Re: [CTRL] Microsoft Happy in Seattle, [+ a Bard commentary]
Aleisha (is that a male or female name?) The 'sell out' has been going on quite some time now; accelerating under NAFTA. The internationals are not only greedy for low wages, they also suck the teats of the taxpayers in the form of Corporate Welfare/Subsidies, etc. I dislike sounding repetitious, but there is only ONE solution, to wit: the busting of the DemoRat/Repub/Rat stranglehold on ballot access. This is extremely difficult because the Judicial system is also filled with the same bird of prey. IF the problem cannot be solved through the Courts, then I foresee an armed rebellion, however, if the thugs succeed in disarming us we have lost our last remaining option, resulting in Slavery and all the ramifications in our Society that represents. Keep your eye on the litigation re. the inclusion of a viable third party candidate in the Presidential Debates. It's not a pretty picture. There is the possibility that the World financial system will collapse (credit spiral) and then the Voters will throw the thugs out completely. However, if this were to occur I foresee a state of martial law where the government will use the military to maintain order. Since the military is so de-moralized (thanks to the rapist) there exists, I believe, the remote possibility that the thugs could not muster the loyalty of the military to suppress a rebellion. The key to all this, of course, is the access the public will have to weapons. If we are totally disarmed before a financial collapse occurs, they I would expect domestic terrorism. It's very possible that a world war would ensue (instigated by the Fed), brought on by the financial collapse, whereby we would have to re-establish our manufacturing base, and to appease the populace the federal government would have to subsidize our wages with deficit financing; inflation is the real problem here. The respect we once had for our federal government has dissipated over the last two-thirds of the 20th Century to the point where the people have lived their daily lives denying to themselves the ravages and deprivation of our Freedom manifested by a feeling of helplessness to better their lives. The present individual tax rates are way too high; the RepubRats should have reversed the rapist's horrific tax increase of 1993. But, as we now know, they are just as bad as the DemoRats, and have been in the forefront of globalizing our economy. While the Insiders have touted that the Information Technology (IT) industry will provide jobs, the problem is that the corrupt socialist dominated school unions have done such a good job in dumbing down our young they can't qualify for these jobs and the ITs are importing foreign labor supposedly skilled in IT paying them sub-standard wages and plenty of overtime. It's the young who have the most to lose from realizing the American Dream. Both GeeW and algore are nothing more than mouthpieces for the Insiders; taking their orders from the international banking cartel. In my view, had the millions not been legally murdered using Roe vs. Wade the jobless number would be much greater than it is today and there would have been severe pressure from the People to right the wrongs done to us by the Thugs. The jobless number is distorted by virtue of so many slave wage jobs and the yardstick to measure 'productivity' in our existing manufacturing is no longer applicable to use. Would appreciate your Comment, particularly with regard to events I foresee happening. These are observations made by a person raised in the thirties and my Parents had to endure the Great Depression, which, if you don't know, was brought on by the Fed stabilizing the British pound with a huge influx of dollars/gold to Great Britain leaving the average American with no dollars (fiat-currency) to survive; and you know, I'm sure, what the Fed is: the International banking cartel. The RepubRats in power at the time made a serious mistake in kow-towing to the incompetent leadership of the Fed in place at that time. The result of all this will be the USA becoming a third-rate power. We are on the verge of a major restructuring of our social and economic institutions, and its implementation must be led by the leadership of constitutional conservatives. Bard Tell me not, in mournful numbers, Life is but an empty dream! For the soul is dead that slumbers, And things are not what they seem. -- Henry Wadsworth Longfellow Folks, We have been in a deep Slumber way too long now! "WE WANT THIS COUNTRY BACK"..http://www.klang.com/wewantcont.html No more Lawyers..http://www.jail4judges.org/ No more illegals..http://www.webspawner.com/users/IllegalImmigration/ No more payroll tax withholdings..http://www.house.gov/dunn/fastfacts/tax98.htm No more same-sex 'marriages'.http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/2525/ts/pope_gays_1.html No more homo sex education.. http://www.massnews.com/maygsa.htm Kids Get Graphic Instruction In Homosexual Sex No more
Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:
-Original Message- From: tenebroust [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Since there is no real evidence for it, we must just look at it all as speculation by "army officer X", or some "covert warrior" who now wants to come clean, etc. Well tenebroust, I guess the reason Commander X, Branton etc use non de plumes is because are in danger of their lives. I think anybody who just comes right out like fool with their name, rank and serial number and starts spouting off about the alien treaties the US govt has made with ets, really wouldn't have that much to say. They were intelligence officers and we don't really need to know their personal details. Other intelligence officers can know if they are speaking the truth or not and then it spreads from there.The information they present us with is generally self evident, because of a consistancy that others keep verifying, that they do have experience in inside covert operations. There are photos and documents in these books. Who are you? Why do you use a silly name? We don't know what country you are from, which gender, or how old you are, yet you want respect and to be listened to merely because your typed letters appear in our inboxes. Tell me why you personally don't give us your full name, address, ICQ number, CV, recent photo, race and blood type and birthdate. I'd like to know that before I even consider your comments on my post. You are looking for proof of someone's rank and their name before you believe them. Yet you are doing the same thing by hiding under a false name. Please - you don't even sign your posts!! So you want me to tell you, an indeterminate stranger going on public archives how I came by my info like a complete blabbermouth I'd have to be tortured to reveal it sorry. Please by all means keep us posted with the latest speculation in these areas, but let it reamin speculation and not the recitation of fact. OK but let me say you did get warned, but took too long looking for verifiable factual evidence to your satisfaction. Nicky On Sat, 03 June 2000, Nicky Molloy wrote: Well Tenebroust, I think we can safely say that American abductions could sometimes be the military because they sometimes pretend they are aliens by using virtual reality scenarios. But the American govt did build about 50 bases for the greys which was done by Rand Corp. I'll find the info. English people seldom get abducted by greys according to a UK UFO mag. Abductees in US have gone underground to both grey and military bases.. According to Branton, there are even more greys under Los Alamos than even under Dulce, a major nesting area going back to native American times. He has heard of an area near Los Alamos where the Feds bring huge shipments of cattle for picking up by grey ships on an almost daily basis. It is a forrested area southwest of Los Alamos where pictograms of 'aliens' exist. So the aliens have been in that area long before the atom-jacks came in. Also setting off nuclear blasts burns away the membrane between this dimension and the next which would allow any interdimensional entities easy access to our dimension. There is apparently more Ets seen in Nevada than some other places possibly due to the nuclear bombs. Other people in other countries have been abducted and people have seen them rising bodily into the air and going into space ships.In South America there are many stories of this. In Mexico there is a video of about 60 UFOs appearing in the sky at once when there was big crowd. Many hundreds saw them and videotaped them. Others in US have seen their partner sliding out of the window from their bed and rising into the air out into the sky. There was story about the UN Sec, prev to this one in his car watching a woman float out of her highrise apartment in NY and into a spaceship. This story is well known. A couple of Govt agents got in touch with the woman and she told them, where she went as she remembered. Nicky A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A
Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:
C'mon NICK you can't be SERIOUS about all this ET UFO B.S. - these guys are tools - mostly book and video salesman!!! "Conspiracy Theory" and all its associated trappings (UFO's, ETs, Abductions, etc) is now as much a political TOOL as everything else is. I mean, if many of these ex-secret intel or otherwise UFO 'exposers' and supposed 'researchers' were what they claim to be - would it be THAT difficult to "slience" these clowns if the so-called near omnipotent "black" government, or whatever agency is supposed to 'hush' all this nonsense up, is really extant? Its pure religio-political propoganda, religio - because in many cases you will find all sorts of esoteric mumbo jumbo and 'spiritual' twadde and hysteria associated with many of these beliefs if ETs, Abductions, UFO's, and et al. To what purpose is this propoganda however, would be a far more interesting and profuitable exercise and use of time imho. - Original Message - From: "Nicky Molloy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE: -Original Message- From: tenebroust [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Since there is no real evidence for it, we must just look at it all as speculation by "army officer X", or some "covert warrior" who now wants to come clean, etc. Well tenebroust, I guess the reason Commander X, Branton etc use non de plumes is because are in danger of their lives. I think anybody who just comes right out like fool with their name, rank and serial number and starts spouting off about the alien treaties the US govt has made with ets, really wouldn't have that much to say. They were intelligence officers and we don't really need to know their personal details. Other intelligence officers can know if they are speaking the truth or not and then it spreads from there.The information they present us with is generally self evident, because of a consistancy that others keep verifying, that they do have experience in inside covert operations. There are photos and documents in these books. Who are you? Why do you use a silly name? We don't know what country you are from, which gender, or how old you are, yet you want respect and to be listened to merely because your typed letters appear in our inboxes. Tell me why you personally don't give us your full name, address, ICQ number, CV, recent photo, race and blood type and birthdate. I'd like to know that before I even consider your comments on my post. You are looking for proof of someone's rank and their name before you believe them. Yet you are doing the same thing by hiding under a false name. Please - you don't even sign your posts!! So you want me to tell you, an indeterminate stranger going on public archives how I came by my info like a complete blabbermouth I'd have to be tortured to reveal it sorry. Please by all means keep us posted with the latest speculation in these areas, but let it reamin speculation and not the recitation of fact. OK but let me say you did get warned, but took too long looking for verifiable factual evidence to your satisfaction. Nicky On Sat, 03 June 2000, Nicky Molloy wrote: Well Tenebroust, I think we can safely say that American abductions could sometimes be the military because they sometimes pretend they are aliens by using virtual reality scenarios. But the American govt did build about 50 bases for the greys which was done by Rand Corp. I'll find the info. English people seldom get abducted by greys according to a UK UFO mag. Abductees in US have gone underground to both grey and military bases.. According to Branton, there are even more greys under Los Alamos than even under Dulce, a major nesting area going back to native American times. He has heard of an area near Los Alamos where the Feds bring huge shipments of cattle for picking up by grey ships on an almost daily basis. It is a forrested area southwest of Los Alamos where pictograms of 'aliens' exist. So the aliens have been in that area long before the atom-jacks came in. Also setting off nuclear blasts burns away the membrane between this dimension and the next which would allow any interdimensional entities easy access to our dimension. There is apparently more Ets seen in Nevada than some other places possibly due to the nuclear bombs. Other people in other countries have been abducted and people have seen them rising bodily into the air and going into space ships.In South America there are many stories of this. In Mexico there is a video of about 60 UFOs appearing in the sky at once when there was big crowd. Many hundreds saw them and videotaped them. Others in US have seen their partner sliding out of the window from their bed and rising into the air out into the sky. There was story about the UN Sec, prev to this one in his car watching a woman float out of her highrise apartment in NY and into a
[CTRL] N.M. Governor Advocates Implants for Inmates
.. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Alex Constantine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: N.M. Governor Advocates Implants for Inmates Date: Friday, May 12, 2000 1:55 PM From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Abemarf) Newsgroups: alt.mindcontrol Subject: N.M. Governor Wants To Put Microchips In Inmates Convict Chip Idea Stirs Ire Lawyer: Gov. Eyes Inmate Implants By Colleen Heild, Albuquerque Journal Staff Writer Autumn 99 - Issue No. 244 Gov. Gary Johnson has hopes that rapidly advancing computer technology someday could help solve the problem of New Mexico's overcrowded prisons. Much to the dismay of inmate lawyers, Johnson at a private meeting in May [1999] raised the possibility that a futuristic form of incarceration could include implanting microchips in convicted felons. Johnson made the comments during an informal meeting with the chief federal judge in New Mexico, top state corrections officials, and lawyers involved in an 18-year-old lawsuit over prison conditions, according to three people who attended the gathering. Johnson said during an interview this week that he wasn't implying the state could implement such a program anytime soon. But, he said, with "the technology advancing all the time, we're going to have in the future to ... be able to implement innovative ways of parole and work release." Peter Cubra, one of the lawyers representing inmates in the prison lawsuit testified about the remarks earlier this month at the Legislature's Interim Courts, Corrections, and Criminal Justice Committee. Cubra didnt' divulge where Johnson made the comments, but two ... [TEXT MISSING FROM PHOTOCOPY] According to Cubra, Johnson responded by saying technology is evolving to the point that microchip implants WOULD be performed, and someday would be relatively inexpensive. "What the governor literally said ... was, he took his index finger and thumb and held them about a half an inch apart and he said 'We are this close to the time when we will have microchips avialable' and then he took his left hand, took it to his temple and said 'AND WE CAN INSERT THE MICROCHIPS INTO PEOPLE'S BRAINS AND CONTROL THEIR BEHAVIOR THAT WAY'" Cubra told the legislative committee Aug. 18 in Albuquerque. Apparently it wasn't the first time Johnson made such remarks. People who attended the Santa Fe meeting said Johnson mentioned that he had raised the issue during his campaign for governor. After Johnson's statements in May [1999] those in the room were stunned, said Cubra and another person at the meeting. However a third person who attended but refused to be identified said the governor was obviously joking. A spokesman for Conway said Thursday that the judge wouldn't comment on any matter related to pending litigation. Cubra brought up Johnson's remarks urging the legislative committee to take the lead in setting prison policy. "This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard, he said. He told the committee "it appeared the executive branch didn't have any realistic attitudes about it. A spokeswoman for the governor said last week that Johnson was speaking in "very broad terms" when he mentioned the microchip concept. "He said he was talking very broadly, very future-oriented, like what are the technologies that are being developed for prisoners, what applications in general for new technology might there be" said Catherine Bedell, a deputy chief of staff. Asked Whether Johnson has any specific proposals, she said, "not yet" and referred further questions to Corrections Secretary Karl Sannicks. Sannicks, through a spokesman, said he hadn't heard about microchips being used on prisoners and "it probably would be something he would not implement." When asked about the May meeting, Johnson said Wednesday "I was talking about bracelets and being able to track felons out of jail, that that technology is going to exist if it doesn't exist already. "But it's going to exist in an affordable state and that may revol- utionize parole, that may revolutionize incarceration as far as we know it. In that context, that technology certainly is in the future, is going to play a role in parole, in incarceration, and work release." Asked whether he specifically brought up microchips, Johnson said, "Well, talking about microprocessors, the advance in microprocessors, again, that is technology in essence." Dr. Michael Hollifield, director of the Special Problems Clinic at the University of New Mexico medical school, said HE KNEW OF NO RESEARCH ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY ON THE USE OF MICROCHIPS TO CONTROL HUMAN BEHAVIOR. [Eleanor White's comment: CROCK] "There's a lot of myth and innuendo about this stuff" Hollifield said. Hollifield's clinic offers short term cognitive and behavioral therapies for psychiatric disorders Forwarded for info
[CTRL] NYP: SOMEONE'S IN BED WITH THE IRS
New York Post-Gossip-June 4, 2000 SOMEONE'S IN BED WITH THE IRS By LINDA STASI WHAT'S worse? Being stalked by Bill Clinton or being audited by the IRS? Answer: Both. Just ask Juanita Broaddrick, Paula Jones or Elizabeth Ward Gracen. After each woman came forward with a sexual allegation against Big Billy the big bully, each found herself the victim of an IRS audit and were forced to indecently expose their assets. Last week, the feds showed up at Broaddrick's accountant's office to check out her books. Hey! Either these are the three unluckiest women in the world, or something here smells worse than Clinton's socks after a jog to McDonald's. According to Steve Teitelbaum, former deputy counsel to the New York State Department of Taxation and Finance, "Out of 200 million tax returns filed in '97, only 1,519,000 were audited." In other words, if you haven't seen the president naked, you have only a three-quarters of 1 percent chance of being audited, but if you have and then talk about it, your chances of being audited go up to roughly 100 percent, give or take a point. Said Teitelbaum: "The chances of these three women, all with claims against the president, being randomly audited by the IRS are so astronomical as to be almost incalculable." Paulie the rocket scientist added it up for me. "It's about a .438 percent, or 1-in- 2,282,530, probability." The odds that the feds will ever show up are even greater. In fact, you stand a better chance of getting hit by lightning, winning Lotto and meeting a straight, single man at a Liza Minnelli concert than being raided by the IRS. My odds just went up after writing this, so on the advice of counsel, I am stapling phony taxi receipts and fake restaurant tabs to paper and sweating like Richard Nixon's upper lip. snip balance = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] US steps up challenge to a new global court
US steps up challenge to a new global court http://www.independent.co.uk/news/World/Americas/2000-06/uschallenge050600.s html By Rupert Cornwell 5 June 2000 The United States and Europe are on a collision course over American efforts to undermine the authority and independence of the new International Criminal Court (ICC) ahead of a conference to codify the court's rules of procedure on 12 June. The aim of Washington's massive diplomatic campaign, featuring both the State Department and the Pentagon, is to obtain a guarantee that no American citizen accused of war crimes, genocide or crimes against humanity could ever be brought before the ICC. Under the rules sought by the US, the state of which the suspect is a citizen will have to give its approval for a prosecution or, in extreme cases, authorisation would be required from the United Nations meaning that the US would have the right of veto through its permanent seat on the Security Council. The European Union, however, is resisting the pressure, arguing that such an exemption would reduce the court to toothless impotence. It claims that measures already in place provide more than enough assurance that ICC rules will not be manipulated to persecute American nationals. The ICC, launched under the aegis of the UN and whose founding treaty was approved by 120 countries in 1998, is seen by human rights groups as the most important advance for the cause of international justice since the creation of the UN. Almost 100 states have signed the treaty, including the entire EU, most central and south American countries, and 27 African countries. Apart from the US, the most notable dissidents are Russia, China and the Middle East countries with the exception of Jordan. But Washington's hostility is what matters most, forcing a choice between a strong court actively opposed by the most powerful country in the world and a much feebler version that America would tolerate. In a recent letter to European Union foreign ministers, the US Secretary of State, Madeleine Albright, implied that if her country did not get its way, it could withdraw from international peace-keeping and humanitarian missions. Pentagon officials in the past have gone even further, suggesting that Washington might consider pulling its forces out of Europe. The ostensible US objection is that it might be subject to "frivolous" prosecutions by its foes as the world's pre-eminent and thus most resented power. The more likely reason is entrenched American suspicion of the UN and all its works. news | World | Americas A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Clinton tells int'l terrorists: Attack these major U.S. cities- then martial law (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 04:21:25 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Clinton tells int'l terrorists: Attack these major U.S. cities- then martial law (sent to USCMike1's 39,615+ readers - please repost to your own mailing lists and newsgroups - Thanks). Dear Citizens, Patriots, Veterans, et al: Here is the list of 120 major U.S. cities that Clinton has told international terroists to attack. He has repeatedly broadcast, publicized, and advertised this list to the world for the past four years that I have been intimately involved with exposing the New World Order, its proponents, its plans, and its present accomplishments. During this time I have attempted to obtain the specialized training from the federal and local agencies necessary to avoid, recognize, decontaminate, and medically treat exposure to NBC = Nuclear, Biological, and Chemical warfare and weapons of mass destruction as to be perpetrate by international and/or domestic "terrorists." But, they refuse to allow any CIVILIAN to receive the training. ONLY the feds and certain state, county, city and local government agencies, including medical centers and law enforcement agencies have been allow to receive the training to protect themselves, the government employees and of course the politicians. It is governmentally forbidden (already in certain cities and states) for civilians to learn how to protect themselves from ANY type of physical attack, NBC attack, or conventional warfare attack as from guns, ammunition, and other implements of war - including would you believe it, protective gas masks. The government officials say that gas masks are considered to be implements of war and therefore CIVILIANS are forbidden from obtaining, possessing, or using them. Why? Very simple. We CIVILIANS are the intended targets. Notice that NO government officials nor agencies are advertised to be the targets. Why? This is all part of the plan for the New World Order rich, elite, illuminati genocide mongers to depopulate the earth. They want the present 6 billion people population to be reduced to 500 million or even to 200 million. This is so the 300 elites, with their one million population families and protectors (the top 1/2%) can have the entire world with its natural resources naturally renewed over time all to themselves - -and of course the remainder of the population will be the totally oblivious scientific automatons and engineers along with 199 million chemically lobotomized imbecilic work slaves to feed, clothe, bathe, pamper, care for, be sex objects for, and modern-day entertainment gladiators for the Luciferian elites. I have sent this post out dozens of times but it seems that now many more people are beginning to wake up and shake off the shackles of SHEEPLE-hood and they are genuinely interested in the FACTS of and the plans of the New World Order. So below I have copied the list of 120 major U.S. cities that Clinton has determined that he wants terrorists to attack. However, throughout his entire presidential career, Clinton has NEVER been able to coax, entice, prod, or cause ANY international or domestic terrorists to attack the U.S. All of the supposed international and/or domestic terrorists that the feds have lied to us about attempting to commit acts of terrorism have turned out to be U.S. military and federal MK-Ultra Mind Contol subjects or U.S. paid mercenary terrorists under orders directly from the feds and indirectly from Clinton himself. Thanks to JOE [EMAIL PROTECTED] for asking for the list of cities and to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Douglas Walker) for making it available. Anyone can visit the U.S. Army Chemical and Biological Warfare web sites and get the same information but the last time I tried all of the sites were locked as off limits to civilians. If you are interested in how far away from these cities you should be and in which directions please don't hesitate to contact either me or Doug Walker. OBTW, Doug and a few other Patriots have established safe areas in the north western section of the state of New Mexico to avoid the NBC attacks. Best regards, USCMike Subj: CITIES FOR ATTACK Date: 6/4/00 8:04:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: A HREF="mailto:JOE HOYLE"JOE HOYLE/A To: A HREF="mailto:USCMike1"USCMike1/A HELLO I would like a copy of the 120 or so cities named as being vulnerable for a possible NBC attack. Thanks for your time. BYE - joe.((( ' } Subj: [Fwd: Targeted U.S. Cities] Date: 2/2/99 12:12:27 PM Pacific Standard Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Douglas Walker) Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Johnson) This attached list will surprise some, but the many people that I worked with in the past informed me of a different pattern. Since (we will not mention here) American Agencies were supplying and aiding the means for Islamic
[CTRL] Judge Denies Soldier Over Anthrax Shot
Judge Denies Soldier Over Anthrax Shot BY THOMAS D. WILLIAMS The Hartford Courant June 02, 2000 http://www.ctnow.com/scripts/editorial.dll?bfromind=1007eeid=2455631eetype =articlerender=yck=ver=hb1.3 A federal judge in Denver Thursday denied a temporary injunction on behalf of a Fort Carson soldier challenging her other than honorable discharge because she refused to take the mandatory anthrax vaccine. Despite the ruling against the soldier, Pfc. Jemekia Barber, the case could yet become a crucial test of the legality of the military's only vaccine in use against biological warfare. Hundreds of service members have left the military rather than take the shots, or are being prosecuted for refusing to take them. It still could be months before U.S. District Judge Edward Nottingham decides the crucial issue of whether the Pentagon obtained proper legal approval to use the vaccine from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. This is only the second court case nationwide challenging the vaccine. The first one, in Pittsburgh, ended in a compromise, setting no legal precedent for the legality of the drug. In a Canadian case, a judge in a military court has ruled that a soldier there could not be court-martialed for refusing the vaccine because the drug is probably unsafe. BioPort Inc. of Lansing, Mich., the Pentagon's sole supplier, manufactures the drug for both U.S. and Canadian forces. Barber, 26, said she did not want to take the drug because of warnings on the label that the vaccine could cause adverse reactions, including sterility, and possibly harm her future unborn children. Her husband, Rodney, just received an other than honorable discharge in place of a court martial because he too refused to take the vaccine. Ginger Colburn, a Ft. Carson spokeswoman, said now that the judge refused to block Jemekia Barber's discharge, she will immediately receive the same treatment as her husband. So if Jemekia Barber loses the case, they will both be denied service member benefits. Jemekia Barber is asking for an honorable discharge, yielding benefits. And, if she wins the case, she will seek that same discharge for her husband. Barber's lawyers, Herb Fenster and Louise Bouzari, say the U. S. Department of Defense is using the vaccine illegally. They argue that it was manufactured to protect persons from infections obtained through skin cuts, and not for protection against inhalation of spores used for biological warfare. The National Institutes of Health said recently that there is no evidence that the drug is effective against biological agents. But assistant U.S. attorneys Mike Hegarty and Peter Krumholz are asking Nottingham to dismiss Jemekia Barber's lawsuit. They argue that the court does not have the power to order the Army to do what she wants. In addition, they say the court does not need to order a general or honorable discharge for her because Barber can get similar relief in the military appeals system. The U.S. military plans to inoculate all 2.4 million troops against anthrax as protection against biological warfare, and has already inoculated about 445,000. But, because the manufacturer has been denied approval to release its own newer product, it may run out of the vaccine in July, well before all troops can receive the drug. Read More Link to our special package: ANTHRAX VACCINE UNDER FIRE A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Clinton tells int'l terrorists: Attack these major U.S. cities- then martial law
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, 5 June 2000 21:37 Subject: Clinton tells int'l terrorists: Attack these major U.S. cities- then martial law (sent to USCMike1's 39,615+ readers - please repost to your own mailing lists and newsgroups - Thanks). Dear Citizens, Patriots, Veterans, et al: Here is the list of 120 major U.S. cities that Clinton has told international terroists to attack. He has repeatedly broadcast, publicized, and advertised this list to the world for the past four years that I have been intimately involved with exposing the New World Order, its proponents, its plans, and its present accomplishments. During this time I have attempted to obtain the specialized training from the federal and local agencies necessary to avoid, recognize, decontaminate, and medically treat exposure to NBC = Nuclear, Biological, and Chemical warfare and weapons of mass destruction as to be perpetrate by international and/or domestic "terrorists." But, they refuse to allow any CIVILIAN to receive the training. ONLY the feds and certain state, county, city and local government agencies, including medical centers and law enforcement agencies have been allow to receive the training to protect themselves, the government employees and of course the politicians. It is governmentally forbidden (already in certain cities and states) for civilians to learn how to protect themselves from ANY type of physical attack, NBC attack, or conventional warfare attack as from guns, ammunition, and other implements of war - including would you believe it, protective gas masks. The government officials say that gas masks are considered to be implements of war and therefore CIVILIANS are forbidden from obtaining, possessing, or using them. Why? Very simple. We CIVILIANS are the intended targets. Notice that NO government officials nor agencies are advertised to be the targets. Why? This is all part of the plan for the New World Order rich, elite, illuminati genocide mongers to depopulate the earth. They want the present 6 billion people population to be reduced to 500 million or even to 200 million. This is so the 300 elites, with their one million population families and protectors (the top 1/2%) can have the entire world with its natural resources naturally renewed over time all to themselves - -and of course the remainder of the population will be the totally oblivious scientific automatons and engineers along with 199 million chemically lobotomized imbecilic work slaves to feed, clothe, bathe, pamper, care for, be sex objects for, and modern-day entertainment gladiators for the Luciferian elites. I have sent this post out dozens of times but it seems that now many more people are beginning to wake up and shake off the shackles of SHEEPLE-hood and they are genuinely interested in the FACTS of and the plans of the New World Order. So below I have copied the list of 120 major U.S. cities that Clinton has determined that he wants terrorists to attack. However, throughout his entire presidential career, Clinton has NEVER been able to coax, entice, prod, or cause ANY international or domestic terrorists to attack the U.S. All of the supposed international and/or domestic terrorists that the feds have lied to us about attempting to commit acts of terrorism have turned out to be U.S. military and federal MK-Ultra Mind Contol subjects or U.S. paid mercenary terrorists under orders directly from the feds and indirectly from Clinton himself. Thanks to JOE [EMAIL PROTECTED] for asking for the list of cities and to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Douglas Walker) for making it available. Anyone can visit the U.S. Army Chemical and Biological Warfare web sites and get the same information but the last time I tried all of the sites were locked as off limits to civilians. If you are interested in how far away from these cities you should be and in which directions please don't hesitate to contact either me or Doug Walker. OBTW, Doug and a few other Patriots have established safe areas in the north western section of the state of New Mexico to avoid the NBC attacks. Best regards, USCMike Subj: CITIES FOR ATTACK Date: 6/4/00 8:04:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: A HREF="mailto:JOE HOYLE"JOE HOYLE/A To: A HREF="mailto:USCMike1"USCMike1/A HELLO I would like a copy of the 120 or so cities named as being vulnerable for a possible NBC attack. Thanks for your time. BYE - joe.((( ' } Subj:[Fwd: Targeted U.S. Cities] Date: 2/2/99 12:12:27 PM Pacific Standard Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Douglas Walker) Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Johnson) This attached list will surprise some, but the many people that I worked with in the past informed me of a different pattern. Since (we will not mention here) American Agencies were supplying and aiding the
[CTRL] [Fwd: Off shore ISP's (complete)]
Original Message Subject: Off shore ISP's (complete) Date: 4 Jun 2000 22:23:20 -0500 From: MichaelP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: ? To: undisclosed-recipients:; I think this is similar to the way in which the brits were forced to end the BBC's monopoly on broadcasting - opened up the spectrum to commercial stuff. Of course, the issues here could be totally different. Cheers MichaelP = Americans turn a tin-pot state off the brit coast into world capital of computer anarchy INDEPENDENT (london) 5 June 2000 By Steve Boggan A group of American entrepreneurs is setting up the world's first offshore "data haven", complete with armed guards and a radar defence system, less than eight miles off the English coast. From the air, the "principality" of Sealand appears to be nothing more than a small platform on two concrete pillars in the North Sea. But closer up -- and deeper down -- Sealand grows in size and in stature. Soon, this concrete fortress from which British serviceman once shot down German fighters, but which is now crawling with pony-tailed computer wizards, will take on an importance hugely disproportionate to its size. Within sight of the port of Felixstowe, Suffolk, the future of e-commerce and a form of anarchy that will terrify governments is being born. "Prince" Michael Bates, his father, "Prince" Roy, who is the founder of Sealand, and a team of American computer experts from the Anguilla-based firm HavenCo Ltd, are about to launch the only place in the world where legitimate businessmen and Cali cocaine dealers can rub shoulders, virtually and in complete anonymity. Its establishment is a direct attack on legislation currently passing through the House of Lords while, in terms of importance, it can be rated alongside the establishment of offshore tax havens such as the Caymen Islands. By locating their servers, the tools that allow website access, communication and financial transactions, in the bowels of Sealand, e-companies' business transactions, messages and records will be safe from the prying eyes of the police, intelligence and tax authorities. "It's a marvellous concept -- and great fun!" said Prince Michael, 47, as his new friends from Silicon Valley, California, unloaded the latest of many pieces of hi-tech equipment from a helicopter. "Over the years, my father has been approached by hundreds of people suggesting uses for Sealand, but he has rejected them all -- particularly the illegal ones. But when we were approached with this idea we loved it. "It is about freedom and liberty and making it easier for people to do business in private and to express themselves freely." His is the libertarian view. But in Whitehall, there will be a different take one that reflects worries about paedophiles and drug dealers and villains. The Foreign Office yesterday said it did not recognise Sealand as an independent state. Sealand began life as Roughs Tower, one of a number of concrete fortresses built off the east coast of England during the Second World War as a defence against German air attack. Unlike the other platforms, Roughs was built outside British territorial waters, seven and a half miles east of Felixstowe, so after the war, when the others were demolished, Roughs was abandoned intact. On 2 September 1967, Roy Bates, a retired British army major, occupied the fortress and claimed it. He argued that it had been abandoned in international waters and was his to take. The following year, the navy expressed concern over Mr Bates's presence and sent some boats. He fired warning shots at them and was hauled before the courts, only to argue successfully that the newly named Sealand was beyondits jurisdiction. A legal basisfor independence had beenestablished. In 1978, three years after Sealand declared itself a sovereign principality, a group of Dutch and German businessmen visited with a business proposition. While they were there, they took the fortress by force, holding Prince Michael prisoner for three days. He was freed in a counterattack from the air by Prince Roy, and the businessmen were taken as "prisoners of war". When Germany asked Britain to intervene, it was told the fortress was beyond British jurisdiction -- the second time, according to the Bateses, that Sealand had had de facto recognition of its sovereignty. The prisoners were released after the arrival of a German diplomat. Today, Sealand comprises two vast cylindrical towers and a platform linking them. It lies in only 30 feet of water, even though it is miles from land. As you arrive by helicopter, you are welcomed by "security", a number of armed and cheerful former British servicemen. They diligently patrol the deck and helipad round-the-clock. Climbing down the ladders of the north tower's seven storeys -- three of them below sea level -- is like going back in time. There are the remnants of bunks occupied by artillerymen, an ancient, purring generator and an arsenal,
