Re: [CTRL] OEN 4/17/00

2000-04-18 Thread Alamaine

Has there ever been a movie made about the 'Holocaust' "sufferers" who were
sold out by their own people, namely the Kapos that ruled over the ghettos and
the camps?  The folks that were sort of intermediaries between the 'campers'
and the camp 'management'?  I can't seem to recall where I discovered this
complicity between those at the medium to higher echelons of the power
structure ... it may have been even in the print version of *Schindler's List*
or maybe in some books I read while in Germany between visits to some of the
camps.

Having been an incarceree at one point of my life (19 hours too long for a few
too many drinks before driving), I was able to observe the pecking order in the
local hoosegow.  There are the inmates and then above them are the inTImates,
named 'trustees' for their trustworthiness to the jailers.  Of course, who at
the bottom gives information to the 'trustees' who may in turn pass it on to
the jailers?  Wasn't there long enough to find out but I can understand how
that sort of thing might just happen -- the jailers' agents on the inside.
'Translators' after a fashion.

Seeing and being in the 'camps' gave me a sense of deja vu all over again.
Although the WW2 and my specific situations were generations and cultures
apart, there are comparisons and similarities between the two, foremost among
them the profound sense of isolation and helplessness when deprived of personal
liberty with the future uncertain, being at the mercy of the keepers AND the
inmates, as well as realising there's a whole 'nother set of rules (protocol)
(regarding even the simplest things like processes of elimination) on the
inside.

What seems ironic to me is all this finger-pointing at only the highest layers
of the hierarchy when even the ones who work both ends from the middle just
might have been the master link in the chain, which, if removed, would have
rendered the machine idle and useless.  But who would sacrifice that one
essential link for the sake of the many?  Who could suggest that a soul (or
cell) mate would be a judicial ('Juden'?) Judas?

AER


 How dare you diminish the market value of Swindler's List.

 STEVEN SPIELBERG, the Oscar-winning director of the Holocaust movie
 Schindler's List, was one of the main financial backers of the American
 academic unsuccessfully sued by the disgraced historian, David Irving.


Integrity has no need of rules. -Albert Camus (1913-1960)
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking
new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust

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[CTRL] Fwd: Kidnapping Pays

2000-04-18 Thread nessie

Right wing Cuban exile groups continue to rake in tens of thousands of
dollars from the Eli_n Gonz_lez case.

A "Trust" fund supposedly to pay for legal expenses such a photocopies
has now topped $200,000 according to Armando GutiErrez, spokesperson for
the
distant relatives who are keeping Eli_n despite his father's insistent
demands that he be returned to him.

Full details in the Miami Herald:

http://www.herald.com/content/today/news/dade/digdocs/074663.htm

n
in the middle had a VERY PINK penis.

While the couple was scratching their heads trying to figure this out,
the artist walked by and noticed the couple's confusion. "Can I help
you with this painting?" he asked.

"Well, yes" said the gentleman.  "We were curious about this picture
of the black men on the bench.  Why is it that the man in the middle
has a pink penis?"

"Oh" said the artist. "I'm afraid you've misinterpreted the painting.
The three men are not black, they're coal miners, and the fellow in
the middle went home for lunch!"



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17.  Mayday Listening



On Monday May 1 2000, KPFA in conjunction with LaborNet and LaborFest
will be programming a day devoted to working class issues. From  writer
Tillie Olson and Mumia and labor to South Africa and El Salvador, make
sure you and  your fellow brothers  sisters are tuned in for this
exciting and historic day of labor programming.
You can also find the full schedule for the programming   at
www.labornet.org.
Solidarity Has No Borders!


Tentative Schedule of Programs
Listen Live World Wide On www.kpfa.org
Monday May 1, 2000




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18.  May Day Procession and Mask Making Workshops



PRESS RELEASE

DATE: March 28, 2000
CONTACT:  Michael Schwartz 520-388-9553 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

For Immediate Release

May Day Procession and Mask Making Workshops !

The Tucson Arts Brigade announces the third annual May Day Puppet
Procession

and Mask making workshops. Workshops are every Monday and Wednesday in
April

from 6-8pm. Special family workshops are on Friday's from 2:30 to 5pm
(April

7, 14, 21, 28)  Workshops are held at the Community Arts Lab (CAL) located
at
901 13th Ave (west on 2nd St from Stone in the Splinter Brothers Studios)
There is a requested $2 donation for classes. Tucson Tokens are accepted.
Call 388-9553, or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more information.

On SATURDAY APRIL 29, 5pm we will gather at the Dunbar Spring Community
Garden , located on University Ave. just east of Main St. for a colorful
May
Day Procession and Carnival !




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19.  May 7th Day for Mumia at Madison Square Garden



MAY 7 TICKETS AVAILABLE!

Tickets for the May 7th Day for Mumia rally at the Theater at
Madison Square Garden are now available at the International
Action Center office and at the web site www.leftbooks.com.

General admission is $15.  The group rate is $10 each for 10 or
more tickets.

There are three ways to purchase tickets:
On-lineat www.leftbooks.com: You can purchase individual or
group tickets with your credit card. There is a $1 service charge per
ticket for ordering on-line.
By  mail: Send orders by mail to the International Action Center,
39 W. 14 St., #206 NY, NY 10011.  Make checks payable to
"May 7th Mobilization."
Walk-into our office at 39 W. 14 St., #206.  We're open
weekdays from 11 am to 8 pm for ticket sales.

These tickets have been selling quickly so buy your tickets as soon
as possible. We have a limited number of group seats.  (Tickets will not
be available from the box office.)

International Action Center
39 West 14th Street, Room 206
New York, NY 10011
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CHECK OUT THE NEW SITE www.mumia2000.org
phone: 212 633-6646
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20.  The Escaped Giraffe



A Zookeeper was walking through the zoo one day, checking on all the
animals. When he passed near the Giraffe pen, he noticed a woman
standing near the fence that contained the giraffes.

One of the largest giraffes had walked up to the woman and stood in
front of her on the other side of the fence. Suddenly, the giraffe
reared up and jumped over the fence and raced away through the zoo.

The Zookeeper ran over to the woman. "My God Lady, what happened to
the giraffe?"

The woman turned to the Zookeeper and said, "All I did was reach
through the bars and tickle his balls."

With that the Zookeeper dropped his own pants around his ankles and
said, "Tickle mine, I gotta catch him."




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21.  Digital Community Mural Query


Mike Mosher [EMAIL PROTECTED] is interested in hearing from artists who
use digital technology to create community murals.  He is curious about
ways the computer or Web and the community mural come together.

This might be use of digital output on billboard vinyl fabric and other

[CTRL] Mark Of The Beast - This is Scary Stuff People

2000-04-18 Thread Nicola Molloy

[astro-revelation] This is Scary Stuff People - Mark Of The Beast
Date:
 Tue, 18 Apr 2000 04:30:16 -0700
   From:
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 Organization:
 Global Glory

Someone asked privately about NID

I have written articles on National ID.
http://presys.com/~ekklesia/issue9w.htm
The ekklesia Newsletter issue 9
The Seal Deal - Neither buy nor sell
NATIONAL IDENTIFICATION
The 666 section
Redemption

They have been turning drivers license into N ID behind the
scene with free computers and software to the states.


This is a long post but it shows you how this stuff comes
about. All they need is a good national emergency and people
will line up for new IDs and the system is already present
to do it through DMVs.

SCAN THIS NEWS
July 4, 1999

THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL ID PLAN

This article memorializes, for posterity sake, the
establishment of the national identification system in
America.

A lot of people, just now being confronted with the national
ID laws, are quick to blame President Clinton. He certainly
is an easy target. But the reality is that the Republicans
are solely responsible for these programs, as you will see
below.

How The Republicans Implemented the Democrats' National ID
Plan
An Historical Account

By Scott McDonald

http://www.networkusa.org/fingerprint/page1/fp-republican-id-plan.html

One day, in the not too distant future, a generation of
Americans is going to wake up and ask: "How did we become
shackled with a government that tracks, monitors, regulates,
controls, and dictates our every move?" Let the historical
record show, it was the Republican-led Congress implementing
the Democrat's "locating and tracking" database program that
resulted in the U.S. national identification system.

Just how did this massive control mechanism get established?
And, who were the key players? For a clue, their first names
were: Bob, Newt, Bill, and Patsy -- with honorable mention
for Rush.

It all came about rather gradually beginning in 1994 -- the
political period referred to as the "Republican Revolution."
It happened during a time when the nation's attention was
diverted to such trivial issues as funding for free school
lunch programs. It began when the Republicans in Congress
proudly and pompously announced, in a huge ceremony held on
the front steps of the U.S. Capitol Building, that they were
implementing their "Contract With America."

Under the "Contract," the Republican Congress enacted not
one, but TWO
national ID laws. The "Welfare Reform Act of 1996" and the
"Illegal Immigration Reform Act of 1996" both included
requirements which, in application, constitute a national
identification system. Together, these two laws made up the
foundational backbone -- and provided the financial impetus
-- for the most massive national identification system ever
devised by mankind. These two programs are now being
implemented  throughout America. As a result, everyone is
required to identify themselves using a social security
number in order to engage in virtually all societal
activities. Consequently, SSNs are now required as a
condition to drive, work, fly, bank, get married, get
divorced, hunt, fish, buy stock, obtain insurance, get born,
and even to die.

These two laws are in addition to the health care reform
measures, also enacted under the Republican Congress, which
are resulting in massive database systems that will be used
to exchange private information about citizens, all linked
to one's social security number.

How could such Draconian laws get enacted with little or no
meaningful public debate? No small amount of blame must go
to the diversionary antics of the immensely popular,
pseudo-conservative, part-time comedian, Republican
mouthpiece, radio talk-show host Rush Limbaugh. For, it was
he who, on cue from Newt Gingrich, effectively distracted an
otherwise concerned and otherwise trusting populace with
relentless babble and mindless chatter. All that was ever
discussed on his weekday program was whether or not the
Republican's Welfare Reform plan included a "spending
increase," a "spending decrease," or simply a "decrease in
the proposed increase." Occasionally, Rush would also
complain about Clinton's threat to veto the great Republican
overhaul bill because it did not include enough money for
free school lunch programs. Clinton followed through with
his threat, by the way, but that obviously is not the end of
the story. Meanwhile, Congress was busy enacting the most
sophisticated -- most horrendous -- locating, tracking, and
identification system ever suffered under by mankind. None
of this was ever once so much as mentioned by the celebrity
who's most bragged-about credential is that half 'his brain
encumbered.

DETAILED HISTORY OF THE LOCATING AND TRACKING LAWS

The national "locating and tracking" system, (by the way,
that's how it's referred to in the Act), began as the "Child
Support 

Re: [CTRL] *NEW* new Area 51 Images posted on new site. *A DIVERSION*

2000-04-18 Thread A.C. Szul Jr.
Title: Area 51 Images Said Posted on Web



If anything, this is surely a diversion from the _real_ "Area 51" while the 
tests on the 'lil green men are being done at some completely different 
location.

-A

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  posted on new site. *NEW*
  http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/2417/us/area_51_2.html--Click 
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  Monday April 
17 8:01 PM ET 
Area 51 Images Said Posted on Web
By MARTHA WAGGONER, Associated Press Writer 

RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) - The truth is out there - on the Web. Photos of 
Area 51, the super-secret Air Force test site in Nevada that has long 
tantalized UFO and conspiracy buffs and fans of ``The X-Files,'' are 
being posted on the Internet.
``This is the first glimpse into the most secret training and testing 
facility for the Air Force,'' said John Hoffman, president of Aerial 
Images Inc. of Raleigh.
The company planned to post five images of the site, divided into 
four frames each, in collaboration with Microsoft, Kodak, Digital 
Equipment Corp., Autometric Inc. and the Russian agency 
Sovinformsputnik.


  
  

  


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The partners 
launched a Russian satellite from Kazahkstan in 1998 to map Earth's 
surface and Area 51. An open-skies agreement signed in 1992 by 24 
nations, including the United States and Russia, made the effort 
possible.
The Air Force only recently acknowledged that Groom Dry Lake Air 
Force Base even exists. The 8,000-square-mile base is 75 miles northwest 
of Las Vegas, in the arid, rugged Nellis Range.
Beginning with the U-2 spy plane in the 1950s, the base has been the 
testing ground for a host of top-secret aircraft, including the SR-71 
Blackbird and, more recently, the F-117A stealth fighter and B-2 stealth 
bomber.
The base's airspace is restricted; aircraft are not allowed to fly 
over it. But satellite overflights are allowed as part of an agreement 
to verify arms-control compliance.
Among UFO aficionados, it has long been known simply as Area 51, the 
base's designation on old Nevada test site maps. They believe that 
unidentified flying objects from other worlds are hidden at the base, 
where their parts are copied for U.S. prototypes.
The images, with resolution good enough to distinguish a car from a 
truck, are better than earlier telephoto shots from the nearby 
mountains. The only other known image purportedly was shot by a 
satellite in the 1960s. It is much fuzzier.
``There are runways, there are buildings, there are buses, there are 
test sites, but there aren't any little green men or super-secret 
aircraft to be seen,'' Hoffman said of the new photos.
Several government agencies are aware of the images and haven't 
responded, said Hoffman, 52, a Vietnam veteran who recently retired from 
the National Guard after 23 years. ``I've had no feedback from anybody 
that indicates anybody gives a hoot,'' he said.
An Air Force spokeswoman would not comment Monday on any security 
concerns about the images.
``We acknowledge having an operating site there, and the work is 
classified,'' spokeswoman Gloria Cales said. The work involves 
``operations critical to the U.S. military and the country's security.''
Aerial Images, at www.terraserver.com, planned to 
offer a link to the Area 51 pages. Viewing the images is free; 

[CTRL] History of MK-ULTRA. CIA program on Mind Control.

2000-04-18 Thread Nicky Molloy

III. History of MK-ULTRA. CIA program on Mind Control.

http://www.mindspring.com/~txporter/sec3.htm

More articles here
http://www.mindspring.com/~txporter/

- Started during WWII with research on hypnosis for interrogation, secure
courier duties, and reducing fatigue. Also research into effects of
primitive drugs like barbiturates and cannabis as far as drug-assisted
interrogation goes.

- George Estabrooks was the leading proponent of hypnosis as the be-all and
end-all of manipulating peoples minds. His book, 'Hypnotism', published in
the early forties, has been decried as too fantastic and improbable in terms
of describing the capabilities of hypnosis with certain very suggestible
subjects, but his arguments and examples remain valid to this day.


Estabrooks admitted in 1971 to creating hypnotic couriers and programmed
multiple personalities for Military Intelligence purposes in this 1971
Science Digest article. MUST READ!!

- Start of Cold War and Korean War in particular gave a big boost to mind
control research with the emergence of 'Brain Washing' as a common term.
Supposedly a development of the dastardly Chi-Coms, the term was actually
coined by a magazine writer later found to be on the CIA payroll as an agent
of influence. Postulating a 'brainwashing gap' The CIA got the go-ahead for
research into countering communist mind control efforts and developing their
own to aid in the espionage wars.

- Hypnosis, drugs, and psycho-surgery; separately and combined, were the
tools of this quest for the ultimate truth serum on the one hand, and the
capability to create an agent who could not have his or her mission tortured
out of them, or even be aware that they were carrying secret information
given to them in an altered state of consciousness. More and more
sophisticated drugs were experimented with, such as LSD, Ketamine, and
Psilocybine. Lobotomy and the implantation of electrodes were considered as
methods for creating a compliant agent. Electro-Convulsive Shock, combined
with LSD, sedation for days at a time, and constantly replaying the patient’
s own voice through helmet-mounted headphones was a notorious Canadian
researcher’s recipe for mind control.

- One of the most remarkable cases of mind control involves a famous model
of the late 40's and 50's named Candy Jones. In the book, "The Control of
Candy Jones" the author reviewed hours of tapes made by Candy Jones and her
husband which revealed a systematic program to create and manipulate alter
personalities as the foundation for programmed couriers resistant to
torture, where the primary personality would not even be aware of the secret
information being carried. The information could be summoned forth via a
post-hypnotic command or response to a pre-programmed cue.

- Research continued into early 70's by CIA's own admission during the
Church hearings. John Marks, author of the best study of CIA mind control
experiments, makes the subtle differentiation that the CIA congressional
witnesses might truthfully say that all research done by the TSS Directorate
had ended, since the programs were moved into other areas once operational
techniques had been developed. Many of the names mentioned in reference to
mind control research turn up in the few references to supposed dead-end
research in ESP.

- There have been persistent rumors of Navy research involving attempts at
telepathy from submarines under water, the Nautilus being the most famous of
these. Detection of enemy submarines, and communicating with our own, has
continued to be an important area of conventional research for the Navy, so
it is no surprise that researching the use of ESP for these purposes would
be of interest. Communicating with a submerged submarine is the only kind of
communications where the very act of receiving puts the receiver in danger,
since submarines must normally stick an antenna out of the water for high
speed radio traffic, or rely on trailing a long wire antenna under water
relatively near the surface to receive very slow speed traffic using ELF
radio waves. Newer techniques may involve the use of blue-green wavelength
lasers, but evidently penetration to any depth is still a problem.

If you look at telepathy as a problem in the transfer of information in a
very noisy environment, then certain existing solutions suggest themselves:
There have already been experiments in the transmission of five distinct
symbols via telepathy, namely Zener card symbols. I suggest that there is
already a way of transmitting information using two symbols only, namely
Morse Code. Current ELF or VLF radio transmission methods for communicating
with fleet ballistic missle submarines to issue them their launch orders
involve very low data transfer rates, on the order of 3 to 30 bits per
minute, if I am not mistaken. Messages are very short, consisting of
pre-formulated action or targeting codes. I suggest that telepathic 'Zener
Morse' is an operational technique for information 

[CTRL] About the Controllers by Martin Cannon.

2000-04-18 Thread Nicky Molloy

VI. The Controllers by Martin Cannon.
http://www.mindspring.com/~txporter/sec6.htm


One of the better discussions of current government mind control research is
"The Controllers" by Martin Cannon. This monograph, over sixty pages in
length, makes an excellent case that some alien abduction reports are merely
the results of screen memories created by government researchers to cover up
their mind control activities. The recurring problem, mentioned many times
in John Mark's book "The Search for the Manchurian Candidate", has been the
difficulty in finding subjects that would not discuss their participation in
secret experiments after they were completed. Military personnel could be
ordered not to, assuming they remembered any details of their experience.
Involuntary or civilian subjects could not be handled so easily.

Cannon makes a good case for the creation of screen memories as a way to
handle the "experiment termination" problem. If total amnesia was
introduced, subjects would have lost time to account for, and the human mind
is resilient enough to try to fill in the details in such an obvious gap.
Furnishing screen memories of alien abductions tends to: A. fill that gap,
B. test the effectiveness of techniques for creating screen memories, and C.
steer the subject away from discussing their experiences due to the
ridiculous nature of their "memories".

Without going into too much detail, Cannon makes a good case for his
hypothesis, based on anachronistic and out of character features found in
many abduction accounts. He has a mass of supporting evidence demonstrating
the current state of research being easily capable of generating such screen
memories with the use of drug-augmented hypnosis. Current miniaturization of
Virtual Reality gear means that a person could be presented with convincing
images and sounds of alien beings and spaceships, all while under the
effects of hallucinogenic/sedative/psychomimetic drugs. An interesting
portion of Cannon's monograph deals with the recurring mixture of references
to psychic phenomena and military involvement in many abduction cases. This
work is well worth reading.

Link to "The Controllers" Link to "The Controllers"

 Link to other articles by Martin

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[CTRL] Dr J Mack Bud Hopkins dialogue 2/2

2000-04-18 Thread Nicky Molloy

Dr J Mack  Bud Hopkins dialogue 2/2
http://www.alienjigsaw.com/Part_II/victor.html

Five Areas of Focus

Dr. Mack suggests five areas around which to focus our deepening
appreciation for this experience.

The first of these he calls the event level. By this he means that whatever
occurs is assuredly intrusive in nature and very real to experiencers, yet
so reality-shattering to everyone else as to be utterly unbelievable by its
very nature. The trauma is real, the event seems real, yet acceptance of it
as real has not yet begun to take root among the vast majority. Despite what
a large number of very credible and psychologically healthy individuals are
reporting, the reality of what is occurring has not yet become integrated
into our "current reality." Skepticism among the "compact majority" exist
primarily because no objective proof exits beyond the human experiential
reports of experiencers.

Secondly, Dr. Mack refers to the informational nature of what is being
reported to him by experiencers. Concerns about ecological damage to the
environment, mind to mind contact and hybrid breeding, represent the type of
information which is relayed by virtually all experiencers. It appears as if
the alien beings are relaying to, or putting experiencers in touch with
perceptions about the state of the world, altered forms of communication and
hybrid breeding, for reasons that we as yet do not understand.

Thirdly Dr. Mack alludes to the spirituality aspect of what these beings
impart to experiencers. Experiencers report that in some manner, the aliens
are introducing to them the need for humans to become more open to a sense
of a universal Oneness, the Source, or God.

The fourth component of Dr. Mack's outline describes the nature of the
beings themselves as they relate to experiencers. Mack has discovered that
as he works with abductees they seem to develop a closer, deeper and
powerful relationship with the beings. As a result of his work with
experiencers, Dr. Mack does not believe the aliens are either benign or
benevolent. Dr. Mack goes on to more fully explain these components in the
fifth segment of his outline.

Fifth, Dr. Mack discusses the societal and scientific resistance toward the
phenomenon which is clearly evident throughout society in general. General
resistance is generated whenever a shift in paradigms begins to influence or
alter a dominant world view. Ontology (ways of knowing or how knowledge is
organized within a society) is drastically shifted when attempts are made to
deal rationally with something like the alien abduction enigma. It does not
fit. Acceptance of it would necessarily require a drastic alteration of our
belief structures, both scientifically and socially, in order to fully
integrate the notion of alien influence into our current world view. The
abduction phenomenon crosses over and through the physical and spiritual. In
a strange way it seems to be both physical as well as spiritual. The
phenomenon appears to manifest itself in a physical way, but somehow
possesses attributes of the spiritual domain. In a like manner, it has
spiritual characteristics, yet it also possesses physical attributes.

Dr. Mack continues by talking about how we cannot expect to "master" this
phenomenon from within our current structures of knowledge. It all comes to
us from or through another reality into our own reality. Since the
illusion-like quality of abductions creates such discontinuity in our normal
realm of beliefs, the only way most people deal with it is to dismiss it
outright, as would be the case in any situation where discontinuity and the
lack of physical proof abound. Resistance also emanates from the fact that
we have no language with which to describe the subtleties of what seems to
be happening to experiencers, therefore, resistance is understandably
substantial. Dr. Mack explains that normal language like good-evil and
Gods-Devils cannot adequately describe what seems to be occurring.

Mack, it appears, remains convinced that the phenomenon is inviting us to
expand our notion of reality. We are somehow being challenged to develop
criteria which invites a different form of knowledge into our realm, thus
expanding our ways of knowing. Dr. Mack appears to believe that this will
never be proven outright and scientifically, but that these experiences will
gradually evolve to gradually expand our consciousness and ways of knowing.

The Nature of the Beings

Following each outline the moderator invites both speakers to sit with him
on the stage to begin an interchange or dialogue about key points of their
years of observations and work among experiencers. The moderator requests
more clarification on the nature of the beings and what they seem to bring
to our reality.

