[CTRL] MRC: NBC Knew of Slur Charge; Jacoby Denounced

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

From:

http://www.mediaresearch.org/

Media Research Center CyberAlert
Tuesday July 18, 2000 (Vol. Five; No. 118)

NBC Knew of Slur Charge; ABC Pushed to "Integrate" Court; Jacoby
Denounced; Ted's SUV

1) Monday night ABC didn't touch the allegation of an anti-Semitic
ethnic slur 26 years ago by Hillary Clinton. CBS and NBC ran full
stories. NBC avoided the specific words, CBS let viewers read them
on screen. NBC revealed it knew last year about the charge.

2) ABC refused to label Ralph Nader as a liberal. Looking as
Bush's VP options, CBS's Bill Whitaker applied incongruous
labeling: "Ridge, for example, could bring a big state but the
pro-choice Catholic could turn off the big anti-abortion bloc."

3) ABC picked up Bill Clinton's cause: "The chances of integrating
the Fourth Circuit this year appear slim," ABC's Josh Gerstein
concluded a story. Carole Simpson rued: "It is...one of the most
conservative courts in the country, and all the judges are white."

4) Boston Globe ombudsman Jack Thomas maintained Jeff Jacoby "was
lucky he wasn't fired" and suggested he "learn something about
life," become liberal. Thomas complained about how the "radical
right" wants to "rescue Jacoby as the New England conduit for
their ideology." But a Phoenix paper will welcome Jacoby back.

5) MRC Chairman L. Brent Bozell will be the substitute host
Tuesday night on Michael Reagan's national radio talk show.

6) Ted Turner, the environmentalist who tears down fences at
ranches he buys so bison and prairie dogs are free as they were
before the arrival of white settlers, drives around his property
in a gas-guzzling SUV, USA Today revealed.


Correction: A bit of a jumbled table of contents listing in the
July 17 CyberAlert. "Bill Moyers has his foundation funded the
book," should have read "had his foundation fund..."


 1) CBS and NBC on Monday night picked up on the charge in a
new book that Hillary Clinton uttered an ethnic slur during an
angry 1974 outburst, though only CBS gave viewers a clue about
what it was, but they had to read it on-screen. NBC didn't go
further than referring to an "anti-Semitic slur," and Andrea
Mitchell revealed that last year the same source told her network
about the same slur, but NBC decided to not report it.

ABC's World News Tonight didn't touch the subject Monday
night, but Monday morning all three morning shows raised the
issue, including ABC's Good Morning America on which George
Stephanopoulos, MRC analyst Jessica Anderson noticed, expressed
doubt about the charge. CNN started reporting the alleged slur and
Hillary's denial on Sunday.

On the July 17 CBS Evening News Diana Olick opened with
Hillary's denial: "I can only state unequivocally it did not
happen."

Olick explained how the charge was made in a new book, State
of a Union: Inside the Complex Marriage of Bill and Hillary
Clinton, by former National Enquirer reporter Jerry Oppenheimer.
He recounted how Paul Fray, 1974 manager of Bill Clinton's failed
House run in Arkansas, claimed Hillary made the slur in an
argument about who was to blame for the loss. Olick explained:
"Fray claims after the vote Mrs. Clinton verbally attacked him,
using this unspeakable ethnic slur."

On screen, under an old black and white photo of Fray next to
Bill Clinton, viewers saw: "F-- Jew bastard."

After a soundbite of Fray saying the comment was "indicative"
of Hillary's attitude and that she would deny ever saying it,
Olick relayed the Clinton retort: "The Clinton campaign quickly
offered proof, a 1997 letter from Fray to Mrs. Clinton apologizing
for his behavior in the ‘74 campaign. ‘I ask for your
forgiveness,' he wrote, ‘because I did say things against you and
called you names. I would say things without thinking, without
factual foundation.'"

Olick soon added: "Mrs. Clinton's Senate opponent, Congressman
Rick Lazio, quickly made it a campaign issue."

Lazio: "I don't think New Yorkers know who to believe and
therein lies a good deal of the problem."

Olick concluded: "One thing they can be sure of is this will
continue to be a nasty personal fight. Today Mrs. Clinton herself
predicted it will get worse. After all, she said, it's only July."

Over on the NBC Nightly News, Andrea Mitchell began: "Touring
Ellis Island today, the symbol of America's diversity, Hillary
Clinton angrily denies that she used an anti-Semitic slur more
than a quarter of a century ago against a former campaign aide."

After explaining the release of the book and the identity of
Paul Fray, and running a confirming soundbite from his wife Mary
Lee, Mitchell revealed that NBC heard the allegation in 1999 but
decided to not report it:

"Fray and his wife made the same charge last year to
Dateline."

Voice of off-camera NBC News producer: "Mary Lee told us that
there were ethnic slurs that she threw at you."

Fray: "Sure."

Mitchell: "But Dateline never aired the interview. Too many
questions about Fray's 

[CTRL] Arutz-7 News: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 (fwd)

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 17:56:21 +0300
From: Arutz-7 Editor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Arutz-7 News: Tuesday, July 18, 2000

Arutz Sheva News Service
http://www.IsraelNationalNews.com
Tuesday, July 18, 2000 / Tammuz 15, 5760

TODAY'S HEADLINES:

  1. AGREEMENT IS CLOSE; GRAVE CONCERN IN YESHA
  2. ARMY "READY" FOR PALESTINIAN VIOLENCE; ARE SETTLEMENTS?
  3. PALESTINIANS EXPECT FULL "RIGHT OF RETURN"
  4. BARAK'S BUSINESSMEN ADVISORS
  5. RANKS OF HUNGER STRIKERS GROW
  6. GOVERNMENT MKs IGNORE JORDAN VALLEY
  7. CHILD-ALLOWANCES TO BE RAISED
  8. ELECTRIC BUS PASSES FIRST TEST


1. AGREEMENT IS CLOSE; GRAVE CONCERN IN YESHA

Reports are mounting that some form of agreement, featuring the
division of Jerusalem, is close to being signed in Camp David.
The plan under discussion apparently involves the absorption of
Gush Etzion, Ma'aleh Adumim, and Givat Ze'ev into the Jerusalem
municipality, in exchange for the awarding of some form of
Palestinian sovereignty over several Arab neighborhoods in
eastern Jerusalem.

Cabinet Secretary Yitzchak Herzog, together with Haifa Mayor
Maj.-Gen. (res.) Amram Mitzna and Barak aide Maj.-Gen. (res.)
Yossi Peled, will conduct a briefing for Israeli reporters this
afternoon/evening at Camp David.  The Yesha Council has slated a
press conference as soon as the briefing ends.  U.S. President
Clinton is expected to delay his departure for Japan by several
hours.

On the other hand, Arafat is still reportedly not satisfied with
Barak's concessions on Jerusalem, Palestinian refugees, and Yesha
settlements; the Palestinians are demanding complete sovereignty
over the Old City of Jerusalem, exclusive control over the
mountain aquifer, Israel's recognition of its responsibility for
the refugee problem, and a complete Israeli withdrawal to the
pre-1967 borders, except for Gush Etzion, Ma'aleh Adumim and
Ariel.

Heavy pressures have been exerted by Clinton upon Prime Minister
Barak and Yasser Arafat to sign even a partial agreement before
his departure for Japan, scheduled for tomorrow.  Intense
discussions have been held late into the night and early morning
hours.  Yediot Acharonot reported this morning that the summit
had failed, and that Barak had decided to return home tomorrow.

Yediot Acharonot, whose editorials of late have been generally in
favor of the direction Barak is taking in Camp David, writes
today, "Haste makes waste" - and takes exception to the fact that
the talks are being pushed along to suit U.S. President Clinton's
schedule.  While the editors acknowledge that the White House
lawn ceremony and the Nobel Peace Prize are very important to
Bill Clinton, "they are not [as] important for the State of
Israel..."  The fact that Clinton is going to Japan should not be
a factor, the paper writes:  "We waited patiently in exile for
2,000 years.

 We returned home. We endured the Holocaust and wars.  More than
20,000 people perished along the way so that we could reach the
moment of truth. And now we should hurry up just because His
Excellency the President is going to Japan?  No way.  Peace has
waited and will wait."


2. ARMY "READY" FOR PALESTINIAN VIOLENCE; ARE SETTLEMENTS?

Meanwhile, the IDF claims to be "prepared" for Palestinian riots
anticipated in Judea and Samaria should the summit fail.  Senior
army commanders have assured Yesha leaders and residents over the
past few days that the IDF is ready to squelch the expected wave
of uprisings.

One issue of concern is the threat of mass Palestinian marches by
unarmed Arab women and children on Jewish settlements - which the
army now claims it has figured out how to "deal with."  Until
now, leading IDF officers such as Chief of Staff Lt.-Gen. Sha'ul
Mofaz have said that such marches and attempts to penetrate
Jewish towns would be treated as any other "threat to Israeli
lives."  However, the army has now formulated its plans for
marchers who are still outside the settlements:  Among other
measures, a special unarmed force will be dispatched to form a
human chain to block their progress.

Ha'aretz correspondent Amos Harel reports today that the forces
will be specially-trained in the dispersion of demonstrations.
In place of infantry, policemen and female soldiers will be
preferred. Nevertheless, the paper says, IDF snipers will be
deployed behind the unarmed forces in the event that Palestinian
gunmen placed behind the women and children open fire on the
unarmed soldiers.  Harel also reports that the army will utilize
new methods of breaking up violent crowds, including water and
dye-spraying tanks and giant nets dropped from the air.

Arutz-7's Kobi Sela reports that at least some Palestinian
elements foresee a violent post-Camp David period ahead:  Jewish
drugstores in Jerusalem, Ofrah, and Michmash were robbed this
week of almost all their medicines, while the money in the cash
registers was ignored.  Security has been beefed up around
pharmacies, and instructions have been 

[CTRL] Boortz on Trulock

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

From:

http://www.boortz.com/nealznuz.htm

DON'T TICK OFF THE FBI

Remember Notra Trulock? About a year ago we told you that Trulock
was once the former director of intelligence for the Department
of Energy. He was in charge of finding the spies who had
transferred American nuclear secrets to the Chinese and, in the
process, blew the whistle on the Clinton administration.

Back then he admitted that he was a regular visitor to
FreeRepublic.com. And that ruffled more feathers than the
espionage investigations. ABC's Cokie Roberts confronted him on
this--apparently it's taboo – or politically incorrect -- for
people to visit conservative Web sites.

Trulock has made the news again. Last Friday afternoon, two FBI
agents showed up at his house to confiscate his computer hard
drive. Their action was in response to an article Trulock wrote
for the latest National Review. The article criticized the
Clinton administration's and the FBI's handling of spy scandals
in U.S. nuclear labs.

The FBI's claim was that Trulock's article contained classified
information...but Trulock says he was careful to avoid any
references to classified materials. He even passed a
counterintelligence polygraph test in March after he wrote the
article. That's further proof that he didn't make any
inappropriate disclosures.

Hmm...another bit of retaliation against Trulock for his
whistleblowing ways?

http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment071700c.html



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[CTRL] WT: Self-inflicted GOP wounds

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

Washington Times
Self-inflicted GOP wounds

Frank J. Gaffney Jr.
Published 7/18/00



 What on Earth was he thinking? This is the question prompted
by House Speaker Dennis Hastert's selection, announced last week,
of a new national security adviser: Nancy P. Dorn, a woman who
had parlayed her stints as an official in the Reagan and Bush
administrations into a lucrative business as a registered foreign
agent.

 Not just any foreign agent. One of her troubling clients
was, in the words of Insight magazine, which broke the story, "a
division of a Communist Chinese company linked to Beijing's
military intelligence."

 Specifically, Mrs. Dorn lobbied for Hutchison Port Holdings
(HPH), a subsidiary of Hutchison Whampoa Ltd. which is, in turn,
owned by Li Ka-shing - a Hong Kong-based billionaire who
reportedly enjoys an extemely close relationship to the
leadership in Beijing and its security services.

 HPH created a stir in this country when it became known last
year that Mr. Li's subsidiary had secured under suspicious
circumstances (including allegations of corrupt dealings)
long-term leases for ports at both ends of the Panama Canal.
Concern about this ominous strategic development was intensified
because it came on the heels of a string of other problems
arising from China's operations in this hemisphere. A short
sampler of these includes:

 . Chinese intelligence agents were found to have made
illegal payments to the Clinton-Gore campaigns and secured
private meetings with the president in the White House and
elsewhere.

 . John Huang - an individual who had his own ties to
Beijing, thanks in part to his dealings there on behalf of his
Indonesian employers, the Riadys - was given an appointment as a
deputy assistant secretary in the Clinton Commerce Department. In
that capacity, he exploited his access to secret information that
might have been of interest to the People's Republic of China and
frequently thereafter made suspicious use of a private fax
machine provided by the Riadys.

 . The Cox Committee determined that Chinese intelligence had
successfully penetrated America's nuclear weapons complex, making
off with invaluable information, including blueprints for the
nation's most modern warheads.

 . Samuel "Sandy" Berger, Mr. Clinton's national security
adviser and himself a former trade lobbyist for China, had a hand
in securing an appointment to the super-sensitive President's
Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board (PFIAB) for former Rep. Jane
Harman, California Democrat. Prior to serving in Congress,
including on the House Intelligence Committee, Mrs. Harman also
worked as a registered foreign agent for a Chinese client.

 . President Clinton personally intervened on no fewer than
four separate occasions to try to secure the use of a former U.S.
Navy base in Long Beach for the Chinese merchant marine, COSCO -
a company on whose board Li Ka-shing sits and that is believed to
have been used by PRC operatives to bring hundreds of AK-47s,
illegal aliens, drugs and other contraband into this country.

 . During a state visit to China, Mr. Clinton embraced the
communist line on Taiwan and affronted America's regional allies
by refusing to visit any of them enroute to or from the PRC.

 Against this backdrop, the prospect that China was about to
secure effective control over the strategic "path between the
seas" in Panama was the last straw for many Americans. Their
concerns were only exacerbated by President Clinton's Freudian
pronouncement on Nov. 30, 1999, that: "I think the Chinese will
in fact be bending over backwards to make sure that they run it
[the Panama Canal] in a competent and able and fair manner. . . .
I would be very surprised if any adverse consequences flowed from
the Chinese running the Canal." Republicans in particular were
appalled.

 So who did Li Ka-shing turn to in order to head off GOP
efforts to reopen the bidding on the Panamanian ports in question
and to limit other political fall-out - especially efforts that
might have interfered with the plans he and his friends in
Beijing had to expand Hutchison/ China's presence in the Bahamas
and elsewhere in the hemisphere? Lobbyist Nancy Dorn.

 It turns out Mrs. Dorn was also the "go-to" woman for one of
China's leading clients, the military junta that seized power in
Pakistan last year. Presumably, her assignment was to keep
Republicans from making too much of a ruckus about the
Clinton-Gore administration's systematic failure to fulfill legal
obligations to sanction both countries over their cooperation in
the proliferation of nuclear weapons and long-range missile
technology. Whether thanks to her or others, that objective was
largely achieved.

 Perhaps Mrs. Dorn deserves credit as well for the lack of
protests from the Republican congressional leadership earlier
this year when Pakistan was curiously left off the State
Department's list of state sponsors of terrorism. 

[CTRL] WND: Press still shills for tyrants (excerpt)

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

From:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_excomm/2704_xex_the_manchuri.shtml

The Manchurian media

Today's establishment press still shills for tyrants

By I.J. Toby Westerman
© 2000, WorldNetDaily.com, Inc.


Walter Duranty, the New York Times Moscow correspondent from 1921
to 1934 and winner of the Pulitzer Prize in 1932, ranks as one of
the worst and most dangerous examples of sycophantry in
journalism.

His consistent whitewash of Soviet rule, including the man-made
famine of 1932-33 -- in which as many as 10 million men, women
and children died -- stands as a disgrace to journalism and all
those calling themselves journalists.

Malcolm Muggeridge, author, journalist and one-time socialist,
was one of the few who were able to get into the famine-ravaged
lands of the U.S.S.R. and report on what he saw. Later,
Muggeridge described Duranty as "the greatest liar of any
journalist I have met in 50 years of journalism."

Duranty's misrepresentation of events -- and the contemporary
response to them -- has a specific and immediate bearing upon how
today's news is presented, manipulated or unreported.
Unfortunately for the public, Duranty today has many spiritual
descendants whose reporting is colored by ideology and/or
self-interest.

Delayed reaction Because of Duranty's manipulation of the news in
order to placate Soviet authorities -- especially Josef Stalin --
rather than reveal the truth, the scope of horror wrought by the
communists in the pre-war U.S.S.R. was not fully comprehended
until many years later. As a result, the public could not really
gauge what communism was capable of, and what kind of man Stalin
actually was.

Duranty's activities in the Soviet Union have been revealed in
Robert Conquest's "Harvest of Sorrow," and in B.J. Taylor's
"Stalin's Apologist." Further discussion of the 1932-33 famine is
found in the appropriate chapter of "The Black Book of
Communism."

