newspaper or by watching television, the
problems with medicine -- specifically, with paying for it -- that were
briefly dormant a half year ago have moved to the front burner once again.
Since just before the Labor Day (1995) congressional recess, the issue of
Medicare -- the federal system of medical welfare and entitlement -- has
become the primary domestic political topic...AND a principal issue in the
opening shots of the 1996 Presidential campaigns.

It's about time that we look closely at Medicare -- and at the whole system
of conventional medicine that remains the biggest single economic aspect of
our society -- costing $1 trillion this year. The federal expenditure on
medical care is exceeded only by the interest on the national debt and
national defense. If change doesn't come, according to independent analysts,
Medicare will run out of money very early in the next decade.

Some of you may have seen coverage on TV newscasts last September 20 from
the corridors of Congress where members shouted at each other about the
Republicans' plans to reform Medicare, and the disagreement seemed like it
might actually come to blows. To me that's a graphic image of the quickening
breakdown of the orthodox medical edifice.

But there's an even starker image that's emerged recently -- something new
and disturbing that's a part of the evolution of this story, taking place in
Southern California. Los Angeles County California, which is the second or
first in the nation depending on what criteria you use, has been wrestling
with a financial situation that is increasingly in critical condition, to
reach for a medical metaphor. Largely contributing to that state is the
out-of-control costs of the county's public medical care, in clinics and
county hospitals. Thousands of people have been employed to deliver
conventional medicine to the poor and indigent, at a cost of many billions
of dollars.

The house of 

[CTRL] FBI cameras encircled compound, files show (fwd)

1999-10-13 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

 -Caveat Lector-

From:

http://www.dallasnews.com/specials/waco/1014waco1cameras.htm

FBI cameras encircled compound, files show
Siege critics outraged by absence of tapes

By Lee Hancock and David Jackson / The Dallas Morning News

10/14/99

© 1999, The Dallas Morning News

The Branch Davidian compound was ringed with FBI closed-circuit
cameras and secret government sensing devices during the entire
1993 standoff, and the cameras were in use throughout April 19,
the day federal agents launched a tank and tear-gas assault,
government documents show.

But despite written statements from FBI agents and technicians
that recordings were made, no videotape from the surveillance
cameras has ever been made public by the federal government.
Critics of the government's actions in Waco say their efforts to
obtain such videos have been blocked for years by the FBI and the
Department of Justice.

Congressional investigators who recently reopened investigations
of the Waco tragedy said Wednesday that they cannot comment on
how much information may have been disclosed to Congress about
the FBI's use of closed-circuit cameras at Waco because the
matter involves government secrets.

"Until that information is declassified, we cannot discuss it,"
said Mark Corallo, spokesman for the House Government reform
committee.

An FBI spokesman said he would need to look into the matter
further before commenting. A Justice Department spokesman did not
return calls Wednesday night.

Lawyers for surviving sect members who have filed a massive
wrongful-death lawsuit against the federal government say they
are outraged because they have been told repeatedly by government
lawyers that the only FBI cameras in use on April 19 were
infrared cameras deployed in airplanes high above the sect's
compound.

"We have asked for every possible form of recording known to man
that could have been utilized at Mount Carmel," said the lead
lawyer for the group, Michael Caddell of Houston. "We have been
told that the only thing that exists are the [infrared] tapes and
the surveillance tapes from FBI bugs inside the compound."

But formal written statements, known as FBI 302s, obtained by The
Dallas Morning News show that at least five FBI agents were sent
to Waco to maintain closed-circuit cameras.

"CCTV [closed-circuit TV] monitoring sites . . . were all around
the compound," one FBI technical expert stated in a June 1993
interview detailed in a three-page FBI 302. "This enabled
observers to see everything that was going on at the compound
without showing themselves."

One agent reported watching from the closed-circuit TV system as
FBI tanks began firing tear gas into the compound on April 19,
the documents state. A supervisor from the FBI's Quantico, Va.,
training academy said that the FBI's cameras were also running as
the compound caught fire with sect leader David Koresh and more
than 80 followers inside, according to a second FBI 302.

The supervisor's June 1993 statement said that recordings were
routinely made from the closed-circuit cameras that ringed the
compund to help document FBI actions during the 51-day standoff.

Mr. Caddell said he believes that FBI officials may have withheld
information about the cameras because of the images that they
captured on April 19. He noted that references to the
closed-circuit television cameras were blacked out on the formal
statements or FBI 302s that the Justice Department has so far
disclosed in the civil wrongful-death lawsuit.

Two retired Defense Department experts hired by Mr. Caddell's law
firm and a third expert retained by congressional investigators
have said that the FBI's infrared airborne videocameras recorded
thermal flashes from the compound and from government positions
on April 19 that could only have come from gunfire.

