[CTRL] [SC] Skeptic News - Wednesday #1 - Y2K Leap Day safely passed - whew!

2000-03-07 Thread Ric Carter

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  us its flat, dull black belly. No engines visible there, no apparent air
  intakes, no fuel pods, no TARPS pods. Just a smoothed-out triangular
  bodywork. http://members.aol.com/Flyfoto01/BlackTriangleFastmover.html

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# Nose Cone Comes to Corpus Christi. HOUSTON – Beachcombers found more than
  driftwood and messages in bottles over the weekend in Mustang Island State
  Park. A strange object, which fits the description of a nosecone from an
  Ariane 5 solid-rocket booster, washed up on a beach across from the city
  of Corpus Christi, Texas. Then it disappeared, starting a local mystery.
  Could this be another Roswell or are the mysterious men in black involved?
  http://www.space.com/space/launches/ariane_trash_000228.html

# Also - Russian Junk or Major UFO Event?
  http://www.space.com/spaceimagined/area51/sep_sighting.html
# Space Vehicles Arrive -- But Whose?
  http://www.space.com/spaceimagined/area51/spacejunk_991105.html
# Space Station Dodges Debris:
  http://www.space.com/space/spacestation/iss_debris_991026.html
# Space Junk Threatens Orbiting Satellites:
  http://www.space.com/space/launches/spacejunk-1_824.html

: Have you found/lost/bought/sold/stolen any space junk lately? D'ya have a
good collection? What's y'r favorite source/sink for surplus/scavenged space
hardware? D'ya do interesting stuff with it? Do your voices recommend it??

# NASA'S LATEST COMET HUNTER WON'T BE LEFT IN COSMIC DUST. A mission slated
  to fly by the nuclei of 3 comets won't be left in the dust like an earlier
  robot ship that sputtered near Halley, NASA wonks aver. The Comet Nuclear
  Tour (Contour) spacecraft should approach to within 100 km (62 miles) of
  two or three comets, cosmic chunks of ice and rock that scientists think
  could have served as building blocks for planets in the solar system and
  life on Earth. http://CNN.com/2000/TECH/space/02/29/contour/index.html
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# Maid to Order - Robots who do more than windows. My ideal robot has not
  only eyes but also an obliging and adorable personality. My robot can do a
  multiplicity of tasks  has my best interests "at heart." The robot I have
  in mind is a she, whereas a machine that,say, spot-welds car frames, picks
  up moon rocks and deactivates bombs is definitely a he. My she-bot often
  wears an apron. Come to think of it, she is a 1950's wife made of metal
   minus the hairdo. I am starting to feel guilty just thinking about her.
  http://www10.nytimes.com:80/library/magazine/home/2227mag-style.html

: Who is your favorite robot? D'ya routinely exploit robots, other machines,
people/aliens/animals/me? Do electronic/biological entities deserve exploi-
tation because they're inferior?Are any robots superior to you? D'ya cringe?

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# MOST MEN WOULD BE WILLING TO TAKE MALE CONTRACEPTICE PILL - new interna-
  tional poll: http://www.healthcentral.com/news/newsfulltext.cfm?ID=28135
# 200,000 hooked on Web porn - 'A hidden public-health hazard exploding' -
 

[CTRL] Fact Check

2000-03-07 Thread lloyd

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Cc: David Kupelian [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Joe Farah [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
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Subject: Fact Check
Date: Saturday, March 04, 2000 2:39 PM


Hello Geoff Metcalf,

You note that "TWA Flight 800 was the 14th fuel-tank
explosion on a commercial airliner in 35 years." You
indicate that this series of explosions supports the
government's theory about the cause of the explosion
of Flight 800's center-wing tank. [*]

Can you send me a list of 14 spontaneous fuel-tank
explosions that were not caused by an external event
impacting the fuel-tank system, but that were caused by
some event initiated inside the system, consistent with
the government's Flight-800 theory? Christine Negroni's
book, which you promote, fails to list 14 internally
sourced spontaneous fuel-tank explosions so much like
the government's theory that it could've been predicted.
So where are the 14 cases so much like the government's
theory about Flight 800 that they make the government's
theory about Flight 800 a predictable likelihood?

Without those 14 examples, the argument of Negroni and
the government has no basis in fact... in which case
it would be proper to correct the erroneous implication
that there were 14 planes whose fuel tanks exploded
without any external impact upon the fuel-tank system.

Thanks.

[*]
http://worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_exnews/2302_xex_deadly_depar.shtml

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http://freehosting1.at.webjump.com/8918049ed/tw/twa800-webjump/negronireview
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[CTRL] Underground UFO Bases, Inslaw, and Wackenhut 1/3

2000-03-07 Thread Nicky Molloy

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Underground UFO Bases, Inslaw, and Wackenhut 1/3

Edited by Branton.


http://www.anomalous-images.com/text/BASE-SUB.TXT
http://www.anomalous-images.com/text/files.html

(INPUT 001)The following article comes from the 'TC TECHNICAL CONSULTANT',
Nov.-Dec., 1991 issue: "The death of a journalist in West Virginia, plus
the
jailing of an alleged CIA computer consultant in Washington State
may be elements of a much wider scandal that could have serious
implications for the Bush White House in 1992.
 "What started out as an investigation of an apparent case of
pirated software has grown to be a project involving hundreds of
journalists all over the world.
 "The dead journalist, Joseph Daniel 'Danny' Casolaro was
found dead August 10th in a motel room in West Virginia.  His
wrists were slashed seven times on each wrist and a suicide note
was found nearby.  The only manuscript of his book, with
accompanying notes, WAS MISSING.

 "The book, provisionally titled 'The Octopus', was meant to
be an explosive expose of misdeeds by the Justice Department
under the Reagan administration.  Time Magazine also reported
that Casolaro's research centered on gambling and attempted arms
deals at the Cabazon reservation near Indio (California -Branton).
 "Indeed, the scope of Casolaro's investigation was so large
that any one of a large number of areas of research could have
been the trigger for a possible hit.

 "While authorities declared his death a suicide, his
relatives definitely stated that Casolaro's mental state was
sound, indeed upbeat, after the completion of his book.
 "Casolaro started his work nearly two years before,
investigating the bankrupting of a small computer software
company called Inslaw, allegedly by the U.S. Justice Department.
INSLAW, a company headed by Bill and Nancy Hamilton of Washington
D.C., had developed a package known as PROMIS--short for
Prosecutor's Management Information System--to act as a case
management tool for the Justice Department's unwieldy work load.

 "Inslaw President Bill Hamilton [NOT the well-known UFO
researcher - Branton] has claimed that Ed Meese associate EARL
BRIAN was given control of pirated versions of the PROMIS
software by Meese to sell back to different U.S. government
agencies for great profit.  Two courts have so far agreed with
Hamilton awarding an 8 million dollar judgement, but a higher
court of appeal has quashed the award and the verdict, declaring
that it was not the jurisdiction of the lower courts.  As of
October 9, the case has moved into the realm of the SupremeCourt.
 "EARL BRIAN OWNS UNITED PRESS INTERNATIONAL (UPI) and
FINANCIAL NEWS NETWORK (FNN).

 "According to a Washington man, who claims to have modified
the cobol-based software for the CIA and other intelligence
agencies, the software was a reward for Earl Brian's role in
arranging the so-called 'October Surprise' gambit, the alleged
conspiracy to withhold the American hostages in Iran until after
the 1980 election which saw Carter removed from power.  The
'October Surprise' scandal has taken some time to emerge.
 "In a Paris meeting, President Bush is alleged to have met
with Ali Akabar Hashemi Rafsanjani, the speaker of the Iranian
Parliament, Mohammed Ali Rajai, the future President of Iran and
Manucher Ghorbanifar, an Iranian arms dealer with connections to
Mossad, according to Navy Captain Gunther Russbacher who claims
to have flown Bush, William Casey--the CIA chief--and Donald
Gregg, a CIA operative to that location.  Russbacher, who made
these allegations in May is now in jail on Terminal Island,
convicted on the charge of impersonating a U.S. Attorney.

 "The Washington man is MICHAEL RICONOSCIUTO who is now
waiting for a trial in a Washington jail on conspiracy to sell
drugs charges, charges which Riconosciuto claims are
manufactured.  Indeed, the charge made against Riconosciuto were
made one week after Riconosciuto authored and signed an affidavit
describing his role in modifying the pirated software.
 "The affidavit also claimed that he had been contacted by
phone and threatened by PETER VIDENIEKS, a Justice Department
employee and Customs official, who Riconosciuto alleged had
intelligence ties, as to the possible consequences of his going
public with certain information.

 "According to Riconosciuto, Videnieks was a frequent visitor
to the Cabazon Indian reservation near Palm Springs and visited
with tribal manager, John P. Nichols.  Nichols was in essence
Riconosciuto's boss in a number of enterprises conducted on
reservation land and the PROMIS modification was just one of
these projects.  According to Riconosciuto, in an interview with
T.C. conducted from jail, the PROMIS software was modified to
install a backdoor access for use by American intelligence
services.  The software was then sold to 88 different countries
as a sort of 'trojan horse' package 

[CTRL] Underground UFO Bases, Inslaw, and Wackenhut 2/3

2000-03-07 Thread Nicky Molloy

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[ BTW This is more detail on what the Omega Agency stuff was about.]

-Subject: Underground UFO Bases, Inslaw, and Wackenhut 2/3


http://www.anomalous-images.com/text/BASE-SUB.TXT

(INPUT 002)On Oct. 20, 1991, California researcher Michael Lindemann,
founder of 'The 20/20 Group', gave a lecture before a large crowd
of interested investigators which seems to confirm much of that
which appears above.  Mr. Lindemann began his address by saying:
 "How many of your saw the program on CBS Network on May 17th
(1991) called 'ABDUCTION'?  It was narrated by James Earl Jones.
It was really quite a remarkable program, it took the subject of
abduction absolutely seriously.  This was prime time network,
CBS.  Of course FOX (network) has done a number of other programs
and there have been some outstanding UFO segments on 'UNSOLVED
MYSTERIES'.  But last night, maybe even a little more remarkable
than the FOX 1-hour special, was what came on the news right
after.  Because in the Fox Network news program that followed in
the 10 o'clock segment there was a hard news story about the
allegation that the United States government is 'doing business'
with greys.  I have never seen anything like it... it was a very
impressive indication of the way in which this subject is
suddenly becoming O.K. to talk about.  That says to me there has
been a switch 'at the top'...

 "In our conversation today I use two terms... and the first
of these terms is 'government'.  We speak of the government as if
it is a single thing.  It is hardly that.  It is actually a
hodge-podge of... power-struggling people, but I would like to
break it up into two main categories, and that is: 1) The
government that we consider to be our duly constituted, our
elected and appointed representatives who attempt as best they
can to run a semblance of order or Federal government which
follows the dictates of the constitution of the United States.
The constitution is, after all, a darn good piece of paper, it is
one of the best ever written... If only our government were
capable of behaving in even... a resemblance of what is intended
in the constitution, probably few of us would have a great dealto gripe
about...

 "Now that they've failed to do that is not only because they
are fallible humans, but also because they are undermined by
another government.  There is indeed another government operating
and that government has immense power and operates primarily
behind the scenes.  And some other researchers have called it the
'secret government', some have called it the 'high cabal'.  And
it is a group of people, a very elite group, non-elected, self-
appointed people who guide the evolution of (government) policy
from behind the scenes.  These are people who transcend partisan
politics, indeed who transcend the rule of law, and have no
thought whatsoever toward the dictates of the constitution.

 "These are people who regard themselves as the only true
guardians or crafters of geo-political reality.  And they regard
us, indeed they regard elected officials as 'mere mortals'.
These people are the self-appointed 'OLYMPIANS'.  They have done
many things in the name of an agenda which is their own, that we
would consider appalling and reprehensible.  Indeed things that
are criminal, but they're more than criminal because they have
sapped and usurped the rights and privileges and the
possibilities of our future.  These people are running a king of
'end game' right now.  They are trying to determine how 'they'
will survive the end time.  Whether that end time comes as a kind
of biblical apocalypse or... as the catastrophic collapse of the
environment... the (so-called) 'population bomb' and all the
other things.. whether it comes as a collapse of the banking-
system which looks to be only days away, or the collapse of the
rest of the world's economy - there are many things that could get us.

 "And these people in effect are building their own version
of 'Noah's Ark'.  And that 'Noah's Ark' they're building is
underground.  Underground bases, indeed all over the world, but
particularly here in the United States.  Huge underground bases
that have actually festooned the underground geography of our
continent in a way that would probably stun and shock you.  But
they even have an underground government, because you see when
the government topside is no longer functional because a nuclear
bomb lands on Capital Hill, or whether it comes simply because
the chaos has reached a point where they must abandon ship, there
is preparation as there has been for decades for continuity of
government, all the computers, all the personnel are currently in
place and operating around the clock.

Yes, they are there
friends, we have another government in waiting, a government that
you never authorized, that you never said we would pay for, that
has cost a CALLOSAL FORTUNE, but it's there underground, ready to

[CTRL] Underground UFO Bases, Inslaw, and Wackenhut 3/3

2000-03-07 Thread Nicky Molloy

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Subject: Underground UFO Bases, Inslaw, and Wackenhut 3/3


http://www.anomalous-images.com/text/BASE-SUB.TXT

"How many of you have seen the book 'BLANK CHECK'?... It is
not a UFO book.  I strongly recommend that you read the book
'BLANK CHECK' so that you can understand something about how
these projects are funded without your sayso, indeed without the
sayso of Congress.  Most citizens don't know for example that the
National Security Act of 1947 made it illegal to ever say how
much money is spent on the CIA.  Indeed all of our tremendous
alphabet soup collection of Intelligence Agencies.  Whether your
talking about the CIA, or the NRO, or the NSA or the DIA, etc.,
all of them are in the same category.

 "You cannot say how much these things cost.  All you can do
if you want to find out is add-up the numbers on the Budget
(which is presently at a deficit of well over 4 TRILLION
dollars - Branton) that aren't assigned to anything that actually
means anything.  There are these huge categories that have tens
of billions of dollars in them that say nothing but 'Special
Projects...'  And every year the Congress dutifully passes this
bloated budget that has some $300,000,000,000 or more with HUGE
chunks of cash labeled like that - 'Special Projects,' 'Unusual
Stuff.' - Ten billion dollars.  O.K., well where does the
'unusual stuff' money go?  Well, it DOES go to 'unusual stuff',
that's for sure, and one of the places it goes is that it goes
into the underground bases.  Indeed TIM said recently since the
publication of his book (BLANK CHECK)... MORE Black Budget money
goes into underground bases than ANY OTHER kind of work.

 "Now I don't believe that 35 billion, which is the
approximate size of the black budget money that you can find by
analyzing the budget, I don't think that comes CLOSE to the real
figure because there is absolutely unequivocal evidence that a
great deal of additional money was generated in other ways, such
as the surreptitious running of guns and drugs.  And one
wonderful example of that is coming to light with the B.C.C.I.
scandal which I hope you've heard of... a number of very high-
ranking American officials are caught in the undertow of the BCCI
tidal wave... Even though these guys are tying to pull 'fast
ones' on an immense scale they are getting caught.  These things
don't always work.  Indeed they are very, very vulnerable.

 Indeed this whole 'end game' is very vulnerable and that's
why they feel it requires such secrecy.  The American people
wouldn't stand for this stuff if they had the information, and
that's the reason why we have to get the information out and take
it seriously because it really is a matter of our money and our
future that's being mortgaged here.
 "But my friend who worked in the underground bases, who was
doing sheetrock was down on, he thinks, approximately the 30th
level underground... these bases are perhaps 30-35 stories deep
('ground-scrapers' as opposed to a 'sky-scrapers' - Branton).  As
I say they are not just mine shafts, these are huge, giant
facilities... many city blocks in circumference, able to house
tens of thousands of people.  One of them, the YANO Facility
(we're told... by the county fire dept. director, the county fire
dept. chief who had to go in there to look at a minor fire
infraction) there's a 400-car parking lot on the 1st level of the
YANO Facility, but cars never come in and out, those are the cars
that they use INSIDE.

 "O.K., so... a very interesting situation down there.  Our
guy was doing sheetrock on the 30th floor, maybe the 30th floor,
underground.  He and his crew are working on a wall and right
over here is an elevator door.  The elevator door opens and, a
kind of reflex action you look, and he saw three 'guys'.  Two of
them, human engineers that he's seen before.  And between them a
'guy' that stood about 8 to 8 1/2 feet tall.  Green skin,
reptilian features, extra-long arms, wearing a lab coat, holdinga
clip-board.

 "...I tend to believe that story because, first of all
because we have other stories like it, but more importantly
because he walked off that job that very day.  And he was getting
paid a GREAT deal of money... If your basically a sheetrock kind
of guy, if you can do sheetrock in a place like that then you get
paid way more than standard sheetrock wages, you can count on it.

 "So, he walked off that job.  His buddy on that same crew
turned into an alcoholic shortly after.  This is an extremely
upsetting thing.  You know, it wasn't like this alien jumped out
and bit his head off or anything, it was just standing there for
a few minutes, the doors closed.  He has a feeling that that
elevator was malfunctioning, otherwise he never would have seen
that except by accident.

 "In another incident though... at the China Lake Naval
Weapons Station, up here at China Lake... near Ridgequest...
they were working there 

[CTRL] GOP Urges Protest Vs. TV Anchors (fwd)

2000-03-07 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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[THIS is COOL.  --MS]

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 05:44:10 -0600
From: Bill Nalty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CAS: AP: GOP Urges Protest Vs. TV Anchors

To:

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[EMAIL PROTECTED],

See post that follows:

GOP Urges Protest Vs. TV Anchors

By David Bauder
AP Television Writer
Tuesday, March 7, 2000; 1:13 a.m. EST

NEW YORK –– The Republican National Committee has given out the
telephone numbers of Tom Brokaw, Peter Jennings and Dan Rather,
urging Republicans to call the network anchors to protest
coverage of a Democratic fund-raising trial.

Committee Chairman Jim Nicholson was miffed that the evening news
programs didn't devote more time to last Thursday's conviction of
Vice President Gore's former fund-raiser for arranging illegal
contributions to Democrats during the 1996 campaign.

Maria Hsia was convicted of five felony counts for arranging more
than $100,000 in illegal contributions.

"I think it's neglect," Nicholson said Monday. "If she had been a
Republican operative who had brought money to a Republican
candidate, there would have been an absolute uproar in the media
and there should have been in this case."

Network representatives say such organized protests are common.
What made Nicholson's directive unusual was that it included the
office phone numbers of the anchors and their bosses and, in some
cases, their e-mail addresses.

His call to arms was sent out via e-mail to about 10,000 GOP
activists and radio talk show hosts across the country.

By late Monday afternoon, CBS reported "a handful" of phone calls
and ABC said it had received a few dozen. NBC received less than
15 calls, spokeswoman Barbara Levin said.

"It's politics," said ABC spokeswoman Eileen Murphy.

Nicholson said that the "CBS Evening News" devoted 23 seconds to
the story Thursday evening, while ABC's "World News Tonight"
logged 19 seconds. NBC's "Nightly News" did not mention the
story, he said.

ABC has reported extensively on the fundraising scandal since it
was first uncovered, Murphy said. To measure its commitment by
the number of seconds broadcast on Thursday is silly, she said.

"We don't feel like we have anything to apologize for," she said.

The phone calls may have taken Brokaw by surprise; he was on
vacation last Thursday and Brian Williams filled in on NBC's
nightly news.

"As any independent news organization has found, organized
campaigns like this do occur periodically and we understand
that," Levin said. "We make editorial decisions in our newsroom
every day and we stand by them."

© Copyright 2000 The Associated Press

http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a38c4c3d969a9.htm
To: anymouse

I wrote (very briefly) to:

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Jennings, Brokaw, and jck were returned. I then re-sent the
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to each of the returned addies. In every one case of the three
different domains, at least one message did not bounce. I had
practiced this by fighting spammers; it does work. Boomerang

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Re: [CTRL] IUFO: TIMES: Vegetarian Antichrist is 'walking amongus'

2000-03-07 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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Franklin Wayne Poley wrote:

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 On Mon, 6 Mar 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  London Times 3/6/00
  Vegetarian Antichrist is 'walking among us'
 
  FROM RICHARD OWEN IN ROME
  THE leading conservative contender to succeed the Pope yesterday said that
  the "Antichrist" was already on Earth in the guise of a prominent
  philanthropist whose concern for human rights and the environment and
  advocacy of ecumenicism masks his real aim: the destruction of Christianity
  and "the death of God".
  Cardinal Giacomo Biffi, 71, the Archbishop of Bologna, said the Antichrist
 

 Sounds like a lot of "bologna" to me...or maybe "papal bull".
 FWP.

I think Biffi is boffo.
He understands that human rights and and love for the planet are
incompatible
with Christianity.

If Poley says it's bull, it must be true. He's very consistent.

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Re: [CTRL] Waco Protest Today!

2000-03-07 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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3/5/00

I wish that religion could produce as prodigious a supply of fresh
clean water, as well as it produces such an overflowing of lunatics.

Joshua2
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 ali andrew wrote:

In The Name of God Most Gracious Most Merciful

 An Open Letter to "Clive Doyle"

 I am coming to New Jerusalem (Mt.Carmel) to declare the"Truth" about
 the crimes that you are committing against the Martyrs and against
 the laws of God.

 I will not trespass on the property, because as I said on November
 28,1999 when you had me arrested for speaking the Truth, "I don't
 want to come on that land be be a part of the "Synagogue Unto Satan"
 that you are building there for the Bill Clinton Murders of the
 Children of Waco.

 I will be unarmed, because my God is enough of a protector from the
 EVIL you and the KKK spread. I will again raise the flag of Christ
 again against your flag that is soaked in the blood of the Children
 of the World. If you attack it again I will defend it again...and
 again you will lose.

