Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:

2000-06-09 Thread Aleisha Saba

Well may 50 million masons can keep a secret, but from what I know of
the trip to the moon, we were there.

Why did the program suddenly stop?  Well, first the big night or day we
landed on the moon, some may be old enough to recall the Bridge at
Chappadwick, where Senator Edward M. Kennedy nearly lost his life and a
friend with him died in the water.

Prior to this accident Ted Kennedy had been seen as potential
presidential material, something he really did not want.  After the
deaths of his two brothers, he developed a drinking problem and without
a doubt was demoralized to a point where he underwent a very long period
of depression.

So what happened?   Huberg Horatio Humphrey got the nomination, and
lost.   And when he lost, many friends I had withe the space program who
had gone to California in particular making excellent money, $70 to $80
thousand per year, engineers all - returned back to their homes without
jobs.  The Republicans decided to concentrate on what, I do not know -
Watergate was the end result and the country really started to take from
that one big step for mankind, to slip sliding away and one big back
step and side step into what we now call, the NWO.

North American was the first to feel the real job losses.  I knew one
engineer who ended up driving a city bus, and he drove like a "bat out
of hell" but everybody loved him because the trip home was so fast.

Another hot shot with an ego the size of Kng Kong returned, and ended up
near skid row, until he finally got into a State position, at half his
former salary.   These were all men who worked on the big projects.

Civil Rights (black) wanted the money spend on people and not on trips
into space.   John F. Kennedy had made good his pledge to get to the
moon and first, and did.

So suddenly than began closing of big Air Force Bases across the country
until as of late we have a Commander in Chief named Clinton, whom some
believe is a draft dodger who played in Oxford and Moscow, waiting to be
elected as a JFK look-alike and trained all the way.,  My guess would be
that guy had some connections to the Red Chinese.

Today we are told the 21st century will be horrifichot, drought,
which is about the biggest line of crap this country was ever sold.
We have our Russian friends into MIR and weather control, and we are
told a lot of rain for the south west, which means Mexica.   The UN
Resolution 1732 (think that was it, have not seen it but onlly by
documented reference) calls for "sharing of the weather".

A lot also put out on the web on this, a man by the name of Beardon is
most often mentioned,  USAF Colonel at Huntsville, Alabama, home of Red
Stone where von Braun worked to assist us to the moon.   Old story in
the 60 period was "our Germa scientists are smarter than your German
scientists (referring to the portion Russia got, but we got von Braun).

So check out the sabotage into the space program; strange, no sabotage
in Russia.  In fact England, our cherished allies, laughted at the USA
when our first attempt to get to the moon went 30 feet or so, and blew
up.   England cried Oh What A Flopik..for Russia had the Sputnik.

Idea to get to the moon?   Colonization and new frontiersfuture Adam
and Eves venturing into places where nobody has gone before, only this
time maybe not as well equipped.

Remember when you read Genesis, God said we will make man in OUR image.
Note, it takes two to tango, and there maybe was a Mrs. God.
So, did Mr. and Mrs. God produce children, Adam and Eve?  Our image.  We
will live so happily - a girl for you, and a boy for me - and don't sit
to long under them apple trees?

During WWII, two songs are recorded one of which was Don' t Sit Under
the Apple Tree With Anyone Else But Me, and the other In the Cool, Cool,
Cool of the Eveningand God used to walk in the Cool Cool of the
Evening, but I always wondered who his shoemaker was.

If you read Genesis you find the secret of all creation.  You find the
Sun to rule by day and the moon by night and further into the bible the
Dial of AhazTurn Back The Hands of Time,  and even the Sun Stood
Still, but if it did we had to go out of orbit.

So someday a new administration, will get our feet out of the mud, and
we will again look to the stars where I believe the future generations
will find a place like C. Gordon Liddy called, East of he Sun, and West
of the Moon, and boy I wish I would be here for that trip.

If I had my life to live over, I would have loved to have lived in a
monastery full of books, for somewhere I believe in the Vatican Library
alone, you will find the very secret of life itself.''

But always remember Genesis when God said lets make man in OUR image.
So, all you male chauvenists...there was a Mrs. God, for he made an
Adam and and Eve (and not Steve, Dr. Poly).

At least this is what I think.  If we reall go further into deep space
and discover the secrets of life, think a lot of churches would go
underground, and Pat 

Re: [CTRL] Rockefeller Drug Censor Empire

2000-06-09 Thread Byron R Wahl

 You probably mean well but the notion of person power tied in with grandpa presents 
the impression of polyanna dream-vision "counter-productive" nonsense. What do you 
think of Hawaii (the big island) as an escape? Could it be more of the same -- with 
giant centipedes, ants, and dirty government agents? I'm 75 and don't believe any 
longer in America's HYPE.
--

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Any person can stand adversity,
The true test is to give a person power.

If you treat a relationship as if you are the only one in it, eventually
you will be.

Atrocities happen when the people about you -
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"I tolerate with the utmost latitude the right of
others to differ from me in opinion"
   Thomas Jefferson brbr

My Grandfather told me there are two kinds of people:
those who do the work and
those who take the credit.
He told me to be in the first group -
 there is less competition there. -
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[CTRL] Fwd: Free Speech: Ehud Barak - the next Prime Minister of the state of Israel - What do you think? Tell us!

2000-06-09 Thread Aleisha Saba

For legibility I am reproducing this story written by a man who feels as
I do, that Ehud Barak is not what he seems to be.

Barry Chamish wants to know what you think; well I wrote what I thought,
and somehow too I keep remembering Sadat seated on a stage with the
three pyramids within view as a man cried out "they are not real
bullets".

So an Egyptian murdered and a Jewish Prime Minister Rabin is murdered.
Both would point fingers at a natural enemy; but is there a third
element here not visible or goes without detection?   If so, they sure
know their bible.

 
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While the election campaign dragged on, two events that could have
changed the results occurred but they were not allowed to make a
difference. On March 10, a group of twenty citizens submitted over 30
pieces of evidence to Tel Aviv Police and requested a reopening of the
Rabin assassination investigation based on undeniable medical and police
laboratory findings proving Yigal Amir could not have shot fatal bullets
at Yitzhak Rabin.
Then, on April 29, my book Who Murdered Yitzhak Rabin was released in
Hebrew by Gefen Books of Jerusalem. Within were the same documents
submitted to the police the month before. What follows is a partial list
of reporters who recognized the importance of the events and began
preparing reports:
  Yehudit Yeheskieli- Yediot Ahronot
  Pearly Shahar- Channel One News
  Immanuel Halperin- Channel One News
  Sheike Rosenblat- Radio Kol Chai
  Dror Skornick- Makor Rishon
  Limor Shmuel- Yerushalayim
In each and every case, their editors and producers nixed their stories.
The public was not permitted to hear the truth about the Rabin
assassination and when that same public went to the polls today, they
did not have the facts. If they did, the vote would have been different,
one would hope, because no one would willingly place murderers in
power...one would prefer to believe.
Though you wouldn't know it by the media blackout, thousands of Israelis
have read my book in Hebrew and Russian in the past two weeks. People
contacted me to say they had decided to change their vote after reading
the book, and had the book received the exposure it warranted, there
would have been many others. However, powerful forces made sure the
public was not exposed to what should have been the central issue of the
campaign: the conduct of the previous Labor government and its role in
the Rabin assassination.
Not a few readers have commented that the reign of terror imposed on
opponents of the Oslo Accords, and then the Rabin assassination could
not possibly have taken place without the direct knowledge and
connivance of Labor Party leader Shimon Peres and IDF Chief Of Staff
Ehud Barak. As obvious as this is to my readers, I have never publicly
commented on this observation.
As if this will do the truth any good. Aside from the new Prime Minister
Ehud Barak, as number two on the Labor list, Shimon Peres will probably
be Israel's next Foreign Minister. And they will repress investigation
of the Rabin murder with all the power they possess, and that is much,
much greater than they had in the past three years when a few brave
researchers were allowed to demand justice based on their indisputable
proofs of high level official involvement in the Rabin murder and the
incitement which preceded it.
One of these people is journalist Adir Zik, who told me, "This time
round they aren't going to make the same mistakes. If anyone gets in
their way they will be arrested even if it means setting up detention
camps to hold them all."
It might not be a bad idea to get a copy of Who Murdered Yitzhak Rabin
before the ax falls on it and me. I am preparing myself for a attack of
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[CTRL] Fwd: Blast From The Past For November

2000-06-09 Thread Aleisha Saba

A blurp who Fred Lazarus, CFR, really was.  Though Jewish, their store
remained open on Saturdays and I loved that store but long gone under
new management.

Most true blue Jewish stores close Saturdays, so Fred Lazaras was a
Zionist without a doubt, and maybe that is a difference.  Knew one
Lazaras who ate pork, but one man's mean not always another man's
poison.

This is to show the power this man had, for Christmas is the time of the
three wise men who bring gifts for the Christ childbirthday gifts,
Christmas gifts, and Lazaras because of this one man, who was in the
bible brought back to life by Christ, this one man was powerful enough
to convince Franklin Deleano Roosevelt, to change Thanksgiving Day.

Boy what a Turkey.

So read under November 23, and then let us see how far back into the
transaltion of the bible goes the name of Lazarus; and, i n Daniel, who
made High Priest, President.

Hang on everyone, its the 60's again.

A Saba
Go down a bit to find Fred Lazaras = Dorothy Kilgalon dropped his name
on Whats My Line once and all ooohed and ahed.

November: It is beginning to get a little chillier. Everyone is getting
ready for the holidays, and Bill Clinton has been re-elected to a second
term as President.

Look in to the past and see what happened that influenced our ideas
about the presidential election:

To not to vote, that is the question
In 1845, Congress decided that every four years on the first Tuesday
that follows the first Monday in November we should hold a presidential
election. So that is why the 96 presidential elections were held on
November 5th.

November 15, 1872 – Susan B. Anthony and other women activists were
arrested for trying vote and choose who they wanted to run their
country.

November 8, 1910 – Women finally get to vote in the state of
Washington. This was a big step for women's equality.
 
Uncle Sam talks to the Communists, then he doesn't

November 16, 1933 – The United States and the Soviet Union elect to
talk things out, to establish diplomatic relations for the first time in
26 years.

November 1965 – Look Magazine tells the world that the United States
rejected peace talks with North Vietnam. The meeting was arranged by
United Nations Secretary General U Thant.

Communism's wall falls in Eastern Europe
November 10, 1989 – The Berlin Wall comes down. East Germans and West
Germans come together making Germany a whole again. Through the 28 years
that the wall separated Berlin, 75 people were killed trying to cross
over. The Berlin Wall was two 8-foot high concrete barriers.

Matters life and death

November 30, 1980 – Cary Grant dies in Davenport, Iowa. The actor
starred in Philadelphia Story and other favorites. He was 80 when he
died.

November 22, 1963 – President John F. Kennedy is shot dead while
riding in downtown Dallas on November 22 . The presumed killer was Lee
Harvey Oswald.

November 24, 1963 – Night club owner Jack Ruby shoots Lee Harvey
Oswald on November 24 before any one could really find out if he shot
Kennedy.

A matter of health

November 1, 1992 – France takes a giant step toward better health by
banning smoking in public places. Of course, smokers protest, and many
defy the ban.

November 8, 1991 – NBA star Ervin "Magic" Johnson announces he has
HIV, the virus that causes AIDS. He retires from the Los Angeles Lakers
after 12 fantastic seasons.

Thanks for a good economy?

November 23, 1939 – Thanksgiving is celebrated on the fourth Thursday
of November, rather than the last, for the first time. Fred Lazarus, the
head of a large department store chain, wanted a longer Christmas
shopping season to boost the economy (and his company's sales. He
convinced President Franklin D. Roosevelt to change the date of the
holiday. Since when did the economy have a say in when we give thanks?


Other memorable events in November


November 21, 1974 – Congress passes the Freedom of Information Act
that says citizens have access to public information. President Gerald
Ford later vetoed the Act.
November 4, 1970 – The Concorde supersonic jet travels twice the speed
of sound. At 30,000 feet altitude, that would be more than 1,320 miles
per hour.
November 15, 1990 – President George Bush signed into law The Clean
Air Act to make the United States a prettier and cleaner place. The act
said there should be special gasoline pump nozzles to reduce fumes. Also
automobile makers were ordered to start producing cars that run on
alternative fuels.
November 1969 – Sesame Street debuts in November 1969. It was designed
by the Children's Television Work Shop. It's purpose


was to change children's views on learning.
Original characters were Oscar the Grouch, Big Bird, the Cookie Monster,
Ernie, and Grover.
this month's blast
more blasts...
February
January
December
November
October
September
 

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[CTRL] With U.S. gone, Panama is a mecca for drug trafficking

2000-06-09 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

From:

http://www.washtimes.com/national/default-200069215016.htm

THE WASHINGTON TIMES
June 9, 2000

With U.S. gone, Panama is a mecca for drug trafficking

By Bill Gertz

 Panama is a haven for illegal drug trafficking and money
laundering that has grown worse since the pullout of U.S.
military forces last year, according to a law enforcement
intelligence report.

 "Panama's corrupt and ill-trained law enforcement units
continue to be overwhelmed by trafficking efforts and are
basically ineffective in their struggle," says the internal
report obtained by The Washington Times.

 The May 2000 report says Panama has made "few inroads" in
the battle against illegal drug trafficking and financial crimes
during the first half of 2000.

 The failure is blamed on the country's new president, Mireya
Moscoso, and "the U.S. withdrawal and turnover of its military
bases and the Canal in January 2000."

 Panama's Tocumen International Airport has "a serious
security problem . . . with internal conspiracies involving ramp
and cargo personnel who facilitate narcotics loads," the report
says.

 Flights by the Panamanian carrier, COPA, will begin soon to
Los Angeles and will create new problems for airline and airport
security that "already has its problems keeping narcotics off . .
. aircraft," the report says.

 Chinese and Russian organized crime groups also are using
Panama for smuggling illegal drugs, weapons and aliens.

 "Intelligence sources indicate that Chinese and Russian
organized crime factions are active in narcotics, arms and
illegal alien smuggling utilizing Panama as a base of
operations," the 11-page report says, noting that the number of
Chinese nationals in Panama increased dramatically in the past
five years.

 The intelligence report was produced by a U.S. government
law enforcement agency involved in monitoring imports. The name
of the agency was withheld at the request of an agency spokesman.

 The report also says a Chinese company that leased port
facilities at either end of the Panama Canal obtained the
concessions through "an unfair and corrupt contractual bidding
process."

 The company, Hong Kong-based Hutchison Whampoa Co. Ltd.,
runs the facilities at the strategic ports of Balboa and
Cristobol, on the Pacific and Atlantic respectively.

 "Its major shareholder, Li Ka-Shing, reportedly has ties
with the Red Chinese government," the report says. "Shen Jueren,
the communist official who heads China Resources, and Li
Ka-Shing, owner of Hutchison Whampoa, are both reportedly
partners in a Hong Kong bank."

 China Resources owns 10 percent of Hongkong International
Terminals, Hutchison Whampoa's flagship company, whose majority
owner is Li Ka-Shing, according to a 1997 memorandum from the
U.S. consulate in Hong Kong.

 Senate investigators identified China Resources in 1997 as
"an agent of espionage — economic, military and political." The
firm also is linked to the Lippo Group, which was implicated in
illegal campaign donations to the 1996 Clinton-Gore re-election
campaign.

 The intelligence report was produced to assist U.S. law
enforcement agencies in tracking illegal activities in Panama.
Any people or cargo entering the United States from Panama should
be watched closely, it says.

 The report is expected to be discussed Friday at a hearing
on Panama's security by the House Government Reform subcommittee
on criminal justice, drug policy and human resources.

 According to the report, Panama's political instability,
economic woes and criminal activities began after the December
1989 arrest of Gen. Manuel Antonio Noriega by the U.S. military.
The situation has not improved under Miss Moscoso, whose
administration has been unable to cope with the activities,
despite increased efforts at drug interdiction.

 "Panama remains a major transit country for cocaine and
increasingly heroin, due to its proximity to Colombia and other
narcotics-producing nations and its apparently inadequate border,
airport and maritime controls," the report says, noting the
government is facing "a difficult uphill battle."

 Drug seizures by authorities in Panama declined by 80
percent last year from 1998 levels, and "no major narcotics
traffickers or money launderers were arrested."

 Experts on the region supported the conclusions of the
report.

 "The increase in drug activity is a direct consequence of
closing Howard Air Force Base, and the loss of radar coverage by
AWACs planes that are no longer flying out of there," said Tomas
Cabal, an investigative reporter based in Panama.

 "The Panamanians have no way to defend themselves," said
retired U.S. Army Lt. Gen. Gordon Sumner, a former chairman of
the Inter-American Defense Board and former ambassador-at-large
for Latin America. "We've withdrawn our capability and left them
vulnerable to whoever wants to come in. The narcoterrorists have
money and they have bought their way 

Re: [CTRL] With U.S. gone, Panama is a mecca for drug trafficking

2000-06-09 Thread Aleisha Saba

Might add here, Russia - cross the Bering Strait to Alaska, USA is only
50 miles, then to Washington (Seattle) on to Colorado on to Arkansas on
to Florida on to Cuba and back and forth and Mexico of course is 2nd
route.

Sollog line is drug route.  So easy to find a common denominator if they
really wanted to.

Note how quickly forgotten the over 100 bodies found Mexico border when
Clinton in hot water in Seattle.   This was nice distraction, but those
bodies had to be slave trade virtually or drug runners and someone did
not pay up.

Old Odessa Route is major drug route; and a former Guestapo Agent headed
up narcotics traffic while another headed up Interpohl at one time.

So it looks to me that to the victor belongs the spoils..maybe all
the Presidents Men have been involved in a little more than the politics
of running a government by the people and for the people, and are more
self serving, than serving?

They say 38 million people go to bed hungry every night in America -
mostly elderly  and children.   And look at Clinton now wanting diseased
chicken for Africa?

White Farmrs and their black employees being slaughtered - and free
lunch is one big foot into diamond mines and gold fields and lost
treaures of Africa.

People of Africa starving with all their wealth?

Feed the Children first in American but then an President that permitted
and ordered a Waco and Ruby Ridge, and bombs for the Balkans, is this a
great Humanitarian?

So much for the "United Way"; in Columbus, the Cancer Society just had 7
million dollars stolen, and short time ago another near half million
stolen.   Imagine United Way?   Imagine your local treasury and believe
me, some of the auditors need refresher courses.

So much for charity..feed my flock, Jesus said - not fleece them on
a regular basis.

A. Saba
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[CTRL] UltraSonics-America's Secret Police

2000-06-09 Thread Nicky Molloy

Para, I managed to find the url for this and thanks -  what a find. Samantha
I'm just getting some underground urls for you.
Nicky

UltraSonics-America's Secret Police
http://www.angelfire.com/nj3/soundweapon/index.html


Keywords: Non-Lethal Weapon, Ultrasonic Weapon, Infrasonic Weapon, Sound
Weapon, Sonic Bullet, Acoustic Bullet, High Tech Harassment, Sound as a
Weapon, Improvised Weaponry, Non-Destructive Structural Testing Equipment,
Racism, Discrimination, Mental Disorders, Schizophrenia


Hello,

I posted this and the other web pages listed below to try to bring attention
to a serious problem that is occurring where I live, Camden County, New
Jersey and possibly other states in the USA. I've been targeted for over a
year now by a harassment group that consists of private American citizens
operating above the law. This group has access to the most advanced
surveillance equipment and non-lethal weapons I've ever seen. The equipment
and weapons should only be available to special military and special police
divisions. The group used this equipment to do illegal surveillance of me
and then the group attacked me with non-lethal weapons. I was informed that
this group is funded by real estate companies and/or a government agency,
such as HUD (Housing and Urban Development). If it is a government agency
that funds this group, then the funds are most certainly being illegally
diverted from a government program.

Possible candidates for this group to target are people (men, women, and
children) with criminal records, criminal behavior, mental disorders, and/or
non-conforming attitudes. A person's race and sexual orientation could also
qualify them as a target. Please remember that this group is operating above
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When this group targets a person, that person is on their own because law
enforcement will do little to nothing to help. Please access the links below
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[CTRL] UltraSonic Targetting by Secret Police

2000-06-09 Thread Nicky Molloy

http://www.angelfire.com/nj3/soundweapon/index.html

UltraSonics-America's Secret Police - Url for prev post.


UltraSonics-America's Secret Police

 http://www.angelfire.com/nj3/soundweapon/ultrasonics.htm

A secret police force in America? Never! I would have given this answer
before September of 1998 but not now. A secret police force operating above
the law and doing illegal surveillance of private American citizens and
acting as judge, jury, and executioner, exists in America. This secret
police force has access to extremely advanced surveillance equipment and
non-lethal weapons, which I thought were only available to special military
and special non-secret police divisions. I named the secret police force
"UltraSonics" because they primarily use non-lethal sonic weapons that
produce powerful focused ultrasonic sound waves to attack the person they
are targeting. I'll refer to members of UltraSonics as "UltraSonics Agents",
and I'll refer to the person that UltraSonics is targeting as the "Target".
UltraSonics did illegal surveillance of me and then attacked me with sonic
and electrical non-lethal weapons. The information on this page is based on
observations I made of UltraSonics over a one-year period, information I
received from other people who have knowledge of UltraSonics, and my
personal speculation about UltraSonics. Since UltraSonics did illegal
surveillance of me and learned everything about me, I thought it was only
fair that I tell as many people as possible everything I know about
UltraSonics. Isn't that fair? This web page is my attempt to do so, and what
you will read on this web page is based on a true story. This is the second
draft of my story and I inserted some things into this web page as I learned
of them.

UltraSonics would need hundreds of thousands of dollars to obtain this
advanced surveillance equipment and non-lethal weapons. UltraSonics would
also need connections to buy this restricted surveillance technology and
non-lethal weapons. I was told that real estate companies and/or a
government agency called HUD (Housing and Urban Development) is funding
UltraSonics. The government agency HUD makes the most sense to me. Local
officials of HUD could be illegally diverting funds to purchase surveillance
equipment and non-lethal weapons. A lot of people have told me that HUD is
an extremely inefficient agency of the federal government, and this could be
one of many reasons why HUD is so inefficient.

Potential Targets of UltraSonics are unwelcome neighbors with criminal
records, criminal behavior, mental disabilities, wrong sexual orientation,
wrong race, wrong ideas, and/or non-conforming attitudes. An unwelcome
neighbor can be a man, women, or child. The equipment and weapons that
UltraSonics is using to attack its Targets can be used to artificially
create symptoms of serious mental or physical disorders. While under attack,
if the Target is unable to comprehend what is happening to them, they could
be driven out of control and/or driven insane. Parents of children with
mental disabilities should be warned about UltraSonics because a mentally
impaired child will not be able to understand the technology and weapons,
should it be used to attack the child.

Law enforcement, state officials, local officials, lawyers, medical doctors,
and psychiatrists are aware of the existence of UltraSonics. They all deny
UltraSonics exists but use them in their own way. If law enforcement wishes
to discredit a person who crossed the path of the law, UltraSonics will be
called into action. If someone has seen something they should not have seen,
UltraSonics would make them quickly forget what they have seen. If the
parents of a mentally handicapped child refuse to put the child, that the
community feels threatened by, in a mental institution, UltraSonics can use
its technology and weapons to attack the child and drive the child out of
control. The parents will have no other choice but to institutionalize the
child. If the crazy old hermit that lives down the street is threatening
people in the neighborhood, UltraSonics will correct the situation. If a
community discovers that a convicted criminal has moved into their
neighborhood, UltraSonics is on the way.

In the United States, a mentally ill person cannot be forcible committed to
a mental institution unless they are violent. UltraSonics understands this
fact and has developed strategies that they use against mentally ill people
to drive them out of control so they can be classified as violent. Once the
mentally ill person is classified as violent, he or she can be forcible
committed to a mental institution for an indefinite period of time. The
mentally ill person cannot be released back into society until psychiatrists
at the mental institution feel that the mentally ill person is no longer a
threat to society.

UltraSonics also has strategies they use to discredit non-mentally ill
people and have them forcible committed to a mental 

[CTRL] New Technology Lets Police See Though Walls

2000-06-09 Thread Nicky Molloy

http://www.angelfire.com/nj3/soundweapon/xray.htm
http://www.angelfire.com/nj3/soundweapon/index.html


Click here to read original "Cops Have Eyes On X-Ray Vision" from APB News
article with pictures or read text only version below
Click here to read original "Radar Flashlight for Through-the-Wall Detection
of Humans" or read text only version below
Click here to read FCC's concerns


COPS HAVE EYES ON X-RAY VISION
New Technology Would Let Police See Though Walls
June 4, 1999

By Hans H. Chen

NEW YORK (APBnews.com) -- After failing for 19 hours to flush an armed man
high on methamphetamine from a Los Angeles warehouse, sheriff's deputies
made the decision they always dread -- bust in and take him out.