FBI officials have insisted that FBI agents did not fire a single
shot that day or at any other time during the 51-day siege. The
compound fire erupted six hours into the FBI's tank and tear-gas
assault, and government investigators ruled that it was
deliberately set by the Branch Davidians.

Government officials have said the repeated bursts of white
flashes recorded on the infrared were caused by sunlight
reflecting on mud puddles or shiny debris around the compound.

"We remain confident that it was not gunfire," FBI spokesman John
Collingwood said Wednesday.

But outside experts, including a retired satellite imagry analyst
who spent months studying the Waco infrared tape, said the
rhythmic flashes could not have been caused by anything found in
nature.

Recently released copies of the FBI's infrared tapes show that
many of the flashes emanating from the Branch Davidian compound
and all of the flashes that come from areas near FBI tanks and
other government positions occur on the back side of the
compound. That rear area was not visible to any of the commercial
network television cameras that captured images of the tear-gas
assault from media observation posts 

[CTRL] FW: Why Should Taxpayers Insure Bank of New York or provide FDIC Insurance Credit Backstopping for $7MM in Annual Compensation for Gross Negligence or Worse?

1999-10-13 Thread Dave

 -Caveat Lector-

forwarded...


Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart


 -Original Message-
From: Catherine Austin Fitts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 6:06 PM
Subject: Why Should Taxpayers Insure Bank of New York or provide FDIC
Insurance Credit Backstopping for $7MM in Annual Compensation for Gross
Negligence or Worse?


For those of you who are not making $7 million a year in salary and  bonus,
but enjoy your taxpayer supported federal credit support used to support
such annual compensation for people who do money laundering, you may want an
easy way to e-mail congress and say NO MORE. We want the Bank of New York
Chairman to give his bonuses back. Now! Remember, when this heads south we
could end up with another SL scandal expense that you and I will have to
pay. We paid last time around. Billions. That does not even include the
national security problems we have when the Russians decide to team up with
the Chinese and take revenge for what we have done.

To make it simple to send an e-mail or letter, Solari has arranged to
deliver the September Issue of From the Wilderness to each member of the
Senate and House. Over 500 packages went to the Congressional mail rooms
today and the individually addressed and signed letter and Mike's wonderful
article on the Bank of New York situation should be in their office by
Monday am.

Your representatives e-mail should be posted on the house and senate
websites.

Hope this is useful!

Catherine Austin Fitts
Solari

Attached: Copy of letter is below (feel free to plagarize any useful
pieces)=
=

October 13, 1999
The Honorable Fred Thompson
523 Dirkson Senate Building
Washington, DC 20510
Is America’s financial system so addicted to cocaine and organized crime
capital that traditional methods of regulation and enforcement can do
nothing? Just consider the Bank of New York money laundering operations:
Since 1995, the Bank of New York is suspected of laundering as much as
$10-12 billion worth of Russian "organized crime" and capital flight money.
The Bank of New York has admitted to investigators that, in addition to
profiting from substantial increases in foreign deposits, it has charged as
much as $250 million a month in "fees" for these transactions.
Between 1994 and 1998, Bank of New York Chairman Thomas Renyi’s compensation
rose from $1.23 million to $7.3 million. Other senior management received
large increases, too.
Recently, Congressman Leach said that the amount of money looted out of
Russia and laundered through US Banks could top $100 billion. Where did this
money go? On September 1, Congressman Leach said, "I have no doubt that some
of this money ended up in the stock market." Thinking through the
relationship of organized crime capital and the stock market, consider
another recent event.
In June, Richard Grasso, Chairman of the New York Stock Exchange, traveled
to Colombia to visit with a senior commander of FARC’s insurgency forces to
encourage them to circulate cocaine profits back into the US stock market.
Associated Press reported the event as follows: ``We are very aggressive in
trying to pursue international markets and opportunities,'' NYSE chairman
Richard Grasso explained in an interview Saturday night at his Bogota hotel.
' He said he also invited Reyes (FARC) to visit Wall Street. ``I extended to
the commandant the opportunity to walk the floor of the exchange with me…''
Grasso said. Getting FARC leaders to Wall Street could be difficult, though.
The 35-year-old guerrilla group is on the U.S. State Department' list of
international terrorist groups; its chief revenue sources are ransom
kidnappings and the ``taxing'' of illegal cocaine and heroin production.
Well, why does Solari care about the American financial system recovering
from it’s drug capital addiction? We are an investment advisor created to
invest equity capital in American communities. Our efforts at financing
neighborhood stock corporations, real estate investment trusts, community
databanks and microenterprise networks have been a financial flop. Why?
Because the Solari Investment Model does not produce the high yield equity
returns possible - when organized crime is the dominant financial model. The
litigation and regulatory expenses of this model shift are too great and the
physical harassment by competitors who prefer government subsidy and control
to private markets increases personal risk. This is the reality that is
inspiring concerns about campaign fundraising and federal disclosure policy:
Approximately 80% of presidential campaign fundraising revenues comes from
the four states with the largest market share of drugs imports, money
laundering and investment of laundered profits;
We believe development through HUD is related to CIA supported drug dealing.
HUD manipulation of disclosure 

