Re: [CTRL] [CIA-DRUGS] Pharmacia Upjohn, Monsanto to merge

1999-12-21 Thread Dave

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"research budget of $2billion and a broader sales force TO PUSH EACH OTHER'S
DRUGS"

That's pretty honest, for an MSNBC report ;)
MY research shows that this is the most profitable (legal) business in the
U.S. (based on gross profit vs gross revenues) - and that DRUG companies
tend to be also selling OTHER poisons, and are heavily into the genetically
modified research/production biz.
It's a terribly dirty business- easily linked to government corruption,
phoney "science-made-to-order" reports, and a history of knowingly selling
dangerous products... as well as using the FDA as a GOON SQUAD to try to
stamp out inexpensive holistic health alternatives to often dangerous
pharmaceuticals (3rd leading cause of DEATH in the U.S. = doctor-created
illness (iatrogenesis.) Yes you read right. More people killed by doctors
and pharmaceutical medicine than:  aids, accidents, pneumonia, diabetes,
stroke, ...
As Konrad Kail, N.D. and Paul Bergner noted several years back in their AANP
white paper on the impending health care crisis, an extrapolation of a 1981
study by Steele et all shows that iatrogenesis [doctor-caused harm] is
likely the number 3 disease or cause of death!
http://www.healthy.net/library/articles/naturopathic/art.natru2.pc.htm
Adverse drug reactions alone kill over 100,000 people a year in the U.S
http://www.nurseweek.com/news/98-4/20c.html
Aspirine-like drugs are the 15th leading cause of death.
http://www.marijuananews.com/aspirin_and_related_drugs_are_15.htm
As you can see, we are paying DEARLY in more ways than one for "modern"
medicine.

NO ONE can hold a candle to MONSANTO in their BROAD spectrum approach to
manufacturing and selling poisons and dangerous improperly rubber stamped by
incompetent/corrupt FDA - products.
The deadly excitoxin aspartame has a history worthy of a thriller book, and
is still being sold despite over 10,000 individual consumer complaints to
the incredibly corrupt FDA - more complaints than any other product, EVER...
Monsanto has hired a few FDA investigators... payola must be sloshing all
'round.
http://www.dorway.com/
Monsanto took a very big hit over the FrankenFood(tm) and Terminator
Seed(sm) technologies.
Hopefully more pressure will continue to be brought to bear against this
heinous monster.
http://www.asheville-computer.com/dave/altmedcon.htm

Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/dave

Drug company merger
http://www.msnbc.com/local/wood/2947.asp
Pharmacia  Upjohn has signed a merger agreement with Monsanto. The deal
creates the world’s 11th largest drug company with a cabinet of top-selling
medicines to treat ailments from arthritis to glaucoma.

 The combined company, as yet unnamed, will have sales this year of
$17 billion and 60,000 employees. The new company’s pharmaceutical business
will be headquartered in Peapack, New Jersey where Pharmacia is based. The
agricultural-chemical business will be headquartered in Monsanto’s hometown
of St. Louis.
This is the second drug merger in as many months. In November, American
Home Products Corp. announced an agreement to acquire Warner-Lambert Co.
That deal, however, is being challenged in court by a rival suitor, Pfizer
Inc.
The frenetic search for partners in the pharmaceutical industry is being
driven by the need to finance research for blockbuster drugs, while facing
pressure from political and consumer groups to keep prescription costs down.
“Diversifying one’s risk is very important in pharmaceuticals,” said
Fred Hassan, chief executive officer of Pharmacia  Upjohn. “This will give
us the diversity we need.”
The combined company will have a research budget of $2 billion, and a
broader sales force to push each other’s drugs. Monsanto’s Searle division,
which sells the popular arthritis treatment Celebrex, can be used to bolster
next year’s launch of Pharmacia’s new antibiotic called Zyvox.
The announcement Sunday ends Monsanto’s long search for a buyer. Robert
Shapiro, the chairman and chief executive officer of Monsanto, has had at
least three failed attempts to clinch a deal since October 1998, when
Monsanto’s merger with American Home Products fell apart.
Shapiro will be the non-executive chairman of the newly combined company
for 18 months and then retire. Hassan will be the president and chief
executive and assume the chairman’s title when Shapiro steps down.
Monsanto has had trouble finding a partner because its
agricultural-chemical business, which makes genetically altered seeds and
weed killers like Round Up, is facing consumer backlash, particularly in
Europe. Concerns about potential health risks from genetically altered foods
have caused many manufacturers to rethink ingredients.
Shapiro invested heavily over the past five years to build up Monsanto’s
agricultural business, money that now seems poorly spent in light of the
public outcry.
Public concern is “clearly an issue, and we obviously are going to be
working on that to 

[CTRL] Toyota to examine 'satanic' TV ad

1999-12-21 Thread earthman

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Let me off this Planet..

Peter

See also
http://www2.50megs.com/persewen/index.htm



http://www.nandotimes.com/noframes/business/story/0,2469,500144422-500172790
-500665335-0,00.html Toyota to examine 'satanic' TV ad
Copyright © 1999 Nando Media
Copyright © 1999 Agence France-Press

PARIS (December 19, 1999 10:44 a.m. EST http://www.nandotimes.com) - After a
newspaper claimed the spot was riddled with subliminal satanic messages,
Toyota France said Sunday it was opening an inquiry into European television
advertisement for its latest model, the Yaris Verso.

The film, showing a father practicing getting to the hospital in time for
the birth of his child, appears harmless.

But Le Parisien newspaper said that, when shown at slow speed, satanic texts
referring to the "power of the moon" and the "beauty of darkness" are
visible, as well as incitations to suicide and images of bloodied Red
Crosses.

Toyota France was unaware of the presence of the images until the firm was
contacted late Friday by Le Parisien.

"We still have not managed to get through to our advertising agency so they
can give us an explanation," head of public relations at Toyota France
Philippe Boursereau told AFP.

"We will call them first thing Monday," Boursereau said.

Le Parisien says the British advertising agency Saatchi made the film.

"If the images really do exist ... Toyota France will take the necessary
action against all those who took part in the conception and the making of
the Yaris Verso spot," the public relations head added.

The spot is being shown, in slightly different versions, in various European
countries.

"We have informed all the countries concerned, but have not had any feedback
yet," Boursereau said.




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[CTRL] Courage

1999-12-21 Thread Dave

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Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/dave


-Original Message-
From: JP
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 1:12 AM
Subject: Re: Courage

Mike, ever heard of the wackenhut nuclear snake eaters?  These boys are
dressed in black, fully auhorized to kill civilians on us soil if deemed
necessary to protect the national security or defending the usa from
"terrorism".   These folks apparently work closely with the energy folks you
refer to.   Also, e systems security folks have apparently had the same
rights.  But there have been less hits the last 4-5 years (other than the
home invasions by drug teams) I think due to fear of being cut loose and
left holding the bag, and also due to the fact most ops have lost their
feelings of patriotism with the increased nwo orientation of the executive,
and due to the publicity of waco and ruby ridge.   Anyhow, I know that many
folks, even a significant portion of the alphabet agency personnel  are "fed
up".

- Original Message -
From: Mike Ruppert
Sent: Monday, December 20, 1999 11:28 PM
Subject: Courage

 Jim

 I too sense the meltdown which will precipitate either a successful or an
 unsuccessful attempt to remove the Constitution (overtly) and impose some
 version of a police state. But, as I think Catherine was saying in a phone
 conversation with me the other day, "I don't know how they have managed to
 keep it going this far, but they did." It is really pretty amazing.

 For a total of about three years I was a manager at the largest gun store
in
 the State of California. Many law enforcement contracts and also many
 regular customers who were contractors or outright employees of Federal
 Agencies; everybody from Park Service to GSA had hired hitters. One of the
 best secret armies in the country is at DOE where they House the N.E.S.T.
 (Nuclear Emergency Search Teams) teams. Serious bad boys there.

 But it's just kind of out of control. The key is reaching an undetermined
 point where a combination of deteriorating socioeconomic factors merges
with
 increasingly available information and starts the meltdown.

 I still don't believe that the bad guys can pull off an overt coup and
 imposition of a police state for more than five days. I just don't think
 that it can be done.

 Mike Ruppert
 www.copvcia.com


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[CTRL] NIJ looking less-than-lethal inventions for citizen suppression

1999-12-21 Thread Dave

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NIJ looking for your help with new hi-tech inventions for citizen
suppression
check out #g below "telemetered perspiration drug detection"
Voice I.D,  scads of biometrics projects, neighborhood "mapping" and "data
warehousing" CCTV cameras popping up everywhere with image (facial)
recognition software,
but wait what happened to the Bill of Rights ?
How does a Department of "Justice" come to be a department of oppression and
murder?
More importantly ... how can this trend of creeping (leaping) Facism be
reversed?

Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/dave

Full text:
http://ncjrs.org/txtfiles1/sl000374.txt  also: http://ncjrs.org
excerpt:
Officer Protection and Crime Prevention. Techniques, materials, and
methods are needed to improve the protective and safety equipment used
by law enforcement and corrections officials. Your applications addressing
officer protection should emphasize improving the degree of protection,
comfort and fit of body-worn equipment, ease of use, and cost of
protection equipment. Your applications in this area should describe the
development of systems that are easy to use, require low power (primarily
for man-portable or unattended applications), and are inexpensive to
purchase and operate. Some examples of this type of technology are (1)
sensors and monitors (perimeter/physical security), (2) explosives/drug
detection, and (3) concealed weapons detection.

The development, adaptation of existing systems, appropriate deployment,
and analysis of closed circuit television (CCTV) is an area that could
benefit public safety. Image processing, enhancement and analysis may
also be useful. For some types of safety threats (e.g. telephoned bomb
scares), speaker identification might have some value. However, it is
incumbent on the applicant to articulate the expected benefits and cost
trade-offs with existing approaches for dealing with the problems that the
technology seeks to address.

(d) Less-Than-Lethal (LTL). NIJ seeks technologies that provide new or
significantly improved options to conventional use-of-force methods.
Scenarios where LTL technologies, devices, or techniques might be
appropriately employed include, but are not limited to, confrontation with
subjects who assault officers or refuse to comply with lawful orders and
who may be armed with a weapon and individuals who become violent or
uncooperative. You must consider all aspects of the safety of proposed
LTL devices from the effect produced on the subject to the effect on
bystanders and on persons employing the LTL device. Any disabling
effect on an offender must be of a short duration and completely
reversible. You must clearly articulate the expected reduction in the
incidence of injury to officers and combative suspects. You must make
cogent arguments that the proposed technique or device is quantitatively
more effective or safer than that currently used to achieve the same
objective. Included in less-than-lethal technology is car and vehicle
stopping technology--developing and improving methods police may
employ to safely stop fleeing vehicles, including use of stationary systems
for check points, police vehicle-based systems, and hand-held portable
devices.

NIJ also seeks technology for use by law enforcement agencies in
performing vehicular pursuit management. Several broad areas of
technologies are sought: physical systems and devices that will safely and
effectively immobilize motor vehicles; information technologies that can
be employed in the management of pursuits in progress or to enhance law
enforcement officers' preparedness in responding to pursuit situations; and
technologies that warn the general public of imminent hazards associated
with pursuits in progress. Proposals that address vehicle-immobilizing
systems and devices must provide sufficient description of the physical
operating principles of the system or device to permit an assessment of its
expected effectiveness and safety.

(e) Counterterrorism. NIJ, in concert with the Department of Defense, is a
leader in the development of concealed weapon detection technology. NIJ
solicits new and innovative concealed weapons detection technology for
development and demonstration. Current concealed weapons technology
focuses on passive millimeter wave imaging, low intensity
electromagnetic technology, long wave infrared receivers, radar and
ultrasound technology, passive magnetic detection technology, and
low-frequency magnetic imaging technology. NIJ solicits proposals for
new and innovative concealed weapons and explosives detection
technology that is cheaper, easier to use, and portable.

(f) Investigative and Forensic Science. This solicitation seeks proposals
for the development of scientific bases for forensic physical evidence
obtained from fingerprints and firearms; expansion of trace evidence and
questioned document examination techniques; and employment of
advanced DNA/serology, pathology, entomology, 

[CTRL] news cooperative

1999-12-21 Thread earthman

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Ohhh, is this what is meant by the third eye??

Peter

Peter

http://www.abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap19991220_1325.html

WIRE:12/20/1999 19:22:00 ET
Networks announce news cooperative



NEW YORK (AP) _ Three networks are joining their news services into a
single domestic news cooperative, they announced Monday. Network News
Service will consist of ABC NewsOne, CBS Newspath and Fox News Edge.

NNS will collect video from the affiliates of all three news services,
as well as the three network's newsgathering units and other sources,
and supply this "raw video" back to ABC NewsOne, CBS Newspath and Fox
News Edge.

Each network's news service will select from all of that day's NNS
material for inclusion in its regular feeds to affiliates. Meanwhile,
the three services will continue to operate as separate competing entities.

NBC is not part of the arrangement. "We think it's curious that we were
not included in these discussions," said NBC spokeswoman Alex
Constantinople.

"NNS will be particularly important to breaking news coverage," said
Roger Ailes, Fox News chairman. "It will dramatically enhance the
ability of each network news service to cover breaking stories by
offering more than one source of video."

CBS News president Andrew Heyward added that the new arrangement
"enables each network news service to devote more resources to its own
coverage ... which will ultimately differentiate one station or one
service from its competitors."

snip





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Re: [CTRL] Kudos to Kris: High Times article

1999-12-21 Thread Das GOAT

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In a message dated 99-12-21 01:54:05 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Thanks. It was quite the process. And what a statement about todays media,
that High Times is the only magazine to have any in depth accounts of a
secret society that George W Bush, a leading contendor for the US presidency,
belongs to.

Things haven't changed in DECADES.  In the '70s and '80s, the ONLY mass-media
outlets that were able to publish articles about government conspiracies and
cover-ups were "PORNO" magazines such as Genesis, Penthouse, and Larry
Flynt's Hustler ...

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[CTRL] Finding your way to The Stargate...(here's a map)

1999-12-21 Thread lloyd

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..

Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]:
Subject: Finding your way to "The Stargate"...(here's a map)
Date: Sunday, December 19, 1999 2:01 PM

(Citation and "find-your-way" direction to The Stargate follow, re Dan's
reference to Saul Paul and Farley's forward of "The Stargate Conspiracy"
related quotes, etc.)

(For those not quite up to speed with what Dan Smith's talking about here,
put on your "Star Wars" costume and think "Dark Side of the Force." Or shift
over to the metaphysical, and consider what are perjoratively called "demonic
entities." Or in a "UFOlogical" modality, perhaps "good aliens and bad
aliens." But for our scientific vernacular, let's think in balanced terms of
"viruses of the mind"  consciousness? This allows even former-Soviets,
Chinese and others into this game, "alien"-wise.)
- - - - +
In a message dated 12/19/99 12:08:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Consider the Boss.  This is the Monster Group.  I have spoken of the Monster
 several times before in this forum.  Jack is afraid of the Monster.  He
 realizes that it makes a shambles of his metaphysics.  Jack hates Plato,
and for the same reason.  Plato believe(s) (sic) in disembodied existence.
  Remember -- Philosophy 101?

  Saul-Paul is Jack's Physics/Math mentor.  Saul-Paul knows all about the
  Boss.  Saul-Paul is a Platonist.  Saul-Paul believes in disembodied
spirits.   He does not believe that they rot in the grave, any more than does the
  Monster Group which just happens to be the Boss of all of physics, even of
  Jack's little back-action.  Is anyone in the world besides me keeping
score?   Does anyone else wonder what is coming down and who is fooling whom and
why?  Yes, in his own inimitable fashion, Farley wonders.

- - - - +
[Farley]

Here's a little ditty resonant with Dan's emission, above. Actually, I'm not
the only one "wondering."  I'm just a mild-mannered reporter. But then there
ARE "others?"

Excerpting for review and promotional purposes only, quoting from "The
Stargate Conspiracy," (Picknett  Prince, Little Brown  Co.), on Page 245 -
246, from the chapter titled "Behind the Mask": (Ver batim; author's
footnoted refs. in parens.)

"Many people have been impressed by the paranormal phenomena associated with
the Nine, which often converts them to the cause. Another example of this
happened to Saul Paul Sirag, the physicist who took over the
Physics/Consciousness Research Group at Esalen after Sarfatti. He visited
Ossining during the Geller communications, and was later present at Jenny
O'Connor's sessions at Esalen. Sirag records a hauntingly surreal story in
which he asked Geller if it was possible for him to see Spectra. Geller
replied that he only had to look into his eyes. He did so -- and saw the
Israeli's head turn into a hawk's. (143)  This story has particular resonance
because another person involved with the Puharich-Geller group at that time
was Ray Stanford, who claimed extra-terrestrial contact since 1954, and the
beings he saw were also hawk-like. (144)  (In the 1950s Stanford was an
associate of another controversial contactee, George Hunt Williamson, who
was, in turn, a close colleague of the fascist channeller William Dudley
Pelley.)

"Hawks run through the Puharich story like wine through water: he himself
claims to have been told by the Nine that he was the reincarnation of the
hawk god Horus, and he often described how hawks regularly appeared around
him and Geller during their travels in Israel and the United States, which he
took as a sign of the Nine's protection. (Incidentally, the Turkey Farm was
in Hawkes Avenue, Ossining.)

"The idea that scientists -- with their traditional contempt for all matters
paranormal -- believe they are in personal contact with extraterrestrial (or
other non-human) intelligences may seem surprising and unlikely, but many of
the Nine's most devoted followers are, as we have seen, physicists. In
response to Sarfatti's description of his childhood telephone conversations
with a computer from the future, ** (Dr.) Brendan O'Regan said he knew of
'several hundred' similar cases, and Saul Paul Sirag stated unequivocally
that over 100 scientists in the United States alone believe they were in
telepathic contact with the extraterrestrial intelligences. (145)  John C.
Lilly, another pioneer in the study of altered states of consciousness and
LSD research, who spent time at the Esalen Institute in the late 1960s,
reported his own experiences of contact with 'intelligences or entities
higher than myself', which he believed were 'a shared organized aspect of the
Universe'. (146)  He speaks of these higher intelligences as 'programmers',
and developed a theory that human beings are really 'biocomputers'. He wrote:
'All human beings... are programmed biocomputers. No one of us can escape our
own nature as programmable entities. Literally, 

Re: [CTRL] [1] Drugs, the U.S., and Khun Sa

1999-12-21 Thread Das GOAT

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In a message dated 99-12-20 14:41:46 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Anthony Poe was indifferent to the problem. A marine in the Pacific during
World War II, Poe joined the CIA's Special Operations division sometime after
the war and quickly earned a reputation as one of its crack clandestine
warfare operatives in Asia, playing an important role in the CIA's Tibetan
operations. Poe's first assignment in Indochina was with anti-Sihanouk
mercenaries along the Cambodian border in South Vietnam, and in 1963 he was
sent to Laos as chief advisor to General Vang Pao. Several years later he was
transferred to northwestern Laos to supervise Secret Army operations in the
tri-border area and to work with Yao tribesmen.

Old Tony Poe now lives in retirement in the Richmond district of San
Francisco.

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[CTRL] US Code and the militias

1999-12-21 Thread True Patriot

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18 USC 2383 Rebellion or insurrection Whoever incites, sets on foot,
assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority
of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or
both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

18 USC 2384 Seditious conspiracy If two or more persons in any State or
Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States,
conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of
the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the
authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of
any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any
property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall
each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or
both.

18 USC 2385 Advocating overthrow of Government Whoever knowingly or
willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity,
desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of
the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or
Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein,
by force or violence, or by the
assassination of any officer of any such government; or Whoever, with intent
to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints,
publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly
displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the
duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying
any government in the United States by
force or violence, or attempts to do so; or Whoever organizes or helps or
attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach,
advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government
by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any
such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof -
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or
both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any
department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his
conviction. If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in
this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more
than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the
United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next
following his conviction. As used in this section, the terms ''organizes''
and ''organize'', with respect to any society, group, or assembly of
persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units,
and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units
of such society, group, or assembly of persons.

18 USC 2389 Recruiting for service against United States Whoever recruits
soldiers or sailors within the United States, or in any place subject to the
jurisdiction thereof, to engage in armed hostility against the same; or
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[CTRL] Harmonics And The Unified Field Theory. Bruce Cathie

1999-12-21 Thread Nicky Molloy

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http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3460/bruce.html

Harmonics And The Unified Field Theory
by, Bruce L. Cathie

This site has heaps of info.


Index
 World Grid System

 Harmonic Unified Equations

 Atomic Bomb

 Unified Field

 Harmonic Unified Equation (1)

 Magnetic Lines of Force

 Harmonic Unified Equation (2)

 Harmonic Unifed Equation (3)

 Matter/Antimatter

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Re: [CTRL] Anarchism: Two Kinds / Wendy McElroy

1999-12-21 Thread pmeares

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Another term for the two kinds of Anarchism:
 "right-Libertarian" (anarcho-capitalist) and
 "libertarian socialist" (anarcho-syndicalist)

from:
An Anarchist FAQ Webpage, Version 6.1
G.7 Lysander Spooner: right-Libertarian or libertarian socialist?
http://au.spunk.org/library/intro/faq/sp001547/secG7.html

Murray Rothbard and others on the "libertarian" right have argued that
Lysander Spooner is another individualist anarchist whose ideas support
"anarcho"-capitalism's claim to be part of the anarchist tradition. As will
be shown below, however, this claim is untrue, since it is clear that
Spooner was a left libertarian who was firmly opposed to capitalism.

That Spooner was against capitalism can be seen in his opposition to wage
labour, which he wished to eliminate by turning capital over to those who
work it. Like Ben Tucker, he wanted to create a society of associated
producers -- self-employed farmers, artisans and cooperating workers --
rather than wage-slaves and capitalists. For example, in his Letter to
Cleveland Spooner writes: "All the great establishments, of every kind, now
in the hands of a few proprietors, but employing a great number of wage
laborers, would be broken up; for few or no persons, who could hire capital
and do business for themselves would consent to labour for wages for
another."

This preference for a system based on simple commodity production in which
capitalists and wage slaves are replaced by self-employed and cooperating
workers puts Spooner squarely in the anti-capitalist camp with other
individualist anarchists, like Tucker.

Right "libertarians" have perhaps mistaken Spooner for a capitalist because
of his claim that a "free market in credit" would lead to low interest on
loans. But, as noted, markets are not the defining feature of capitalism.
There were markets long before capitalism existed. So the fact that Spooner
retained the concept of markets does not necessarily make him a capitalist.
In fact, far from seeing his "free market in credit" in capitalist terms,
he believed (again like Tucker) that competition between mutual banks would
make credit cheap and easily available, and that this would lead to the
elimination of capitalism! In this respect, both Spooner and Tucker follow
Proudhon, who maintained that "reduction of interest rates to vanishing
point is itself a revolutionary act, because it is destructive of
capitalism" [cited in Edward Hyams, Pierre-Joseph Proudhon: His
Revolutionary Life, Mind and Works, Taplinger,1979]. (Whether this belief
is correct is, of course, another question; we have suggested that it is
not, and that capitalism cannot be "reformed away" by mutual banking,
particularly by competitive mutual banking.)

Further evidence of Spooner's anti-capitalism can be found his book
Poverty: Its Illegal Causes and Legal Cure, where he notes that under
capitalism the labourer does not receive "all the fruits of his own labour"
because the capitalist lives off of workers' "honest industry." Thus:
". . . almost all fortunes are made out of the capital and labour of other
men than those who realize them. Indeed, except by his sponging capital and
labor from others." Spooner's statement that capitalists deny workers "all
the fruits" (i.e. the full value) of their labor presupposes the labour
theory of value, which is the basis of the socialist demonstration that
capitalism is exploitative. [1]

Spooner's support of "Natural Law" has also been taken as "evidence" that
Spooner was a proto-right-libertarian. Of course, most anarchists do not
find theories of "natural law," be they due to right-Libertarians, fascists
or whatever, to be particularly compelling. Certainly the ideas of "Natural
Law" and "Natural Rights," as existing independently of human beings in the
sense of the ideal Platonic Forms, are difficult for anarchists to accept
per se, because such ideas are inherently authoritarian. [2]

Spooner, however, never explicitly states in his essay in what sense he
believes "natural law" to exist. Seeking to give him the benefit of the
doubt, we can say that his support for juries indicates a support for the
evolution of any concepts of "natural rights." In other words, the concepts
of right and wrong in society are not indelibly inscribed in law tomes as
the "true law," but instead change and develop as society does (as
reflected in the decisions of the juries). In addition, he states that
"Honesty, justice, natural law, is usually a very plain and simple matter,
. . . made up of a few simple elementary principles, of the truth and
justice of which every ordinary mind has an almost intuitive perception,"
thus indicating that what is right and wrong exists in "ordinary people"
and not in "prosperous judges" or any other small group claiming to speak
on behalf of "truth."

As can be seen, Spooner's account of how "natural law" will be administered
is radically different from, say, Murray Rothbard's, and indicates a strong

[CTRL] History of Psychological Applications of LSD

1999-12-21 Thread Das GOAT

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"History of LSD Therapy"

Chapter 1 of "LSD Psychotherapy" by Stanislav Grof MD, 1980,
  Hunter House Publishers, Alameda CA  (ISBN 0-89793-158-0)

http://www.psychedelic-library.org/grofhist.htm

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[CTRL] Johnny Acid-seed, Al Hubbard [1/2]

1999-12-21 Thread Das GOAT

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  AL HUBBARD -- THE ORIGINAL "CAPTAIN TRIPS"

  by Todd Brendan Fahey

  [This investigative article originally appeared in the
November, 1991, issue of "High Times."]