It is quite clear that Budd Hopkins has a defined mistrust of the aliens and
their motivations. He explains how he has witnessed immense trauma and how
the ensuing traumatic disorder has affected the lives of many of the 

[CTRL] US Won't Allow Taiwan Destroyer Sale (fwd)

2000-04-18 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

[China's getting a fine return on their investment  --MS]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/2417/aponline175259_00
0.htm

US Won't Allow Taiwan Destroyer Sale
By Barry Schweid
AP Diplomatic Correspondent
Monday, April 17, 2000; 5:52 p.m. EDT

WASHINGTON –– President Clinton, backed by his senior advisers,
decided Monday against the sale of four Aegis destroyers to
Taiwan but approved sale of long-range radar designed to detect
missile launches, a senior U.S. official said.

Clinton, in California on a tour of impoverished communities,
acted on the recommendation of top advisers who met earlier in
the day at the White House, said the official, who spoke on
condition of anonymity.

The Pentagon had recommended that the administration put off
Taiwan's request to buy new weapons, including the destroyers,
submarines and anti-submarine aircraft, in order to avoid
angering China, which views Taiwan as a rebellious province.

The decision could touch off a fight with Congress, where support
for Taiwan and its growing democratic trends is strong,
especially in light of menacing gestures by Beijing toward the
island.

Sen. Jesse Helms, R-N.C., said the Pentagon was succumbing to
pressure from the State Department and the White House "to
sacrifice Taiwan's security in order to appease the dictators in
Beijing."

Helms, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said
in a statement: "There is, quite simply, no military
justification to deny Taiwan these crucial defensive items. These
denials are driven by knee-jerk appeasement on the part of the
White House and State Department."

A showdown between the White House and Congress could develop
over legislation backed by Taiwan supporters to strengthen
U.S.-Taiwanese military ties.

"The politicized handling of Taiwan's defense request – and the
utter failure of this administration to consult with Congress –
is a clear demonstration why the Taiwan Security Enhancement Act
is so urgently needed," Helms said.

Administration officials have said they would recommend a
presidential veto if Congress tries to force the sale of arms to
Taiwan.

Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott, R-Miss., took steps last week
to push the bill to a floor vote by the end of the month.

Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., immediately imposed a "hold" on the
measure that could block Lott's efforts.

Baucus is a leader in a drive to grant China permanent trade
benefits.




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[CTRL] White House Data Unsearched (fwd)

2000-04-18 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

White House Data Unsearched

By George Lardner Jr.
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday , April 18, 2000 ; A27

The White House has a huge trove of computerized records that
have never been searched during the criminal and congressional
investigations of the Clinton administration.

The records appear to be covered by various subpoenas that called
on the White House to turn over relevant records contained
oncomputer disks, computer entries and tapes. The White House
says much #150; though not all #150; of the material is likely
to be duplicative of the hundreds of thousands of paper pages it
has already produced in response to an avalanche of subpoenas.

Officials say they have no intention of examining the electronic
records #150; memos, speeches, drafts, schedules, notes and
other items written on the computers of former staffers #150;
because of the prohibitive costs involved. The documents are in
addition to the missing e-mails that the White House is now
attempting to reconstruct.

White House spokesman Jim Kennedy said that while "a subpoena can
ask for the moon, that doesn't mean we have to produce it." He
said the White House must make "a good-faith, reasonable search
for material that may be responsive to a subpoena, but we don't
think it reasonable, given the time and expense," to search all
individual hard drives and back-up tapes that might be covered.

Kennedy said there are about 600 tapes of the hard or "C" drives
of former aides to President Clinton and Vice President Gore that
are routinely archived as they leave their White House jobs. The
computers can then be used by their successors. Kennedy said the
backup tapes that contain the missing e-mails also have materials
taken from the "F," or shared, drives of White House computers.

"Because of the time and expense involved, they [the computer
drives] have not been searched as a general matter and the people
who have issued subpoenas understand that," Kennedy said.

A former White House computer specialist, Sheryl L. Hall, said in
a March 7 affidavit that she was told by a White House staffer
several weeks ago that plans were afoot to destroy existing C
drive tapes and to stop making any more. Among the tapes that
have been saved, she said, are data from the hard drives of
ex-staffers such as Linda Tripp, the secretaries to former White
House counsel Bernard Nussbaum and former associate White House
counsel William Kennedy III.

Tripp was the confidante of former White House intern Monica S.
Lewinsky. Nussbaum and Kennedy were leading subjects of
investigation in the controversy over FBI background files that
were improperly obtained by the Clinton White House in 1993-94.

Responding this month to Hall's affidavit in a lawsuit filed by
Judicial Watch, a conservative group that uncovered the e-mail
gap, Michael J. Lyle, director of the White House office of
administration, said "no proposal is actively under
consideration" to destroy the hard-drive tapes or to stop making
them.

Lyle assured the court that the 600 tapes had been secured in a
special vault with highly secure locks. Also being kept there are
3,763 backup tapes containing F drive material and e-mails that
were never produced in response to various subpoenas.

Jim Kennedy said destruction of the hard-drive tapes might have
been "discussed" at a meeting about what to do with them. But he
said, "there was never any plan to destroy them."

The White House has ordered a $3 million reconstruction of
missing e-mail correspondence because it erroneously assured
investigators that all such relevant messages had been produced.
But Kennedy said the White House had always been candid with
investigators about its determination not to conduct general
searches of backup tapes or individual hard drives.

For example, he cited a 1998 exchange of letters with independent
counsel Ralph Lancaster about his investigation of Labor
Secretary Alexis M. Herman. A White House lawyer told Lancaster
that "the White House cannot, as a practical matter, perform
across-the-board searches of computer files," because "the
burdens involved . . . are enormous," especially when the files
have been archived.

A deputy to Lancaster replied that they would be satisfied for
the present with a computer file search of just two former White
House aides.

Kennedy said limited searches like that were made for other
independent counsels as well, but not very often.

But despite Kennedy's assurance that "everyone [who issues
subpoenas] understands" the situation, the chief counsel for the
House Government Reform Committee, James Wilson, said he had no
such understanding. He said he would not fault the White House
for not examining the voluminous backup tapes, but he could find
"no record of the White House ever telling us it wasn't going to
search individual hard drives."

   © 2000 The Washington Post Company




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[CTRL] Negatives from film shot at Waco are Missing (fwd)

2000-04-18 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

Monday, April 17, 2000

   Negatives from film shot at Waco
   are missing, U.S. says

By William H. Freivogel and
   Terry Ganey
   Of the Post-Dispatch

 The Justice Department admitted Monday that
   it could not find the original negatives of an
   important roll of film taken on the last day of
   the siege of the Branch Davidians' complex. But
   it said it had not tampered with those photos or
   with infrared and electronic surveillance tapes of
   the 1993 episode that left about 80 Branch
   Davidians dead.

   The government acknowledged in a court filing
   Monday that it is missing 30 original negatives
   from the first of at least seven rolls of film shot
   by an FBI photographer who circled 1,000 feet
   above the complex in a Cessna surveillance
   aircraft.

   The government, however, does have prints of
   the missing negatives and the original contact
   sheet of the negatives.

   This roll of film is important because it appears
   to show that there are no government agents
   standing where flashes show up on infrared
   surveillance tape of the incident. The absence of
   agents undercuts the Branch Davidians' claim
   that the flashes are from the guns of agents
   firing into the complex.

   One strip of original negatives from that first
   roll of film has been turned over to the federal
   court that is hearing the Branch Davidians'
   wrongful death suit against the government.
   That strip contains a key photograph that
   appears to have been taken at 11:24 a.m.,
   within seconds of flashes on the video. That
   photograph shows no agents in the vicinity of
   the flashes.

   But the other negatives from that roll of film
   have been missing since at least 1997 and have
   not been found despite an extensive search by
   the FBI, the Justice Department said. Agents
   searched for the negatives at least five times.

   The department said that the strip of original
   negatives with the photo from 11:24 a.m. was
   separated from the missing original negatives
   when Congress requested it as part of its 1995
   investigation of Waco.

   A document analyst with the Special Photo Unit
   of the FBI, identified only as "ALS," found that
   the negatives were missing around April 1997.
   The FBI then made a duplicate set of the
   negatives from photographs and marked them
   with the notation "originals lost."

   The Davidians' attorney, Michael Caddell, had
   claimed that one of the photos from the
   replacement negatives had a white scratch that
   appeared to obliterate a speck that might be a
   person. But the Justice Department said that
   the contact sheet, made from the original
   negative, had no person or speck.

   The Justice Department also disputed Caddell's
   claim that several rolls of the film were missing.
   The photographer taking the film that said he
   took about 10 rolls, give or take one or two. The
   FBI produced seven rolls. In Monday's court
   filing, the department produced logs and records
   that appear to show that only seven rolls were
   shot and developed.

   The government argued in its court filing that it
   should not be fined for any discrepancies
   involving the photos or tapes.




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[CTRL] The Rise of the American Empire (fwd)

2000-04-18 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

From:

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The Rise of the American Empire

by Cathy Cuthbert

If you are a regular reader of literature of liberty, at some
point you must have wondered how America acquired an empire. How
did a nationalgovernment based on the premise that all men are
created equal, segue into the subjugation of men living in other
countries? How did a people so profoundly uninterested in foreign
people and foreign affairs become hoodwinked into laboring for a
worldwide, fascist bureaucracy? And you must have wondered about
the most amazing irony of all – How can Americans be blissfully
unaware of their government’s empire?

A Nation of Adult School Children

I had a series of discussions – ok, ok, arguments – with a friend
over the war in Kosovo. This friend had had a Vietnam draft
number but wouldn't have gone if his number came up. He said that
while traveling in Greece in the ‘70s, he had heard a very
different story about United States Government (USG) involvement
in SE Asia than the one being told at home. Yet this same man
thirty years later declared that the genocide in Kosovo was so
abhorrent to him that he was willing to go fight at the age of
48. He believed every story of ethnic cleansing and mass graves
no matter how unbelievable. He demanded no evidence other than
Tom Browkaw's word to he make up his mind, or rather to have his
mind made up for him, that Milosevic is a Serbian Hitler. He
sincerely believed that NATO was fighting a humanitarian war and
that if NATO didn't stop the slaughter of innocents, it would go
on till no one was left.

"We have a responsibility to do something," he said. "It’s the
same as if you knew that a thug was breaking into your neighbor's
house and attacking him and his family. You'd be morally bound to
do something to stop it."

I looked at my friend and shook my head, trying to understand how
he can so fervently believe such utter nonsense. No argument
could shake him. Does 2,000 killed on both sides over two years
really constitute genocide? Do mass graves really have head
stones? Didn’t he know about the forensic evidence found at Racak
showing that the massacre was staged? Facts and logic didn’t
matter to him. I was at a loss to explain his tenacious grip on
received opinion. Then I closed my eyes and saw my friend as he
must have been forty years ago, sitting attentively at a little
desk. With this image the whole of 20th century political history
became clear to me.

The USG has troops stationed in 135 countries. It bombed four
countries in 1999 alone. Yet few Americans are horrified at this.
Any time and anywhere in the entire world there is conflict,
Americans demand that the USG act, which means flex its military
muscle. At any incident that can be propagandized as terrorism
and before any evidence or even details are available, Pavlov’s
dogs flood talk radio with calls demanding that "we nuke the
towel heads." Close your eyes and call up a vision of a first
grade classroom and the reason will be clear to you, too.

Every night, millions of dog tired working stiffs – and I don’t
mean only the Joe Sixpacks, but those 60 hour work week Yuppies,
as well – collapse onto their couches in front of their TVs, turn
on the evening news and revert back to childhood as they imbibe a
constant stream of lies and propaganda about, well, everything.
"The most trusted men in America" read a script carefully
constructed to paint just the right picture of what is happening
in all aspects of 20th century American life. Expert advice is
now considered essential to understanding foreign affairs or
domestic politics or global warming or even the lack of safety in
their own neighborhoods. Exhausted from the day’s labors and
mesmerized by the flashing lights before them, they take it all
in the way they took in Miss Wormwood’s exhortations forty years
before. There is no difference.

Compulsory government schooling began in the US in 1852 in
Massachusetts. At that time, it took guns, soldiers and the
threat of bloody violence, rather than expert advice, to force
parents to submit to giving up their children. After one
generation of public schooling with its propaganda about the
sacred nature of the union and manifest destiny, it was possible
for McKinley to make the first concrete steps toward world wide
rather than continental empire. By the time the last state passed
its compulsory schooling law in 1918 and another generation
served out its prison term in government schools, the USG was
able to institute war socialism and jail war dissenters in the
land of the free and the home of the brave. After three
generations of compulsory schooling, the grip on the minds of
institutionally schooled people was so strong that the same
propaganda used on the previous generation about the Kaiser’s
Germany, even though thoroughly discredited, could be recycled
and used against Hitler’s Germany. By the time the number of
non-institutionally schooled grandparents and even

[CTRL] Israel and China - Getting Away With Murder (fwd)

2000-04-18 Thread Yardbird

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MID-EAST REALITIES - WASHINGTON - 18 April 2000:
No other country could even attempt to twist and manipulate the United States
as does Israel.  But then this is the same country that attached a U.S. military
ship in 1967, killing many, and to this day refuses to pay up.  This is the same
country that used an American Jewish U.S. Navy employee to spy on the U.S.'s
most top secret affairs.  Indeed, this is the same country that has given us
everything from Deir Yassin to the Lavon Affair to the Liberty Ship to Jonathan
Pollard -- and of course what we don't yet know is for sure far far more than
this.
   Now we also know about Israel and China.  Having gotten away with everything
else the Israelis assume they can get away with this too.  Indeed, the cowardly
and hypocritical Congress of the United States is also "occupied Israeli territory".



STRANGE BEDFELLOWS:  CHINA AND ISRAEL
By Eric S. Margolis

The first-ever visit by a Chinese head of state to Israel last week seemed
at first glance rather curious. China, a longtime political and military
supporter of the Arabs and Iran, used to denounce Israel as a `running dog
of US imperialism'   and `a racist-fascist state?' So what was President
Jiang Zemin doing hobnobbing in Israel?

Jiang had two objectives: a. deepen the secret 20-year military
relationship between China and Israel; b. by openly befriending Israel,
counteract growing anti-Chinese feeling in Congress that threatens both
China's exports to the US, and its admission to the World Trade
Organization. . .

The normally pro-Israeli Clinton Administration,  however, is not pleased.
 William Cohen, the US Secretary of Defense, recently unleashed an
unprecedented public blast at Israel for selling advanced military
technology to China that  could threaten American forces in the event of a
clash with China over Taiwan.

Cohen demanded Israel cancel the US $1-2 billion sale of 3-5 AWACS airborne
radar aircraft to China. Israel refused, though it may only sell China one
of the Russian aircraft equipped with an Israeli `Phalcon' advanced
radar/electronic warfare system, developed from the US  `Hawkeye' AWACS
system, at least until the heat subsides

 Former  CIA Director James Woolsey testified Israel has covertly sold
`several billions' of dollars worth of top-secret US technology to Israel
since 1983.  The Inspector General of the US State Department found, in a
1992 report, a `systematic and growing pattern' of Israel selling American
military technology in direct violation of US law.  That report concluded
Israel was supplying arms based on restricted American technology to China,
Chile, Ethiopia, and South Africa, all of whom then under US arms embargo.

The Pentagon has claimed since the mid-1980's that Israel simply copies or
reverse engineers secret US defense technology and then exports it - even
on occasion, its is whispered, to Russia.  Until now, Israel's influential
friends on Capital Hill managed to downplay or cover up these  serious
charges.

The transfer of billions worth of advanced US military technology to
Israel,  under the innocuous title of `Technical Data Packages,'  was
arranged by Israel's American supporters, beginning in 1970. This massive
infusion of secret US weapons and electronics technology- the largest ever
to another nation -  allowed Israel to develop state-of-the art military
industries that exported some $1.5-2 billion annually (40% of its total
exports by the late 1980's), and which  became the nation's largest
employer. Israel is now the world's sixth largest arms exporter.  In some
cases, Israel improved on US weapons and electronics systems.

Pentagon sources charge Israel `backdoored'  US technology to China for the
Patriot AA missile, other surface-to-air missiles; the PL-8 air-to-air
missiles; C-802 anti-ship missiles; advanced composite tank armor and tank
guns; aircraft avionics and ground radar systems; and the J-10 fighter,
which is based on secret US technology used in Israel's cancelled `Lavi'
fighter.  Israel denies these charges. A Pentagon 

[CTRL] Fwd: Solar Activity Watch

2000-04-18 Thread Kris Millegan





 "The sun is approaching the height of its 11-year storm cycle ..."
5-5-2000?


Scientists Warn of Solar Storm

By JOSEPH B. VERRENGIA
.c The Associated Press

BOULDER, Colo. (AP) - Scientists detected a major solar flare Friday that
could create a spectacular light show in the night sky but was not expected
to disrupt communications or knock out electrical power.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's forecast of moderate
solar storm activity was in effect through midday Saturday EDT.

While geomagnetic eruptions on the sun can interfere with communications and
knock out power, no immediate disruptions were reported. Forecasters said the
intense part of the storm had passed by midday Friday, but there was a chance
of another outbreak on Sunday.

The sun is approaching the height of its 11-year storm cycle, known as the
Solar Max, although the peak had been relatively quiet until now.

The storm was rated at a moderate G-2 level on the federal government's new
space weather scale of 1 to 5. Initially, the storm spiked to G-4, or severe.

Scientists said the storm originated Tuesday morning when a cluster of
sunspots emerged, then faded, on the sun. A cloud of electrically charged
particles hurled from the sun rode the solar wind and reached Earth's
magnetic field midday Thursday.

Eric Ort, a space weather forecaster, said he received reports from Ireland
that the display of the aurora borealis, or northern lights, was spectacular
as a result of the solar storm. Weather permitting, the display might be
visible at lower latitudes after midnight for the next night or two, he said.

The Space Weather Operations Center is jointly operated by NOAA and the Air
Force.

On the Net: www.noaa.gov


Solar shock waves can spawn blasts from sun report


WASHINGTON, April 4 (Reuters) - In a sort of remote-control effect, shock
waves on one part of the sun can spawn monster explosions in other solar
regions, which sometimes damage power grids and satellites around Earth,
scientists said on Tuesday.

Earlier research indicated that these big explosions, known as coronal mass
ejections, were fuelled by solar flares directly underneath them. But new
observations indicate the massive blasts can occur far from the solar flares
that spark them.

These ejections are a prime ingredient in geomagnetic storms, which can cause
bright auroras, damage satellites in Earth orbit and disrupt power by
generating strong electric currents under Earth's surface.

The remote-control ejections appear to emanate from very large hot loops of
X-rays which seem to connect sunspots in the sun's northern and southern
hemispheres, scientists Josef Khan and Hugh Hudson wrote in the April 15
edition of Geophysical Research Letters.

Using Japan's Yohkoh (''sunbeam'') satellite, the two researchers looked at
X-ray images of the sun and found that three of these big X-ray loops simply
disappeared, violently freeing huge amounts of solar material.

These loopy ejections were tracked far out into the sun's corona -- a
wildly-shaped halo of electrified gas -- with NASA's Solar and Heliospheric
Observatory (SOHO) satellite.

Khan and Hudson theorise that some coronal mass ejections are caused when a
solar flare generates a shock wave, and that wave crosses a large X-ray loop.
This makes the loop unstable and causes it to erupt, ejecting hot X-ray
material that becomes a large part of the coronal mass ejection.

While both researchers are currently based at Japan's Institute of Space and
Astronautical Science, Khan is with University College, London, and Hudson is
with the Solar Physics Research Corporation in Tucson, Arizona.





[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Re:what is diesel therapy- and The Secrets of Captain Michael Maholy Revealed

2000-04-18 Thread Kris Millegan








[CTRL] OEN 4/18/00

2000-04-18 Thread Kris Millegan

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US Politics


Don't Count Out a Third Clinton Term



by Mark Steyn

Three items culled from the National Briefs -- that's not Bill Clinton's
underwear, but the column of small, insignificant news stories you can find
on page 37 or thereabouts of most major papers. Cumulatively, though, they
tend to hover at least in the general vicinity of the President's
distinguishing characteristics:

1. Federal Judge Royce Lamberth has ruled that Mr. Clinton violated the
Privacy Act by releasing personal letters from Kathleen Willey after she
alleged that he'd grabbed her breasts and thrust her hand down his pants and
on to the old Executive Branch.

2. An investigation has been called for into the disappearance of White House
e-mails relating to illegal Clinton-Gore fundraising.

3. Robert Ray, Ken Starr's successor as independent counsel, is threatening
to indict the President after he leaves office.

Mr. Clinton's position couldn't be clearer: "The rule of law's got to be
upheld," he said last week. "If we don't do it here, where will we stop?"
Unfortunately, that's his position on Elian Gonzalez. As to the matter of
just where the rule of law stops, the answer would seem to be the White House
gates. In theory, having been caught in a massive cover-up and found guilty
of breaking the law to trash a penniless widow and being the first president
to face the prospect of being led away from your successor's inauguration by
Federal marshals ought to be bad news for your party. But, au contraire,
Democrats are delighted. Those incriminating e-mails? "I hope they spend a
lot of time and energy on them," says a gleeful Al Gore. Mr. Clinton and his
women? Hey, the only Presidential woman who counts is Hillary and she's nine
points up on Giuliani in New York. Robert Ray's new investigation? "52
million isn't enough?" scoffs James Carville. "They want to spend another $50
million?"

In fact, the IRS tax take from the various Monica books, Monica T-shirts,
Monica advertising revenue on cable news stations, etc. more than covers the
cost of the investigation: In an admirable example of public/private
partnership, the market's obsession with the president's sex life has been a
windfall for the U.S. Treasury. Indeed, given the collapsing Nasdaq and Dow,
it seems clear that there's only one surefire way to prevent the world's
biggest economy rusting up: It's time for Mr. Clinton to start hitting on
broads again. Alas, most of the citizenry are not trained economists, and the
general feeling is that the investigations of Messrs. Starr and Ray have been
a "waste" of money.

As for Mr. Clinton, things are going so swimmingly he's downsized his lawyers
and beefed up his gag writers. Last week, for example, he chided ABC over the
network's inconsistent explanations of his interview with Leonardo DiCaprio.
"Don't you news people ever learn?" chuckled Mr. Clinton. "It isn't the
mistake that kills you, it's the cover-up." It never occurred to poor old
Nixon, who laboured two decades to rehabilitate himself, that all he needed
to do was impeachment shtick.

But you gotta laugh. The more Hydra-headed scandals Clinton-Gore pile up, the
worse news it is for Republicans. The more laws the White House breaks, the
more the public takes it out on the GOP. During the primaries, Republican
candidates mercilessly mocked Al Gore for never mentioning Bill Clinton's
name. But, aside from mentioning that Al never mentioned Bill, Republicans
never mentioned him either. And, although the Bush team has been promising to
hang every White House scandal on Gore and make this election a referendum on
Clinton sleaze, I suspect they're just going through the motions. Democratic
strategist Bob Beckel likes to tell the story of the little boy who prayed to
God to make him into a stud. He woke up as a 2x4 in a condominium in New
Mexico. "Moral: Be careful what you wish for," says Bob.

I'd assumed this was some sort of coded advice to Al Gore: You think you're
making yourself more sexy, but it turns out you're just making yourself more
wooden. But apparently it was a warning to the GOP: Try to nail Clinton on
his scandals and, like that 2x4, you'll wind up propping up the marbled
atrium of the William Jefferson Clinton Presidential Library.