Though known, Duranty's falsification of the news has never drawn
the deep-seated wrath that one might expect, despite the fact
that his "reporting" made him complicit in the extermination of
millions of people. Duranty, in effect, was an accomplice to mass
murder, but his former employer, The New York Times, has
expressed something in the order of mere embarrassment.

Terror famine Stalin's man-made famine of 1932-33 is arguably the
largest mass killing in human history, probably surpassing even
Hitler's extermination campaigns, and extended in territory from
the Ukraine to Kazakstan in Central Asia -- nearly 2,000 miles.
The barbarity was enormous, but did not provoke Duranty to
action.

The "reason" behind the slaughter was the continuing struggle
between the central government in Moscow and small farmers in
various regions who resisted collectivization of the land. It was
in those areas where resistance to collectivization was the
strongest that the famine struck.

An additional desired result of the famine was the destruction of
Ukrainian nationalism.

The great terror-famine had nothing to do with poor harvests or
even an inadequate supply of food. Not only was there enough
food, during the 1932-33 famine, the Soviet Union actually
exported food.

In reprisal to resistance to earlier attempts at
collectivization, Stalin ordered that certain areas meet
impossible quotas of grain and other foodstuffs. The central
government took everything edible. Men and women were shot for
eating produce from their own fields. The numbers of dead mounted
as the process of extermination proceeded.

The NKVD, predecessor to the better-known KGB, was in complete
control of the regions affected. At will, roads could be blocked,
villages isolated and, of course, individuals executed without
trial or warning.

Secrecy was vital. Though diplomats of various nations did learn
of Stalin's war of extermination, there would be no threat to
carrying the plan out as long as the general public outside the
Soviet Union remained ignorant.

The cover-up Publicity regarding the famine would have caused
great damage to the image of the Soviet Union, its leader Josef
Stalin and attempts to spread communist ideology.

On the rare occasion that an accurate report on the famine was
published in the press, reassurances quickly appeared countering
the original report and diluting its effect. Of all those
involved in famine disinformation, Duranty, as Moscow
correspondent for the prestigious New York Times, proved one of
the most useful.

In 1932 Duranty wrote that there was no famine, nor "is there
likely to be." He knew differently. In September 1933, Duranty
detailed to British diplomats how many had died and where: The
North Caucasus and Lower Volga had lost 3 million people in the
past year; Ukraine lost 4 to 5 million, and the total, Duranty
stated, could be as high as 10 million.

The truth concerning the terror-famine was difficult to assess,
but Duranty knew it.

The NKVD had taken extreme measures to isolate and destroy as
much evidence as possible 

[CTRL] AP: U.S. Senator from Georgia dies

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution: 7.18.2000 Updated 7:15 p.m.]

U.S.  Senator from Georgia dies

The Associated Press

ATLANTA - U.S.  Sen.  Paul Coverdell, a congressional workhorse
who quickly ascended to a leadership post and served as the
Senate point man for longtime friend George W.  Bush, died this
evening, one day after surgery for a stroke.  He was 61.

Coverdell was hospitalized Saturday after complaining of intense
headaches. Doctors operated on him Monday, attempting to relieve
pressure on his brain from a cerebral hemorrhage.

His death was caused by uncontrollable swelling in the brain,
that caused pressure on vital areas regulating consciousness,
breathing, pulse and blood pressure, the hospital said.

Gov.  Roy Barnes, a Democrat, has the option of appointing a
successor to serve until a special election, which would coincide
with the November general election.

Georgia Republican Chairman Chuck Clay said Coverdell's death "is
a loss for Georgia and, at a human level, my heart goes out to
Nancy and the Coverdell family.  As a friend, I am terribly
saddened at the loss of a peer, a friend, a mentor and a truly
great leader."

Coverdell built a reputation as an effective, behind-the-scenes
operative for Senate Republicans, working long hours to organize
his colleagues into a unified voice.  He became a close ally of
Sen.  Trent Lott, R-Miss., and worked his way into the Senate GOP
leadership after Lott became majority leader in 1996.

Coverdell served as secretary of the Senate Republican
Conference, the fourth ranking GOP leadership post. Lott
affectionately referred to him as "Mikey," handing the
unglamorous tasks or pointed media questions to Coverdell with
the comment, "That's a job for Mikey."

Aides said the reference came from a 1970s TV commercial for Life
cereal.  In it, a pudgy boy named Mikey agrees to try the cereal,
even though his friends wouldn't because "it's sposed to be good
for you."

Coverdell's signature issue in the Senate for the past four years
was education, specifically his proposal to expand higher
education savings accounts to allow tax-free withdrawals for
school expenses from kindergarten through high school.

Clinton vetoed the measure in 1998, and forced Republicans to
pull it from a year-end budget bill in 1997 under threat of a
veto.  The president maintained that the measure would hurt
public schools and benefit only wealthy families.  Coverdell had
been pushing the legislation again this year.

Bush tapped Coverdell earlier this year to serve as the Senate
liaison for his presidential campaign.  It was a natural choice,
given that Coverdell's relationship with the Bush family dated
back three decades.

Coverdell first met former President Bush in the 1970s when he
was in the Georgia Senate and Bush was ambassador to the United
Nations.  When Bush ran for president in 1980, Coverdell was his
finance chairman in Georgia.

Eight years later, Coverdell served as Bush's Southern steering
committee chairman.  Once Bush was in the White House, he tapped
Coverdell to head the Peace Corps, a job he held until he
resigned in 1991 to return to Georgia and run for the Senate.

Coverdell and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich were the
architects of the modern Republican Party in Georgia. During 16
years in the Georgia Senate, Coverdell was the best known GOP
office holder in a state that was dominated from top to bottom by
Democrats.

His party-building efforts paid off in 1998, when Coverdell
became the first Republican to win re-election to the Senate from
Georgia since Reconstruction.  Republicans and Democrats had
traded the seat he held every six years since former Sen.  Mack
Mattingly became Georgia's first GOP senator this century in
1980.

Coverdell's election helped get Clinton's first term off on a
sour note.  The 1992 election that propelled Clinton into the
presidency put Coverdell and former Sen.  Wyche Fowler Jr. into
the first-ever general election runoff in Georgia history.

Fowler, who had been expected to win handily, led Coverdell in
the general election but because of a Liberterian Party
candidate, he fell short of the 50 percent majority that Georgia
law at the time required for election to the Senate.

Clinton, as president-elect, came to Georgia to campaign for
Fowler, but it didn't help.  Coverdell narrowly defeated the
Democratic incumbent in the runoff, dealing Clinton a setback
before he even took office.

Once in Washington, Coverdell played a key role in mobilizing GOP
opposition to Clinton's health care reform initiative in 1993.
Emboldened by that success, he became one of Clinton's most
outspoken critics in the Senate, both on domestic and foreign
policy issues.

Coverdell was born Jan.  29, 1939 in Des Moines, Iowa, and
received a bachelor's degree in journalism in 1961 from the
University of Missouri.  He served two years in the Army in
Okinawa, Korea and Taiwan before returning and helping his
parents start the family's Atlanta 

[CTRL] NYT: Germans Sign Agreement to Pay Forced Laborers of Nazi Era

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

[Is Clinton making more phony promises?  Or is there something
tricky afoot that I'm missing?]


July 18, 2000

Germans Sign Agreement to Pay Forced Laborers of Nazi Era

By EDMUND L. ANDREWS


ERLIN, July 17 -- It has been 55 years since Karel Horak was
forced to work at Czech factories seized by Hitler's forces.
Today, as he watched with the patience acquired over a long life,
the United States and Germany approved a $5 billion agreement to
compensate forced laborers like him from the Nazi era. "I just
hope they can move quickly," Mr. Horak said, "because I am
already 80 years old. People around me are dying very rapidly."

Mr. Horak, who is vice president of an association in Prague of
former forced workers, said, "We had 640,000 forced laborers at
the end of the war, and now there are only 61,000."

Today, after a half-century of denial and two years of grueling
negotiations, German government and industry leaders formally
signed an agreement that is intended to bring at least legal
closure to the last remaining claims arising from atrocities of
the Nazi regime.

Under the agreement, the German government and German companies
will contribute equally to a $5 billion fund to compensate former
laborers, possibly more than a million of them, who were slave
workers in concentration camps or forced laborers in German
factories.

Former slave workers are entitled to payments of about $7,500.
Former forced laborers are entitled to about $2,500.

Other victims, such as people who had their property seized or
who were victims of Nazi medical experiments, will also be able
to file for compensation.

** In exchange for the agreement, President Clinton has pledged
** that the United States will do everything it can to block new
** class-action lawsuits brought in the United States against
** German corporations.

It is a historic bargain, because it is intended to compensate
Nazi-era victims in more than 20 countries, from Poland and
Ukraine to Russia and Israel.

Only a small minority of the people have ever set foot in the
United States, but the United States assumed the lead negotiating
role with Germany because American class-action lawyers had filed
lawsuits on behalf of victims from around the world against
German companies like DaimlerChrysler, Siemens and Deutsche Bank.

There are still a few snags, including the fact that German
companies have raised only half the amount they have pledged. But
people on all sides of the talks predicted today that the money
is not in serious doubt. With any luck, they said, survivors
would start receiving payments sometime this year.

"This fills a void that has existed for 55 years," said Stuart E.
Eizenstat, the United States deputy secretary of Treasury, who
led negotiations for the American government. "This had never
been dealt with. It had fallen off the agenda."

Lawyers who brought the cases will earn a large amount, about $50
million, but that is just 1 percent of the total, Mr. Eizenstat
said.

Germany has paid nearly $100 billion in various forms of
compensation and support to Jewish groups, the state of Israel
and to Central European countries that the Germans invaded during
World War II.

But surviving forced laborers received little or nothing, largely
because German corporations insisted that the government was
responsible. And former Chancellor Helmut Kohl, who controlled
the government from 1982 to 1998, adamantly refused to contribute
any public money to the workers.

But two things abruptly changed the picture. The first was the
successful use of American class-action lawsuits against Swiss
banks, which had been accused of hoarding wealth in dormant
accounts set up by Holocaust victims. The suits never went to
trial and the Swiss banks agreed to settle out of court with
promises to pay $1.25 billion. The Swiss case quickly prompted
American lawyers to take aim at German corporations, particularly
on the issue of forced labor. Though none of the cases have
succeeded in court, and two were rejected by federal courts, the
threat of prolonged litigation and nightmarish publicity was
terrifying to companies like DaimlerChrysler and Deutsche Bank
which do vast amounts of business in the United States.

The other big change was Gerhard Schroeder's election as
chancellor in late 1998. Almost immediately, Mr. Schroeder
announced his desire to create a foundation that would compensate
victims and that would be funded in part with government money.

"Without the government's willingness to contribute, we could
never have gotten up to the minimum level we needed," Mr.
Eizenstat said in an interview today. "The fact that the
government came in at a time when it was cutting its own budget
is remarkable."

Mr. Schroeder, presiding over the signing ceremonies, seemed
mainly relieved that the negotiations were finally over. When
German businesses first proposed a settlement 2 years ago, they
offered 1.5 billion marks, or about $750 million at current
exchange rates. 

[CTRL] The Hate Crime Double-Standard

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

CommentMax

The Hate Crime Double-Standard

Paul Weyrich July 18, 2000

The Senate has passed a so-called hate crimes bill which, should
it become law, endangers the liberties of all who are not part of
a protected class.  In fact, the legislation, pushed by Senators
Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts, a Democrat, and Republican Gordon
Smith of Oregon, so expands the number of protected classes in
this country that the only group not now covered is white males
who are not handicapped.

That's right.  Every other group, including racial minorities,
the handicapped, homosexuals, and women all belong to a protected
class.  So if a homosexual kills a non-handicapped white male it
is not a hate crime.  But if that white male kills a homosexual
it is a hate crime.

Likewise with women.  If a woman maims a white male it is not a
hate crime under this legislation but if a white male maims a
woman of any color for any reason it is a hate crime and so it
goes.

So for the first time in American history there are two classes
of people before the law in the United States.  Those who are of
a protected class whose crimes will be regarded just as they are
- and those white males, who under this theory are the
oppressors, and who therefore must be guilty of hate if they
commit a crime against any one of the protected class.  The only
way a white male can now escape being charged with committing a
hate crime is to commit the crime against another white male.
Then the crime will be judged solely on its merits.

In other societies there were protected classes.  Royalty could
not commit a crime against the peasants.  Only the peasants could
commit crimes against royalty.  Our ancestors fought a revolution
to get us out from under such inequality before the law and here
we are when 44 Democrats and 13 Republicans can seek to change
our form of government.

Most of the Republicans who caved into this nonsense are up for
re-election this year.  Obviously the radical feminist,
homosexual and racial preference lobbies have them running
scared.  As to the entire delegation of Democrats in the Senate,
it shows how far that party has come that there would not be a
single dissenter to a proposition that fundamentally alters our
system of laws.

Thus far, the House leadership has not looked kindly on this
legislation.  There is a chance they can scuttle the
Senate-passed bill and save us and our system of government.
Still it is frightening to have 57 Senators affirm this kind of
proposition.  As Paul Craig Roberts has pointed out, this
initiative is unusual in that it is being led by white males
against white males.  It just shows how some white males have
come to believe the propaganda that the real enemies of society
are oppressive white males.

Therefore, to demonstrate that they are not "one of them," these
Senators sign on to legislation designed to indict their own
class.

They apparently think if this bill does become law they will be
eaten last by this alligator.  I have big news for the 57
Senators who voted for this legislation.  If they succeed and
this radical doctrine does become the law of the land, they will
be among the first to be targeted.  And they will richly deserve
their fate, whatever it is.


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[CTRL] NYT: Rep. Burton Raises Questions About a Gore Remark at 1995 White House Event

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

July 19, 2000

Rep.  Burton Raises Questions About a Gore Remark at 1995 White House Event

By DON VAN NATTA Jr.


WASHINGTON, July 18 -- Representative Dan Burton urged Justice
Department lawyers today to question Vice President Al Gore about
a remark that he made on a videotape of a White House coffee in
December 1995.

The videotape is sensitive because it shows both President
Clinton and Mr.  Gore and contains two references to James T.
Riady, an Indonesian businessman who did not attend the coffee
but whose large contributions to the Democratic Party are the
subject of a federal investigation of campaign finance abuses.

On the tape of the event, which took place on Dec.  15, 1995, in
the Roosevelt Room of the White House, Mr. Gore addresses Arief
Wiriadinata, an Indonesian gardener who illegally contributed
$455,000 to the Democratic Party earlier that year.  The vice
president apparently mentions Mr.  Riady.

Mr.  Gore is heard telling Mr.  Wiriadinata that political issue
television advertisements, paid for by large contributors to the
Democratic Party, should be shown to Mr. Riady, Mr.  Burton's
investigators said.  Mr. Riady had not contributed any money to
the Democrats in either 1995 or 1996.

On the tape, according to Mr.  Burton, the vice president is
heard saying, "We ought to, we ought to, we ought to show Mr.
Riady the tapes, some of the ad tapes."

Mr.  Gore is not seen on the tape saying those words, but Mr.
Burton and committee staff's lawyers have concluded that it is
the vice president's voice.

"Given the vice president's apparent location in the room, and
the apparent location of Mr.  Wiriadinata, it is a reasonable
assumption that Vice President Gore was making this suggestion to
Mr.  Wiriadinata," Mr. Burton wrote today in a five-page letter
on the subject to Attorney General Janet Reno.

"It would indeed be extraordinary for the vice president to
suggest showing political issue advertisements to an Indonesian
billionaire who lives in Jakarta, Indonesia."

During the same coffee, Mr.  Wiriadinata tells President Clinton,
"James Riady sent me."

Jim Kennedy, a spokesman for Mr.  Gore, said, "Wait until Dan
Burton finds out that when you play the tape backwards it says,
'Paul is dead.' "

Mr.  Kennedy declined to comment further.

Mr.  Burton, an Indiana Republican, is the chairman of the House
Committee on Government Reform, which has investigated campaign
finance abuses since 1997 and has had the videotape since late
that year. It was unclear why the committee is pursuing the issue
of Mr.  Gore's comment now, but Mr.  Burton intends to ask
several witnesses about the matter at a hearing scheduled for
Thursday.

Last week the committee's investigators subpoenaed the original
of the videotape from the White House and reviewed it on Monday
at the Federal Bureau of Investigation laboratory in Quantico,
Va., to ensure the accuracy of the words attributed to Mr.
Gore.  Committee investigators say the vice president's remark
raises a question about what he may have known about any
relationship between Mr.  Wiriadinata and Mr.  Riady.

The committee referred the videotape to the Justice Department
last December, but Mr.  Gore was not asked about it during his
interview with federal investigators last April 19 or in four
previous interviews.

Mr.  Burton said today that this raised further questions about
the aggressiveness of the department's campaign finance inquiry.