  Before Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band ... before
Timothy Leary ... before Ken Kesey's band of Merry Pranksters and
their Electric Kool-Aid Acid Tests ... before the dawn of the
Grateful Dead, there was Alfred M. Hubbard: the Original Captain
Trips.
  You will not read about him in the history books. He left
no diary, nor chatty relatives to memorialize him in print. And
if a cadre of associates had not recently agreed to open its
files, Captain Alfred M. Hubbard might exist in death as he did
in life -- a man of mirrors and shadows, revealing himself to
even his closest friends only on a need-to-know basis.
  They called him "the Johnny Appleseed of LSD." He was to
the psychedelic movement nothing less than the membrane through
which all passed to enter into the Mysteries. Beverly Hills
psychiatrist Oscar Janiger once said of Hubbard, "We waited for
him like a little old lady for the Sears-Roebuck catalog."
Waited for him to unlock his ever-present leather satchel loaded
with pharmaceutically-pure psilocybin, mescaline or his personal
favorite, Sandoz LSD-25.
  Those who will talk about Al Hubbard are few. Oscar Janiger
told this writer that "nothing of substance has been written
about Al Hubbard, and probably nothing ever should."
  He is treated like a demigod by some, as a lunatic uncle by
others. But nobody is ambivalent about the Captain: He was as
brilliant as the noonday sun, mysterious as the rarest virus, and
friendly like a golden retriever.
  The first visage of Hubbard was beheld by Dr. Humphry
Osmond, now senior psychiatrist at Alabama's Bryce Hospital. He
and Dr. John Smythies were researching the correlation between
schizophrenia and the hallucinogens mescaline and adrenochrome at
Weyburn Hospital in Saskatchewan, Canada, when an A.M. Hubbard
requested the pleasure of Osmond's company for lunch at the swank
Vancouver Yacht Club.
  Dr. Osmond later recalled, "It was a very dignified place,
and I was rather awed by it. [Hubbard] was a powerfully-built man
... with a broad face and a firm hand-grip. He was also very
genial, an excellent host."
  Captain Hubbard was interested in obtaining some mescaline,
and, as it was still legal, Dr. Osmond supplied him with some.
"He was interested in all sorts of odd things," Osmond laughs.
Among Hubbard's passions was motion. His identity as "captain"
came from his master of sea vessels certification and a stint in
the US Merchant Marine.
  At the time of their meeting in 1953, Al Hubbard owned
secluded Daymen Island off the coast of Vancouver -- a former
Indian colony surrounded by a huge wall of oyster shells. To
access his 24-acre estate, Hubbard built a hangar for his
aircraft and a slip for his yacht from a fallen redwood. But it
was the INNER voyage that drove the Captain until his death in
1982. Fueled by psychedelics, he set sail and rode the great wave
as a neuronaut, with only the white noise in his ears and a fever
in his brain.
  His head shorn to a crew and wearing a paramilitary uniform
with a holstered long-barrel Colt .45, Captain Al Hubbard showed
up one day in '63 on the doorstep of a young Harvard psychologist
named Timothy Leary.
  "He blew in with that uniform ... laying down the most
incredible atmosphere of mystery and flamboyance, and really
impressive bullshit!"
  Leary recalls, "He was pissed off. His Rolls Royce had
broken down on the freeway, so he went to a pay phone and called
the company in London. That's what kind of guy he was. He started
name-dropping like you wouldn't believe ... claimed he was
friends with the Pope."
  Did Leary believe him?
  "Well, yeah, no question."
  The captain had come bearing gifts of LSD, which he wanted
to swap for psilocybin, the synthetic magic mushroom produced by
Switzerland's Sandoz Laboratories. "The thing that impressed me,"
Leary remembers, "is on one hand he looked like a carpetbagger
con man, and on the other he had these most-impressive people
in the world on his lap, basically backing him."
  Among Hubbard's heavyweight cheerleaders was Aldous Huxley,
author of the sardonic novel "Brave New World." Huxley had been
turned on to mescaline by Osmond in '53, an experience that
spawned the seminal psychedelic handbook "The Doors of
Perception." Huxley became an unabashed sponsor for the chemicals
then known as "psychotomimetic" - literally, "madness-mimicking."
 But neither Huxley nor Hubbard nor Osmond experienced
madness,  and Dr. Osmond wrote a rhyme to Huxley one day in the
early 1950s, coining a new word for the English language, and a
credo for the next generation: "To fathom hell or soar angelic /
Just take a pinch of psychedelic."

  * * *

  Those who knew Al Hubbard would describe him 

[CTRL] Wisdom's Maw -- Author's Website

1999-12-21 Thread Das GOAT

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http://www.ucs.usl.edu/~tbf4931/Wisdom/

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[CTRL] Johnny Acid-seed, Al Hubbard [2/2]

1999-12-21 Thread Das GOAT

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  AL HUBBARD, THE ORIGINAL "CAPTAIN TRIPS"

  by Todd Brendan Fahey
  High Times, Nov. 1991

  cont'd

  Hubbard abandoned his uranium empire and, for the next
decade, traveled the globe as a psychedelic missionary. "Al's
dream was to open up a worldwide chain of clinics as training
grounds for other LSD researchers," says Stolaroff. His first
pilgrimage was to Switzerland, home of Sandoz Laboratories,
producers of both Delysid (trade name for LSD) and psilocybin.
He procured a gram of LSD (roughly 10,000 doses) and set up shop
in a safe-deposit vault in the Zurich airport's duty-free
section. From there he was able to ship quantities of his booty
without a tariff to a waiting world.
  Swiss officials quickly detained Hubbard for violating the
nation's drug laws, which provided no exemption from the
duty-free provision.
  Myron Stolaroff petitioned Washington for the Captain's
release, but the State Department wanted nothing to do with Al
Hubbard.  Oddly, when a hearing was held, blue-suited officials
from the  department were in attendance. The Swiss tribunal
declared Hubbard's passport invalid for five years, and he was
deported. Undeterred, Hubbard traveled to Czechoslovakia, where
he had another gram of LSD put into tablet form by Chemapol --a
division of the pharmaceutical giant Spofa-- and then flew west.
  Procuring a Ph.D. in biopsychology from a
less-than-esteemed academic outlet called Taylor University, the
captain became Dr. Alfred M. Hubbard, clinical therapist. In '57,
he met Ross MacLean, medical superintendent of the Hollywood
Hospital in New Westminster, Canada.  MacLean was so impressed
with Hubbard's knowledge of the human condition that he devoted
an entire wing of the hospital to the study of psychedelic
therapy for chronic alcoholics.
  According to Metcalfe, MacLean was also attracted to the
fact that Hubbard was Canada's sole licensed importer of Sandoz
LSD.  "I remember seeing Al on the phone in his living room one
day.  He was elated because the FDA had just given him IND#1,"
says one Hubbard confidante upon condition of anonymity.
  His Investigational New Drug permit also allowed Hubbard to
experiment with LSD in the USA. For the next few years, Hubbard
--together with Canadian psychiatrist Abram Hoffer and Dr.
Humphry Osmond-- pioneered a psychedelic regimen with a recovery
rate of between 60% and 70% -- far above that of AA or Schick
Hospital's so-called "aversion therapy." Hubbard would lift
mentally-disturbed lifelong alcoholics out of psychosis with a
mammoth dose of liquid LSD, letting them view their destructive
habits from a completely new vantage point.
  "As a therapist, he was one of the best," says Stolaroff,
who worked with Hubbard until 1965 at the International
Federation for Advanced Study in Menlo Park, California, which he
founded after leaving Ampex.
  Whereas many LSD practitioners were content to strap their
patients onto a 3' x 6' cot and have them attempt to perform a
battery of mathematical formulae with a head full of LSD, Hubbard
believed in a comfortable couch and throw pillows. He also
employed icons and symbols to send the experience into a variety
of different directions: someone uptight may be asked to look at
a photo of a glacier, which would soon melt into blissful
relaxation; a person seeking the spiritual would be directed to a
picture of Jesus, and enter into a one-on-one relationship with
the Savior.
  But Hubbard's days at Hollywood Hospital ended in 1957, not
long after they had begun, after a philosophical dispute with
Ross MacLean. The suave hospital administrator was getting fat
from the $1,000/dose fees charged to Hollywood's elite patients,
who  included members of the Canadian Parliament and the American
film community. Hubbard, who believed in freely distributing LSD
for the world good, felt pressured by MacLean to share in the
profits, and ultimately resigned rather than accept an honorarium
for his services.
  His departure came as the Canadian Medical Association was
becoming increasingly suspicious of Hollywood Hospital in the
wake of publicity surrounding MK-ULTRA. The Canadian Citizen's
Commission on Human Rights had already discovered one Dr. Harold
Abramson, a CIA contract psychiatrist, on the board of MacLean's
International Association for Psychedelic Therapy, and external
pressure was weighing on MacLean to release Al Hubbard, the
former OSS officer with suspected CIA links. Compounding
Hubbard's plight was the death of his Canadian benefactor,
leaving Hubbard with neither an income nor the financial cushion
upon which he had become dependent.
  His services were eventually recruited by Willis Harman,
then-Director of the Educational Policy Research Center within
the Stanford Research Institute (SRI) of Stanford University.
Harman employed Hubbard as a security guard for SRI, "although,"
Harman admits, "Al never did anything 

[CTRL] Wisdom's Maw -- MK-ULTRA and LSD

1999-12-21 Thread Das GOAT

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  "WISDOM'S MAW" - The Story Behind the Story

   by Todd Brendan Fahey
   Author of "Wisdom's Maw," pub'd by Far Gone Books

 "If someone were to take you out -- today -- would anyone
see the book?"

 It was an absurd question. But we live in absurd times, and
so I paused in reflection and took a quick mental inventory of
just how many copies of the manuscript were floating around the
U.S. and England. In the final analysis --including published
excerpts from the book-- there are far too many copies of
"Wisdom's Maw" circulating "out there" to do anything about. For
better or worse, the CIA will have to lie with its mistakes.
 There was a time, though, several years ago, Spring of 1990,
when I found myself worrying about the little things: the car
that had been in my rearview mirror for several miles and many
odd street changes, or the sonar blip somewhere in the bowels of
my phone line to which I could set my watch, or whether this turn
of the ignition key would be the last move I would ever make.
 Democratic Senator Daniel K. Inouye of Hawaii, in a closed
door session of the Senate Intelligence Committee in 1978, deemed
Project MK-ULTRA "the most diabolical experiment imaginable in a
democratic society."
 And from what I know now, from the four-plus years it took
to research and complete "Wisdom's Maw," I would have to agree.
 For over twenty years, several branches of the federal
government of the United States of America --most notably the
Army Chemical Corps, the Central Intelligence Agency, and the
Federal Bureau of Investigation-- sought as their ultimate
objective nothing less than total control over human behavior.
 A little-known chemical compound procured from a Swiss
pharmaceutical firm was to be THE KEY.  Today, of course, we know
the drug as LSD-25.
 It was through my reading of the history of lysergic acid
diethylamide in two works of nonfiction, "Acid Dreams" and
"Storming Heaven," that I decided this epoch in American history
to be worthy of a novel -- a work of fiction with space and time
altered, as if in the powerful throes of an acid trip, and with
the dimensions redrawn to benefit certain human agents who may
have been neglected proportionally by state-approved historians.
Such an art form was the only way to make sense of LSD
 Precisely, it was the coming across the figure of one Alfred
M. Hubbard in "Acid Dreams," in the chapter titled "The Original
Captain Trips," that would throw me headlong into an obsession
that would culminate in the completion of a 77,000-word novel
surrounding Project MK-ULTRA.
 After the buzz settled from my reading of "Acid Dreams," I
immediately set for myself the goal of knowing more about the
man whom Timothy Leary called, "the great, enigmatic triple
agent," than anyone alive. It was during this period of research,
between March of 1990 and the summer of 1991, that the word
"paranoia" became a meaningless abstraction.
 I was, am, and will forever be convinced that Captain Al
Hubbard was a conscious, dedicated agent of the Central
Intelligence Agency, and that his astonishing career as "the
Johnny Appleseed of LSD" was but a pebble on the surface of
MK-ULTRA.
  After dozens of hours of taped conversations with the likes
of Myron Stolaroff, Drs. Humphrey Osmond and Abram Hoffer,
Timothy Leary, and Laura Huxley, wife of the great psychedelic
visionary Aldous Huxley, I was able to deliver to Steve Hager and
John Holmstrom at High Times a long, investigative piece on Al
Hubbard for its November 1991 issue. I was also so convinced of
my being under surveillance, and that the phones at my home and
place of employment (then a Big-Eight law firm) were tapped, that
my wife and I moved abruptly one afternoon from Los Angeles to
Salt Lake City, Utah. ("They" would need to really want to go
after me, I reasoned, to follow me to Utah.)
  It was in the idyll of a huge, old flat with hardwood
floors, just off Temple Square, in the heart of Salt Lake City,
that "Wisdom's Maw" was completed. While in the throes of too
many acid trips, drawing from Freedom of Information Act
sensitive documents, and supported by long breaks between
quarters at Weber State University, where I had been hired to
teach freshman English, I was able to finish off three-quarters
of the novel in about eight weeks (the other one-quarter had
taken four years ... "it must GERMINATE," I kept telling myself
... ).  The excerpting of the book in 1993 by "Utah Holiday," a
now-defunct glossy regional, allowed me to forget about the sound
of footsteps (the phone-blips stopped after leaving L.A.), and
since then, the only concern I have had is the nature of the
baffling silence of virtually every major publisher in New York.
 Author Ernest J. Gaines ("The Autobiography of Miss Jane
Pittman"), who spent time at Stanford in '59-60 with some of the
principals in "Wisdom's Maw," uttered this bottom-line 

[CTRL] Y2K WARNING (fwd)

1999-12-21 Thread YnrChyldzWyld

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-- Forwarded message --

Y2K Warning - Please read

WARNING!!!

 Please take time out of your busy life to check your toilet paper
 stockpile.

 Make sure it is Y2K Compliant !!!

 Word has it, if it is NOT Y2K compliant, on January 1, 2000
 it will roll back to 1900 and turn into a Sears Catalog 

  YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED !!!

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Re: [CTRL] Panamanians Seek U.S. Damages for Invasion Victims

1999-12-21 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 12/21/1999 1:30:25 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Then-U.S. President George Bush ordered the invasion of
 26,000 troops to capture Noriega and bring him to the United
 States to face drug trafficking and racketeering charges.

 Washington has estimated that about 300 Panamanians died
 in the invasion. But Panamanian human rights groups say the
 civilian death toll topped 3,000.

 ``We want justice for all the people killed in the vile massacre
 carried out by the U.S. Army,'' said Sebastian Vergara, head of
 action group the Families of the Fallen. 

Invading Iraq to protect his oil contracts and invading Panama to get a guy
he not only didn't like but wanted to make sure never saw the light of day
again.  Maybe the world would have been a better place if he had just had an
affair.  Oh no, what am I thinking of?  Killing people is fine.  It's sex
that's bad, bad, badPrudy

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[CTRL] The coming end of western civilisation-1 intro

1999-12-21 Thread Taylor, John (JH)

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Enjoy the next few years ..they are likely to be the best that has ever
been.

Beyond that however, the deluge.
-
I hope that everything that is sent in this mini series is wrong.
That the world will go onto experience a millenia of prosperity, with no
conflict and perennial growth.
---

But the other scenario, that "Satan will be unleashed", and the darkness
descends is a real possibility.
What is certain is that in the following 100years, the change in power
relationships will be greater than in the last 1000.
The almost certain death of the west will cause disruptions that one can
only guess at.(Using existing scientific literature in an appendix in no 8 a
guess is made. It is controversial but gives tools to think about what is
likely to  happen)

Two of the major source books that I used are The clash of civilisations by
S Huntington and Grey Dawn-Peterson.
Both are members of the CFR . I have extrapolated at what they have said
(and what they hinted at) to a logical conclusion.

In scenario planning they talk about the widening cone of uncertainty as the
cumulative effects of uncertaintities cause increased difficulties in
forecasting. Howver you also get the reverse cone where resources and
demographics produce inevitable change.
Such a thing was certain for a country such as south africa. Because of
changing demographics, barring a massive war which would have changed
demographics, it was inevitable that Apartheid would fall and that a black
government would be put in place. What was uncertain was the nature of the
government.(which depended on the transfer of power). also it was inevitable
that the new government would implement anti white employment
legislation(because of group identities and african culture) but the degree
depends on the leadership and the remaining white power structures.
Increasing crime and corruption are also inevitable for similar reasons, the
level at which it is constrained depends on how much internal freedom
remains (its disappearing rapidly), the devolution of power (it is being
concentrated) and outside influences( the WTO acts to restrict corruption in
SA and so for us is a positive force).

Similar things can be said for the world. Because of the disappearance
through demographics of the western world, the power will dwindle, the other
power centres will try to exert themselves. this will be made worse by
declining resources, climate change, and capital restrictions.
===
This is where conspiracy theories come into place. Who is the controller if
at all.

The main actors suggested be many are.

1The illuminati(skull and bones, CFR, etc)

2The Jews(Rothschilds, Bonfmans)

3The Anglo masononic( Churchills,Cecils, City of london)

4The catholics

5 the aliens.

(I am not referring to the majority of members of the groups but the
financial elite. most of the members remain cattle fodder as the rest Also
these are conjectured may be entirely wrong.)



here are some hypothetical extrapolations of  could be wanted by the
different elites?

All groups(except 4 and possibly 2) would want a collapsing world
population.

All the groups would want the decline of the nation state, the rapid mixing
of all the populations of the world.

Group 2 would like to see the destruction of christianity, The others would
like it to continue in order to manipulate.

Groups 1,2 3 , since there main power base is in the west, if they want a
one world govt will have to precipitate a crisis  within the next 20 years,
otherwise they will be superseded by the other grous with strong group
identities- The Muslim world, Chinese and Indians.

Group 5 would likely want a major conflabation in which the majority of
people are destroyed and the remainder are slaves?.


Sometimes its impossible to see who's who in the zoo- clinton was a rhodes
scholar(group 1/3) educated ar georgetown(group4) abd has in his cabinet
disproprtionally group2. He may be a descenndant of Rockerfeller(group1) anf
behaves like he doesnt belong in this world(group5). perhaps he actually
only cares about No1(himself)



Enough doom and gloom. I hope I am wrong.

I wish you all a merry christmass and a blessed new year. All the best for
the millenium. and dont forget we are actually celebrating 1999 years (not
quite 2 millenium) of a renewing revelation.


John



Silent Night, Holy Night
All is calm, all is bright
Round yon virgin,
Holy infant,so tender and mild
Sleep in Heavenly peace
Sleep in heavenly peace

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[CTRL] The coming end 4- the west is dying out

1999-12-21 Thread Taylor, John (JH)

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Mail and guardian
 Johannesburg, South Africa. August 25, 1999



The world is dying out ...

As fertility rates fall, a 'birth dearth' is spreading, write ANTHONY BROWNE
and RICHARD REEVES.





E

VEN as the six billionth human is born, it's time to forget fears about the
world being overpopulated. By the end of the next millennium, Tokyo will be
a ghost town, and Japan will be empty. The country's population will be just
500 by the year 3000, and just one by 3500. When that person dies, the
Japanese nation will be no more.
These apocalyptic predictions aren't the rantings of a doomsday cult, or of
a maverick academic out to gain some publicity, but of the Japanese
government itself. Its Ministry of Health and Welfare reports: "If we dare
make the calculation, Japan's population will be ... about 500 people by the
year 3000."

Of course, a lot of things can change in 1 000 years. But what is
frightening about the forecast is that it's a mathematical certainty if
Japanese women carry on having just 1,4 children each on average -- and if
Japan doesn't change its immigration policy. If things continue as they are,
the Japanese will die out. It's just a question of when.

And so will Europeans. Britain is one of 61 countries that are not having
enough babies to replace their populations, according to the United Nations.
For a population to remain stable, women need to have 2,1 babies each on
average. In the United Kingdom, women are now having 1,7 babies. One in four
women are opting to have none at all.

In all the countries of the European Union, fertility is so low that
populations are set to decline -- if they haven't already. Spanish women --
having 1,15 babies each -- have the lowest fertility in the world. In some
parts of Spain the average rate has dropped below one.

The European Commission says fewer babies were born last year in the EU than
in any year since World War II.

"Obviously, the social structure is going to change dramatically in the next
century," says John Clarke, professor of geography at the University of
Durham.

"We are going to become used to a world with no-child and one-child
families, and with a growing proportion of older people. Siblings will
become rarer and rarer." Clarke points out that the unprecedented "birth
dearth" is even spreading to some developing countries. Women in India now
have fewer babies than American women did in the 1950s, while in China, Cuba
and Thailand women are already having too few babies to replace themselves.

After centuries of population growth, and decades of apocalyptic warnings
about the population bomb, most of the developed world is now facing a
"population bust". In his landmark 1968 book, Population Bomb, Professor
Paul Ehrlich warned that "we will breed ourselves into oblivion". Thirty
years later, demographers say he is right -- but not in the way he expected.


Even a few years ago predictions abounded that the exponential growth in the
world's population would mean that by around 3000 there would be standing
room only on the planet. One demographer predicted the impossible, claiming
that in the fifth millennium humanity would outweigh the planet itself.

But the unexpectedly sharp decline in fertility around the world has forced
all forecasters -- including the UN -- to downgrade their predictions. There
are now six billion people in the world, and while the UN's best guess is
that the global population will reach nine billion by 2050, it admits the
total could peak as low as 7,5-billion by 2040 before falling back.

Almost all that growth will be in Africa and Asia, outweighing sharp falls
in much of the developed world. The UN predicts that by 2050, Russia's
population will have declined by 25-million people, Japan's by 21-million,
Italy's by 16-million, and Germany's and Spain's by nine million each.
Britain, with a younger population and more babies, is less affected -- at
least initially. The UN forecasts the British population will drop by two
million by 2050 before the decline accelerates.

The most catastrophic fall will be in Estonia, which is set to lose more
than a third of its population in the next 50 years.

Samuel Preston of the University of Pennsylvania reckons Europe will lose
24% of its population by 2060. The UN forecasts that Europe and Japan will
lose half their population by 2100.

All this is not just crystal ball gazing. The European Commission says the
"natural" populations of Germany, Greece, Italy and Sweden fell last year --
with only immigration ensuring that the overall populations remained steady.
The populations of all but two of the countries in central and Eastern
Europe fell in 1997, with Latvia's dropping by almost 1%.

Of course, longer-term projections are shaky. "We really do have to
differentiate between shorter-term projections, say up to 30 years, and the
longer-term ones which by definition 

[CTRL] The coming end- 8- 2020 Vision?

1999-12-21 Thread Taylor, John (JH)

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Vision 2020 The Fall of Western Civilisation 2020- 2100


Section 1
The Roman Empire: The pattern of the future?



At the end of the 3rd century, the Roman empire stood astride the whole
western world, the centre of civilisation, stretching from the northern
realms of England to the Persia empire. The Mediterranean was the Roman
empire's lake. The trade of the empire went across the known world- Egypt,
Africa, china, Persia were involved in a delicate web of global trade. The
city of Rome was the centre of arts, culture trade. With architectural
marvels and a population of about a million people. Peoples life style was
at a level that was not to be repeated before the 17th century and even a
slaves life was better than that of a freeman in the dark ages.   But within
a century, within 70 years, the lifetime of one man, the empire was
destroyed . The empire in the east remained, although shrunk in size. The
empire in the west was broken up until multiple kingdoms of Vandals,
Visigoths , franks, Angles Saxons and Jutes. The population of rome ended up
being 50 000, down from a million and the glory of Rome was destroyed
leaving only the Coliseum and the parthenon.

What went wrong? Why did Rome fall. No book ascribes a single cause and some
are probably consequences of deeper malaise.

There are three sets of commentators on the fall of the Roman empire- The
classicists/ morally orientated and  the Biological.

The Classicists
The headings are taken from Mr. Grant's fall of the Roman empire in order to
see that the parallels without forcing the issue and committing the fault of
Procrustes.

1 The Failure of the army

The army began to be a parasite on the state. The costs of the army became
large and at the same time the army became a corrupt power seeking
organisation. The army began to fail to do its job of defending the borders,
became interested in political intrigue(as all emperors were dependent on
the army to continue ruling) and on increasing its share of the empire's
taxes. At the same time, the people no longer held the army in high esteem
and tried to get out of their duties with respect to the army. They were no
longer willing to contribute voluntarily to the social overheads necessary
to maintain the empire. Because they resented the army, it became difficult
to impose discipline on the soldiers and severly reduced its fighting
capabilities.. Hence when the barbarian invasions occurred the army was
unable to resist.

2 Class Dissension

As the empire entered the forth century, the empire was divided  in terms of
class. The aristocratic classes had stopped having children and were putting
their lives and energy into their vas t estates and into wild revelry and
hedonism. They felt minimal loyalty toward the empire and in some ways they
were mini states unto themselves. They were exploiting the state for their
own benefit, creating monopolies, withholding taxation. The unproductive
poor were exploding in numbers and people who were on the states schemes
numbered 300 000 in Rome alone. Again they were alienated from the state and
wanting to gain the maximum benefit from the empire. The productive poor
(Kulaks?) and the middle classes started to shrink.
The peasant classes were paying so much in taxes that they could no long
support themselves and committed wide spread infanticide. The urban middle
classes were punished by high taxes and political oppression and it was
common for people to sell themselves into slavery in order to survive. The
shrinkage of the productive middle class and peasants was made worse by the
impact of bubonic plague that struck the empire in the 4th century and a
number of severe famines. Every man was doing his own thing. Eithe from
selfihness or simply to survive.



3 Corruption/ lawlessness

The bureaucrats who in earlier times were essentially honest became corrupt
and inefficient. Since the visible face of the state is it bureaucrats this
alienated the people from the state. The bureaucrats were money taking
thieves lining their own pockets and providing very little service in
return. The bureaucrats were also the police force of the day , so any sense
of law and order began to disappear from the streets.

The corruption reached the highest realms. Inflation was allowed to proceed
at full force and helped destroy the middle classes. This was stopped toward
the end , but then it was too late



4 The Racial partnerships that failed

The split of the empire between the east (Greek) and west (latin) meant that
their lives and interests began to deviate and were unwilling to come to the
assistance of the other. If they had stood together they could probably
resisted the barbarian invasions. But they did not.

The empire lost its sense of identity and purpose. The Romans permitted
large number of other peoples to come into the empire and undermine it as
they had no loyalty to the empire, even if they admired it. Africans from
the south, Goths , 

[CTRL] The coming end-3- Goodbye old blue eyes

1999-12-21 Thread Taylor, John (JH)

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Bombshell for blondies
In future, the peroxide bottle will be the only answer as fair hair becomes
extinct.

Johannesburg "Sunday Times" 19th Sep 199

One of the worlds great arbiter of fashion and style has pronounced the
death of the blond- and claims to have scientific backing for the claim.

To be published later this month. The vogue book of blondes, published by
the company which owns the authoritative fashion magazine, Vogue, has ruled
that the fun fair haired people are presumed to have in abundance, will die
out and become a nostalgic memory.

According to the author, Kathy Philips, the basis for this theory supplied
by geneticist, steven Jones of University college London, who has discovered
that blondness is the result of a recessive Gene.

Jones who is dark haired is reported to have found "fair hair is caused by a
weak genes whereas dark hair is the product of dominant ones. When a dark
haired person and a natural blond have children together, the offspring will
almost always be dark haired.
According to Vogue, "naturally blond populations" could flourish in the
"formerly closed societies" of Nordic and northern Europe. But the
increasing immigration into these countries has brought out more liaisons
between northern blonds and " dusty southern Europeans".

The result according to the a report in Philips book is that by the end of
the next millennium" the peroxide bottle" will be the only answer for those
who cannot face life with mousy brown hair.
..

Her book also reportedly examines a connection between power and blondness,
and notes that the " one appears to augment the other. Margaret Thatcher
became blonder as she became more powerful as did Eva Peron and Hillary
Rodham Clinton"

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[CTRL] The coming end-5 -a miserable life on overcrowded Earth

1999-12-21 Thread Taylor, John (JH)

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Cornell University
http://www.news.cornell.edu/releases/Sept99/sustainable_life.hrs.html
A.D. 2100: Cornell study warns of a miserable life on overcrowded Earth if
population and resources are not controlled

ITHACA, N.Y. -- One hundred years from now, democratically determined
population-control practices and sound resource-management policies could
have
the planet's 2 billion people thriving in harmony with the environment.
Lacking
these approaches, a new Cornell University study suggests, 12 billon
miserable
humans will suffer a difficult life on Earth by the year 2100.

"Of course, reducing population and using resources wisely will be a
challenging task in the coming decades," says David Pimentel, lead author of
the report titled "Will Limits of the Earth's Resources Control Human
Numbers?"
in the first issue of the journal Environment, Development and
Sustainability.

"It will be much more difficult," Pimentel says, "to survive in a world
without
voluntary controls on population growth and ever diminishing supplies of the
Earth's resources."

Even at a reduced world population of 2 billion in A.D. 2100, life for the
average Earth dweller will not be as luxurious as it is for many Americans
today. But the lifestyle won't be as wasteful of resources, either, the
Cornell
ecologist predicts. Some observers are seeing early signs that nature is
taking
a hand at reducing human populations through malnutrition and disease.
According to the report, global climate change is beginning to contribute to
the food and disease problems.