They had no idea where in the cavernous facility Daniel Lawrence Collins had
holed up, and no way to find out. They knew he would have the drop on the
strike team, and they were right. Collins opened fire with an SKS assault
rifle from behind a bathroom door, injuring three deputies.

What the deputies need -- and what they soon may get -- is X-ray vision.

A force multiplier

Three high-tech labs are in the final stages of developing a new form of
radar device that can see through walls by broadcasting radio signals across
broad bands of the spectrum to pinpoint a hidden suspect. Based on military
technology, the products still need government approval and won't go on the
market for at least a few more months.

But police who have tried various versions of the new radar scanners like
what they see -- and what the product developers are telling them.

"One of the exciting things about this is that it's kind of like a force
multiplier," said Elise Taylor, a spokeswoman for Time Domain, an Alabama
company that developed a through-the-wall surveillance system called
RadarVision. "It allows you to tell what's going on inside a building
without actually having to look through a window or be inside the room."

See breathing through wood

Time Domain's product can detect breathing through wood, plaster or concrete
from 20 feet away. By reading an LCD panel on the front of the chunky,
16-pound unit, police officers will know the exact location of their quarry.

"Especially with something that is as efficient as this in detecting motion
behind a door or wall, the police definitely need something like that," said
Jim Ball, a program manager for the National Institute of Justice's Office
of Law Enforcement Technology Commercialization who is helping Time Domain
bring the product to market. "It's high priority."

Time Domain has developed 20 prototypes and is still working on reducing the
size of the unit, Ball said.

100-foot range

Time Domain isn't the only company working on X-ray vision for cops. After
that June 11, 1997, standoff, the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Office
started looking into the new technology and came across defense contractor
Raytheon and its MARS system, or Motion and Ranging Sensor. The company
promises MARS will spot a lurking fugitive 100 feet away. That kind of
range -- achieved by adapting military missile guidance technology -- is
enough to find someone hiding two stories up inside a building.

"If they're in the bushes, all they have to do is scratch their butt and
you'll pick them up," said Larry Frazier, a Raytheon senior scientist who
developed the MARS system.

SWAT teams from the Los Angeles Sheriff's Department and Albuquerque, N.M.,
Police Department have been working with demonstration models of the MARS
system.

"This particular technology allows us to see through walls and has great
promise because we can find where the suspect is and enter into an area
where we're not going to be confronted by him," said Lt. Sid Heal, who
researches new technology for the Los Angeles Sheriff's Department.
"Sometimes it's as important to know where a suspect isn't as where he is."

Radar flashlight

Scientists at Georgia Tech are working on a third system -- a lightweight
through-the-wall radar system that fits inside a flashlight. With a range of
about 40 feet, Georgia Tech's "radar flashlight" displays less information
than the other two devices. Initially developed so Army medics could tell if
soldiers stranded on a battlefield were still breathing, the radar
flashlight can detect, from certain angles, a human heartbeat, say its
inventors.

When the radar flashlight detects a human movement, the display is simple --
as simple, perhaps, as two lights on top of the unit. A red light means
there's someone there.

This simplicity has the advantage of being cheaper than the other systems.
The MARS units are expected to cost $5,000 to $10,000. Time Domain doesn't
disclose the cost of its device. At $500, the radar flashlight may be more
practical for cash-strapped police departments.

"We're trying to reach every policeman on the beat," said Gene Greneker, the
scientist at the Georgia Tech Research Institute who developed the radar
flashlight. "Police departments don't have a lot of money for 

[CTRL] US Military Non-Lethal Weapons

2000-06-09 Thread Nicky Molloy

http://www.angelfire.com/nj3/soundweapon/weapon2.htm
 http://www.angelfire.com/nj3/soundweapon/index.html

Click Here to read original "US Military Non-Lethal Weapons"

US Military Non-Lethal Weapons
Submitted by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Source: http://www.cdsar.af.mil/apj/mcgowan.html
11-10-97


ACOUSTIC ENERGY PROPERTIES

Infrasonic:

Target effects
-- Mild to severe discomfort
-- Organ functional disturbance
-- Organ disruption

Propagation characteristics
-- Ground or structure penetration
-- Long-range propagation
-- Nondirectional


Sonic: 20 Hz to 20 kHz

Target effects
-- Hearing interference
-- Performance degradation
-- Pain
-- Hearing loss
-- Tissue damage

Propagation characteristics
-- Moderate propagation
-- Moderately directional


Ultrasonic: 20 kHz

Target effects
-- Possible diffuse psychological effects
-- Pain
-- Surface tissue damage
-- Tissue destruction

Propagation characteristics
-- Limited propagation
-- Highly directional


ACOUSTIC WEAPONS GRADUATED EFFECT

Effect on personnel inherently graduated by range and power level Detection
(infrasonic/sonic) at medium to long range Hear/feel presence of energy
Annoyance, irritation, interference with performance Infrasonic/sonic at
medium power Ultrasonic at medium to high power Pain (a) Auditory
(sonic/infrasonic) at medium to high power (b) Other organs
(infrasonic/sonic/ultrasonic) at high power Incapacitation (very high power)
Death Potential as area exclusion devices

Vortex Ring Generator Objective

Integrate concussion, flash, chemical, and impact methods of crowd control
into a single vortex ring delivery system, with the intent of improving
nonlethal effectiveness as well as reducing weight, cost, and logistics
associated with stockpiling different cartridges.


Vortex Ring Generator Description

o Concept of operation
-- Attach muzzle adapter to barrel
-- Add a chemical tank
-- Fire blank flash-bang rounds to generate vortex rings
-- Impact targets by integrated chemical-flash-concussion impulses

o Desired performance
-- Knock down human target with single shot
-- Incapacitate via resonance effects
-- Incapacitate by single shot employing entrained chemical agent


Nonlethal Testing Conclusions/Observations

o Determining target effects on personnel is greatest challenge to testing
community
o Wide variety of potential effects requires evaluation
o Potential for injury or death severely limits human testing
o Animal testing is limited
o Extrapolation of surrogate target test data not consistently reliable
o Antimaterial systems present difficult challenges
o Details of temporary upset mechanisms not readily measurable
o Human presence (integral and collateral) limits testing scenarios



_


NONLETHAL WEAPONS
Technologies, Legalities, and Potential Policies
Maj Joseph W. Cook, III,
Maj David P. Fiely, Maj Maura T. McGowan


From A.D. 1200 to 1500 a group of mercenaries on the Italian peninsula
called the condottieri waged what has often been regarded as a form of
nonlethal warfare. They were hired by the various mercantile city-states to
protect vital interests. Many of the major engagements between these
city-states' condottieri were almost comical for their lack of casualties.

According to Niccolo Machiavelli, the battle of Zagonara in 1424 was a
"defeat, famous throughout all Italy, [in which] no death occurred except
those of Lodovico degli Obizi and two of his people, who, having fallen from
their horses, were drowned in the mire."1 Several reasons have been extended
for this low lethality. One of the more plausible reasons was the simple
fact that the armor of the day was much superior to most offensive weaponry.
A more personal reason is the fact that the surest way for a mercenary to
lose his source of livelihood was for the condottieri to obliterate his
enemies. As a result, mercenaries rarely sought setpiece battles, choosing
instead to fight relatively minor and extended campaigns. Engagements
between mounted warriors often resembled jousts and those between infantry
often turned into shoving matches.

In the past, nonlethal warfare did not rely on the use of nonlethal weapons;
rather, it was the fortuitous result of the superiority of body armor over
offensive weaponry or the mutual lackadaisical approach of opposing soldiers
and leaders. Today, nonlethal weapons might offer the ability to wage
nonlethal warfare without relying on such fortuitous circumstances. The use
of nonlethal weapons would serve as a means of keeping the level of conflict
low and of dissuading belligerents from resorting to more forceful weapons.
Also, the prospect of resolving conflict with low levels of lethality is
especially exciting to a country that has a warfighting doctrine of
minimizing friendly as well as enemy casualties. Sun Tzu espoused a similar
doctrine when he said:


o Generally in war the best policy is to take a state intact; to ruin it is
inferior to 

[CTRL] Newly De-Classified US Electronic Harassment Technologies

2000-06-09 Thread Nicky Molloy

http://www.angelfire.com/nj3/soundweapon/index.html
http://www.angelfire.com/nj3/soundweapon/unclass.htm


Click here to read original article
Newly De-Classified US  Electronic Harassment Technologies
From bikebob [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From Steve Wingate [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Anomalous Images and UFO Files
http://www.anomalous-images.com
5-25-98


January 19, 1998

This page lists articles from technology publications which show how these
technologies are being marketed in commercial form, and have also been and
are being used to harass covert weapons testing victims:

The reader is asked to remember that ANNOUNCED inventions with potential for
"national security" use are ALWAYS already in use covertly when announced.
The SR-71 "Blackbird" surveillance aircraft was in use for many years before
the public saw it.

This page lists articles from technology publications which show how these
technologies are being used to harass covert weapons testing victims, and
are now coming out in commercial form, or have been announced to the public:

1. Aviation Week  Space Technology, March 10, 1997 "Radar Warns Birds of
Impending Aircraft"

This article by Bruce Nordwall (Washington bureau) describes research being
carried on by the USAF Wright Laboratory at Dayton Ohio. The article
describes the use of MODULATED radar signals to produce AUDIBLE SOUND within
the brains of birds near airport runways to cause them to fly away and avoid
collisions with landing aircraft.

Other references on work with animals or humans with "audible microwaves":

Science, vol. 181, 27 July 73, page 356 Nature, vol. 216, DEC 16 1967, page
1139 Nature, vol. 210, May 7 1966, page 636 Journal Acoustical Society of
America, June 1982, page 1321 Bioelectromagnetics conference, 1992,
13:323-328 (pages 323-328)

This list was furnished by the lab at Wright- Patterson Air Force Base where
this type of unclassified development is now in progress.

** The transmission via MODULATED microwave pulses carrying voices to
selected weapons testing victims has been carried on for more than two
decades, as reported by the victims. There has been little published about
this phenomenon, and since direct-to-skull voice transmissions are
consistently mis-interpreted by psychiatrists as 'schizophrenia', getting
this information to the public needs concerted attention.

2. Electronic Business Today, February 1997 "Business Trends" section, page
20

Inventor Elwood Norris, and his small company, (American Technology Corp.,
Poway CA) have designed a market ready device called an "acoustical
heterodyne".

This device sends out two sound signals in the ultrasonic
(above-human-hearing) range which, when they impact a surface, which may be
a living creature, then and only then produce a sound at a frequency equal
to the DIFFERENCE ("heterodyne") of the two ultrasound frequencies.

** This technology has been used extensively by harassers who follow a
walking or driving victim and bounce raucous, unnatural bird calls and other
strange sounds off surfaces near the victim. This type of sound is tape
recordable.

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3. New York Times, April 7, 1997, "Devices May Let Police Find Hidden Guns
on Street" article

This article, with photos supplied by Millitech Corporation, describes
recently unclassified "millimeter wave" cameras (and some other see- thru
technologies less well developed.)

These units operate like camcorders, giving the user a real-time
thru-clothing, thru- luggage image for detecting weapons and drugs.

Technology like this does not just pop out of nowhere overnight, and it
probably has its roots in the 1960's classified microwave weapon
"renaissance" - about the same time as the U.S. embassy staff in Moscow
discovered they were being bathed in Soviet microwave signals.

OEM Magazine, February 1997, page 20 "Electronic Dipstick" article

This article describes "micropower impulse radar" or "MIR" radar, developed
at Lawrence Livermore Lab in California, and licensed to several large
companies for consumer products. Basically, this radar uses the highest
radio frequencies and does not require the supporting hardware like rotary
antennas which 'conventional' radar does.

Uses include vehicle blind-spot sensors, traffic control sensors, heart
muscle response monitors, and ** see thru plaster ** stud finders.

** Thru the wall radar has been covertly used for a number of years on
weapons testing victims. One common use has been to detect where the victim
is standing or walking in their apartment, and 'follow' the victim's
position by rapping floor, walls, or ceiling from an adjacent apt. This is
designed to let the victim know he/she is under constant surveillance.

4. Defense Electronics, July 1993, page 17

DOD, INTEL AGENCIES LOOK AT RUSSIAN MIND CONTROL CLAIMS

Federal law enforcement officials 

[CTRL] Seven Global Environmental Champions Awarded 2000 Goldman Prize

2000-06-09 Thread Nicky Molloy

Seven Global Environmental Champions Awarded 2000 Goldman Prize
posted 21st may 2000
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Photo on url

A Mexican peasant leader whose struggles against one of the world's largest
lumber giants resulted in his imprisonment and torture last May, a Russian
lawyer who is breaking new legal ground as she pleads precedent setting
environmental cases in Russia, and an ethnobotanist from Madagascar who is
fighting to save the island's forests that are rich with potentially life
saving drugs are winners of the 11th annual Goldman Environmental Prize.
They are among seven environmental heroes from around the globe who received
the prestigious Goldman Prize at a ceremony in San Francisco. Each of the
winners received a "no strings attached" award of $125,000 from the Goldman
Environmental Foundation. In the case of joint winners from a single
continent, the award is shared. The total of $750,000 given annually to
grassroots heroes from each of the six continental regions makes it the
world's largest award for grassroots environmentalists.

This year's winners are:

From Mexico, Rodolfo Montiel Flores: A peasant leader, imprisoned since May
2, 1999, who successfully organized the local population to halt voracious
logging by US-based Boise Cascade in the Petatlán mountains of the Mexican
coastal state of Guerrero. Protesting against environmental degradation,
corruption, and human rights violations, he united local subsistence farmers
and environmentalists in a movement that led Boise Cascade to abandon the
logging it began soon after NAFTA was implemented in México. The movement
was brutally suppressed by the Mexican Army, and in May 1999 two campesinos,
including Montiel Flores, were arrested, suffered beatings, and remain in
prison. As a result, an attorney representing the Petatlán group was
kidnapped, brutally attacked and later released. From Uzbekistan, Oral
Ataniyazova: An obstetrician who founded a clinic and a community-based
movement to overcome the effects of environmental disaster in
Karakalpakstan, an autonomous region of Uzbekistan. The heavy use of
pesticides and other toxins in the region has created a devastating
ecological nightmare that has negatively affected the health and livelihood
of some three million inhabitants.

The diversion of water for irrigation of the region's historic cotton crop
have resulted in the rapid disappearance of the Aral Sea -- one of the
world's largest inland seas -- displacing 40-60,000 individuals dependent on
the formerly productive fishing industry. Working mostly with women and
children, Ataniyazova has created programs to raise awareness of the issues
and to seek solutions to the dire conditions in her homeland. From Russia,
Vera Mischenko: A founder of the public-interest law movement in Russia who
won the first successful lawsuit in the Russian Supreme Court in defense of
public ecological interests on behalf of current and future generations.
Mischenko and Ecojuris, her organization, were the first to use new Russian
legislation to protect environmental rights of people without formal power
of attorney. A recent legal action under her leadership resulted in an
important victory against oil exploration without environmental impact
assessments on Sakhalin Island, home to 8,000 indigenous people, migratory
birds and marine mammals, including gray whales.

This represents the first environmental victory in Russia against a
multinational corporation. From Madagascar, Nat Quansah: An ethnobotanist
known as a pioneer in the use of local plants in the treatment of disease.
Madagascar is home to five percent of the world's total plant and animal
species and remains one of the most recovery from childhood leukemia from 20
to 80 percent. In 1994, the recipient opened a clinic in the village of
Ambodisakoana. There Quansah implemented the Integrated Health Care and
Conservation Program in which the cultural practice of using natural
substances for medicinal purposes is being reintroduced to Malagasy
villagers. In the clinic's four years of operation, 5,685 patients were
treated, and the use of local medicinal plants has raised the community's
awareness of the importance of forest conservation.

From Paraguay, Oscar Rivas  Elías Díaz Peña: They began their efforts in
1986 under the dictatorship of General Alfredo Stroessner. Their struggle
has continued during political turmoil involving efforts by fascistic groups
to regain control of the country. The most visible success of the group they
founded has been the campaign to halt the internationally financed Hidrovía
Paraguay-Paraná navigation project, intended to drain, dredge and alter the
region's waterways as a spur for export-driven development. Their most
recent challenge is the struggle to highlight the severe problems associated
with the notorious Yacyretá Dam on the Río Paraná. Calling for effective
environmental and resettlement plans, Rivas and Díaz submitted a claim to
the 

[CTRL] Rising Temps Forecast Changes

2000-06-09 Thread Carl Amedio

Thursday June 8 6:17 PM ET
Rising Temps Forecast Changes
By H. JOSEF HEBERT, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - Alpine meadows will disappear, along with many coastal
wetlands and barrier islands. Cities will be hotter and more humid. Ski runs
will be scarcer, the demand for air conditioners will increase, and
scientists will have to combat a likely resurgence in insect-borne diseases
such as malaria.

This is the weather forecast for the late 21st century, when average U.S.
temperatures will have risen by 5 degrees to 10 degrees.

Assailed by some critics as too pessimistic and little more than guess work,
that assessment is of a country coping with global warming.

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 Four years in the making, the report reflects the most ambitious attempt to
gauge the impact of climate change on America.

A dozen government agencies and hundreds of scientists, in and out of
government, worked on ``Climate Change in America.'' It will be released next
week and later presented to Congress, which asked for the assessment a decade
ago.

The Associated Press obtained a late draft of the report's overview summary.

``Based on the best available information, most Americans will experience
significant impacts'' from Earth's warming, the report concludes. Among the
findings:

-Entire ecosystems may shift northward as temperatures increase.

-The Alpine meadows of the Rocky Mountains likely will disappear.

-Forests in the Southeast may break into ``a mosaic of forests, savannas and
grasslands'' and sugar maples could disappear from Northeastern forests.

-Ocean levels will rise, causing wetlands, marshes and barrier islands to
disappear or - when the geography allows - be force inland.

-The Great Lakes are predicted to decline because of increased evaporation
causing yet different problems.

-Some coastal cities, faced with sea level rise and more frequent storm
surges, may have to redesign and adapt water, sewer and transportation
systems. The study does not attempt to put a cost to such improvements.

Some critics have charged it paints too dismal a picture and plays down
potential benefits of warming - increased crop yields and warmer winters that
may make life more pleasant in some areas, for example.

The document acknowledges ``a complex mix of positive and negative impacts''
if, as most climate scientists predict, pollution in the atmosphere raises
temperatures worldwide by an average of 4 degrees to 9 degrees over the next
100 years.

An early draft of the overview summary was attacked in December as having
``an extreme, alarmist tone'' on predicting impact on human health. The
summary has been revised with more emphasis on the uncertainties of
predicting health impacts.

Nevertheless, the study says higher temperatures and increased rainfall
likely will exacerbate air pollution, saddle large cities with more frequent
and severe heat waves, and lead to the spread of waterborne or
insect-carrying diseases including malaria in the Southeast.

But society can lessen these threats and the ``future vulnerability of the
U.S. population to the heath impacts of climate change depends on our
capacity to adapt,'' according to the late draft.

In much of America, winter may disappear, limiting outdoor activities such as
skiing.

Warmer weather will reduce the mountain snowpack, curtailing the summer
runoff that feeds irrigation across much of the West and complicating water
management.

But more rain is predicted for the arid Southwest. That could bring new
vegetation - and more flash floods - to desert lands. Tree, fish and animal
species will migrate northward everywhere.

In the Pacific Northwest, the salmon may shift north to Alaska, replaced by
warmer water species. In Alaska the rising temperature is expected to cause
further thawing of permafrost, damaging roads and buildings.

But warming also bring positive results, the study says.

Trees will grow faster and the amount of timber in America's forests -
especially hardwoods - will increase steadily through the century.

Farmers will be able to grow more crops, although both in agriculture and
forestry, there could be increased threats from pests and fire.


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Re: [CTRL] Worldwide Lunch Program

2000-06-09 Thread Tenorlove

--- "[to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Same thing with the 55 MPH nationwide speed limit on all the
highways a few years ago. Some states didn't want to reduce the limit
to 55. But they quickly obeyed when they were threatened with the loss
of all federal highway funding. 

To their credit, Wyoming told the feds to take their highway money and
eat a booger with it. When I would "fly low" through Wyoming, back in
the 80s, the only cars I ever saw pulled over on I-80 had Colorado
plates  I think that was more inter-state rivalry than actual concerns
about speed limits.

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[CTRL] Oxymorons was Charles Manson the Solar

2000-06-09 Thread Tenorlove

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 That's an oxymoron

So are "military intelligence" according to George Carlin, and
"happily married" according to some of my friends. :-D

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Re: [CTRL] Ultraterrestrials

2000-06-09 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

From: "tenebroust" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Since we are speculating we might try to address some of these issues.

Yes, as long as we're clear that this is SPECULATION, and that we are
not presenting our musings as 'the real truth'...   ;-)


What if the so-called abductions of today, since I'm sure most would
agree that abductions (as opposed to interaction and weird events not
involving actual abduction-and possibly experimentation) are a
relatively new phenomenon,

Well, we could make an argument over that presumption.  As has been
pointed out, the modern-day 'abduction by outerspace aliens' phenomenon
has much in common with 'abduction by the wee folk' myths of centuries
past, not to mention similarities to incubi/succubi attacks, and also
very similar to ancient vampire legends (as opposed to Bram Stoker's
relatively modern take on the same)...


are merely a mental scenario and do not take place at all.

Indeed.  That's what I've been suggesting.  But there also could be
made an argument that altho something happens on the mential realm,
it does not necessarily mean that it does 'not take place at all'...
it only means that it is not happening within our physical realm of
reference...


There certainly does seem to be an inordinate interest in sex and
sexuality that's for sure, but could that not aso be a byproduct
of mental tampering, especially if the ental contact is such that
it invokes profound physical symptoms, which may involve orgasm,
as well as pleasure (this may be a way they control the people they
interact with, or make them more "relaxed", etc.).

But this raises the question as to WHY they are doing this.
There are any number of other scenarios that one could mentally
project to relax one's subjects, especially female subjects who
usually will NOT find an experience akin to rape either pleasurable
or relaxing.  Indeed, most of the abduction accounts I've read that
have involved a sexual element, the abductee rarely if ever found
the experience either relaxing or pleasurable, and that includes
males abductees, too.

Perhaps these beings are like the aliens in the movie "Liquid Sky",
and 'get off' on the energy that is released when humans experience
orgasm...

Or maybe Earth is the institution where the sexual perverts of the
universe are sent   :-7


Perhaps they use us for pleasure, whether "toying" with us for
amusement, or satisfying their own prurient interests.

Indeed.

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Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:

2000-06-09 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Today we are told the 21st century will be horrifichot, drought,
 which is about the biggest line of crap this country was ever sold.
 We have our Russian friends into MIR and weather control, and we are
 told a lot of rain for the south west, which means Mexica.

Not just the Russians.  Remember, 'we' have HAARP.

And 'southwest' also means Arizona, New Mexico, southern Texas and
southern California...


 Idea to get to the moon?   Colonization and new frontiersfuture
Adam
 and Eves venturing into places where nobody has gone before, only
this
 time maybe not as well equipped.

The whole idea of sending a man to the moon was fueled by the Cold
War...
as soon as we knew the Russians had space capability, it became a
prestige
thing that the U.S. get to the moon before the Russians...it was bad
enough
that the Russkies beat us to the upper limits of Earth's atmosphere
with
their satellites, and beat us by launching the first successful
astronaut,
we weren't about to let them plant the red hammer-and-sickle flag on
the
moon before we could plant the stars-and-stripes...

But by the early 1970s, times -- and the economy -- had changed
drastically.
The ultra-patriotism of the early 1960s was replaced with verulant
anti-
government protests from one side, and total apathy from the other.  As
you
pointed out, the slump in the economy led to drastic layoffs in the
aerospace
industries.  The price of oil skyrocketed.  Wages were frozen.

It was very hard for NASA and Congress to justify the expenditures
necessary
to continue the lunar space program; the focus changed to building a
permanent orbiting space station (which ended up not very permanent)
and a
reusable spacecraft.


June

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Re: [CTRL] Worldwide Lunch Program

2000-06-09 Thread Richard Sampson

Was Wyoming able to stop collecting the federal gas tax?



Tenorlove wrote:

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  Same thing with the 55 MPH nationwide speed limit on all the
 highways a few years ago. Some states didn't want to reduce the limit
 to 55. But they quickly obeyed when they were threatened with the loss
 of all federal highway funding. 