[CTRL] COERCION: Why We Listen to What They Say

1999-10-13 Thread Dave

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Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart

 From: Bob http://www.edge.org/
http://www.rushkoff.com/
http://www.rushkoff.com/coercion.html
COERCION:
Why We Listen to What "They" Say
Riverhead Books, September 1999
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This is the book everyone's been asking for: a no-holds-barred
deconstruction of the current state of the coercive arts. I've
covered everything from the corporatization of sports spectacles
and the death of the "wave" to the commercialization of the
Internet and the danger of "network externalities."
I've researched and exposed the coercive tactics of car dealers,
CIA interrogators, public relations specialists, advertisers,
shopping mall designers, cult leaders, pyramid-schemers, and
even Muzak technicians. I've mined for the specific techniques
common to them all, and looked at the underlying social
functioning that they exploit.
Moreover, I've analyzed the "coercive arms race" in which we've all
become participants -- both as victims of coercive tactics in use
all around us, and, often, as unwitting practitioners. Finally, as
someone who has been hired, on occasion, to develop marketing
campaigns for Fortune 500 companies, my book amounts to
something of a memoir and expose of the techniques I've
witnessed, or even been a party to.
I'll put a sample chapter up here shortly.
The Back Cover Quotes:
An essential text for inhabitants of the media sphere. Rushkoff
makes visible the ways our minds are not entirely our own.
---Howard Rheingold, author of Virtual Reality and Virtual
Communities
Read this book, and nobody gets hurt!
---Bob Kerry, Senator of Nebraska
Coercion compells. It documents the new media-war in which we
are not merely targets, but also unwitting accomplices in the
battle for a share of our minds, our pocketbooks, and even our
souls. Read this book, and discover who is manipulating you.
---Paul Saffo, Director, Institute For The Future
"Coercion" spotlights the manipulative sides of commerce today,
with a sobering look at its power in the Internet era. A must-read
for anyone wanting an antidote to techno-utopianism."
---Mitchell Kapor, Founder, Lotus Development Corporation
Bravo, Douglas Rushkoff. This book is not only an engrossing
read, but more importantly, it's a great gift to consumers
everywhere. I didn't realize how vulnerable I was.
-- David Shenk, author, Data Smog, The End of Patience
"With immense force and inimitable style, Douglas Rushkoff
takes us on an engaging, frightening, and oddly exhilarating
journey into the board rooms where compliance professionals
hone their skills--as well as the shopping malls, sports arenas,
TV commercials, and web sites in which they are implemented.
*Coercion* is destined to be remembered as a watershed event
 in the battle between the marketing industry and the public it
means to manipulate."
 --David S. Bennahum, contributing editor, Wired
"With subversive clarity, Rushkoff exposes the secret war being
waged for the hearts, minds, and dollars of Americans by the
dark lords of government and commerce. The truth is out there,
but Coercion brings it home."
--Walter Kirn, author of She Needed Me and Thumbsucker


"Flap" copy for Coercion
They say that you're using only ten percent of your brain. They say
the corner office is a position of power. They say you can earn
thousands of dollars a week in your spare time. They say that
knowing your audience is more important than whatever it is
you're selling.
Who, exactly, are "they"? And why do we listen to them?
Douglas Rushkoff argues that we each have our own "theys" --
bosses, pundits, authorities, both real and imaginary--whom we
allow to shape our lives and manage our futures. Like parents,
they can make us feel safe. They do our thinking for us. We don't
have to worry about our next move -- it has already been decided
on our behalf, and in our best interests. Or so we hope.
Unfortunately, not everyone to whom we surrender this control
has our interests at heart. What's more, Rushkoff says, as much
as we try to resist them, they are always finding new and
improved ways to manipulate us. Whether it's a floor plan at a
shopping mall designed to make us lose our bearings, a
television ad that anticipates our reaction to advertising, or a tiny
spy program planted on our computers by an Internet merchant,
the world has become a battlefield of subtle persuasion. As soon
as we think we've become familiar with their methods, these
influence professionals work to move us into strange and
unfamiliar territory--leading us like prey into a trap. We are caught
in a kind of arms race, and with the rise of automated marketing
in the last decade, the race has spun out of control.
A veteran of the media wars, Douglas Rushkoff is in a unique
position to guide us through these societal hazards. For years a
champion of the new media 