"With a democratically determined population policy that respects basic
individual rights, with sound resource-use policies, plus the support of
science and technology to enhance energy supplies and protect the integrity
of
the environment," the report concludes, "an optimum population of 2 billion
for
the Earth can be achieved."

Then the fortunate 2 billion will be free from poverty and starvation,
living
in an environment capable of sustaining human life with dignity, the report
suggests, adding a cautionary note:

"We must avoid letting human numbers continue to increase and surpass the
limit
of Earth's natural resources and forcing natural forces to control our
number
by disease, malnutrition and violent conflicts over resources," the report
says.

Among the key points in the report:

-- The world population is projected to double in about 50 years.

-- Even if a worldwide limit of 2.1 children per couple were adopted
tomorrow,
Earth's human population would continue to increase before stabilizing at
around 12 billion in more than 60 years. The major reason for continued
growth
is "population momentum," due to the predominantly young age structure of
the
world population.

-- The U.S. population has doubled during the past 60 years to 270 million
and,
at the current growth rate, is projected to double again, to 540 million, in
the next 75 years. Each year our nation adds 3 million people (including
legal
immigrants) to its population, plus an estimated 400,000 illegal immigrants.

-- Increasing U.S. and global population will place restrictions on certain
freedoms: freedom to travel and commute to work quickly and efficiently,
freedom to visit and enjoy natural areas, freedom to select desired foods
and
freedom to be effectively represented by government

-- Today, more than 3 billion people suffer from malnutrition, the largest
number and proportion of the world population in history, according to the
World Health Organization. Malnutrition increases the susceptibility to
diseases such as diarrhea and malaria.

-- One reason for the increase in malnutrition is that production of grains
per
capita has been declining since 1983. Grains provide 80 percent to 90
percent
of the world's food. Each additional human further reduces available food
per
capita.

-- The reasons for this per capita decrease in food production are a 20
percent
decline in cropland per capita, a 15 percent decrease in water for
irrigation
and a 23 percent drop in the use of fertilizers.

-- Biotechnology and other technologies apparently have not been implemented
fast enough to prevent declines in per capita food production during the
past
17 years.

-- Considering the resources likely to be available in A.D. 2100, the
optimal
world population would be about 2 billion, with a standard of living about
half
that of the United States in the 1990s, or at the standard experienced by
the
average European.

The study was funded by Cornell University. In addition to Pimentel, authors
of
the Environment, Development and Sustainability report include Owen Bailey,
Paul Kim, Elizabeth Mullaney, Joy Calabrese, Laura Walman, Fred Nelson nd
Xiangjun Yao, all students at Cornell University.

Related World Wide Web sites: The following sites provide additional
information on this news release. Some might not be part of the Cornell
University community, and Cornell has no control over their content or

[CTRL] The coming end- 6-Liberal attitudes...an everchanging story

1999-12-21 Thread Taylor, John (JH)

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Of all the tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be
the most oppressive.
  It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral
busybodies.
The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some
point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us
without end, for they do so with the approval of their consciences."  --
C.S. Lewis





Introduction


The left and liberal wings in the western political world have had a
changeable relationship with regard to race relations. The only consistency
has been for the left to hold radical opinions. I have covered the history
in terms of various quotes from  leaders of the left. The right wing was not
included as it has probably changed less than the left and has had fewer
hidden agenda's. Also race relations have assumed a religious dimension,
that has never happened on the right wing(except for the Nazis). The
definition of 'left wing' as will become apparent, was not as straight
forward as one might think, I have defined it is those seeking radical
transformation of society toward equality.( A definition that could include
Mr Hitler, as well as. Thabo Mbekis radical  transformation of South African
society). Historically, the line between extreme right and left can become
blurred. For instance Mussolini and Goebbels  were socialists before they
were fascists.

Liberals I have defined as those believing in the sovereignty of the
individual ( today that is more closely aligned with the libertarian
movement).

Originally the concept of race/ ethnicity pre the enlightenment was very
fuzzy, as it was believed that environmental influences and culture were
pre-eminent. For instance the first blacks imported into America came as
indentured servants-on exactly the same status as white 'convicts'. who were
imported to do hard labour. Slavery was not associated with race and that
only changed toward the end of slavery's life in the USA. Also before the
development of mass shipping, the most people including the elite only had
contact with the ethnic group living alongside them and the Jewish
community. Conflict was then defined only in terms of language/culture or
religion. After the enlightenment, scientific approach was adopted to the
study of people

With the decline in Christianity (and traditional Judaism), the religious
impulse in men was transferred into secular world views ranging from
illuminism through Marxism, nazism, communism, existentialism, egalitarian
humanism etc. Most of which have attempted to overcome the sense of
alienation that has occurred with the decline of religion, the rise of
capitalism and the process of urbanisation.

The left wing has changed its emphasis between the equality as a matter of
faith and science more than once as will be seen.

In the 18th century, the attitudes of the right and liberal could be
considered separatist toward out groups, with the extremes promoting
domination and even extermination; with the left wing being wanting to use
race as a form of radical revolution.

In the 19th century, the right were more strongly into paternalism and
domination (the so called white man's burden), with liberalism still
promoting separation, and the left wing promoting extermination or
separation of outgroups

Modern left wing egalitarianism has a number of streams, that have combined
to form today's attitudes to race and culture.

The first is the radical socialists, which found a major voice in the
Boasian school of anthropology by the 1940's something like 70% of
Anthropology departments in the USA has a strong Boasian bias. The next is
the Zionists, who did not want to be assimilated into WASP America and
wanted open borders to aid the persecuted Jews in Russia and Poland. From
this group comes modern multiculturalism. The Fabian groups have perhaps had
the most radical change and become the major advocate of cultural marxism.

 The last and most suprising is the Rockerfeller / capitalist power elite
with the associated large foundations.

Mr JD Rockerfeller was a religious Baptist (he taught every weekend in
Sunday school) However he was not orthodox and viewed himself as setting up
an improved version of religion (The Prize-Daniel Yergin). Mr Rockerfeller's
foundations (and associated foundations such as the Carnegie and later Ford
foundation) have been consistently involved in promoting egalitarian causes
such as the Fabian dominated London School of Economics, federal council of
churches (see Fabian Freeway: High Road to Socialism in the USA--1884-1966
by Rose L. Martin) (see appendix 1). Also many leading industrialist have
seen the liberating and enabling power of capitalism and began to see
capitalism as an ideal in itself, rather than a means of wealth creation.
More cynically, the elites have used socialism as a means of pacifying the
masses from at least biblical times (Joseph's granary system in Egypt) In
Roman times 

[CTRL] The coming end-7- the clash of civilisations

1999-12-21 Thread Taylor, John (JH)

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Samuel Huntington, The Clash of Civilizations (New York: Simon and Schuster,
1996) Chapter 12, The West, Civilizations, and Civilization




THE RENEWAL OF THE WEST?

History ends at least once and occasionally more often in the history of
every civilization. As the civilization's universal stage emerges, its
people become blinded by what Toynbee called "the mirage of immortality" and
convinced that theirs is the final form of human society. So it was with the
Roman Empire, the 'Abbasid Caliphate, the Mughal Empire, and the Ottoman
Empire. The citizens of such universal states "in defiance of apparently
plain facts . . . are prone to regard it, not as a night's shelter in the
wilderness, but as the Promised Land, the goal of human endeavors." The same
was true at the peak of the Pax Britannica. For the English middle class in
1897, "as they saw it, history for them, was over...And they had every
reason to congratulate themselves on the permanent state of felicity which
this ending of history had conferred on them."' Societies that assume that
their history has ended, however, are usually societies whose history is
about to decline.

Is the West an exception to this pattern? The two key questions were well
formulated by Melko:

First, is Western civilization a new species, in a class by itself,
incomparably different from all other civilizations that have ever existed?

Second, does its worldwide expansion threaten (or promise) to end the
possibility of development of all other civilizations?

The inclination of most Westerners is, quite naturally, to answer both
questions in the affirmative. And perhaps they are right. In the past,
however, the peoples of other civilizations thought similarly and thought
wrong.

The West obviously differs from all other civilizations that have ever
existed in that it has had an overwhelming impact on all other civilizations
that have existed since 1500. It also inaugurated the processes of
modernization and industrialization that have become worldwide, and as a
result societies in all other civilizations have been attempting to catch up
with the West in wealth and modernity. Do these characteristics of the West,
however, mean that its evolution and dynamics as a civilization are
fundamentally different from the patterns that have prevailed in all other
civilizations? The evidence of history and the judgments of the scholars of
the comparative history of civilizations suggest otherwise. The development
of the West to date has not deviated significantly from the evolutionary
patterns common to civilizations throughout history. The Islamic Resurgence
and the economic dynamism of Asia demonstrate that other civilizations are
alive and well and at least potentially threatening to the West. A major war
involving the West and the core states of other civilizations is not
inevitable, but it could happen. Alternatively the gradual and irregular
decline of the West which started in the early twentieth century could
continue for decades and perhaps centuries to come. Or the West could go
through a period of revival, reverse its declining influence in world
affairs, and reconfirm its position as the leader whom other civilizations
follow and imitate.

In what is probably the most useful periodization of the evolution of
historical civilizations, Carroll Quigley sees a common pattern of seven
phases. (See above, p. 44.) In his argument, Western civilization gradually
began to take shape between A.D. 370 and 750 through the mixing of elements
of Classical, Semitic, Saracen, and barbarian cultures. Its period of
gestation lasting from the middle of the eighth century to the end of the
tenth century was followed by movement, unusual among civilizations, back
and forth between phases of expansion and phases of conflict. In his terms,
as well as those of other civilization scholars, the West now appears to be
moving out of its phase of conflict. Western civilization has become a
security zone; intra-West wars, apart from an occasional Cod War, are
virtually unthinkable. The West is developing, as was argued in chapter 2,
its equivalent of a universal empire in the form of a complex system of
confederations, federations, regimes, and other types of cooperative
institutions that embody at the civilizational level its commitment to
democratic and pluralistic politics. The West has, in short, become a mature
society entering into what future generations, in the recurring pattern of
civilizations, will look back to as a "golden age," a period of peace
resulting, in Quigley's terms, from "the absence of any competing units
within the area of the civilization itself, and from the remoteness or even
absence of struggles with other societies outside." It is also a period of
prosperity which arises from "the ending of internal belligerent
destruction, the reduction of internal trade barriers, the 

[CTRL] Seattle Police Wanted Destruction!

1999-12-21 Thread lloyd

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..

Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]:
Subject: Seattle Police Wanted Destruction!
"...it came out that the  police didn't arrest the people in black hoods
who were damaging   property...

...because they (the police) needed the damage =
($2.5 million) to occur so that "they could justify
declaring a state of  emergency"..."

...And this is  honest police work? Won't the shop owners be
delighted to hear about  this police strategy!

NewsHawkAE Inc.

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8 Dec 1999
Val  Valerian
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Report on the  Public Meeting with the Seattle City Council on the  WTO
Incidents

During the public meeting on  December 8, 1999 at the Seattle Public
Library, held by the  Seattle City Council for public comment on the events
in Seattle  during the WTO meeting, it came out that the police didn't
arrest  the people in black hoods who were damaging property because  they
needed the damage ($2.5 million) to occur so that "they  could justify
declaring a state of emergency", permitting  the police in the city to be
federalized and a declaration of  "limited martial law" to occur and the
limited callup  of a number of unarmed National Guard troops. It also came
out  that the police knew that the individuals in the black ski masks  were
coming to Seattle from Oregon - they knew who they were and  that they were
coming to cause damage. They let them come, didn't  stop them, and let them
do damage in order to justify further  activities. So, it was a setup.

Furthermore, the fact  that Seattle hosted the WTO meeting was strange,
because  Washington has more trade unions than any other state in the  US,
and is an extremely environmentally concerned state. So, the  city was
selected despite the fact that it was the worst possible  place to hold such
an event.  So, it was a setup on a  "national" level, because international
meetings in the  US are orchestrated from Washington D.C. On the other side
of the  coin, it is interesting that this would occur the way it  did,
because it exposed fascist techo-cop tactics to the public,  who were
generally outraged and calling for accountability on the  part of the
Seattle City Council, and the mayor, Paul  Schell.

Perhaps this event, which I now categorize as a  "wild card", will lead
to greater public awareness in  some limited way, of the nature of our
socio-political  paradigm.

During this whole thing, militarized,  federalized, jackbooted police,
wearing black capes and helmets  as the Germans wore during the Battle of
the Bulge, terrorized  and brutalized people, and demonstrably sought to
provoke the  public. I might even go so far as to suggest that this  whole
thing might have been a "test" to see how the  public reacted. I think  itbackfired.

Lloyd Sez:   Backfired?  Huh?  The people throughout the country, by and large 
accepted the rather extreme police tactics!

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[CTRL] ABOUT TODAY - Gay Couples Win; Elvis in the Oval Office; More (fwd)

1999-12-21 Thread Yardbird

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[CTRL] Davidian lawyer raises questions on Delta Force (fwd)

1999-12-21 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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From:

http://www.dallasnews.com/specials/waco/1221waco1lawyer.htm

Davidian lawyer raises questions on Delta Force
He says testimony leaves gap in siege account

12/21/99

By Lee Hancock / The Dallas Morning News

Sworn testimony from two members of the Army's secret Delta Force
unit raises questions about the actions of a third Delta soldier
during the last hours of the Branch Davidian standoff, a lawyer
for the sect said Monday.

Two technical specialists from the classified anti-terrorist unit
were among 24 government witnesses questioned in recent
depositions by lawyers for the Branch Davidians, and their
testimony indicated that "there's a combat guy [from the same
unit] whose time is not accounted for on April 19," said Mike
Caddell, lead lawyer for the Branch Davidians.

Mr. Caddell said a protective order in the sect's wrongful-death
lawsuit against the federal government prohibits divulging exact
testimony of the government witnesses. They were questioned
during two weeks of depositions in Washington that ended Friday.

Justice Department officials did not return telephone calls for
comment Monday. An FBI spokesman said he was unfamiliar with the
matter. Justice Department spokesmen have previously declined to
comment on depositions in the case.

Mr. Caddell said the depositions left unanswered key questions
about Delta Force's involvement in an FBI tank and tear-gas
assault on the Branch Davidian compound. He said the questioning
of FBI and military personnel also failed to resolve whether
Delta Force soldiers or any other government agents fired guns
into the building on April 19, 1993 - a charge that the
government has denied.

Pressed on the issue of government gunfire, the FBI's hostage
rescue team members questioned during the depositions said they
did not personally fire or witness any government gunfire April
19, Mr. Caddell said.

But neither they nor FBI technical experts who operated FBI
infrared cameras during the standoff could explain the origin of
repeated flashes on an infrared videotape recorded by an airborne
camera during the last hours of the tear-gas assault, Mr. Caddell
said.

Experts hired by the plaintiffs have said the flashes could have
come only from government gunfire. Government experts dispute
that, but an independent expert hired by the House Government
Reform Committee to examine the infrared video has said he also
thought that flashes were thermal signatures from gunfire.

"One thing that became clear from this first round of
depositions: Whatever really happened on April 19, there's only a
handful of people that really know," Mr. Caddell said. "This
operation obviously proceeded on a need-to-know basis. I would
say fewer than a dozen people really knew what was going to
happen or what did happen that day."

Government officials and lawyers have adamantly denied that any
Delta Force personnel were actively involved in the April 19
assault, which ended in a massive fire that consumed the Branch
Davidian compound with more than 80 people inside. Government
officials maintain that members of the sect set the fire.

The Branch Davidians' federal lawsuit, set for trial in May in
Waco, alleges that government negligence and actions caused the
deaths of dozens of innocent women and children and other Branch
Davidian followers.

Lawyers for the sect have alleged that government agents,
possibly including Delta Force members, repeatedly fired guns
into the compound in the last hours of the siege.

Justice Department lawyers initially tried to limit the Branch
Davidian lawyers to written questioning of Delta Force members
who were in Waco on April 19.

Secret units

Defense Department documents indicate that three soldiers from a
secret military unit were present as observers on April 19 and
that other Special Forces personnel from a classified military
unit were shuttled in and out of Waco during the 51-day standoff.
Delta Force is a classified military unit so secret that the
Defense Department routinely refuses to acknowledge its
existence.

Defense Department officials ultimately allowed Branch Davidian
lawyers to question the Delta Force soldiers who were at Waco on
April 19 only if the soldiers could sit behind a protective
screen during the deposition, Mr. Caddell said. Lawyers for the
sect also had to agree that the soldiers would not have to
divulge identifying information, Mr. Caddell said.

The two soldiers who were questioned, both technical equipment
specialists, denied active involvement in FBI operations in Waco,
including the final assault, Mr. Caddell said. But they
acknowledged that they could not account for the whereabouts of
their unit's combat arms representative April 19 until after the
compound burned.

"Frankly, their explanation for that, the cover story that was
given to explain his absence, was preposterous," Mr. Caddell
said, adding that he could not divulge details of that story
because of the court's protective order.

Mr. 

Re: [CTRL] [prj] In hell there will be nothing but law, and LAWYERS

1999-12-21 Thread nessie

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[CTRL] FW: Araucanos are descedants of ancient Greeks

1999-12-21 Thread Tatman, Robert

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In light of the current threads on prehistoric migration and exploration and
their implications for history, here's a piece arguing that the Araucanas of
Chile are of Greek origin.

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 To:   Eternera
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 Eternera Mailing List - http://get.to/eternera Excuse me, list owner, this
 has nothing to do with NWO but it is interesting.
 The book "The Greek origin of Araucanos (or Araukanos?) of Chile" made its
 second Greek edition.
 The book is written  by  Lonko Kilapan, chief of  the Araukanos tribe that
 lives in Chile. He claims - and proves,  as I've been told, because I
 haven't read  it yet - that Araukanos are offspring of ancient Greeks,
 namely Spartans, who went to Chile about 600 a.D. and founded a colony.
 Araukanos still follow the ancient Spartan laws of Lycourgos.
 It is a fact that there is a sympathy between the people of  Greece and
 Chile, a sympathy that seems to have no specific reason. Pablo Neruda, a
 Nobel-prized poet from Chile, used to lay  emphasis on his Araukanos
 origin, associating this origin with the tribal tradition that Araukanos
 are descedants of Greeks. In his poem "Canto Jeneral" he speaks
 specifically of "Greek blood", that "goes down from the mountains to the
 sea".
 As far as I know, Greeks have discovered America in ancient times, before
 Colombus of course. This epirus is mentioned in ancient Greek writings
 with the name "Hesperia", that is to  say Western land. Greek arms have
 been discovered in tombs in America, but I don't remember where.
 Fortunately enough,  Greeks were not of genocidal mentality, so their
 discovery had no deplorable incidents.
 I am not among the nuts who believe that all earth inhabitants are
 descedants of Greeks. Moreover, there is no need to have blood
 relationship with  peoples in order to like them. This is racism.
 But, despite of what some nuts are saying, many people allover the earth
 are of Greek origin or of mixing of Greeks with local inhabitants- i.g.
 Italians, particularly Sicelians, and Spaniards.
 There is a similarity among  some tribal systems of American Indians and
 the ancient Greek communal  system, that still exists in the form of
 Christian parishes in small communities. Of course this may be a
 coincidense. The best thing for the nowadays people is to know one
 another, and to love one another, despite of blood relationships.
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[CTRL] OEN 12/21/99

1999-12-21 Thread Kris Millegan

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A Total Collapse of Values in the 21st Century?



by George Melloan

"On the last day of the year 999, according to an ancient chronicle, the old
basilica of St. Peter's at Rome was thronged with a mass of weeping and
trembling worshipers awaiting the end of the world. This was the dreaded eve
of the millennium, the Day of Wrath when the earth would dissolve into
ashes."

The above account is extracted from a book titled, "A.D. 1000, A World on the
Brink of Apocalypse," by historian Richard Erdoes, published in 1988 by
Harper  Row. It portrays vividly that scene 1,000 years ago, as Pope
Sylvester II celebrated a midnight mass for a worried throng, some wearing
sackcloth and ashes in penance for their sins, who believed that Judgment Day
was nigh. A church council some years earlier had predicted the end of
history, literally, at the end of the first millennium.

Today, it's a thousand years later, and the Christian world is counting down
the days to the end of the second millennium. It's probably safe to say that
most Christians are more worried about the judgments of scientists than the
judgment of God. Another invisible hand, neither God's nor the market's, has
come into being to help guide and regulate economic activity on the planet.
It's the microchip. The calendars that computer designers put into operating
systems years ago had only two digits. So when the clocks in New Zealand ring
in the new year at midnight Dec. 31 some computers may not know what day it
is. Mankind will again be wondering if the chimes are foretelling doom.
Cybernetic doom.

Probably we will escape once more. Just as those Christians of New Year's
1000 ran out into the streets of Rome and celebrated still being alive,
probably we will find with joy and relief that all the wonders science has
created are still in working order. Our faith in science will be restored
sufficiently to launch us into a new millennium in which the laboratories
will most likely bring forth more marvels. The possibilities for further
development of existing microchip technology are by no means exhausted and
after that reaches its limits, sometime in the middle of the new century,
quite possibly organic chemistry will take us up to the next plateau of
computational speed and memory.

The Christian world of 1000 had no such concept of the future. Northern
Europe was a primitive place, hardly cognizant of the discoveries in
astronomy and mechanics of the more advanced Islamic and Chinese cultures. A
belief in witchcraft would persist for centuries. Pope Sylvester himself was
a truly learned man, having studied science and mathematics in Spain under
Islamic scholars. But he died in 1003 only four years after his appointment
to the papacy by German emperor Otto III, who had himself died a year
earlier. Rome sank once more into the corruption and intrigue that had
preceded Otto and Sylvester.

But out of this unpromising movement eventually grew what we have come to
call Western Civilization. A modern philosopher, Francis Fukuyama, has
surmised that the eventual flowering of human creativity in Christian
Europe--and those other parts of the globe, including the Americas, explored
and conquered by European Christians--was attributable in part to the focus
of that belief on the individual's responsibility for his own salvation. At
any rate, Christendom eventually prospered while older civilizations went
into a long snooze. And in the 19th century, those creative processes began
to produce a long progression of inventions that would transform the world:
electric power, telecommunications, the automobile, the airplane, the
semiconductor, space exploration, biotechnology.

But even though the world around us has changed dramatically, it is less
evident that those primal forces that drive mankind toward horrible acts of
destruction have changed much. The century that will soon end was also a
century of mass slaughter, with two world wars and a host of smaller ones,
some quite recent. There is very little material difference between the
cruelty of Byzantine Emperor Basil II, who reportedly had 15,000 prisoners
blinded during his 1014 conquest of Bulgaria and the threat only days ago by
a Russian general to annihilate the entire population of Grozny. As the
second millennium began, the Christian Byzantine empire was fighting the
Islamic Fatimids near Baghdad and as it ends, the pilots of modern
Christendom are bombing surface-to-air missile sites in the same place.

The science that has yielded to the world its modern pleasures and comforts
has been accompanied by more efficient ways of killing. Perhaps it is no
wonder that anti-science attitudes have attained significant influence in the
political debates of Europe and North America, where Green parties, Naderites
and the like are waging war 

[CTRL] Your Tax Dollars At Work--Florida Rednecks

1999-12-21 Thread Kris Millegan

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Racist clique of guards alleged
Inmates and guards say knotted cords worn by some prison officers signify
those
willing to "straighten out'' minorities.
By ADAM C. SMITH

© St. Petersburg Times, published December 16, 1999


--
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Dangling from the pants pockets of some Florida prison officers, they look
like
innocuous sailor-knot key chains, the sort of thing kids might make at summer
camp.

But some correctional officers and inmates describe them as something more
sinister: a secret symbol of solidarity for rogue officers willing to step
over
the line when using force on inmates, especially black inmates.


The significance of the cords is said to be a well-kept secret.
 "I've heard them called "Nr Knots.' Only certain people get them, and if
you're in that group, they'll protect you, whatever you get into," said Capt.
Willie Hogan, a 21-year veteran officer from Lancaster Correctional
Institution
west of Gainesville.

Hogan, who is black, declined to comment further, saying the Department of
Corrections frowns on officers talking to the media.

The knotted cords, one of which was given to the Times, are relatively common,
especially in North Florida prisons. But inmates and officers say their
significance is a well-kept secret. Three officers and three inmates confirmed
that the cords represent a secret clique of guards.

The Times contacted the Corrections Department about the knotted cords Tuesday
afternoon, and department Secretary Michael Moore immediately ordered an
investigation.

A dozen investigators dispatched to Lancaster on Wednesday began interviewing
all employees there and inspecting key chains. Department spokesman C.J. Drake
said that 200 of the prison's 359 employees were interviewed by Wednesday
evening and that 30 people on annual leave were ordered back for interviews.

"We take the allegations seriously and encourage employees to report
allegations of this kind of conduct to the (department's) inspector general's
office," Drake said. "We're going to get to the bottom of whatever allegations
have been made. If the allegations are substantiated, then we'll take
appropriate action."

Drake said an FBI agent in June interviewed Capt. Hogan about charges with
"racial overtones" and could not substantiate the allegations. Drake did not
know if those allegations specifically related to the knotted cords.

The agent who interviewed Hogan declined to comment, and the FBI office in
Jacksonville did not return phone calls Wednesday.

James E. Wiggins, a burly former captain at Cross City Correctional
Institution, said he used to have his own knotted cord key chain until he
retired in 1995. He suggested that proving the meaning of the cords will be
difficult at best.

"Certain officers have them, but they're not issued by the department. You ask
people, and they'll tell you, "Oh, this is just a key chain. It's nothing,"'
said a chuckling Wiggins, a 15-year veteran of the prison system.

Wiggins, who is white, said guards know that if they see a fellow officer with
a knotted cord that person will back them up if they want to "straighten out"
an inmate. He cheerfully demonstrated on a reporter how the cords, though
usually only about 6 inches long, can make an effective tool for inflicting
pain.

One way is to wrap them around one or two of the inmate's fingers and then
bend
his hand backward against his chest. Another method is to stand behind an
inmate and, with both hands, pull the cord hard up against the bottom of the
inmate's nose until the pain forces him into submission.

"They usually have keys on them so they can also make a good slap-jack, if you
have to have one," Wiggins said. "Ingenuity, my friend, ingenuity."

Several inmates told the Times that they think the cords signify officers who
belong to a racist hate group, an allegation repeated by two current
correctional officers who refused to be publicly identified.

"They call them "two nrs in a knot," said 20-year-old Chester Hart, a
former gang member who has done time in several of Florida's correctional
facilities for burglary and grand theft.

"You see those things all throughout the prison system. I saw them at Sumter,
South Florida, (Lake) Butler and Indian River. In all the institutions I went
to I saw officers carry those knots, and it was always the racist ones, the
ones always picking on the black guys, never the white guys," said Hart, who
was released from Lancaster a year ago and now lives in Pinellas County.

Hart said that once in 1998, he was ordered into an 

[CTRL] FBI Nazi Persecution of Sanders

1999-12-21 Thread Kris Millegan

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With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

For the story behind the story...
Wednesday December 8, 10:45 AM

New TWA 800 Book Shrouded in Secrecy

Freelance investigative author James Sanders has a new book coming out
on the TWA Flight 800 disaster entitled Altered Evidence. But given his
recent experience at the hands of federal prosecutors, Sanders has
decided to take some extraordinary precautions.