Re: [CTRL] Conspiring Toward a Multi-Poley World
--- Aleisha Saba [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. Poley: I see you are Ph.D. I know people who will state unequivocally that Ph.D. stands for Piled Higher and Deeper. snort __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:
From: "Nicky Molloy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well tenebroust, I guess the reason Commander X, Branton etc use non de plumes is because are in danger of their lives. And you have EVIDENCE to support this claim? ;-) They were intelligence officers and we don't really need to know their personal details. Yes we do, if we are to adequately and accurately assess their credibility. Other intelligence officers can know if they are speaking the truth or not and then it spreads from there. By that argument, you destroy any credibility these supposed 'ex-intelligence officers' may have...because one would presume that if they were indeed going public with such secret and shocking news, that if there old comrade in arms didn't 'off' them, all those aliens under all those military bases WOULD If we HAVE been invaded by aliens who are being held under military bases, I for one am not going to lose sleep at night if they are so ineffectual as to not be able to silence all these supposed 'ex-intelligence officers' from revealing all these supposed secrets The information they present us with is generally self evident, because of a consistancy that others keep verifying, The same statement can be made of disinformation and propaganda. Disinfo and propaganda only work if they have 'consistancy that others keep verifying'... because the very 'facts' that are used to 'verify' is itself disiniformation... that they do have experience in inside covert operations. So they CLAIM, but what EVIDENCE is there that their claims are valid? There are photos and documents in these books. Photos and documents can easily be faked. You are looking for proof of someone's rank and their name before you believe them. Yet you are doing the same thing by hiding under a false name. The difference is that Tenebroust isn't making any wild claims about being an ex-CIA agent, to having inside knowledge of Top Secret information regarding space aliens, etc. If someone is going to make extraordinary claims, they better be prepared to provide background information on themselves, and documentation to support their claims. If they don't, then anything they claim should be taken with a grain of salt... Please - you don't even sign your posts!! And how do we know that "Nicky Molloy" isn't a pseudonym? And yes, I use a 'fake ID' as part of my email address, and only sign with my first name...but again, it is not _I_ who is making extraordinary claims regarding my background, nor claiming to have 'The Truth' regarding space aliens. OK but let me say you did get warned, but took too long looking for verifiable factual evidence to your satisfaction. Because YOU present it as 'fact'. No one would object if what you post you clearly labeled as SPECULATION, what we object to is you posting it as if there were hard EVIDENCE to support your speculation. So far you have not provided one iota of evidence. June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:
June, I'm sorry to have to tell you this but really this is tiring and its a darn less boring than reading you saying the same confudsed comments every post. If you can't/won't grasp the situation and get your own information which is readily available on the net, I can't help you. Provide evidence that there aren't aliens here because if you investigate, there is more evidence that there is company down in underground bases than not. I"ve been studying the situation for at least 10 years, and have personal experiences and know UNTOLD others who have had dealings with Ets. The last thing I'm going to say to you personally about this just to ask yourself this. If there are 6 billion people on this planet, untold thousands of UFOs flying about and still we stubbornly believe we are the only planet inhabited in this solar system, and any of these UFOs out there could have colonized the whole solar system by now, if it wasn't already inhabited, then could it be that not enough people have given it enough thought till now, and still they can't/won't see they are being conned by the fake moon photos and fake photos of whatever else out there indicating that there is no life.They are airbrushing UFO's off moon and Mars shots.C'Mon June wake up. CASE CLOSED Nicky -Original Message- From: Ynr Chyldz Wyld [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, 6 June 2000 00:29 Subject: Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE: From: "Nicky Molloy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well tenebroust, I guess the reason Commander X, Branton etc use non de plumes is because are in danger of their lives. And you have EVIDENCE to support this claim? ;-) They were intelligence officers and we don't really need to know their personal details. Yes we do, if we are to adequately and accurately assess their credibility. Other intelligence officers can know if they are speaking the truth or not and then it spreads from there. By that argument, you destroy any credibility these supposed 'ex-intelligence officers' may have...because one would presume that if they were indeed going public with such secret and shocking news, that if there old comrade in arms didn't 'off' them, all those aliens under all those military bases WOULD If we HAVE been invaded by aliens who are being held under military bases, I for one am not going to lose sleep at night if they are so ineffectual as to not be able to silence all these supposed 'ex-intelligence officers' from revealing all these supposed secrets The information they present us with is generally self evident, because of a consistancy that others keep verifying, The same statement can be made of disinformation and propaganda. Disinfo and propaganda only work if they have 'consistancy that others keep verifying'... because the very 'facts' that are used to 'verify' is itself disiniformation... that they do have experience in inside covert operations. So they CLAIM, but what EVIDENCE is there that their claims are valid? There are photos and documents in these books. Photos and documents can easily be faked. You are looking for proof of someone's rank and their name before you believe them. Yet you are doing the same thing by hiding under a false name. The difference is that Tenebroust isn't making any wild claims about being an ex-CIA agent, to having inside knowledge of Top Secret information regarding space aliens, etc. If someone is going to make extraordinary claims, they better be prepared to provide background information on themselves, and documentation to support their claims. If they don't, then anything they claim should be taken with a grain of salt... Please - you don't even sign your posts!! And how do we know that "Nicky Molloy" isn't a pseudonym? And yes, I use a 'fake ID' as part of my email address, and only sign with my first name...but again, it is not _I_ who is making extraordinary claims regarding my background, nor claiming to have 'The Truth' regarding space aliens. OK but let me say you did get warned, but took too long looking for verifiable factual evidence to your satisfaction. Because YOU present it as 'fact'. No one would object if what you post you clearly labeled as SPECULATION, what we object to is you posting it as if there were hard EVIDENCE to support your speculation. So far you have not provided one iota of evidence. June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL
Re: [CTRL] Conspiring Toward a Multi-Poley World
Well Tenorlove, I guess it takes one to know one . One has the feeling Dr. Poley sits on top of the world and laughs as the rest goes by. A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Al Gore - So Thats a Sex Symbol
It appears Al Gore has not decided with whom to identify this election. Now this man did look like Christopher Reed, but then an accident put Reed out of the Superman picures. But even prior to that, the creator of Superman decided to have him killed off, for his creator saw what was coming down the pike.Al Gore. This article was sent to me today, and I thought that is it - this is the real Al Gore. Nothing about him is real, he is a figment of somebody's imagination. Like a Pygmalion, he is being sculpted daily into something he is not, and it just does not fit. Who is Al Gore. For what does he really stand. Could you ever call him a leader? That is the question. So Lyndon LaRouche - here I come. You got my vote. Bully? LaRouche, for it is written isn't it in the psalms "for they shal come out of prisons to rule over you". Or is all Arkansas sick in the head. To produce such a man as Clinton? A Saba Message To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: ET: Al's got 'loser' tattooed where he can't see it From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date:Sun, Jun 4, 2000, 11:54pm To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Electronic Telegraph-Friday 2 June 2000 Al's got 'loser' tattooed where he can't see By Mark Steyn PRIMARY season isn't, technically, over. The Democrats had one down in Arkansas the other day - 78 per cent voted for Al Gore while the other 22 per cent voted for Lyndon LaRouche, the distinguished felon and eccentric who claims the Queen is behind the international drug trade. Let's hope Al sees off this latest challenge - President LaRouche parachuting DEA assault teams into the grounds of Buckingham Palace might lead to a certain tension in the "special relationship". I won't pretend to understand the minds of the Arkansan electorate, and even President-in-waiting LaRouche seemed surprised by the result: he never campaigned during the primary yet he performed better against Gore in Arkansas than Bill Bradley did in states he spent months schlepping around. Some say it was just a bit of mischief-making by Gore-baiters, others that some of those upcountry swamp-dwellers had confused Mr LaRouche with his fellow Lyndon, the late President Johnson. But neither explanation quite accounts for 50,000 real, live Arkansans delivering nearly a quarter of the Democratic vote to the publisher of such tomes as Jail Cocaine Kingpin George Bush (referring to George Snr). Whatever the reason, the fact that even Bill Clinton's home state is antipathetic to his chosen successor is merely the latest wobbly indicator for Mr Gore. Isn't it supposed to be Dubya who's in trouble? After Super Tuesday, the consensus was that Gore had emerged from the primaries much stronger than Bush. As you'll recall, Bush had supposedly run a vicious, negative campaign against McCain that had left the GOP hopelessly divided; utterly repelled the moderate, centrist voters he'd need; destroyed his image and exposed him as an empty suit with no ideas. Hmm. I think the media are indulging in what the psychologists call "displacement". There is a guy who ran a vicious, negative campaign that's left his party divided and repelled moderate centrists, but his name's not Dubya. The Republicans may have had to use a cattle prod to get McCain to endorse Bush, but at least he did it. Over in the Democratic camp, Bradley's still refusing to endorse Gore. New ideas? Dubya's got a zillion, all of which the vice-president dismisses as a "risky scheme". Al's campaigning as a human Denver boot: stay exactly where you are, America; do not attempt to move. Empty suit? Al's got an empty suit hanging in his closet. His advisers told him to squeeze into polo shirts and casual pants that would seem indecently tight on a Chippendale. When he was campaigning up here in New Hampshire, his nipples entered the room like an advance security team. Stumping the banks of the Connecticut River, the vice-president's sculpted butt, squeezed into jeans two sizes too small, looked like some novelty scale model of the landscape - the mountains and the giant cleavage of the Connecticut river valley in between. And yet, despite his butt, the women voters who turned out for Clinton don't want to know. He reminds me a bit of Barbie's boyfriend, Ken: he's buff, he's honed, he looks fabulous, but he has no private parts. I'm not referring to his distinguishing characteristics, but to a general lack of human personality. Clinton puts together a focus group to find out what he should do; Gore puts together a focus group to find out who he should be. Not only is there no detectable Clinton fatigue, but Clinton himself has been a beneficiary of a premature Gore fatigue. Back when the Monica thing started, I was listening to the gal who runs my general store do her usual riff on the President: he's revolting, he's loathsome, he's contemptible, he's lower than a skunk, etc. "So you want him to
Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:
In a message dated 6/5/00 7:58:22 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm sorry to have to tell you this but really this is tiring and its a darn less boring than reading you saying the same confudsed comments every post. If you can't/won't grasp the situation and get your own information which is readily available on the net, I can't help you. As an "friend of the court" might I simply echo June's sentiments and say that there's a big difference between FACT and WILD SPECULATION. Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:
snort Actually, I figured it was that even the grey aliens couldn't understand what the British were saying... Arthur Clarke wrote a story years ago about first contact in which the aliens land in Yorkshire, having carefully studied human radio broadcasts and learned perfect (American) English. Naturally, the first person they meet speaks a dialect so broad that the only people who can understand him are his immediate neighbors, and even *they* aren't always certain what he's said. - Original Message - From: "Ynr Chyldz Wyld" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE: From: "nessie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] English people seldom get abducted by greys according to a UK UFO mag. Maybe they taste bad. Remember the old Twilight Zone episode "To Serve Man"? Perhaps the space aliens know UK cuisine sucks... ;-) June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Japan and Project Echelon
.. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Paul Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Japan and Project Echelon Date: Monday, May 29, 2000 12:05 AM JAPAN AND PROJECT ECHELON by Jens Wilkinson http://www.twics.com/~anzu/Japanwatch/Security/Echelon1.html In Misawa, Aomori Prefecture, near the northern tip of Japan, lies a sprawling US Air Force base, best known as the home to the 35th Fighter Wing and its squadron of F-16 jets. But Misawa is actually a more grandiose facility. The huge complex includes a host of installations in addition to the Air Force landing strip. In particular, some six kilometers north of the airstrip, there is a mysterious array of antennae and radar domes (or 'radomes'), a cornucopia of sophisticated surveillance equipment. But surveillance for what? Oficially, the large radar site is operated jointly by various sections of United States intelligence. On the official home page of Misawa Base, a host of units are listed -- all military units of one sort or another. There is an Army unit with some 700 personnel, an Air Force group with 900, a Navy unit with 700, and even a small Marine Corps detachment of 70. Somehow, though, with the Soviet Union having collapsed and the Chinese government doing all it can to ensure it can enter the WTO smoothly, it is difficult to believe that all that hardware is focused on the sole 'rogue nation' of the region; i.e., North Korea. Intriguingly, among the intelligence groups that use Misawa base, there is at least one "unlisted" member. It is the US National Security Agency, headquar- tered in Fort Meade, near Washington DC. This body was relatively unknown until very recently. In 1986, however, it gained notoriety thanks to a young, soft-spoken lieutenant colonel named Oliver North, who made daily appearances on US national TV, explaining how he had lied to Congress, how he had sold weapons illegally to Iran, and how he had funneled the proceeds from these sales to the anti-government Contra guerrillas in Nicaragua. Today, the NSA even has a home page, though the site only confirms its existence, as well as the fact that it is involved in "signals intelligence and communications security." As it turns out, the NSA presence at Misawa may be crucial. There was a series of revelations in 1997 and 1998, primarily from Europe, that the NSA was operating a global intelligence network, called Project Echelon, with the goal of monitoring virtually all electronic communications - telephone, facsimile, satellite, or telephone - around the world. According to the so-called STOA Report, issued by the European Commission, the core of this network is at Fort Meade, but there are stations peppered throughout the global U.S. alliance, with the largest station at a place called Menwith Hill, in Yorkshire, England. The Echelon Project, part of a secret intelligence treaty called UKUSA (signed by the U.S., U.K., Canada, Australia, and New Zealand), was built up during the Cold War, primarily for the purpose of intercepting signals from the Soviet camp. With the end of the Cold War, however, its role has apparently changed to surveillance of "terrorists," as well as economic intelligence. This network also had a secondary function: to circumvent domestic privacy laws in the different countries. Many nations have laws protecting their own citizens from being spied on by their own intelligence agencies (for example, the CIA is legally prohibited from conducting domestic operations). But here lies the brilliance of the Echelon logic. If the US spies on Japanese citizens, and provides this information to the Japanese government, and the Japanese government spies on US citizens, again sharing this intelligence, then both sides can claim they are acting within the law. Misawa clearly has a major role in this global intelligence network. During the Cold War years, it was generally believed that the huge radar site was primarily focused on the Soviet Union and North Korea, and it had the particular task of monitoring communications from three Soviet satellites Richelson, p. 182). In recent years, however, a more sinister mission has come to light. Part of the Echelon mission has come to include the monitoring of Japanese diplomatic cables, for example, as well as the communications between trading companies and their branches in other countries. The network has apparently been used to boost the American position in trade negotiations with Japan. Of course, this puts Japan in an awkward spot. In some cases, it appears, the array was aimed not at the outside but rather at the inside of Japan. The array may, in fact, be a huge facility with the primary goal of intercepting messages - via radio waves, microwaves, even conventional telephone lines - inside Japan. It is rumored that agencies such as the NSA may have powerful software that allows them to listen
[CTRL] The CIA's Drug Smugglers
DAVID CORN: IN PLAIN SIGHT: THE CIA KEEPS GETTING AWAY WITH IT A few weeks ago, the House intelligence committee released a forty-four page report that declared the CIA had nothing to do with the rise of crack in Los Angeles in the 1980s. Why did the agency need to be exonerated of such malfeasance? Because a controversial 1996 San Jose Mercury News series by reporter Gary Webb exposed a group of California-based Nicaraguan drug-dealers who in the 1980s had supported the Nicaraguan contra rebels battling the leftist Sandinista regime. The contras, of course, had been a pet project of President Ronald Reagan and the covert cowboys he put in charge at the CIA. The headlines on the Mercury News pieces suggested that this particular band of contra backers shared responsibility for triggering the crack wave that wreaked havoc on inner-city communities across the nation. "America's 'crack' plague has roots in Nicaragua war," read the day-one headline. "Shadowy origins of 'crack' epidemic," read the next day's. "Role of CIA-linked agents a well-protected secret until now." Thousands rushed to read the stories on the newspaper's website. The phonelines at black radio talk shows lit up. Members of Congress, particularly those in the Congressional Black Caucus, demanded answers from the CIA. (Even today, the CIA says that its recruitment of African-Americans suffers because of these stories.) The CIA director at the time, John Deutch, felt obligated to attend a town meeting in Watts to deny the charges. And what passes for investigation in Washington began. The CIA's inspector general examined the allegations of the "Dark Alliance" series. The Justice Department did the same. Not surprisngly, the CIA's own gumshoes -- and those of Justice -- pronounced the CIA not guilty of complicity in the crack explosion. Webb's series had its problems. He had unearthed a good tale of contra drug involvement, but he had not uncovered a definite link between the agency and these dealers, and his suggestion that this one drug outfit was instrumental to the birth of crack epidemic was far-fetched. Now, the House intelligence committee, nearly four years later, has seconded the verdicts of the CIA and the Justice Department: "The committee found no evidence to support the allegations that CIA agents or assets associated with the contra movement were involved in the supply or sale of drugs in the Los Angeles area." But the case is not closed -- that is, it should not be closed. The spies' overseers in the House -- the people who keep an eye on the CIA for the rest of us -- also confirmed, in a quiet fashion, the real dirty secret of the CIA: that during the contra war, the agency worked hand-in-cloak with persons it had reason to believe were smuggling drugs. In a report released in late 1998, the CIA inspector general acknowledged that the agency, obsessed with its contra mission, had on a number of occasions collaborated with suspected drug-runners. This should have been a scandal in itself. The report provided the details of several examples. It also noted that the "CIA did not inform Congress of all allegations or information it received indicating that contra-related organizations or individuals were involved in drug trafficking." Put more bluntly: the CIA had covered up the contra-drug connection. A CIA official who served in Central America told the inspector general, "Yes there [was] derogatory stuff [on the contras] ... but we were going to play with these guys." Webb had gotten near this truth. In the middle of the just-say-no Reagan years, a federal agency had indeed struck a "dark alliance" -- not the one Webb had depicted, but one as disturbing. This revelation, though, received scant media attention; most news coverage echoed the CIA's self-exoneration regarding the crack charges. The House intelligence committee investigation repeats the pattern. The bulk of the report is directed at disputing the crack allegations. But toward the end there is understated recognition that scandalous CIA activity did happen: "As described in Volume II of the CIA IG report, under various circumstances, the CIA made use of or maintained relationships with a number of individuals associated with the contras or the contra-supply effort about whom the CIA had knowledge of information or allegations indicating the individuals had been involved in drug trafficking." Now why does the House intelligence committee have nothing else to say on this front? It preferred flogging Webb one more time to examining the real skullduggery. Moreover, the committee interviewed several senior CIA managers, and these people insisted they could only recall only one single report of contra-related drug-dealing. But with the CIA inspector general having determined there had been many such instances, it's plausible (make that, likely) that these CIA officials did not speak truthfully to the committee. Did the committee's report address this contradiction and
[CTRL] CIA urged to spy on all foreign students
June 5 2000 UNITED STATES CIA urged to spy on all foreign students FROM BEN MACINTYRE IN WASHINGTON TO TACKLE the threat of international terrorism, the US should monitor every foreign student within its borders, encourage CIA agents to recruit more "unsavoury" informants and impose sanctions on friendly states who fail to act against terrorists, according to a Congressional report published today. The US National Commission on Terrorism, set up by Congress two years ago after the bombing of US embassies in East Africa, gave warning that US anti-terrorism policies were "seriously deficient" and recommended a series of drastic measures that have angered its allies accused of tolerating terrorism. The most radical element in the report is a proposal to begin surveillance of every foreign student on US soil, since "a small minority may exploit their student status to support terrorist activity". To keep track of potential student-terrorists, government officials should be made aware whenever a foreign student changes academic course suspiciously, say, "from English literature to nuclear physics", the commission said. If the proposal is taken up, Laura Spence, the British schoolgirl rejected by Oxford and now heading to Harvard, could find herself monitored. The report, a blueprint for future counter-terrorism policy that is expected to prove influential on Capitol Hill, argues that Greece and Pakistan, close allies of the US, should be listed with Afghanistan as "not fully co-operating on counter-terrorism". That would bar those countries from buying American military equipment. "The threat is changing, and it's becoming more deadly," Paul Bremer III, a former anti-terrorism expert at the State Department and the commission chairman, said. The investigation found the CIA had become unnecessarily cautious and gave warning that "this has inhibited the recruitment of essential, if sometimes unsavoury, terrorist informants". While not giving the agency "carte blanche to hire thugs and murderers", agents were too restricted by human rights guidelines on recruiting informants, Jane Harman, a former member of Congress and a panel member, said. Bill Harlow, a CIA spokesman, said: "CIA headquarters has never turned down a request to use someone - even someone with a record of human rights abuse - if we thought that person could be valuable to our overall counter-terrorist programme." The ten-member commission, made up of senior security and intelligence officials, singled out Pakistan for providing "safe haven, transit, and moral, political and diplomatic support to several groups engaged in terrorism", and Greece, a Nato ally, for being "disturbingly passive in response to terrorist activities". The US has made inadequate preparations for a "catastrophic terrorist threat or attack" involving biological, chemical or nuclear weapons, the panel concluded. President Clinton should officially designate the US military, rather than the FBI or the Federal Emergency Management Agency, as the body prepared to respond to such an attack, the report said. "We need to take better steps to get ahead of the curve on biological terrorism. We need to be ready, and we're not," Mr Bremer said. Pakistani officials insisted Islamabad was providing "extensive co-operation" on anti-terrorism measures, while Greece rejected the report's allegations as "totally unfair". A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Conspiring Toward a Multi-Poley World
--- Aleisha Saba [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well Tenorlove, I guess it takes one to know one . Who me? I only have a B.A. .. yes, in my case it stands for Bad A** But I spent enough time in "academentia" to know the type. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Al Gore - So Thats a Sex Symbol
This is THE most oxymoronic subject heading I've ever seen in an email. ROTFLMAOPDML __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] TOO CORRUPT TO BE AN ARKANSAS LAWYER
Most people have respect for themselves and their job not to do it where they can easily get caught. Like "accidentally" meeting her at Camp David or something like that. Still some might think that Clinton is a sensationalist, I just think that he is a lazy in his sex life as he seems to be at everything else. Somebody made a comment that Hillary has had more women than Bill Clinton, so is he more concerned about competing with Hillary than he is with being president? Someone could make a case that even the President seems to need external control - like an implanted chip. ThePiedPiper 05June2000 Prudence L. Kuhn wrote: In a message dated 05/31/2000 9:03:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Most winning on the crucial everybody-does-it point was F. Lee Bailey, who claimed on CNN's "Larry King Live" that if "all the lawyers who have lied about the fact they had a little affair on the side should turn in their licenses" then "Shakespeare will have won. We will have killed all the lawyers." I wondered how his wife was enjoying that part of the show. You're absolutely right. In honor of wives, all husbands (lawyers in particular and I'm remembering that when I was nineteen, I had a short struggle with mine (lawyer that is) should lie and insist only those "other guys" ever would do such a thing. That will make all the wives feel a lot better. I'd like to stretch it even further. I want every guy who ever made an unsolicited pass at a woman or who cheated on his wife to drop dead. That should give us a lot of breathing space on this planet. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om -- Any person can stand adversity, The true test is to give a person power. If you treat a relationship as if you are the only one in it, eventually you will be. Atrocities happen when the people about you - start considering you surplus. "I tolerate with the utmost latitude the right of others to differ from me in opinion" Thomas Jefferson brbr My Grandfather told me there are two kinds of people: those who do the work and those who take the credit. He told me to be in the first group - there is less competition there. - Indira Gandhi http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/~index.htm ICQ 14484977 NEW http://ThePiedPiper.tripod.com/site_map.htm A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: I will posture another scenario the great Hoax of all time. How to achieve One World Government and total domination of the people by the New World Order? Easy: Create an Alien threat so dangerous that we are all glad to surrender our sovereignty we will be happy to surrender or Constitutional rights to combat the ET Menace. National sovereignty is in it's death throws. The WTO, the IMF, the WB, the OAS, the EU, the CIS, NATO and to a considerably lesser extent the UN, are quickly replacing it all over the world. Even China, supposed last bastion of autarchy, is scrambling as fast as it can to join the bleating flock. The era of national rule is ending. The era of corporate hegemony is upon us. Those of us fortunate enough to live in countries where Constitutional rights actually exist, at least on paper, still cling to the quaint delusion that paper can stop bullets. But it isn't true. Paper can't even stop jackboots. It never could. Outside of that, yeah, I agree with you. Reagan said much the same thing in a speech in the eighties. Characteristically, he put a positive spin on it, but it amounted to the same thing. Watch and wait ET one day will manifest themselves by the thousands in our skies. It's far more likely that a clever illusion will manifest in our skies and we'll be led to believe it's ET. See: http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/12.html A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: 'Hanoi Jane' Rumors Blend Fact and Fiction
Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com http://urbanlegends.about.com/science/urbanlegends/library/weekly/aa110399.htm ?terms=jane+fonda 'Hanoi Jane' Rumors Blend Fact and Fiction Dateline: 11/03/99 By David Emery Email rumors blending fact and fiction about Jane Fonda's activities as an anti-war protester during the 1970s have reopened old wounds for Vietnam veterans and inspired a new round of recriminations for things the actress did long ago, and things she never did. The rumors (see next page) center around Fonda's tour of North Vietnam in 1972, during which she cozied up to the enemy, posing for photo ops with communist troops and broadcasting anti-American propaganda over Radio Hanoi. During the same trip she participated in a staged press conference with American POWs, the purpose of which was to demonstrate that they were not being mistreated by their captors. Years later when the released POWs described the torture and degradation they really did suffer at the hands of the North Vietnamese, Fonda called them "hypocrites and liars." Those facts are not under dispute. Fonda's behavior at that time, considered treasonous by some, earned her the nickname "Hanoi Jane" among the veterans and POWs of the Vietnam War, some of whom hate her to this day. Since the '70s Fonda has revamped her image several times over, rededicating herself to her acting career, becoming a fitness guru in the early '80s, and marrying billionaire Ted Turner in 1991. In 1988 she delivered a televised apology to Vietnam veterans and their families, a gesture that didn't mollify everyone but established some distance between the new Fonda and old Fonda, whose actions, she finally admitted, had been "thoughtless and careless." As the '90s progressed Fonda's past was less frequently brought up as an issue and seemed to dwindle in importance – until this year, that is, when Barbara Walters chose to honor the actress in a TV special called "A Celebration: 100 Years of Great Women." The announcement of the program – which aired in April 1999 and did honor Jane Fonda – prompted an instant outcry from veterans and ex-POWs, many of whom vented their indignation via the Internet. Angry recriminations were posted in newsgroups, published in newsletters and on Web pages, and shared by email. Apparently bits and pieces of these texts, along with a few shameless fabrications, were cobbled together by persons unknown to create the "Hanoi Jane" diatribe which still circulates today. Parts of it are true and parts of it are false. Though we don't know precisely when versions of the "Hanoi Jane" message first began making the rounds (presumably among veterans and military personnel), they found their way into general circulation in early September. Each of the versions I've seen exhibits slight variations in format and wording, and in some cases added comments and/or deletions. Jon E. Dougherty, a columnist for WorldNetDaily, saw fit to quote a version of the message verbatim in his September 15 column entitled "Not saluting Jane Fonda." Interestingly, Dougherty's piece, complete with his own commentary, was copied and distributed by readers and quickly established itself as another popular variant of the already-circulating text. [Update: Mr. Dougherty published a correction on Nov. 10.] Below is a representative
Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:
Nessie: Either we run this government or this government runs us. Is there anything more obnoxious or disgusting than a Civil SERVANT with a little bit of power, power mind you, not necessarily authority. Some of these people are so stupid they had to lower testing scores for them to get one foot in he door, and these are the most dangerous types. Frankly I prefer the old order, when men were gentlemen and served their country and cherished the Constitution. So, these people are without authority and as far as I know as a conspiracy theorist, the only person I ever heard of who demanded this World Court was the Charles Manson family. Figure that one for this is a return to the 60 period, only it did not work then, and it will not work now. This group wants a Civil War in order to call for Martial Law. Think they will find out that people are not like sheep; they might take a lot and remain silent as they put their families first. But, once you tread upon the toes of the wrong people, well look at Clinton - he cannot go out the front door without 800 armed SS men, 20 black heliocopters, and an entourage long enough to be mistaken for a funeral procession. We have one thing which our forefathers gave to us and it cannot be changed without a vote - and that is the right to vote. These people are so insane they live in a world of their own, for it was none of my making. If we are luckey, the ET's will get them first. A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Clinton: Internet Can Fight Poverty (???)