 I will be handing out flyers that state:

   X XX

 The Abomination That Maketh Desolate
  The foundation of this "church" was laid on the Sabbath by
  Clive Doyle
  This is a violation of the Laws of God and a Slander of the
Martyrs

  *Now that you know "DO NOT" enter it or support it*

 For more information about the current government control of
 New Jerusalem
   Contact Andrew "The Watchman"  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.public-action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum/index.html


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Re: [CTRL] ReichstagFire.CoM

2000-03-07 Thread Damian B. Cooper

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At 05:08 PM 3/7/00 -0600, Alamaine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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{{Begin}}
ReichstagFire.Com
by Wendy McElroy

A few weeks after Hitler became Chancellor of Germany, the parliament building
in Berlin -- the Reichstag -- was set ablaze. Hitler used public hysteria over
the fire to suspend constitutional liberties and eliminate opponents. Most
historians blame the Nazis themselves for the fire that so conveniently
cemented their power.

I am not a conspiracy theorist, although conspiracies undoubtedly exist.

I believe it was none other than Franklin D. Roosevelt who said:

"Nothing in politics happens by accident".

DBC

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Re: [CTRL] Finding racial problems

2000-03-07 Thread Damian B. Cooper

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At 07:11 AM 3/7/00 -0800, Tenorlove [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I've been all over the US and the only places I've personally
encountered any kind of major racial strife were California and New
Jersey. In California, I'm sure economics has something to do with it,
and New Jersey is too crowded, which apparently justifies all kinds of
rude behavior.
__

The reason you encournter racial strife in California is because
California is a society where neo-Bolshevik politicians are dominant.

Neo-Bolsheviks are obsessed with power, and their fundamental
modus operandi is "divisionism".   If there is a way to create
a division in a society and encourage factions to attack one another,
the neo-Bolsheviks will support it and exploit it.  When everyone
in a society is focused on their anger and hostility to another
group, then the neo-Bolsheviks can pander to the raw, blind
emotions of the most inflamed group and use that as a means
to enhance their "popularity" to the point of winning elections
without ever having their motives or real agenda examined.

Race is one of the most irrational, emotion laden topics of the
political landscape.  Everyone has a race.  The most ignorant
and easily manipulated elements of society can be easily
convinced that all of their problems and personal inadequacies
can be attributed to someone else "hating them because of their
race".

The neo-Bolsheviks have invested every element of their being
in exacerbating and exploiting racial hostility.  They think
about race morning, noon, and night, and interpret every
aspect of ancient and modern life as conditioned by race.

They have become expert at the racialist innuendo and have
developed and popularized an idiosyncratic vocabulary which
infuses their racialist thinking and racialist agenda in virtually
every forum of mass communication.  People are constantly
exposed to terms like: "affirmative action" (a code word for racial
discrimination
that is politically acceptable); "minority rights" ( term that implies
that "minorities" have different rights that "majorities"; "white racism"
(a term which is used to the total exclusion of its logical and
actual converse, "people of color racism"; etc. etc. etc.

Bottom line:  the reason that there is racial strife in California
is because the dominant political faction in California
benefits from racial strife and encourages it.

DBC

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[CTRL] NSA's Snooper Bugs?

2000-03-07 Thread K

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NSA's Snooper Bugs?
By Robert M. Collins
http://home.sprintmail.com/~rigoletto/reports/nsa_snooper_bugs.ht
m
2-17-2000


UPDATE
The NSA's Snooper Bugs



Last October, 1999, one of my sources found a small black stubby
device attached to the phone lines going to his computer at work:
He
also found

one
of these devices attached to the phone lines on the outside of his
father's house in Albuquerque. Since my source has excellent
connections to people in the state of New Mexico he was able to
verify
the identity of two NSA people who had moved into an apartment
down
the street from his father's house.

As
soon as those NSA people knew they had been identified they
"flew the
coop" as they say. Source's own NSA people have look at at these
stubby devices and said they were made by NSA. The devices are
short ~
2 inches long and black with a small antenna, having two lady size
wristwatch batteries and two wires with alligator clips to attach to a
phone line (see figure at bottom): The device transmits in a
frequency
range of 1.4 to 4 MHz and has a range of

one
mile where the signal is received by a local receiving station. The
obvious question would be why NSA et al go through all the trouble
of
planting phone bugs when there are so many other ways to
intercept
email or phone calls: The answer I was given is that it's much easier
to have a dedicated "tap" rather than try and sort through thousands
of emails or phone calls to find yours and then to formally request
that information. The dedicated "tap" goes right to the people who
want the information. Please see NSA Phone Tap for the

time
in 1998 when we traced the "tap" on the home phone line in
Tucson, Az
all the way back to NSA at Ft Meade.




--
Kathleen

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and pursued unalterably through every change of ministers too plainly proves a 
deliberate,
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Re: [CTRL] Thatcher linked to spy order on ministers

2000-03-07 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 03/04/2000 1:15:12 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 NEW YORK, Feb 24 (Reuters) - Former British Prime Minister Margaret
Thatcher
 used a global surveillance network to spy on two cabinet ministers in 1983,
former
 Canadian agent Mike Frost was quoted on Thursday as saying. 

This ECHELON stuff is a real hoot.  Maggie and other things are mentioned in
Christopher Hitchens article in the latest (Mar 20,2000) issue of THE NATION.
 What is hilarious is the part where they've been denying for weeks that
there's been any industrial/commercial spying, but it seems the NSA monitored
all traffic between European Airbus Consortium and Saudi Arabian Airlines to
help get the $6 billion Saudi contract for Boeing and McDonnell-Douglas.  Oh
well, what are friends for?  Prudy

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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Tuesday #1

2000-03-07 Thread Ric Carter

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SkeptiNews 000307a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

* Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
* PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh?
* Portal to notices, excuses, overflow, links: http://skepticon.pitas.com
* No holy cells were extracted and cloned to produce this bulletin. Damn.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ That Tickles: http://www.srv.net/~bhw/photo.htm
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Large UFO Lands Near Village In West Maylasia. TANAH MERAH, KELANTAN: A
  large object emitting rays of light was reported to have landed on a piece
  of marshland here three days ago, holding some 1,000 people of Kampung
  Gobek in a state of high suspense. http://www.sightings.com/ufo6/mal.htm
# Rectangular UFO: Boyne I., Queensland: http://www.caus.org/ft030600.htm

@ UFOs and The New Physics: http://www.stardrive.org/ufos.shtml
@ The Starship Builders: http://www.stardrive.org/starship.shtml
# UFOs in Arizona - or Black Helicopters? http://www.caus.org/mu030700.htm
# MULTINATIONAL FORCE SPREADS ACROSS MOZAMBIQUE - black helicopters harvest
  flood victims:  http://CNN.com/2000/WORLD/africa/03/07/africa.floods.02/

: Have UFOs / Black Helis / Giant Triangles harvested your community lately?
Why did they leave you? Are you less than appetizing? Are you vegetarian? Do
you eat garlic? Do ETs harvest many garlic-eaters? Are vampires really ETs?

@ Why Are There More Questions Than Answers? Throughout recorded history,
  non human life forms have interacted with humans. These beings come from
  different places. Some are clearly ET and have stated so. Some are other
  dimensional beings that have bridged gaps between dimensions. Others have
  been speculated as being time travelers. Evidence indicates beings inhabit
  underground facilities on our planet. http://www.caus.org/mc030700.htm
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Frozen Prehistoric 'Zoo' In Siberian Ice. Scientists have located a
  frozen "zoo" of prehistoric creatures under the Siberian permafrost.
   www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/00/03/05/stinwenws03011.html?999
# Bringing The Mammoth Back To Life - excavate the frozen remains, thaw 
  clone the tissues: http://foxnews.com/science/030300/times_mammoth.sml

# Tests Said to Link Turin Shroud to Israel, Jordan. MILAN, Italy (Reuters)
  New scientific tests on the Shroud of Turin, revered by some Christians
  as Christ's burial shroud, link the relic to the area of Israel or Jordan,
  a church committee said. What, no Levantine relic-forgers? Let's clone
  Jesus now: http://news.excite.com/news/r/000306/18/science-italy-shroud

: Would'ya rather clone mammoths, dinosaurs, deities, me? Suppose you cloned
a deity and it destroyed the world? Suppose it didn't? Would you rather have
kids/clones/chimerae with genes from mammoths, Jesus, dinosaurs, me? Why??

# Public-Private Genome-Mapping Coalition Falls Apart - cloning setback:
  http://news.excite.com/news/r/000306/17/science-genome-coalition
# Japan Readying Law To Ban Human Cloning - even at a research level:
  http://news.excite.com/news/r/000306/22/science-japan-cloning2
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# DESTRUCTION, NEGLECT AND PILLAGE: Archeological treasures in Afghanistan
  have been massively damaged and destroyed after years of civil war. Damn
  the Taliban: http://www.allemandi.com/TAN/news/article.asp?idart=1033
@ Do we live in a world glutted with brands  billboards? Naw; that's
  only where we shop: http://www.laweekly.com/ink/00/15/wls-lloyd.shtml
  And see http://www.mediachannel.org/views/oped/seabrook.shtml or else.
@ It's not nostalgia that upsets you when they bulldoze your childhood
  sledding hill. It's seeing the hill replaced by a suburban parody of
  Leave It to Beaver: http://www.feedmag.com/feature/fr298_master.html

: Has your culture been outlawed, revived, marketed, bulldozed, parodied? Is
your culture all-devouring, mutable, resilient, flexible, protected, French?

# The Maori Art of Moko. Moko -- the traditional body and facial tattooing
  of the Maori people of New Zealand -- was lost for centuries. After the
  British colonized New Zealand in the 18th century, moko, as well as many
  other aspects of Maori culture, were outlawed. But in past few decades,
  Maoris have rediscovered their traditions and the tattoos once again are
  becoming popular. http://www.npr.org/ramfiles/me/2301.me.15.ram
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# China Ups Military Spending - increased to record levels - is it enough?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/asia-pacific/newsid_667000/667352.stm
# Analysis: China's Military Thinks Long-Term - but are they competitive?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/asia-pacific/newsid_667000/667559.stm

# CHINESE GENERAL SAYS WESTERN FORCES TRYING TO SPLIT CHINA. A senior
  Chinese general, in what could be considered a veiled jab at the United
  States, has accused outside "enemy" forces of 

[CTRL] Finding racial problems

2000-03-07 Thread Tenorlove

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I've been all over the US and the only places I've personally
encountered any kind of major racial strife were California and New
Jersey. In California, I'm sure economics has something to do with it,
and New Jersey is too crowded, which apparently justifies all kinds of
rude behavior.
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Re: [CTRL] Echoes of Silent Assent, Part 2.

2000-03-07 Thread Don Huffman

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Gentlemen:

Can we not see that the "soup" we are in can not be cleared by political
means?  Yes, it is important that we fight back against the diabolical
forces that beset us.  It is more important to fight a spiritual battle
against the Foe.  Heaven has its own peace plan.  Have you heard of
Fatima and Medjugorjie?  Probably not.  Yet everyone knows who
Father Porter is, don't they?


Sincerely,


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[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Miami, late 80s

2000-03-07 Thread Kris Millegan





From: Mark Keesee [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Linda Ives and Jean Duffey's Most

Perhaps someone will recall something on a couple of FBI agents
that were in Miami in the late 80s. We know nothing about these
guys except they are in Arkansas now and they are a pain in the
ass. They have without question run interference for the government
regarding the deaths of Kevin Ives and Don Henry and probably did
the same regarding Iran-Contra in Miami. Some might say it's just
a coincidence that these two guys ended up in Little Rock but we
don't think so. Linda can list a 100 similar coincidences.

Any information would be appreciated.

mark
...
FBI Miami #1

I.C. SMITH
SMITH was SAC of the Arkansas FBI from July 31, 1995 til
his abrupt retirement July 24, 1998 [
http://www.idmedia.com/ic-smith-retires.htm ].
We learned from the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette that SMITH
was ASAC of the Miami bureau in 1986 [
http://www.idmedia.com/smith-miami-asac.htm ].
(See: http://www.idmedia.com/enemy-no-1.htm)

FBI Miami #2

WILLIAM TEMPLE
Note: Mara [The Boys on the Tracks] Leveritt has not been
able to verify that Arkansa's current ASAC WILLIAM TEMPLE
and the WILLIAM TEMPLE in the following excerpt are the
same person - but she has verified that he was in Miami
in 1987.

=

Excerpt from:

George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography --- by Webster G.
Tarpley  Anton Chaitkin

Chapter -XX- The Phony War on Drugs
.

In May or June of 1987, several months after Aronow had been
killed, Mike Brittain, who owned a company called Aluminum
Marine Products, located on "Thunderboat Alley" in the northern
part of Miami (the same street where Aronow had worked), was
approached by two FBI special agents, Joseph Usher and John
Donovan, both of the Miami FBI field office. They were
accompanied by a third FBI man, whom they presented as a member
of George Bush's staff at the National Drug Task Force in
Washington DC. The third agent, reportedly named WILLIAM
TEMPLE, had, according to the other two, come to Miami on a special
mission ordered by the Vice President of the United States.

As Brittain told his story to Burdick, Special Agent TEMPLE
"didn't ask about the murder or anything like that. All he
wanted to know about was the merger." [fn 12] The merger in
question was the assumption of control over Aronow's company,
USA Racing, by the Kramers' Super Chief South, which meant that
a key contract in the Bush "war on drugs" had been awarded to a
company controlled by persons who would later be convicted for
marijuana smuggling and money laundering. Many of the FBI
questions focussed on this connection between Aronow and Kramer.
Later, after Bush's victory in the 1988 presidential election,
the FBI again questioned Brittain, and again the central issue
was the Aronow-Kramer connection, plus additional questions of
whether Brittain had divulged any of his knowledge of these
matters to other persons. A possible conclusion was that a
damage control operation in favor of Bush was in progress.
-

fn 12. Blue Thunder, pp. 326-327

end excerpt --

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Excerpt from the manuscript of  "The Boys On The Tracks"

On November 29, ten days after the discovery of the Saline
County evidence in Holly DuVall’s condominium, Linda and Larry
drove to an office complex in west Little Rock to meet with
agent Cournan. Also attending the meeting was Agent WILLIAM
TEMPLE, the second-in-command at the Little Rock FBI office.
Linda had had almost no contact with the Cournan since the
anniversary of Kevin’s death when she reported finding the
police toys at the cemetery. Finally, she had called to request
a meeting to learn where the investigation stood. When the four
had assembled in TEMPLE’s office, another man, who was
introduced as a bureau lawyer, joined them.

TEMPLE began, “I think I know why you’re here,” he said, “but
why don’t you go ahead and tell me anyway.” To Linda, he seemed
arrogant, almost flip.

She replied, “We want to know the status of the case.” Referring
to her notes, she read aloud Agent Finch’s comment in February
1994, that if she would just sit back and let the FBI do its
job, the case would be solved by the end of the year. Looking
up, she told the agents, “Well, it’s the end of 1995.”

TEMPLE’s response almost knocked Linda out of her chair. He told
her and Larry that the FBI had not been able to find any
evidence pointing to murder.

“There is no evidence,” he said.

Linda stared at him in amazement.

TEMPLE coolly added, “It might be time for you to consider that
a crime was not committed.”

Larry was quiet. Linda could feel herself begin to shake. For
nearly two years, Cournan had been telling her and Jean Duffey
that the investigation was going well; that, in fact, its focus
was on law enforcement officers. Now, with Cournan at his side,
TEMPLE was telling them this. Not only was the investigation
over but she and Larry were hearing TEMPLE tell them the 

[CTRL] FEDERAL LAND GRAB in Ohio

2000-03-07 Thread lloyd

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..

From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]:
Conspiracy Shopping Cart: http://a-albionic.com/shopping.html

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FEDERAL LAND GRAB in Ohio
Date: Friday, March 03, 2000 12:57 PM

Dear Patriots:

FYI: Another worthy cause (v. a UN Biosphere) I would hope that you would
support at least in prayer.

Scott

From Rick Wiles (another saint) @ A HREF="http://www.americashope.com/"AMERI
CA'S HOPE/A http://www.americashope.com/

FARMERS FIGHT 50,000 ACRE
FEDERAL LAND GRAB

12 year old testifies before Senate;
tries to save her family's home
By Matthew Mittan, The Asheville Tribune

The United States Fish and Wildlife Service has announced it's desire to
create a fifty-three thousand acre wildlife refuge, much to the chagrin of
local residents. Federal officials have targeted, for their refuge, some of
the best farmland in the United States, land that has been farmed by some of
the same families for two hundred years.

Residents opposed to the federal land designation say that the proposed
refuge would dispossess hundreds of families and transform a productive
agricultural economy into a non-productive service economy.

The people of Madison and Union counties in Ohio are overwhelmingly opposed
to the proposal. But that has not slowed the federal agencies from pursuing
the land.

Due to that fact, two local grassroots groups, Stewards of the Darby (SOD)
and Citizens Against Refuge Proposal (CARP) are at the forefront of the land
rights battle. Through these groups, local residents drafted a Declaration
entitled "Our Land Is Our Responsibility" which reads in part, "We, the
residents of the area publicized as the "Darby Prairie National Wildlife
Refuge Study Area" want our voices heard! We, who live and work in this
farming community, believe the impact to area businesses would jeopardize
their very existence. The Madison County Auditor's Office projects the
affected region generates $300 per acre, which turns over 6-7 times (in
buying power) before leaving the community. This translates into a potential
deficit of $90 million dollars to our area businesses.

"[Additionally,] United States Representative Ralph S. Regula asserts: 'It is
simply irresponsible to take on new land responsibilities, and give grants to
cities, States and private institutions, when we cannot afford to adequately
take care of our primary Federal responsibilities - the public lands.'

"The State Forest Department manages and protects 7.1 million acres of forest
land in Ohio, for the benefit of all Ohio citizens. One hundred eighty one
thousand acres of State-owned forest land are available for multiple
benefits, including wildlife, recreation, timber products, and soil and water
protection. In addition, there are 72 State Parks in Ohio where the public
can interact with nature at its leisure. With this great abundance of parks
and wildlife areas, all supported by our tax dollars, is there really a need
for more public land?

"Actual area land auctions show that a 500-acre farm is worth $1.5 million
dollars. To this initial cost, add a reasonably priced home at a cost of
$85,000, and minimal equipment at approximately $641,000, and the combined
start-up cost totals $2.226 MILLION DOLLARS. After committing to an
investment of such magnitude, why would our astute, agriculturally- and
family-minded farmers want to sell?

"In the case of the proposed Darby Prairie National Wildlife Refuge, most of
the 53,692 acres is land that has been acquired by our farmers over many
generations. This "ownership endurance" enables us to continue our
conservation-accredited farming skills, thus growing with our investments. At
an average of 4.5 persons per home, this equates to the possible residential
displacement of over 7,500 people from the Study Area alone, with a loss of
approximately 4,000 taxpayers to the community. We have a proven track record
of providing Americans with a diversity of products in the global
marketplace, with a combination of wheat, corn, and soybeans; there would be
a loss of over 3 million bushels of grain from the Study Area!

"With well over 50,000 acres lost to food production, how many non-farmers
would be willing to relinquish their combined homes and yards to replace the
fertile soil that presently feeds so many, that would be permanently lost by
the introduction of a National Wildlife Refuge? At some point, we will no
longer have the abundance of high-quality, reasonably priced food that we now
take for granted at our supermarkets.

"The growing of food to nourish our citizens is certainly as much a
consideration as re-establishing a tall grass prairie. Eating is not going to
go out of style, and we are not willingly going to yield our bountiful land
to either developers or Federal Agencies who say they are 'protecting us'
from 

Re: [CTRL] radioforchange.com

2000-03-07 Thread Kris Millegan

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/A -Cui Bono?-

Jim, We all must understand that the perfidy hits both "sides" and was
especially created for that very effect. My research has shown the whole
Jewish/German issue was "picked" as an Hegelian dialectic framework for the
schemes of the "powers-that-be" in the 1700s.  Most players even many
"elites" are hoodwinked as are many of us hoi polloi into various
controllable factions.

Rather than having a zionist -led conspiracy, one uncovers more of a
highjacking of certain apsects by another group which does includes jewish
elements and then starts the manipulations that led to today. But these
manipulations exposed—make no less the tragedy visited upon us hoipolloi,
either by hoodwinked warriors or murdered marginilized humanity in a
holocaust. Yes, there have been many other'holocausts' and they continue, but
at least they are being discussed.

And this same "powers-that-be" have created many organizations that have good
and bad aspects for the hegelian affectations upon our culture and pysches.
And I am more interested in that what we hoi polloi have in common than in
those emotional tugs that the "powers-that-be" like to use to divide us.

The books you mentioned are highly recommened for understanding our times.
The is even more to the show than the script, there is the theatre, props,
gaffers, lights, producers, directors, etc and even an audience.

MHO
Om
K

In a message dated 3/6/00 10:28:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

-Caveat Lector-

 -Cui Bono?-



Dear Dave or Bob,



First of all, everyone should know that Working Assets is the evil phone

company which brags about giving 1% of its customers phone bills to

baby-killing Planned Parenthood, the anti-Christian network's legal arm,
the

ACLU, -- and the sodomite / homosexual lobby. I'd bet they censor out any

worthwile causes the pet degeneracies. From their the e-mail from, I guess

Bob, degenerated to disinformation. The Irving Trial is a libel suit against

Deborah Lipstadt who is one of those "Shoah Business" Professional Holocaust

Hollering Holies who believe that they can violate truth, cover up facts,

and call anybody anything they want --- and Irving called her on her slander

and libel. Some of her defenders who appeared on the CNN 15 minute piece

that appeared a few weeks ago on CNN's SUnday night 9 PM program --  wailed

that "in England you have to prove what you say" or something to that

effect. GOOD! It's only the crooked case that allowed the New York Times
to

slander Sullivan years ago which allows todays deporable big media to

slander people mercilessly (like Pat Buchanan) without getting sued. Anyway,

Irving is NOT a Holocaust denier, i.e. does not deny that there were

deplorable wide scale massacres of Jews during WWII in Nazi territories)
--

there were, and the Zionist leadership was cooperating with Hitler to help

bring some of it about (see The Transfer Agreement by Jewish Author Edwin

Black from Amazon.com, and "Zionism in the Age of Dictators" which is on
the

web in toto if you punch the title into a search engine, to name just a
FEW

sources -- but Irving wants some historical balance brought to the debate.