Bob may be right. So-called "Clinton fatigue" is the bus that never shows up.
The public's repudiation of President Sleazeball was supposed to arrive in
the 1998 Congressional elections -- "a shot that will be heard around the
world," as William F. Buckley predicted. Instead, the GOP blew its foot off:
Republicans lost seats. Attempting to make the best of things, some of us
figured that voters were reluctant to admit they'd been wrong about Bill
Clinton, but that come 2000, quietly and without fuss, they'd repudiate his
vice-president: After eight years, America would be ready to take a shower,
said 

[CTRL] Fw: Magic = technology we don't understand

2000-04-18 Thread Robert F. Tatman

The sender of this message included the following comment: "I don't know the
origin of this essay -- somebody copied it onto another list I'm on, but it
is an eye opener -- among
other things it shows underlying ideas behind the magical law of contagion."

My own reaction was that it validates the observation in *Illuminatus* that
"reality is a consensus statement."

- Original Message -
From: Ambrose Hawk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: snipped
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 1:26 PM
Subject: Magic = technology we don't understand


 The Universe as a Hologram

 Does Objective Reality Exist, or is the Universe a Phantasm?

 In 1982 a remarkable event took place. At the University of Paris, a
 research team led by physicist Alain Aspect performed what may turn out to
 be one of the most important experiments of the 20th century. You did not
 hear about it on the evening news. In fact, unless you are in the habit of
 reading scientific journals you probably have never even heard Aspect's
 name, though there are some who believe his discovery may change the face
of
 science.

 Aspect and his team discovered that under certain circumstances subatomic
 particles such as electrons are able to instantaneously communicate with
 each other regardless of the distance separating them. It doesn't matter
 whether they are 10 feet or 10 billion miles apart. Somehow each particle
 always seems to know what the other is doing. The problem with this feat
is
 that it violates Einstein's long-held tenet that no communication can
travel
 faster than the speed of light. Since traveling faster than the speed of
 light is tantamount to breaking the time barrier, this daunting prospect
has
 caused some physicists to try to come up with elaborate ways to explain
away
 Aspect's findings. But it has inspired others to offer even more radical
 explanations.

 University of London physicist David Bohm, for example,believes Aspect's
 findings imply that objective reality does not exist, that despite its
 apparent solidity the universe is at heart a phantasm, a gigantic and
 splendidly detailed hologram. To understand why Bohm makes this startling
 assertion, one must first understand a little about holograms. A hologram
is
 a three-dimensional photograph made with the aid of a laser.

 To make a hologram, the object to be photographed is first bathed in the
 light of a laser beam. Then a second laser beam is bounced off the
reflected
 light of the first and the resulting interference pattern (the area where
 the two laser beams commingle) is captured on film. When the film is
 developed, it looks like a meaningless swirl of light and dark lines. But
as
 soon as the developed film is illuminated by another laser beam, a
 three-dimensional image of the original object appears.

 The three-dimensionality of such images is not the only remarkable
 characteristic of holograms. If a hologram of a rose is cut in half and
then
 illuminated by a laser, each half will still be found to contain the
entire
 image of the rose. Indeed, even if the halves are divided again, each
 snippet of film will always be found to contain a smaller but intact
version
 of the original image. Unlike normal photographs, every part of a hologram
 contains all the information possessed by the whole.

 The "whole in every part" nature of a hologram provides us with an
entirely
 new way of understanding organization and order. For most of its history,
 Western science has labored under the bias that the best way to understand
a
 physical phenomenon, whether a frog or an atom, is to dissect it and study
 its respective parts. A hologram teaches us that some things in the
universe
 may not lend themselves to this approach. If we try to take apart
something
 constructed holographically, we will not get the pieces of which it is
made,
 we will only get smaller wholes.

 This insight suggested to Bohm another way of understanding Aspect's
 discovery. Bohm believes the reason subatomic particles are able to remain
 in contact with one another regardless of the distance separating them is
 not because they are sending some sort of mysterious signal back and
forth,
 but because their separateness is an illusion. He argues that at some
deeper
 level of reality such particles are not individual entities, but are
 actually extensions of the same fundamental something.

 To enable people to better visualize what he means, Bohm offers the
 following illustration. Imagine an aquarium containing a fish. Imagine
also
 that you are unable to see the aquarium directly and your knowledge about
it
 and what it contains comes from two television cameras, one directed at
the
 aquarium's front and the other directed at its side.As you stare at the
two
 television monitors, you might assume that the fish on each of the screens
 are separate entities. After all, because the cameras are set at different
 angles, each of the images will be slightly different. But as you continue
 to watch the 

[CTRL] Fwd: Check out these poll numbers

2000-04-18 Thread Bob Stokes





which will be very helpful for you U.S.-based activists who are engaged in grassroots 
lobbying of your Congressmembers  particularly the Democrats and especially those 
who are undecided about the one big trade vote in this Congress  namely, the upcoming 
showdown on Permanent Most Favored Nation status for China. Hint, hint.

You are encouraged to share these glad tidings round your networks.


Highlights:

*79% say congress should only give China permanent access to the U.S. market when it 
agrees to meet human right and labor standards.  Only 15% want to engage China and 
make it part of WTO. 

*Only 10% describe themselves as free traders, while 51% say fair trader and 37% 
protectionist.

*68% says that trade agreements with low-wage countries such as Mexico and China lead 
to lower wages for Americans.  Only 19% say higher.

*80% say protecting the environment should be a major priority of U.S. trade 
agreements, while 77% say preventing the loss of U.S. jobs is a major priority.

Poll follows:

COVER STORY

BW/Harris Poll: Globalization: What Americans Are Worried About


Americans are deeply divided about globalization and free-trade pacts. In
the abstract, they like both concepts; 64% of those polled think globalization
benefits the U.S. economy, and 68% think U.S. consumers gain. But the public
is split about whether the advancing global economy hurts the environment and
jobs. And 69% believe that trade agreements with low-wage countries drive
down U.S. wages. This may be one reason why 79% say China shouldn't be welcomed
into the global trading system unless it adopts human rights and labor standards.

GLOBALIZATION: GOOD OR BAD?
Many of the goods and services produced in this country are exported and
sold around the world. Many of the goods and services we buy here are imported
from other countries. Overall, do you think globalization is good or bad for:

 GOODBAD DON'T   REFUSED
KNOW

Consumers like you68% 23% 9%  1%

American companies 63% 29% 7%  1%

The U.S. economy64% 28% 7%  1%

Creating jobs in the U.S.50% 42% 7%  1%

The environment45% 38% 16% 1%

Providing jobs and
strengthening the economy
in poor countries 75% 16% 8%  1%


WHAT ARE YOU?
Which of the following best describes your views about foreign trade? Do you
consider yourself to be someone who believes in free trade or trade without
any restrictions, someone who believes in fair trade or trade with some
standards for labor and the environment, or someone who is protectionist, meaning that
there should be rules to protect U.S. markets and workers from imports?

Free trader 10% Don't know  3%
Fair trader  51% Refused 0%
Protectionist   37%


TRADE AND JOBS
Do you think that expanded trade leads to an increase or decrease in the
number of U.S. jobs?

Increase in jobs  45% Don't know  10%
Decrease in jobs 44% Refused 1%


TRADE AND WAGES
Do you think trade agreements with low-wage countries such as China and
Mexico lead to higher or lower wages for Americans?

Higher wages19% Don't know  11%
Lower wages 68% Refused 2%


WHAT ARE YOUR PRIORITIES?
Do you think that the following should be a major priority of U.S. trade
agreements, a minor priority, or not a priority at all?

 MAJOR  MINOR  NOT A   DON'T
  PRIORITY  KNOW

Keeping foreign markets
open to U.S. exports  56%32% 6% 5%

Keeping prices for U.S.
consumers low   58%29% 9% 4%

Encouraging competition
in U.S. markets  64%26% 8% 3%

Preventing unfair com-
petition by countries that
violate workers rights 74%15% 8% 3%

Protecting the environment80%14% 4% 2%

Preventing the loss of
U.S. jobs 77%16% 5% 2%


HOW TO HANDLE CHINA
Which of the following statements comes closest to your views on trade with
China?

The best way to improve human and worker rights in China is not to restrict
trade but to engage China and include it in World Trade Organization and
give it permanent access to U.S. markets
   15%

OR

Congress should only give China permanent access to the U.S. markets when it
agrees to meet human right and labor standards
79%

Don't know 5%

Refused 1%


[CTRL] rapist blowout finale to suck big bucks from hollyweirdos

2000-04-18 Thread Bard

X DRUDGE REPORT X MONDAY APRIL 17 2000 20:02:08 ET X

FOBs PLANNING ALL-STAR BLOWOUT FINALE; 'BIGGEST FUND-RAISER IN HISTORY' TO HONOR 
CLINTON!

Friends of Bill Clinton are now actively planning what is being described as the 
"biggest fund-raiser of all-time" -- a
superstar event which may rival only the Oscars in raw celebrity power!

"It's going to be a marvelous grand finale for the president," one key money source 
tells the DRUDGE REPORT in Hollywood.
"When the dust settles, it could raise more than $5 million! Maybe 10! Maybe 20! We 
want to give until there's nothing left
to give. We don't want him leaving office with debt for simply standing up for what he 
believed in. And we want only the
best possible library to document his achievements."

The event, being planned for later this year, will feature musical performances and a 
possible all-star video tribute to
Clinton.

"It's shaping up to be our goodbye gift to a president we adore," said one planner. 
"Everyone involved is very excited.
This is not just going to be another one of those Wolfgang Puck-catered dinners... 
there is no more emotional project right
now. Not even the production of 'Pearl Harbor' can match this."

Money raised will seed elaborate plans for the Clinton Presidential Library, Arkansas, 
which has become a top concern for
such powerplayers as Steven Spielberg and David Geffen.

Clinton claims he's been consulting on the library with Spielberg. "We're talking 
about whether we could have some virtual
reality effects in my library in the museum," Clinton told a Hollywood crowd last year.

The Geff, and others, will make checks payable to The William J. Clinton Presidential 
Foundation, a recently-created
nonprofit group.

Guests will also be encouraged to give money to help off-set Clinton's legal burden 
[although many in Hollywood have
already hit the legal limit for contributing to that fund.].

It is not clear if the Democratic National Committee will get any table scraps. Nearly 
$3 million was collected for the DNC
during last weekend's Clinton/Gore baton pass in Beverly Hills.

Clinton fundraising pal Terry McAuliffe is king planner of the goodbye tribute -- a 
tribute McAuliffe is already calling
"the greatest political event ever."

---
Filed by Matt Drudge
http://www.drudgereport.com/matt.htm
--
Bard

There's not a dime bit of difference between a DemoRat and a RepubRat,
they're simply two wings of the same bird of prey.

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[CTRL] City Collar of San Francisco

2000-04-18 Thread Alamaine

 This is an obvous case of a person confusing his subject (!) matter with the
country in which he lives.  Should he, and his department colleagues, recognise
that it's the "American" language with which we concern ourselves, this little
difference of opinion would burn off like the SF fog (that has certainly
obscured his perceptions of things, people, and events).  AER 

From www.wsws.org

WSWS : News  Analysis : The Internet
Internet free speech under attack in San Francisco libel suit
By Mike Ingram
18 April 2000
Back to screen version

A libel trial taking place in San Francisco could have major implications for
freedom of speech on the Internet, according to the American Civil Liberties
Union (ACLU).

The case involves an English professor, Daniel Curzon Brown, who teaches at the
City College in San Francisco. Brown claims that a web site set up by a former
student in 1997 has carried libellous comments about him.

The site, teacherreview.com, was set up by Ryan Lathouwers as an online
resource for students trying to decide what classes and teachers to select. The
site allows students to post reviews of their teachers together with lecturers'
comments. Since its launch in September 1997, more than 5,000 individual
reviews of 600 City College instructors have been posted and the site has been
visited more than 100,000 times.

In October 1999 Brown filed a class action lawsuit on behalf of himself and all
other City College employees "who have been or will be defamed by the content
of Teacher Review". His suit seeks monetary damages and an injunction
prohibiting the posting of "defamatory" reviews on the web site and prohibiting
either City College or the Associated Students from linking to the site.

In fact, the rest of the 1,700 teaching staff at the college have ignored the
comments posted or avoided the site itself. Brown has singled out particularly
vicious comments relating to his sexuality and mental state. In one posting he
is described as "homomanic, racist and mentally ill". The majority of comments,
however, are by students expressing their opinion of his teaching. They include
comments such as "pompous" and "the worst teacher I have ever had the
opportunity of knowing."

The site includes a "bottom 10" of the teachers who have received more than 25
reviews and Brown ranks fifth on that list.

The ACLU has come to the defence of Lathouwers in the interests of free speech
as protected under the First Amendment to the US Constitution. Other defendants
in the case—the San Francisco Community College District, which is the
governing body of City College, and the Associated Students of City
College—agree that the First Amendment covers the comments.

Ann Brick of the ACLU California staff said, "The Teacher Review website is a
perfect example of how the Internet functions as a unique and valuable
information source. If permitted to proceed, this case would sound the death
knell for any website or bulletin board allowing members of the pubic to
exchange opinions."

Lawyers acting for Lathouwers said, "Imagine a liberal arts professor unable to
tolerate his students expressing their own opinions, and unwilling to allow
students to draw their own conclusions from what others have to say.
Fortunately, the First Amendment prevents people like Professor Curzon Brown
from using lawsuits to silence their critics."

At present US Internet Service Providers (ISP) are protected under the 1996
Communications Decency Act, which essentially allows ISPs immunity from libel
laws. In a number of previous cases, the US courts have upheld the position
that an ISP is not liable for the content carried on their service. In a legal
brief presented by the ACLU in October 1999 they argue that the purpose of the
1996 legislation was twofold. Firstly its purpose was "to maintain the robust
nature of Internet communication and, accordingly, keep government interference
in the medium to a minimum". The argument is cited from a failed case against
America Online in 1997. The law was also "'to encourage service providers to
self-regulate the dissemination of offensive material over their services
without fear of incurring liability or reserving the power to do so or for
having exercised that power imperfectly," the lawyers argue.

The ACLU argue that in adopting the 1996 legislation, Congress "made a policy
choice ... not to deter harmful online speech through the separate route of
imposing tort liability on companies that serve as intermediaries for other
parties' potentially injurious messages".

Previous precedents are no absolute guarantee, however, against the erosion of
free speech on the Internet. With the number of cases against ISPs increasing,
it is entirely possible that one of these will set new precedents within the
US. Even if this is not the case, such is the international character of the
Internet that it is by no means clear where a US-based provider would stand if
it were subject to legal action by an 

[CTRL] AS1 (04-18-00): Imperial Burdens

2000-04-18 Thread Alamaine

From
http://www.antiwar.com/goldstein/pf/p-g041800.html

Someone say "Dunkirk" ?  AER 

{{Begin}}
Airstrip One
by Emmanuel Goldstein
Antiwar.com
April 18, 2000
The Empire Struck Back
Despite the great heroism of the Imperial troops, the Empire almost killed
Britain in 1940

BRITAIN’S DOORSTEP
In 1940 Britain almost died. German troops had defeated Britain in France. Only
by a stroke of luck had the majority of British troops managed to make it home,
lightly armed. France and Poland, Britain’s European allies had been smashed.
Britain was bleeding gold and assets to her creditors. Hitler was on our
doorstep and we were running out of money. It was a desperate time. However,
Britain did have allies, the Commonwealth and Empire. They helped her through,
indeed they may have been the key to her survival. Really?

IMPERIAL BRAVERY
This article will argue that Britain’s empire was a liability that almost
killed her. What it will not argue is that Britain was badly served by the
troops of the Empire. The Imperial troops fought bravely in a fight that, from
a strategic standpoint, was mostly not their fight. Canada was under no threat
whatsoever considering the friendly relations she enjoyed with America. South
Africa and Rhodesia put many troops into action without a German colony on
their whole continent. The Indians, the Australians and the New Zealanders went
further. They put themselves at risk from the Japanese by involving themselves
in a European quarrel. In addition, many other colonies from Britain’s
extensive Empire endured siege or occupation bravely. There is no questioning
the bravery and selflessness of the Imperial troops. However, would Britain
have fought better without an Empire?

GARRISONING THE WORLD
The strength of Britain’s empire was supposedly due to its size. It was the
Empire’s very size that almost killed Britain. Britain’s peacetime army
stationed a third of her army in India and a sixth of it in the other (non-
Dominion) colonies. That was a half of the admittedly small army. This was over
and above the troops raised from the colonies. So half of Britain’s army was
stationed abroad, when it was quiet. The British Navy was also stationed abroad
in the South Atlantic, the Mediterranean, the Pacific; anywhere it seemed apart
from British waters.

OVERSTRETCH
Britain’s actual deployments, however, were dwarfed by her potential
deployments. Looking at the old school maps where the British realms were
coloured red makes one realise just how overextended the British were. The
British Empire bordered on China, Tibet, Afghanistan, Thailand, the French,
Dutch and Portuguese empires, Argentina, Guatemala, Brazil, Venezuela, Iran and
many other countries. Then there was the question of internal revolts in a vast
and diverse Empire, groups as different as the Afrikaans National Party and the
Indian Congress opposed the war. Britain was lucky that so many of them were
neutral rather than actively hostile. Another point was the informal Empire.
The British Empire was on four different levels. Firstly there were the
independent dominions; then there was India, which was in a category of its
own; then the colonies, which included everything else under formal British
domain; and finally there were the protectorates. These were independent states
that signed military alliances with Britain, in order to protect the extended
trade routes within the Empire. Kuwait, Qatar and Sharijah in the Persian Gulf
guarded the oil routes. Egypt allowed the Suez Canal through. Kashmir and Nepal
were relics from the Great Game in the Himalayas. How could a nation of forty
five million people be expected to protect all of it?

THE FINEST HOUR
Of course, Britain could not protect all her Empire at once. She did not expect
to. The First World War may have been fought on a wide canvass, but it was
still a predominantly European battle. This was not the case in the Second
World War, which was fought ferociously in Asia, the Pacific and North Africa.
Britain was simply unable to defend everyone at once. That the Royal Navy would
not sail to the Far East as promised is still a source of bitterness to many
Australians. In fact, the promise was made in anticipation of the French fleet
holding the Mediterranean and Churchill promised the fleet if Australia or New
Zealand was attacked "on a large scale", whatever that meant. Even where there
where British troops, this did not always help, with an inadequately defended
Malaya leading the Japanese Army to the fortress of Singapore. Suddenly Britain
found her great strength to be a fatally bleeding wound.

THE DOMINION’S STATE
Britain’s lack of preparation for the Second World War is now an historical
commonplace. However, compared to her dominions or colonies Britain was
positively martial. The Dominions (Australia, New Zealand, Canada and South
Africa) had 40% of the population of Great Britain. Yet they provided five
divisions to Britain’s thirty-four in 1940. Britain also 

[CTRL] Skeptic News - Tuesday #1

2000-04-18 Thread Ric Carter

SkeptiNews 000418a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

* Yesterday's bulletins: http://web.pitas.com/skeptinews/17_04_2000.html
* Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
* PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh?
* Site of latest notices, excuses, news/views: http://skeptilog.pitas.com
* No conspirators were trephinated during the production of this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ Geek Erotica: http://www.geekculture.com/culture/erotica/eroticamain.html
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Top-Secret Access - UFO Buffs Flock to Satellite Images of Area 51 on
  Internet. RALEIGH, NC (AP) — Buildings. Roadways. Buses. A swimming pool.
  No little green men. The first detailed satellite images of Area 51, the
  top-secret Air Force test site in Nevada, apparently reveal nothing out of
  the ordinary. Then again, UFO buffs might just think it’s another trick.
  http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/science/DailyNews/area51000418.html

@ What Is A UFO? - A Beginners Guide To UFO Spotting - details of conducting
  a scientific investigation of UFO- related phenomena - everything except
  the scientific method:  http://www.sightings.com/general/whatis.htm

: Have you manipulated any images of Area51/UFOs/ETs/robots/me lately? D'ya
know what the scientific method is?Are conspiracy theories, paranormalities,
UFOs, religious beliefs, susceptible to investigation by that method? How?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Latest UFO Sightings: Triangles, Boomerangs, Cigars, Discs Seen By Dozens:
  NEW JERSEY - PUERTO RICO - PENNSYLVANIA - INDIANA - WEST VIRGINIA - MISS-
  OURI - NORTHEAST US - ARKANSAS - TEXAS - MONTANA - CALIFORNIA - NEW ZEAL-
  AND - LIFE BEYOND EARTH - WRIGHT-PATTERSON AFB - ROSWELL EVIDENCE - HOW
  TO PHOTOGRAPH UFOs: http://www.sightings.com/general/filers41800.htm

# China Boldly Moving Forward Into The Paranormal World"
  http://augustachronicle.com/stories/041800/tec_UX5102-7.shtml
# KIDNAPPED BY UFOs? Exploring the Alien Abduction Phenomenon. This feature
  contains disturbing material. (Nova) http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/aliens/

: Are you disturbed by UFOs? Do you control UFOs? D'ya like to disturb folk?
D'ya show yourself here and there, teasingly, tauntingly, arrogantly, just
to whip up human emotions, so we'll foam and froth and act entertaining? Eh?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# SPACEVIEWS 2000.16 - Shuttle Repairs Done - Congress Flays NASA re: Mars -
  Satellite Problem Delays Ariane 5 Launch - Thruster Problem Could Shake Up
  Launch Schedules - NASA Report on X-33 Problems  Future Plans Due Soon -
  Russian President Pledges Support for Mir and ISS - Astronomers Push the
  Limits of Observable Universe - Could Life Exist Near Europa's Surface?
  The Future of Mars Exploration: http://www.spaceviews.com/2000/0417/

# WHAT'S NEW AT NASA: Cassini survives asteroids - paint-stripping robots -
  NEAR in 100 km orbit - space drill with Earth uses - Hubble turns ten! -
  MGS does Mars' South Pole - protoplanet suspect cleared? Ulysses hits
  comet tail - MGS Cydonia images compiled - Cluster II shipment delayed -
  astrobiology conference : http://spacescience.nasa.gov/whatsnew.html
# Better Space Weather Forecasting: http://newshub.com/cgibin/rd.cgi?9697636

: What's your favorite space news? Should off-Earth news have its own 24-hr
TV channel? D'ya prefer Earth news, Space news, Real news, Imaginary news?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Tetris takes over tower block. (BBC) The world's largest game of Tetris is
  currently dropping its frustrating electronic blocks down 12 storeys of a
  university building in the US. Source: hallucination from excessive video
  gaming. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_718000/718009.stm

# BATTLE FOR SPECTRUM - Are you on my wavelength? (BBC) The trend for
  wireless everything is causing chronic congestion on the airwaves.
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_716000/716445.stm

# Computer chips by the yard - junior scientist improves organic
  semiconductors - prospect for acres of organic solar cells:
  http://www.eurekalert.org/releases/dfg-ccb041800.html

: How much electronics is enough? Is your body/mind/soul been overgrown with
electronic devices yet? When will you be fully implanted with organic chips?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Biblical Museum Full of Dinosaurs - Creationism Lives. FLORENCE,Ky.(AP) A
  fundamentalist ministry is raising money for a museum based on the premise
  that dinosaurs roamed the earth within the past few thousand years, that
  all people are descended from Adam and Eve and that the Bible is a literal
  account of creation. http://www.newshub.com/cgibin/rd.cgi?9691898

# Stones From Darwin Estate Displayed. LONDON (ap) - Stones from the country
  estate where scientist Charles Darwin developed his theories on evolution
  were placed Tuesday on the roof of a new building at the Natural History
  Museum that will bear his name. 

