Re: [CTRL] OT: [THIS is SO COOL! --MS] TOTALLY FREE UNLIMITED INTERNETACCESS/E-MAIL (with NO BANNERS and 24/7 TOLL FREE, NO-WAIT TECH SUPPORT)
-Caveat Lector- At 08:54 AM 11-7-1999 -0500, you wrote: What about the company, is it reputable? Been around a long time? What would happen if it suddenly went bankrupt? I know there is a risk involve, just trying to minimize it. Is this ISP company a NSA/Echelon front ? Or a UN/NATO/Interpol operation ? A Russian/Chinese mafia 'commercial' invasion ? Or just another Bill Gates/ Microsoft Monopoly plot ? . DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Doomsday Cult Alerts.... What is the Government Really ...
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-11-07 10:41:14 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Talmud? I dont like. The Talmud have many things bad. According to the Talmud, a Jubilee Year--which occurs in a multiple of 7 (7X7=Jubilee) indicates a year in which all debts are forgiven and all property reverts to its original owner(s). Okay, let's cut out the middleman. The Jubilee is a practice mentioned in the Bible. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links - Satan
-Caveat Lector- **The lyrics of "A Space Oddity," for example, could be interpreted metaphorically as Bowie's experience of what's called in Crowleyite magick "the crossing of the Abyss." I'm sure they could. Equally the lyrics to "A Space Oddity" can be no more than a song about a man called Major Tom stuck up in space. And thus representing David Bowie's attempt to express how he imagines the experience of space travel might be like through a song. Very profound either way methinks... BD DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Micrsoft: A Predatory Monopoly--Wall Street Journal (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- November 8, 1999 A Predatory Monopoly By Robert H. Bork, a former federal judge and a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute. He has represented Netscape Corp. and currently is a consultant for ProComp, the Project to Promote Competition and Innovation in the Digital Age. The first leg of the Microsoft antitrust marathon is over, and Microsoft is so far behind as to be barely visible. Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson has made voluminous findings of fact vindicating the government's case. Given the trial record, he could hardly have done otherwise. He concluded that Microsoft used illegal business tactics to destroy threats to its monopoly in personal-computer operating systems. The determination that as a matter of law this amounts to a Sherman Act violation, which will come in the next stage, seems a foregone conclusion, and the case is so strong that any settlement will probably require Microsoft's capitulation to any terms the government may demand. The company's best hope in the relief phase probably lies with the judge, cold comfort though that may be. On appeal, Microsoft's lawyers face a formidable task, since a trial court's findings of fact are not overturned unless they are clearly erroneous; these seem clearly correct. Microsoft will undoubtedly rely heavily on the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals' prior ruling concerning the 1994 consent decree between the parties. The appellate panel in that case reversed the trial judge's grant of a preliminary injunction prohibiting Microsoft from incorporating its browser, Internet Explorer, into its Windows operating system. Though the decision was based entirely on procedural grounds, two of the three appellate judges took the occasion to dilate upon the substantive issue that was not before them. But these judicial asides are clearly not binding, and even if they were they would be far from determinative. The majority opinion said that the court should not "embark on product design assessment. In antitrust law . . ., the courts have recognized the limits of their institutional competence and have on that ground rejected theories of 'technological tying.' " That's much too strong, for if the courts declare themselves incompetent to judge technological issues, they will create an antitrust immunity for high-tech predators. Whatever the difficulties involved, and however carefully such issues should be approached, an immunity for illegal behavior is hardly a satisfactory solution. The appeals court majority recognized that problem, saying, "The factual conclusion [about joining the operating system and the browser] is, of course, subject to reexamination on a more complete record," and, "Manufacturers can stick products together . . . without the link serving any purpose but an anti-competitive one. The concept of integration should exclude a case where the manufacturer has done nothing more than to metaphorically 'bolt' two products together." Judge Jackson's findings are that Microsoft has done precisely that, "bolting" products together not for purposes of efficiency but entirely to destroy competition. This question of pro-consumer efficiency versus anticonsumer predation is the pivot on which the case turns. I have written in the past that tie-in law is mistaken and attacks a nonexistent problem to the detriment of consumers. That is true of the tie-ins I was then discussing. When two products are complementary, tying one to the other does no harm and often helps the consumer. If General Motors had a monopoly on automobiles and required purchasers to take the cars with GM's tires, there would be no consumer harm. The purchaser is buying transportation, and the full monopoly price for that can be extracted in the price of the car. If GM tried to charge a second monopoly price for the tires, it would be demanding two monopoly returns where only one was available
Re: [CTRL] Hoagland Skeptic News - Sunday #1
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-11-07 20:19:51 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: yet for an alleged PhD, Hoagland That explains it. PhD stands for Piled Higher and Deeper. Never trust anyone who spends more on his hairdo than you earn in a week. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Chinese deploy 'threatening' new missile (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Chinese deploy 'threatening' new missile Beijing 'fooled Clinton Gore,' says expert By Charles Smith © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com In an apparent disinformation campaign, China fooled the Clinton administration into believing one of its nuclear missiles was a "failure," when actually, in the words of one congressional defense analyst, "it is the most threatening missile deployed since the Cold War." In 1992, Hua Di, a former Chinese missile scientist who defected to the U.S, told the U.S. government the new "DONG FENG" (East Wind) DF-25 -- a mobile two-stage missile capable of hurling a conventional 4,000-pound warhead over 1,000 miles -- was too expensive to be deployed. Yet in August 1999, Clinton officials were shocked by Chinese Communist press announcements declaring the DF-25 to be fully operational and tipped with multiple nuclear warheads, states William Triplett, co-author of "Red Dragon Rising." Triplett's newly published book is rocking Capitol Hill and has put the White House on the defensive, trying to explain its acceptance of the Chinese defector and his disinformation. Communist "defector" Hua Di studied missiles in Russia and worked in China's missile program for 24 years. In 1989, Hua left China after the Tiananmen Square crackdown on student democracy demonstrators, and went to work as a researcher at Stanford University's Center for International Security and Arms Control with Dr. John Lewis and Dr. William Perry. In 1992, Hua and Lewis published "China's Ballistic Missile Program," in which Hua claimed a newly developed missile, the DF-25, was not a success. "The Chinese fooled Clinton into believing it would not be deployed," said Triplett in an exclusive WorldNetDaily interview. "The DF-25 is called the 'Japan' missile. It can cover all of the Japanese islands, the Spratleys and the sea entry routes." According to Triplett, the DF-25 "improved" version can drop its two-ton warhead within feet of its intended target. Defense sources inside and outside of Capitol Hill confirmed Triplett's stunning news. One source went further, and directly accused a major U.S. defense contractor of deliberately passing to China sensitive missile technology that is now incorporated in the DF-25. "This missile is purely offensive," stated Robert Fisher, a defense analyst for Rep. Chris Cox, R-Ca. "It is the most threatening missile deployed since the Cold War. It is intended to start a war." According to Fisher, U.S. guidance technology acquired by China is so accurate that the DF-25 can select a "window" on any target building and strike it from over 1,000 miles away. "The DF-25 most likely uses both U.S. GPS (satellite navigation) and radar technology for its accuracy. However, it is powered by American military rocket motor technology given to the Chinese Army by Lockheed Martin," stated Fisher. "Chinese missiles are now more accurate, thanks to the transfer of Lockheed Martin solid fuel technology," added Fisher. Fisher also noted that missile documents written by Chinese defector Hua Di were "gospel" to Clinton administration officials. "They frequently quote Hua's work," he stated firmly. Fisher is not the first to accuse Lockheed of passing advanced technology to China during the Clinton administration. According to Henry Sokolski, executive director of the Nonproliferation Policy Education Center, in 1995 Lockheed Martin "completed coupled load analysis on kick motors" for the Chinese AsiaSat satellite space program. In 1998, Sokolski wrote an analysis of
[CTRL] Bush and Gorby, Together in Berlin
-Caveat Lector- Bush, Gorbachev Return to Berlin By COLLEEN BARRY .c The Associated Press BERLIN (AP) - Germans are paying homage to former President Bush and former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev for their roles a decade ago in the demise of the Cold War's most potent symbol, the Berlin Wall. Together with former German Chancellor Helmut Kohl, Bush and Gorbachev orchestrated Germany's unification and the end of the East-West confrontation. The three former world leaders planned to reunite today for an unusual reminiscence of Cold War giants. Berlin also was set to bestow honorary citizenship today on Bush, the only major Western leader who was enthusiastic about German unity. Gorbachev was awarded Germany's highest federal order of merit Sunday night in recognition of his reform policies, which forced East Germany to open the Wall, brought down communism and ended the Cold War. ``If we granted the Soviet Union and other Central and East European countries the right to self-determination, we certainly couldn't withhold that right from the Germans,'' Gorbachev said at the brief ceremony at President Johannes Rau's residence. Kohl, Gorbachev and Bush were to reflect on the events in a roundtable discussion later in the day. All three discussed their perspectives Sunday in the weekly newspaper Welt am Sonntag. Bush recalled how he and Kohl each sought to convince Gorbachev that a united Germany would pose no threat to the Soviet Union, ``rather that it would be a stabilizing factor'' in the new Europe. Gorbachev called German reunification ``a reaction to the will of the people.'' Still, he said, it was only possible ``because the leading statesmen from East and West succeeded to reach agreement on a disarmament treaty and because we were in a position to end the Cold War.'' ``Now, 10 years after we see the world does not appear as we had hoped. Europe is no longer divided, at least not in the old sense of the world, but one cannot call it united by any means,'' Gorbachev wrote. Germans, contemplating a decade of life together in one country, couldn't agree more. There's much evidence of mental barriers, with easterners resenting western arrogance and westerners fed up with huge subsidies to the east. While Germans are looking inward at their problems, some of their neighbors - especially France - are still coming to grips with a united Germany now governed from Berlin and by a generation that lacks Kohl's historical perspective. Kohl, who was voted out of office last year, shared his concern with Welt am Sonntag that the new government may be less focused on traditional ties with France and other European partners. Even so, he said, Europe is on a firm path to tighter integration that started with the end of the Cold War. ``At the end of this century, even with its bitter phases, we are entering the 21st century with the certainty that for us Germans the next century will be one of peace and freedom,'' he said. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Y1K
-Caveat Lector- Turn of Y1K Stirred Pilgrimage By DINA KRAFT .c The Associated Press JERUSALEM (AP) - The sign of the cross emblazoned on their robes, weary pilgrims slowly wound their way by foot up the rocky path to Jerusalem - some seeking salvation and others hoping to witness the Second Coming of Christ. Those tenacious enough to make the long journey from Europe to the holy city around the year 1000 found a small, dusty Muslim-ruled backwater with low buildings, water cisterns and wide streets. The city's holy sites, most notably the Church of the Holy Sepulcher where tradition says Jesus was crucified and buried, fired the imagination of European Christendom. ``From all over the world, an innumerable crowd began to flock to the Sepulcher of the Savior in Jerusalem, in greater numbers than anyone thought possible,'' French historian Radulfus Glaber wrote in 1044. The milestone date 1000 lacked the hype of its media-slick successor 2000, but historians say it also generated apocalyptic fears and hopes for redemption. Some scholars say Europe was engulfed in great fear that the ``Last Judgment'' was at hand, sending people into a tailspin of panic so severe that even natural occurrences like a thunderstorm or eclipse were thought to portend the end of the world. ``I think that unquestionably big things were expected to happen,'' said Richard Landes, who heads the Center for Millennium Studies at Boston University. In some parts of Europe, the millennial mood inspired social change. In France, a grassroots movement that embraced the more upbeat view of the millennium led to the emergence of peace councils across the French countryside. War-weary peasants would gather in the fields raising their palms skyward chanting, ``Peace, Peace.'' Cheering crowds of commoners forced local aristocrats to swear they would not attack unarmed people. ``This was a boon to economic activity because now you could travel on the road without being beaten up,'' Landes said. The year 1000 also brought an emotional surge of enthusiasm for Christianity, making the continent truly Christian for the first time. For most people the turn of the first millennium was probably a time like any other, said British historian Norman Cohen. Only monks and priests were literate in those days, he said, and uneducated peasants probably would not have understood a calendar. Furthermore, the church would not have encouraged beliefs that the end of the world was near. Peasants who believe the ``Last Judgment'' is at hand don't necessarily plant crops, church leaders would have reasoned, according to Cohen. Believers made the arduous journey to Jerusalem, traveling by sea or overland in well-guarded caravans. Some rode on the backs of mules or camels. The wealthy noblemen came on horseback. The path could be dangerous, with nomad bandits hiding under the cover of boulders and caves. It was strewn with bodies of unlucky pilgrims who never got to reach their destination. ``Some may perhaps wonder that the bodies of Christians should lie there unburied,'' the English pilgrim Seawolf wrote in 1102. ``But who would be so foolish as to leave his party, and as it were alone, dig a grave for his companion? If he did so, he would be making ready a grave for himself rather than for his companion. Israeli archaeologist Dan Bahat said pilgrims found lodging at one of two Christian hostels located near the Holy Sepulcher. Tended to by Italian monks, the poor slept on the floor and ate food paid for by charity. The wealthy had wooden beds and paid for their own meals. The Christian visitors were viewed as welcome guests by their Fatimid Muslim hosts through most of their 130-year rule in Palestine. The pilgrims were considered an economic asset to the city. The reign of Caliph al-Hakim from 996 to 1020 marked a departure from the Fatimid policy of tolerance. Enraged by the influx of ``infidels,'' the Caliph, from his throne in Egypt, ordered in 1010 the destruction of the focus of pilgrimage - the Holy Sepulcher. Outrage in the West over news of the razing of a sacred Christian site and the mistreatment of pilgrims contributed in part to the launching of the Crusades at the end of the century, historians say. As present-day Jerusalem gears up for an expected flood of pilgrims for the year 2000, the legacy of the year 1000 can serve as a reminder of the good and bad that come from millennial expectation. ``Millennial enthusiasm can lead to peace and war,'' Landes said, ``Millennial energy can go both ways. We ignore it at our peril.'' DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That
[CTRL] Bowie and the Occult
-Caveat Lector- http://www.cyberlink.ch/%7Ekoenig/bowie.htm DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Games of Empires
-Caveat Lector- .. Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: JRKing Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1] Subject: The Games of Empires Date: Sunday, November 07, 1999 9:22 PM The Games of Empires By Michael R. Allen web posted October 4, 1999 If you loved the Gulf War, thought Operation Desert Fox stopped too early, and The Siege contained no stereotyping, you know what needs to be done. Recently, Iraqis who may or may not have been soldiers killed two Kuwaiti soldiers near the border of the two states. This is a great excuse to escalate American-British military attacks against Iraq. The rest of the world -- those who do not trust their governments with the use of stealth bombers and fancy missiles -- know what we might be in for: another long war, fought under the guise of supposed Iraqi "weapons of mass destruction" but probably about oil. Soon, the US will have to employ its own weapons of mass destruction to make a clear statement: it's not what a country has, it's which country has it. Iraq is not playing the imperial game on America's terms, and must be punished. Just as in the original Gulf War, Kuwait is accusing Iraq of violating its sovereignty. The killed soldiers are being referred to as "the two martyrs," so one can already predict a replay of 1990. Iraq is pure evil, Kuwait is a great nation in need of protection, and Hussein's total obeisance is the goal. It might be easier to just kill old Saddam, but his defeat would be more exciting to the Western foreign policy elite. But why let the Iraqi people suffer in the meantime? Because their suffering is political leverage for the bombers. Hussein is purported to be responsible for their condition, not trade embargoes. Therefore, war is to be the humanitarian solution. Fortunately, France, Russia, China, and other national governments do not buy the US-UK argument. The US and its lapdog Britain (or is it vice versa?) are the last two 'civilized' countries to be fighting a war that technically ended nearly seven years ago. Since December 19th alone, the two have flown 12,583 sorties over Iraq's sovereign air space -- in the name of patrolling the 'no-fly' zone. Again, the arbitrary nature of the conflict is striking, but not surprising. Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein has some sensible beliefs: He believes that his nation's borders shouldn't be invaded, nor should his people be bombed by daily runs of military jets. Hussein's government also has suggested that if -- out of the entire United Nations Security Council -- only the two countries bombing Iraq want an embargo in place, that the embargo should be dropped. The foreign policy establishments in the US and in Britain find these positions so illogical and one-sided that they have accused Hussein of not playing fair. Hussein has responded that it's hard to play fair when the only rule of engagement is that whatever his government does is wrong. Here, Saddam Hussein is right on the mark. While Hussein may not be the most freedom-loving leader in the world, and accepted US aid in the early 1980's, his military is small and has never attacked the US or Britain. His regime may exploit its condition continually, but it's clear the embargo alone is responsible for the horrible conditions of Iraq. Before 1990, oil exporting accounted for nearly all of the Gross National Product and over two-thirds of all food was imported. With this balance upset forcibly, the internal conditions in Iraq have become unbearable. Hussein is correct to defend Iraq from relentless persecution. If the US-British alliance advances its attacks to formal war again, it will be impossible not to hope for his successful fortification of his country. The American effort to destroy Iraq cannot be supported by anyone who wants liberty and peace, for it rests on unsavory motivations. The destruction of Iraq is sought for economic reasons. The Western foreign policy elite is intertwined with business interests, and American oil companies do not need the honest competition posed by the Iraqi crude. In a world in which America has secure borders, the military has to be used offensively or else contract in size. Defense contractors, bankers, and others have an interest in seeing US foreign policy support a large military buildup. Without a large military, the US could not play the imperialism game. If the United Nations team investigating last week's shooting incidents finds against Iraq, one expects nothing less than another 'operation' led by the US and Britain. The new operation will arrive in more fortuitous circumstances than last year's attack. This time, President Clinton won't be accused of wagging the dog on impeachment eve, so more Republicans will be on his side. And Iraq can actually be accused of provoking an attack. After the events of this decade, though, it is difficult to believe that Iraq has provoked anything
[CTRL] (2) Bowie and the Occult
-Caveat Lector- Interviewer: Exactly how true is the story you can't remember making "Station to Station"? Bowie: "Very true. I would say a lot of the time I spent in America in the '70s is really hard to remember ... in a way that I've not seen happen to too many other artists. I was flying out there -- really in a bad way. So I listen to 'Station to Station' as a piece of work by an entirely different person. "Firstly, there's the content, which nobody's actually been clear about; I've never read a review that actually sussed it. "The 'Station to Station' track itself is very much concerned with the stations of the Cross. All the references within the piece are to do with the Kabbalah. It's the nearest thing to a magickal treatise that I've written. It's an extremely dark album ..." Q, February 1997 http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~rpodolsk/q.html DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FW: (fwd) Hulda Clark UPDATE - For General Distribution
-Caveat Lector- Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 12:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (fwd) Hulda Clark UPDATE - For General Distribution - The following message is forwarded to you by [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 11:28:33 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Bolen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Clark UPDATE - For General Distribution Hulda Clark Campaign In High Gear... Opinion by Tim Bolen Sunday, November 7, 1999 UPDATE - Hulda Clark gets two major awards. Last week was an important week in the Clark campaign. Dr. Hulda Clark, PHD, received two major awards, one from an International Scientific organization, the other from a national self-styled consumer advocate group. Both groups apparently placed her as a world renowned humanitarian, a forward thinking scientist, and a hero in the health world. THE FIRST AWARD, given at the tenth annual forum of the International Association of New Science at Fort Collins, Colorado was a serious peer affirmation of her work. Sponsored at the forum, by a former Apollo Astronaut and a co-founder of the Peace Corps, Dr. Clark delivered a speech and conducted a workshop to a standing-room-only crowd. She was given the "New Scientist of the Year Award." THE SECOND AWARD came in a strange package and requires some insider understanding, and interpretation of it's real meaning. Steven Barrett, MD., a non-practicing psychiatrist(?), working out of his basement in Allentown, Pennsylvania, supposedly writing on behalf of his so-called "National Council Against Health Fraud (NCAHF)" wrote an article for his web site (www. quackwatch.com) called "The Bizarre Claims of Hulda Clark." Clark insiders were thrilled at Barrett's recognition of their hero. Little is known about the NCAHF. Nick-naming itself "The Quackbusters," it's membership is secret, and it's funding is (?). But, leaders in the "Alternative Medicine" movement have long recognized that to be listed as a "quack" on the Barrett, Jarvis, Herbert, Renner "hit list" is tantamount to having "arrived" in the health world. Clark is now recognized in the company of Linus Pauling and the great health humanitarians of our time. Apparently, only those health leaders whose works seriously frighten Barrett's sponsors(?) make the "list" in the first place. To be personally written up by Barrett himself gives Clark serious stature in the health community, and is by itself, an affirmation of the truth and validity of her work. To be criticized by Barrett personally, is an honor that few will ever attain... Clark joins the ranks of 2,500 other top health professionals in North America, including 1,137 MDs, 167 PhDs, 236 DOs, 79 DDSs, 228 DCs, and 441 other (BS, RN, ND, HMD, CSW, MSN). Famous Julian Whitaker, MD of the Whitaker Wellness Institute, and himself on the "hit list," says "There are 52 double doctorates on the list, with two or more of the following degrees, MD, PhD, DO, DDS, DVM, DMD. Many have university affiliation, have published in the peer-review literature, and are respected authors of books or even textbooks. Please note that this 'quack' list includes Linus Pauling, PhD. Linus Pauling is the only individual to have won two unshared Nobel Prizes, and virtually every other award for scientific achievement, both national and international. In the 1970s the editors of the British New Scientist listed Dr. Pauling as one of the top 20 scientists of all time. Albert Einstein was the only other scientist in the 20th century listed along with Aristotle, Gallileo, Isaac Newton, and Michael Faraday." For a complete copy of Doctor Whitaker's views on the NCAHF see (www.internetwks.com/pauling/quack.html) Barrett has been conducting an unsuccessful anti-Clark campaign in Indiana, apparently trying to offset the prodigious Clark support network. Mary Wayt, Editor of the Brown County Democrat in Nashville, Indiana wrote about Barrett's fiasco in an editorial showing 3 letters against Clark, and 203 for Clark. (www.browncountyindiana.com). Barrett was quoted in the Bloomington Hoosier Times, spouting some of his usual (yawn) drivel. One of Barrett's parrotts(?) showed up at a Clark "Open House" in Columbus, Indiana - and whined when he was turned away. IN OTHER NEWS: Two different state "health freedom" teams are heading for Indiana to advise local Indiana supporters in the intricacies of passing "health freedom" bills in their own state. Members of both the Colorado (already passed), and the Minnesota (in progress) teams are in constant contact with concerned Indianans. Indiana organizational teams are now forming. MORE NEWS: Louisville, Kentucky supporters are organizing
[CTRL] low-intensity conflict per Political Science Prof. Sarkesian,retired lieutenant colonel (U.S. Army)
-Caveat Lector- Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart LOW INTENSITY CONFLICT: CONCEPTS, PRINCIPLES, AND POLICY GUIDELINES Dr. Sam C. Sarkesian SINCE 1945, the coming together of major developments in nuclear weaponry, modern revolutionary doctrine, and Third World developments have reshaped the international arena. Combined with the American experience in Vietnam, they have had a significant impact on American national will, political resolve, and perceptions of international security. One result is that American military involvement in any foreign area outside Europe is likely to create suspicion and provoke domestic political restiveness, which can easily lead to serious internal political opposition to American policy. This situation has made it difficult for the United States to prepare for and deal with small, nonnuclear wars. The difficulty of designing American strategy and political-military policy in response to nonnuclear wars of a lesser order is compounded by a lack of agreement regarding the character of such wars, their boundaries, and the rules of engagement. Some conceptual coherency is necessary even if only as a first step in developing realistic political-military policy. Conceptual Considerations The term low-intensity conflict is in vogue in categorizing nonnuclear conflicts of a lesser order. Lacking a precise definition, this term has come to encompass every type of nonnuclear conflict ranging from the Korean War to terrorism. Earlier attempts at defining or explaining this term/concept were, in the main, based on the size of the forces engaged and the purpose of the conflict.1 The primary distinction however, rests more with the character of the conflict than with its level of intensity or the specific number of forces involved. Although low-intensity conflict is perceived by some to include limited conventional wars and acts of terrorism, the substantive dimensions of such conflicts evolve primarily from revolutionary and counterrevolutionary strategy and causes. In brief, these include unconventional operations, protractedness, and high political-psychological content directly linked to the political-social milieu of the indigenous area. Limited conventional wars and acts of terrorism are outside the boundaries of low-intensity conflicts. Revolution and counterrevolution are the major categories. There is considerable disagreement in the literature and in operational circles regarding the character of revolution and counterrevolution. A variety of terms tend to be used interchangeably: revolt, revolution, rebellion, guerrilla war, people's war, peasant war, and insurgency. This interchangeable use adds confusion to the disagreements. A realistic and operationally relevant approach is suggested by Bernard Fall: "Just about anybody can start a 'little war' (which is what the Spanish word guerrilla literally means), even a New York street gang But all this has rarely produced the kind of revolutionary ground swell which simply swept away the existing government."2 Fall goes on to note that " . . . guerrilla warfare is nothing but a tactical appendage of a far vaster political contest and that no matter how expertly it is fought by competent and dedicated professionals, it cannot possibly make up for the absence of a political rationale."3 From Fall's analysis, several observations emerge. Revolutions are a fundamental challenge to the existing political order and to those holding power in the system. The essence of such conflicts is in gaining control of the governing structure. Although all wars are political in nature, revolutionary wars are unique in that they center on the political-social system as the main battle arena, rather than on the armed forces. This focus is in sharp contrast to the conventional and Clausewitzian notion that the center of gravity in war is the defeat and destruction of the enemy armed forces.4 Revolutionary war is also quite distinct from nuclear war in that it does not attempt to destroy the political-social system but to capture it, and it limits itself to a particular geographic area. Although armed conflict is an important part of revolution, it is not necessarily the most important for revolutionary success. As noted previously, the center of gravity in revolution is the political-social system and its psychological coherency. Thus, political cadre and psychological instruments are most important in determining the outcome of such conflicts. In sum, revolutionary conflict is usually initiated by a competing political system which, at a minimum, consists of a cadre of leaders with an ideology (or cause) who are committed to overthrowing the existing system. Although this competing system may be rudimentary, its purposes, organization, and leadership pose a distinct challenge to the existing system. Further, revolutionary strategy and tactics usually combine all of the components of
[CTRL] Panix Surveillance Camera Players @ Berlin Wall 1989-1999 aniversary