"At a minimum, it is deeply disturbing that the Justice
Department has failed to take this piece of potential evidence
seriously," Mr.  Burton wrote.

In an interview today, James C.  Wilson, the committee's chief
counsel, said: "It would have been easy for the Justice
Department to have followed up on this information last year.  I
don't understand why the attorney general failed to do so."

Mr.  Wiriadinata's contributions to the Democratic Party,
totaling $455,000, made headlines in late 1996 after it was
reported that he had little income working as a gardener in
northern Virginia.  His father-in-law was a partner of Mr.
Riady at the Lippo Group, the Riady family conglomerate.  The
Democratic National Committee returned Mr. Wiriadinata's
contributions in 1997.

Mr.  Wiriadinata is believed to be living in Indonesia and has
not responded to the Burton committee's efforts to interview him.

A White House official said that, after listening to the tape,
aides to Mr. Gore were not convinced that Mr.  Riady's name was
used by the vice president.  "People say the V.P.  is using a
two-syllable name, like Dotty or Godfrey, and not a five-syllable
phrase like Mr.  Riady," the official said.

Earlier, the official suggested more definitively that Mr.  Gore
had used the name "Godfrey" during the remark.  A Houston lawyer,
Lee Godfrey, had attended the same coffee.

In April, Mr.  Gore told investigators that he had seen Mr.
Riady only "twice in my life." The first time was during a trip
to Malaysia, and the second time was "when 

[CTRL] WP: Starr Ex-Aide Depicted as Repeat Liar

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

Starr Ex-Aide Depicted as Repeat Liar

By Bill Miller
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, July 19, 2000 ; A09


The trial of Kenneth W. Starr's former spokesman came to a close
yesterday with prosecutors contending that Charles G. Bakaly III
has lied from the start about his role in a New York Times story
concerning the possibility of indicting President Clinton.

Justice Department lawyer Alan Gershel said Bakaly is stuck in a
"cycle" of lies, and Gershel accused Starr's onetime aide of
fabricating the truth again this week when he took the witness
stand in his defense against a criminal contempt-of-court charge.
In his testimony, Bakaly denied leaking any nonpublic information
to the Times, just as he had in a sworn declaration to the court
last year that is the focal point of his trial.

"This defendant has lied not once, but twice," Gershel declared
in closing arguments in U.S. District Court yesterday. "He lied
when he filed his declaration. And he lied when he sat up there
and under oath described his conduct. He was untruthful."

Despite his denials of leaking anything improper, Bakaly
essentially gave the Times "a place at the table" of a secret
discussion held in January 1999 within Starr's independent
counsel's office, Gershel said. Bakaly reconstructed legal
options raised by Starr's lawyers, he said. Four days after the
internal meeting, the article appeared in the midst of Clinton's
impeachment trial stemming from the Monica Lewinsky scandal.

Defense lawyer Michele A. Roberts brushed aside Gershel's
allegations, saying the prosecution team "has not come close to
meeting its burden" of showing Bakaly's declaration was false and
misleading. "The statement was true then. The statement is true
now, and as a result, Mr. Bakaly should be found not guilty,"
Roberts said.

The lawyers' arguments capped a four-day trial that provided a
window into the hectic atmosphere of Starr's office, where
Bakaly, a seasoned lawyer and public relations specialist,
fielded 50 or so calls a day from reporters seeking the latest
angle.

Chief U.S. District Judge Norma Holloway Johnson, who heard the
case without a jury, asked lawyers to submit proposed findings to
her by Aug. 11. She gave no timetable for a decision. If
convicted, Bakaly, 45, could face up to six months in jail.

Bakaly's conversations with Times reporter Don Van Natta Jr. took
place in the weeks leading to the Jan. 31, 1999, story that
revealed Starr had concluded he had the constitutional authority
to indict a sitting president. The story said some prosecutors in
Starr's office wanted to seek an indictment soon after the
impeachment trial ended. It also listed four options for moving
forward: end the case with no indictment; indict Clinton at the
time; indict him under seal; or indict him once he leaves office.

The day after the story was published, Bakaly appeared on "Good
Morning America" and distanced Starr's office from the Times
account, saying, "It's not our story." Days later, he provided
the sworn declaration to the court in which he denied discussing
any nonpublic information with Van Natta or revealing what
Starr's office was thinking.

Starr's lawyers submitted Bakaly's declaration to Johnson along
with a brief in which they said Van Natta told Bakaly his
information had come from sources "outside" their office. They
later withdrew the declaration, and Bakaly resigned in March
1999.

After the Times story appeared, Starr asked the FBI to
investigate whether anyone in his office had leaked unauthorized
information. Bakaly told the FBI that he talked about the four
options with Van Natta and provided some minor details used in
the story but he insisted, as he did this week, that he did not
discuss internal deliberations.

Roberts said Bakaly's discussions with Van Natta concerned
matters of public knowledge and that Starr's options were obvious
to any legal analyst.

Gershel said the timing of Bakaly's discussions with Van Natta
cast the matter in an entirely different light. He said Bakaly
wanted the public to get the message: "Stay tuned, people,
because no matter what happens on the Hill, we're not done yet."

"His lie is built on a house of cards," Gershel said. "One lie
begets another lie. At the end of the day, when it all comes out,
it all falls apart."



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[CTRL] WND: Vince Fosterhaunts Hillary?

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

ALL THE PRESIDENT'S SCANDALS

Vince Foster haunts Hillary?

Independent counsel trying to retrieve files
from late White House lawyer's hard drive


By Paul Sperry
© 2000 WorldNetDaily.com

WASHINGTON -- Agents for Independent Counsel
Robert Ray have secured late White House lawyer
Vincent Foster's computer hard drive and are trying to
recover files from it, WorldNetDaily has learned.

They're also interested in the White House back-up tapes
of Foster's C: drive, sources say.

Foster worked closely with first lady Hillary Clinton, his
former Arkansas law partner, and was dealing with
Travelgate and the first couple's Whitewater tax returns
before he died suddenly in 1993.

Sources familiar with the independent counsel's ongoing
investigation into Whitewater -- including the frantic,
late-night search of Foster's West Wing office after his
untimely death -- say prosecutors are working with FBI
computer-forensics experts to retrieve data from Foster's
hard drive.

Prosecutors also are asking White House witnesses about
back-up tapes to Foster's hard drive, sources say.

A prosecutor in Ray's office confirmed that the Foster
case is still open as part of the overall Whitewater
investigation.

"That particular matter was a part of the
Whitewater-Madison Guarantee (Savings  Loan
Association) jurisdiction," the prosecutor, who asked not to
be named, told WorldNetDaily. "And we have not filed a
final report in that matter."

Former Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr closed the
investigation into Foster's death, ruling it a suicide. He
concluded Foster shot himself in the head on July 20, 1993,
in Fort Marcy Park, using an antique Colt pistol he'd
concealed in an oven mitt. Starr ruled out foul play,
although a bullet was never found at the scene.

According to well-placed sources who insisted on
anonymity, prosecutors did not recover Foster's hard drive
from the White House.

The White House originally stored Foster's computer in the
West Wing, but then moved it to the New Executive
Office Building.

At least the external hardware is still there in a storage
area, wrapped in plastic. It's labeled, with three-inch
letters, "FOSTER'S PC," according to sources who have
seen it.

At some point, Foster's hard drive was removed.

James MacDonald, a Bush appointee who headed White
House computer operations, kept it in his office, sources
say. Before he was replaced in 1996, he gave it to another
White House official, who kept it in his office for awhile.
He has also left the White House.

Sources say West Wing political appointees such as Patsy
Thomasson and Marsha Scott were not aware that
Foster's hard drive was floating around at the New
Executive Office Building, which is across Pennsylvania
Avenue from the White House.

It's not clear if the Foster hard drive in the possession of
Ray's office has been erased or wiped clean. If it has been
erased or reformatted, experts in computer evidence, using
special software and hardware, can still recover data from
it.

But wiping a hard disk, which involves running a software
process that writes a series of 0s and 1s over characters in
text files, renders it unreadable.

It's also not clear if prosecutors have all or just part of
Foster's hard drive. But they'll know soon enough if they
have fragmented data.

Officials who knew Foster have said in the past that he
preferred writing notes and memos by hand and was not
known to use his computer much for word processing.
Whether he used it for spreadsheets or other tasks is
another question.

Also interested in Foster's hard-drive tapes is U.S. District
Judge Royce Lamberth.

Earlier this month, he ordered the White House to search
them for information relevant to the Cara Leslie

[CTRL] WND: Russian mercenaries flying for Ethiopia

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

From:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_smith_news/2718_xnsof_russian_me.shtml

Russian mercenaries flying for Ethiopia

Advisers, pilots, artillerymen engaged in 'large-scale offensive'
against Eritrea


By Charles Smith
© 2000 WorldNetDaily.com

WorldNetDaily has learned that Russian "mercenary" pilots are
flying advanced fighter jets for Ethiopia in its conflict with
Eritrea.

The report follows the confirmation that an Ethiopian Su-27
Flanker destroyed an Eritrea MiG-29 Fulcrum.

"There are a lot of Russian advisers who are active," responded
Eritrea Embassy spokesperson Vicky Rentmeesters. "They are not
just sitting at a desk. Our embassy in Moscow made a complaint
with the Russian Ministry of Defense, including a list of
Russians working for the Ethiopian military."

The Eritrea embassy supplied WorldNetDaily with the complaint
issued to Moscow, including the names of alleged Russian military
"senior specialists working in the Air Force (mainly pilots)."


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/images/2718_xnsof_russian_mer3.gif

According to a May article published in the Russian Independent
Newspaper, official Ethiopian spokesman Haile Kiros announced the
first published aerial victory for the advanced Sukhoi Su-27 jet
fighter. Kiros told reporters that an Ethiopian Air Force Su-27,
NATO code-name "Flanker," had shot down an Eritrean MiG-29A, NATO
code-name "Fulcrum."

Kiros alleged that the Eritrean MiG had penetrated deep into
Ethiopian air space and that an air-to-air missile fired by the
Sukhoi fighter downed the aircraft. Both Addis-Ababa and Moscow
deny that Russians are flying combat missions.

Eritrea accuses Moscow of supplying "specialists from the
Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation" to the Ethiopian
military and of "directly working together with Russian
mercenaries."

"The Eritrean government had through its Embassy in Moscow
informed the Russian government that it has incontrovertible
material evidence at hand of the direct participation of Russian
senior military advisers, aircraft and helicopter pilots as well
as anti-aircraft specialists and heavy artillery personnel in the
large-scale offensive Ethiopia unleashed in February 1999 against
Eritrea.," said the statement.

According to the Eritrean statement issued in May to Moscow, "In
the ongoing aggression against Eritrea, Russian military advisers
and personnel, both in the air and on the ground are fully
participating on the side of the aggressor. In December 1999,
after the visit of the Ethiopian minister of defence to Moscow,
the flow of more senior Russian military advisers and specialists
to Ethiopia was intensified."

The Eritrean protest statement issued to Moscow noted, "Over
70,000 Eritreans and Ethiopians of Eritrean origin were cleansed
and deported with the most savage violations of human rights."

WorldNetDaily contacted the Russian Embassy, but officials there
refused to comment on the Eritrean complaint.

According to Russian sources, in 1998, Ethiopia acquired eight
Sukhoi Su-27 Flankers and Eritrea acquired six MiG-29 fighters.
The two nations have fought a long battle over control of
disputed territories. The introduction of an advanced fighter
such as the Su-27 into Africa could be perceived as a direct
threat to Saudi Arabia, Israel, Egypt, the Suez Canal and U.S.
Naval forces transiting the canal. The only other Russian client
states to field the advanced Sukhoi strike-fighter are India and
China.

The Su-27 Flanker is nuclear-capable and can fire several types
of Russian-made supersonic, anti-ship and land-attack cruise
missiles such as the Yahont and the 3m82 Moskit. The Su-27 also
has an extreme range. The Su-27 jet fighters stationed in
Ethiopia are capable of launching strikes against Saudi oilfields
or against ships in the Red Sea.

The advanced strike-fighter is also a particular favorite for
Russian pilots who have performed seemingly impossible
aerodynamic maneuvers in the Su-27 during air shows. Western
military defense officials are concerned that U.S. military
aircraft would not be able to defend against the advanced AA-11
"Archer" missile that arms the Su-27.

This is not the first allegation of paid Russian military
volunteers serving in the armed forces of other countries closely
allied with Russia. In April, Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R. Calif.,
submitted a bill, designed to halt the Russian missile sales to
China, called the "Russian Anti-Ship Missile Nonproliferation
Act."

The House legislation contains previously unreleased information
about the new strategic partnership between Russia and China.
According to the bill, the first of two Russian-built
Sovremenny-class destroyers sold to China passed by Taiwan while
manned by a "mixed Russian and Chinese naval crew."


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Re: [CTRL] HAARP - Fabricating God

[Robert F. Tatman]

Over the last few weeks I've been mulling over why we're seeing such an
epidemic of rage--"road rage," "air rage," even "rink rage," to mention only
a few manifestations.  I have gradually come to the conclusion that this
*has* to  have been orchestrated.  At first I just thought it was the
expected fin-de-siècle madness, but the patterns and the nature of the rage
make it clear that people's minds are being manipulated.  And the most
likely mechanism, IMO, is HAARP, just as HAARP is almost certainly behind
many, if not most, of the aircraft crashes of the past few years.

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Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 12:35 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] HAARP - Fabricating God


 In a message dated 00-07-18 23:34:37 EDT, you write:

 
  I was going to add quite a bit here, but at
  this point, let us see if this post generates
  any constructive or informative responses.

  Tsadowq
   

 One of the more productive avenues of research is the recent finding
 of a ULF frequency embedded into the planetary HAARP propagation.
 HAARP (and related systems) as a ULF generator may have two functions (1)
ULF
 affects the human limbic system and may be a mind control agent (2) ULF
(as
 well as electromagnetic frequencies) may affect seismic processes -
notably
 around the magnetosphere and the tectonic system of 20 or so inverted
 tectonic plates that cover the Earth's surface.

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Re: [CTRL] HAARP - Fabricating God

[Aleisha Saba]

Tsadowq:   Hope I never have to pronouce your name here.

Just kidding.

So the line in your letter which equates to "Neither shall he return to
his house any more"  from Job, in the bibleis line which deciphered
meant JFK and RFK would not being going to White Houseastrologers
mark of doom, part of bible code.   Willl not go into that one, but
every high degree mason who does his homework knows there is a secret
society using masonic ritutals, there is a group known as the Tarot Card
Assassins tearing this country apart and believe me - THEY ARE
BACKin for the kill and they want to return us to the 60 period and
teachings of Madame Helene Blavatsky are deeply involved in this one.

When we speak of freedom from and of religion I always took this to
mean, you send people h elected offices who try to live up to high
standards established by law and they carry their righteousness from
their personal life to their political life - religion under our
constitution is not a test or qualification for holding office - the
word is integrity, or the word is ethics.

Religion is simple matter of right and wrong, the Golden Rule and
remembering "a gift doth blind the eyes of a Judge".the bible is a
book of law and an expose of past deeds of our ancestors, be they good
or be they evil.

The bible is a psychological profile of man from the Garden of Eden
(tainted fruit from tree of knowledge and they did steal them apples)
but I think best reflected in Job - a righteous man virtually torn
apartJob 19-21 i particular had to be favorite grounds for thoughts
of Sigmund Freud as he attempted to replace the bible with psychiatry.
Astrologers Mark of Doom in bible alsoin Job "neither shall he
return to his house anymore"and JFK and RFK, did not - this house is
the White House re bible code.

So..teachings of Madame Helene Blavatsky - by systematic
assassination of a country's leaders the people will be demoralized.

This is how this sick, twisted perverted element got their hooks in, and
control over the Democrat Party.Union Leaders sold out the workers,
and Mafia moves in for the money and control.then destroy them all
by inviting the leaders into CFR - Leonard Woodcock attended Walter
Reuther's funeral as honorary pall bearer (have funeral programs) and
this man sold old went into CFR with Wurf..tis how they play the
game.

Slowly Amerca awakens to fact something is terribly wrong; many in the
past have gone out like John the Baptist and nearly met, and some did
maybe, met with his fate for nobody listens and nobody cares, until they
are personally hurt.

You look at the life of the Amish - many would like to escape to this
lifestye but take all the modern convenience with them.

God threw Lucipher out of heaven, he was the Bright Son of the Morning,
Luciper?   Then Jesus in Revelations wars "I AM the Bright and Morning
Star" the Alpha and the Omega - the beginning and end end and time is a
circle with no endso we have Jesus Christ warning Lucipher that I AM
the Bright and Morning Star, and that is a warning to all to straighten
up and fly right, or they get the boot too..

Still do not know whether earth is heaven or hell, or is it what we make
it?

I do know this - in Ethiopia and Angola and South Africa, life is
hellwho murders and steals from Africa?   If people in Africa kept
their own national resources - they would all be rich.?