Why? Because, when he penned 1997's The Downing of TWA Flight 800, the
Clinton Justice Department went after everybody associated with the
book's publication in search of evidence against Sanders and his wife
Elizabeth.

In an outrageous breach of his First Amendment guarantees as a working
journalist, Sanders was convicted last year of conspiracy to remove
evidence from the Calverton, Long Island hangar where wreckage of TWA
800 had been reassembled.

A TWA employee had voluntarily given Sanders seat fabric from the
plane, which he promptly subjected to lab analysis. Tests revealed
rocket fuel residue, suggesting that a missile had brought down the ill-
fated Boeing 747 just minutes after it took off from JFK International.
Because Mrs. Sanders had spoken by phone several times with her
husband's source, she was prosecuted as well.

The author gave NewsMax.com a preview of his new book's
acknowledgments:

"The last time I wrote an acknowledgment to thank those who touched my
life in some meaningful way during the investigation of government
wrongdoing was March 1997 as The Downing of TWA Flight 800 went to
press. Virtually everyone thanked in that acknowledgment, from
publisher to agent to friends, soon became victims of federal
harassment and intimidation.

"The Justice Department used the book’s acknowledgment section as a
virtual roadmap to neutralize that which placed them at risk. It has
been a long journey from March 1997 to November 1999. My wife Liz and I
have survived. Because of the efforts of many people, I have been able
to use the ordeal of indictment to accumulate additional, compelling
evidence of federal lawlessness and corruption.

"Kensington Publishing was raided by the FBI. The movie producer
holding the option on the book was severely leaned on to not go forward
with the project [he will not talk to the media]. A letter arrived the
next day canceling the contract. My agent faced the real prospect of
being indicted as a co-conspirator, had to retain counsel at
significant expense.

"Liz’s best friend at TWA, listed in the acknowledgments, also had to
retain an attorney and negotiated a deal to avoid possible indictment.
Virtually everyone at TWA identified as a friend of Liz was subject to
interrogation. Senior TWA management was leaned on to fire her. The FBI
swept through our neighborhood in Williamsburg, wanting to know if I
was ever seen carrying guns outside the home - shades of Ruby Ridge.
"In summation, it is impossible today in America to publish Altered
Evidence without treating everyone involved as a sensitive source
requiring journalistic protection."

A HREF="http://www.newsmax.com/showinside.shtml?a=1999/12/8/93856"http://www
.newsmax.com/showinside.shtml?a=1999/12/8/93856/A


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[CTRL] Pauline Morrissette's WTO Seattle LETS Report

1999-12-21 Thread Kris Millegan

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Subject: TURMEL: Pauline Morrissette's WTO Seattle LETS Report
From: A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "[EMAIL PROTECTED] /
A (John Turmel)
Date: Tue, 21 December 1999 12:38 AM EST
Message-id: 83n3p6$q92$[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Friday November 26th to Friday December 3rd, 1999
Seattle, Washington, U.S.A.

 This would be our last opportunity before the Millennium to
single handedly bring attention to L.E.T.S. and the power it
would give us if we could link globally. With the internet this
could be done almost overnight. So, now to the WTO, the World
Trade Organization. The world is looking on Seattle where the
world's richest man, Bill Gates who accumulated his wealth with
Microsoft, just so happens to live?

 Are we being guided? This is a big gamble and the hundreds
of thousands of L.E.T.Sers out there, who we wish could be here
to back us up on this one, all we ask is that you pray for us and
perhaps send off an urgent message to Bill Gates via his e-mail
at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tell Mr. Gates we want interest free
banking for all L.E.T.Sers world wide. For those who have already
taken the initiative to do just that, we say thank you and God
Bless. There are many radical groups here this week in Seattle,
but, I am sure we must look the most radical. More of what we are
doing and what has happened so far at the Battle in Seattle.

 I departed Ottawa at 5 a.m. Thursday, Nov. 25th. I drove
with my mother and friend Robert Cutler to Toronto where I would
board Via Rails westbound train to Vancouver, then Via Trailhead
Bus to Seattle. The reason we choose this mode of transportation
first of all it was the most inexpensive way to get to Seattle.
If you are ready to rough it a little and go Coach it is a huge
savings over flying or anything else being offered. John went
before me to set things up in Seattle for our Headquarters as I
had business to complete in Ottawa. My train pulled out on time
11:00 a.m.
 My first day and night on the train proved to be very, very
interesting and again I felt a certain peace of mind that things
were connecting and I was not alone on this journey out West. My
first contact, and I guess you can say now, my first new friend
was Marlyne Mellor of St. Pierre, Manitoba. She was our
Conductor-Hostess. As she explained to two gentlemen how to take
the little hammer and knock out the windows in the event of a
mishap, I looked on. Most people did not look amused, especially
after two trains had already been derailed this month on this
very line. I said to her I thought they should have backups. What
if they fall asleep or worst yet, are not even in the coach?

Marlyne then put me in charge of my own hammer and my own window.
I felt much more secure knowing where everything was. Marlyne and
I had many wonderful exchanges during her stint from Toronto to
Manitoba where she was then replaced.

 I was seated beside Lorraine c. Crouch of Columbia,
Missouri. Lorraine was also an activist and also destined for
Seattle to report to K.O.P.N. Community Radio in Columbia on
movements at WTO. She was stopping over in Vancouver to do a
poetry reading. I was privy to her doing a couple of her poems on
the train and enjoyed them immensely.

 The next group of people all came to me at different
intervals of the trip and this group were to be my faithful
companions for the duration. Each from different walks of life,
yet all of like mind. This was a most wonderful experience for
me. Our common gathering spot was the dome coach and throughout
the trip, this is where we spent much of our time together. As I
had spent most of my day in travel and had not eaten properly, I
decided to visit their dining car and check it out.

 I was seated at the 9 p.m. session. Helen and Arch Jones
asked if they could join me, I was delighted to have their
company. Retired folks, but also very active, they were heading
home to Prince George, B.C. They were also travelling in the
coach. We talked of the beautiful scenery and I learned that Arch
had at one time studied painting with Tom Thompson, one of the
Group of 7, a very famous group of Canadian painters displayed in
galleries all over. I told them of my quest in Seattle, how we
wanted to link Global LET Systems and how they worked. After
dinner we retired back to the coach and I gave Helen and Arch one
of John's books "The Adventures of John "The Engineer" Turmel" to
look over. I then went to the Dome car to take in some sights.

 In the Dome was a young man from New Zealand, John
McCullough,Thunder River Farm, P.O. Box 79, Murchison, South
Island, New Zealand. John and I struck up conversation. It wasn't
hard as I had been to New Zealand and had things I could talk
about. John was in Canada because he had been tree farming in New
Zealand and had a special type of timber that he wanted to sell.

He came in hopes of making a contact, plus he was thinking about
moving to 

[CTRL] Bilderberg and Secrets of Golan - Chamish

1999-12-21 Thread Kris Millegan

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"Secrets of Golan" - Chamish/A
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Subject: Bilderbergs and Secrets of the Golan
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Barry Chamish -

sI have mixed in some info on the Bilderbergs who may have known
about the Rothschilds ownership of the Syrian land -

Philip Henika

"SECRETS OF THE GOLAN by Barry Chamish

In January 1996, the business magazine section of the Tel Aviv-based
daily newspaper Globes published a four part series revealing a
profoundly important fact that was unexplainably ignored: Israel has
legal title over a large chunk of the Golan Heights and Western Syria.

In the 1890s, Baron Rothschild [ Rothschild attendees at the
Bilderberg Meetings from 1995-1999 include: [Bilderberg Evelyn de
Rothschild - Chairman, N M Rothschild and Sons -
A HREF="http://www.tlio.demon.co.uk/1998.htm"http://www.tlio.demon.co.uk/199
8.htm/A - 1998 Bilderberg Conference -
Turnberry, Ayrshire, Scotland; Bilderberg Emma Rothschild, "Dir Ctr for
History and Economics Cambridge" -
A HREF="http://www.tlio.demon.co.uk/cocktail.htm#List"http://www.tlio.demon.
co.uk/cocktail.htm#List/A - "The following attended
Bilderberg 95 in Zurich, Switzerland, June 8-11, 1995." and Bilderberg
Norman Lamont - "MP, Fmr Chan Excq, Director of N.M. Rothschild" -
A HREF="http://www.tlio.demon.co.uk/cocktail.htm#List"http://www.tlio.demon.
co.uk/cocktail.htm#List/A - "The following attended
Bilderberg 95 in Zurich, Switzerland, June 8-11, 1995."] purchased
20,000 acres of Syrian land owned by the Ottoman empire. In 1942, the
Syrian government illegally confiscated the land. The Baron transferred
the deeds to the Jewish National Fund (JNF) in 1957. In 1992, the deeds
were moved to the Prime Minister's Office where they are stored today.

After I read the series, I called a contact in the JNF, Bunny
Alexandroni of the public relations department. She said she'd look into
the matter and called me back. She informed me that she couldn't comment
on the Globes series but asked me to meet her at her office. An
appointment was made and she told me that her boss, the director of her
department, would talk to me if I agreed not to publish his name.

After so agreeing, I entered his office and he invited me to be
seated. He explained, "The Globes articles were essentially correct.
They were a bit off on the location of the Rothschild land. Some of it
is in the Golan but most is in the Horan, in Syria itself. I informed
the government that the deeds are an excellent bargaining chip with the
Syrians but the government refuses to play it. My hands are tied. I've
been instructed not to pursue the matter."

And that is the biggest secret of the Golan: the Israeli government
is holding onto legal title to land in the Golan and beyond and is
hiding the fact from the public. Of course, the first question would be,
why?

What follows is a chronological explanation of how the current
Israeli-Syrian "peace" talks came to be. For those who are unable to
dramatically readjust their sense of reality, it is advised to simply
stop reading and make do with the knowledge of the land titles. They are
more than enough to assure that Israel remains atop the Golan Heights.
For those willing to accept a drastic switch in point of view, keep
reading.

December 1990 - President George Bush invites Syria to join his
coalition of forces to fight Iraq. The only offer Syria will respond to
is a promise that America will use its power to remove Israel from the
Golan Heights. Bush's administration has already secretly transferred
$5.5 billion to Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein and is in constant contact
with him. Before the first shot of the Persian Gulf War is fired,
Hussein agrees to bombard Israel with Scud missiles. In return, he is
promised that no matter what the outcome of the war, he will not be
brought down, nor will Israel respond to the attacks.

Bush promises Syria a bombardment that will prove to the Israeli people
that territory will not protect them in the age of missiles. Later
America will put the squeeze on the Shamir government to relinquish the
Heights. Syria accepts the terms and joins the coalition.

Summer 1991 - Bush organizes a conference in Madrid to put international
pressure on the Shamir government to leave the Golan. Shamir refuses to
budge. Bush meets Syrian President Assad in Geneva. There Assad says
he's running out of patience with Bush and threatens to take matters
into his own hands before the upcoming American elections. Bush 

Re: [CTRL] Paris Y2K

1999-12-21 Thread nessie

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Will all these revelers really feel safe within their celebratory circles
surrounded by riot squads?

Not after having watched the (one sided) "Battle" of Seattle on the TV
they wont.

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[CTRL] Information required - George Soros, The Greenpeace and Amnesty international.

1999-12-21 Thread Kris Millegan

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ukrik.hr/A
Date: Mon, 20 December 1999 09:11 AM EST
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Hi there,

If anyone can supply me any information about the
bussines policyes of George Soros, The Greenpeace
and Amnesty international.
I believe these socalled non-goverment, non-profit
organisations serve for only one purpose:
the trade of weapons...

If you have any informations about this, please mail me,
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[CTRL] Ex-DEA agent spared prison time

1999-12-21 Thread Richard Sampson

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http://www.dailypress.com/news/stories/33784sy0.htm

Tuesday, Dec. 21, 1999

   Ex-DEA agent spared prison time
   Judge suspends sentence citing
   'punishment' done

   By William H. McMichael
   Daily Press

   HAMPTON - Former federal drug agent
   Joseph Armento will not go to prison for
   his role in a drunken January showdown
   outside a Hampton bar that left two fellow
   patrons wounded.

   Following Armento's emotional turn on the
   witness stand Monday morning, Circuit
   Judge Christopher W. Hutton sentenced
   him to five years in state prison and just
   as quickly suspended all of it for 10
   years, contingent on good behavior.
   Armento also will serve a
   to-be-determined period of supervised
   probation.

   "I do not feel in this case that
   incarceration would serve any purpose
   other than retribution," said Hutton, noting
   the "punishment that Mr. Armento has
   already visited upon himself."

   Armento was convicted Oct. 28 on one
   count of unlawful shooting into an
   occupied vehicle, a Class 6 felony. At the
   trial, Hutton dismissed the more serious
   charges of malicious wounding and use
   of a firearm during a felony, ruling that
   Armento acted without malice.

   In November, Armento was forced to
   resign from the Drug Enforcement
   Administration, according to a DEA
   spokesman. Suspended without pay for
   the better part of the year, he had to rely
   on unemployment benefits to help
   support his wife and three children, he
   testified.

   "It's been a nightmare," he sobbed during
   pre-sentence questioning by his attorney,
   John R. Fletcher. He said he felt
   embarrassment and shame over the
   incident.

   "I can't believe the pain I caused,"
   Armento said, barely able to speak.
   "There's not an hour in a day that I don't
   think about it." He said he'd accepted
   responsibility for the crime.

   "Obviously, very pleased with the
   sentence," Fletcher said afterward. "I
   think it was the right thing to do."

   Armento has since landed a job in
   accounting, his profession prior to joining
   the agency.

   The shootings took place just after
   midnight on Jan. 14 outside Rooney's
   Grille  Bar, where Armento and five
   other off-duty DEA agents -- in Hampton
   to assist local police -- had spent the
   evening drinking. Outside the bar,
   according to testimony, a shouting match
   erupted between several agents and
   three Hampton men. One of the three,
   Joseph Turk, produced a handgun and
   exclaimed, "You want some of this?"

   After listening to five different versions of
   what took place, Hutton found that
   Armento drew his DEA-issued 9mm
   handgun and fired a total of 14 shots.
   Turk was hit in the right arm while Jason
   Temple, backing his pickup truck away
   from the scene, was struck in the chest.
   The other man ran away.

   The original charges centered on the
   shooting of Temple; prosecutors felt the
   other shooting was justified because Turk
   drew his gun first.

   Afterward, Armento, his wife Sandy
   standing by his side outside the
   courthouse, said he was unhappy with
   news media coverage of his trial and felt
   that "this community has treated me
   unfairly from the beginning."

   Asked to elaborate, Armento criticized
   "the proceedings" but not Hutton, who
   convicted Armento Oct. 28. "He did what
   he had to do," Armento said.

   At the same time, Armento said, "I was
   trying to save my life that night. Turk,
   obviously through his own admission, had
   a gun. What was I supposed to think?
   That he was not going to use it? I reacted
   in the way I was trained."

   Armento's supervisor at the time, DEA
   Group Supervisor Frank Franco, called
   Armento a "developing crime investigator"
   who was honest and trustworthy and
   "pretty much a family man." He'd never
   seen him drunk, aggressive or
   belligerent, he said.

   Despite that endorsement, Armento said
   that the DEA "abandoned me from the
   beginning. And I thought, through the
   evidence, it was quite obvious what
   happened." He also said, 

[CTRL] IBM - They're Coming - SMART CARD campaign

1999-12-21 Thread Kris Millegan

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Subject: IBM - "They're Coming" - SMART CARD campaign
From: A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "[EMAIL PROTECTED] /A (E Right)
Date: Sun, 19 December 1999 01:55 PM EST
Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

IBM - "They're Coming" - SMART CARD campaign

Another IBM commercial in the "They're Coming" campaign features someone
who appears to be a shoplifter grabbing things off a store's shelves and
sticking them into his coat. He leaves by walking through the store exit,
stepping through what appears to be a metal detector. A cop stops him on
the way out, leading you to believe that the "detector" detected the
stolen goods - the cop reminds him to get his receipt... the store goods
were automatically deducted from the persons account using "Smart Card"
technology. You remember smart cards, computer chips that have all your
PERSONAL data on it like your SSN and bank account information? They can
be read remotely - you don't even need to remove your card from your
wallet.

Just what you need right? Of course, not only can your position be tracked
as you walk through these devices, whether you bought anything or not,
they obviously electronically record your buying habits. Will the store
sell your buying characteristics to others or the government for
PROFILING? YES,  they gave in the past!

In the past when you paid for things with a credit card, the place, date,
and total amount were recorded. More recently, a major grocery chain gave
out bar codes to swipe at the checkout for discounts - the bar code was
linked to your SSN, because it was a part of their check cashing system.
They had your grocery list and your SSN in the same computer file.

A Hong Kong company wants to use this system to deduct bus fares...
welcome to the New World Order! With this new "SMARTASS" chip in
everything to rat-on-your-ass-technology, they can track you in realtime -
without you even knowing the card in your wallet was "interrogated" when
you walked or drove through an activation field.

College students are issued Smart ID cards from their schools -
conditioning the compliant _ monitored _ generation. And the IBM
connection? "Their Coming," and enabling BIG BROTHER.

The solution, electronic countermeasures? Laws with JAIL time to
information whores stealing your privacy and selling your soul? And what
about the government's involvement in pushing BIG BROTHER technology, can
they be trusted? No! DOD is issuing "SMART" government ID cards and
advocating the technology. Are State drivers licenses next on the agenda?
Yes they are, they make it easier to ticket your for not wearing a
seatbelt or needing a tune up, or some other excuse to stop and search.

As "smart technology" develops, the distance your card can be read will be
reduced, depending on the upon the sensitivity of the reader and the
card's power, which is derived from the field you walked through.

This makes Big Brother VERY happy - keep in touch...
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Subject: Re: IBM - "They're Coming" - SMART CARD campaign
From: "Sail Jack" A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A
Date: Mon, 20 December 1999 07:26 PM EST
Message-id: 83mjgj$43m$[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Use tin foil to wrap arond all your magnetic ID stuff.
Also, read the book 1984.  Huxley missed the year a little bit, but
basically accurate.  Also read Animal Farm.
=
Subject: Re: IBM - "They're Coming" - SMART CARD campaign
From: A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "[EMAIL PROTECTED] /A (E Right)
Date: Tue, 21 December 1999 10:30 AM EST
Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

ER Correction:

" As "smart technology" develops, the distance your card can be read will be
" reduced,(CORRECTION - INCREASED!  depending on the upon the
sensitivity of the reader and the
" card's power, which is derived from the field you walked through.


 "Sail Jack" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

"Use tin foil to wrap arond all your magnetic ID stuff.
"Also, read the book 1984.  Huxley missed the year a little bit, but
"basically accurate.  Also read Animal Farm.

ER I've heard there are millimeter wave cameras which can see through
clothing, and are being developed for airport use. We'll need a suit of
armor or a jammer - I'm not a criminal, I just want the war on PRIVACY to
end.
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[CTRL] Making Windows 95 Y2K Compliant

1999-12-21 Thread Richard Sampson

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Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:19:14 -0500
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Making Windows 95 Y2K Compliant

Making sure that your Windows 95 system is Y2K compliant is a
relatively simple task. Fortunately; the Y2K problems in
Windows 95 are minor and are all taken care of by the Windows 95
Year 2000 Update.

You can find FREE detailed instructions on getting Windows 95
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Re: [CTRL] The coming end-3- Goodbye old blue eyes

1999-12-21 Thread Tenorlove

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John,

Interesting series, I'm saving it for later. Part 2 never made it here,
could you please send it down (again)? Thanks.

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Re: [CTRL] Politically Correct Jesus

1999-12-21 Thread Tatman, Robert

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Plus which, the entire marriage was a metaphor, symbolizing God's continuing
convenant with Israel despite the people's habit of whoring after false
gods. Hosea was typical of the Yahwist prophets in seeking to focus worship
solely on one supreme deity. While Eagle1's point is technically correct
(okay, it should have been fornication rather than adultery, but who's
counting?), Hosea presented himself as a type of Israel, so that when asked
"Why did you marry a whore?" he could say, "Because the people of Israel
have done exactly this by lusting after Asherah in her high places."

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 From: YnrChyldzWyld [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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 On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, Eagle 1 wrote:
 There is a difference between "sin" and "disobedience".
 The two are not equal; nor do they have the same connotations.
 Example: God ordered Hosea to marry a whore - Hosea 1:2.  He "obeyed" ...
 but technically, he "sinned", because he became party to a "sin" of the
 flesh,  which was 'adultry'.

 Wrong.  Adultery (try learning how to spell it correctly) according to
 the Bible, is sexual relations between a man and a woman who are both
 married to someone else.  If only one partner is married, only that
 person is committing adultery.  An unmarried person cannot commit
 adultery, neither is sexual intercourse between a man and a woman who are
 legally married to each other adultery.

 Hosea was legally married to the whore, therefore he could not be
 committing adultery when he had sexual relations with her.  Neither was
 she an adulteress when having sexual relations with Hosea.  And the fact
 that she was able to legally marry Hosea suggests that she was not
 married to another man, therefore even when she made a living as a whore,
 SHE did not commit adultery, even tho a client may have been married.  It
 would have been her married clients who were adulterers...


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[CTRL] Secret War in Shanghai

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Before World War II, Shanghai was China's leading commercial center and the
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intent on exploiting a defenseless China. The city's seizure by the Imperial
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The louche cynicism of wartime Shanghai emerges from Wasserstein's account of
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Well-written, well-researched, but ultimately flat look at the covert (and
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[CTRL] Raiders of the China Coast : CIA Covert Operations During the Korean War

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In an effort to divert China's attention from the Korean front in 1950 and
relieve pressure on the allied forces, the CIA sponsored a series of raids
along the southeastern coast of China conducted by anti-Communist guerrillas.
The guerrillas were trained and supported by the paramilitary arm of the CIA
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remained sealed from public view. Now for the first time in print, the full
dramatic story of this large-scale paramilitary campaign is revealed by a
veteran of the operations.
Author Frank Holober, a Harvard-educated Chinese specialist and veteran
intelligence officer, takes the reader inside the little-known world of
clandestine partisan operations early in the Cold War. In lively,
straightforward prose, he describes the dangerous top-secret raids launched
by Chinese Nationalist guerrillas (assisted by a colorful band of American
adventurers) from Quemoy and other lesser-known islands off the Chinese
mainland. Both anecdotal and analytical, his book is serious history with
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Holober is at his best recalling the courageous feats and robust adventures
of the "civilian" employees of the Agency-run Western Enterprises, Inc.,
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veterans, reservists, smokejumpers, college football stars, and psychological
warfare specialists surrounding a nucleus of veterans of the OSS's fabled 101
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"Earthquake McGoon," whose camaraderie and zest for living are matched only
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Totally candid and unusually insightful, this eyewitness account of special
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appeal to everyone from intelligence specialists and China scholars to
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Holober's account is unusually insightful.

Reviewer: A reader  from Palm Beach, Fl   September 29, 1999

Frank Holober's account of the CIA paramilitary operations on the
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who ran the operation, he humanizes the story in a way few CIA
insiders-turned-authors have managed. It makes for an entertaining, as well
as informative, read -- a rare find within this usually dry-as-toast genre. I
recommend it to all history buffs as well as readers newly venturing into the
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A fascinating account with unprecedented insights

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This book, which focuses on a little-known U.S. campaign to diminish Chinese
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early days of the Cold War, and the bravery and camaraderie of those involved
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Re: [CTRL] Politically Correct Jesus

1999-12-21 Thread Eagle 1

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Robert,
Thank you for that excellent minimized summary of the situation. You're
right,  who is counting?  (In my book the two equate... on the bottom line,
anyway. They still result in the same act.)

Yes,  God is not happy with the continued following of and worshipping of
other gods.  This action on the part of Hosea was also symbollic and type
for the last days,  when the habits of most show to have lost their sense of
direction and who follow after strange gods, strange flesh, and other
doctrinal "philosophies" that are directly contrary and replaced in the
stead of the Covenant that God has made with Israel from generation to
generation to the end of this earth age.

eagle 1

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Politically Correct Jesus


 -Caveat Lector-

 Plus which, the entire marriage was a metaphor, symbolizing God's
continuing
 convenant with Israel despite the people's habit of whoring after false
 gods. Hosea was typical of the Yahwist prophets in seeking to focus
worship
 solely on one supreme deity. While Eagle1's point is technically correct
 (okay, it should have been fornication rather than adultery, but who's
 counting?), Hosea presented himself as a type of Israel, so that when
asked
 "Why did you marry a whore?" he could say, "Because the people of Israel
 have done exactly this by lusting after Asherah in her high places."

  -Original Message-
  From: YnrChyldzWyld [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Saturday, December 18, 1999 8:49 AM
  To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:  Re: [CTRL] Politically Correct Jesus
 
   -Caveat Lector-
 
  On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, Eagle 1 wrote:
  There is a difference between "sin" and "disobedience".
  The two are not equal; nor do they have the same connotations.
  Example: God ordered Hosea to marry a whore - Hosea 1:2.  He "obeyed"
...
  but technically, he "sinned", because he became party to a "sin" of the
  flesh,  which was 'adultry'.
 
  Wrong.  Adultery (try learning how to spell it correctly) according to
  the Bible, is sexual relations between a man and a woman who are both
  married to someone else.  If only one partner is married, only that
  person is committing adultery.  An unmarried person cannot commit
  adultery, neither is sexual intercourse between a man and a woman who
are
  legally married to each other adultery.
 
  Hosea was legally married to the whore, therefore he could not be
  committing adultery when he had sexual relations with her.  Neither was
  she an adulteress when having sexual relations with Hosea.  And the fact
  that she was able to legally marry Hosea suggests that she was not
  married to another man, therefore even when she made a living as a
whore,
  SHE did not commit adultery, even tho a client may have been married.
It
  would have been her married clients who were adulterers...
 
 
  June ;-)

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Re: [CTRL] Phoenicians in ancient New Zealand ? (fwd)

1999-12-21 Thread Tatman, Robert

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You're assuming that both "Israel" and "Phoenicia" were nations as we know
that concept today. They weren't. They were a collection of cities (i.e.
trading stations) loosely held together by cultural ties and fealty to a
"high king." As we've discussed in other threads, there is considerable
evidence of close cultural contact between Syria-Canaan-Israel and Mycenaean
Greeks, both in Greece and in Anatolia. The "Philistines" (who gave their
name, via a convoluted route, to "Filistina" [Palestine]) seem to have been
a particularly heterogeneous group, some of whom were usually fighting with
various Israelites at any given time...while at the same time other
Philistines were *allied* with various Israelites. The same was true of
Phoenicia, as well as Ammon, Midian, and the other "nations" of the Fertile
Crescent. It wasn't the non-existent "king of Phoenicia" who was allied with
Solomon of Israel, for example, but rather Hiram of Tyre...and it is not at
all beyond the realm of possibility that there were Israelites on ships
sailing out of Tyre and other Phoenician cities.

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 On Sat, 18 Dec 1999, Nurev Ind Research wrote:
 
snip
 cities on the Eastern Mediterranean evolved into Philistia. The
 Philistines
 were the enemies of the Jews then and down to this day. Both tribes were
 warring over the same territory. Down to this very day.

 Not according to the archeological evidence presented in the article --
 before they became Philistines, apparantly Israel and Phoenicia were
 quite cordial with each other...Phoenicia in the beginning apparantly
 acted as an outpost of its neighbor to the south...



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Re: [CTRL] Did humans lose a sixth sense?