 To their credit, Wyoming told the feds to take their highway money and
 eat a booger with it. When I would "fly low" through Wyoming, back in
 the 80s, the only cars I ever saw pulled over on I-80 had Colorado
 plates  I think that was more inter-state rivalry than actual concerns
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[CTRL] Buying A Media Job

2000-06-09 Thread Kris Millegan

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Buying A Media Job
by Sherman H. Skolnick

  So, you want to be a talking head on a local TV station. And read the
alleged "news" from the idiot machine.

  Requirements:

  1. You have to be about 28 years old.

  2. If a woman, blondes preferred. Light-skinned blacks permitted BUT must
look like a doll.

  3. Must be able to read items about bloody wrecks, airplane disasters, and
tornados without showing much visible emotion.

   4. You cannot show any politics in what you are reading.

 In most of the bigger markets, such as Chicago, New York, and Los
Angeles, you have to buy the job through the local, handful of celebrity
lawyers. The terms are as follows: in a three-year conract, paying a big
buck, you have to agree to pay under the table, a minimum of 15 per cent, in
front, in cash, of the total amount you would receive in the first year of
the contract. Of that, it is to be divided up as follows: one third to the
union business agent, one third to the celebrity lawyer, and one third to the
news director or station manager.

 I have been on the periphery of the media since the early 1960s. A few
examples have come to my attention. Because of our role as crusaders opening
up scandals, items that are suppressed by the monopoly press are sometimes
referred to us, on the sly, together with the corroborating details. Media
people in key places confide in us. We never, never, never divulge sources.
Judges that we have fingered publicly for bribery have numerous times over
the decades, put me, as the head of our court reform group, in jail and
prison for so-called "contempt of court", for absolutely refusing to divulge
sources.

Over the decades as well I have become a sort of father confessor of
media people with a problem. [I once taught civic investigation at a Chicago
broadcast school.] Media people confide their problems to us, in confidence,
knowing that we will never reveal who they are and will oftentimes come up
with a proposed solution to save their neck and their job. I have usually met
with such people in the middle of the night at some out of the way meeting
place. What follows is a typical example:

 "Sherman, the so and so's fired me. And I am only in the first year of
my three-year contract. BUT, they cannot do that!" the media person
forcefully exclaimed. "I paid in cash, in front, the fifteen per cent as
required. I bought the job. The money was divided up on the business agent of
the union, this special lawyer that handles the buying and selling of media
jobs, and the balance went to the news director. I was also of course the
right age and look. Hey, the job belongs to me. They cannot fire me!" he
emphasized.

 He outlined to me how this system works throughout the media industry.
He offered other examples, some of which we already knew about from talking
to other media people.

 "I'll try my best to help you and keep all this confidential. After all,
you and your pals have in the past given me the lowdown on several suppressed
scandals, and gave me the rundown on the inside dirt at your outlet. So I owe
you one." I told him.

"I bought the job, that's the system. They cannot fire me!" he repeated,
his voice showing his anger.

 In my most compassionate manner, I quietly told him. "Well, you are
unfortunately in the same category, I am sorry to tell you, as a bank robber
on the way from the stick-up. A crooked cop beats you up and rips off the
loot for himself. And you want to sue for brutality and recovery of your
property. Such a lawsuit is not allowed. It is, the courts say, against
public policy, since you bought the job. It is against the public good to be
buying and selling jobs, such as in the mass media." I showed I understood
his plight.

"Listen, as an alternative, what kind of dirt do you have on the
celebrity lawyer, the union business agent, and the news director? Maybe that
would pressure the bastards to leave you alone." I asked.

"Why? You think I should turn them in to the IRS with this? The so and
so's do not report the job pay-off money on their taxes." He responded.

"Aw, come on now, don't be silly. Right before the April 15th each year,
the media honchos go along with the IRS and report a few evaders the IRS has
fingered. So as to scare the rest of the public into sending in their form
1040 without question, just like it is required instead of actually,
voluntary. The media bosses seldom go on the air with IRS corruption like we
dig up." I told him.

No lawyer would undertake to sue for him. So, he went on to some other
line of work. Being handsome and personable, he was suitable for being a
friendly, productive salesman.

 Some long-time network reporters that confided in me were worried about
their jobs and their pensions. A foreign outfit was trying to take 

[CTRL] OEN 6/9/00

2000-06-09 Thread Kris Millegan

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Snake Oil


ex-KGB Major Defeats Hackers, Saves Computer Industry


Next: that "Japanese programmer" who breaks PGP keys in five minutes.

A FORMER senior KGB officer who defected to America is patenting a new device
to thwart hackers and could be the saviour of the US computer industry.

Victor Sheymov is also poised to become the next "dot.com" multi-millionaire
after he left the service of American intelligence to found a "cybersecurity"
company outside Washington. The ex-KGB major has even persuaded James
Woolsey, a former director of the CIA, to join his board of directors.

Mr Sheymov was smuggled out of Moscow with his wife and daughter by the CIA.
He was soon working for the highly secretive National Security Agency (NSA)
trying to find ways of breaking into the KGB communications systems that he
had designed.

He turned to the private sector after falling out with the CIA over the $1
million (£670,000) he says he was promised as part of his defection package.
"The CIA cheated me in a major way," he told the New York Times.

Although he defected more than 20 years ago, he only settled his differences
with the American government last year. By then he had started work on his
"algorithm", a set of programming instructions for a computer, which he
believes can make any machine impregnable to hackers.

Hacking has become a threat to America's military and corporate
infrastructure. Both the State Department and the FBI have been embarrassed
by breaches of computer security. The agency employs young hackers to test
its own security and to break into the systems of foreign governments,
terrorist organisations and drug syndicates.

After perfecting his algorithm, Mr Sheymov used his former NSA colleagues to
test it. "We tried and we couldn't get in," said one expert hacker with 18
years of service at the agency.
**America has for the first time shot down a missile using a laser beam
during a test in New Mexico. The Tactical High Energy Laser has been
developed by the Pentagon for use by Israel to defend its border with Lebanon
against attack from Katyusha rockets fired by Hizbollah guerrillas.
The Electronic Telegraph, June 9, 2000
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[CTRL] U.S. spy agency plans to farm out computer work

2000-06-09 Thread Kris Millegan

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Jun 7, 2000 4:37 PM PT
U.S. spy agency plans to farm out computer work
The ultra-secretive U.S. National Security Agency said Wednesday it planned
to turn to the private sector for the overhaul of most of its non-spying
support technology in what could be a 10-year contract valued at up to $5
billion. The announcement marked a major milestone for an outfit whose Cold
War research into code breaking and electronic eavesdropping helped spur the
computer revolution and information warehousing. In a statement, the NSA
referred to the decision to pursue a government-industry partnership as a
"dramatic change" in its approach to managing and upgrading its information
technology underpinnings. Despite its high-tech trailblazing, the NSA, a
Defense Department arm, has made it clear it is struggling to keep up with
the explosion of encrypted communications via fiber-optic cable, digital cell
phones and the Internet. -- Reuters
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[CTRL] Ecstasy Produced for 'Riot Control' in South Africa

2000-06-09 Thread Kris Millegan

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ECSTASY - A HUMAN EXPERIMENTATION DRUG, USED FOR POLITICAL OPPRESSION BY
SOUTH AFRICA'S DR. WOUTER BASSON (now on trial for murder), IS ALL OVER THE
STREETS OF AMERICA. (CLICK to read Boston Globe article 4/26/00.) ORGANIZED
CRIME IS LAUGHING ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK!  WHERE IS THE U.S. DRUG CZAR?
PRANCING AROUND COLUMBIA AGAIN?

NewsMakingNews Questions: Dr. Larry Ford, recently executed in Southern
California, was a consultant to Basson's group.  Did he work on Ecstasy?
Ecstasy was and is extensively used in the gay and other social communities
in the U.S. and decreases the immune system and its euphoria leads to
unprotected sex.  How is Ecstasy use related to HIV/AIDS?
Ecstasy Produced for 'Riot Control' in South Africa
by Poison Pen © South Africa. http://home.global.co.za/~jrad/Ecstasy1.htm

According to Reuters, on June 9 1998 a former South African government
scientist told South Africa's Truth Commission that in the final days of
apartheid the government ordered its chemists to make one ton of ecstasy, for
'riot control'.

The scientist, Dr Johan Koekemoer, former head of chemical and biological
weapons research at the secret Delta G facility, told the commission that he
did not approve of the project and did not trust the motives of those who
asked him to make the ecstasy, saying "I did not believe ecstasy was a good
incapacitant (sic) and I told my superiors that...ecstasy enhances
interpersonal relationships. I told Dr Mijburgh [overall chief of Delta G] I
did not want to kiss my enemy". He personally delivered the ecstasy, in
powder form, to Mijburgh between February 1992 and January 1993.

More details on the case from a correspondent in South Africa:

"At the moment, there is an ongoing commission of inquiry being held into the
activities of the secret service during the apartheid years. The last few
days of the inquiry have lifted the lid on the activities of a clandestine
government laboratory called the Roodeplaat Research Laboratory. Evidence
presented by former lab employees at the commission of inquiry this week,
reveal that the laboratory produced all sorts of exotic poisons for use
against anti-apartheid activists. These included cyanide, thallium, botulism
and paraquat - and, wait for it, ecstasy.

According to evidence presented this week, between February 1992 and January
1993, no less than 912kg of Ecstasy `in pure crystalline form' was
manufactured by the laboratory. Working on a tab dosage of say 125mgs, that's
enough E for 73 million hits! The evidence being presented to the commission
is that the E was going to be used to `incapacitate the enemy'.

The shadowy figure behind the E production was the former head of the army
special operations called Wouter Basson who is now facing criminal charges
for being in possession of E a year or two back. The evidence presented in
court was that he was having the E manufactured for `incapacitating the
enemy', but the word is that he was was producing it for international
distribution in order to make himself a whole lot of money. In fact, quite a
bit of this E turned up last year amongst the local rave community. It came
in brown capsules and was judged to be 'very good stuff'.

The word from a journalist friend of mine who was been doing a lot of
research into the activities of the former apartheid government, is that a
lot of Basson's E found its way into the mouths of many of the army and
police personnel who were keeping the regime going. Well, it wasn't long
before the government capitulated and handed over the country to Mandela's
ANC party. One wonders how much of an effect the E had in this change of
heart!

Anyway, the word is that Basson has a great deal of the original 912kg of
ecstasy hidden away somewhere in South Africa. And if he manages to escape a
prison sentence, this E will doubtless continue to find its way onto the
local market. Since the quality of E here in South Africa has declined
sharply this year (in line with trends in Europe and the UK) the local ravers
are waiting with baited breath for the re-emergence of `Basson's Brownies' as
they have come to be known.."
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[CTRL] The Lebanese Battlefield - Past and Present (fwd)

2000-06-09 Thread Yardbird

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MID-EAST REALITIES - www.MiddleEast.Org - Washington - 6/07/00:  The following 
commentary
by Robert Fisk appears in the upcoming issue of THE NATION dated 26 June:

  SOUTHERN LEBANON WAITS

  By Robert Fisk*

"After hearing that, do they think I
want to send my [U.N.] soldiers to
southern Lebanon?"
   U.N. Officer

"It is not the Lebanese Army's job to
protect Israel's northern border. Nor
is it the United Nations'."

[Kefer Kila, Southern Lebanon - THE NATION - 26 June 2000]"

The final confrontation between Hezbollah and Israeli troops will stand
alongside Anwar Sadat’s 1977 arrival in Jerusalem and the extraordinary
handshake (fatal for Yitzhak Rabin and perhaps for Yasir Arafat too) on the
White House lawn in 1993. In southern Lebanon in May, after all the years of
bestializing every Islamic enemy as a “mindless terrorist,” Israelis found the
bearded, armed members of the Party of God on their frontier.

Right up against the border fence. Standing next to the gunmen, I was amazed
to see how awed they were by their own victory. One of the world’s smallest
guerrilla forces had driven one of the world’s most powerful armies out of
an entire country.

The Hezbollah, it seemed to me, were as amazed at history’s power as the
Israelis. I asked one of them — a red-faced, bearded man with an M-16—what he
was thinking as he looked over at the Jewish settlement of Mishgav Am.
“Incredible,” he said.

And he was right. Inevitably, US and Israeli journalists recalled the fall of
Saigon and the collapse of the South Vietnamese Army. In just two days,
Israel’s Lebanese surrogates, the ragtag South Lebanon Army, had fallen to
pieces.

But the parallel was preposterous. In South Vietnam the national army
fought on alone for years with, in its initial stages, high morale. But
Israel’s SLA militia fought for money—$400 a month, often paid in fake $100
bills. And they fought because they were blackmailed into service—brothers and
sisters would be jailed in the notorious Israeli torture prison at Khiam if
their siblings did not enlist. And they fought because they had collaborated
with Israel in the past and had no other future in Lebanon.

Once the Israelis decided to leave, the SLA’s disintegration was inevitable.
It never had a cause to fight for. The SLA was not, as a general once boasted,
the “shield of Galilee.” Nor was Israel’s so-called security zone secure. It
was a myth. The SLA fell apart like a gang of mercenaries in central Africa.
Comparisons with Vietnam are as dangerous as they are childish. The bearded
images staring through the frontier wire were, alas for the Israelis, the
authentic face of southern Lebanon. Many belonged to young Hezbollah men
displaced from their homes in the south during Israel’s military adventures in
Lebanon in 1978 and 1982. Hundreds of them were embracing family members for
the first time in more than a decade.

And right now, it seems, the Lebanese government is in no mood to send its
entire army into the south of the country—nor to sanction a massive UN
deployment.

There are several reasons for this. The government in Beirut sees
no reason its soldiers should act as a sandbag for the Israelis. It is not the
Lebanese Army’s job to protect Israel’s northern border. Nor is it the United
Nations’. Had Israel abided by UN Resolution 425 when it was passed twenty-two
years ago, things might have been different.

And then there is Golan. All along, Syria has insisted that the “peace
process” among Syria, Lebanon and Israel should be “two-track.” Even the
Americans went along with that. An Israeli withdrawal from Lebanon, the
Syrians said, must be matched by a withdrawal from the Syrian Golan Heights.
And Syria’s pressure point for such a joint retreat was in southern Lebanon:
Bleed the Israelis in their Crusader-style forts east of the Mediterranean,
and they would have to concede Golan as well as southern Lebanon.

That was President Hafez al-Assad’s equation. Golan remained quiet, the 1973
battle lines frozen. The Syrians could regard southern Lebanon’s battle as
theirs—with the advantage 

Re: [CTRL] Mrs God WAS: UFO EVIDENCE:

2000-06-09 Thread Stopforth, Jamie

-Original Message-
From: Aleisha Saba [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 1:05 AM
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Subject: Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:



  The word "our," h, you look at it as there is a "she." I look at it as
proof of the Trinity... Besides, "in our image", does that mean every exact
detail?  I've seen plenty of images-reflections even, and they're not
identical to the subject... But back to "Mrs. God." I guess that's open for
debate, or is it?

  About going further in space and churches going underground because of
it... Why would that be? Besides, it simply won't happen.  God has worked in
2000 year intervals... Adam and Eve, 2000 years later, Noah and the Flood,
2000 years later, the Birth of Christ... We're now 2000 years later. I think
we're due, and according to the Bible, the Rapture is the next event on the
list...

Jamie

Remember when you read Genesis, God said we will make man in OUR image.
Note, it takes two to tango, and there maybe was a Mrs. God.
So, did Mr. and Mrs. God produce children, Adam and Eve?  Our image.  We
will live so happily - a girl for you, and a boy for me - and don't sit
to long under them apple trees?


But always remember Genesis when God said lets make man in OUR image.
So, all you male chauvenists...there was a Mrs. God, for he made an
Adam and and Eve (and not Steve, Dr. Poly).

At least this is what I think.  If we reall go further into deep space
and discover the secrets of life, think a lot of churches would go
underground, and Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell, would have to get
another job.

So with this I am out of here; spent a day at the lake and was it
wonderful.  A perfect day.

A. Saba
Dare To Call It Conspiracy

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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #1

2000-06-09 Thread Ric Carter

SkeptiNews 000609a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

* Yesterday's bulletins: http://web.pitas.com/skeptinews/08_06_2000.html
* Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
* PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh?
* Site of latest notices, praises, discoveries: http://skeptilog.pitas.com
* No planetoids were crashed together to produce this bulletin. Next week...
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ Hyperdimensional Resonator: http://www.futurehorizons.net/time2.htm
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Computers will disturb heat balance of universe. Molecular computation may
  eventually threaten a cosmic meltdown, thinks Sun co-founder John Gage. He
  wasn't being frivolous: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/1/11268.html
; Oh my god!!! Aliens doens´t want to invade us, they can just fire up Quake
3 Interdimensional  fry our universe.!! [EMAIL PROTECTED]

# Rising temps forecast changes. (AP) - Alpine meadows will disappear, along
  with many coastal wetlands and barrier islands. Cities will be hotter and
  more humid. Ski runs will be scarcer, the demand for air conditioners will
  increase and scientists will have to combat a likely resurgence in insect-
  borne diseases such as malaria. This is the weather forecast for the late
  21st century. http://infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2567195585-d8b

: Would you rather meltdown your neighborhood, planet, solar system, galaxy,
universe? Should molecular/fermionic computation be regulated? Is your heat
balance at risk? Should you stop thinking, cool down, get a grip? Why not?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Animal-like robots could explore planets. GREENBELT, Maryland -- If the
  visionaries of today have their way tomorrow, NASA planners in the future
  could unleash an odd-looking menagerie of robots to explore planets and
  space in ways that humans never will. Researchers envision things like 3-
  foot- (1-meter-) long dragonfly-like robots to buzz high above Mars, mech-
  anical eels and seahorses to swim deep beneath the ice on Jupiter's moon
  Europa or "self-transforming" plastic explorers that can morph themselves
  into different shapes -- like the fearsome T-1000 in the movie Terminator
  2: Judgment Day. Yowzah: http://www.alienzoo.com/news/a/26080009.cfm

: Do robots/aliens/deities/demons already have free run of the solar system?
Can OUR robots beat THEIR robots? Would you like to be a robot, explore/run
the solar system, buzz planetoids, have robo-sex with cars/phones/ETs/me??

# Eel-brain successfully implanted in robot body - cyborgs coming - get in
  line for implantation: http://www.newscientist.com/news/news_224233.html
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# EARTH RITES. (AP) Think of the phrase "Forces of Change" and what comes to
  mind? A volcano? Erosion? A glacier? They're all present, but a new Smith-
  sonian exhibition also makes clear that people are also forces that change
  the Earth. "Ritual Earth," 1/3 of the new photo exhibit at the National
  Museum of Natural History, "looks at the way people project their own con-
  cerns on nature." One picture,made in 1913, shows a ritual dance by Native
  Americans. Nearby is a 1988 photo of aboriginal art in Australia's Kakadu
  National Park. There are photos of a Hindu religious festival in India,
  stilt dancers in Mali  the ancient Callanish Standing Stones on Britain's
  Isle of Lewis. http://infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2567193187-5cb

: What's your favorite Earth ritual? Have you changed Earth with your rites?
Has Earth changed you? D'ya invoke terrestrial/cosmic/universal powers very
often? Is it tiring? Do fertility rites take all your time/energy/juice? Eh?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# 'Gold Derivative Banking Crisis' Doc Races Around World. "It ought to be
  quite the summer for gold!" The "Gold Derivative Banking Crisis" document
  is being distributed around the world at a furious pace and it is going to
  the highest levels of the banking world. One of the most prominent bankers
  in Europe has ALREADY received 4 copies and "the document" was only made
  public 5 days ago. http://www.sightings.com/general2/gold.htm

# OFF WITH THEIR RIGHTS! A bill passing quietly through the House of Lords
  may mean Brits are now guilty until proven innocent. So why don't they
  care more? http://www.observer.co.uk/focus/story/0,6903,328071,00.html
# Everything you ever wanted to know of UK politics but were afraid to ask:
  http://www.guardianunlimited.co.uk/theissues/archive/0,6729,184781,00.html

: Does your conspiracy control the political/economic futures of (m)any sub-
continents yet? Do you publish/promulgate information about your strategies?
Are you believable? Is anyone? How much gold is enough? Do ETs eat gold? Eh?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

$ PSIONICS: Brainwave Reciever- Lucid Dream Goggles- Astral Projection Kit-
  The Wishing Machine- Electronic Mind Control- Crystal Power Rod- ELF
  Oscillator- Communicate with the Dead- PK 

[CTRL] Ian Goddard the Schill

2000-06-09 Thread Gavin Phillips

I've been very suspicious of Ian Goddard since he cowardly backed down from
his position vis-a-vis TWA 800 about 18 months ago when interviewed by the
mainstream media. He then resumed his position as if nothing had happened.

Now he is telling us that the Waco FLIR footage are solar reflections when
that scenario has been discounted by several experts. Edward Allard, Carlos
Ghiglotti,
a solar reflection report mentioned in "Waco: A New Revelation" and my own
eyes.

Goddard mentions the Vetor Data report which is worthless because they are
not an independent company having close ties to the US government.

 A HREF="http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a392480c744aa.htm"Was Vector
Data Systems Bought Off by the BATF? [Free Republic]/A
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a392480c744aa.htm

According to Dave Hardy Carlos told him the protocols were wrong in the tests.

 A HREF="http://toogoodreports.com/spotlight/050900.htm"Toogood Reports |
In The Spotlight/A
http://toogoodreports.com/spotlight/050900.htm


"I talked to him after the (British firm's) recreation, and his assessment
was that it was pure junk -- the aircraft wasn't even at the right altitude,
they didn't have the right procedures to verify that the sensor was
functioning comparable to the one of April 19 (1993). (He said) the best
thing that could be done with any resulting tape -- and this is before the
results were known -- was to drop it in the waste can. ...
End quote.

Ghigliotti, who studied the tapes for hundreds of hours was adamant about
gunfire coming from government agents. Gavin.

 A HREF="http://toogoodreports.com/spotlight/050900.htm"Toogood Reports |
In The Spotlight/A

Ghigliotti was hired by the House Government Reform Committee to review tapes
of the Waco siege. He made headlines last fall by confirming that government
troops fired into the church on April 19, 1993.

"I conclude this based on the ground view videotapes taken from several
different angles simultaneously and based on the overhead thermal tape,"
Ghigliotti told The Washington Post last October. "The gunfire from the
ground is there, without a doubt."

Ghigliotti said the tapes also confirm Davidians repeatedly fired at FBI
agents during the assault, though he noted return fire came from the building
only on the occasions when government tanks actually penetrated or demolished
the walls. About 80 Branch Davidians perished that day, some from the fire,
others from gunshot wounds.

Goddards full of it. I e-mailed Goddard my remarks. Gavin Phillips.


 From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]:

 From: Ian Goddard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Waco FLIR Reflections
 Date: Saturday, May 27, 2000 1:26 AM


NON-GUNSHOT CAUSE OF KEY WACO-FLIR FLASHES DISCOVERED

The Vector Data Systems report made no effort to explain
how multiple rapid flashes several times per second could
occur in fixed locations on the ground as seen in the 1993
Waco FLIR tape, which multiple experts say are gunshots.
Recently I proposed this rapid-flash reflection machine
as a non-gunshot causal theory for those rapid flashes:

 http://Ian.Goddard.net/waco/flir07.gif
 http://Ian.Goddard.net/waco/flir03.htm

That reflection machine rapidly vibrates a 1 by 3 foot
reflective panel up and down several times per second,
simulating key flash sequences on the 1993 Waco FLIR. It
isn't likely that such a machine rested next to Mt Carmel!

Shortly after proposing that reflective machine I realized
a far more probable causal hypothesis for the rapid flashes:
the reflective panel isn't being vibrated by a machine, but
by the free gale-force winds blowing through the scene that
day, and thus the panel is flapping like a flag in the wind.
Hypothetical scenario: an infrared-reflecting surface like
mylar is attached to a board and a loose edge is flapping
in the wind with a cyclic "flap rate" identical to the
cyclic rate of key flashes on the Waco FLIR. The flapping
reflective surface produces a rapid series of flashes in
one fixed location as seen by the FLIR camera, resolving
the rapid-flash problem without a machine or a machinegun.

My plan was to acquire mylar and staple a segment edge to
a board with a strong fan on it and see if I might be able
to film it causing rapid flashes of visible light (and thus
presumably also of IR radiation). However, that's no longer
necessary: I just acquired the best version of the 1993 Waco
FLIR I've ever seen, it's dramatically better than the copy
I've had. To my complete astonishment, on the better copy a
flapping panel about 1 by 3 feet attached to a fallen-down
portion of gym wall is visible IN THE EXACT LOCATION THAT
THE MOST INFAMOUS SERIES OF FLASHES OCCUR AS THE FIRE STARTS!
That flash series is emphasized by Dr. Edward Allard in both
"Waco: The Rules of Engagement" and "Waco: A 

[CTRL] The Removed Goddard Post

2000-06-09 Thread Gavin Phillips

I've been very suspicious of Ian Goddard since he cowardly backed down from
his position vis-a-vis TWA 800 about 18 months ago when interviewed by the
mainstream media. He then resumed his position as if nothing had happened.