See murder in the Balkans?   See genocides and exterminations of a
people for no reason other than greed or jealousy yet who fnances and
has the gold to so do these wars/

Christ fed the 5,000 did he not?

So when I read the bible and your line reference returning home..I
think of FDR, and how they played the NEW WORLD SYMPHONY, the beautiful
but sald old song, Going Home.he went home to his father, as did JFK
and RFK - timed to Master Plan for Murder keyed to Stars and
Testaments

When you see the Master Plan, so simple, right in the open but when you
see the timetable and calendar/code you see the evil now in possession
of the only book the Pilgrims had, when they set foot on the Rock upon
which they buit their house.

As was once said "Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of
men"..look to Clinton, he symbolizes to me all that is evil, yet he
appears to be the Angel of Light - perhaps the Illuminated one"

For you see the Illuminati made their home in the Garden of Eden through
their father.and that guy went out on his belly, and not his feet.

I know this, the President of the United States elected to office this
year is in great danger.   He is scheduled for death or aination in
office, and it is no divine revelation or divine plan - this the Master
Plan straight out of Job and Daniel and Ezekial - the enemy stilll
recites Death to America and to all for which it stands.

White man is number one target - and that second and third man in line
for President, better be careful who is placed in htis 

Re: [CTRL] HAARP - Fabricating God

[Eagle 1]

I happen to know how his name is pronounced,
It's "zadok",  but spelled the way he spells it.

This story posted below has to be one of the biggest *confabulations*  I've
ever encountered...

You must have the New World Order version...   NWOV
whew!

eagle 1


- Original Message -
From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] HAARP - Fabricating God


 Tsadowq:   Hope I never have to pronouce your name here.

 Just kidding.

 So the line in your letter which equates to "Neither shall he return to
 his house any more"  from Job, in the bibleis line which deciphered
 meant JFK and RFK would not being going to White Houseastrologers
 mark of doom, part of bible code.   Willl not go into that one, but
 every high degree mason who does his homework knows there is a secret
 society using masonic ritutals, there is a group known as the Tarot Card
 Assassins tearing this country apart and believe me - THEY ARE
 BACKin for the kill and they want to return us to the 60 period and
 teachings of Madame Helene Blavatsky are deeply involved in this one.

 When we speak of freedom from and of religion I always took this to
 mean, you send people h elected offices who try to live up to high
 standards established by law and they carry their righteousness from
 their personal life to their political life - religion under our
 constitution is not a test or qualification for holding office - the
 word is integrity, or the word is ethics.

 Religion is simple matter of right and wrong, the Golden Rule and
 remembering "a gift doth blind the eyes of a Judge".the bible is a
 book of law and an expose of past deeds of our ancestors, be they good
 or be they evil.

 The bible is a psychological profile of man from the Garden of Eden
 (tainted fruit from tree of knowledge and they did steal them apples)
 but I think best reflected in Job - a righteous man virtually torn
 apartJob 19-21 i particular had to be favorite grounds for thoughts
 of Sigmund Freud as he attempted to replace the bible with psychiatry.
 Astrologers Mark of Doom in bible alsoin Job "neither shall he
 return to his house anymore"and JFK and RFK, did not - this house is
 the White House re bible code.

 So..teachings of Madame Helene Blavatsky - by systematic
 assassination of a country's leaders the people will be demoralized.

 This is how this sick, twisted perverted element got their hooks in, and
 control over the Democrat Party.Union Leaders sold out the workers,
 and Mafia moves in for the money and control.then destroy them all
 by inviting the leaders into CFR - Leonard Woodcock attended Walter
 Reuther's funeral as honorary pall bearer (have funeral programs) and
 this man sold old went into CFR with Wurf..tis how they play the
 game.

 Slowly Amerca awakens to fact something is terribly wrong; many in the
 past have gone out like John the Baptist and nearly met, and some did
 maybe, met with his fate for nobody listens and nobody cares, until they
 are personally hurt.

 You look at the life of the Amish - many would like to escape to this
 lifestye but take all the modern convenience with them.

 God threw Lucipher out of heaven, he was the Bright Son of the Morning,
 Luciper?   Then Jesus in Revelations wars "I AM the Bright and Morning
 Star" the Alpha and the Omega - the beginning and end end and time is a
 circle with no endso we have Jesus Christ warning Lucipher that I AM
 the Bright and Morning Star, and that is a warning to all to straighten
 up and fly right, or they get the boot too..

 Still do not know whether earth is heaven or hell, or is it what we make
 it?

 I do know this - in Ethiopia and Angola and South Africa, life is
 hellwho murders and steals from Africa?   If people in Africa kept
 their own national resources - they would all be rich.?

 See murder in the Balkans?   See genocides and exterminations of a
 people for no reason other than greed or jealousy yet who fnances and
 has the gold to so do these wars/

 Christ fed the 5,000 did he not?

 So when I read the bible and your line reference returning home..I
 think of FDR, and how they played the NEW WORLD SYMPHONY, the beautiful
 but sald old song, Going Home.he went home to his father, as did JFK
 and RFK - timed to Master Plan for Murder keyed to Stars and
 Testaments

 When you see the Master Plan, so simple, right in the open but when you
 see the timetable and calendar/code you see the evil now in possession
 of the only book the Pilgrims had, when they set foot on the Rock upon
 which they buit their house.

 As was once said "Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of
 men"..look to Clinton, he symbolizes to me all that is evil, yet he
 appears to be the Angel of Light - perhaps the Illuminated one"

 For you see the Illuminati made their home in the Garden of Eden through
 their father.and that guy 

[CTRL] Fwd: THE DEVIL'S DICTIONARY INDEX PAGE THE DEVIL'S DICTIONARY - by - AMBROSE BIERCE (1881 - 1906)

[Aleisha Saba]

Anybody interested in Conspiracy Theories should have a copy of this
dictionary, if not just for fun - but this man, this Ambrose Bierce, was
a Rosicrucia, a great wit, worked for Rosicrucian Hearst - and was some
say involved in the murder of William McKinley based upon a little
quantrain he wrote prior to the assassination of this Scotch-Irish
President - boy those Scotch Irish - Kennedys, McKinley,
Reagan.always a bullet and do not forget out Scotsman George
Wallace

Anyway, Ambroke Bierce wrote this quantrain - the name Goebells, was as
I recall a Governor in Kentucky who had just been assassinated.   During
this time frame Hearst had hired hugs running his competition off the
streetsHearst also had Jean Dixon on payroll and if anyone remembers
this phone prophtess .well all in the family it would seem, for
Hearst above all knew the power of the pen and the sword.

He created the climate for murder and death - and a paid assassin would
fulfill the propheciesthis, is the power of the press - not happy
with trying to mold and form public opinion when the failedwell,
back to the drawing board - a word once spoken, a picture once implanted
in a mind -

By Ambrose Bierce, Hearst Agent and Propagandist

The Bullet that pierced Goebells breast;
Cannot be found, in all the west.

Good reason, it is speeding here;
To put McKinley, on the bier.

And it didthe bullet found its planned mark, the President of the
United States within a very short period of time.   Bierce it was
reported so much heat put on him, he took off to Mexico.

Oswald ran to a theatre...reminscent to Ford Theatre in which Booth
murdered Lincoln...for all the world is a state, and with the huge
hypnotic eye of the television today, we are the observers watching As
The Stomach Turns.

For today, as Shakespeare wrote All the World is a Stage, and what a
mess - its about time Clinton did his exit and take the whole UN bunch
with him - to darkest Africa.

So give the devil his dues; this Devil's Dictionary reeks of mind of
Benjamin Franklin, member of the Old Hells Fire Club and without a
doubt, Bierce had a link to that bunch.

Things change, secret societies do not.

A. Saba
Dare To Call It Conspiracy




A. Saba
Dare To Call It Conspiracy



http://americanliterature.com/DD/DDINDX.HTML

[CTRL] Trade experts quietly begin analysis of impacts of US embargo

[Kris Millegan]

from:
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u.a0747.asp
Click Here: A
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Trade experts quietly begin analysis of impacts of US embargo


July 17, 2000
By ANITA SNOW Associated Press Writer

HAVANA (AP) - Two trade experts hired by the American government have quietly
arrived here for fact-finding portion of the first U.S. investigation into
the effects of the 38-year-old embargo against Cuba, a U.S. source confirmed
Monday.

The two economists arrived here on Sunday for a weeklong mission for the U.S.
International Trade Commission, an independent federal agency, said the
source, speaking on customary condition of anonymity.

The pair was to meet with Cuban officials and foreigners doing business here
to put together a report for the U.S. Congress, the source said. The
economists were not immediately available for comment.

The visit is part of a larger investigation that the ITC announced in April
at the request of the House Ways and Means Committee.

The investigation will analyze the historical impact of U.S. sanctions on
both the U.S. and Cuban economies, especially on affected sectors, and on
U.S. exports, imports, employment, consumers, and investment, the ITC said at
the time.

A public hearing on the study will be held in Washington in September, and
the ITC will submit its report to the committee by Feb. 15, 2001.

The mission began as three U.S. senators who favor a lifting of the embargo
wrapped up a weekend trip to the communist island.

Sens. Max Baucus of Montana and Daniel Akaka of Hawaii, both Democrats, and
Sen. Pat Roberts, a Republican from Kansas, are among a growing number of
American lawmakers who support at least a partial lifting of the sanctions.

The House last month approved a $75.3 billion spending bill for farm programs
and food regulation after dropping a provision that would remove restrictions
on American food and medicine sales to Cuba. But House Republican leaders
have agreed to try to put a more restricted version in the final version of
the legislation later this year.

American opponents of the embargo say it has failed their aim of forcing
Castro to create a more open society. Supporters of the sanctions say they
are necessary to punish Castro's government.

Copyright 2000 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not
be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
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[CTRL] Freedom, Feminism, and the State

[Kris Millegan]

from:
http://www.independent.org/tii/content/briefs/b_feminis.html
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BOOK SUMMARY


FREEDOM, FEMINISM, AND THE STATE


Revised Edition


Edited by WENDY McELROY
Foreword by LEWIS PERRY



HIGHLIGHTS:
1. The dominant goal of what is called feminism today may be social and
economic equality at the expense of individual freedom. The
nineteenth-century founders of the women's movement, however, were
individualists to the core and wanted instead to achieve legal equality for
women, i.e., equal rights to life, liberty, and property.

2. The American women's movement emerged from of the crusade against slavery.
"We have good cause to be grateful to the slave," proclaimed Abbie Kelley, an
early feminist. "In trying to strike his irons off, we found most surely that
we were manacled ourselves."

3. After the Civil War, while mainstream feminists devoted all their efforts
to gaining the vote, individualist feminists were being jailed for defying
laws that restricted the dissemination of birth control information or
required marriages to conform to government regulations. Sixteen-year old
Lillian Harman, for instance, was jailed for six months for a non-church
marriage. "I consider uniformity in mode of sexual relations as undesirable
and impractical as enforced uniformity in anything else," she proclaimed.

4. No economic system has done more for the advancement of women than the
unregulated free market. It is only capitalist societies that have freed
women from the drudgery and degradation of their traditional status. Nothing
opened more economic opportunity for women than the general prosperity and
abundance generated by the Industrial Revolution.

5. Individualist feminists oppose special protective legislation, which
regulate the hours and conditions under which women work. Such class
legislation has done more harm than good to the cause of women's rights.
Interfering with a woman's freedom of contract, these laws helped confine to
men highly skilled or supervisory jobs in manufacturing.

6. Medical licensing laws have effectively restricted women from becoming
physicians. No industrialized country has a lower percentage of woman doctors
than the United States, with only 7 percent. In 1910, before such laws became
extensive, about 50 percent of all babies in this country were delivered by
non-licensed female mid-wives.

7. Some individualist feminists carried their opposition to the State so far
that they even opposed women's suffrage. Viewing politics as merely the effort
 to use government to exploit others, Voltairine de Cleyre, for instance,
wrote: "A body of voters cannot give into your charge any rights but their
own. By no possible jugglery of logic can they delegate the exercise of any
function which they themselves do not control."

SYNOPSIS:
Mainstream feminism is nowadays intimately associated with demands for State
intervention, as attested by campaigns for government-funded abortion, for
laws mandating equal pay and outlawing sexual discrimination, for
taxpayer-financed day care, and for legal and economic privileges for
pregnant women. But feminism's roots are radically individualistic,
anti-political, and anti-State. Arising out of the pre-Civil War anti-slavery
movement, the early women's movement recognized clearly that government was
the real obstacle preventing women from achieving freedom and equal rights.
And despite the recent positions of many prominent feminists, today an
increasing number of individualist feminists have become consistent foes of
the State.

The Independent Institute's latest book, Freedom, Feminism, and the State: An
Overview of Individualist Feminism, unearths and revitalizes this forgotten
heritage, providing a basis for its modern resurgence. The volume is edited
by Wendy McElroy, Research Fellow at the Independent Institute and a
prominent individualist-feminist author and speaker. Noted historian Lewis
Perry of Indiana University provides the book's foreword.
McElroy brings together twenty-two selections from the individualist feminist
tradition, integrating them with a fine historical introduction. These
striking essays span the history of the women's movement. Some are
nineteenth-century classics from such early giants of individualist feminism
as Angelina and Sarah Grimké and Voltairine de Cleyre; others are penned by
well known figures of the early twentieth century, such as Suzanne LaFollete
and Emma Goldman; and still others are more modern writings from the likes of
Joan Kennedy Taylor, Barbara Ehrenreich, and Deirdre English. Overall they
offer the individualist perspective on nearly every feminist issue, from
birth control to war, from the family to the marketplace, and everything in
between.
No one will fully agree with every essay in this volume. The individualist
feminists are too diverse, too unique, too 

[CTRL] The Thought Police Killed My Friend: Peter McWilliams, 1950-2000

[Kris Millegan]

from:
http://www.zolatimes.com/V4.29/peter_mcwilliams.html
Click Here: A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V4.29/peter_mcwilliams.html"The
 Thought Police Killed My Friend: Peter McWi…/A
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The Thought Police Killed My Friend


Peter McWilliams, 1950-2000



by Sunni Maravillosa

They did it. The Thought Police have killed my friend. No, it wasn't a
shootout, nor a protracted, fiery siege on his publishing company, nor even a
drug raid gone bad... The specific details aren't really important; what
matters is that, after years of harassment, they've finally killed Peter
McWilliams.

The short version is that the Thought Police killed Peter in a slow, cruel
fashion, beginning in 1997 when he became a target because of his advocacy
for medicinal marijuana (MMJ). He had AIDS and cancer, and MMJ was the only
thing enabling him to keep his lifesaving medications—and much-needed
food—down. Despite the new laws making MMJ legal in California, the DEA
eventually arrested Peter on "federal charges" and jailed him without his
medications. As one of many onerous conditions for parole, they forbade him
from using MMJ, the only thing he and his doctor had found that kept his
extreme nausea in check.

In his typical inimitable style, Peter found a way to handle this challenge,
altering his daily routine drastically in order to try to keep his
medications in his system without using MMJ. He didn't share too many of the
gory details, other than to say that vomiting had become a way of life for
him. In the end, however, the routine wasn't enough, and on June 14 Peter
McWilliams died from choking on his own vomit.

It doesn't take a sophisticated logician to create a powerful argument
showing cause and effect here.

Peter chose not to use MMJ because of the conditions of his parole—both his
mother's and his brother's house were put up as property bail. That meant
that if he violated any of the conditions of his parole, those houses would
become the property of the government. In the pre-trial hearings, Judge
George King—an apt name—ruled that the defense could not mention Peter's
illnesses, the legality of MMJ in California, nor anything, seemingly, that
would give a jury a reason to return a "not guilty" verdict. As a result,
probably feeling he had no other practical choice, Peter pled guilty, in
hopes that his King George would show leniency in the sentencing. The judge
could sentence him to house arrest—really Peter's only chance to live.

Some choose to find fault with this decision, arguing that Peter took an
expedient course rather than the moral route of refusing to plead guilty.
Although one can characterize his decision as "caving in", I wonder how many
freedom-lovers would choose that route if it were their lives at stake. In
addition, McWilliams knew the health risks he was taking— having been denied
his medications for a while in jail had caused his health to suffer, and he
knew that would be an ongoing threat while not smoking MMJ. It was at that
point that he probably began to see the reality of the death trap set for
him, and knew what was in his future. Whatever one may think of Peter
McWilliams' decision to plead guilty to the charges he faced, he was a man
who understood freedom, who wrote passionately and beautifully about it, and
in my opinion tried his best to live consistently with his principles. There
aren't many like him, and he will be greatly missed.