[CTRL] rapist's alter ego castro's plan for 'readapting' Elian's mind

2000-04-18 Thread Bard

   Havana house ready for Elian's "readaptation"



   Updated 9:48 PM ET 
April 17, 2000

   HAVANA (Reuters) - Cuban state TV showed images Monday of a seaside house in Havana 
ready to receive
   6-year- old castaway Elian Gonzalez if the custody dispute over his future ends 
with his return from the United States.

   The large house, with a swimming pool, has been prepared as a residency and school 
for Elian, his closest family, 12
   schoolmates, and some teachers, during a "transition" period of at least three 
months, child experts told Cuban state
   TV.

   "This will be the place where little Elian Gonzalez adapts to his new conditions of 
life after his return to the fatherland,"
   a reporter said, against images of freshly painted and well-equipped bedrooms and 
classrooms inside the house.

   State TV said the house would be used for Elian's "readaptation" if he returns soon 
with his father under one of two
   options being proposed by Havana to resolve the five-month- old custody battle.

   Another option, which Washington does not seem too keen on, is for Elian's teachers 
and schoolmates to travel to the
   United States to create a Cuban-style atmosphere for him there while he lives with 
his father and awaits a final court
   appeal.

   Both scenarios pre-suppose a prompt reunion between Elian and his father, Juan 
Miguel Gonzalez, who traveled to
   Washington 10 days ago to try and break the impasse over his son's future.

   Elian is still living with U.S. relatives in Miami, where he has been since his 
dramatic rescue at sea last November.
   Elian's mother and 10 other Cubans died when a boat full of illegal migrants 
capsized trying to reach Florida.

   U.S. government efforts to speed a father-son reunion have been thwarted by the 
Miami relatives' legal struggle to
   keep custody of the boy.

   After Elian's "readaptation" process, whether in Washington or Havana, the boy will 
return to his provincial hometown
   of Cardenas, on Cuba's northern coast, state TV said.

   The Havana house was ready to receive Elian and would provide the "most adequate 
medium for him to adapt, and to
   make a transition from these difficult moments he has experienced," said a teacher 
preparing the building.

   The house appeared a good deal grander than the humble cottage on a pot-holed 
street in which his father lives in
   Cardenas.

   The feud over Elian has pitted President Fidel Castro's communist government -- 
backing the father -- against its
   arch-enemies in Florida's large, Cuban-American community. The U.S. anti-Castro 
groups back the Miami relatives'
   position that Elian should not be sent back to communism.

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From The Times (UK)
http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2000/04/16/stinwenws01035.html

{{Begin}}

April 16 2000
BRITAIN

Ailing troops sue over Balkan war syndrome

SOLDIERS who served in the former Yugoslavia plan to sue the Ministry of
Defence (MoD)after suffering chronic health problems they believe were caused
by "Balkan war syndrome", writes Lois Rogers.

Doctors link their symptoms to exposure to depleted uranium in anti-tank
missiles used during the Kosovo conflict. Research has shown that the heavy
metal causes health problems leading to cancer, neurological and immune system
defects and reproductive system damage.

Up to 10,500 Britons were sent to Kosovo to assist in peacekeeping missions and
many were exposed to the fine, poisonous dust, which remains in the atmosphere
and pollutes water supplies, after Nato's bombardment.

However, the MoD said: "We have done considerably more research into depleted
uranium than other nations as it has been raised as a concern for a number of
Gulf war veterans. We have seen no evidence to suggest it is the cause of any
illness among them and we are not aware of any compensation claims from Kosovo
veterans."

Twelve servicemen - 11 of whom are still serving - are preparing to sue. If the
initial claims are successful, they could open the floodgates for a multi-
million-pound group action which could deeply embarrass the government.

The MoD is still struggling to fend off claims by thousands of Gulf war
veterans, who say they were made seriously ill by a hastily administered
cocktail of vaccines in-tended to protect them from biological warfare agents.

Belgium, which had troops serving alongside British soldiers in Kosovo, has
already begun a systematic review of the health of the 14,000 troops it sent to
the region. Tests have identified cases of men suffering the effects of
exposure to uranium - even though they were not de-ployed in high-risk areas.

In Britain, however, the official response has been unequivocal. A secret memo
circulated two weeks ago to army medical staff by the biological weapons unit
at Porton Down has insisted there was no evidence of risk to British troops who
served in Kosovo.

"I don't know how they can say that," said a 27-year-old man still in the
airborne unit he served with in Kosovo. He has been crippled by fatigue.

"We are expected to do regular five-mile runs as part of our training, and I
just can't make it," he said. "I am dreading my next medical in June. I am
going to be thrown out."

Another 24-year-old, who is also still in the army, re-ported debilitating
fatigue and excruciating joint pain. "People like us just have no future," he
said.

America was the only allied force to use depleted uranium (DU) in its missiles.
So far it has admitted to firing about 10 tons of DU-bearing missiles from
aircraft over Kosovo last year. Requests for details on missile rounds used in
Serbia have been resisted.

Dan Fahey, a DU re-searcher at the Military Toxins Project in Washington, said:
"We know it has been used in many more locations than we have been led to
believe. The biggest danger is to the local population."

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[CTRL] Whorehouse Next to Elian's School in Cuba

2000-04-18 Thread Bard

http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2000/4/17/210822
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Whorehouse Next to Elian's School in Cuba

If six-year-old Elian Gonzalez is sent back to his father's home in Cardenas, Cuba, he'll live in a house permeated by black smoke belching from the neighborhood rum factory and go to a school where, just yards away, state sanctioned hookers ply their trade.
Prostitution is big business in Cuba, reports Cindy Adams in her Monday column, available only in The New York Post's print edition.  And Elian's school is right across the street from the best little whore house in Cardenas, says the columnist.
Adams' source?  Karen Feld, a freelance reporter with whom she's worked in the past and who, during a recent trip to Castro's Caribbean Alcatraz, broke away from the government-sponsored tour and instead visited the street where Elian's dad, Juan Miguel Gonzalez lives.
Private telephones are rare in Cuba, says Feld.  The homes in Gonzalez's neighborhood are a shambles ... Small fish swim in the gutter in front of his house.
The bathroom is a curtained-off area.  Behind the curtain a hole in the concrete floor ...  Electricity is minimal, Adams reports Feld told her.
An apple costs one dollar.  Kids hustle strangers for money, soap, pens, notebooks, aspirin.  The prettiest building in the area is the brothel.
Feld knocked on the door and struck up a conversation with three hookers inside:
They appeared chatty until I asked what they thought about Elian.  Then they became scared.  They motioned they could not speak, said Feld.
One of the prostitutes explained to the American reporter, We are not free to discuss capitalism, prostitution or drug use.
Traveling back to Elian's school, Feld discovered 900 children in red and white uniforms.  She asked one teacher what the student-teacher ratio is.  We are not permitted to give out such information, Feld was told.
As for Cuba's vaunted health care system, Adams' friend discovered that the town where the Clinton administration wants Elian to live does indeed have a Soviet-built hospital.  But glowing reports in the American media about Castro's medical miracle have apparently been exaggerated.  
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[CTRL] panderer algore touts rapist: ..an outstanding CINC..

2000-04-18 Thread Bard

panderer, as defined by Webster's Dictionary:

1. a person who furnishes clients for a prostitute or supplies persons for illicit 
sexual intercourse:  procurer; pimp.

2. a person who caters to or profits from the weaknessess or vices of others.

3. a go-between in amorous intrigues.

4. to act as a pander:  cater basely.

The following article exudes the ultimate in hypocrisy!
---


 TUESDAY
 APRIL 18
  2000


  ELECTION 2000
  Al Gore as commander in chief
  VP talks with military editors
  about his plans for armed forces


  By Jon E. Dougherty
  © 2000 WorldNetDaily.com

  Calling President Clinton "an outstanding
  commander in chief," Vice President Al Gore
  said if he is elected to assume the role of
  supreme U.S. forces commander in November,
  his main military priorities would be to raise
  pay, prioritize U.S. military involvement around
  the world and maintain an increase in defense
  spending.

  Gore spoke at the U.S. Naval Observatory April
  16 to editors of the various Military Times
  magazines -- the Army Times, Navy Times,
  Marine Corps Times and the Air Force Times.
  He said that, although the Clinton
  administration had recently approved "the
  largest military pay increase in almost 20 years,"
  too many military personnel and their families
  are still qualified for welfare benefits.

  "Specifically, in a Gore administration, there
  will not be a single member of the armed
  services paid so low that they are eligible for,
  that he or she is eligible for, food stamps," the
  vice president said, noting that 9,000 of 2.4
  million service members still qualify for
  government assistance, even after the
  administration's pay increase this year.

  "I want to end that," said Gore, adding, "I don't
  want to wait for the beginning of the next
  administration to end it. I will be making
  specific recommendations as a member of this
  administration on how I think that can be
  ended."

  Saying there "has to be a very clear rationale that
  involves a strategic interest of the United States"
  before placing U.S. forces in harm's way, Gore
  said he would base any decision to deploy U.S.
  military might on key factors such as:

   Is there an important national security
   interest?

   Are there allies?

   Is military action or deployment the only
   way to protect the specific national
   security interest?

   If force is used, can it actually achieve the
   stated objective?

   If undertaken, will the mission have costs
   that are not disproportionate to the
   objective that we desire to attain?

   What special factors might be involved
   that are unique to the circumstances that
   are under analysis?

  "These and other questions should be
  approached very, very seriously and carefully
  before any of our military forces are deployed
  overseas," Gore told the military news editors.

  Responding to a question about the perception
  that the Clinton administration often has
  alienated military officials and destroyed much
  of the trust between the White House and the
  Pentagon, Gore said, "I think President Clinton
  has been an outstanding commander in chief,"
  adding that Clinton "has invested an enormous
  amount of time and effort in communicating
  with the members of our uniformed military
  services and with the civilian leadership in the
  Pentagon and visiting military personnel in the
  field."

  As commander in chief himself, Gore said he
  would "build upon that record" and "would
  want to draw upon my own experience as an
  enlisted man in the United States Army."

  Gore told the defense editors that as an 

[CTRL] Skeptic News - Tuesday #2

2000-04-18 Thread Ric Carter
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@ Tetris corporate homepage: http://www.tetris.com/

# Military fears over PlayStation2 - wargames of mass destruction:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/asia-pacific/newsid_716000/716237.stm
  http://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/2418/A9984-2000Apr17.html
# Nintendo to hand out gaming gloves - next: total body envelopment:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_671000/671601.stm
# Pamela takes on Lara - Pam Anderson reconstructed as cyberbabe:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/entertainment/newsid_667000/667484.stm

: What are your favorite videogames, wargames, cyberbabes, simulations? Are
you a simulation/cyberbabe/robot? How can we tell? Have you ever been chal-
lenged to prove your humanity? Can you pass the Turing Test? Have you tried?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# PHEROMONES MIGHT ACCELERATE GIRLS' PUBERTY. Pheromones -- odors that men
  and women send out -- may be powerful sexual attractants. Here is a study
  that seems to point out another effect -- girls living with an unrelated
  adult male might mature earlier than girls living with their biological
  father. http://healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=31902

# Bowie's Wife Iman Conceived in Most Peculiar Way. LONDON (Reuters) Like
  the lyrics of his smash hit Space Oddity, veteran rock star David Bowie
   his wife Iman have turned to most peculiar ways this time to conceive
  their unborn child. http://news.excite.com/news/r/000418/11/odd-bowie

# An Elephant Birth on the Internet. ZURICH (Reuters) Zurich's zoo will
  broadcast an elephant birth live on the Net when Ceyla-Himali calves
  next month: http://news.excite.com/news/r/000418/11/odd-elephant

: Do you conceive/reproduce in manners usual for humans/aliens/elephants/me?
Have you chemically/surgically/electronically/spiritually/socially altered
your reproductive processes lately? Do you reproduce in public? On the Net?

# MEN'S  WOMEN'S SEX CLOCKS DON'T KEEP THE SAME TIME!
  http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/stories/1843.html
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

  "A man can either spend his entire life trying to live up to the
   expectations of a demanding father or maybe the old man has
   himself a little accident, ya know?" -- http://www.SleazyTabloid.com

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[CTRL] [Fwd: [TheRevelation] Fw: Fw: Stop Thief!]]

2000-04-18 Thread Bard


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- Original Message -

 Stop Thief!

  An elderly woman had just returned to her home from an evening of
 religious service when she was startled by an intruder. As she caught
 the man in the act of robbing her home of its valuables, she yelled,
 "Stop - Acts 2:38!"
 The burglar stopped dead in his tracks. The woman calmly called the
 police and explained what she had done.
 As the officer cuffed the man to take him in, he asked the burglar,
 "Why did you just stand there? All she did was yell a scripture to you."
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[CTRL] FW: DR. HULDA CLARK CHARGES DISMISSED! HALLELUJAH!!!

2000-04-18 Thread Dave

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PRESS RELEASE
for Immediate Release

CHARGES “DISMISSED” IN HULDA CLARK CASE


In what was jubilant news for Hulda Regehr Clark,
PhD., attorney Steve Dillon’s office stated that the
judge had granted the defense “Motion-to-Dismiss” in
the charges against Clark for allegedly “Practicing
Medicine Without a License” in Indiana.  The “Motion
to Dismiss” was based on the extreme length of time
that had elapsed since charges were first filed in
June of 1993 and Dr. Clark found out about them when
she was arrested in San Diego, September, 20th 1999.

Seventy-one-year-old Hulda Clark, the controversial
author of books such as “The Cure for all Cancers,”
“The Cure for HIV/AIDS,” “The Cure For All Diseases”
and her latest book, “The Cure for all Advanced
Cancers” had been arrested in San Diego and held for
16 days before being transported in a 32 hour marathon
ride to Indiana where she was released on bail the
next day. Supporters around the world have rallied to
her cause, sending e-mails and letters to the courts,
and the media.

Since then, Dr. Clark has received the “New Scientist
of the Year Award” in Colorado, has spoken to standing
room only crowds in Kentucky and Canada and taught
about her testing device, the syncrometer, to classes
of interested people.  She is continuing her research
and updating her books.

“Hallelujah” rejoiced Dr. Clark, when told of this
decision. She went on to say, “This sets a progressive
tone. I hope it’s futuristic, reflecting the
appreciation of the public for the new skills of the
Alternative Practitioner.”

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[CTRL] Ambrose Bierce Update

2000-04-18 Thread nessie

I found this on www.altcity.com:


Liberal - A wealthy person who comprehends that his or her relatively
comfortable position in life was assisted--at least in part--by birth or
fortunate circumstances. A  person who suffers from empathy for those less
fortunate bordering on guilt--such that this person sees fit to support
inefficient and bloated bureaucratic programs ostensibly designed to
assist the economically disadvantaged but that generally serve only to
further line the pockets of the already well-to-do and that are extremely
 unlikely to deliver 2 cents worth of actual directed benefit for every
tax dollar spent.

Conservative - A wealthy person who is willing to make everyone pay for
big government only if it helps facilitate or preserve an economic system
that wholly benefits anyone who has already got his or hers. A person who
preaches less  government and bureaucracy while rushing to spend countless
billions on defense,  prisons, police, highways and other corporate
welfare. An individual who thinks that the only legitimate arena for
government is an unfathomably expensive "home security system" for the
rich and who believes that the rest of government's services would be more
fairly distributed by the free market system--in other words, only to
those with the means to afford them. A person who either has no empathy
for those  less fortunate or is somehow able to rationalize any away--such
that this person sees fit to support inefficient and bloated bureaucratic
programs designed primarily to punish the economically disadvantaged but
that generally serve only to further line the pockets of the already
well-to-do and that are extremely unlikely to deliver 2 cents worth of
actual directed punishment for every tax dollar spent. Since so few
Americans (5% at most) actually benefit economically from such policies,
core  conservatives have wisely formed a coalition with social
conservatives who come  from a wide variety of economic backgrounds but
who are strangely more concerned  with revenge, xenophobia and other
people's religious, sexual and reproductive  choices than their own
pocketbooks.

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Re: [CTRL] French Want WWW Speed Bump

2000-04-18 Thread Robert F. Tatman

It's possible that what is going on here is a convoluted attack by the
Oligarchy on the left/libertarian/progressive elements on the Internet
rather than on the Nazi groupies. Remember that the Oligarchy has much more
in common with the Nazis than it does with the progressives...and that the
Internet has been used to very good effect to organize against the Oligarchy
in recent months. It's easy enough to justify banning the sale of Nazi
memorabilia over the Internet, both because of the "negative cachet"
attached to them and because such sales are in fact already banned in
Germany. But, as the article points out, once the precedent has been
established, we will undoubtedly see attempts to use it against groups such
as those that organized the Seattle and Washington actions. I might suggest
that the first use of such an attack will be against the groups preparing
for the Republican and Democratic national conventions this summer. "Indeed
do many things come to pass."

- Original Message -
From: "Alamaine" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 11:56 AM
Subject: [CTRL] French Want WWW Speed Bump
snip


 The issue that should occupy socialist and progressive forces is not
protests
 against the sale of fascist memorabilia but how to develop a coherent mass
 political movement against such reactionary forces. In this the freedom of
the
 Internet is crucial. If the French courts can impose a ban on Yahoo!'s US
site
 on this issue, the way will be open for them and others to do so in
relation to
 other matters. On the Internet, as in other spheres of life, legal action
 intended to oppose the forces of the right will inevitably be used with
greater
 force against those on the left.

snip

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[CTRL] Schroedinger's Eskimo?

2000-04-18 Thread WK

Is this an example of a person in a superposed (non-reduced)
quantum state?

It seems to me that the practical potential here for cryogenic
preservation is enormous.

http://www.sightings.com/general/mancold.htm
Title: Man 'Made Cold By The Universe' Seen By Scores Who Knew Him





  SIGHTINGS
  
  
  
  Man 'Made Cold By 
  The Universe' Seen By 
  Scores Who Knew Him
  By Liz Ruskin - Anchorage Daily News
  From Fred Colvin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  5-15-00
  
  
  

  


BETHEL - In villages along
the Kuskokwim River and in this hub city, scores of people have reported
catching sight of Richard Pavilla, a 38-year-old man who disappeared in
December while on a snowmachine trip from his home village of Atmautluak.

Pavilla, they say, is still  alive but he is in a rare
condition in which he is  feather-light and as wary as a wild bird.

It has happened in the past, but it's kind of long
and in between, said 77-year-old Peter Jacobs, through a Yup'ik translator.
That person is not dead. The spirit is still with the body, but he's
in a different state.

The Alaska State Troopers ended their search for Pavilla
more than three months ago, 12 days after they found the body of Pavilla's
companion and the snowmachine the two were riding. The troopers presume
Pavilla is dead, too. But day after day, Bethel's search and rescue coordinator
keeps taking the reports of people who say they've seen the lost man.

Pavilla and Richard Tikiun, 27, left Christmas Eve on
a snowmachine for Bethel, about 30 miles away across the frozen tundra.
People in the village told troopers the men had been drinking and may have
been planning to pick up Tikiun's stash of alcohol on the way. Searchers
found Tikiun's body Dec. 28, four miles from Atmautluak and just north
of the main trail to Bethel. He lay face down on the ground next to his
snowmachine and an empty vodka bottle, troopers said.

Pavilla, troopers said, obviously stayed alive for a
while, despite fierce winds and temperatures that dropped to minus 30 degrees.

Searchers found a series of windbreaks made of snow blocks
and tree branches, snow caves dug into drifts and even a hastily made igloo,
as well as several sets of tracks thought to be Pavilla's.

It was shortly after New Year's when the first sighting
of the lost man was reported, said Peter Atchak, Bethel's volunteer search
and rescue coordinator. Five of the searchers, Pavilla's cousins, reported
seeing a solitary figure on foot about eight miles southwest of Bethel.

They thought it was a searcher, but when they were
approaching close he took off running, Atchak said. The person crossed
the frozen river and was gone, the cousins reported.

The next report came a couple of days later. A group
of youngsters were driving a truck from Napakiak upriver to Bethel when
someone came out of the brush toward them. They got frightened and drove
off, Atchak said.

The troopers ended their search Jan. 9, figuring no one
could survive so long in such severe weather.

The volunteer search and rescue group kept looking, and
Atchak kept track of the reported sightings. They came from up and down
the Kuskokwim and from villages on the coast. In all, there were more than
50 reports from 10 villages. People also reported seeing Pavilla in Bethel
- near the high school, at the hospital and crouched under a woman's house.

Atchak said he has repeatedly investigated reports of
boot prints and found they were made by size 7 Sorels, just like Pavilla's.

I wouldn't have believed it myself if I hadn't
seen his tracks, his footprints and the way they disappeared, he
said.

To learn more, Atchak convened meetings of elders in
Bethel. More than 100 came.

Pavilla is stuck between two worlds, some of the old
people told him. It happens sometimes: People get lost, become very frightened
and fall into these states. Their senses sharpen so that they can hear
rabbits and foxes running in the woods. They don't feel the cold. They
are not ghosts, but their bodies become so light they can walk on top of
trees and cross wide rivers like the Kuskokwim in a hop or two.

The Yup'ik term for it, Atchak said, is cillem quellra.
Roughly translated: made cold by the universe.

I've been hearing (about) that since I was a little
girl, said Neva Rivers, a Hooper Bay elder.

Martha Larson, of Napakiak, said her family had a brief
brush with this phenomenon. In the late 1950s, her teenage sister got lost
at their summer fish camp. She was missing only about half a day. When
the sister came back she told them that she could hear her family calling
her but she was too afraid to show herself.

Something happens to you 

Re: [CTRL] [LIFE-GAZETTE] Christianity is not worth SHIT (fwd)

2000-04-18 Thread Nurev Ind Research

Franklin Wayne Poley wrote:

 -- Forwarded message --
 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 21:05:11 -0700 (PDT)
 From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
  [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [LIFE-GAZETTE] "Christianity is not worth SHIT"

 And Jesus Christ said so. The whores of babylon from Vatican Inc. to
 Graham have proven the truth of His statement: "NOT FIT FOR THE DUNG
 HILL" or, in plain English...NOT WORTH SHIT, ie the 'salt and light' who
 have LOST IT.

 Who said:

 I came ONLY to find the lost sheep of Israel;

 and,

 "Salvation is of the Jews".

 According to my Traditional Jewish Prayer Book (given to me by an elderly
 Saskatchewan rum runner from the Bronfmann Era), Judaism has never
 called for an UNREASONING FAITH. And, TORAH MEANS TEACHING. (and hey...my
 elderly rum runner mentor even speaks some Hebrew...a language which was
 invented long before Jacob/Israel).

 Therefore I suggest you sub to Life-Gazette by sending a blank email to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Thank you for your reply...I am naturally impressed by those who keep my
 humble epistles for such a long time in their HD's!
 FWP
 (Learned Elder of Zion)

HOLY SHIT POLEY !!! WHO THE HELL INVITED YOU TO BE AN ELDER OF ZION?

My Great Uncle Hymie ( for whom NYC is named after, ) is head of the
Learned Elders of Zion, and went ape shit upon hearing of your conversion.
He delicately queried " Does that no good Khazar bastard retard think he
can just decide to become a LEZ?" " May all his teeth fall out but one, and
that one should always ache!"

So forget it Poley. You don't have the right stuff.

Joshua2
For Uncle Hymie.


 "Operation Golem" :

 http://users.uniserve.com/~culturex/Machine-Psychology.htm

 And when I meet St. Peter I will partially retract what I have said,
 knowing that those early Pro-Christ Jews were "the real McCoys".