Now he is telling us that the Waco FLIR footage are solar reflections when
that scenario has been discounted by several experts. Edward Allard, Carlos
Ghiglotti, a solar reflection report mentioned in "Waco: A New Revelation"
and my own eyes.

Goddard mentions the Vetor Data report which is worthless because they are
not an independent company having close ties to the US government.

 A HREF="http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a392480c744aa.htm"Was Vector
Data Systems Bought Off by the BATF? [Free Republic]/A
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a392480c744aa.htm

According to Dave Hardy Carlos told him the protocols were wrong in the tests.

 A HREF="http://toogoodreports.com/spotlight/050900.htm"Toogood Reports |
In The Spotlight/A
http://toogoodreports.com/spotlight/050900.htm


"I talked to him after the (British firm's) recreation, and his assessment
was that it was pure junk -- the aircraft wasn't even at the right altitude,
they didn't have the right procedures to verify that the sensor was
functioning comparable to the one of April 19 (1993). (He said) the best
thing that could be done with any resulting tape -- and this is before the
results were known -- was to drop it in the waste can. ...
End quote.

Ghigliotti, who studied the tapes for hundreds of hours was adamant about
gunfire coming from government agents. Gavin.

 A HREF="http://toogoodreports.com/spotlight/050900.htm"Toogood Reports |
In The Spotlight/A

Ghigliotti was hired by the House Government Reform Committee to review tapes
of the Waco siege. He made headlines last fall by confirming that government
troops fired into the church on April 19, 1993.

"I conclude this based on the ground view videotapes taken from several
different angles simultaneously and based on the overhead thermal tape,"
Ghigliotti told The Washington Post last October. "The gunfire from the
ground is there, without a doubt."

Ghigliotti said the tapes also confirm Davidians repeatedly fired at FBI
agents during the assault, though he noted return fire came from the building
only on the occasions when government tanks actually penetrated or demolished
the walls. About 80 Branch Davidians perished that day, some from the fire,
others from gunshot wounds.

Goddards full of it. I e-mailed Goddard my remarks. Gavin Phillips.


 From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]:

 From: Ian Goddard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Waco FLIR Reflections
 Date: Saturday, May 27, 2000 1:26 AM


NON-GUNSHOT CAUSE OF KEY WACO-FLIR FLASHES DISCOVERED

The Vector Data Systems report made no effort to explain
how multiple rapid flashes several times per second could
occur in fixed locations on the ground as seen in the 1993
Waco FLIR tape, which multiple experts say are gunshots.
Recently I proposed this rapid-flash reflection machine
as a non-gunshot causal theory for those rapid flashes:

 http://Ian.Goddard.net/waco/flir07.gif
 http://Ian.Goddard.net/waco/flir03.htm

That reflection machine rapidly vibrates a 1 by 3 foot
reflective panel up and down several times per second,
simulating key flash sequences on the 1993 Waco FLIR. It
isn't likely that such a machine rested next to Mt Carmel!

Shortly after proposing that reflective machine I realized
a far more probable causal hypothesis for the rapid flashes:
the reflective panel isn't being vibrated by a machine, but
by the free gale-force winds blowing through the scene that
day, and thus the panel is flapping like a flag in the wind.
Hypothetical scenario: an infrared-reflecting surface like
mylar is attached to a board and a loose edge is flapping
in the wind with a cyclic "flap rate" identical to the
cyclic rate of key flashes on the Waco FLIR. The flapping
reflective surface produces a rapid series of flashes in
one fixed location as seen by the FLIR camera, resolving
the rapid-flash problem without a machine or a machinegun.

My plan was to acquire mylar and staple a segment edge to
a board with a strong fan on it and see if I might be able
to film it causing rapid flashes of visible light (and thus
presumably also of IR radiation). However, that's no longer
necessary: I just acquired the best version of the 1993 Waco
FLIR I've ever seen, it's dramatically better than the copy
I've had. To my complete astonishment, on the better copy a
flapping panel about 1 by 3 feet attached to a fallen-down
portion of gym wall is visible IN THE EXACT LOCATION THAT
THE MOST INFAMOUS SERIES OF FLASHES OCCUR AS THE FIRE STARTS!
That flash series is emphasized by Dr. Edward Allard in both
"Waco: The Rules of Engagement" and "Waco: A 

[CTRL] US was close to ground invasion of Yugoslavia

2000-06-09 Thread Richard Sampson

http://www.usdefense.com/june2000/B/9/story7.htm

 US was close to ground invasion of Yugoslavia

   Friday, 9 June 2000

   EUROPE | After 71 days of U.S.-led NATO bombing against Yugoslavia last
year  without producing results, U.S. National Security Advisor Sandy Berger had
written a  memo urging President Clinton to send in 175,000 ground troops,
two-thirds of which  would have been Americans.

   According to a Los Angeles Times report on Friday, Berger worked late
into the  evening of June 2, 1999, preparing a short memo urging Clinton to take
the action. Berger,  who described that night as one of his longest thus far,
said he was disillusioned  because he had been an advocate of an air-only
campaign against Belgrade.

   With the memo freshly typed and ready to be delivered to the Oval Office,
news  came that Yugoslavian President Slobodan Milosevic would agree to NATO's
peace terms,  thereby ending the action against and -- thankfully -- Berger's
suggested use of ground  troops for an invasion that experts say would have been
costly.

   According to Berger's account -- the first since the war by a
high-ranking U.S.  official who has publicly said how close America came to
invading Kosovo -- the attack might  not have happened anyway. NATO allies had
said they would require three months to  assemble an invasion force and the
Clinton administration had already planned a final peace  mission to Belgrade.

   But all along, U.S. officials -- including Berger -- maintained that the
war against Yugoslavia wasn't supposed to be that difficult. "We believed that
the air  campaign would work," Berger said.

   "In the air, we had a thousand-to-one advantage. Once we got on the
ground, we  still would have had an advantage, but what was it, three to one? .
. . Milosevic would  have been happy to see a force come in on the ground,
because it would have allowed  him to wage a war of attrition," he added.

   A year earlier, Gen. Wesley Clark, NATO's supreme commander, had drawn up
contingency plans for invading Yugoslavia. Prodded by British Prime Minister
Tony Blair, NATO's leading hawk, and frustrated by the alliance's inability to
break  Milosevic in the air, NATO authorized Clark to update the plans.

   U.S. officials informed Russian diplomats about Clinton's serious
consideration in  April, 1999 of using ground troops to end the conflict.
Officials knew that the warning  would be carried back to Milosevic.

   One Russian diplomat, former Prime Minister Viktor Chernomyrdin, was
described as "apocalyptic" after hearing the news, and warned that NATO-Russian
relations  would plummet. Also, he said the Serbs may prove to be tough fighters
when acting in  defense of their homes.

   But Berger said there would have been no consensus within NATO to fight
a  ground war. He told the LA Times he was sure Britain, France and Germany
would contribute  forces, but Greece would not and Italy was "a question mark."



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[CTRL] ANOTHER GHOST FOR GORE

2000-06-09 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

New York Post-June 9, 2000

ANOTHER GHOST FOR GORE

Is Al Gore looking nervously over his shoulder? He should be -
because the lingering campaign-finance scandal from his 1996
re-election effort is catching up with him, even if the
mainstream media have lost interest.

Two bombshell revelations this week underscore the need to keep
this issue alive, despite hysterically disingenuous cries of
"partisanship" by congressional Democrats.

First, the House Committee on Government Reform released a memo -
kept secret for nearly three years - by FBI Director Louis Freeh
warning that Janet Reno's Justice Department was turning a
deliberately blind eye to Gore's involvement in fund-raising
illegalities.

According to Freeh - a Clinton-Gore appointee - Reno was ignoring
"reliable" and "compelling" evidence of Gore's active involvement
in illegal fund-raising. That evidence, he noted, conflicted with
Gore's own testimony - and suggested that Reno was wrongly
accepting Gore's version at face value.

"In the face of compelling evidence that the vice president was a
very active, sophisticated fund-raiser who knew exactly what he
was doing, his own exculpatory statements must not be given undue
weight," Freeh warned.

He also called for a total overhaul of Reno's fund-raising
investigation - switching the targets from low-level bit players
to the very top of the administration: President Clinton and a
"core group of aides." That's because, Freeh noted, "most of the
alleged campaign abuses flowed directly or indirectly from the
all-out efforts by the White House and Democratic National
Committee to raise money."

Freeh's advice was ignored.

That's understandable - two top FBI officials have testified to
Congress that the head of Reno's public integrity section, Lee
Radek, told them he was under pressure to save the attorney
general's job by not appointing an independent counsel to
investigate the fund-raising scandal.

In fact, when Freeh learned of Radek's remarks, he wrote Reno
that they "would be enough for me to take him and the Criminal
Division off the case completely." Once again, his warning was
ignored.

Now the same House committee has disclosed that every single
e-mail originating in Gore's office from March 1998 to April 1999
has disappeared - despite federal law requiring them to be
archived. Gore's office blames a mysterious "technical
configuration error."

That might seem reasonable - had it not followed an earlier
disclosure that the White House refused to turn over thousands of
subpoenaed e-mails dealing with everything from Monica Lewinsky
to Filegate.

And that officials at Northrop Grumman, which administered the
White House computers, said they'd been threatened with "jail" if
they told anyone about the e-mails, which had been redefined as
"classified" documents.

The coverup now underway by this administration rivals anything
seen during the Watergate era. Except that this time the national
media have lost interest - and no agency in Washington can be
trusted to investigate it.

So it falls to George W. Bush and the GOP to start holding the
veep's feet to the fire. There are important questions that need
answers.


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[CTRL] Pruden-'Go away, little boy, you're bothering us'

2000-06-09 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

Washington Times-June 9, 2000

'Go away, little boy, you're bothering us'

By Wesley Pruden

 Everybody got a piece of little Elian Gonzalez. There's less
to send back to Fidel Castro than there used to be.

 Fidel got a live trophy, seized from the toothless Uncle
Sugar. Bill Clinton got an assurance that Fidel won't flood
Florida with robbers and rapists from his prisons, sinking Al
Gore the way he sank Gov. Bill Clinton in Arkansas an eon or two
ago.

 Greg Craig, who is but two ambulances short of a shyster,
got a high-profile client, even if he did have to mooch his fee
from Democratic fat cats in Georgetown after the National Council
of Churches, a refuge of dying congregations with empty pews, was
forced by internal outrage to balk at coughing up the dough. The
odious Rev. Joan Brown Campbell, all bosom and bombast bereft of
a pulpit to call her own, got an unexpected 15 minutes of fame
for her part in dispatching little Elian back to her favorite
satrapy, where he won't eat nearly as well as she does.

 Janet Reno got to be of some further use to Bill Clinton in
the last days of his disgraced presidency, maybe enough to shore
up her pension and health-insurance benefits as the sordid facts
of Al Gore's escape from prosecution paint a legacy of corruption
at the Justice Department.

 The agents of the Immigration and Naturalization Service got
to play with their guns, pretending to be at Omaha Beach, playing
war not against evildoers their own size but against frightened
women and a terrified little boy. (When the Justice Department
put out a thrilling tale of its manly agents this week, hearts
pounding at how brave they were, their names were omitted so they
could hide.)

 Even the Republicans got a piece of Elian. They practiced
their rhetoric, empty as usual and more squeak than roar, a
prelude to the inevitable climb-down. Tom DeLay's outrage and
Dennis Hastert's anger subsided when the polls told them that
doing something to help Elian would undermine their slogan for
this fall: "Vote Republican. We're not as bad as you think."

 Rep. Steve Largent of Oklahoma got the biggest Republican
piece of Elian. Mr. Largent had dug himself into a hole as a
member of the committee choosing the new House chaplain. In an
interview with the Catholic candidate, he asked whether the
priest's clerical collar might offend Protestants. Such a
question would not have raised an eyebrow in rural Oklahoma,
where Protestants and Catholics are grown-ups and engage each
other in real conversation, but in contemporary urban America,
where finding offense has become a growth industry, Mr. Largent
had stepped in a pile of the stuff that made Texas and Oklahoma
famous. The House leadership, terrified of losing the Catholic
vote, pressured Mr. Largent to do something.

 Enter Charlie Rangel, the Harlem Democrat who has been
leading the charge to send little Elian back to the paradise
where life is not really so bad. (Doesn't Fidel pass out fine
cigars to his congressional visitors?) Maybe, if Steve Largent
could do something for Charlie, Charlie could do something for
Steve. Whatever, soon afterward, Mr. Largent, who had been
leading the effort to grant citizenship to Elian, signed an op-ed
piece in the New York Times, a mawkish appeal to the government
to send Elian back to Fidel. What a coincidence: the organized
Catholic anger at Mr. Largent, now a nice Rangel Republican,
dissipated overnight.

 Just when it looked like this sordid episode couldn't get
any smarmier, it did. Government memoranda and e-mail unearthed
by court order (thanks to Judicial Watch) reveal in stark detail
just how desperate Bill Clinton, the State Department and the
Clinton kiddie corps are to kiss Fidel where the flies are
thickest. These internal documents reveal how the U.S. government
"coordinated" with Fidel the strategy for sending Elian home,
even the timing of the litigation, and how it tried to maneuver
the Catholic Church into taking the heat for the betrayal of
Elian.

 And finally, how the Clinton administration colluded with
Fidel Castro over how to manage U.S. newspaper and television
coverage of the incident — to give "guidance." A generation ago,
a suggestion that a presidential administration was trying to
"manage" the news caused an uproar that ruined the reputations of
decent men. Now we shall see how the mavens of the American
media, who have given standing ovations to Janet Reno for her
politically correct mismanagement of the Elian affair, will react
to the news that the Clinton administration sought the assistance
of Fidel in pulling their strings.

 One day Elian Gonzalez may have the opportunity in a free
Cuba to reflect on how his mother gave her life to get him to the
land of the free and the home of the brave — and who it was who
betrayed him for their own cheap ends.


Wesley Pruden is editor in chief of The Times




[CTRL] Say goodbye to medical privacy

2000-06-09 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

[Expanding prescriiption drug benefits to ALL Medicare recipients
(whether they need them or not) is yet a further intrusion of the
government into our privacy. Don't think, for a second, the
government would then let the doctors prescribe what the doctors
think is best for you. There will be, within a couple years of
implementation of such a program, a Medicare formulary, limiting
the number of medications that Medicare would cover. But, you and
your prescriptions would be entered into a government data base.
--MS]

Say goodbye to medical privacy

by David Limbaugh, WND

Aside from psychological reasons, why can't the Clintons be
straightforward about things?  It's easy to understand why Bill
wouldn't want to be candid about his "affairs," but what about
his policy proposals?

If the Clintons' ideas were superior, they would have no motive
to be deceitful about them, right?  Think again.  The truth is
that they know that despite liberalism's virtual monopoly in the
mainstream press, the universities, and most of our other
cultural institutions, it is still not the majority philosophy
among most voters.  So they have to disguise many of their
programs or, in some cases, secrete them from the public
altogether.

Remember Hillary's notorious plan to socialize American medicine?
While pretending that it was going to be produced by the people
"from the bottom up," she kept her task force meetings secret to
the point of earning a rebuke by U.S. District Judge Royce
Lamberth.  But why?  What did she have to hide?  Well, plenty, as
it turns out.  Hillary's 1,300-page plan would have nationalized
14 percent of the nation's economy, a fact she could ill-afford
to have disclosed.

And now, she and Bill both claim to have learned their lesson
from that fiasco.  But are they honest about that lesson?  What
they want you to believe is that they are willing to compromise
and abandon their goal of nationalized health care.  Actually,
the only lesson they learned is that to accomplish their goal of
socialized medicine they must do it incrementally, one
inconspicuous step at a time.

Although Hillary Care suffered a humiliating defeat in 1994, some
of its insidious components survived and became law in 1996 with
the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996
(HIPAA), a.k.a., Kennedy-Kassebaum.  Hillary's plan contained a
provision regarding a "unique health identifier" (a patient ID
number) that could be used to track each person's medical history
electronically from cradle to grave.  This gem was resurrected
and codified into law in HIPAA in 1996.  So far, our Brave New
World medical ID numbers have not been created, but soon will be
if something isn't done.

Though the provision for the creation of the medical ID numbers
is already in the law, Texas Congressman Ron Paul has been
successful so far in leading an effort to block appropriations
for implementation of this provision.  This week, this
appropriations bill (HR 4577) will be voted on again, and if it
passes, the unique health identifier -- the medical ID number --
will be created for all of us.

It gets worse.  This year, the Department of Health and Human
Services proposed "medical privacy regulations" that will apply
to all individuals, whether their health care is paid for
privately or by the government.  Those who love freedom and
cherish privacy should be alarmed about these developments.
Here's why:

While Clinton touts the medical ID number and the proposed
medical privacy regulations as enhancing our medical privacy,
they do just the opposite.  The assignment of these numbers is
the first step toward universal health care, and the regulations
severely undermine our privacy. The government will be entitled
to access our private medical records without our consent and the
government -- not you -- will decide who else will have access to
our records.  Under the regulation's health plans, providers,
hospitals, researchers, medical students, government agents, law
enforcement officials, and whomever else the government decides
will have access.  Are you nervous yet?  If not, be aware that
the regulations will also limit patients' access to their own
records, especially in malpractice cases.  And they will limit
our right to sue others for breaching our medical
confidentiality.

If Ron Paul fails to convince Congress again to block funding for
creating the ID numbers, all is not lost.  He also has prepared a
bill to repeal the HIPAA provision that requires the adoption of
our ID numbers.  This is a good start but another provision also
empowers the government to adopt those privacy regulations that
authorize the collection and sharing of our medical records
without our consent. Congress should repeal that provision as
well.

Once again, the Clintons, under the guise of expanding our
rights, are taking them away.  If we don't derail this train now,
our chances of thwarting Hillary's grandiose scheme to socialize
health care may be out the 

[CTRL] Hillary's Secret Service Blocking Tough Questions: Bureau Chief

2000-06-09 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

Newsmax-Inside Cover

Friday June 9, 2000; 6:50 AM EDT

Hillary's Secret Service Blocking Tough Questions: Bureau Chief

The New York press corps hasn't been able to agressively question
Senate candidate Hillary Clinton because she's using her Secret
Service security detail to physically block reporters.

 That was the charge made Thursday night by New York Post Albany
bureau chief Fred Dicker, who says the first lady is "using the
resources of the federal government to prevent us from just
having the kind of access you would take for granted with any
other politician."

 Appearing on CNBC's Hardball, Dicker was asked by host Chris
Matthews why the first lady refuses to appear on the Sunday TV
talk shows:

 MATTHEWS: Why is Hillary dodging the big interview programs?

 DICKER: Because she's afraid of making a mistake. Let me note
that I have my own radio show, Chris, and she won't come on with
me. So she's dodging me too.

 MATTHEWS: Who are her chosen children? Who will Hillary give
interviews to? Anybody?

 DICKER: Well, she hasn't recently in the last several weeks.
Very, very brief. They'll bring in a TV reporter for four minutes
and say, "You have one or two questions, then get out," and then
bring in another one.

 MATTHEWS: Why don't you folks in the local press corps grill her
on who she is and where she came from?

 DICKER: I'll give you the answer to that, Chris. We try and the
Secret Service stops us. I mean, she'll show up at a local event
and you'll go up to her like you would any candidate, and say,
"Mrs. Clinton, can I ask you" and she runs off and the Secret
Service blocks us. She's done that time after time after time.
You can't get to her. She's using the resources of the federal
government to prevent us from just having the kind of access you
would take for granted with any other politician.

 In fact, Dicker's charges that Mrs. Clinton has been using her
security detail as a kind of praetorian guard-media shield are
not new.

 During a 1996 fund-raising swing through Arizona, local
reporters complained that Secret Service was interfering with
press coverage that posed no physical risk to the first lady
whatsoever.

"Reporters at the Monday afternoon speech were kept at arm's
length from the first lady by Secret Service agents, who warned
the press not to yell out questions," reported The Arizona
Republic at the time.

Hours earlier, the Supreme Court had rejected a White House bid
to keep some of Mrs. Clinton's Whitewater records sealed.

Incensed by the abuse of both the presidential security detail
and the First Amendment, Arizona Rep. Matt Salmon complained to
The Washington Times, "It appears (the president) has targeted
the Secret Service to silence his critics. The Secret Service is
paid to protect the president and his family from physical harm,
not to protect them from tough questions."

 Last March, at least one reporter accused Mrs. Clinton's
bodyguards of physically attacking journalists as they tried to
cover her march in New York's St. Patrick's Day parade, where she
was roundly booed.

 "Secret Service agents literally are pushing press to the
ground," Metro Network newsman Glenn Schuck told a WABC-NY radio
audience. "They just lost their minds, in my opinion. I mean they
just started pushing and shoving; female camera people five feet
tall were getting thrown to the ground, cameras flying. Myself, I
was grabbed by the shoulder, I was thrown back over. I think
somebody from Channel 11 landed on my back. From that point it
really didn't get any better." (See: Hillary's Secret Service
Agents Rough Up Reporters as St. Pat's Crowd Boos)

 The bizarre episode was dismissed by Schuck's media colleagues,
including one Washington based columnist who told NewsMax.com she
didn't believe it happened even after hearing Schuck's report on
tape.

The night of the parade a local CBS news broadcast showed footage
of a Clinton bodyguard blocking a CBS crew's camera lens with his
hand. CBS was trying to film spectators as they booed and jeered
the first lady.

 Though New York reporters are just beginning to complain about
Mrs. Clinton's inaccessability, Dicker is the first journalist of
any prominence to publicly object to Hillary's heavy handed use
of the Secret Service.

 Five weeks after the St. Patrick's Day assaults, an NBC camera
crew was beaten by federal agents as they attempted to film the
Clinton administration's gunpoint abduction of Elian Gonzalez.

The network's soundman was slammed in the head with a rifle butt.
An NBC cameraman was slugged twice and held down by an agent who
kept a boot on his back for the duration of the raid. He was
later hospitalized. Both were told they'd be shot if they moved.
(See: NBC Cameraman Hospitalized After Elian Raid Beating)

 The assaults were corroborated by a third member of the NBC crew
and at least one Gonzalez family friend who witnessed the attack.

In fact, as reports of harassment and violence against
journalists multiply, 

[CTRL] Johnny Chung: Bribing Miss Hazel

2000-06-09 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

June 9, 2000

Bribing Miss Hazel

The inside story of
payoffs to Hillary, O'Leary

© 2000 WorldNetDaily.com

By Johnny Chung

I know there are some people out there who find the concept of
government conspiracies amusing. Despite any evidence that
surfaces pointing to government cover-ups of illegal activity,
"level-headed" citizens give Uncle Sam's agents the benefit of
the doubt and call the rest of us "paranoid."

Those people may call themselves level-headed, but I say they are
ostriches burying their heads in the sand. As the saying goes,
it's not being paranoid if they're really after you.

Webster defines conspiracy as "a joining secretly with others for
an evil purpose; a plot."

I submit to you that extortion and attempting to conceal the
crimes of the president of the United States -- the leader of the
free world -- are indeed evil purposes.

Government conspiracies exist. I know this because I have been
used in some of them. Let's review just two of them now.

After two and a half years, the Justice Department finally handed
over documents to the House Government Reform Committee, which
released them this week. The documents add to the mounting pile
of evidence demonstrating a conspiracy at the highest levels of
government in the Chinagate scandal.

Eager reporters writing their stories called me up with many
questions. But they all wrote piecemeal stories, focusing on
different aspects of the whole story instead of giving the big
picture. I'd like to add to those stories by giving you a bit
more inside information straight from the horse's mouth.

One of the newly-released documents was a memo from FBI Director
Louis Freeh, recommending the appointment of an independent
counsel to investigate former Department of Energy Secretary
Hazel O'Leary for involvement in Chinagate.

In case you're thinking, "Haven't I already heard that some
high-ranking official recommended an independent counsel?" you're
right.

Former Justice Department task force supervisor Chuck LaBella
recommended an external investigation. Even the judge that
sentenced me for my involvement in the scandal, Manuel Real,
found it suspicious that no investigator had been appointed.

That's right: All three of these gentlemen -- the FBI director,
the DOJ task force leader and the judge -- thought it necessary
to have an independent counsel investigate the huge scandal. But
it never happened.