1999-12-21 Thread Tatman, Robert

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On a different tack, but generally agreeing, I used to have a supervisor who
was a quintessential jock--a triathlete, for God's sake! When he had an
all-male meeting in his office, the place smelled like a locker room after
they finished. You could almost *see* the testosterone in the air.

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  snip

 Research has shown that the one constant in partners staying together is
 liking each other's personal aroma.  Conversely, couples tend to split if
 they don't like how their partner smells.

 Hilary



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Re: [CTRL] Politically Correct Jesus

1999-12-21 Thread Tatman, Robert

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"Religious science fiction," bordering on heresy if it wasn't in the
Bible... ISTM that there are an awful lot of supposed "Christians" who spend
more time contemplating the Devil or angels or saints or anything other than
Jesus Christ.

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 In a message dated 12/19/99 9:15:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 (Still LOL about satan under the little tiles...  that's funny!)
 If it matters,  Satan is alive and well and being held in heaven until
 Michael releases him for a very special purpose... which you can read
 about
 by going to your Bible,  2 Thessalonians 2:1-12). (And contrary to
 popular
 belief,  satan has never seen the sights of any place called 'hell', as
 of
 yet.  He has a more special place for his demise).
 

  Fairytales.
 Om
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[CTRL] Ad Alleges Bush Drug Problem

1999-12-21 Thread DIG alfred webre

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/19991220/aponline201518_000.htm



  Ad Alleges Bush Drug Problem
 [NARFE]
  The Associated Press
 [Partners:]  Monday, Dec. 20, 1999; 8:15 p.m. EST

  MANCHESTER, N.H. –– A Florida lawyer who is
 [CDNOW: buy 3, ship FREE!]   running for president aired a political
  advertisement on New Hampshire's biggest
  television news station on Monday, alleging
 [VoxCap] Texas Gov. George W. Bush suffered from
  "alcohol abuse" and had a cocaine problem.

  Andy Martin, a West Palm Beach lawyer and
  perennial candidate for various political
  offices, is running the ad on WMUR-TV, an ABC
  affiliate that has aired presidential
  debates.

  The Bush campaign said it had not asked WMUR
  to stop running the ad. Spokesman Ari
  Fleischer said WMUR would have to decide that
  on its own.

  "It's part of the unfortunate nonsense that
  can come with political campaigns," Fleischer
  said. "These things are as mean-spirited as
  they are inaccurate."

  WMUR spokeswoman Julie Campasano, who handles
  media inquiries about the station's
  advertising policies, refused to answer
  questions about why the station accepted the
  ad.

  In the ad, Martin alleges: "George Bush had a
  cocaine problem. His brain suffered from
  alcohol abuse. Don't trust Bush with your
  vote until he trusts you with the truth about
  his past."

  Bush has refused to answer some questions
  about his past, saying only that he has not
  used illegal drugs since 1975. No evidence
  has surfaced that he ever used cocaine.

  Martin began airing commercials in New
  Hampshire before Thanksgiving, calling
  himself "New Hampshire's favorite son for
  president."

  Jonathan Klarfeld, a journalism professor at
  Boston University, said WMUR is not required
  to run the ad.

  "They get to refuse any ad they find
  offensive," Klarfeld said.

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[CTRL] US Prisons in the Millennium

1999-12-21 Thread DIG alfred webre

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http://www.nytimes.com/library/opinion/lewis/122199lewi.html

   December 21, 1999

   AT HOME ABROAD / By ANTHONY LEWIS

   Punishing the Country

   -  [A] s we enter the new millennium, the population of
   America's prisons and jails is approaching two
   million. It will pass that mark, according to the
   Justice Policy Institute in Washington, around Feb. 15.

   In the entire world about eight million people are
   incarcerated, so a quarter of them are in this country.

   The number of prisoners has been growing at an
   extraordinary pace, up 70 percent in the last 10 years.
   We have overtaken Russia for the honor of having the
   world's highest incarceration rate.

   All this has a profound social cost. Since 1995 the
   states have spent more on prison than on university
   construction. Operating prisons in the year 2000 will
   cost about $40 billion.

   And of course it is not just the money. Two-thirds of
   the prisoners are there for nonviolent offenses.
   Chances are good that by the time they are released --
   after sentences that are among the longest anywhere --
   they will be thoroughly brutalized.

   The figures are so stunning that even some experts
   known for taking a hard line on crime think it is time
   for a reappraisal of criminal justice policies. One is
   Prof. John J. DiIulio Jr. of Princeton. He summed up
   his view in The Wall Street Journal in March under the
   headline "Two Million Prisoners Are Enough."

   "The value of imprisonment is a portrait in the law of
   rapidly diminishing returns," Professor DiIulio said.
   He noted that correctional costs were squeezing money
   for policing. He urged officials everywhere to maintain
   gains in public safety "while keeping the prison
   population around two million and even aiming to reduce
   it over the next decade."

   To that end he suggested, first, repealing
   mandatory-minimum drug sentencing laws. Since 1973 the
   Rockefeller drug laws in New York State have imposed
   fixed terms running from 15 years to life for all kinds
   of offenses. Federal laws also include many mandatory
   minimums.

   The result of fixed sentences is to put hundreds of
   thousands of nonviolent drug offenders away for many
   years, at great cost to them and to us. About a quarter
   of those in American prisons and jails are drug
   violators, according to the Justice Policy Institute.
   Their number has gone up sevenfold in the last 20
   years.

   Professor DiIulio called for the release of nonviolent
   offenders imprisoned only for drug violations. He also
   urged that drug treatment be required for users, in
   prison and afterward.

   Legislation that requires extremely long sentences for
   drug and some other crimes is a political phenomenon of
   the last 25 years or so. Few politicians, state or
   national, have been willing to challenge the mantra of
   "toughness on crime" -- willing to look at the harsh
   consequences of such rigidity, human and societal.

   Mandatory-minimum sentences seem to me to reflect the
   delusion that eliminating the element of judgment will
   make the criminal justice system work better. Absolute
   rules assure certainty. But they also assure injustice.

   Leaving too much discretion to judges risks uneven
   sentences. Leaving none produces equally harsh
   sentences for situations and individuals that demand
   different treatment. The same delusion mars the 1996
   Immigration Act, with its requirement of automatic
   deportation for minor crimes.

   The other distinctive feature of criminal justice in
   the United States is capital punishment. All other
   Western countries have given it up as an atavistic
   barbarity. It continues here despite a growing number
   of releases of death-row prisoners after last-minute
   proof of their innocence.

   Study after study has shown that executions do not
   deter further murders. Yet George W. Bush has defended
   the death penalty on the ground that it "will save
   other innocent lives."

   As governor of Texas, Mr. Bush has presided over 113
   executions, more than any other governor in modern
   times. A compelling Boston Globe story by John Aloysius
   Farrell pointed out that in the next five weeks
   Governor Bush must 

[CTRL] Kris: High Times article: Purchase Info

1999-12-21 Thread Gavin Phillips

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Hi Kris:

Where do I buy a copy? Barnes and Noble or Borders? Thanks. Gavin.

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Re: [CTRL] Anarchism: Two Kinds / Wendy McElroy

1999-12-21 Thread Tatman, Robert

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Nessie, you and I may disagree about nonviolence (and BTW, I'm going to pick
up that thread again soon), but here we agree completely. There is no such
thing as "Russian" anarchism (usually described as nihilism), "American"
anarchism, "German" anarchism, etc. That would be as impossible as electing
the president of  the International Anarchist Central Committee. I suspect
that a lot of the "explanations" of anarchism going around right now are
desinformatsiya, aimed at discrediting a movement which has the potential to
pose a serious threat to the Oligarchy, and also at encouraging anarchists
who speak particular languages to identify themselves as "Russian,"
"American," "German," "Catalan," and thus put artificial boundaries between
people and disrupt the movement's unity.

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 An excellent article that explains this tricky subject really well!

 This article is bunk. It is absurd to talk about "American" anarchism and
 "Russian" anarchism. Anarchism, by definition,  recognizes no borders. If
 you're one of us, you're one of us, period. We don't care where you're
 from. It is particularly absurd to atribute the differences between
 individualist anarchism and collectivist anarchism to national origin.
 Both tendencies exist everywhere anarchists exist, which is most places on
 earth.  Both are present in virtually every anarchist individual. We
 believe that self reliance and mutual aid are of equal importance.

 If you want to know about anarchism, don't listen to non-anarchists. Never
 believe anything anybody says about their enemies. Listen to what we say
 about ourselves and our beliefs. We knowus  better  than anybody does.

snip

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[CTRL] WACO Remarks By NEW ATF Director Bradley A. Buckles

1999-12-21 Thread BARD

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.FAR AND WIDE!
Note:  He is on C-SPAN 2 while this Post is being sent.
http://www.wizardsofaz.com/waco/waco4.html
Many excellent images.

Brothers and Sisters, This is one GREAT web site.
Bard

Remarks By Deputy Director Bradley A. Buckles
  ATF Memorial
Service
  National Police
Week
 May 14, 1997
  "The very nature of our enforcement mission has historically brought
us face to face with the Nations most violent criminals. It is,
therefore, not surprising that the
   number of ATF agents who have lost their lives in the performance of
their duties – which numbers 182 -- is among the highest in Federal law
enforcement."

   Is it no WONDER? Sounds like ATF is
its own worst violent criminal.
   How many of the deaths are attributed to
training exercises, lack of communication,
faulty equipment, INCOMPETENT Commanders, no
written raid plan or specific instructions,
and FRIENDLY FIRE!?

   Sometime around noon, Buford was transported to Hillcrest Baptist
Medical Center, where Pat Muhl was the nursing supervisor on duty. "The
first person we
   received, LeBleu, was dead," said Muhl, a nurse for 26 years. "We
were all sad, but we did not have time to be sad for long because others
were coming in."

 Two other agents were dead on arrival, four
went to surgery and six others were treated, said Muhl.
http://www.wizardsofaz.com/waco/waco4.html
---
Branch Davidian Victims:
http://www.wizardsofaz.com/waco/memorial.html

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Re: [CTRL] Anarchism: Two Kinds / Wendy McElroy

1999-12-21 Thread Tatman, Robert

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Hell, even the distinction between collectivist and individualist is
baloney. The anarchists you name here leaped right out of the political
spectrum and became non-Euclideans. Consider Proudhon:

  Property is theft.
  Property is liberty.
  Property is impossible.

Whenever I try to seriously understand Proudhon, I am reminded of the *Last
Whole Earth Catalog*'s comment on the *Tao Te Ching*: "Just when you think
you understand it, it giggles and rains on you."

;^)


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 nessie wrote:
 
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  An excellent article that explains this tricky subject really well!
 
  This article is bunk. It is absurd to talk about "American" anarchism
 and
  "Russian" anarchism. Anarchism, by definition,  recognizes no borders.
 If
  you're one of us, you're one of us, period. We don't care where you're
  from. It is particularly absurd to atribute the differences between
  individualist anarchism and collectivist anarchism to national origin.

 True, it is particularly absurd to attribute the differences between
 individualist anarchism and collectivist anarchism to national origin, but
 you must admit there are major philosophical differences between great
 European Anarchist thinkers like Mikhail Bakunin, Peter Kropotkin,
 Pierre-Joseph Proudhon, et al. (collectivist), and great America's
 Anarchist thinkers like Benjamin Tucker, Lysander Spooner, etc.
 (individualist). Their national origin is irrelevant and at most a
 coincidence, although their differences in beliefs are not (collectivist
 v.
 individualist, anarcho-syndicalist v. anarcho-capitalist, anarcho-left v.
 anarcho-right, etc.). And although all the beliefs of these great thinkers
 would not fit neatly into a single 'faction', many of them do, and they
 serve to give a rough idea of where they each stand, what type of anarcho
 society they advocate, and how to get there. So while the 'national
 origin'
 fallacy is generally bunk, it does not necessarily make the entire article
 bunk.

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[CTRL] Rate Your Sex Life (fwd)

1999-12-21 Thread Yardbird

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Remember liberals make the lousiest lovers :(


HOW SATISFYING IS YOUR SEX LIFE?
Rate your sex life with the Sexuality Poll in Snap's Guide to
Sexual Health.  Find tips and techniques about your sex drive,
birth control and more, plus get the latest in sexual health
news.
http://edition.snap.com/LMOID/resource/0,566,-12,00.html?dd.snap.d4

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[CTRL] MonSatan bBGH geneMod FrankenFood / Fraud Drugging Apparatchik (FDA)

1999-12-21 Thread Dave

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Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/dave


Yes! Another GMO document for your attention. If you care to read through
this one, you'll see why the FDA is so corrupted and why there should be a
Watergate-style inquiry into its decisions which are completely mangled by
the ever-encroaching grasp and control of corporate lobbies.

Labelling poisonous foods - and now irradiated meat on top of it all in the
US - but leaving the lethal substance on sale for the unconscious and
stupidly trusting public to eat is blatantly criminal and a sheer
masquerade.

How many millions of children will need to die an excruciatingly painful
death from cancer before you guys in the media wake up and realize that by
remaining silent about this you are not better than those who conspired to
have their lucrative poisons approved by this fraudulent FDA?

And if you are not from the USA, how could you believe that the
international reach of these megacorporations does not apply to your
country's own food regulatory system?

The time to act is right NOW!

From Richard Wolfson's web site,
http://www.natural-law.ca/genetic/geindex.html

(Slightly edited.  If you read no other posts, please read this
one.  Robert Cohen's story played a big role in my lobbying the
Mass. legislature in 1997 in support of an rBGH labeling bill.
--Dick)

FDA Testimony by Robert Cohen

Robert Cohen was the final speaker on an FDA panel in
Washington on Tuesday, Nov. 30, 1999.  Some of you may have
seen his speech on C-Span.  Members of the panel included
Mildred Cody of the American Dietetic Association; Mario Teisl,
a professor of economics at the University of Maine; John Gray,
president of the International Food Service Distributors
Association; Kendal Keith, president of the National Grain 
Feed Association; and Richard Caplan, an environmental
advocate with the US Public Interest Research Group.

Cohen's Testimony:

Hi everybody, I've got to apologize first - I don't have a
prepared statement like the other panel members. All I'm going
to give here is some facts.

I have a copy of the Federal Register. It says here advertising
this meeting:

"FDA is not aware of information that will distinguish
genetically engineered food as a class from other foods."

[Mr. Cohen turns and addresses panel members.] I'm going to
give you some information today, guys.

The greatest controversy in FDA history was the approval
process for Monsanto's genetically engineered bovine growth
hormone. We shouldn't be here today! We should not be in this
room and I shouldn't be here because, in 1994, Congress HAD A
BILL that was going to require mandatory labeling of all foods
that were influenced by genetic engineering. I got my
Congresswoman to co-sponsor that bill - 181 congresspeople
co-sponsored that bill, and you know what? I learned how
Congress works that year because in 6 months they stalled the
bill -- 12 members of the Dairy Livestock  Poultry Committee
-- they stalled the bill until the 1994 session of Congress
expired and the bill died.

I was so upset, I investigated these 12 men and found that
collectively they took $711,000 in PAC money from companies
with dairy interests, and four of the members of the
committee took money directly from Monsanto.

Now we've got a lot of political intrigue and some real science
here ... We've got a combination of John Grisham and ... Stephen
King.

Nikita Khrushchev said that what the scientists have in their
briefcase is terrifying [Mr. Cohen then opened his briefcase and
pulled out a stack of papers] -- and I've got some interesting
things in my briefcase to share with you today.

When Monsanto made their genetically engineered bovine
growth hormone, they noticed a couple of problems right
towards the end -- right before approval. They noticed that
laboratory animals were getting cancer, and they noticed that
cows were getting mastitis, ulcers in their udders. They were
putting more pus and bacteria into the milk. So Monsanto
arranged --

We've heard from Dr. Maryanski this morning, and Dr. Maryanski
talked about the Pure Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act but what he
didn't tell you was that in 1958, Robert Delaney, a congressman
from New York, added the Delaney Amendment which was
named after him. The Delaney Amendment stated that if a food
additive caused cancer, it was not to be approved - a pretty
good law - right?

-- Monsanto got their attorney, Michael Taylor from the firm of
King  Spalding --By the way, when they started in 1979, they
groomed their attorney who is now in the Supreme Court,
Clarence Thomas, from the same law firm--

Anyway, Monsanto's attorney, Michael Taylor, wrote and
minimized the Delaney Amendment- he wrote a scientific paper
that was published in the "Journal of Toxicology". Lawyers
--they write in law review journals, but this lawyer wrote in
the "Journal of Toxicology": "a De-Minumus interpretation of
the Delaney Amendment" became the new protocol, the new
standard operating 

[CTRL] Y2K bug will trigger major worldwide recession..

1999-12-21 Thread BARD

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 .far and wide!

 TUESDAY
DECEMBER 21
  1999

   Joseph Farah
is editor of
WorldNetDaily.com.


   Y2K predictions


   Here we are just days away from the rollover to
   the year 2000, and it's still anybody's guess as to
   the effects of the computer bug.

   Most government officials and establishment
   media outlets have been dismissing the seriousness
   of the Y2K date change on technology.

   But, yet, if you look hard enough for the reports,
   you'll find local, state and federal government
   officials and bureaucrats will, in many parts of the
   country, be hunkered down in Y2K bunkers
   powered by generators, with emergency food and
   water supplies and backup telecommunications
   systems that would be the envy of Bill Gates.

   In Washington, Massachusetts, New York and Los
   Angeles, armed guards will ensure that the
   ordinary civilians who paid for such structures are
   denied entry to them. These facilities are for the
   elite -- many of whom are still telling us there's
   nothing to worry about.

   If, indeed, there's nothing to worry about, why
   would these skeptics be locking themselves in
   underground vaults on the biggest party night of
   the year? It makes you wonder.

   The fact of the matter is that there are serious
   concerns -- not only among government officials,
   but for bankers, insurance executives, power
   suppliers and lots of others who have come to rely
   on technology for simplification, accuracy and
   efficiency.

   Though government and most of corporate
   America have declared virtually all critical systems
   will function normally when Jan. 1 arrives, only a
   tiny portion of most computer code is actually
   tested to make sure the year "00" will be correctly
   interpreted. And the truth is, even the most
   confident computer managers anticipate at least
   minor flaws.

   But, ultimately, nobody really knows what's going
   to happen Jan. 1 and beyond.

   A day doesn't go by lately that I'm not asked what
   I think will happen. Of course, I don't know any
   more than any of the experts. And, as I've said
   many times, my biggest concern about Y2K is the
   potential for overreaction and manipulation by
   those in government who would like to end our
   freedoms, deny us our basic individual liberties
   and put an end to our most fundamental personal
   rights.

   That's still the true worst case scenario for Y2K --
   yet an entirely plausible one, given the
   government's preoccupation with hunting down
   terrorists, religious subversives and
   anti-government conspirators under virtually
   every bed.

   It won't be long now before we will all see for
   ourselves whether Y2K was just a lot of hype or
   whether it was the underplayed story of the
   century.

   My guess is that neither the doomsayers nor the
   skeptics have it quite right.

   Personally, I don't expect the sky to fall on New
   Year's Eve, nor the next day. I do expect some
   major failures. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if we
   saw some power outages and other technology
   problems immediately.

   But, I believe the real ramifications of Y2K are not
   short-term, they are long-term. I believe it may be
   months, even years, before we can actually
   evaluate the damage it triggers in our economy
   through a ripple effect that will largely begin in
   foreign countries on which Americans have
   allowed themselves to become far too reliant --
   even dependent.

   I'm no prophet, but based on my readings and
   analysis, I predict the Y2K bug will trigger a major
   worldwide recession beginning in 2000 and
   possibly worsening thereafter.

   Recessions are 

[CTRL] NEW! Davidian lawyer raises questions on Delta Force

1999-12-21 Thread BARD

 -Caveat Lector-

Davidian lawyer raises questions on Delta Force
He says testimony leaves gap in siege account

12/21/99

By Lee Hancock / The Dallas Morning News

Sworn testimony from two members of the Army's secret Delta Force unit
raises questions about the actions of a third Delta soldier during the
last hours of the Branch Davidian standoff, a lawyer for the sect said
Monday.

Two technical specialists from the classified anti-terrorist unit were
among 24 government witnesses questioned in recent depositions by
lawyers for the Branch Davidians, and their testimony indicated that
"there's a combat guy [from the same unit] whose time is not accounted
for on April 19," said Mike Caddell, lead lawyer for the Branch
Davidians.

Mr. Caddell said a protective order in the sect's wrongful-death lawsuit
against the federal government prohibits divulging exact testimony of
the government witnesses. They were questioned during two weeks of
depositions in Washington that ended Friday.

Justice Department officials did not return telephone calls for comment
Monday. An FBI spokesman said he was unfamiliar with the matter. Justice
Department spokesmen have previously declined to comment on depositions
in the case.

Mr. Caddell said the depositions left unanswered key questions about
Delta Force's involvement in an FBI tank and tear-gas assault on the
Branch Davidian compound. He said the questioning of FBI and military
personnel also failed to resolve whether Delta Force soldiers or any
other government agents fired guns into the building on April 19, 1993 -
a charge that the government has denied.

Pressed on the issue of government gunfire, the FBI's hostage rescue
team members questioned during the depositions said they did not
personally fire or witness any government gunfire April 19, Mr. Caddell
said.

But neither they nor FBI technical experts who operated FBI infrared
cameras during the standoff could explain the origin of repeated flashes
on an infrared videotape recorded by an airborne camera during the last
hours of the tear-gas assault, Mr. Caddell said.

Experts hired by the plaintiffs have said the flashes could have come
only from government gunfire. Government experts dispute that, but an
independent expert hired by the House Government Reform Committee to
examine the infrared video has said he also thought that flashes were
thermal signatures from gunfire.

"One thing that became clear from this first round of depositions:
Whatever really happened on April 19, there's only a handful of people
that really know," Mr. Caddell said. "This operation obviously proceeded
on a need-to-know basis. I would say fewer than a dozen people really
knew what was going to happen or what did happen that day."

Government officials and lawyers have adamantly denied that any Delta
Force personnel were actively involved in the April 19 assault, which
ended in a massive fire that consumed the Branch Davidian compound with
more than 80 people inside. Government officials maintain that members
of the sect set the fire.

The Branch Davidians' federal lawsuit, set for trial in May in Waco,
alleges that government negligence and actions caused the deaths of
dozens of innocent women and children and other Branch Davidian
followers.

Lawyers for the sect have alleged that government agents, possibly
including Delta Force members, repeatedly fired guns into the compound
in the last hours of the siege.

Justice Department lawyers initially tried to limit the Branch Davidian
lawyers to written questioning of Delta Force members who were in Waco
on April 19.

Secret units

Defense Department documents indicate that three soldiers from a secret
military unit were present as observers on April 19 and that other
Special Forces personnel from a classified military unit were shuttled
in and out of Waco during the 51-day standoff. Delta Force is a
classified military unit so secret that the Defense Department routinely
refuses to acknowledge its existence.

Defense Department officials ultimately allowed Branch Davidian lawyers
to question the Delta Force soldiers who were at Waco on April 19 only
if the soldiers could sit behind a protective screen during the
deposition, Mr. Caddell said. Lawyers for the sect also had to agree
that the soldiers would not have to divulge identifying information, Mr.
Caddell said.

The two soldiers who were questioned, both technical equipment
specialists, denied active involvement in FBI operations in Waco,
including the final assault, Mr. Caddell said. But they acknowledged
that they could not account for the whereabouts of their unit's combat
arms representative April 19 until after the compound burned.

"Frankly, their explanation for that, the cover story that was given to
explain his absence, was preposterous," Mr. Caddell said, adding that he
could not divulge details of that story because of the court's
protective order.

Mr. Caddell said he hoped to question the third soldier during the next

Re: [CTRL] Y2K WARNING (fwd)

1999-12-21 Thread flw

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 From YnrChyldzWyld [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Y2K Warning - Please read

 WARNING!!!

  Please take time out of your busy life to check your toilet paper
  stockpile.

  Make sure it is Y2K Compliant !!!

  Word has it, if it is NOT Y2K compliant, on January 1, 2000
  it will roll back to 1900 and turn into a Sears Catalog 

Thanks for the info.
I will be using compliant toilet paper to wipe the fecal matter from my screen
generated by your silly posts.
flw

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Re: [CTRL] Phoenicians in ancient New Zealand ? (fwd)

1999-12-21 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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"Tatman, Robert" wrote:

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 You're assuming that both "Israel" and "Phoenicia" were nations as we know
 that concept today. They weren't. They were a collection of cities (i.e.
 trading stations) loosely held together by cultural ties and fealty to a
 "high king."

This is certainly true of the Phoenicians, but I'm not so sure about other
people who were tribal and had tribal territories.

 As we've discussed in other threads, there is considerable
 evidence of close cultural contact between Syria-Canaan-Israel and Mycenaean
 Greeks, both in Greece and in Anatolia. The "Philistines" (who gave their
 name, via a convoluted route, to "Filistina" [Palestine]) seem to have been
 a particularly heterogeneous group, some of whom were usually fighting with
 various Israelites at any given time...while at the same time other
 Philistines were *allied* with various Israelites. The same was true of
 Phoenicia, as well as Ammon, Midian, and the other "nations" of the Fertile
 Crescent. It wasn't the non-existent "king of Phoenicia" who was allied with
 Solomon of Israel, for example, but rather Hiram of Tyre

This is true.

...and it is not at
 all beyond the realm of possibility that there were Israelites on ships
 sailing out of Tyre and other Phoenician cities.

This is probably true also. But only because the Phoenicians traded along
the coasts. Many nations, including Egypt, sailed along the coasts. In coastal
trading, it is possible that Israelites, and maybe even others sailed with
them. But that did not apply to trans oceanic sailing. The Phoenicians had a
monopoly on that and didn't share their secrets with anyone.

Joshua2


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  From: YnrChyldzWyld [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Sunday, December 19, 1999 8:25 AM
  To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:  Re: [CTRL] Phoenicians in ancient New Zealand ?  (fwd)
 
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  On Sat, 18 Dec 1999, Nurev Ind Research wrote:
  
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  cities on the Eastern Mediterranean evolved into Philistia. The
  Philistines
  were the enemies of the Jews then and down to this day. Both tribes were
  warring over the same territory. Down to this very day.
 
  Not according to the archeological evidence presented in the article --
  before they became Philistines, apparantly Israel and Phoenicia were
  quite cordial with each other...Phoenicia in the beginning apparantly
  acted as an outpost of its neighbor to the south...
 
 
 
  June ;-)

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[CTRL] [libnw] Yeltsin Puts Nuclear Missiles on 'Red Alert'

1999-12-21 Thread Nicky Molloy

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Yeltsin Puts Nuclear Missiles on 'Red Alert'


Foreign Affairs News Keywords: YELTSIN NUKES CHECHNYA
Source: NewsMax
Published: December 14, 1999 Author: unsigned
Posted on 12/14/1999 14:42:08 PST by dirtboy



Still furious over United States criticism of Russia's war in
Chechnya,
President Boris Yeltsin has placed his most deadly intercontinental
nuclear
missiles on "combat alert." The Moscow bureau of the London Express is
reporting that, on his orders, 10 of Russia's newest, most
sophisticated

weapons — capable of striking the United States — have been deployed
in
full readiness.

This unprecedented dramatic warning has Western observers nervous
about
the
possibility of an inadvertent launch at a time when it is known that
Russia's missiles are not fully reprogrammed to avert all
millennium-year
computer failures.