-Caveat Lector- I LOVE this !! Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Blackout Books Infoshop Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 3:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Berlin Wall 1989-1 ATo mark the 10th anniversary of the breaching of the Berlin Wall, the Surveillance Camera Players (SCP) will perform in front of the surveillance camera that guards a small portion of the Wall, displayed as a piece of sculpture in the tiny "urban park" at 520 Madison Avenue, Manhattan (the park is actually on 53rd Street between Madison and Fifth Avenues). At noon, Wednesday 10 November 1999, the SCP will perform two plays: first You Are Being Watched For Your Own Safety, which was recently performed for the first time (and in Peekskill, NY); and second, a brand-new adaptation of Wilhelm Reich's The Mass Psychology of Fascism. Formed in NYC in November 1996, the SCP are unconditionally opposed to the use of surveillance cameras. Like all cameras, the video or closed-circuit television camera is a tool of social control, a tool that is used to condition people into privileging images of life over life itself. But, unlike the apparently neutral photographer's camera, the video or closed-circuit television camera is explicitly a tool that helps established authority to direct, supervise and control the behavior of large numbers of people. Surveillance cameras violate our constitutionally protected rights to privacy, anonymity and free assembly. Composed of anarchists, the SCP fight against both the use of surveillance cameras and the general fetishism of images. The group performs in places in which the presence of surveillance cameras are particularly offensive. The plays performed are written and adapted so that their meaning and relevance are clear to all, not just to the cognoscenti. The SCP, despite their hostility to the society of the capitalist spectacle, allow themselves to be photographed, interviewed and written about by the media; they also maintain a website at http://www.panix.com/~notbored/the-scp.html. The group intends to explode the myth that only those who are doing something wrong fear surveillance cameras (i.e., that the only ones opposed to surveillance cameras are people with something to hide). Contact: Art Toad, Director [EMAIL PROTECTED] The A-Infos News Service News about and of interest to anarchists COMMANDS: [EMAIL PROTECTED] REPLIES: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HELP: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.ainfos.ca INFO: http://www.ainfos.ca/org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Urban Legends= CIA site (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Sorry, false alarm... (probably) ---Forwarded Message--- From: "Gary Hawkins" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 Subj: RE: [RF]: Urban Legends= CIA site The originators, claiming to be two doctors, are lying to you at least in part. Most of the information was correct, that is, it is owned by a Colonel, but they altered the registrant section. Here's the real record: Registrant: UL Debunkers (URBANLEGENDS-DOM) 535 County Rd. 1600N Lot 22 Champaign, IL 61821 USA Here's their fake: Registrant: United States Central Intelligence Agency Branch Office #311 P.O. Box 5752 Washington, DC 20015 Check it out yourself: http://www.networksolutions.com/cgi-bin/whois/whois/ At 09:09 PM 11-7-1999 -0500, you wrote: -Caveat Lector- From: "VGammill" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 Subj: [RF]: Urban Legends= CIA site **Exclusive** Dear Friend: Many of you have probably received e-mails in the past claiming to be from dying cancer patients or warning you of some new computer virus. Upon forwarding these incredible stories to your friends and family, some smart alec may forward you a reference to some so-called "urban legends" website which claims to have proof debunking these stories. DO NOT BE FOOLED BY THESE URBAN LEGENDS WEBSITES! Recent research has revealed that many urban legends books and websites are actually urban legends themselves. Oftentimes the stories you read in forwarded e-mail messages, as incredible as they may seem, are absolutely TRUE. It is the claim that these stories are urban legends which is FALSE. Why, you may ask, would anyone do such a thing? Why spend valuable time and money creating a site only to deceive innocent Internet users? The reason for doing this is that many world governments (including the United States government) have a strong vested interest in deceiving "the masses." For instance, many alleged "urban legends" deal with true events that are potentially embarassing and incriminating to the government (UFO sightings, government experimentation on humans, etc.). What better way to keep these kinds of covert operations secret than to spread rumors that they are actually just "urban legends"? Doing this results in the more educated--and, therefore, more politically influential--groups in society believing that they know the "real" truth, when in fact they could not be more deceived. How did we discover that the government is intentionally using Internet urban legend websites to deceive the public? We did so by accessing a freely-available but relatively-unknown database of all Internet domain names and their respective owners. The entry for http://www.urbanlegends.com, which claims to be an urban-legend debunking site, clearly shows that this site is controlled by the government: Domain Name: URBANLEGENDS.COM Registrant: United States Central Intelligence Agency Branch Office #311 P.O. Box 5752 Washington, DC 20015 Administrative Contact: Heimbaugh, Jason R., Colonel (JRH) [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1 217 863 2001 Record last updated on 02-Apr-98. Database last updated on 24-Jan-99 06:52:55 EST. Domain servers in listed order: NS.ADVANCENET.NET 205.198.248.3 DNS.ADVANCENET.NET 205.198.248.4 Furthermore, you can even contact Col. Heimbaugh, the "administrative contact" for this domain at the e-mail address in the record above ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). He freely admits to being a retired military officer and a current employee of the CIA. He refused to comment on the www.urbanlegends.com website, saying that its purpose was "classified," yet insisted that the CIA was merely trying to "keep the American public properly informed by discrediting allegations that could jeopardize the ability of our leaders to govern effectively." By this he can only mean one thing: the U.S. government is using Internet urban legends websites to deceive the public. We have recently learned that the following other Internet urban legends sites are also owned and operated by the government: http://urbanlegends.tqn.com/ http://www.scambusters.org/legends.html http://www.snopes.com/ We believe that it is essential that this information be properly disseminated so that people can learn the truth. When we attempted to publicize this information by creating a website of our own, the site was shut down due to a "permanent TCP/IP routing error" and all of our data was destroyed. Thus, sending this information out by e-mail has become our last hope. PLEASE SEND THIS MESSAGE TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW!!! This information is too important to be ignored. Thank you for taking the time to read this. Dr. Geoffrey Limache Dr. Leroy Taho DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid
[CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- [Sounds like this "Angel Scroll" may be describing where Jesus/Yashua just might/could have had a "Close Encounter of the Nth Kind," huh? --MS] Source: http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/Sunday-Times/stifgnmid01001.html?2177977 Scroll names Jesus as sect member By Matthew Kalman Jerusalem SINCE their discovery almost half a century ago, the Dead Sea scrolls have fascinated biblical scholars. The mystery surrounding them has deepened, however, with claims that a hitherto unknown scroll, which threatens to challenge the originality of Christian theology, was spirited out of the Holy Land and ended up in the hands of Benedictine monks, who tried to suppress its contents. According to a bizarre tale that has unfolded over the past few weeks in Israel, the so-called Angel scroll was found by a Bedouin tribesman in Jordan in the late 1960s on the eastern shore opposite the Qumran caves, where the Dead Sea scrolls made famous by the late Professor Yigael Yadin were discovered in ancient pottery jars several years earlier. The Bedouin is then said to have sold it to an antiquities dealer in the Jordanian capital, Amman. As news of the find circulated, scholars began frantic talks to buy the scroll through an intermediary, an international arms dealer identified only as Ziyad H. It was then that a German Benedictine monk - named as Matheus Gunther, which is believed to be a pseudonym - became involved. Armed with huge sums of Benedictine money, he allegedly negotiated for a year and was finally allowed a 3mm fragment of the scroll. Finally, in 1981, the deal was completed and the scroll, bearing 1,000 lines of mixed text, was smuggled out of Jordan to a Benedictine monastery somewhere near the German- Austrian border, to be studied by a team of monks who had taken a vow of silence. Gunther died in 1996, but is said to have bequeathed his notes and a copy of the text to an Israeli friend known as Steve Daniels. For the past three years, Daniels has been allegedly preparing it for publication, together with two other Israelis who knew the monk. According to the two Israelis - one of whom spoke to The Sunday Times on condition of anonymity - the text contradicts the official origins of Christianity and is so explosive that church authorities decided to suppress it. Gunther could not bear to see it left mouldering in the vaults, they claimed, and he decided that his vow of silence should be broken after his death. "I saw in this scroll the crowning achievement of my scholarly work and of my religious mission," the monk wrote in his notes, some of which were shown to the Jerusalem Report, a leading Israeli news magazine. "I promised that I would not carry to my grave the secrets of this remarkable scroll." The text, said to have been carbon-dated to the 1st century, supposedly describes a religious vision experienced at Ein Elgatain, a desert encampment on the eastern shore of the Dead Sea, by Yeshua ben Padiah, who was taken by an angel, Panameia, through the gates of a palace and into the heavens. Yeshua is Hebrew for Jesus. It is said to mirror the teachings of Jesus to such an extent that it calls their originality into question. Many of the ideas described in the scroll imply that Jesus was heavily influenced by, or even a member of, the Essenes sect widely credited with writing the Dead Sea scrolls. Scholars who have studied excerpts from a computerised transcript are divided over the text's authenticity, however. To give a definitive answer, they say they must first see the original - or at least a photograph. "If it is the real thing, we'll be talking about something phenomenally important to understanding the background of Christianity and Jewish mysticism," said Professor Stephen Pfann of the University of the Holy Land, an expert on the scrolls. "I haven't yet seen anything that discredits it in such a way that I would put it outside the realms of possibility." Pfann, who has translated some of the text into English, said that Yeshua's vision contained many concepts similar to the other Dead Sea scrolls. It is dated some 100 years later, however, indicating it was written during, or shortly after, Jesus's lifetime. Many scholars are still unconvinced. "The text itself is very queer. There is Hebrew with Aramaic words," said Magen Broshi, former curator of the Jerusalem museum that holds the Dead Sea scrolls. "The whole thing is so strange and I think, if I were about to commit a forgery, this is what I would have done." Another problem authenticating the story has been tracing Gunther's origins. Father Bargil Pixner, a Benedictine monk and scholar in Israel, said he never knew of any such monk and was "very sceptical" about the story. In favour of the monk's account, however, is the supposed content of the Angel scroll. The text is said to contain embalming recipes for resurrection and the use of herbs and stones for healing, practices attributed to the
[CTRL] (4) Bowie and the Occult
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http://www.oto.no/mmm/
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THE MAGICK MUSICK MUSEUM
One of the arenas where Thelema has had its greatest impact
is in the wacky and wonderful world of rock 'n roll.
Aleister Crowley has become one of the icons of today's
popular culture, even if this is not necessarily indicative of
any deeper understanding of his work or of Thelema. Various bands
in the various different varieties of 'metal' - death, trash, speed,
heavy - has found Crowley and his image to be an ideal 'design
element' - but rarely more than that. But for a long time, even before
the Beatles put Crowley on the cover of 'Sgt. Pepper', serious
musicians have used Crowley's work as a source of inspiration.
Mention here should primarily be made of the late, great
Graham Bond (1937-74).
[http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/8522/bond.html.
A troubled individual, he was nevertheless a musician of genius
who stood godfather to British rock in the early sixties. He was
a dedicated Thelemite long before this was 'fashionable', as is
evidenced by several of his recordings ('Holy Magick', 'We Put
Our Magick On You', 'Love Is The Law' and others).
Later Thelemic musicians like axe-hero Jimmy Page can be
seen as coming from a tradition stemming directly from Graham
Bond. Page's music has never shown any direct evidence of his
adherence to Thelema, apart from the 'Love Is The Law' quote on
the run-out groove on the first pressings of Led Zeppelin III
(1970).
Speaking of guitar-aces, the almost forgotten Lon 'Licks'
DuQuette is a musician that definitely merits further attention.
His seminal work on the Johnny Rivers album 'Homegrown' is
classic - not least because of the pics of this elusive character
on the cover.
With the growth of Thelema in the '70s and '80s, mention of
Crowley and Thelema by artists in recordings and interviews
became more frequent.
It's well known that David Bowie and Mick Jagger shared this
interest - Bowie recorded 'Quicksand,' and Jagger provided the
soundtrack for Kenneth Anger's 'Invocation of My Demon Brother'.
Sting has been known to read Crowley while on tour.
And now, when we're drawing close to the end of this
millennium, there are more bands and artists than ever who give
subtle and not-so-subtle evidence of their allegiance to the
Thelemic heritage. It can be seen very explicitly in bands like
Cassandra Complex, and are more implicitely evidenced with
outfits like Coil and Psychic TV.
The Magick Musick Museum is dedicated to collecting,
cataloguing and researching musical recordings with references
to Thelema and Aleister Crowley.
By 'references' is meant 1) a direct mention or use of such
matters in lyrics, sleevenotes and/or design and iconography,
and 2) music that has otherwise been inspired by 'the 93 current'
one way or another.
The MMM is the project of fratres Evmaios and Ra Nia of the
Norwegian OTO. The collection at present consists of recordings -
CDs, vinyl and tapes - by 100 plus artists, from the famous
to the decidedly obscure. Even if Thelema provides the focus for
the MMM, we have found that to exclude other relevant recordings
would be unnecessary. We have therefore included recordings
relevant to the greater Western magical tradition (recordings
inspired by the tarot, by the Golden Dawn etc.) as well as
relevant spoken word recordings. We are at present not going to
put up our catalogue on this web-site, but it can be obtained by
contacting us at the below address. We also plan to publish a
newsletter of some sort somewhere in the future.
We would like to thank all those who have made the MMM into
what it is by generously donating recordings and other material.
Please contact the M.M.M. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) if you have any
questions.
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Re: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-11-08 06:10:13 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [Sounds like this "Angel Scroll" may be describing where Jesus/Yashua just might/could have had a "Close Encounter of the Nth Kind," huh? --MS] In the New Testament, the disciples of Jesus in their Epistles quote from the Book of Enoch, which was included among the texts studied by the "Essenes" in the Library of Qumran. (One such text preserved alongside the Dead Sea Scrolls is "The Genesis Apocryphon," a fragment wherein Noah's father discusses with his forefather Enoch the uncertain parentage of the "luminous-faced" Ark-builder. Enoch is asked, Was Noah's mother seduced by one of the 'Nefilim' ?) With the "Essene" emphasis on Enoch, and on Kabbalistic root-concepts like Ezekiel's vision of the flying Chariot-Throne of YHWH, it's not surprising that Jesus himself referred --in the SECOND person, never "I"-- to the "Son of Man," a character which Biblical scholars often identify as ENOCH, prototype of the Ascended Master, a godlike man-among-gods, "translated to heaven" like Elijah ... DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Charles Manson and OTO, Scientology, The Process
-Caveat Lector- From: http://www.freespeech.org/koenig/manson.htm "Before Charles Manson visited the open 'parties' at the meetings of Jean Brayton's Solar Lodge of the OTO, he already had a sort of history of occultism himself. "Allegedly Manson first got interested in Scientology while he was incarcerated in the McNeil Island Penitentiary in Washington. (Scientology had RECRUITING programs in prisons ...) It is said that Manson received 150 hours of Scientology 'auditing.' "After his release from prison, Manson went to Los Angeles where he was said to have met local Scientologists and attended several parties for movie stars, possibly the July 18 dedication of Scientology's first Celebrity Center in Hollywood. Manson was eager to meet celebrities in order to find producers for his guitar music. (For example, he contacted Terry Melcher, Doris Day's son, and a member of the Beach Boys.) "There are hints that shortly afterwards he got involved with the Solar Lodge of the OTO and may have also encountered The Process, a Satan-oriented group which broke away from Scientology, which itself had its own history with Crowley's OTO ... "[The Solar Lodge] held 'profane parties' to bring in the masses, and people were attracted to the idea of a special, semi-secret organization with rituals, with 'sex and good drugs and groovy people' ... About 50 non-members had been attracted, among them Hollywood stars ... [But] the most famous guest was Charles Manson ..." "When it became known that Manson had been a guest at Brayton's OTO, Grady McMurtry [head of a rival OTO group in Southern California] informed on Brayton to the FBI so as to avoid becoming HIMSELF a subject of the FBI's investigation. "He also fed material to journalist Ed Sanders, who returned the favor by avoiding mention of McMurtry in his book 'The Family.' In fact, newer editions of Sanders' book do not contain references to ANY lodge of the OTO." "One member of the Manson family, Bobby Beausoleil, had lived with movie maker Kenneth Anger [whose credits include 'Invocation of My Demon Brother,' in which Mick Jagger participated, and 'Inauguration of the Pleasure Dome.'] Before participating in the murder of Hollywood celebrities, Beausoleil acted as Lucifer in Anger's movie 'Lucifer Rising.' While in prison, he composed the music for the movie. "Kenneth Anger was also instrumental in founding Anton LaVey's Church of Satan [LaVey had been the 'technical advisor' for 'Rosemary's Baby,' starring Manson victim Sharon Tate.] Today, Kenneth Anger is a close friend of William Breeze, the Caliph of the new OTO group founded as a consequence of the Solar Lodge scandals ... " DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Micrsoft: A Predatory Monopoly--Wall Street Journal (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- A Predatory Monopoly snip monopoly Exclusive possession of the trade in some article of merchandise; the condition of having no competitor in the sale of some commodity, or in the exercise of some trade or business. Oh, you mean ... The MONOPOLY Federal Judge agrees the MONOPOLY Justice Department that the MONOPOLY Leviathan State should smash great Public Benefactor. Anti-Trust is silly and UNCONSTITUTIONAL. There has NEVER been a monopoly which did not require the Government's force to ensure it. Regard$, --MJ All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void. Marbury v Madison, 5 US (2 Cranch) 137, 174, 176; 2 LE 60 (1803). Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule making or legislation which would abrogate them. Miranda v Arizona, 384 US 436, 491; 86 S Ct 1602; 16 L Ed 2d 694 (1966). An unconstitutional act is not law; it confers no rights; it imposes no duties; affords no protection'; creates no office. It is in legal contemplation, as inoperative as though it had never been passed. Norton v Shelby County, Tennessee, 118 US 425, 442; 6 S Ct 1121; 30 L Ed 178 (1886). No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it. 16 Am Jur 2d § 177, late 2d § 256. Judges must of course, obey and enforce the constitution and laws themselves, e.g., Matter of Hague, 412 Mich 532; 315 NW2d 524 (1982). Unconstitutional laws are treated as though they had never existed. For example, in one state alone, here are examples: Bonnett v Vallier, 136 Wis 193, 200; 116 NW 885, 887 (1908); State ex rel Ballard v Goodland, 159 Wis 393, 395; 150 NW 488, 489 (1915); State ex rel Kleist v Donald, 164 Wis 545, 552-553; 160 NW 1067, 1070 (1917); State ex rel Martin v Zimmerman, 233 Wis 16, 21; 288 NW 454, 457 (1939); State ex rel Commissioners of Public Lands v Anderson, 56 Wis 2d 666, 672; 203 NW2d 84, 87 (1973); and Butzlaffer v Van Der Geest Sons, Inc, Wis, 115 Wis 2d 539; 340 NW2d 742, 744-745 (1983). DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Microsoft and liberty
-Caveat Lector- ~~for educational purposes only~~ Microsoft and liberty Llewellyn H. Rockwell Jr. Is free enterprise legal in America or not? That is the fundamental question raised by federal judge Thomas Penfield Jackson's 207-page "Findings of Fact" against Microsoft. Here's a judge who has been openly biased from the beginning, who didn't know how to turn on a computer a couple of years ago, and who even the New York Times says had to learn about software as the trial progressed. This judge, pretending to know more than hundreds of millions of freely choosing consumers, now calls Microsoft a monopoly and demands that it be smashed. For all the mind-numbing rhetoric, the invocations of outdated economic models, and the intricate legalese, there is one enormous, gaping hole in the judge's argument: Microsoft committed no crimes in the normal sense in which that word is used. Nowhere does the judge show that Microsoft committed fraud, stole, coerced, broke contracts, or threatened anyone or any company with violence. It didn't take advantage of any government regulations to erect legal barriers to its competitors and it didn't benefit from any subsidies. The company has not aggressed on anyone's property or forced any producer or consumer to pay the company money, to sign any contract, or to buy its products. At every stage of its rise to dominance in the operating-system market, the consumers and firms it dealt with could have told Microsoft to get lost. That they did not demonstrates that they believed it was to their advantage to work with Microsoft, which it clearly has been. Everything Microsoft has done to succeed, it has done peacefully through exchange and contract. Strip away all the rhetoric, then, and what Microsoft stands guilty of is being a better producer and supplier than its competitors. That is the "crime" being punished in Judge Jackson's mixed-up, upside-down, inside-out kangaroo court. To make it appear otherwise, Jackson had to use rarified meanings of common words in his "Findings of Fact." Turn to page 46 and we have Microsoft not freely sharing technical information with Netscape, which is said to have "forced" Netscape to delay the release of a MS-compatible browser. Now, a regular dictionary says that force means physical coercion. But Microsoft did no such thing. It was merely trying to keep its competitive advantage, and it had every right to do so. It gets crazier. On page 86, we find that not charging for software also amounts to "force": "Microsoft has forced Windows 98 users uninterested in browsing to carry software that, while providing them with no benefits, brings with it all the costs associated with carrying additional software on a system." In the same way, Burger King forces you to take a large drink with its Value Meal. Moreover, on page 86, 91, and 93, we have the great criminal Microsoft "forcing" consumers to use its browser in order to get other free stuff from the company. Surely you know the feeling: you are "forced" to buy Cheerios in order to get the free decoder ring inside. Microsoft's crime is no more or less serious than that. On page 112, the judge makes a senseless distinction that is at the heart of the case. He says Microsoft refused to use the "power of the market" and instead used its "market power." But forgetting the strange use of the word "power," the judge's distinction is without a difference. The market is a process that selects firms out according to their success in providing consumers with what they want at the lowest possible price. If the winner falls down on the job (see, e.g., the whole history of industry), it will be replaced by someone who will not. Microsoft did not want to be replaced, so it worked to compete. On page 68, we have another listing of a non-crime crime. "In addition to improving the quality of Internet Explorer," the judge says accusingly (!), "Microsoft sought to increase the product's share of browser usage by giving it away for free. In many cases, Microsoft also gave other firms things of value (at substantial cost to Microsoft) in exchange for their commitment to distribute and promote Internet Explorer, sometimes explicitly at Navigator's expense." Horrors! Microsoft improved its product? Then gave it away for free? It gave others "things of value"? Even when it cost a lot to do so? And all in order to beat its competitors? Welcome to the free enterprise system. It is because capitalism rewards such things that we love it. And here comes the judge to say that this is all gravely evil. Why? Because this action by Microsoft "forced" (page 178) Netscape to release its browser for free. In this man's twisted logic, free stuff for everyone amounts to exploitation of the consumer. Has Microsoft benefited from its successes? Certainly, but so has everyone with whom Microsoft has done business. In the software market, innovation has never ceased and prices have fallen continually. If you are using a
[CTRL] (3) Bowie and the Occult
-Caveat Lector- "I used to sing along with Bowie on Ziggy Stardust** "I could make it all worthwhile as a rock 'n roll star [but] I chose Magick as a path. "Through experiences beautiful and terrifying, I have come to understand the human condition as but one aspect of a continuum of consciousness ... For me, the universe is NUIT, a living Entity with whom I interact, through fleeting streams of energy ..." [**The author, A. Livingstone (a pseudonym) is a British member of the OTO who specializes in Chaos working and theory. He has written books about Magick.] http://www.sacred-texts.com/bos/bos274.htm Chaos Magick vs. Thelema by Alistair Livingstone Inspired, no doubt foolishly, by a new moon and the Cramps' "Psychedelic Jungle," I have decided to enter the Thelema vs Chaos debate. This is of course an impossible task, which is no doubt why it appeals to me. Firstly, what is it that distinguishes Thelma from Chaos? In "Starfire," Mick Staley attempts to distinguish Thelema from Crowleyanity. Thelema, he suggested, pre-existed Crowley`s formulation of it. This immediately causes problems, since for the majority of magicians, Crowley = Thelema. But if it can be accepted that there is a something which exists independently of Crowley`s writings, then it must be this something (Thelema) which is to be contrasted with Chaos Magick. The core of this something, I suggest, is the Will. Is this idea of the Will in any way opposed to Chaos? What is Chaos then? For the purposes of this argument I will interpret Chaos as follows: that the familiar world of everyday experience has its roots in Chaos. So that any attempt to understand the world via reason reaches a boundary, on the other side of which lies Chaos, a state of existence/non-existence which cannot be understood by the rational ego. However, through the techniques of ritual, that state can be manifest in the everyday world, suspending the accepted "laws" of common sense and allowing magick to occur. Furthermore, perhaps as a result of the practice Chaos magick, the idea of Chaos is slowly entering the popular imagination via science. This refutes classical science, which is based on the belief that if the structure of the physical world could be sufficiently precisely modelled in a mathematical form, it would be possible to predict the future state of various systems (wheather, for example) which make up the physical world. However, it is now grudgingly admitted that this would require a precision of measurement which it is impossible to achieve. Engineers have long since had to accept this uncertainty - that all measurement is limited by the accuracy of the measuring device. Absolute precision is an impossible goal. There is always a degree of uncertainty, an instability, and by focusing the Will upon this either/or region, the magician can exert an influence upon the world at this level, which when it occurs, can produce the Willed outcome. To the extent that Chaos is a form of magick, ie. it seeks to exert an influence upon the world of erveryday consciousness, it must involve the Will. Otherwise it would be closer to a form of mysticism, that is the attempt to "go with the flow" of the experienced world without seeking to influence the direction of that flow. In this form, Chaos is closer to a "higher form of order" that is that the apparent random or chance events of one`s experience of existence are in fact the result of some greater existence than that of the individual. And that by disengaging the desires of the ego-self, one can experience this greater existence, interpreting the obstacles and blows of everyday existence as a stimulus to the development of a "Stoic" consciousness, which will enable the self to eventually swimm freely as a fish in the river of the Tao, or Chaos. 1241 The idea which this is based on tends to be that of the hermit, the forest sage of Hinduism, the solitary adept of High Magick. No doubt if it was possible in this present age, one could experience such an existence if one could remove the self from the rest of human existence. But such a model is no longer valid, since the growth of human consciousness is such that there is no virgin wilderness left in which to undertake such a quest. We are forced to contend with the results of the human desire for knowledge, power, control and security. This is perhaps the crucial difference between Chaos magick and Thelema. Thelema, as developed by Crowley into a form suitable for the 20th century, contains a whole heritage of experience and practice which reaches back through the Golden Dawn through hermeticism to Egypt and Sumeria, which in turn drew on the beliefs of our nameless ancestors who struggled to create models of the world, cosmologies and creation myths within which to make sense of their being in the world. Crowley`s task, as had been of Mathers and
[CTRL] You Dont Say That!
-Caveat Lector- http://www.devvy.com/~devvy/fred.html [Image][Image] --- "To feed a starving child is to exacerbate the world over population problem." Dr. LaMont Cole, Yale University environmentalist "Right now there are just way too many people on the planet. A total world population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels would be ideal." Ted Turner, husband of Hanoi Jane Fonda, Chmn of the Board of Turner Broadcasting, who owns CNN; Director, Martin Luther King Center. "Every child who believes in God is mentally ill." Dr. Paul Brandwein, leading U.S. child psychologist "We reject the idea of private property." Peter Berle, former President, National Audubon Society, Board Member, Sierra Club "I would think that if you understood what Communism was, you would hope, you would pray on your knees, that we would someday become Communists." Jane Fonda, wife of Ted Turner. American women have poured double digit millions of dollars into her pocket for her fitness videos Telling people how to get a figure created through plastic surgery "If I were reincarnated, I would wish to be returned to Earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels." Prince Phillip, husband of Queen Elizabeth II, founder, World Wildlife Fund. Do you suppose his offspring think any differently? Like father, like sons.. "We've got to ride the global-warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic policy and environmental policy." Tim Wirth, former member of Congress, U.S. Under Secretary of State for Global Affairs, and one of a number of politicians (including Barbie Boxer, Barney Frank, AlGore, John Kerry, Daniel Moynihan, Chris Shays and others) who have been identified as "Green Leadership for the '90's." Had enough yet? Horrified? I hope that black Americans can forgive me for this next one, but it is important for all Americans to hear the words of liberals - words that the mainstream, or what I call the government's media apparatus, never breathe on the 5:00 news: "[S]ome nigger, some junior high [school] nigger kicks Steve's ass while he was trying to help his brothers out...Steve had the nigger down...He had the nigger down; he let him up" Roger Clinton, brother of Bill, singer, former cocaine addict, former drug dealer. This was taken verbatim off the surveillance tapes from the Arkansas State Police, June 27, 1984. Fred Gielow has just released his new book, You Don't Say. 196 pages of quotes from people who consider themselves to be of the liberal political and moral persuasion. I know you, just like me, are sick and tired and fed up with the controlled media smearing each and every honest, decent, hard working American in this country who is trying to expose the corruption and treachery of the shadow government pulling the strings of Congress. We are equally fed up by the complete fools who are in our state legislatures, city councils, schools boards and non-governmental organizations who are destroying everything this country has ever stood for. It's time we used their own words to show the real agenda of these caring, compassionate liars. It's time we used their own words right back in their face and this book provides an phenomenal amount of their own words to cook their gooses. I encourage everyone to order this important book and give it to a liberal or someone who defends Bill Clinton, the environmental wackos, those who patronizes companies advertising on CNN and say this: "Gee, I just got finished reading this book. I value your opinion and was wondering if you could take the time to read it and tell me what you think?" This is a non-confrontational method of getting someone of an opposing viewpoint to read a book or watch a video. Most people are flattered when someone asks for their opinion - especially liberals since they are usually full of themselves and think they are superior to the rest of us This book is a very easy read and Fred has laid it out in a form which makes you want to turn page after page. Even I was shocked - something very hard to do - by the documented quotations in his book. These people are even more evil and sick than I thought. Call talk radio and give a couple of quotes out of this book, along with the source. This can be an excellent tool for talk radio and it's up to US to see that it gets the widest dissemination into the public domain. You Don't Say by Fred Gielow can be ordered through Accuracy in Media at 1-800-787-4567; cost is $16.00 + S/H Let me give you a couple more quotes from those caring, compassionate liberal nut cases: "Human happiness and
Re: [CTRL] Students Are Following the President's Example - A Liberal ...