In the summer of 1996, I agreed to donate $25,000 to O'Leary's
favorite charity, Africare, at the suggestion of the secretary's
aide Corlis Moody. The money was to secure a place for China
Petro at a political meeting with O'Leary.

Moody said an invitation letter to China Petro signed by O'Leary
would be sent. Indeed, I received the faxed invitation with
O'Leary's signature, and I faxed it to a China Petro official.

Later, an African America gentleman claiming to be an employee of
the Energy Department came to my apartment in D.C. to collect the
$25,000 check to Africare. He also said he needed to retrieve the
faxed invitation I had received that morning because the
inspector general of the Energy Department said that it was
illegal.

So I gave him the check along with the fax, but I emphasized my
desire to secure the meeting.

After the Chinagate scandal erupted, FBI and DOJ prosecutors
asked me about the O'Leary incident. They showed me a copy of the
invitation, but it had been altered.

"This is not the one I saw before," I told the agents. They went
back to do some more digging and found the original version.

Nevertheless, Attorney General Janet Reno sent a letter to the
U.S. Appeals Court saying there was no need for an independent
counsel to investigate the bribery. O'Leary knew nothing about my
connection to her close aide Corlis Moody, Reno said. And
besides, the invitation letter had been signed by autopen.

Now, keep in mind I knew nothing about Africare before this
incident. Why would I donate money to an organization I knew
nothing about? All I knew was that I paid for a meeting, and I
got it. By the way, Hazel O'Leary is the director of Africare.
Coincidence? I think not.

The 1996 campaign finance scandal, also referred to as Chinagate,
is about money for political access. It's about how money can
influence U.S. elections and buy political power. This Justice
Department promised the American people it would turn every stone
in order to get to the truth. High-ranking government officials
said they would follow the money and that they would let the
chips fall where they may.

It's been three years. So far, the chips have all fallen on the
donors -- me and 24 other people, none of whom are part of the
White House administration, the Democratic National Committee, or
people close to the president, first lady and vice president. We
have become the poster boys of the Chinagate scandal.

Americans have seen good, professional, career prosecutors and
officials in the Justice Department leave, one-by-one, out of
frustration because 

[CTRL] A forgotten profession called journalism

2000-06-09 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

Capitol Hill Blue-Daily Rant

A forgotten profession called journalism

By Doug Thompson

June 9, 2000

The mainstream media woke up this week.

Some of them realized Al Gore is a liar.

This shocking piece of information did not come as the result of
any dogged investigative work by any of these bozos, but through
a series of memos that surfaced during a Congressional probe.

In those memos, FBI director Louis Freeh said Gore's sworn
statements regarding his involvement in illegal campaign
fundraising activities did not jive with the facts.

Stop the presses. Gore lies. Film at 11.

Suddenly, the fat and happy Washington Post, New York Times and
others are reporting that Al Gore is as unfamiliar with the truth
as his boss, the never-truthful William Jefferson Clinton.

Too bad these clowns don't read the independent Internet press.
We've been reporting this story for months.

Once again, the big boys are left with their thumbs up a certain
posterior orifice.

But now that the media mavens have all this startling
information, just what will they do with it?

Nothing.

That's right.

Nothing.

The Washington Post doesn't give a damn about the many crimes of
the Clinton administration.

Never have.

Never will.

The New York Times won't unleash its considerable resources to
dig into Al Gore's complicity in the morally-bankrupt
administration that Bill Clinton once said would be "the most
ethical" in history.

Won't bother.

They don't consider such stuff news.

NBC News will give us videotape of a meaningless argument between
O.J. Simpson and the sister of the ex-wife he killed, but won't
spend a single second on the criminal activities of Al Gore.

Forget CBS. Dan Rather has his nose rammed so far up Bill
Clinton's butt he couldn't smell a story if it sat on his face.

And ABC can't be bothered. Leonardo DiCaprio wasn't available to
interview Al Gore.

"I tried pitching this story to my editors," says one Washington
reporter I know, "but they weren't interested. They said the
public is tired of the misdeeds of the Clinton administration."

Too bad these guys forgot their job was to cover news, not listen
to focus groups and public opinion polls to determine that they
should and should not cover.

CBS laid off a bunch of people on its news web site this week.

No wonder.

People don't go to CBS for news (according to the Neilsen
ratings, they don't go there for much else either).

The Washington Post has spent more than $100 million on its web
site and will lose at least half that much this year.

They should. If you want to know what movies are playing in
Washington, the Post site is a good place to visit.

But don't waste your time if you want news.

News isn't a marketable commodity in today's greed-driven world,
so the so-called media companies can't waste their time with it.

Too bad.

Journalism used to be a profession.

Now it's a business.

Once it became a business, both the profession and the public
lost.



Doug Thompson is the founder, editor and publisher of Capitol
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[CTRL] Clinton Snubs Colorado Students Who Helped Free Sudanese Slaves

2000-06-09 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

Capitol Hill Blue

Clinton Snubs Colorado Students Who Helped Free Sudanese Slaves

Friday, June 09, 2000

By MICHAEL ROMANO

A Colorado teacher whose students have helped to free slaves in
the Sudan denounced President Clinton on Thursday for ignoring
the group's long-standing request for a face-to-face meeting.

Barb Vogel accused the president of disregarding the plight of
the Sudanese, who have been enslaved by the thousands during a
decades-long civil war that has claimed as many as 2 million
lives.

"The whole world has given its attention to this issue," Vogel
said after a press conference that featured two dozen of her
students from Highline Elementary School in Aurora, a Denver
suburb. "But not the president. Where has he been?"

Meantime, she said, it is children like her fifth-graders who
have tried to focus the world's attention on the woeful
conditions in the impoverished African nation.

The Aurora students have raised more than $50,000, beginning
three years ago with a single penny in a collection jar. The
money has been given to organizations that go to Sudan and ransom
slaves to set them free.

Vogel's students, who formed an organization called S.T.O.P.
(Slavery That Oppresses People) Club, hoped to meet with Clinton
and Secretary of State Madeleine Albright to press their
concerns. She said the students sent about 1,000 letters to the
White House requesting a meeting with the president.

"We got back a mimeographed letter and a picture of his cat and
dog," said Vogel. "The president has turned his back on America's
best these children."

Clinton has been to Europe, Russia and Japan in the past week and
a half.

White House spokeswoman Elizabeth Newman said the president will
be in town Friday, when he is scheduled to meet with the
president of Mexico.

"He's been gone," she said of the president. "With regards to the
schedule, it would have been very difficult."

She said that "obviously, the president lauds the children and
their teacher for their work in promoting freedom around the
world."

The crusade has caught on with students around the world.

"We want to bring slavery to an end," said Jacob Wagner, 13, an
eighth-grader who was among the students who launched the
S.T.O.P. Club. "If we keep asking for help, maybe these people
(in Congress) won't just ignore us."

Rep. Tom Tancredo, the Colorado Republican who traveled to the
Sudan last year and has become something of a congressional
sponsor for the students, said he believes the president decided
not to meet with Vogel's group because "he'd be embarrassed by
the questions they'd ask him."

Noting that Clinton has met twice since last summer with students
from Columbine High School, adopting gun control as one of his
top priorities, Tancredo claimed the president wasn't focusing on
the Sudan crisis because it is not "politically expedient."

At a press conference, Tancredo delivered a personal appeal to
Clinton.

"The administration has repeatedly ignored this catastrophe in
Africa," Tancredo said. "So today, with the help of these
students, we bring the tragedy to Washington and America. I hope
you are listening, Mr. President."

© 2000 Scripps Howard News Service



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[CTRL] Drudge: TINA BROWN SMASHES DRUDGE, AS SEX BOOK ON CLINTON CRITICS IS PUT ON ICE!

2000-06-09 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

X DRUDGE REPORT X FRIDAY JUNE 09 2000 11:46:22 ET X

TINA BROWN SMASHES DRUDGE, AS SEX BOOK ON CLINTON CRITICS IS PUT
ON ICE!

**Exclusive**

DISNEY's TALK/MIRAMAX says they had already received 5 chapters.

[The writer claims to have sent them 10.]

Author John Connolly for months had been labeling members of the
Office of the Independent Counsel as "fags", "faggots" and
"queers" during conversations with media figures and Washington
insiders.

Private investigators had been hired more than a year ago to dig
deep into the private sex lives and business dealings of major
and minor Clinton critics.

But it wasn't until earlier this week, when the Internet exposed
details of the secret project, that TALK editor Tina Brown,
MIRAMAX chief Harvey Weinstein and others became highly concerned
INSANE CLOWN POSSE might be too hot to produce!

[Harvey Weinstein, co-chair at Miramax, sent $10,000 to the
Clinton Defense Fund. Tina Brown gave Hillary's senate campaign
$1,000 on 9/13/99.] On Friday, Brown  Co. were working out
details of their announcement that they will not, in the end, be
publishing POSSE.

Meanwhile, editor Tina Brown was smashing the DRUDGE REPORT for
daring to expose the project -- even after legal threats from
famed powerlawyer Floyd Abrams.

Abrams, calling from Israel on behalf of DISNEY's TALK/MIRAMAX,
warned of immediate legal action against this report if new
details were released and circulated about the controversial
project.

For her part, Brown was e-mailing a cagey response to DISNEY
stockholders who expressed concern whether company money was
being used to investigate the sex lives of Starr's staff and
others.

One DISNEY stockholder e-mailed: "Someone should bring a
shareholder suit against Tina Brown and her lack of judgement,
and for this waste of corporate assets."

Brown shot back: "Your criticism is reminiscent of the Queen in
Alice in Wonderland: Sentence first, verdict later!"

Brown continued to the stockholder. "You are sadly misinformed.
Publications should be judged by what they publish, not by
partisan agendas and website speculation."

But TALK/MIRAMAX book editor John Burnham confirmed earlier this
week that the author did receive a cash advance to develop his
investigation.

Author Connolly writes in his working introduction to POSSE,
which was obtained by the DRUDGE REPORT:

"One of the lawyers [NAME DELETED TO PROTECT IDENTITY] had been
engaged in a four year illicit sexual relationship with a low
level employee. A spokesperson for [NAME DELETED TO PROTECT
IDENTITY] also had been involved in a strange extramarital
relationship... To complicate matters even more there are no less
than six gays involved in the case. Two of the 'elves', and three
of Starr's young male proteges were gay..."

"Connolly even spread around town that I was gay because I
volunteer for a local Fire Department," former congressional
investigator Dave Bossie revealed earlier this week.

Will Connolly's "investigation" soon find a new home?

Will SALON.COM spend what little money it has left to gain access
to the scraps?

Will the NEW YORK POST's PAGE SIX continue to do false blind
items generated by Connolly's investigation?

Will the NEW YORK TIMES cover the publishing debacle?

Will editorial writers like Frank Rich or Sally Quinn express
outrage over the sex witch hunt and the use of the term "faggots"
and "queers" to describe government lawyers?

[After all, Tina Brown married her husband, Harry Evans, at the
East Hampton home of Ben Bradlee and Sally Quinn.]

Will White House aide Sidney Blumenthal once again deny spreading
sex stories?

Mickey Mouse apologizes.

The Magic Kingdom is once again safe for all ages.



Filed by Matt Drudge
Reports are moved when circumstances warrant
http://www.drudgereport.com for updates
(c)DRUDGE REPORT 2000


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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #2

2000-06-09 Thread Ric Carter

SkeptiNews 000609b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

* Yesterday's bulletins: http://web.pitas.com/skeptinews/08_06_2000.html
* Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
* PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh?
* Site of latest notices, praises, discoveries: http://skeptilog.pitas.com
* No Chupracabras were inhumanely interrogated to produce this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

$ Galactic Calendar For The Year 9 EB: http://www.paoweb.com/galcalad.htm
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# UFO Classical Music Concert Based On Roswell. -- On 22 June at the Royal
  Festival Hall in London, a celebrated gala concert will debut a new clas-
  sical music piece that aims to recreate a UFO close encounter! It is par-
  tly inspired by the Roswell case and will feature a soloist performing on
  8 unidentified pieces of metal to recreate the image of a 'finely tuned
  alien aircraft'  http://www.ufomind.com/ufo/updates/2000/jun/m09-005.shtml

# Chileans: US Took Custody Of Captured Chupacabras. 3 creatures - a male, a
  female  a child - were held by Chilean troops at the regiment's barracks
  for several hours.  Then a NASA team reportedly arrived by helicopter to
  take custody of them. Why? http://www.sightings.com/general2/chupacao.htm

: Have paranormalities impinged on your culture lately? Or has your culture
mucked with paranormalities? Would you rather be apprehended/entertained by
chupracabras/troops/concerts/deities/demons/me? How alien is your music? Eh?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# "Mirror Neurons" - Does the brain's innate capacity for mimicry explain
  the "great leap forward" of human evolution? The discovery of the biolo-
  gical basis for imitation may be the decade's most under-reported science
  story. Coverup? http://www.feedmag.com/essay/es346_master.html?alert

# Growing better chips.The same trick an oyster uses to make mother-of-pearl
  may ultimately enable researchers to ``grow'' ultra-mini computer chips.
  http://www.mercurycenter.com/svtech/news/breaking/merc/docs/083423.htm

# TELEPATHY CHIP: http://strangemag.com/anomalypages.html#telepathychip
# MICRO-CHIP IMPLANTS NOW BEING TESTED - INTELLI-CONNECTION/IBM 2020
  NEURAL CHIP IMPLANT: http://www.newsmakingnews.com/micro6,8,00.htm
# THE AMAZING STORY OF SHOO - Is He Able To Transmit ULF Signals
  Mentally? http://www.elfrad.org/shoo/research.html

: How well does your brain work? Would it work better with implanted chips?
Would you rather have chips implanted/grown/teleported into your brain? Do
you radiate/broadcast/transmit? On what frequencies? Is anyone listening?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Tourist finds ancient Egypt art.AIN SOKHNA ROAD, Egypt (AP) Archaeologists
  aren't exaggerating when they say ancient treasures abound in the sands of
  Egypt. So many that even a tourist from Iowa, out on a desert outing, can
  make a notable discovery: cave drawings that could date back thousands of
  years before the birth of Christ. Just looking for sea urchins, he claims:
  http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2567168588-146

@ Message from Cochise, thru Lyara, channel, Arizona: "I am Cochise. I have
  waited for a long time to come back to serve the Earth... I am working now
 with the Intergalactic Fleet as well as aboard the mothership 'Dove' (head-
 quarter of Sananda)." Of course: http://channeling.net/LyurAC/starnatUS.htm
@ Pictures of Star Beings: http://channeling.net/LyurAC/AmassiaPicsUS.htm

: What ancient/alien/accidental information have you uncovered lately? D'ya
stay in touch with Egyptians/Apaches/Reptoids of bygone days? Are they sexy?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Stonehenge execution revealed. (BBC) An ancient skeleton excavated from
  Stonehenge has revealed a grisly execution at the famous site. Shocking!
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_784000/784348.stm

# Also - Stonehenge face mystery - and it's not Regis Philbin:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_474000/474977.stm
# Woodhenge discovered near Stonehenge - Kelphenge found offshore:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_434000/434821.stm
# SACRED GEOMETRY: http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.com/geometry.html

# Strange Block  Rectangular Object On Surface of Eros - megaliths on
  Jovian moon? Built by whom? Why? http://near.jhuapl.edu/iod/2503
# LOCKERIDGE - UK - CROP FORMATION - The Same Metrology Units Used By
  The Designers Of The Giza Pyramid, Stonehenge and Silbury Hill.
  http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.com/geometry.html#lockeridge

: D'ya perform executions/fornications/implantations/revelations/taxations
at your sacred sites/shrines/megaliths? Is the geometry of your sacred site
significant/unearthly/impossible/maddening? Do mad gods need geometry? Why?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ You thought you'd seen it all when it came to bizarre Net-based fetishes.
  http://bachelorguy.com/bellybuilders/ Then again, you've probably never
  heard of Macrophilia, 

[CTRL] TMG-MARS UPDATE

2000-06-09 Thread DIG alfred webre

From the Millennium Group:
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We have just posted an update to the Mars/76P story. It appears that
there has been some type of interaction between Mars and the comet.
Due to the limitations on our ability to research the problem, we
have only adjunct evidence of an encounter between the two. However
we
are sure that the powers that be have plenty of information that they
are NOT sharing. Come and see what we have for you at:
http://www.millenngroup.com/repository/repository.html

We would also like to introduce you to one our new sponsors:
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Not only do they provide some great information on their page, but
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them. Supporting them is supporting TMG. (Banner and button programs
are available - just ask!)

I would like to personally thank everyone that has passed along
messages concerning Chuck Shramek's death. This was personally very
difficult for me and your emails really helped. Thank you.

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[CTRL] ECTV - Geomagnetic Storm and Aurora Watch Update

2000-06-09 Thread DIG alfred webre

 Geomagnetic Storm and Aurora Watch Update...06/09/00
 by Mitch Battros  (ECTV)

 It is refreshing to see the mainstream media take hold of this incredible
 unfolding that is taking place. I found a terrific web site
 to monitor aurora activity all around the world. It comes from our friends
 at NOAA:  http://sec.noaa.gov/pmap/index.html

 In addition to possible red skies in selective areas, watch for continued
 "extreme weather" in most areas of the world. Also watch for increased
 volcano activity which is most likely directly related to the current
 solar storms.

 As you know, we have been witness to a sharp increase in seismic activity.
 It is my belief the increase in seismic events may not be related to the
 sun. Researchers have been able to show a direct correlation between the
 sun, volcano's and even forest fires, but I have not found conclusive
 evidence that supports a solar-earthquake relation. I am open to the idea.
 It sure would appear there would certainly be one, but I have not found it
 yet. I know, it does appear odd. But let's not lose sight of the fact that
 there is a dramatic current escalation of quakes.

 Seismologist had been very concerned of the low seismic activity over the
 last several months. As a result, there has been a tremendous build up
 along the ring of fire (and fault lines less known). There are many in the
 field who are concerned we may see a series of large quakes continue for
 some time. Watch for more 7.0's and maybe a couple of 8's. For all our
 sake, let's hope it would occur in a no, or low, populated area.

 This may be a good time to do an inventory on your survival or emergency
 gear. Also, we are still not out of range of possible power grid outages.

 Equation:
 Sunspots = Solar Flares = Magnetic Shift = Shifting Ocean and Jet Stream
 Currents = Extreme Weather


 Space Weather News

 Geomagnetic disturbances are finally subsiding after an interplanetary
 shock wave struck Earth's magnetosphere around 930 UT on June 8.  The
 event triggered intense aurora over sparsely-inhabited regions of northern
 Asia and the Pacific. However, by nightfall over North America conditions
 had quieted.  There is still a chance for isolated auroral substorms that
 might be visible tonight (June 8-9) at middle latitudes.

 The next opportunity for viewing aurora borealis may arrive as soon as
 June 10, when another solar wind disturbance is expected to reach Earth.
 For more information and updates please visit http://www.spaceweather.com

 Mitch Battros
 Producer - Earth Changes TV
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Re: [CTRL] [slickmisc] Re: rapist hits Gates but leaves Exxon alone??

2000-06-09 Thread Bard

Bob, I feel people who knowingly take risks,
must be prepared to suffer the consequences.
Insofar as MS products are concerned I feel
most people are computer illiterate and are
unable to determine if they're getting screwed.
When Co.'s become very powerful forces in the
marketplace however, and become publicly known
to manipulate the consumer; the end result,
I feel, will be a gradual dissipation of that
power permitting competitive forces to prevail
for the benefit of the consumer.
The problem is the unconstitutional intrusion
by the feds in the marketplace;  bailouts, etc.
Chrysler was a good example of producing
shoddy products.  On a larger scale, the
U.S. taxpayer bailout of the Mexican peso;
when crooks control the government as in Mexico
and, in connivance with the international banksters,
they use unfounded fear as a weapon to appease
the consumer.  Didn't work because the peso
was devalued more than half;  that bailout only
postponed what should have been the inevitable
collapse of a corrupt government.

Bard
Pro Libertate - For Freedom
BUCHANAN-Reform
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No more Greed..http://iresist.com/cgoc/coffee/
"the LOVE of money is the root of ALL evil."

 -Original Message-
 From: Bob Djurdjevic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 8:59 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: Re: [slickmisc] Re: rapist hits Gates but leaves Exxon alone??


 At 10:07 AM 6/9/2000 -0400, you wrote:

May 1, 2000
   
"While Joel Klein and his Justice Department were
publicly and distastefully
celebrating Judge Jackson's decision, the market
capitalization of Microsoft
was dropping by more than $100 billion. That's not
some theoretical figure.
It is a loss in real wealth ­ in many cases, in
retirement savings ­ of more
than two million direct shareholders of Microsoft
and of tens of millions
more who have substantial holdings of Microsoft in
their mutual funds and
annuities. ... [...]


 And who has forced these fools to put their savings into Wall
 Street or the
 juggernaut like Microsoft?  Now they, as well as Microsoft, are reaping
 what they had sowed.

 If you feel like feeling sorry for someone, it should be the
 owners of the
 companies Microsoft drove out of business or swallowed up on its
 way up to
 Wall Street riches.  (Sorry Rich, the pun not intended).  While stuffing
 America and the world with shoddy products.

 For a sanity check, just ask yourself... How many millions of
 people would
 be killed if airlines crashed as often as Windows does? Thank God our
 nuclear technology doesn't run on Windows.  Or does it?

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[CTRL] Pinching Pinochet

2000-06-09 Thread Alamaine

www.wsws.org

WSWS : News  Analysis : South  Central America
Chilean court revokes Pinochet's legal immunity
By Mauricio Saavedra
9 June 2000
Back to screen version

Chile's Court of Appeal formally announced on Tuesday that it had voted 13 to 9
to strip former dictator General Augusto Pinochet of the legal immunity he
enjoys as a lifetime senator. The court decision opens the way for Pinochet to
be prosecuted for some of the thousands of murders, torture and disappearances
that occurred under his 17-year military dictatorship.

Since the beginning of 1998, some of the military junta's victims and their
families have filed 109 criminal lawsuits against Pinochet, who came to power
with the backing of the United States in 1973 by toppling the Popular Unity
government headed by Socialist Party President Salvador Allende.

The judges based their decision on the first and most publicised of the cases
against Pinochet, known as the “Caravan of Death”. It concerns an army squad
created on Pinochet's orders to speed up the execution of political
prisoners—72 in total. Investigating Judge Juan Guzman Tapia and eight human
rights lawyers presented the case to the appeals judges last April.

The “Caravan of Death” case has already led to the detention of several high
and middle ranking officers who were involved in the death squad. The
detentions were facilitated by a re-interpretation of an amnesty law that has
served to protect the military over the past decade. Under the new
interpretation dozens of military officers have been charged with kidnapping
“disappeared” political prisoners.

Pinochet's team of lawyers is likely to contest the latest ruling in the
Supreme Court, arguing that he is too frail to stand trial. The British
government used the same arguments to free the former dictator earlier this
year after he had been held under house arrest for over a year pending a
decision on his extradition to face charges in Spain.

As soon as the appeals court decision was leaked to the press late last month,
it provoked a hostile reaction from the military and extreme rightwing parties
closely linked to the Pinochet dictatorship. More than 100 retired generals
immediately visited Pinochet at his home to give him support.
The military also held several meetings to deal with concerns among high and
middle ranking officers that others will be charged for the crimes under the
junta. QuePasa magazine reported that besides Pinochet “more than 70 uniformed
men, retired and active, are currently facing prosecution”.

The ultra-nationalist Independent Democratic Union (UDI) and National
Revonation (RN) parties also met with Pinochet to show their support, and
accused the courts of issuing a politicised verdict. These parties are
demanding an immediate end to all current criminal cases against the military.
UDI president Pablo Longueira accused the Concertacion coalition government,
headed by Socialist Party President Ricardo Lagos, of increasing the “level of
polarisation.”

But just as the court decision was split so there appear to be divisions within
ruling circles as a whole, including within the military and rightwing parties.
The army's commander-in-chief Ricardo Izurieta repeatedly assured those facing
charges of his support. But at the same time he has pointed to the need for the
military to work out a deal with the Lagos government.

On May 25, just a day after the appeals court decision was leaked, Izurieta
said: “I would dare to say that the army is concerned. It has to be understood
that the army cares immensely for general Pinochet...” He then added: “I have
spoken with the President [Lagos] on various occasions and he has told me that
he understands our situation, and he has affirmed that we are behind him, which
is true. And because we are behind him, I know that he will collaborate in our
problems.”

Right-wing political leader Joaquin Lavin, Lagos' chief opponent in last year's
presidential elections, has also adopted a conciliatory stance. Rather than
denouncing the judgment, he called on everyone “to respect the decision of the
courts, which have to act freely and independently”.