For instance, he didn't say that Auschwitz was Disneyland, he said it was
a

kind of macabre Disneyland, i.e. built to be a tourist attraction. That's

right, built. And if you don't know that informed observers on all sides

admit that the buildings on display of Auschwitz, in all essentials, have

been built since the end of World War II. The writings of Robert Faurrison,

a French socialist who just couldn't stomach the falsehoods being told
by

the Holocaust lobby for political and financial gain, just prove this beyond

any shadow of a doubt, but quoting from anti-revisionist scholars,

historians, and participants in the discussion who are disgusted with damage

that the Auschwitz display are doing to their cause as the word leaks out.

And the Irving Trial has put it on front and center stage world wide. Anyone

interested will be able to get ahold of the transcripts on the internet
or

elsewhere now, or at least evenutally. Finally, it's funny to see unconcious

"fascists" like Dave or Bob or both blowing a gasket over the elected

officials like those in Jorg Haider's "far right" party ... uh, ... it's
OK

to intimidate elected officials out of office if you don't like their "far

right" politics. YES, to the unconscious (or conscous?) fascists like Dave

or Bob or both -- it is. And they don't seem to be concerned with their

seething contradictions -- OR they do see them and are so d#%$ arrogant
that

they don't care --- which is why its just great to Irving exposing these

blowhards worldwide. Incidentally, Holocaust is a burnt offering, the little

Jews betrayed into the Nazi pincers movement by the Zionists were the

Holocaust  -- the burnt offering for the greater cause of scaring other

eveyday Jews out of Europe and down to 

Re: [CTRL] Waco Protest Today!

2000-03-07 Thread ali andrew

-Caveat Lector-   A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"
/A -Cui Bono?-

This was probably your attitude seven years ago when the "Bill Clinton
Murderers of The Children of Waco" were torturing men women and Babies
because they would not submit to the illegitimate authority of
Babylon.. as you have.

Andrew


-Original Message-
From: Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 7:06 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Waco Protest Today!


-Caveat Lector-   A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"
/A -Cui Bono?-

3/5/00

I wish that religion could produce as prodigious a supply of fresh
clean water, as well as it produces such an overflowing of lunatics.

Joshua2
=
 ali andrew wrote:

In The Name of God Most Gracious Most Merciful

 An Open Letter to "Clive Doyle"

 I am coming to New Jerusalem (Mt.Carmel) to declare the"Truth" about
 the crimes that you are committing against the Martyrs and against
 the laws of God.

 I will not trespass on the property, because as I said on November
 28,1999 when you had me arrested for speaking the Truth, "I don't
 want to come on that land be be a part of the "Synagogue Unto Satan"
 that you are building there for the Bill Clinton Murders of the
 Children of Waco.

 I will be unarmed, because my God is enough of a protector from the
 EVIL you and the KKK spread. I will again raise the flag of Christ
 again against your flag that is soaked in the blood of the Children
 of the World. If you attack it again I will defend it again...and
 again you will lose.

 I will be handing out flyers that state:

   X XX

 The Abomination That Maketh Desolate
  The foundation of this "church" was laid on the Sabbath by
  Clive Doyle
  This is a violation of the Laws of God and a Slander of the
Martyrs

  *Now that you know "DO NOT" enter it or support it*

 For more information about the current government control of
 New Jerusalem
   Contact Andrew "The Watchman"  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.public-action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum/index.html


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[CTRL] American Dispatches - Bush-McCain brawl

2000-03-07 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://www.americandispatches.com/
Click Here: A HREF="http://www.americandispatches.com/"American Dispatches/
A
-
The bitter primary battle between Gov. George W. Bush and Sen. John McCain
has opened rifts inside the influential conservative pundit community,
antagonisms that could undercut the Right's ability to rally voters in the
fall.

Vast conservative media spending over the past quarter century has given the
Republicans a powerful club to bludgeon Democrats. [See detailed article from
last summer at Consortiumnews.com]

But the Bush-McCain brawl has led key conservative writers to take up sides:
the neo-conservative likes of Charles Krauthammer on McCain's side and the
populist conservative likes of Rush Limbaugh on Bush's.

The battle lines were apparent on the eve of the Super Tuesday primaries as
two heavyweight conservative columnists -- William Safire and Robert D. Novak
-- threw punches in opposite directions.

Safire berated Bush's supporters, including Bob Jones III ("cringing in the
spotlight placed on his university's racism by John McCain") and Bush-family
moneymen, the Wyly brothers ("'Wyly Coyote' struck with a last-minute TV
smear" about McCain's environmental record, Safire wrote).
Safire also directly chastised the pink-ribbon-wearing Bush for an attack ad
painting McCain as hostile to breast cancer research. ("Bush approved what
hardball connoisseurs will remember as his 'breast cancer deception'," Safire
wrote. NYT, March 6, 2000)

Meanwhile, Novak was hammering away at McCain for damaging Republican
prospects in the nation's most populous state, California. Noting McCain's
decision to appear via TV monitor at last Thursday's GOP debate, Novak wrote,
"That strange tableau could cast a long shadow on politics in California and
the nation." (Washington Post, March 6, 2000)

In earlier columns, Novak excoriated McCain for his controversial decision to
lash out at Christian Right leaders, Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell.

As the Republican primaries reach a decisive phase, the powerful conservative
media may have as much mending to do for the fall election as will the forces
of Gov. Bush and Sen. McCain.
March 2, 2000

Texas Gov. George W. Bush is known as a hale-fellow-well-met, joshing with
voters on the campaign trail and winking at friends in the crowds. But
sometimes, he displays a mean, even scary, sense of humor.

On "Late Night" with David Letterman, Bush offered a tasteless quip about
Letterman's recent open-heart surgery. The joke followed Letterman's query
about what Bush meant by being "a uniter not a divider."

"That means when it comes time to sew up your chest cavity, we use stitches
as opposed to opening it up," Bush responded. The joke drew a chorus of boos
from the audience and a baffled look from Letterman.

On another occasion, Bush responded to a Letterman question with little more
than a grunt. When the comedian asked if Bush was tired of jokes about
failing a pop quiz on world leaders, Bush answered, "Nah," and stared into
the camera.

Bush did a little better with a self-deprecating line in which he announced:
"I've morphed on your show from a boob to a dweeb." The governor then held up
a T-shirt reading "Dweebs for Bush." [For details, see NYT, March 2, 2000]

Though it's understandable that long days of politicking could make anyone a
touch boorish and take an edge off one's sense of humor, Bush has revealed
this unfunny side of himself at less stressful junctures, too.

At the start of the campaign, conservative writer Tucker Carlson asked the
governor about the unsuccessful death-row plea from convicted murderer Karla
Faye Tucker. In response, Bush mimicked the doomed woman. "With pursed lips
in mock desperation, [Bush said] 'Please don't kill me'," Carlson wrote in
Talk magazine.

At another point, Bush lined up for a photo. He fingered the man next to him
and announced, "He's the ugly one!" [For more on Bush and his family's style
of politics, go to Consortiumnews.com]

For whatever reason, Gov. Bush is certainly making himself a contrast to
President Clinton, who is noted for his empathy and often mocked for his
famous line, "I feel your pain." By marked contrast, Gov. Bush often seems
oblivious to other people's pain.


For a double-take on  media and democracy, check out the American Review,
edited by Jane W. Prettyman, formerly at (the old) Esquire Magazine.

-
Aloha, He'Ping,
Om, Shalom, Salaam.
Em Hotep, Peace Be,
All My Relations.
Omnia Bona Bonis,
Adieu, Adios, Aloha.
Amen.
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[CTRL] Fwd: RE: [CIA-DRUGS] Chomsky, political economy and drug money

2000-03-07 Thread Kris Millegan




Title: Chomsky, political economy and drug money



From: 
Catherine Austin Fitts [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Brilliant post, David.

In my 
experience trying to teach people about what is happening is that they do not 
want to know. We want to elect officials who will do whatever it is that it 
takes to ensure our 50% of the worlds wealth and make us feel good about 
ourselves. We are willing to pay quite handsomely for the delusion. No one wants 
to risk transforming to a new model---that can only happen after the 
plunge.

Yet 
again, the American people prove that they are smarter than everyone thinks, 
except understanding quite how handsomely we are paying for the 
pretence.

Catherine

-Original Message-From: David Guyatt 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, March 
07, 2000 5:52 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: 
[CIA-DRUGS] Chomsky, political economy and drug 
moneyFrom: David Guyatt 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

When I last checked, the derivative 
market alone had somewhere close to $36 TRILLION outstanding (based on 
memory so may be out slightly). Derivatives ARE gambling - pure and 
simple. What this figure tells numerous analysts and economists is 
that the US economy is set for a major, major bust and that despite 
thebest efforts of the Plunge Protection Team to manpulate 
markets - they are eventually going to crash bigtime.

Iread Chomsky and rate him highly. 
I interviewed himabout 18 months ago with a focus on his perceptions 
about the origin of the cold war which he wrote about in WHAT UNCLE SAM 
REALLY WANTS. Chomsky agreed that the cold war was manufactured. 
The reason for this he explains in Uncle Samwas outlined in the top 
secret Policy Planning Study 23 (PPS 23) written by George Kennan. 
Chomsky abbreviates the core points of this study as follows:

 We [the USA] have about 
50% of the world's wealth, but only 6.3% of its populationIn this 
situation, we cannot fail to be the object of envy and resentment. Our real 
task in the coming period is to devise a pattern of relationships which will 
permit us to maintain this position of disparityTo do so, we will have 
to dispense with all sentimentality and day-dreaming; and our attention will 
have to be concentrated everywhere on our immediate national 
objectivesWe should cease to talk about vague and...unreal objectives 
such as human rights, the raising of the living standards, and 
democratization. The day is not far off when we are going to have to deal in 
straight power concepts. The less we are then hampered by idealistic 
slogans, the better. 

Keenan went on to outline the economic policy 
backdrop to South America which is relevant in terms of the later explosion 
of drugs coming out of that continent. According to Chomsky, Kennan's 
policy in South America was:

...In 
a briefing for US ambassadors to Latin American countries in 1950, Kennan 
observed that a major concern of US foreign policy must be the 
protection of our [i.e. Latin America's] raw materials. We must 
therefore combat a dangerous heresy which, US intelligence reported, was 
spreading through Latin America: the idea that the government has 
direct responsibility for the welfare of the people. 


The dismantling of the gold standard in 1971 by Nixon soon led to the 
explosion of the oil price via the so called oil shocks of 
1973. There is a host of facts that powerfully suggest this was also a 
manufactured event. Author William Engdahl in his excellent book 
A Century of War says that the decision to increase the price of 
oil by 400% (and blame it on OPEC) was taken at the May 1973 meeting of 
Bilderberg's Saltsjobaden conference. Reading the Saltsjobaden 
Conference notes supports Engdahl's contention. 

The key point in so far as the explosion of South American drug 
traffick is ocnerned, is the re-cycling of Middle East - principally Saudi - 
oil money (i.e., petrodollars) through the London Euromarketto the 
third world... largely South America and Africa of course. Quickly 
hocked up to their eye ballsin loans they didn't need or couldn't 
afford (but which fitted back-pockets very nicely) Sth American 
nations had to generate significant hard foreign currency reserves (US 
Dollars) to service their debt. Enter Cocaine and the secret policy to 
narcotize and tax large numbers of the population of the USA as a result of 
dealing in straight power concepts as Kennan stated.





- Original Message - 

From: 
Thomas 
Mountain 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 5:57 
AM
Subject: [CIA-DRUGS] Chomsky, 
political economy and drug money
From: 

[CTRL] Fwd: [Spy News] one last word on the Diallo travesty/focusing on the wrong fe...

2000-03-07 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

The real story isn't it?  Prudy



Hi all,
I just got this on another list, and as it is so utterly on the money, I
felt I had to forward it on.
Sorry about that Flyboy.
Peace, and be safe,
Preston

Not only did they fail to protect but they created the dangerous situation
that led to the perceived need to shoot.  So much attention has been given to
the few seconds during which the officers had to observe, Diallo's actions,
evaluate the threat, and decide to shoot or not shoot.  Then there is the
attention paid to the number of shots fired with some saying that 41 shots
was excessive at an average of 10.25 shots each.  Those who consistently
assert that the number of shots fired is irrelevant, argue that it takes only
about 2 to 4 seconds from the moment that they determine the need to shoot
and the point when they have fired the last of 41 shots.  Somewhere in that
argument is a supposed justification for firing enough rounds to drop a
grizzly bear.  For some reason the training that teaches officers that when
they make the determination to use deadly force they are to fire three rounds
at a time.  And why fire three?  Why not two or four?  Because the experts
who determine what will be taught at the academy say that if the officer must
shoot, then the technique that should be followed is to fire two rounds at
the upper body mass because there is a greater likelihood of hitting the
target, then fire a third shot to the head because of the increased
occurrence of criminals wearing body armor.  So the people who have the
experience and knowledge of research done on officer involved shootings to
determine what the most effective tactic is, have determine that the triple
tap is what the academy should teach and what the officer should do in the
field.  So it would seem that the number of shots fired is relevant to the
experts.  Why street cops feel that they know better.  If the officers who
shot Diallo had followed policy then based upon an average of 10.25 shots
each these officers would have each fired a volley of three rounds at Diallo
(that's 12 shots total), then still determined that the object in his hand
was a dun and that he was still making a furtive movement that threatened the
officers so they each fired another volley of three rounds each (that's
another 12 shots total), then observed Diallo and again determined that the
object in his hand was a gun, and that Diallo was still making furtive
movements that threatened the officers, so they each proceeded to fire
another volley of three shots each (that's another 12 shots total), then
observed Diallo and determined that he was still holding a gun in his hand
and that he was still making furtive movements toward the officers caused
them to feel fear for their lives so three of them fired one final shot but
the fourth felt he should fire two more shots (that's 5 more shots total.
Now we are to believe that these officers, if they followed the tactics
taught to them, determined that the object in Diallo's hand was a gun and
that Diallo was making furtive movements before they shot him, then after 12
shots, then again after 24 shots, then again after 36 shots but only enough
threat to justify 1 or 2 more shots.  I have difficulty buying the argument
that these officers were following department policy or their training.  It
has been postulated on this list that when police officers are placed in
emergency situations where they do not have time to think that their training
kicks in.  That would mean that Diallo continued to posturer and move in a
threatening manner after 12, 24, 36 shots with about 6 then 12, then 18
rounds striking his body.  Yea, this slight built man continued to make
furtive movements after 5 bullets struck his body, the still after 12 bullets
ripped into him, and then still made movements that made the officers fear
for their lives after he had taken 16 to 18 hunks of metal measuring about a
third of an inch wide each into his body.  Anyone really believe that this
little man continued the present a threat to the officers after being shot
14, 15, 16, 17, times?  Remember the cops may have thought the wallet was a
gun, but Diallo knew that he had no chance of frightening the cops away or
stopping the shooting other than to fall down.  But he continued to present a
threat with more than a dozen bullets striking him?  I don;t buy it.

But these arguments all address what happened after the officers came rushing
into the darkened entrance of Diallo's apartment building with their guns
drawn.  With Diallo having no reason to expect four armed men to come rushing
at him at his home, he could be expected to react in any number of
unpredictable ways.  There has been all this discussion about how Diallo
reacted and how he should not have moved in he manner he did.  And there has
been all this defense of the officers actions because they had only seconds
to react.  But what about Diallo?  The police knew that they were rushing

[CTRL] In Search of the AMERICAN Drug Lords

2000-03-07 Thread Kris Millegan

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from;
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In America everyone's heard the names of the COLOMBIAN drug lords, whose
cocaine and heroin have flooded our nation... names like Pablo Escobar, Jorge
Ochoa, Carlos Lehder, Juan Matta Ballesteros... But here's a HUGE question
that's never even ASKED: Who are the AMERICAN drug lords? MadCowProductions
announces the release on video of a new TV documentary that could affect
voter's decisions in the Presidential contest of the year 2000... "In Search
of the AMERICAN Drug Lords" is an hour-long show filled with eyewitness
testimony and startling revelations answering questions ducked by Ken Starr's
Whitewater probe that have been dogging America ever since the Mena drug
scandal broke. Based on the new--and so far being "held back"-- book, "Barry
and 'the boys,'" it is the result of a 3-year long investigation into the
life and times of the most successful drug smuggler in American history, as
well as one of the most famous CIA agents who ever lived, Barry Seal. Could
Barry Seal really have been involved with everyone from Republican Attorney
General Ed Meese... to Democratic National Chairman Charles Manatt... to Al
Gore's current campaign chairman, Tony Coelho? Why did then-Arkansas Attorney
General William Clinton sign a "get-out-of-jail-free" personal recognizance
bond for Barry Seal after he had been jailed for drug smuggling in Mena? What
is the suspicious link between Barry Seal and the Bush Family that allowed
George W. Bush to regularly fly in a plane from Seal's drug smuggling fleet
after Seal's murder? In Search of The American Drug Lords "A rollercoaster
ride to the Dark Side."

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Spy vs. Spy


CIA Lawyer Stonewalls Over Deutch


Hey, mom, can I take home some secrets too?

The former top lawyer for the CIA is to appear before the Senate Select
Committee on Intelligence today but will decline to answer questions about
his role in a security investigation of former CIA Director John Deutch.

Michael O'Neil will not answer questions from the panel until the Justice
Department completes its review of whether CIA officials acted improperly in
handling the investigation of Mr. Deutch, Roger Spaeder, an attorney for Mr.
O'Neil, said in an interview.

A Senate aide said the former CIA general counsel is expected to invoke his
Fifth Amendment rights during the closed-door hearing. The amendment allows
people to avoid answering questions that could lead to their prosecution.

Mr. Spaeder said the committee recently asked Mr. O'Neil whether he would
cooperate with the investigation if granted immunity from prosecution.

"That's for the committee to decide," Mr. Spaeder said. "We are not seeking
immunity and are not bargaining for immunity."

The committee and the Justice Department are examining whether senior CIA
officials, including Director George J. Tenet, covered up a security probe of
Mr. Deutch in late 1996 and 1997.

CIA security personnel discovered in December 1996, shortly after Mr. Deutch
retired, that he had improperly stored several dozen highly sensitive
intelligence and defense documents on home computers.

The computers were not secure and had been used to access "high-risk"
Internet sites by a member of Mr. Deutch's family, according to a CIA
inspector general report.

 The CIA is making a damage assessment of whether its secrets were
compromised, including covert-action programs. The Pentagon is still deciding
whether to defense secrets were lost. Officials said the defense information
included details of special-access programs, "black programs" that are among
the most sensitive secrets.

According to the CIA report, Mr. O'Neil refused to turn over four computer
storage cards to investigators for several weeks and discussed destroying the
data on them with Mr. Deutch.
He also failed to make a formal notification to the Justice Department of the
security breach that included possible violations of U.S. laws. Mr. O'Neil
notified the FBI but not its parent agency.

The CIA report said the delay in notifying Justice officials precluded the
appointment of an independent counsel because the one-year statute of
limitations had expired by the time a formal "crimes report" was sent to
Justice by the CIA inspector general in 1998.
The CIA report said that Mr. O'Neil "had conversations over a period of
several weeks" with Mr. Tenet, the deputy director at the time, Nora Slatkin,
the CIA executive director, and Richard Calder, the CIA administration chief,
about "exploitation" of the computer cards by security personnel and
"protecting Deutch's privacy."

Mr. Tenet failed to inform the House and Senate intelligence committees about
the matter for some 18 months. He has given no explanation for the lapse.

Mr. Tenet failed to notify the Senate panel even though he promised the
committee in 1997 during his nomination hearing to keep senators fully
informed of all intelligence activities.
Investigators also want to question Mr. O'Neil about his handling of a CIA
contract with Mr. Deutch. The no-fee contract allowed Mr. Deutch to
continuing using the CIA-supplied home computers after he retired.

Investigators suspect the contract was part of a scheme to prevent CIA
security officials from finding the improperly stored classified documents.

Asked about the allegations, Mr. Spaeder said: "As to whether Mr. O'Neil
intentionally engaged in any activities to cover up, I can assure you we
emphatically deny that," Mr. Spaeder said. "He did not engage in any conduct,
intentionally or unintentionally to obstruct the investigation."

Mr. O'Neil initially had agreed to testify before the committee March 1 but
backed out after Attorney General Janet Reno announced the Justice Department
would reviewing the case.
Senate intelligence committee Chairman Sen. Richard C. Shelby rejected Mr.
O'Neil's written refusal to testify and is demanding that the former CIA
lawyer appear before the committee, the Senate aide said.

"If O'Neil wants to decline to testify, he has to do it in person, " he said.
The Washington Times, March 7, 2000
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[CTRL] Fwd: [AFIB] Where the 'New Age' meets the Third Reich

2000-03-07 Thread nessie

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RESEARCH SUPPLEMENT
- March 7, 2000 -

* * *


Where The New Age Meets The Third Reich:
DAVID ICKE AND THE POLITICS OF MADNESS


By Will Offley, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- February 29, 2000 -

On Sunday, March 19th, British conspiracy theorist David Icke will be
speaking all day at the Vogue Theatre, 918 Granville Street in Vancouver.
Icke's politics are a very weird blend of New Age guru, anti-Semitism and
neofascism. He is also antichoice.

Icke's background, politics and connections show there is an urgent need
for the pro-choice and women's mevements to join forces with the Jewish
community, gays and lesbians, people of colour, the left and all other
communities under threat by the far right. The backgrounder below should
give a fair picture of what Icke stands for, and who supports him.

* * *

On the face of it, few people would credit a retired soccer player who
rants about a world takeover by blood-drinking lizards from outer space as
being much of a threat to democracy. And as a general rule, they would
probably be right.

David Icke, however, is an exception to that rule.

Icke, 48, is a native of Leicester, England. For five years he played
professionally for the Coventry City and Hereford United soccer teams until
forced to retire by arthritis. He subsequently went on to become a sports
announcer for BBC-TV. For three years from 1988 to 1991 he was national
spokesperson for the British Green Party, until he began a political
evolution that was to begin with his expulsion from the Greens and wind up
with his current involvement with anti-Semitism, neofascism, and lizards
from Mars.