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/07/1999 6:56:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Sampson) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tenorlove) Usually I can disregard rude, lewd and unproven comments about Clinton, since he is in public office and obviously not a choir boy, but this is a bit thick. Please present evidence that Clinton as a teenager attacked kindergarden students. Making light of horrific events in the lives of children to forward your political idiology is vicious and unfeeling. I've never been raped, but I can recall a few close calls. I was an adult at the time, and it is still something I prefer not to think about. Home schooling is probably wonderful for some families, but it is not going to prevent the rape of children. It is obvious that institutions, both churches and schools, put in place to teach and protect our children are failing them and us at every turn. We need to be paying attention and money to alleviate the situations described here. It is not happening. The people who should be making sure children are safe seem to be too busy discussing sex between various concensual adults to worry about the vile things happening to our children. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Nov. 10 column -- asset seizure reform
FROM MOUNTAIN MEDIA FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE DATED NOV. 10, 1999 THE LIBERTARIAN, By Vin Suprynowicz Senate should adopt Rep. Hyde's asset seizure bill In August, when a U.S. Customs agent at the Canadian border stopped two California newlyweds and found a marijuana fleck in their car, he seized the car and $14,500 in cash, reports Tom Brune of Newsday. Authorities never even charged the couple with a crime -- but the government still got to keep their car and their money. Welcome to the unconstitutional house of horrors known as "asset forfeiture," American style. Based on an ancient English precedent which allowed the king's men to seize abandoned smugglers' craft after they'd been run ashore, this circus of fear makes a mockery of our proud constitutional traditions of due process, the presumption of innocence, and the immunity of private property from government seizure without "just compensation." (In Florida -- as exposed by CBS News some time back -- local police simply flag down black and Hispanic drivers heading north on I-95, relieve them of their cash, and send them on their lightened way.) The only rationale for such perfidy? Government police can't figure out any other way to make it look like they're making any progress with their endless, multi billion-dollar "War on Drugs." And, of course, this has become big business for "law enforcement." Department budgets can be padded without having to return to voters each year with hat in hand, and undercover officers get to drive around in all kinds of fancy, seized sports cars. In all, American police departments are expected to seize about $449 million in asserts this year -- all without such pesky, time-consuming details as a "trial." Finally, after years of frustration, House Judiciary Committee Chairman Henry Hyde, R-Ill., won approval this summer -- by the surprisingly large vote of 375-48 -- of a reform bill which is expected to reduce such miscarriages of justice by at least 40 percent. Rep. Hyde's bill would raise the standard of proof required of police before they can seize our stuff to the much higher level of "clear and convincing evidence," just one step short (as things are figured in the courts) of the standard required to prove such a link "beyond a reasonable doubt" -- the standard required for a guilty verdict in criminal trials. Sensing that the public is fed up with this indiscriminate looting, the Justice Department has decided to cut its losses, rounding up the Usual Gang of Suspects to draft a substitute "reform" measure that won't cut quite so deeply into the ill-gotten police booty. Folks like Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., ranking Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee, and our old favorite, Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., are crafting bills backed by the Justice Department and their secret police, requiring only that cops link the seized assets to some criminal act by "the preponderance of the evidence" -- still a weaker standard than "clear and convincing evidence." The Schumer substitute bill would also ease or drop other key House provisions, including the Hyde bill's elimination of expensive claim requirements for those trying to recover their seized property, as well as the Hyde bill's new provision of court-appointed counsel to those too seizure victims poor to hire one. This is described by Rep. Schumer as accomplishing a change "without throwing the baby out with the bathwater." In fact, the Republican majority is already on the right track. The Hyde bill doesn't solve the entire problem, but it's a big step in the right direction. This effort to rein in police excesses -- "short-cut" fines more reminiscent of police state bullies extorting the wealth of helpless racial minorities at Third World border crossings -- should be embraced and applauded, rather than watered down. ''If the Hyde bill passed,'' explains Richard Troberman, Seattle attorney for the California newlyweds who lost their car and their life savings, ''that case never would be filed.'' The Senate should screw its courage to the sticking place, and pass the Hyde reform bill, as is. Vin Suprynowicz is assistant editorial page editor of the Las Vegas Review-Journal. His new book, "Send in the Waco Killers: Essays on the Freedom Movement, 1993-1998," is available at $24.95 postpaid through Mountain Media, P.O. Box 271122, Las Vegas, Nev. 89127. The 500-page trade paperback may also be ordered via web site http://www.thespiritof76.com/wacokillers.html, or by dialing 1-800-244-2224. Credit cards accepted; volume discounts available. *** Vin Suprynowicz, [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The evils of tyranny are rarely seen but by him who resists it." -- John Hay, 1872 "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed -- and thus clamorous to be led to safety -- by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." -- H.L. Mencken * * *
[CTRL] Fwd: [InTheShadows] Fwd: Nov. 8 column -- limousine protection racket
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from rly-zd05.mx.aol.com (rly-zd05.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.229]) by air-zd01.mail.aol.com (v62.15) with ESMTP; Sun, 07 Nov 1999 22:34:22 -0500 Received: from ez0.ezlink.com (ezlink.com [199.45.150.1]) by rly-zd05.mx.aol.com (v62.10) with ESMTP; Sun, 07 Nov 1999 22:34:06 -0500 Received: (from list@localhost) by ez0.ezlink.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA16799; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 19:54:43 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 19:54:43 -0700 X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: v0213050db44948ee64d3@[0.0.0.0] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 19:55:45 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vin Suprynowicz) Subject: Nov. 8 column -- limousine protection racket Resent-Message-ID: "enyBR3.0.x54.aXv8u"@ez0.ezlink.com Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailing-List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] archive/latest/765 X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FROM MOUNTAIN MEDIA EDITORS NOTE: Yes, Bil Clutter spells "Bil" with one "l." FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE DATED NOV. 8, 1999 THE LIBERTARIAN, By Vin Suprynowicz Legalize the limo business Imagine being told you're free to open a Burger King or a Wendy's franchise -- as soon as you can demonstrate to state bureaucrats that by doing so you won't reduce by a single dime the sales or profits of any of the city's existing McDonald restaurants, including the one across the street. You wouldn't be able to do that, would you? The very reason you go (start ital)into(end ital) a business is because you believe you can offer better price or service than the public is getting now. Sure, you hope to develop new customers. But in a free market, you're also putting the competition on notice they'd better shape up, or you will indeed take away some of their trade. Yet this seemingly absurd scenario is precisely what has ensnared any number of independent operators who have endeavored to go into the taxi or limousine business in Las Vegas, thanks to a Nevada state statute that sets precisely that requirement -- prove your new enterprise won't harm the existing businesses, or no charter. The Washington-based Institute for Justice is even now pursuing a lawsuit in District Court on behalf of independent limousine drivers like Bil Clutter and Rich Lowre, who -- having been denied charters -- tried to find ways to operate in the legal gray zone of "third party charters" or "tip-only service," from 1987 (when the current law was enacted) through the fall of 1998. Busted by undercover police spies, however, Lowre now says "We're out of business. There've been bankruptcies, broken marriages. This is government by the lobbyists for the special interests. I come from one of the most corrupt cities in the country, which is Boston, but I've never seen anything like this." Into this blatant protection racket disguised as "state regulation" now steps former policeman and Las Vegas City Councilman (and, oh yes, Convention and Visitors Authority Chairman) Michael McDonald, announcing that he intends to go into ... the limousine business. Will the state transportation bureaucrats and the Bell family, operator of the company which Mr. Lowre's Washington attorney describes as controlling "90 percent of the market," now take the political risk of stepping forward and telling the city councilman his competition is not welcome? Or -- as Mr. Clutter's impounded limousine continues to run up more than $10,000 worth in fines and storage fees after being seized more than two years ago -- will it suddenly be, "Of course, Mr. Councilman. No problem, Mr. Chairman"? The point is not that Mr. McDonald shouldn't be allowed to buy and operate limousines -- or enter into any other legal business. Nevada, for the most part, expects her elected officials to serve part-time. They're expected to make the bulk of their livings in the private sector, rubbing shoulders with their fellow citizens and operating under the same laws they pass for everyone else. A darned good idea, too. But the risks of favoritism and thinly-veiled bribery should be obvious here. How easy might it be for someone planning a convention in Las Vegas to get the impression -- rightly or wrongly -- that any number of regulatory headaches might suddenly evaporate if only they signed a contract to throw a good part of their business to the McDonald Luxury Limousine Company -- especially if the man with Mr. McDonald's ear, City Council aide Rick Henry, changes hats and runs the limo operation Tuesdays and Thursdays? Fortunately, there's an answer which would untie the largest part of this Gordian knot. The Las Vegas City Council should petition the state Legislature to repeal all related legislation, shutting down the Transportation Services Authority -- as a state agency that operates only in Clark County, a misshapen
[CTRL] Governor's Clubs
-Caveat Lector- Today's MORNING NEWS (Times Publishing Co.) has a very interesting article "Landowner Charging Politics In Tank Training Site Purchase (State buys land from longtime Gov. Ridge campaign donor): It is out of Clearfield County, and discusses the fact that Stae officials are near to finalizing the purchase of 5,000 acres near there from coal-mining businessman C. Alan Walker, a member of a prominent Republican family that has contributed more than $90,000 to Gov. Ridge since 1993. Another landowner Glyn Powell told Easton's Express-Times that the Natinal Guard officials had called his property "the best training area for our soldiers and our equipment" two years ago in a memo, but they never contacted him after that. He says he wants taxpayer money in the right place. He is the owner of the Power Operating Co., another coal-mining business in Clearfield County. The land lies in the district of State Rep. Dan Surra, D-Clearfield, who said Ridge's administration has ignored his requests for public hearings on the training facility. He said trying to get information was like pulling teeth. He says his constituents want to know what's going on. State officials have indicated that public hearings could drive up the cost of the land and would only be held after the deal has been finalized. (I love this excuse. However, I agree. If we just get our Dictator properly in place, we can save a bundle.) Walker, CEO of Bradford Coal, calls the attacks on the land deal "political." He and his father are both members of Gov. Tom Ridge's Governor's Club, an exclusive club established after Tom Ridge became governor in 1995 that required a minimum $25,000 contribution to his re-election campaign in 1998. Since 1993, the Walker family has contributed $90,064, according to Ridge's PAC, The Ridge Leadership Fund. Ray Walker 88 (the father) once had President George Bush as a housegues, and both Walkers have already contributed to Texas Gov. George W. Bush's presidential campaign (Fed Election Comm records). The Governor's Club has since been replaced by the Governor's Leadership Circle, which requires donors to contribute $10,000 to the Gov's PAC. Both Rays (father and son) are members of the Leadership Circle. Walker says his membership has nothing to do with the State choosing his land for the tank-training grounds. He says it's a coincidence. He says that may be hard for some people to believe, but that no returns for campaign donations are expected. Walker says he admires and respects Gov Ridge. Tim Reeves, a Ridge spokesman, said no one in the administration intervened on the land buying decision. He syas it's frustrating for him to have to defenc allegations that have no evidence behind them. He says they don't do business that way. A Lt. Col Cleaver said there was a lack of spaace at Indiantown Gap limiting the National Guard to using only five of the hundreds of M-1 tanks it has. They want to put the site at the western end of the state to cut down on traveling time for Guard members. He says the land deal will be finalized this year, but may take as long as a decade before the site is ready for use. Once the deal is finalized, the state would have to conduct six months of environmental tests and ensure the land, most of which has been degraded by years of deep mining could support the tanks. Isn't it odd, that they don't want to check out if the land will support the tanks before they give out all that moolah? Oh well, the people's business as usual. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Urban Legends= CIA site (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Perhaps under the words "Caveat Lector" should be the words "When in doubt, click Delete." __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hoagland Skeptic News - Sunday #1
-Caveat Lector- Goat, I wasn't talking about hair, unless you're thinking of swallowed "recycled" furballs.snort __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Sharline Wilson granted clemency
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The "train deaths" http://www.idmedia.com/ttd.htm - Update: Monday, November 8, 1999 Sharline Wilson granted clemency http://www.idmedia.com/update-sharline-wilson-granted-clemency.htm By Jean Duffey Last month, Governor Huckabee published his intent to grant Sharline Wilson clemency. Once an intent is published, anyone who objects to a convict's release has 30 days to lodge a protest with the governor. The usual objectors are the offender's victims, the prosecutor, and the law enforcement agents of the county where the crime was committed. In Sharline's case, there were no victims, the prosecutor was Dan Harmon who is in federal prison for his own drug crimes, and the law enforcement agents in the county support her release. The sheriff and the chief of police each included affidavits in Sharline's clemency application stating they believe her sentence was excessive and justice would be served if she is released. Considering that Sharline would not have the usual protesters, we decided to keep the news of the governor's intent as quiet as possible to prevent any waves from other possible protesters, like supporters of Bill Clinton. Although Sharline's long-time advocates, Jane Chastain, who has a popular west coast talk-radio show, and Sarah Foster, who writes for WorldNetDaily, were notified about the governor's intent, they agreed to hold the story for Sharline's sake. They could, and should, have been the ones to break the story, but their concern for Sharline cost them the "scoop" which was reported Saturday by the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette and the Drudge Report. Fortunately, the 30 days notice was up Friday, and Governor Huckabee commuted Sharline's sentence to time served. As soon as her release papers make it through the bureaucratic channels, she will be freed. That should be within days. In the meantime, Linda's plight for justice continues. She did receive a shot in the arm when Mara Leveritt's bookwas released this month. The reviews have been better than even hoped for and the first-week sales have been promising. Mara has written an accurate and meticulously documented account of the tangled web of government corruption which has used its power to perpetuate a cover-up of the murders of Kevin and Don. The book explains how the Arkansas political machine works so that even the skeptical will understand. Be sure to order Mara's book if you haven't already done so. It will make a great Christmas gift. - The Boys on the Tracks By Mara Leveritt: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Get it at Amazon.com http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0312198418/o/qid=940581952/sr=8-1/002-6851388-3893032/thetraindeaths - Next Update: Train Deaths Video Liable Trial. - Contact: * Jean Duffey: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Linda Ives: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ONElist Sponsor GRAB THE GATOR! FREE SOFTWARE DOES ALL THE TYPING FOR YOU! Tired of filling out forms and remembering passwords? Gator fills in forms and passwords with just one click! Comes with $50 in free coupons! a href=" http://clickme.onelist.com/ad/gator4 "Click Here/a
[CTRL] *HELEN CHENOWETH * ON WACO * Washington Weekly*
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/7/99 11:33:48 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Original Message- From: Don Stacey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, November 07, 1999 9:03 PM Subject: FW: Investigating Waco - Rep. Chenoweth This is an insightful item. It quotes an Idaho sheriff at length. He provides the perspective of a law enforcement agent - well worth reading! Don -Original Message- From: Washington Weekly [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 8:53 AM Subject: Investigating Waco - Rep. Chenoweth INVESTIGATING WACO Rep. Chenoweth, House of Representatives, Nov. 3, 1999 Mr. Speaker, as we continue in this body with the day-to-day debate over next year's budget, I would like to take a moment to help refocus our attention on an issue that demands the attention and the action of Congress, an issue that is not necessarily pleasant to deal with but one that we must deal with, and that is the role of the Federal law enforcement and the military in the Waco tragedy. Mr. Speaker, I would like to share with my colleagues an article written by George Nourse, who is a sheriff of Canyon County in my State of Idaho. This article is about the outstanding and relentless work of the Texas Rangers in seeking justice in the Waco tragedy and is appropriately entitled, quote, 'Spin is Not an Investigation,' end quote. Mr. Speaker, I will read only a portion of this article and would submit the remainder of the article to be included in the Record. It is imperative that we investigate what went wrong in Waco and that we consider the view of those who know how to do it right, the many dedicated and honest law enforcement officials throughout this great country. In commenting on how Washington works when it comes to investigations, Sheriff Nourse, in his article, profoundly states, quote, 'Washington does not investigate. It spins. The spin in Waco was to demonize the people who were killed. The Feds killed more people at Waco than all the school violence and wacko shootings added together over the last 6 years. Seventeen of the 24 Waco children were under the age of 10. Think about it.' He wrote, 'The terror! The pain and confusion those young children went through before they died. However, the media bought Washington's spin, plain and simple,' end quote. Sheriff Nourse contrasts the Federal spin with the real investigation by the Texas Rangers in pointing out the following: He said, 'The investigation by the Texas Rangers is not spin. A dozen spent rifle cartridges preferred by sharpshooters, as well as the FBI and ATF, were found in a house near the Davidians' compound that was occupied by Federal agents during that stand- off. Both agencies denied firing a single round during that stand-off that followed the initial attack.' Mr. Speaker, Sheriff Nourse also asked the puzzling question that every single county sheriff must grapple with. He wrote, 'The question that really bothers me is how did the Federal Government take over such an operation? And why the total absence of local law enforcement on the scene? And what was the local sheriff doing while all of this was going on?' Sheriff Nourse continued, 'I have never been told this part of the story and it deeply worries me. I know what my position would be here in Canyon County and I am more than a little concerned as to what that might lead to.' Finally, Mr. Speaker, Sheriff Nourse, who has himself participated in numerous law enforcement activities, makes an observation that dumbfounds us all. States Nourse, 'Think about it. Law enforcement officers shooting fully automatic weapons at a building knowing there are 24 small children inside. That is not law enforcement,' the sheriff writes. 'It is an act of war at its worst.' Mr. Speaker, I again urge my colleagues to join me in seeking hearings on this tragic epic in American history. We must get to the bottom of why the Federal Government waived the Posse Comitatus Act and involved the military in this domestic law enforcement action. This is a decision that could only have been made at the very top levels of government and we must find out who exactly made that decision at that top level. Outstanding Americans such as Sheriff Nourse are demanding answers to these questions. We must join him. Let us not make this same tragic mistake, as Federal law enforcement, by spinning instead of conducting real bona fide investigations. The Shining Star: Spin Is Not an Investigation! (BY SHERIFF GEORGE NOURSE) Janet Reno's Whacky War on Waco is back in the news. And Washington D.C. is gearing up to give it a second coat of
[CTRL] OEN 11/8/99
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ Click Here: A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Money Laundering The Citibank-Raul Salinas Connection Just don't ask John Reed about his hidden gold bars. WASHINGTON Citibank, a U.S. banking powerhouse with operations spanning the globe, is under Senate scrutiny for its handling of millions of dollars in alleged drug money for a brother of a former Mexican president. The inquiry into activities of a unit of Citigroup Inc., the nation's largest financial company, is shining a spotlight on the cloistered world of private banking, which discreetly caters to the very wealthy. But, Senate investigators say, drug traffickers, corrupt officials and tax evaders around the world are using private banking to launder their illicit profits through the banking system. The abuses occur because private banking operations which often require a minimum deposit of $1 million offer their clients secrecy with offshore accounts, code names for account owners and shell companies, according to investigators. The inquiry also is bringing one of the most powerful U.S. corporate executive s, Citigroup Co-Chairman John Reed, to Capitol Hill. He is scheduled to testify Tuesday before the Senate Governmental Affairs subcommittee on investigations. For a year, the subcommittee has examined the private banking activities of New York-based Citibank most notably its handling of alleged drug money for Raul Salinas, the eldest brother of Carlos Salinas de Gortari, who was Mexico's president from 1988 to 1994. In money laundering, illicit profits from criminal activities pass through a series of transactions to hide their origin and make them appear to be legitimate business proceeds. The Senate investigation found that Reed, as the head of Citibank, failed to take significant action in the early 1990s despite internal warnings that the bank was failing to follow its own policies to prevent money laundering, said a subcommittee investigator, speaking on condition of anonymity. Reed was aware that Citibank's internal audits showed its private banking operation was ignoring the control policies, the investigator said. Reed is expected to acknowledge in his testimony that bank oversight was lax and that, as a result, key executives in the private banking operation were replaced, rules were tightened and computer systems were improved for monitoring the transactions of wealthy clients. Citibank also is more closely checking the backgrounds of foreign politicians and other public figures before accepting them as private banking clients, Reed is expected to tell the subcommittee. Citibank officials point to a report in January by Federal Reserve examiners saying the private banking operation "has demonstrated that it is committed to achieving its goal of changing the culture ... and creating a well-integrated global risk management and internal control structure. Significant progress has been made in correcting control deficiencies noted at the prior inspection." The Senate investigators also have examined other suspicious foreign accounts handled by Citibank's private bankers, who have offices in 30 countries and offer services to some 40,000 clients with assets of $3 million or more. Citibank officials declined to comment directly on the Senate subcommittee's investigation, which follows several other government probes. Raul Salinas was arrested by Mexican authorities in 1995 and imprisoned on charges of masterminding the killing of a top ruling-party official. That year the U.S. Justice Department began investigating Citibank's handling of Salinas' money in an effort to determine whether the bank violated any laws. A report in December 1998 by congressional investigators found that Citibank transferred as much as $100 million in suspected drug proceeds for Raul Salinas in 1992-94. The report, by the General Accounting Office, Congress' investigative arm, criticized Citibank for failing to check the source of the money. The report found that Salinas' wife hand-carried checks to Citibank Mexico, and they were transferred to Switzerland through a series of complex transactions that hid their source. Rumors abounded at the time that Salinas was linked to drug lords and had dubious sources of income, but Citibank executives asked few questions when the transactions were made, the report said. Citibank has said the report "contains errors of fact and interpretation." The bank, which has denied breaking any laws, pledged its full cooperation with law enforcement authorities. In addition to Citibank, the Senate committee investigators have also looked into an episode at BankBoston Corp. in which former bank executive Ricardo Carrasco, a Uruguayan citizen, was accused of embezzling $73 million by making fraudulent loans in private banking transactions. Fox News, November 7, 1999 Electronic Money ECB Wants More Control Over
[CTRL] MS is...
-Caveat Lector- AWOSOME article! MS is band of... Well, you what I mean. http://www.theregister.co.uk/991105-21.html DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Texas Children's Protective Services under Democratic Gov Ann...
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are 5 chapters in my new book, "Sold Out: The Clinton Legacy" (due for release in December), about the Branch Davidians. I don't know if what's been said on here about Texas DPS workers is accurate or not, but I can verify that it was a female who "investigated" the Davidians, and reported that she believed Koresh was molesting some of the girls there. She couldn't prove anything, but she "suspected" molestation. However, when the head of Pediatric Psychiatry at Baylor U. Medical Ctr evaluated the girls who'd been released from Mt. Carmel, he reported that he found no evidence of molestation. Rather, he said, he believed the girls had witnessed sexual relations between men and women at Mt. Carmel. Funny thing, Janet Reno was aware of his report when she ordered CS gas to be used on the compound, ostensibly because "children were being molested there." Several years ago I spoke at the annual conference of VOCAL (Victims of Child Abuse Laws) in Dallas. I was there as a lawyer, and I told the members how to go about suing the government for civil rts violations (under 42 USC Sec. 1983, et seq.). At the meeting I heard horror story after horror story about the Texas DPS, and how many of the social workers employed by the Dept engineered something called "shop talk", as a means of justifying their bureaucratic existences. In other words, in the interest of keeping their jobs (and thus their retirements) intact, they would generate information based on speculation and supposition. One lie would build on another until the children were removed from their families. I believe the DPS worker who went to Mt Carmel may have tried that too. According to people at Elohim City (the cult compound in eastern Okla where Timothy McVeigh was known to hang out on occasion, and where I'm convinced the bombing was planned), a former Marine Recon ranger appeared there in late 1992, and said that he'd worked as a CIA assassin in Central Amer for the past 5 yrs but was sick and tired of killing people. The man, in his mid-20s, left in December '92 for a "safe house" outside Waco, Texas. How safe was it? Do you realize that many of the dead at Mt Carmel have never been identified. Odom --- ONElist Sponsor GRAB THE GATOR! FREE SOFTWARE DOES ALL THE TYPING FOR YOU! Tired of filling out forms and remembering passwords? Gator fills in forms and passwords with just one click! Comes with $50 in free coupons! a href=" http://clickme.onelist.com/ad/gator4 "Click Here/a
[CTRL] King George's Reply to Thomas Jefferson
-Caveat Lector- .. Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Book Search Co-ordinator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: King George's Reply to Thomas Jefferson Date: Sunday, November 07, 1999 8:38 PM Excellent! -Original Message- From: Edward Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, November 07, 1999 5:38 PM Subject: [Reality_Pump] George's Reply to Thomas' Memo King George III's Responce to The Declaration Of Independence The Court of King George III London, England July 10, 1776 Mr. Thomas Jefferson c/o The Continental Congress Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Dear Mr. Jefferson: We have read your "Declaration of Independence" with great interest. Certainly, it represents a considerable undertaking, and many of your statements do merit serious consideration. Unfortunately, the Declaration as a whole fails to meet recently adopted specifications for proposals to the Crown, so we must return the document to you for further refinement. The questions which follow might assist you in your process of revision: 1. In your opening paragraph you use the phrase the "Laws of Nature and Nature's God." What are these laws? In what way are they the criteria on which you base your central arguments? Please document with citations from the recent literature. 2. In the same paragraph you refer to the "opinions of mankind." Whose polling data are you using? Without specific evidence, it seems to us the "opinions of mankind" are a matter of opinion. 3. You hold certain truths to be "self-evident" . Could you please elaborate. If they are as evident as you claim then it should not be difficult for you to locate the appropriate supporting statistics. 4. "Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" seem to be the goals of your proposal. These are not measurable goals. If you were to say that among these is the ability to sustain an average life expectancy in six of the 13 colonies of at last 55 years, and to enable newspapers in the colonies to print news without outside interference, and to raise the average income of the colonists by 10 percent in the next 10 years, these could be measurable goals. Please clarify. 5. You state that "Whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new Government" Have you weighed this assertion against all the alternatives? What are the trade-off considerations? 6. Your description of the existing situation is quite extensive. Such a long list of grievances should precede the statement of goals, not follow it. Your problem statement needs improvement. 7. Your strategy for achieving your goal is not developed at all. You state that the colonies ought to be Free and Independent States, and that they are "Absolved from All Allegiance to the British Crown." Who or what must change to achieve this objective? In what way must they change? What specific steps will you take to overcome the resistance? How long will it take? We have found that a little foresight in these areas helps to prevent careless errors later on. How cost-effective are your strategies? 8. Who among the list of signatories will be responsible for implementing your strategy? Who conceived it? Who provided the theoretical research? Who will constitute the advisory committee? Please submit an organization chart and vitas of the principal investigators. 9. You must include an evaluation design. We have been requiring this since Queen Anne's War. 10. What impact will your problem have? .Your failure to include any assessment of this inspires little confidence in the long-range prospects of your undertaking. 11. Please submit a PERT diagram, an activity chart, itemized budget, and manpower utilization matrix. We hope that these comments prove useful in revising your "Declaration of Independence." We welcome the submission of your revised proposal. Our due date for unsolicited proposals is July 31, 1776. Ten copies with original signatures will be required. Sincerely, Management Analyst to the British Crown (From Laughnet) "From the rage of today's downtrodden comes the revenge of tomorrow's revolutionary force. " Edward Britton + http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5285/connector1.html Reality Pump: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/Reality_Pump2 Imagine a credit card with a 0% Intro APR and Instant Approval It seems impossible, but its not. Visit GetSmart.coms Credit Card Finder and click on instant approval cards right now at http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/1272 Join the move to end modern-day slavery. Check out (http://members.xoom.com/abolitionist) for more details -- eGroup Home:
Re: [CTRL] Students Are Following the President's Example - A Lib eral ...