For his part Lagos, the first Socialist Party president since Allende, has made
clear that he has no intention of pursuing Pinochet and the military but will
leave the matter to the courts. He has called for reconciliation between the
military, the rightwing and those whom they persecuted.

The decision to revoke Pinochet's immunity reflects a sentiment in sections of
the ruling class not to bring Pinochet and his henchmen to justice but rather
to deal with the crimes of the dictatorship, at least cosmetically, so that the
entire historical chapter can be closed. Otherwise, as was seen during the
Pinochet's detention in Britain, the issue threatens to erupt again, opening up
divisions at home and damaging Chile's interests abroad.

A series of statements by Socialist Party officials indicate that they
understand their task. 

[CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #3

2000-06-09 Thread Ric Carter

SkeptiNews 000609c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

* Yesterday's bulletins: http://web.pitas.com/skeptinews/08_06_2000.html
* Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
* PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh?
* Site of latest notices, praises, discoveries: http://skeptilog.pitas.com
* No chickens were inhumanely caught by robots to produce this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ Head Out On The Highway: http://www.icontech.com/~lorinac/index.html
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# 'MARTIANS' ARAB HEIRS FIGHT NASA OVER PATHFINDER SPACECRAFT. Yemeni Men
  File Lawsuit Against NASA 'To Prevent It Revealing Any More Details About
  Conditions On Mars." It's our planet and keep your damn spacecraft away!
  http://reagan.com/HotTopics.main/HotMike/document-7.25.1997.0.html

@ MARS ANOMALIES: http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.com/mars_anomalies.html
$ THE MONKEY AND THE TETRAHEDRON: COMPELLING CONNECTIONS BETWEEN MARS, THE
  UFO DILEMMA AND THE FUTURE OF THE HUMAN RACE. Yet another thorny quandary?
http://shop.affinia.com/v2o/Store1/ProductInformation/95860402264329/4192671

@ The Mars Records: http://themarsrecords.com/Preface/preface.html
# Bad places in space - The hot and violent parts of the cosmos - oboy!
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_782000/782511.stm

: Do you claim a proprietary interest over any cosmic/cosmological entities?
Do outsiders horn in on your planet(oid)? Do they ruin the neighborhood? Was
it a bad neighborhood to begin with?Does it qualify for urban renewal funds?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Why did the human brain evolve beyond its pleistocene needs into a
  weeping, Wagner-loving, high art idolater? Manipulated by Reptilioids:
  www.booksonline.co.uk/booksol?ac=002741838810002pg=/00/4/29/bomat29.html
# More: www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/tim/2000/04/26/timfeasci02002.html

# THE MATHS GENE argues that the same features of the brain which enable us
  to use language also make for our talent with numbers. R U innumerate?
  http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/tim/2000/04/26/timfeafea02001.html
@ FIBONACCI etc: http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Personal/R.Knott/Fibonacci/

# Human beings share 98 percent of their genes with chimps. So what?
  For a skydiver who's fallen only two percent of his way to the earth,
  there's no turning back. http://www.feedmag.com/feature/fr335lofi.html
@ What Is Transhumanism? http://www.hedweb.com/nickb/transhumanism.htm

: Has your genus/species/brain evolved much lately? It evolution tiring? Is
it worth the effort? Would you rather evolve on your own; be created/molded
by deities/demons/aliens/angels/robots/me; move into a different realm? How?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Church encourages faith healing - People urged to believe in the healing
  power of prayer.(BBC) Anglican clergy are to take on a faith healing role.
  The Church of England is issuing its first report in 40 years on the min-
  istry of healing. While it warns that the topic must be approached with
  caution, it also encourage every parish church in the country to adopt the
  practice. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_782000/782299.stm

# Also: 'Healing power of prayer revealed' - HMOs pray for cost-cuts:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_485000/485268.stm
# Prayer 'works as a cure' - especially when used with antibiotics:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_778000/778564.stm

: Have your deities healed you lately? If you don't pray just right, do you
die? Do you die anyway? Do you deities sometimes just kill people for fun?
Have you tried praying to different deities? Which are most effective? Why?

# Black magic woman? UAE woman gets four months in jail for casting a spell.
  http://salon.com/travel/planet/2000/06/07/magic/index.html?CP=MORDN=310
# 'Dead' Malawian woman speaks - disrupts her own funeral - hymns stopped:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/africa/newsid_774000/774761.stm
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Feds Find No Conspiracy in King Case - but how hard did they look? (AP) -
  Rejecting a series of conspiracy allegations, an 18-month Justice Dept
  probe found no credible evidence that anyone but James Earl Ray killed
  civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr.It recommended no further inves-
  tigation. http://news.excite.com/news/ap/000609/14/news-king-assassination

# Congress Urged to Outlaw Genetic Discrimination
  http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/2607/sc/genes_dc_1.html
# FBI PROBES NEW HACKER ATTACK REPORTED BY SECURITY COMPANY.
  http://CNN.com/2000/TECH/computing/06/09/hacker.attack.02/index.html
@ They're watching: http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.com/intelligence.html

# Senator Seeks .Sex -- Senator Joseph Lieberman wants to segregate Internet
  bawdiness. He told the Commission on Child Online Protection that he wants
  to see ..xxx or .sex domains. And maybe .art if there's no prurience?
  

[CTRL] It is time for a massive legal challenge of lethal injection - Please post

2000-06-09 Thread DIG alfred webre

 Problems came with 2nd needle

   After three tries, officials abandon attempts to insert a second line into
 Bennie Demps. That may have violated execution protocols.
 By SHELBY OPPEL and JO BECKER

 © St. Petersburg Times, published June 9, 2000


 
 

 TALLAHASSEE -- Gov. Jeb Bush on Thursday staunchly defended the
 controversial handling of Florida's latest lethal injection, insisting state
 corrections officials performed the procedure "according to the textbook."

 "There was no botched nature to it at all," Bush said.

 But newly released details about the struggle to insert a second intravenous
 needle into three-time convicted killer Bennie Demps show state officials
 may have violated their own written execution protocol.

 That protocol says the medical technicians "shall complete" two intravenous
 lines into the condemned inmate. The governor's office says only one line
 was inserted, after technicians tried to insert a needle in at least four
 locations on Demps' body.

 In the wake of Demps' execution, other questions surfaced among death
 penalty opponents about the qualifications of the medical technicians who
 attempted to insert the needle and about the highly secretive procedure that
 has developed in the six months since the state switched its method of
 execution to lethal injection.

 Demps' final words -- a six-minute diatribe describing repeated attempts to
 insert the needle in his leg and groin -- has death row attorneys preparing
 to challenge lethal injection as cruel and unusual punishment.

 Michael Reiter is the attorney for convicted murderer Thomas Provenzano, who
 is scheduled to die June 20. Citing the state's history of botched
 executions, Reiter said: "I don't think they have the proper training. I
 don't think they have the competence and they make a mess of things."

 Demps' last request was to ask for an investigation into his execution.
 Alachua County State Attorney Rod Smith declined that request, made Thursday
 by Demps' attorney, concluding, "Mr. Demps was legally executed for a
 murder."

 But Smith gave the most graphic indication yet of what happened to Demps in
 the hour before a curtain parted to allow witnesses to see him strapped to a
 gurney in the death chamber.

 In a written statement, Smith said an observer from his office described
 five punctures in Demps' body -- confirming Demps' dying claims. The marks
 were a large-bore needle mark in Demps' right groin, a small incision inside
 his right ankle and two puncture wounds in his right arm. His left arm
 showed a mark from the intravenous needle that carried the fatal drugs into
 Demps' bloodstream.

 Before dying, Demps asserted prison officials began attempts to insert
 needles at 5:40 p.m. and made a final cut in his leg at 6:20 p.m.

 Justin Sayfie, a spokesman for Bush, gave this chronology Thursday about how
 the marks and puncture wounds appeared:

 After the first intravenous needle was successfully inserted into Demps'
 left arm, officials attempted to insert a second needle into his right arm,
 his right groin and finally into his right ankle. Failing to find a vein in
 any of those three places, officials abandoned the effort and decided to use
 only one intravenous needle for the execution, Sayfie said.

 Before dying, Demps complained that the process was painful and caused him
 to bleed "profusely."

 "That's clearly torture," said Abe Bonowitz, director of the newly formed
 Floridians for Alternatives to the Death Penalty.

 C.J. Drake, spokesman for the Department of Corrections, disagreed.

 "This guy spoke for up to seven minutes so it's hard to believe this guy was
 in that much pain," he said.

 "But for the needles, it's not an invasive procedure."

 When corrections officials abandoned the attempt to insert the second
 intravenous needle, they appeared to violate their own protocol, which
 states: "The designated members of the Execution Team shall complete the
 primary and alternate IV and the heart monitor setup(s)."

 Demps was executed Wednesday for the slaying of another Florida State Prison
 inmate. He also had been convicted of killing two other people.

 Bush, visiting Tampa on Thursday, said justice was served.

 "It wasn't botched. They went according to protocol, and it worked. . . .
 There was no botched nature to it at all," the governor said. "It gives me
 no great joy, but he was not in pain. Lethal injection worked. And it was
 all done according to the textbook, so that's just the way it is."

 The department, which has presided over three botched executions in the last
 nine years, has a history of not following execution protocol. After Allen
 "Tiny" Lee Davis died in the electric chair in a bloody spectacle last year,
 an attorney for Provenzano challenged the state's use of the electric chair.

 The state Supreme Court rejected his claims, but scolded the department.

 "Once 

[CTRL] Kosovo + 1 Year

2000-06-09 Thread Alamaine

From http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-373es.html

}}Begin
Cato Policy Analysis No. 373
June 10, 2000

Dubious Anniversary:
Kosovo One Year Later
by Christopher Layne and Benjamin Schwarz
Christopher Layne is a visiting fellow in foreign policy studies at the Cato
Institute. Benjamin Schwarz is a correspondent for the Atlantic Monthly
.

Executive Summary

One year after NATO ended its bombing campaign against Yugoslavia, the Clinton
administration’s Kosovo policy is a conspicuous failure. Kosovo is now the
scene of a brutal ethnic cleansing campaign carried out by NATO’s erstwhile de
facto ally, the Kosovo Liberation Army, an organization profoundly inimical to
America’s interests and professed values. The KLA is also currently fomenting
an insurgency elsewhere in Serbia, which promises to destabilize the Balkans
even further.
The Clinton administration has embarked on yet another multi-billion-dollar
nation-building adventure, which many analysts suggest will entangle the U.S.
military for a decade or longer. This situation could have been avoided.
Because of its inept diplomacy and strategic miscalculation, the administration
bears a large measure of responsibility for both Kosovo’s humanitarian crisis a
year ago and the KLA’s postwar thuggery. It is now clear that the
administration’s claims of "horrific slaughter" and attempts at "genocide" by
the Serbs were gross exaggerations designed to whip up support for intervention
from a skeptical Congress and public.

Confronting Kosovo’s depressing prospects, the administration consoles itself
that, as President Clinton says, it "did the right thing in the right way" when
it intervened. Even granting that doubtful premise, this is not enough to
exonerate policymakers from their responsibility for the situation the United
States confronts today. In the real world, policymakers are judged by the
consequences of their actions, not by their intentions. The Kosovo war has not
vindicated the administration’s doctrine of "virtuous power." By waging an
avoidable war, the Clinton administration has saddled the United States with a
host of intractable problems.

 Full Text of Policy Analysis No. 373 (PDF, 19 pgs, 79 Kb)
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[CTRL] Let's See ... Legacy

2000-06-09 Thread Alamaine

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Samizdat 2000
by Christine Stone
Antiwar.com
The Legacy of Clinton's Foreign Policy
June 9, 2000

As the Clinton era draws to a close the pundits have already started to dissect
the administration's foreign policy over the past eight years. The subject
seems to generate a certain amount of confusion but the verdict seems to be
that the results have been "mixed."

The confusion is, no doubt, partly based on the fact that Bill Clinton comes
from the broad Left which was always supposed to favour policies of détente and
non-aggression – Bill himself famously demonstrated against the war in Vietnam.

It comes a something of a shock to confront the actual record of his
administrations which has been one of unbounded aggression, interference in and
bullying towards the outside world.

When Clinton was reelected in 1996 a friend of mine predicted that a
"whirlwind" would henceforth descend on the planet and that, indeed, seems to
have been the case. Even where the tools used to promote US interests have been
labeled with bromides like "economic reform" or "democratization" the results
have been the same: a world, literally seething in chaos.

Among the president's critics as well as conspiracy theorists there is a firmly
held belief that the US began to break free from the constraints of the Cold
War and pursue world hegemony as soon as the Soviet Union disappeared in 1991.
"Our first objective" according to a Pentagon planning document excerpts of
which appeared in the New York Times in 1992 "is to prevent the reemergence of
a new rival …first, the US must show the leadership necessary to establish and
protect a new order." But, against this theory there is much evidence that the
Bush administration did not want to see the collapse either of the Soviet Union
or Yugoslavia (remember the "chicken Kiev" speech) and the early Clintonites,
despite campaign rhetoric, were also timid to begin with – they did nothing to
aid the Bosnians in their brutal war for independence.

Far from it – they sat back for three years and let the situation deteriorate
under a fuzzy UN mandate. They refused to accede to demands for the UN arms
embargo against the Bosnian government to be lifted – humanitarian wars were
not yet on the agenda. And, they only supported limited NATO air strikes when
TV pictures of massacres near the small town of Srebrenica were appearing
perilously close to another American election.

It is difficult now to recall that Slobodan Milosevic was then the favourite
with the negotiators, mediators and politicians who ploughed to and fro between
Belgrade and the Western capitals in the early nineties. In the first edition
of his memoirs, To End a War (removed from the post-Kosovo second edition)
Richard Holbrooke singles him out as the most convivial member of the
Izetbegovic/ Tudjman/Milosevic trio who negotiated the Dayton peace accords in
1995.

Politicians, both European and American hurried to Belgrade after Dayton to
gain the president's ear on behalf of this or that privatization. But he proved
less compliant than they had hoped. A coldness started to develop between
Belgrade and the Hurds, Holbrookes and Dinis who had once been its apologists.
However, by this stage the policy makers had probably come to the conclusion
that there had to be an overall plan to control the unpredictable and wayward
Balkans which involved degrading Serbia along with the other countries in the
region. In this they were helped by their allies in the European Union who had
embarked upon their own Balkanization project of destroying their members'
nation states.

The first stage of the scheme involved changing the regimes in Albania,
Bulgaria and Serbia itself. In November 1996 the Bulgarian Socialist government
of Zhan Videnov suddenly found itself in the middle of a financial crisis and a
run on the banks. Earlier that year, Videnov had been praised for his
'reformist' credentials by newspapers like the Financial Times but he, too, had
been making problems about selling off all the family silver. After violent
protests erupted in Sofia, Videnov and the Socialist government resigned to be
replaced in elections held in 1997 by a so-called centre-right government whose
members parroted all the necessary nostrums of 'market reform' and
'Euro/Atlantic structures'.

Albania, too, started to fall apart in 1996, while in Belgrade the opposition-
led Zajedno coalition held daily demonstrations to bring down the Milosevic
regime. However, whereas Bulgaria and Albania capitulated relatively speedily
to outside influence, the regime in Serbia survived. Other means had to be
resorted to. Enter the KLA accompanied by relentless propaganda from media
outlets like CNN detailing the persecution of the Albanians in Kosovo – a
strategy that was to end with NATO's attack on Serbia last year.

Even though pundits had been predicting upheaval in Kosovo since 1990, Serbs
and Albanians had long ago reached a kind of modus 

[CTRL] Big Money United Member Organizations

2000-06-09 Thread Nurev Ind Research

 Big money bought the ballot box!

Big Money United Member Organizations

 We, the members of  the organizations Multi-millionaires for Bush,
 Millionaires for Gore, and Billionaires for Forbes in 2004 are here to
 celebrate our victory.  The money has spoken! We have come together
 because, in spite of our differences, we have already won.  Any of the
 candidates we have already chosen will do just fine.  We bought them
 and now they speak for us.

 Big money gets to control the agenda!
 We and our candidates don't talk about child care, Patients' Bill of Rights,
 arms control, affordable housing, living wages, or predatory lending by
 credit card companies.  Personally, we already have everything we need
 and we just want more.

 We're the winners:
 We get more and everybody else gets less!

 All of the candidates' tax plans will do just fine—the plans all reward
 the very wealthy and nobody else.

 Any candidate's version of campaign finance reform is fine—each
 version leaves us in control.

 We like all the approaches to government's regulatory role—all of
 the approaches eliminate it!

 We love the economic policy of all our candidates—they'll farm out
 formerly public jobs and services to us and we''ll make a buck off
 them.

 We love their approach to economic growth—keep wages low,
 unions on the defensive, municipalities in hock to us, and the global
 South under the thumb of our financial institutions.

 Political participation is a good thing—when we pick the candidates.

 Leave the economic winners in charge. "That's our final answer."

 Brought to you by Big Money United, a light-hearted, non-partisan parody
 by United for a Fair Economy.

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Re: [CTRL] What a pathetic democracy.

2000-06-09 Thread Ronald L. Wilson

Luck won't work with a stacked deck.  It will take a revolution.
These self serving crooks are never going to go straight without a fight.
Ron Wilson

- Original Message -
From: "Nurev Ind Research" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 11:27 PM
Subject: [CTRL] What a pathetic democracy.


 6/7/00

 If we're REAL lucky we can get the biggest, most corrupt government on
earth to
 pass laws that will shut down one of its most lucrative operations.
Legalized
 bribery.

 How to do this?

 By encouraging the self same slime to accept ' finance reform ' or some
watered
 down facsimile thereof, as a rider on the Space Based Weapons Bill, A.K.A.
Son
 of Star Wars, A.K.A. SDI.

 Is this what Capitalism has done to the American democratic experiment?

 Granny D has overexerted herself on her long admirable journey across
America.
 Let the bastards stink from the head. SDI is a cure much worse than the
disease.

 Joshua2
 =


 - Original Message -
 From: Dennis Burke
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 1:01 PM
 Subject: Message from Granny D

 Dear Dennis, please send this out as soon as you can to my friends list.
 Doris


 Dear Friend,

 John McCain called to say he and Sen. Feingold will try to attach their
 soft money ban as an amendment on a big Defense Authorization bill today
in
 the U.S. Senate. John and Russ are sticking with this effort, and I think
 we should help them as much as possible by calling our own U.S. Senators
 and saying we care about campaign reform and we want them to vote in favor
 of the McCain-Feingold bill as an amendment to the defense bill.

 I know that long distance phone calls are expensive, but I hope you can do
 it anyway. All you have to do is call the Senate switchboard and they will
 put you through. If you forget their names, just ask the operator to help
 you. All they need is the name of your state, of course. There are two
 senators from your state, so two calls would be grand, but one would
 certainly help.

 I am very appreciative of any effort you can make on this. Time is very
 important! It may happen today or tomorrow!

 Very sincerely,

 Doris Haddock



 Ps. The Capitol switchboard is 202-225-3121. Also, if you can send this
 along to your friends, please do.

 Pps. Sen. McCain refused to attend a Bush fundraiser in Arizona last week
 because soft money would be raised in the room. I think that was the right
 thing to do. I hope some Dem. Senators will do the same in regard to Mr.
 Gore's soft money events.

 Pps. Here is a short speech I gave in Boston today, to try to help them
 save their campaign reform law, passed by the voters 2-to-1, from the
Mass.
 House, which is trying to gut it! If you live in Mass, I hope you will
 contact your state House member!!


 ?fontfamily?param HelveticaThank you,

 We elect our representatives to represent our values and our needs in
 shaping public policy and allocating community resources. In this work,
the
 regular citizen doesn't stand a chance if elected representatives must
 first go to wealthy special interests to fund their campaigns. The
 representation game is over before it begins.

 It is nothing particularly new. But in the past, the wealthy lived among
 us. We shopped in their stores on Main Street and their children went to
 grade school with ours. We shared the same community interests and values.

 We are now talking about inhumane organizations of inhuman scale and
 international allegiance. They care not if our main streets or our
families
 prosper or if they blow away. We must not have these monsters influencing
 our community decisions. We must not allow them to provide funds for our
 candidates, where those funds will deny us proper representation.

 We struggle here for the very survival of representative democracy. The
 people of Massachusetts have seen this problem and they have acted at the
 ballot box to create a new way to fund candidates, free of excessive
 influence by wealthy special interests.

 But those same wealthy interests have their agents in this state house,
and
 they will destroy what the people have done at the ballot, if they can. It
 is called the overturning of an election, and the method of this coup is
 the continuing use of campaign contributions to corruptly purchase public
 policy.

 The people have have spoken clearly in favor of this historic reform. Did
 the members of the House not hear them? Do they need for the people to
 speak again--this time in the coming House elections?

 At the ballot box, the people have provided for the public financing of
 candidates who choose to say No to all special interest campaign
donations.
 Their action comes at a time when citizens believe that their voices in
 government are drowned out by floods of special interest money, and they
 are right. No one seriously argues that point anymore--the flood is too
 great Pubic interest groups on the left and right, from 

[CTRL] FW: [AboutFreedom] Fw: Thank you letter

2000-06-09 Thread Bard

Something I thought I'd share with you.
Bard
Pro Libertate - For Freedom
BUCHANAN-Reform
http://gopatgo2000.com/default.htm
To support Mr. Buchanan in the White House
we must send to Congress Constitutional conservatives.

No more Democide..http://www2.hawaii.edu/~rummel/20TH.HTM
No more Greed..http://iresist.com/cgoc/coffee/
"the LOVE of money is the root of ALL evil."
No more Lawyers..http://www.jail4judges.org/
No more Illegals..http://www.webspawner.com/users/IllegalImmigration/



-Original Message-
From: Little Bit Farm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 11:44 AM
To: AboutFreedom
Subject: [AboutFreedom] Fw: Thank you letter


This is great!!

Little Bit Farm



  Whether you are a crazy screamin' liberal, or a well-adjusted logical
conservative, you have to enjoy this!
  Brad
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Date: Thursday, June 08, 2000 1:04 PM
Subject: Thank you letter


Dear Mr. President:

I recently saw a bumper sticker that said, "Thank me, I voted for
Clinton-Gore." So, I sat down and reflected on that and I am sending my
"Thank you" for what you have done, specifically:

Thank you for introducing us to Jennifer Flowers, Paula Jones, Monica
Lewinsky, Dolly Kyle Browning, Kathleen Willey, and Juanita Broaddrick.
Are
there any others that we should know about?

Thank you for teaching my 8 year old about oral sex.  I had really planned
to wait until he was about 10 or so to discuss it with him, but now he
knows
more about it than I did as a senior in college.

Thank you for showing us that sexual harassment in the work place
(especially the White House) and on the job is OK, and all you have to
know
is what the meaning of "IS" is. It really is great to know that certain
sexual acts are not sex and one person may have sex while the other one
involved does NOT have sex.

Thank you for reintroducing the concept of impeachment to a new generation
and demonstrating that the ridiculous plot of the movie, "Wag The Dog",
could be plausible after all.  Thanks for making Jimmy Carter look
competent, Gerald Ford look graceful, Richard Nixon look honest, Lyndon
Johnson look truthful, and John Kennedy look moral.

Thank you for the 72 House and Senate witnesses who have plead the 5th
Amendment and 17 witnesses who have fled the country to avoid testifying
about Democrat campaign fund raising.  Thank you for the 19 charges, 8
convictions, and 4 imprisonments from the Whitewater "mess" and the 55
criminal charges and 32 criminal convictions (so far) in the other
"Clinton"
scandals.

Thanks also for reducing our military by half, "gutting" much of our
foreign policy, and flying all over the world on "vacations" carefully
disguised as necessary trips.

Please give my regards to Hillary, when/if  you see her. Tell her I'm
working on a "Thank You" letter for her.

Looking forward to January 2001,

Average Joe






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[CTRL] It's Another Holocaust Mrs. Albright (fwd)

2000-06-09 Thread Yardbird

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   "Fear not the path of truth for the lack of people walking on it"

 "I need to speak about Iraq because I think what's happening
there is a genocide. It's another holocaust."