I will give "SLICK WILLIE" the benefit of the doubt... The guy has a vivid imagination ... [[[ but with infinite ulterior motives behind his fork-ed tongue... ]]] Clinton: Internet Can Fight Poverty BERLIN, Jun 03, 2000 (AP Online via COMTEX) -- President Clinton floated some ideas Saturday for how the Internet could be used to improve lives and fight poverty in the developing world, from downloading school books in poor villages to marketing native crafts in cyberspace. "We should recognize what an enormous potential the Internet has for bridging economic, educational and social divides," Clinton said at the closing of a Berlin conference on retooling government for today's global information society. Clinton noted that Canadian Prime Minister Jean Chretien told the other leaders about how his government had connected remote Eskimo villages to the Internet. "That has enormous health implications, enormous educational implications and, my guess is, enormous economic implications," Clinton said. If schools in poor or remote spots had Internet-access, they'd also have the same access to knowledge as the rich world, he said. "If you have a printer and a computer in a poor village, you don't have to be able to afford textbooks anymore," he said. "It's a far more efficient way for government to spread universal information." Clinton also suggested "a systematic effort to use e-commerce" to market native arts and crafts from Latin America and Africa, which he said would "increase the income of poor people in villages dramatically." He also described something he saw on his recent trip to India. A new mother was able to get quality up-to-date information on how to care for her baby by going into her village's health office and calling up a Web page. "We're going to keep more babies alive because of the Internet," he said. "Those of us in the wealthier countries should be providing the money and the technical support for countries to do more of this," he said, "because it will move more people more quickly out of poverty I think than anything that's ever been out there, if you do it right." By PAUL GEITNER Associated Press Writer Copyright 2000 Associated Press, All rights reserved Find this story at: http://www.andovernews.com/cgi-bin/news_story.pl?220585/topstories ++
Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:
In a message dated 6/5/00 2:51:41 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Its pure religio-political propoganda, religio - because in many cases you will find all sorts of esoteric mumbo jumbo and 'spiritual' twadde and hysteria associated with many of these beliefs if ETs, Abductions, UFO's, and et al. To what purpose is this propoganda however, would be a far more interesting and profuitable exercise and use of time imho. There's little doubt in my mind that there are fear-mongers and disinformants aplenty out there. I agree that trying to discern the purpose of the propaganda would be worthwhile. It isn't the intellect alone that is equips us with discernment. The personal accounts of such people as Whitley Strieber, Betty Andreasson Lucas and others, including those accounts outlined in John Mack, M.D.'s books are quite moving and compelling. In my opinion, black operation tactics simply cannot account for the spiritual growth and awakening that is taking place among experiencers, those who work with them, and those who test them. There's one case some may be interested in - the experience of Katherine (k.t.) Frankovich. The Frankovich account is absent much of the overwhelming emotional content of other accounts, but it is interesting and thought-provoking. Her experience is summarized at the CNI News site: http://www.cninews.com/CNI_Contact.html#Frankovich "CNI News is aware of many reports of alien encounters, describing many bizarre beings. As a rule, we would not present such a report by a single witness, lacking other evidence. But the witness in this case seems to be especially credible and well-qualified, and was interviewed by respected researcher, author and filmmaker Linda Moulton Howe, who characterizes this story as "one of the top two or three" eyewitness encounter reports she has ever recorded. We present this unusual case in the public interest, with no guarantee of its authenticity." The full account is here: http://members.aol.com/KFrnkovich/index.html (Go to UFO/ET encounters and scroll down to "The Lime Grove Encounters" -- Samantha A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] rapist wants queer-friendly fedgov't-proclaimsJuneHomoPrideMonth
"NOW, THEREFORE, I, WILLIAM J. CLINTON, President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authorityvested in me by the Constitution and laws of the UnitedStates, do hereby proclaim June 2000 as Gay and LesbianPride Month."-Bill Clinton, June 2, 2000. Last Friday, Bill Clinton once again proclaimed June as beingGay and Lesbian Month - at least the second year he has done so. He encouraged all Americans - gay or straight - to "celebrate" thatwith appropriate ceremonies and activities.Clinton's idea of "celebrating" Gay and Lesbian Pride Month isto commemorate the "Stonewall Uprising" - a notorious New York City riot of 30 years ago prompted by a police raid on a gay bar. Apparently, Clinton has bought into the gay mythology that today'sgay-pride movement began with a three-day riot.Clinton also boasted during this proclamation last Friday that"more openly gay and lesbian individuals serve in senior poststhroughout the federal government than during any otheradministration." But don't worry, Clinton wants to make the federal governmentyet more queer-friendly; he said Friday that the Clintons/GoreAdministration will keep fighting for laws to outlaw discriminationagainst gays and lesbians at work. http://www.alamanceind.com/ BardPro Libertate - For FreedomBUCHANAN-Reformhttp://gopatgo2000.com/default.htm Broaddrick's audit is part of an effort by the Clinton-Gore White House to keep all the so-called Clinton women quiet during the campaigns of Mr. Gore and Mrs. Clinton.-- Tom Fitton, president of Judicial Watch
[CTRL] Fwd: [RMNEWS] PAPARAZZI WITNESS TO DIANA DEATH MURDERED -- BURNED BEYOND RECO...
A HREF="http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2000/06/04/stinwenws03006.h tml"THE SUNDAY TIMES: NEWS/A June 4 2000 BRITAIN Diana paparazzo's burnt body found http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2000/06/04/stinwenws03006.html David Leppard and Gavin Walsh A KEY witness in the police investigation into the death of Diana, Princess of Wales has been found dead in mysterious circumstances in remote woodland in southern France. The charred body of James Andanson, a leading paparazzo who hounded Diana and her lover Dodi Fayed in the days before their deaths in Paris, was found by soldiers on military exercise in a burnt-out car near the village of Nant. Andanson, 54, was initially a suspect in the criminal inquiry by French police into the car crash which killed Diana, Dodi and Henri Paul, their driver, in August 1997. He and his family were questioned about his involvement with the pack of photographers that trailed the couple as they holidayed in the Mediterranean in the week before the crash. Andanson was also quizzed about his ownership of a white Fiat Uno, of the sort that clipped the princess's Mercedes as it sped into the Alma tunnel, where the accident occurred. Although the car and its driver have never been traced, Hervé Stéphan, the judge investigating the crash, concluded that the presence of a white Fiat Uno was a significant cause of the tragedy. Detectives are puzzled by Andanson's death, which they say occurred in a "very discreet and isolated" woodland in the Aveyron region of southwestern France. His body was said to have been burnt almost beyond recognition. Although found four weeks ago, Andanson was formally identified by DNA tests only last week. He had been missing since leaving his Paris home at the beginning of last month. This weekend police said they had not ruled out foul play. Lieutenant-Colonel Gerry Plane said that although Andanson had been showing serious suicidal tendencies, there would always be doubts about his death. Extracts from confidential police files obtained by The Sunday Times show that detectives established that Andanson was in possession of a white Fiat Uno at the time of the crash in August 1997. Detectives said, however, that the paint on Andanson's Fiat did not match that recovered from the scrape marks on the Mercedes. The car was seized by police five months after the crash from a car dealer, to whom Andanson had sold it in October 1997. It was of such interest to Mohamed al-Fayed, Dodi's father and the owner of Harrods, that a detective working for him took photographs of it and offered to buy it. Andanson's son, also called James, said last week that his father never spoke about the Paris crash. "At the moment, we don't know why my father died," he said. Missing old school friends? Find them here: http://click.egroups.com/1/4055/1/_/163550/_/960228148/ RMNews, The Uncensored National Rumor http://www.rumormillnews.com THE ONLY RUMOR YOU CAN TRUST RUMOR MILL NEWS AGENCY P.O. BOX 1784 APTOS, CA 95001 TELFAX 831 462 3949 WHY WAS PRINCESS DIANA MURDERED? http://www.dianaqueenofheaven.com
[CTRL] Reno's girlfriend
It didn't take more than a few hours for an Internet appealfor information on Janet Reno's "past" to produce results.According to multiple sources - one of whom used to work inthe court system in Miami - Reno's "girlfriend" was Ann Bishop, aMiami television anchorwoman at WPLG-TV. Reno and Bishop had a long-term relationship. Courthousesources frequently saw them at parties together. It was thestanding joke of the district attorney's office at the time Renoheaded it - and the standing joke around Miami.Bishop was about Reno's age - and died of cancer Nov. 14, 1997at age 66. Soon after, a lawsuit was filed, challenging Bishop's will -which left her entire $1.8 million estate to two other women"friends."Bishop was also a close friend of Sister Jeanne O'Laughlin,the nun who is also a close friend of Reno's - who Reno tried tohave mediate the Elian Gonzalez dispute. http://www.alamanceind.com/nation/nation_27.html BardPro Libertate - For FreedomBUCHANAN-Reformhttp://gopatgo2000.com/default.htmTo support Mr. Buchanan in the White Housewe must send to Congress Constitutional conservatives who will: Restore the United States to "One Nation Under God" Return to Constitutional, Limited Government Protect the Inalienable Right to Life of All, including the Unborn and Infirm Protect Individual Right to Keep and Bear Arms Restore National Sovereignty, including Withdrawal from the U.N. Maintain a Strong National Defense Repeal the Unconstitutional Income Tax Stop All Unconstitutional Spending Protect the Inalienable Rights of Liberty and Private Property Abolish the Federal Reserve and Restore Constitutional Money Promote Pro-family policies End Federal Subsidies for and Control of Education and Welfare Comprehensive Immigration Reform Return Control over Elections to the People Abolish Special Interest Entitlements (corporate welfare)
Re: [CTRL] Oops/ k.t. Frankovich full account
In a message dated 6/5/00 12:51:52 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The full account is here: http://members.aol.com/KFrnkovich/index.html (Go to UFO/ET encounters and scroll down to "The Lime Grove Encounters" My mistake. Only a small exerpt is on that page. I found a much more detailed verson here: http://members.aol.com/kfrnkovich/UFO.html#Lime Samantha A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Supreme Court rules against grandparent rights
Supreme Court rules against grandparent rights WASHINGTON (AP) - The Supreme Court today curbed states' power to help grandparents visit their grandchildren against parents' wishes, a decision that could touch every American family. "So long as a parent adequately cares for his or her children ... there will normally be no reason for the state to inject itself into the private realm of the family to further question the ability of that parent to make the best decisions concerning the rearing of that parent's children," Justice Sandra Day O'Connor wrote in the court's main opinion. The decision in a case from Washington state yielded six opinions from the nine-member court, but no one opinion attracted a majority of five. Parents' right to raise their children free from government interference generally trumps state laws aimed at giving grandparents broad rights to seek visitation, the court ruled by a 6-3 vote. The decision invalidated a state law that allowed "any person," relative or nonrelative, to win a court-ordered right to see a child any time such visitation was found to be in a child's best interest. All 50 states have grandparent-visitation laws but few are as expansive as Washington's. "Because we rest our decision on the sweeping breadth of (Washington's law) and the application of that broad, unlimited power in this case, we do not consider the primary constitutional question passed on by the Washington Supreme Court - whether the (Constitution's) due-process clause requires all nonparental visitation statutes to include a showing of harm or potential harm to a child as a condition precedent to granting visitation," O'Connor said. "We do not, and need not, define today the precise scope of the parental due-process right in the visitation context," she said. Joining O'Connor were Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist and Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen G. Breyer. Justices David H. Souter and Clarence Thomas wrote concurring opinions. Justices John Paul Stevens, Antonin Scalia and Anthony M. Kennedy each wrote dissenting opinions. In his concurring opinion, Thomas said he agreed with O'Connor "that this court's recognition of a fundamental right of parents to direct the upbringing of their children resolves this case." The court first acknowledged such a right in 1925. Stevens said in dissent that the invalidated Washington law "merely gives an individual - with whom a child may have an established relationship - the procedural right to ask the state to act as arbiter, through the entirely well-known best-interests standard, between the parent's protected interests and the child's." He said the Constitution "leaves room for states to consider the impact on a child of possibly arbitrary parental decisions that neither serve nor are motivated by the best interests of the child." The case, pitting a state's desire to promote children's best interests against parental rights, has been one of the most closely watched and emotionally charged in recent Supreme Court history. Sixty million Americans are grandparents, including six of the court's members. A recently released survey by AARP found about one in nine American grandparents above the age of 50 helps care for at least one grandchild. The survey showed that 8 percent provide day care regularly, and 3 percent function as parents, rearing a grandchild. The Washington law had been struck down by the state's highest court, a ruling that wiped out an Anacortes, Wash., couple's legal right to see their two granddaughters. Gary and Jenifer Troxel had gone into state court to seek more time with the two girls, 10-year-old Natalie and 8-year-old Isabelle. The girls' father, Brad Troxel, committed suicide in 1993. He and the girls' mother, Tommie Granville, were never married. When they separated, Troxel lived with his parents. The girls regularly visited their father at the Troxels' home. After Brad Troxel's death, Natalie and Isabelle continued seeing their grandparents regularly until their mother limited their visits. The Troxels went to court in late 1993, and two years later were awarded visitation of one weekend a month, one week during the summer and four hours on the girls' birthdays. While Granville appealed, she married Kelly Wynn. He then adopted Natalie and Isabelle. The Troxels, married for 35 years, have three other children and five grandchildren in all. Gary Troxel, a longshoreman, has been since his high school days a member of the Fleetwoods, a singing group that made such pop classics as "Come Softly to Me" and "Mr. Blue." The decision comes at a time of decline for nuclear families and a rise in the number of nontraditional families. Among those urging the justices to move slowly in weighing the competing rights in such disputes were lesbian rights groups who say "de facto" parents - those who played a significant parentlike role in a child's life - should get visitation rights. Those persons could be
[CTRL] New theory on the mystery of the origin of life
EMBARGOED FOR RELEASE: 5 JUNE 2000 AT 09:00 ET US Contact: Jeffrey J. Sussman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 212-895-7951 Weizmann Institute New theory on the mystery of the origin of life proposed by Weizmann Institute scientists New model based on lipid molecules REHOVOT, ISRAEL--June 5, 2000-- One of the greatest mysteries, which continuously fascinates many scientists worldwide, concerns the way by which life emerged on primeval Earth. The accepted notion is that prior to the appearance of living organisms, there was a stage of chemical evolution, which involved selection within inanimate chemical mixtures. This is thought to have eventually led to the crucial moment, when self-replicating molecules arose. As self-replication is a most fundamental characteristic of living entities, such an event is often defined as the birth of life. Self-replication of molecular systems is often viewed in the context of information content. Many scientists believe that life began with the spontaneous emergence of biopolymers, such as proteins or RNA, where information is stored in the sequence of chemical units. Experiments mimicking the conditions on Earth billions of years ago have shown how such chemical units, e.g. some of the building blocks of proteins and RNA, could appear spontaneously. Yet, the emergence of proteins or self-replicating RNA molecules remained enigmatic. This started Prof. Doron Lancet of the Crown Human Genome Center in the Weizmann Institute of Science, and his students, Daniel Segre and Dafna Ben-Eli, on a journey leading to alternatives to proteins and RNA. They have developed a model, suggesting a new route for the origin of life, based on lipid molecules. This model is described in an article published in a recent issue of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Science, USA. Lipids are oily substances, known as chief ingredients of the cell's membranes. Lipids have two different aspects - one hydrophilic (water-attracting), and the other hydrophobic (water-repelling). They get readily synthesized under simulated prebiological conditions, and because of their bipartite nature, have the tendency to spontaneously form supramolecular structures made of thousands of molecular units. This is exemplified in lipid assemblies (micelles), which have even been shown to be capable of growing and splitting in a fashion reminiscent of cell replication. Yet a critical question was left unanswered: how could lipid assemblies carry and propagate information? The model proposed by Lancet and colleagues offers a solution. They surmise that early on, lipid-like compounds existed in a very large diversity of shapes and forms. They show mathematically that under such conditions, lipid assemblies could contain almost as much information as an RNA strand or a protein chain. Information would be stored in the assembly's composition, i.e. in the exact amount of each of its compounds, rather than in a sequence of molecular "beads" on a string. A useful analogy would be that of perfume: the information the scent as discerned by receptors in the nose depends on each ingredient's proportion in the mixture, but the order in which aromas are added is unimportant. Thus, the authors argue, heterogeneous lipid assemblies may be thought of as having a "compositional genome". They further demonstrate how a droplet-like lipid assembly, when growing and splitting, could manifest a form of inheritance. Their computer simulations show how a compositional genome would be handed down with some fidelity to the offspring assemblies. A crucial aspect of the model is how such molecular inheritance is made possible. In present-day cells, the replication of information-containing DNA is facilitated by protein enzyme catalysts. In the early prebiological era, catalysis could be performed by the same lipid-like substances that carry the information. Molecules already present inside a droplet would function as a molecular selection committee, enhancing the rate of entry for some, and rejecting others. Lancet, Segre, and Ben-Eli designed a computerized simulation that shows how, based solely on physiochemical principles, lipid droplets with idiosyncratic compositions accrete, grow, split, self-replicate, accumulate compositional mutations, and get involved in a complex evolutionary game. Importantly, it is entire assemblies, with their complex mixtures of relatively small molecules that are replicated. This differs from the older models, in which a single, long RNA polymer is what gets copied. The scientists' model makes very few chemical assumptions and derives a rich molecular behavior reminiscent of life processes. It therefore has the potential of constituting the long-sought bridge leading from the inanimate world to that of living organisms. This research has already attracted considerable interest, and was quoted in the recently published new edition of the classic book Origins of Life by Freeman Dyson from the Princeton
[CTRL] 1_Study of Waco-Overview
BEYOND THE VOICE OF REASONby Dr. Fran Haga A Criminology Professor'sStudy Of Waco In her heavily-documented 28-page report, Dr. Fran Haga - a criminology professor at Pembroke State University - wrote of her extensive investigation of what took place during and after the first Waco raid. While the report was submitted to the congressional committee investigating Waco in 1995, its contents have never had wide public exposure. One key factor in the Waco "myth" promoted by the Clintons Administration is that the Branch Davidians as a whole - and not just their leader David Koresh - were a bunch of antigovernment extremists. However, Dr. Haga notes that nearly half of the women in Koresh's group were British citizens - hardly the stereotype ofa bunch of rural right-wing extremists. Dr. Haga's extensive research led her to the conclusion that on-the-scene efforts had moved from the realm of law enforcement to the realm of warfare - with the traditional extreme regard by American police for the lives of women and children caught up in barricaded-suspect scenarios disappearing into what she termed wartime "rules of engagement" two years before the award-winning dissident film on Waco with a similar title came out. Dr. Haga's view of the result was that "... unidentified warring groups of men became locked ina lethal combat. Focused on each other, they created alethal environment where the deaths of the mothers andthe children were simply collateral damage. Untargeted." Or, as Dr. Haga also put it: "Legally, the individual rights of mothers and childrencannot be ignored in a law enforcement operation againsta home. Traditionally, homes have been protected becausethey are historically recognized as the final refuge ofmothers and children." Her sharp condemnation of the systematic use of armored vehicles to cave in much of the home of the Branch Davidians as if all those inside were now legitimate targets of deadly force. http://www.alamanceind.com/nation/nation_2.html BardPro Libertate - For FreedomBUCHANAN-Reformhttp://gopatgo2000.com/default.htm
[CTRL] 2-Study of Waco-How They Really Died
"Efforts to establish responsibility for the Mt. Carmel failed law enforcement effort have foundered repeatedly on the presumed inability of establishing in any descriptive evidentiary way exactly what was the nature and extent of the deaths involved. This report shows that the evidence exists and it can be described clearly, in common language."-p. 27, "Beyond The Voice Of Reason," Dr. Fran Haga If nothing else, criminology professor Dr. Fran Haga makes abundantly clear that autopsy reports alone indicate that thoseBranch Davidians who were shot dead didn't all die of suicidal wounds - nor of "mercy killings" by comrades scared by the fires resulting from the FBI's armored-vehicle assault on their flimsy building. This casts grave doubt on Washington's - continued to this day - claim that the FBI resolved the standoff "without firinga single shot." From p. 5-10 of her report, Dr. Haga examines the autopsy report of each dead Branch Davidian. Physical evidence indicates that some, like 30-year-old David Jones, died before the fire - so they hardly suicided in panic to avoid being burned alive; their lungs had no traces of smoke inhalation. Others, like 28-year-old Novellette Hipsman, are still-less-plausible "suicides"; Hipsman had two gunshot wounds - either of which would have been fatal in itself, and the lack of soot in her lungs also shows she was dead before the fire. Some who did die after the fire started - as shown by having inhaled the soot from it - such as 38-year-old Neal Veaga, had gunshot wounds highly implausible for suicide, in his case being straight back through his forehead. Steve Sneider - Koresh's second-in-command - died before the fire, as indicated by the lack of soot in his lungs, so he didn't kill himself out of fear of being burned when he saw the fire either. More to the point, a gunshot-residue test on his body found that it wasn't a close-range wound when he was shot in themouth, with the bullet exiting the back of his head. And since only 20 of the 80-odd Davidians who died in the siege had any gunshot wounds on their bodies, it sure wasn't anorganized "mass suicide" like the Jonestown, Guyana one at all.http://www.alamanceind.com/nation/nation_3.html BardPro Libertate - For FreedomBUCHANAN-Reformhttp://gopatgo2000.com/default.htm
[CTRL] JonBenet Ramsey the Sex-Ring Allegations
.. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Alex Constantine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: JonBenet Ramsey the Sex-Ring Allegations Date: Monday, May 15, 2000 11:30 PM This is the full text of a censored op-ed column written by Evan Ravitz, an activist in Boulder, Colorado, concerning sex-ring allegations, arising from the JonBenet Ramsey murder investigation, that he attempted to give members of the grand jury. Now, he is taking his case to the public. The censored column appeared in the Boulder Daly-Camera, a local daily: 'Nothing is what it seems' in Ramsey case by Evan Ravitz When Ramsey case lead investigators Det. Cmdr. Tom Wickman and Det. Tom Trujillo interviewed myself and Robert McFarland, MD, co-founder of Boulder's Parenting Place for an hour at my home last May 5, Detective Wickman remarked "Nothing is what it seems in this case." Here are several examples that have not received media coverage, yet: DA Alex Hunter concluded his recent retirement statement by saying, regarding the Ramsey case: "I believe most people feel their district attorney has done right by the law." Mr. Hunter did not say he followed the law, only that people think he did. He did not follow this law: Colorado Revised Statute 16-5-204 (l) states "Any person may approach the prosecuting attorney or the grand jury and request to testify or retestify in an inquiry before a grand jury or to appear before a grand jury." Dr. McFarland and I, after discovering that Dr. McFarland's mailings to the jury foreman had been intercepted, sent material directly to jury members at their homes on June 28. For thus exercising our right under Colorado law to "approach" our fellow citizens the grand jury, we were threatened with prosecution for Contempt of Court! And ridiculed by editor Hartman of this newspaper. It was not until September 23rd that I read the above law myself. The Colorado ACLU Intake Director told me on October 8 that they would take our case, although this was too late to be of use, with the grand jury about to disband. Perhaps there will be another. But valuable time has been lost. The Denver Post reported on 3/15/00 that Hunter also tried to keep his own investigator Lou Smit away from the grand jury until Smit sought a court order to enforce the above law! Our evidence is similar to that which the woman from San Luis Obispo, California and her therapist have been giving Boulder police in recent weeks, featured in a long lead article (by editor Hartman) on February 25, and others since, relating to a pedophile ring having abused and killed JonBenet. At Hunter's press conference on October 14th, investigative journalist Joe Calhoun (who shares in an Academy award for the documentary The Panama Deception) asked why Dr. McFarland and I had been repeatedly prevented from contacting the grand jury, in spite of the law. Hunter replied that a judge's order (Daniel Hale's) forbade us, which seemed to satisfy the media. Yet, every lawyer knows that even judges and DAs must obey state laws. Why would these leaders of Boulder's justice system deem it so important to keep us from the grand jury that they would repeatedly violate this law? The substance of our testimony to the police and what we still want investigated is what it seems Hunter most wanted to avoid: the possibility that accused pedophiles in very high places in Boulder -we suggested two names- had both motive and means to de-rail the investigation in the first hours, possibly by calling off the FBI. The motive would be to keep the wide-ranging spotlight of a media case like this away from people like themselves, whether they were involved or not. Normally, the FBI would immediately assume jurisdiction over an apparent kidnapping by "a small foreign faction" (so read the "ransom note") of the child of a Defense contractor executive. (Lockheed-Martin owned Access Graphics.) Detective Linda Arndt has stated that she asked for the FBI and police backup before she even arrived at the Ramsey home and was told no. This left her unable to control a crime scene filled with suspects and their friends. When she repeated her request she was told everyone was in a meeting. Why would police administration repeatedly refuse to provide backup and FBI assistance in such circumstances? Tom Wickman made another curious comment to Dr. McFarland and I, and independently to Stephen Singular, author of "Presumed Guilty: An Investigation into the JonBenet Ramsey Case, the Media, and the Culture of Pornography" (on page 217). Tom said that once he was "getting close" to arresting a Boulder City Council member, but had been told to "back off." Since Tom was legally prohibited from giving us any clues about the Ramsey investigation, I feel he was repeatedly drawing an analogy, by way of saying that he'd heard the pedophile-coverup story before and had been told to back off from investigating
[CTRL] 4_Study of Waco-The Children
How much care did the FBI Hostage Rescue Team show for the numerous children that it knew were trapped in the Waco standoffbetween it and the adult Branch Davidians? In her report "Beyond The Voice Of Reason," criminology professor Dr. Fran Haga writes that: "Hope for some time was expressed that the children mighthave taken shelter in the buried school bus which hadbeen accessible through a trap door - at the morenorthern end of the building (see trap door marked onbody recovery diagram 4). However, shortly after 6 AMApril 19, 1993, FBI Agent R.J. Craig's CEV had knockedthat end of the building from its foundation and hadburied in rubble the trapdoor leading to the buriedschool bus." This is beyond dispute; Agent Craig testified during the House Waco hearings (as Dr. Haga relates): "... to destroying stairwells and to following a plan toherd the Davidians to the center." Thus, the FBI admitted to the use of armored vehicles against a flimsy building in full knowledge that many children were inside of it - all in an effort to "herd" the occupants to undestroyed parts of the building. As Dr. Haga continues, the CEVs penetrated so far into the building - a building full of children - during this effort tosystematically destroy it in order to "herd" occupants to a part to be left standing - as to disappear into the building; the CEV at the front did so at least once, and it was intentional. She relates: "The audio record which once existed of tapedcommunications between the vehicles and their commandposts indicated that the CEV making that frontal entrywas directed to crash into the concrete block room andknock it down. These directions were issued while theentry runs were underway, not prior to them as part ofany over all plan." The "concrete block room" would later gain fame as "the bunker." http://www.alamanceind.com/nation/nation_6.html Matt Maggio Editor Publisher -- BardPro Libertate - For FreedomBUCHANAN-Reformhttp://gopatgo2000.com/default.htmTo support Mr. Buchanan in the White Housewe must send to Congress Constitutional conservatives who will: Restore the United States to "One Nation Under God" Return to Constitutional, Limited Government Protect the Inalienable Right to Life of All, including the Unborn and Infirm Protect Individual Right to Keep and Bear Arms Restore National Sovereignty, including Withdrawal from the U.N. Maintain a Strong National Defense Repeal the Unconstitutional Income Tax Stop All Unconstitutional Spending Protect the Inalienable Rights of Liberty and Private Property Abolish the Federal Reserve and Restore Constitutional Money Promote Pro-family policies End Federal Subsidies for and Control of Education and Welfare Comprehensive Immigration Reform Return Control over Elections to the People Abolish Special Interest Entitlements (corporate welfare)
[CTRL] 3_Study of Waco-The Bunker
"The concrete residue on the inside block walls are indicative of explosive activity within the room consistent with the charge that blew through the top of the room, from the outside in."-p. 15, "Beyond The Voice Of Reason," Dr. Fran Haga Photos in Dr. Haga's report - along with such physical evidence she refers to in her report as "concrete residue" and a"round hole in the concrete top of the room roughly 28 to 30 inches in diameter" - make clear that the concrete-block room referred to by the "mainstream media" as "the bunker" was the target of an attack with high explosives during the siege at Mt. Carmel. The photo clearly shows the rebars in the hole bent down into the room; this means whatever explosion took place occurred outside - with the force of the blast going downward into the room. This evidence is not consistent with small-arms ammo cooking off during a fire; it is consistent only with the use of high explosives such as dynamite, TNT, or plastic explosives. 27 bodies were found in that "bunker" - six of which had gunshot wounds that would have been near-instantly fatal; at leasttwo of those six died before the fire - as indicated by autopsies not finding any trace of smoke or soot in their lungs, showing that they didn't live to breathe it and thus didn't commit suicide out of panic when they saw the building engulfed in flame. http://www.alamanceind.com/nation/nation_5.html BardPro Libertate - For FreedomBUCHANAN-Reformhttp://gopatgo2000.com/default.htm
[CTRL] start your own country
http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,36749,00.html A Data Sanctuary is Born by Declan McCullagh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 5:00 p.m. Jun. 4, 2000 PDT WASHINGTON -- A windswept gun tower anchored six miles off the stormy coast of England is about to become the first Internet data haven. A group of American cypherpunks has transformed the rusting fortress, erected by the British military during World War II to shoot down Nazi aircraft, into a satellite-linked virtual home for anyone looking for a secure place to store sensitive or controversial data. The founders of HavenCo, which will announce operations on Monday, believe the concept will appeal to individuals and businesses looking for a "safe haven" from governments around that world that are becoming more and more interested in Internet regulation and taxation. It's for "companies that want to have email servers in a location in which they can consider their email private and not open to scrutiny by anyone capable of filing a lawsuit," says Sean Hastings, the 32-year-old chief executive of HavenCo. Hastings says that because a 1968 British court decision effectively recognized the basketball court-sized island as a sovereign nation called Sealand, HavenCo can provide more privacy and legal protections then anyone else on the planet. To create HavenCo -- which will offer Linux servers for $1,500 a month -- the founders signed an agreement with Roy Bates, the quirky "crown prince" of Sealand who landed on the abandoned platform in 1966 and claimed it as an independent nation with its own currency, stamps, and flag. Bates, a former British Army major, has undertaken a string of failed business ventures in an attempt make use of the world's tiniest country -- a platform just 10 by 25 yards that perches atop two cement caissons in the North Sea. One plan was to build Sealand into a three-mile-long, man-made island with an airport and banks. Another venture included working with German investors to build a $70 million hotel and gambling complex -- a scheme that fell apart with the Germans taking over the fortress in 1978 and Bates regaining control in a dramatic helicopter raid at dawn. This time the elder Bates, now about 80 years old, is taking no chances on his business partners: His son and royal heir-apparent, Michael, is HavenCo's chief logistics officer and the royal family has a seat on the board. But today Sealand's potential adversaries include not merely a few expansion-minded Germans, but nervous government officials who are aggressively trying to pull the plug on unapproved offshore activities. During a Paris summit in May, for instance, representatives of the Group of Eight (G8) nations met to hammer out an agreement on international Net law. "The idea is to produce a global text so there cannot be 'digital havens' or 'Internet havens' where anyone planning some shady business could find the facilities to do it," French Interior Minister Jean-Pierre Chevenement said at the time. When Sealand was simply an eccentric's hobby, the British government largely ignored the smallest country in the world. But if HavenCo becomes a popular destination for gambling, money laundering, or other socially disapproved activities, governments could move against it. The Home Office in London could restrict the microwave links that provide HavenCo with its lifeline to the outside world, and the companies offering satellite connectivity could come under pressure from regulators in their home countries. HavenCo could even find its bank accounts imperiled. For their part, HavenCo executives say they hope to avoid negative publicity. "We don't intend to make anyone angry at us. We simply want to provide online businesses a place with a sane set of rules that are not constantly changing," Hastings said. "If larger nations have a problem with unrestricted information flow, then their problem is with the increase in information technology, and not with us. They can't put the genie back in the bottle until every individual on the planet has had their three wishes come true," he said. Somewhat ironically, bandits recently set up a fake "Principality of Sealand" website to sell citizenship to unsuspecting visitors. Spanish authorities reportedly are investigating a gang involved with drug smuggling and arms trafficking using those passports. In a bizarre incident, one "Sealand" passport of dubious origin surfaced in connection with the July 1997 murder of fashion designer Gianni Versace in Miami. The British Embassy in Washington declined to comment on what would prompt London to take action against the legitimate prince of Sealand. "What it comes
[CTRL] The Conspiracy to Balkanize BC...then the Domino Effect....
and maybe even Texas will be liberated! -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 12:26:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Labour Welfare Party [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [BCPolitics] Pacific Island Nations...BC First Nation Support? And what about Vancouver Island, Queen Charlottes etc. Aren't they part of the Pacific Island Community of Nations? Seems to me these First Nations would be willing to support a bid by First Nations in BC to enter the UN General Assembly...especially if prominent Non-FN BC'ers like David Ingram keep saying the whole province was STOLEN from FN's. BTW, what is Green Party platform on FN Sovereignty? EE/LWP -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 10:45:27 +1000 From: John Ballard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Solomon Islands coup From ABC News Online at http://www.abc.net.au/news/default.htm Unconfirmed reports suggest Solomon Islands coup attempt Reports are beginning to emerge of another possible coup attempt in the Pacific, this time in the Solomon Islands. Australian Foreign Affairs officials have heard similar reports, but are still unable to confirm them. However, callers to the ABC say a militia group called the Eagles [Malaita Eagle Force] have put armed men on to the streets of the capital, Honiara. The militia is also said to have taken the Prime Minister hostage, along with an unspecified number of other people. Where the hostages are being held and what the demands of their captors are is not known at this stage. For catalogs of online resources see: Pacific Studies WWW Virtual Library http://coombs.anu.edu.au/WWWVL-PacificStudies.html NEWSALERT! $60 in FREE calls when you join beMANY! today. http://click.egroups.com/1/4261/3/_/103697/_/960233193/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE
From: "nessie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] English people seldom get abducted by greys according to a UK UFO mag. Maybe they taste bad. Nessie's trolling again. Well, here's a thought: Most nationalities don't get abducted by greys. Maybe the ones which do -notablyYanquis in comparatively large numbers- have some odd deviant quirk in their DNA makeup which interests the greys? Like indigenous American peoples (do many of them get abducted?) most of us do wonder about the mental equilibrium of los Yanquis. To us you lot ARE Aliens interested only in world domination. Perhaps the space aliens know UK cuisine sucks... ;-) Average British cuisine these days is more likely to be basedon frozen foods marketed by US corporations, BirdsEye, McDonalds, BurgerKing etc. We do eat a lot of hot East Indian cuisine these days. Maybe the Aliens can't handle that! Rory.
[CTRL] Israeli Torture Unmasked Just A Bit (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 15:55:04 + From: MER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Israeli Torture Unmasked Just A Bit ___ __ / |/ / /___/ / /_ //M I D - E A S T R E A L I T I E S / /|_/ / /_/_ / /\\ Making Sense of the Middle East /_/ /_/ /___/ /_/ \\ ISRAELI TORTURE http://www.MiddleEast.Org News, Information, Analysis That Governments, Interest Groups, and the Corporate Media Don't Want You To Know! - - - - - - - - - - YOU ARE WHAT YOU KNOW AND WHAT YOU DO WITH WHAT YOU KNOW To receive MER regularly email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] THE ISRAELIS WANT EVERYONE TO FORGET "How many drops of blood have been spilt on our soil and have not flowered? Remember me." 19-year old woman prisoner at Khiam MID-EAST REALITIES - www.MiddleEast.org - Washington - 6/5/00 For decades the Israelis have tortured Palestinians into submission. Torture has been one of Israel's dirty little secrets for quite some time; and they have perfected it and given it all kinds of other names hoping to both confuse and sanitize it. "Shaking", "hooding", "standing"...the terms are all well-known to the experts. The bottom line is that torture has been one of the most common means by which the Israelis have neutralized and demoralized the Palestinians; and nearly every Palestinian home has a story of someone in their family or among their friends who has directly suffered at these sadistic Israeli practices. In southern Lebanon torture was also among the means used to perpetuate that occupation by the Israelis and their surrogate SLA. The invasion of Lebanon, the occupation that lasted a generation, the tens of thousands of dead Lebanese, the blood-curdling massacres at Shatilla and Sabra and Qana, and the torturing of thousands -- these are not going to be so easily forgotten as the Israelis suggest. The hatred and bitterness created by Israel still has many prices that are likely to be exacted in the years ahead. This article by Robert Fisk who recently visited the notorious Khiam Prison in Southern Lebanon shortly after the Israelis fled tells a small but important part of the overall story. INSIDE A TORTURERS' DEN, MANACLES LIE ABANDONED By Robert Fisk at Khiam Jail "This place should be kept forever as a witness to our history." THE INDEPENDENT, 25 May: The torturers had just left but the horror remained. There was the whipping pole and the window grilles where prisoners were tied naked for days, freezing water thrown over them at night. Then there were the electric leads for the little dynamo the machine mercifully taken off to Israel by the interrogators which had the inmates shrieking with pain when the electrodes touched their fingers or penises. And there were the handcuffs which an ex-prisoner handed to me yesterday afternoon. Engraved into the steel were the words: "The Peerless Handcuff Co. Springfield, Mass. Made in USA." And I wondered, in Israel's most shameful prison, if the executives over in Springfield knew what they were doing when they sold these manacles. They were used over years to bind the arms of prisoners before interrogation. And they wore them, day and night, as they were kicked kicked so badly in Sulieman Ramadan's case that they later had to amputate his arm. Another prisoner was so badly beaten, he lost the use of a leg. I found his crutch in Khiam prison yesterday, along with piles of Red Cross letters from prisoners letters which the guards from Israel's now-defunct "South Lebanon Army" militia never bothered to forward. What is it that makes men do things like this? The prisoners thousands of them over the two decades of Khiam'sexistence included guerrillas, relatives of gunmen, civiliansby the dozen whose crimewas innocence, who would not collaborate with the Israelis or the SLA, who refused to join the murderous little militia, who declined to give the Israelis information about the Lebanese army. "I was hung here naked for 13 days," Abdullah Attiyeh told me as we walked along a dirty passage way beside the wall of the old French mandate fort. "They put a bag on my head and threw cold water over me night and day." The hoods were still there, big light-blue corduroy sacks with towels inside some of the towels bought from Norwegian Unifil soldiers because the UN globe was embroidered on some of them and so was the wire with which other prisoners, including women, were beaten. Big, thick wire bound in blue plastic. The torturers were sadistic, often stupid men. There were pornographic magazines and cheap comics and puzzle books in their filthy quarters. Israel has admitted
Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE
LOL... Rory, Butit's been claimed thru the ET grape-vine that ET's prefer those who do not smoke and that ET's prefer those who drink a steady intake of diet soda's... It's claimed that the meat is sweeter... making the victim a delicacy... (and tastes much like barbacoa, the cheek meat of a cow)... However, it is reported that nicotine residue causes severe allergic reactions in ET's and even death. ET Rumor Central has it that thisisthe true reasons behind the massive campaigns against smoking... is not just the cancer thing and health issue with regards to smoking; and is also why the information about nutri-sweet and aspartame being detrimental to your health, (i.e. causesbrain tumors and alzheimer's, etc.), is pooh-pooh'd... These marketing rumors are started and maintained for the sole reasonso that the ET's harvesting of food resources for the future... are preserved, not to mentionhaving viable research victims. SO... there's some more food for UFO thought... Therefore, no matter the nationality or DNA composition... IF you don't smoke and especially if you drink lots of diet sodas, chances are increased by 100% that you will, at some time in this life or the life hereafter, be abductedand/or regardless of being abducted, if you don't smoke and you do drink lots of diet sodas, you are better suited for mind control purposes. snicker, snicker - Original Message - From: Rory Winter To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE From: "nessie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] English people seldom get abducted by greys according to a UK UFO mag. Maybe they taste bad. Nessie's trolling again. Well, here's a thought: Most nationalities don't get abducted by greys. Maybe the ones which do -notablyYanquis in comparatively large numbers- have some odd deviant quirk in their DNA makeup which interests the greys? Like indigenous American peoples (do many of them get abducted?) most of us do wonder about the mental equilibrium of los Yanquis. To us you lot ARE Aliens interested only in world domination. Perhaps the space aliens know UK cuisine sucks... ;-) Average British cuisine these days is more likely to be basedon frozen foods marketed by US corporations, BirdsEye, McDonalds, BurgerKing etc. We do eat a lot of hot East Indian cuisine these days. Maybe the Aliens can't handle that! Rory. .
Re: [CTRL] Clinton tells int'l terrorists: Attack these major U.S . cities- then martial law
Didn't they hand out gas masks during WWII and also teach what to do in case of a bomb attack? And now with all this stuff about, "not only is it possible, but it's probable." (William Cohen speaking of terrorists attacks) You'd think they'd be doing the same thing... Jamie (sent to USCMike1's 39,615+ readers - please repost to your own mailing lists and newsgroups - Thanks). Dear Citizens, Patriots, Veterans, et al: Here is the list of 120 major U.S. cities that Clinton has told international terroists to attack. He has repeatedly broadcast, publicized, and advertised this list to the world for the past four years that I have been intimately involved with exposing the New World Order, its proponents, its plans, and its present accomplishments. During this time I have attempted to obtain the specialized training from the federal and local agencies necessary to avoid, recognize, decontaminate, and medically treat exposure to NBC = Nuclear, Biological, and Chemical warfare and weapons of mass destruction as to be perpetrate by international and/or domestic "terrorists." But, they refuse to allow any CIVILIAN to receive the training. ONLY the feds and certain state, county, city and local government agencies, including medical centers and law enforcement agencies have been allow to receive the training to protect themselves, the government employees and of course the politicians. It is governmentally forbidden (already in certain cities and states) for civilians to learn how to protect themselves from ANY type of physical attack, NBC attack, or conventional warfare attack as from guns, ammunition, and other implements of war - including would you believe it, protective gas masks. The government officials say that gas masks are considered to be implements of war and therefore CIVILIANS are forbidden from obtaining, possessing, or using them. Why? Very simple. We CIVILIANS are the intended targets. Notice that NO government officials nor agencies are advertised to be the targets. Why? This is all part of the plan for the New World Order rich, elite, illuminati genocide mongers to depopulate the earth. They want the present 6 billion people population to be reduced to 500 million or even to 200 million. This is so the 300 elites, with their one million population families and protectors (the top 1/2%) can have the entire world with its natural resources naturally renewed over time all to themselves - -and of course the remainder of the population will be the totally oblivious scientific automatons and engineers along with 199 million chemically lobotomized imbecilic work slaves to feed, clothe, bathe, pamper, care for, be sex objects for, and modern-day entertainment gladiators for the Luciferian elites. I have sent this post out dozens of times but it seems that now many more people are beginning to wake up and shake off the shackles of SHEEPLE-hood and they are genuinely interested in the FACTS of and the plans of the New World Order. So below I have copied the list of 120 major U.S. cities that Clinton has determined that he wants terrorists to attack. However, throughout his entire presidential career, Clinton has NEVER been able to coax, entice, prod, or cause ANY international or domestic terrorists to attack the U.S. All of the supposed international and/or domestic terrorists that the feds have lied to us about attempting to commit acts of terrorism have turned out to be U.S. military and federal MK-Ultra Mind Contol subjects or U.S. paid mercenary terrorists under orders directly from the feds and indirectly from Clinton himself. Thanks to JOE [EMAIL PROTECTED] for asking for the list of cities and to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Douglas Walker) for making it available. Anyone can visit the U.S. Army Chemical and Biological Warfare web sites and get the same information but the last time I tried all of the sites were locked as off limits to civilians. If you are interested in how far away from these cities you should be and in which directions please don't hesitate to contact either me or Doug Walker. OBTW, Doug and a few other Patriots have established safe areas in the north western section of the state of New Mexico to avoid the NBC attacks. Best regards, USCMike Subj: CITIES FOR ATTACK Date: 6/4/00 8:04:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: A HREF="mailto:JOE HOYLE"JOE HOYLE/A To: A HREF="mailto:USCMike1"USCMike1/A HELLO I would like a copy of the 120 or so cities named as being vulnerable for a possible NBC attack. Thanks for your time. BYE - joe.((( ' } Subj:[Fwd: Targeted U.S. Cities] Date: 2/2/99 12:12:27 PM Pacific Standard Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Douglas Walker) Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Johnson) This attached list will surprise some, but the many people that I worked with in the past informed me of a different pattern. Since (we will not mention here)
Re: [CTRL] The Conspiracy to Balkanize BC...then the Domino Effect....