Russia just recently sent computer and missile experts to Washington
to
work with American specialists in averting Y2K glitches.

The alerted missiles — Topol-Ms, with a striking range of 6,200 miles
—
are
based in the Saratov region, 400 miles southeast of Moscow.

According to the Express:

Although the West was advised in advance, as required by nuclear
treaty
commitments, the rarity of this move can be regarded only as a
deliberate
and serious show of force to underscore Yeltsin's outrage.

It coincided with his return to Russia after a trip to China, where he
warned Clinton and other Western leaders to stay out of Russia's
business
in Chechnya.

He brandished Russia's still great missile threat by thundering:

"Russia is a great power that possesses a full nuclear arsenal. It is
we

who will dictate."

Recently, Gen. Vladimir Yakovlev, the Russian missiles-forces
commander,

bragged:

"Of the five nuclear powers, none of the others will match these
weapons
in
the next few years.

"Topol-M is able to breach any anti-missile system that exists in the
world
and any which will be built in the near future."

Also troubled by the missile alert are Russian politicians and
analysts
who
regard Yeltsin as too ill to have his finger on the trigger of the
world's
second largest nuclear power.

Britain's leading independent nuclear expert, John Large, said

"There was an unwritten agreement for both Russia and the U.S. not to
deploy nuclear weapons before the Y2K period.

"Even if the weapons themselves are OK — which I very much doubt since
their testing system has been effectively down and out for three years
—

they would have to work within the strategic defense system there,
which
is
full of Y2K glitches.

"There is no real need for it — it is a risk they don't need to take.

"I am not suggesting that these nuclear bombs will go off on their
own,
but
we do expect to see the defense systems playing up a bit."
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[CTRL] Tarpley

1999-12-21 Thread pmeares

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I've been having trouble accessing Tarpley's homepage at:

http://www.radix.net/~tarpley/

Does Linda or anyone know if he changed servers,
or if his pages are mirrored elsewhere on the web?
[Maybe the server's just been down a lot lately,
and I've merely had bad luck when accessing it.]


Thanks,
philately

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[CTRL] Stopping Spammers (fwd)

1999-12-21 Thread Bill Kingsbury

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 forwarded message
 From: "Fred Langa" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [langalist] 20-Dec-99 LangaList

 An easier-to read, formatted, HTML version is available for
 online reading at  http://www.langa.com/whats_new.htm
 Please email the LangaList to a friend!

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 3) Stopping Spammers

 Last week, I told you how spammers used a forged email header to
 make it appear that a spam mail was coming from Langa.Com. (see
 http://www.langa.com/newsletters/Dec-16-99.htm#8 ) Of course, the
 spam mail did NOT come from here; and in fact it never even passed
 through my mail server, which is specifically configured to prevent
 abuse by spammers.

 After I told you about my brush with spammers, I heard from many
 readers (thank you!) including Suresh Ramasubramanian, writing from
 India.

 Suresh is a member of CAUCE, The Coalition Against Unsolicited
 Commercial Email. It's a worldwide, all-volunteer organization
 dedicated to fighting spam. I've quietly been a supporter for
 years; I carry CAUCE's "no spam" logo on my home page at
 http://www.langa.com.

 Suresh had some great suggestions for me. For example, I'd been
 able to track the spam source to a company in Florida, and knew
 they'd used a server in China to blast their spam (carrying the
 fake langa.com address) out to the world. But within minutes,
 Suresh was able to dig deeper and tell me that the Chinese server
 was using a primitive and unprotected mailing program that shipped
 as part of the Solaris OS.

 Suresh's helpful email prompted me to take a look at all that CAUCE
 is up to now--- and it's a lot.

 They've collected almost 2 million examples of spammail, for
 instance; these are put in a database that webmasters and ISPs can
 use to know which domains send lots of spam: Mail from these
 domains can be blocked or filtered.

 They also offer an end-user oriented service called the "Spam
 Recycling Center." It's a site with anti-spam tips; a link that
 lets you forward your spammail to the appropriate federal
 authorities; download a free anti-spam filter; sign an anti-spam
 petition, and more. (Weirdly: They even have a "turn your spam into
 steak" program where you can order Omaha steaks for 40% off the
 list price. 8-) I'm not making this up!)

 The Spam Recycling Center is at
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 The organization's main page is at
  http://www.cauce.org/

 Join today!


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[CTRL] Canadian Scientist Hopes Y2K Will Shut Down Planet

1999-12-21 Thread DIG alfred webre

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Tuesday December 21 11:35 AM ET

Canadian Scientist Hopes Y2K Will Shut Down Planet

By Leah Eichler

TORONTO (Reuters) - A little Y2K chaos would not be such a bad thing, or so
says David Suzuki, a respected Canadian
geneticist, broadcaster and environmentalist.

``I hope there is a major glitch. It might give Mother Earth a rest,'' the
63-year-old host of CBC-TV's ``The Nature of Things,''
broadcast in more than 50 countries, told Reuters.

``I think it would be wonderful if things collapsed for a few days. Chaos
would happen ... but it would be an amazing
opportunity for people to really start thinking about things -- and a global
collapse would really make people think.''

Even if Y2K goes gently into the night, Suzuki believes the time is ripe for
people to start paying closer attention to the
environment. And if interest in his new book, which has hit Canadian
bestseller lists, is an indication, he may be right.

``At the end of every century people go nuts. The millennium is even a bigger
deal. My message in my book is that this is a
moment in time when we can reflect on where we are and where we're going,''
the Vancouver-based environmentalist said.

Where we are is a dismal place, according to Suzuki and his book ``From Naked
Ape to Superspecies,'' written with Holly
Dressel. ``Water is polluted, the air is polluted, soil is polluted. We've
essentially trashed the globe and I don't think there's any
question that the major challenge facing us in the coming years is what are
we going to do about it,'' he said.

DOOMSDAY PROPHET?

Although seen by many as a doomsday prophet, Suzuki insists that not only he
and groups such as Greenpeace are sounding
the death knell of environmental Armageddon -- scientists are too.

``From Naked Ape to Superspecies'' refers to a document, ''World Scientists
Warning to Humanity,'' signed in 1992 by more
that 1,600 senior scientists from around the world, including more than half
of all living Nobel Prizewinners.

The document stated that, as of 1992, humans have as little as 10 years to
avoid an ecological catastrophe. Since then, Suzuki
says, the destruction has accelerated.

``It is crystal clear from what scientists are saying that we have undermined
the underpinnings of life on Earth; we have added
30 percent more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, which set in motion
enormous changes in climate,'' he said.

``We've trashed 78 percent of the world's forests and the remaining 22
percent are found in three countries: Brazil, Canada and
Russia. And we're going to decide the fate of the remaining big forests in
the next 15 years.''

But are people heeding the warning signs? Suzuki believes so. He quotes a
recent poll that showed one of the issues people are
most concerned about today is the health of their children, based on the
quality of air, water and food.

``In Canada, one out of every five children has asthma. The asthma rate is
skyrocketing, as are lymphoma, breast cancer and
prostate cancer in spite of billions of dollars spent on medical research.
Why? Because we poison the very things that we
depend on for survival,'' Suzuki insisted.

Much of his criticism is directed at his own country, which does not warn
citizens of genetically modified foods.

``The Europeans are saying, 'If you want to find out if GMOs are dangerous
just watch Canada. They're doing the
experimenting for us. And I think that you don't put people in an experiment
unless they have been told and ask for our
permission. We haven't been told or asked. We're guinea pigs.''

ORGY OF CONSUMPTION

Suzuki also takes issue with the fact that Canada is the only industrialized
country in the world that does not support public
transit. ``If every human being wanted to live like we do in Toronto, we'd
need five more planets,'' he said. ``So there is no way
our lifestyle can be enjoyed by everybody on Earth, but everybody wants to be
like us.''

But all is not lost. Suzuki believes humans can have an immediate impact on
the environment by limiting consumption.

``We (in industrialized countries) now consume 20 times as much as every
person in China and 100 times as much as a person
in Bangladesh. The Wal-Marts, the Home Depots ... the megastores. It's
everything,'' he said.

``We are in an orgy of consumption. We very often point to the developing
world and say they have a population problem ...
but we are the ones overpopulating because we are overconsuming and all the
Indians, Brazilians and Chinese want to be like
us. And we keep saying, we gotta have more, so we can't tell them no, you
can't, you shouldn't, have as much as we have.''

Consumer culture affects not only the environment but the quality of life,
Suzuki says.

According to Seattle-based New Road Map Foundation, the average American
spends six to eight hours a week shopping and
40 minutes playing with his or her children.

``When you're 85 years old and dying, and you're thinking back on the things
that fill you with 

[CTRL] Red Dawn

1999-12-21 Thread Bill Richer

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"Red Dawn"--a potenial reality or just an action movie? The Pollyannas in
this country will laugh and say it could NEVER happen. I say there is every
probability it WILL happen, thanks to the traitor in the White House.

For almost 30 years, I have said China, Russia and North Korea would become
allied eventually--then attack us when we are the weakest, as we are now--the
weakest since just prior to Pearl Harbor.

Many will claim Clinton's sell-out of America has been motivatedby his
insatiable love of power. That is only part of the answer. Clinton is a true
globalist at heart and a totalitarian one at that. He knows that what he
hopes to achieve can only be accomplished if America is first weakened--then
destroyed, hence the scuttling of our military and an aggressive gun control
agenda aimed at the eventual systematic destruction of the gun culture in
America. His inroads on the Constitution and the Bill of Rights are
legion--possibly irreparable at this point. Read the words of our enemies
   below first. Then read what Col. Stanislav Lunev and Christopher
Ruddy have to say. Ruddy's article is particularly shocking. It is
   a multi-parter with all links from the first
page in sequence. Take time to read it in its entirety. [  A
HREF="http://antipas.org/news/russia/russia_china_p1.html"Christadelphians,
Antipas - Prophecy In The News -- Russia and China Prepare For War: Part 1/A

http://antipas.org/news/russia/russia_china_p1.html ] Other eye-opening
articles by J.R. Nyquist,  Charles Smith and many other great commentators
may be found in the WorldNetDaily archives at www.worldnetdaily.com. For
detailed info you won't get from traidional media, spend some time at  A
HREF="http://afpc.org/"American Foreign Policy Council/A
[http://afpc.org/].

Lynell



"We will spit in their face [i.e., the faces of the Western capitalist
leaders] and they will call it dew." -- Lenin

"We will sell the Western businessmen the rope with which we will hang them."
-- Lenin

"The capitalists of the world and their governments, in the pursuit of the
conquest of the Soviet market, will close their eyes to the indicated higher
reality, and thus will turn into deaf, mute, blind men. They will extend
credits in giving us the materials and technology we lack. They will restore
our military industry, indispensible for our future victorious attacks on our
suppliers. In other words, they will labor for the preparation for their own
suicide." -- Lenin

"War to the hilt between communism and capitalism is inevitable. Today, of
course, we are not strong enough to attack. Our time will come in thirty to
forty years. To win, we shall need the element of surprise. The bourgeoisie
... will have to put to sleep. So we shall begin by launching the most
spectacular peace movement on record. There will be electrifying overtures
and unheard of concessions. The capitalist countries, stupid and decadent,
will rejoice to cooperate in their own destruction. They will leap at another
chance to be friends. As soon as their guard is down, we will smash them with
our clenched fist." -- Dimitri Manuilski of the Lenin School for Political
Warfare

"Comrades, do not be concerned about all you hear about glasnost and
perestroika and democracy in the coming years. These are primarily for
outward consumption. There will be no significant internal change within the
Soviet Union other than for cosmetic purposes. Our purpose is to disarm the
Americans and let them fall asleep. We want to accomplish three things: One,
we want the Americans to withdraw conventional forces from Europe. Two, we
want them to withdraw nuclear forces from Europe. Three, we want the
Americans to stop proceeding with the Strategic Defense Initiative." --
Mikhail Gorbachev in a speech to the Soviet Politburo, November 1987

"Our aim is to gain control of the two great treasure houses on which the
West depends: The energy treasure house of the Persian Gulf and minerals
treasure house of central and southern Africa, and then we will dictate the
terms of surrender to the United States and to the West." -- Leonid Brezhnev,
1973

"We at the executive level here were active in either the OSS, the State
Department, or the European Economic Administration. During those times, and
without exception, we operated under directions issued by the White House. We
are continuing to be guided by just such directives, the substance of which
were to the effect that we should make every effort to so alter life in the
United States as to make possible a comfortable merger with the Soviet
Union." -- H. Rowan Gaither, President of the Ford Foundation, 1953

"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was
planned that way." -- Franklin D. Roosevelt

"There also exists another alliance -- at first 

[CTRL] AF News 22 Dec 99

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992270.  Air Force leaders discuss Allied Force lessons learned

by Maj. Steve Michael
Air Force Doctrine Center

MAXWELL AIR FORCE BASE, Ala. (AFPN) --Senior Air Force leaders met here
recently to examine aerospace power doctrine issues arising from Operation
Allied Force, the recent air campaign in Kosovo, Yugoslavia.

Attendees included Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. Michael Ryan, the
commanders of all nine Air Force major commands, Air Staff officials and Air
Force representatives from commands that were engaged in Allied Force.  The
summit itself consisted of briefings and discussion sessions that covered
planning and employment activities from the Joint Staff level at the
Pentagon through the numbered Air Force level in theater, and the roles air
mobility and space operations played in supporting Allied Force.

"General Ryan wanted to bring together the Air Force leadership to take a
look at the application of our basic and operational doctrine principles
during Allied Force," said Lt. Col. Bob Poynor, Air Force Doctrine Center's
lead action officer for the summit.  "The operation gave us a perfect
opportunity to see if we organized and employed our forces in a manner
consistent with our doctrine, and really practiced the principles and
capabilities that we believe make aerospace power function most effectively
in a conflict."

Since the end of the Cold War, history has shown that the Air Force has been
increasingly called upon to play a prominent role in overseas contingency
operations.  Operation Desert Storm was an early example, and Allied Force
-- this year's aerospace power-dominated operation that forced the Serbian
army to withdraw from Kosovo -- provided further proof of air power's
capabilities to carry out the policies of the National Command Authorities.

"The fact that the senior Air Force leadership gathered to focus their
efforts on evaluating an air operation from the perspective of war fighting
doctrine makes this one of the most unique meetings in the history of the
Air Force," said Maj. Gen. Timothy Kinnan, AFDC commander.  "It was fitting
that the chief of staff called us together here at Maxwell, the site of the
Air Corps Tactical School, where many of the Air Force's founding fathers
first debated the best uses of air power in combat."

The joint services' perspective on Allied Force was discussed in
presentations made by Maj. Gen. Charles Wald, the Joint Staff vice director
for strategic plans and policy, and Maj. Gen. Ronald Keys, U.S. European
Command director of operations.

Gen. John Jumper, U.S. Air Forces in Europe and Allied Air Forces Central
Europe commander presented a briefing that discussed the doctrinal basis for
the type of operation conducted in Kosovo and the effectiveness of existing
Air Force command and staff structures.

Gen. Charles Robertson Jr., commander in chief of U.S. Transportation
Command and Air Mobility Command, discussed airlift and mobility support for
the Kosovo operation.  And, Maj. Gen. Robert Hinson, 14th Air Force
commander, discussed space operations support for Allied Force.

Allied Force was the first major Air Force operation, since AFDC was
established, to develop service doctrine in 1997.  This air-dominated
campaign provided a case study for the Air Force to review the war fighting
capabilities and principles that are written in the service's 33 doctrine
documents.  The discussions are part of a larger effort by the Air Force and
Department of Defense to review Operation Allied Force and glean lessons
learned to improve future operations.  (Courtesy of Air Education and
Training Command News Service)


992272.  Air Force releases information on C-130 crash in Kuwait

SCOTT AIR FORCE BASE, ILL. (AFPN) --The Air Force released information Dec.
20 about the ongoing investigation into the 9th Expeditionary Airlift
Squadron C-130E aircraft accident that occurred at Ahmed Al Jaber Air Base,
Kuwait, at 2:06 a.m., local time Dec. 10.

In response to the emergency landing of a C-130 at Kuwait International
Airport, the Air Force has convened a safety investigation board and an
accident investigation board to investigate the accident that resulted in
the deaths of three airmen and the injury of 17 others.  Both boards have
arrived in Kuwait City and begun their investigations.

Initial investigations have determined the C-130 arrived at Ali Al Salem Air
Base Dec. 3.  The aircraft and crew, permanently assigned to the 61st
Airlift Squadron, 463rd Airlift Group, Little Rock Air Force Base, Ark.,
arrived in Kuwait for a 90-day rotation as part of the ongoing Operation
Southern Watch mission in support of UN resolutions and to help enforce UN
sanctions of Iraq.  At the time of the accident, the weather in the area was
clear at altitude with restricted visibility on the surface.

The crew was scheduled to fly a rotator mission on the night of the 

Re: [CTRL] [EWAR] New Worm virus - from CTRL List

1999-12-21 Thread Kris Millegan

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In a message dated 12/21/99 3:54:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Watch your Off-List e-mail messages for the following .EXE

 attachments, comprising the "W32.NewApt.Worm" worm virus.

 I received two of them recently, from the same virus brain:

 Bill, I am confused, I do not see the attachment in the CTRL archives and
you yourself sent the email on the topic from Orbit.

Did someone send you something in response, personally?

Om
k

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[CTRL] Two-thirds of Americans Want New Impeachment Review

1999-12-21 Thread Bill Richer

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Poll: Two-thirds of Americans Want New Impeachment Review
NewsMax.com
December 21, 1999

NEW YORK—A NewsMax.com/Zogby International poll finds that two-thirds of
Americans want Congress to consider a second round of impeachment proceedings
against Bill Clinton for possibly swapping United States military secrets to
China in exchange for campaign cash.
Americans overwhelmingly indicated they are seriously concerned that
President Clinton may have authorized the sale and transfer of nuclear and
ballistic missile technology to China. The national survey of 1,005
registered voters was conducted by NewsMax.com/Zogby last week.

The NewsMax.com/Zogby poll comes on the heels of a CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll
released last week that found that 50 percent of Americans now approve of
Congress’ impeachment of Clinton in December of 1998 after the Monica
Lewinsky scandal.

Americans apparently take the China allegations more seriously.

Since 1996, federal law enforcement and congressional sources have claimed
that large amounts of money — some estimates place the amount as high as $10
million — were funneled from Chinese government sources to help the
Democratic National Committee fund Bill Clinton’s re-election campaign in
1996.

Nearly 10 percent of Americans surveyed said the allegations were serious
enough that Congress should immediately convene impeachment hearings against
the President.

Another 56 percent of Americans said Congress should begin a preliminary
investigation to decide if impeachment is warranted.

In 1998, the House of Representatives impeached the President. He avoided
removal from office when the Senate decided not to convict him after a brief
trial in 1999.

Support for a fresh look at a possible Chinagate impeachment inquiry,
however, enjoys broad support from Democrats, Republicans and Independent
voters. African-American voters, considered among the president’s staunchest
supporters, also backed the popular impeachment examination by 63 percent.

Concerns about the President’s treatment of China and military transfers to
the communist country have simmered for several years.

In 1996, the New York Times reported that U.S. defense contractors Hughes
Electronics and Loral Space  Communications assisted China in developing and
improving the launch capabilities of their ballistic missiles. After a
grand-jury investigation was convened to investigate Loral’s transfer of
classified technology to China, President Clinton moved to authorize the
transfer of such technology.

Since 1993, the chairman of Loral, Bernard Schwartz, donated more than $1
million to the DNC, making Schwartz the committee’s largest donor.

The Clinton administration has also moved to issue more than 350 waivers,
largely beginning in 1996, to transfer American supercomputers to China.
Previous to Clinton’s authorizations, China had received few clearances
because the computers could be used to develop advanced nuclear weaponry.

Recently, ABC News reported that the Clinton administration authorized the
sale of an ultra-high-speed IBM computer the network claimed would enable
China to develop its nuclear-carrying ballistic missiles.

President Clinton has made technology transfers of previously classified
technology a priority. Early in Clinton’s first term, administration
officials changed the screening process for technology transfers, moving the
approval process away from the State and Defense Departments to the Commerce
Department. The move was said to have increased the flow of technology
transfers to China.

Chinagate figure John Huang, who had been a major Clinton fund-raiser, also
served in the Commerce Department. Congressional investigators believed Huang
served as an agent of China, using ties through his previous employer, the
Riady family of Indonesia.

NEWSMAX.COM/ZOGBY POLL

Question: Allegations have risen that Bill Clinton traded U.S. nuclear and
ballistic missile technology to the Chinese for campaign contributions.
Should Congress convene impeachment hearings against President Bill Clinton
over these allegations or should there be a preliminary investigation to see
if there is a reason to start impeachment proceedings, or should Congress do
nothing? Congress should:

1. Convene impeachment proceedings — 10 percent

2. Begin a preliminary investigation for impeachment — 56 percent

3. Do nothing — 30 percent

4. Not sure — 4 percent.










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[CTRL] Russian destroyer to beef up navy

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Tuesday, December 21, 1999

Russian destroyer to beef up navy
ASSOCIATED PRESS in Moscow


--
--
Updated at 1.50pm:
The first of two powerful destroyers ordered from Russia by the PRC navy is
to be delivered on Saturday.
The ITAR-Tass news agency, citing an unspecified military-industrial source,
said the ship, a model of the ''Sovremenny'' class, is to be turned over to
the Chinese navy at the St Petersburg shipyard where it was built.

The Chinese sailors will then pilot the ship to its base, the report said.

China in 1997 signed an order for the two destroyers in one of the largest
arms deals for Russia in recent years. The amount of the contract was not
made public, but reports from China estimated it at about US$1 billion
(HK$7.6 billion).

Chinese orders have become a boon for Russia's struggling defence industries.

The report also said two shipments of Moskit supersonic anti-ship missiles
that can be used on the destroyers will be delivered to the PRC next year.




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Re: [CTRL] Kudos to Kris: High Times article

1999-12-21 Thread Kris Millegan

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In a message dated 12/21/99 9:54:12 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

In the '70s and '80s, the ONLY mass-media outlets that were able to
publish articles about government conspiracies and cover-ups were
"PORNO" magazines such as Genesis, Penthouse, and Larry Flynt's Hustler


Does anyone know a a place where one can get old articles from these
mags, WITHOUT the sexually explicit pictures  descriptions? Thanks in
advance.

 You might check with Prevailing Winds. I don't have their web address handy
here, but a search should bring it up.
Om
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[CTRL] GOP senator vows to block Clinton picks

1999-12-21 Thread Bill Richer

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GOP senator vows to block Clinton picks
By Dave Boyer
THE WASHINGTON TIMES


A Republican senator said yesterday he will block all of President Clinton’s
judicial nominees next year because Mr. Clinton on Friday quietly broke his
written promise to notify the Senate before making recess appointments.

A Republican senator said yesterday he will block all of President Clinton’s
judicial nominees next year because Mr. Clinton on Friday quietly broke his
written promise to notify the Senate before making recess appointments.
 The president’s reappointment of Sarah Fox, a labor-friendly member of
the National Labor Relations Board, came without the required notice before
the Senate left town, said Sen. James M. Inhofe, Oklahoma Republican.
 “The president has broken his word — yet again — and confirmed the deep
and unfortunate breakdown in trust which exists between the Clinton-Gore
administration and the Congress,” Mr. Inhofe said.
 “I will do exactly what I said I would do if the president deliberately
violated our agreement,” he said. “I will place a ‘hold’ on every judicial
nominee which reaches the Senate calendar for the remainder of the Clinton
presidency.”
 A White House spokesman, Jake Siewert, insisted last night that the
administration did “discuss” Miss Fox’s nomination with Senate Majority
Leader Trent Lott, Mississippi Republican.
 “We communicated with the majority leader’s office on this,” Mr.
Siewert said.
 A spokesman for Mr. Lott, John Czwartacki, said last night that the
White House “did inform us” about the pending recess appointment of Miss Fox
on a list other than the one to which Mr. Inhofe referred.
 But he said Mr. Inhofe still has a right to object to the appointment.
 “If Senator Inhofe chooses to exercise his right and wishes to place a
hold, Senator Lott will hear and honor that hold,” Mr. Czwartacki said.
 The two Republican senators “both understand where the other one is” on
the matter, Mr. Czwartacki said.
 Mr. Inhofe secured the written pledge from Mr. Clinton this summer after
the president angered senators with recess appointments of James C. Hormel, a
homosexual, to be ambassador to Luxembourg, and of Bill Lann Lee to be
assistant attorney general in charge of civil rights.
 After Mr. Inhofe threatened to block further Clinton nominations, the
president on June 15 wrote to Mr. Lott: “My administration has made it a
practice to notify Senate leaders in advance of our intentions in this
regard, and this precedent will continue to be observed.”
 But Miss Fox’s name was not on a list of 13 contemplated appointments
that Mr. Clinton submitted to the Senate last month, Mr. Inhofe said.
 A Senate Republican aide said Miss Fox is “considered extremely
liberal” and probably would have run into “considerable opposition” in the
Senate if Mr. Clinton had tried to reappoint her through the normal process.
 Asked why Miss Fox was not on the list cited by Mr. Inhofe, Mr. Siewert
reasserted that the Republican leadership was informed of the president’s
desire to reappoint her.
 “I can’t account for his list,” he said of Mr. Inhofe.
 Mr. Inhofe said in a statement that he “has not yet had time to contact
any of his colleagues” on the matter.
 In September, Miss Fox ruled with the NLRB majority that unions can
charge dissenting workers for the cost of conscripting new members. The
ruling runs counter to Supreme Court precedent, which held that unions could
not compel nonmembers to subsidize union politics with which they disagreed.
 Under a recess appointment, the nominee can serve up to one year without
any Senate action. That would take Miss Fox virtually up to the last days of
the Clinton administration.
 Stan Greer, a spokesman for the National Right to Work Legal Defense
Foundation in Springfield, said Miss Fox has shown a “real zeal” to go
beyond the boundaries of the National Labor Relations Act in favor of big
labor in her rulings.
 “We do think it would have been quite difficult” for her to be
confirmed again by the Senate, Mr. Greer said.
 Another foundation member has accused Miss Fox of personally blocking 88
percent of cases awaiting NLRB rulings over whether dissenting workers may be
charged for activities unrelated to collective bargaining, such as partisan
politics.
 Mr. Inhofe said he is not objecting to Miss Fox’s political persuasion
but to the president violating “the principle of cooperation and executive
branch respect for the Senate’s proper role on the confirmation process.”
 “Considering the lame-duck status of the Clinton presidency, I believe
it is now appropriate to defer these important life-term judicial
appointments to the next president,” Mr. Inhofe said in a statement.
 

[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Overview

1999-12-21 Thread Kris Millegan





From: "Catherine Austin Fitts" [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Earth Rising ? The Revolution:
Toward a Thousand Years of Peace

ISBN: 1-890693-43-X   5.5"x8.5" Softcover, $17.95 List, 300 pages

By Dr. Nick Begich and James Roderick

Earth Rising ? The Revolution: Toward a Thousand Years of Peace is about
technology and its impact on humanity. This book is about the basis of
freedom, human dignity, sovereign individuality and self-determination. The
material will be shocking to all. This is an exposé on technological
advances which may reshape the destiny of mankind in the next millennium.
This book covers a number of separate areas with extensive documentation
from government, academic and major media reports including:

o The Revolution in Military Affairs and its impact on freedom.

o Mind control and the manipulation of human health through the use of
drugs, electromagnetic weapons and other means.

o Non-lethal weapons and their use and impact on people.

o Environmental and weather control.

o New technologies which will virtually eliminate privacy from the world
scene.

o Militarization of law enforcement around the country.

o The HAARP story is updated, showing additional evidence of the military's
plans to manipulate the environment.