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[CTRL] Truth is out there - on the Web - about secret Air Force test site

2000-04-18 Thread Steve Wingate

Truth is out there - on the Web - about secret Air Force test site

Copyright © 2000 Nando Media
Copyright © 2000 Associated Press

By MARTHA WAGGONER, Associated Press

RALEIGH, N.C. (April 18, 2000 2:48 p.m. EDT
http://www.nandotimes.com) - The truth is out there - on the Web. Photos of
Area 51, the
super-secret Air Force test site in Nevada that has long tantalized UFO and
conspiracy buffs and fans of "The X-Files," are being posted on
the Internet.

"This is the first glimpse into the most secret training and testing facility for
the Air Force," said John Hoffman, president of Aerial Images Inc.
of Raleigh.

The company planned to post five images of the site, divided into four
frames each, in collaboration with Microsoft, Kodak, Digital Equipment
Corp., Autometric Inc. and the Russian agency Sovinformsputnik.

The partners launched a Russian satellite from Kazakstan in 1998 to map
Earth's surface and Area 51. An open-skies agreement signed in
1992 by 24 nations, including the United States and Russia, made the
effort possible.

The Air Force only recently acknowledged that Groom Dry Lake Air Force
Base even exists. The 8,000-square-mile base is 75 miles
northwest of Las Vegas, in the arid, rugged Nellis Range.

Beginning with the U-2 spy plane in the 1950s, the base has been the
testing ground for a host of top-secret aircraft, including the SR-71
Blackbird and, more recently, the F-117A stealth fighter and B-2 stealth
bomber.

The base's airspace is restricted; aircraft are not allowed to fly over it. But
satellite overflights are allowed as part of an agreement to verify
arms-control compliance.

Among UFO aficionados, it has long been known simply as Area 51, the
base's designation on old Nevada test site maps. They believe that
unidentified flying objects from other worlds are hidden at the base, where
their parts are copied for U.S. prototypes.

The images, with resolution good enough to distinguish a car from a truck,
are better than earlier telephoto shots from the nearby mountains.
The only other known image purportedly was shot by a satellite in the
1960s. It is much fuzzier.

"There are runways, there are buildings, there are buses, there are test
sites, but there aren't any little green men or super-secret aircraft to be
seen," Hoffman said of the new photos.

Several government agencies are aware of the images and haven't
responded, said Hoffman, 52, a Vietnam veteran who recently retired from
the National Guard after 23 years. "I've had no feedback from anybody that
indicates anybody gives a hoot," he said.

An Air Force spokeswoman would not comment Monday on any security
concerns about the images.

"We acknowledge having an operating site there, and the work is
classified," spokeswoman Gloria Cales said. The work involves
"operations
critical to the U.S. military and the country's security."

Aerial Images plans to offer a link to the Area 51 pages. Viewing the
images is free; downloading them costs $8.95 and up. Kodak will print
photographs for $20 to $30.

The images show craters, some seemingly formed by something dropped
from the sky, others possibly by something coming out of the
ground. There are hundreds of buildings, living quarters, tennis courts, a
baseball field, a track and a swimming pool.

There are no paved roads and no parking lots; buses are the only visible
vehicles, raising the question of how employees get to and from
work. Unpaved roads disappear into cliffsides, suggesting a possible
underground network.

A shrouded aircraft is visible on a ramp, unusual considering the Air Force
knows when Russian satellites are overhead, Hoffman said.

Walter Andrus Jr., international director of the Mutual UFO Network, based
in Seguin, Texas, seemed to have a hard time believing the object
of so much secrecy and discussion would soon be available on the Web.

"We have other photos taken from the ground and from the air, but they
aren't this current," he said.

Even Chris Carter, creator of "The X-Files," apparently was skeptical when
Hoffman contacted him. Some of the show's favorite themes are
UFOs and secret government activities, and one of its mantras is "The truth
is out there."

"He clearly didn't believe me," Hoffman said. "From his tone, you could tell
he didn't believe me that we had Area 51 and we had the whole
area covered."


Steve Wingate

California Director
SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL

Anomalous Images and UFO Files
http://www.anomalous-images.com

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[CTRL] [BRIGADE] VERY URGENT Brigade ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!

2000-04-18 Thread Bill Richer

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Peace at any cost is a prelude to war!


Dear Brigade,

The Bush-Gore cabal and their syndicate of GOP-DEM party bosses are
sitting fat and happy, rubbing their hands in anticipation that Pat Buchanan
will never be able to collect the 56,000 valid signatures needed in Texas
(also
see info for NC below).

Are we going to let these co-conspirators, these extortionists, prevent
Americans from voting for Pat on election day?

It's too late to change their laws that ensure a permanent protection racket
for the GOP-DEM's -- But it's not too late to get down to Texas and wipe
those smirks off their faces!

If you are in Texas tonight and tomorrow PJB will be holding a Petition Rally:

 Tuesday, April 18, 7:00PM
 Sheraton Grand Hotel at DFW Airport
 4440 W John Carpenter Freeway
 Corner of Highway 114  Esthers Blvd.
 Irving, TX (directions: 972.929.8400)

 Wednesday, April 19, 7:00PM
 Houston Marriott West Loop at the Galleria
 1750 West Loop South
 Houston, TX (directions: 713.960.0111)

If you are in another state the Buchanan campaign will PAY you to come to
Texas and help with the petition drive! :

This is your chance to help out in a huge way and have a good time with
campaign staff in the great state of Texas.

If you (or someone you know) will commit to joining one of our petitioning
teams for a minimum of two weeks, the campaign will pay your
travel/lodging expenses and pay you $500 per week. The only stipulation is
that you get at least 100 signatures per day. We will provide you the
petitions, the locations and the training. We need you to start as soon as
possible!

If you are willing to help us in this effort, please send an e-mail reply
to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include:

1. Your name
2. The date you can start
3. Your Location
4. Your Phone Number

or call JOHN STEVENS at Buchanan HQ (703) 734-2700

Brigade, lets take Texas right out from under Dubya and the thieving
racketeers who are robbing the American people of their God-given right to
vote for whomever they damn-well please!

BTW -- The same crap is going on in North Carolina.  They need  51,324
signatures by Monday, April 27th.  If you are registered to vote in the state
of
North Carolina or know Buchanan supporters who are, contact Diana Haas at
 828.297.5155  or Luke Freudenberg at 703.405.6414

Please forward this email to everyone everywhere!
See latest article below.

For the Cause, Linda



Buchanan begins 3-week push to get place on ballot in Texas
04/18/2000
By Carolyn Barta / The Dallas Morning News

The Buchanan Brigade moves into Texas on Tuesday, opening a three-week
battle to get Reform Party presidential hopeful Pat Buchanan on the
November ballot.

Calling it the "toughest state in the nation" for an independent or
third-party
candidate, Mr. Buchanan is mustering volunteers, hired guns and campaign
staff to gather 56,000 petition signatures by May 8.

"Our headquarters is a ghost town," he said Monday in a telephone interview.


Texas is a difficult state because of the large number of signatures required
and little time to circulate petitions. Only the signatures of registered
voters
who did not vote in a party primary or sign any other ballot-access petition
are considered valid.

Mr. Buchanan, who will hold rallies Tuesday night at the Sheraton Grand
Hotel in Irving and Wednesday in Houston, said the Republican Party of
George W. Bush presents no real alternative to the Democrats.

"The problem with Mr. Bush and the party establishment is that they're
almost indistinguishable from Bill Clinton and Al Gore," said Mr. Buchanan, a
former Republican.

He said the Texas governor has declared his "neutrality" on traditional family
values by meeting with gay activists and refusing to rule out potential
running
mates who support abortion rights.

"He has raised the white flag in the cultural war," Mr. Buchanan said. "On
right to life, Gore is militantly pro-abortion and Mr. Bush can teach it
either
way. So where is the difference?"

Other areas of Bush-Gore agreement include trade and immigration, he said.

Meanwhile, Mr. Buchanan said he will not force an anti-abortion plank on the
platform at the Reform Party national convention Aug. 10-13 in Long Beach,
Calif. The party has always eschewed social issues.

He will pledge, however, that his running mate and Supreme Court nominees
will oppose abortion.

Social issues aside, he calls himself a "good fit" for the party founded by
Dallas billionaire Ross Perot because "it is populist, for economic
patriotism,
putting the country first and for keeping America out of wars and conflicts
where we have no vital interests."

Mr. Buchanan is seeking ballot access in 29 states where the Reform Party
is not on the ballot. He has qualified in Utah, South Dakota and Hawaii.

In Texas, he's 

[CTRL] President Clinton: Teaching children responsibility--- Right!!!!

2000-04-18 Thread Bill Richer

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President Clinton:
Teaching children responsibility

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President Clinton can hold as many feel-good White House conferences as he
wants but until he at least attempts to practice what he preaches, these
ballyhooed confabs will hardly be worth the hot air they generate.
Clinton announced that he and Hillary will host a White House Conference on
Teen-agers on May 2 to "talk through the challenges of raising responsible
children." It seems that they were moved by an astonishing piece of research
indicating that the preteen years set patterns for behavior in adulthood.
Wow! You mean to tell me that a child's early influences may affect what he
becomes as an adult? This is almost as shocking as that infamous Time
Magazine story that revealed that men and women were actually born different.

It never ceases to amaze me how liberals commission studies to confirm what
man has known since before the time he didn't descend from the Neanderthal.
But far be it from me to discourage such studies, especially if they finally
supply liberals with data the rest of us acquired by common sense.

Conservatives have always known that a child's upbringing will greatly
influence the type of person he will grow up to be. Critically important are
the example the parents set, the values they impart and the outside
influences to which they expose the child.

As parents, you teach a child the importance of honesty and integrity by
punishing him for lying. You teach responsibility by making him accountable
for his actions. But all your preaching and discipline will be for naught
unless you live your own lives in accordance with those principles. And even
if you discharge your parental duties impeccably your child is still at risk
of being corrupted by things beyond your control.

Though liberals may not realize this either without an expensive study, the
president of the United States, through his words and actions, sets a moral
example for our children. While parents don't expect to get much help from
Hollywood in this department, they do have a right to count on their Chief
Executive to reinforce the values they are instilling at home.

Bill Clinton can talk until he's blue in the face about teaching children to
be responsible but he will continue to do more harm than good as long as his
actions undermine his empty words. Even without benefit of a federal study,
I'm prepared to tell you that his actions do belie his words.

While his presidential fate was in the hands of his Senate impeachment
jurors, Clinton was issuing an apology a week and meeting incessantly with
his spiritual advisers. His subsequent pronouncements on the subject
demonstrate his lack of contrition.

According to Clinton, he only did one thing wrong and that was merely a
mistake. (Just for the record, having relations with an intern in the Oval
Office, lying about it to the American people and the court, suborning Betty
Currie's perjury, and other miscellaneous obstructions of justice were not
mistakes, but intentional wrongs.)

"I'm not ashamed of the fact that they impeached me. That was their decision,
not mine, and it was wrong. As a matter of law, Constitution, and history, it
was wrong. I'm glad I didn't quit, and I'm glad we fought it. ... I am proud
of what we did here because I think we saved the Constitution of the United
States."

Listen up, America's youth. It was Congress' and Ken Starr's fault that the
president committed these crimes and other despicable acts. It was the
Independent Counsel and Congress that subverted the Constitution for trying
to make the president accountable for engaging in high crimes and
misdemeanors.

The message: No matter what you do, if you deny it and blame your accusers,
you'll get away with it. When possible, always pass the buck. If you repeat a
lie often enough it will be accepted as truth. And, pretend to be sorry as
long it serves your interests, but not a second longer.

The president could do a lot more for our children by accepting
responsibility and accountability for his actions than by holding bogus
conferences that pretend to search in earnest for answers that are right in
front of our faces.



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[CTRL] How Clinton 'saved the Constitution' -- Believe this? I Mars Land For sale!

2000-04-18 Thread Bill Richer

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TUESDAY APRIL 18 2000
•

Joseph Farah is editor of WorldNetDaily.com.

•



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How Clinton 'saved the Constitution'

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I left Washington a day early.
Had I still been there last Thursday, I could have witnessed a historic
speech -- right in the very hotel where I was staying until the day before!

What I missed was President Clinton explaining to hundreds of newspaper
editors from around the country how he "saved the Constitution" by fighting
his impeachment on perjury and intern-shtupping charges.

I'm not kidding.

Read it for yourself.

When asked how the presidential museum in Arkansas might deal with the
impeachment legacy, Clinton boldly pronounced: "We'll have to deal with it,
it's an important part of it (his administration). I am proud of what we did
there because I think we saved the Constitution of the United States."

That's what he said. I don't make 'em up, folks. I'm just the messenger.

And there's more: "But as a political matter, you have no idea -- I'm not
ashamed of the fact that they impeached me," he said. "That was their
decision, not mine. And it was wrong. As a matter of law, the Constitution
and history, it was wrong. And I am glad I didn't quit and I'm glad we fought
it. And the American people stuck with me, and I am profoundly grateful."

Clinton also claimed he's "not interested" in being pardoned for any crimes
he may have committed. This was on the minds of editors following the
Washington Post story last week suggesting Independent Counsel Robert Ray may
indict the president after he leaves office.

But Clinton skillfully evaded the real question. He never said whether he
would accept a pardon. Of course he would. And there's little question Vice
Perpetrator (credit to Rush Limbaugh for this title) Al Gore would grant him
one should he be elected.

"The answer is I have no interest in it. I wouldn't ask for it. I don't think
it would be necessary," the president told the convention of the American
Society of Newspaper Editors. "I am prepared to stand before any bar of
justice I have to stand before."

Clinton was fuming over facing such questions following a speech he hoped
would help establish his political legacy.

"I've paid quite a lot," he said. "I struggled very hard to save my
relationship with my wife and my daughter. ... I made a terrible mistake of
which I am deeply regretful. But I think that the average, ordinary person
reviewing the wreckage left in that would say that I paid for that."

Clinton needn't worry too much, though. Anyone expecting an actual indictment
from the independent counsel's office before or after Clinton leaves office
will be waiting a very long time.

Recall that Ray's predecessor, Kenneth Starr, frequently leaked stories to
the press about imminent indictments of first lady Hillary Clinton and many
other figures close to the president. They never materialized.

Starr was hardly the Torquemada-style inquisitor as Clinton portrayed him. He
was either a Boy Scout way over his head in dealing with a criminal racketeer
in high office or a skilled cover-up artist himself. Take your pick. Ray will
be no better. The word on the street is he's gearing up his own political
career -- as a Democrat.

But, no worries. The Constitution has been preserved. The republic has been
saved. In fact, as time goes by, I think Clinton's story will get even
better.

I have no doubts that once he leaves office we may even hear that he only
committed perjury and those other crimes in a noble, self-sacrificing effort
to create the showdown to save the Constitution. It was necessary. He had to
do it. Not ashamed? You kidding? He's proud.



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[CTRL] Alan Keyes' Testimony at the Vermont Statehouse

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Alan Keyes' Testimony at the Vermont Statehouse

"The family doesn't exist as an institution just in order to gratify those
who are part of it"
Thank you very much. I've enjoyed the chance to meet all of you and have a
chance to chat for a little bit. And I'm thankful for the privilege I've been
extended today of sharing thoughts with folks in the state. And it is a
privilege, because I think that the prerogative of making these judgements,
as I have repeatedly pointed out, does in fact belong to the people of our
individual states. I am here today, in the first instance, wishing to affirm
that fact, because I'm such a strong believer of federalism I wouldn't want
to give anybody the wrong idea. But I do believe that we, in doing the things
that we do, have a responsibility to one another, especially when we know
what the implications will be of the decisions that we face. One reporter
asked me today, how I felt about folks who were saying that this was a
decision only for Vermonters, that it really didn't effect anybody else, and
we all know that that's not true. The decisions that are being taken, not
only here, but in different parts in the country, are decisions that will
fundamentally effect both the moral culture and the fundamental institutions
of our society for good and all. We are making judgements that could
permanently undo not only the basis of our liberty but the basis of our
civilization itself. And I don't think we should take this lightly.

I look over the course of the last, oh what's it going on now, I hate to
think about it, it's going on 30 years, yeah, since I used to have these
debates in college, when a lot of these things were first being unrolled and
were unfolding in our society, back in the 60's. And we had sexual revolution
and we had all kinds of things and people were telling us that this was all
going to be without consequence and it was going to be liberation and
wonderful, and you can look around you and know that that's not true. And
that in point of fact, we unleashed forces that have been devastating to the
social fabric, conduct, the character of our people. And that in various
ways, unless you're in what I believe is the deep moral crisis in which we
find ourselves, a moral crisis that has already reached such a state and
condition that in the last several years we have seen the great threat that
it proposes to the integrity that we need in order to maintain our
institutions of self-government.

So the decisions we take, on a day by day basis, as these issues come up, the
decisions that have been taken in the past ranging from things like Roe vs.
Wade all the way up to whether Vermont or other states are going to adopt
'domestic partnership,' 'civil union,' call it what you will, as a substitute
for our protection of the privileged condition of the heterosexual marriage
based family, all these decisions have implications. And just as the
decisions taken in the 60's and 70's continue to unfold in their consequences
before our eyes, so this one will. I don't think we should underestimate the
damage that will be done, because we are talking about that institution which
is the building block of everything that we know as social reality. And of
course, it has not been the case that all societies everywhere had to be
built on the foundation of a one man, one woman, heterosexual marriage based
family. There have been all kinds of families. But you go back and look
through history and you will not find one other, the polyandry, the polygamy,
and all of these sorts of other things, NONE OF THEM were characteristics of
societies that knew freedom and that sustained liberty. For that you need
strong individuals. You need people who do not derive their sense of worth
from the government, from the state, even by the way, from the society at
large. But instead, people come into that society already confirmed and
established in their sense of their individual worth and dignity, because
they come from the bosom of families in which individuals are respected as
such, as the unique and respected result of a union that exists for their
sake. And that of course, is the basis, I believe God given, for the
heterosexual marriage based family, has been the basis for both the
individuals in a practical sense but also, though I think sometimes we don't
think it through, for the very idea of individuals, on which our society is
based.

And the questions that we're confronted with now, I mean they try to pretend
it's all about these rights for that one and so on, that's not what we're
talking about. We're talking about whether or not government in this society
is going to withdraw, from the heterosexual marriage based family, that
respect in law and other regulations which has been accorded to the family
from time immemorial, not only by this form of government but by every form
of government that has existed in 

[CTRL] Facts Debunk Claims That Blacks, the Poor were drafted and most Killed in Nam

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Facts Debunk Claims That Blacks, the Poor were drafted and most Killed in
Vietnam
Most of KIA Were NOT Poor

These sobering facts do clarify some of the "hysteria statistics" that were
so rampant. Such as, "vast majority of KIA are blacks" and "nearly all KIA
were draftees", "Only poor kids got drafted" etc.

Kevin Nuffernow


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These are results of a new survey from THE VIETNAM VETERANS MEMORIAL FUND
Wash DC. It deals with preconceptions some folks might have about who Vietnam
Veterans really are.

VIETNAM WARRIORS:
A STATISTICAL PROFILE IN UNIFORM AND IN COUNTRY
Vietnam Vets: 9.7% of their generation. 9,087,000 military personnel served
on active duty during the Vietnam era (Aug. 5, 1964-May 7,1975). 8,744,000
GIs were on active duty during the war (Aug. 5, 1964-March 28, 1973).

3,403,100 (including 514,300 offshore) personnel served in the Southeast Asia
Theater (Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, flight crews based in Thailand, and sailors
in adjacent South China Sea waters).

2,594,000 personnel served within the borders of South Vietnam (Jan
1,1965-March 28, 1973).

Another 50,000 served in Vietnam between 1960 and 1964.

Of the 2.6 million, between 1-1.6 million (40-60%) either fought in combat,
provided close support or were at least fairly regularly exposed to enemy
attack.

7,484 women (6.250 or 83.5% were nurses) served in Vietnam.

Peak troop strength in Vietnam: 543,482 (April 30, 1969)

CASUALTIES:

Hostile deaths: 47,378

Non-hostile deaths: 10,800
Total: 58,202 (includes formerly classified as MIA and Mayaquez casualties),
subsequently died of wounds account for the hanging total.


8 nurses died-1 was KIA.

Married men killed: 17,539.

61% of the men killed were 21 or younger.

Highest state death rate: West Virginia- 84.1 (national average 58.9 for
every 100,000 males in 1970)

Wounded: 303,704-153,329 hospitalized + 150,375 injured requiring no hospital
care.

Severely disabled: 75,000-23,214 100% disabled; 5,283 lost limbs; 1,081
sustained multiple amputations.

Amputation or crippling wounds to the lower extremities were 300% higher than
in W.W.II and 70% higher than in Korea.

Multiple amputations occurred at the rate of 18.4% compared to 5.7% in
W.W.II.

Missing in Action: 2,338. POWs: 766 (114 died in captivity).
DRAFTEES VS. VOLUNTEERS:

25% (648,500) of total forces in country were draftees.

(66% of US armed forces members were drafted during W.W.II).

Draftees accounted for 30.4% (17,725) of combat deaths in Vietnam.

Reservists killed: 5,977.

National Guard: 6,140 served, 101 died.

Total draftees (1965-73)1,728,344.

Actually served in Vietnam 38%.

Marine Corps draft: 42,633.

Last draftee: June 30, 1973.
RACE AND ETHNIC BACKGROUND:

88.4% of those who actually served in Vietnam were Caucasian.

10.6% were black.

1% belonged to other races.

86.3% of the men who died in Vietnam were Caucasian (includes Hispanics)

12.5% (7,241) were black

1.2% belonged to other races.

170,000 Hispanics served in Vietnam; 3,070 (5.2% of total) died there.

70% of enlisted men killed were of Northwest European descent.

86.8% of the men who were killed as a result of hostile action were Caucasian

12.1% (5,711) were black

1.1% belonged to other races.

14.6% (1,530) of non-combat deaths were among blacks.

34% of blacks that enlisted, volunteered for the combat arms.

Overall, blacks suffered 12.5% of the deaths in Vietnam at a time when the
percentage of blacks of military age was 13.5% of the total population.
RELIGION OF DEAD:

Protestant-64.4%

Catholic-28.9%

Other/none-6.7%.
SOCIETY-ECONOMIC STATUS:

76% of the men sent to Vietnam were from lower middle and working class
backgrounds.

3/4ths had family incomes above the poverty level; 50% were from middle
income backgrounds. - Some 23% of Vietnam vets had fathers with professional,
managerial or technical occupations.

79% who served had a high school education or better. (63% of Korean War and
only 45% of W.W.II vets had completed high school upon separation).
DEATHS BY REGION PER 100,000 OF POPULATION:

South-31

West-29

Midwest-28.4

Northeast-23.5.
WINNING AND LOSING:

82% of vets who saw heavy combat strongly believe the war was lost because of
lack of political will.

Nearly 75% of the public agrees it was a failure of political will, not arms.
HONORABLE SERVICE:

97% of Vietnam-era veterans were honorably discharged.

91% of actual Vietnam War veterans and 90% of those who saw heavy combat are
proud to have served their country.

66% of Vietnam vets say they would serve again if called upon.

87% of the public now holds Vietnam veterans in high esteem.




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EDITOR'S NOTE: We congratulate our friend Larry P. Arnn on his
appointment as president of Hillsdale College.  In the wake of
indignities suffered under its previous leadership, Mr. Arnn will,
most certainly, restore Hillsdale to its rightful standing as one of
the nation's leading conservative institutions of higher learning.