-Caveat Lector- Amen! I've heard it said that we need a better world for our children, when actually we need better children for the world. Jamie \And if everyone in America paid as much attention to the children as \they do to Clinton's sex life, everyone's children would be much better \off. \Tenorlove, \whose children are, under her watchful eye, doing their math: I gave \them the results of yesterday's DuraLube 500 auto race as raw data: the \name of each driver, how many laps he completed, and his total time. We \already know the race was 500 miles. With this data, they are \calculating each driver's average speed. After math, we will make lunch \together (soup/salad/sandwich), then go out spend the afternoon \raking leaves. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Green Ribbon Anti-Prohibition Campaign
-Caveat Lector- from; http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/4756/grc.html Click Here: A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/4756/grc.html"Green Ribbon Anti-Prohibition Campaign/A - GREEN RIBBON ANTIPROHIBITION CAMPAIGN Are you Evil, Stupid, or Against Prohibition? "Once everything not expressly legal is prohibited, everything not prohibited becomes mandatory." If prohibition ended today, would you start using drugs? If you wanted to try them, would the law against them stop you? Does the law stop anyone who is currently violating prohibition? When is the last time you heard of a liquor store owner caught at a schoolyard offering kids their first bottle for free? Prohibition is based on the myth that, if it didn't exist, then everyone would become addicted to something like drugs, sex, or gambling, and civiliztion would crumble. Guess what folks, it is prohibition itself that is making civilization crumble. It is prohibition itself that perpetuates the cycle of addiction, corruption, and violence. Addiction is created not by a substance but by artificial scarcity (prohibition) of it. Removing the profit motive and banning advertising can prevent young people from being intoduced to drugs. Adults seldom become addicted. Taxation would provide funds for effective early medical intervention to thwart the few naturally occurring cases of addiction. Research into genetics indicates that there are biochemical and physiological variations in humans that predispose different people to different predelictions. This strongly suggests that legalization would not lead to an increase in addictions since people so predisposed are probably already self-medicating despite the existence of prohibition. The overwhelming majority not predisposed to addiction will not find drugs at all alluring. Prohibition is a form of genetic persecution on par with Racism. Laws or willpower or pshchological therapy has no effect on the small segment of the population that is prone to true addiction. Most of these people would have no trouble leading productive lives if they weren't forced into crime or prostitution to support their 'abnormal', yet certainly not evil, biochemical limitations. These people are not genetically predisposed to crime or violence. Only to chemical imbalance similar to bipolar disease. They cannot be treated as criminals by any civilized society or legal system. Prohibition diverts potential tax many times over to organized crime and funds government corruption. Prohibition is simply the IRS for the Mob. And the Mob runs TV and mainstream media. It runs the CIA. It runs banking, industry, science, ...you name it. After 50 years of complicity between Organized Crime, the National Security Council, and residual elements of the Nazis, just about everything is owned on paper by a terrifyingly small group of people. Many of them are familiar and ostensibly respectible like George Bush, Donald Grieg, Ronald Regan, William Clinton, Henry Kissinger, Allan Dulles, William Casey, Casper Weinberger, and Oliver North. Former President Salinas of Mexico, Manuel Noriega, Samosa, etc., etc., etc. Jailing all of those people and their co-conspirators, confiscating their illegally acquired property, and convicting them of High Treason is what should be done according to the prohibition laws these very people have been shoving down our throats. But is that ever going to happen? Never in your wildest pipedream. The only thing we still can and MUST do, is abolish prohibition, and end state secrecy. It isn't too late, yet. Prohibition and Secrecy, not legalization, are the 'experiments' and they have failed miserably, my friends. Legalization with regulation, taxation, education, and therapeutic intervention is not an experiment. It is the only sane and civilized policy, and it has always worked everywhere for millennia. It would be foolish to deny that, on the surface, making drugs, gambling, and prostitution illegal seems to be a reasonable way of controlling their consumption, for the betterment of the overall quality of life. Unfortunately, reality is not so simple. It is not an open ended proposition. Meaning "what goes around comes around." We cannot unjustly prosecute (persecute) an otherwise productive, law abiding, and, intrinsically harmless segment of the population without ultimately doing harm to ourselves. They will, and do fight back. With violent street crime. Theft. Burglary. Extortion. Money
[CTRL] Thompson Hammers Reno:Again
-Caveat Lector- www.devvy.com/waco_19990901a.html A HREF="http://www.devvy.com/waco_19990901a.html"General Janet The Flame Thrower Reno/A Mr. Thompson has an excellent video available on General Janet The Flame Thrower Reno. You might call his office to learn how to obtain a copy. I purchased mine back in '93/'94 time period, loaned it out and never got it back so I don't have a source on it at the moment. By the way, in case you aren't aware of this little fact, I'll pass it along: General Stonewall Reno was confirmed by the United States Senate 98-0 without an FBI background investigation. Thank you Democrats and Republicans in the Senate. Oh, I forgot - you did it for the children. Devvy Kidd John B. Thompson, Attorney 1172 South Dixie Highway, Suite 111 Coral Gables, Florida 33146 Phone: 305-666-4366 August 24, 1999 The Honorable Walter Smith United States District Court Waco, Texas VIA E-MAIL Re: Information Pertaining to the Branch Davidian Wrongful Death Action Dear Judge Smith: I hestitate to intrude regarding the above, but I am privy to certain information that may lead to the discovery of admissible evidence that may help inform the jury as to why the unfortunate deaths in Waco at the Branch Davidian compound occurred. Today's reportage of an FBI Agent's statement that pyrotechnic grenades were actually used prompts me to approach Your Honor. May I first note that I am rated "A/V" by Martindale-Hubbell, so I do not make any assertions herein lightly and unmindful of the consequences should they not be true. Secondly, I am record counsel in the much-publicized federal lawsuit filed in Paducah, Kentucky, in April of this year on behalf of the parents of the three girls shot and killed in the school shootings there. Having been on 60 Minutes, Today, CNN, Fox, ABC World News Tonight, and NBC Nightly News, largely because our suit was filed before the Littleton massacre and predicted it, because of the commonality of the entertainment products involved, I am not looking for publicity in that or any other matter. I have plenty to contend with. I am providing this information because I believe it my duty as an officer of the court. Further, I am a Christian who understands that I do not have the luxury or privilege of falsely defaming anyone. But I do know and can prove the following: I was the last Republican to run against now Attorney General Janet Reno, having been her opponent in the general election of 1988 for the office of Dade County (Florida) State Attorney. Janet Reno was then and is now a chronic alcoholic, so inebriated at times during office hours that she would pass out at her desk here in Miami. There were five police officers ready, willing, and able to testify at her Senate confirmation hearings for the office of A.G. that they pulled her over on five separate occasions for drunk driving while she was State Attorney. Another individual and I were approached by the Senate Judiciary Committee with this information. I have spoken with another officer regarding similar conduct by Ms. Reno. After Waco, I was called by senior political reporter David Johnston of the New York Times, who told me of Reno's drunkenness while she was A.G. I could go on about this problem she has, including its interplay with her Parkinson's symptoms, but the point is that Ms. Reno was probably "out of it" when the decision to make the incursion into the compound was made. She wasn't operating a vehicle while drunk; she was operating a Department of Justice while drunk. Secondly, and related to what I understand may be some issues in the case before you, Janet Reno has a very, very, very long history of making up, out of whole cloth, child abuse and sexual child abuse allegations in order to burnish her reputation as a child rights advocate. Dorothy Rabinowitz of the The Wall Street Journal, arguably the dean of all American newpaper editorialists, exposed this habit of hers, which habit helped secure a long-standing and completely fabricated criminal conviction of a South Miami police officer, Grant Snowden. Also, senior editor of Readers Digest, Trevor Armbrister, also exposed Reno on this propensity to make these things up, thereby crushing innocent people with false child abuse claims. I say all this as someone who myself has been a child rights advocate who has represented sex abuse victims. This is relevant because you will recall that Ms. Reno, the night of the incursion into the compound, stated categorically on Larry King Live on CNN that the assault occurred in order to save the children from this abuse.She has since had to admit that no such proof ever existed. She knew at the time that this was a fabrication. She was not mistaken. She knew she was making it up. She has built a career upon making such allegations up. I believe what I and others can show, then, is that Reno was most likely impaired by alcohol abuse at the time of the Waco assault, and further that she knew there was absolutely
[CTRL] (Fwd) Meet the President in Cyberspace - Tonight!
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[CTRL] Morning Eye Opener
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[CTRL] Ban All Guns!
-Caveat Lector- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 06:53:52 + Subject: Ban All Guns! Ban All Guns! by JIM HOUCK citizensofamerica.org armed American Creative Director, Citizens of America In regards to Josh Sugarman's article in the New York Times calling for the banning of handguns, I must say, I concur. We should ban pistols. In fact, we should ban all firearms. Just like we did drugs. It will make getting firearms a lot easier; no background checks, no fingerprints, no serials numbers, no tractability, no illegal retention of files by the BATF, no waiting periods, no questions asked, cash on the barrel head, delivered to your door 24/7, just like banned drugs. And it would eliminate the guesswork for the 500,000 paroled or otherwise released murderers walking the streets of America today. Not to mention the paroled rapists. They will be virtually sure their victims won't be able to maim or kill them in self defense. Like Sammy Gravano, convicted mob assassin said, " "Gun control? It's the best thing you can do for crooks and gangsters. I want you to have nothing. If I'm a bad guy, I'm always gonna have a gun." From the mouth of the expert. One need only travel to any country in the world with civilian firearms bans (and there is no other kind as criminals love "gun control") and see that the only people with firearms are the criminals, the cops (protection of the State) and the military. Great Britain has gun control and it opened the market to the KLA to sell their fully automatic (read properly defined "assault weapon") rifles on the streets right under the Queen's nose. Germany has gun control and I personally have seen German citizens proudly showing off their fully automatic AK-47's which they laughingly acquired for $70 and a phone call. They even offered to get me one. I have personally lived in Japan. Getting a firearm there takes less than two hours of asking around and roughly $50 American dollars or the equivalent in Japanese yen. "Real gun control" as our ignorant little Sugarman puts it, is a farce and one of America's most ruthless killers. Sammy Gravano nailed it on the head and would nail Josh Sugarman on the head as well if told to do so by his mob bosses. And when Gravano arrived, Sugarman would be unarmed, and dead. If he was lucky, there would be some media coverage of his death used to forward his weak-hearted charge which is, don't stand up for yourself and defend your life against a criminal, let them have their way with you, let them rip you to shreds and whatever you do, don't pull a gun on them and drop them in the tracks. At best, call 911 and see if the police decide to respond, as they are not required by law to do so. And then if they do, see if they can get there in time to prevent the murder which is already in progress. The day a Sammy Gravano comes calling on Josh Sugarman, he'd better hope an American like myself happens to be within shooting distance because with an average of one on-duty police officer for every 8,500 Americans, his chances of being next to a cop (and I think the murderer would simply wait, if he were, don't you?) are virtually zero. I prefer to take the police approach to stopping murderers, head splitters and rapists and carry a firearm. A semi- automatic firearm with a high-capacity magazine, in the largest caliber, hardest hitting round I can shoot and shoot well with. Considering that the civilian shooting error rate numbers show that civilians with firearms are more than five times safer than American police officers, my civilian firearm represents a very good way to stay alive, Josh, and I've used it twice to stop criminal attacks in New Orleans. Apologies for denying you the media hype job of "another victim of a senseless crime, but I felt like living. When was the last time you saw a crime of sense? Feel free to disarm yourself, Josh. Gun control advocates like your friends Feinstein, Schumer and Clinton all have armed bodyguards, in case you were unaware. What's with all the assault weapons and Saturday Night Specials and sniper rifles, Josh? What are the politicians afraid of? Can't they just call 911? You hear about the "wild west" days. I grew up in Kansas on a cattle ranch. We were all armed, as were our neighbors. We didn't lock our doors. Nobody stole kids. Nobody robbed anybody. Nobody raped anybody. In short we never had a problem with weak-kneed criminals because they didn't want to get shot. Don't forget it was armed civilians, not police, who put down the dreaded Dalton Gang. In the "wild west" the only thing that was wild by today's ridiculous, shallow-gut standards was the average American's sincere belief that their life was worth defending. After just one year of "gun control" in Australia, the citizens are enjoying a 300% increase in homicide with a firearm, (seems the murderers forgot to turn in their firearms) in the state of Victoria, alone.
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Vol. 15, No. 24
November 22, 1999
Global Gun Grab
by Thomas R. Eddlem
Its open season on the right to keep and bear arms as UN globocrats gear up
for international gun controls.
The United Nations is very troubled that the United States has retained its
Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which guarantees that "the right of
the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." Radical new UN
proposals treat free people with the means to effect their own self-defense as
a vital threat to the United Nations and its quest for what it calls the "peace-
building process."
More troubling still is the fact that for the first time this radical UN agenda
represents a clear and present danger to our right to keep and bear arms. This
is in part because the Clinton State Department is collaborating with the UN
and its proposals. But another, perhaps more dangerous, prong of the UN attack
on the right to keep and bear arms comes from an insidious quasi-private
institution heavily funded by socialist Northern European governments. This
little-known, UN-backed organization charges itself with developing "message
strategies" and "campaigning and advocacy strategies" to obtain a UN-managed
global ban on the private ownership of firearms.
Anti-Gun Agenda
The United Nations "Report of the Group of Governmental Experts on Small Arms"
issued on August 19th bitterly complains that "there are wide differences among
States [nations] as regards which types of arms are permitted for civilian
possession, and as regards the circumstances under which they can legitimately
be owned, carried and used. Such wide variation in national laws raise
difficulties for effective regional or international coordination." That the UN
"experts" are complaining mainly about the United States is made clear from the
concluding recommendations in the report. Among the "coordination" proposals
adopted by the panel enthusiastically seconded by UN Secretary-General Kofi
Annan in his foreword to the report are the following:
"All States should ensure that they have in place adequate laws, regulations
and administrative procedures to exercise effective control over the legal
possession of small arms and light weapons and over their transfer"
"States are encouraged to integrate measures to control ammunition"
"States should work toward
the prohibition of unrestricted trade and
private ownership of small arms and light weapons"
The UN report defines small arms to include just about every category of
firearms that exists: "The category of small arms includes revolvers and self-
loading pistols, rifles and carbines, sub-machine guns, assault rifles and
light machine guns." The United Nations call for banning even hunting rifles
and antique revolvers from civilian possession demonstrates the radical and
groundbreaking nature of the report.
Though the current United Nations attack on the Second Amendment fails to take
aim at civilian possession of shotguns, shotgun owners should find no security
in the current UN focus. The UN report in no way limits global firearms
restrictions to "military"-related firearms such as "revolvers" and "rifles."
The UN "experts" explain that the United Nations must deal with firearms on
social as well as military criteria: "Virtually every part of the United
Nations system is dealing in one way or another with the consequences of the
armed conflicts, insecurity, violence, crime, social disruption, displaced
peoples and human suffering that are directly or indirectly associated with the
wide availability and the use of these weapons."
To implement their gun control measures, UN officials plan to ignore the
reservation of national sovereignty guaranteed in the UN Charter the same way
that the U.S. Congress often ignores the 10th Amendment to the U.S.
Constitution. The UN Charter bans UN intervention in "matters which are
essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of any state," but the UN is no
longer concerned with legal niceties. Annan explained in his September 22nd
address before the UN General Assembly that "state sovereignty, in its most
basic sense, is being redefined A new, broader definition of national
interest is needed in the new century [where] the collective interest is the
national interest." In Annans view, the "collective interest" mandates that
Americans and other peoples of the world should not own firearms and that the
UN should be the key organ charged with collecting them. Annan emphasized in a
September 24th speech that "controlling the easy availability of small arms is
a prerequisite for a successful peace-building process," which is why the
"United Nations has played a leading role in putting the issue of small arms
firmly on the international agenda."
UN control over a global movement to ban private firearms ownership has already
begun. According to a
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Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links - Satan
-Caveat Lector- Didn't Bowie actually *play* an alien in a movie somewhere around 1970? -Original Message- From: Das GOAT [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 10:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links - Satan -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-11-05 04:35:44 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well I'm glad we cleared all that up. So is David Bowie one of Satan's puppets or not? Aside from Bowie having been, like a few other British rockers, immersed in Crowleyite, OTO-style occultism** in the '60s, he was THE pioneer of "androgyny" (to the point of sexually conjugating with Mick Jagger) and THE pioneer of the "alien" look on stage. snip DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello EarthChangers. I recently sent a communication about the ancient site that was found under the water near the island of Malta. I have pasted it at the bottom of this e-mail. I have also pasted below a recent "Code Gang" communication. In the excerpts below, Maurice Chatelain mentions the Crusaders. The Knights Templar, of course, were Crusaders, and are associated with the legends of the Holy Grail. They are also associated with the island of Malta. One of the major symbols of the Knights Templar was the Maltese Cross. To find a diagram of it, go here: A HREF="http://www.symbols.com/"SYMBOLS.com -- encyclopedia of Western signs and ideograms/A http://www.symbols.com/ You can find it with a word search. The above web site offers a free download of the symbols, which I find quite handy. Regards, Joe Mason A HREF="http://www.greatdreams.com/gem1.htm"CODE OF THE ANCIENTS/A http://www.greatdreams.com/gem1.htm ~ Subj: Malta Site, The Flood The Maltese Cross in the Agean Sea Date: 11/8/1999 3:34:23 AM Pacific Standard Time From: JMason4557 In a message dated 11/2/1999 4:59:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, M writes: Subj:Re: [M-TRAC - MSAA] Ancient underwater structures discovered near Malta On 1 Nov 99, at 20:28, Al Cornett wrote: JJ:If professor Zeitlmar could accurately date these structures then we may better pin point the date of the flood and of course that would seemingly date the arrival(maybe), of Nibiru. AC (snip) [Michael responds] But ... there may be more to consider, here. It might be, according to Laurence Gardner's work, that "The Flood" happened around 4000 B.C. ... whereas the last 'Pole Shift of Earth' ... also with accompanying catastrophic conditions ... occurred apparently around 11000 B.C. (snip) --- [from Joe Mason] Dear Michael and all, There is one more thing to consider. Some years ago I saw a TV program about the theory that a flood of water from the ocean created the Mediterranean Sea far back in history. Maurice Chatelain spoke about this in his book, "Our Ancestors Came From Outer Space." It is on page 75, in a chapter titled, "The Maltese Cross." I'll type in some excerpts: All the legends of Mediterranean people mention the cataclysmic variations in the level of the sea and the eruption of a volcano on the island of Thera, probably in about 1500 B.C., or 3,500 years ago. The explosion and the following tidal waves destroyed the Minoan civilization. Many islands around Crete disappeared under water and the bottom of the sea caved in. The conquest of the Aegean Islands by Mycenaeans from Greece followed. But before this catastrophe, about 12,000 years ago, there was the really big one - the flooding of the Gibraltar Strait by the Atlantic Ocean, and the sudden rise of the Mediterranean Sea level by at least 200 m, or 600 ft. (skip) When the isthmus of Gibraltar gave way to the pressure of the Atlantic because some cosmic event caused the northern polar ice cap to melt and raised the level of the oceans, all the coastal lines of Greece and its islands were inundated and whole civilizations disappeared. -- Chatelain's Maltese Cross is also worth mentioning here. Some excerpts: -- In the center of the Aegean Sea exists a small island by the name of Delos. It has always been considered the most sacred place of ancient Greece, even though no one seemed to know why, of all places, Delos should be so sacred. (skip) Delos is the geometric center of a true design of the gods - the Maltese cross of majestic proportions that extends over hundreds of miles over the Aegean Sea, Greece, and Turkey. (skip) Let's put the sharp point of one compass arm in the middle of Delos and measure a radius of 1,500 ancient Egyptian stadia, or 270 km, and run the trace arm of the compass full circle. We will have passed in succession through Cape Matapan and Delphi in Greece; the island of Psathura in Northern Sporades; Antandrus and Sardis in Anatolia; Camirus on Rhodes; and Akra and Araden on Crete. Now let's trace a smaller circle with Delos still in the center. A radius of 1,000 Egyptian stadia or 180 km, will give a ring that connects Hermione in Greece; a high bank between the islands of Lesbos and Skyros; Didyma in Anatolia; and a point now submerged north of the Dia Island. Thus, if we include Delos, we have thirteen geographical sites that have always been sacred places marked by temple ruins constructed over even more ancient ruins from time immemorial. Thirteen has always been a magic number for astrological reasons. (skip) When we connect all the sites with straight lines going from point to point . . . (skip) . . .we have drawn the magnificent geometrical figure known as the "Maltese cross," a sacred pagan sign since antiquity as well as the sign of the Crusaders who fought to liberate Jerusalem from the Infidels. Indeed, the designs of the
Re: [CTRL] Mind Control - Subliminal Sound
-Caveat Lector- hi Steve, all, I posted the patent description to a VERY scientific list I'm on [missing out the 'conspiracy stuff' - and one of the eminent scientists on it from sweden who is into cutting edge neural brain biology didn't buy it. He and this list has a personal interest in finding working versions of such technology with which to prolong their lives what he did have to say didn't exclude the possibility of the mechanism identifying sexuality and mucking about with our sex drives in some crude way however ! This is what Anders had to say Hope for Uploaders - Emotions allegedly stored and replicated could this system be used to educate the neural nets of a fresh personal Clone ?? I'm very sceptical, this sounds too much like a crackpot project to me. Some reasons for suspicion are the idea that sound waves directly can influence the brain (no evidence for that that I know of) and the claims about "emotion signature clusters" - if there was any good way of distinguishing between emotional states it would be headline news in parts of the neuroscience world I keep up to date with. In reality EEG doesn't tell you much about emotional state other than arousal, since most of the emotional information seems to be highly individual and usually mostly subcortical. I might be wrong of course, but I wouldn't invest in that company... Andrew Hennessey DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Bowie and the occult
-Caveat Lector- This is three post on Bowie and the occult http://www.cyberlink.ch/%7Ekoenig/bowie.htm Interviewer: Exactly how true is the story you can't remember making "Station to Station"? Bowie: "Very true. I would say a lot of the time I spent in America in the '70s is really hard to remember ... in a way that I've not seen happen to too many other artists. I was flying out there -- really in a bad way. So I listen to 'Station to Station' as a piece of work by an entirely different person. "Firstly, there's the content, which nobody's actually been clear about; I've never read a review that actually sussed it. "The 'Station to Station' track itself is very much concerned with the stations of the Cross. All the references within the piece are to do with the Kabbalah. It's the nearest thing to a magickal treatise that I've written. It's an extremely dark album ..." Q, February 1997 http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~rpodolsk/q.html "I used to sing along with Bowie on Ziggy Stardust** "I could make it all worthwhile as a rock 'n roll star [but] I chose Magick as a path. "Through experiences beautiful and terrifying, I have come to understand the human condition as but one aspect of a continuum of consciousness ... For me, the universe is NUIT, a living Entity with whom I interact, through fleeting streams of energy ..." [**The author, A. Livingstone (a pseudonym) is a British member of the OTO who specializes in Chaos working and theory. He has written books about Magick.] http://www.sacred-texts.com/bos/bos274.htm Chaos Magick vs. Thelema by Alistair Livingstone Inspired, no doubt foolishly, by a new moon and the Cramps' "Psychedelic Jungle," I have decided to enter the Thelema vs Chaos debate. This is of course an impossible task, which is no doubt why it appeals to me. Firstly, what is it that distinguishes Thelma from Chaos? In "Starfire," Mick Staley attempts to distinguish Thelema from Crowleyanity. Thelema, he suggested, pre-existed Crowley`s formulation of it. This immediately causes problems, since for the majority of magicians, Crowley = Thelema. But if it can be accepted that there is a something which exists independently of Crowley`s writings, then it must be this something (Thelema) which is to be contrasted with Chaos Magick. The core of this something, I suggest, is the Will. Is this idea of the Will in any way opposed to Chaos? What is Chaos then? For the purposes of this argument I will interpret Chaos as follows: that the familiar world of everyday experience has its roots in Chaos. So that any attempt to understand the world via reason reaches a boundary, on the other side of which lies Chaos, a state of existence/non-existence which cannot be understood by the rational ego. However, through the techniques of ritual, that state can be manifest in the everyday world, suspending the accepted "laws" of common sense and allowing magick to occur. Furthermore, perhaps as a result of the practice Chaos magick, the idea of Chaos is slowly entering the popular imagination via science. This refutes classical science, which is based on the belief that if the structure of the physical world could be sufficiently precisely modelled in a mathematical form, it would be possible to predict the future state of various systems (wheather, for example) which make up the physical world. However, it is now grudgingly admitted that this would require a precision of measurement which it is impossible to achieve. Engineers have long since had to accept this uncertainty - that all measurement is limited by the accuracy of the measuring device. Absolute precision is an impossible goal. There is always a degree of uncertainty, an instability, and by focusing the Will upon this either/or region, the magician can exert an influence upon the world at this level, which when it occurs, can produce the Willed outcome. To the extent that Chaos is a form of magick, ie. it seeks to exert an influence upon the world of erveryday consciousness, it must involve the Will. Otherwise it would be closer to a form of mysticism, that is the attempt to "go with the flow" of the experienced world without seeking to influence the direction of that flow. In this form, Chaos is closer to a "higher form of order" that is that the apparent random or chance events of one`s experience of existence are in fact the result of some greater existence than that of the individual. And that by disengaging the desires of the ego-self, one can experience this greater existence, interpreting the obstacles and blows of everyday existence as a stimulus to the development of a "Stoic" consciousness, which will enable the self to eventually swimm freely as a fish in the river of the Tao, or Chaos. 1241 The idea which this is based on tends to be that of the hermit, the forest sage of Hinduism, the solitary adept of High Magick. No doubt if it was
Re: [CTRL] [3] Trust No One, Mr. Hoagland
-Caveat Lector- Dear Kris Millegan (and all), I have found your three part article very interesting and credible. In it you have raised the prospect near the end of part 3 that these evil people are in a panic. Which of course they are. I quote the relevant passage:- "Their complete disregard for whom may be watching and tracking their bizarre ritual killings is either a sign of the security of arrogance, or the desperation of panic. It is this second possibility which has us the most concerned. If this was indeed a ritual sacrifice, there is really only one reason to perform such an act. Upon recognizing the signs that a great change or cataclysm is coming, one may try to 'steal the magic' that is in the air for your own personal protection. By sacrificing some of your own to the angry god, Set/Encke in this case, you can appease him and perhaps have yourself spared from what ever is coming down." The simple reason for that panic is that their boss Lucifer (aka Satan) is terrified that his plot to prevent me from recovering The Ark and set up his NWO is about to fail. Satan knows that, once I recover The Ark, his deception is finished and consequently his control of the Conspirators and the (his) Conspiracy (the NWO) will be defeated. Whilst what you have said, about the manufactured sacrificial "Killing" of Egypt-Air flight 990 using ELF weapons, is obviously true and that it might be, to many of them, a sacrifice to their non-existent gods, in order to try to save their own worthless evil lives, I suggest that you should consider, not how and the numerology involved, but - as Man X, played by Donald Sutherland, in the film JFK said, Whilst everyone is concerned with how. No-one is asking the obvious question - Why? If; as they definitely are; in a panic, then they would have to send a coded-message to all their people around the world; without having the message overheard, or intercepted and understood by anyone outside their cabal as happened in 1784, before the French Revolution; that it is time to move on to the next phase of their plan. Others as well as you have been speculating that Mossad are going to be blamed for the crash, leading to an Arab backlash against Israel, which of course is also possibly the beginning of the next phase. We shall see. I will repeat myself and explain that you are all so busy watching the play unfold that you are missing your opportunity to stop it, by helping me to recover The Ark. Peace be upon you, JAH. - Original Message - From: Kris Millegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 4:55 PM Subject: [CTRL] [3] "Trust No One, Mr. Hoagland" -Caveat Lector- from: http://www.enterprisemission.com/egyptair.htm Click Here: A HREF="http://www.enterprisemission.com/egyptair.htm"Enterprise Mission - Will 'X' Mark the Date?: P./A - The Enterprise Mission "Trust No One, Mr. Hoagland" Part 3 of ? "This was no boating accident!" - Richard Dreyfus, "Jaws" - 1975 CONTACT INFORMATION: MICHAEL BARA [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Note - I am not able to respond to all e-mails, but I will read them -- MB) RICHARD C. HOAGLAND - The Enterprise Mission P. O. Box 1130 Placitas NM 87043 FAX - (505) 771-0820 © 1999 THE ENTERPRISE MISSION Egypt Air logo of Horus the Falcon god. The crash of Egypt Air flight 990 out of New York in the early morning hours of October 31st, 1999 has sparked a huge amount of interest and speculation in both the general media and in relation to our "November 7th" scenario. While the early trend of the news is to point at the thrust reversers as the most likely culprit, we have uncovered a wealth of information that has led us to conclude that not only is the situation more complex than the media is willing to acknowledge, it is also far more ominous for our own circumstantial case vis-à-vis the 7th. In fact, the story is so flush with symbolic linkages and data anomalies that it may never be satisfactorily explained. Much like the case of TWA 800, Egypt Air 990 appears destined never to rest fully in peace. Like that storied ghost ship out of New York from three summers ago, there are just too many conflicts between what is the clear direction of the "official" investigation and the facts. Let one of us [Mike Bara] start by relating my own expertise in this field, such as it is. I was employed by Boeing as a structural designer for more than 14 years, and worked on every major commercial (and some military) vehicle that the company produced, including the 767. I also spent some time on the 767 engine program in the Power Plant and Strut group. In addition, my father worked at Boeing for more than 43 years, much of it spent in crash investigation and more than 20 years in material fire safety. On many occasions, he
[CTRL] Histroical Revision Suppression in Electronics theories? THE POLITICS OF KNOWLEDGE; lecture by Ivor Catt.