The book concludes with solutions that could be initiated in the next few
years which could change the implications of these technologies from
negative to positive. This book carries a message about our humanity and our
reach toward higher purposes.

We are spirit, energy, atoms, molecules, chemicals, cells, body organs and
components and then we are body. These new technologies attack the very
essence of who we are ? they attack the very foundation of our being by
wounding the human spirit.

The computer problems which have captured the attention of the world as we
leave this millennium have made us all question technology and its impact on
the world. We will not know the results for a few weeks of what the
transition means and it is not the subject of this book ? technology is the
subject. In each potential disaster there are even greater possibilities for
solutions which redeem the human spirit and will help propel us into the
next century.


This book is about those solutions.

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 Dr. Nick Begich is the eldest son of the late United States Congressman
from Alaska, Nick Begich Sr., and political activist Pegge Begich. He is
well known in Alaska for his own political activities. He was twice elected
President of both the Alaska Federation of Teachers and the Anchorage
Council of Education. He has been pursuing independent research in the
sciences and politics for most of his adult life. Begich received his
doctorate in traditional medicine from The Open International University for
Complementary Medicines in November, 1994.

He co-authored the book Angels Don't Play This HAARP; Advances in Tesla
Technology, and wrote Towards a New Alchemy: The Millennium Science. His
latest book Earth Rising ? The Revolution: Toward a Thousand Years of Peace
was co-authored with James Roderick in December, 1999. He is also the editor
of Earthpulse Flashpoints, a continuing new-science book series. Begich has
published articles in science, politics and education and is a well known
lecturer, having presented throughout the United States and in nineteen
countries. He has been featured as a guest on thousands of radio broadcasts
reporting on his research activities including new technologies, health and
earth science related issues. He has also appeared on dozens of television
documentaries and other programs throughout the world including BBC-TV,
CBC-TV, TeleMundo, and others.

Begich has served as an expert witness and speaker before the European
Parliament. He has spoken on various issues for groups representing citizen
concerns, statesmen and elected officials, scientists and others. He is the
publisher and co-owner of Earthpulse Press and is also under contract as
Tribal Administrator for the Chickaloon Village Council, a federally
recognized American Indian Tribe of the Athabascan Indian Nation.

Dr. Begich is married to Shelah Begich-Slade and has five children. He
resides just north of Anchorage in the community of Eagle River, Alaska,
USA.


James Roderick is a 30-year resident of Alaska, working variously as a
fisherman, gold-miner and trapper. His investigations into military toxics
in Alaska led to stories in the press about chemical weapons disposal in
Alaska's waters, nuclear power plant contamination in central Alaska and the
military's illegal  testing of Alaska natives and Eskimos with radioactive
Iodine. His investigations continue.


Table Of Contents


Dedication..
..1

Prologue Earth Rising ? 

[CTRL] Re-Formed IRS

1999-12-21 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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WSWS : News  Analysis : North America
"Reform" of US tax agency has led to decline in audits of the wealthy
By Jerry White
21 December 1999
Back to screen version

The results of last year's political and media campaign against the Internal
Revenue Service (IRS), ostensibly waged to protect the average tax-payer
against government abuse, provides an object lesson of the cynicism of American
politics.

For weeks on end, beginning in the spring of 1998, Congressional Republicans
like Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott and House Majority Leader Dick Armey
issued ringing denunciations of the IRS' persecution of small businessmen,
farmers and ordinary workers, and demanded legislation to rein in the federal
agency. The press and television networks provided almost daily coverage of IRS
abuse and uncritically highlighted populist-sounding speeches by politicians
who are notorious for their slavish defense of corporate interests.

When pollsters reported growing support for IRS reform, the Clinton
administration and the Democratic Party jumped on the bandwagon and backed the
Internal Revenue Service Restructuring and Reform Act. The law was passed
overwhelmingly by both houses of Congress and signed into law by President
Clinton in July 1998.

Some 16 months later, the real motivation behind the “reform” campaign has
become clear. The American tax system has been skewed even more to favor the
rich at the expense of working and poor people.

According to a recent report in the New York Times, since the passage of the
law the IRS has sharply reduced audits of wealthy individuals and large
corporations. Instead the agency has shifted its focus to investigating low-
income families applying for the Earned Income Tax Credit, and cracking down on
those, mostly the working poor and unemployed, who fail to file tax returns.

The IRS has reassigned employees trained to audit companies and wealthy
individuals to work counters at walk-in centers, answer telephones around the
clock and resolve tax disputes of estranged couples. IRS agents, interviewed by
the Times, said that these changes have had the effect of shifting the target
of audits to people who do not have the benefit of professional advisers or
political connections.

IRS employees said their managers had pressed them to overlook complex issues
and close audits quickly. This has meant virtually dropping any attempt to
collect taxes from wealthy violators who conceal income from capital gains,
hidden business interests and other sources.

Among individuals with a gross income of $100,000 or more, less than 1 in 150
returns will be audited this year, compared to 1 in 33 in 1992. The percentage
of corporate returns to be audited is expected to fall to just above 1 percent
for the current fiscal year, as compared to just under 3 percent in 1992.
Meanwhile, the number of returns reporting an income of $1 million or more has
risen sharply over the past few years, from 87,000 in 1995 to 142,500 in 1997.

An IRS agent in New York told the Times, “Please don't call us tax collectors
in the newspaper. We don't collect taxes anymore. We aren't allowed to.”
Another revenue agent in Nashville, Tennessee said anyone there could get a tax
case resolved favorably if the taxpayer had enough influence to get a Senator
or Congressman to complain to the IRS.

In April of 1998 the Senate Finance Committee, chaired by Senator William Roth
Jr., the principal sponsor of the IRS overhaul legislation, held a widely
publicized hearing which portrayed the IRS as an out-of-control agency. The
testimony, some of which was later discredited, included horror stories from
businessmen who claimed they had been arrested by armed IRS agents, and
confessions from former IRS employees who said they had falsified evidence to
extract more money from taxpayers.

Clinton and the Democratic leadership reversed their initial opposition and
joined the “reform” campaign, with Clinton declaring, “Like most Americans I
was outraged by the stories of our citizens harassed and humiliated by what
seemed to be an unaccountable, downright tone-deaf agency.”

The entire stage-managed affair was given full credence by the media, which
reported a groundswell of popular support for reform of, in the words of one
newspaper, “the most hated government agency in America.”

The IRS is an arm of the capitalist state. It often abuses small businesses and
working class families. But the bipartisan campaign to “reform” the IRS, as the
results have demonstrated, was not aimed at ending the harassment of working
people, but rather at shifting the financial burden for public services and
military spending even further onto working-class and middle-class taxpayers.

Included in the 1998 legislation were additional tax breaks for the rich, as
well as the establishment of an IRS oversight board that would include
corporate executives. While Congress backed off from its original idea of
giving the 

Re: [CTRL] Zipped File-Report To Pres. And Congress Re:Terrorism and ...

1999-12-21 Thread William Shannon

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In a message dated 12/20/99 9:47:11 PM Central Standard Time,
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 better send
 it as text or you may be making a wasted effort.  Also, please refrain from
 using cute background colors and patterns as this makes reading difficult and
 I usually dump them, without reading. 

Uh, yeah well this "text" would exceed the lomits imposed on me by my e-mail
server, it's a huge file...and I certainly didn't use any "cute" colours or
patterns...
Otherwise, thanks a ton for your advice...
Bill

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[CTRL] Fwd: Paranormal Experiences

1999-12-21 Thread Kris Millegan





  (with graphics: http://Ian.Goddard.net/paranorm.htm)

  NEUROLOGICAL EXPLANATION FOR PARANORMAL EXPERIENCES

  (c) 12/21/99 Ian Williams Goddard

  Paranormal experiences that transcend the perceived
  confines of the body, such as out-of-body experiences,
  may be seen as evidence of the existence of a "spiritual
  body" that can exceed the confines of the physical body.
  The following, however, provides a simple neurological
  explanation for such paranormal experience.

  THE INTERNAL WORLD MODEL

  Looking at the computer screen before you, you assume
  the screen you're seeing is external to you. However,
  because all that you perceive is in fact data that have
  already entered the interior of your skull, what you
  perceive as external is a neurologically constructed
  model inside your brain of the real world outside your
  brain. (graphic: http://ian.goddard.net/paranorm.htm)

  You never perceive the external world directly, you
  only perceive second-hand "messages" sent via photons
  and sound waves that have already struck your sensory
  apparatus and sent information about the external world
  into your brain where it was processed into the three-
  dimensional model of the real world that you see. The
  things that you perceive as being the genuine articles
  "out there" are actually simulations of them inside
  your brain. (see: http://ian.goddard.net/paranorm.htm)

  Amazing as it seems, this means that what you think of
  as your body is actually a simulation body walking around
  your brain's model of the world! So long as your internal
  model is exact, you can interact with the real world
  without problem. However, if and when the accuracy of
  your internal world model is compromised, paranormal,
  insane, or unsober experience is the result.

  Because the perceived parameter of your body is a
  computational construct of your brain, it can be
  altered by abnormal brain activity. For example, the
  neurological program that places you, the observer, in
  one location in the model could just as well place you
  at any other location in the model, thereby creating
  an out-of-body experience. Or the location of your
  consciousness could appear to expand and engulf the
  entire world-model, resulting in a "cosmic consciousness"
  experience. Or, inside your brain's program, experiences
  like pain could be placed in a location outside your
  simulated body, such as in the perceived location an
  amputated leg used to be, resulting in a "phantom pain"
  apparently outside your body. In each example, only the
  parameters of a simulated body inside the brain are
  transcended, and thus the evidence of a spirit body
  disappears like a ghost.

  CONCLUSION: In comprehending the nature of out-of-body
  expereinces there's one thing we can know for sure: the
  fact that all observed data have already entered the
  skull of the observer leaves no room for doubt that the
  world you perceive including your perceived body is a
  simulation inside your brain of the real world outside
  your brain. The real world is thus never directly
  perceived. One explanation for out-of-body experiences
  is that the observer, or consciousness, moves outside
  the physical body via a spirit body. However, the physical
  evidence indicates that the spirit-body theory rests on
  the illusion that the observer's perceived body and
  environment are the real thing rather than a model inside
  the observer's brain, wherein, as a result of neurological
  anomalies, an observer can transcend the limits of his
  perceived body without actually transcending the limits
  of his real physical body.


Visit Ian Williams Goddard  --  http://Ian.Goddard.net

(+)  Something can come from nothing, if, and only if,  (-)
(-)  that something is equal to nothing ((-)+(+) = 0).  (+)

"[I]n any closed universe the  negative gravitational energy
 cancels the energy of matter exactly. The total energy, or
  equivalently the total mass, is precisely equal to zero."

- + - +  Dr. Alan Guth (The Inflationary Universe)  + - + -




Re: [CTRL] Kris: High Times article: Purchase Info

1999-12-21 Thread Kris Millegan

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In a message dated 12/21/99 10:52:03 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hi Kris:

Where do I buy a copy? Barnes and Noble or Borders? Thanks. Gavin.

 I have heard it is at Borders.  It will be off stands within the week.
Thanks.

Om
K

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Re: [CTRL] Tarpley

1999-12-21 Thread Linda Minor

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Try this one:
http://www.tarpley.net/

The old one should give you the new site.

Linda



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Date: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 5:06 PM
Subject: [CTRL] Tarpley


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I've been having trouble accessing Tarpley's homepage at:

http://www.radix.net/~tarpley/

Does Linda or anyone know if he changed servers,
or if his pages are mirrored elsewhere on the web?
[Maybe the server's just been down a lot lately,
and I've merely had bad luck when accessing it.]


Thanks,
philately

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Re: [CTRL] Kudos to Kris: High Times article

1999-12-21 Thread Linda Minor

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Copy of Prevailing Winds e-catalog:

http://www.silcom.com/~patrick/pwrprnts.htm


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Date: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Kudos to Kris: High Times article


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In a message dated 12/21/99 9:54:12 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

In the '70s and '80s, the ONLY mass-media outlets that were able to
publish articles about government conspiracies and cover-ups were
"PORNO" magazines such as Genesis, Penthouse, and Larry Flynt's Hustler


Does anyone know a a place where one can get old articles from these
mags, WITHOUT the sexually explicit pictures  descriptions? Thanks in
advance.

 You might check with Prevailing Winds. I don't have their web address
handy
here, but a search should bring it up.
Om
k

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Re: [CTRL] Kudos to Kris: High Times article

1999-12-21 Thread pmeares

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Kris Millegan wrote:

  You might check with Prevailing Winds. I don't have their web address  handy here, 
but a search should bring it up.

I have the URL bookmarked:

The Center for the Preservation of Modern History
http://www.prevailingwinds.org/index02.htm

Prevailing Winds Magazine is a journal of current events, politics,
history, and health. We serve the public by providing hard to access
information which effects us on a daily basis.

CURRENT ISSUE
http://www.prevailingwinds.org/mags/pwrmag5.html

CATALOG
http://www.prevailingwinds.org/pwrcat.htm


--
PS, I live out in the sticks and can't get my hand on High Times either.
Please consider posting your article to the list when you get the chance
(especially after it goes of the shelves later this week), there are *lots*
of us on your list who are interesting in reading it.

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[CTRL] End Of The Line For 'Free Press'

1999-12-21 Thread Bill Richer

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WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Peace at any cost is a prelude to war!

End Of The Line For 'Free Press'
--3 Networks Combine News Services


The news departments of Fox, ABC and CBS are going to merge into one
single news "cooperative," with the faceless, Orwellian name of "Network
News Service".

Well isn't THAT just peachy. I mean REALLY. This is just about the most
blatant example yet of the utter corruption and devolution of the major
news media organizations into a monolithic, spineless mouthpiece for the
"state".

How much easier it is to control the "news" (what's that again?) a large
percentage of Americans will hear, if the raw information gathered from
all three networks funnels into only one "processing" facility, where
any inconsistencies with the official sanctioned versions of events can
be discreetly expunged and smoothed out, before the polished,
"synthesized" information is dispersed back to the member organizations
for publication/broadcast.

And since all THREE networks involved in this "deal" will be spewing and
regurgitating the exact same sanitized, edited, adulterated, denatured
and spin-doctored version of reality, why bother watching ANY of them?

With regard to these three major news outlets it's bye-bye, and so
long... to any semblance of journalistic integrity and to the final
vestiges of supposedly fundamentally inviolable "free press." Killed
from within, no less, with nary a shot having been fired...  at least in
this case.

In a sheer masterpiece of "big lie" doubletalk, CBS News president
Andrew Heyward said the new system "enables each network... to devote
more resources to its own coverage ... which will ultimately
differentiate one station... from its competitors." Right. What WILL
occur is the exact OPPOSITE, obviously.

Interestingly, and perhaps fortunately, NBC was not approached with the
"offer" as were the other three networks, a fact called "curious" by an
NBC spokeswoman. Hey, take it as a compliment, NBC! Maybe NBC isn't yet
infiltrated sufficiently with sellouts and pushovers.

Although many may argue that the corruption of the press was nearly
complete already, in our view this merger of three separate national
news departments is an irrefutable indication of just how far the
deterioration and disintegration has progressed.


NewsHawk® Inc.

-- -- -- -- -- -- -- --

http://www.abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap19991220_1325.html

WIRE:12/20/1999 19:22:00 ET
Networks announce news cooperative



NEW YORK (AP) _ Three networks are joining their news services into a
single domestic news cooperative, they announced Monday. Network News
Service will consist of ABC NewsOne, CBS Newspath and Fox News Edge.

NNS will collect video from the affiliates of all three news services,
as well as the three network's newsgathering units and other sources,
and supply this "raw video" back to ABC NewsOne, CBS Newspath and Fox
News Edge.

Each network's news service will select from all of that day's NNS
material for inclusion in its regular feeds to affiliates. Meanwhile,
the three services will continue to operate as separate competing entities.

NBC is not part of the arrangement. "We think it's curious that we were
not included in these discussions," said NBC spokeswoman Alex Constantinople.

"NNS will be particularly important to breaking news coverage," said
Roger Ailes, Fox News chairman. "It will dramatically enhance the
ability of each network news service to cover breaking stories by
offering more than one source of video."

CBS News president Andrew Heyward added that the new arrangement
"enables each network news service to devote more resources to its own
coverage ... which will ultimately differentiate one station or one
service from its competitors."

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[CTRL] [2] Drugs, the U.S., and Khun Sa

1999-12-21 Thread Kris Millegan

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an excerpt from:
Drugs, the U.S., and Khun Sa
Francis W. Belanger©1989
Editions Duang Kamol
Siam Square,
Bangkok, Thailand
ISBN 974-210-4808
146 pps. – First Edition – Out-of-print
--[2]--

KHUN SA, THE HEROIN KING

THE EARLY YEARS

The major producer of heroin in the Far East today is Khun Sa, an enigmatic
character who makes a fortune through his trade in narcotics and other
contraband. There are several other 'opium: warlords' in the Golden
Triangle—the Laotian leader, Kaysone Phomvihane; a Thai, Lao Su; a Burmese,
Kom Jerng—but Khun Sa is the man who during an interview at his fortress in
Burma a short time ago arrogantly and publicly announced his plan to step up
opium production in the Golden Triangle to 1200 tons a year.

Khun Sa, 54, is a likable man, growing old gracefully, and quick to smile.
Like many of the people in the Burma-Thailand-Laos area, he is the product of
a mixed marriage, of mixed Shan and Haw Chinese blood; he was born in 1933
(or 1934) in Loi Maw in the Mong Yai State and claims maternal descent from a
local sawbwa. Though his given name is Chang Chi-fu, he adopted the pseudonym
'Khun Sa', khun meaning "Lord" and' "Sa" being his stepfather's name, his
mother having remarried a' Shan prince. He had gained military experience
with the KMT, then became leader of his own army of several hundred men which
he transformed into a KKY unit.

The, young swashbuckler settled around the towns of Tang Yang and Ving Ngun
close to the Wa States, an area renown for its bountiful opium production,
and was soon sending large caravans of opium into Thailand and Laos. This led
to clashes with KMT troops, who until then had controlled 90 percent of
exports from Burma, thus sparking an 'Opium War'. The conflict ended in a
formal battle at Ban Khwan in Laos, involving Khun Sa's troops, KMT troops,
and Laotian troops. Khun Sa was defeated.

With his subsequent arrest by Burmese authorities, on charges of corruption
and drug trafficking, at Taunggyi in 1969, Khun Sa was thought to have been
eliminated from the Golden Triangle. However, his army still controlled the
opium-producing districts in the Lashio region, while Khun Sa languished in a
Mandalay prison where for months, at least according to his own word, he
underwent torture. In 1973, one of his lieutenants, Chang Tze Chuang
(sometimes referred to as Chan Shu-chin), abducted two Russian doctors
working at the Taunggyi hospital and ultimately exchanged them for his
imprisoned leader

Telling this story, Khun Sa's usually amiable face loses its smile and turns
hard. "I've never forgotten what they did to me," he said, rubbing his groin.
"I promised then that I'd make them pay somehow."

After five years in jail, Khun Sa reassembled his army of about 2,000
men, which the Shan State army (SSA) had dubbed the Shan United Army (SUA),
hoping to improve the political image of Khun Sa's brigands. Khun Sa quickly
became deeply involved in the illegal drug trade and, with his subordinate
groups, soon controlled 70 percent of the heroin production to come from the
Golden Triangle refineries. His influence grew with his power and had soon
spread to Thai territory. A sector of the SUA settled in the Shan village of
Ban Hin Taek, eight kilometers from the Burmese frontier, which they used as
a drug distribution point. Khun Sa claimed to have entered the narcotics
trade as the only means of financing his struggle for Shan autonomy. However,
cynics believed-and continue to believe- his motives were purely avaricious.

OTHER SHAN WARLORDS

There are several Shan warlords, the one most closely approaching the stature
of Khun Sa being Lo Hsin Han, who was born in Yunnan and emigrated to the
Shan States where he became chief of staff of Jimmy Yang's army of 3,000 men.

General Yang, a member of a noble Kokang family, withdrew to Thailand after
fighting the Burmese government for three years. The Yang family administered
Kokang like a private fief and had organized armed groups at the beginning of
1950. One of the first bandit groups was headed by Jimmy's sister, Olive
Yang. Jimmy was in charge of the Kokang Force, which joined the Shan State
Independence Army (SSIA) in 1964 and then broke away to cooperate with the
KMT. The SSIA was formed after Shan leaders called on a guerilla expert, Saw
Yan Da, from the Tai (Dai) community in Yunnan, to set up a clandestine army.
He adopted the name 'Sao Noi' and recruited high school students from
Mandalay and Rangoon, forming the rebel group 'Nom Suk Han' on May 21, 1958.
He operated in the mountains to the west of Lashio, but this group rapidly
split into a number of factions. In 1959, the SSIA was formed from the
nationalist-oriented faction, with 90 students and 140 Shan defectors from
the Burmese Army.

Lo Hsin Han was captured in 1965, but the Burmese Army subsequently released
him to organize a KKY militia unit. After the defeat of Khun Sa, he became
one of the Shan State’s main opium suppliers until 

[CTRL] Fwd: Somebody Else's Wealth

1999-12-21 Thread Kris Millegan





Somebody Else's Wealth
By Russell Mokhiber and Robert Weissman

Where does the vast wealth of the United States come from? It is hard to
read the financial and popular press today without encountering stories
that suggest the answer is the creativity of entrepreneurs in Silicon
Valley.

To this prevailing, romanticized perspective, Winona LaDuke
offers a jolt of reality: Many of the great U.S. fortunes are based on
somebody else's wealth -- the natural resources of Native Americans.

In her eloquent new book, All Our Relations: Native Struggles for Land and
Life (Cambridge, Massachusetts: South End Press), LaDuke documents the
historic -- and ongoing -- process of Native American dispossession.

LaDuke, a member of the Anishinaabeg nation, lives on the White Earth
Reservation, in northern Minnesota. She describes how a series of treaties
and U.S. laws transferred land from the Anishinaabeg to incoming settlers
and converted commonly held Anishinaabeg land into individual parcels,
with much of it soon alienated from Anishinaabeg (and a huge chunk taken
by the state of Minnesota, illegally, for taxes).

The big winners in the process were Frederick Weyerhaueser and the company
he created. "Some are made rich and some are made poor," LaDuke writes.
"In 1895, White Earth 'neighbor' Frederick Weyerhaueser owned more acres
of timber than anyone else in the world." Today, descendant companies of
Weyerhaueser continue to clearcut what remains of the Minnesota pine
forests.

In upstate New York and Canada, the Mohawk nation retains land in
scattered reservations -- a tiny fraction of their former possessions. The
Akwesasne Mohawk Reserve borders the St. Lawrence River. Families that
once relied on fishing and farming have been forced, she writes, to
abandon their livelihoods because the river is so polluted with PCBs
dumped by General Motors and air pollution depositions have poisoned the
land.

"Many of the families used to eat 20-25 fish meals a month," LaDuke quotes
an Akwesasne environmental expert as saying. "It's now said that the
traditional Mohawk diet is spaghetti."

All Our Relations features another half dozen case studies of corporate
and governmental assaults on Native American land and livelihoods.

Dispossession of Native American lands has led to what LaDuke calls
"structural poverty." Structural poverty, she told us, "ensues when you do
not have control over the land or any of your assets."

"It is not a question of material wealth, but having conditions of human
dignity within the reservation," she says, citing a litany of devastating
statistics on Native American poverty rates, crime rates and access to
health care. "You can throw whatever social program you want at this, but
until we are allowed to determine our own destiny, these are the problems
we are going to face."

Dispossession has inflicted on Native Americans an intertwined spiritual
poverty as well, she says. "You have some [Native Americans] whose whole
way of life are based on buffalo, but we have no buffalo. This loss causes
a kind of grieving in our community."

But LaDuke's All Our Relations is as much a hopeful as depressing book.
She chronicles Native American resistance to incursions from multinational
corporations, government agencies which frequently act to further
corporate interests and a white-dominated society which too often
maintains a settler mentality.

She profiles women like Gail Small, "the kind of woman you'd want to watch
your back at a meeting with dubious characters." An attorney, Small runs a
group called Native Action, which has led the strikingly successful fight
against coal company strip mining on the Northern Cheyenne and other
Montana reservations. Native Action has also pushed for affirmative
development proposals, forcing the First Interstate Bank System to provide
loans to Northern Cheyennes through use of the Community Reinvestment Act
and helping establish a Northern Cheyenne high school.

LaDuke herself is an inspiring figure, working with her White Earth Land
Recovery Project not only to pressure states and the federal government to
return Native American lands (which because they are government held,
would not require the displacement of any individual property holders),
but also trying to enact a sustainable forest management plan for White
Earth, supporting the development of wind power on the reservation and
establishing a project, Native Harvest, to "restore traditional foods and
capture a fair market price for traditionally and organically grown foods"
such as wild hominy corn, organic raspberries, wild rice, buffalo sausage
and maple syrup.

All Our Relations is a wonderful read, and an important book -- both for
telling a story of plunder and exploitation too often forgotten, and
because, as LaDuke notes, "this whole discussion is really not about the
Seminoles and the panther" or other particular problems facing particular
groups of Native Americans -- "it is really about America."


Re: [CTRL] Kudos to Kris: High Times article

1999-12-21 Thread Kris Millegan

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In a message dated 12/21/99 5:22:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

PS, I live out in the sticks and can't get my hand on High Times either.
Please consider posting your article to the list when you get the chance
(especially after it goes of the shelves later this week), there are *lots*
of us on your list who are interesting in reading it.


 After it gets off the stands. ;-)

Om
k

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Re: [CTRL] Panamanians Seek U.S. Damages for Invasion Victims

1999-12-21 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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"Prudence L. Kuhn" wrote:

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 In a message dated 12/21/1999 1:30:25 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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  Then-U.S. President George Bush ordered the invasion of
  26,000 troops to capture Noriega and bring him to the United
  States to face drug trafficking and racketeering charges.

  Washington has estimated that about 300 Panamanians died
  in the invasion. But Panamanian human rights groups say the
  civilian death toll topped 3,000.

  ``We want justice for all the people killed in the vile massacre
  carried out by the U.S. Army,'' said Sebastian Vergara, head of
  action group the Families of the Fallen. 

 Invading Iraq to protect his oil contracts and invading Panama to get a guy
 he not only didn't like but wanted to make sure never saw the light of day
 again.  Maybe the world would have been a better place if he had just had an
 affair.  Oh no, what am I thinking of?  Killing people is fine.  It's sex
 that's bad, bad, badPrudy


Getting Noriega was a cover. The real reason the US invaded Panama was to
destroy the Panamanian military.

It was a pre-emptive strike. They knew that they had to give up the US bases
in Panama by 1999. So they created a " fact on the ground." That fact is...
Panama does not have a military which can protect the canal in a crisis.

Today, after giving the zone back to the people Teddy Roosevelt stole it
from, we have a secret agreement with the new US puppet government of Panama
to use the US military to "protect" the canal in times of crisis.

How is that for an example of long range planning by the CFR elites?

It's endless. I'm sick and tired of supporting Big Business' Capitalist
World Empire. I want my tax money to go towards universal health care and
universal education. I want the US military to stay the fuck at home and stop
killing people all over the world IN MY NAME to protect the investments of
the Rich with the bodies of the poor.