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THIS WEEK'S FEATURE

Gun Owners of America is "The only no-compromise gun lobby in
Washington," says Ron Paul (R-TX).  This week, the anniversary of the
Columbine High School murders, Clinton and company will grandstand
their gun control agenda. For the facts, visit the link below and
select "1999 Firearms Factsheet."  Every advocate of freedom and
liberty should be armed with these data!

Visit -- http://www.gunowners.org/fstb.htm


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INSIGHT

"What country before ever existed a century and a half without a
rebellion? And what country can preserve its liberties if their rulers
are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit
of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as
to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a
century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to
time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.
" --Thomas Jefferson, 1787


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THE GOOD NEWS

"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against
principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of
this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." (Ephesians
6:12)


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FAITH IN BRIEF

"We are in a cultural war, and at the center of it is a major
offensive against Christianity. Anyone who does not believe this is in
denial. It is in-your-face obvious to those who read the paper, listen
to the radio, watch television, or go to the movies -- and think about
what messages are being delivered. The Constitution no longer protects
us. It has become, in the hands of unaccountable, power-corrupted
judges, an instrument of our oppression." --Linda Bowles


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FAMILY IN BRIEF

"(L)iberals ... are forever kvetching about federal laws that require
the deportation of aliens who actually commit felonies in this
country. Let a criminal wash ashore and the Left sees him as part of
the American dream. But if it's a little boy who lands on our shores
only because -- by all accounts -- his mother simply wished for him to
grow up in freedom, and liberals can't see him deported fast enough.
.. The Left has never thought parents important enough to be informed
if their minor children have abortions, perennially opposing parental
notification laws. Indeed, fathers are so irrelevant under the law
that they have no say over the decision of whether or not their own
children will be aborted. Elian's mother could have aborted Elian
without input from the father, but she can't give him freedom without
the father's consent." --Ann Coulter


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OPINION IN BRIEF

"Ultimately, support for the death penalty must be grounded on the
love of justice and an unqualified respect for the dignity of innocent
human life. ...[I]t is an imperative of the respect for life that we
retain the death penalty as an element of law in certain limited
cases. If we do not, we risk applying a corrosive relativism to our
national respect for life." --Alan Keyes


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POLITICAL FUTURES

"The sure means of restoring and securing our liberties is not having
this or that politician in office but, as the founders said, in
fostering a public sentiment that is implacably and radically opposed
to any attempt by the power elite to take what is not theirs."
--Llewellyn H. Rockwell Jr.


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FOR THE RECORD

Worth repeating on April 20, 2000, one year since two sociopaths left
13 dead in the Columbine massacre

On Thursday, May 27, 1999, Darrell Scott, the father of Rachel Scott,
a murder victim at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colorado, was
invited to address the House Judiciary Committee's subcommittee. What
he said to our national leaders during this special session of
Congress was painfully truthful. It needs to be heard by 

[CTRL] GWB meets the First Amendment

2000-04-18 Thread Linda Minor

http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/00/04/cyber/articles/18bush.html

April 18, 2000


Election Regulators Dismiss Complaint Against Bush Parody Site
By REBECCA FAIRLEY RANEY
Federal regulators have dismissed a complaint filed by the presidential
campaign of Governor George W. Bush of Texas against an Internet critic
whose site, gwbush.com, uses its potentially confusing Web address to serve
up scathing parodies of Bush's official site.


 The Federal Election Commission said on Friday that it had dismissed the
complaint on the grounds that it was too low a priority to warrant the use
of the commission's resources.

By dismissing the case in this way, the agency failed to resolve an issue
raised by the complaint and by the commission's previous opinions on
Internet matters: whether the activities of individuals advocating the
election or defeat of political candidates online are subject to government
regulation, much like political action committees that spend millions of
dollars on mailings and television advertising.

The creator of the site, Zack Exley, said he was pleased with the dismissal
when he learned of it from a reporter Monday. But he said he was concerned
that the FEC had not addressed the larger issue of political activity by
individual voters on the Web.

"If that means that my case is closed, that's good for me," said Exley, who
is a computer consultant in New York. "But the issue is still open, and that
means that the FEC still has to do the right thing in the end."

In the complaint, which was filed nearly a year ago, Benjamin L. Ginsberg, a
lawyer for the Bush campaign, argued that Exley was campaigning and should
comply with relevant election laws. The complaint said Exley should be
required to post a disclaimer identifying the site's origin, to file with
the FEC as a political action committee and to disclose the amount of money
spent on the site.

When asked whether the Bush campaign planned any further action against the
parody site, Scott McClellan, a campaign spokesman, said that the campaign
had not done anything new to address the issue since last May.


"We just hope people will use good judgment and common sense," McClellan
said. "If you look at all the Web sites, you'll see that free speech is
alive and well in America, and Governor Bush has a very thick skin."

FEC officials did not comment, in keeping with a policy of not discussing
compliance cases. In a summary of the case, an investigator for the
commission wrote: "There is no evidence of serious intent to violate the
FECA [Federal Election Campaign Act], and this matter is less significant
relative to other matter pending before the Commission." The file was closed
on Feb. 29, and the dismissal was made public late Friday.

At the time the complaint was filed, the Bush campaign was criticized for
its handling of the matter. Campaign officials contended that they needed to
do something about gwbush.com because the public was confusing it with the
official site at georgewbush.com.

But the publicity surrounding the complaint drove thousands of curious
visitors to the parody site. The site, in various incarnations, has featured
cartoons of the governor with cocaine on his face and letters from Texas
inmates convicted of drug-related crimes.

The site got more attention when the governor responded to a question about
it by telling reporters, "There ought to be limits to freedom."

Internet political experts said that the campaign's approach to the matter
showed that the governor's advisers, who were running a traditional
television-oriented campaign, lacked sophistication in the handling of the
Internet.

The Bush complaint also threw a spotlight on the FEC's handling of Internet
issues. In the past, the FEC has ruled that people like Exley, if they spent
enough money, could be required to register as political action committees.
Such arguments have alarmed civil libertarians, who have warned that the
approach could chill political speech on the Internet.

"Once again, the FEC has left the individual citizen, voter or unaffiliated
activist in legal limbo," said James X. Dempsey, senior staff counsel for
the Center for Democracy and Technology, a nonprofit group in Washington.

"It's very unlikely that the FEC is going to take legal action to impose
fines or registration requirements on the individual Internet user who
creates a Web page criticizing or praising a political candidate," he said.
"But why didn't they just come out and say that?"

Dempsey said that he might interpret the action on the Bush complaint as a
sign that regulators would be unwilling to use their resources to fine
individuals who advocate the election or defeat of a candidate online.

Concerns about the commission's actions against people expressing political
opinions online came to the fore last year. In a controversial opinion
issued in 1998, the commission found that a Web site built by Leo Smith, a
supporter of a Congressional candidate in 

[CTRL] Mandatory School Drug Test Challenged

2000-04-18 Thread Linda Minor

 http://www.nytimes.com/library/national/041700texas-edu.html

April 17, 2000


Family in Texas Challenges Mandatory School Drug Test

By JIM YARDLEY
OCKNEY, Tex. -- For three years, people in this tiny farming town fretted
that stopping the local drug problem was like trying to lasso the winds that
blow day and night off the flat Texas plains. Teachers complained of
students getting stoned at lunch. Parents worried about peer pressure at
school to get high.

Eventually, after an emotional public meeting and demands that something be
done, the school board here enacted what is considered the toughest school
drug testing policy in the nation. It requires that all junior and senior
high school students take a mandatory drug test. There is no choice; refusal
by a parent or student draws the same punishment as failure to pass the
test, an in-school suspension for first offenders.


Now, as many other school districts across the country institute drug tests,
Lockney, with only 2,200 residents, has become an unlikely constitutional
battleground. A parent, aided by the American Civil Liberties Union, filed a
lawsuit in March asserting that the policy violated his and his son's Fourth
Amendment rights prohibiting unreasonable searches. Arguments in the case
could be heard as soon as this summer by a federal judge.

"They cannot tell me how I'm supposed to believe," said the parent, Larry
Tannahill, 35, whose 12-year-old son, Brady, attends the junior high. "I
believe in the Constitution. And because I believe in our Constitution and
our rights, you're going to punish my son? I don't think so."

Since 1995, when the United States Supreme Court opened the door to drug
testing in schools by permitting the testing of athletes, the unanswered
question has been where would schools, and ultimately the court, draw the
line.

Until now, school districts had been tentative in pushing the boundaries,
particularly because legal challenges to wider testing are pending in
Oklahoma, New Jersey and other states. But Lockney's policy of testing every
student has shattered any boundaries.

"If the policy has no teeth, there's no use having it," said Donald G.
Henslee, the lawyer representing the Lockney Independent School District.
Mr. Henslee said at least a dozen other Texas districts had inquired about
instituting a similar policy.

For Mr. Tannahill, the controversy has made clear the tensions that can
arise when an individual challenges the will of the majority, particularly
in a small town. He and his wife, Traci, are the only parents who are
fighting the policy. He was dismissed from his job as a farm worker, though
his former employer says the firing was unrelated to the lawsuit, and he has
found a threatening note outside his home. Some people have invited the
Tannahills to leave town.

Up and down Main Street, people say they do not wish Mr. Tannahill any harm,
but they cannot believe one person should stop them from doing what they
believe is in the best interests of their children. To many parents, the
drug test is a "tool" to provide students a reason to resist peer pressure
to drink or do drugs. The debate over constitutional rights seems secondary
to many people.

"I don't feel like it's violating my rights for my kid to be tested," said
Kelly Prayor, 35, who has two children and is a teller at the local bank.
"As far as my kids' rights, they're not responsible. What rights do they
have? They don't have a right to drink or do drugs."

Lockney, which is between Lubbock and Amarillo, is a tiny spot in the
agricultural sea of the Texas plains, which stretch to the horizon,
interrupted only by telephone poles and windmills and, occasionally, a tree.
The local schools are the biggest employer, and the red logo of the Lockney
Longhorns, the high school, is painted on the two water towers and displayed
in the rear windshields of many of the trucks rumbling through town.

People in Lockney do not believe that drugs are any worse here than in other
small towns, but the issue has generated attention for several years. In
1997, nearly 300 people attended a public meeting to discuss drugs. A year
later, 12 people were charged with selling cocaine, an event that stunned
the town.

By then, school officials were studying drug testing policies, including
those in several surrounding towns. Most of the policies involved testing
students for extracurricular activities. One nearby town with such a policy,
Tulia, is continuing the testing even as it is under challenge in federal
court.

But Lockney officials were intrigued by another town, Sundown, which
instituted a mandatory testing policy for all students in 1998 that has yet
to be challenged. Last December, the Lockney school board approved its own
mandatory policy and notified parents that testing would begin in February.
Under the plan, all junior and senior high students would take a urine test
and submit to random follow-up tests. Employees of the district also undergo
the 

[CTRL] POLICE STATE TARGETS THE LEFT

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POLICE STATE TARGETS THE LEFT

by Jim Redden

Forget about the Militias. The feds are now targeting the Anarchists.

For most of the last decade, the domestic paramilitary forces of the
National Security state have been battling far-right political
dissidents.
Especially since the Oklahoma City bombing, the FBI, the BATF and
numerous
state and local police agencies have targeted the anti-government
Patriot
Movement. Law enforcement agents infiltrated militias, Christian
Identity
churches, anti-abortion groups and suspected terrorist cells.

According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, a well-respected civil
rights
watchdog organization, coordinated law enforcement efforts broke the
back
of the radical right by the end of the century. "Where the FBI typically
worked about 100 domestic terrorism cases at a time in the early 1990s,
it
was investigating close to 1,000 as the millennium came to a close," the
SPLC reported recently. "Hundreds, if not thousands, were sent to jail
as
authorities cracked down on the far right - many in revolutionary
conspiracies that included planned mass murders."

Now the FBI and other law enforcement agencies have apparently shifted
their focus to left-wing political dissidents. The shift began in early
Summer 1999. That was when a coalition of labor, environmental, human
rights and other liberal organizations began planning a series of
massive
demonstrations for the World Trade Organization meeting set for late
November in Seattle.

The protesters shut down the WTO meeting and fought the police in the
streets of Seattle. The size and fury of the demonstrations seemed to
catch
the authorities by surprise. But, as the Seattle Weekly reported on
December 2, law enforcement officials had been spying on the activists
for
months before the demonstrations. According to the Weekly, "Sources say
...
that police and 30 other local, state, and federal agencies have been
aggressively gathering intelligence on violent and nonviolent protest
groups since early summer (FBI agents even paid personal visits to some
activists' homes to inquire about their plans). In past weeks,
undercover
officers have tailed several groups as they moved about the city in cars
and vans, and were doing so after the WTO meetings began."

The Weekly also discovered that members of the Pentagon's top secret
Delta
Force were deployed in Seattle during the demonstrations. This is the
same
unit which was secretly sent to the Waco stand-off. As the paper
reported
in its December 23 issue, the elite troops set up a command headquarters
in
a downtown hotel and operated undercover dressed as protesters. "Some
Deltas wore lapel cameras, continuously transmitting pictures of rioters
and other demonstrators to a master video unit in the motel command
center,
which could be used by law enforcement agencies to identify and track
suspects," the paper reported. "'These guys are the Army hot shots, the
cowboys,' says [a] former Ranger who shared a few beers with the unit in
Seattle."

Hundreds of protesters occupied an abandoned office building in downtown
Seattle during the protests. Numerous press reports quoted police as
saying
the squatters were being monitored by infiltrators.

Four months after the protests, the Seattle Police Department called for
the repeal of a city ordinance prohibiting political spying. The
ordinance,
passed in the wake of the Watergate Scandal, prohibits the police from
gathering any information on anyone solely because of their political or
religious beliefs. "The SPD Criminal Intelligence Section contributed
little hard intelligence because of our inability to investigate any of
the
individuals or groups that ultimately did the most damage," the report
said.

But by then the government had already increased its spying on the
anti-globalization movement which crystallized in Seattle. Many of the
same
groups were planning to protest meetings of the World Bank and
International Monetary Fund in mid-April in Washington DC. Operating
under
the umbrella organization Mobilization for Global Justice, they
scheduled
mass demonstrations for April 16, 17 and 18. But as these activists
began
planning their demonstrations, they were targeted by federal, state and
local law enforcement officials. The activists found their meetings
infiltrated, their public gatherings disrupted, their phones tapped, and
police posted outside their homes and offices.

On April 7, veteran political commentator Sam Smith reported that police
were visiting activists all over Washington DC. Writing in his
Progressive
Review newsletter, Smith said, "While the use of informers and agents
provocateurs by the police, military, and intelligence agencies is not
unknown in the capital, open efforts to intimidate participants prior to
an
event is virtually unknown."

Smith also reported that police were watching student activists at
Washington's America 

[CTRL] Mind Control

2000-04-18 Thread Hairy Whodini

http://morethanconquerors.simplenet.com/MCF/

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[CTRL] SHIT!!! Forum Administrator?

2000-04-18 Thread David Sutherland

Just curious Mr Admin:

I posted and used the term "shithead" and was castigated by the
administators for a "cussing" - should i have simply used the word "shit"
instead?

"Shit" does seem to be shovelled about freely here by other posters - so ...
is there a change in "shit" policy, to which i ought have been advised - or
is there a double standard in place here?

That is, some "shits" are more equal than other "shits" ?

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Re: [CTRL] Mandatory School Drug Test Challenged

2000-04-18 Thread Samantha L.

In a message dated 4/18/00 6:22:30 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 People in Lockney say Mr. Tannahill is not in any danger, though a few
  concede they would not mind if he left. Residents described the drug policy
  as a common-sense solution to help children resist drugs. A few people
  expressed doubts about the policy, but an overwhelming majority of parents
  and students agreed with Jordan Lambert, a senior and the quarterback of
the
  football team.

  "I think it's great," Jordan said. "I don't see how we're being forced to
  when we're more than willing. Ninety-eight percent of the student body is
  more than willing. Nobody is being forced to."


  That's chilling and it's just around the corner for all of us.  They've
just made uniforms mandatory in our public school system.  Welcome to the NWO
where people BEG to be stripped of their individuality and enslaved as
automatons.

Samantha

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[CTRL] Russia: the counter-culture

2000-04-18 Thread DIG alfred webre

www.mailradek.rema.ru

(www.ecoline.ru/POPR)


text # 86
25.03.2000

i came to geneva to participate in an exhibition called "SAPIENS/SAPIENS",
arranged by Igor Sacharow-Ross in the UN office during the UN human rights
comission. I was to make a report on repressions against the leftist
activists in Russia, thus becoming a part of the exhibition.
The day before the opening of the exhibition, on the 20th of March, we have
distributed a press release announcing the exhibition and the report. It
contained brief information on the recent rise of the special police's
activity, which has a certain connection with the elections. There were also
a few words about the Chechen war and explosions in Moscow, which served to
the purpose of lifting Putin's rating and arousing mass hysteria before the
elections.
On the 21st of March, the day of the opening of the exhibition, the Russian
mission officials sent more than five protest notes to the German embassy,
which presented the exhibition, and the German embassador in Switzerland
with his two assistants demanded that we should remove from the exposition
any information concerning actual political situation in Russia, otherwise
the exhibition would be banned. I have recorded the talk with a tape
recorder.
Besides, there was active intervention by subordinates of Vladimir
Petrovsky, the head of the UN office in Geneva. Elena Ponomareva, who is
occupying some position in his office, tore from the wall the photos of
Larisa Shiptsova, biographies of political prisoners Romanov and Biriukov,
the documents of the Moscow Project against political repressions and other
fragments of Sacharow-Ross's collage.
At the opening of the exhibition I tried to speak on the subject of
political repressions,being constantly surrounded by the UN security service
men (a special security department, which is not a subordinate of the Swiss
police). Vladimir Petrovsky and the German ambassador made speeches, in
which they said that Igor Sacharow-Ross "during all his life had been
dreaming of making an exhibition in Palais des Nations before the UN human
rights commission" and that his dream "finally did come true".
On the next day I met the head of Palais des Nations press-service Muhammed
Cherif and arranged my making a press conference on the 23rd of March
concerning political repressions in Russia and censorship in Geneva. When
everything was ready, the UN security service arrested me 10 minutes before
the conference. I was taken to their office, where they took away the badge
which allowed me to enter the Palais des Nations, and then they saw me to
the exit. The security officer (who was dressed in civilian clothes,by the
way) explained that it was done according to Vladimir Petrovsky's personal
order.
Journalists in the UN building have a special right to arrange meetings and
speeches of the people for whom it is forbidden by the Geneva UN office.
That is why Muhammed Cherif finally suggested that I should make a press
conference on the 27th of March. He also promised to supply me with such a
paper which would grant me access to the Palace, and even the Palace
security service wouldn't be able to stop me.
While waiting for the thing to happen, i reflect upon the past and the
future. The thought is quite actual, because the elections in Russia are due
to tomorrow, and, if my conference takes place, it is going to be the first
anti-Putin public event. My reflections are particularly stimulated by ORT
broadcasts, which I can watch in the hotel, and also those of BBC, CNN,
German, French, Swiss and Italian TV channels, where they discuss Putin all
the time.
So far I have only managed to inform two major Swiss papers of the events.
These papers are Tribune de Geneve and Le Temps. Sacharow-Ross published an
article in the German paper Sueddeutsche Zeitung. I have also posted a
couple of messages on the Syndicate, an international Net mailing list. The
most exciting thing happened right after my being thrown out of the palace.
Taken by paranoia, i was afraid of going to the hotel - I thought they could
arrest me there - and used a Swisscom street computer for posting the
messages.
So my first reflections concern the press and TV, since it's Sarurday
evening now and I'm watching Sergei Dorenko's program on ORT. During the 90s
in Russia the leftist culture  managed to gain certain importance because it
had been exploiting the media for its purposes. In 1999 in the course of
several actions (such as "Sex money power" in June and throwing red paint at
the Duma in December) i  found out that they can no longer be used in such
way, because the journalists can now clearly differentiate between
profitable and non-profitable information. The information about the
radicals is neither profitable nor advantageous, and thus the journalists
are not concerned about it. The information of such kind used to be
important within the policy of "public opinion"-oriented democracy. Now it's
the media who create the 

[CTRL] Anti death penalty fast

2000-04-18 Thread DIG alfred webre

Anti-Death Penalty Group Begins Solidarity Fast with Death Row Inmates

Beginning Wednesday, April 12, members of a Gainesville, FL-based group that
advocates for alternatives to the death penalty began a "chain fast" to be in
solidarity with over 100 death row inmates at Union Correctional Institute
who are now in the 10th day of a hunger strike.  Members of Gainesville
Citizens for Alternatives to the Death Penalty (GCADP) decided on the fast at
their April 11th meeting.  Members will fast each day through Friday, April
21st which is traditionally observed by Christians as "Good Friday," the day
Jesus was executed.  The idea of a "chain fast" is that each day a different
member of the group would voluntarily fast, with each member being a "link"
in a long-term fast.

The inmates on death row in Florida began their hunger strike to draw
attention to the Department of Corrections intention to institute a "no
contact" visitation policy.  Current policies allow for "contact visits"
between visitors and inmates.  Inmates assert that it is often these visits,
where fathers can hug their children and spouses can hold hands, that enable
them to continue to exist with some measure of sanity and dignity.  Rev.
Glenn Dickson, pastor of Westminster Presbyterian Church and spiritual
advisor to Anthony Bryan who was executed in February, said, "Anthony told me
that the chance to hug his kids and his sisters was what helped him to keep
his sanity in a place that can really just tear you down."

At the April 11th GCADP meeting, Johnny Zokovitch, a campus minister at St.
Augustine Church and Catholic Student Center, explained that the idea for the
fast came from a visit to death row this past weekend. "The inmates I spoke
with were hoping that this hunger strike would raise people's awareness of
how a 'no contact policy' would affect not only themselves, but their
families and even the correctional officers who work on death row as well.
This fast is an opportunity for us to be supportive of the families of men on
death row as well as the inmates themselves."  Members of GCADP who have
visited death row also understood the value to correctional officers of
keeping the current policy.  "The benefit to correctional officers of keeping
'contact visits' is that the increased morale of inmates that comes out of
these visits makes for a less hostile working environment," Zokovitch stated.

Nine different members of GCADP signed up for the ten-day fast, which ends on
Friday, April 21st.  Those fasting include local clergy and religious,
college students from groups like Amnesty International (University of
Florida chapter) and Pax Christi-Gainesville, a student from Lincoln Middle
School, and other concerned citizens.  A press conference is scheduled for
Friday, April 21st at a time and place still to be determined.