-Caveat Lector- It's long, it's heresy. Good reading ! Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart South Place Ethical Society Conway Hall Humanist Centre 25 Red Lion Square, London WC1R 4RL ( 0171 831 7723 THE POLITICS OF KNOWLEDGE Ivor Catt Lecture to the Ethical Society, 24 March 1996 Published in The Ethical Record, June 1996. Tel. 0171 831 7723 In a letter in Wireless World, Nov. 1981, J.L. Linsley Hood writes that "censorship has been effective throughout my own professional career". He lists nine authors who could not have been published anywhere else but in Wireless World. There is usually no conspiracy to suppress heretical ideas. There is no need of one, except in some specific instances, because as Charles McCutcheon wrote in the New Scientist (itself a notorious suppressor, but not as bad as Nature) on 29 April 1976, p225, "An evolved conspiracy" suffices. A pivotal event in science was the Michelson-Morley experiment in the 1880's. I ran into a discussion in the interval at the Royal Institution seminar to celebrate the centenary of the Michelson-Morley experiment. An American who was setting up an international conference on relativity discussed with Prof. Kilmister, one of the lecturers, whether ether buffs should be suppressed at that conference. He also asked how Harold Aspden should be dealt with. That is, he was discussing how to suppress a specific dissident. They concluded that if ether believers kept to Establishment mathematics they should be allowed to put their case. The American, who told me that he was a born-again Christian and had previously been evil, said that he regarded heresy in science much as he regarded heresy in religion. More generally, suppression in science results from fear that a new idea will obstruct the normal, calm progression of academic career progress and research funding. Suppression is the norm rather than the exception. Even Maddox, editor of Nature, who gave the Ethical Society's Voltaire Lecture on 18th November 1995, now says he is worried. Maddox says that suppression is increasing. The Daily Telegraph of 1 May 1989 quotes him; "The epoch making paper by Francis Crick and James Watson outlining the structure of DNA, which appeared in Nature in 1953, would 'probably not be publishable today', Maddox laments". That is Maddox, the greatest suppressor of all, joining the band-waggon of concern about suppression. With his track record, that is mind-blowing. Scientists have successfully resorted to false authorship (Theocharis), and Lovelock, the inventor of "Gaia", said on radio that he resorted to a false address to get into Nature. The most interesting, and most destructive, aspect is the pandemic suppression of advances relating to the AIDS epidemic. Other experts specialise in the allied subject of fraud in science. Stewart and Feder lead this field. My first publication on suppression in science was "The Rise and Fall of Bodies of Knowledge", published in The Information Scientist No. 12 (4), Dec. 1978, pp137-144, where I discuss some of the cases of suppression which litter science. My article was re-published in my book "Electromagnetic Theory vol 1", 1979, p. 117. All of the content of that book is suppressed, including the point I raised at the Michelson-Morley centenary seminar, asking about the apparent paradox in their experiment that although Michelson-Morley pre-date wave/particle dualism, both wave and particle have to be assumed at different stages in the experiment to suppress anomalies. Central to the most famous experiment in science, there is an apparent paradox which may not be discussed. Discussion of the paradox is suppressed. This paradox was published in Wireless World in May 1995, and there has been no reply. What we are talking about is massive, multi-level suppression in science today. When I raised this paradox at the centenary seminar, the speaker, Professor Kilminster, said, "That has never been mentioned before". In the nineteenth century, that would have been a remark of praise, but today it is a criticism. He made no further comment. I was later disciplined by the chairman, but the other lecturer told me; "Of course, that's not my department, because I'm a mathematician, and I leave that to the physicists." Both the lecturers, chosen for the honour of speaking at the centenary seminar, withdrew from the matter. The M-M apparent paradox has never been mentioned since, being suppressed for good reason. To raise such questions, and there are many, is cheating, like making your pawn move as a combination of knight and bishop in a chess match. Science today is the manipulation of pre-agreed axioms and old knowledge, nothing more. Further, the request for more detailed statements of the axioms, as in my case with Michelson-Morley, is resisted to the death. Not only are new ideas suppressed, but attempts to get the full description of the old ideas, if they are threadbare,
Re: [CTRL] *The Next Intellectuals*
-Caveat Lector- I studied academic politics in depth as part of a specialization in leadership studies. That was quite sufficient to convince me to stay in the "real world." -Original Message- From: Tenorlove [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 06, 1999 11:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] *The Next Intellectuals* -Caveat Lector- Should there be a Ph.D. program for public intellectuals? It would be redundant. Ph.D. stands for "Piled Higher and Deeper." Tenorlove who left academentia when she realized she spent more time cleaning her shoes than learning. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] OT: Scientists Probe Origin of Emotions
-Caveat Lector- Scientists Probe Origin of Emotions: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/health/A6266-1999Nov1.html Magnetoencephalography (MEG) : http://www.med.osaka-u.ac.jp/image/zhang/homepage/meg.html Electromagnetic Field Therapies: A Bibliography from Medline http://users.med.auth.gr/~karanik/english/articles/emf1.html#contents . DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [RuMills] Rumors of wars scapegoats
-Caveat Lector- For an interesting fictional take on millennialism, doomsday cults, conspiracy, etc., see Jane Jensen, *Millennium Rising* (New York: Ballantine, 1999). She has a conspiracy involving high-tech industry, both electronics and genetic engineering, with sophisticated mind control thrown in for good measure...her conspirators create a series of world crises eerily matching the apocalyptic visions in Revelation, as part of a master plan designed to drastically reduce the world's population. Sound familiar? I haven't finished it yet, but so far it is well-written and horribly plausible. This book is just barely science fiction; none of the technology is "futuristic", and the plot is no more unlikely than any of Tom Clancy's technothrillers... -Original Message- From: Dave [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 06, 1999 11:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] [RuMills] Rumors of wars scapegoats -Caveat Lector- Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 08:43:01 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RuMills] DOOMSDAY CULT ALERTS...WHAT IS THE GOVERNMENT REALLY SAYING? (Ru Mills is still on the road, gathering information. More pieces of this puzzle will be published on her return) Why is the Media Beginning to Warn About Christian Doomsday Cults? Why is the media beginning to put out warnings about the Doomsday cults? Could it be that people in high places have alerted them that something major could happen? And if officials in government have sent out this alert, how and why can they be so sure that doomsday violence is just about to happen? Could it be that the Millennial Doomsday Cults have been created by the New World Order to usher in the New World Order and the New World Religion? snip DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Genes / Smell / Global Warming
-Caveat Lector- WHAT DO ALL THOSE GENES DO? Triumphant from their decoding of complete genetic blueprints of living organisms, scientists are now intent on an even more daunting task - finding out what all those newly revealed genes do and how what they do can be put to good use. The researchers are prying into closely guarded secrets of inheritance in work they hope will have major implications for the well-being of humankind. "Virtually every disease is a failure of some protein," said David Eisenberg, director of the University of California, Los Angeles, and Department of Energy Laboratory of Structural Biology and Molecular Medicine, UCLA professor of chemistry and biochemistry and co-author of one of two related papers reported in the British journal Nature. "Ultimately, we believe this research will mean the diagnosis and treatment of virtually all disease. " The teams are looking beyond the DNA sequence of a genome - the complete genetic blueprint of an organism - to the unknown properties of the proteins they are discovering. --- SCENT IS IN THE NOSTRIL OF THE NOSE To each nostril, the world smells different, scientists say. "Our findings indicate that with each sniff, each nostril conveys to the brain a slightly different olfactory image - simultaneously," lead researcher Noam Sobel of Stanford University in Palo Alto, Calif. The variation can be attributed to air flows that vary on each side of the nose, the scientists explained. The research could have significant impact on the way artificial olfactory devices are developed, they reported in the British journal Nature. "The major significance of this finding is in revealing a mechanism that increases olfactory acuity by increasing olfactory range," Sobel said. "This mechanism whereby different air-flow rates contribute to tuning of the olfactory system to specific odorants may be applied in artificial olfactory apparati such as an artificial nose." --- NEW HIGH GLOBAL TEMPERATURES FORECAST Global temperatures will rise far higher than previously predicted, British researchers said. In a report by the Times of London, The British Meteorological Office says the claim was based on what researchers said would be a huge surge in carbon dioxide levels in the middle of the next century. Unless carbon dioxide emissions are cut, researchers said, the land will be six degrees hotter than the predicted 41 degrees (5.5 C), and the increased ground temperature will cause soil to release previously trapped carbon dioxide. The scientists said the higher carbon dioxide would further global warming and increase droughts, hurricanes, food shortages and raise sea levels. Dr. Geoff Jenkins, head of climate prediction at the Meteorological Office, uncovered the findings using new and more sensitive computer models. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links - Satan
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-11-08 13:38:23 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Didn't Bowie actually *play* an alien in a movie somewhere around 1970? Director Nicholas Roeg's "The Man Who Fell to Earth." DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [3] Trust No One...
-Caveat Lector- JAH Publications wrote: his plot to prevent me from recovering The Ark Dano writes, I would like to know more about how you are going to recover "The Ark" and where "The Ark" is or where YOU think it may be. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hoagland Skeptic News - Sunday #1
-Caveat Lector- Andrew Hennessey wrote: This rubbish comes on top of his ridiculous allegations DO NOT misconstrue this question as support of Hoagland and his lackeys but all things being equal, do you or ANYONE else have a BETTER explanation of the otherwise inexplicable? http://www.enterprisemission.com/egyptair.htm -- In the information age, truth is hard to come by... DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Hulda Clark gets two major awards.
-Caveat Lector- Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 11:28:33 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Bolen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Clark UPDATE - For General Distribution Hulda Clark Campaign In High Gear... Opinion by Tim Bolen Sunday, November 7, 1999 UPDATE - Hulda Clark gets two major awards. Last week was an important week in the Clark campaign. Dr. Hulda Clark, PHD, received two major awards, one from an International Scientific organization, the other from a national self-styled consumer advocate group. Both groups apparently placed her as a world renowned humanitarian, a forward thinking scientist, and a hero in the health world. THE FIRST AWARD, given at the tenth annual forum of the International Association of New Science at Fort Collins, Colorado was a serious peer affirmation of her work. Sponsored at the forum, by a former Apollo Astronaut and a co-founder of the Peace Corps, Dr. Clark delivered a speech and conducted a workshop to a standing-room-only crowd. She was given the "New Scientist of the Year Award." THE SECOND AWARD came in a strange package and requires some insider understanding, and interpretation of it's real meaning. Steven Barrett, MD., a non-practicing psychiatrist(?), working out of his basement in Allentown, Pennsylvania, supposedly writing on behalf of his so-called "National Council Against Health Fraud (NCAHF)" wrote an article for his web site (www. quackwatch.com) called "The Bizarre Claims of Hulda Clark." Clark insiders were thrilled at Barrett's recognition of their hero. Little is known about the NCAHF. Nick-naming itself "The Quackbusters," it's membership is secret, and it's funding is (?). But, leaders in the "Alternative Medicine" movement have long recognized that to be listed as a "quack" on the Barrett, Jarvis, Herbert, Renner "hit list" is tantamount to having "arrived" in the health world. Clark is now recognized in the company of Linus Pauling and the great health humanitarians of our time. Apparently, only those health leaders whose works seriously frighten Barrett's sponsors(?) make the "list" in the first place. To be personally written up by Barrett himself gives Clark serious stature in the health community, and is by itself, an affirmation of the truth and validity of her work. To be criticized by Barrett personally, is an honor that few will ever attain... Clark joins the ranks of 2,500 other top health professionals in North America, including 1,137 MDs, 167 PhDs, 236 DOs, 79 DDSs, 228 DCs, and 441 other (BS, RN, ND, HMD, CSW, MSN). Famous Julian Whitaker, MD of the Whitaker Wellness Institute, and himself on the "hit list," says "There are 52 double doctorates on the list, with two or more of the following degrees, MD, PhD, DO, DDS, DVM, DMD. Many have university affiliation, have published in the peer-review literature, and are respected authors of books or even textbooks. Please note that this 'quack' list includes Linus Pauling, PhD. Linus Pauling is the only individual to have won two unshared Nobel Prizes, and virtually every other award for scientific achievement, both national and international. In the 1970s the editors of the British New Scientist listed Dr. Pauling as one of the top 20 scientists of all time. Albert Einstein was the only other scientist in the 20th century listed along with Aristotle, Gallileo, Isaac Newton, and Michael Faraday." For a complete copy of Doctor Whitaker's views on the NCAHF see (www.internetwks.com/pauling/quack.html) Barrett has been conducting an unsuccessful anti-Clark campaign in Indiana, apparently trying to offset the prodigious Clark support network. Mary Wayt, Editor of the Brown County Democrat in Nashville, Indiana wrote about Barrett's fiasco in an editorial showing 3 letters against Clark, and 203 for Clark. (www.browncountyindiana.com). Barrett was quoted in the Bloomington Hoosier Times, spouting some of his usual (yawn) drivel. One of Barrett's parrotts(?) showed up at a Clark "Open House" in Columbus, Indiana - and whined when he was turned away. IN OTHER NEWS: Two different state "health freedom" teams are heading for Indiana to advise local Indiana supporters in the intricacies of passing "health freedom" bills in their own state. Members of both the Colorado (already passed), and the Minnesota (in progress) teams are in constant contact with concerned Indianans. Indiana organizational teams are now forming. MORE NEWS: Louisville, Kentucky supporters are organizing an event for 200 - 500 people over the December 10, 11, 12, 1999 weekend. National speakers including Hulda Clark. More information to follow. EVEN MORE NEWS: PBS's "Tony Brown Show," about Dr. Clark's work, HUGE success. Phones ringing off hook Thank you Tony - you're a great American. Second segment airing now around country. Mike McElrae did a terrific interview... EVEN MORE THAN
Re: [CTRL] [3] Trust No One...
-Caveat Lector- I bet I know where it will be on the 31 Dec this year, and it is supposedly in that Church in Scotland.. Peter We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/poleshift - Original Message - From: Dano [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] [3] "Trust No One..." -Caveat Lector- JAH Publications wrote: his plot to prevent me from recovering The Ark Dano writes, I would like to know more about how you are going to recover "The Ark" and where "The Ark" is or where YOU think it may be. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Monday #1
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 991108a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained here is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy, or meaning. : No goldfish, geeks or Reptilioids were branded to produce this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # UK'S 1999 Crop Circle Season Had Some Surprises - Year's Best Featured Spectacular Details Never Seen Before: http://caus.org/ccr110899.htm @ Images: http://cropcircleconnector.com/1999/Avebury/Avebury99a.html and www.cropcircleconnector.com/1999/StantonStBernard/Stantonstbernard99a.html : Have you improved your crop-circle designs lately? Are you adding great, specftacular details? Do the voices in your head offer aesthetic advice?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Animals-R-Us: # Pets Cut Dangerous Surges In Blood Pressure. ATLANTA (Reuters) Facing a stressful task? Trade your husband or wife for a dog or a cat. NOW!! http://news.excite.com/news/r/991108/08/odd-health-heart-pets : Would you rather have a cat, a dog, a husband, a wife, a robot, or me? Do you raise your companions' blood pressure? Do they raise yours? How? # Psychic: Dog may have been military leader in past. (AC) She paid $15 to learn about her Boston terrier's previous lives, but was shaken by the revelation about Amanda the dog. "Goodness, who knew?" she asked. Does atrocity lurk in every pet? http://www.azcentral.com/news/1108pet.shtml : Is your pet a reincarnated mass-murderer, demagogue, conquistador? Who? Who's your favorite historical figure to have been reincarnated as y'r pet? # British Reporter 'Tortured With Branding Iron.' LONDON (Reuters) An award- winning TV documentary maker who exposed extreme elements within Britain's Animal Liberation Front (ALF) said he was kidnapped and tortured with a branding iron. http://news.excite.com/news/r/991108/08/odd-crime-branding : Would you rather brand animals, reporters, lawyers, aliens, robots, me? Do you brand/torture many of your adversaries? Do they brand/torture you? Why? # School-spirited Texas teens spray-paint animals. To "celebrate" the big upcoming football game, high school kids spray-painted cows and pigs (in green gold, the school colors), and fatally beat some animals, including ten prize-winning turkeys. http://dallasnews.com/metro/1107met5turkeys.htm : Do you have a love/hate relationship with animals? Do voices in your head direct your attitudes/behavior towards animals? Should animal activists burn HS students with branding irons? Is it OK to molest a pig who was Hitler in a previous life? Is spray-painting animals good for your blood pressure? Eh? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Woman to fight her "blessed day" discipline. Her bosses told her to knock off the "blessed day" business, but Liz Anderson is determined to keep it up. She hired a lawyer to file a religious discrimination complaint. "My telling people to 'have a blessed day' is not taking anything away from anybody:" http://starnews.com/news/citystate/99/nov/1107st_blessed.html : Do you annoy people with your verbal blessings, exorcisms, curses, other spiritual statements? Do others annoy you with such language? Will you sue? # 500 Falun Gong sentenced to slave labor, see http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2561966743-f73 # Also: China building Falun Gong cases, see http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2561950702-24e _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Five men arrested after scary "supernatural encounter." Dressed as Ninja warriors for martial-arts practice, the guys pounded on a minister's door at 2 a.m. after they were confronted by a beast-like demon. "We just wanted to talk to the pastor because Shaun was pretty spooked" - but the cops were called: http://www.courant.com/news/archive/Nov7-ctnews6.stm : Have you encountered any demons lately? Did you run to a pastor? Were you exorcised, busted, cursed, obliterated? Are you a beast-like demon? Really? @ THE COMPLETE IDIOT'S GUIDE TO BEING PSYCHIC at least declares its honest regard for its readership: http://www.csicop.org/si/9909/book-review.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # BRAVE NEW SCHOOLS - Jesus expelled from class - 'Poster' boy, 7, fights decision with crayons, lawsuit: http://nypostonline.com/news/17606.htm $ 'Brave New Schools' - Get this expose of the public school system: https://locked.webforums.com/forums/secure.o-read/msa64.211.html : Have you promoted your belief system in a tax-supported venue lately? Do you mind if your taxes support the promotion of other people's beliefs? Eh? @ Harry Keeler's mysteries give us a world that is idiotic, to be sure, but also pleasingly weird and lunatic. Here are crimes whose solutions are exquisitely unreal: http://www.sfbg.com/lit/october99/index.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Vatican vs. Scotland - Church blasts end to ban on promoting homosexuality:
Re: [CTRL] Microsoft and liberty
-Caveat Lector- "M.A. Johnson" wrote: -Caveat Lector- ~~for educational purposes only~~ Microsoft and liberty Llewellyn H. Rockwell Jr. Is free enterprise legal in America or not? This isn't free enterprise. It's monopoly capitalism. The natural outcome of of unregulated free enterprise. Monopoly Capitalism is more destructive than global warming is in the short run. To give businessmen and women a free hand in manipulating a nation's economy is suicidal. Business people should only be licensed to sell each other shoes. That's all. Joshua2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Report from Iron Mountain
-Caveat Lector- I read *Report from Iron Mountain* when it first came out. Everybody back then understood that it was a spoof of the Herman Kahn-Henry Kissinger "Thinking About the Unthinkable" type of book, replete with scenarios and doomsday analyses. This kind of thinking was more blatantly spoofed in "Doctor Strangelove", specifically in the character Doctor Strangelove, played by Peter Sellers. Sure, there was some stuff in *Iron Mountain* that sounded very much like what was coming from think tanks like RAND or Hudson Institute, but after all that's what the book was satirizing. -Original Message- From: Nurev Ind Research [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 8:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Report from Iron Mountain -Caveat Lector- Dave wrote: -Caveat Lector- Report from Iron Mountain snip Report From Iron Mountain is not for real . it was done as a literary joke by the author who says so in a preface to the new publications of the book. The ideas are very interesting though, and are worth reading. Joshua2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] fw: SNET: Essential Command System At Risk For Y2K Fai lure
-Caveat Lector- DoD installed Mac *servers* for its websites, after deciding that these would be more secure than their old NT servers, which had been hacked several times. The Mac OS is not vulnerable to Y2K the way a PC is, but software running on a Mac could have problems. In any event, the command-and-control systems are undoubtedly running on mainframes, not on Macs. -Original Message- From: earthman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 11:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] fw: SNET: Essential Command System At Risk For Y2K Failure -Caveat Lector- Didn't the Defence Dpmt install a Mac system... and Y2K is not a problem with Mac right? Peter We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/poleshift - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 3:52 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] fw: SNET: Essential Command System At Risk For Y2K Failure -Caveat Lector- On 7 Nov 99, at 0:47, Nicky Molloy wrote: The computer system used by the White House and top commanders to plan and execute major military missions has not proven ready for 2000, the Pentagon's inspector general said in a report released Friday. With two months until the new year, the audit raises important questions about the military's preparedness to deal with the prospect that crucial computers could malfunction when their internal calendars roll over to 2000. How on earth are they gonna put the nation under martial law if their computers don't even work? Somehow I keep believing we will actually be saved by human error and incompetence. sno0wl DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Monday #2
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 991108b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained here is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy, or meaning. : No artificially-grown heart valves were stolen to produce this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Die of heart disease, or something: http://www.clottedcream.com/ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Editor's Note: Many of you, o Gentle Readers, who have emailed me in the last couple weeks have received no reply. It's not that I hate you; but since my recent Win98 crash, I'm still working on my backup machine, and am trying to restore the systems to my main machine. The latter, a Compaq laptop, is slow enough; the former, a Monorail of dimished capacity, is slower than snot on a cold day. And I have other excuses. But suffice to say, I'll respond to you as soon as I can. Thanx for your patience. --Ric PS: Donations of new, blindingly fast hardware will not be refused. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # UFOS COME IN All Sizes and Shapes... With some UFO's it's stretching a point to call them saucer-shaped. But whether they're round and thin, long stubby, or even shaped like home plate, they remain as baffling - and fascinating - as ever. http://users.ev1.net/~seektress/sizes.htm # WE FLEW ABOVE the Flying Saucers. How does it feel to see flying saucers? Like most people, we had never consciously expected to face that question, but now we have an answer. When you see "saucers" from the angle and near- ness that we did, and watch them go through the astonishing maneuver that we witnessed, you feel humbled. http://users.ev1.net/~seektress/above.htm : What's your favorite flying saucer? What angle did you see it from? Were you near? Did aliens abduct you? Did you abduct aliens? Did everyone escape? @ Maj. Donald E. Keyhoe DataPage - UFO Pioneer: http://www.sightings.com/ufo5/keyhoedatapage.html # Deer Hunters Claims To Have Seen ETs In Woods: http://www.sightings.com/ufo5/filers11699.htm _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # ROOF COLLAPSES AT CHURCH. The concrete roof of a covered walkway collapsed as churchgoers socialized between services, injuring 17 people. Dozens of people on and near the 72-foot-long walkway had been sharing doughnuts and coffee at St. Mary Magdalene Catholic Church when the structure fell. No life-threatening injuries: http://cnn.com/US/9911/07/walkwaycollapse.ap/ : Was this God's Will? Should God be charged with aggravated assault? Do your deities regularly injure, maim, kill their followers? Do you mind?? @ What is the present tense of "wrought," as in the line from Judges, "What hath God wrought"? Steven Pinker has the surprising answer: www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/99/11/07/stibooboo01011.html?1334425 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Muslims remove protest tent. JERUSALEM (AP) Israeli Muslims removed a tent which they had pitched outside a basilica in Nazareth to thwart a Catholic Church plan to build a plaza there. The Muslims agreed to remove the tent after the Israeli government authorized building a mosque on part of the square. The Church criticized the government's decision as capitulation to Muslims and a failure to defend the rights of the Christian population. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2561976311-4d8 : Do buildings threaten your religious rights? Do you think more religious building should be built because the more there are, the more will collapse? # 4 Killed In Indonesia Riot - Christian-Muslim Conflict Widening: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2561966752-75c # Racial and Religious Integration Ruffles Malaysia University: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2561968874-68b _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # SPACEVIEWS: X-33 Hydrogen Tank Damage May Delay Program - Engine Replace- ment May Delay Shuttle Launch - Challenger Tile Auction Halted - Service Module Launch Delayed - Astronomers Discover Planet Around Binary Star - Decision on Shuttle Replacement Years Away - US Abstains from UN Space Vote - Candidate McCain Speaks Out on Space - SpaceViews Event Horizon - Other News - The X-20 Dyna Soar: http://www.spaceviews.com/1999/1108/ : Are space projects always delayed? Do ETs interfere with our space work, to keep us from finding or competing with them? Are you an alien saboteur? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Hindus protest Baptist booklet. HOUSTON (AP) Over 100 people protested at one of the US's largest Baptist churches over a booklet that urges South- ern Baptists to pray for Hindus' deliverance from the "power of Satan." "We want all people to understand that religious intolerance is rearing its head in this country. Some people aren't aware of the type of hate that is being preached by mainstream churches." The booklet, distributed during Divali, the major Hindu festival of lights, says Hindus have no concept of sin or personal responsibility and "worship
[CTRL] Remember Veteran's Day
-Caveat Lector- [Unable to display image] Robert E Lehnherr wrote: Some veterans bear visible signs of their service: a missing limb, a Jagged scar, a certain look in the eye. Others may carry the evidence inside them: a pin holding a bone together, a piece of shrapnel in the leg - or perhaps another sort of inner steel: The soul's ally forged in the refinery of adversity. Except in parades, however, the men and women who have kept America safe Wear no badge or emblem. You can't tell a vet just by looking. What is a vet? He is the cop on the beat who spent six months in Saudi Arabia sweating two gallons a day making sure the armored personnel carriers didn't run out of fuel. He is the barroom loudmouth, dumber than five wooden planks, whose overgrown frat-boy behavior is outweighed a hundred times in the cosmic scales by four hours of exquisite bravery near the 38th parallel. She or he is the nurse who fought against futility and went to sleep sobbing every night for two solid years in Da Nang. He is the POW who went away one person and came back another - or didn't come back AT ALL. He is the Quantico drill instructor who has never seen combat - but has saved countless lives by turning slouchy, no-account rednecks and gang members into Marines, and teaching them to watch each other's backs. He is the parade - riding Legionnaire who pins on his ribbons and medals with a prosthetic hand. He is the career quartermaster who watches the ribbons and medals pass him by. He is the three anonymous heroes in The Tomb Of The Unknowns, whose presence at the Arlington National Cemetery must forever preserve the memory of all the anonymous heroes whose valor dies unrecognized with them on the battlefield or in the ocean's sunless deep. He is the old guy bagging groceries at the supermarket - palsied now and aggravatingly slow - who helped liberate a Nazi death camp and who wishes all day long that his wife were still alive to hold him when the nightmares come. He is an ordinary and yet an extraordinary human being - a person who offered some of his life's most vital years in the service of his country, and who sacrificed his ambitions so others would not have to sacrifice theirs. He is a soldier and a savior and a sword against the darkness, and he is nothing more than the finest, greatest testimony on behalf of the finest, greatest nation ever known. So remember, each time you see someone who has served our country, just lean over and say Thank You. That's all most people need, and in most cases it will mean more than any medals they could have been awarded or were awarded. Two little words that mean a lot, "THANK YOU". Remember November 11th is Veterans Day [Unable to display image] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] GOP News Views - November 8, 1999