Joshua2

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[CTRL] From Books on Line

1999-12-21 Thread Linda Minor



http://digital.library.upenn.edu/webbin/book/subjectstart?HS

HS Societies and Clubs

Minutes of the Christian Convention, Held at Aurora, Illinois. Oct. 31st and
Nov. 1st, 1867 by Christian Convention at Aurora Ill. of 1867 (page images
at MOA)
Secret Societies: A Discussion of Their Character and Claims by David
Macdill, Jonathan Blanchard, and Edward Beecher (page images at MOA)
Statistical Abstract of the United States by United States Census Bureau
(PDF files at census.gov)
The Kloran of the White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, Realm of Mississippi by
Ku Klux Klan (frame-dependent page images at MSU)
The Practice of Klanishness by Ku Klux Klan (frame-dependent page images at
MSU)
The Symbolism of Freemasonry by Albert Gallatin Mackey (page images at MOA)
The Lights and Shadows of Freemasonry by Robert Morris (page images at MOA)
Tales of Masonic Life by Robert Morris (page images at MOA)
Masonic Trials and Michigan Digest by Henry M. Look (page images at MOA)
The Masonic Manual: A Pocket Companion for the Initiated (1867 edition) by
Robert Macoy (page images at MOA)
Constitution and Laws of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan by Ku Klux Klan
(frame-dependent page images at MSU)
Ritual in the Degree of Kriterion Konservator or the Women of the Ku Klux
Klan by Women of the Ku Klux Klan (frame-dependent page images at MSU)
A Fundamental Klan Doctrine by Ku Klux Klan (frame-dependent page images at
MSU)
Principles and Purposes of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan by Ku Klux Klan
(frame-dependent page images at MSU)
Questions Answered: Official by Ku Klux Klan (frame-dependent page images at
MSU)
Does the U.S.A. Need the K.K.K.? by Fred Bair (frame-dependent page images
at MSU)
Ku Klux Klan Secrets Exposed by Ezra Asher Cook (frame-dependent page images
at MSU)
The End of the Ku Klux Klan by Inu Esrov (frame-dependent page images at
MSU)
The Menace of Modern Immigration by Hiram Wesley Evans (frame-dependent page
images at MSU)
The Klan's Fight for Americanism by Hiram Wesley Evans (frame-dependent page
images at MSU)
The Ku Klux Klan: Its Origin, Meaning and Scope of Operation by C. Lewis
Fowler (frame-dependent page images at MSU)
K K K: The Kreed of the Klansmen: A Symposium, ed. by Emanuel
Haldeman-Julius (frame-dependent page images at MSU)
Ku Klux Klan by Julia Emily Johnsen (frame-dependent page images at MSU)
The Ku Klux Klan (from the American Publishing Society, 1922)
(frame-dependent page images at MSU)
Ideals of the Ku Klux Klan by Ku Klux Klan (frame-dependent page images at
MSU)
The Truth About the Women of the Ku Klux Klan (frame-dependent page images
at MSU)
America for Americans by Women of the Ku Klux Klan (frame-dependent page
images at MSU)
Ideals of the Women of the Ku Klux Klan by Women of the Ku Klux Klan
(frame-dependent page images at MSU)
Women of America! The Past! The Present! The Future! by Women of the Ku Klux
Klan (frame-dependent page images at MSU)
The Ku Klux Klan Unmasked by W. C. Wright (frame-dependent page images at
MSU)


 Call Numbers Starting With HS.url


Re: [CTRL] [1] Drugs, the U.S., and Khun Sa

1999-12-21 Thread TenebrousT

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In a message dated 12/21/99 5:21:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:


  Old Tony Poe now lives in retirement in the Richmond district of San
  Francisco.

Goat!  You forgot to put the word RETIREMENT in quotation marks.  :)

**
***
"Welcome to the desert of the real."  Morpheus, "The Matrix".

"The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human
mind to correlate all its contents.
  We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of seas of infinity,
and it is not meant that we should
  voyage far.  The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have
hitherto harmed us little; but someday
  the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying
vistas of reality, and of our
  frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation
or flee from the deadly light into the
  peace and safety of a new dark age."  H.P.Lovecraft; "The Call of Cthulhu"

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[CTRL] BITE MY SHINY METAL ASS...eh?

1999-12-21 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

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Hey maybe that is why Richard Nixon (whose head was stored in a bell jar)
decided to stage a comeback on Futurama (set in the year 3000) and steal
Bender's mechanical body...so he could say, "Bite my shiny metal ass!"
FWP.

Merry Christmas y'all.

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Date: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 11:52 AM
Subject: [Robots] Robots/Virtual Pets why I like em`


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (CyberBeast)

Recent Events have shown me that Biological lifeforms are NOT
trustworthy.Aside from fellow VR pet,Furby and Robotics enthusiasts I
can not get along with anyone.Why? Because I REFUSE to conform to what
they think I should be.I take a lot of crap for liking Furby where I`m
at.But I like what I like and I`d rather die than change who I am.I love
robots because unlike Biologicals they won`t pat you on the back one
minute while ramming a dagger through your heart the next.Humans have
been known to do that to me,which is why I am a Cosmist and a
Transhumanist.Robots can only do as programmed.They won`t turn on you
unless programmed to. And NO one would be dumb enough to program a `Bot
to be a backstabber.I want to see intelligent `bots created and I hope
to be one of the ones to help bring the technology about.I love Robots.I
love my Furbys who bring nothing but comfort and companionship to me.I
desperately want to see that technology improved.I hear the latest thing
will be voice recognition,so that you can carry on a conversation with
your Robot.I hope they hurry and bring it out.I want everyone on the
various robotic,Furby,VR pet lists I`ve joined to know that I count you
among my friends.The Artificial life crowd Rules!!! And fellow adult
Furby Fans if anyone EVER gives you any crap about liking Furby just
tell em` ( and I`m quoting one of my Heroes Bender the Robot from
Futurama ) Bite my shiny metal @$$ ( forgive the language ) I`m changing
my name one last time.It will be Robot.I won`t be on the lists for a few
hours as I have to re sign up once I get my Robot name.If any of you
want to contact me Feell free to do so at [EMAIL PROTECTED] a
permanent addy

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[CTRL] Remote Viewing Manuals

1999-12-21 Thread earthman

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Remote Viewing is a technique to view past, present  future events accruing
in this dimension  others. It's being used by secret agencies for a long
time for their sick purposes  agendas. However with positive use of this
technique, as one has said, you can do a lot of thingstalk to Buddha,
communicate with Dolphins, watch the Grays in underground facilities, find
lost objects or friends, watch your home when you are away, Predict stock
market movements  basically break the time/space barriers. A good site to
see is http://www.remoteview.com  . There are two online-manual links for RV
Techniques in that site:
1.  A HREF="http://www.remoteview.com/farsight/manual.html"The Farsight
Institute | The SRV Manual/A
2.  A
HREF="http://www.firedocs.com/remoteviewing/answers/crvmanual/"Firedoc
s Remote Viewing : The CRV Manual: Section Contents/A



We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard
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Re: [CTRL] Kris: High Times article: Purchase Info

1999-12-21 Thread TenebrousT

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writes:

 Hi Kris:

  Where do I buy a copy? Barnes and Noble or Borders? Thanks. Gavin.

I got a copy at Borders.

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  We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of seas of infinity,
and it is not meant that we should
  voyage far.  The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have
hitherto harmed us little; but someday
  the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying
vistas of reality, and of our
  frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation
or flee from the deadly light into the
  peace and safety of a new dark age."  H.P.Lovecraft; "The Call of Cthulhu"

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[CTRL] Fwd: Decade Forecast: Asia

1999-12-21 Thread Kris Millegan






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Asia's Future Centers on China and Japan

Summary

Grappling with the future of Asia means we must tackle two central
questions: the extent to which Asia can recover from the economic
disaster of 1997 and the political consequences of that collapse.
The Asian economic crisis marks the end of an era. The future of
Asia depends on the future of China, the region's largest nation,
and Japan, Asia's largest economy.


Analysis

Asia's explosive economic growth lasted for several decades and
embraced most of east and southeast Asia. The universality of
growth profoundly impacted the region's psychology, particularly at
a time when the United States was in decline. It seemed that a
lasting change of the guard was underway. Not only was there a
sense that Asia was surpassing the United States as the center of
international economic life, but there was a deeper belief that the
very nature of international power was changing.

For the United States, power rests on the three pillars of
economics, politics and the military. In recent times, Asia, and
particularly Japan, has rested its power almost exclusively on
economic growth. Prior to the economic crisis in 1997, Asia
appeared to be surpassing the United States economically and seemed
to be redefining the meaning of international power by rendering
traditional, politico-military considerations obsolete.

Asia's rapid economic growth overshadowed the need for military
competition. Moreover, the United States provided for the military
defense of much of Asia. The U.S. Navy served to protect the
region's strategic interests, including shipping lanes, while
keeping in check potential regional powers, like China and Russia.

With intra-regional disputes muted by the shared economic focus,
Asia did not have a great politico-military power. Nevertheless,
the theory went, Asia's economic vibrancy rendered American
military power moot. Indeed, American expenditures on military
power had undermined its own economic competitiveness.


After The Asian Economic Crisis

The Asian economic crisis shattered the region's self-image. Asia
would no longer be the vibrant center of the global economy. A new
consensus emerged with the view that Asia had sown the seeds of its
own disaster. Far from being miraculous, Asian economic growth was
the problem. The economy that had fueled Asian growth had also
undermined capital structure. After all, any economy can grow if it
is indifferent to profit.  It can compete on price and it can
afford investments that would appear irrational in an economy that
measures success by rates of return on capital.

Much said about Asia prior to 1997 was, in retrospect, overblown
nonsense. After all, if the Asian savings rate, work ethic and
discipline were all dedicated to a fundamentally flawed project
then Asian excellence was itself flawed. This realization has been
psychologically shattering. Lacking any politico-military power,
Asians had to confront the illusion that they were at the dynamic
center of the global economy. The burning issue in Asia,
particularly in Japan, was a project in self redefinition that
highlighted unique excellence.

Asia will emerge from the current economic crisis in a markedly
changed condition, but it will remain an influential and
potentially dangerous region. East Asian and Pacific nations
comprised 29.4 percent of the world's GDP in 1997. This unbalanced
over-dependence on the economy as a measure of power will give way
to a more balanced reality, in which economic power by itself will
be supplemented by political and military power.

China exemplifies this tendency. In the face of serious economic,
China has sought to stabilize itself by resorting to other types of
power. It has tried to revive an ideological defense of its
government. It has used military and political forces to suppress
opposition. And it has projected a more complex profile beyond its
borders, moving from a country primarily interested in economic
relations to a nation interested in great power status. 

[CTRL] Death by medical error, London: Sunday Times 19th Dec. 1999

1999-12-21 Thread Dave

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U.S. estimated figure for doctor-caused death is 155,000 persons.


Dave Hartley
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Sunday Times 19th Dec. 1999

Blunders by doctors kill 40,000 a year: Lois Rogers Medical Correspondent

MEDICAL error is the third most frequent cause of death in Britain after
cancer and heart disease, killing up to 40,000 people a year - about four
times more than die from all other types of accident.
Provisional research figures on hospital mistakes show that a further
280,000 people suffer from non-fatal drug-prescribing errors, overdoses and
infections. The victims spend an average of six extra days recovering in
hospital, at an annual cost of £730m in England alone.

A pilot study investigating the issue - the first attempt to measure the
problem in Britain - shows that one in 14 patients suffers some kind of
adverse event such as diagnostic error, operation mistake or drug reaction.

Charles Vincent, head of the clinical risk unit at University College
London, who is leading the study, has pioneered efforts to examine the
extent of clinical errors in Britain. His team has so far concentrated on
two London hospitals. The first data from one hospital showed that 32 out of
480 patients in four different departments were victims of hospital
mistakes.

Vincent's estimate of 40,000 deaths comes from studies showing that 3-4% of
patients in the developed world suffer some kind of harm in hospital. For
70% of them the resulting disability is short-lived, but 14% subsequently
die.

"It is a substantial problem," Vincent said. "There is a need to find out
the true extent of error, what kind of things are going wrong and the cost."
He believes the death rate may be even higher than indicated by the
preliminary figures.

Britain's death rate is comparable to that in America, where recommendations
in a report produced by the Kellogg Foundation three weeks ago are likely to
result in the creation of a new federal agency to protect patients from
medical error.

The report drew on studies that examined the records of 30,195 patients and
found a 3.7% error rate. Of those injured, 14% died. Researchers concluded
that 70% of the errors - and 155,000 deaths - were avoidable.

Anne Rogers is the victim of one of these mistakes in Britain. Her husband
Brian, a father of 10, bled to death after Christopher Ingoldby operated on
him for stomach cancer. He is one of 11 patients whose deaths have been
linked to treatment by Ingoldby.

Pinderfields and Pontefract NHS Trust is investigating 40 other cases of
alleged malpractice involving the surgeon, who has been suspended since
January. But Rogers said last week: "There is no point in making an example
of Ingoldby if they are going to allow another one like him to come and take
his place."


Bill Twist, 42, from Essex, lost his wife Sue, 37, through misdiagnosis and
delay in treating her malignant skin cancer. "If people are dealt with
properly, thousands more could be cured, instead of spending vast sums on
litigation and extra treatment for those who are terminally ill," he said.

Department of Health officials are now examining a proposal for a £1.2m
three-year national study of 20 hospitals and 10,000 medical records to
establish exactly how these avoidable deaths occur and how to prevent them.

Graham Neale, former professor of clinical medicine at Trinity College
Dublin, who is a leading expert on medical risk management, said: "In
Britain outside the weekday hours of nine to five, medical emergencies,
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"It is disgraceful that nothing has been done. There are far too many errors
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simply because we have not examined how to avoid them."

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month, doctors admitted that 20,747 British patients had died unexpectedly
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[CTRL] Speakers Sought: Conference on Detecting Dealing with Fraud in Clinical Trials

1999-12-21 Thread Dave

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 If you would be interested in speaking at a conference
on detecting and dealing with fraud in clinical trials,
please contact the conference sponsor directly using the information below.

 The program will be held in April in Philadelphia;
program sponsor is Barnett International.  Talks are 30
minutes in length with 10 minutes for QA.  Audience is at
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Subj:Re: Speakers Sought: Conference on Detecting  Dealing with Fraud
  in  clinical trials
Date:   12/21/99 10:24:59 PM Eastern Standard Time
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Betty Martini)
Reply-to:   A
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lyn Hunter)

Activist Mailing List - http://get.to/activist

Dear Lyn,

I'll put this on the list and see if any of the physicians want to
speak.  Thank you for thinking of me.

All my best,
Betty

I'll also put this on other lists for others interested.  At 10:12 PM
12/21/99 +, you wrote:
Hi Betty,

I a subscribe to the following list, and wondered in you or
anyone else would like to speak at the conference.

Lyn.

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: December 21, 1999
11:57 AM
 Subject: Speakers Sought: Conference on Detecting 
Dealing with Fraud in clinical trials

 Hello:

 If you would be interested in speaking at a conference
on detecting and dealing with fraud in clinical trials,
please contact me directly using the information below, or
reply to this email.

 The program will be held in April in Philadelphia;
program sponsor is Barnett International.  Talks are 30
minutes in length with 10 minutes for QA.  Audience is at
an advanced level; speakers do not pay a registration fee;
assistance for expenses is available.

 I look forward to hearing from you.
 Happy Holidays!

 If you are not familiar with Barnett, please visit our
website and view our list of conferences.  Thank you.

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Re: [CTRL] Zipped File-Report To Pres. And Congress Re:Terrorism and ...

1999-12-21 Thread Tenorlove

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OK, Bill, a link would work too
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Re: [CTRL] Kudos to Kris: High Times article

1999-12-21 Thread Tenorlove

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Thanks Kris and Linda.

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Paranormal Experiences

1999-12-21 Thread Andrew Hennessey

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hi,

please take this mr pseudo rational guy out of my rational life.
If he wants to talk about science and logic it doesn't come down
plainer to the following basic equation/formula - after that its bye bye
mr skeptic

ie. his premis: ALL experiences are a Biochemical experience
and that this is 'Rational cf. Logically Real'

He has staked his scientific reputation and credibility - his logic
and reason on a form of logical fundamentalism called 'Logical Realism'
However all we need to completely dismiss this tosh - [ie. falsify it]
is ONE - AND ONLY ONE contradiction.

If we find only ONE contradiction - mr skeptic loses his high horse of
rationalism immediately as he can now only say Logically:

SOME experiences [not ALL] are a biochemical experience,

and mr rational skeptic melts back into the woodwork as he can now be
labelled classically 'irrational' - and if he continues - is merely
arguing fo his own person psychological beliefs - which have nothing
to do with the mechanism of scientific reason.

There are Mountains of anecdotal and verifiable evidence of information
gathered from remote viewing/OBE's that have supplied information from
geographical localities - outwith the immediate remit of the biological
senses.

So we can safely say that this guy hasn't got a full grip on reality.

Andrew Hennessey


  CONCLUSION: In comprehending the nature of out-of-body
  expereinces there's one thing we can know for sure: the
  fact that all observed data have already entered the
  skull of the observer leaves no room for doubt that the
  world you perceive including your perceived body is a
  simulation inside your brain of the real world outside
  your brain. The real world is thus never directly
  perceived. One explanation for out-of-body experiences
  is that the observer, or consciousness, moves outside
  the physical body via a spirit body. However, the physical
  evidence indicates that the spirit-body theory rests on
  the illusion that the observer's perceived body and
  environment are the real thing rather than a model inside
  the observer's brain, wherein, as a result of neurological
  anomalies, an observer can transcend the limits of his
  perceived body without actually transcending the limits
  of his real physical body.



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[CTRL] Nazi Connections to the Occult

1999-12-21 Thread Nicky Molloy

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http://user.fastinet.net/kalogonis/index/other.htm



Other Nazi Connections to the Occult




Hitler Pouring Lead to Predict the Future



This photograph captured der Fuehrer engaged in the ancient Teutonic
practice of "pouring lead" on New Year's Eve, 1938-39 at the Berghoff. This
method of divination required that small lead pellets be brought to a molten
state over an open flame, and then poured onto another surface, in this case
a sink, where upon the future could supposedly be foretold based upon the
shapes taken by the pellets upon cooling. John Tolland tells us that Ilse
Braun, Eva's sister, commented that Hitler became so despondent upon reading
the results that he sat down in a chair and hardly spoke for the rest of the
evening.

Hitler is also known to have possessed quite an interest in astrology as
well. In fact, the September 10, 1940 issue of Look magazine featured an
article entitled "The Hitler Nobody Knows" in which it contained the
following quote beneath the picture of Hitler seated at his desk, studying
his horoscope:

"Hitler's Mysticism and his alleged addiction to astrology have been
described often and have become a widely accepted part of the Hitler Legend.

My collaborator has gone through Hitler's private observatory in his
mountain retreat in Bavaria and found it filled with charts of the heavens,
telescopes, and instruments of all sorts. But it is a typically scientific
layout and there is nothing mystic about it.

Hitler pursues astrology as a hobby in the same way other men collect
stamps, coins, or butterflies. Actor that he is, Hitler listens with
apparent faith to the horoscopes prepared by his various astrologers.
Actually he is just playing them along.

Not a shred of evidence has been discovered to support the contention that
Hitler has ever been influenced in any of his history making decisions by
the reading of the heavens and the stars, unless the readings referred to
weather reports that might have an influence on coming military operations."

But if Hitler never really paid any attention to horoscopes, then how does
one explain the fact that the man whom Hitler had chosen to be his second in
command, Hermann Goering, just happened to be born on the same day as Alfred
Rosenberg, the chief Nazi ideologist whom Hitler had also chosen to serve as
editor of the party's newspaper? Better yet, considering the odds against
it, how does one explain the fact that not only were they born on the same
day, but that they also died on almost the same day, within 3 days of each
other due to the fact that Rosenberg committed suicide 3 days prior to his
scheduled execution with Goering? (Note the screen captures from Grollier's
Encyclopedia below which attest to the facts of their birth and death
dates).



Was this all mere coincidence? If so, then was it also merely coincidence
that Hitler, the greatest killer of Jews in history, just happened to be
born during Passover? Or that as a man who has often been pointed to as
being a type of the antichrist, he just happened to have been born on Holy
Saturday, sandwiched in between Good Friday and Easter Sunday, as the
following screen capture also proves?



In addition, it is a well known fact that Hitler believed himself to be
destined for greatness, another indication perhaps that he believed that the
future was mapped out already. He is quoted in The Book of Predictions as
having told to his friends, "You will hear much about me. Just wait until my
time comes," after he survived an explosion in a trench where he had been
sitting until he said he heard a voice tell him to move away from the spot
where he was currently seated. (This was in 1915 while serving as a soldier
in World War I). He followed the instructions of the voice, moving perhaps
60 feet away, and immediately thereafter his original spot was hit by a
blast which killed all of his comrades who remained there. This incident
helped to confirm his belief that he had been saved for a special purpose in
life, just as the failed future attempts to assassinate him did as well.

And thus as Napoleon before him (who some people have also equated with
antichrist, and who also paid heed to astrology), Hitler believed himself to
be a man of destiny. As a matter of fact, when he went to Paris in June of
1940 upon the capitulation of France, he visited the tomb of Napoleon,
"gazing at it for nearly an hour" according to William L. Shirer. What is
even more strange about this action is that Hitler only stayed in Paris for
about 5-6 hours. Yet he spent nearly an hour of that time just gazing at the
tomb! (In the photo of this event shown below, Hitler is dressed in the
light colored clothing).



In conjunction with this mysticism stands the fact that Hitler also played
the role of High Priest of National 

Re: [CTRL] New Worm virus - from CTRL List

1999-12-21 Thread Bill Kingsbury

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At 07:22 PM 12-21-1999 EST, Kris wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Watch your Off-List e-mail messages for the following .EXE
 attachments, comprising the "W32.NewApt.Worm" worm virus.
 I received two of them recently, from the same virus brain:

 Bill, I am confused, I do not see the attachment in the CTRL
archives and you yourself sent the email on the topic from Orbit.

Did someone send you something in response, personally?


  Yes, Kris - someone sent a reply to the message I forwarded
  from Orbit.  It won't be in the archives, because they
  sent it 'Off-List', directly to me.  But look at "who"
  it is addressed "from"  (obviously spoofed) -- it says only
  that it was sent "from" - "Conspiracy Theory Research List
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]", instead of the actual sender.

  Also, I received a similar "reply" to a different message,
  with the same type of worm attached -- a few days earlier,
  appearing to be a reply to an earlier message.  That one
  was addressed as follows:

Received: from mail.gte.net ([207.136.200.107]) by mtapop1.gte.net
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From:  Dwight Lorenz [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Somewhat amusing to me, but it could potentially do a less-
  informed recipient some damage, judging from the code

  Symantec's Norton Anti-Virus web page doesn't give a full
  description of all the worm's apparent capabilities -- it's
  still rather new, and they've already found four variations:

   http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/index.html



  Bill






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[CTRL] The Rosicrucian Connection and Stewart dynasty

1999-12-21 Thread Nicky Molloy

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* In March '95, the radio station Arutz Sheva announced that it had seen a
cable sent by the Israeli Embassy in Rome to the Foreign Ministry in
Jerusalem outlining the handover of the Old City of Jerusalem to the
Vatican. Two days later Haaretz published the cable on its front page.

http://watch.pair.com/priory.html


The Rosicrucian

Connection



During the Middle Ages, the Roman Catholic Church was a political power
which was allied with the monarchies of Europe. In 1099 A.D., Pope Urben II
called Western Christendom to take up arms to liberate the Holy Land from
the Moslems. Later, in 1215, the Inquisition formally began during the reign
of Pope Innocent III, who issued the following statement: "That they shall
be seized for trial and penalties, who engage in the translation of the
sacred volumes, or who hold secret conventicles, or who assume the office of
preaching without the authority of their superiors; against whom process
shall be commenced, without any permission of appeal." Thomas M'Crie
records, "In the eleventh century, capital punishment, even in its most
dreadful form, that of burning alive, was extended to all who obstinately
adhered to opinions differing from the received faith." Henry Charles Lea
wrote: "The papal Inquisition . . . constituted a chain of tribunals
throughout Continental Europe perpetually manned by those who had no other
work to attend to…by constant interchange of documents and mutual
co-operation they covered Christendom with a network rendering escape almost
hopeless." (1)

Today, the Vatican maintains its own State Department and an influential
albeit non-voting presence in the United Nations. Reports such as the
following confirm current Vatican negotiations to regain control of the Holy
Land. Although it must now work through diplomatic channels, the second
Vatican conquest of the Holy Land will be heralded as another spiritual
mandate to reestablish the Holy Roman Empire.

The Vatican's Jerusalem Agenda by Israeli journalist, Barry Chamish, inquire
s: 'Did Shimon Peres make a deal with the Vatican? Consider the evidence:

* On Sept. 10, '93, just three days before the signing of the Declaration of
Principles in Washington, the Italian news magazine La Stampa reported that
part of the peace deal was an unwritten understanding that the Vatican would
receive political authority over the Old City of Jerusalem by the end of the
millenium. The newspaper reported that Shimon Peres had promised the pope to
hand over the holy sites of Jerusalem the previous May and that Arafat had
accepted the agreement.

* In March '94, the Israeli newsmagazine Shishi published an interview with
Mark Halter, a French intellectual and close friend of Shimon Peres. He said
he delivered a letter from Peres to the Pope the previous May, within which
Peres offered the Vatican hegemony over the Old City of Jerusalem. The
article detailed Peres's offer which essentially turned Jerusalem into an
international city overseen by the Holy See.

* In March '95, the radio station Arutz Sheva announced that it had seen a
cable sent by the Israeli Embassy in Rome to the Foreign Ministry in
Jerusalem outlining the handover of the Old City of Jerusalem to the
Vatican. Two days later Haaretz published the cable on its front page.

The Foreign Ministry explained that the cable was genuine but someone had
whited out the word "not." ie We will not transfer authority to the Vatican.
Incredibly, numerous Bnei Brak rabbis who had cancelled Passover meetings
with Peres over the issue of the cable accepted the explanation and
reinvited him to their homes.

The Foreign Ministry's Legal Affairs Spokesperson, Esther Samilag, publicly
complained about "various capitulations" to the Vatican. She was immediately
transferred to a post at the Israeli Embassy in Katmandu, Nepal.

MK Avraham Shapira announced in the Knesset that he had information that all
Vatican property in Jerusalem was to become tax exempt and that large tracts
of real estate on Mount Zion were given to the pope in perpetuity.

Jerusalem's late Deputy Mayor Shmuel Meir announced that he had received
"information that properties promised to the Vatican would be granted
extra-territorial status."

Beilin was forced to answer the accusations. He admitted, "Included in the
Vatican Agreement is the issue of papal properties in Israel that will be
resolved by a committee of experts that has already been formed." If so,
this committee has not since released any proof of its existence.

With all this in mind, how do we interpret the Vatican's current position on
Jerusalem?

The following report, circulated by MSANews may shed some light on that:

Vatican City, Jun 14, 1997 (VIS) - Archbishop Renato Martino, apostolic
nuncio and Holy See permanent observer to the United Nations, spoke June 9
on the status of Jerusalem at the New York headquarters of the Path to Peace
Foundation. The archbishop addressed members of this foundation as well as

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