[CTRL] [Fwd: Danite Irish]

1999-10-13 Thread Nicola Molloy

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 Original Message 
Subject: Danite Irish
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 07:51:32 +0200
From: yair davidi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In ancient times the israelite Tribe of Dan settled on the southeast
coast
of Israel, in the northern Galilee, and in southeast Turkey where they
had
their own independent kingdom. They were neighbored in southeast
Turkey by a colony from Judah known as "Yadi."
At one stage the Danites conquered much of present-day Turkey and parts
of
ancient Greece. They influenced the traditions and culture of those
regions
but did
not settle there in great numbers.
Some Danites settled in Ireland where they were known as Tuatha de
Danaan or
"Tribe of Dana." They also settled in Celtic Britain and in Welsh
tradition
are known as the people of Don.
Danites were also in Scythia and from Scythia they moved to Denmark
and many Danes are descended from Dan.


The following post is of interest. On the one hand I do not agree with
all
of it,
on the other it has points that suplement what I wrote concerning
Dan and the Dananu (of southeast Turkey in ancient times) in my book
"Lost Israelite Identity."

I have a personal difficulty in accepting the Israelite origin of the
Spartans.
Something does not mesh.
But I may be wrong.

English historians tended to identify with the Athenians, German
historians
favored Sparta.
Relatively speaking Athens was democratic and open minded, Sparta
was military-minded, regimented, disciplined,
deliberately oppressive to its subject population,
and glorified cruel harshness. They were also brave and militarily
proficient.

From: "Arrano Beltza" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Here may be something of interest:

The Danites of Bashan and Ir Shemesh (Mesopotamian Shamash/Canaanite Baal,
sun god) were seafarers (Judges 5: 17) closely allied with
Teukroi/Greeks (Javan, Ezekiel 27: 19). Dannanni was also Hebrew for Dan.
They were a Sea People, recognizably the Denyen/Danuna/Danaja and
Danaoi/Danaans of Greece, having leapt from Bashan as a lion's whelp
(Deuteronomy 33: 22) to the Aegean and Mediterranean isles. Adana, Dankuwa,
Kue/Qawe (1), and Ura (2) were earlier settlements of theirs in Anatolia
(Cilician region). Before the 6th century BC, in the aftermath of extensive
journeys, they took possession of Ireland (Eriu/Eire, the Danite Ir and
Ura), appearing as the Tuatha de Danann. Tribal members were the Kauki
(Qawe) and the Ui Neill. Don and Danu were Irish deities. Hebraic 'dan' and
Gaelic 'dun' have a similar definition: 'to judge'. The Danuna worshiped
Baal, who was Bel/Belinus to the Irish Celts. A ruler of theirs, Azitawadda,
is recorded as claiming a bond to the House of Mopsos in an unusually long
inscription dug from Turkish Karatepe in 1943 by an expedition of the
University of Istanbul (3). The following information is in Trude and Moshe
Dothan's "People of the Sea", pages 215-216-"As for the Danuna, there lies a
tale of great fascination. It relates to the story of Samson and Delilah,
the inspiration for so much great art (and a number of banal cinema
spectacles). In 1956, Professor Yigael Yadin published an article in which
he tried to assess Samson, not only in light of the Biblical narrative, but
in light of Greek legend and archaeological evidence as well. This was just
at the time we were working together at the excavations at Hazor and,
needless to say, the subject intrigued us all. In Hebrew tradition, Samson
was a revered judge, although in fact he was a fun-loving frolicker with the
girls next door and loved to plague the boys with riddles...we noted that
the legend of Samson and Delilah closely resembled the story of the Megaran
king Nisus, whose power-giving lock of red hair was shorn by his deceitful
daughter Scylla, when she betrayed him to King Minos of Crete. There is
another myth of relevance to Samson, the myth of the riddle-loving
Mopsos...noted for having defeated the Greek sage Calchas in a contest of
riddles. He was also known as a traveler for whom numerous cities and cult
places were named...The last version of his biography was preserved by the
fifth-century B.C. Lydian historian Xanthus. Xanthus placed Mopsos's
greatest feat at the Philistine city of Ashkelon, where Mopsos cast the
local goddess and her son into the pond of the city, thereby destroying the
power of the local cult...In his article Yadin attempted to explain Samson's
unique attributes. Samson he noted, was different from the other Hebrew
judges in a number of ways. For one, his raids and rampages against the
Philistines were not meant to defend either his own tribe...or the Israelite
confederacy: they were aimed solely at avenging personal insults and
injuries...No other Hebrew judge, Yadin went on, was remembered for his
physical prowess...as were the Greek heroes. Samson's spiritual
strength...was of a completely different nature: he delighted in posing
riddles. In this respect he resembled Mopsos. But there were other
parallels. His