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! * Alpha Al âTime magazine revealed that Al Gore hired (Naomi) Wolf, who has written extensively on women and sexual power, as a $15,000-a-month consultant to help him with everything from his shift to earth tones to his efforts to break with Bill Clinton. âWolf has argued internally that Gore is a âbeta maleâ who needs to take on the âalpha maleâ in the Oval Office before the public will see him as the top dog,â write Timeâs Michael Duffy and Karen Tumulty. Of course, when a man has to pony up a fortune to teach him how to be a man, that definitely takes the edge off his top-dogginess.â - Columnist Maureen Dowd, New York Times, 11/3/99 âAlpha Alâ Canât Shake Clinton Stench âAl Gore's public attempts to distance himself from the many scandals of the Clinton administration are offset by his penchant for hiring advisors with questionable backgrounds and credentials. His campaign chairman resigned from Congress under a cloud and is under investigation for misappropriating money while serving as head of an American trade delegation and his advisor on women's issues is a self-admitted sex addict who urges schools to teach teenagers the finer points of oral sex. âThe Gore double-standard is astounding, even by current Washington standards,â says political scientist George Harleigh. âHis walk doesn't match his talk.â" - Capitol Hill Blue, 11/8/99 They Got the Wrong Monopoly âOn Friday, a federal judge declared that a particular organization had used its monopoly power âto stifle innovation, reduce competition and hurt consumers.â He is letting an anti-trust suit proceed against this organization. No, it's not the public school systems. It's Microsoft.â - Libby Sternberg, 11/6/99 * Newt.com âEveryone in Washington wants to know: whatâs next for Newt? The answer: cyberlobbyist, at least in part. Fortune has learned that former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, through his political action committee (PAC), is trying to mobilize networks of people around the country to advocate three legislative proposals - partial privatization of Social Security, tax limitation initiatives, and the elimination of the estate tax - all with the help of Internet sites now under construction. ... SocialSecurityPlus.org... recommends that people be allowed to put some of the money they now fork over to the federal government through the payroll tax into a personal account. ... A second Gingrich proposal, called MaxTax.org advocates that people not be forced to pay more than 25% of their income in taxes to federal, state and local governments combined. ... The third Gingrich site, NoDeathTax.org, presses for the elimination of the estate tax, which is also known by critics as the death tax.â - Jeffrey Birnbaum, Fortune, 10/5/99 *** GOP Chief Gives Porter Early Nod âFrom a national perspective, (state Sen. Jon) Porter (R) is viewed as âone of our premier candidates,â says Rep. Tom Davis, R-Va. The Nevada seat is âone of our top 10 races, which has a lot to do with how money is disbursed.â Davis is chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee and views the seat as pivotal to the GOP retaining control of the House. He said Porter was recruited by the committee and has the partyâs solid backing...â - Las Vegas Review Journal, 11/7/99 *** Tale of Two Beers The Virginia Registrar of Voters is having some problems with the Department of Motor Vehicles. Seems significant numbers of people who registered to vote at the DMV werenât on the voter rolls last Tuesday when they showed up at the polls. Here in Nevada, a state Assemblyman is having some problems with with the Department of Motor Vehicles. Seems significant numbers of people who show up to register their cars, etc., are being made to wait for hours on end because of a DMV computer system foul-up. Both the Virginia Registrar of Voters and the Nevada Assemblyman are charged with fixing a major problem with the DMV - and both are named Robert Beers. What are the odds? ** Help Spread the Word If you know someone who does not receive our FREE GOP News Views briefings, send their e-mail address to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Published by: Nevada Republican Liberty Caucus âThe Conscience of the Republican Partyâ Chuck Muth, Chairman **COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Monday #3
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 991108c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained here is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy, or meaning. : No pig hearts were implanted in Sikhs during prduction of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Friends: http://www.isness.org/FRIENDS.JPG _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # When Disclosure Serves Secrecy. (PNN) The covert projects which have been running UFO related programs for nearly 60 years are not interested in a disclosure which upsets their apple cart. They want such a disclosure to transform their apple cart into a freight train. And they potentially have the power and connections to do it. http://caus.org/pn110899.htm : Do you derive power from your UFO work? Will you do ANYTHING to retain enhance such power? Are all who oppose you doomed? Do you rule the world?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Researchers Grow Artificial Heart Valves In Sheep. ATLANTA (Reuters) Artificial heart valves made from a patient's own cells have worked in experiments with sheep and may someday be used in humans: http://news.excite.com/news/r/991108/00/science-heart-valves # Japanese Study Hints Of Home-Grown Heart Bypasses. ATLANTA (Reuters) Cells taken from the umbilical cords of newborns might work to help heart patients grow their own heart bypasses: http://news.excite.com/news/r/991108/00/science-heart-cells : Do you want replacement heart parts grown in yourself, in pigs or sheep or cows or clones? Would you rather have nanobots rebuild your heart? Why? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # PENTAGON MUSED HACKING SERBS. During last spring's conflict with Yugo- slavia, the Pentagon considered hacking into Serbian computer networks to disrupt military operations and basic civilian services. But it refrained from doing so, according to senior defense officials, due to continuing uncertainties and limitations surrounding the emerging field of cyber warfare. http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A35345-1999Nov7.html : Do you have ethical/tactical/mental problems with CyberWar? Do you wage cyberwar anyway? Do you lie about it? Are you waging cyberwar right now?? # REPORT LINKS FREED PUERTO RICANS TO CUBA - Spies For Castro? http://cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/11/07/puertorico.clemency/ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Anthrax drill gets a little too real. The players in a mock anthrax attack were thrown into a real scare after pepper spray was released during the exercise. http://www.jsonline.com/news/wauk/nov99/anthrax07110699.asp # TB gene found. SAN FRANCISCO (UPI) Scientists have identified a gene necessary for the tuberculosis bacterium to wreak its disease-causing havoc in the lung. http://news.excite.com/news/u/991105/19/health-tb : When will engineered TB make its appearance in BioWar? Do you prefer to use/have TB, anthrax, AIDS, mega-jock-itch, other biological agents? Which? # Researchers try to control fire ants - fire ants reciprocate: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2561968639-36c _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ THE GOTHS COME OUT AT NIGHT. Think of the "Saturday Night Live" parody of pubescent kids competing over who's more goth when you visit this newsgroup. Enjoy the long thread about Slimelight, a British goth club; and there's some healthy mocking of the poor goth who takes himself and his "Ministry of Evil" too seriously. News:uk.people.gothic : Are you goth? Are you more goth than me? Yah? Can you ever be goth enough, too goth, WAY too goth? How? Do you minister to evil? Is it rewarding? How? @ Send dog doo via the Internet: http://www.dogdoo.com/ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Pope: Religious freedom a right. NEW DELHI, India (AP) - With his church under fire by Hindus for its missionary work, Pope John Paul II said free- dom to practice or change one's religion must be considered a basic human right. Then Holy Office agents beamed mindcontrol rays into the audience. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2561978117-40f : Do we have the right to NOT be converted, as well as to convert? Have you converted lately? To what? Was it voluntary? Are you sure? Were drugs used? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # BAGPIPES RESONATE THROUGH RUGGED COASTLINE OF... SPAIN? The green, rolling hills and wild, untamed sea conjure up a vivid image of the rugged Irish coastline - but tho there are bagpipers galore providing background music for this idyllic scene, this is not Ireland. Rather, it's northern Spain, a region whose unique Celtic culture has moved ahead with a unique inno- vation: electric bagpipes. http://cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/Music/9911/05/wb.galicia : Are bagpipes Satan's favorite musical instrument? Are pipers diabolic? If you listen to pipes, are you damned eternally? Are electric bagpipes even more horrible than the acoustic variety? Should pipes pipers be burnt?? # CAT scan used to study artifacts - non-intrusive
Re: [CTRL] Microsoft and liberty
-Caveat Lector- Microsoft and liberty Llewellyn H. Rockwell Jr. Is free enterprise legal in America or not? Joshua This isn't free enterprise. It's monopoly capitalism. The natural outcome of of unregulated free enterprise. Monopoly Capitalism is more destructive than global warming is in the short run. MJ: You have no understanding of capitalism NOR monopolies. There are two types of monopolies; natural (where the best service is provided at the best price) which has NEVER existed AND coercive which requires the Government to enforce its advantages. Microsoft is NOT a monopoly no matter how hard the MONOPOLY Judge agrees with the MONOPOLY Justice Department that the MONOPOLY Leviathan Government must step in and provide illusion. Joshua To give businessmen and women a free hand in manipulating a nation's economy is suicidal. Business people should only be licensed to sell each other shoes. That's all. MJ: Better to let politicians decide. The more complex the society, the more government control we need. by Leonard Reed Argued a college president at a seminar: "Your free market, private property, limited government theories were all right under the simple conditions of a century or more ago, but surely they are unworkable in today's complex economy. The more complex the society, the greater is the need for governmental control; that seems axiomatic." It is important to expose this oft-heard, plausible, and influential fallacy because it leads directly and logically to socialistic planning. This is how a member of the seminar team answered the college president: "Let us take the simplest possible situation -- just you and I. Next, let us assume that I am as wise as any president of the United States who has held office during your lifetime. With these qualifications in mind, do you honestly think I would be competent to coercively control what you shall invent, discover, or create, what the hours of your labor shall be, what wage you shall receive, what and with whom you shall associate and exchange? Is not my incompetence demonstrably apparent in this simplest of all societies? "Now, let us shift from the simple situation to a more complex society -- to all the people in this room. What would you think of my competence to coercively control their creative actions? Or, let us contemplate a really complex situation -- the 255 million people of this nation. If I were to suggest that I should take over the management of their lives and their billions of exchanges, you would think me the victim of hallucinations. Is it not obvious that the more complex an economy, the more certainly will governmental control of productive effort exert a retarding influence? Obviously, the more complex our economy, the more we should rely on the miraculous, self-adapting processes of men acting freely. No mind of man nor any combination of minds can even envision, let alone intelligently control, the countless human energy exchanges in a simple society, to say nothing of a complex one." It is unlikely that the college president will raise that question again. While exposing fallacies can be likened to beating out brush fires endlessly, the exercise is nonetheless self-improving as well as useful -- in the sense that rear guard actions are useful. Further, one's ability to expose fallacies -- a negative tactic -- appears to be a necessary preface to accenting the positive influentially. Unless a person can demonstrate competence at exploding socialistic error, he is not likely to gain wide audiences for his views about the wonders wrought by men who are free. Of all the errors heard about the "bargaining tables" or in classrooms, there is not one that cannot be simply explained away. We only need to put our minds to it. Regard$, --MJ The anointed don't like to talk about painful trade-offs. They like to talk about happy "solutions" that get rid of the whole problem -- at least in their imagination. -- Thomas Sowell DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:]
[CTRL] Antitrust and Microsoft
-Caveat Lector- Antitrust and Microsoft by Dominick Armentano The Microsoft Corporation's continuing difficulties with the Department of Justice, even after an appeals court ruled in the company's favor, reveal the absurdity of attempting to apply 19th-century antitrust law to a 21st-century computer and telecommunications marketplace. Microsoft had licensed its Windows operating system to PC makers on the condition that they also take (at no charge) its Internet browser, Explorer. If the operating system and the browser are in fact separate products, then this arrangement is a so-called "tying agreement" forbidden by a 1995 consent decree between Microsoft and the Department of Justice. But Microsoft claimed that its browser function has now been fully integrated into Windows and that the consent decree explicitly allows it to sell "integrated" products. On December 11, 1997, District Judge Thomas Jackson ruled against Microsoft and ordered that the company make Windows and its browser available (to PC makers) separately. On June 23, 1998, the appeals court overturned the lower court's ruling on grounds that the products were indeed "integrated." Moreover, the court said, "antitrust scholars have long recognized the undesirability of having courts oversee product design." Currently Section 1 of the Sherman Act (1890) and Section 3 of the Clayton Act (1914) prohibit tying agreements that "restrain trade substantially." In addition, there is a vast antitrust case law that forbids firms with dominant market shares in one product (the tying good) from requiring buyers to take a second product (the tied good) as a condition of sale or lease. Whether Microsoft's Window and browser are integrated or "tied" products will be a continuing concern for the courts and the government. Yet beyond that, the legal skirmish raises the more important issue addressed by the appeals court: do we really want government antitrust attorneys and the courts determining the pace and scope of innovation in the computer and telecommunications industry? Can Microsoft or any other software company continue to integrate computer applications with operating system software? Or is technological change to be put on hold or redirected as we discover what computer products the government or the courts will allow to be sold? Aside from the merits of the antitrust issues, to put such decisions in the hands of government is economic lunacy of the highest order. Is there any merit to the argument that Microsoft has engaged in illegal tying and the products ought to be "separated" by force of law? The appropriate perspective for any analysis of tying agreements is the self-interest of consumers. Prospective PC buyers are no different from any other consumers. They want as much total product as they can get for the lowest cost. And from a consumer perspective, Windows with (free) Explorer (integrated or tied) is better than Windows without Explorer or with Explorer at some additional cost. It is incorrect to hold that PC manufacturers are "coerced" into taking Explorer as the government maintains. The simple fact is that PC users want Explorer with their Windows. No PC manufacturer could risk selling its product without including Explorer when other rival PC manufacturers would be free to provide Explorer at no consumer cost. This is the basic reason that PC manufacturers accept Microsoft's licensing condition that Explorer be included. Competition in the PC market aligns the consumer's interest with that of Microsoft. Even accepting that Microsoft "ties" two different products, the antitrust issue is whether the tying restrains trade substantially. Here the government is on weaker ground still. Trade might be restrained if the Microsoft licensing agreement contained a clause forbidding the licensee PC maker from installing "competitive" browsers or dealing in the products of a competitor of Microsoft. Such language was common in several celebrated tying contract cases tried decades ago. But Microsoft places no outside restraint on PC makers with respect to the installation of competitive products, including browsers. In any case, from a marketing perspective, such contractual restrictions are often counterproductive; in evolving market competition, consumer desire for the best product at the lowest price eventually prevails. Antitrust enthusiasts have also argued that trade could be restrained if Microsoft's tying agreement (or product integration) sharply reduced the sales of competitive browsers. But this theory of restraint makes no economic sense. Overall trade is not restrained when some firms do more business while other firms do less. Further, if it is assumed that Microsoft's browser is actually superior to the competitive browser it replaces-and certainly, its zero price is superior-then overall trade has been expanded, not restrained, by the tie-in or integration. Netscape Communications Corporation complained that
[CTRL] Dr R Boylans site
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[CTRL] Ten Years after the Fall: After the Celebration
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! STRATFOR.COM Global Intelligence Update Weekly Analysis November 8, 1999 Ten Years after the Fall: After the Celebration Summary: Last week saw a remarkable display of nuclear saber rattling by the Russians. Triggered by U.S. insistence on deploying an Anti- Ballistic Missile system despite a 1972 treaty and by Congress' rejection of a nuclear test ban treaty, the Russians put on a display of symbolic nuclear muscle-flexing unlike anything seen in 10 years. The real issue behind the display was that the United States is discounting Russia in its foreign policy decisions. U.S. meddling in Russia's sphere of influence, the former Soviet Union, is posing real problems for the Russians. Moscow is trying to remind the Americans of the risks it will run if it places Russia in an untenable position. This also makes for good domestic politics in Russia. Analysis: The Berlin Wall came down 10 years ago this week. This made the events of last week all the more startling. The Russians rattled their nuclear sabers louder than they have since Gorbachev's day, reminding the United States that whatever else has happened, Russia remains a great power. The United States appeared simultaneously confused and angry at Russia's behavior. This is what made the last week interesting. The United States still thinks it is operating in the post-Cold War era. The Russians have moved on to a very different place. It all began with discussion in the United States about amending the 1972 treaty banning the deployment of Anti-ballistic Missile Systems. The logic behind the treaty was that peace between the United States and the Soviet Union depended on Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD). As long as both sides were assured of the ability to destroy the other, neither would attempt a nuclear attack. Anti-ballistic missile systems had the potential of destabilizing the situation. With such a system, one side could gain the ability to block all or most of the other's attack. More important, was the uncertainty surrounding the system. As neither side could be sure the other side was able to block its attacks, each had to assume the worst: that its own nuclear arsenal was about to become impotent. This increased insecurity would obviously knock out the "assured" element of MAD, increasing the likelihood of war. Therefore, they formed a treaty banning all but a limited number of ABM sites in each country. What was particularly nice about the treaty was that the agreement banned a technology that didn't really exist yet. The United States toyed with the idea of an ABM shield during the 1980s. Called Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI), and nicknamed Star Wars, it came to little, because of serious technical difficulties in implementation and attacks by those who felt MAD was a more secure foundation for preventing nuclear war. Nevertheless, research and development on some sort of missile defense went on in the Ballistic Missile Defense Organization (BMDO), and in a system called Theater High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD). THAAD differed from Star Wars in several ways. It was not designed to shield the United States against a massive Soviet attack. Rather, it was intended to defend U.S. troops abroad against the threat of smaller powers like Iraq or North Korea. THAAD's function was to destroy a small handful of incoming missiles, not to serve as a shield against massive attack. Therefore, from the U.S. point of view, THAAD posed no challenge to the Russians. From the American point of view, the 1972 treaty is now irrelevant. The foundation of the treaty was MAD. With the United States and Soviet Union training thousands of missiles on each other, an ABM system would have undermined MAD. In 1999, there is no Soviet Union, and the United States and Russia are not aiming thousands of warheads at each other. We are not on hair trigger alerts, ready to move to DEFCON 1 on a moment's notice. Therefore, U.S. reasoning holds that introducing interceptor missiles would not destabilize the balance of terror, because there is no longer a balance of terror. What remain are threats from minor powers that can be blocked by new ABM systems. Thus, not only is the 1972 treaty meaningless, but the Russians cannot reasonably object to the United States protecting its cities from destruction by dangerous, small enemies. The United States was wrong. The Russians did not think the treaty was irrelevant. In fact, they went ballistic last week. Earlier, Russian President Boris Yeltsin wrote a letter to U.S. President Bill Clinton stating that the U.S. plan would have "extremely dangerous consequences for the entire disarmament process." Then things started happening: * On Nov. 3, with a massive publicity blitz, the Russians announced they had test-fired one of the anti-ballistic missiles they were permitted under the 1972 treaty. Col. Gen. Vladimir
[CTRL] Top general raises ire of GOP leaders
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! Top general raises ire of GOP leaders -- -- By Rowan Scarborough THE WASHINGTON TIMES TIMES en. Henry H. Shelton's relations with some Republican congressional leaders have deteriorated this year as officials say the Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman seems more interested in stating White House "spin" than giving his opinions. An aide to the general denied the charge, saying the chairman has remained above politics. Gen. Shelton's standing with Republicans dropped in October when he labeled "devastating" a party proposal to cut each federal department's budget by 1 percent. One congressional aide said the broadside was "disingenuous," given that the Republican-written defense budget this year is higher than the one President Clinton proposed and Gen. Shelton endorsed. Said a senior Republican defense staffer: "He came up here last winter and said he could live with the president's budget but he would like a little bit more. We gave them billions more. "So then we want an across-the-board cut that would hit DOD up by $2.7 billion, and he says that would be unacceptable. . . . You think politics is involved here? That's the kind of stuff people up here don't forget. We do him a favor, and we get a knife in the back." Another aide accused Gen. Shelton of "betrayal" for using the word "devastating" in testimony before the -- Continued from Front Page -- Senate Armed Services Committee. The aide said it was Republican senators, not the White House, who worked behind the scenes to encourage the Joint Chiefs to talk publicly about each service's combat readiness problems. The chiefs agreed, and their public comments persuaded President Clinton to give the military more money. After Gen. Shelton's testimony, Senate Appropriations Chairman Ted Stevens, Alaska Republican, and his House counterpart, C.W. Bill Young, Florida Republican, fired off a scolding letter to the chairman. "The fact of the matter is that the national security budgets submitted year after year by this administration, and which you have testified in support of before our committees the past two years, would have been 'devastating' to our nation's military," the two told Gen. Shelton. The Armed Services Committee requires the top brass, including Gen. Shelton, to pledge at confirmation hearings to provide the panel candid military opinions, even if they conflict with the White House's position. Capt. Stephen Pietropaoli, Gen. Shelton's spokesman, said the chairman simply gave a frank assessment of what it would mean to the military to lose nearly $3 billion in hard-fought dollars. "Candor can always come both ways," he said. "He is what he is. As he has said, and as you know, politics affects a lot of decisions in Washington, but it doesn't affect Gen. Shelton's military advice." Capt. Pietropaoli said that regardless of the fact that the Republicans provided more money, taking some of it back would have required the Pentagon to scale back improvements in readiness accounts. "The main point the chairman made was it would have a serious impact in the success made with working hand-in-hand with [GOP and Democratic leaders] across-the-board in arresting this decline," he said. The GOP's disenchantment with Gen. Shelton goes beyond his budget testimony. Interviews with senior defense aides show they also believe: Gen. Shelton failed to discuss candidly with Congress problems encountered by American commanders during the 78-day bombing of Serbia. Since the conflict's end, U.S. officers have told of a number of political roadblocks within the 19-nation NATO that prevented execution of an all-out air campaign. For example, Air Force Lt. Gen. Michael C. Short, who oversaw the air war, recently told the Senate Armed Services Committee that one country, France, blocked American commanders from bombing a host of military targets that increased risks for U.S. personnel. Gen. Shelton provided excessively enthusiastic support to the Clinton-coveted Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty, dismissing opposition from a number of former Defense Department officials. His support, along with the Joint Chiefs' support, came despite a classified CIA assessment that the treaty is not verifiable. He orchestrated a united Joint Chiefs opposition to speeding up deployment of a limited national missile defense, despite an independent commission's finding that the United States might have little or no warning before an enemy deployed ballistic missiles capable of striking this nation. In addition to Mr. Young and Mr. Stevens, congressional aides say other congressional leaders have expressed public or private dissatisfaction with Gen. Shelton's testimony.
[CTRL] Gene Therapy Deaths-Cover-up?
-Caveat Lector- Researchers didn't report six gene therapy deaths WASHINGTON (AP) - Two researchers trying to grow new blood vessels around blocked ones failed to report to the National Institutes of Health that six people died during their gene therapy studies. Ronald Crystal of the New York Hospital-Cornell Medical Center in Manhattan and Jeffrey Isner of Tufts University in Boston told The Washington Post in today's editions that they believe the six patients died from underlying illnesses and not from the gene therapy. The Food and Drug Administration ordered Schering-Plough Corp. to temporarily halt new enrollments in two gene therapy studies last week after a teen-ager in a similar experiment died Sept. 16. University of Pennsylvania scientists had placed healthy genes in his liver to combat a rare metabolic disease. The researchers in the blood vessel study said they did report the deaths to the FDA, which doesn't release the information. But they said federal regulations didn't require them to tell the NIH because gene therapy didn't directly cause the deaths. The Post quoted NIH officials as saying that even deaths first appearing unrelated to gene therapy should be reported and made public because the cause of death may not be determined until later. Isner told the Post not reporting the deaths was an oversight and he was unclear about whether he had to. Crystal said he supported telling the NIH, but he didn't consider it a legal requirement. He said Parke-Davis, which sponsored his study, has become responsible for reporting deaths to the agencies involved. Parke-Davis spokeswoman Carol Goodrich told the Post that the company had sent the NIH details of the deaths on Oct. 20. The deaths had been discussed in scientific journals and meetings, both researchers said. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Capitol Watch - -Personalized- Edition Date: 11/8/99
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! --- TODAY'S HEADLINES --- Poll: Bush Has Hefty Lead in N.H. Campaigns appeal for Arab-American support Republican candidates weigh in on Microsoft case Bradley responds to Gore criticism of private sector life Will he? Won't he? Why would Trump run for president? Leavitt on cover of Governing magazine as top 10 official of the year Hoosier announces plans to run for president in 2000 All claim credit for a prospering America, but who deserves it? Author says she took pay cut to advise Gore for $15,000 a month Clintons will make hefty monthly payments for new house Washington Mayors race still too close to call High Court to hear student fees case --- Netivation.com News --- http://www.netivation.com/new/press/49.html Netivation.com Completes Acquisitions of Three Internet Political Companies -- --CapitolWatch Insider More unconventional candidates for Congress keep appearing. In the Hartford-based First District of Connecticut the likely Republican candidate is former World Wrestling Federation champion Bob Backlund. His resume notes that he wrestled and never lost to Hulk Hogan and Jesse the Body Ventura. That district will need to have a lot of wrestling fans for Backlund to prevail: It's very Democratic. The current occupant is freshman Democrat John Larson. In the 1st District of Texas (the northeast corner of the state, including Texarkana), the GOP has recruited Noble Willingham, the actor who plays C.D. Parker on television's "Walker, Texas Ranger." More to the point, since he's running for the House, is that he also does comedy: he's had roles in "Home Improvement" and "The Dukes of Hazzard" (which spawned former Georgia congressman Ben Jones) and the movie "Ace Ventura: Pet Detective." The incumbent is Democrat Max Sandlin. Perhaps the most bizarre is Independent candidate Ben Thompson, running in Minnesota's 2d District, the southwest part of the state. In the early 1980s he served four years in prison for sexually assulting two teenaged girls. He says he's not the person he was then. Well, that's goodnews for House pages. Democrat David Minge holds the seat today. ~Tiresias CapitolWatch Insider provides news from the inner workings of our nation's capital, including upcoming legislation, what's happening behind the scenes, and how the actions of Congress really affect you. The first person to correctly identify the author of the Tiresias column will receive a copy of Congressional Quarterly's "Politics in America - 2000," due to be published this summer. --CapitolWatch Insider -- Transcripts http://www.capitolwatch.com/transcripts/11-08-99_01.htm PRESIDENT CLINTON DELIVERS WEEKLY RADIO ADDRESS NOVEMBER 6, 1999 SPEAKER: WILLIAM J. CLINTON, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES CLINTON November 8, 1999 http://www.capitolwatch.com/transcripts/11-08-99_02.html REPUBLICAN RESPONSE TO THE PRESIDENT'S RADIO ADDRESS NOVEMBER 6, 1999 November 8, 1999 http://www.capitolwatch.com/transcripts/11-08-99_03.html BILL GATES ADDRESSES FINDINGS OF FACT IN MICROSOFT ANTITRUST CASE NOVEMBER 5, 1999 November 8, 1999 http://www.capitolwatch.com/transcripts/11-08-99_04.html ATTORNEY GENERAL JANET RENO AND ASSISTANT ATTORNEY GENERAL JOEL KLEIN HOLD A MEDIA AVAILABILITY TO REACT TO THE JUDGE'S FINDINGS OF FACT IN THE U.S. V. MICROSOFT ANTITRUST CASE NOVEMBER 5, 1999 November 8, 1999 U.S. House of Representatives E-mail your Representative: mailto: House Roll Call Vote: 553 Description: Encouraging the Secretary of Education, and State and Local Educational Agencies to Promote Financial Literacy Training Date: 11/2/99 Bill: H.CON.RES.213 Action: On Motion to Suspend the Rules and Agree Result: PASSED Yea = 411 Nay = 3 Not Voted = 19 Richard E. Neal voted Yes. House Roll Call Vote: 554 Description: Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that the United States remains committed to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO). Date: 11/2/99 Bill: H.RES.59 Action: On Motion to Suspend the Rules and Agree, as Amended Result: PASSED Yea = 292 Nay = 133 Not Voted = 1 Richard E. Neal voted Yes. House Roll Call Vote: 555 Description: Foreign Narcotics Kingpin Designation Act Date: 11/2/99 Bill: H.R.3164 Action: On Motion to Suspend the Rules and Pass Result: PASSED Yea = 385 Nay = 26 Not Voted = 22 Richard E. Neal voted Yes. House Roll Call Vote: 556 Description: Expressing the sense of Congress that the President should transmit to Congress the President's recommendations for emergency response actions to provide relief to the victims of Hurricane Floyd. Date: 11/2/99 Bill: H.RES.349 Action: On Motion to Suspend
[CTRL] Quote from George Washington - Sound Familiar?