This isn't a eulogy for Peter, however. I don't think I can properly write
such a piece, as my mind continually wanders from my friend's life and
contributions to freedom to the circumstances leading to his death. I think
Peter would understand that, though. He knew what he was fighting against,
and for, and to be remembered in the context of his cause would be valued by
him.
Peter McWilliams' death is a powerful reminder of why I value freedom, why I
have no faith in the system to fix itself with some help from "our side", and
why I speak out and take actions that are pro-freedom. This country, once the
land of the free, is now the land of the free-for-all by the state. My voice
isn't "represented" by sham elections that foist more shackles on the people.
My views aren't what's fed to the sheeple on the 6:00 snews, pre-masticated
and prettified to paint a politically correct picture of society. My life
isn't tied to those who would make slaves of us all simply to satisfy their
lust for power. A society that can look away while its government kills a man
for simply trying to live his life and keep his health is seriously ill
itself. As Peter did, we who recognize the ugly brutality of the tyranny in
the United States must take whatever steps we can to help others see it, to
resist it as much as we can, and to remember our fallen compatriots.

Peter had written many individuals, asking that they send polite requests to
Judge King to show leniency in sentencing McWilliams. Now that the thugs can
no longer hurt him, I recommend we take a slightly 

[CTRL] WORLD WAR THREE is upon us almost!

[Kris Millegan]

from:alt.conspiracy
As, always, Caveat Lector
Om
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Click Here: A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:628375"WORLD WAR THREE is
upon us almost!/A
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Subject: WORLD WAR THREE is upon us almost!
From: A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "[EMAIL PROTECTED] /A (Nancy
Luft)
Date: Tue, Jul 18, 2000 2:31 PM
Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

President Putin is kissing up to the Red Chinese in a huge way now.

What does that mean to YOU?

The Special Sputnik Forces of the Russian Military sent ESP, thoughts,
via their total mind controlling sputnik lasers to psychics like Edgar
Cayce, Nostradamus, etc., to total mind control them to predict that
World War Three would begin in the year 2000AD, ie., in the very
beginning of this millennium.  The Russians intentionally caused the
first two world wars and they make that old saying about bad things
happening in threes become a frequent reality so they shall cause three
world wars.

As Putin cements his ties to Red China you all can expect the Russians
to attack the USA in WORLD WAR THREE and bust their buns to get the USA
to unconditionally surrender to Russia.  Since Rockefellers' RIGHT WING
Rich Man's Mafia, aka The Conspiracy is standing in the way of the USA
unconditionally surrendering to Russia, you can expect the Russians to
use their sputnik lasers in the near future to kill them, all those in
their mafia who knew about those sputniks attacking the USA, all on
earth, prior to me informing people, plus the Russians will burn up all
their receivers that the mafia uses to listen in on the thoughts of
people that the Russians track with their mind reading sputnik lasers.
Odds are the Russians will also kill with their sputnik lasers all of
the extended families, posterity, loved ones, of those mentioned above
to make examples of them.

PREPARE!   Extra guns and ammo to supply to others who will need it
greatly to resist the Russian take over of the USA.  Store extra food,
medicines, etc., also.

For millenniums to date The Special Sputnik Forces of the Russian
Military ONLY practise SLAVERY of the entire human race by wiping out
democracy and using the rich as surrogates to enslave everyone for them.
They ONLY believe in SLAVERY!  The perverted the PEOPLE POWER
(democracy) of socialism and communism into SLAVERY by inventing the
concept of the Dictatorship of the Proletarian (Workers) and creating
Stalinism, Moaism, etc..

World War Three shall be about The Special Sputnik Forces of the Russian
Military getting rid of ALL of their surrogates they have used to
enslave the entire human race under, ie., Rockefellers' RIGHT WING Rich
Man's Mafia, the rich of this earth, the pope and all religious leaders
as the Russians created all of the religions of this earth with their
sputnik lasers, Moaism, etc., and enslaving the entire human race
directly under the Russians!   The Russians could have very easily used
their sputnik lasers to mess up the loved ones of Rockefellers' RIGHT
WING Rich Man's Mafia, aka The Conspiracy, to force them to accept a
treaty to end this bullshit, BUT the Russians do NOT want any treaty
with the USA, they want to rule the USA and all on this earth.

Oh, after the Russians use Red China to help them to defeat the USA,
Europe, etc., then the Russians will double cross the Chinese and
enslave the Chinese directly under the Russians, too!

PREPARE FOR WORLD WAR THREE IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE!

The Special Sputnik Forces of the Russian Military intentionally created
Rockefellers' RIGHT WING Rich Man's Mafia, aka The Conspiracy, to use to
defeat the USA, etc..  Nelson Rockefeller busted his buns to promote the
Nuke Race and Cold War, as David Rockefeller busted his buns to promote
the use to nuclear energy to have lots of radioactive crap to make nukes
with.  The lunatics did not realize the Russians zap with their sputnik
lasers all atom bombs that trigger all nukes to make them work until I
wrote to Reagan about that and he ran to Reykjavik to talk to Gorbachev
about total nuclear disarmament.  The Sputnik Military needed modern day
communications and transportation in place for the WWIII SHOWDOWN, so
they could rule the USA and all on earth.  Rockefeller's RIGHT WING Rich
Man's Mafia, aka The Conspiracy, gave the Russians time to build NUCLEAR
POWERED sputniks with gamma ray, x-ray, lasers that are today
COMPUTERIZED making it virtually impossible now for anyone to ever
defeat the Russians, that is why The Special Sputnik Forces of the
Russian Military intentionally created Rockefellers' RIGHT WING Rich
Man's Mafia, aka The Conspiracy.

Yup, thank of GREED of Rockefellers' RIGHT WING Rich Man's Mafia, aka
The Conspiracy, which motivated them, for DEFEATING THE USA and having
the USA ruled by RUSSIANS in the near future.

NEVER, EVER SURRENDER TO THE RUSSIANS!  The Special Sputnik Forces of
the Russian Military had Nostradamus predict Napoleon, Hitler, and
Rockefellers' RIGHT WING Rich Man's Mafia, then the Russians
intentionally created them 

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Fw: Prozac

[ThePiedPiper]

You say that your wife has had to use what seems to be an antidote to
her.
And that this antidote needs to be in different doeses for different
people
(different exposers) you did not say where you live or any other
contributing
factors.  This apparently is something that works for your family
and your situation and you are lucker than most that you have something
that
works.  Yet, for many others Prozac would be nothing more than a bandaid
that
would be like putting a blindfold on instead of something that allows
them to
ignore the poisoning that they are being subjected to.

With major cases of chemical poisoning
The default is the female and hormones in water and milk
as well as the ones used for growing meat animals are interfering
with fertility.  Homosexuals singled out as AIDs, but few
if any autoses are performed on male deaths.  How many males
have cancer of the postate gland that is interfering with their
natural hormones?  The criteria for AIDS is that you also have
a sexual desease - from what I understand a woman can have a
yeast infection from the simple combination of a tampon that has
a low dose of dioxons in it and having drank milk that has been
produced by injecting the cow with Monsanto's hormone where the
dairy man has had to use antibiotics.  If a chicken did they use
any of the 5+ antibiotics that are believed to just be some kind
of growth aid.  If a animal with hair did they dip the animal
so that it's immune system has had to combate pesticides as well?
Dioxion in the tampon, Antibiotics in the milk, hormones in the milk
and meat.

Plants take up what they are fed, minerals in water and other things.
When you spray a plant with pesticides the pesticides are sysematic
(systematic - all the way throught the plant) this means that they can
not be washed off.  It seems as if plants can be sprayed with
antibiotics,
MSG, pesticides, herbicides, and a host of other things.

Then you get into the chemicals that foods are processed with such as
nitrates,
food colors, MSG, sugar, and the list rolls on.

We dose ourselves with chemicals then live in a enviroment (house,
office)
Fomadahyde in furnature, drycleaning - embalming ourselves.
Pesticides and cleaning supplies.

It is being shown that these medications do not (always) break down in
the
body and are expressed in human waste products.  What one person can
handle
(because of the redundancy of the human body and brain) is detramental
to
our water.  A towns humans wastes processed to some extent and then
added
to where?  The run off from (non organic) animal operations, and from
fields
that have had chemicals sprayed on them.  There has to be some limit to
what
your wife takes - what limit is there to what we can put in the water as
a town
or city?

These chemicals can take up to 10 years to break down so the
accumalative effect
is being felt already.

ThePiedPiper 19July2000

Robert F. Tatman wrote:

 As I've said before on this list, Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, and the other SSRI
 antidepressants, ARE NOT PANACEAS.  Too often they are prescribed
 inappropriately, without concomitant counseling and with no ongoing
 monitoring.  Any psychoactive agent has to be titrated carefully to
 determine the proper level for each individual...and even whether that
 particular medication is itself correct for that particular person.

 When my wife was going through a major depression several years ago, the
 first medication her psychiatrist tried was Paxil.  That had absolutely no
 effect, so she was switched to Prozac.  THAT had no effect.  Many of her
 symptoms were related to obsessive-compulsive disorder, which among other
 things often involves thoughts that seem to race out of control, "forcing"
 the patient to engage in constant ritual behavior to control their thoughts.
 So the psychiatrist added haloperidol (Haldol) to the mix.  It slowed her
 down all right, but did not change the bizarre behavior, and we were finally
 forced to abandon the combination of medication, counseling, and behavioral
 therapy that we'd been trying, and hospitalize her for a month.  Once there,
 her behavior could be monitored and her medication adjusted, and she could
 be given intensive counseling.  Finally she managed to slow down enough to
 catch up with herself... That was six years ago.

 She has been on Prozac ever since, and she freely admits that she feels
 whole for the first time in her life.  Without Prozac, I honestly doubt that
 she would be alive.  But PLEASE note: she wound up on Prozac only after a
 lot of cautious experimentation to determine what would work with her.  And
 that's the key.  The problem is not with the SSRIs in themselves, but rather
 with the way in which they are administered and dispensed.

 - Original Message -
 From: "Kris Millegan" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 6:37 PM
 Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: Fw: Prozac

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 DECLARATION 

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Fw: Prozac

[ThePiedPiper]

[this is the spell checked version]

You say that your wife has had to use what seems to be an antidote to
her.
And that this antidote needs to be in different doses for different
people
(different exposures) you did not say where you live or any other
contributing
factors.  This apparently is something that works for your family
and your situation and you are luckier than most that you have something
that
works.  Yet, for many others Prozac would be nothing more than a band
aid that
would be like putting a blindfold on instead of something that allows
them to
ignore the poisoning that they are being subjected to.

With major cases of chemical poisoning
The default is the female and hormones in water and milk
as well as the ones used for growing meat animals are interfering
with fertility.  Homosexuals singled out as AIDs, but few
if any autopsies are performed on male deaths.  How many males
have cancer of the postate gland that is interfering with their
natural hormones?  The criteria for AIDS is that you also have
a sexual disease - from what I understand a woman can have a
yeast infection from the simple combination of a tampon that has
a low dose of dioxins in it and having drank milk that has been
produced by injecting the cow with Monsanto's hormone where the
dairy man has had to use antibiotics.  If a chicken did they use
any of the 5+ antibiotics that are believed to just be some kind
of growth aid.  If a animal with hair did they dip the animal
so that it's immune system has had to combat pesticides as well?
Dioxin in the tampon, Antibiotics in the milk, hormones in the milk
and meat.

Plants take up what they are fed, minerals in water and other things.
When you spray a plant with pesticides the pesticides are systematic
(systematic - all the way throughout the plant) this means that they can
not be washed off.  It seems as if plants can be sprayed with
antibiotics,
MSG, pesticides, herbicides, and a host of other things.

Then you get into the chemicals that foods are processed with such as
nitrates,
food colors, MSG, sugar, and the list rolls on.

We dose ourselves with chemicals then live in a environment (house,
office)
Formaldehyde in furniture, dry-cleaning - embalming ourselves.
Pesticides and cleaning supplies.

It is being shown that these medications do not (always) break down in
the
body and are expressed in human waste products.  What one person can
handle
(because of the redundancy of the human body and brain) is detrimental
to
our water.  A towns humans wastes processed to some extent and then
added
to where?  The run off from (non organic) animal operations, and from
fields
that have had chemicals sprayed on them.  There has to be some limit to
what
your wife takes - what limit is there to what we can put in the water as
a town
or city?

These chemicals can take up to 10 years to break down so the
accumulative effect
is being felt already.

ThePiedPiper 19July2000

Robert F. Tatman wrote:

 As I've said before on this list, Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, and the other SSRI
 antidepressants, ARE NOT PANACEAS.  Too often they are prescribed
 inappropriately, without concomitant counseling and with no ongoing
 monitoring.  Any psychoactive agent has to be titrated carefully to
 determine the proper level for each individual...and even whether that
 particular medication is itself correct for that particular person.

 When my wife was going through a major depression several years ago, the
 first medication her psychiatrist tried was Paxil.  That had absolutely no
 effect, so she was switched to Prozac.  THAT had no effect.  Many of her
 symptoms were related to obsessive-compulsive disorder, which among other
 things often involves thoughts that seem to race out of control, "forcing"
 the patient to engage in constant ritual behavior to control their thoughts.
 So the psychiatrist added haloperidol (Haldol) to the mix.  It slowed her
 down all right, but did not change the bizarre behavior, and we were finally
 forced to abandon the combination of medication, counseling, and behavioral
 therapy that we'd been trying, and hospitalize her for a month.  Once there,
 her behavior could be monitored and her medication adjusted, and she could
 be given intensive counseling.  Finally she managed to slow down enough to
 catch up with herself... That was six years ago.

 She has been on Prozac ever since, and she freely admits that she feels
 whole for the first time in her life.  Without Prozac, I honestly doubt that
 she would be alive.  But PLEASE note: she wound up on Prozac only after a
 lot of cautious experimentation to determine what would work with her.  And
 that's the key.  The problem is not with the SSRIs in themselves, but rather
 with the way in which they are administered and dispensed.

 - Original Message -
 From: "Kris Millegan" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 6:37 PM
 Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: Fw: Prozac

 attachment snipped

 A 

Re: [CTRL] HAARP - Fabricating God

[Eagle 1]

Aleisha Saba said,
 Tsadowq:   Hope I never have to pronouce your name here
Just for a reference... (not saying I agree or disagree with the content of
this site)
Here's a link for your researching efforts ...
http://home.fireplug.net/~rshand/reflections/messiah/messiah.html

eagle 1


 - Original Message -
 From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 8:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [CTRL] HAARP - Fabricating God


  Tsadowq:   Hope I never have to pronouce your name here.
 

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[CTRL] Alex Jones infiltrates the Bohemian Grove!

[Kris Millegan]

from:
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Click Here: A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:628367"Alex Jones
infiltrates the Bohemian Grove!/A
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In a daring bit of investigative journalism, Alex Jones has gone into
that elitist summer gathering with cameras and recorded all sorts of
disturbing behavior.  These are world shaping businessmen, politicians,
entertainers and other illuminati, dressing up like satanists and having
weird rituals.  They have had Presidents there!  These are the type of
people running the NWO.  This is amazing, the press has yet to comment
of course (many of the owners of the big media corps are members of the
Bohemian Club which holds these neo-pagan gatherings).   I'm not a
christian by any means yet I am disturbed by these insane people running
our lives!

Check out www.infowars.com for the latest, including video frames from
Alex's adventure at Bohemian Grove.

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[CTRL] Alex Jones Presents Infowars Home Page

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Your Host, Alex Jones, Who Infiltrated the Bohemian Grove, Becoming the First
Journalist to Capture and Expose Video of the Bizarre, Luciferian Ceremonies
That Have Been Taking Place There for Over 120 Years.

You have to see it to believe it. Here is a portion of the cover of the
Bohemian Grove "Cremation of Care" program we've enlarged for you after
finding this disturbing image of a skeleton frozen in a grimace of pain. More
photos added and additional hidden images revealed --

PLEASE CLICK HERE TO GO TO OUR DEVELOPING BOHEMIAN GROVE SECTION

PLEASE CLICK HERE FOR MORE ON ALEX JONESBombshell!

It's true -- Bohemian Grove is a giant Globalist occult retreat and meeting
house. Dressed in satanic garb male leaders from politics, big business, the
Arts and Academia engage in Faustian bedlam. Bizarre public mass urination,
mock human sacrifice -- Jones witnessed it all with his own eyes. He is the
first to make it in and have the video to prove it.

Check out the exclusive photos captured from video-- many more to be released
tomorrow.
Click Here to View Our Developing Bohemian Grove Section -- NEW PHOTOS POSTED
AND ONGOING POSTS!!!_BREAKING!!