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[CTRL] Background checks stopped more than 200,000 gun buys last year
Could this mean thatthe system IS working? http://www.trib.com/HOMENEWS/WASH/GunChecks.html Background checks stopped more than 200,000 gun buys last year By MICHAEL J. SNIFFEN Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON (AP) - Background checks blocked 204,000 of the more than 8.6 million prospective gun sales last year, according to a Justice Department report that shows state and local police rejected a higher percentage of would-be gun buyers than the FBI. The 1999 figures brought the number of purchase rejections since the Brady Act instituted background checks in February 1994 to 536,000 out of almost 22.3 million applications, the department's Bureau of Justice Statistics reported. That confirmed earlier estimates of more than 500,000 rejections. The bureau's report provided the first hard numbers on the differences between checks by state and local police and those by the FBI. The FBI performed 4.5 million of the 8.6 million last year, compared with 4.1 million by state and local agencies. The rejection rate among state and local agencies was 3 percent, compared with 1.8 percent for the FBI. The report attributed this difference to state agencies' access to more detailed criminal history records than the FBI's. In 1999, 73 percent of rejections were because would-be buyers had been convicted of or indicted on felony charges. Last year, the report said, all state agencies had access to "computer databases that record past felony convictions, and many accessed databases with other disqualifying information such as fugitive status, court restraining orders, mental illness and domestic violence misdemeanor convictions." The Clinton administration long has argued that the states are better equipped than the FBI to do background checks, but some states have not wanted to pay the costs. Twenty-six states handle some or all their checks. The overall national rejection rate has remained 2.4 percent since 1994, despite the Nov. 30, 1998, switch to computerized instant checks and the addition then of checks on long-gun purchasers. Only handgun buyers were checked before. A second statistics bureau report largely recapped data already released by the Justice Department during its debate with the National Rifle Association over gun controls during the past few months. The gun owners' group opposed President Clinton's gun control proposals and argued federal prosecutors were not enforcing existing gun laws. The administration said federal prosecutors were focusing on serious offenders and shifting smaller cases to state and local prosecutors and that combined gun prosecutions were up. The report said preliminary 1999 data showed 6,728 defendants were charged with federal firearms offenses, up from 6,287 in 1998. It also showed that between 1992 and 1997 the number of federal firearms defendants decreased 19 percent, from 7,621 to 5,993. The report attributed part of this decline to the Supreme Court's 1995 Bailey vs. United States decision limiting prosecutors' ability to charge defendants with using a firearm during a violent or drug offense. It estimated that 2,500 more defendants would have been charged with illegal gun possession between 1995 and 1998 if the court had ruled differently. The bureau said prosecutors compensated by seeking longer sentences for weapon use. In a statement, Deputy Attorney General Eric Holder said that since 1992, combined state and federal gun prosecutions grew by more than 22 percent. When final data are assembled, "the number of people charged with federal gun crimes in 1999 should be equal to the number of people charged in 1992, even though there has been a dramatic drop in gun crimes during that period," Holder said. He also noted that the number of federal firearms offenders sentenced to more than five years in prison is up more than 41 percent, and the average sentence rose by almost two years between 1992 and 1998. http://www.crayon.net/read.cgi?[EMAIL PROTECTED] ++
Re: [CTRL] Reno's girlfriend
Who cares. As long as I don't have to screw her, I don't care who does. Jealous Bard? J2 Bard wrote: It didn't take more than a few hours for an Internet appeal for information on Janet Reno's "past" to produce results. According to multiple sources - one of whom used to work in the court system in Miami - Reno's "girlfriend" was Ann Bishop, a Miami television anchorwoman at WPLG-TV. Reno and Bishop had a long-term relationship. Courthouse sources frequently saw them at parties together. It was the standing joke of the district attorney's office at the time Reno headed it - and the standing joke around Miami. Bishop was about Reno's age - and died of cancer Nov. 14, 1997 at age 66. Soon after, a lawsuit was filed, challenging Bishop's will - which left her entire $1.8 million estate to two other women "friends." Bishop was also a close friend of Sister Jeanne O'Laughlin, the nun who is also a close friend of Reno's - who Reno tried to have mediate the Elian Gonzalez dispute. http://www.alamanceind.com/nation/nation_27.html Bard Pro Libertate - For Freedom BUCHANAN-Reform http://gopatgo2000.com/default.htm To support Mr. Buchanan in the White House we must send to Congress Constitutional conservatives who will: Restore the United States to "One Nation Under God" Return to Constitutional, Limited Government Protect the Inalienable Right to Life of All, including the Unborn and Infirm Protect Individual Right to Keep and Bear Arms Restore National Sovereignty, including Withdrawal from the U.N. Maintain a Strong National Defense Repeal the Unconstitutional Income Tax Stop All Unconstitutional Spending Protect the Inalienable Rights of Liberty and Private Property Abolish the Federal Reserve and Restore Constitutional Money Promote Pro-family policies End Federal Subsidies for and Control of Education and Welfare Comprehensive Immigration Reform Return Control over Elections to the People Abolish Special Interest Entitlements (corporate welfare) A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] WHAT IN THE WORLD CAN HE DO NEXT
BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA A PROCLAMATION Gay and lesbian Americans have made important and lasting contributions to our Nation in every field of endeavor. Too often, however, gays and lesbians face prejudice and discrimina-tion; too many have had to hide or deny their sexual orientation in order to keep their jobs or to live safely in their communities. In recent years, we have made some progress righting these wrongs. Since the Stonewall uprising in New York City more than 30 years ago, the gay and lesbian rights movement has united gays and lesbians, their families and friends, and all those committed to justice and equality in a crusade to outlaw discriminatory laws and practices and to protect gays and lesbians from prejudice and persecution. I am proud of the part that my Administration has played to achieve these goals. Today, more openly gay and lesbian individuals serve in senior posts throughout the Federal Government than during any other Administration. To build on our progress, in 1998 I issued an Executive Order to prohibit discrimination in the Federal civilian workforce based on sexual orientation, and my Administration continues to fight for the Employment Non-Discrimination Act, which would outlaw discrimination in the workplace based on sexual orientation. Yet many challenges still lie before us. As we have learned from recent tragedies, prejudice against gays and lesbians can still erupt into acts of hatred and violence. I continue to call upon the Congress to pass meaningful hate crimes legislation to strengthen the Department of Justice's ability to prosecute hate crimes committed due to the victims sexual orientation. With each passing year the American people become more receptive to diversity and more open to those who are different from themselves. Our Nation is at last realizing that gays and lesbians must no longer be strangers among friends, as the civil rights pioneer David Mixner once noted. Rather, we must finally recognize these Americans for what they are: our colleagues and neighbors, daughters and sons, sisters and brothers, friends and partners. This June, recognizing the joys and sorrows that the gay and lesbian movement has witnessed and the work that remains to be done, we observe Gay and Lesbian Pride Month and celebrate the progress we have made in creating a society more inclusive and accepting of gays and lesbians. I hope that in this new millennium we will continue to break down the walls of fear and prejudice and work to build a bridge to understanding and tolerance, until gays and lesbians are afforded the same rights and responsibilities as all Americans. NOW, THEREFORE, I, WILLIAM J. CLINTON, President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim June 2000 as Gay and Lesbian Pride Month. I encourage all Americans to observe this month with appropriate programs, ceremonies, and activities that celebrate our diversity and recognize the gay and lesbian Americans whose many and varied contributions have enriched our national life. IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this second day of June, in the year of our Lord two thousand, and of the Independence of the United States of America the two hundred and twenty-fourth. WILLIAM J. CLINTON 6/5/00 Document2 1
Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:
Aleisha Saba wrote: Nessie: Either we run this government or this government runs us. Is there anything more obnoxious or disgusting than a Civil SERVANT with a little bit of power, power mind you, not necessarily authority. Some of these people are so stupid they had to lower testing scores for them to get one foot in he door, and these are the most dangerous types. This is a comforting myth. The governing elites are very intelligent. They are generally much smarter than the population they govern. There are exceptions. Ronald Reagan was an idiot. George Bush Sr. Barely broke the surface, and Shrub is even dumber than Reagan. I was told by someone who worked with Gore that he was intelligent, but I just don't see it. Frankly I prefer the old order, when men were gentlemen and served their country and cherished the Constitution. Really? Where was this? Not in THIS country. So, these people are without authority and as far as I know as a conspiracy theorist, the only person I ever heard of who demanded this World Court was the Charles Manson family. Figure that one for this is a return to the 60 period, only it did not work then, and it will not work now. This group wants a Civil War in order to call for Martial Law. Think they will find out that people are not like sheep; they might take a lot and remain silent as they put their families first. But, once you tread upon the toes of the wrong people, well look at Clinton - he cannot go out the front door without 800 armed SS men, 20 black heliocopters, and an entourage long enough to be mistaken for a funeral procession. We have one thing which our forefathers gave to us and it cannot be changed without a vote - and that is the right to vote. Your vote is worthless. It was one of the first things to go. These people are so insane they live in a world of their own, for it was none of my making. This is true. If we are luckey, the ET's will get them first. Not quite. If we're lucky the ET's will get the ET sensitives first so they will quit being a distraction from serious matters. Joshua2 A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bilderberg-participants, year 2000 in Belgium
DIG alfred webre wrote: The usual demonology of global mind control exploitation is in attendance at this years' Bilderbergers - from Henry Kissinger to David Rockefeller. The remark has been made that Bilderbergers are like "high=level employees". Stupid and presumptive remark. Why should they be anyone's employees? Why can't they just be what they are. The supreme planning group of the world's rich elite. Their principals are elsewhere. The question is, then: Who are the Bilderbergers' employers? I am. Joshua2 Alfred Webre, Vancouver, BC = Bilderberg-participants, year 2000 in Belgium Bilderberg Press Release extract: 3 June 2000 The 48th Bilderberg meeting was held in Brussels, Belgium, 1-3 June 2000. Among other subjects the Conference discussed US Elections, Globalisation, New Economy, the Balkans, EU Enlargement, the European Far Right. Approximately 100 participants from North America and Europe attended the discussions. The meeting was private in order to encourage frank and open discussion. etc. Bilderberg meetings, Brussels, Belgium, 1-3 June 2000 List of Participants, 3 June 2000 Honorary Secretary General: J. Martin Taylor, Chairman, WH Smith Group, Adviser, Goldman Sachs Honorary Chairman: Etienne Davignon, Chairman, Société Générale de Belgique Agnelli, Giovanni, I, Fiat Agnelli, Umberto, I, IFIL Aguirre y Gil de Biedma, Esperenza, E, Pres. Spanish Senate Allaire, Paul, USA, Chair, Xerox Ambrosetti, Alfredo, I, Ambrosetti Group Andersen, Bodil Nyboe, DK, Governor, Central Bank of Denmark Asper, Israel, CDN, Chair, CanWest Avery, Graham, INT, Chief Adviser for Enlargement, EC Balsemão, Francisco Pinto, P, Uni, Lisbon, Impressa Barnevik, Percy, S, Investor AB Benschop, Dick, NL, State Secretary for European Affairs Bernabè, Franco, I, Italian rep on Balkan reconstruction Betz, Hans-Georg, Columbia NY Unis. Bildt, Carl, INT, UN (Balkans) Black, Conrad, CDN, Chair, Telegraph Group Bruton, John, IRL, Leader, Fine Gael Buchanan, Robin WT, GB, Bain Co Clarke, Kenneth, GB, MP Çolakoglu, Nuri, TR, NTV Collomb, Bertrand, Lafarge Cromme, Gerhard, D, Thyssen/Krupp David, George A, GR, Hellenic Bottling Deutch, John M, MIT Diamandouros, P Nikiforos, GR, Ombudsman Dodd, Christopher J, USA, Senator, D, Connecticut Donilon, Thomas E, USA, FannieMae Dyson, Esther, USA, EDventure Fréchette, Louise, INT, UN Fresco, Paolo, I, Fiat Frum, David, CDN, National Post Gouveia, Teresa Patrício, P, MP (PSD) Graham, Donald E, USA, Washington Post Hagel, Chuck, USA, Senator, R, Nebraska Halberstadt, Victor, NL, Leiden Univ. Hambro, Christian, N, Research Council of Norway Hampel, Erich, A, Creditanstalt-Bankverein Hutchison, Kay bailey, USA, Senator, R, Texas Huyghebaert, Jan, B, Almanij NV Janssen, Daniel E, B, Solvay Johansson, Leif, S, Volvo Johnson, James A, USA, Johnson Capital Jordan Jr, Vernon E, USA, Lazard Frères Kayhan, Muharrem, TR, Söktas Kissinger, Henry A, USA, Kissinger Associates Kopper, Hilmar, D, Deutsche Bank Kravis, Henry R, USA, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts Kravis, Marie-Josée, USA, Hudson Institute Lamy, Pascal, INT, European Commissioner Lévy-Lang, André, F, Former Chair Paribas Lippens, Maurice, B, Fortis Lipponen, Paavo, FIN, Prime Minister Mathews, Jessica T, USA, Carnegie Endowment McDonough, William J, USA, Pres. Federal Reserve Bank of NY Montbrial, Thierry de, F, French Inst of International Relations Moore, Mike, INT, WTO Nass, Matthias, D, Die Zeit Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands Ollila, Jorma, FIN, Nokia Padoa-Schioppa, tommaso, INT, ECB Pagrotsky, Leif, S, Trade Minister Papandreou, George A, GR, Foreign Minister Petersson, Lars Eric, S, Skandia Petritsch, Wolfgang, A, High Rep, Bosnia; EU negotiator Kosovo Pury, David de, CH, de Pury Pictet Turrettini Rasmussen, Anders Fogh, DK, Liberal Party Reiten, Eivind, N, Norsk Hydro Richardson, Bill, USA, Energy Secretary Riotta, Gianni, I, La Stampa Rockefeller, David, USA, Chase Manhattan Bank Rodriguez Inciarte, Matías, E, BSCH Roll, Eric, GB, UBS Warburg Ruggiero, Renato, I, Schroder Salomon Smith Barney Scholten, Rudolf, A, Österreichische Kontrollbank Schoutheete de Tervarent, Ph de, B, Former EU Perm Rep Seidenfaden, Tøger, DK, Politiken Solana Madariaga, Javier, INT, Sec Gen, Council of the EU Soros, George, USA, Soros Fund Management Steinberg, James B, USA, Dep Asst to the President for National Security Affairs Strauss-Kahn, Dominique, F, Univ. of Paris, Fomer Finance Minister Surroi, Veton, Kosovo, Publisher, KOHA Ditore Sutherland, Peter D, IRL, Goldman Sachs BP Amoco Tarullo, Daniel K, USA, Georgetowm Univ. Thornton, John L, Goldman Sachs Tremonti, Giulio, I, Finance Commission, Chamber of Deputies Trichet, Jean-Claude, F, Banque de France Vasella, Daniel L, CH, Novartis Veer, Jeroen van der, NL, Shell Vink, Lodewijk JR
Re: [CTRL] Bilderberg-participants, year 2000 in Belgium
"[to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote: In a message dated 06/04/2000 6:04:53 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The question is, then: Who are the Bilderbergers' employers? ### We know that there is no such thing as the Bilderbergers, because Rush Limbaugh has told us so. (Many times) There is also no such thing as the Council on Foreign Relations, or if there is, we can be sure it's innocent and harmless, because Rush Limbaugh has told us so. What's funny is that Limbaugh openly states on the air, "You don't have to think...I will think for you and I will tell you what's important." So the "Dittoheads" let Rush think for them. Hey...Rush says there is no such thing as a "Conspiracy" and that anybody who thinks they exist is a total whacko. This sounds just like Professor Jerry Mander doesn't it? What are you referring to here? What did Mander say? J2 Notice Herr Henry Kissinger is once more in attendance at this meeting. (I think he's made about all of them) Let's not forget Kissinger's infamous quote from the Bilderberg Meeting in Evian France several years ago: "Today the people of Los Angeles would be outraged if U.N. troops were patrolling the streets of L.A. Tomorrow, they will be grateful." Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] study reveals continued reports of increased pain in dying hospitalized patients
H? Let me see... Why would family members be reporting a high incidence of pain in their dying loved ones? Could it be that THEY, the family member(s) are the only ones listening to the patient, while the doctors wink and tell the patient that the pain is not as bad as the patient claims, or that it is only in their mind? I certainly wonder... hm. Could it also be that the government has put so many regulatory controls on narcotics that the doctors fear that they will lose their licenses if they are perceived as "over prescribing" pain medications or giving pain meds for illnesses that the government and insurance corporates have dictated are painless or less painful than the patient reports? H? Wonder what the problem is here? http://www.eurekalert.org/releases/ohsu-osr060500.html FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: 5 JUNE 2000 Contact: Jim Newman[EMAIL PROTECTED]503-494-8231Oregon Health Sciences University OHSU study reveals continued reports of increased pain in dying hospitalized patients Portland, Ore. -- A new study by researchers at Oregon Health Sciences University notes continued reports of increased pain for dying, hospitalized Oregonians in late 1998. The study, which is printed in this month's edition of the Western Journal of Medicine, shows 54 percent of family members reported their loved one had moderate or severe pain in the last week of life. Previously gathered data shows a sharp increase in pain levels for dying hospitalized patients. Complaints of high pain levels increased from 33 percent to 57 percent in late 1997. Susan Tolle, M.D., director of OHSU's Center for Ethics in Health Care; Virginia Tilden, Ph.D., R.N., dean of research in OHSU's School of Nursing; Susan Hickman, Ph.D., project director at the Center for Ethics; and Anne Rosenfeld, Ph.D., assistant professor in the School of Nursing, conducted both studies. When combined, the studies identify a continued, sharp increase in family reports of pain at the end of life for hospitalized patients. However, researchers point out that neither study draws conclusions about cause and effect. "We will never know why family members of hospitalized dying patients reported higher rates of pain in late 1997, nor why they continued to report higher rates of pain in late 1998," said Tilden, a co-author of the study. "Late 1997 was a volatile time in Oregon's political and regulatory climate. Events such as the legalization of physician-assisted suicide and an extensive pre-ballot media campaign about end-of-life care were just a couple of the things that were happening at the time." Team members suggest possible explanations for increased reports of pain include more family awareness about pain treatment options and a possible change in physician prescribing practices due to fears of regulatory sanctions. "On the one hand, families may have higher expectations about pain management than they have in the past and may be reporting pain more frequently," said Tolle, lead author of the study. "On the other hand, if families are right that their loved ones did experience more pain, this raises grave concerns. Were doctors writing less pain medication for these patients, and if so, why?" Both studies used similar methods to reach participating family members through a random sampling of Oregon death certificates. Respondents were contacted two to four months after the death of their loved one. If they agreed to participate, they were interviewed by telephone. A total of 475 family members consented to take part in the initial study and 103 in the follow-up study. "One challenge we faced in gathering this data was that Oregon death certificates do not list contact information," said Hickman. "In order to find family members, we had to search publicly available records, such as obituaries. We were able to locate 51 percent of potential respondents, and just over half of these family members agreed to participate." The telephone interview included questions about advance planning, pain management and communication issues. Only the question about pain yielded changes over time, and this change was in hospitalized dying patients only. The three main causes of death in hospitalized patients were cancer, heart disease and cerebrovascular disease. OHSU's Center for Ethics in Health Care has been tracking end-of-life care markers for more than a decade. Until this study, the research suggested that end-of-life care was improving in all areas. The markers of improvement include: increased attention to advance planning, increased rates of hospice referrals, increased physician and public education about end-of-life care issues, decreased rates of in-hospital deaths, and decreased barriers to prescribing narcotics. The results of this study raise many questions,
Re: [CTRL] Background checks stopped more than 200,000 gun buys lastyear
No, I would not say that it is workingThese are basic stats, in black and white...These would reflect all rejections for no matter what reason. You could have an unpaid parking ticket and get kicked out and not be able to purchase if that is what your local authorities decide to look at. Some years back a girl I know wanted to purchase a handgun and was rejected, and was told that she was being looked for also, to her shock. What had happened was that there was another girl with the same name running around that they were looking for and they(the authorities) thought it was her trying to buy a gun. The girl then had to take her DL, birth certificate and some other forms of ID and go to the sheriffs office to get it all straightened out(massive red tape) before she was allowed to purchase. Thats one case, and another is just as simpleA local gun dealer that lives behind me went to sale a gun to someone he already new or was related to and was told to send that person immediately to them that he had some business he had to get straight, that is, he was rejected, and had to see the authorities...story isunpaid tickets...so he was refused the right to by a gun like a criminal just because he had not paid his ticket yet. So I would think that there are a lot of cases just like these out there but your anti-gun crowd will cheer on these stats as gun control working at its bestYou have to go a little deeper to get to the root cause of all these rejections, to see just what it was rejected for before grading the scores..its an uphill battle my friendsRock4Life A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Background checks stopped more than 200,000 gun buys
I have to disagree... Rock4 It's working... the system that is... slow as it may be. You speak of isolated incidences that do not occur on a grandiose scale of the gun purchasing stats. I know of people who can't even get a credit card or purchase a home because of bogus information on their credit reports that even attorneys can't seem to remove or resolve with these reporting agencies... And so what? __IT happens.Computers are only as good as those who program them. IF the information about your friends is wrong, it is a travesty, but not a tragedy. I remain an avid anti-gun control person. I believe that every law abiding citizen who has an average IQ intelligence understands that a gun can kill. But still I believe that the intelligent law abiding citizen is entitled to own and possess a gun in this country. Why? Because responsible, intelligent, law abiding people do not commit murder. And as I was taught in the military, don't aim a gun at anyone unless you aim to kill. The only reason I maintain a gun is to protect my family and my property against the ignorant bastards who haven't got the average IQ of spit and don't seem to have any value of other people's possessions or human life. What good is gun control when only ignorant illiterate criminals have the guns... ??? The idea is to eliminate THEM, if they invade the privacy and rights of law abiding citizens. IF this should ever happen, that the criminals are eliminated, there will be a lot of guns sitting in the closets collecting dust. THIS, is true gun control. eagle 1 - Original Message - From: "Rock4Life" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Background checks stopped more than 200,000 gun buys lastyear No, I would not say that it is workingThese are basic stats, in black and white...These would reflect all rejections for no matter what reason. You could have an unpaid parking ticket and get kicked out and not be able to purchase if that is what your local authorities decide to look at. Some years back a girl I know wanted to purchase a handgun and was rejected, and was told that she was being looked for also, to her shock. What had happened was that there was another girl with the same name running around that they were looking for and they(the authorities) thought it was her trying to buy a gun. The girl then had to take her DL, birth certificate and some other forms of ID and go to the sheriffs office to get it all straightened out(massive red tape) before she was allowed to purchase. Thats one case, and another is just as simpleA local gun dealer that lives behind me went to sale a gun to someone he already new or was related to and was told to send that person immediately to them that he had some business he had to get straight, that is, he was rejected, and had to see the authorities...story isunpaid tickets...so he was refused the right to by a gun like a criminal just because he had not paid his ticket yet. So I would think that there are a lot of cases just like these out there but your anti-gun crowd will cheer on these stats as gun control working at its bestYou have to go a little deeper to get to the root cause of all these rejections, to see just what it was rejected for before grading the scores..its an uphill battle my friendsRock4Life . A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Employment at the Vertical Bar Motel
From www.wsws.org WSWS : News Analysis : North America : The Brutal Society Prisons: a booming industry in the US and Europe By Joseph Delius 5 June 2000 Back to screen version For some years now, within the economically advanced countries two parallel developments have been proceeding at an increasing pace, and in reverse proportion to each other: the dismantling of social welfare systems and the expansion of the prison system. The customary justification for the billions of dollars being spent on the construction of new prisons, increases in the scope and severity of criminal justice and the introduction of new forms of punishment is that all this "serves to protect the public from violent crime". Yet most crime statistics show conclusively that the violent crime rate has declined, or at least stagnated, over the past few years. As opposed to this, the number of prison inmates who committed offences in no way violent, but intrinsically linked to poverty and social inequality, has increased dramatically. Government plans and "prison reforms" are all based on the assumption that this development will continue at an even greater pace and become a permanent feature of society. Thus, preparations are being made to accommodate a growing percentage of the population that will, at least temporarily, find itself behind prison bars. This process is becoming more and more apparent in Europe. For instance, in Germany 2.5 billion marks ($US1.25 billion) have just been allocated for the expansion of the prison system, for construction work alone (i.e., not including overhead, administrative, personnel or other operational costs). The objective is to increase prison capacity by up to 50 percent in the eastern German states, and by about 25 percent in several of the western German states. The same trend is evident in other European countries as well, particularly in Britain where current planning will require the construction of at least two dozen new prisons over the next 10 years. In France the Minister of Justice recently announced that seven new prisons will be built, and five of the largest existing prisons modernized at a total construction cost of 5.5 billion francs ($US800 million). Noteworthy as these figures are, the growth of the prison systems in Europe is still far behind that of the "world leader" in incarceration, the United States, where approximately two million people are now in prison. In other words, a country whose population makes up only 5 percent of the world's population now accounts for one quarter of all prison inmates worldwide. The prison population of the US has increased by 61 percent over the past 10 years, and is still growing. Some US states are already spending considerably more on their prison systems than on higher education. California has the highest incarceration rate in the world with over 626 prison inmates per 100,000 state residents. (By comparison, the incarceration rate in Indonesia is 21 per 100,000 inhabitants; Germany, 81; France, 84; and Britain, 94). Recent official statistics and independent studies show that California spends a total of roughly $5.6 billion dollars per year (all costs included) on its prison system, but only $4.3 billion on its schools and universities. Not that this ominous "model" has damped the fervor with which European governments and established parties are pursuing their "get tough on crime" policies. On the contrary: The competition for recognition as the harshest propagator of repressive criminal law is being fought out among them with the same intensity as their vying for acclaim as the best representative of big business interests. Crime and society In an article published May 4 in the German daily Sueddeutsche Zeitung, journalist Heribert Prantl asked Christian Pfeiffer, the director of the KFN ( Kriminologisches Forschungsinstitut Niedersachsen) crime research institute, what he saw as the underlying reasons for the expansion of the prison system in Germany. Pfeiffer's conclusions are in striking contrast to official justifications. The criminologist stated that the increase in the number of prison inmates had nothing to do with an increase in crime, but was rather a result of changes in criminal law practice. He pointed out four essential aspects of this: To begin with, the law courts had taken a much tougher approach in the second half of the 1990s. Secondly, more and more people were being incarcerated because they were not able to pay fines. This was due to the fact that courts were taking less and less account of people's financial situation, sending out court orders after the most superficial inquiries, instead of arranging for oral hearings to establish offenders' personal circumstances. The judicial system is truly blind in this respect, said Pfeiffer, only noticing when it's too late that "they've ordered an unemployed person to pay a four thousand mark fine". The third aspect Pfeiffer sees is that not only is
Re: [CTRL] Background checks stopped more than 200,000 gun buys last year
Eagle 1 Could this mean that the system IS working? MJ No. There is absolutely no possible method for determining whether or not this Constitutional violation stopped or prohibited *any* person from obtaining a gun. It might have prevented a person from purchasing a gun at a 'background' check outlet ... Alternately, why have these 200,000 violators not been persecuted (intended)? Regard$, --MJ Laws that forbid the carrying of arms ... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one. -- Thomas Jefferson quoting Cesare Beccaria, Criminologist 1764 (1743-1826) A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Prince Charles- Talking Out Of Class?