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! "The time is now near at hand which must probably determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves, whether they are to have any property they can call their own, whether their houses and farms are to be pillaged and destroyed and themselves confined to a state of wretchedness from which no human efforts will deliver them. The fate of unborn millions will now depend, under God, on the courage of this army. Our cruel and unrelenting enemy leaves us only the choice of brave resistance or the most abject submission. We have, therefore, to resolve to conquer or die." -- George Washington **COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The President on Online Chat Now!!
Everyone, I have just found out the President, Marc Andreissen, the Democratic Chairman isonline via chat at this address below: s Http://www.townhallmeeting.excite.com/ Let's take advantage of this while we can. Maverick
Re: [CTRL] Hoagland Skeptic News - Sunday #1
-Caveat Lector- At 04:33 PM 08, 11, , 1999 -0500, you wrote: -Caveat Lector- Andrew Hennessey wrote: This rubbish comes on top of his ridiculous allegations DO NOT misconstrue this question as support of Hoagland and his lackeys but all things being equal, do you or ANYONE else have a BETTER explanation of the otherwise inexplicable? I am VERY suspicious of foul play - especially at the number of middle eastern military personnel involved so close to the millenium and so close to israel. But - I am very reluctant to make the motive sound almost 'high minded' and intellectual. The perpetrators of such deeds are low life thugs almost without exception - and if the intelligence community was involved - ultimately it had to have something to do with somebodys secret stash of money and or drugs being compromised. Andrew Hennessey DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Dr R Boylans site
-Caveat Lector- Sorry, my browser does not support clicking on plain text, no matter how pretty the font colors are; it does have to be a hyperlink. :-D __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Catastrophic Theory of Mountain Uplifts
-Caveat Lector- http://www.thule.org/crustaluplift/index.html Catastrophic Theory of Mountain Uplifts (A Crustal Deformation Theory) by DONALD W. PATTEN and SAMUEL R. WINDSOR Introduction Astronomers, geographers, geologists and others search for theory that addresses the causation of mountains. Mountain ranges, mountain systems, mountain cycles, volcanoes, and basaltic outflows all cast shadows over a culture unable to explain their existence. The origin of mountain ranges, mountain systems, volcanoes, etc., comes under the general term "crustal deformation". Other like terms are "mountain uplifts," and "orogeny " Most of the ideas suggested for crustal deformation over the last 150 years offer explanation for only one type of deformation They cannot address the variety on our planet These crustal deformations include upthrust, shear, stress, compression, tension, tilting, dip or slip, and riding. Even of greater importance is the basic underlying question, "What is the source of the energy and force causing change?" The following ideas have been advanced over the years, sometimes only tentatively, other times with more conviction (alphabetically): Convection currents of magma; Differential rotation; Planetary Contraction (and crustal shortening); Planetary Expansion (and crustal stretching); Plate Tectonics; Polar wandering (and Equator bulge relocation) Each of the above theories assumes the presence of only one important planetary gravitational field, the Earth's. Of course, there is the Moon, which creates a twice daily crustal tide of up to 1.5 inches in addition, the Sun creates a twice daily crustal life of up to 1. 5 inches But the Moon is too small and the Sun is too distant to explain mountain uplifting. When working together they can create a crustal tide of only 4. 5 inches A rational theory must provide for a massive uplifting force, a crustal tide of thousands of feet, not just a few inches. A Common feature of these theories is their dependence upon "gradualism. " In the parlance of geology, the dogma of gradualism is called "Uniformitarianism. " This eight syllable word embraces the idea of millions of years for accomplishing anything involving crustal deformation. Explanations based on gradualism always omit rigorous force and stress analysis. Continued.. We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/poleshift DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Modern Alchemy: Red Mercury (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- From: Ash's Mural Gallery: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Museum/3517/Ash/index.html Ashley Rye [EMAIL PROTECTED] Red Mercury and Alchemy The Threat of Red Mercury Since the break-up of the former Soviet Union and the loosening of tough central control, criminal organizations there rapidly gained in strength. Once established, they soon began seeking links with overseas crime syndicates. From 1991, high-level meetings were held with Italian crime godfathers from the Mafia, Comorra and 'Ndranghetta. Close links were forged with them, facilitating the laundering of money and the trade in drugs and illicit nuclear materials.The latter had become available with the administrative chaos and shortage of funds in the Soviet nuclear industry and armed forces. There was no such shortage of funds on the part of those regimes desperate to purchase them. Late in 1993 a disturbing new element appeared. Russian crime syndicates were offering for sale a substance hitherto unknown to the West, called simply `red mercury'. It was said to be a secret product of the Soviet nuclear industry. On 23 December 1993 five Moldavian nationals were caught trying to enter Romania carryinG some pure uranium together with what they said was this red mercury. It was destined for the nuclear black market. Worried Western scientists sought to establish whether this sub- stance actually existed and, if so, exactly what it was. But in 1994 the US Department of Energy and the International Atomic Energy Agency declared red mercury to be `bogus'. They argued that it was just another fraud perpetrated by the Russian mafia on would be purchasers of illicit nuclear goods. But certain Western nuclear physicists had good reason to think otherwise. And they suspected the accusations of fraud to be motiv- ated by the desire to cover up an unpalatable truth. In the June 1994 edition of International Defence Review, nuclear physicist Dr Frank Barnaby wrote of his conversation with an anonymous Soviet physicist. He had been told that this red mercury was a vital component in a revolutionary type of Russian nuclear bomb. It had proved such an efFicient catalyst in the detonation of these devices that they could be built many times smaller and lighter than their Western equivalents. Dr Barnaby explained that with the use of this red mercury a nuclear bomb weighing only four to six pounds could be con- structed. He was concerned since such a weapon could easily be placed in a city centre and detonated. He expressed his fears about the danger of this technology falling into the hands of some terrorist group. His information was that a number of Middle Eastern countries - Israel, Iran, Iraq and Libya - and Pakistan had already illicitly purchased quantities of this substance for weapons produc- tion. At least some of these countries are known supporters of terrorist groups and might be expected to pass on either the technology or the finished product. The reported production of this substance has distinct parallels with the alchemical process. If any alchemists worked in the heart of the Russian military complex with access to modern equipment, it is easy to think of them inventing something like red mercury. According to the Russian scientist, the recipe for making it is as follows : I) Antimony sesquioxide and mercuric oxide are heated together at a temperature of 500 degrees centigrade under one atmospheric pressure of oxygen. This heating must continue without pause or fluctuation for two days. It produces a substance called mercury antimony oxide. This was not described publicly in the scientific press until as recently as 1968. 2) Next dissolve this mercury antimony oxide in pure mercury, using equal weights of each substance. Seal this mixture in a container and place it inside an atomic reactor. Irradiate it for about twenty days at a temperature of 500 degrees centigrade. 3) After this time all excess mercury is tipped off leaving a `cherry red' substance with a consistency similar to liquid honey. Capsules of this thick fluid are placed inside the nuclear bombs. It is indeed curious that this manufacturing procedure should involve mercury and such lengthy reaction times. It is curious too that, in addition to mercury, antimony is involved. The twelfth- century alchemist Artephius wrote of a special tincture which contained both antimony and sublimated mercury for which many dramatic uses were promised. The creation of the initial chemical compound of mercury antimony oxide was admitted only in 1968; red mercury is not yet openly accepted. How many more supposedly impossible substances can be created using chemistry, modern technology and much time? Apart from great patience, perhaps there is more that we can learn from the experiments of the alchemist. But it was not these chemical techniques which lay at the very heart of alchemy. At its deepest and most secret level the experiment was on none
Re: [CTRL] Mind Control - Subliminal Sound
-Caveat Lector- If the psychologist does believe that soundwaves can affect the brain, he is either surprisingly ignorant, or deliberately misinforming you. (He apparently knows nothing of the Monroe Institute and HemiSync.) Everything he claims is suspect IMO, based on this, unfortunately... Regards, Steve On 9 Nov 99, at 7:09, Andrew Hennessey quoted psychologist: I'm very sceptical, this sounds too much like a crackpot project to me. Some reasons for suspicion are the idea that sound waves directly can influence the brain (no evidence for that that I know of) Steve Wingate California Director SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL Anomalous Images and UFO Files http://www.anomalous-images.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] fw: SNET: Essential Command System At Risk For Y2K Fai...
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/7/99 11:09:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Didn't the Defence Dpmt install a Mac system... and Y2K is not a problem with Mac right? It is my understanding that the Mac is vulnerable to Y2k. Y2k. * "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of seas of infinity, and it is not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but someday the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the deadly light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." H.P.Lovecraft; "The Call of Cthulhu" DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] New FDA diet proposed
-Caveat Lector- .. Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: New FDA diet proposed Date: Sunday, November 07, 1999 11:22 PM From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (PHILLIP SISSON) To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Democrats Propose Law That Would Severely Limit Americans' Diets If Senate Democrats have their way, U.S. Citizens will only be allowed to eat Saltine Crackers and all other foods will be banned. WASHINGTON, DC - Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle today proposed legislation that would drastically change the way Americans eat. Said Daschle, "Allowing Americans to eat whatever food they want is costing us Billions in healthcare expenses. Since Americans are constantly abusing their food choice freedom by eating foods that make them fat or cause cancer we have no choice but to take that freedom away for the good of the country." Under Daschele's New "American Dietary Reform Act" each American would be given a few Saltine Crackers, a multi-vitamin and their choice of Regular or Sparkling water to drink as part of a Government mandated diet program. All grocery stores, fast food joints, and restaurants would be shut down and it would become a crime to grow vegetables or raise poultry or cattle. Said Daschle, "It may seem drastic, but we can no longer afford to allow Americans to have the freedom to eat whatever they want. It is putting too great of a strain on our healthcare system." Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott blasted Daschle's 'Dietary Reform Act' claiming that it was the, "worst assualt on personal liberty that he has ever seen proposed in the United States." Said Lott, "If Mr. Daschele is concerned about the cost of taking care of people who suffer from diseases caused by their diets then why doesn't he propose that each American be responsible for his or her own healthcare costs rather than make all of us pay for their bills?" If you would like to receive free e-mail notification when we add new BNN Stories Click Here Emailing this story to a friend using your internet browser is a breeze! To do so, follow the directions below or click on the envelope for more information. Internet Explorer: Select the File Menu Send Page By Email... Netscape: Select the File Menu Send Page © 1999 BNN (Bogus News Network - The Nation's Second Leading Source for Misinformation) http://www.bogusnews.com - You may Freely Distribute this story for non-commercial use IF You Include All Copyright Info, the Website Address and the Disclaimer. Disclaimer: This story is totally false not one shred of it is true! It was created for entertainment purposes ONLY. Any resemblance to the truth is purely coincidental. _ We've got email newsletters galore! Check 'em out at Topica. http://www.topica.com/t/5Forwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/formaddress.html For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text in body: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Every Diet Has Failed! What Can I do? Click Below to "Ask Dr. Kathleen"! http://www.radiantdiet.com/cgi-bin/slim/deliver.cgi?ask-1364 *** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[CTRL] Fwd(2): Anti-WTO Activists Denied U.S. Entry by Clinton Administration
-Caveat Lector- To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Global Response [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Anti-WTO Activists Denied U.S. Entry by Clinton Administration Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 13:02:22 -0800 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Loop: 70852 Dear Members of the Global Response "Quick Response Network:" Please send letters, faxes or emails to U.S. President Clinton, protesting his administration's denial of visas to activists who want to be in Seattle for the "Protest of the Century" against the World Trade Organization. For information about the Seattle protest, see www.globalresponse.org, www.peopleforfairtrade.org, www.seattle99.org. Write to: Bill Clinton, President The White House 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Washington DC 20500 Fax: Int'l code + 1- 202/456-2461 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thursday October 28, 6:27 pm Eastern Time Company Press Release SOURCE: Pennsylvania Consumer Action Network PCAN: Anti-WTO Activists Denied U.S. Entry by Clinton Administration Human Rights Activists, Grassroots Activists Prevented from Attending WTO Ministerium in Seattle, Ask `What is Clinton Afraid Of?' NEW YORK, Oct. 28 /PRNewswire/ -- An international gathering of grassroots activists from around the world begins its cross-country trek today minus nine of its key members due to a decision by the Clinton Administration to deny them visas. The organizers of the trek, dubbed ``The Road to Seattle, Peoples' Global Action Cross Country Caravan'' blame a decision by Clinton's State Department to stifle opposition to the upcoming World Trade Organization (WTO) Ministerium in Seattle. The caravan includes women and men from about a dozen countries who believe that the WTO meeting will sow the seeds for further erosion of human rights, environmental protections and health and safety standards. The caravan is being organized under the auspices of Peoples' Global Action (PGA), an international movement which believes that the WTO is fundamentally flawed, is beyond reform and must be abolished. It is because of this stance that the activists are being excluded from the United States. Those excluded include Siwakoti Gopal and six other members of the Nepalese human rights organization INHURED as well as Badrul Alum and Pradip Kumar Roy, director of the Bangladesh' Krishok Federation. Gopal received his degree in law in the U.S., teaches human rights and international law in Nepal. He also received endorsements for his visa application from U.S.-based organizations and Members of Congress. Despite this support, he was still denied his visa. ``With these credentials, who would be allowed to enter the U.S. if not him?'' asked Michael Morrill, one of the U.S. organizers of the caravan. ``They just ignored all these letters and financial guarantees,'' stated Gopal. ``They [U.S. Embassy officials] did not even look at them. They said that they did not have to [give the visas]. They were also questioning our organizations and our personal integrity. They were very abusive. It was a terrible humiliation for all of us!'' ``Two weeks ago President Clinton said he was not concerned about the massive protests planned for the WTO summit,'' continued Morrill. ``Now his administration is hard at work to keep the protest out.'' Activists from India, the United Kingdom, Israel, Bolivia, Germany and Panama are already in the U.S. to begin the caravan. Among them is Mr. Sanjay Mangala who is representing a movement, which is heading the resistance against dam-projects in the Narmada Valley in India. Activists in London scaled the world's biggest Ferris wheel three days ago, attracting global attention and highlighting the money interests of transnational corporations, the World Bank and Western governments in dam building projects such as those in the Narmada Valley. Michael Charder, who is involved with Reclaim The Streets, London said, ``This action has been linked to PGA. It's only too obvious the U.S. government is afraid of our global resistance, and tries to counteract this by not allowing protesters visas.'' SOURCE: Pennsylvania Consumer Action Network [Global Reponse] -- GLOBAL RESPONSE is an international letter-writing network of environmental activists. In partnership with indigenous, environmentalist and peace and justice organizations around the world, GLOBAL RESPONSE develops "Actions" that describe specific, urgent threats to the environment; each "Action" asks members to write personal letters to individuals in the corporations, governments or international organizations that have the power and responsibility to take corrective action. GR also issues "Young Environmentalists' Actions" and "Eco-Club Actions" designed to educate and motivate elementary and high school students to practice earth
Re: [CTRL] ABOLISH THE FDA?--YES!
-Caveat Lector- .. Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: j [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ABOLISH THE FDA?--YES! Date: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 5:27 PM FDA is just another manifestation of "NANNY GOVERNMENT" and like virtually ALL the restcorrupt and inefficient. I did some research on STEVIA... a plant whose leaves are 300 time sweeter than sugar, and which is grown as a commercial crop in Asia and Canada but not FDA approved. Rumor has it that Nutrisweet 'donated' many millions to make sure this natural sweetener does not get 'authorized' by the FDA in America! Go to any search machine and run 'stevia' and see what comes up! Forwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/formaddress.html For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text in body: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Every Diet Has Failed! What Can I do? Click Below to "Ask Dr. Kathleen"! http://www.radiantdiet.com/cgi-bin/slim/deliver.cgi?ask-1364 *** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Richardson produces documents at last minute (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Nothing like waiting til the last minute... Richardson makes 11th-hour offer of documents, avoids subpoena 6.35 p.m. ET (2345 GMT) November 8, 1999 By Tom Raum, Associated Press WASHINGTON (AP) - Energy Secretary Bill Richardson made an 11th-hour offer of a classified document to a House subcommittee Monday, moments before the panel was to vote to subpoena the material in an inquiry into the alleged Chinese theft of nuclear missile warhead technology secrets. Richardson made the offer in separate phone calls to Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif. , chairman of the Armed Services Committee's military procurement panel, and to Rep. Norman Sisisky, D-Va.., the subcommittee's senior Democrat, Hunter and Sisisky announced. The panel met and took no action on the proposed subpoena, agreeing to take Richardson at his word. Hunter said, however, that if the document wasn't delivered to the panel Tuesday morning, "then we will have another meeting tomorrow afternoon and we will issue the subpoena.'' At issue is written testimony - prepared for an Oct. 6, 1998, committee meeting - by Notra Trulock, the Energy Department intelligence officer who triggered an investigation into alleged Chinese spying at the nation's nuclear weapons labs. Trulock, who later resigned, has said he was prevented by superiors - including Elizabeth Moler, then deputy energy secretary - from sharing information with Congress about the Los Alamos investigation. The subcommittee demanded the original, unedited and classified copy of Trulock's testimony in a March 24 letter to Richardson. Hunter contends the testimony he actually gave the committee was heavily edited by the administration. "I think we've been very patient on this matter,'' Hunter said. "Dr. Trulock had prepared testimony for this committee. That testimony had been changed. We don't know what Dr. Trulock was going to tell us.'' Hunter asserted Energy Department officials "didn't tell us the truth'' in October 1998 when they said there had been no recent cases of thefts of nuclear missile technology secrets from the Los Alamos nuclear weapons laboratory in New Mexico. A former Los Alamos computer scientist, Wen Ho Lee, was fired in March for violating security rules. Although not charged with a crime, he has been the FBI's prime target in the nearly four-year investigation of the alleged thefts. Lee, a Taiwan-born computer scientist who worked with the top-secret weapons design team at Los Alamos since the late 1970s, has denied giving any secrets to China and has accused the government of singling him out because he is Chinese-American. China has repeatedly rejected any allegations of espionage. Sisisky cautioned that "nothing has been proven that anything has been stolen,'' but added that the panel is entitled to the unedited testimony. "Some of us might not agree on the need for the document, but that is another matter.'' = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: new list Lost tribes of Israel
-Caveat Lector- If anyone wishes to subscribe to the latest reseach on the migrations of the12 tribes of Israel free newletter (written by Israelis) - please request through this email and forward it back to the address below. I have found them very good. Regards, Nicky -Original Message- From: yair davidi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, 3 November 1999 1:18 Subject: new list Shalom, We will be shortly cancelling the present list and creating a new one. The new list will hopefully be an improvement on the old. The intention is to send out 3 to 6 fairly short messages each week. If you have suggestions please send them. The list is being re-constructed mainly because there are addresses registered on it that relay the messages to other secondary addresses. A couple of these "other secondary" addresses have complained of "spamming" but cannot or will not say which address on our list is theirs. They therefore cannot be removed. They have complained to our server which in accordance with Internet Protocol has threatened to discontinue its services. As a result it has been decided to create a new list the members of which will all have expressly said in advance that they wish to be subscribed. We apologize for the inconvenience and hope that the intended improved quality will compensate for it. If you wish to subscribe please say so. Even if you asked IN THE PAST to be subscribed to the present list you are requested to express anew your intention to subscribe to the new one. This is a free service. No money will be asked of you for this service. If you wish to help you may send a donation or purchase a publication but you are not expected to do so. WE APPRECIATE AND VALUE YOUR MEMBERSHIP OF OUR LIST FOR ITS OWN SAKE. We believe we have an obligation to promote knowledge of and interest in this subject and this is one of the ways we do it. We also enjoy it. IF YOU WISH TO SUBSCRIBE PRESS YOUR REPLY BUTTON AND WRITE: YES The 2nd edition of "The Tribes" is now available. This work contains information of great interest that you need to know. By purchasing the book you will also be assisting us to further this message. "The Tribes" costs $30 or its equivalent in other currency. The price includes postage by airmail. It may be ordered with a check drawn on your local bank and sent to: Yair Davidy POB 595 Jerusalem 91004 Israel DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Teflon Bob and Banking Deregulation
-Caveat Lector- .. Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: John Hermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John Hermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 7 November 1999 9:20 PM Subject: Teflon Bob and Banking Deregulation Economic Reform Australia ERA EMAIL NETWORK Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 Teflon Bob and Banking Deregulation By Russell Mokhiber and Robert Weissman Few top government officials, whether elected or appointed, have managed to emerge as unscathed from a half dozen years in the Washington, D.C. spotlight as former Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin. And Rubin did better than escape without scratches -- he ended his term of office with his image enhanced. Wall Street and the financial press practically beatified him for his role in overseeing the global economy through difficult times and working in tandem with Federal Reserve Chair Alan Greenspan to keep the U.S. economy working smoothly. Rubin helped precipitate the Asian financial crisis which has inflicted untold suffering on tens of millions, orchestrated the bailout of foreign bankers and investors in connection with the Mexican and Asian financial disasters, and crafted or helped implement domestic policies that ensured the overwhelming portion of benefits from economic growth would go to the rich -- but none of this managed to sully the reputation of the Secretary Rubin. Now Teflon Bob appears on the verge of demonstrating that his immunity to criticism makes Ronald Reagan look like he was coated with bubble gum. When he stepped down from his Treasury post this past summer, Rubin left unfinished a legislative effort to re-write the nation's banking laws. Misnamed "financial modernization" legislation was really a deregulatory initiative -- reminiscent of the SL deregulation that led to a corporate crime spree, the collapse of the industry and the subsequent taxpayer bailout of epic proportions. The centerpiece of the deregulatory bill, which different fragments of the finance industry have pushed for a decade and a half, is the repeal of the revered Glass-Steagall Act, which bars the common ownership of banks on the one hand, and insurance companies and securities firms on the other. Although powerful interests have long backed the legislation, it has repeatedly failed to make it through Congress because of a maze of intra-industry disputes, turf fights between different parts of the federal regulatory structure, and the concerted efforts of consumer and community development advocates. Another failure seemed possible or likely this fall, especially as Senate Banking Chair Phil Gramm, R-Texas, refused to compromise on privacy and community development issues. Another failure, however, was not acceptable to one company above all -- Citigroup. The product of the merger between Citibank and Travelers, Citigroup is operating in apparent violation of the bar on common ownership of banking, and insurance and securities, thanks to a loophole that provides for a two-year transition period. Enter Robert Rubin. According to a report in the New York Times, Rubin helped broker the final compromise language on financial deregulation. And while he was brokering a deal between Congress and the White House, he was also, according to the New York Times account, negotiating his own deal with Citigroup. A few days after the banking deal was finalized, Citigroup announced it was hiring Rubin as a de facto co-chair of the corporation. This chronology and these arrangements raise serious issues about whether federal ethics statutes and informal Clinton administration rules have been violated. Rubin told the New York Times that he was proud of his work in preserving the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA -- an important law that requires banks to make loans in minority and lower-income communities in which they do business). In fact, the final version of the bill significantly weakens CRA: there will be no ongoing sanctions against holding company banks that fail to meet CRA standards, it will lessen the number of CRA examinations, and provisions of the bill will discourage community groups from challenging banks' CRA records. And the weakening of the CRA is only one element of the finance industry's deregulatory wish list which is included in the compromise legislation. The bill will: * Pave the way for a new round of record-shattering financial industry mergers, dangerously concentrating political and economic power; * Create too-big-to-fail institutions that are someday likely to drain the public treasury as taxpayers bail out imperiled financial giants to protect the stability of the nation's banking system; * Leave financial regulatory authority spread among a half dozen federal and 50 state agencies, all uncoordinated, that will be overmatched by the soon-to-be financial goliaths; *
[CTRL] Hemp awareness campaign in Chicago, by Alterna Applied Research Laboratories
-Caveat Lector- If you are interested in commercial hemp, read this. Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart ARTICLE: Alterna Blankets Chicago With Hemp AUTHOR: Kimberlee Mitchell, Los Angeles DATE: Monday, 8 November 1999, at 11:32 a.m. The ads will reach over 2.4 million drivers challenging Chicagoans to learn more about hemp. Pubdate: October 28, 1999 - In a continued effort to educate the nation about industrial drug-free hemp, Alterna Applied Research Laboratories, maker of professional hemp hair care products, brings its national, thought-provoking advertising and scholarship campaign to Chicago, Illinois. During the months of November and December dialog-generating ads will be posted on seventy billboards in the greater Chicago area. The ads will reach over 2.4 million drivers challenging Chicagoans to learn more about hemp. Since incorporating industrial hemp seed oil into its products in January of 1998, Alterna has undertaken an aggressive, national hemp education campaign, called LEARN MORE, which is designed to dispel myths and misinformation about the marked differences between hemp and marijuana. Launching the campaign first in Los Angeles, the crusade is moving across the nation and has touched down in Moline, Illinois, San Diego, New York, Boston, San Francisco and now Chicago. A consummate education advocate, Alterna conducts hemp essay contests in high schools awarding a college scholarship for the best entry. Education is the key to enlightenment and the fact that legislation to revive hemp recently passed in Hawaii, North Dakota and Minnesota proves one thing; hemp education is working. Kentucky, Montana, Virginia, Arkansas, Vermont, Oregon, Colorado and Illinois have introduced pro-hemp legislation to their state legislatures. The deluge of hemp media coverage in the past year has also helped educate the nation. Alterna supports pro-hemp legislation and hopes to drive the public to the website to spur education and to get enterprising students to apply for the essay contest. Illinois State Senator and devout industrial hemp advocate Todd Sieben sees the benefits of this drug-free miracle plant and has taken steps toward legalizing the farming of it in Illinois. "It's time to seriously consider industrial hemp production here in Illinois, declares Senator Sieben who firmly believes in the environmental, agricultural and economic benefits of industrial hemp. With the support of several legislatures in Illinois, Senate Resolution 49 and House Resolution 168 passed into law in March of 1999 resulting in the creation of Illinois' first Industrial Hemp Investigative and Advisory Task Force. The members of this group represent expertise in the fields of plant science, food processing science, law enforcement, herbology, manufacturing and the Illinois Specialty Growers Association. The task force will investigate all aspects of hemp cultivation in Illinois and report to the General Assembly on the advisability of it in January of 2000. Alterna's seventy billboard images engage the public eye by displaying a green hemp leaf with the words "THC (Drug) free" clearly written below it with a bottle of the hemp shampoo and the word "HEMP" emblazoned across the ad. The company's phone number and website address is also prominently displayed so the public can learn more about hemp's vast benefits by calling or logging on to the website. Information regarding the hemp essay contest for a college scholarship is also posted on the website. By associating a hemp leaf with the word "HEMP" and the phrase "THC (Drug) free" in the ads, Alterna sends a clear message to the public that the company is opposed to the drug culture. Furthermore, Alterna is steadfast about not aligning itself with any group that advocates the use or legalization of marijuana. Unconventional in its approach, Alterna consistently sets new standards in the beauty industry in the fields of advanced formulation and product performance. The first professional hair care company to harness the power of nutrient-rich hemp seed oil, Alterna continually redefines itself as an industry innovator. Alterna products are available through authorized Alterna salons in the United States and Canada. For more information on Alterna hair care products or to find the nearest salon, call toll-free 1-888-4Alterna or log onto the website at HYPERLINK http://www.4Alterna.com LEARN MORE Alterna Essay Competition The LEARN MORE contest is an essay competition sponsored by Alterna on the dual theme of How Hemp Can Change the World as We Know it and Why Hemp is Not a Drug. All current high school students in the Chicago area enrolled in the 1999-2000 school year are eligible to enter. A $2,500 scholarship will be invested in trust for the winner and awarded upon attendance of a college or university. All essays must be mailed or
Re: [CTRL] Report from Iron Mountain
-Caveat Lector- "Tatman, Robert" wrote: -Caveat Lector- I read *Report from Iron Mountain* when it first came out. Everybody back then understood that it was a spoof of the Herman Kahn-Henry Kissinger "Thinking About the Unthinkable" type of book, replete with scenarios and doomsday analyses. This kind of thinking was more blatantly spoofed in "Doctor Strangelove", specifically in the character Doctor Strangelove, played by Peter Sellers. Sure, there was some stuff in *Iron Mountain* that sounded very much like what was coming from think tanks like RAND or Hudson Institute, but after all that's what the book was satirizing. Well your a sharper tool than I. I always took it seriously up until several years ago when the author " came out." I was quite young when I read it. But the point is that now it's become foundation literature among the loony Right who take it very seriously. I don't know what it is with these rednecks, they are always twenty years behind in their readings and their haircuts. Joshua2 -Original Message- From: Nurev Ind Research [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 8:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Report from Iron Mountain -Caveat Lector- Dave wrote: -Caveat Lector- Report from Iron Mountain snip Report From Iron Mountain is not for real . it was done as a literary joke by the author who says so in a preface to the new publications of the book. The ideas are very interesting though, and are worth reading. Joshua2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Russian Nukes Hidden in US?