Tune in to Alex Jones
to hear all the gory details.
Click here for information on how to listen
Also Available in the Bohemian Grove Section of Our Infolinks Page, Please
Follow the Links Below for More Shocking Information:
Annual Bohemian Grove Draws Bushes, Kissinger, Powell, Gingrich
From the Sacramento Bee (Published Aug. 2, 1999)
Inside Bohemian Grove: The Story People Magazine Won't Let You Read
Extra
Index of Bohemian Grove Reportage
Kerry Richardson

Bohemian Grove Photos 1
Kerry Richardson
Lawrence lunching with future president Eisenhower and past president Hoover
at Bohemian Grove, July 23, 1950.
Berkeley Lab
Breakfast at Owls Nest Camp, Bohemian Grove, July 23, 1967. Around the table,
left to right: Preston Hotchkis, California Governor Ronald W. Reagan, Harvey
Hancock (standing), Vice President Richard M. Nixon, Glenn Seaborg, Jack
Sparks, (unidentified individual), (unidentified individual), and Edwin
Pauley. Courtesy of Edward W. Carter (deceased).
Berkeley Lab

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U.S. Trade Gap Soars to New Record in May
Reuters
Russia-China Axis Threatens Arms Race
UPI
Russia and China: An Anti-American Alliance
NewsMax

China Cracks Down on Press, Internet Critics
NewsMax
Let the Land Grab Continue
Senate Rejects Limits on National Monuments
Pentagon Challenged On Anthrax Vaccine
"Anyone exposed to anthrax may become quite sick and be incapacitated for up
to two weeks, even if they have received the full set of six inoculations..."
Vince Foster Haunts Hillary?
Independent counsel trying to retrieve files
from late White House lawyer's hard drive
Disbar Clinton, Arkansans Say in Poll
NewsMax
Senate OKs End to 'Marriage Tax'
UPI
Book Burning 101
"It's remarkable that our colleges and universities, which are supposed to be
hotbeds of free expression, are often just the opposite..."
"Hip" New Girl Scout Image
Promotes Green Hair, Tattoos
"Some of the posters and brochures feature a girl with green hair, green eyes
and green nail polish. Others show a girl sporting a Girl Scout logo tattoo
on her shoulder..."
Boy Scouts Charter Repeal Urged
"Some Democratic lawmakers who support gay rights want Congress to repeal an
84-year-old honorary charter of the Boy Scouts because the organization has a
policy against gays..."
Sex Education for Thai Kindergarten Kids
eIndia

New Law Restricts Violent Video Games
AP

Pentagon Red-Faced over
Award to Security Company
"The Defense Department says it is embarrassed about having presented an
award for industrial security to a company that is being investigated for
giving a sensitive report on missile technology to the government of
China..."

Judge OKs Oakland Marijuana Club
San Francisco Examiner

Anthrax Vaccine Maker Faltering
Hartford Courant

Court Rules against Student's Web Site
Philadelphia Daily News

Schoolgirls Face Ban on
Miniskirts 'to Halt HIV'
"The AIDS-ravaged kingdom of Swaziland is planning unorthodox measures to
prevent the spread of the disease, including a ban on schoolgirls wearing
miniskirts and the possible sterilisation of people infected with HIV..."
Farrakahan: Confederate Flag
Part of South's History
AP
Ex-Clinton Aide: She Said It
and She Knows It
Fox News.com
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[CTRL] Infowars Exclusive --Bohemian Grove Exposed!

[Kris Millegan]

from:
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Click Here: A HREF="http://www.infowars.com/bg1.html"Infowars Exclusive
--Bohemian Grove Exposed!/A
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BOHEMIAN GROVE SATANIC RITES EXPOSED -- INFOWARS.COM EXCLUSIVE!!

BREAKING STORY -- WATCH FOR FREQUENT UPDATES
Bohemian Grove Globalist Enclave Exposed as Luciferian Cult
-- "Alex Jones Has Blown Bohemian Grove Wide Open..." John Sergeant, World of
Wonder, UK Channel

Major media from CBS television, magazines like People and Spy have attempted
and failed to get the hard video evidence that Alex Jones and his team have
gotten out of Bohemain Grove.

Alex Jones: "This is like something out of a Hollywood movie, where teenagers
are out camping in the wilderness and come over a hill and witness some devil
cult in black and red garb sacrificing some poor soul on a bloody altar."
This just in: upon reviewing the program cover, Alex discovered the shocking
imbedded images of a skeleton frozen in a painful grimace ablaze on the owl
idol's altar. Also found hidden away in the cover: the image of a small demon
sweeping something up with a witch's broom.

Here is a scan of the cover, with the skeleton circled and an arrow pointing
to the demon.
Here is an enlargement of the program cover, showing clearly, the skeleton
frozen in a grimace of pain.

Here is an enlargement of the demon on the program cover.

PLEASE FOLLOW THE LINKS BELOW FOR MORE PHOTOS FROM INSIDE BOHEMIAN GROVE
CLICK HERE TO RETURN TO INFOWARS.COM'S HOME PAGE
CLICK HERE FOR INFORMATION ON HOW TO LISTEN TO ALEX JONES
BESIDES BOHEMIAN GROVE, ALEX JONES HAS EXPOSED THE DEVELOPMENT OF A
NIGHTMARISH POLICE STATE -- CLICK HERE TO CHECK OUT HIS FILMSBG 1   BG 2
BG 3BG 4BG 5BG 6BG 7BG 8HOME
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[CTRL] POLICE STATE II: THE TAKEOVER

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[CTRL] [2] Infowars Exclusive --Bohemian Grove Exposed!

[Kris Millegan]

from:
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--Bohemian Grove Exposed!/A
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Here they are -- globalist leaders from across North America and the rest of
the world. The black garbed boatman is delivering the effigy of a human being
to be burned at the feet of the tower 40-50' tall stone owl god.
Participants openly worship the owl and screamed for the burning death of the
human effigy. We hope it was only a dummy, as we were roughly 175 yards away
across the small body of water.
More -- please follow the links bellow.
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Photo of the end of the ceremony, to the right you see the owl god lit up and
its robe-clad worshipers.
Participants openly worshiped the owl. It appeared that low-level Acolytes
were dressed in black and red robes, with higher-level priests in
combinations of gold, silver and red.
=


Alex Jones: "This is like something out of a Hollywood movie, where teenagers
are out camping in the wilderness and come over a hill and witness some devil
cult in black and red garb sacrificing some poor soul on a bloody altar."
The photos you see are captured from digital video taken by Alex Jones inside
Bohemian Grove which will soon be available through infowars.com. Watch
infowars.com over the next few days for details in text and more photos.

The entrance to one of the "camp" areas. You can clearly see the skull and
the words - "Je Suis Lafitte." Lafitte was a French pirate.
=
Photo scan of a cocktail napkin from Bohemian Grove. References and images of
the owl are consistant throughout the grove, including on the vehicles that
transport people about the "camp, as shown below.

The owl worldwide has been used as a symbol of the god of death, misfortune
and human sacrifice. From Babylon to the ancient Druids the owl god has
tasted its share of human blood.

The high priest in silver and red robes repeatedly worshiped the owl, which
he said was a symbol of Babylon and Tyre.
=
Photo scan of the "program" of the "Cremation of Care." Notice the
ILLUMINATED OWL.
The owl worldwide has been used as a symbol of the god of death, misfortune
and human sacrifice. From Babylon to the ancient Druids the owl god has
tasted its share of human blood.

The small white drawing above the text, "Director: Craig Jones" depicts a
demond/devil with the initials PJ sweeping something up with a witch's broom.
=
Photo of the basic layout of the elitist cult compound.
Click photo to enlarge.
Here they are -- globalist leaders from across North America and the rest of
the world. The black garbed boatman is delivering the effigy of a human being
to be burned at the feet of the tower 40-50' tall stone owl god.
Participants openly worship the owl and screamed for the burning death of the
human effigy. We hope it was only a dummy, as we were roughly 175 yards away
across the small body of water.
-
Aloha, He'Ping,
Om, Shalom, Salaam.
Em Hotep, Peace Be,
All My Relations.
Omnia Bona Bonis,
Adieu, Adios, Aloha.
Amen.
Roads End

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Re: [CTRL] POLICE STATE II: THE TAKEOVER

[Tsadowq]

Hello everyone,

I checked out this site, and found the following page of interest...

A HREF="http://www.infowars.com/goodphotos.html"Photos from Alex' Jones'
Infowars.com/A
http://www.infowars.com/goodphotos.html

As CTRL list members may recall from last year, I also
reported this phenomena -- military choppers landing at
local parks and schools.

Funny, my pictures look hauntingly similar to
the pictures already on this site...Lots of people
there checking out the helicopter, lots of smiling
faces, etc...

With this evidently happening in more
than one state, I now know that I can
trust those smiling faced military men.

Tsadowq

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Re: [CTRL] HAARP - Fabricating God

[Aleisha Saba]

Thank you Eagle I - have a feeing though you do not agree with me or
rather the way in which I express myself, you do see, what I see.

Refer to the Devils Dictionary, letter "M".for this Bierce was
something else and he takes quite a few pokes at the masons.

But Bierce was like the old King in I Kings, who said "did I not tell
you he would prophecy no good to me - only evil".for propaganda
equates to prophecy.

Shades of Nostradamus and Jean Dixon and Tokyo Rose and Lord Haw
Haw..but, he who laughs last, laughed best.

So thank you Eagle I, or is it Brother HiRamGreat Eagle - Dougle
Beak?   Diamonds and the works?

Know anything about the masonic Kiss of Death?

Saba

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Re: [CTRL] HAARP - Fabricating God

[Eagle 1]

Yes, aleisha saba,  I know about all of it...
which do you wish to discuss?  Though I fail to see the relavency,
since no matter what I say,  or what anyone else says,  you have been
there and already done it all   You are a one-sided conversation piece.
Must be nice to have such a wealth of 'experience' under your belt.

By the way,  I'm no brother...

eagle 1


- Original Message -
From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] HAARP - Fabricating God


 Thank you Eagle I - have a feeing though you do not agree with me or
 rather the way in which I express myself, you do see, what I see.

 Refer to the Devils Dictionary, letter "M".for this Bierce was
 something else and he takes quite a few pokes at the masons.

 But Bierce was like the old King in I Kings, who said "did I not tell
 you he would prophecy no good to me - only evil".for propaganda
 equates to prophecy.

 Shades of Nostradamus and Jean Dixon and Tokyo Rose and Lord Haw
 Haw..but, he who laughs last, laughed best.

 So thank you Eagle I, or is it Brother HiRamGreat Eagle - Dougle
 Beak?   Diamonds and the works?

 Know anything about the masonic Kiss of Death?

 Saba

 A. Saba
 Dare To Call It Conspiracy


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[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] JUST SAY NO TO THE SKULL AND BONES CORONATION

[Kris Millegan]

The street demonstrations against the Shadow Conventions
should be larger that those against the Democratic National Convention and
when the media asks why, then the opening to bring the light of truth to the
public will become available.  David Crocket Williams

With strategy this brilliant I am tempted to come myself to LA and Philly to
help teach the art of street demonstrations.

In Philly the chant should be NO MORE --- SKULL  AND BONES, NO MORE --- SKULL
AND BONES to the old rhythm of HELL NO --- WE WON'T GO.  After all this chant
and rhythm is what drove Nixon insane.

Do you see that SKULL AND BONES John Karry is on the short list for Gore VPs and
Governor Frank Keating is at the top of the VP list for Bush?

Americans will never again have this much to protest.

Someone should start printing immediately JUST SAY NO TO THE SKULL AND BONES
CORONATION bumper stickers.  That should be the one statement of all counter
demonstrations in both La and Philly.

And since the SKULL AND BONES was once the New England opium cartel who happened
to be the ancestors of both George and Barbara Bush the CIA-DRUGS issue goes
with this other one like a horse and a carriage.

Make it simple make it work.  The message to the American people should be THE
SKULL AND BONES rigged this election a long time ago.  We should invalidate the
notion that the selection of Gore and Bush was the result of democratic process
when ever we can.  Gore has a few million.  Bush has hundreds of millions.
There is no contest.  Gore is a straw candidate making it look like the public
is making a choice.

Examples of a more fixed and phony election are rare.  One example that comes to
mind is when father Prescott Bush financed the campaign of George's
congressional opponent as well as his son's campaign.  It is what the Bush
family calls HAVING A FEW IRONS IN THE FIRE.  Al Gore is one of Bush's irons.
It is only necessary to examine Gore and his father's indentured servitude to
Armand Hammer and his oil interests and Bush and his oil interests, and do not
forget about the Rockefellers, and it is clear that Gore is only a minor player
on Bush's team.

Brian Quig











David Crockett Williams wrote:

 This past week more progress has been made in meaningful places within the
 "warring factions" of the anti-drugwar movement activists than at least all
 the rest of this year, and probably the last several years combined.

 For the first time on the net a heated honest debate is taking place between
 leaders of the "anti-prohibition faction" those who feel that the drug war
 and its fraudulent prohibition policies like those against relegalization of
 medical marijuana is a just a result of "failed government policies" (ie,
 the "demand side" issues of the drugwar) and those who feel that the drugwar
 is a result of such massive scale corruption that these prohibition laws are
 actually still in place by design and intent implemented by covert actions
 supported by US government intelligence and drug enforcement agencies to
 maintain the profitability of illegal drug smuggling whose laundered profits
 are the biggest source of fundraising for Wall Street low-cost laundered
 offshore capital propping up the stock market as well as huge amounts of
 funding for ALMOST ALL of the major political campaigns of both major
 parties who as corporate lackeys create the same prohibition laws to
 maintain the status quo.

 This internal struggle for the "right message" to bring to the public to end
 the drug war is coming to a showdown around the socalled Shadow Conventions,
 particularly in Los Angeles during the Democratic National Convention
 beginning in about four weeks from now.  The truth will prevail, have no
 doubts about that.

 I have received heated responses from some of the major activists among the
 anti-prohibition "camp" and though tempted to create a looong composite
 response addressing each point in each post, to save the readers this
 drudgery I will address here what seems to be the crux of the situation
 based on my own experience and evaluations and try to address briefly the
 essence.

 I encourage all who are involved in planning The Shadow Conventions to
 continue their efforts because this venue will help bring the truth to light
 since it will get some mainstream national media attention.  I ask only that
 the issue of CORRUPTION as it intertwines the three major areas of this
 convention's focus be carefully examined as the common thread between the
 drug war, poverty problems, and campaign finance reform which are the three
 catagories on the agenda.

 Also keep in mind that the Shadow Conventions were initiated by the darling
 of the Republican Party, Arianna Huffington, who if you ask her will tell
 you that she supports George W. Bush for US  President.  Keep in mind that
 this is the underlying reason for her initiation of these conventions.
 Since the expected attendance at these two conventions and the 

[CTRL] Drug Control or Biowarfare?

[Oscar]

Drug Control or Biowarfare?

The US is strong-arming Colombia into unleashing the latest weapon in the war on 
drugs: a powerful new herbicide. But along with killing coca plants, the toxic fungus 
may pose serious dangers to the environment and human health -- threats so compelling 
that Florida has suspended plans to test the fungus for its own anti-drug efforts.

See:
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Re: [CTRL] HAARP - Fabricating God

[Aleisha Saba]

Well Eagle I, you are right I have been there, and believe me, am lucky
to still me here - for as they say it was a lonely road in the 60 and 70
period to cry conspiracy and be labeled a coo coo bird.   That one that
flew over the cuckoo nest, was me.

And for now I am out of here - and the one line of Robert Owen that I
always liked -

All the world is queer save thee and me;
and sometimes I wonder, about thee.

So I no longer worry about great Eagle I.
This Condor passes.

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[CTRL] \'Boot Camp\' Draws Fire After Girl\'s Death

[Oscar]

forwarded message
Date: 17 Jul 2000 04:30:34 -0700
From: Martin Hirschfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 'Boot Camp' Draws Fire After Girl's Death-NPR

This is a link to an audio program about brutality
in South Dakota's juvenile law system.
==

'Boot Camp' Draws Fire After Girl's Death

Gina Score was 14 when she was sent to a new, military-style boot camp for
stealing money from other kids' lockers to buy candy. Less than a week
after she arrived at the South Dakota juvenile detention facility, she was
dead -- from exhaustion and heatstroke after trying to complete a forced
2.7-mile run in the midsummer heat for which she was physically unfit.
Critics say the military-style atmosphere encouraged excessive harshness
from guards, but backers find no fault with the philosophy behind such
camps. Score's death has meanwhile sparked several lawsuits and a fierce
debate over how the states should handle troubled youths.

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[CTRL] Fwd: FC: DVD trial in New York starts over Digital Millennium Copyright Act

[Kris Millegan]

So I've been in New York covering the DVD lawsuit filed by the movie
industry against 2600 magazine.

Some (unfortunately digital) photos of the hacker/Linux protests outside
the courthouse:
http://www.mccullagh.org/theme/dvd-2600-trial.html

And some participants, including 2600's Emmanuel Goldstein and cryptome's
John Young:
http://www.mccullagh.org/theme/2600.html

And, of course, Jon Johansen:
http://www.mccullagh.org/image/950-10/jon-johansen-3.html

On our way to dinner on Monday after the trial ended for the day we found a
healthy selection of pirated movies on VHS for $5 each on the street. It
was a nice irony -- Hollywood attacking DeCSS and ignoring the real
culprits outside:
http://www.mccullagh.org/image/950-10/emmanuel-goldstein-pirate.html

I bought the X-Men movie. The quality is acceptable; if the origin was a
video camera pointed at a movie theater screen, at least the pirate used a
tripod.