The Prince of Darkness By Dr. Gilbert Ross Continuing an almost five-century old British tradition of mixing Church and State, the Prince of Wales has again tried to reverse the tide of scientific inquiry and explorationâa move many will equate with King Canute's futile attempt to hold back the ocean tides 1,000 or so years ago. In a radio address last week, Prince Charles called for a return to spirituality as a guiding philosophy for human endeavors, with an associated downplaying of technology and science. He warned of the dangers of unrestrained scientific research and the perils of "tampering" with nature. He was inspired to pen these thoughts during a recent pilgrimage to a remote Greek monastery. Besides calling for a restoration of the "essential unity" between the living and the spiritual world, he attacked old bugaboos of his, biotechnology (genetic modification, GM) and GM food. He decided to ignore the fact that both his own government, as well as the leader of the Roman Catholic Church, Pope John Paul ll, have come out in support of this technology as a potential means to help alleviate malnutrition and starvation in the developing world. The British population has taken his warnings, as well as those of other environmental extremists, more seriously than scientists or the American publicâGM food is shunned throughout the U.K. and many areas of Europe. But they still benefit from drugs produced through the same methodsâno one has yet called for the removal of biopharmaceuticals such as insulin, and many other GM-drugs. In his speech, he supported the "precautionary principle," which advocates the elimination of any substance or technique which cannot be proven to be absolutely safe. However, it is well known scientifically that proving something 100% safe is often impossible, and essentially meaningless anyway. Is driving completely safe? Are medications completely safe? Of course notâeven crossing the street can be dangerous, yet we go about our daily activities anyway. If hundreds, or thousands, of useful products were banned because proving them "safe" would be impossible, take years, or be too expensive, what would replace them? By calling "excessive" scientific rationalism an affront to "the creator," and stating that science should be used to "understand how nature works, but not to change what it is," he seemed to be calling for a reversal of all the accomplishments of mankind, dating backwho knows how far? He assumes that there must be an inherent conflict between spirituality and scienceânever mind that scientific discoveries and technical innovations have made our lives so much better, both in quality and quantity, over the centuries. Thanks to these discoveries, those of us in the developed world are no longer at the whim of a fickle nature, hoping for adequate rain, sun, etc., to eke out a subsistence living. These benefits are, unfortunately, still not commonplace in the poor areas of Asia and Africa. Yet "environmentalists" in well-off areas, who have never been hungry or coaxed a crop out of an unforgiving field, try to cut off new methods that show great promise for easing their lives. They are against science, and seem to be against humans in favor of forests. Yet their favorite agricultural approach, "organic" farming, is so inefficient it would force much more forest acreage into cultivation than using modern methods. After reading the text of Prince Charles' speech, Dr. James Watson, Nobel Prize winning co-discoverer of the structure of DNA, stated, "He is one of the people who are worried that the world is moving too fast. But the world is really rather wretched for a lot of people and science and technology can improve their livesWe will be able to improve the quality of food." These miracle will occur in any event, but they will be here sooner if science is allowed to overcome fear and superstition in high places. It is as foolish to try to turn back the hands of time, as it is to try to reverse the tides. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: There Goes the Ozone Layer
In a message dated 06/04/2000 10:39:21 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Don't forget that the Antarctica volcano, Mt. Erebus, is a major contributor of halogens to the Antarctic atmosphere. In 1991 Mt. Erebus produced 14,600 tons of HCl and 6,600 tons of HF. ## Good information Richard. Here's a fair comparison. If we let 1 gallon of water represent the total amount of chlorine in all the CFCs ever produced by man, then all the chlorine released by the oceans and by volcanoes over the last 200 years would be represented by the water in Lake Michigan! It is such a tiny amount in comparison to the chlorine that is released by natural processes, as to be meaningless. Consider that the Ozone Layer has continued to exist for millions of years in spite of eras of high volcanic activity and in spite of the massive quantities of chlorine produced by the oceans. Now we are supposed to believe that the CFCs in spraycans and in air conditioners is "destroying the ozone". It's totally laughable, once you know the facts. Trouble is, most folks get their information and their opinions from television. If Dan Rather, and Brokaw, and Jennings say it, then it must be true. Even worse.if they don't say it, then it can't be true. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] WHAT IN THE WORLD CAN HE DO NEXT
Thank you for this. It's not happy news but it is the reality Klinton wants for us. - Original Message - From: Ronald L. Wilson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 5:55 PM Subject: [CTRL] WHAT IN THE WORLD CAN HE DO NEXT BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA A PROCLAMATION Gay and lesbian Americans have made important and lasting contributions to our Nation in every field of endeavor. Too often, however, gays and lesbians face prejudice and discrimina-tion; too many have had to hide or deny their sexual orientation in order to keep their jobs or to live safely in their communities. In recent years, we have made some progress righting these wrongs. Since the Stonewall uprising in New York City more than 30 years ago, the gay and lesbian rights movement has united gays and lesbians, their families and friends, and all those committed to justice and equality in a crusade to outlaw discriminatory laws and practices and to protect gays and lesbians from prejudice and persecution. I am proud of the part that my Administration has played to achieve these goals. Today, more openly gay and lesbian individuals serve in senior posts throughout the Federal Government than during any other Administration. To build on our progress, in 1998 I issued an Executive Order to prohibit discrimination in the Federal civilian workforce based on sexual orientation, and my Administration continues to fight for the Employment Non-Discrimination Act, which would outlaw discrimination in the workplace based on sexual orientation. Yet many challenges still lie before us. As we have learned from recent tragedies, prejudice against gays and lesbians can still erupt into acts of hatred and violence. I continue to call upon the Congress to pass meaningful hate crimes legislation to strengthen the Department of Justice's ability to prosecute hate crimes committed due to the victims sexual orientation. With each passing year the American people become more receptive to diversity and more open to those who are different from themselves. Our Nation is at last realizing that gays and lesbians must no longer be "strangers among friends," as the civil rights pioneer David Mixner once noted. Rather, we must finally recognize these Americans for what they are: our colleagues and neighbors, daughters and sons, sisters and brothers, friends and partners. This June, recognizing the joys and sorrows that the gay and lesbian movement has witnessed and the work that remains to be done, we observe Gay and Lesbian Pride Month and celebrate the progress we have made in creating a society more inclusive and accepting of gays and lesbians. I hope that in this new millennium we will continue to break down the walls of fear and prejudice and work to build a bridge to understanding and tolerance, until gays and lesbians are afforded the same rights and responsibilities as all Americans. NOW, THEREFORE, I, WILLIAM J. CLINTON, President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim June 2000 as Gay and Lesbian Pride Month. I encourage all Americans to observe this month with appropriate programs, ceremonies, and activities that celebrate our diversity and recognize the gay and lesbian Americans whose many and varied contributions have enriched our national life. IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this second day of June, in the year of our Lord two thousand, and of the Independence of the United States of America the two hundred and twenty-fourth. WILLIAM J. CLINTON
Re: [CTRL] Employment at the Vertical Bar Motel
In a message dated 06/05/2000 5:35:27 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The ruthless dismantling of social welfare systems and the effects of global capitalism have dramatically changed the lives of millions of people. Many who previously just managed to get by on the fringes of the "social network" are now faced with destitution. ### This is a pre-planned process. This is a long-term process. In brief, here is how it works. For illustration, we'll use the United States starting in 1928. 1. The total tax burden on the average middleclass family is 3% of annual income. (Most families are single-income families). 2. There are virtually no federally funded "social programs". There are very few state funded "social programs". 3. Most adult Americans are highly self-suficient. Healthcare and dental care is affordable. Most families can afford to go to their family doctors and they can afford to go to the hospital. 4. Most Americans can afford to save money. The national savings rate is far higher than it will be 60 or 70 years later. 5. A high percentage of Americans can afford to buy a home. The "owner occupancy rate" is far higher than it will be 60 years later when many people will live in apartment houses and other rental properties. 6. Most Americans are relatively debt free (excluding home mortgages). Then, in the 1930s, the Federal government comes forward with many new "social programs". The government launches programs which offer to help people do the above listed things which they have traditionally done for themselves. These various programs begin at a modest level. But as time passes and people get used to the idea of "social programs", more and more such programs are added and expanded. Of course the government must increase taxes to pay for all of this. The people gripe about the taxes, but they have grown to embrace the "free" federal programs. Over a period of 2 generations the situation has changed dramatically. In the year 1998: 1. The total tax burden on the average middle-class family is over 50% of annual income. (Most families are now dual-income families). 2. There are almost countless federally funded "social programs". There are many state funded "social programs". 3. Most adult Americans are highly dependent on the government. Healthcare and dental care are not affordable. Most families can't afford to go to their family doctors and they can't afford to go to the hospital without expensive health and medical insurance coverage. 4. Most Americans can't afford to save money. The national savings rate is the lowest since records have been kept. 5. A high percentage of Americans can't afford to buy a home. The "owner occupancy rate" is far lower than it was 50 years ago. 6. Most Americans are in debt. (Even when excluding home mortgages). MOST PEOPLE HAVE BECOME HIGHLY DEPENDENT ON THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. ONE IN EVERY FOUR PEOPLE IS RECEIVING FUNDS FROM THE GOVERNMENT IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER. ABOUT HALF THE SCHOOL CHILDREN IN THE COUNTRY ARE GETTING "FREE" OR REDUCED-PRICE SCHOOL LUNCHES WHICH ARE GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIZED. MILLIONS LIVE IN GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIZED HOUSING. AT THIS POINT THE TRAP IS SPRUNG!!! NOW COMES THE "RUTHLESS DISMANTLING OF SOCIAL WELFARE SYSTEMS." BUT HERE IS THE REALLY CRUEL AND INSIDIOUS PART OF THE PLAN. THE HIGH TAX STRUCTURE PUT INTO PLACE TO PAY FOR THESE PROGRAMS IS KEPT IN PLACE. NOW THE PEOPLE ARE TRAPPED. THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY FOR ALL THE "FREE" THINGS THE GOVERNMENT WAS PROVIDING FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE STILL PAYING HALF OF THEIR INCOME TO THE GOVERNMENT. NOW THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR MONEY TO PROVIDE FOR THEMSELVESAND THEY DON'T HAVE THE "FREE" GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS EITHER!! THIS PLAN IS MUCH FURTHER ADVANCED IN CANADA THAN IN THE UNITED STATES. UNFORTUNATELY, WE ARE RAPIDLY CATCHING UP. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives
[CTRL] =?x-unknown?q?_Tripp=3A_I=92ll_Subpoena_Everybody?=
Tripp: Ill Subpoena Everybody NewsMax.com Monday, June 5, 2000 Her indictment for illegally taping her phone conversations with Monica Lewinsky now dismissed, Linda Tripp plans to break her long silence and tell the world what she knows. And she knows plenty, especially about the death of the late Vincent Foster. As the last person in the White House to see Foster alive before his body was found later that day at Ft. Marcy Park, Tripp said he left his office without his briefcase, contradicting counsel office aide Tom Castleton who had claimed that Foster taken the briefcase with him The brief case magically reappeared in his office after his death. As reported in NewsMax.com on July, 1998, Tripp, along with Foster's personal secretary Deborah Gorham, had a front seat view of the chaos in the counsel's office when a note alleged to be written by Foster materialized in his briefcase; a development used by the White House to support the claim that his death had been a suicide. When Patsy Thomasson and Bernard Nussbaum (Tripp's boss) had searched Foster's briefcase on July 20 and 22 respectively, the note wasn't there. Tripp and Gorham knew something was up when, on July 26, Nussbaum's assistant Cliff Sloan asked Tripp for a typewriter despite the fact that the counsel's office was chock full of computer word processors. No typewriter was readily available, Tripp explained. On the morning of the 27th, Nussbaum questioned Gorham about whether she had noticed anything in Foster's briefcase. Gorham described Nussbaum's grilling as "very forceful and adamant," saying the meeting felt like an "interrogation." Unbeknownst to Tripp and Gorham, 27 shreds of paper the White House would claim was Foster's suicide note had been "discovered" in the briefcase the day before. Nussbaum waited thirty hours before informing the Park Police on the 28th. It was a handwritten note with no traceable fingerprints. Investigators working for Robert Fiske and Kenneth Starr have ruled the note was authentic. But three independent handwriting experts, one of worldwide renown, determined in 1995 that it was a forgery. ``If I continue to remain silent, they win,'' Tripp told an audience in South Carolina, according to the Associated Press. Tripp has shied away from public appearances, leaving it up to her attorneys to speak for her, but shes now ready to have her say. ``I am not a public person. All this is very difficult for me,'' she said. First on her agenda is her lawsuit against the White House and the Defense Department, charging that her privacy rights were violated when officials leaked information about her from confidential government records to reporters. A Pentagon inspector general's report concluded that Defense Department spokesman Kenneth Bacon and his then-chief deputy, Clifford H. Bernath violated Tripp's privacy rights by providing information from her security clearance records to Jane Mayer, a reporter for The New Yorker magazine. Although the inspector general found that both Bacon and Bernath broke the law the Justice Department refused to prosecute the men. Bacon got off with a reprimand from Defense Secretary William Cohen. Tripp however, vowed she will not let the matter rest. ``In the next few weeks, we will be subpoenaing every national name you can imagine in the White House,'' she said. ``It really is up to the civil process to hold them accountable.'' = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To
[CTRL] Court Dismisses Hubbell Charge
Court Dismisses Hubbell Charge Updated 10:51 AM ET June 5, 2000 By LAURIE ASSEO, Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON (AP) - The Supreme Court today handed presidential friend Webster Hubbell a victory that wipes out his guilty plea to a misdemeanor tax charge. The justices' 8-1 ruling said prosecutors could not use financial documents against Hubbell that he was forced to produce under a limited grant of immunity. Using the documents would violate his protection against self-incrimination under the Constitution's Fifth Amendment, the justices said. Hubbell pleaded guilty to the tax charge last year on condition his plea would be dismissed if the Supreme Court ruled in his favor on whether the documents could be used. Today, the nation's highest court ordered the charge against him dismissed. "The documents did not magically appear in the prosecutor's office like 'manna from heaven,"' Justice John Paul Stevens wrote for the court. "They arrived there only after (Hubbell) asserted his constitutional privilege, received a grant of immunity" and provided the documents. "We have no doubt that the constitutional privilege against self-incrimination protects the target of a grand jury investigation from being compelled to answer questions designed to elicit information about the existence of sources of potentially incriminating evidence," Stevens wrote. Hubbell had reached the plea agreement with former independent counsel Kenneth Starr, who was replaced by Robert W. Ray last October. Hubbell was the former No. 3 official at the Justice Department early in President Clinton's first term and has been a friend of the president and his wife Hillary Rodham Clinton since their Arkansas days. The misdemeanor tax charge alleged that Hubbell evaded paying taxes on some of the hundreds of thousands of dollars in income he received from friends of the Clintons in 1994 during an earlier investigation by Starr. The tax charge, filed in April 1998, was based partly on Hubbell's financial papers that he was required to give prosecutors under a limited grant of immunity. Although the Fifth Amendment protects criminal defendants from being forced to testify against themselves, it does not protect the contents of private documents someone created voluntarily. However, the amendment does protect people from being forced to give such documents to prosecutors, because that usually involves confirming their existence and authenticity - a form of testimony. Therefore, immunity generally must be given to people being forced to turn over documents. Hubbell argued that prosecutors could not use his papers to prosecute him after giving him immunity. A federal judge agreed and dismissed the charges. The U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia revived the charges in January 1999 but said Starr's office could use information from them only by showing prosecutors had "reasonably particular knowledge" of their existence. Starr's office conceded it could not meet that standard and agreed to dismiss Hubbell's plea if the Supreme Court upheld the appeals court's ruling. In appealing to the Supreme Court, prosecutors said they should be allowed to use the documents' contents so long as they did not try to show the information came from Hubbell. Prosecutors also argued that Hubbell had no Fifth Amendment protection against producing the documents in the first place. People can be forced to turn over documents without immunity if the government already knows they exist, because prosecutors would not need the person's confirmation of their existence. Prosecutors in Hubbell's case said routine financial records count as documents whose existence is a foregone conclusion. Hubbell's lawyers argued that the grant of immunity meant the documents he turned over were "hopelessly tainted" and could not be used as evidence. Today, the Supreme Court agreed with Hubbell. "Here the government has not shown that it had any prior knowledge of either the existence or the whereabouts of the 13,120 pages of documents ultimately produced" by Hubbell, Stevens said. "The government cannot cure this deficiency through the overbroad argument that a businessman ... will always possess general business and tax records." Stevens' opinion was joined by Justices Sandra Day O'Connor, Antonin Scalia, Anthony M. Kennedy, David H. Souter, Clarence Thomas, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen G. Breyer. Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist dissented, saying he agreed with a judge who dissented from the federal appeals court decision. Not affected by today's case is Hubbell's guilty plea to a felony charge involving legal work for a savings and loan at the center of the Whitewater investigation. He was sentenced to a year of probation on that charge in June 1999. Hubbell previously served 16 months in prison for bilking his former Arkansas law firm and its clients. That charge resulted from the earlier investigation by Starr.
[CTRL] NM: Justice Department's Corruption
Newsmax-May 31, 2000 Justice Department's Corruption By Paul Craig Roberts If you were a U.S. attorney general confronting possibly the biggest presidential scandal in American history and the FBI director strongly advised you to recuse yourself from the investigation because of a conflict of interest, would you ever forget such a tense and dramatic moment? On May 19, Attorney General Janet Reno said, "I don't have a recollection" of FBI Director Louis J. Freeh advising her, face to face, to recuse herself from the Clinton-Gore-Chinese campaign finance scandal. The collective amnesia of the Clinton administration is a wondrous thing. It makes you wonder how these people find their way to work in the morning. Also suffering from memory loss is Lee Radek. Radek spearheads Reno's cover-up of the scandal. Radek doesn't recall telling two senior FBI officials that he was "under a lot of pressure" to cover up the scandal, because Reno's job "hangs in the balance." But FBI Deputy Director William J. Esposito and Assistant Director Neil J. Gallagher haven't lost their memory. Both confirm that Radek made the statements that he doesn't recall. Radek's memory has failed him altogether. He can't recall why he assigned the important investigation of the role played by Chinese government money in the 1996 U.S. presidential election to an unqualified and inexperienced prosecutor, who promptly disorganized the investigation. Neither can Radek explain why he issued a "cease and desist" order to the U.S. attorney in Los Angeles, who was nailing down Vice President Gore's role in the illegal fund raising. Nor can Radek give a reason for his order blocking FBI agents from seizing evidence of the scandal before it could be destroyed. There is no doubt whatsoever that the DOJ has been obstructing justice. In fact, the situation is so serious and so explosive that the DOJ has called on the departmental loyalty of former Republican Justice Department officials to quiet the waters and keep the cover-up from being investigated by a subsequent administration. "People might lose confidence in the government," they implore, as if anyone has a drop of confidence in the DOJ. In a recent speech at Hillsdale College, U.S. Rep. Bob Barr, R-Ga., a former U.S. attorney, blames the politicization of the DOJ on Bill Clinton. As Latin Americans are fond of saying, "When corruption begins at the top, everything falls into decay." Conservatives used to emphasize the importance of Supreme Court appointments as the reason for voting Republican. Today, they emphasize cleaning up the Department of Justice. In the June 5 issue of National Review, Byron York says that everyone believes that the biggest task of the next administration is cleaning out the DOJ. Griffin Bell, who was attorney general in the Carter administration, says "it would be better to have a Republican" win the next presidential election. "Then, you can just change everybody." If only it were that simple. Unfortunately, the corruption in the DOJ goes deeper than personnel. The very concept of law that protects us from tyranny has been lost. No longer the people's shield, law has become a weapon in the hands of government. As Lawrence M. Stratton and I show in our just published book, "The Tyranny of Good Intentions," each of the legal principles that protect us from arbitrary and abusive government power has been eroded by ambitious prosecutors, inattentive judges and juries, and legal theories inimical to our legal heritage. William Blackstone called these protective principles "the Rights of Englishmen." They are the attorney-client privilege, due process, habeas corpus, equal standing in law with no group having status-based privileges, and the prohibitions against retroactive law, crimes without intent, self-incrimination and bills of attainder. It was not the corrupt Clinton administration that undermined these rights. The attorney-client privilege was undermined by Assistant Attorney General Stuart M. Gerson in a Republican administration, when he justified an asset freeze to coerce the blue-chip Wall Street law firm Kaye, Scholer, Fierman, Hays Handler to pay a $41 million fine for refusing to snitch on a client. It was not the corrupt Clinton administration that criminalized the Exxon Valdez accident, or brought a bill of attainder against Charles Keating, or created retroactive liability with Superfund or vitiated the 1964 Civil Rights Act by imposing illegal racial quotas. It was not the Clinton administration that initiated the vile practices of confiscating people's assets without indicting and convicting them of a crime and paying criminals to concoct testimony against people targeted by prosecutors. It wasn't Clinton who resurrected torture and self-incrimination with coerced plea bargains. The corruption of DOJ personnel is a reflection of the corruption of law. The Justice Department cannot be restored until the law is.
[CTRL] 5 Branch Davidians' sentences set aside
5 Branch Davidians' sentences set aside By Richard Carelli, Associated Press, 6/5/2000 10:54 WASHINGTON (AP) The Supreme Court today set aside the lengthy prison sentences given to five Branch Davidians who survived a 1993 siege at the sect's Waco, Texas, compound. The court ruled that a federal judge misused an anti-gun law to increase their punishment. The unanimous decision makes it harder for courts to find lawbreakers deserve extra time behind bars because they used or carried machine guns during their crimes. A federal law subjects anyone who used or carried a ''firearm'' during a violent or drug-related crime to five years in prison. The term jumps to 30 years for anyone who used or carried a ''machine gun'' during that same crime. Federal appeals courts had split on whether determining use of a machine gun is an element of the offense a jury must find beyond a reasonable doubt, or merely a sentencing factor a judge gets to determine by a preponderance of the evidence. The nation's highest court said use of a firearm must be determined by the jury. ''We believe Congress intended the firearm type-related words it used ... to refer to an element of a separate, aggravated crime,'' Justice Stephen G. Breyer wrote for the court. Five Davidians were convicted in 1994 in the killings of four federal agents during a botched Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms raid on the compound outside Waco. The raid led to a 51-day standoff that ended when flames swept through the compound. David Koresh and some 80 followers died during the inferno, some from the fire and others from gunshot wounds. A federal jury acquitted the five Davidians of murder and conspiracy-to-murder charges but convicted them of voluntary manslaughter. Each was sentenced to 10 years in prison for that conviction. The jury also found them guilty of using firearms. The presiding judge tacked on 30-year sentences for four of them and a 10-year sentence for the fifth after finding that each had used a machine gun. Renos Avraam, Brad Eugene Branch, Jaime Castillo and Kevin Whitecliff drew the 30-year sentences; Graeme Craddock the 10-year term. Craddock also was sentenced to a consecutive 10 years for using a hand grenade. The jury never had been asked to determine what types of firearms the five had used. The judge made that determination during sentencing. In appealing their sentences, the Davidians relied heavily on a decision in which the justices last year said carjackers cannot be given tougher sentences unless a jury, not a judge, determines that victims were seriously injured during that federal crime. The case presumably will return to a federal trial court where new sentencing hearings will be conducted. Today's decision did not suggest appropriate new sentences. The case is Castillo vs. U.S., 99-658. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: The Price of Progress
Smog May Induce Heart Attacks LOS ANGELES (AP) - Smog apparently doesn't hurt just your lungs: New scientific research suggests that even moderate smog may induce sudden death in people with existing heart problems. The newfound evidence, culled from more than a dozen studies on humans and animals, shows that tiny pieces of soot called particulates may alter the heart rate in some people, the Los Angeles Times reported Monday. The link has not yet been proven, but there is a strong likelihood that the particles cause the heart problems, possibly indicating air pollution poses a greater public health threat than previously thought, the newspaper said. Heart disease is the top killer in the United States, responsible for about half of all deaths. At smog levels found in many U.S. cities, the inhalation of particulates can disrupt a person's ability to regulate the pumping of blood. The threat is particularly severe for older people who have arrhythmia, a condition marked by an irregular heartbeat. ``When particulate pollution increases, the heart rate seems to go up a little bit and the variability in the heart rate seems to go down. Those are things classically seen (in people) with heart failure,'' said Dr. Timothy Denton, a cardiologist at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles. ``Studies suggest that people are dying relatively rapidly after you see an increase in particles. Sometimes it's within 24 hours,'' said Robert Devlin of the Environmental Protection Agency's clinical research branch. Changes in heart rhythm that occur after breathing particulates are subtle on an electrocardiogram and do not affect healthy people. Arden Pope, an epidemiologist at Brigham Young University, said ``it's incredibly good news'' if the link can be proven. ``We already know that about half of us die of cardiopulmonary disease, and if this is true about particulates, we have found a preventable cause,'' Pope said.
[CTRL] Fwd: The Dot-Com Economy Downloads
In Europe, "dot-coms" are going belly-up, and starry-eyed high-tech yuppies are hocking their laptops to pay the rent, in record numbers, as the global stock market tightens up and scales down. That shock wave is already hitting US shores. "Merrill Lynch forecasts that as many as 75% of today's Net companies will fail. " 'The number of people [losing their investments or their jobs] will be bigger than any of us imagine. People have been dreading this moment for so long ...' '' Business Week: June 12, 2000 News: Analysis Commentary: The Tech Economy It's Layoff Time in Dot-Com Land Call the offices of toysmart.com, one of the latest Net companies to go belly-up, and you will hear a recording giving directions for employers aiming to recruit the company's staff. Activated just two days after toysmart's May 22 announcement that it was shutting down, the recording came in reaction to an avalanche of calls from 200 companies looking to scoop up toysmart's 170 employees. ``It was either put that up or my assistant was going to kill herself,'' jokes CEO David N. Lord. A laughing CEO is about the last thing you would expect to find at the helm of a company gone bust. But 36-year-old Lord exemplifies the optimism many Net employees still feel, despite the carnage now coursing through the dot-coms. ``I think 75% of our people will end up in tech startups or next stage companies,'' says Lord. Heck, he expects to join another dot-com before too long himself. TEMPORARY. It's layoff time in dot-com land--and like everything else that has taken place in that sometimes unreal world, the experience bears little resemblance to its counterpart in the brick-and-mortar universe. Even as many once-optimistic dot-coms shed employees to cut costs or file for bankruptcy as they run out of funds altogether, many Net employees are still willing to stay in the game. Betting that the downturn is only temporary, they figure that the initial-public-offering market will open up again, and that venture capitalists, still flush with cash and in need of investments, will keep the funds flowing. Is this a smart bet? Clearly, the sector has only felt the very first stings of digital Darwinism. As investors increasingly demand profits, dot-coms are being forced to ax bloated marketing budgets and prune overstaffed operations. To date, that pressure has been felt only by the predictable weak sisters of the sector, such as drkoop.com, which has laid off 35% of its staff since April, and living.com, where 13% of workers lost their jobs in May. But most analysts say there are many more cutbacks, layoffs, and bankruptcies to come. Indeed, Merrill Lynch Co.'s Henry M. Blodget forecasts that as many as 75% of today's Net companies will fail. ``The number of people getting pink slips will be bigger than any of us imagine,'' warns Tuck Rickards, executive director at recruiter Russell Reynolds Associates Inc. In the face of such predictions, even those dot-coms that are not running out of money tomorrow now feel the need to increase fiscal discipline. Many are reassessing budget decisions and staffing levels set six to eight months ago, when cash was plentiful. Portal AltaVista Co., for instance, fired 5% of its workforce in May in order to improve its still-pending projected profitability in advance of its initial public offering. ``People have been dreading this moment for so long; the economy has been so good,'' says Lorin Kalisky, director of content and communications at AirTreks.com, an online travel service. This lesson, however, is not being lost on erstwhile Kool-Aid-quaffing dot-com devotees. They too are exercising a lot more discipline as they look for dot-com jobs. Most of those with some experience are no longer willing to sign on with long-shot Net operations, even though those have brought the biggest return in the sector's favorite currency: stock options. Well aware that getting rich quick on a Net IPO may now be more the exception than the rule, employees are demanding more assurances. They are asking for better severance and benefits packages and are doing due diligence on management and funding of dot-coms. They are also looking for safe havens. Suddenly, companies that offer profitable balance sheets, such as Yahoo! and eBay, or the online units of Old Economy giants, are far more attractive, even though they provide far less opportunity to strike it rich. In the past, these companies, with their established big valuations, didn't have much allure for those hoping to make a quick killing with stock options or with an IPO. Now, eBay Inc. and Yahoo Inc. say they have had an uptick in the number or the quality of potential recruits. ``It's a very challenging market--don't get me wrong. Frankly, there were people we couldn't get three months ago who are returning our calls now,'' says Rebecca Guerra, eBay's vice-president for human resources. NOT THE SAME. Moreover, when it comes to
[CTRL] Fwd: Corporate Pension Scam Catches On
"Corporations are hailing the many advantages to converting pensions to a cash balance plan, but an independent analysis showed that less than half of companies save any more than 5 percent in pension costs by making such a switch." " 'Cost reduction was not what a majority of the plans were trying to achieve.' ' Congress Hears Complaints On Pensions By CURT ANDERSON WASHINGTON (AP) - A 28-year electric utility employee told Congress the company's conversion to a new cash-balance pension plan will cost him $400,000 in benefits, which he said is evidence the popular plans discriminate against older workers. ``For me, this is a very serious loss,'' James Bruggeman, 51, of the Central and South West Corp. in Tulsa, Okla., told the Senate Aging Committee. ``It may very well change my retirement plans. I would have to work several more years to make up the loss.'' Bruggeman said that because of his long service, retirement benefits he expected under the company's previous traditional pension plan would have been 30 percent higher than under the new plan. And due to what's known as ``wearaway,'' the initial cash balance in his new pension account was $56,000 less than the equivalent lump sum in the old one and will require two years to recoup. ``It seems to me that something somebody is entitled to is lost,'' said Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, chairman of the panel. Similar complaints have been raised by hundreds of veteran employees around the country as more than 450 companies converted to the new plans. The plans frequently save employers money and provide younger workers with pensions that are more flexible, easier to carry from job to job and simpler to administer. Advocates for older people, however, say they violate anti-discrimination laws because, in cases like Bruggeman's, promised pension benefits are reduced for workers with long service. ``There is very definitely, for an older worker, less accumulation than there is for a younger worker,'' said Joseph Perkins, immediate past president of the AARP. ``We worry about the fact that it's the older worker who gets the raw end of the deal.'' Several bills have been introduced in Congress on the issue, some focusing on greater disclosure of how changes would affect individual workers and others requiring that companies give workers greater choice between new and old plans. In addition, several Clinton administration agencies are trying to determine if age discrimination laws are being violated. Industry representatives told the Aging Committee of many advantages to cash balance plans and said they don't inherently discriminate against older employees. An analysis by Watson Wyatt Worldwide Inc., a leading human resources consultant, showing that only about 45 percent of companies it studied saved greater than 5 percent in pension costs by making the switch. ``Cost reduction was not what a majority of the plans were trying to achieve,'' said Sylvester Schieber, Watson Wyatt's research director. Laurel Sweatt, benefits manager for Dallas-based CSW - the company Bruggeman works for - said the company took several steps to ``minimize any detrimental impact'' when it switched to the new plan. These included a choice between the new and old plans for employees who were 50 years old and had 10 years of service and an addition of 13 percent in base pay to accounts of workers who were over 40 and had at least five years' service. Some witnesses testified that more laws and regulations might force some companies to drop pensions altogether and continue a downward trend that has seen such benefits drop from 114,000 companies in 1985 to 44,000 today. ``We continue to believe that it is up to employers to decide what retirement strategy works best for them,'' said John Woyke, an attorney testifying on behalf of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.
Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:
From: "Nicky Molloy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm sorry to have to tell you this No you're not... but really this is tiring and its a darn less boring than reading you saying the same confudsed comments every post. "Confudsed"? If you can't/won't grasp the situation and get your own information which is readily available on the net, I can't help you. You are the one who is presumably 'confused' Sure, there is loads of 'information' on the Internet. But information is not necessarily EVIDENCE. And very often it is disinformation. Provide evidence that there aren't aliens here because if you investigate, there is more evidence that there is company down in underground bases than not. You are asking us to prove a negative. Prove that I did NOT shoot JFK. Prove that I did NOT have a torrid affair with Jacques Vallee, whose whispered pillowtalk to me revealed all the secrets of UFOs that he knew... not to mention some interesting gossip regarding Mr. Webre... Prove that I was NOT at Woodstock in August of 1969... Prove that I did NOT walk on the moon with Neil Armstrong that same month... There is absolutely NO 'evidence' supporting what you purport to be FACT... there IS information, of various degrees of credibility. But again, information is not necessarily EVIDENCE. I"ve been studying the situation for at least 10 years, and have personal experiences Can you prove that they were NOT hallucinations? Can you prove that they were NOT the effects of mind control? and know UNTOLD others who have had dealings with Ets. The same questions apply to these 'untold others'. And unless you're claiming to have had dealings with these same ETs, all you have is hearsay. I could tell you that I and untold others have been repeatedly abducted by motorcycle gangsor Arab terrorists...or Satanists... or leprechauns... How would you know that our claims were NOT true? If there are 6 billion people on this planet, untold thousands of UFOs flying about and still we stubbornly believe we are the only planet inhabited in this solar system, No one has said that. What we are saying is that you and the other 'true believers' have yet to present any HARD EVIDENCE to support the claim that UFOs are powered by ETs... And tell me...of all the "billions and billions" (to borrow Carl Sagan's famous phrase) of planets not only in our own solar system, but throughout the universe...why have your supposed ETs chosen this measly planet? What is it about Earth and/or homo sapiens that intrigues them so much that they ignore all the other planets and concentrate on this one? and any of these UFOs out there could have colonized the whole solar system by now, "Could have" isn't the same as "did". CASE CLOSED You failed to even successfully open it. Well tenebroust, I guess the reason Commander X, Branton etc use non de plumes is because are in danger of their lives. And you have EVIDENCE to support this claim? ;-) I notice you failed to respond to this. What's the matter...ET got your tongue? Or is it because you DON'T have any evidence to back up this claim? They were intelligence officers and we don't really need to know their personal details. Yes we do, if we are to adequately and accurately assess their credibility. Again, no answer. You take the coward's way out by responding by attacking those who question you, because you know you can't back up any of your claims. You also failed to address my question as to why these supposed ex-intelligence officers aren't being silenced by either their ex-comrades-in-arms, or by the ETs themselves. Are your ETs that ineffectual? Or is it because these supposed ex-intelligence officers are really LYING... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send
[CTRL] Internet privacy: UK Europe
From: http://www.observer.co.uk/focus/story/0,6903,328071,00.html Your Privacy Ends Here! When you wake on Thursday 5 October next, you will find yourself living in a different country. An ancient bulwark of English law - the principle that someone is presumed innocent until proven guilty - will have been overturned. And that is just for starters. From that date also the police and security services will enjoy sweeping powers to snoop on your email traffic and web use without let or hindrance from the Commissioner for Data Protection. Every UK internet service provider (ISP) will have to install a black box which monitors all the data-traffic passing through its computers, hard-wired to a special centre currently being installed in MI5's London headquarters. This new mass surveillance facility is called the Government Technical Assistance Centre (GTAC). Who said Jack Straw had no sense of humour? The Regulation of Investigatory Powers (RIP) Bill which is now before the Lords gives the Home Secretary powers of interception and surveillance which would be the envy of the most draconian regime. In addition to encroaching on civil liberties, the same Bill will also drive hordes of e-commerce companies from Britain to countries like Ireland where their encryption keys - extended pin numbers allowing users to decipher jumbled data - will be protected from government prying. An administration which complains continually about making Britain 'the most e-friendly country in the world' by 2002 is busily making sure that exactly the opposite happens. How has this extraordinary state of affairs come about? Is it another manifestation of the cock-up theory of history, or are there more sinister forces at work? The answer is a bit of both. For some time, it has been obvious to Ministers and civil servants that British law needed updating to cope with the internet. In an era when online trading becomes ubiquitous, for example, some way has to be found of making 'digital signatures' legally valid. Accordingly, a special Cabinet Office unit headed by Professor Jim Norton set to work to devise a new legislative framework for the emerging world of e-commerce and online communications. The main result of his labour was the Electronic Commerce Bill. As that Bill went through its Parliamentary hoops, it became clear that some parts of it - mainly the sections dealing with data encryption, interception and surveillance - were so deeply flawed that they threatened to sink the Bill. Given the Government's desire to make headway on the e-commerce front, the problematic sections were eventually jettisoned and the Electronic Commerce Bill became law in 1999. It was a smart decision, but it left unresolved the problem of what to do about the encryption stuff. The DTI, smarting from its bruising at the hands of the computer scientists who had comprehensively shredded the original encryption proposals, wanted nothing more to do with it. Accordingly the poisoned chalice passed to the Home Office, which knows little of business and even less about the internet, but is endlessly attentive to the needs of the police, the security services and the Byzantine imperatives of official secrecy. The RIP Bill is the fruit of that secretive bureaucratic milieu. The official rationale for the legislation is that it is required to bring UK law into conformance with the European Convention on Human Rights. In the end, this will have to be tested in the courts, but Straw's confidence is not shared by the Commons Trade Industry Select Committee which last October recommended that the Government publish a detailed analysis to substantiate its confidence that the Bill does not contravene the Convention. This the Government has so far declined to do. The Bill has four main parts. The first deals with the interception of communications. the second covers 'surveillance and covert human intelligence sources'. The third tackles encryption and the fourth covers the 'scrutiny of investigatory powers and of the functions of the intelligence services'. Parts I to III propose massive extensions of the state's powers to spy on its citizens while the fourth suggests a regulatory regime which seems laughably inadequate to anyone familiar with internet technology. All sections of the Bill have been heavily criticised by external experts and a small number of committed MPs, but the legislation has passed through its Commons scrutiny with its central provisions intact. Part I gives the Home Secretary the power to issue a warrant requiring ISPs to intercept the communications of one or more of their subscribers. The problem is that the internet is not like the telephone system - where it is technically feasible to tap into a particular individual's communications link. In order to monitor a person's internet traffic, you have to tap into all the traffic running through his or her ISP. As a result, the expectation is that Part I of the Bill will be
Re: [CTRL] WHAT IN THE WORLD CAN HE DO NEXT
And if elected President, I declare the other 11 months to be Straight Pride Month!! Tenorlove Do I have to do EVERYTHING myself!? __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] JW: Flash! COURT ORDERS E-MAIL SEARCH IN FILEGATE CASE
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COURT ORDERS E-MAIL SEARCH IN FILEGATE CASE
Closing In On The Clinton-Gore White House E-Mail Scandal
(Washington, DC) Today the United States District Court for the
District of Columbia issued a preliminary search of e-mail in the
Filegate case. The parameters of the search will include e-mails
concerning Hillary Rodham Clinton, Vincent Foster, Bernard
Nussbaum, Craig Livingstone, Anthony Marceca, Bill Kennedy,
Marsha Scott, Betsy Pond, Deborah Gorham, Linda Tripp, Mari
Anderson, George Stephanopoulos, Harold Ickes, Margaret Williams,
Lisa Wetzl, Jonathan Denbo, Edward Hughes, Jane Dannenhauer,
Nancy Gemmell, Jane Sherburne, Terry Good, Christine Varney, John
Libonati, Jeff Undercoffer, Arnie Cole, Cheryl Mills, Stephen
Waudby, Michael McCurry, Joseph Lockhart, Sidney Blumenthal,
Bruce Lindsey, Charles Ruff, and President William Clinton.
Judicial Watch uncovered the burgeoning e-mail scandal in its
Filegate lawsuit.
A copy of the Court's Orders can be found at Judicial Watch's
website at www.JudicialWatch.org.
"Importantly, the Clinton-Gore White House has twenty days to
produce these documents," stated Judicial Watch Chairman and
General Counsel Larry Klayman.
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IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
FULL OPINION: http://www.judicialwatch.org/otherserver/emailorder.htm
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CARA ALEXANDER, et al.
Plaintiffs,
vs.
FEDERAL BUREAU OF
INVESTIGATION, et al.,
Defendants.
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JOHN MICHAEL GRIMLEY, et al.
Plaintiffs,
vs.
FEDERAL BUREAU OF
INVESTIGATION, et al.,
Defendants.
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) Civil Action Nos. 96-2123/97-1288 (RCL)
MEMORANDUM OPINION
This matter comes before the court on Plaintiffs' Supplemental
Brief to their Motion to Compel the Production of Documents
Regarding their Second Request to the Executive Office of the
President ("EOP") Regarding ARMS E-mail. This court issued a
prior ruling, on May 17, 2000, on the Plaintiffs' Motion to
Compel the Production of Documents. In that order, however, the
court deferred on the plaintiffs' requests as to e-mails and hard
drives. The parties then filed supplemental memoranda regarding
the plaintiffs' request for an ARMS search of e-mail. Upon
consideration of these memoranda, and the reply and surreply
thereto, the court will GRANT IN PART AND DENY IN PART the
plaintiffs' request for an ARMS e-mail search, as discussed and
ordered below. The court will continue to DEFER on the
plaintiffs' requests for hard drives and those e-mails that are
not archived on the ARMS system.
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Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:
From: "Samantha L." [EMAIL PROTECTED] It isn't the intellect alone that is equips us with discernment. The personal accounts of such people as Whitley Strieber, Betty Andreasson Lucas and others, including those accounts outlined in John Mack, M.D.'s books are quite moving and compelling. Agreed. Their various accounts perhaps do point to contact with extraterrestial beings. But there could be other explanations as well, and we would be well served to constantly keep that in mind. What Strieber, Lucas, et al have experienced could perhaps be what manipulators behind the scenes WISH them to believe they experienced. Smoke and mirrors. Don't concentrate on the magic trick on stage, look for who's pulling the strings and pushing the buttons behind the curtain... As a side note: Betty Andreasson Lucas now lives in my homestate of Connecticut, and has written about strange occurances happening around where she lives. I TOO have had strange occurances happen in the same neck of the woods. But in my case, while the events/sensations were strange, I never attributed what I saw or heard to beings from outer space, but suspect the occurances originated from the military -- there IS an Air National Guard station in the area... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Ritalin Market Soars
"The researchers found that problems such as attention deficit disorder, depression and learning disabilities have more than doubled from 1979 to 1996." Kids' Behavioral Problems Said Soar By LINDSEY TANNER .c The Associated Press CHICAGO (AP) - New research suggests that the number of U.S. youngsters with emotional and behavioral problems soared in the past two decades, in part because of more poor and single-parent households. The findings, echoing other recent studies, are based on surveys of pediatricians on more than 21,000 patients. The researchers said it is not a case of doctors getting better at recognizing and diagnosing emotional and behavioral problems. Instead, they said there is a real increase in such problems among youngsters. The researchers found that problems such as attention deficit/hyperactivity disorder, depression and learning disabilities more than doubled from 1979 to 1996. Such conditions were identified in 6.8 percent of all doctor visits in 1979 and in 18.7 percent of visits in 1996. Differences in doctor training in identifying such problems did not account for the increases, said Dr. Kelly Kelleher of the University of Pittsburgh and Children's Hospital of Pittsburgh, the study's lead author. In fact, the highest identification rates were for doctors who trained in the 1970s and before. The findings suggest instead that most of the change was due to ``an increase in problems and the kinds of patients they're seeing,'' said Kelleher, whose study appears in the June issue of the journal Pediatrics. The changes were associated with increases in the proportions of single-parent families and Medicaid enrollment from 1979 to 1996, the researchers said. Fifteen percent of patients in the 1979 study lived in single-parent homes, compared with 22 percent in the 1996 study. Just 6 percent of the earlier patients were on Medicaid, compared with 18 percent of the 1996 patients. However, pediatricians are geared primarily to deal with ``acute'' problems in which ``children come in, the doctor gives them medicine, the children go away,'' Kelleher said. Doctors will be ineffective unless the system is restructured to allow pediatricians to act more like mental-health professionals and spend more time with chronic ailments, he said. The authors examined data from a 1979 survey of 30 Rochester, N.Y.-area pediatricians, and compared the results with 1996 data from a government-funded study of 395 pediatricians nationwide. A total of 21,065 patients ages 4 to 15 were involved. The largest changes were in attention deficit/hyperactivity, which increased from 1.4 percent to 9.2 percent, and emotional problems such as anxiety and depression, which increased from a negligible amount to 3.6 percent. John Lavigne, chief psychologist at Children's Memorial Hospital in Chicago, said that despite the researchers' findings, some of the increase can probably be attributed to pediatricians getting better at recognizing the problems. The study ``means that doctors before must have been underestimating the problem,'' Lavigne said. ``Chances are they've increased their ability to recognize them.''
[CTRL] Drudge: Tina Brown/Disney Book Outs Starr Staffers, Reporters
X DRUDGE REPORT X MONDAY JUNE 05 2000 14:19:07 ET X TINA BROWN, DISNEY BOOK PROJECT EXPOSES DIRT ON CLINTON CRITICS; AUTHOR OUTS 'GAY' STARR STAFFERS, REPORTERS **Exclusive** Wait until Mickey Mouse hears about this! The DRUDGE REPORT has obtained a working manuscript of a book commissioned by DISNEY's TALK/MIRAMAX imprint -- a book that digs deep into the private sex lives and business dealings of major and minor Clinton critics! Author John Connolly [NY MAG, PREMIERE] has been working feverishly behind the scenes on his slash and trash investigation. "There are no less than six gays involved in the [Lewinsky] case. Two of the 'elves', and three of Starr's young male protege's were gay..." Connolly writes. Connolly plans to name some names. Using the term "fag hag" to describe Lewinsky player Lucianne Goldberg, Connolly told the DRUDGE REPORT that he has an "iron clad contract" with TALK/MIRAMAX. "Very little has been written on the personal lives of the people who were behind the Lewinsky case," writes Connolly, in a working introduction to THE INSANE CLOWN POSSE. Connolly has been spending the cash advanced to him by TALK to explore the personal backgrounds of Clinton scandal insiders. Best-selling author and syndicated columnist Ann Coulter, who comes under the Connolly microscope, said on Monday that she was "harassed" after Connolly brought in a private investigator to dig into her background. "The guy began a program of harassment by calling me at home 6 times a day until I changed my number, sending me flowers, and hiring a private investigator to look into my personal life. I have a copy of the letter his P.I. sent to an ex-boyfriend of mine, stating that he was hired by John Connolly to look into me." Connolly confirmed that he hired an investigator: "When Coulter abruptly stopped taking my calls for whatever reason, my P.I. said he knew someone who was a friend of Bob Guccione Jr., who Coulter had dated." TALK/MIRAMAX book editor John Burnham noted on Monday that Connolly is under contract to write CLOWN POSSE, but cautioned that "no decision have been made" about the book's eventual content. "Everything is up for review," said Burnham. "I will not be bullied around," warns Connolly, "by threats or lawsuits or anything else." Hide your cigarettes under the bed, Snow White. A scorched earth alert has been issued. Developing... = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] News from Hebron: GOOD NEWS (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 23:45:18 + From: Hebron [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: News from Hebron:GOOD NEWS News from Hebron The Hebron Press Office June 5, 2000 1. Barak Gov't Nearing End Likud MK Sylvan Shalom tonight announced that at least 61 MKs (over half of the 120 Knesset members) will vote for a law calling for early elections, on Wednesday. Wednesday's vote is a "preliminary ballot," the first of three Knesset votes necessitated to pass a law. If this law passes the preliminary vote on Wednesday, it will spell the beginning of the end of the Barak administration. Barak will have no choice but to come to terms with the Likud and pick a date, probably within a few months, for new elections for Prime Minister and Knesset. The major breakthrough seems to have occurred when Barak gave orders to halt all negotiations with the Shas party concerning funding of the Shas educational system "El HaMa'ayan." Shas has reportedly promised that all of its 17 Knesset members will vote in favor of early elections. The majority is promised with Shas, together with Yisrael B'Aliyah (Natan Sharansky) and the NRP, and the opposition parties, voting for early elections. Barak was elected last May for a four year term of office. Presented by The Jewish Community of Hebron POB 105 Kiryat Arba, Israel 90100 Tel:972-2-9965333 Fax:972-2-9965304 E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to list:subscribe hebron_today (your name) Mail to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or via the WWW at http://virtual.co.il/city_services/lists/hebron/ = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:
Well, you could certainly be right about these "Ex-military" and "Ex-spy" guys, but then again they could just be people who are; 1) Full of a lot of bull who hope to make money using their bullshit stories. 2) Get a kick out of stringing people along with a bunch of malarky. 3) Are currently running a program of disinformation in order to undermine people looking into real intelligence matters. Real researchers often wind up dead when they get too close to stories, none of these yahoos ever do. As for me, well, you can take or leave me, it matters not. I am not trying to sell an agenda, neither am I desirous for people to believe what I say, and as for creditability give me as little or as much as you wish, it's up to you. I don't sign my posts because I like some measure of anonymity, but to people who have been here a while I am known, by my real name even. I don't care whether you listen to or believe me, but if you were circumspect about your beliefs Nicky you would question what these whistleblowers say just as much if not more than anything I say, since I'm not saying anything as outlandish as the claims they make. I never asked for "undeniable proof" of "aliens" or any other matter. I just want some evidence that can be weighed, and "military man-X's" say-so is not good enough for me. If it good enough for you then so be it. You may answer or not, it means nothing to me one way or the other. Naturally I'd prefer to carry on a rational two-sided discussion of issues, but if you wish you can ignore me just as easily. On Mon, 05 June 2000, Nicky Molloy wrote: -Original Message- From: tenebroust [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Since there is no real evidence for it, we must just look at it all as speculation by "army officer X", or some "covert warrior" who now wants to come clean, etc. Well tenebroust, I guess the reason Commander X, Branton etc use non de plumes is because are in danger of their lives. I think anybody who just comes right out like fool with their name, rank and serial number and starts spouting off about the alien treaties the US govt has made with ets, really wouldn't have that much to say. They were intelligence officers and we don't really need to know their personal details. Other intelligence officers can know if they are speaking the truth or not and then it spreads from there.The information they present us with is generally self evident, because of a consistancy that others keep verifying, that they do have experience in inside covert operations. There are photos and documents in these books. Who are you? Why do you use a silly name? We don't know what country you are from, which gender, or how old you are, yet you want respect and to be listened to merely because your typed letters appear in our inboxes. Tell me why you personally don't give us your full name, address, ICQ number, CV, recent photo, race and blood type and birthdate. I'd like to know that before I even consider your comments on my post. You are looking for proof of someone's rank and their name before you believe them. Yet you are doing the same thing by hiding under a false name. Please - you don't even sign your posts!! So you want me to tell you, an indeterminate stranger going on public archives how I came by my info like a complete blabbermouth I'd have to be tortured to reveal it sorry. Please by all means keep us posted with the latest speculation in these areas, but let it reamin speculation and not the recitation of fact. OK but let me say you did get warned, but took too long looking for verifiable factual evidence to your satisfaction. Nicky "Welcome to the desert of the real." Morpheus, in The Matrix "My God it's full of stars!" Dave Bowman, in 2001: A Space Odyssey ___ Why pay when you don't have to? Get AltaVista Free Internet Access now! http://jump.altavista.com/freeaccess4.go ___ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL
Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:
Thanks David, and I concur. It would seem to be that people believe what they want to believe and give much greater weight to ideas that they have a vested interest in. I do the same thing myself, and know it is universal. We could all do with getting behind things and down to the nitty gritty as it were. On Mon, 05 June 2000, David Sutherland wrote: C'mon NICK you can't be SERIOUS about all this ET UFO B.S. - these guys are tools - mostly book and video salesman!!! "Conspiracy Theory" and all its associated trappings (UFO's, ETs, Abductions, etc) is now as much a political TOOL as everything else is. I mean, if many of these ex-secret intel or otherwise UFO 'exposers' and supposed 'researchers' were what they claim to be - would it be THAT difficult to "slience" these clowns if the so-called near omnipotent "black" government, or whatever agency is supposed to 'hush' all this nonsense up, is really extant? Its pure religio-political propoganda, religio - because in many cases you will find all sorts of esoteric mumbo jumbo and 'spiritual' twadde and hysteria associated with many of these beliefs if ETs, Abductions, UFO's, and et al. To what purpose is this propoganda however, would be a far more interesting and profuitable exercise and use of time imho. - Original Message - From: "Nicky Molloy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE: -Original Message- From: tenebroust [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Since there is no real evidence for it, we must just look at it all as speculation by "army officer X", or some "covert warrior" who now wants to come clean, etc. Well tenebroust, I guess the reason Commander X, Branton etc use non de plumes is because are in danger of their lives. I think anybody who just comes right out like fool with their name, rank and serial number and starts spouting off about the alien treaties the US govt has made with ets, really wouldn't have that much to say. They were intelligence officers and we don't really need to know their personal details. Other intelligence officers can know if they are speaking the truth or not and then it spreads from there.The information they present us with is generally self evident, because of a consistancy that others keep verifying, that they do have experience in inside covert operations. There are photos and documents in these books. Who are you? Why do you use a silly name? We don't know what country you are from, which gender, or how old you are, yet you want respect and to be listened to merely because your typed letters appear in our inboxes. Tell me why you personally don't give us your full name, address, ICQ number, CV, recent photo, race and blood type and birthdate. I'd like to know that before I even consider your comments on my post. You are looking for proof of someone's rank and their name before you believe them. Yet you are doing the same thing by hiding under a false name. Please - you don't even sign your posts!! So you want me to tell you, an indeterminate stranger going on public archives how I came by my info like a complete blabbermouth I'd have to be tortured to reveal it sorry. Please by all means keep us posted with the latest speculation in these areas, but let it reamin speculation and not the recitation of fact. OK but let me say you did get warned, but took too long looking for verifiable factual evidence to your satisfaction. Nicky On Sat, 03 June 2000, Nicky Molloy wrote: Well Tenebroust, I think we can safely say that American abductions could sometimes be the military because they sometimes pretend they are aliens by using virtual reality scenarios. But the American govt did build about 50 bases for the greys which was done by Rand Corp. I'll find the info. English people seldom get abducted by greys according to a UK UFO mag. Abductees in US have gone underground to both grey and military bases.. According to Branton, there are even more greys under Los Alamos than even under Dulce, a major nesting area going back to native American times. He has heard of an area near Los Alamos where the Feds bring huge shipments of cattle for picking up by grey ships on an almost daily basis. It is a forrested area southwest of Los Alamos where pictograms of 'aliens' exist. So the aliens have been in that area long before the atom-jacks came in. Also setting off nuclear blasts burns away the membrane between this dimension and the next which would allow any interdimensional entities easy access to our dimension. There is apparently more Ets seen in Nevada than some other places possibly due to the nuclear bombs. Other people in other countries have been abducted and people have seen them rising bodily into the air and going into
[CTRL] More Drudge on Tina Brown Clown Posse
X DRUDGE REPORT X MONDAY JUNE 05 2000 18:34:22 ET X CONTROVERSY SWIRLS AROUND DISNEY, TINA BROWN PROJECT; DIRT ON CLINTON CRITICS EXPOSED **Exclusive Update** Late Monday Publisher's Row was buzzing about a controversial project currently in the oven at Tina Brown's new book imprint. The DRUDGE REPORT obtained a working manuscript of a book commissioned by DISNEY's TALK/MIRAMAX -- a book that digs deep into the private sex lives and business dealings of major and minor Clinton critics! Author John Connolly's work-in-progress has became the focus of intense scrutiny at TALK. Reached in New York, a startled Tina Brown refused direct comment. "Very little has been written on the personal lives of the people who were behind the Lewinsky case," writes author John Connolly, in a working introduction to THE INSANE CLOWN POSSE. Connolly, spending the cash advanced to him by TALK, investigates extramarital affairs by lawyers with ties to the Lewinsky impeachment drama and the sexual orientation of staffers working in the Office of the Independent Counsel ["Ken's Men"]. Details too hot, even for the web. "This is a disgrace!" said a lawyer who has received Connolly's undivided attention. "And the fact that a DISNEY company, with Tina Brown, has commissioned this witch hunt is unconscionable." TALK/MIRAMAX book editor John Burnham confirmed on Monday that Connolly is under contract to write CLOWN POSSE, but cautioned that "no decisions have been made" about the book's eventual content. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Linda Tripp: Most Clinton Crimes Still Secret