-Caveat Lector- (http://www.foxnews.com/js_index.sml?content=/national/110799/nukes_post.sml) Pols Fear Russian Nuclear Weapons Are Hidden in U.S. 2.43 a.m. ET (1943 GMT) November 7, 1999 WASHINGTON A Pennsylvania congressman is warning the FBI that there may be old, suitcase-size Soviet nuclear bombs buried throughout the United States. So far, FBI agents have already combed through Brainerd, Minn., hoping to discover secret stockpiles of everything from nuclear weapons to pistols, radios, maps and currency, congressional sources told The New York Post. "There is no doubt that the Soviets stored material in this country. The question is what and where," Rep. Curt Weldon, R-Pa., told The Post. The FBI has refused to confirm that account, or to comment on the stories that Soviet nukes may be floating around the country. Weldon, an expert on Cold War Russia, says the former Soviet Union produced 132 suitcase-sized, 10-kiloton nuclear weapons, but hasn't fessed up to where 84 of them are, meaning they could have been sold to other countries or might even still be stationed at secret sites in the U.S. Right now, bombs could be laying in wait in upstate New York, California, Texas, Montana and Minnesota, he said. He draws his conclusions from the congressional testimony of KGB defector Vasili Mitrokhin and nationalist Russian Gen. Alexander Lebed. Weldon teaches a class on Russia at Widener University in Pennsylvania, and has been to the country 19 times. FBI Director Louis Freeh admitted to the congressman two weeks ago that there might hidden weapons caches in the U.S., but he's refused to perform anything but a perfunctory search, Weldon said. The only way the FBI will be able to find these suitcase bombs is if Russia hands over KGB files, Weldon said. Weldon said that until Russia agrees to turn over KGB files on the location of the suitcases, it's highly unlikely the FBI could find the stockpiles. "The administration is not asking the right questions," Weldon said. He says President Clinton doesn't want to rock the boat for ailing President Boris Yeltsin, the administrations strongest ally in the tumultuous former Soviet Union. Two weeks ago, a former KGB agent and a British scholar both added fuel to the reports of buried weapons when they testified to the House Armed Services subcommittee on military research and development, which Weldon chairs. Col. Oleg Gordievsky, the highest-ranking KGB agent ever to defect, and Christopher Andrew, a professor at Cambridge University and author of a book about the KGB, both said that based on KGB documents and what's happened in other NATO countries, they believe small nuclear bombs are buried in caches across the United States. However, they said it wasnt a certainty. The KGB had standing orders to blow up power stations, dams, telecommunications centers and landing strips for Air Force One in the event of war, according to Russian experts, including Stanislav Lunev, a former Russian military intelligence official who defected to the United States in 1992. There have long been accusations that the Soviets smuggled weapons and other equipment with a military use into the United States during the Cold War. But the charges finally seemed to be turning into a reality in September, when prosecutors in Belgium confirmed that they had found three secret depots filled with radio sets that had been buried in the 1960s. Steve Berry, an FBI spokesman, last Thursday told The Post the agency had "no comment" about reports of possible suitcase bombs and buried weapons caches in the United States. But he acknowledged that FBI experts are familiar with the claims outlined by Mitrokhin, who has passed scores of KGB documents to the West. On Oct. 22, Weldon and Rep. James Oberstar, D-Minn., sent Secretary of State Madeleine Albright a letter alerting her to the charges by the KGB agents and urging the administration to "aggressively pursue the Russian government to identify all pre-deployed weapons sites in the United States, and ... eliminate such remnants of the Cold War." Weldon said he will release her reply when he receives one. "From the rage of today's downtrodden comes the revenge of tomorrow's revolutionary force. " Edward Britton + http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5285/connector1.html Reality Pump: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/Reality_Pump2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary
[CTRL] OT: Falun Gong Won't Fold (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- AS reported by CBS News: Falun Gong Won't Fold Falun Gong Outnumbers Communist Party Falun Gong, a mixture of Buddhism and founder Master Li's special, slow-motion exercises, is sweeping China, where it is banned. China's communist rulers today escalated their campaign against the new religion, CBS News' Barry Petersen reports. They vowed to crush what they say is a cult and announced the first criminal charges against its leaders. Officials were shocked when ten thousand Falun Gong members surrounded a government complex just off Tiananmen Square last April to protest their treatment. It was the largest anti-government demonstration since pro-democracy students took over the square in 1989. Falun Gong members are being arrested by the thousands, in a government attack even more intense since the state-run paper, The People's Daily, warned that the party will not show the "devil cult" any mercy. At a secretly arranged news conference in Beijing, Ding Yan showed off her bruises from allegedly being handcuffed while in police custody. "After they tie you like this," she said, "they throw you on the ground." Eleven year old Qu Yuyan was expelled from school for his belief. A former policeman gave up his job rather than give up Falun Gong. Believers see this as a holy war -- religious faith versus communist force. It's a dangerous battle. The government has banned the group and now has a new anti-subversive law ordering authorities to persecute Falun Gong even harder. There are Falun Gong followers all over the world, but the biggest group is in China, where their number is said to be between 70 to 100 million. That's more members than there are in the Chinese communist party. And that's why the Chinese government sees Falun Gong as a threat. SOURCES: Copyright 1999, CBS Worldwide Inc., All Rights Reserved. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Panama Canal bill introduced!
-Caveat Lector- The John Birch Society Email Alert Network - November 8, 1999 Save Our Canal! Key Development: Congressman Helen Chenoweth-Hage (R-ID) has introduced the "Panama Canal Treaty Nullification Act," a joint resolution which would declare the Panama Canal treaties null and void. This legislation is so new that a bill number has not yet been assigned as of this alert! Recommendation: Contact your representative and senators in favor of the "Panama Canal Treaty Nullification Act" immediately! Key congressional contact information: Email: http://www.jbs.org/congress/ Phone: Capitol Hill switchboard - (202) 224-3121 Status: It is the 11th hour! The Panama Canal evacuation is continuing and will be complete at noon on December 31st, unless Congress can be roused into action before then. Furthermore, Congress is expected to go out of session at the end of this week. If we can not get a vote on this legislation this week, calling Congress into a special session for a vote before the end of the year will be very difficult. Additional Resources: More information on the Panama Canal situation can be found at: http://www.jbs.org/canal/ To subscribe or unsubscribe from this email network go to: http://www.jbs.org/emailfrm.htm The John Birch Society http://www.jbs.org "First we will take Russia, next we will capture the nations of eastern Europe, then we will take the masses of Asia. Finally, we will surround the United States and that last bastion of freedom will fall into our hands like over- ripe fruit." -Lenin ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Patriot Resource Center: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/6627/ **Live Free or Die!** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Affidavit of Edward P. Cutolo
-Caveat Lector- No doubt you guys are familiar with this. Is it real? Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart AFFIDAVIT OF EDWARD P. CUTOLO I, Edward P. Cutolo, having been duly sworn, do state under oath; 1. I am currently the Commanding Officer of the 10th Special Forces Group (Airborne), 1st Special Forces, Fort Devens, Massachusetts. 2. I swear affirmation to the contents of this affidavit freely and without coercion or threat to my person. 3.In Dec., 1975, I spoke with Col. "Bo" Baker concerning a classified mission he commanded during that month, inside Colombia. The mission was known as Watch Tower. 4. Following a lengthy discussion with Col. Baker, I was introduced to Mr. Edwin Wilson and Mr. Frank Terpil. Both Wilson and Terpil were in the employ of the Central Intelligence Agency. Both Wilson and Terpil inquired if I was interested in working for short periods of time in Colombia and I acknowledged that I was. 5. In Feb., 1976, I commanded the second Watch Tower Mission into Columbia. 6. The purpose of Operation Watch Tower was to establish a series of three electronic beacon towers beginning outside of Bogota, Colombia and running northeast to the border of Panama. Once the Watch Tower teams (Special Action Teams) were in place, the beacon was activated to emit a signal that aircraft could fix on and fly undetected from Bogota into Panama, then land at Albrook Air Station. 7. During the Feb., 1976, Watch Tower Mission, 30 high performance aircraft landed safely at Albrook Air Station where the planes were met by Col. Tony Noriega, who is a Panama Defence Force Officer currently assigned to the Customs and Intelligence Section. Noriega normally was in the company of other PDF officers known to me as Major Diaz Herrera, Major Luis del Cid, Major Ramirez. Also present at most of the arrivals, was Edwin Wilson, and an unidentified male Israeli national. 8. The cargo flown from Colombia into Panama was cocaine. 9. The male Israeli national was identified and known to members of the 570th Military Intelligence Group in Panama who only specified that this individual had the authority from the U.S. Army Southern Command in Panama to be in the A.O. 10. In March, 1976, a third Watch Tower Mission was implemented and I was in command of that mission which lasted 29 days and engaged in the same tactics used in the Feb., 1976, mission. The March mission encountered a serious accident and resulted in several SAT members being injured from wounds suffered while attempting to exfiltrate from Colombia across the border into Panama where helicopters were waiting to extract them. 11. The March, 1976 mission incident occurred as the SAT that was on station at Turbo, Colombia, encountered 40 to 50 armed men. Action Intelligence reports identified the armed men as local bandits. In regards to this incident the helicopters waiting in Panama, to extract the SAT, entered Colombian air space without authorization and successfully extracted the SAT, after an estimated six or seven minute fire fight. 12. During the March, 1976, Watch Tower Mission, 40 high proformance aircraft landed safely at Albrook Air Station where they were met in previously related fashion by those named. 13. After the Watch Tower Mission in March, 1976, I lost touch with several of the men who had served on the SATs, but made no attempt to locate them. 14. In 1978, I assumed command of the 10th Special Forces Group (Airborne) at Fort. Devens and recognized two soldiers. 15. The two soldiers I recognized were assigned to 10th Special Forces Group (Airborne). One was assigned to a Special Forces Operational Detachment Alpha in the 3rd Battalion, Sgt. John Newby. The other had just been reassigned off an Operational Detachment Alpha following a criminal Investigation Division matter being levied against him. PFC William Tyree. Tyree was reassigned to a Forward Support Team but had been carried for the preceding month on 2nd Battalion's roster. 16. Upon the assumption of command, I created and implemented 12 separate SATs. Their mission was to implement Army Regulation 340-18-5 (file number 503-05). My authority for this action came directly from FORSCOM through Edwin Wilson who appeared before me in my office at 10th Special Forces Group Headquarters. This action was taken to develop surveillance of politicians, judicial figures, law enforcement agencies at the state level, and of religious figures. 17. Mr. Edwin Wilson explained that it was considered that Operation Watch Tower might be compromised and become known if politicians, judicial figures, police and religious entities were approached or received word that U.S. Troops had aided in delivering narcotics from Columbia into Panama. Based on that possibility, intense surveillance was undertaken by my office to ensure if Watch Tower became known of, the U.S. government and the Army would have advance warning and could prepare a defense.
[CTRL] Sun Cruiser
-Caveat Lector- Hi, I have deleted who asked me for the suncruiser image, this is a site for all those lasco and soho images http://lasco-www.nrl.navy.mil/#images This site shows the Suncruiser http://www.wolflodge.org/stargate/sc2.htm Peter We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/poleshift DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Forest Service boss in Nevada quits, cites hostility toward federal workers
-Caveat Lector- http://www.foxnews.com/news/wires2/1108/n_ap_1108_388.sml Forest Service boss in Nevada quits, cites hostility toward federal workers 6.12 p.m. ET (2322 GMT) November 8, 1999 By Scott Sonner, Associated Press RENO, Nev. (AP) The Forest Service supervisor in charge of national forests in Nevada abruptly announced her resignation Monday, citing an atmosphere of "hostility and distrust'' toward federal employees in the state. Locked in a battle over protection of the threatened bull trout as well as mining and livestock grazing controversies in Nevada, Gloria Flora said she intends to leave her post soon after the first of the year. "Fed-bashing is a sport here and I refuse to sit by quietly and let it happen as many others are doing,'' Flora, supervisor of the Humboldt-Toiyabe National Forest, said in a statement. "I hope that my departure will call attention to this situation.'' Flora, who said she'll consider reassignment to another Forest Service post, became supervisor in July 1998 of the Humboldt-Toiyabe the largest national forest in the Lower 48 states. Most recently, she has angered some county, state and federal officials involved in a dispute over threatened bull trout in Elko County, where officials want to rebuild a remote road inside the national forest. "We have accomplished some outstanding natural resource work, however, the atmosphere of hostility and distrust toward federal employees is unacceptable,'' Flora said. Forest Service scientists say reconstruction of the road, which was wiped out in a flood in 1995, could push the last surviving bull trout in Nevada into extinction. A citizen work crew led by state Assemblyman John Carpenter backed down from plans to defy the Forest Service and rebuild the road after politicians worried about violence and a federal judge issued a restraining order against them. Jack Blackwell, regional forester in charge of the Forest Service's Intermountain Region, said he understands Flora's reasons for leaving. "The Forest Service is in the middle of controversy about natural resource issues everywhere in the country, but the acrimony and attitude toward the agency, its employees and other federal employees in Nevada are extremely troubling to me,'' Blackwell said. [EMAIL PROTECTED] © 1999, News America Digital Publishing, Inc. d/b/a Fox News Online. All rights reserved. Fox News is a registered trademark of 20th Century Fox Film Corp. © 1999 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. -- --- NOTE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml --- DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Man denies threatening with poison
-Caveat Lector- http://www.tampatrib.com/mt110913.htm 11/9/99 -- 1:09 AM Man denies threatening with poison By ACE ATKINS of The Tampa Tribune TAMPA - A Seminole Heights man charged with threatening two Colorado judges makes a first appearance in federal court. As James Kenneth Gluck was led into federal court Monday, he denied sending threatening letters to two Colorado judges or plotting biological warfare in his Seminole Heights home. Gluck, 53, said that kind of alchemy - turning peas into toxic gas - is impossible and that his religious rights are being violated. Whisked away by FBI agents, he was unable to explain the connection between his faith and allegedly having the ingredients to make what agents call ``the third most toxic substance known to man.'' Saturday, Tampa police sealed off a block of Central Avenue and called in a team of specialists from Washington, D.C., to search for the poison ricin in Gluck's home. One milligram of 100 percent ricin taken orally can kill an adult and has no known antidote. The poison is made from castor beans and rosary peas that grow wild in Florida. In the home he shares with a Florida Orchestra violist, at 4018 N. Central Ave., agents say they found ingredients for the poison, several antigovernment books such as the ``Anarchist Cookbook'' and a black-powder pistol and rifle. Monday, Gluck sat before U.S. Magistrate Mary S. Scriven, rocking in his chair and smiling. Sometimes he flippantly answered the judge's questions. Special Agent Kerry Myers, a weapons of mass destruction expert and bomb technician for the FBI, took the charges more seriously. ``He threatened military force and to kill approximately 10,000 people,'' Myers said. A letter was received by a judge on the Colorado Court of Appeals on Sept. 21 concerning one of Gluck's cases. In August 1997, a judge in Jefferson County, Colo., ruled against Gluck for illegally storing metal, wood, plastic and junk on his property, according to a report in the Denver Rocky Mountain News. In 1989, Gluck was fined $274 for illegally possessing a dead barn owl. He later hung the owl's body on a tree and said he had ``consigned the owl back to nature,'' the report states. The September letter to the judge praises the Columbine High School shooting and the way the incident ``shook authority.'' It states that anyone with knowledge of explosives could easily take down the Jefferson County Justice Center with only a pickup truck. The letter mentions ricin last as ``a quintessential American weapon for `making a killing' (literally) without any responsibility because it cannot be determined who used it and it cannot be determined where it came from.'' The letter was signed ``James Kenneth Gluck'' and had a postscript: ``Welcome to the New Year 5760 Judge Taubman, and to the 21st Christian century, and to the weapons of that century.'' Details of the second letter were not available. FBI spokesman Brian Kensel downplayed the arrest. ``This is actually a pretty routine case,'' he said. ``It's just a different choice of weapon. Usually they threaten to blow up or strangle. This is just a modern twist.'' Gluck is being held without bail. Ace Atkins covers law enforcement and can be reached at (813) 259-7800 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- --- NOTE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml --- DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[CTRL] Bad Ads
-Caveat Lector- Good Humor - Bad Ads 1) Dinner Special-Turkey $2.35; Chicken or Beef $2.25; Children $2.00 2) For Sale: an antique desk sutible for lady with thick legs and large drawers. 3) Now is your chance to have your ears pierced and get extra pair to take home too. 4) Wanted: 50 girls for stripping machine operators in factory. 5) Wanted: Unmarried girls to pick fresh fruit and produce at night. 6) We do not tear your clothing with machinery. We do it carefully by hand. 7) Tired of cleaning yourself? Let me do it. 8) Dog for sale; eats anything and is fond of children. 9) Get rid of aunts, Zap does the job in 24 hours. 10) Man wanted to work in dynamite factory. Must be willing to travel. 11) Used Cars: Why go somewhere else to be cheated? Come here first. 12) Wanted: Man to take care of cow that does not smoke or drink. 13) 3-year old teacher needed for preschool. Experience preferred. 14) Our bikinis are exciting. They are simply the tops. 15) Auto Repair Service. Free pick-up and delivery. Try us once, you'll never go anywhere again. 16) Illiterate? Write today for free help. 17) Illiterate? Call: 1-800-ABC-DEFG DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Burning black churches for profit
-Caveat Lector- Pastor Accused in Texas Church Fire WICHITA FALLS, Texas (AP) -- A minister and three other people were accused of burning down a church in 1996 to collect $270,000 in insurance. The Rev. Theophilus Thompson, pastor of the Full Gospel Power House Church of God in Christ, was free today after posting a $150,000 bond. The other three suspects, Wilma Monday, Dusty Dean Williams and Christopher Charles Johnson, did not immediately post bonds and were being held at the Wichita County Jail. The arrests Sunday night came less than two weeks before a statute of limitations on the case expired. Wichita Falls Fire Chief Ronnie James confirmed the arrests but declined to give details. Thompson's telephone number was unlisted, and he could not immediately be reached. When the blaze was set on Nov. 20, 1996, more than 100 predominantly black churches-mainly in the South-had been burned in less than two years. Thompson formed the predominantly black congregation in 1960. Ms. Monday and her husband, James, purchased the church building in 1993 from the Methodist Church, and as part of the purchase agreement, took out an insurance policy for $270,000. AP-NY-11-08-99 1248EST DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FW: Canadian ex-minister questions Peltier extradition
-Caveat Lector- Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart -Original Message- From: MichaelP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 10:46 AM To: unlikely.suspects :; Subject: Canadian ex-minister questions Peltier extradition November 7, 1999 Truth buried at Wounded Knee Former minister's report raises more questions about Peltier extradition By PETER WORTHINGTON -- Sun Media As anyone who has ever tried, even in a minor way, to correct an injustice knows, it can be a long, arduous, frustrating, tortuous path. Just ask Warren Allmand. When Native activist Leonard Peltier was arrested in Canada in 1976 and extradited to the U.S. for the 1975 shooting deaths of two FBI agents during a range war on South Dakota's Pine Ridge reserve (near Wounded Knee), Allmand was first Canada's solicitor-general and then minister of Indian Affairs. He later realized the extradition was fraudulent, based on false affidavits acquired by the FBI from a Native woman (Myrtle Poor Bear) who had never met Peltier and was not in Pine Ridge at the time, but who claimed to have been his girlfriend and to have watched him kill the agents. Peltier is in the 23rd year of two consecutive life sentences. At first, I felt Peltier was guilty, but over years of examining the case and evidence, I became convinced he didn't do it. There seems not the slightest doubt that the FBI framed him. Even today, the FBI is determined he'll never go free -- even though they now admit they haven't a clue who did the actual shooting. In 1994, Allmand reviewed the case for then-justice minister Allan Rock, as did other justice department lawyers. Allmand released his report this week, after Justice Minister Anne McClellan released her own report (after contacting U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno) that the extradition was on the up-and-up and proper. Here are the highlights of Allmand's 1994 report on the extradition, with comments on memos submitted by Justice lawyers: * Of three Poor Bear affidavits, one -- in which she said she hadn't witnessed the shooting, and had departed Pine Ridge -- was never included in the extradition case . The FBI later acknowledged Poor Bear was "incompetent" and her affidavits "unbelievable." (McClellan effectively still vouches for them.) * No circumstantial evidence was considered by Judge Schultz in the extradition, and circumstantial evidence in Canada was different from that presented at Peltier's U.S. trial. Ballistic evidence accepted at the trial was later shown to be "questionable and in part, fabricated." * After two other Natives were acquitted (Bob Robideau and Dino Butler) when their trial was shifted to Iowa, the U.S. Justice Department and FBI refused to let Peltier's trial take place in neutral territory and "pounded the community with adverse publicity regarding Peltier and the American Indian Movement (AIM)." * A Canadian Justice lawyer went to the U.S.and co-operated with the FBI on the Poor Bear affidavits. Assistant FBI director Ronald Moore noted in a memo that it was on the Canadian lawyer's recommendation "that only Poor Bear's second and third affidavits were used." Allmand concludes that if the Canadian lawyer didn't know about the excluded affidavit, "the FBI was guilty of trying to manufacture a case and mislead the Canadian justice system." (The lawyer himself denied any involvement and accused the FBI of trying to cover their butts.) Three judges questioned FBI integrity. Judge Ross of the U.S. Court of Appeal said: "Why the prosecutor's officer continued to extract more from her (Poor Bear) ... is beyond my understanding." Appeal Judge Gerald Heaney: "The FBI used improper tactics in securing Peltier's extradition." Judge R.P. Anderson of the B.C. Supreme Court: "It seems clear to me that the conduct of the U.S. government involved misconduct from inception." Judge Heaney determined that violence at Pine Ridge (over selling uranium resources that tribal elders opposed) was the "culmination of the federal government's refusal to respond to the 'legitimate grievances' raised by the Native community." The FBI supplied vigilante snipers with weapons and ammunition. The FBI concealed ballistic evidence indicating Peltier's rifle could not have fired the shots that killed the agents. This "suppressed evidence" cast a strong doubt on the government's case. Allmand found it's not unusual for the U.S. government to use illegal methods to return individuals to U.S. territory: A false extradition to get one individual returned from Mexico;kidnapping another in order to return a wanted man; the British House of Lords refused an extradition on grounds that evidence was shaky. The FBI blocked publication of Peter Mathiessen's book, In the Spirit of Crazy Horse for eight years of legal actions at a cost of some $25 million. One oddity rarely mentioned is that the two murdered FBI
[CTRL] FW: Seattle WTO menu
-Caveat Lector- Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart From: "J.M. Adams" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Seattle City-Wide Walkout In Mass Media Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 14:58:43 -0800 (PST) PGA Action at WTO Seattle - http://members.aol.com/mwmorrill/pga.htm *please forward widely* Fellow Anti-WTOers, The walkout for November 30 is picking up steam. There are decent, non-oppositional articles in Saturday's Seattle Post-Intelligencer, as pasted below, and in the Sunday Seattle Times. When this happens, it will happen spontaneously. It will be self-organization of people who hear about through mass media, through flyers, posters, stickers, banners etc. This is an invaluable action for our movement that people can, and are, organizing themselves. -Jason Adams Seattle IWW / Direct Action Network *** Walk out on summit, Seattleites urged Saturday, November 6, 1999 By JUDD SLIVKA SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER REPORTER Imagine a day when the assembly lines at Boeing plants are silent. When the Seattle Police Department is missing a third of its officers. When local high schools have more students absent then present. This is Jason Adams' dream. If it happens on Nov. 30,then Adams, who works with the Puget Sound chapter of the Industrial Workers of the World, has played his role in organizing against the World Trade Organization to perfection. A citywide walkout is part of the WTO protesters'strategy to put as many people downtown on Nov. 30 as possible, the better to clog up the area around the Convention Center, where the conference on international trade will be held Nov. 30-Dec. 3. Labor is the key to a successful walkout. If the work force departs en masse, then it strikes a double blow for the protesters: Vital parts of the area's economy are shut down, and downtown is covered in people. Students from at least four local colleges and eight area high schools will be walking out, organizers say, in addition to all the other protesters. "Even if only the people who are organizing this in the schools walk out, with labor, we should have at least 25,000 people not being where they should be on the 30th," Adams says. The city is already thinking of giving its employees a "snow day" on Nov. 30, in anticipation of the downtown gridlock. Another, less vocalized, fear of the city's governors, however, is a possible employee sickout. Posters have appeared in city offices -- including locker rooms of the Seattle police precincts -- urging city employees not to report to work. But it is in the schools where Adams hopes to make a big difference. "When I was a freshman in high school, the U.S. started bombing Iraq," Adams says. "And some guy tapped me on the shoulder and asked me if I was going to go to the walkout to protest it. It was a totally spontaneous thing. When I looked out the window of my social studies class, it was really amazing to see people streaming out of classes to protest the war. Teal Emery is a sophomore at Mercer Island High School. He's been involved in planning a walkout from the high school. He's been doing legwork since the summer, but after this weekend's scheduled WTO teach-in at Seattle Central Community College from 10 a.m. to 6 p.m., he plans to step up his efforts. "I don't know how successful it will be at my school," Emery comments dryly about his affluent suburban high school. "But I've convinced all my freinds to come to a teach-in this weekend. After that I'll really start recruiting." The idea for a citywide walkout came from King County Labor Council Executive Director Ron Judd's summer suggestion that organized labor hold a citywide strike to protest the WTO. But the national AFL-CIO organization prevailed upon Judd to call for a walkout instead, so that members' no-strike clauses in contracts were not violated. Local activists, such as Adams, have taken over the Labor Council's role of inciting local workers to walk out Nov. 30. To that end, Adams and his cohorts have been covering the city -- especially the University District -- with pamphlets and have even adopted telemarketing practices aimed at getting workers off the job. The IWW has also been calling for other unions to hold walkouts, with the support of the Labor Council. The Newspaper Guild Local No. 37082, which represents some members of both the Seattle Post-Intelligencer and The Seattle Times newsrooms as well as the papers' circulation and advertising departments, asked its members last month to take Nov. 30 off and march in a planned labor march against the WTO. Guild officers have since backed off that request. While some people are talking about actually striking for the day, others are soft-pedaling and are planning on calling in sick, Adams says. P-I reporter Judd Slivka can be reached at 206-448-8127 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] = NOVEMBER 30, INT'L DAY OF ACTION AGAINST THE WTO Start Your Own FREE Email L[Print command completed].com/ N30 Central