A few articles I've written about the trial:

http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,37647,00.html
Movie Studios on the Warpath
by Declan McCullagh
1:25 p.m. Jul. 18, 2000 PDT

http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,37615,00.html
DeCSS Lawyers Press MPAA
by Declan McCullagh
4:20 p.m. Jul. 17, 2000 PDT

-Declan

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[CTRL] Fwd: Cypress Hill Back Online With New Soldier Stories;...

[Kris Millegan]

Cypress Hill Back Online With New "Soldier Stories"; B-Real  Bobo Weigh In With 
Unexpurgated Road Diaries From Back 2 Basics Tour

NEW YORK--(ENTERTAINMENT WIRE)--July 19, 2000--Cypress Hill, the legendary 
progenitors of alterna-rap, are currently on the highway with Limp Bizkit on the Back 
2 Basics tour and hip-hop's most notorious road warriors are taking notes. In order to 
keep the record straight, B-Real and Bobo have resurrected the Cypress Hill "Soldier 
Stories": unvarnished and unexpurgated tales of life on the road available exclusively 
on the group's website (http://www.cypresshill.com). Updated daily during the tour, 
"Soldier Stories" are meaty dispatches from the frontlines of hip-hop consciousness, 
hardcore bulletins from the heart of the rock beast. The current "Soldier Stories" are 
the first since 1998's Smokin' Grooves and Japanese tour sagas.

The new "Solider Stories" is the latest addition to the newly-designed official 
Cypress Hill website. Opening with a dynamic Flash animated intro and soundclip of 
"Superstar," www.cypresshill.com is the ultimate gateway to all things Cypress 
including hot news updated in real time, video clips for "(Rock) Superstar"  "(Rap) 
Superstar," a Cypress Hill chat room and bulletin board, a Saturday night video clips 
program, lyrics, photos, links, and a whole lot more.

The group is currently riding the success of Skull  Bones, the latest in a series 
of platinum albums from Cypress Hill. Released on April 25, 2000, Skull  Bones 
debuted at #5 on the Billboard 200 and spent ten weeks in the Top 40 or better on the 
chart. The album was certified platinum by the RIAA as of June 28, 2000.

To date, Cypress Hill have received fifteen gold, platinum, and multi-platinum 
certifications from the RIAA: Cypress Hill (gold, 2x platinum), "Insane In The Brain" 
(gold), Black Sunday (gold, 3x platinum), III (Temples of Boom) (gold, platinum), IV 
(gold), Unreleased  Revamped (gold), Los Grandes Exitos En Espanol (gold), and Skull 
 Bones (gold, platinum). The group has sold more than 12 million records worldwide 
with over 7 million albums sold in the United States alone.

CONTACT:

For more information, please contact

Mark Ghuneim

Online  Emerging Technologies, Columbia Records, New York,

212-833-7382; email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cypress Hill online: http://www.cypresshill.com

Columbia Records online: http://www.columbiarecords.com

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[CTRL] Administration Announces New Encryption Regulations

[Oscar]

Administration Announces New Encryption Regulations

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Re: [CTRL] Bohemian Grove [Guerneville, California]

[Oscar]

On Wed, 19 Jul 2000 12:03:33 EDT Kris Millegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Here is a scan of the cover, with the skeleton circled and an arrow pointing
to the demon.

oh my god...get real will you?

i used to live near bohemian grove and what REALLY goes on there is something that 
needs to be exposed and you do immense disservice to that effort by creating this 
farcical smoke-screen...

i have known people that work that yearly gig...

the more shit like this that comes out the less anyone doing real investigative 
journalism there is going to be heard...

infowar indeed!

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Re: [CTRL] Bohemian Grove [Guerneville, California]

[Kris Millegan]

In a message dated 7/19/00 11:52:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

i used to live near bohemian grove and what REALLY goes on there is something
that needs to be exposed and you do immense disservice to that effort by
creating this farcical smoke-screen...

i have known people that work that yearly gig...

the more shit like this that comes out the less anyone doing real
investigative
journalism there is going to be heard...

infowar indeed!

Pray tell . . .

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[CTRL] testing

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[CTRL] A stealth attack on our privacy

[Oscar]

On Tue, 18 Jul 2000 22:17:57 -0500 (CDT) Grassroots Media Network 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.uniontrib.com/news/uniontrib/mon/opinion/news_1e17hentoff.htmlhttp://www.uniontrib.com/news/uniontrib/mon/opinion/news_1e17hentoff.html

NAT HENTOFF THE VILLAGE VOICE

A stealth attack on our privacy

July 17, 2000

First, there were the British officials who searched, whenever they chose,
the homes and businesses of the American colonists. The helpless fury these
searches caused led to our Fourth Amendment to the Bill of Rights. That
amendment requires that law-enforcement agents, to obtain a search warrant,
must show that there is probable cause that a crime has been or will be
committed. They must also list in the warrant the specific persons or
things to be searched.

Then the imperious J. Edgar Hoover authorized what were called "black-bag
jobs" -- secret, warrantless searches by FBI agents in the name of national
security. According to the Senate's Church Committee report, there were
hundreds of "black-bag jobs."

Now, Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah, or his staff, has slipped into a
methamphetamine bill -- which passed the Senate on Nov. 19, 1999, by
unanimous consent -- a provision that brutally undercuts the privacy
protections of the Fourth Amendment. I've asked the staff members of the
few senators who support civil liberties whether those senators knew what
they were voting on, and I'm told that it went right by them -- except for
Sen. Patrick Leahy of Vermont.

Hatch's provision would allow federal law-enforcement agents to search your
office, home or apartment while you're away, seize or copy things, and not
tell you what they've taken for 90 days. Indeed, they could ask a judge to
extend the period during which you're not notified for many more days.

You would only find out what they've taken or copied if they decide to
prosecute you. The way the provision is worded tells you how sneaky it is.
It's called "Notice Clarification." The clarification is that the raid is
secret, carried out while you're away, and you don't get any notice of it
until 90 days or more later.

There's more. If the federal agents take something that is "intangible,"
they don't even have to inform you about what they have seized. For
instance, they can read what is on your computer screen and copy it. That's
"intangible" material.

What happens if they make a copy of the hard drive of your computer?
Georgetown University law professor Paul Rothstein tells Lawyers
Weekly  that "that's also probably intangible."

In the first wiretapping case before the Supreme Court -- Olmstead vs.
United States (1928) -- Justice Louis Brandeis warned ominously that the
day would come when the government would be able to know what's in your
private papers without your knowing that they'd found them.

As Jim Dempsey -- a privacy expert for the Center for Democracy and
Technology -- points out, under this provision, "in the age of computers,
it is possible for the government to copy a great deal of sensitive
evidence without disturbing anything and without the subject knowing."

This subversion of the Framers' clear and original intention in the Fourth
Amendment will make life easier for government prosecutors. As Professor
Paul Rothstein notes, "You may not find out until right at the time of
trial about evidence, and that puts a defense lawyer at a disadvantage."

I am told that the president and the Justice Department support this
assault on the Constitution, but the Department says it has reached no
decision yet. In any case, defense attorney Stephen Glassroth notes, "Those
behind the provision are trying to get in the back door something they
couldn't get in the front."

The "Notice Clarification" provision has not yet passed the House. As of
this writing, it's still before the Judiciary Committee chaired by Henry
Hyde of Illinois. Bob Barr of Georgia -- the most vigilant defender of
privacy in Congress -- is trying to get it killed.

But even if the House does not approve this provision, Hatch or another
member of the Senate can slip it into an omnibus Senate-House conference
report on appropriations bills for multiple federal agencies. Because a
conference report is an agreement between the two chambers, it cannot be
amended on the floor of the House or the Senate.

Bob Barr, Rachel King (of the American Civil Liberties Union) and other
protectors of the Fourth Amendment are watching very closely to detect any
attempt to sneak this provision into a final bill that the president - who
is so often in contempt of the Constitution - may sign.

Benjamin Franklin said, "Those who can give up essential liberty to obtain
a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Tell that to
your representatives and senators before it's too late.


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[CTRL] Giuliani Sprays NYC Again-by R Lederman

[Oscar]

On Tue, 18 Jul 2000 22:36:06 -0500 (CDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Giuliani Says, Let The Poison Spraying Begin!
Biowarfare 2000-NYC-West Nile Virus
By Robert Lederman

Not content to have given himself and NYPD Commissioner
Safir prostate cancer from repeated doses of Malathion, Rudy
Giuliani, aka the Manhattan Mengele, has announced round two
in his biowarfare/eugenics experiment involving 8 million men,
women and children considered expendable now that he is not
running for office. Pesticide spraying will begin on 7/19.

Once again we are going to be covered with toxic insecticides
known to cause short term health effects, long term chronic
disease and massive environmental destruction in order to fight a
virus that:
1. the NYC Department of Health and the CDC admits is usually
not dangerous and is very rarely fatal
2. may not exist in NYC outside of government laboratories
3. is likely to be a genetically-altered strain created by the U.S.
Army bio-warfare lab at Ft. Dietrick Md. in 1996
4. was being experimented with at the Plum Island Animal
disease/bio-warfare lab off Long Island, Rockefeller University
in Manhattan and Sloan-Kettering Hospital for years before the
1999 so-called epidemic.
5. cannot be confirmed to have killed a single person in NYC
during 1999

Because anti-spray activists-whom the Mayor called
environmental terrorists-were successful last year in exposing the
Giuliani administrations indefensible use of the bio-warfare
agent Malathion, we will be exposed this year to a cocktail of
three other toxic insecticides. Once again the Mayor, his puppet
health commissioner, Psychiatrist Dr. Neal Cohen, and their
CDC, EPA overbosses are lying to the media and the public
about the negative health effects associated with exposure to
these chemicals.

At least this time the media is prefacing their hyped-up National
Enquirer type reports on the DEADLY VIRUS with the
admission that West Nile Virus is actually a mild and very rarely
fatal disease which the vast majority of those infected will
recover from with no symptoms whatsoever. Then why are they
spraying??? Unfortunately, the public will again be left to do its
own research to find any detailed facts. Here is a preview of what
anyone who invests even an hour on the Internet will discover.

If you want to protect yourself from mosquitoes generally there is
an effective, totally safe and health-enhancing way to do so. Eat
at least one clove of raw garlic each day and smear a bit of raw
garlic on your skin or clothing before going outside. Cooked,
pickled or otherwise processed garlic will not give you any
protection. The garlic will also significantly enhance your
immune system, improve your sex life and keep vampires like the
Mayor at a distance.

Avoid ANY exposure to the spray. Especially avoid letting
children, pets, the elderly or anyone with asthma or other
immune diseases be exposed. Wash or throw away your
airconditioner filter after spraying otherwise you will be
re-exposing yourself.

From: ANVIL LABEL
http://www.dec.state.ny.us/website/dshm/pesticid/anvil.gif
Harmful if absorbed through the skin. Do not induce vomiting
because of aspiration pneumonia hazard. Avoid contact with
skin, eyes or clothing. Do not apply directly to water, or to areas
where surface water is present. It is a violation of Federal law to
use this product in a manner inconsistent with its labeling.

Daily News 718/2000
"It will be done in a very, very careful way, but it's absolutely
necessary that we do this," Mayor Giuliani said yesterday at a
news conference on Staten Island. "Don't panic. This does not
mean that there's an outbreak, but it does mean that there's some
serious action that we have to take in order to avoid it spreading
any further," the mayor said...Health Commissioner Neal Cohen
said the city will spray Anvil, a pyrethroid-based pesticide with
the active ingredient Sumithrin. For the time being, Anvil will be
sprayed from trucks, not helicoptersThe mosquitoes that
showed evidence of the virus in Westchester included a
previously unknown carrier, Aedes japonicus, an Asian mosquito
believed to have found its way to the United States in tire
shipments. Unlike the mosquito most associated with West Nile
— the night-feeding Culex pipiens — the Asian mosquito bites
around the clock. Its role in transmitting the virus is unknown at
this time, officials said.

Rockland Journal News 7/17/2000
Lauri Evans, director of the Westchester chapter of Seeking
Alternatives For the Environment, or SAFE, and a member of
Westchester For Alternatives to Pesticides, thinks Anvil is far
more trouble than its worth. "The spraying is ineffective and
counterproductive because those most at risk for West Nile -- the
elderly -- are also most at risk for adverse reaction to the
chemical," the Katonah woman said. She also pointed out that
the spray reaches predators that normally help keep the mosquito
population at bay. Residents last year reported rashes, 

Re: [CTRL] thinking critically

[Tenorlove]

--- "Robert F. Tatman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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But the DELETE key is less work; if you REALLY want to be lazy just
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Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: $100 BILLION for Israel, Arab phony peace]

[Tenorlove]

--- Bob Stokes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You are right about one thing, we need to spend less on fancy
 military
 equipment such as the B-2 or B-1 bomber and more on real education
 ... I'm
 still waiting for that payback from being "at-peace."  It would save
 funds if
 we didn't have to pay federal taxes, then have to beg to get them
 back from
 the federal government for education.  Education should be habdled by
 States
 rather than the Fed.

Better yet, we should put control of education where it belongs, and
that is with the PARENTS of the children being educated. That means get
the government OUT of the education business. With the money not being
spent on government schools, parents can choose to send their children
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Re: [CTRL] thinking critically

[Robert F. Tatman]

Actually, Tenorlove, I already have blocked all three...Bard and Poley
before Kris booted them off the list.  It does make the list more useful, I
must say.

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[CTRL] Contre Globalisme

[Alamaine]

From www.wsws.org

WSWS : News  Analysis : Europe : France
French anti-globalisation protest calls for trade war measures against US
By Francis Dubois
19 July 2000
Back to screen version

At the end of June, tens of thousands of people gathered in the little town of
Millau, in Southern France, for a carnival-style event convened as a protest
against “trade globalisation, industrial farming and the power of multinational
world companies”.

The carnival was organised to coincide with the two-day trial of 11 members of
the “Confederation Paysanne”, a small farmers' trade union, who were involved
in the dismantling of a McDonald's restaurant in Millau in August last year.
Sheep farmer José Bové, a 47-year-old radical activist with a long history of
environmental protests, led the attack on McDonald's.

An estimated 30,000 people attended the protest; most of whom watched the trial
on a giant screen installed just 200 metres from the courtroom. A further
25,000 attended a free rock concert and “traditional French feast” later that
evening.

The carnival attracted international attention. Dubbed “Seattle-on-the-Tarn”,
in reference to the local river and the anti-globalisation protests at the
World Trade Organisation (WTO) conference last year, the trial and accompanying
demonstrations have been portrayed as a protest movement by France's “little
people” against the vast transnational corporations. Even if some of those
attending the event were genuinely opposed to capitalism, however, the
political perspective on which the protest was based led in an entirely
different direction.

The trial was depicted by much of the French and international media as a
modern-day version of the battle between David and Goliath. In one corner stood
the farmers, led by José Bové, representing all the victims of capitalism. In
the other corner was the prosecution, representing McDonald's and similar
global corporations. In court, defence lawyer Francois Roux pleaded, “Men are
fighting deadly injustices created by our society,” for which they should be
“honoured”.

Although the judge will not rule until September, it seems likely that the
farmers will receive only a token sentence. The prosecution has requested that
Bové receive a ten-month sentence, nine months suspended—despite previous
convictions against him for similar anti-corporate attacks—and a maximum
sentence of three months for the other defendants.

It is unusual for opponents of big business to be treated so gently. France's
leading politicians have also feted Bové. The self-styled peasant leader won
unofficial recognition from President Jacques Chirac, who went out of his way
to talk to him at the “Salon de l'agriculture” (an annual presentation of
agricultural products), and by Prime Minister Lionel Jospin, who invited him to
dinner. In September 1999, Chirac publicly endorsed Bové and spoke against
allowing “one single power” to “rule undivided over the planet's food
markets”—an obvious slap at the United States.

Bové's popularity in ruling circles is explained by the fact that his protests
are not directed against capitalism per se, but specifically against American
capitalism. By his own admission, the dismantling of the McDonald's restaurant
was prompted by the US government's decision to impose a 100 percent tax
increase on a group of French products in retaliation for the European Union's
ban on hormone-treated beef. One of the commodities subjected to this tax was
Roquefort cheese, which Bové's farm helps to produce. In the past Bové has led
actions to destroy genetically modified crops, something the French government
itself recently ordered.

For several years France has been the most aggressive opponent of the US within
Europe. In recent months, the trade war between Europe and America has
intensified sharply in the sphere of agriculture. The US is the biggest
exporter of food products worldwide and France is also a major exporter of
foodstuffs. The defence of French “quality food” against US “junk food”—the
slogan under which Bové's protest was organised—is in reality a defence of the
biggest French agricultural exporters against their US rivals on the world
market.

Bové's perspective is fundamentally the same as that advanced by the organisers
of protests in Washington, Davos and Geneva in recent months. The political
line of these demonstrations was also “anti-globalisation”. The organisers view
the problems facing millions of people around the world as the only possible
result of the integrated development of global trade and production, not the
specific outcome of globalisation under conditions of private ownership of the
means of production and the profit system.