At first this evolution seemed relatively harmless. Icke began to flirt
seriously with New Age theories, and then began to act on them. He dressed
in turquoise, and began to call himself the "son of godhead". But by the
time his book "The Robot's Rebellion" was printed in 1994, his trajectory
had begun to take quite a different course. In 1996, the British magazine
"Left Green Perspectives" wrote that this book "indicated a convergence of
New Age thinking with Nazi philosophy. Casting aside his pat concerns about
the environment, Icke enthusiastically embraced the classic Nazi conspiracy
theory, alleging that the world is controlled by a secret cadre of "The
Elite." He openly endorsed The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, the Tsarist
anti-Semitic forgery that informed Hitler's notion of a global Jewish
conspiracy."

The following year Icke brought out another book, "And the truth shall set
you free." This one, however, was self-published, as its content was so
objectionable that his publisher refused to have it printed. And small
wonder. The book repeated Icke's previous claims that the Protocols were
true, and went on to state: "I strongly believe that a small Jewish clique
which has contempt for the mass of Jewish people worked with non-Jews to
create the First World War, the Russian Revolution, and the Second World
WarThey then dominated the Versailles Peace Conference and created the
circumstances which made the Second World War inevitable. They financed
Hitler to power in 1933 and made the funds available for his rearmament."

In this book, Icke went even further. He began to flirt explicitly with
Holocaust denial, saying "why do we play a part in suppressing alternative
information to the official line of the Second World War? How is it right
that while this fierce suppression goes on, free copies of the Spielberg
film, Schindler's List, are given to schools to indoctrinate children with
the unchallenged version of events. And why do we, who say we oppose
tyranny and demand freedom of speech, allow people to go to prison and be
vilified, and magazines to be closed down on the spot, for suggesting
another version of history." He also denounced the Nuremberg Trials as "a
farce" and "a calculated exercise in revenge and manipulation."

Icke's politics today are a mishmash of most of the dominant themes of
contemporary neofascism, mixed in with a smattering of topics culled from
the U.S. militia movement. He has written diatribes on the Illuminati, the
Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission as examples of
secret plots to take over the world. He opposes gun control as a plot by
this Elite, which has deliberately orchestrated numerous mass shootings to
whip up opposition to guns. He has repeatedly posted anti-abortion
literature and articles on his web site. He rails against conspiracies to
implant microchips in everyone's bodies, coded with the Satanic number
"666". He even accuses the U.S. government of carrying out the Oklahoma
City bombing and murdering 168 men, women and 

[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] MONEY LAUNDERING

2000-03-07 Thread Kris Millegan





From: Brian Downing Quig [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I must say that I am at a loss to understand the money laundering mechanism
involved in the lengthy mortgage posts of Catherine but I do know that any
business that takes in great amounts of cash is (or has been in the past) ideal
for money laundering.  After all the idea is to mix unaccounted for money in with
other money to disguise its source.

As I explained in the past, the death of ARIZONA REPUBLIC reporter Don Bolles was
a result of two organized crime factions competing for control of race tracks
which were the most ideal washing machines in the state.  These sports facilities
seem to me to be even more ideal for this purpose.  I have to be struck by the
fact that so many of those who interest us regarding illegal drugs also own
sports facilities.

In Phoenix in the money game there has been one cardinal rule.  The top guy gets
to break all the rules.  When I came to town it was Ned Warren and his half
billion land fraud that was obtaining immunity from the laws that govern us.  He
was secretly the agent of Kemper Marley.  Kemper Marley owned a serious get out
of jail card in Phoenix.  And then there was Charlie Keating.  Marley was saving
a million dollars a year via the same mistake that at state treasury that was
made for Keating.

Now the top dog here is Jerry Colangelo owners of the SUNS basketball.  The week
that he obtained $350 million in public financing for his BANK ONE BALL PARK he
pre sold the concessions for 5 years for $500 million.  That is what you call
legal crime.  When the public would not vote the money Jerry went through the 3
member board of county supervisors to get this money (collected as a 1/2 cent
sales tax).

One disgruntled tax activist shot mary Rose Wilcox, who carried Colangelo's
water, in the ass.  When the first news reports came out saying shot in the lower
back and then shot in the upper leg it was clear what had happened.  This was a
very difficult matter for the press to handle.  After all the last thing the
establishment wanted was a trend where shameless whore politicians were being
shot in the ass.

Top dog Jerry has made more than $500 million since he has come to Phoenix from
Chicago. Could part of that unusual success be you know what money?

And it should be noted that the last words of Don Bolles, "Emprise, the mafia,
John Adamson.  Find him." referred to the company owned by the Jacobs family of
New York who is in the concessions business.  This last year former AG at the
time of the Bolles murder and then governor Burce Babbitt as Interior Secretary
conferred the concessions for all national parks to DELAWARE NORTH the renamed
EMPRISE CORPORATION.

Does anyone smell money laundering there?

Brian

Daniel Hopsicker wrote:

 From: Daniel Hopsicker [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Now there's a tantalizing question.

 From what I've been able to gather Dixon is/was the Louisiana equivalent
 of Arkansas honcho Jackson Stephens. Looks to me like they're both
 Colonels in sumpin.'

 Here's a little more on Dixon, from a gushinbg local business news artile in
 the New Awlins paper:

 When I described it to him, he said, 'My God, this will be the greatest
 building ever built,"' said Dave
 Dixon, the New Orleans businessman who dreamed up the Dome. "Without his
 work, it would never
 have been built." There's been some talk about placing a statue of the late,
 great Gov. John McKeithen
 in front of the Superdome. Why not put the "holy trio" -- McKeithen, (former
 Mayor Moon) Landrieu
 and Dave Dixon? They got the job done.  Dixon, a New Orleans entrepreneur,
 was trying to lure a professional
 football franchise to the city. The All-Star Game was a trial run. Now he saw
 his vision being crushed
 under the wheels of a few racist cabbies.

 David Goldman wrote:

  From: David Goldman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Dan, I thought I understood from Compromised or elsewhere that Ernest
  Jacobsen was Barry Seal's CIA handler. What is the connection between him
  and Dave Dixon?
 
  David Goldman
 
  
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 Daniel Hopsicker
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 http://www.MadCowProd.com
 "All the news that's ripped from print!"

 Scandal in contemporary U.S. life is an institutionalized sociological
 phenomenon. It is not due primarily to psychopathological variables,
 but is due to the institutionalization of elite wrongdoing which has
 occcurred since 1963."

 "Many of the scandals that have occurred in the U.S. since 1963 are
 fundamentally interrelated: that is, the same people and institutions
 have been involved."   --Prof.David Simon, "Elite Deviance 6th edition

 

[CTRL] Big-Time Gangsters Set up McCain's Family Fortune

2000-03-07 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
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Click Here: A HREF="http://www.spotlight.org/Pat/gangsters/gangsters.html"ga
ngsters/A
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Big-Time Gangsters Set up McCain's Family Fortune
The Buchanan-hating Bronfman family are the "godfathers" behind the organized
crime empire in Arizona that spawned the political career of "reformer" John
McCain.
By Michael Collins Piper

In 1976 a crusading Phoenix reporter, Don Bolles, was murdered by a car-bomb
after writing a series of stories exposing the organized crime connections of
well-known figures in Arizona, including one Jim Hensley.

Five years later "Honest John" McCain arrived in Arizona as the new husband
of Hensley's daughter, Cindy. "From the moment McCain landed in Phoenix,"
according to Charles Lewis of the Center for Public Integrity, "the Hensleys
were key sponsors of his political career."
The fact is, the people ultimately behind the Hensley fortune are even more
interesting and controversial

While it is well-known McCain's father-in-law is owner of the biggest
Anheuser-Busch beer distributor in Arizona—one of the largest beer
distributors in the nation—the media has had nothing to say about the origins
of the Hensley fortune that financed McCain's rise to power.

The Hensley fortune, in fact, is a regional offshoot of the big time
bootlegging and rackets empire of the Bronfman dynasty of Canada, founded by
Sam Bronfman, an early partner of Meyer Lansky, longtime "chairman of the
board" of the international crime syndicate. (The Bronfmans cover all bases.
Sam's son, Edgar, today—at least publicly—supports George W. Bush.)

McCain's father-in-law got his start as a top henchman of one Kemper Marley
who, for some forty years until his death in 1990 at age 84, was the
undisputed behind-the-scenes political boss of Arizona. But Marley was much
more: he was also the protege of Lansky's longtime lieutenant, Phoenix
gambler Gus Greenbaum.

In 1941 Greenbaum had set up the Transamerica Publishing and News Ser vice,
which operated a national wire service for bookmakers. In 1946 Green baum
turned over the day-to-day operations to Marley while Greenbaum focused on
building up Lansky-run casinos in Las Vegas, commuting there from his home in
Phoe nix. Greenbaum, in fact, was so integral to the Lansky empire that he
was the one who took command of Lansky's Las Vegas interests in 1947 after
Lansky ordered the execution of his own longtime friend, Benjamin "Bugsy"
Siegel, for skimming profits from the new Flamingo Casino.

Greenbaum and his wife were murdered in a mob "hit" in 1948, their throats
cut. The murder set off a series of gangland wars in Phoenix, but Marley
survived and prospered

During this time Marley was building up a liquor distribution monopoly in
Arizona. The truth is that it was the Bronfman family that set Marley up in
business. However, in 1948, some 52 of Marley's employees (including Jim
Hensley) went to jail on federal liquor violations—but not Marley.

The story in Arizona is that Hensley took the fall for Marley. Upon Hensley's
release from prison, Marley paid Hensley back by setting him up in the beer
business. That company today, said to be worth $200 million, financed
McCain's career. And without Marley's political support McCain could have
never even gotten elected dogcatcher.

But there's more. McCain's father-in-law had also dabbled in the dog racing
business and he expanded his family fortune further by selling his dog racing
track to an individual connected to the the Buffalo-based Jacobs family.

The Jacobs were the leading distributors for Bronfman liquor into the United
States during Prohibition into the hands of local gangs that were part of the
Lansky syndicate. Expanding over the years, the family's enterprises were
once described as being "probably the biggest quasi-legitimate cover for
organized crime's money-laundering in the United States."

While John McCain himself can not be held personally responsible for the sins
of his father-in-law, the fact is that this "reformer" owes his political and
financial fortunes to the good graces of the biggest names in organized
crime.
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Aloha, He'Ping,
Om, Shalom, Salaam.
Em Hotep, Peace Be,
All My Relations.
Omnia Bona Bonis,
Adieu, Adios, Aloha.
Amen.
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[CTRL] Echelon - Statist Evil Exposed! - Scientific - …

2000-03-07 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://maxpages.com/echelon
Click Here: A HREF="http://maxpages.com/echelon"Echelon - Statist Evil
Exposed! - Scientific - …/A
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Echelon
Statist Evil Exposed!

Echelon is a worldwide spying network that is used for spying internationally
by the US National Security Agency and some allies (Australia, Britain  New
Zealand). The network is used not only to spy on terrorists but on
individuals guilty of no crime, in violation of the US Constitution and all
legitimate principles of Human Rights in global bioethical contexts.

The International Libertarian Network calls for the abolition of the NSA and
all of its foreign equivalents. Their clandestine malevolence must be ended
permanently and irrevocably. We advocate the use of existing encryption such
as PGP and the development of advanced methods such as "quantum encryption"
to stifle the heinous criminal spying of tne NSA and its crypto-fascist
cohorts.

Howard R Olson MA PhD
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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[CTRL] Vast Vaults Below Giza

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Vast Vaults Below Giza

Just received, email:

OSIRIS UPDATE: Colourful stories are entertaining... but what interests me is
a
more succinct picture of what is really going on at Giza, and elswhere, for
that  matter; Yesterday I was fortunate enough to acquire a video where Dr.
James Hurtak spoke at a NEXUS conference in Sydney, Australia, last year.
Remember that interesting material on Kent Steadman's site, which claimed that
Hurtak's team participated in Top Secret archaeological excavations at Giza?
well, Hurtak is not messing about; he means business. Due to the great
sensitivity of this and related projects he was unable to show more than a
limited amount of footage; much of this was for the audience's eyes only. It
was clear, to me at least, that Hurtak was saying a good deal less than he
wanted to, but what he did say was extremely provocative. According to him,
there is a labyrinth of tunnels and massive vaults, some the size of a
cathedral, under Giza, which were put there by an advanced civilisation, and
there is a team of scientists working on artifacts and discoveries there from
Japan, Europe and America, in what would appear to be a classified
project.

More description, and past and ongoing supporting research at:
ORBIT
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Kent Steadman



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[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Who is the Octopus

2000-03-07 Thread Kris Millegan






From: 
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Slightly off topic but then again...

Who is the Octopus? I've read many accounts 
of the Octopus - with Carol Marshall's THE LAST CIRCLE ranking top most in my 
mind to date. But the actual identity of the Octopus remains 
uncertain.This week I read Mae Brussel's essay "The Nazi Connection 
to the JFK Assassination." Whoaa! This was written almost twenty 
years ago in 1983, and Mae Brussel looks like she hit the nail on the head back 
then:

"In A Study of a Master Spy, published in London in 1961, 
Bob Edwards, a member of Parliament and Kenneth Dunne, presented documentary 
evidence that Allen Dulles of the CIA carried on secret conferences with 
representatives of Hitler's SS Security Office in February and March 1943. They 
learned that "Official Washington knew Martin Bormann, Deputy Fuhrer of Hitler's 
Germany, master-minded the international 'Die Spinne' (Spider) underground 
organization which is planning to revive nazism as soon as West Germany is 
adequately rearmed by the United States. Official Washington seems 
disinterested."
With John J. McCloy, Allen Dulles and J. Edgar Hoover in 
control of the Kennedy assassination investigation, these nazi connections were 
buried. The Bunge Corporation, Argentina  Germany.  The stock market 
dropped 24 points in 27 minutes when news of President Kennedy's assassination 
was announced. 2.6 million shares were sold off. 
It was the greatest panic since 1929.
Somebody made a huge profit selling short in many markets. 
Somebody made half a billion dollars in one day. Coincidentally, the Allied 
Crude Vegetable Oil Refining Corporation, headed by New Jersey commodities 
dealer Anthony De Angeles, crashed the same day, driving the market 
down.
Allied Crude was controlled by U.S. American Bunge 
Corporation and financially controlled by a group of share-holders headquartered 
in Argentina, known as "Bunge and Born, LDA."
Business Week of October 19, 1963, one month before the 
Kennedy assassination, described the Born family in Argentina, the biggest 
shareholders for Bunge, as being from Europe, specifically Germany. 
Everything about Bunge has German influence. They have a $2 billion annual 
business in 80 countries. There are over 110 offices, all linked by Telex and 
under-the-ocean telegraph channels. The Bunge Corporation is referred to as "the 
Octopus."
One of the best "Bormann" books ever written in my 
opinion is Paul Manning's "Martin Bormann - Nazi in Exile." Manning 
was a highly regarded journalist. His story reveals how Bormann was the 
master-mind behind the Nazi capital flight programme beginning 1944 - once it 
was clear that the Third Reich was going down the tubes. One significant 
implication was that the "Battle of the Bulge" wasa delaying tactic to 
ensure sufficient time for the capital flight programmeto become 
effective. Thereafter Bormann escaped to Argentina and safety where he 
re-invested the vast assets and Nazi war plunder into the stock markets of the 
US  Europe via 750corporation Bormann established in secrecy during 
the last year of the war. Bormann was not a dogmatic Nazi but rather 
believed in laizze faire capitalism with a capital C, as I understand 
it
Mae Brussel also noted that "SS Major Otto Skorzeny's 
CIA agents participated in terror campaigns waged by Operation 40 in Guatemala, 
Brazil and Argentina." Skorzeny was, of course, one of the principal SS 
officers involved in Der Spinne - and hence connected to the Bormann 
group.
Manning also states that by 1981, the date the book 
was published, Martin Bormann sat atop an "organizational pyramid that dominates 
the industry of West Germany through banks, voting rights enjoyed by majority 
shareholders in significant cartels, and the professional input of a relatively 
young leadership group of lawyers, investment specialists, bankers and 
industrialists, he is satisfied that he achieved his aim of helping the 
fatherland back on its feet. To ensure continuity of purpose and 
direction, a close watch is maintained on the profit statements and management 
reports of corporations under its control. This leadership group of 
twenty, which is in fact a board of directors, is chaired by Bormann but power 
has shifted... [to them]."
If anyone can add further to this story I would be 
interested to hear from them.










[CTRL] Fwd: George Bush--One of America's Biggest Traitors//Treason--It's a Bush family tradition/Fwd

2000-03-07 Thread Kris Millegan





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3.7.00
George Bush--One of America's Biggest Traitors

Also: Treason--It's a Bush family tradition/Fwd



It's obvious to EVERYONE, probably even to someone as clueless as
Emperor-elect G. Dubya Bush himself, that G. Dubya Bush is UTTERLY
unqualified to be President of this country.

It's obvious to EVERYONE, including some if not most of those who are
actually VOTING for this coke-addled moron, that when Dubya becomes
President, DADDY and DADDY'S BUDDIES will be running the show, NOT Dubya.

This of course brings to mind to laughable sideshow that went on in
America when one Ronald Reagan was pretending to be President for eight
years, while supposed Vice-President George Herbert Walker Bush was
actually wearing the pants in that combined/extended (CRIME) 'family."=20

In FACT, supposed "veep" and ex-CIA director GHW Bush got right into the
swing of things by having John Lennon assassinated in New York by Mark
David Chapman right after Reagan and Bush "WON" (yuk, yuk) the 1980
"election". And right after THIS, clearly flushed from success, Bush
either tried to take Ronnie down outright or else sent him one HELL of
an unmistakable message  and warning shot by having Reagan shot by John
Hinckley; who before the attempted assassination of Reagan obsessively
and ritualistically copied every move CHAPMAN had made before Chapman
killed John Lennon. Mind-controlled, "Manchurian Candidate" assassins
created by some CIA-run mind control operation utilizing
electromagnetic/radio-frequency transmission, drugs, hypnosis, shock,
and ritualistic, "satanic" psychosexual abuse, PERHAPS? Well, you
decide. Keep in mind, however, that John Hinckley's family in Denver, a
MAJOR CIA hangout (Langley West) and home to an disproportionately-high
number of mind-controlled agents (victims), is VERY CLOSELY LINKED to
the Bush (crime) family.

Ronnie undoubtedly got George (Heroin)-Poppy Bush's message.

GHW Bush really hit his stride with the drastically unconstitutional
Iran-Contra malfeasance, including linked drug-running and illegal arms
trading operations run by the Ollie North gang, during which time
Lamebrain Ronnie was busy distracting America by doing his dear old
granddad act for the TV cameras; a part well-practiced from Reagan's many
years as a second-string, hack Hollywood actor.

When Bush became President himself, he was DIRECTLY and PERSONALLY
responsible for setting up Saddam Hussein with billions of dollars in
illegal U.S. loans and vast quantities of military hardware and weapons.
Then, Bush had himself a Gulf War against Iraq, for a long list of
malicious reasons too long to list here.

And of COURSE, one can't forget the atrocities launched against the
helpless innocent civilians of Panama when Bush went into a rabid,
crazed attack against ANOTHER of Bush's butthole buddies, bigtime drug
dealer Manuel Noriega; whom once again Bush had just previously been as
cozy with as two peas in a pod.=20

And on top of THIS, as we noted yesterday, GHW Bush was greatly
responsible for cuddling up to the butchers of Beijing, falling all over
himself trying to cater to their every whim and acquiesce to their every
demand: pushing most favored nation trade status for China through
Congress right on the GRAVES of those slaughtered in Tianenmen Square.

For all this, and more, George Herbert Walker Bush, who is about to
AGAIN become president through the election of his half-witted, IDIOT
son Dubya, deserves to be recognized as one of the WORST TRAITORS
America ever had.

And, as our respondent Al C. notes in his missive below, this
kind of outright TREASONOUS activity  is a long-standing family
tradition with the Bush Crime Family.

Along with much vital information of how Prescott Bush was DIRECTLY
linked to the rise of the Third Reich in Germany, Champion also tells us
how Prescott's son George Herbert Walker got his nickname "Poppy."

=20
NewsHawk=AE Inc.

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3/6/00
Treason--it's a Bush Family tradition



Well, Hack, this latest epistle of yours really twists me. Especially
when it comes to the issue of treason.

How can I count the ways.

1. George W. Bush's maternal great grandfather owning and using a major
shipping line to supply Adolf Hitler in the 1930's. This line was at
some point identified as a "front" company for the 3rd Reich and its
operations were forced into suspension by the Roosevelt administration.

2. Prescott Bush, working for Brown Bros., Harriman investment bankers;
which was as one of the lead financiers for the Thule Society membership
[Thyssen, Krupp, et al] who created Adolf Hitler. Little discussed, but
this relationship between Prescott Bush and Adolf earned Bush the
calumny of being found guilty by the US Congress of violating US
"trading with 

Re: [CTRL] There's no stopping 'Governor Death'

2000-03-07 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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 murder of his girlfriend. In 1991, he was sentenced to die by lethal
 injection. In 1997, a new team of lawyers took his case and uncovered
 evidence that they said showed Barnes was framed by police investigators.
 Despite the lawyers' appeals, Texas judicial authorities have refused to
 reopen the case. Europeans are outraged. Last week, French President Jacques
 Chirac called former President Bush to plead for Barnes' life and a new
 trial. 

It was just for such occasions as this that the Rehnquist Court made its
famous declaration that "innocence is no bar to carrying out a conviction."
Dubya has lots of friends on that court.  They look upon capital punishment
with the same giggle.  Prudy

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[CTRL] [BRIGADE] Voter News Service Threatens Exit Poll Reporting

2000-03-07 Thread Bill Richer

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Dear Brigade,

Latest Drudge Report on VNS - fyi - Linda

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Reporting
Date sent:  Tue, 7 Mar 2000 10:49:41 -0500

X DRUDGE REPORT X MON MARCH 06 2000 22:25:32 ET X

NATIONAL REVIEW ONLINE WARNED NOT TO POST SUPER TUESDAY
EXIT POLLS

VOTER NEWS SERVICE has legally threatened NATIONAL REVIEW
ONLINE not to report exit polling numbers like they did last Tuesday, the
DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

Late Monday afternoon, the conservative online journal received a threatening
letter demanding that they cease posting exit data before polls close on
election day.

NATIONAL REVIEW ONLINE has not decided whether or not they are going
to post Super Tuesday's results yet.