With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff For the story behind the story... Monday June 5, 2000; 12:24 AM EDT Linda Tripp: Most Clinton Crimes Still Secret, More Monicas to Come Speaking publicly for first time since the state of Maryland dropped wiretapping charges against her, Clinton impeachment witness Linda Tripp told a South Carolina gathering Saturday night that most of the criminality she witnessed while working in the White House has yet to be revealed. "Most of the things that I know that were illegal that happened in the Clinton White House I have not spoken about publicly or under oath," the star witness told members of Free Republic.com, the internet web site that organized the event. The revelation sent shockwaves through the crowd. Some of the still secret misconduct has to do with Vincent Foster's death, Tripp seemed to suggest, about which she testified before the Senate Whitewater Committee in 1995. The onetime White House office manager and last person to see Foster alive admitted to the Free Republic audience that she'd been less than forthright in her previous testimony about the case. "Bear in mind that during that time Kirby Behre, my White House-appointed private lawyer, was in constant touch with the White House and I was told how to testify. My caveat to that was that I never lied under oath. But I testified very, very narrowly - truthfully but narrowly - and to my regret, not completely." Asked if she could elaborate now on what she knew about the Foster case, Tripp begged off: "It's probably not the appropriate time to talk about something as involved as the Vince Foster case. ... There are a lot of issues that need to be addressed, let's just put it that way." Tripp also said that she expected other scandal witnesses to come forward by the end of the year, including White House women who had Lewinsky-like relationships with Clinton. "I know of women who were in the same sort of relationship with the president during the time that Monica was, and it's likely that they may or may not choose to speak up down the road." The key impeachment witness also challenged Lewinsky's claims that she was merely joking when she told her friend on tape that she was afraid of being killed over her affair with Clinton. "There's an element of tension and fear in that White House," Tripp insisted. "And it's not there for nothing. We are not imagining this. And when Monica Lewinsky said to me, 'I would not cross these people for fear of my life,' she was not kidding." "Ask all those people who dared disclose the truth about this president about their experiences with Clinton attorney-paid private investigators such as Terry Lenzner and Jack Palladino." Tripp said that the first lady was behind the campaign to neutralize witnesses. "We have all been in the crosshairs of Mrs. Clinton, whose orchestration of the destruction [of witnesses] is well known in the White House. She calls the shots. She spearheads the strategy. And she is in charge." Tripp, who for a time had a West Wing office adjacent to Hillary Clinton's, had words of warning about Clinton's U.S. Senate candidacy: "This is her ticket on her fast track back to the White House. New Yorkers need to pay attention." Tripp said that she chose to accept Free Republic's invitation to speak because its members had been so supportive throughout her ordeal. But she vowed to end her self-imposed silence, telling the crowd, "If I continue to remain silent, they win." Early in her address Tripp's newly aggressive strategy was on display. Revealing the next move in her lawsuit against Pentagon officials who leaked confidential information about her, Tripp said, "In the next few weeks we'll be subpoenaing every national name you can imagine in the White House." Further angering Tripp: the Pentagon has agreed to pay for private lawyers for the two officials who, the Justice Department admits, broke the law when they leaked derogatory information on Tripp to the press. Despite the admission, there have been no indictments or even dismissals. "It's really up to the civil process to hold them accountable," said the star impeachment witness. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and
[CTRL] The Korean War Atrocity Debate (Three stories on the evolution of the exposé)
.. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Alex Constantine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The Korean War Atrocity Debate (Three stories on the evolution of the exposé) Date: Sunday, May 28, 2000 7:08 PM The Korean War Atrocity Debate (Three stories on the evolution of the exposé) ___ Korean War 'Massacre' Story Not True NewsMax,com Friday, May 12, 2000 7:56 p.m. EDT A Pulitzer Prize-winning Associated Press story about a massacre of civilian refugees in the earliest day of the Korean War ó which was picked up and spread by countless other media, provoking outrage here and in Korea ó is not true, according to two hard-hitting investigative reports out today. Both U.S. News World Reportand the magazine Stars and Stripes launched investigations of the alleged massacre at the village of No Gun Ri and discovered that the story was so riddled with gaping holes ó and that several key "witnesses" cited by AP were not even there ó that its credibility is practically nil. Published on Sept. 30, 1999, the AP story charged that in June 1950, when U.S. and South Korean forces were facing an onslaught by swiftly advancing North Korean troops, American soldiers acting on orders from their superior officers allegedly machine-gunned hundreds of helpless South Korean civilians huddled under a railroad bridge near No Gun Ri. The shocking story reverberated around the world, sparked an official Army investigation of the alleged massacre and was reported in other publications and on television, many of which added new details from sources cited in the original report. NBC even had Tom Brokaw do a special segment on the story. As with CNN's sensational Tailwind story that suggested American soldiers gassed Vietcong during the Vietnam War, most of the media swallowed the No Gun Ri massacre story without questioning it or even verifying accounts. A Stars and Stripes investigation, however, uncovered startling new information ó also uncovered by a wide-ranging investigative effort of U.S. News ó that casts serious doubts about the massacre allegations and convincingly impeaches the credibility of several individuals identified by the Associated Press as key eyewitnesses. The U.S. News report is hitting newsstands this weekend. According to Stars and Stripes, the AP report "quoted several former U.S. soldiers and South Korean survivors who said that members of the 2nd Battalion, 7th Cavalry Regiment, 1st Cavalry Division, had fired on and killed several hundred South Korean civilians over a three-day period as they cowered inside a railroad-bridge culvert near No Gun Ri, about 30 miles east-southeast of the city of Taejon in southern South Korea.î But according to declassified Army war diaries and other documents obtained by Stars and Stripes from the National Archives and the National Personnel Records Center, the two eyewitnesses identified by the Associated Press were not with the battalion at the time the alleged shootings took place. Moreover, the unit that allegedly committed the massacre over a three-day period was in the area for only a few hours, after which it fled in disarray. Here is how the Stars and Stripes described the AP story: "The Associated Press report centered on three charges: "That the American soldiers were ordered by their officers to open fire on all refugees attempting to cross the lines between the advancing North Korean army and the U.S. defenses. "That the American soldiers ëdirected the refugees into the bridge underpasses Ö and after dark opened fire on them from nearby machine-gun positions,í as the AP reported. The soldiers ëkept the refugees pinned under the bridge Ö and killed almost all of them.í "The killings took place over the three-day period of July 26-28, 1950.î But the magazineís investigation discovered that: "The specific U.S. Army unit accused of carrying out the massacre of the civilians at No Gun Ri over the three-day period of July 26-28, 1950, was H Company of the 2nd Battalion, 7th Cavalry Regiment. A declassified war diary of the unit and the rest of the 2nd Battalion arrived by convoy near No Gun Ri the day after the 7th Cavalry Regiment's other two battalions had been attacked by the North Korean army units moving east from Taejon. "The regimental war diaries and official U.S. Army history of the Korean War make no mention of the unit being dug in at No Gun Ri for three days, reporting only the evening march to the front lines at 6:50 p.m. and the panicked flight of the soldiers back down the valley about seven hours later. Later entries for July 27 and 28 indicate the entire regiment was in sporadic contact with the advancing North Korean army and directed both artillery and air strikes against the enemy while receiving direct tank fire and mortar fire and shifting its positions as the situation required. "Daily and Flint ó the former GIs the AP report
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Ritalin Market Soars
In a message dated 6/5/00 9:47:19 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The authors examined data from a 1979 survey of 30 Rochester, N.Y.-area pediatricians, and compared the results with 1996 data from a government-funded study of 395 pediatricians nationwide. A total of 21,065 patients ages 4 to 15 were involved. I can't imagine how one can properly statistically correct for such varied data populations. Comparing Rochester to Rochester would work, but comparing 30 Rochester pediatricians' data to 395 pediatricians' data nationwide? Harumph. And this is what people call "science." The conclusions feed into the propaganda that tries to convince us that this generation's young people are somehow "different" than previous generations'. Because these young people are "different" we can justify drugging them into a stupor, trying them as adults, randomly searching them at school, forcing them to pee in cups at tender ages. Makes me sick. Samantha A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Background checks stopped more than 200, 000 gun buys last year
Another good reason why we don't need more restrictive gun laws, and why, perhaps, we don't need more laws against anything. The laws already on the books, if properly used are enough (and in some cases more than enough) to accomplish the goals for which they were written. On Mon, 05 June 2000, Eagle 1 wrote: !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN" HTMLHEAD META content="text/html; charset=windows-1252" http-equiv=Content-Type META content="MSHTML 5.00.2919.6307" name=GENERATOR STYLE/STYLE /HEAD BODY bgColor=#ff DIVFONT color=#80 size=2 H2FONT size=2Could this mean that the system IS working?/FONT/H2 DIVA href="http://www.trib.com/HOMENEWS/WASH/GunChecks.html"http://www.trib.com/HOMENEWS/WASH/GunChecks.html/A/DIV DIV/DIV H2Background checks stopped more than 200,000 gun buys last year /H2By MICHAEL J. SNIFFEN PAssociated Press Writer PWASHINGTON (AP) - Background checks blocked 204,000 of the more than 8.6 million prospective gun sales last year, according to a Justice Department report that shows state and local police rejected a higher percentage of would-be gun buyers than the FBI. PThe 1999 figures brought the number of purchase rejections since the Brady Act instituted background checks in February 1994 to 536,000 out of almost 22.3 million applications, the department's Bureau of Justice Statistics reported. That confirmed earlier estimates of more than 500,000 rejections. PThe bureau's report provided the first hard numbers on the differences between checks by state and local police and those by the FBI. PThe FBI performed 4.5 million of the 8.6 million last year, compared with 4.1 million by state and local agencies. PFONT size=3STRONGThe rejection rate among state and local agencies was 3 percent, compared with 1.8 percent for the FBI. /STRONG/FONT PThe report attributed this difference to state agencies' access to more detailed criminal history records than the FBI's. In 1999, 73 percent of rejections were because would-be buyers had been convicted of or indicted on felony charges. PLast year, the report said, all state agencies had access to "computer databases that record past felony convictions, and many accessed databases with other disqualifying information such as fugitive status, court restraining orders, mental illness and domestic violence misdemeanor convictions." PThe Clinton administration long has argued that the states are better equipped than the FBI to do background checks, but some states have not wanted to pay the costs. Twenty-six states handle some or all their checks. PThe overall national rejection rate has remained 2.4 percent since 1994, despite the Nov. 30, 1998, switch to computerized instant checks and the addition then of checks on long-gun purchasers. Only handgun buyers were checked before. PA second statistics bureau report largely recapped data already released by the Justice Department during its debate with the National Rifle Association over gun controls during the past few months. PThe gun owners' group opposed President Clinton's gun control proposals and argued federal prosecutors were not enforcing existing gun laws. The administration said federal prosecutors were focusing on serious offenders and shifting smaller cases to state and local prosecutors and that combined gun prosecutions were up. PThe report said preliminary 1999 data showed 6,728 defendants were charged with federal firearms offenses, up from 6,287 in 1998. It also showed that between 1992 and 1997 the number of federal firearms defendants decreased 19 percent, from 7,621 to 5,993. PThe report attributed part of this decline to the Supreme Court's 1995 Bailey vs. United States decision limiting prosecutors' ability to charge defendants with using a firearm during a violent or drug offense. It estimated that 2,500 more defendants would have been charged with illegal gun possession between 1995 and 1998 if the court had ruled differently. PThe bureau said prosecutors compensated by seeking longer sentences for weapon use. PIn a statement, Deputy Attorney General Eric Holder said that since 1992, combined state and federal gun prosecutions grew by more than 22 percent. When final data are assembled, "the number of people charged with federal gun crimes in 1999 should be equal to the number of people charged in 1992, even though there has been a dramatic drop in gun crimes during that period," Holder said. PHe also noted that the number of federal firearms offenders sentenced to more than five years in prison is up more than 41 percent, and the average sentence rose by almost two years between 1992 and 1998./P P /P PBRA href="http://www.crayon.net/read.cgi?[EMAIL PROTECTED]"http://www.crayon.net/read.cgi?[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A/P/FONT/DIV DIVFONT color=#80 size=2+++BR+++/FONT/DIV DIV
Re: [CTRL] UFO Operator's License on eBay LOL
Just for fun: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=348992992 --- Samantha A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: The Price of Progress
In a message dated 06/05/2000 9:07:41 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: `We already know that about half of us die of cardiopulmonary disease, # Cardiopulmonary disease is the number one killer in the U.S. but it wasn't always so. Before 1910, heart and artery disease wasn't even a major cause of death. Obviously something changed. Something in the environment or some change in diet or nutrition changed. What was it? It wasn't because suddenly cities started having "smog". In industrial cities there was a lot of factory smoke and particulates, but not "smog" as it is constituted today with a lot of car exhaust fumes. What was it? At the time of World War I, major chemical companies started producing large amounts of chlorine. Chlorine is a highly poisonous gas. It was used as a weapon in the war. Starting about the time the war ended, U.S. cities started using chlorine to kill bacteria in public water supplies. It worked. Chlorine does kill germs. But it also does something else. Chlorine acts in combination with saturated fats to produce a hard coating on the inside of arteries and blood vessels. This coating is called "plaque". This causes "hardening of the arteries". It's also called "Cardiopulmonary disease" and/or atherosclerosis. And now you know.the rest of the story. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Was the Catholic Church Silent During the Holocaust?
A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy http://www.newsmax.com/articles/?a=2000/4/24/53743
[CTRL] Fwd: NewsMax.com: Inside Cover Story
When I read this story, I remembered one other story about the great humanitarian, Al Gore. He had an old dog, who was not give proper care and was found lying on his porch wounded and unattended. Rather like this property destribed in the followiong story - Al Gore, Slum Landlord. If he treats his pets in this manner, and permits his property to be labeled a "slum", well what would he do to America. The fact that most of the slum property is owned by people such as the Gores, is disgusting enough. Seems to me the Vice President should get out of he slum landlord business, for you know, this is what is wrong with Americalook to Flint, Michigan, where the little black kid murdered the little white kid. All living in poverty because the great NWO took away life from what was once a great city which thrived...take a look at what you and your NWO/UN cronies have doe to America, Mr. Gore. George Bush Jr. - Go get him. This Great Liberal Democrat Gore is a symptom of what is wrong in America. A Saba Monday June 5, 2000; 5:25 PM EDT Call from 'Slumlord' Gore Leaves Needy Tenants in Tears Vice President Al Gore called Tracy Mayberry Monday afternoon to say he was mad at her for speaking to the press about his failure to make repairs on the house she rents on Gore's Carthage, Tenn., farm. The call left Mayberry's family in tears. "I talked to Al Gore earlier and he really had me upset," Mayberry told WABC-NY talk radio host Sean Hannity. "He said that I was talking really bad about him and I haven't been. I just told the truth." "I only called one news channel, that's all I called," complained Mayberry. "Now he's trying to make out like I'm trying to slam him to everybody and I'm not." "The way I see it, you know, is that if he's going to yell at me and say, 'Hey, you know, you slandered my name, you know, you were talking bad about me,' I just prefer not to meet with him. I just prefer to go on. I'm not going to be talked to like that and have my family crying and upset and everything. It's not worth it to me." Gore had been trying to make amends ever since Mayberry told a Nashville TV station that the Veep hasn't done anything to fix the rundown property after a year of complaints. The plaster walls are crumbling, the plumbing doesn't work and the floor's linoleum has worn away, Mayberry said. After the Nashville TV station reported her plight, Gore contacted Mayberry. "He called me Saturday all sweet and said he was going to move me into another house, a comfortable house, until he can get this taken care of." But by Monday the Veep's accommodating mood had soured. "Today he called and said, 'Well, I'll move you into a motel,' He was aggravated," said Mayberry. "He said I should have called him directly. And I said, 'How am I supposed to call you directly? I don't have a phone number for you at the White House.'" Exasperated, Mayberry said she was ready to send her children to her mother's house and spend the night in the family's truck with her husband. They both have diabetes, he has heart disease, their 4-year-old son has fetal alchohol syndrome, their 9-year-old daughter has a seizure disorder and yet another daughter is mentally retarded. Despite their many problems, the Mayberrys manage to get by on their monthly $1536 Social Security check. But it's landlord Gore that has Mrs. Mayberry at her wit's end. "I just can't take it anymore. I'm just going to get out of here." Read NewsMax.com's original report on the Gore 'slumlord' controversy Inside Cover Stories Call from 'Slumlord' Gore Leaves Needy Tenants in Tears Hillary Booed Again Linda Tripp: Most Clinton Crimes Still Secret, More Monicas to Come Lazio Gets Boost From DioGuardi Clinton Favoring Missile Defense That Won't Stop Russian, Chinese Nukes Gore Is 'Slumlord' Summit Revelation: Putin Can Say 'Big Mac' Report Clears Elian Raiders Despite Eyewitness Claims More Inside Cover Stories Home · Search · Free E-mail News · ZipMax.com-Free Webmail · Columnists · News Links · Late Night Jokes Archives · Shopping Mall · Cartoons · Magazines · Forum · Classifieds · Contact Us All Rights Reserved © NewsMax.com A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2000/6/5/162827
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Was the Catholic Church Silent During the Holocaust?
NO!!!It actively PARTICIPATED!!! - Original Message - From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 2:22 PM Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: Was the Catholic Church Silent During the Holocaust? A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy
[CTRL] MARS RECORDS - Online book Table of Contents.
Online book. MARS RECORDS http://www.themarsrecords.com/ TABLE OF CONTENTS Photographs Preface by Stephanie Relfe Summary by Michael Relfe Definitions of Healing Therapies Used Deliverance Understanding the Time Line Chonological List Of Events Visual Representation of Time Line Clearing A)Clearing Biofeedback Meter. B) Acknowledgements. C) The client is fully conscious throughout the session. More on the Biofeedback Meter The Mind The File Clerk To As is: How Negative Thoughts and Emotions are Cleared The Language of the Clearing Biofeedback Meter: Tone Arm (TA) READS: Short Falls, Falls and Long Falls Floating Needle Yes and No Rock Slam Underlined v. not underlined words Other Abbreviations A summary of symbols used Organisation of The Mars Records: Sessions Chapters Metabolism Drugs Repeating Technique The Clearing Practitioner's Code of Ethics Kinesiology Emotional Stress Release 'The Wernickes Correction' Session 1: Remembrance of Mars Session 2: Killing with Remote Viewing Session 3: Battle in Space Session 4: Drugs in Restimulation Session 5: An Untimely Death on the Hills of Mars Session 6: Booby Traps against Memory Recall I Session 7: Abiliity Blocking Device Session 8: Remote Viewing on Mars Session 9: Drugs to improve Psychic Abilities Session 10: Family Upset I Session 11: Pine Gap (Australia) Interference Session 12: Family Upset II Session 13: Super Learning I Session 14: Super Learning II Session 15: Eight Years Old Session 16: Super Learning III Session 17: Booby Traps Against Remembering II Session 18: Mind Control Commands I:Mind Control Session 19: Wernickes Commands II: Health problems Session 20: Casualties of Mars Session 21: Super Learning III Session 22: Machines Amplify Abilities Session 23: Erased Incident Session 24: Airport Incident Session 25: Suppressing Metaphysical Abilities Session 26: Homestead Airforce Base USA Session 27: Remote Viewing Practice Session 28: Zero Time Reference Point Chapter 29: An Impossible Message from the Internet Session 30: Scars Appear Overnight Session 31: Wernickes Commands III: From the Military Session 32: Energy Medicine Session Session 33: Buffalo Bills Casino, Las Vegas Session 34: Compartmentalised personalities Session 35: Drugs and Reptilian Doctors Session 36: Missouri and Reptilians Session 37: A Blinding Headache Session 38: Scars Again Session 39: Wernickes Commands IV: Cause of Pain Session 40: No result Session 41: Abduction to Homestead Airforce Base Session 42: Kinesiology for Teeth Session 43: Wernickes Commands V: Metaphysical Abilities Session 44: Wernickes Commands VI: Theta Levels Session 45: Blocks to Remote Viewing Session 46: Wernickes Commands VIII: Sex Session 47: Wernickes Commands IX: Memory Recall Session 48: Abduction in Dallas Chapter 49: A Strange Accident or not? Session 50: Dental trauma Session 51: Dental Trauma II Session 52: Witchcraft Session 53: Abductions in Australia Session 54: Time Travel in Dallas Session 55: An Agreement with the Greys the Military Session 56: Checked Out by Greys on Mars Session 57: PSI Training on Mars, Phase 1 Conclusion By Michael Relfe Why are they doing this ? Are you in danger from this book ? What proof do you have? What if no one believes ? What do you think about what has happened to you ? If you are a Christian, why has this happened to you ? How can I be involved ? Final Thoughts Additional Request Appendix 1: Easy Ways You Can Support This Project Appendix II: Interview with Al Bielek 1990 Appendix III: Interview with Al Bielek 1991 Appendix IV: A Lecture By Phil Schneider: May 1995 Deep Underground Military Bases and the Black Budget The Fire Fight At Dulce Base Government Factions, Railroad Cars and Shackle Contracts America's Black Program Contractors Star Wars and Apparent Alien Threat Stealth Aircraft Technology Use by U.S. Agencies and the U.N. Guardians of Stealth and Delta Force: The Bosnia Conflict Bombings in the United States The Truth Behind the Republican Contract With America Statistics on the Black Helicopter Presence Government Earthquake Device AIDS as a Bioweapon Based on Alien Excretions Appendix V: Phillip Schneider Investigation Why Phil Schneider went Public Appendix VI: Deliverance Spiritual Warfare Excerpt: from Moody Deliverance Manual Warfare Prayers and Deliverance by Win Worley Beginning Deliverance Session Ending Deliverance Session Further Notes by Michael Relfe: Praying for protection Prayers against aliens Appendix VII: How to Do the Wernickes Correction Appendix VIII: More about Kinesiology: The only symptoms of disease The Cloacals Appendix IX: Biography of Stephanie Relfe Appendix X: To Learn More About Clearing Kinesiology Appendix XI: ADDITIONAL RESOURCES CLEARING KINESIOLOGY DELIVERANCE ADVANCED SCIENCE TECHNOLOGY MIND CONTROL REMOTE VIEWING Appendix XII: BIBLIOGRAPHY Appendix XIII: REFERENCES A
[CTRL] Kali Worshippers? I wonder......
Time Magazine years ago had an article, and this would have been in the 1968 time frame, where the indicated Kali Worshippers, or those involved in secret societies of assassins, had been involved the the murder of the Kennedys and Martin Luther King. When you stop and think about it, are we heading into a 60 period again only this time are Bill and Hilliary Clinton leading and instigating mass murders in order to keep in power. Note I say in power, for often neither have authority for what they do. When I first read this article, I thought of it and read it again. Someone sees something here I believe most of us have missed. ** The Clinton Body Bag Count: Is this what it takes to keep them in power? Why is Africa, both white farmers and black employees, being led to slaughterwhy is Africa starving and why do they die? Rhodes Roundtable packed up their diamonds and left? Keeping in mind, Clinton was Rhodes Scholar? Return to The New Australian US Report Telling it like it is Hillary: the American Kali By James Henry No. 155, 6 - 18 June 2000 I wrote a short time ago (No. 150, 3-9 April) the more blacks and Hispanics that end up on morgue slabs as a result of violence the happier Hillary's dedicated supporters will be, particularly in the media. After all, I added, Hillary Clinton is a "race demagogue who will ruthlessly use dead blacks and Hispanics as stepping stones to the White House." That grim reality is coming to pass each day as New York's body count rises. The irony, however, is that Giuliani's sudden departure from the scene and Lazio's equally sudden appearance has changed the political landscape in away that is totally unfavorable to Hillary Kali. (Kali is the Hindu goddess of destruction. She was also worshipped by the murderous Thuggee sect. Adorned with skulls she is fitting company for those who callously use the deaths of others to further their political ambitions.) Painting Lazio as a neo-Fascist brute intent on waging war against New York's minorities is going to be an impossible task for Hillary's forces. The reason is the Wendy's massacre. This atrocity, for which 2 black thugs are accused of systematically murdering 2 blacks and 3 Hispanics, has served to highlight what every thoughtful New Yorker, regardless of politics, knows: It is the criminals in their midst that minorities have to fear, not the police. That the swift rise in the murder rate quickly followed Hillary's campaigning is no coincidence. Without the slightest regard for the consequences she launched a vicious antipolice campaign which her media allies remorselessly supported. Thanks to her charges of police brutality, which law abiding citizens like Al Sharpton and progressive pillars of the community like The New York Times upheld, the Street Crimes Unit was abolished. The predictable response to this product of liberal demagoguery was a rise in the murder rate. Freed from the fear of sudden apprehension by the Street Crimes Unit low-life predators are once again prowling the Bronx and Queens, though not, unfortunately, the well-kept streets in which Hillary and her media supporters live. The murderous consequences of Hillary Kali's callousness are revealing themselves in bloodless statistics. From 31 December 1993 to 31 December 1998 New York's murder rate dove by 68 percent. Last year it rose by 6 percent and the first quarter of this year saw it jump by 12.4 percent. This appalling trend is only to expected considering her campaign of psychological warfare against NYPD has forced it to exercise excessive caution in dealing with suspects and known criminals. No wonder there has been a significant fall in arrests for major crimes, including rape and murder. Only an ardent Hillary disciple would be unable to make the connection. While Rupert Murdoch's New York Post estimated Giuliani's tough anticrime campaign saved the lives of 2,299 black New Yorkers the liberal media (meaning left-wing reporters and commentators) marched in ideological lockstep behind Hillary's campaign machine. It is becoming more and more evident with each passing day that New York's media has become a willing extension of Hillary Kali's political ambitions. The election of Hillary Clinton would finally see the death of Common Decency and a further decline in the Rule of Law. As this realization slowly dawns on the more sentient of our citizens the surreal-like situation of hundreds of New Yorkers demonstrating for a police policy that will kill some of them, and already has, will come to be seen for what it really is: cynical political manipulation by callous Democrats. Visit The Media Wall of Shame and discover just how anti-American Rupert Murdoch's Australian journalists really are. Return to The New Australian A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy http://www.newaus.com.au/USReport.html