MID-EAST REALITIES - www.MiddleEast.Org - Washington - 6/10/00:
   A few weeks ago they honored Secretary of State Madeleine Albright at the University
of California at Berkeley.  George Washington University -- here in Washington,
DC -- did the same a few days later.  Honorary University Degrees for the first
American woman Secretary of State.  Who cares what her policies are.  Who cares
how much human suffering and misery she is responsible for.  Who cares how much
blood is shed, how many tears dropped, how much carnage results.  How revolting
this whole mindset; especially coming from the major centers of learning and education
in today's America.
   University administrators, especially at the better universities, have become
all too entwined with today's political and financial power structure in the US.
 The old values of academic integrity, intellectual honesty, and humanistic concerns,
have been tragicly replaced with the mentality of hussling businessmen, stock-market
manipulators, and "yes men".  Education has more and more become just another 
money-making
enterprise; just one more institution sucking up to those with the power and the
bucks.  And government has more and more added a hodge-podge of strings and 
"incentives"
to how universities functions, what students learn, and who gets the all-important
government grants.
   At GWU a very thoughtful and courageous lone sophomore, of Indian Muslim background
majoring in communications, got up with a sign to protest Madeleine's genocidal
proclivities toward Iraq -- but none of the professors educating her had even mentioned
to her the name Noam Chomsky.  Also at GWU a brave professor delivering the faculty
address warned all of America's dangerous hubris and rampant nationalism.  Madeleine
sat through it, said not a word, few noticed or understood, worst of all very few
seemed to care.
   At Berkeley Madeleine and university administrators got together and figured
out she should't sit through the upcoming speech by the distinguished history major
Fadia Rafeedie - a brilliant graduate headed toward Yale Law School and of Palestinian
descent.  Even though Rafeedie's speech had been "read and approved" in advance,
it was decided the schedule would be changed at the last moment, Madeleine would
speak before Rafeedie and then be gone -- not the way these things are usually done
at all.
But so it was.
   And so in proper response Fadia Rafeedie put aside her long and carefully prepared
remarks (unlike Madeleine by the way who gave the same speech with the same cheap
jokes at both Berkeley and GWU) and said the following which we should all take
to heart:



Thank you, that was way too generous, Chancellor Berdahl. It makes me sound, you
know, a lot better than I am. I had a speech and it's right here.

It took me so long to draft it and I kept re-drafting it, and this morning I changed
it again, but I'm just going to put it to the side and I'm going to talk from my
heart because what I witnessed here today, I have mixed feelings about.

I don't know why I'm up here articulating the viewpoints of a lot of my comrades
out there who were arrested, and not them. It's not because I got, you know, straight
A's or maybe it is. Maybe that's the way the power structure works, but I'm very
fortunate to be able to give them a voice. I think that's what I'm going to do,
so if you give me your attention, I'd really appreciate it.

I was hoping to speak before Secretary Albright, but that was also a reflection
of the power structure, I think, to sort of change things around and make it difficult
for people who are ready to articulate their voice in ways they don't usually get
a chance to.

So I'm going to improvise, and I'm going to mention some things that she didn't
mention at all in her speech but which most of the protesters were actually talking
about. You know, I think it's really easy for us to feel sorry for 

[CTRL] FW: [slickmisc] Worldwide Lunch Program

2000-06-09 Thread Bard

This Post deserves far and wide distribution!!!

The taxpayer-subsidized Meat, and Dairy industries
at it again;  making every effort to fatten their
bottom line.
Take a trip to: http://www.notmilk.com/
and read the results of sucking on cow's milk;
even weaned calves don't eat or drink milk products.
Powered milk that was shipped to famine-plagued Africa
was used by the Natives to paint their huts because
they suffered diarrhea when they drank it.  Those
Natives were smart because they knew they could use
the 'casing' in milk to apply protection for their
huts;  just think what milk does to your blood vessels.
Gotta keep those Doctors happy!!! with angioplatsies, etc.
Concerned Parents should insist their kids not drink
tax-subsidized milk or dairy products in the
corrupt government schools.

Bard
Pro Libertate - For Freedom
BUCHANAN-Reform
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we must send to Congress Constitutional conservatives.

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  INTRODUCTORY COMMENTARY


Perhaps you thought I was exaggerating about Castro and Clinton
both taking orders from the same NWO bosses. Now Clinton is
promoting a worldwide school lunch program. Well, if it works, I
think they ought to do it, but until we are all subjects of the new world
order (NWO) I can see no reason why every country can't supply
food to their own students.  After we are controlled by the NWO
I see no reason why they can't order every nation to give their
children 3 square meals a day, in accordance with the govts menu
of what's best for us to eat.

Rich Martin
Editor of Slick
^^^


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 AP Washington - 05/30/2000

 Worldwide Lunch Program Proposed
 by PHILIP BRASHER
 Associated Press Writer

 WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Clinton has asked his
 administration to consider establishing an international school lunch
 program similar to the federal one that subsidizes meals in American
 schools.

 Former Sen. George McGovern, U.S. representative to the U.N.
 Food and Agriculture Organization, proposed the feeding program
 to Clinton last week at a meeting with Agriculture Secretary Dan
 Glickman and other administration officials.

 After Clinton heard McGovern's pitch, ''We were instructed to go and
 flesh the idea out,'' Glickman said Tuesday at a nutrition conference.
 ''The president gave us a green light to go out and develop this
 program.''

 An estimated 300 million children in Africa, Asia and Latin America
 suffer from malnutrition, including 150 million, mostly girls, who
 don't go to school, McGovern said.

 The Agriculture Department subsidizes lunches for 27 million U.S.
 children, including 15 million who get meals for free or at reduced
 prices. The program cost $6 billion last year.

 The availability of free lunches would improve nutrition overseas,
 attract kids to school who otherwise would get no education and
 provide an outlet for surplus U.S. farm commodities, McGovern said.

 ''Nobody has been able to find a better way to get them to school
 than to offer them lunch,'' he said.

 McGovern was a leading advocate for federal nutrition programs
 while serving in the Senate from South Dakota in the 1960s and
 1970s. He ran for president three times, in 1968, 1972 and 1984.

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[CTRL] NEW DOCUMENTS SHOW CLINTON ADMINISTRATION COLLABORATED' WITH CUBA ON ELIAN GONZALEZ

2000-06-09 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

From:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/

VIEW DOCS:

1st Document:
http://www.judicialwatch.org/otherserver/elianfoiadocs2.htm

2nd Document:
http://www.judicialwatch.org/otherserver/elianemail4.jpg

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
June 9, 2000

Contact: Richard Tomkins
(202) 646-5172

NEW DOCUMENTS SHOW CLINTON ADMINISTRATION COLLABORATED' WITH CUBA
ON ELIAN GONZALEZ

Documents Also Show INS Knew It Didn't Have Legal Basis To Force
Elian's Return

INS Documents Were Turned Over to Judicial Watch Under Court
Order – Contradict Clinton-Gore Administration Spin

(Washington, DC) Further refuting recent spin by Clinton-Gore
Administration spokesmen, additional Clinton-Gore Administration
documents uncovered by Judicial Watch, Inc. in its lawsuits show
that the Clinton-Gore Administration "collaborated" with Cuba on
the Elian Gonzalez matter. Copies of these additional documents
are available at Judicial Watch's Internet site at
www.judicialwatch.org.

The documents were turned over to Judicial Watch recently by the
Clinton-Gore Justice Department as part of its Freedom of
Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit against the Justice Department and
Immigration and Naturalization Service to obtain underlying
information on the Elian Gonzalez saga. A federal court judge
appointed by President Clinton, James Robertson, ordered that the
Justice Department begin turning over the documents to Judicial
Watch on April 26, 2000.

Just yesterday, the Clinton-Gore Administration turned over a
December, 1999 e-mail showing that INS Commissioner Doris
Meissner, as part of the most "beneficial" litigation strategy,
sought to work with the State Department and the Communist Cuban
government to arrange a secret meeting with Juan Miguel Gonzalez
– despite evidence that he was being coerced by the Cuban
government. Additionally, an undated e-mail produced last week
shows that the INS knew it had no legal basis to act on behalf of
Juan Miguel Gonzalez. The document states that the "INS is giving
him rights in violation of law."

"When will the Clinton-Gore Administration begin telling the
truth about their collaboration with the Castro regime? As part
of their ‘litigation' strategy, they sought to conspire with
Fidel Castro to obtain a secret meeting with Elian's father. The
Administrations actions were despicable and contrary to what they
had been publicly telling the courts and the American people, "
said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton.

Judicial Watch is a public interest law firm that investigates
and prosecutes government corruption. It is pursuing civil rights
lawsuits against Janet Reno and others on behalf of Elian's
rescuer Donato Darylmple and the other peaceful Americans outside
the home of Elian Gonzalez's relatives' home on the night of the
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[CTRL] THE MARS RECORDS...plus links

2000-06-09 Thread Nicky Molloy

Links at the bottom of the page.


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With great faith in the power of the truth, and in you.

    Kay Lee

Warning:

Reading this material might induce significant anxiety or

depression. Individuals with a history of heart problems,

or who are being treated for depression, may find it advisable

not to read this report.

http://www.marynet.com/advisor/Download/download.html


THE MARS RECORDS

http://themarsrecords.com/Preface/preface.html


In December 1996 I began doing one-on-one Clearing sessions in Australia

with an American man in his early 40’s named Michael.  I am an Australian.

I had known Michael for a year prior to this.  His life prior to 1995

had been spent in the USA.



  During these sessions we came to discover a vast number of astounding

things that he had done, and which had been done to him, of which he had

been totally unaware. These things included having worked on Mars for the

US government, remote viewing, time travel, age recession by 20 years,

being given false memories to cover his time on Mars, abductions and

other experiences.



  Michael is a successful professional working in the information

technology industry.  He previously worked in the U.S. Navy.  He is

of sound mind and body, is highly intelligent and healthy.  He has

never taken recreational drugs or alcohol.  Before the first clearing

session, one would have considered that he had lead a perfectly normal

life.



  The first clearing session was carried out because Michael had

memories of seeing spaceships as a boy, and he wanted to determine

whether these memories were real, or a dream, or if they were

something else entirely.  In fact, the sessions uncovered a whole

range of suppressed memories.



  When I first met Michael I felt that he might be the man for me.

And yet sometimes when I looked behind his eyes, there seemed to be

an unusually large amount of suppressed rage.  This would erupt

occasionally and we would then have large arguments.  After knowing

him for a while, I offered the sessions to him, in an attempt to rid

him of this anger.



  After a number of sessions, his anger reduced so much and his

personality improved to the extent that when he asked me to marry

him, I accepted.  We married in August 1997 and we moved from

Australia to the USA.  We returned to Australia at the end of 1999.



  When we discovered what you are about to read, Michael asked

me to type up my written records.  When I finally accepted that we

should publish these records, my original desire was to do so under

a pseudonym.  However, something happened to change that.  We are

not totally sure that an attempt was not made on Michael’s life in

November 1999, two weeks after we booked a flight to return to

Australia from the USA. This event is described in Chapter 49 –

A Strange Accident.  After this event, and much praying for

guidance, we decided to publish using our real names. We made

this decision because it is our understanding that generally

the people who have been murdered for what they knew, were those

who did so under pseudonyms.  The ‘bad guys’ can always find

out who wrote what.  However, usually whenever some one is

willing to use his real name when he comes forward with unusual

information, he is left to live – because his death gives

credibility to his information.  (A notable exception to this

was the late Phil Schneider.  See Appendices IV and V).



  An example of this working:  After Dr Joseph Puleo wrote a

trial publication for “Healing Codes for the Biological Apocalypse”,

an attempt was made on his life.  Men in black clothes aimed a

lazer gun through his kitchen window, which should have given him

a fatal heart attack.  However, God looks after his people.

At the moment the lazer was fired, Dr Puleo picked up a bottle

of olive oil – which took enough of the blast to enable him to

survive.  Dr Puleo then agreed to use his real name in the

final publication.



  The Mars Records is the record of what was discovered in

Michael’s sessions. This record is unlike any other that you have

ever read.  Firstly, we believe some of this information is unique.

Secondly, these sessions were done on a biofeedback meter – and

all of the readings from the meter have been recorded here.

The readings back up the truth of this amazing story.


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Re: [CTRL] retractors

2000-06-09 Thread Smart News

Hi !

I have permission to forward this.

Sincerely,  Neil Brick

Our listing these resources does not necessarily constitute our endorsement
of them. Resources mentioned in this resource list are mentioned for
educational value only. Using these resources may or may not help your
recovery process, so use caution when reading anything or contacting anyone
mentioned in this resource list.


 I just finished reading the fall-winter 1999 issue of The Journal of
 Psychiatry  Law. It's a special issue focusing on the interrelationship
 between factitious behavior, dissociative disorders, and the law.

 I highly recommend this issue to anyone interested in retractors--those who
 recall memories of child abuse, then decide therapists implanted the
 memories and typically file malpractice lawsuits.  Retractor lawsuits have
 generally been assumed to be trustworthy on the theory that the retractor
 was originally wrong but is now enlightened.  Thus, the retractor is now
 telling the truth.  This issue raises a "plausible alternative explanation"
 for such cases.

 To date, information regarding retractors has come from retractors'
 self-reports to the media and research surveys.  Some articles in this issue
 offer the first hard data on retractors--analyses of actual treatment
 records and sworn testimonies.  In fact, it's possible that had this type of
 data been available in the early 90s to insurance carriers and their
 attorneys,  the flurry of "memory implantation" litigation against
 therapists might have quickly come to an end.

 I've listed the articles and authors below.  To order a copy, call
 800-210-READ or 617-630-9393.  The $35 cost includes shipping.

 Factitious Disorders and Trauma-Related Diagnosis - D. Brown  A. Scheflin
 The Imitation of DID:  Patients at Risk, Therapists at Risk - N. Draijer 
 S. Boon
 Variations on a Factitious Theme - S. Marmer
 Deception Through Factitious Identity - J. High
 False Memories and True Lies:  The Psychology of a Recanter - J. Anderson
 Iatrogenic DID-An Evaluation of the Scientific Evidence:  D. Brown, E.
 Frischholz  A. Scheflin
 Fabrications of Things Past- Factitious Identities and Fictional Life
 Histories - F. Putnam
 The False Litigant Syndrome:  "Nobody Would Say That Unless It Was the
 Truth" - A. Scheflin  D. Brown (includes study of 30 retractors in
 high-visibility therapist lawsuits).

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[CTRL] Blue-green algae / Modifilan / ProAlgen

2000-06-09 Thread Bill Kingsbury

 I have been taking bluegreen algae for years
 and wondered if this is really a better product?
 I would appreciate any info.


I don't know for sure how to compare blue-green algae with the
brown seaweed extract.  However, problems have been reported with
some types, or batches of blue-green algae :

1) Some algae contains vitamin B-12 analogs which block
   'real B-12' assimilation (even from B-12 supplements), thus
   causing a masked B-12 deficiency that will not show up on
   the basic B-12 blood tests -- thereby possibly leading to
   permanent neurological damage, if not corrected in time.

   Spirulina has this potential problem, and some types of
   blue-green algae possibly do, also.  However, food product
   testing for 'B-12 analogs' is probably not required by law,
   and too expensive to do regularly, if it's done at all.

   A victim of the above problem (B-12 analogs) would need the
   MMA (methylmalonic acid) blood test to detect a 'functional
   B-12 deficiency', although a cause and effect relationship
   would be difficult to establish with certainty.


2) Six species of blue-green algae are known to produce toxins,
   and at least one of these (potentially toxic) species is
   commonly sold for human consumption.  Also, toxic species or
   varieties could 'invade' and contaminate non-toxic algae crops.
   Cell Tech brand blue-green algae is tested every-other day
   on mice -- to see if it kills them.  (see reference below).


3) " Upper Klamath Lake, where Cell Tech harvests its algae, is
   a shallow eutrophied lake full of nitrogen and phosphorus from
   animal feces.  Klamath Lake lies along a migratory bird flyway,
   and large colonies of pelicans poop there year-round in a
   protected sanctuary.  The August 1995 issue of Vegetarian Times
   describes the lake as pretty polluted.  Three epidemic fish
   kills have occurred there recently, due to algal blooms. "
   (see reference below).


4) Is algae tested for mercury (and heavy-metals) contamination ?
   A friend's teenage daughter lost her kidney function
   (glomerulonephritis) to Hawaiian Spirulina which contained
   mercury.  She was put on high-dose corticosteroids, awaiting
   a kidney transplant.


5) One species of blue-green algae produces 'anatoxin' -- an
   addictive neurotoxin that produces a good-feeling 'buzz'.
   It is chemically related to cocaine,  and eventually could
   produce a similar type of brain damage.


Reference -

Many similar problems are fully explained in :

   Why Blue Green Algae Makes Me Tired
   -
   By  John M. McPartland, DO
   Director, Vermont Alternative Medicine

URL:   http://tldp.com/issue/167/algae.html
   (original:  Townsend Letter for Doctors and Patients)

 OR:   http://www.sightings.com/health/greenalgaetired.htm


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For those primarily concerned with mercury -- or heavy-metal --
or radioactive substance -- detoxification of the body, there
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[CTRL] BISPHENOL A -- WEIGHT GAIN, EARLY PUBERTY

2000-06-09 Thread Bill Kingsbury

Note:  5-gallon polycarbonate water bottles contain 'bisphenol A'.
_

See also:
Raloff, J. 1997. Dental sealant safety reconsidered. Science News 152
(Nov. 22):324.  http://www.sciencenews.org/sn_arc97/11_22_97/fob1.htm
_

Note:  Many types of white composite (plastic) fillings are leaking
   synthetic- estrogen into the saliva, around the clock.  A few
   dental composites said to NOT contain 'bisphenol A' are:

1) Procera

2) Diamond Lite and Diamond Crown

3) Targis Vectris --
   Fiber- reinforced poly-ceramic crowns and bridges:
   http://www.dentalceramicsinc.com/Dental_Ceramics_Targis_Vectris.htm

4) Sculpture FibreKor --
   Fiber- reinforced poly-ceramic crowns and bridges:
   http://www.killiandental.com/sculptur.htm


_

 Two articles follow :

   BISPHENOL A CONTRIBUTES TO WEIGHT GAIN, EARLY PUBERTY

   WHAT'S COMING OUT OF BABY'S BOTTLE ?

_


http://www.tmc.tulane.edu/ecme/eehome/newsviews/research/bpa2_00.html


 BISPHENOL A CONTRIBUTES TO WEIGHT GAIN, EARLY PUBERTY

 Posted February 22, 2000
 Review by Kembra L. Howdeshell

 Research paper:

 EXPOSURE TO BISPHENOL A  ADVANCES PUBERTY.

 Howdeshell, Kembra L., Andrew K. Hotchkiss, Kristina A.
 Thayer, John G. Vandenbergh, and Frederick S. vom Saal.
 NATURE, 401(Oct 21, 1999):763-764.

  Article summary by Kembra L. Howdeshell,
  University of Missouri, Columbia.

 Over the past decades, researchers have reported a
 dramatic increase in the number of overweight Americans
 and a decrease in the age at which young girls reach
 puberty. These findings have been attributed to
 nutrition, lifestyle, and genetics. However, a team of
 researchers at the University of Missouri-Columbia and
 North Carolina State University reported in the October
 21, 1999, issue of Nature that an estrogen-mimicking
 chemical used in the manufacture of certain plastic
 products could be a contributing factor.

 Kembra Howdeshell, a University of Missouri doctoral
 candidate, and Frederick vom Saal, biology professor at
 the University of Missouri, exposed mice to a level of
 bisphenol A comparable to human exposure. Bisphenol A,
 an estrogen-mimicking chemical, is a building block for
 the production of polycarbonate plastic products, such
 as baby bottles, the resin lining of food cans, and
 certain types of food storage containers. Bisphenol A
 exposure occurs because the chemical is known to leach
 from such products.

 Pregnant mice were fed a low level of bisphenol A (2.4
 micrograms per kilogram or 2.4 parts per billion)during
 days 11-17 of their 19-day pregnancy, thus exposing the
 developing pups in the womb. Female mice born to
 bisphenol A-treated mothers had an earlier onset of
 puberty and were up to 20% heavier than those born to
 oil-fed control mothers. However, the female offspring
 with highest levels of natural estrogen were much more
 sensitive to the chemical and showed the largest weight
 gain and earliest puberty relative to those females with
 low levels of natural estrogen.

 Specifically, the bisphenol A-exposed females with
 highest natural estrogen levels reached puberty 5 days
 earlier and were 20% heavier at weaning (22-days -old)
 than their untreated counterparts. (while) Female
 offspring with the lowest levels of natural estrogen did
 not show a difference from controls based on their
 exposure to bisphenol A.

 Such variation in natural estrogen levels also exists in
 the human population and could be influencing the
 sensitivity of humans to such chemicals during sensitive
 periods of development in the womb. It is difficult to
 assess the levels of estrogen-mimicking chemicals to
 which humans are exposed and their impact on
 reproductive physiology. However, it is interesting to
 note that an increase in the number of hormone-sensitive
 reproductive abnormalities has occurred concurrent with
 the widespread use of hormone-disruptive agents in the
 environment, thus suggesting an association.

 These research findings do not directly answer questions
 concerning effects in humans; instead the findings pose
 a question regarding human health and may serve as a
 guide for human research. The researchers state that
 bisphenol A should be considered as a factor
 contributing to the changes in growth, sexual
 maturation, and reproductive abnormalities that have
 been reported in the humans in the past decades.


 References/Further reading:

  1. Nagel, S.C., F.S. vom Saal, K.A. Thayer, M.G. Dhar,
 M. Boechler, and W.V. Welshons. 1997. Relative
 binding affinity-serum modified access (RBA-SMA)
 assay predicts the relative in vivo bioactivity of
 the xenoestrogens bisphenol A and octylphenol.
 Environmental Health 

Re: [CTRL] BISPHENOL A -- WEIGHT GAIN, EARLY PUBERTY

2000-06-09 Thread Bill Kingsbury

 Re: MERCURY AMALGAM - vs. COMPOSITES CONTAINING BISPHENOL A

 Reading the following quote, it appears the 'estrogen- leaking
 composites' are safer than mercury amalgam for dental fillings.
 Of course, "daily threshold limits" are subject to revision by
 any future committees' consensus.  Also, individual - and fetal -
 sensitivities will vary widely in unpredictable ways.
 BK


   from :  http://www.bioprobe.com/news.asp

   " Dr. Mark Richardson's studies on the relative risks of mercury
 in amalgams and bisphenol-A in composites were quoted:

 The average Canadian, with 8 amalgams, was 3.5 times over
 the daily threshold limit for mercury exposure,  whereas
 the patient with 8 composites was 125 times UNDER the
 daily threshold limit value for escaping bisphenols-A.  "



 Original message 

Note:  5-gallon polycarbonate water bottles contain 'bisphenol A'.
_

See also:
Raloff, J. 1997. Dental sealant safety reconsidered. Science News 152
(Nov. 22):324.  http://www.sciencenews.org/sn_arc97/11_22_97/fob1.htm
_

Note:  Many types of white composite (plastic) fillings are leaking
   synthetic- estrogen into the saliva, around the clock.  A few
   dental composites said to NOT contain 'bisphenol A' are:

1) Procera

2) Diamond Lite and Diamond Crown

3) Targis Vectris --
   Fiber- reinforced poly-ceramic crowns and bridges:
   http://www.dentalceramicsinc.com/Dental_Ceramics_Targis_Vectris.htm

4) Sculpture FibreKor --
   Fiber- reinforced poly-ceramic crowns and bridges:
   http://www.killiandental.com/sculptur.htm


_

 Two articles follow :

   BISPHENOL A CONTRIBUTES TO WEIGHT GAIN, EARLY PUBERTY

   WHAT'S COMING OUT OF BABY'S BOTTLE ?

_


http://www.tmc.tulane.edu/ecme/eehome/newsviews/research/bpa2_00.html

http://www.sciencenews.org/sn_arc99/7_24_99/food.htm


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[CTRL] U*R*G*E*N*T FW: AZ Rancher....[[illegals pose terrorist threat]

2000-06-09 Thread Bard

[this Post DEMANDS you first read it in its
entirety then spread far and wide-
No Game, Folks!  Your complacency is costing
us our Country.]

Note from Sender:
The Rapist through his pimp is not doing his/her job in
protecting our Borders.
We cannot wait 'til January 2001 to stem the
tide of illegals.
I urge you to contact MOM, SierraTimes or your
local Militia
to determine if you as a Volunteer can
legally offer your services to assist our
overburdened Border Patrol.
SOMETHING has to give here!
No more time for whining, we must act
to protect our national security interests
and our Sovereignty.
The international banksters are behind this
as part of their program to create pressure
on the lower classes, while funding those
organizations which entice illegals to come here.
Never before in our History has it become so
obvious that the Insiders are in the final stage
of a complete takeover of our Nation.
Bard
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Subject: Rancher Calls for Military Intervention


Rancher calls for military intervention
 at borderBy J.J. Johnson - Posted: 06.07.00
 http://www.sierratimes.com/arjj060700.htm
A HREF="http://www.sierratimes.com/arjj060700.htm"Rancher calls for
Military Intervention at Border - By J.J. Johnson/A
Douglas, AZ

Roger Burnett is angry. The besieged rancher at Arizona's southern
border
has
called for U.S. military intervention at what he calls "a serious
national
security threat."
Burnett grazes 250 head of beef cattle on 22 thousand acres in Arizona
which
border Mexico; his grazing lands are composed of two thirds public land,

which he leases, and one third private land. Burnett is one of over 40
ranchers in the area who says they are besieged by what has become a
veritable Mexican immigration epidemic.