VNS is a service provided by the Associated Press, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN
and Fox which provides key election day voting data to subscribers in media
and political circles.

"We're weighing our options. We think we're right in principle. But any
lawyer
who can chase Microsoft's flagship magazine from the battlefield has to be
taken seriously," said NATIONAL REVIEW ONLINE editor Jonah Goldberg
late Monday evening.

SLATE.COM received a similar warning from VNS after posting early results
of the New Hampshire and South Carolina primaries.

SLATE.COM columnist Jack Shafer recently defended the art of releasing
numbers early:

"I'm not releasing the exit polls as an act of journalistic delinquency, but
because I'm in business to disseminate information, not to withhold it
because somebody might use it 'incorrectly' by staying home and not voting
because their candidate has lost (or won).

"Information wants to move. If my friends, enemies, and acquaintances in the
media continue to feed me the exit poll numbers during this campaign, I'll
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SLATE.COM'S editors have chosen not to post these numbers since South
Carolina, complying with the VOTER NEWS SERVICE request.

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NATIONAL REVIEW ONLINE WARNED NOT TO POST SUPER TUESDAY
EXIT POLLS

VOTER NEWS SERVICE has legally threatened NATIONAL REVIEW
ONLINE not to report exit polling numbers like they did last Tuesday, the
DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

Late Monday afternoon, the conservative online journal received a threatening
letter demanding that they cease posting exit data before polls close on
election day.

NATIONAL REVIEW ONLINE has not decided whether or not they are going
to post Super Tuesday's results yet.

VNS is a service provided by the Associated Press, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN
and Fox which provides key election day voting data to subscribers in media
and political circles.

"We're weighing our options. We think we're right in principle. But any
lawyer
who can chase Microsoft's flagship magazine from the battlefield has to be
taken seriously," said NATIONAL REVIEW ONLINE editor Jonah Goldberg
late Monday evening.

SLATE.COM received a similar warning from VNS after posting early results
of the New Hampshire and South Carolina primaries.

SLATE.COM columnist Jack Shafer recently defended the art of releasing
numbers early:

"I'm not releasing the exit polls as an act of journalistic delinquency, but
because I'm in business to disseminate information, not to withhold it
because somebody might use it 'incorrectly' by staying home and not voting
because their candidate has lost (or won).

"Information wants to move. If my friends, enemies, and acquaintances in the
media continue to feed me the exit poll numbers during this campaign, I'll
continue to post the numbers here in real time."

SLATE.COM'S editors have chosen not to post these numbers since South
Carolina, complying with the VOTER NEWS SERVICE 

[CTRL] China army ready to smash Taiwan splittists

2000-03-07 Thread Bill Richer

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China army ready to smash Taiwan "splittists"


Updated 2:40 AM ET March 6, 2000

BEIJING, March 6 (Reuters) - China's military kept up the
rhetoric against Taiwan on Monday ahead of the island's
presidential election, with the main army newspaper saying troops
were ready to "resolutely smash" any move towards independence.

"Taiwan independence means war," blared the headline of a
front-page commentary in the Liberation Army Daily, echoing a
phrase used by a top Chinese general in a speech to parliament on
Sunday.

Central Military Commission vice-chairman Zhang Wannian said
independence forces in Taiwan were "walking ever further down the
road towards splitting the motherland."

The Liberation Army Daily said the military were ready for battle
to prevent such an outcome.

"The millions of soldiers of the People's Liberation Army stand
in full battle array and on high alert against Taiwan
independence and splittist forces," the commentary said.

It repeated a threat issued in a policy white paper last month
that China would use military force if the island dragged its
heels indefinitely on reunification talks.

Previously, Beijing had threatened to attack Taiwan only if it
declared independence or if it was invaded by foreign forces.

"We will adopt any measures to resolutely smash any scheme to
split China, and then realise the total reunification of the
motherland," the army newspaper said.

Taiwan is holding a hotly contested presidential election on
March 18 in which one of the three front-runners, Chen Shui-bian,
is the standard-bearer for a party that espouses independence.

Taiwan independence featured as a major issue at the opening of
the National People's Congress in Beijing on Sunday, with Premier
Zhu Rongji warning China would not "sit idly by" and watch
attempts by Taiwan to break away from the mainland.

On Saturday, President Jiang Zemin threatened "drastic measures"
if Taiwan delayed reunification talks indefinitely.




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[CTRL] China and North Korea Coordinate

2000-03-07 Thread Bill Richer

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STRATFOR.COM Global Intelligence Update
7 March 2000

China and North Korea Coordinate

Summary

With Taiwan's elections less than two weeks away, China has not
only strengthened its warnings against independence but increased
diplomatic contacts with North Korea. North Korean leader Kim Jong
Il recently paid an unusual visit to the Chinese embassy in
Pyongyang. China appears to lack the political will to launch an
aggressive military operation - and a crisis - like the one that
took place in the Taiwan Strait in 1996. Yet, Beijing appears to be
positioning itself to coordinate simultaneous challenges alongside
North Korea, sending a powerful warning to the United States, with
less risk of conflict.

Analysis

Amid intensified Chinese rhetoric directed against Taiwan, North
Korean leader Kim Jong Il paid an uncharacteristic visit March 5 to
the Chinese embassy in Pyongyang. Kim's visit occurred on the same
day that Chinese Central Military Commission (CMC) Vice Chairman
Zhang Wannian, in an advance of Taiwan's March 18 elections, stated
bluntly, "Taiwan independence means war."

Kim's embassy visit and the increased bellicosity in Beijing may
not be as unrelated as they first appear. China is searching for a
way to pressure Taiwan and send a message to the United States,
without drawing substantial international repercussions. While a
repeat of the 1996 missile tests in the Taiwan Strait would
interfere with China's current international relations, a
coordinated action, with North Korea in the Yellow Sea and China in
the Taiwan Strait, can send an even more powerful message with less
risk.

Beijing is looking for a way to influence Taiwan's presidential
elections and prevent Taipei from making further moves toward
independence. In addition, China wants to make it clear to the
United States that Taiwan remains a sovereign part of mainland
China; any attempt to interfere with this, particularly by
supplying Taiwan with arms, is unacceptable. But Beijing is
politically and strategically unprepared to initiate a conflict at
this time http://www.stratfor.com/asia/commentary/0002252352.htm

Not only is it in China's economic interest to maintain an open
door to the United States and other Western nations. Beijing does
not yet possess the military capability to defeat Taiwan in a war.
China's actions during March will likely determine its accession to
the World Trade Organization and increased U.S. defense cooperation
with Taiwan. Any direct provocation would give Taiwan the added
evidence needed to gain increased international and U.S. military
support. http://www.stratfor.com/asia/specialreports/special109.htm

While an invasion of Taiwan - or even a repeat of the 1996 missile
tests in the Taiwan Strait - is unlikely, Beijing still emphasizes
its determination against a more independent Taiwan. But the
government in Beijing is looking for ways that don't trigger an
immediate crisis. Beijing has resorted to increased rhetoric,
threatened timetables for reunification and talk of a Sino-Russian
strategic alliance to establish "a just and reasonable new world
order." http://www.stratfor.com/SERVICES/giu2000/030300a.ASP

Renewing the focus on North Korea, as signaled by Kim's visit,
presents a major opportunity for Beijing to increase the impact of
the threat, while minimizing the risk.
The governments of China and North Korea have steadily warmed ties
recently. During the tensions last summer over Taiwan President Lee
Teng-Hui's declaration of state-to-state relations with China,
China and North Korea reaffirmed military ties and began
preparation for a series of high-level exchanges, including a
potential visit of Kim Jong Il to Beijing.
http://www.stratfor.com/asia/specialreports/special52.htm

Some have speculated that Kim's recent visit to the embassy is an
attempt to make up for not having traveled to Beijing. But
Pyongyang's official Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) stated that
Kim's visit March 5 was "on the occasion of the New Year 2000" at
the request of the Chinese ambassador. It is likely that the visit
had greater implications. For Kim, who rarely meets foreign guests,
going to a foreign embassy is an unusual move. The visit emphasizes
the heightened level of Chinese-North Korean relations. Rather than
the Chinese ambassador going to Kim, he came to the embassy,
clearly showing that China is calling the shots.

Stronger relations at this time between China and North Korea lay
the groundwork for a potentially troubling situation for the United
States. In addition to concern about the Taiwan Strait, the United
States faces problems in the Yellow Sea. On March 3, North Korean
Navy Command announced the nullification of the Northern Limit Line
(NLL), the maritime extension of the Demilitarized Zone (DMZ) on
Korea's west coast. Following the declaration, South 

[CTRL] To Marines

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This was forwarded to me with a request to send to as many Marines as we can
muster; please be so kind to forward to anyone who a Marine and lets make
Capt. Keller's wish come true...



 My ex Father in law Capt Harry Keller USMC Ret, is dying of Cancer and has
become almost completely bed ridden.  He is a 27 year vet of the Corps, one
of the Chosin Frozen and a two tour Nam Vet.  In talking to him the past few
days, he has expressed an interest in hearing for Marines (any era) as he
really misses the comradery of the Corps.

 His e-mail addy is

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 I would eb gratefull if any marines out there coul drop him a note

 Thanks and Semper Fi

 MSgt G.C. "Jerry" Garrison USMC Ret

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[CTRL] Message on McCain from Hack

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Folks this brilliant piece is not from SFTT nor VOTG, but forwarded
 privately by David Hackworth, as it captures exactly how I feel about
 McCain.  My one exception with the piece, based on my extensive research: I
 don't believe McCain did his duty as a POW.  He is the only American
 soldier to receive a Silver Star medal for treason which says it all.
   Hack
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**
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 The Uses of Honor
 By Mark Helprin 03/06/2000
 The Wall Street Journal

 If John McCain wins the Republican nomination, he will have done so not by
 persuading the Republican Party but by overcoming it with the help of
 outsiders and by feverishly endorsing the accusations of its enemies. If he
 loses, he will have provided the Democrats with what they will hail as
 proof  that the GOP is an exclusionary, intolerant, narrow-minded, ruthless
 machine that would eat its own children rather than reform. These are
betrayals,
 plain and simple, and betrayals by any definition are acts that are hard to
 square with honor.

 And yet he has asked to be judged by his honor, and his countrymen have
 responded not merely with respect but with love, love for an American pilot
 whose plane went down and who suffered long in captivity on our behalf
 and in our stead, who was defiant and principled even in the face of death,
and
 who, far beyond that, refused his freedom on a single point of honor that no
one
 living would have accused him of dishonoring had he not. What he did is, as
 it should be, part of American history. There are few better or more moving
 stories, anywhere, of courage, defiance, and discipline. He has won the
 hearts of the American people. How could he not have?

 But God does not make perfect beings, and although -- and perhaps because
 -- Sen. McCain was once the font of enough honor and self-discipline for 100
 ordinary men, he has faltered.

 It is not honorable to trade upon one's honor, to offer it as a token, to
 mention it in every other breath. This is self-evident.

 It is not honorable for him to treat his rivals and opponents as if they
 were his captors. Are they? Were they? Is the world divided so, into bands
of
 angels following John McCain on his zigzag course as he decides what
 position to take on the spur of any moment, and demons mounting in their
number
 as he condemns and disdains one group after another? The GOP, he says, "is
 intent on breaking me." This is true only because he is intent on breaking
it,
 making the nomination struggle a bizarre combat between the would-be
 nominee and the party he seeks to represent. Of course, many people fervently
 agree that in a contest between Sen. McCain and the Republican Party itself,
the
 choice is clearly Sen. McCain: They are called Democrats.

 It is not honorable to be magnetized always by causes that put his own
 party at a mortal disadvantage. Though quite right that the admixture of
money
 and politics makes for deep and fundamental corruption, his cure, regulating
 the flow of that money, is worse than the disease. The flow can be regulated,
 the argument goes, because money is not speech. Fine. Put the New York Times,
 the Washington Post, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, the NEA, the AFL-CIO, People for
 the American Way, Emily's List, and the Sierra Club on budgets of $2 million
 per annum, and let's see if money is or is not speech.

 Nor is it honorable for Sen. McCain to turn upon his own party for the
 imperfections he alleges, and cry out that its challenges can be met not by
 adherence to its essential principles but by backing down. The Republicans
 whom he condemns remember with exquisite clarity the decades in which, for
 holding fast to antiquated principles, they were accused of being on the
 wrong side of history. They remember that for their lack of flexibility,
 and, sometimes, electability (is honor about being elected, or about being
 right?), and their refusal to abandon their belief in the sanctity of the
 individual and of human life, in the limitation of bureaucracy, in liberty,
 and in government by the consent of the governed, they were mocked and
 reviled, especially just before the clouds broke and the light showed that
 their stubbornness had put them, in fact, on the right side of history.

 And they wonder how it is that a man who held steadfastly for so long
 against unbearable pressure is so eager now to throw over his party, its
 principles, and its partisans for the sin of unwillingness to recast
themselves
 according to what he himself admits are his sometimes instantaneous and
 improvised notions of reform.

 Were he coherent enough actually to be seeking reform, his actions would
 have a different coloration. But he seems to want not the reform of the
 

[CTRL] AF News 7 Mar 00

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000342.  Air Force issues Notice of Intent on first operational F-22 wing

LANGLEY AIR FORCE BASE, Va. (AFPN) -- The Air Force published the Notice of
Intent in the Federal Register March 3 to prepare an Environmental Impact
Statement to assess the potential environmental impacts of a proposal to
beddown the initial F-22 operational wing.

The F-22 air superiority fighter is being developed to replace the F-15.
The first aircraft delivery is scheduled in 2004. The proposal is to beddown
a total of 72 operational aircraft grouped into three squadrons.

The Air Force will screen five alternative locations for the initial
beddown, including Langley Air Force Base; Eglin AFB and Tyndall AFB, Fla.;
Elmendorf AFB, Alaska; and Mountain Home AFB, Idaho.  Langley is the
preferred alternative, but each alternative will be screened to determine if
it warrants detailed analysis in this EIS.  Each alternative that fits the
criteria for the initial beddown, as well as the "no action" alternative
will be analyzed.

The Air Force projects the environmental analysis process will be completed
in about two years.  The environmental impact analysis will examine issues
relating to land use, airspace and safety, air and water quality, noise,
socioeconomics, biological and cultural resources and cumulative actions.

The Air Force will conduct the first phase of scoping meetings in each of
the five potential locations.  A second round of meetings will be conducted
in the locations selected for detailed analysis.  Dates, times and locations
for the meetings will be announced in the local media as they are scheduled.


Comments will be accepted throughout the environmental impact analysis
process, however to ensure sufficient time to consider public and agency
comment in the screening process and preparation of the Draft EIS, comments
should be submitted to the HQ ACC/CEVP; 129 Andrews St., Ste. 102; Langley
AFB VA 23665-2769; Attn: Ms. Brenda Cook by June 30.  (Courtesy of ACC News
Service)


000341.  Air Force continues toward mandatory travel card use

WASHINGTON (AFPN) -- Although the General Services Administration has
granted the Defense Department a 60-day extension on mandatory use of the
government Visa travel card, the Air Force is continuing efforts to
implement the new policy.

The Travel and Transportation Reform Act that took effect March 1, mandates
using the government travel card for all authorized expenses while on
official government travel.

The DOD extension delays mandatory use of the travel card until May 1,
however Air Force officials are encouraging travel card holders to use their
cards now and reminding those who don't yet have the travel card to apply
for one through their local finance office.


000345. Raptor undergoes low-speed taxi testing - Stand-alone photo

000345a.gif and 000345a.jpg
MARIETTA, Ga. (AFPN) -- F-22 Raptor 4003, soon to be the latest addition to
the Air Force's test fleet of next-generation air dominance fighters,
undergoes low-speed initial taxi testing at Lockheed Martin's facility here.
After completing both low- and medium-speed taxi tests (30 and 60 knots,
respectively) Raptor 4003 is expected to make its maiden flight the week of
March 6th.  (Photo by John Rossino)


000344.  Combat weatherman graduates Army Ranger Course

by Tech. Sgt. Hoover E. Hodge Jr.
10th Combat Weather Squadron

HURLBURT FIELD, Fla. (AFPN) -- An Air Force Combat Weather specialist has
earned the right to wear the U.S. Army's Ranger tab.

Staff Sgt. John C. Sosa graduated from the Army's Ranger Course, Feb. 18.
Sosa is assigned to Detachment 4, 10th Combat Weather Squadron, Fort
Benning, Ga.

His graduation from Ranger Class 3-00 has earned Sosa the distinction of
being the only current member of the weather career field to be "Ranger
tabbed."

As a combat weatherman, Sosa is charged with providing weather to the 3rd
Battalion of the 75th Ranger Regiment.

The Army Ranger Course is 61 days long.  Course members average 19 hours of
training each day, seven days a week.  Training is non-stop and intense.  It
is divided into three phases: the Benning Phase held at Camp Rogers and Camp
Darby, Fort Benning; the Mountain Phase held at Camp Frank D. Merrill near
Dahlonega, Ga.; and the Florida Phase held at Camp James E. Rudder, Eglin
Air Force Base, Fla.

The emphasis during the course is on practical, realistic and strenuous
fieldwork.  A goal of the course is to develop individual leadership
abilities through the application of the principles of leadership.

"John is an outstanding example of the type of young airmen and NCOs we have
in the 10th Combat Weather Squadron," said Lt. Col. Scott Funk, 10th CWS
commander.  "This training will enable him to go forward with his Ranger
customers as a team member, rather than as a liability, pushing weather
forward and 

[CTRL] America in 2035

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America in 2035

--
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The past four decades have set America on a collision course with
destruction. Since things falling downhill fall faster each second, morals
and values in the future will decline even quicker than they have already.
With the course of our country now firmly and deliberately established, here
is what we can anticipate America will look like in a few decades.
America, year 2035
Homosexuals dominate the politics of the nation. Laws have been passed that
severely punish anyone who says homosexuality is sinful or immoral, including
pastors preaching from the pulpit.

Age of consent laws for child sex have been virtually eviscerated. Pedophilia
is as politically protected and socially acceptable as homosexuality was in
the 1990s.

The vilest forms of pornography are shown on prime-time network programming.

Foreign commanders lead our military; their mission assignments come from the
United Nations.

Rural living is practically nonexistent. Land outside metropolitan areas is
off limits for human habitation.

All firearms are outlawed from personal possession.

Children take tests in early grades to determine their aptitude. Accordingly,
the state selects what vocation each child enters.

Only state-recognized religions are allowed to overtly exist. Any church that
preaches a narrow message of salvation is closed and the pastors are jailed.

Laws against sexual perversion of all types are long gone; homosexuals
legally marry and adopt children.

The U.S. Constitution has been formally rewritten. Freedom is what the
government says it is -- nothing more.

Forced abortions for family planning is the law of the land.

History books declare America's founding fathers, white Southerners,
Christians and political conservatives to be the personifications of evil.

Death sports rivaling those of first-century Rome are televised as they
happen.

It is extremely difficult for professing Christians to gain employment.

There is no cash. Commerce is exchanged via computer chips implanted under
the skin.

There are few local and state police agencies. Law enforcement is the
responsibility of federal and international government.

International courts determine much of America's laws.

God has been officially removed from public life; no one prays in public nor
passes out Bibles. It is against the law to evangelize.

The U.S. flag has been redesigned without stars; states have been merged into
regional territories.

Back to the present
Before you write off this column as the ramblings of a man gone mad, consider
that only 35 years ago the things that are happening today were just as
unthinkable as those listed above! Furthermore, I submit to you that all of
the above is already in the works. It is already taking shape.

You don't have to be a prophet or the son of a prophet to see the handwriting
on the wall. Barring a political revolution or spiritual revival, this is
what America will look like 35 years from now.

In the face of this foreboding prospect, how can we accept the
business-as-usual politics being offered by both major parties today? The
only presidential candidates who even talk like they understand the plight of
our nation and how to fix it are Alan Keyes, Pat Buchanan and Howard
Phillips. Yet, even Christian conservatives don't give them a second look.

It is late in the day! We don't have time for political charades and
disingenuous opportunists. We must start behaving and voting like dedicated
lovers of freedom and return to America's first principles or this nation is
history!



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Re: [CTRL] Treating multiples

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Hi Mel,

You may have heard that the only cure for trauma based MPD programming is
"Love" and/or Spiritual realization of self. (Love for higher self / God)
... maybe that is the only real cure for "the human condition" itself
smile

You might consider starting her out with a placebo to be taken in case of
"triggering" by tapping noises... or perhaps a flower essence - rescue
remedy?  Don't be too quick to settle on a remedy. Take a good case, be sure
that the remedy not only suits what is wrong with her, but also suits her
constitution and temperament. If there is much sexual abuse, it may be
important to consider the syphilitic miasm... in fact it is probably a big
part of

Involve her (empower her) in becoming an active and detached observer (this
is the viewpoint of "higher self" ... "soul".. ) by having her take the
placebo, and then carefully note effects of "triggering"  (panic,
earthquake, whatever)... have her take notes.. find a way to give her a way
out of being engulfed by the experience...

As far as how you effect the cure from the homeopathy angle:
Just do good homeopathy! Trust in homeopathy, and your client's trust in you
will be justified.
You need to know where you wish to go, roughly - but it is not so important
that you know exactly how to get there, let the homeopathy do that.

A good diet is important for her - any vitamin B deficiency will make it
more difficult, and will make sensitivity to noises stronger.
Also "earthy" or "grounding" foods will be helpful. (meat, potatoes; heavy
stuff.)
Exercise is good also - Chi Gung or Tai Chi would be very helpful. (or dance
or Yoga..)

Remember that "reality" is totally subjective.
It is very important that YOU *KNOW* THIS.
Everything can change in the wink of an eye - it is completely dependent on
Point Of View.
Your client is divine indestructible soul; as your point of view powerfully
affirms this, it will be commmunicated to her effortlessly.
She is not broken or damaged, truly - merely has had some bizarre and
frightening experiences.
Releasing the fear, trauma, and lack of trust in self (God? ... parent?  ...
people in general?) is the way to her healing.

Study the case until you are fairly sure that you have a remedy that has the
potential to unwind the whole case. Piecemeal is not good homeopathy, at
least not as an intention - shoot the arrow for the bullseye, if you miss,
then make corrections and the next attempt may be closer... but don't be too
hasty and give a remedy until you are fairly sure.