For more information, including contact information for those who are
fasting, please contact Johnny Zokovitch at (352) 372-3533 or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
or Kelli Brew at (352) 372-3533 or [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [CTRL] onlinepetition for Anthony Graves

2000-04-18 Thread DIG alfred webre

In a message dated 00-04-14 18:25:06 EDT, you write:


 dear friends !

 here:
 http://www.e-thepeople.com/petition.cfm?PETID=369479
 you can sign this:
 The state of Texas is killing innocent people. Anthony's Story Imagine
 that you are an average 27 year old, African American man. Returning
 home one day, the police are waiting for you at your house. At the
 police station, you are booked for the murder of a family of six and
 then burning down the house. They tell you that Robert said you did it.
 You have a cousin who married and you met her husband, named Robert. The
 police book you and take you to a holding cell. Three weeks later Robert
 testifies to the Grand Jury that you are innocent. Your name is Anthony
 Graves and you have been incarcerated for seven years and on death row
 for five years in America's execution capital, Texas. Anthony has spent
 this seven years trying to get someone to hear him. He had two court
 appointed attorneys who had never been involved in a capital case and
 his case was never presented properly. The prosecutor ran his alibi
 witness out of the courthouse by saying that he was going to make her a
 suspect. Anthony now has an excellent attorney with thirty years of
 experience. He remains hopeful that each day is a new opportunity for
 justice to prevail, but for this to happen the prosecutor and the courts
 will have to admit that they were wrong. It is like a game of chess and
 Anthony is a pawn in a world of powerful pieces waiting to take him out
 of the game, but this game is his life. When you think that someone else
 can take your freedom, and possibly, your life so easily, it makes you
 wonder what is wrong with the system. Anthony may very well be one of
 many in this same circumstance and unless we are able to reevaluate each
 case individually, we may never know how many innocent people we are
 locking up and murdering. You may contact: Nickie Greer
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit his website @
 http://www.oranous.com/texas/graves/Graves.html

 yours

 sa 

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Re: [CTRL] Virus Alert

2000-04-18 Thread Eagle 1

Virus Warnings are a pet peeve,
especially when the person who passes it on hasn't done his/her homework...

There are several very good Virus Alert / Hoax checking services available
on the internet.  It only takes a minute or two to go to and research the
information you've been sent by someone who inadvertently didn't do their
homework to begin with...
One of these legitimate and hoax researching outlets is :
Data Fellows
http://www.datafellows.com/news/hoax.htm
who have always,  in my opinion,  been up to date and very informative with
regards to real alerts and real hoaxes.  Put their address in your favorite
places and when you feel the 'urge' to pass on another virus alert,  go
their first and research it before you panic.

To research the WOBBLER virus alert  - just go:
 http://www.datafellows.com/hoaxes/wobbhoax.htm

To research WIN A HOLIDAY - just go:
 http://www.datafellows.com/hoaxes/winholid.htm
and
 http://www.datafellows.com/hoaxes/holiday.htm

Again,  it only takes a minute to research information like this before you
pass it on.
Thanks for listening (reading as the case may be).

eagle 1


- Original Message -
From: "Bill Richer" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 6:25 PM
Subject: [CTRL] Virus Alert


   1. There is a new virus - WOBBLER.  It will arrive on e-mail titled
  CALIFORNIA.  IBM and AOL have announced that it is very powerful, more so
 than Melissa, there is no remedy.  It will eat all your information on the
  hard drive and  also destroys Netscape Navigator and Microsoft Internet
  Explorer.   Do not open anything with this title and please pass this
 message on  to all your contacts and anyone who uses your e-mail facility.

Not  many People seem to know about this yet so propagate it as fast
as
  possible.

2. If you receive an e-mail titled "Win A. Holiday"DO NOT open it. It
will
  erase everything on your hard drive.

Forward this letter out to as many people as you can.
This is a new, very malicious virus and not many people know about it.
  This information was announced
yesterday morning from  Microsoft.
Thank You,
Neil Ferrick
Compaq Computer Corporation


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Re: [CTRL] Mark Of The Beast - This is Scary Stuff People

2000-04-18 Thread Eagle 1

What's so scary about a national ID number?
FDR established the national (personal)  ID over 50 years ago with the
SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER...  aka: " SSN "
Republicans had nothing to do with it,  if the writer of the article
finds need to 'blame' someone for the act. Go to the source.

You don't buy or sell now without your SSN...
Try doing your taxes without your SSN.LOL
Try putting a large sum of money in the bank, or withdrawing it...   LOL
You will inform the bank or the government or any other gov institution of
this  SSN,  a national identifying,  personal number if you want to buy or
sell anything... Try going to college or investing in the stock market...
without your SSN.

This includes getting a driver's license,  tho' they may issue you another
number, you still have to give your SSN as the primary resource number.
Try getting a job in this country without your SSN.LOL

We were marked from the cradle to the grave,
with the SSN in this country.
( IF you want to call a national ID number  (NID) * a mark * ... )
It would cost the economy way too much money to establish another number...
Remember,  the U.S. isn't as rich as it was before Viet Nam.

Babies cannot leave the hospital in most states today without the parents
applying for a SSN for the child.  A death certificate cannot be issued
without the person's SSN being submitted.

National ID?  LOL ...
we've already been had if this is the mark of the beast...
and before most of us were born.

Scary stuff?  LOL
The truth about the mark of the beast is much more scary
than any number, (aka: 666), chip, card, mark or tattoo, et al.

eagle 1
http://www.lambsheart.com/fourwinds/mark.html



- Original Message -
From: "Nicola Molloy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 6:32 AM
Subject: [CTRL] Mark Of The Beast - This is Scary Stuff People


 [astro-revelation] This is Scary Stuff People - Mark Of The Beast
 Date:
  Tue, 18 Apr 2000 04:30:16 -0700
From:
  Victoria [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Organization:
  Global Glory

 Someone asked privately about NID

 I have written articles on National ID.
 http://presys.com/~ekklesia/issue9w.htm
 The ekklesia Newsletter issue 9
 The Seal Deal - Neither buy nor sell
 NATIONAL IDENTIFICATION
 The 666 section
 Redemption

 They have been turning drivers license into N ID behind the
 scene with free computers and software to the states.


 This is a long post but it shows you how this stuff comes
 about. All they need is a good national emergency and people
 will line up for new IDs and the system is already present
 to do it through DMVs.

 SCAN THIS NEWS
 July 4, 1999

 THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL ID PLAN

 This article memorializes, for posterity sake, the
 establishment of the national identification system in
 America.

 A lot of people, just now being confronted with the national
 ID laws, are quick to blame President Clinton. He certainly
 is an easy target. But the reality is that the Republicans
 are solely responsible for these programs, as you will see
 below.

 How The Republicans Implemented the Democrats' National ID
 Plan
 An Historical Account

 By Scott McDonald

 http://www.networkusa.org/fingerprint/page1/fp-republican-id-plan.html






- Original Message -
From: "Nicola Molloy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 6:32 AM
Subject: [CTRL] Mark Of The Beast - This is Scary Stuff People


 [astro-revelation] This is Scary Stuff People - Mark Of The Beast
 Date:
  Tue, 18 Apr 2000 04:30:16 -0700
From:
  Victoria [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Organization:
  Global Glory

 Someone asked privately about NID

 I have written articles on National ID.
 http://presys.com/~ekklesia/issue9w.htm
 The ekklesia Newsletter issue 9
 The Seal Deal - Neither buy nor sell
 NATIONAL IDENTIFICATION
 The 666 section
 Redemption

 They have been turning drivers license into N ID behind the
 scene with free computers and software to the states.


 This is a long post but it shows you how this stuff comes
 about. All they need is a good national emergency and people
 will line up for new IDs and the system is already present
 to do it through DMVs.

 SCAN THIS NEWS
 July 4, 1999

 THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL ID PLAN

 This article memorializes, for posterity sake, the
 establishment of the national identification system in
 America.

 A lot of people, just now being confronted with the national
 ID laws, are quick to blame President Clinton. He certainly
 is an easy target. But the reality is that the Republicans
 are solely responsible for these programs, as you will see
 below.

 How The Republicans Implemented the Democrats' National ID
 Plan
 An Historical Account

 By Scott McDonald

 http://www.networkusa.org/fingerprint/page1/fp-republican-id-plan.html

 

[CTRL] Dedication of new Waco Memorial Church

2000-04-18 Thread The Extremist

For Immediate Release: April 13, 2000
(Media Only)Contact: Violet Nichols, Producer, "The Alex Jones Show"
512-443-5856

Everyone Invited Out to the 7th Annual Anniversary
Memorial and Church Commemoration on Mount
Carmel/Waco,TX

Austin/Waco, TX – It has been 7 months since Documentary Filmmaker/Radio Host
Alex Jones put the call out for volunteers to come together to rebuild the
church
on Mount Carmel. Spearheading this historical effort, Jones called on the
people
to "resurrect this structure as a memorial to remind all Americans that we must
always keep a watchful eye on the big government police state activities
that are
growing with frequency in our nation."

With the sad anniversary date of the siege soon upon us, it is a time for our
country to remember the 81 men, women and children who needlessly lost their
lives on Mount Carmel. It is also important to note that Janet Reno, Judge
Walter
Smith, Clinton and others continue to attempt to cover-up their criminal
actions
with regards to the Waco siege of 1993.

The dedication of the new church is scheduled to take place on the seventh
anniversary of the end of the siege of 1993 (April 19, 2000) from 10AM to 2PM.
Confirmed speakers include Ramsey Clark, former US Attorney General, Gordon
Novell, Head of Force One Security and the Chief Investigator for the Branch
Davidians, and Clive Doyle, Branch Davidian Survior. Alex Jones will also speak
and act as the Master of Ceremonies. The dedication of the new church will
include speeches and acknowledgements by Alex Jones, Mike Hanson,
Construciton Coordinator, and George Pulliam, Site engineer. Everyone is
invited
and welcome to attend this anniversary which will be unlike the other six,
because there will be a new church, and because so much hard-core evidence
has come out documenting the fact that the Feds premeditatedly created the
Waco tragedy as a Hollywood production to introduce America to authoritarian
control.

The new church can be viewed on infowars.com by clicking here.

With regards to the church, most of the work is done on Sundays, when the
majority of the volunteer crew travels from Austin to Waco. Americans have
traveled from all corners of the nation, including one self-described "dirt
farmer"
that walked from West Virginia to work for a week on the memorial church.

$92,000 later the church is basically complete, (all donations from private
volunteers) volunteers are now putting in fixtures and wood flooring.
Construction
specialists estimate that had commercial contractors built the building it
would
have cost more than a quarter of a million dollars. Besides monetary donations,
the effort has received various symbolic gifts, such as: a flagpole and
custom-made flag to replace the one taken down by the ATF during the siege,
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[CTRL] Remembering those who died . . .

2000-04-18 Thread Eagle 1




REMEMBER THOSE WHO DIED IN THE OKC 
BOMBING...

April 19th

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Re: [CTRL] SHIT!!! Forum Administrator?

2000-04-18 Thread Nurev Ind Research

David Sutherland wrote:

 Just curious Mr Admin:

 I posted and used the term "shithead" and was castigated by the
 administators for a "cussing" - should i have simply used the word "shit"
 instead?

 "Shit" does seem to be shovelled about freely here by other posters - so ...
 is there a change in "shit" policy, to which i ought have been advised - or
 is there a double standard in place here?

 That is, some "shits" are more equal than other "shits" ?

No shithead they're not. It's all a question of context.

J2

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[CTRL] FW: Allopathy exposed

2000-04-18 Thread Dave

Conventional medicine "exposed" by an M.D. who is also a Homeopath.

Dave Hartley
http://www.asheville-computer.com/dave



-Original Message-
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Subject: Allopathy exposed


Here's a good article by a homeopath to read:

http://www.homeopathyusa.com/doctors_office_enter_at_your_own.htm

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[CTRL] Research and Publication Project

2000-04-18 Thread Linda Minor

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[CTRL] William H. McIlhany

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1) Journal of Individualist Studies
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Errors and misunderstandings of past conspiratorial theorists

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The conspiratorial roots of organized anti-Semitism and racism

The portrayal of conspiracy in contemporary literature and film

The philosophical assumptions of individualism and collectivism

The consequences of the absence of natural law pleading in modern
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The Illuminati's direction of the campaigns for German and Italian
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The Catholic contribution to conspiratorial scholarship, 1798-1940

The relationship between revisionist and conspiratorial theses of history on
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The stifling effect of strict empiricist methodology in the sciences

The continuity of the Illuminati from 1789-1848-1914

The Master Conspiracy behind the American Civil War and Lincoln's
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Identifying and answering enforced academic orthodoxies

Conspiratorial infiltration of orthodox religious institutions

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Select papers of the Illuminati and Carbonari

Documents proving the Illuminati's survival after 1789

Mirabeau's written plan for the subversion of Freemasonry

Distinctions between the authority and activist levels of the Master
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Illuminist links to the KGB

The Master Conspiracy's creation of the historical conflict in Ireland

Growth of conspiratorial power in Mexico

Excerpts from classic works such as Barruel's Memoirs of Jacobinism

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Watergates of the Past: Napoleon and Hitler

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[CTRL] NSA Spies....

2000-04-18 Thread William Shannon

--
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The Wall Street Journal, April 13, 2000

US Security Agency Defends Eavesdrop Use
By Neil King Jr. Staff Reporter of The Wall Street Journal

   WASHINGTON -- Under attack from privacy advocates in the U.S. and Europe,
the director of the National Security Agency said yesterday that his agency
snoops on Americans only under rigid controls and never engages in foreign
economic espionage for U.S. corporations.

   Air Force Lt. Gen. Michael Hayden used an unusual open session of the
House Intelligence Committee to launch another salvo in his year-long effort
to defend an agency seen by many as sinister and all-powerful. European
officials have accused the NSA recently of using its international
eavesdropping prowess, through a system called Echelon, to spy on foreign
companies and sift through every e-mail, fax or telephone call in Europe,
charges the NSA calls absurd.

   The American Civil Liberties Union and other groups have raised similar
concerns about NSA abuses in the U.S., charging that the Echelon system could
be sucking in vast quantities of information about U.S. citizens without
their knowledge. Some members of Congress agree, saying the time is ripe for
new legislation to monitor NSA activities.

   On the European front, Gen. Hayden acknowledged that the super-secret NSA
uses its network of powerful listening stations around the globe to gather
economic intelligence to track concerns such as money laundering, weapons
proliferation and corporate corruption. But he insisted the NSA never pursued
industrial secrets or worked to enhance the profitability of U.S. business.

   George Tenet, director of the Central Intelligence Agency, echoed those
denials.

   "I recognize that it is standard practice for some countries to use their
intelligence services to conduct economic espionage. But that isn't the
policy or the practice of the United States," he said.

   Most of the session, though, focused on concerns that the NSA might be
violating the privacy of U.S. citizens by intercepting e-mail or listening in
on telephone calls. Gen. Hayden scoffed at what he called the growing number
of "urban myths" surrounding the NSA, including its alleged ability to tap
everything from e-mail traffic to domestic baby monitors.

   He cited as an example the fact that the NSA's huge computer system at its
Maryland headquarters went down for about 80 hours in January. The
malfunction prevented the agency from sorting through all the information it
continued to gather from around the world. "Can you imagine the capacity that
would be required for us to store three and a half days of collection if . .
. we're sweeping up everything in the universe?" Gen Hayden said, adding that
it took only eight to 12 hours to process the backlog.

   The laws governing foreign-intelligence surveillance go back to the late
1970s, and some members of Congress argue that new legislation is needed to
encompass changes brought about by the Internet revolution. Both Gen. Hayden
and Mr. Tenet disputed that notion. "There is a rich body of oversight that
ensures that we stay within the law," Gen. Hayden said.

   In the face of generally mild questioning, both men described in detail
the laws that control the use of NSA assets for snooping on anyone within the
U.S. To do that, the agency must prove to a special court that the
eavesdropping is a matter of national security and the target is an agent of
a foreign power, a spy or a terrorist. Such NSA requests, Gen. Hayden said,
occur on average about six times a year.

   Gen. Hayden dismissed as "simply not true" a number of other recent
accusations, including the charge that the U.S. and friendly countries like
Britain or Canada used one another's services to spy on their own citizens.

   NSA intercepts are a key ingredient in U.S. efforts to spy on drug runners
and terrorists, and the agency's eavesdropping proved crucial during the
Kosovo conflict last year as well as during the intense U.S.
counter-terrorist campaign in December.

   (END) DOW JONES NEWS  04-12-00

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Re: [CTRL] Fw: Magic = technology we don't understand

2000-04-18 Thread tenebroust

Thank you Bob!  What a great article, it fits in nicely with my own views of "reality" 
as we "know" it.  It is nice to know that there are some "real" scientists out there 
who hold this view of reality as Maya.  It opens up worlds of possibilities.




On Tue, 18 April 2000, "Robert F. Tatman" wrote:


 The sender of this message included the following comment: "I don't know the
 origin of this essay -- somebody copied it onto another list I'm on, but it
 is an eye opener -- among
 other things it shows underlying ideas behind the magical law of contagion."

 My own reaction was that it validates the observation in *Illuminatus* that
 "reality is a consensus statement."

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 Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 1:26 PM
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  The Universe as a Hologram
 
  Does Objective Reality Exist, or is the Universe a Phantasm?
 
  In 1982 a remarkable event took place. At the University of Paris, a
  research team led by physicist Alain Aspect performed what may turn out to
  be one of the most important experiments of the 20th century. You did not
  hear about it on the evening news. In fact, unless you are in the habit of
  reading scientific journals you probably have never even heard Aspect's
  name, though there are some who believe his discovery may change the face
 of
  science.
 
  Aspect and his team discovered that under certain circumstances subatomic
  particles such as electrons are able to instantaneously communicate with
  each other regardless of the distance separating them. It doesn't matter
  whether they are 10 feet or 10 billion miles apart. Somehow each particle
  always seems to know what the other is doing. The problem with this feat
 is
  that it violates Einstein's long-held tenet that no communication can
 travel
  faster than the speed of light. Since traveling faster than the speed of
  light is tantamount to breaking the time barrier, this daunting prospect
 has
  caused some physicists to try to come up with elaborate ways to explain
 away
  Aspect's findings. But it has inspired others to offer even more radical
  explanations.
 
  University of London physicist David Bohm, for example,believes Aspect's
  findings imply that objective reality does not exist, that despite its
  apparent solidity the universe is at heart a phantasm, a gigantic and
  splendidly detailed hologram. To understand why Bohm makes this startling
  assertion, one must first understand a little about holograms. A hologram
 is
  a three-dimensional photograph made with the aid of a laser.
 
  To make a hologram, the object to be photographed is first bathed in the
  light of a laser beam. Then a second laser beam is bounced off the
 reflected
  light of the first and the resulting interference pattern (the area where
  the two laser beams commingle) is captured on film. When the film is
  developed, it looks like a meaningless swirl of light and dark lines. But
 as
  soon as the developed film is illuminated by another laser beam, a
  three-dimensional image of the original object appears.
 
  The three-dimensionality of such images is not the only remarkable
  characteristic of holograms. If a hologram of a rose is cut in half and
 then
  illuminated by a laser, each half will still be found to contain the
 entire
  image of the rose. Indeed, even if the halves are divided again, each
  snippet of film will always be found to contain a smaller but intact
 version
  of the original image. Unlike normal photographs, every part of a hologram
  contains all the information possessed by the whole.
 
  The "whole in every part" nature of a hologram provides us with an
 entirely
  new way of understanding organization and order. For most of its history,
  Western science has labored under the bias that the best way to understand
 a
  physical phenomenon, whether a frog or an atom, is to dissect it and study
  its respective parts. A hologram teaches us that some things in the
 universe
  may not lend themselves to this approach. If we try to take apart
 something
  constructed holographically, we will not get the pieces of which it is
 made,
  we will only get smaller wholes.
 
  This insight suggested to Bohm another way of understanding Aspect's
  discovery. Bohm believes the reason subatomic particles are able to remain
  in contact with one another regardless of the distance separating them is
  not because they are sending some sort of mysterious signal back and
 forth,
  but because their separateness is an illusion. He argues that at some
 deeper
  level of reality such particles are not individual entities, but are
  actually extensions of the same fundamental something.
 
  To enable people to better visualize what he means, Bohm offers the
  following illustration. Imagine an aquarium containing a fish. Imagine
 also
  that you are unable to see the aquarium directly and your knowledge 

[CTRL] Elian's Getting Same As Monica

2000-04-18 Thread A.C. Szul Jr.

Elian's Getting Same As Monica
4-18-00

Remember back to when Clinton  Co. publicly demonized former intern
extraordinaire Monica into something that she was not?

Remember how they tried to paint a picture of a young woman who was sickly
obsessed with Clinton? Of how she supposedly wouldn't stop calling him?
Followed him, and perhaps, at times, even stalked him?

Why do that? Why paint such a picture? Simple. So that Clinton can then say
how this little girl --in comparison to his old age-- is chasing him and he
has to let her down gently. Thus deflecting any possible accusations of him
pursuing an intern at his taxpayer-funded office, the White House.

Well, the same treatment is being thrown at the Cuban boy, Elian, who
survived a daring escape from that island of tyranny south of Florida.

Have you turned on the news this evening only to hear that a doctor is
questioning little Elian's "state of mind?" It's starting. They failed to
make their case, so they're turning to dirty pool. How many folks even know
that the Doc making these conclusions is a big 'ole FOB?

By spreading word that the boy may be going nutty in that house with his
Miami relatives, the Clintonites are hoping to paint a picture of mental and
emotional abuse of the boy by those same relatives. Make his Dad look like
his savior. Build up his Dad, so that the people will support a forceful
raid by DOJ hacks in the middle of the night.

We did it for the good of the boy, they'll tell us. We did it to reunite a
psychologically-troubled boy with his father, they'll announce. We did it
for a boy that is being brainwashed into thinking that he will be better off
here in the States than in Cuba!

That's what Clinton  Co. have resorted to, since they're losing the public
battle.

After recruiting fellow liberal pinko Dan Blather to interview Elian's
loving Dad on 60 Minutes the other night, the Clintonites believe that they
only way to get this sorry episode over with is to make the boy look
psychologically and emotionally unstable so as to make their point that he
ought to go back to Commie Cuba with his Dad.

In the end, it's not the boy who's gonna look nuts, but the Clintonites who
insist that little Elian will be better off in Cuba, under the watchful eye
of Daddio Castro, rather than remain here in the U.S. where he's guaranteed
a much better and happier life.

--
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http://www.erols.com/mack97
"There is no truth, only fictions woven by power to justify itself." --
Bruce Thornton, "Plagues Of The Mind"

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Re: [CTRL] [LIFE-GAZETTE] Christianity is not worth SHIT (fwd)

2000-04-18 Thread Tara

Did you write this subject line? Whoever did is a pure, unadulterated
asshole. And I don't care what anybody thinks, you're language calls for
mine!

Tara

FWP wrote:
Subject: [LIFE-GAZETTE] "Christianity is not worth SHIT"

And Jesus Christ said so. The whores of babylon from Vatican Inc. to
Graham have proven the truth of His statement: "NOT FIT FOR THE DUNG
HILL" or, in plain English...NOT WORTH SHIT, ie the 'salt and light' who
have LOST IT.

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Re: [CTRL] FW: DR. HULDA CLARK CHARGES DISMISSED! HALLELUJAH!!!

2000-04-18 Thread Tara

I hope she was a whole lot better than the woman practicing medicine without a license 
in Canada, where that isn't illegal by the way, who killed my 34 year old sister.

Tara

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Re: [CTRL] SHIT!!! Forum Administrator?

2000-04-18 Thread Tara

I think it makes a diffence whom you call a shit. If it's an abortionist,
people email Kris and complain, if it's an entire faith like Christianity, I
guess it's okay with everyone on the list but us :(

And gee, I guess if you're J2 you can flame people individually and call
them shithead. I hope not. Let's see what comes of these comments in the
light of recent events on the list.

Tara

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Just curious Mr Admin:

I posted and used the term "shithead" and was castigated by the
administators for a "cussing" - should i have simply used the word "shit"
instead?

"Shit" does seem to be shovelled about freely here by other posters - so ...
is there a change in "shit" policy, to which i ought have been advised - or
is there a double standard in place here?

That is, some "shits" are more equal than other "shits" ?

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Re: [CTRL] Fw: this Magic = SLAVERY!