Burnett says that the border patrol needs extra agents, but that extra
agents
alone can never solve the problem. He says that the flow of immigrants
over
the border onto the ranch lands which he and his fellow ranchers work is
a
torrential deluge.

Here's what he described: 100 - 400 cars from the Cochise County area
alone
show up each and every day to pick up the illegal immigrants who pour
over
the border in what he describes as literally thousands per day. In fact,

Burnett even described how many of these cars have temporary paper
license
tags, and how he has seen advertisements from trucking companies stating

that
they will bring the cars back to the border to pick up another load of
people
trying to make it over the border; Burnett says that there are about 5 -
10
transport truck loads every night bringing vehicles back the next night
into
his county to pick up yet another load of illegals. These cars somehow
"find"
drivers to transport more illegals each and every night.

In an interview with Sierra Times, Burnett detailed what can only be
described as a crime epidemic throughout the Southwestern part of the
United
States.

"The drivers, called 'coyotes,' show up nightly to pick up the illegals.

They
leave a map in the car which the illegals then use to navigate to safe
houses
in Tucson and Phoenix. I have seen as many as a thousand people per
night."

Burnett based this estimate by counting the number of footprint tracks
on
his
property, which he does continually.

According to U.S. government estimates, the INS claims to apprehend one
out
of every eight illegal aliens who attempt to cross the border. If these
figures are correct, then the total number of aliens who cross the
Arizona
border is approximately 7,000 per day. Contrast this with the
fastest-growing
city in the U.S. is Las Vegas, NV, which is increasing its population at
a
rate of 5,000 per month. At 7,000 per day, Arizona is experiencing an
explosion of 210,000 per month - 42 times the growth of Las Vegas.

Burnett denied allegations that flyers had been sent around asking any
unwanted groups to show up in his county. "We did send out information
requesting decent people to show up with their campers and RVs and serve
as
spotters for the local authorities." He said the ranchers need all the
help
they can get. When asked if the sheriff would consider deputizing the
ranchers and other citizens to help with the problem, Burnett said that
he
wished the sheriff would do so, because then the federal government
would
really have to take notice of the situation.

The Border Patrol is severely and chronically understaffed - it has been

announced that more agents will be hired and brought to the border;
however,
the numbers being promised are insignificant in light of Burnett's
estimates
of how many illegals are pouring across the border daily.

Many Hispanic civil rights groups in both Arizona and Mexico have
complained
about the treatment of the illegal immigrants, claiming civil rights
abuses
by both 

Re: [CTRL] It is time for a massive legal challenge of lethal injection - Please post

2000-06-09 Thread Bill Howard

In a message dated 6/9/00 2:50:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  That protocol says the medical technicians "shall complete" two
intravenous
 lines into the condemned inmate. The governor's office says only one line
 was inserted, after technicians tried to insert a needle in at least four
 locations on Demps' body. 

The execution was carried out sucessfully, and on time, correct? So what is
the problem?

Bill H

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Re: [CTRL] It is time for a massive legal challenge of lethalinjection -Please post

2000-06-09 Thread Nurev Ind Research

6/9/00

If legal injection is also a problem, then we need to go back to the only
sure, quick, painless mode of death. Decapitation. The guillotine was a
good idea back in the old days, let's bring it back again. Any idiot can
work one.

Joshua2

DIG alfred webre wrote:

  Problems came with 2nd needle

After three tries, officials abandon attempts to insert a second line into
  Bennie Demps. That may have violated execution protocols.
  By SHELBY OPPEL and JO BECKER

  © St. Petersburg Times, published June 9, 2000

  
  

  TALLAHASSEE -- Gov. Jeb Bush on Thursday staunchly defended the
  controversial handling of Florida's latest lethal injection, insisting state
  corrections officials performed the procedure "according to the textbook."

  "There was no botched nature to it at all," Bush said.

  But newly released details about the struggle to insert a second intravenous
  needle into three-time convicted killer Bennie Demps show state officials
  may have violated their own written execution protocol.

  That protocol says the medical technicians "shall complete" two intravenous
  lines into the condemned inmate. The governor's office says only one line
  was inserted, after technicians tried to insert a needle in at least four
  locations on Demps' body.

  In the wake of Demps' execution, other questions surfaced among death
  penalty opponents about the qualifications of the medical technicians who
  attempted to insert the needle and about the highly secretive procedure that
  has developed in the six months since the state switched its method of
  execution to lethal injection.

  Demps' final words -- a six-minute diatribe describing repeated attempts to
  insert the needle in his leg and groin -- has death row attorneys preparing
  to challenge lethal injection as cruel and unusual punishment.

  Michael Reiter is the attorney for convicted murderer Thomas Provenzano, who
  is scheduled to die June 20. Citing the state's history of botched
  executions, Reiter said: "I don't think they have the proper training. I
  don't think they have the competence and they make a mess of things."

  Demps' last request was to ask for an investigation into his execution.
  Alachua County State Attorney Rod Smith declined that request, made Thursday
  by Demps' attorney, concluding, "Mr. Demps was legally executed for a
  murder."

  But Smith gave the most graphic indication yet of what happened to Demps in
  the hour before a curtain parted to allow witnesses to see him strapped to a
  gurney in the death chamber.

  In a written statement, Smith said an observer from his office described
  five punctures in Demps' body -- confirming Demps' dying claims. The marks
  were a large-bore needle mark in Demps' right groin, a small incision inside
  his right ankle and two puncture wounds in his right arm. His left arm
  showed a mark from the intravenous needle that carried the fatal drugs into
  Demps' bloodstream.

  Before dying, Demps asserted prison officials began attempts to insert
  needles at 5:40 p.m. and made a final cut in his leg at 6:20 p.m.

  Justin Sayfie, a spokesman for Bush, gave this chronology Thursday about how
  the marks and puncture wounds appeared:

  After the first intravenous needle was successfully inserted into Demps'
  left arm, officials attempted to insert a second needle into his right arm,
  his right groin and finally into his right ankle. Failing to find a vein in
  any of those three places, officials abandoned the effort and decided to use
  only one intravenous needle for the execution, Sayfie said.

  Before dying, Demps complained that the process was painful and caused him
  to bleed "profusely."

  "That's clearly torture," said Abe Bonowitz, director of the newly formed
  Floridians for Alternatives to the Death Penalty.

  C.J. Drake, spokesman for the Department of Corrections, disagreed.

  "This guy spoke for up to seven minutes so it's hard to believe this guy was
  in that much pain," he said.

  "But for the needles, it's not an invasive procedure."

  When corrections officials abandoned the attempt to insert the second
  intravenous needle, they appeared to violate their own protocol, which
  states: "The designated members of the Execution Team shall complete the
  primary and alternate IV and the heart monitor setup(s)."

  Demps was executed Wednesday for the slaying of another Florida State Prison
  inmate. He also had been convicted of killing two other people.

  Bush, visiting Tampa on Thursday, said justice was served.

  "It wasn't botched. They went according to protocol, and it worked. . . .
  There was no botched nature to it at all," the governor said. "It gives me
  no great joy, but he was not in pain. Lethal injection worked. And it was
  all done according to the textbook, so that's just the way it is."

  The department, which 

[CTRL] FW: Immigration...[TucsonSector arrests 76,245 in March alone]

2000-06-09 Thread Bard



(again, 
I beseech you read this Post in its entirety.
I don't 
know if you know this or not, but the age and gender group
of 
these illegals is 18-25 and male; this fact creates 
the
real 
potential that what the criminal bosses in Mexico City
are 
doing is flooding our Nation with members ofits armed
serviceswho will be in place to takeover the 
entire
Southwest of our Country when the time is 
ripe.)

Folks, 
Just think of the threats of Terrorism
and 
Communicable Diseases this poses, let alone
the 
chaos caused by 
their 
refusal to assimilate into our Society.
Contact 
your local militia to offer your services
to 
legally assist the overburdened Border Patrol.
I pray 
the D.C. thugs pay a heavy price for their
irresponsibility in protecting our national 
Borders.
The 
Demos and Repubs are in this together;
make no 
mistake about it.
Remember, they are nothing more than the 
two
wings 
of the same bird of prey:
The 
Peoples National Socialist DemoRatic Republican Party.
Both 
have scrapped their ideological foundations
for the 
quick buck of the international banksters and 
their 
cronies in the Pratt House.
Let the 
rattling of your chains be heard come November,
and let 
that sound reverberate so loudly that even
our 
Creator will be deafened by its anguished cry.
You can 
play a vital role in the protection of our 
Sovereignty by informing all your Contacts of 
the
extraordinary crisis the thugs have manufactured 
and
which 
affects your personal security.
Be 
Warned! The Trojan Horse is already within our Gates.
Trojan Horse (legend), 
in Greek legend, a huge, hollow, wooden horse used by the attacking Greeks to 
gain entrance to the city of Troy, 
thus ending the Trojan 
War. Unable to capture the city after a siege of ten years, the Greeks 
resorted to stratagem. They sailed away and left the horse, filled with armed 
warriors, on the shore. Sinon, a Greek spy, persuaded the Trojans to take the 
horse into the city, convincing them that to do so would mysteriously make Troy 
invulnerable. That night Sinon let out the armed Greek troops; killing the 
guards, they opened the gates to the Greeks, and Troy was captured and 
burned.
Bard
Pro 
Libertate - For FreedomBUCHANAN-Reformhttp://gopatgo2000.com/default.htm

-Original Message-From: Teacher of YHVH 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 5:31 
PMTo: Undisclosed-Recipient:@ndmls01.mediaone.net;Subject: 
Fw: Immigration Out of Bounds

- Original Message - 
From: William Jones 
To: Teacher of YHVH 
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 5:23 PM
Subject: Fw: Immigration Out of Bounds


- Original Message - 
From: Rod 
To: Rod Remelin 
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: Immigration Out of Bounds



  
  
  76,245 Illegals Arrested In Tucson 
  Sector In March AloneFrom [EMAIL PROTECTED]6-7-00
  
  
  
  
  


  

  
  
  The following SHOULD have been the headline of the 
  following story -- but it wasn't -- ask yourself why? Could it be to 
  raise sympathy for the illegals? 
  
  76,245 ILLEGALS ARRESTED IN TUCSON SECTOR IN 
  MARCH 
  
  "In March, the Border Patrol arrested 76,245 illegal 
  immigrants in the Tucson sector, which covers all but 50 miles of the 
  Arizona-Mexico border. That puts the sector on pace to break an annual 
  record of detaining more than 470,000 illegal immigrants." 
  
  THE FOLLOWING IS THE REASON THE ILLEGALS ARE IN 
  ARIZONA --- WHY HAVE PATROLS INCREASED IN CALIFORNIA AND TEXAS? DOES 
  SOMEONE WANT THE ILLEGALS ENTERING IN THE ARIZONA DESERT? IF SO, 
  WHY? 
  
  "Federal authorities have increased patrols in 
  California and Texas, forcing more border crossers to enter through 
  Arizona. And stricter enforcement of the border near Arizona's urban 
  areas is in turn pushing immigrants to try remote areas where they can 
  find little water and must often endure triple-digit heat. Most are 
  ill-prepared to survive." 
  
  
  Heat Deaths on Arizona-Mexico Border 
  http://news.excite.com/news/ap/000606/09/desert-deaths By Arthur H. 
  Rotstein - Associated Press Writer 6-7-00 
  
  TUCSON, Ariz. (AP) - Four days into what she was 
  told would be a six-hour trip, Yolanda Gonzalez lay dead of 
  dehydration in the Arizona desert - a victim of a searing sun, 
  110-degree heat and her determination to save her daughter. 
  
  The 19-year-old mother from Oaxaca, Mexico, had 
  given nearly all the water she carried to her 18-month-old daughter. 
  Only a few ounces remained in the toddler's bottle when Border Patrol 
  searchers reached them on Memorial Day. 
  
  The youngster was rescued. Gonzalez became the 

[CTRL] Original Meaning of the 2nd Amendment

2000-06-09 Thread The Extremist

On the original meaning of the 2nd Amendment
Henry E. Schaffer
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"Whereas in all well regulated Governments, it is the indispensable
duty of every Legislature to consult the Happiness of a rising
Generation, and endeavour to fit them for an honorable Discharge of
the Social Duties of Life, by paying the strictest attention to their
Education."

These resounding words were the opening of a November 12, 1789
Act of the North Carolina Legislature which was passed on
December 11, 1789 and which chartered the University of North
Carolina.  Noting that this Act was contemporaneous with the Bill of
Rights (which was transmitted to the state legislatures on September
25, 1789) and that the North Carolina Legislature was active at that
time, North Carolina being one of the original 13 states, let us pay
particular attention to the usage of the words "well regulated" found
both in this Act and in the 2nd Amendment of the BoR. The use of
"well regulated" in this act can shed some light on the meaning of the
2nd Amendment.

The 2nd Amendment reads: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary
to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear
Arms, shall not be infringed."

The debate between the collectivist and the individualist
interpretations of the 2nd has often focused on the meaning of "well
regulated" in the opening phrase "well regulated Militia".  The
collectivists claim this this refers to a Militia which is tightly controlled
by the government, deducing this from the etymology of "regulated"
which relates to "ruled".  However, this ignores the usage of the word
"regulate" in which the "rule" refers to the proper operations of a
device rather than to man-made laws.  We still see this in the word
"regular", which in many contexts means "properly operating."

Let me give two examples of usage of the word "regulate" which have
been in existence for quite a long time and which have the same
"properly operating" interpretation.

1) Horology:  The adjustment of a portable timepiece so it will keep
time in the different positions in which it may be carried and kept (and
perhaps at the different temperatures which it may encounter.)  A
(mechanical) wrist-watch which has been so designed and adjusted is
said to be "regulated" and likely has this word stamped or engraved
on its back-plate.

2) Firearms:  The adjustment of a multi-barrel firearm (e.g., a double
barrelled shotgun) so that the barrels shoot to the same point-of-aim.
If such a gun (a double-barrelled shotgun or a three barreled "drilling")
fails to shoot properly, it is considered to be "out of regulation" and
needs to be "re-regulated".

Both of these uses have meanings *related* to the "to rule" of man-
made laws, but are more in the nature of "to adjust to or to be in a
state of proper functioning".  So a "well regulated watch" or a "well
regulated double barreled shotgun" both would have meaning of
"having been put into properly functioning condition".

 From my reading of material from the colonial era, I have come to
understand that "well regulated militia" had a meaning at that time (ca.
1789) in the nature of "a properly functioning militia" - which would
mean something along the lines of a properly trained and equipped
militia (since it was common at that time for militiamen to bring their
own firearms, with which they were already proficient.)

In an earlier use (1698), Andrew Fletcher does not directly define
"well regulated" but contrasts it with "ill-regulated", a phrase with the
opposite meaning.  He says, "For this reason I shall examine, by what
has passed of late years in these nations, whether experience have
convinced us, that officers bred in foreign wars, be so far preferable
to others who have been under no other discipline than that of an
ordinary and ill-regulated militia; ..."  This appears to define "ill-
regulated" as "lacking in experience", and therefore to use "well-
regulated" as "experienced", with the implication in this context of
functioning properly in action so as to result in competent officers.

The language of the NC Legislature in 1789 strengthens this
interpretation.  What can "well regulated Governments" mean other
than "properly functioning Governments"?  Surely it didn't and couldn't
refer to a government under the control of man-made laws, for it is
the Legislature itself which makes these laws, and it would neither be
noble nor sensible for the Legislature to be proclaiming that it is
controlling itself.

An additional contemporaneous document which exhibits the same
meaning is the Federalist Paper #29, in which Hamilton is discussing
the composition of the militia and says, "To oblige the great body of
the yeomanry, and of the other classes of the citizens, to be under
arms for the purpose of going through military exercises and
evolutions, as often as might be necessary
to_acquire_the_degree_of_
perfection_which_would_entitle_them_to_the_character_of_a_ well-

[CTRL] NYT: Friedman (on attitudes: government's good, Gates' bad)

2000-06-09 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

June 9, 2000

FOREIGN AFFAIRS / By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN

The Young And the Clueless

Wednesday's Microsoft ruling was about a lot of technical matters
-- Internet browsers, market share, the Sherman Antitrust Act.
But if you read carefully Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson's ruling
to split up Microsoft, you will see that this case is also about
attitude. In my view, it's an indictment of the attitude of the
high-tech community in general toward government, but it's
certainly an indictment of the particular attitude and arrogance
of Microsoft. Bless Judge Jackson's heart for that.

For many in Silicon Valley, government is irrelevant at best and
obstructionist at worst. For many in the high-tech community, the
world runs on electrons and stock options, and government is
basically an institution of tax-seeking bloodsuckers. The idea
that none of Silicon Valley's innovations would ever have
flowered without the rule of law maintained by Washington or
without the global stability maintained by the U.S. military --
funded by U.S. taxpayer dollars -- is really a foreign notion to
many in the dot-com world. Tell techies that without America on
duty there would be no America Online and they will look at you
as if you were speaking Latin (or Fortran).

No one epitomizes this attitude more than Bill Gates. As far as
I'm concerned, the government had grounds to break up Microsoft
simply for what Mr. Gates did last year -- which was to hire an
army of Washington lobbyists to try to get Congress to cut the
budget of the Antitrust Division of the Justice Department while
Microsoft had its case before that department. Think about the
arrogance behind that strategy. How would you feel if the biggest
company in your town tried to use its influence to slash the
funding of your police department, at a time when the police were
bringing charges against that company? That's what Microsoft did.

And that to me is the real point of Judge Jackson's ruling:
Microsoft isn't a threat just because it's big. G.E. is big.
Intel is big. Cisco is big. Microsoft is a threat because it is
big and deaf to some of the bedrock values of the American
system.

Remember, Judge Jackson is a conservative Republican appointed to
the bench by Ronald Reagan. He is not someone naturally hostile
to big corporations. Yet on virtually every count the judge ruled
in favor of the government and against Microsoft, pulling no
punches when he wrote: "Microsoft as it is presently organized
and led is unwilling to accept the notion that it broke the law
or accede to an order amending its conduct. . . . There is
credible evidence to suggest that Microsoft, convinced of its
innocence, continues to do business as it has in the past, and
may yet do to other markets what it has already done in the PC
operating system and browser markets."

It is impossible to predict what effect Microsoft's breakup could
have on the computer market, the software market or the stock
market. But it could not have come at a better time for the
rule-of-law market.

We are entering a whole new era of cyberspace, which is going to
make governance of things we cherish, and the enforcement of even
some basic laws, much more difficult. Look around: Internet
companies are already violating people's privacy to troubling
degrees; new technologies are making it easy for anyone to copy a
book, movie or CD and send it to a friend without regard to
copyright or royalties; e-commerce is increasingly going to
deprive local and state governments of taxes; and the unregulated
universe of cyberspace is making it easy for two students in the
Philippines to send out a computer virus that melts down 10
million computers worldwide overnight.


That's why in the age of cyberspace, government is going to
matter more, not less. And you are going to want the rule of law
more, not less. The danger, though, is that young people --
raised in the Internet age and bedazzled by technology companies
and billionaire geeks like Bill Gates -- will lose sight of this
fact. So too might all their parents with Microsoft stock in
their 401(k)'s.

Don't worry about Microsoft. There will always be another
Microsoft as long as there is another Judge Jackson or another
Joel Klein ready to take on such behemoths when they become
abusive. But there won't always be another U.S. government, as we
know it, if global technology companies grow so big and powerful
that they think they can have their way with Washington, or if
these emerging Internet giants snooker us into keeping cyberspace
unregulated, so they can have their way with us.




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[CTRL] Guns: Solzhenitsyn

2000-06-09 Thread The Extremist

Are guns useful for defending against tyrants?

Why not ask A. Solzhenitsyn, author and victim of the Russian
Gulags:

"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things
have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night
to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive
and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass
arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of
the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling in
terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the
staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had
boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people
with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? [...] The
Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and
transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine
would have ground to a halt!"

The Gulag Archipelago, A. Solzhenitsyn. Chapter 1 "Arrest", fn. 5.
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Re: [CTRL] Mrs God WAS: UFO EVIDENCE:

2000-06-09 Thread Samantha L.

In a message dated 6/9/00 9:52:05 AM Central Daylight Time,
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  The word "our," h, you look at it as there is a "she." I look at it as
  proof of the Trinity... Besides, "in our image", does that mean every exact
  detail?  I've seen plenty of images-reflections even, and they're not
  identical to the subject... But back to "Mrs. God." I guess that's open for
  debate, or is it?


  Oh, we could open up a fine can of worms with this topic.  The Divine
Wisdom of the so-called Old Testament is feminine.  Wisdom 9: 9,10 (Catholic
Bibles):

"With you is Wisdom, she who knows your works,
she who was present when you made the world;
she understands what is pleasing in your eyes
and what agrees with your commandments.
Despatch her from the holy heavens,
send her forth from your throne of glory
to help me and to toil with me
and to teach me what is pleasing to you,
since she knows and understands everything."

  Could Wisdom be the Holy Spirit?  Wisdom 9: 17,18:

"As for your intention, who could have learnt it, had you not
granted Wisdom
and sent your holy spirit from above?
Thus have the paths of those on earth been straightened
and men been taught what is pleasing to you,
and saved, by Wisdom."

The Catholic Church acknowledges that Divine Wisdom is feminine and
declared in one of the 'bull ineffablis' (?) that DW was Mary.  But from
reading what Jesus said about the Holy Spirit and comparing it to what was
written about Wisdom in "Wisdom" and "Ecclesiasticus" not to mention the
whole Bride and Bridegroom thread that runs through the entire book, I think
Wisdom is the Holy Spirit Jesus was talking about.

  The Gnostic texts talk about the Divine Sophia (Pistis Sophia) and many
learned people seem to think that Mary was the Divine Sophia.  But it doesn't
fit.  Sophia suffered grave humiliation and harm and experienced prolonged
face-in-the-dirt-syndrome.  It just doesn't fit with what we know of Mary's
life, IMO.

  Anyway, for whatever reasons, I think the Powers-That-Be stripped the
feminine out of the Divinity, or at least out of the Trinity.  If the
"Father, Son and the Holy Spirit" are all males, where did the Son come from?
 And who are the Bride and Bridegroom?  I think an application of Occam's
Razor is in order here.

Samantha

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Re: [CTRL] Ultraterrestrials

2000-06-09 Thread Samantha L.

In a message dated 6/8/00 11:41:20 PM Central Daylight Time,
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 Since we are speculating we might try to address some of these issues.
What
 if the so-called abductions of today, since I'm sure most would agree that
 abductions (as opposed to interaction and weird events not involving actual
 abduction-and possibly experimentation) are a relatively new phenomenon,
are
 merely a mental scenario and do not take place at all.

  Scoop marks, scars, implants, nosebleeds, mysterious 'miscarriages' of
confirmed pregnancies absent of tissue - all these seem to indicate a
physical component.

 Of  course IF they are physical beings AND they really DO abduct people
then
 there would have to be some purpose for it.  Would we have genetic
similarity?
   I think that we would if we each developed according to similar
 evolutionary lines, and it seems they are very much like us in the way they
 look and behave.  Interbreeding could be a possibility.

  I just read about this in "Watchers" (by Raymond Fowler, about the Betty
Andreasson Luca encounters.)  He devotes part of Chapter 11 to speculation
about this.  I'm just going to pick and choose quotes to explain:

"The similarity between the physical appearance of the so-called Watchers
and the human fetus is striking."

"Neoteny is the phenomenon of a fetal or a larval form of a species that
bypassesnormal physical development and becomes sexually mature."

"Back in the 1920's, an anatomist names Louis Bolk...theorized that Homo
sapiens is physically a fetal ape which has become sexually mature."

"Through genetic engineering, our future descendants could bypass neoteny
by  natural selection and easily produce human beings of small stature and
large   heads very similar to the aliens being reported.  The fetal head,
allowed to  develop and grow in an artificial womb, would significantly
increase the size and   the capability of the brain of the new Homo sapiens."

  He speculates that the Watchers and Homo sapiens might both have been
created from advanced extraterrestrials who have visited earth since man's
beginning - with the Watchers being given the role of caretakers.  Others
speculate that the Watchers may be our descendants coming back in time to
revitalize their gene bank, which may have been adversely affected by
environmental damage.

Samantha
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