I don't know of a rubric for a lack of self trust, but perhaps this will
give food for thought.

 Complete - Mentals
CONFIDENCE want of self (101)
1 agn, 1 alum, 1 am-br, 1 am-c, 1 am-m, 3 AMBR, 2 aml-n, 3 ANAC, 1 anan, 1
ang, 1 anh, 1 aq-mar, 1 arg-n, 1 arist-cl, 1 ars, 2 aur, 1 aur-i, 1 aur-s, 1
bamb-a, 1 bar-acet, 2 bar-c, 1 bell, 2 bry, 1 buth-aust, 1 calc, 1 calc-sil,
1 canth, 1 carb-an, 1 carb-v, 1 carc, 1 caust, 2 chin, 1 chlor, 1 choc, 1
cob, 1 cocc, 1 dros, 2 dys-co, 1 foll, 1 gall-ac, 1 gels, 1 germ, 1 graph, 1
hydrog, 1 hyos, 1 ign, 1 iod, 2 kali-c, 1 kali-n, 1 kali-s, 1 kali-sil, 2
lac-c, 1 lac-h, 1 lach, 1 lap-c-b, 1 lap-gr-m, 2 lyc, 1 manc, 2 med, 1 merc,
1 mur-ac, 1 naja, 1 nat-c, 2 nat-m, 1 nat-s, 1 nat-sil, 1 nit-ac, 1 nitro-o,
1 nux-v, 1 olnd, 1 op, 1 ozone, 1 pall, 2 petr, 2 ph-ac, 1 phos, 1 pic-ac, 1
plb, 1 prot, 2 puls, 1 ran-b, 1 rhus-t, 1 ruta, 2 sac-alb, 1 sant, 3 SIL, 1
spong, 1 staph, 1 stram, 1 sul-ac, 1 sul-i, 1 sulph, 1 sumb, 1 syph, 1 tab,
1 thea, 1 ther, 1 verat, 1 verb, 1 viol-t, 1 zinc

Note that Anac. is a #3 in the rubric above... I've always thought I might
one day find a use for this rubric:

 Phatak - Phatak
IMAGINATIONS, SUPER HUMAN, CONTROL UNDER (5)
2 anac, 2 lach, 1 op, 1 plat, 1 thuj

Look at Mentals, self-control section of repertory.
If you have an ongoing interest in learning a lot about mental symptoms and
mind-based dis-ease, I'd suggest the homeopath's "Manual of Psychiatry" by
Dr. J.P.S. Bakshi and the "New Comprehensive Homoeopathic Materia Medica of
the Mind" by H.L.Chitkara


best regards,


Dave Hartley
http://www.asheville-computer.com/dave



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Dave,
What I meant by "How do I effect this" is: the patient cannot work because
she is triggered by tapping, which is everywhere. She wants to be able to
work in a normal environment. How can I integrate your information into
choosing a remedy? A rubric for lack of trust in self/

Should have known that someone with so much knowledge on this subject would
have a personal connection!
Thanks for your help,
Mel

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Re: [CTRL] [LIFE-GAZETTE] Re: IUFO: TIMES: Vegetarian Antichrist is 'walking among us' (fwd)

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Probably, David. But let us be fair about this. If the Roman Catholics
need to repent of a lot of 'papal bull', perhaps the Protestants are full
of the 'baloney'.
   I think Anne Petrie, at Moral Divide is on to something. She noted the
other night while speaking to author Michael Higgins that she would like
to see religion as a part of current affairs programs as it "cuts to the
heart of what we're about" (Higgins). Well, it IS a part of current
affairs programming if we define it properly. But Anne presented a VERY
DANGEROUS NOTION from the standpoint of journalistic
analysis. Churchocrats get away with being good-for-nothing social
parasites and worse because the kind of common sense questions expected in
current affairs programming are not asked of them. If you keep talking
about heaven who can prove you right or wrong? But when it comes to "Thy
will be done on earth as it is in heaven" someone may well ask, "If you
know so much about heaven and the Creator of the entire universe maybe you
can tell us how we are then to live on this one small planet? It should be
easy for you given your expertise as a great cosmologist".
FWP.

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 YEP! - ROFL

 Is that the same 'papal bull' that Dr Martin Luther described as a "DUNGHILL
 of ROMISH DECRETALS" (ggg)

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 On Mon, 6 Mar 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  London Times 3/6/00
  Vegetarian Antichrist is 'walking among us'
 
  FROM RICHARD OWEN IN ROME
  THE leading conservative contender to succeed the Pope yesterday said that
  the "Antichrist" was already on Earth in the guise of a prominent
  philanthropist whose concern for human rights and the environment and
  advocacy of ecumenicism masks his real aim: the destruction of
 Christianity
  and "the death of God".
  Cardinal Giacomo Biffi, 71, the Archbishop of Bologna, said the Antichrist
 


 Sounds like a lot of "bologna" to me...or maybe "papal bull".
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[CTRL] Scientists justify Clinton's treatment of women

2000-03-07 Thread Richard Sampson

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=001851641145319rtmo=r3mXh3bXatmo=pg=/et/00/3/7/wrape07.html



Outrage as professors claim rape is natural

   By Roger Highfield, Science Editor

A CLAIM by two "evolutionary
   psychologists" that rape is as natural as a
   leopard's spots comes under widespread
   criticism today.

   The "evolutionary psychologists" Craig
   Palmer, of the University of Colorado, and
   Randy Thornhill, a professor at the
   University of New Mexico, argue that rapists
   father children. Because these men pass on
   their genes by force, any genes favouring
   that behaviour are passed to the next
   generation, ensuring the persistence of rape,
   they claim in A Natural History of Rape, by
   MIT Press.

   The assertions have prompted furious
   opposition from women generally and
   feminists in particular, for it argues that sex,
   not power, is the motivation for rape. Other
   scientists attack the book, claiming that it is
   flawed and inflammatory.

   The authors of the book are dismissive of the
   current belief that rape is driven by power,
   violence and dominance rather than sex.
   Women who espouse the view that rape is an
   act of violence are "scientifically illiterate"
   and too emotional to comprehend the
   scientific facts objectively, they say.

   They write: "We fervently believe that, just as
   the leopard's spots and the giraffe's
   elongated neck are the results of aeons of
   past Darwinian selection, so also is rape.
   Human rape arises from men's evolved
   machinery for obtaining a high number of
   mates in an environment where females
   choose mates. If men pursued mating only
   within committed relationships, or if women
   did not discriminate amongst potential
   mates, there would be no rape."

   Later this week a review will be published in
   the journal Nature written by Drs Jerry
   Coyne, of the University of Chicago, and
   Andrew Berry, of Harvard University. They
   take the book's leading argument and
   demonstrate that it rests on a foundation of
   untestable "just-so" stories.

   They write: "A Natural History of Rape is
   advocacy, not science . . . a woefully
   incomplete perspective on human
   behaviour." The Nature reviewers further
   claim that: "Thornhill and Palmer cloak
   themselves in the authority of science,
   implying that the controversy over their
   ideas is purely political, and that the
   underlying biology is unimpeachable. This is
   a serious misrepresentation."

   The book says that rape victims tend to be in
   their prime reproductive years, suggesting
   that reproduction is central to the rapists'
   agenda. "But the data they present contradict
   this claim," say the Nature reviewers,
   pointing out that a large proportion of rape
   victims are under the age of 11.

   The book says that married, or young and
   fertile women, get overwrought about rape
   because they have the greatest interest in
   retaining control over their genetic destiny.
   Post-menopausal women do not get as
   upset, Palmer and Thornhill claim. Thus, "the
   psychological pain that rape victims
   experience appears to be an evolved defence
   against rape."

   But a check of the sources by the reviewers
   found that the conclusions differed critically.
   Women over the age of 44 are just as
   traumatised as those aged 12 to 44. "The
 

[CTRL] The Destroyed Pagan Altar

2000-03-07 Thread ali andrew




This is an update on the Current Situation at Mt.Carmel in New Jerusalem, 
Waco Texas.

From: The Watchman 


Charles Pace,

You are a disgrace to the Word of God and to the memory of the Martyrs. I 
received this forward from Ron Goins. How dare you ask a True seeker 
of God to help you rebuild your Pagan Alter unto Satan your god? 
Ever since I came to New Jerusalem that alter has been attacked by the children 
of God. Praises are due to Tina for bring that filth to an end. I am told that 
you have tried to rebuild it but that ONE of the stones from the original is 
missing. I was shown that stone some time ago when I asked what was to become of 
it, not wanting it near me, I was assured that it would be pulverized. 
AMEN.

If you send the police here to question me as to who had it I will tell 
them the that it was Clive Doyle. And that he sees you in truth... that you are 
a cancer in New Jerusalem because you slander the Martyrs and are in your person 
an Abomination.

Liars always change the subject when they are confronted with the truth. 
Ron wrote a testimony concerning my character and the corruption you are 
involved in by building a church on the Sabbath. Why not speak to what he has 
witnessed to? The TRUTH speaks louder than your lies.

Andrew

From: Charles Pace 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
Re:Repairing the AltarDate: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 21:43:31 
PSTIn the Spirit of 
Truth,When do you plan on repairing the 
damage to the altar and the sign your friend Tina caused. Actions 
speak louder than words!!!Charles




-Original 
Message-From: ron goins [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: 
Thursday, March 02, 2000 10:54 PMSubject: Re: Building a Church on the 
Sabbath

 Peace and 
Blessings to all of an open mind; I've received this 
request by E-mail from an interested party and thought to answer it in 
the most logical way. I am often a poor vessel for the truth since I try 
to look at situations from many angles.

From: John 
Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: 
Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:36:42 -0600So whats up with Andrew 
and this new church? What did he mean the killers of the 
children of Waco and the abomination that maketh desolate. Im 
familiar with the verse. Not seeing the connection. ~ interested 
party. IJN

 Well 
it's a long story starting with the personal relationship between Andrew 
and Clive Doyle,the interim leader of the survivors group in 
Waco. Andrew came to Waco in December of 1996 from 
Philadelphia, Pa. He has a long history of fighting authority 
(especially abusive authority). April 19 1993 was a traumatic date for 
this entire country but especially traumatic for those sensitive to 
issues of human rights and religious freedoms. All of Andrew's circuits 
were fired that day , seeing men , women and children consumed in a fire 
after being held hostage 51 days by the armed forces of The Great Satan 
,the U.S. government. Familiar with many aspects of previous misdeeds of 
the past administrations and somewhat knowledgeable of comparative 
religion, Andrew made a study of this event. It would mark the rest of 
his life. I knew Andrew at this time and saw many of 
the same things and puzzled at the same mysteries. Why the raid ? Why 
the siege ? Why the assault? What had these people done to deserve this 
gross injustice? Andrew spoke often of finding out the facts 
regarding Waco, but like must of us never made the trip down here to 
find out. Until an accident on his motorcycle left him injured and 
unemployed, Andrew probably would have worked and studied at home, but 
this accident was advantageous to Andrew's vision quest, and he decided 
to face his life and his life-long demons on the 
road. Upon Andrew'a arrival he was faced with not only 
his issues of personal survival , but with issues related to the 
conditions faced by the survivors and the land (Mt. Carmel) itself. He 
lived in his van, knew nobody, had very little resources, but with will 
and determination he pitched in to the lives of people he felt a strong 
common bond with. He worked on the land, attended Sabbath meetings, 
guarded the often vandalized property overnight for weeks at a 
time.He had many questions at this time related to the history of the 
land, and the people who lived there. Not only the Branch Davidians but 
as far back as the original native tribes. He brought these questions 
and more to the survivors. Andrew learned much in 
his research and in his studies with Clive Doyle (though Clive might say 
that Andrew came in with certain fixed ideas and chose what might fit 
them (also true), and was in constant debate with any and all he might 
talk to . So Andrew and Clive may have been called friends 
at that point. Of course there will always be points of difference 

[CTRL] US Golfer Crushed Under Tree in his Cart

2000-03-07 Thread lloyd

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Subject: US Golfer Crushed Under Tree in his Cart
Date: Monday, February 28, 2000 2:55 PM

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Subject: US Golfer Crushed Under Tree in his Cart


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Subject: US Golfer Crushed Under Tree in his Cart


..A real estate and construction business man, Ray A. Putnam, 57, was
crushed to death in his golf cart as he passed beneath a large honey locust
tree which fell at exactly that moment. Friday, "just after 2 p.m.," 25
February 2000 on the 14th hole at the Sim Park Municipal Golf Course, 2020
West Murdock, Wichita, Kansas.
..The clue is in the horoscope. The event appears to be related to
earlier UFO activity. The Midheaven at 28Pisces32 (chart calculated for 2:04
PM, CST +6) is conjunct Mars 28Pisces15 in the famous Pampa Lluscoma UFO
abduction horoscope (Corporal Armando Valdez picked up in a ray of blue
light in northernmost Chile, April 1977).
..But that's not all: when Ray Putnam was crushed under the locust tree
transiting geocentric "in the sky" Mercury/Mars planetary midpoint was at
28Pisces05 just as the Midheaven (Sidereal Time) passed that point (moving
counter-clockwise in the horoscope).
..This is a classic "signature" and isn't very likely to be merely
fortuitous. It's apparently intended to drive secret government torture
gangs out of their minds.
..Ray Putnam was born 9 November 1942 in Devils Lake, North Dakota. At
one time his father worked for Boeing Aircraft.
..Event = 02.25.2000, 2:04 PM, zone +6, 97W20, 37N43. Asc. 15Cancer52
(using geocentric latitude).
..See: AP online archives and The Wichita Eagle, online.

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[CTRL] BLUE BEAM - Faking the Second Coming

2000-03-07 Thread Nicky Molloy

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This page has lots of links with important techical info on the NWO mind
control etc

last modified 02/14/2000
http://www.dnai.com/~zap/sdiisnwo.htm

We are about to undergo extremely cruel domination by a confederation of
reptilian species at the head of all "black ops" of most nations.
Clarification of Nostre Damus at bottom.



Clinton's got Martial Law ready to go into effect! Outline of program to
effect the social arm of SDI, The Strategic Defense Initiative, know
popularly as the "New World Order."




for information and instructions on how to survive. Or: use this clicker
BETTER.



http://www.thewinds.org/archive/government/eobf6-97.html
And now read about FEMA ---not your friendly emergency mercy angels
http://www.thewinds.org/archive/government/fema7-97.html




UN troops and executive orders to bash USA INTO SUBMISSION Fourth Millennium
counsels that you go "quietly"

100,000 Hong Troops are already present Some cities, like Phoenix, Arizona,
have been prepared for evacuation. The use of such cities for barracks or
staging areas is likely.



Below are a few dozen links on the subject of the radical changes in store
in the most immediate future. These are expected to begin on July 28, 1999.
The full effect of the changes will be in effect after the TRUE arrival of
the "heavenly host" appears, in summer/fall 2003. This is the first of two
arrivals, the second being in summer/fall 2012. These times, at the Feast of
The Tabernacles, are called "resurrections" by the bible and the "raptures"
by others, colloquially. These divine events are being misrepresented as
"hostile" invaders by the ACTUAL invaders, who are in league with a few
humans that have given permission to the Draconians (lead reptile species)
to intervene.



IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT YOU VISIT THIS SITE An attempt to fake reality after
the end of time, a "reality" in which will unravel the existences of the
"damned" in what the bible calls ":the second death"




We are already "conditioned" by use of scalar biotelemetry to conform
behaviors that will facilitate our submission as Americans

Energy waves that kill




From: "FOURTH MILLENNIUM"  (MODERATOR)
Subject: project blue beam  -- faking the  second coming

Attached are documents discussing much of the tech to be used in
the illusion.  This tech is discussed also in:
http://www.dnai.com/~zap/orion.htm.

The eclipses and other configurations of the heavens coming up in
a few weeks and in one year are part of the charade, but these also
produce massive energy disturbances which should be understood to
POWER the devices and to enhance the suggestibility of humans.

There are other devices and ploys at play that are crafted and
operated by other species.  Other species, namely the Reptilians of
the Orion star group, are taking advantage of the few of this species
who entertain relationships with them.  These species in turn are
dupes to yet another class of "species" which are spirits only, the
fallen angels, which desparately seek to be able to incarnate and are
after the prerogatives of the womb of the human female of this
Eve-Adamic generation.  Only freshly created humans have the ability
to possibly, in the contrivance of evil, afford such creatures
incorporation.
.  zeropoint


Subject: project blue beam


PLEASE THIS IS LONG BUT ITS 'CUTTING EDGE' INFORMATION! WE HAVE MANY
TALENTED FOLKS ON OUR 'LISTS' AND WE MUST HAVE A WAY TO 'SURVIVE' THIS
SITUATION! I believe that some kind of 'WHITE NOISE' MAY LET US KEEP OUR
'SANITY' Can anyone HELP??? PLEASE FORWARD TO THE 'KNOWN' WORLD!!

WHAT IS THE 'BLUE BEAM PROJECT'? From the INTERNET, courtesy of Calvin
Burgin, [EMAIL PROTECTED], 7/29/98: [quoting] It involves two things. A
technologically simulated "second coming" and the re-emgerence of the new
"MONTAUK"-type projects that have the ability to take up a whole bunch of
people as in a 'rapture' type of situation and whisk the whole bunch into
never-never land. Ironically, portions of the holographic projections have
the potential for changing the planet into one-ness with God.
Unfortunately, this operates on the premise that Man shall somehow become
God in human form and control other Men and dictate all actions 

[CTRL] TRANSMUTATION RECIPES FOR MAKING GOLD

2000-03-07 Thread Nicky Molloy

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TRANSMUTATION RECIPES FOR MAKING GOLD
http://www.dnai.com/~zap/gold.htm
Rest on the url


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Research into the Field of Low Energy   1989 - Present
Nuclear Transmutation
In 1989 I was fortunate to witness a phenomena which for all intents and
purposes has been ruled by the established scientific community as an
impossible event. In my observation of an experiment being performed by a
non-scientific person, I observed what appeared to be the instant conversion
of one element to another. This "conversion" occurred under conditions
wherein the applied energies were lower than those normally considered
possible.

Replication of this event under controlled conditions caused me to consider
the fact that nuclear events could occur under two sets of conditions; the
accepted norm of "high energy physics" and under a low energy nuclear
exchange.

Since the initial introduction to this event, I have dedicated full time to
the cause and potential effects of this discovery. In an attempt to fully
comprehend my findings I have collaborated with institutions throughout the
world to solidify my position and priority.

Work Experience;

Discovery Publishing  1992 - Present
Westboro, Wisconsin
Phoenix, Arizona
Performed functional testing of low energy nuclear transmutation reactions.
Position includes interaction with academic, government and private research
laboratories. Both domestic and international, to assimilate foundation data
that low energy nuclear events do in fact occur in nature and are
reproducible under controlled laboratory conditions. Information gathered
was published in professional and public journals


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LOW ENERGY TRANSMUTATIONS
(cold fusions and cold fissions)



Introduction.

 At the end of October 1988 I made a summary of the ideas about
the structure of the atom which I developed since I was a student (1).
 At the beginning of February 1989 a new model of the atom was
completed, and in light of this new model, I reconstructed the Periodic
Table of the Elements (2).
 I have never had the possibility to make any experiment, but the
experimental foundations of this model could be found, in my opinion, in
the papers of Thomson, Parson, Lewis, Allen, Harkins, Kervran and
Borghi (3).
 Finally, at the beginning of 1991, I made a summary of my ideas
about aether and matter in two papers (4), (5).
 Since that time I was waiting for the occasion to make some
experiments.
 This occasion came to me in April 1992, through Prof. Bockris.
 The results of these experiments are the following:

***

 The final product of the ignition showed in crease of B (beta)
radiation greater than twice the measured background.
 The mixture before ignition contained less than 20 p.p.m. of gold.
 After the ignition, the mixture contained more than 400 p.p.m. of
gold.

Experiment 2.

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[CTRL] Mind Control, MKULTRA CIA

2000-03-07 Thread DIG alfred webre

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Comment by Dick Farley [EMAIL PROTECTED] precedes fwd: "Martin Orne."

The ongoing discussion about "consciousness" and "Cosmic Mind" must be
filtered at least through the manipulations of "belief systems" before
settling down into any of the more transcendant modalities. "Global Mind
Change" was a political campaign Who is or was behind it, "what gods they
worship" or "what E.T.'s they thought they were obeying," are less important
than their targeting of  innocent U.S. citizens! A considerable amount of the
"consciousness change" movements of the '60s  '70s were thoroughly permeated
by various factions, primarily to exercise "control" and to prevent
mass-culture from spiraling out from under the extant "consensus doctrine."

Regarding this item, pulled from the "Mind Control" list online,  first a
couple of facts from CloudRider, sources as cited.

1.  The Society for the Investigation of Human Ecology, referenced in the
following letter, received its initial and ongoing funding from the
Rockefeller family, according to "Journey Into Madness," by Gordon Thomas,
(Bantam Books 1989; 1990), which details a Canadian court case in which CIA
eventually settled with "patients" of Dr. Ewen Cameron. Hence legitimate
concerns about Rockefeller funding of so-called "UFO" research (advocating
"belief in E.T.s") and of "alien abduction" phenomena, which some suspect to
be at least in part more cover operations for hypnosis and psychiatric
experiments on unwitting subjects, not necessarily by the United States
government or its agencies, but by former government or government-funded
folks now working outside of government or any of its legitimate
"intelligence charters." (If so, the funding philanthropists may be liable
for damages from "alien abduction" or "UFO related" trauma, once it can be
shown that the "extra-terrestrial hypothesis" was considered and advocated
despite less exotic potential explanations, as this.