2000-04-18 Thread David Sutherland

The problem these Gnostics garbed in the skirt of "scientism" have is that
they do not comprehend that their own philosophy of "Maya" is an "Illusion!"

The so-called "Holographic Universe" is merely a regurgitated form of amoral
Hindu Pantheism, which in itself is a fundamentally slavish dogma that
craves the subjugation and dissolution of the individual spirit into the
communist-like universal "oneness".

The Gnostics are, and were, obsessed with phantoms, evil spirits and the
evil demiurge "god".

Much of the New Testament contains harsh polemic against the Gnostics and
their inherent glib view of life and humanity and their paranoid sense of
the Cosmic Grim.

In some sense, from what I read of the US history, at the apex of the JFK
assassination the US as nation embarked on a course toward national
Gnosticism. This Gnostic dialectic was and is compounded by the incessant
paranoia of "Conspiracy Theory" which itself tends toward fatalism and a
sense of powerlessness against the seemingly insurmountable powers of
darkness.

Heretical so-called "christian" Gnostics were historically the first to
surrender liberty, property, and life to the power of the State, since,
inherently they held that the material world and physical body, were evil
and of the evil "god" and only the "spirit" was meaningful.

Many of the more ascetic Gnostics, in droves, threw themselves over cliffs
to their bloody and broken deaths as they sought "freedom" from the flesh
and materialism world.

Cultists in the "Heavens Gate" sect were essentially Gnostic and like their
ancient counterparts, sought their "freedom" from the material world through
communal suicide.

Beware of Gnostics and gurus draped in scientists overcoats!




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Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fw: Magic = technology we don't understand


 Thank you Bob!  What a great article, it fits in nicely with my own views
of "reality" as we "know" it.  It is nice to know that there are some "real"
scientists out there who hold this view of reality as Maya.  It opens up
worlds of possibilities.




 On Tue, 18 April 2000, "Robert F. Tatman" wrote:

 
  The sender of this message included the following comment: "I don't know
the
  origin of this essay -- somebody copied it onto another list I'm on, but
it
  is an eye opener -- among
  other things it shows underlying ideas behind the magical law of
contagion."
 
  My own reaction was that it validates the observation in *Illuminatus*
that
  "reality is a consensus statement."
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Ambrose Hawk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: snipped
  Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 1:26 PM
  Subject: Magic = technology we don't understand
 
 
   The Universe as a Hologram
  
   Does Objective Reality Exist, or is the Universe a Phantasm?
  
   In 1982 a remarkable event took place. At the University of Paris, a
   research team led by physicist Alain Aspect performed what may turn
out to
   be one of the most important experiments of the 20th century. You did
not
   hear about it on the evening news. In fact, unless you are in the
habit of
   reading scientific journals you probably have never even heard
Aspect's
   name, though there are some who believe his discovery may change the
face
  of
   science.
  
   Aspect and his team discovered that under certain circumstances
subatomic
   particles such as electrons are able to instantaneously communicate
with
   each other regardless of the distance separating them. It doesn't
matter
   whether they are 10 feet or 10 billion miles apart. Somehow each
particle
   always seems to know what the other is doing. The problem with this
feat
  is
   that it violates Einstein's long-held tenet that no communication can
  travel
   faster than the speed of light. Since traveling faster than the speed
of
   light is tantamount to breaking the time barrier, this daunting
prospect
  has
   caused some physicists to try to come up with elaborate ways to
explain
  away
   Aspect's findings. But it has inspired others to offer even more
radical
   explanations.
  
   University of London physicist David Bohm, for example,believes
Aspect's
   findings imply that objective reality does not exist, that despite its
   apparent solidity the universe is at heart a phantasm, a gigantic and
   splendidly detailed hologram. To understand why Bohm makes this
startling
   assertion, one must first understand a little about holograms. A
hologram
  is
   a three-dimensional photograph made with the aid of a laser.
  
   To make a hologram, the object to be photographed is first bathed in
the
   light of a laser beam. Then a second laser beam is bounced off the
  reflected
   light of the first and the resulting interference pattern (the area
where
   the two laser beams commingle) is captured on film. When the film is
   developed, it looks like a meaningless swirl of light and dark 

Re: [CTRL] [LIFE-GAZETTE] Christianity is not worth SHIT (fwd)

2000-04-18 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, Nurev Ind Research wrote:

 HOLY SHIT POLEY !!! WHO THE HELL INVITED YOU TO BE AN ELDER OF ZION?

 My Great Uncle Hymie ( for whom NYC is named after, ) is head of the
 Learned Elders of Zion, and went ape shit upon hearing of your conversion.
 He delicately queried " Does that no good Khazar bastard retard think he
 can just decide to become a LEZ?" " May all his teeth fall out but one, and
 that one should always ache!"

 So forget it Poley. You don't have the right stuff.

 Joshua2
 For Uncle Hymie.

Now how does this Uncle Hymie compare to my great great great grandpa
Shlomo Poley who WROTE the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion,
founded Kazar U. and invented the bagel?
FWP.

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Re: [CTRL] [LIFE-GAZETTE] Christianity is not worth SHIT (fwd)

2000-04-18 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, Tara wrote:

 Did you write this subject line? Whoever did is a pure, unadulterated
 asshole.

Now you are learning. My De Sola Poole Traditional Jewish Prayer Book
says Torah means "teaching".

Next fill in the blanks.

 is "not fit for the dung hill". (Red
Letters).

Also "The flock is small"; and "Straight is the gate and narrow is the way
and few there be that find it."

So how do you reconcile that with the huge numbers of "Christians"? Could
it be that when the leadership and membership in general are "not fit for
the dung hill", it is fair to say that "Christianity is not fit for the
dung hill"? In plain English...NOT WORTH SHIT.

So you want a conspiracy...big time? There it
is: churchianity/"pro-life" and all.

FWP.
(Learned Elder of Zion)

PS-Check the Vancouver phone book. There is a Protestant Zionist Church
listed.

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Re: [CTRL] [LIFE-GAZETTE] SHIT!!! Forum Administrator? (fwd)

2000-04-18 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

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Subject: Re: [LIFE-GAZETTE] SHIT!!! Forum Administrator?

On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, David Sutherland wrote:

 Just curious Mr Admin:

 I posted and used the term "shithead" and was castigated by the
 administators for a "cussing"

Not by me. This is a Free Speech Zone. And the frustration of dealing with
a bunch of religiocratic "shits" or "shitheads" (you choose) is enough to
drive anybody to use such words. But hopefully we will get some reasonable
discourse going with the religionists before Life-Gazette turns into the
cyber version of Jerry Springer.
   Look, the "Greatest Story Ever Told" is very natural and when it is
supernatural it is not the "wierd shit" you get from the religiocrats.
They twist and pervert the Bible. I was almost moved to tears last year
when I watched an interview with a distinguished Canadian lawyer who
worked on the "Christian Brothers" (Mount Cashell) case. This man was
smart, well-educated, well-spoken and a seasoned middle-aged
professional. A real gentleman. After hearing what they had done to those
children he went into a deep depression and couldn't work again for five
years. I read in the Humanist Newsletter a few years back that a
patient/client is twice as likely to be sexually molested by a so-called
"Christian" councillor than a nonreligious councillor. Now, I'm not a
Humanist but let's just recognize the truth where we find it. I think they
probably had the stats on their side. Often when I spend some time with
the "wierd shitters" of churchianity I feel like I need to take a
bath. Church is not the place to go for spiritual uplifting unless you
can avoid the human element.
   So I think it is better to vent this stuff than to go into a depression
as long as we all stay this side of legality. I won't even tell you what
I'd like to do with that food truck with the big white cross on the side
which drives up in front of the courthouse in the "poorest ghetto in
Canada" as it is called. But I won't do it whatever it is. Lorna Dueck
featured them on "Listenup" recently along with the other religion
racketeers who exploit the poor in the ghetto for their vanity and profit.
She called them "Angels" of something or other. What? Hell's Angels?
The Hell's Angels Bikers I have met over the years impressed me as more
decent people than "Lorna's Angels". What did Jesus say? "Take heed that
ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them" That is 100%
clear. And it makes intuitive sense to those whose minds and hearts still
work. The "missions" in the ghetto from Slavation Army to Roman Catholic
line up the poor on the street to be served a meal. What restaurants which
cater to a poorer clientelle do this? None. When the tv crew goes by these
people shuffle their feet and look down. My Jesus Christ doesn't compel
unfortunate people to lick His boots and suffer humiliation for the crumbs
from the table of pseudo-charity. So we are talking about very different
Saviours here.
   Angels indeed. They can't even see reality. The religion racketeers who
commute into the ghetto drive through traffic congestion and dangerous
streets administered by the professedly "Christian" mayor of Vancouver,
Philip Owen. A pox on him and his kind. They mumble "Thou shalt not
kill" while the streets and pollution kill more people than the wars
Canada has fought in. And it is preventable but not while they are
immersed in greed like pigs in swill. If people were "decanted" to safe,
clean cities the real estate racketeers wouldn't like that. And that is
why they have persecuted Life-Gazette since its inception in 1988. That
plus a few more of the Seven Deadly Sins which is their real code, not the
Ten Commandments. DOGS. PIGS, SNAKES. These are all Red Letter words.
And if you call them shit you are elevating these "Christian" vermin above
the stature Jesus Christ gave them. Since He spoke in the vernacular of
today the fair translation of "not fit for the dung hill" is NOT WORTH
SHIT. These are the Angels of Hell (not to be confused with honourable
bikers) and they are headed right to their eternal home. But meanwhile we
have to try to prevent the damage they cause. And that is the purpose of
the litigation which I post on occasion to Life-Gazette. The BC Human
Rights Commission and Ombudsman's Office are just starters. I am going to
put these vermin, these scum of the earth, out of business.
FWP.



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Re: [CTRL] SHIT!!! Forum Administrator?

2000-04-18 Thread David Sutherland

OH!

I did actually overlook that J2 quip.

I originally thought it was J2's inability to mentally punctuate rather than
his ample ability to be verbally flatulent?

I must re-read "animal farm" again - its seems I've missed the part about
what is exactly is acceptable etiquette in the dominatrix pig pen?


- Original Message -
From: "Tara" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] SHIT!!! Forum Administrator?


 I think it makes a diffence whom you call a shit. If it's an abortionist,
 people email Kris and complain, if it's an entire faith like Christianity,
I
 guess it's okay with everyone on the list but us :(

 And gee, I guess if you're J2 you can flame people individually and call
 them shithead. I hope not. Let's see what comes of these comments in the
 light of recent events on the list.

 Tara

 -Original Message-
 From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
 Behalf Of David Sutherland
 Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 8:31 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [CTRL] SHIT!!! Forum Administrator?


 Just curious Mr Admin:

 I posted and used the term "shithead" and was castigated by the
 administators for a "cussing" - should i have simply used the word "shit"
 instead?

 "Shit" does seem to be shovelled about freely here by other posters - so
...
 is there a change in "shit" policy, to which i ought have been advised -
or
 is there a double standard in place here?

 That is, some "shits" are more equal than other "shits" ?

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[CTRL] Dominatrix Pig Pen? Oi Veh!

2000-04-18 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, David Sutherland wrote:

 what is exactly is acceptable etiquette in the dominatrix pig pen?

Cool!
FWP

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Re: [CTRL] [TheEagle-L] [Fwd: [TheRevelation] Fw: Fw: Stop Thief!]]

2000-04-18 Thread Bard

Some people are locked in to subsidies/welfare benefits, so they continue to support 
their benefactors;  too bad, this is what makes it so
difficult to swing those so dependent to a constitutionalist view of government.

Bard
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"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the 
animating contest for freedom, go home from us in
peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that 
feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our
countrymen" -- Samuel Adams

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In a message dated 4/18/00 7:57:28 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Bard -

  You ar entitled to your opimion, however wrong it may be.

  Arnie

  Bard wrote:

   --
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   There's not a dime bit of difference between a DemoRat and a RepubRat,
   they're simply two wings of the same bird of prey. 

 TDOG AND I SECOND THAT OPINION BARD. "TWO WINGS OF THE SAME BIRD OF PREY"
 IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE. AND I FEEL NOTHING BUT SORROW FOR THOSE THAT HAVE
 NOT FIGURED IT OUT. IF SOME HAVE NOT FIGURED THAT OUT, WHAT ELSE ARE THEY
 MISSING?

 
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Re: [CTRL] Fw: this Magic = SLAVERY!

2000-04-18 Thread WK

It's actually quite a bit more than a "...regurgitated form of amoral
Hindu pantheism..."  It's a mathematically quantifiable and testable
hypothesis.

David Sutherland wrote:

[snipped]

 The so-called "Holographic Universe" is merely a regurgitated form of amoral
 Hindu Pantheism, which in itself is a fundamentally slavish dogma that
 craves the subjugation and dissolution of the individual spirit into the
 communist-like universal "oneness".

[snipped]


 - Original Message -
 From: "tenebroust" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 1:28 PM
 Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fw: Magic = technology we don't understand

  Thank you Bob!  What a great article, it fits in nicely with my own views
 of "reality" as we "know" it.  It is nice to know that there are some "real"
 scientists out there who hold this view of reality as Maya.  It opens up
 worlds of possibilities.
 
 
 
 
  On Tue, 18 April 2000, "Robert F. Tatman" wrote:
 
  
   The sender of this message included the following comment: "I don't know
 the
   origin of this essay -- somebody copied it onto another list I'm on, but
 it
   is an eye opener -- among
   other things it shows underlying ideas behind the magical law of
 contagion."
  
   My own reaction was that it validates the observation in *Illuminatus*
 that
   "reality is a consensus statement."
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Ambrose Hawk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: snipped
   Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 1:26 PM
   Subject: Magic = technology we don't understand
  
  
The Universe as a Hologram
   
Does Objective Reality Exist, or is the Universe a Phantasm?
   
In 1982 a remarkable event took place. At the University of Paris, a
research team led by physicist Alain Aspect performed what may turn
 out to
be one of the most important experiments of the 20th century. You did
 not
hear about it on the evening news. In fact, unless you are in the
 habit of
reading scientific journals you probably have never even heard
 Aspect's
name, though there are some who believe his discovery may change the
 face
   of
science.
   
Aspect and his team discovered that under certain circumstances
 subatomic
particles such as electrons are able to instantaneously communicate
 with
each other regardless of the distance separating them. It doesn't
 matter
whether they are 10 feet or 10 billion miles apart. Somehow each
 particle
always seems to know what the other is doing. The problem with this
 feat
   is
that it violates Einstein's long-held tenet that no communication can
   travel
faster than the speed of light. Since traveling faster than the speed
 of
light is tantamount to breaking the time barrier, this daunting
 prospect
   has
caused some physicists to try to come up with elaborate ways to
 explain
   away
Aspect's findings. But it has inspired others to offer even more
 radical
explanations.
   
University of London physicist David Bohm, for example,believes
 Aspect's
findings imply that objective reality does not exist, that despite its
apparent solidity the universe is at heart a phantasm, a gigantic and
splendidly detailed hologram. To understand why Bohm makes this
 startling
assertion, one must first understand a little about holograms. A
 hologram
   is
a three-dimensional photograph made with the aid of a laser.
   
To make a hologram, the object to be photographed is first bathed in
 the
light of a laser beam. Then a second laser beam is bounced off the
   reflected
light of the first and the resulting interference pattern (the area
 where
the two laser beams commingle) is captured on film. When the film is
developed, it looks like a meaningless swirl of light and dark lines.
 But
   as
soon as the developed film is illuminated by another laser beam, a
three-dimensional image of the original object appears.
   
The three-dimensionality of such images is not the only remarkable
characteristic of holograms. If a hologram of a rose is cut in half
 and
   then
illuminated by a laser, each half will still be found to contain the
   entire
image of the rose. Indeed, even if the halves are divided again, each
snippet of film will always be found to contain a smaller but intact
   version
of the original image. Unlike normal photographs, every part of a
 hologram
contains all the information possessed by the whole.
   
The "whole in every part" nature of a hologram provides us with an
   entirely
new way of understanding organization and order. For most of its
 history,
Western science has labored under the bias that the best way to
 understand
   a
physical phenomenon, whether a frog or an atom, is to dissect it and
 study
its respective parts. A hologram teaches us that some things in the
   universe
may not lend themselves to this approach. If we try to take apart
 

[CTRL] Candy-coated Fascism: Catch the Wave!

2000-04-18 Thread The Extremist

Candy-coated Fascism:
http://www.waveamerica.com/
Training your children to be good little automatons in the coming American
Police State.

A pilot program started in North Carolina, Coming to a state near you!
Facts about the WAVE Program:
Fact:
WAVE teaches your children to become little snitches.
WAVE teaches your children to turn in their parents that are not
politically correct.
WAVE creates fear between the children and amongst children that hold views
contrary to the programs leftist agenda.
WAVE is implemented by Pinkerton Security Services, a company owned by
foreigners.
WAVE is a government/corporate endeavor fashioned after the fascist model.
The WAVE program itself is modeled after pre-world war II Hitler Youth Groups.

Read this for some shocking insights:
http://www.krref.krefeld.schulen.net/referate/englisch/r0416t00.htm

If you don't want this fostered on your children in YOUR state, now is the
time to act.
Sign the Petition and Call NC Governor Hunt and the other numbers below and
let them know what you think.

Anti-WAVE Petition:
http://www.i-charity.net/sw.cgi/ptn/15/thref/405
Support Project Billboard:
http://community-2.webtv.net/revdavek/PROJECTBILLBOARD/

Tamera Park is the public relations contact for Pinkerton and the
  program, you can send her email or use the 800 number for her. Ms.
  Park's email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The toll free number to reach her is: 1-800-527-1428

Governor Jim Hunt can be contacted at the following:
  919-733-4240
  919-733-5811
  1-800-662-7952

Governor James Hunt jr.
Office of the Governor
20301 mail service center
Raleigh, NC 27699-0301

Dave Komenas' Anti-WAVE web site:
http://community-2.webtv.net/revdavek/STOPTHEWAVEPROGRAM/
(Check out the articles on WAVE by WorldNet Daily)
STOP the WAVE!
-
A couple quotes with the WAVE mentality:
"Every child in America entering school at the age of five is mentally
ill because he comes to school with certain allegiances to our
founding fathers, toward our elected officials, toward his parents,
toward a belief in a supernatural being, and toward the sovereignty of
this nation as a separate entity.  It's up to you as teachers to make
all these sick children well -- by creating the international child of
the future."
-Chester M. Pierce, Harvard psychiatrist, speaking as an expert in
public education, During the 1973 International Education Seminar.

"Fundamental, Bible-believing people do not have the right to
indoctrinate their children in their religious beliefs because we, the
state, are preparing them for the year 2000 when America will be part
of a one-world global society, and their children will not fit in."
- Nebraska State Senator Peter Hoagland 1982
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Online Patriot Internet Radio: http://www.geocities.com/aresister_2000/
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[CTRL] Clinton Jokes About E-Mail Probe (fwd)

2000-04-18 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

Clinton Jokes About E-Mail Probe

PALO ALTO, Calif. (AP) -- President Clinton made a joke at his
own expense Monday when a 9-year-old boy asked him how he uses
the Internet.

Clinton replied that he has shopped online but doesn't use
electronic mail.

''If I want to talk to my daughter, I pick up the phone,''
Clinton told the crowd at an event where he announced new grants
to improve telecommunications services in poor and minority
communities.

Then, with a rueful laugh, Clinton made a remark that brought to
mind the Justice Department's investigation into thousands of
incoming White House e-mail messages on campaign fund raising and
other matters.

''If you work for the government, you don't use e-mail very much
unless you want it all in the newspapers,'' Clinton said.

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[CTRL] U.S. Customs Body Scans (fwd)

2000-04-18 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

[Personally I would not volunteer for the radiographic
intrusuion.  --MS]

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE THURSDAY, JANUARY 27TH, 2000
BODY IMAGING SYSTEMS

What is the body imaging system?

The body imaging system uses reflected x-ray energy to produce
images of objects concealed under a person’s clothing. The system
projects a very narrow beam of x-ray energy that is passed over a
person’s body. The beam does not remain stationary on any part of
the body. As a result, the system is often called a “body scan.”

What does the scan show?

Due to the low dosage of x-ray radiation, the x-rays penetrate
only a few millimeters below the skin. They do not completely
penetrate the body. The images displayed show only those features
near the body surface. This allows detection of objects that may
be concealed under clothing. The body’s internal anatomy is not
shown in the image. The only exceptions are near the skin
surface, such as in the lower legs, where bones’ forward surfaces
can be seen in the image.

Does the device allow inspectors to zoom in on specific areas of
the body?

The device contains a feature that only allows inspectors to
highlight an object hidden under clothing to determine if it is
contraband.

Does Customs keep an image?

Customs only keeps an image if the body scan detects illegal
contraband, since the image may be needed for potential
prosecution.

Do all international air passengers get scanned?

No. During the course of their normal duties, Customs inspectors
may select an arriving international passenger for questioning
and/or a baggage examination. Customs inspectors do not use race,
gender, religion or ethnic background to select passengers. If,
during the examination, the Customs inspector develops good
reason to suspect that a passenger is carrying contraband on the
body, the passenger is offered the choice of undergoing a patdown
or a body scan. The body scan is offered as a less intrusive
alternative to the patdown, since the passenger is not physically
touched during the body scan process. The vast majority of
arriving international passengers do not undergo either a patdown
or a body scan by Customs. On average, only one out of every
2,000 international passengers will reach this level of search.

What other controls govern the use of the body scan?

Customs inspectors are barred from administering a body scan on
any passenger without the written consent of that passenger. The
passenger must sign a consent form before a body scan.
Furthermore, each use of the body scan requires approval from a
Customs supervisor. In addition, the operator of the body scan
system must be of the same sex as the passenger being examined.
Body scans are only operated in private areas or closed rooms,
out of the view of the general public. The system operator is the
only individual who has a view of the screen.

Were these systems introduced in response to the recent arrests
of suspected terrorists on the U.S./Canadian border?

No. Customs began deploying these systems at designated airports
in early 1999 to combat drug smuggling.

Where are the systems being used by U.S. Customs?

Systems are currently in place at JFK Airport, Miami
International Airport, Chicago O’Hare Airport, Atlanta Hartsfield
Airport, Houston Intercontinental Airport, and Los Angeles
International Airport. By March 2000, systems are scheduled to be
placed at Dulles International and Newark International Airports.

Why has Customs kept the deployment of these systems secret until
now?

Customs has not kept these systems secret. In fact, Customs has
held numerous press conferences over the past year highlighting
the deployment of body scans at airports in Chicago, Los Angeles,
New York, and other locations.

Are pregnant women subjected to body scans?

As noted above, a body scan is completely voluntary. Scientific
studies and reports by independent labs confirm that the system
is safe for use on all persons, including pregnant women.
However, by policy , Customs does not allow a body scan to be
administered to a woman who knows, believes, or is unsure if she
is pregnant.

What is the dose of radiation?

Each scan of the body exposes the person being examined to a 3-5
microRem dose of x-ray radiation.

What does that mean?

Every person is continually exposed to radiation from naturally
occurring radioactive materials in the air and soil. This is
considered “background” radiation and ranges between 10 and 20
microRem per hour. Cosmic radiation from space also provides
radiation that increases with elevation. Commercial airline
passengers are typically exposed to 500 microRem per hour during
a flight at 35,000 feet above sea level. The radiation exposure
from the body imaging system is small compared to the radiation
exposure from naturally occurring background radiation.

Can the systems leak radiation? How will someone know if that is
occurring?

The systems, by Federal regulation, must contain interlocks and
safety systems. Testing