2. Author John Marks, whose "In Search for the Manchurian Candidate" is
referenced in the following, reportedly has told interviewers and other
researchers that he "will not touch the UFO issue," vis-a-vis its potential
for overlap in at least some cases of so-called "UFO experiences" and "alien
abduction" recollections (of which not all had to be recalled under hypnosis
for remembrance by experiencers, researchers say). Marks' reluctance to
address the "UFO issues" in this manner was noted by Martin Cannon, in his
research paper and bibliography, "The Controllers," among others. It is also
known that researchers sponsored by CIA and subsequently by non-profits or
foundation money (i.e., the Institute for Noetic Science, directed by a
retired navy officer and former astronaut, Capt. Edgar Mitchell; the
Institute for the Advancement of New Science, in which former "astronaut
wanna-be" and Princeton physicist, Dr. Brian O'Leary, plays a key role, are
two examples of supposed "research groups" having as their public face an
interest in so-called "non-human intelligence" contact and its purported
trafficking with human beings; and several so-called "UFO groups" are also
closely connected to government personell in classified jobs, yet who deal
with purported "alien abductions" and advocate the reality of an
"extra-terrestrial" visitation of our planet, to a public curious about
unexplained flying objects, etc.)

3.  In the "Rockefeller UFO Disclosure Initiative to the Clinton White
House," which took place in 1993 through 1994, agents for Rockefeller
explicitly prohibited "mind influence" references from being presented to the
President for his consideration of the "UFO declassification" considerations
presented by Laurance S. Rockefeller, in spite of published reports and other
evidence of direct Rockefeller involvements in and funding of these types of
activities; in the past for CIA; but more recently out of government through
various academic and philanthropic initiatives and "non-profits," including
several high-profile "UFO organizations" and "alien abduction" information.
(References in "UFOs and Mental Health," by Bob Teets. Headline Books, Inc.,
'95.
P. O. Box 52, Terra Alta, WV 26764. 1-800-589-5951, or see Directory
Assistance in Area Code 304. Also online and at various postings across the
Internet, 1995-pres.)

4.  In her article "Microwave Harrassment," (Dec. 1992), anti-mind-control
activist Julianne McKinney alleged that Dr. John E. Mack had some connection
with the "human ecology" work that is referenced following. In a personal
interview in the presence of several of his staff and others, in his
Cambridge office (June 1993), Dr. Mack denied this to me (Dick Farley), i.e.,
that he had knowingly taken part in any CIA-sponsored psychiatric research.
However, Dr. Mack was indeed knowingly at that time (1993-1994) taking part
in "alien abduction research" sponsored directly and almost exclusively by
Laurance S. Rockefeller, such 

[CTRL] The Actor

2000-03-07 Thread Kris Millegan

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an excerpt from:
The Actor
Alan Stang©1968
All Rights Reserved
Western Islands
Belmont, Massachusetts 02178
346 pps. – pbck – out-of-print

please note:

From Das Goat:
--Oh, yes -- Viereck, a fascinating, many-sided character, best known, for the
purposes of THIS list, as the top German propagandist in America in WWI (being
in fact Kaiser Wilhelm's illegitimate grandson!!) and, as Himmler's friend,
the top NAZI propagandist in America during WWII.

Viereck was implicated in a plot to sabotage American factories as early as
1915.

By 1919, he was a full-fledged agent of the Kaiser, promoting anti-
Americanism.


The following snippets are from Marc J. Seifer's "Life and Times of Nikola
Tesla":

"In 1909 ... numerous dignitaries attended ... including Mark Twain and the
latest rising star in the world of poetry, the 24-year-old [wunderkind] George
Sylvester Viereck."

... "Although officially neutral, the sentiments of the majority of the
American population [before WWI] was with England, particularly after Germany
stormed through the peaceful kingdom of Belgium.  Nevertheless, fully one-
tenth of the US population was of German stock and their sentiments was on the
other side.  George Sylvester Viereck, the country's leading poet (and friend
of Tesla) ... courted Teddy Roosevelt and emissaries of President Wilson,
[pleading for neutrality].  Simultaneously, he began a new publication with
other leading German Americans [called] 'The Fatherland' ..." ...

"Viereck was a sensualist and cynic ... Having interviewed many of the
greatest minds of the epoch, the German-American intellectual had rattled the
souls of such individuals as Theodore Roosevelt, George Bernard Shaw,
occultist Aleister Crowley [who worked for him as a German agent -- while
spying ON him for British intelligence], H. G. Wells, Sigmund Freud, Albert
Einstein, Kaiser Wilhelm [grandpa], and Adolf Hitler [whom he admired].  A man
in contact with his irrational side, Viereck had passed many a day with Freud,
explicating the great theoretician's libido theory, influencing Freud's
writings ... 'Freud,' Viereck wrote, 'was motivated ... by a belief that each
individual represented a special expression of the World Spirit.'"

[Incongruous plug for Hegel !] ... "[Though] not an anti-Semite, Viereck, a
lifelong German apologist, was somehow sic able to rationalize the Nazi
[worldview] and became the American spokesman for Adolf Hitler ... [Freud]
said that Viereck suffered from 'narcissism, delusions of persecution, and a
fixation on ... debasing himself' ... "During one of a series of interviews
which Viereck conducted with Tesla, he revealed that Tesla [believed that]
'What we call the 'soul' or 'spirit' is nothing more than the sum of bodily
functions." [[Or so VIERECK told us.]] ... "... spurred by Viereck's
discussion [with him] of the Aryan vision, Tesla supported the idea of
'sterilizing the unfit and deliberately guiding the mating instinct.' " ...

"[Tesla was] in the habit of meeting with Viereck on a somewhat regular basis
..."  [Tesla was also anti-Semitic and openly pro-Nazi, according to FBI
files, and Viereck was apparently going out of his way to enlist Tesla and
others as anti-American spies for Germany] ... "Viereck was known to partake
of 'opium tincture' "  ... "In 1939, just as World War II was about to start,
George Sylvester Viereck set off on a surreptitious journey to the Fatherland.

There, amid the pageantry of swastikas and the Gestapo, he met yet again with
Adolf Hitler and received a communique signed by the Fuhrer in his own hand
...  Upon his return, Viereck continued his practice of preaching the Nazi
party line in a variety of publications, writing some articles under an
assumed name, interpreting FDR as having a 'messianic complex' and Hitler as
'a dynamic genius and a poet of passion.'  ... Viereck was arrested and
indicted on two counts of seditious conspiracy.  It was quickly established
that he was on the German payroll supposedly as a journalist but obviously as
a paid propagandist. Conceited and self-deluded, he was sent to jail, where he
wrote [fiction] for the next few years.  [Thereafter] Viereck's name was
dropped from many anthologies and [even] from Who's Who ..."  He died in 1962,
forgotten--

Om
K
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THE ACTOR

Mr. Keele, might I interrupt at that point? I noticed that there is a
tendency all through this investigation on the part of witnesses for the
foundations and for the endowments to engage in a lot of name dropping, big
names.

. . . and I think it would be far better to stick to ideas and stick to
thoughts and stick to sound facts than to try to prove arguments by the use
of names of certain individuals.

I don't think the naming of a name such as John Foster Dulles or Watson or
Moses or the Ten Commandments does anything to fortify the argument. That is
a personal opinion on my part. *
-- Congressman Donald L. O'Toole


[CTRL] The Mirrors of Washington - EDWARD M. HOUSE

2000-03-07 Thread Kris Millegan

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an excerpt from:
The Mirrors of Washington
ANONYMOUS
G.P. Putnam’s Sons©1921
Garden City, New York
256 pages – First edition – Out-of-print
-

EDWARD M. HOUSE

THE nature of Colonel Edward M. House was fully revealed by a story of his
youth, which he told me at Paris in the concluding moments of the Peace
Conference. He was elated and confident. The compromises in which he
delighted had been made. The gifts had all been bestowed-of territory which
men will have to fight for to keep, of reparations which will never be paid,
of alliances which will never be carried out, of a League of Nations which
the Colonel's own Nation will never enter.

Looking the work over with that blindness with which men are struck who are
under the dominion of another and stronger man's mind, his gentle soul was
flooded with happiness. He was as near boasting as one of his modest habits
could be, as his mind turned to the wisdom of his youth which had brought
forth this excellent fruit.

"I got my first real sight of polities," he said, "when I was a boy in
Cornell University. My great chum there was young Morton, a son of the
Republican war governor of Indiana. The HayesTilden contest over the
Presidency was being decided. Morton and I used to run away from Ithaca to
Washington during that absorbing fight. By reason of his father's position in
the Democratic party, he could get in behind the scenes as few young men
could; and he took me with him. I saw the whole amazing thing. I made up my
mind then and there that only three or four men in this country counted, and
that there was little chance of rising to be one of those three or four by
the ordinary methods."

He was, when he said this, at the apex of his career, behind the scenes of
the greatest World Congress ever held, following the greatest War the world
had ever known. And he had been behind the scenes as had no other man, in
Europe as a privileged onlooker with both belligerents, and in America as the
confidant of tremendous events.

He was there, as in his college days, at the Hayes-Tilden contest, by grace
of a friend whose influence had been sufficient to secure him his
opportunities. The parallel was in his mind, and he regarded it with
self-approval. He had chosen his course and chosen it wisely. It had led him
to the greatest peace-making in history.

There was a little more self-revelation. He and Morton had prepared for
college with Yale in view. But Morton had flunked his entrance examinations
at Yale and afterward succeeded in passing the Cornell tests. House had gone
to Cornell to be with his friend, an early indication of a capacity for
self-effacement, for attachment to the nearest great man at hand who could
take him behind the scenes.

The mystery of Colonel House is that he has been possessed all his life,
almost passionately, with that instinct which makes boys run* to fires. His
fastening upon the favorably placed, whether it was Morton in his youth, or
Wilson in his maturity, was not ordinary self-seeking, not having for its
object riches or power or influence. It was merely desire to see for the pure
love of seeing.

His is a boundless curiosity about both men and events. His eyes are the clue
to his character. Boardman Robinson, with the caricaturist's gift for
catching that feature which exhibits character, said to me one day during the
War, "I just passed Colonel House on the street. The most wonderful seeing
eyes I ever saw!"

Nature had made Colonel House all eyes—trivial in figure, undistinguished,
slightly ludicrous, almost shambling, shrinking under observation so that he
gained a reputation for mystery, with only one feature to catch your
attention, a most amazingly fine pair of eyes. It was as if nature had
concentrated on those eyes, treating all the puny rest of him with careless
indifference. They are eyes that delight in seeing, eyes to seek a place in
the first row of the grand stand of world events, eyes that turn steadily
outward upon objective reality. Not the eyes of a visionary—House got his
visions of the brotherhood of man and the rest of it at second-hand from
Wilson—eyes that glow not with the internal fires of a great soul, but with
the intoxication of the spectacle.

And with the eyes nature had given House an unerring instinct for getting
where, with his small figure, he could see. The ego of the passionate
spectator is as peculiar as that of the book col. lector or the curiosity
hunter. Given a shoulder tall enough the diminutive House perches upon it,
like a small boy watching a circus parade from his father's broad back,
whether the shoulder be Morton's in his youth, or Wilson's in his maturity.

Some have tried to explain House by saying that he had the vanity of loving
familiarity with the great; but I doubt if House cared for kings, as kings,
any more than a bibliomaniac cares for jade. He wanted to see; and kings were
merely tall objects on which to 

[CTRL] Skeptic News - Tuesday #2

2000-03-07 Thread Ric Carter

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SkeptiNews 000307b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

* Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
* PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh?
* Portal to notices, excuses, overflow, links: http://skepticon.pitas.com
* No humanoid robots were flown to Albuquerque to produce this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ Are You Demotivated Yet? http://www.demotivate.com/
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Sky lights are flares, not UFOs. PHOENIX, AZ. Look to the sky, conspiracy
  buffs: See the spheres of light floating eerily in the night sky. It's ...
  the return of the fabled "Phoenix lights!" Well, it's a flare-lit night-
  training exercise, which the Arizona Air National Guard says will be held
  on the Barry Goldwater Range near Gila Bend. A similar scenario - almost
  exactly 3 years ago - sparked an ongoing run of UFO buzz over mysterious
  lights in the sky. Coverup?? http://www.azcentral.com/news/0307ufo.shtml

# UFO POLITICS. "It's time that our presidential candidates woke up to the
  fact that a growing number of Americans take this subject seriously enough
  to consider it when casting their votes." UFOcity intends to make this a
  main course of business as we head into the presidential elections. Follow
  UFOcity.Com's Campaign Watch 2000: http://www.UFOcity.com/campaign2000.cfm

: Do all political/military/govt institutions routinely coverup their alien
links? Can public pressure force full disclosure? Would that be REAL disclo-
sure, or more disinfo? How could you tell? Are you enslaved by ignorance??

# Army frees 'slave'; is 'indefinite re-enlistment' involuntary servitude?
  http://worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_bresnahan/2307_xex_army_release.shtml
# Tough on alien criminals: http://insidedenver.com:80/news/0301rule2.shtml
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Good Pot, Bad Pot. (Wired) One study says pot could help patients with
  multiple sclerosis. Another says it can give you a heart attack. Is some-
  body stoned? http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,34724,00.html

# HAY-FEVER MEDICATION WORSE THAN ALCOHOL IN IMPAIRING DRIVER SKILLS -
  better drunk than dosed: http://CNN.com/2000/HEALTH/03/06/allergy.driving/
# HERBS MAY CAUSE UNEXPECTED BLEEDING AFTER SURGERY - ginseng, gingko biloba
  and other herbs: http://CNN.com/2000/HEALTH/03/06/anesthesia.herbs/index
@ Which Saw Palmetto  Ginko Biloba Stuff To Buy http://www.consumerlab.com/
# Prozac Pulls Stocks? http://slate.msn.com/Earthling/00-03-03/Earthling.asp

: What's your favorite herbal product? Does it impair/injure/infect you? Do
you care? Do contradictory test results just reveal the richness/complexity
of observable reality? Does reality intrude on your health, or vice-versa??

# Rabies vs. HIV. (BBC) Scientists have uncovered a new weapon in the fight
  against HIV - the rabies virus. Virologists have developed a HIV vaccine
  using a weakened rabies virus to carry a piece of the HIV virus safely
  into the cells of laboratory mice. The cells responded by creating immune
  system antibodies to attack the fragment, fighting off the HIV virus.
  Zowie. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_667000/667971.stm
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# The future of Humanoid Robots. (DSC) Owning your own mechanical servant
  may happen a lot sooner than you think, say our expert panelists. The big
  question is: Just how human should they be? And should they be allowed to
  drink, drive, vote?  http://www.discover.com/mar_00/featfuture.html

@ Panel Participants: Alan Schultz: www.aic.nrl.navy.mil/~schultz;
@ Kazuhiko Kawamura: http://mot.vuse.vanderbilt.edu/ece/~kawamura.htm
  Center for Intelligent Systems http://shogun.vuse.vanderbilt.edu/CIS
@ Joe Herkert: http://www4.ncsu.edu/unity/users/j/jherkert/jrh.html;
@ Sebastian Thrun, Robot Learning Lab: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~rll
@ Joe Engelberger: http://www.helpmaterobotics.com
@ Marvin Minsky: http://www.media.mit.edu/~minsky
@ John McCarthy: http://www-formal.stanford.edu/jmc.

# Robots right for defense, health care, scientist says. ALBUQUERQUE, N.M.
  Within decades, simple robots could be defending America, monitoring its
  environment for poisons  helping an elderly nation control - and perhaps
  reduce - its growing health care bill. But should we intermarry with'em?
  http://insidedenver.com/shns/story.cfm?pk=SPACEROBOTICS-03-01-00cat=AS

: How many robots are enough? Will we need robot slaves to help us conquer
the universe? When will robots outsmart/dominate us? Will they keep us as
pets? Will they breed us into interesting new forms, like human Chihuahuas?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Godz'R'Us:

# Spring has come to Bob Jones University in Greenville, S.C. (Time) Wander
  by the bookstore  see material on Catholicism under the heading "Cults."
  "The Pope isn't necessarily THE Antichrist. He is AN Antichrist." Is that
  clear? 

[CTRL] Mis-Missile Tests

2000-03-07 Thread Alamaine

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From
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a38c4956a5a84.htm

{{Begin}}
Ex-Employee Says Contractor Faked Results of Missile Tests
News/Current Events News
Source: New York Times
Published: 03/07/00 Author: By WILLIAM J. BROAD
Posted on 03/06/2000 21:36:42 PST by JohnHuang2 March 7, 2000
Ex-Employee Says Contractor Faked Results of Missile Tests
By WILLIAM J. BROAD

A former senior engineer at TRW, a top military contractor, has charged the
company with faking tests and evaluations of a key component for the proposed
$27 billion antimissile system and then firing her when she protested.

The engineer, Dr. Nira Schwartz, was on the company's antimissile team in 1995
and 1996 helping design computer programs meant to enable interceptors to
distinguish between incoming warheads and decoys. In test after test, the
interceptors failed, she has alleged, but her superiors insisted that the
technology performed adequately, refused her appeals to tell industrial
partners and federal patrons of its shortcomings, and then fired her.

Dr. Schwartz has made her charges in interviews and in newly unsealed documents
filed with a federal district court in Los Angeles, where nearly four years ago
she sued TRW. She seeks to recover for the government more than a half-billion
dollars, some part of which a judge could award her as compensation.
In interviews and court filings, TRW has vigorously denied the charges. But
citing the pending litigation, it has refused to address many details of the
accusations.

Right or wrong, the investigations surrounding Dr. Schwartz's claims are
shedding light on a contentious and secretive program. The Clinton
administration has said it will decide this summer whether to proceed with an
antimissile system meant to defend against warheads from so-called rogue
states. Russia and other countries warn that such a decision could undermine a
treaty limiting antimissile defenses that has served as a pillar of arms
control.

In 1998 the Pentagon rejected the TRW interceptor as the leading antimissile
candidate in favor of a rival design by Raytheon. However, it is still a backup
and could win the lead role since the Raytheon design has stumbled in recent
flights.

Dr. Schwartz's charges have split the Defense Department. Some top officials
defend TRW as innocent, and the Justice Department has so far declined to join
her lawsuit. But a three-year inquiry by the Pentagon's Defense Criminal
Investigative Service, which ended last August with no action, cited in its
final report "numerous technical discrepancies" that "appear to warrant further
review."

Moreover, former TRW employees back Dr. Schwartz. In an affidavit filed in
connection with her suit, Roy Danchick, a retired senior engineer at TRW, said
he had firsthand knowledge of TRW's "impermissibly manipulating" a study of the
antimissile technology and "censoring the test data" so it appeared more
successful than it was.

Dr. Schwartz's allegations center on TRW's certifying to the government that
interceptors using its computer programs would succeed more than 95 percent of
the time in picking out enemy warheads, even if they were hidden in a confusing
blur of decoys in space. In fact, Dr. Schwartz said in court documents, the
interceptors could do so only 5 to 15 percent of the time.

Her charges are coming to light now because many secret court filings have been
unsealed at her request and she is seeking public support for her case.

Dr. Schwartz, 53, a naturalized United States citizen from Israel, has a Ph.D.
in engineering from Tel Aviv University and holds 18 United States patents,
including ones involving computerized image analysis and pattern recognition.

TRW hired her to help develop computerized algorithms that are meant to enable
an interceptor to differentiate between real and fake warheads by matching
memories of threatening images against a rush of incoming sensor data.
Dr. Schwartz said in an interview that in time she had concluded that all the
current discrimination technologies were too feeble to work and that at some
level the Pentagon and its contractors were in collusion.

"It's not a defense of the United States," she said, eyes flashing. "It's a
conspiracy to allow them to milk the government. They are creating for
themselves a job for life."

According to court records, Dr. Schwartz was hired as a senior engineer by TRW
on Sept. 5, 1995, joining the company's space group in Redondo Beach, Calif.
TRW was allied with Rockwell (later bought by Boeing amid defense
consolidations) in a competition to build a "kill vehicle," which would zoom
into space atop rockets and smash enemy warheads to pieces.
The work for which Dr. Schwartz was hired, enabling the kill vehicle to spot
enemy targets, represented the soul of the machine.

"She is almost uniquely qualified to strengthen the interplay" among TRW
specialists pursuing image analysis and object recognition, her 

[CTRL] ReichstagFire.CoM

2000-03-07 Thread Alamaine

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From http://www.americanpartisan.com/cols/mcelroy/030400.htm

{{Begin}}
ReichstagFire.Com
by Wendy McElroy

A few weeks after Hitler became Chancellor of Germany, the parliament building
in Berlin -- the Reichstag -- was set ablaze. Hitler used public hysteria over
the fire to suspend constitutional liberties and eliminate opponents. Most
historians blame the Nazis themselves for the fire that so conveniently
cemented their power.

I am not a conspiracy theorist, although conspiracies undoubtedly exist. I lack
the ability to distinguish an intricate plot from a mass of coincidence.
Nevertheless, a theory floating on Usenet groups makes up in charm for what it
lacks in credibility. The theory runs...the slew of so-called hacker attacks
that have caused the denial of service (DoS) to major sites was executed by the
Clinton Administration. The motive? To justify imposing controls on the
Internet, to facilitate taxing e-Commerce and to maintain the budget.

Consider the chain of coincidence. In his State of the Union Address (January
27), Clinton declares electronic law enforcement to be a high priority. Three
days later, the National Security Agency (NSA) publicly confesses that its
computer system was down for four days in late January. Since when has the NSA
talked to the national press about its failures and faults? Then, the FBI
speculates that a single teenager might have paralyzed what is arguably the
most sophisticated computer system in the world. Authorities conclude that
national interest cannot be guaranteed through intricate security measures. It
must be maintained through stringent enforcement. Apparently the fifteen-month
jail sentence and $36,000 fine imposed upon 'Zyklon,' who defaced the White
House's Web page, is not stringent enough.

And, lest the government seem self-serving at the expenses of civil liberties
and the public's interest in general, what happens next? The private sector is
attacked next. A major news source (CNN), the largest search engine (Yahoo), a
mega ISP (AOL), a marketplace (eBay), a university (Stanford), a bookseller
(Amazon), Wall St. (eTrade) and a vendor of innocent children's toys (eToy)...a
representative from virtually every segment of society has fallen victim to
DoS. The message is clear: no one from the NSA to America's toddlers is safe.
Again, enforcement is *the* answer. The authorities announced a suspect who
closely resembles a fallguy. He is 'mafiaboy' -- a fifteen year old Canadian
who, along with legions of other teenagers, took credit for the attacks on IRC
chat.

Meanwhile, even the myopic CNN comments, "The attacks that crippled Yahoo and
at least seven other top sites this month could prove a boon to law enforcement
officials seeking more funding from Congress." Reichstag Reno estimates that
the Justice Department will require a $37 million increase in funding next year
to fight cybercrime. She also wants to amend the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act
so that telephone calls and computer communication that cross jurisdictions can
be monitored by government. FBI Director Louis Freeh chimes in, "Without the
ability of law enforcement to get court-ordered access to plaintext, we're
going to be out of business." Freeh railed against "hactivism" and encryption
programs, naming PGP specifically. Of course, e-tapping and decrypting the
Internet would facilitate taxing it as well.

Meanwhile, Israel -- a nation that routinely backs U.S. policy -- is also
warning the world about hackers. A conference entitled "Y2Hack" is scheduled to
occur in Tel Aviv in late March as part of the fourth annual Internet World
tradeshow. Anat Maor, who heads the Israeli Parliament's Committee for
Scientific and Technological Research and Development, wrote a letter of
protest to the Attorney General of Israel asking that speakers and attendees be
refused admittance into the country. Repeated assurances that the conference
consists of 'hackers' (white hat programmers) rather than 'crackers' (black
hatted ones) has not moved Maor. Coincidence?

As with most conspiracy theories, the foregoing one that indicts Clinton for
DoS attacks contains at least three egregious flaws.

First, I offer no real evidence.

Second, if this theory is true, then we will have to re-examine whether the
phone company actually did kill JFK.

Third, alternative and plausible explanations exist. A DoS attack is a
relatively simple tactic. DoS renders a site's service unavailable by
bombarding it with so many bogus demands that legitimate ones cannot get
through, rather like paralyzing a telephone system by overwhelming it with
prank calls. Many sites on the Web offer the programs and tools necessary to
launch a DoS attack. For example, a free online chapter entitled "War Tools:
Scan, Sniff, Spoof and Hijack" from *The Happy Hacker* describes both DoS
tactics and how to counter them. The DoS attacks could have come from anyone.
Including the 

Re: [CTRL] Waco Protest Today!

2000-03-07 Thread William Shannon

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In a message dated 3/7/00 10:30:51 AM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 This was probably your attitude seven years ago when the "Bill Clinton
 Murderers of The Children of Waco"  

Also known as the "Waco Wacko Davidiot BBQ And Bonfire"???

Bill.

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[CTRL] The Kept University

2000-03-07 Thread Alamaine

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Lead-in to a four-part article from
http://www.theatlantic.com/cgi-bin/o/issues/2000/03/press.htm

{{Begin}}
M A R C H  2 0 0 0

The Kept University

Commercially sponsored research is putting at risk the paramount value of
higher education -- disinterested inquiry. Even more alarming, the authors
argue, universities themselves are behaving more and more like for-profit
companies

by Eyal Press and Jennifer Washburn
(The online version of this article appears in four parts. Click here to go to
part two, part three, or part four.)

IN the fall of 1964 a twenty-one-year-old Berkeley undergraduate named Mario
Savio climbed the steps of Sproul Hall and denounced his university for bending
over backwards to "serve the need of American industry." Savio, the leader of
the Berkeley Free Speech Movement, accused the university of functioning as "a
factory that turns out a certain product needed by industry" rather than
serving as the conscience and a critic of society. To the modern ear this
sixties rhetoric may sound outdated. To many people in the academic world,
however, Savio's words ring truer today than ever. Although our national
conversation about higher education remains focused on issues of diversity and
affirmative action, nothing provoked more debate on many college campuses last
year than the growing ties between universities and business -- and nowhere was
the debate livelier than at Berkeley.

 Remainder at site 

~~~

Eyal Press is a contributing writer at Lingua Franca. Jennifer Washburn is a
writer based in New York. They are both fellows at the Open Society Institute,
where they are examining the privatization of the public sphere.

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Re: [CTRL] common programs used with abuse survivors

2000-03-07 Thread Smart News

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Hi !

Below please find a URL with information about common programs found in
survivors of ritual abuse.

Sincerely,  Neil Brick

Survivors of abuse may want to use caution while reading this. You might want
to read it with a support person present.

from http://www.xroads.com/rahome/library/programming/com_prog.htm

"Common Programs Observed in Survivors of Satanic Ritualistic Abuse
David W. Neswald, M.A. M.F.C.C. in collaboration with Catherine Gould, Ph.D.
and Vicki Graham-Costain, Ph.D. The California Therapist, Sept./Oct. 1991,
47-50 Introduction"

"So called cult "programs" are really no more than conditioned
stimulus-response sequences consistent with basic learning theory. Such
conditioning is achieved through a large variety of sophisticated and
sadistic mind control strategies involving the combined application of
physical pain, double-bind coercion, psychological terror, and split brain
stimulation. All programs are stimulus-sensate triggered. Thus, programs may
be enacted (triggered) via auditory, visual, tactile, olfactory and/or
gustatory modalities. Classical, operant, and observational/modeling
paradigms all are utilized by the cults and their "programmers." "

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[CTRL] Drudge: EX-EMPLOYEE SAYS CONTRACTOR FAKED RESULTS (fwd)

2000-03-07 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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XXX DRUDGE REPORT X MONDAY MARCH 06 2000 20:51:41 ET XXX

EX-EMPLOYEE SAYS CONTRACTOR FAKED RESULTS OF MISSILE TESTS

A former senior engineer at TRW, a top military contractor, has
charged the company with faking tests and evaluations of a key
component for the proposed $27 billion U.S. antimissile system
and then firing her when she protested, the NEW YORK TIMES is
planning to report in Tuesday runs.

According to publishing sources, Times reporter Bill Broad has
been building the shock story over the past 3 weeks.

"The engineer, Dr. Nira Schwartz, was on the company's
antimissile team in 1995 and 1996 helping design computer
programs meant to enable interceptors to distinguish between
incoming warheads and decoys," reports Broad, in a Page One
exclusive, above the fold.

"In test after test, the interceptors failed, she has alleged,
but her superiors insisted that the weapon performed adequately,
refused her appeals to tell industrial partners and federal
patrons of its shortcomings, and then fired her."

Developing Hot...

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[CTRL] How they have gathered their power, are matters that lie behind a cloud of mystery

2000-03-07 Thread Kris Millegan

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an excerpt from:
The Memorial Quadrangle
R. D French
Yale University Press©1929
459 pps – Second Edition – Out-of-print

The author is Skull and Bones 1910.
Om
K


The decoration of the exterior of the Quadrangle, unlike that in the seven
courts, touches but seldom on the intimate affairs of our college life. The
curious, however, searching the upper reaches of the Elm Street facade, will
see certain symbols carved upon the stones, just above the upper windows of
the oblong bays. They are the emblems of the three Senior Societies in Yale
College, once familiar enough to the eyes of the campus world, when the
members of these organizations displayed the golden tokens of their
allegiance on their neckties, but now seldom seen. A veil of silence, never
quite understood and hardly explicable, hangs over the life and the power of
these strange institutions. Some day, perhaps, when our undergraduate life
has entirely altered, and the Senior Societies have gone the way of Linonia,
of Brothers in Unity, and Calliope, some antiquarian will spread the story of
their ways before the world, as a singular chapter in the annals of Yale. For
the present, the visitor who is a stranger to our ways will find that his
queries meet with baffling evasions and vague uncertainties. There these
symbols are, overlooking the passing crowd, as the institutions for which
they stand have overlooked the life of Yale for the better part of a century,
affecting it and guiding it in ways that are hard to understand; but just
what these institutions are, or how they have gathered their power, are
matters that lie behind a cloud of mystery. While the societies stand, the
visitor will find no Yale man who is ready to answer his questions about
them; and no man who has not lived through his four years at Yale can form
even the vaguest notion of what these things may be.

pps. 421-422

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[CTRL] Bonesmen George W. Bush ('68), Governor of Texas and . . .

2000-03-07 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://www.parascope.com/articles/0997/skullbones.htm
Click Here: A HREF="http://www.parascope.com/articles/0997/skullbones.htm"Th
e Order of Skull and Bones/A
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From the past to the future; at least is happens just one day at a time . . .
Om
K

written 1996

11. World History: Plan or Accident?

Will we get another failed Democratic administration? A scandal as
disgraceful as Nixon's fall? When Robert P. Johnson (William Barr) told
Clinton in a bunker in Arkansas that "you are our fair-haired boy, but you do
have competition for the job you seek. We would never put all our eggs in one
basket. You and your state have been our greatest asset Mr. Casey wanted
me to pass on to you, that unless you fuck up and do something stupid, you
are number one on our short list for shot at the job you always wanted."

So, you have William Casey -- CIA Director, George Bush's campaign manager
and Sovereign Knight of Malta -- speaking through the proxy of George Bush's
last Attorney General to George's rival in the 1992 federal elections. Is it
all just a show and sham for U.S. hoi polloi?

Perhaps so, if there exists the type of control over the electoral process as
told by Mae Brussell and the suppressed book "VoteScam," written by Jim and
Ken Collier:

"...Your vote and mine may now be a meaningless bit of energy directed by
preprogrammed computers-which can be fixed to select certain pre-ordained
candidates and leave no footprints or paper trail.

"In short, computers are covertly stealing your vote.

"--For almost three decades the American vote has been subject to
government-sponsored electronic theft.

"--The vote has been stolen from you by a cartel of federal "national
security" bureaucrats, who include higher-ups in the Central Intelligence
Agency, political party leaders, Congressmen, co-opted journalists -- and the
owners and managers -- of the major Establishment news media, who have
decided in concert that how America's votes are counted, by whom they are
counted and how the results are verified and delivered to the public is, as
one of them put it, 'Not a proper area of inquiry.'

"--By means of an unofficial private corporation named News Election Service (
NES), the Establishment press has actual physical control of the counting and
dissemination of the vote, and it refuses to let the public know how it is
done."

Is the American electorate subjected to cyclic propaganda, pre-selected
candidates and winners, and psychological warfare to alienate Americans from
the institutions established to serve them by the Constitution? Are the
Democratic and Republican National Parties used for a Hegellian experiment in
controlled conflict?

Pamela Churchill Harriman, Averil's wife, is one of the Democratic Party's
biggest fund-raisers. She once gave Bill a job as director of her "PAM PAC"
when he was defeated for governor in 1980. Bill paid her back by appointing
her as Ambassador to France.

Another Harriman/Bush friend, Eugene Stetson ('34), was an assistant manager
for Prescott Bush at Brown Brothers, Harriman's New York office. He organized
the H. Smith Richardson Foundation. The foundation, in the late 1950s,
participated in the MKULTRA, the CIA's domestic covert psychological warfare
operation. The Richardson Foundation helped to finance the testing of
psychotropic drugs, including LSD, at Bridgewater Hospital in Massachusetts,
the center of some of the most brutal MK-ULTRA experiments.

During the Iran-Contra operations, the H. Smith Richardson Foundation was a
"private donors steering committee," working with the National Security
Council to co-ordinate the Office of Public Diplomacy. This was an effort to
propagandize in favor of and run cover for the Iran-Contra operations, and to
coordinate published attacks on opponents of the program.

The H. Smith Richardson Foundation also runs the Center for Creative
Leadership at Langley to "train leaders of the CIA," as well as another
center near Greensboro, North Carolina, that trains CIA and Secret Service
Agents. Almost everyone who achieves the military rank of general also gets
this training.

This is just the tip of an iceberg. You also have eugenics and population
control, suppressed history and technology, yearly retreats, profitable
partnerships with brutal dictators, deals with "terrorists", the involvement
of the Knights of Malta, war-mongering and profiteering, mind-control, secret
societies for teens, ritual magic and more -- all spinning the dark threads
in the web of conspiracy that our spinning blue ball has gotten caught in.

We've got a whole new crop of "Bonesmen" coming up, including George H.W.
Bush's son George W. Bush ('68), Governor of Texas.

When Don Schollander ('68), the Olympic gold-medalist and only known Skull
and Bones member living in Portland, was contacted by Willamette Week
reporter John Schrang regarding his involvement in the Order, he said, 

[CTRL] Rich;s Rants IRS more

2000-03-07 Thread lloyd

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..

From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]:
Conspiracy Shopping Cart: http://a-albionic.com/shopping.html

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Subject: Rich;s Rants   IRS  more
Date: Saturday, March 04, 2000 5:17 AM

 © 2000 Rich Martin
   Permission to repost in full, or in part, is granted.


 From the Home of Rich  Peggy Martin

   Grand Prairie, TX 75050   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   Why don't they ask: how much is the govt financing the veep's
   campaign to fend off the challengers privately funded campaign?
   ___

   RICH'S RANTS

   Well, the IRS finally responded to our appeal. Actually,
   in IRS terms, that was less than a dog-year. As you might
   remember, the IRS ruled our company had to start paying our
   employees payroll taxes to them via electronic funds
   transfer (EFT) effective last July instead of thru one of
   their "authorized financial institutions" (that's what the
   rest of us call banks) and they charged us a 10% penalty as
   mandated by NAFTA even though all payments were made before
   the due date.

   To all of you who said (or thought): they can't do that,
   let me tell you, they can. Alan Keyes is wrong. Might does
   make right, just ask Milosevic---but they rescinded their
   penalty anyway. All $15,000 of it. Happy days, the govt is
   NOT going to rip us off of another $15K of hidden taxes. My
   boss was ecstatic when I told him. Don't tell anyone, but I
   got a hug. And you know what, I know this same scene had to
   going on all around America. We aren't the only company hit
   by their newest NAFTA tax stealth deadline. I'll bet there
   is many a tax payer who rolled over and paid their share of
   the "surplus" taxes. I'll bet there's many an accountant/
   bookkeeper who lost their job when the tax notice came in.

   I've been thinking: why do they want us to send our
   money via EFT. It's not like they need it like a private
   corp would. My first thought was it gave them better control
   somehow, but I couldn't figure out how. Now I think I've got
   it. Banks used to make a lot of money acting as tax
   collectors for the govt. The govt is squeezing out the
   middleman, right? So the question is: who's got the monopoly
   on fees for EFTs? Want to be it'll turn out to be Standard
   Oil's Citi-Bank?

   I don't like feeling that cynical about the govt I once
   served proudly, but how can you help it? Look around you.
   Why did we "save" the Royal Family in Kuwait, and why did we
   look the other way when they exported all the commoners to
   lands of their forefathers? Why do we continue to make war
   on Iraq, now that the oilfields are safe (for US)? Why did
   we leave Somalia after one squad got a bloody nose? Why are
   we fighting with Muslims to cleanse Serb Christians and
   destabilize Yugoslavia? Why did we carve Bosnia out of
   Serbia? What was the ideal we were willing to bomb Haiti
   with B-52's (thank you Jimmy Carter, for preventing that)
   that was never accomplished? And why doesn't it matter now?
   There's got to be a reason for the troops in Kosovo, other
   than to maintain the lie about the 100,000 to 1,000,000
   people buried in non-existent mass graves. Why are we
   willing to blockade the people of Cuba because we don't like
   their chosen leader? Ditto for Austria.

   Remember the "gay" rooster? Sometimes things aren't what
   the appear. Starr wasn't a hardnosed prosecutor, he was a
   pussycat. Bill Clinton didn't go to Bangkok, Indonesia and
   all these little nations to take in the sights. What did
   Hell-ary do in Africa while spending more money in a month
   than Starr did in 4 years? Why does Clinton favor Tony
   Blair, Yeltsin and Israel's Labor Party, but his
   predecessors favored all of their political opponents? Oh,
   so many dots, and so few lines to connect.

   Why/how did Clinton escape conviction after his
   impeachment when greater men have fallen for less? How can
   he attend 100 fundraisers a year when he's not out of the
   country? What does his veep do, besides attending twice as
   many fund raisers each year? (By the way, his new political
   advisers dress him a lot better than Tipper ever did, don't
   you think?)

   I've got a working theory, but I'm still assembling the
   pieces. Hell-ary has a lawyers background (Rose Law Firm
   and all that Whitewater stuff), so is it reasonable to
   assume she's 

Re: [CTRL] Bonesmen George W. Bush ('68), Governor of Texas and . . .

2000-03-07 Thread tenebroust

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On Tue, 07 March 2000, Kris Millegan wrote:


 -Caveat Lector-   A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"
 /A -Cui Bono?-

 from:
 http://www.parascope.com/articles/0997/skullbones.htm
 Click Here: A HREF="http://www.parascope.com/articles/0997/skullbones.htm"Th
 e Order of Skull and Bones/A
 -
 From the past to the future; at least is happens just one day at a time . . .
 Om
 K
 
 written 1996

 11. World History: Plan or Accident?

 Will we get another failed Democratic administration? A scandal as
 disgraceful as Nixon's fall? When Robert P. Johnson (William Barr) told
 Clinton in a bunker in Arkansas that "you are our fair-haired boy, but you do
 have competition for the job you seek. We would never put all our eggs in one
 basket. You and your state have been our greatest asset Mr. Casey wanted
 me to pass on to you, that unless you fuck up and do something stupid, you
 are number one on our short list for shot at the job you always wanted."

 So, you have William Casey -- CIA Director, George Bush's campaign manager
 and Sovereign Knight of Malta -- speaking through the proxy of George Bush's
 last Attorney General to George's rival in the 1992 federal elections. Is it
 all just a show and sham for U.S. hoi polloi?


snip
This is another excellent piece and good food for thought.  With votescam and the 
"stealing" of the presidency that it represents, as well as the behind-the-doors 
deal-making that goes on, it is a wonder to me that anyone thinks that anything 
happens by chance, or the "will of the people".  The more I perceive of the 
conspiratorial nature of the society we live in the more I am convinced of the 
validity of these "rogue" groups and elite controllers (or would-be controllers) 
running the schemes that give us the legacy that we have today.  That of less personal 
privacy, more governmental controls, less voice in leadership, and etc.

"Welcome to the desert of the real."  Morpheus, in The Matrix

"My God it's full of stars!"  Dave Bowman, in 2001: A Space
Odyssey


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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Tuesday #3

2000-03-07 Thread Ric Carter

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SkeptiNews 000307c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

* Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
* PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh?
* Portal to notices, excuses, overflow, links: http://skepticon.pitas.com
* No noisy cosmic catastrophes were engineered to produce this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ Conehead: http://www.srv.net/~bhw/conehd2.jpg
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Japan: 30% view fertilized eggs as humans - human eggs become human beings
  when fertilized and therefore should never be exploited. 70% think human
  eggs should be fried  eaten: http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/newse/0307sc13.htm

# Human Genetics, The DOE, Lockheed Martin,  Nuclear Weapons. There's some-
  thing very unique  special in the human DNA, and the wizards and warlocks
  at the highest levels of the US government, academic and corporate worlds
  are trying to decipher it. This is a huge effort on a par with the push to
  develop the atomic bomb. http://www.sightings.com/politics6/gends.htm

: Do humans and other lifeforms need protection before/after birth/death? Do
humanity and personhood necessarily overlap? Are you one of those bigots who
doesn't like nonhuman persons, nonperson humans, disincarnate intelligences?
Is human DNA special, or just a set of variations on a widely-used code? Eh?

# Give a dog a clone. The vet says that Goldie, the family pet labrador, is
  suffering from old age and will have to be put down. Today all you can do
  is comfort the children. But very soon, if you have enough money, you will
  be able to order up a carbon copy clone of Goldie, maybe re-engineered to
  be somewhat less flatulent: http://www.independent.ie/2000/66/d11a.shtml
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Call It the SyDNA Olympics. (Wired) SYDNEY, Aus. -- If you buy official
  merchandise at this year's Sydney Olympics, you'll be taking home a piece
  of one of Australia's top athletes. The ink derived from the undisclosed
  athlete's DNA has been placed on each piece of official Olympic merchand-
  ise to thwart counterfeiters. The ink is invisible, impossible to reverse-
  engineer, and easy to check with special scanners no larger than a garage
  door-opener. In short, it's a biotechnology security tag. And you can
  clone the donor: http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,34774,00.html

# U.K. Crypto Law a Key Issue. (Wired) British politicians all agree that
  police need new powers to read the email of drug dealers, terrorists,
  and pedophiles. But campaigners are furious that other Net users are
  about to lose their right of innocence until proven guilty. Bend over
  and smile: http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,34776,00.html

: What's your favorite security measure? Is DNA goo because it's secure; not
so good because of the cloning potential; aesthetically pleasing; tasteful?
Is security worth any price, any sacrifice, any imposition? Are you secure?

# NSA Crypto Museum: http://www.npr.org/ramfiles/wesat/2304.wesat.12.ram
# Coolio fries: Off the hook for the DDoS frenzy, he now faces charges for
  other hack-attacks. http://wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,34741,00.html
# MicroSoft Gives Grants to Solve DoS Attacks - search  destroy, leave none
  alive, burn their brains: http://techweb.com/wire/story/TWB2302S0012
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Cosmic Catastrophe: Planetary Alignments and Cosmic Disasters. The word is
  out: The planets come into alignment in May, 2000, and some are predicting
  that Earth will be affected by cosmic forces that will trigger a "cosmic
  catastrophe." http://www.griffithobs.org/Planetarium.html#anchor4181640

@ Planetary Alignments 2000: http://www.griffithobs.org/SkyAlignments.html
@ Alignments  Destruction: http://www.teleport.com/~tcollins/conjunct.shtml
@ Alignments - Why Panic? http://www.skypub.com/news/special/whypanic.html
@ Planetary Alignments: http://www.sunspot.noao.edu/PR/alignment.html
@ Alignments Cause Quakes: http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/planets.html
@ Planet Conjunctions: http://drumright.ossm.edu/astronomy/conjunctions.html

@ CALENdeRsign® - THE ALIGNMENTS OF THE NAKED EYE PLANETS - PRECURSERS OF
  THE PLANETARY BEAD OF 5-5-2000. The "time turning" point approaches! A
  very rare and remarkable planetary alignment is taking place! Give your-
  self up! http://www.calendersign.ric.at/english/alignment2000random.htm
@ 60 days to go until the planetary bead in May 2000. Help us plan the
  ceremony at time turning point: http://www.calendersign.ric.at/mayfest.htm

: Are you prepared for the inevitable catastrophe(s)? Was your home planet
torn apart recently? How did you escape? D'ya run from planetary alignments?
To where? Have you warned us, or do we deserve our fate? Are we that bad??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Volcano Mayon To Cool World Temperatures - Again. SINGAPORE (Reuters) -
  While villagers living near Mayon