Whilst attacking international organisations and bodies such as the WTO, the
World Bank and the transnational companies, the protest leaders advance a
perspective to defend the capitalist nation state.

The social class on which Bové has built his anti-globalisation protests is not
the 

[CTRL] Fwd: Re: [CTRL] Facts and Statistics About Fags

[Aleisha Saba]

I am forwarded reproduction of June's comments to Sutherland who was
removed from list - Sutherland was further attacked as want Franklin
Wayne Pierce after removal.

Sneak attacks are the best kind are they not for nobody could retaliate.  

Am sending this material for the reason that thisi man states he has
censored my mail to list, but than there is no accounting for taste.

Do not include my name in any manner with this June, whoever and
whatever she is - my forte is conspiracy .. some people like
garbage.

Read this crap and you two "block" my mail?  Who you kidding?


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Re: [CTRL] Facts and Statistics About Fags
From: Ynr Chyldz Wyld
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Facts and Statistics About Fags
Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 06:16:31 -0700
From: "David Sutherland" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind:
it is abomination."

  -- Leviticus 18:22
I'm sure David is strictly adhering to each and every other prohibition
delineated in Leviticus, too...
a.. Fags live filthy, unhealty, dangerous, unhappy,
and in many cases, violent lives.
SOME 'fags' live 'filthy, unhealty [sic], dangerous, unhappy, and in
many cases, violent lives'...the same thing could be said of SOME
heterosexuals.
MOST 'fags' live lives as unobtrusive, unordinary, and no different than
most heterosexuals.
b.. Fags prey on children.
Bullshit.  Homosexuals are attracted to adults of the same sex.  Adults
who are attracted to children are pedophiles.  Two distinct
classifications.
Men who sexually prey on male children have as much to do with adult
male homosexuality as men who sexually prey on little girls have to do
with adult male heterosexuality.
Are you going to say that men who sexually abuse little girls are
equivalent to the whole adult male heterosexual population?
a.. Fags fellate almost 100% of their sexual contacts and
ingest semen from about half of those.
Tell me, what sexual activities are practiced by homosexuals that are
not also practiced by heterosexuals?
Perhaps David's partner(s) -- if he has ever had any -- refuse to
swallow...   ;-)
Are you as upset over heteros engaging in oral sex as you are male
homosexuals?  What about lesbians, who don't have that 'worry'?
Semen contains
virtually every germ carried in the blood stream,
Hmmm...if that's true, all women should insist their male partners wear
condoms...
Or better yet, never have sex with men at all.
Or best yet, all women should become lesbians, then they wouldn't have
to worry about the cesspool that is semen touching any portion of their
bodies...
b.. One study reports 70% of fags admitting to having
sex only one time with over 50% of their partners
And I could show you studies where over 70 percent of heterosexuals
reported that at least 50 percent of their sexual conduct was with 'one
night stands'...
Without being given the demographics of the study, such figures are
meaningless; only an idiot would presume to project it onto the
population at large.
c.. One study reports that the average fag has between 20 and 106
partners per year (6).
The study you mention is on the sexual transmission of hepatitis A.
Which implies that homosexual men who either were infected with
hepatitis A, or were known transmitters, were part of the study.
That is meaningless when considering the homosexual population at large,
the majority of whom do NOT have hepatitis A...
d.. Sperm readily penetrates the anal wall (which is
only one cell thick) and gains direct access to the blood
stream. This causes massive immunological damage to the
body's T- and B-cell defensive systems (14).
Again, are you as upset when heterosexual couples engage in the same
sexual activity?
Why don't we see posts from you decrying the potential health
adversities of women who engage in anal sex with their male partners?
f.. Around 67-80% of fags lick and/or insert their tongues
into the anuses of their partners
This is also not uncommon in heterosexual sex...
(g.. 33% of fags admit to fisting
Ditto.
h.. Urinating on each other ("golden showers")
Straights also engage in that activity...
and torture
Ditto.
j.. 12% of fags give/receive enemas as part of
sexual pleasure (4).
Ditto.
l.. Many fag sexual encounters occur while drunk,
high on drugs, or in an orgy setting (7).
Ditto.  You still haven't mentioned any activity that homosexuals engage
in that heterosexuals also don't engage in.
m.. Many fags don't pay heed to warnings of their
lifestyles:
Ditto for straights.
v.. Judge John Martaugh, chief magistrate of the
New York City Criminal Court has said, "Homosexuals
account for half the murders in large cities" (10).
Well, we are not given the context in which this judge made this
statement, nor we shown what statistics the judge may have used, or
perhaps the judge is just homophobic.
If the statement is true, one would presume the majority of victims are
themselves homosexual...in which case David should be glad that their

[CTRL] Fwd: UNDERNEWS Jul 19

[William Shannon]

UNDERNEWS
July 19, 2000
For more than 35 years,
Washington's most unofficial source

THE PROGRESSIVE REVIEW
Editor: Sam Smith
1312 18th St. NW #502, Washington DC 20036
202-835-0770 Fax: 835-0779
E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-

WORD

I was going to buy a copy of "The Power of Positive Thinking," and then I
thought: what the hell good would that do? -- Ronnie Shakes

MARGINS OF ERROR

The margin of error of journalists talking about political polls is far
greater than that of the pollsters themselves. For example, the sainted
Chris Matthews last night masticated at length on a poll that showed Bush
only 2 points ahead and what this turn of events might mean for the
election. There was one small problem: at the time, three other surveys were
showing Bush with margins of 5, 6, and 9 points, the last from the tracking
poll of Rasmussen Research, which did the best job in the primaries,
according to an exclusive Review analysis.

Conventional journalists make two big mistakes in reporting on polls: (1)
they sometimes report only the polls their employer has paid for or (2) they
treat each poll as a full story in itself independent of other available data.

The Review -- alone in the nation, so far as we know -- provides a running
average of major polls in key races. This procedure compensates for
different techniques used by pollsters. For example, Gallup -- which gave
Bush the two point lead -- pushes undecideds to select a candidate while
Rasmussen does not.

Using our five poll average, Bush is ahead of Gore by 5.6 points. Amazingly,
the average of all polls since April is 5.75. In short, based on available
surveys, nothing much has happened in the race between Gore and Bush.

Meanwhile, our latest projection gives Bush 135 more electoral votes than
Gore. In the Senate, it looks like the GOP and Democrats will each pick up
one seat and there are four GOP seats in doubt.

Most interesting poll of late: Bush has developed an 8-point lead in
Wisconsin after being virtually tied with Gore. Nader now scores 9 points in
the state.

GROWING GREEN

TPR has added to (and collated) a number of web pages on the history of the
American Green movement, producing a scrapbook of items written along the
way by your editor, one of the founders of the Association of State Green
Parties. (For the best comprehensive treatment of Green history get John
Rensenbrink's "Against All Odds")

Among the items of interest is a brief review of the proto-Green Provos, the
Dutch anarchists of the 1960s, who not only raised environmental issues,
but, in the words of High Times journalist Teun Voeten "set the stage for
the creation of the Merry Pranksters, Diggers, and Yippies. They were the
first to combine non-violence and absurd humor to create social change. They
created the first 'Happenings' and 'Be-Ins.' They were also the first to
actively campaign against marijuana prohibition. "

When Princess Beatrice announced plans to join a former member of Nazi
Youth, the Provos opened a bank account for an anti-wedding gift and started
a 'White Rumors' plan, encouraging such imagined threats as LSD being dumped
in the city water supply or the mass drugging of the royal horses. Then, a
few days before the wedding, the Provos simply disappeared in order to avoid
arrest. Responding to the White Rumors, however, the government had
stationed 25,000 troops along the parade route.

The Provos, foreshadowing problems that would face the German Greens, did
not handle well the transition from street theater to political success.
Writes Voeten, "A Provo Politburo emerged, consisting of VIP Provos who
began devoting most of themselves to political careers."

GROWING GREEN http://prorev.com/greengo.htm
HIGH TIMES ARTICLE ON THE PROVOS http://pdxnorml.org/HT_provos_0190.html
AGAINST ALL ODDS
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0966062914/progressiverevieA/

ECO NOTES

SPOKANE SPOKESMAN-REVIEW: Hordes of disease-bearing ticks. More shellfish
contamination. Frequent landslides and floods. Dirtier air, rising oceans
and severe summer droughts. Zeroing in on Washington state after a decade of
the hottest weather on record, the Nobel Prize-winning group Physicians for
Social Responsibility is warning about major public health consequences from
global warming over the next century . . .

The report warns of several problems, including:

• More turbulent weather.

Floods, droughts, storms and heat waves may increase deaths among children,
the poor and the elderly and cause economic dislocation . . .

• Rising seas may threaten fresh-water supplies and displace coastal residents.

The ocean near Seattle has been rising 8 inches per century and is likely to
rise another 19 inches by 2100 due to climate change, the report says.

• Deteriorating air. Ozone alerts, pollen and gaseous chemicals would
increase. The trend could be especially harmful to the 600,000
Washingtonians, including 150,000 children, who 

[CTRL] Book O' Da Month

[Alamaine]

From
http://www.infomagic.net/liberty/vs000718.htm

}}Begin

July 18, 2000


The Libertarian
by Vin Suprynowicz

Has your bookshelf been approved by the BATF?

  T he Bill of Rights has an integral structure, like a castle. Folks who
believe they can give up one of the first 10 amendments to the claim of
"compelling government interest" -- yet still keep the others intact -- are
like soldiers who fight to defend nine of a castle's gates while leaving the
tenth gate open and unguarded.

The ninth amendment, for instance, tells our government that the people retain
inalienable rights too numerous and obvious to enumerate. One of these is
clearly the right to manufacture, possess, and traffic in alcohol, tobacco, and
any other medicinal plant derivative we please, including opium, cocaine, and
Indian hemp.

We know this because our great-grandparents were free to do all these things
without any government interference from 1607 until 1916, and because a
specific constitutional amendment (the 18th) had to be enacted to ban a single
one of these drugs -- alcohol -- in 1919 (an amendment since wisely repealed.)
Since no parallel constitutional amendment has been ratified to allow the "War
on Drugs," all current drug laws violate the Ninth Amendment. Yet do we
jealously guard this medical liberty? No, the mass of modern Americans figure,
"What the heck, as long as they say it'll 'keep kids off drugs,' let them do
whatever's necessary."

As a result, we have subsequently lost most of the Fourth Amendment's
protections against unreasonable search and seizure, with random traffic stops
and police SWAT teams breaking down doors in the middle of the night becoming
routine features of our evening news. And as for the Fifth Amendment -- ever
tried to get "just compensation" for a truck full of government-seized drugs or
guns?

Likewise, most Americans today figure it's OK to let the government violate the
inconvenient Second Amendment, so long as we're promised that jailing or
killing gun owners and dealers for possessing a rifle with a bayonet lug might
"save the life of a single child." But were the Americans who thus ignored
Pastor Niemoller's advice prepared for this single open gate to subsequently
erode their First Amendment right to read any book or magazine they please?
Already, in the 1997 Viper Militia prosecution in Arizona, defendants were
charged with "conspiracy" to pass around books and magazines and show each
other videos that described how to build weapons.

Now, novelist and federally licensed machine gun collector John Ross, author of
the magnificent novel of the gun culture "Unintended Consequences" ($33
postpaid; 800-374-4049; P.O. Box 86, Lonedell, MO 63060) has apparently been
singled out for federal intimidation for writing a fictional novel in which
American gun owners finally get fed up and start offing their oppressors,
including characters clearly based on Janet Reno and gun-grabbing N.Y. Rep.
(now Sen.) Charles Schumer.

In a June 30 letter to BATF Director Bradley Buckles, writing on behalf of
Ross, attorney James H. Jeffries III of Greensboro, N.C. states:
"Mr. Ross is an investment broker and financial adviser with a respected
investment firm in St. Louis. He ... is the grandson of President Harry
Truman's press secretary, Charles Ross, and was himself the Democratic Party
candidate for the United States House of Representatives from the Second
District of Missouri in 1998. In short, Mr. Ross is an upstanding and
productive member of his community. ...

"Of central importance to the purpose of this letter is the fact that Mr. Ross
is also the author of 'Unintended Consequences,' a highly popular novel about
the trials and tribulations of legal gun owners and dealers in the United
States. Although the book is manifestly a work of fiction, it accurately
depicts documented historical events in the long and sordid history of
misconduct by personnel of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. ...
Because the book is highly critical of the Bureau, it appears that some in your
agency have undertaken to suppress it and to intimidate its author.

"For example, in 1997 the book's publisher became aware that individuals
purporting to be BATF agents had threatened vendors of the book in at least
three different states with 'problems' if they did not cease their sales of the
book. A full-page ad in Shotgun News offering a $10,000 reward for the identity
of these individuals put a stop to that particular business.

"Now we have learned that in late May of this year agents from your St. Louis
field office have engaged in an official effort to enlist Mrs. Ross, who is
amicably separated from her husband, as an informant against her husband. On or
about May 24, at about 7:30 a.m., two agents approached Mrs. Ross on the street
while she was walking her dog, identified themselves by displaying their BATF
credentials, and proceeded to inquire what she thought about her husband's
book. ... This contact 

Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: $100 BILLION for Israel, Arab phony peace]

[Nurev Ind Research]

Tenorlove wrote:

 --- Bob Stokes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  You are right about one thing, we need to spend less on fancy
  military
  equipment such as the B-2 or B-1 bomber and more on real education
  ... I'm
  still waiting for that payback from being "at-peace."  It would save
  funds if
  we didn't have to pay federal taxes, then have to beg to get them
  back from
  the federal government for education.  Education should be habdled by
  States
  rather than the Fed.

 Better yet, we should put control of education where it belongs, and
 that is with the PARENTS of the children being educated. That means get
 the government OUT of the education business. With the money not being
 spent on government schools, parents can choose to send their children
 to the school that best suits their children's needs, or buy the
 curriculum materials and educate their children themselves.

Typical Libertarian poopy doopy.
As if parents have the time , ability, or desire to teach their children
a school type curriculum.

Better yet, WE should decide ALL aspects of government spending. ALL.
Politicians can plan and make proposals, but not one cent gets allocated for
ANYTHING without public approval. This is not at all hard to do.

Joshua2

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[CTRL] Is he the Lindbergh baby?

[Kelly]

GO HERE - http://www.stlnet.com - Use the SEARCH facility and type in
Lindbergh for complete story

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Is he the Lindbergh baby?
By Mark J. Price
The Akron Beacon Journal

* A 68-year-old Ohio retiree who looks like the famed aviator wonders
about a great-aunt's allegation that his mother switched her sickly son
in 1932 for the child kidnapped in New Jersey. It's a far-fetched story
that won't die because of amazing circumstances.


Robert Dolfen's story is so fantastic that sometimes he doesn't seem to
believe it himself. But then he remembers the unusual circumstances, the
amazing coincidences and the unanswered questions, and he begins to
suspect that the improbable could be true.

The 68-year-old resident of Norton, Ohio, 15 miles southwest of Akron,
has always maintained silence about his family's secret. His friends
don't know. Nor do his neighbors. Nor do other retirees from PPG
Industries.

"You don't run around telling people 'I was the Lindbergh baby back in
1936,' " Dolfen explains.

Yes, the Lindbergh baby -- Charles Augustus Lindbergh Jr., the kidnapped
son of aviator Charles Lindbergh and author Anne Morrow Lindbergh.

History books record that the 20-month-old boy was stolen from his crib
March 1, 1932, from the second-story nursery of the Lindberghs' home
near Hopewell, N.J.

Although the Lindberghs paid a $50,000 ransom, the toddler's body was
found May 12 in a wooded area a few miles from the family home.

Or was it?

Great-aunt squawks

Some began to have doubts when 4-year-old Bobby Dolfen of Akron was
thrown into the international spotlight in January 1936.

Sheriff's deputies in Summit County, Ohio, and federal agents found
themselves investigating a wild rumor that Bobby was really the
Lindbergh boy. Bobby's great-aunt, then 60 and living in Barberton, next
door to Norton, told authorities that the boy's mother, Glendora "Dorry"
Dolfen, was involved in a 1932 conspiracy to substitute her sickly son
for the Lindberghs' son.

Dorry Dolfen was unable to defend herself from the claim. She had died
in December 1934 of complications from childbirth.

Officers scoffed at the allegation but dutifully checked it out. When
witnesses began to corroborate the far-fetched tale, the story took on a
life of its own.

Bobby was living with his aunt and uncle, Thelma and Clifford Miller,
when a caravan of deputies, newspaper reporters and photographers
arrived unannounced at their home on Oakwood Drive in Ellet, a few miles
southeast of Akron.

"I can remember when the detectives come (sic) up . . . guys in suits
and topcoats," Dolfen says. "I was out in the back playing."

Officers did a double take when they spotted Bobby. He fit the Lindbergh
boy's description: blue eyes, curly blond hair, dimpled chin.

In a bizarre coincidence, the boy was wearing an aviator's helmet and
goggles -- just like Charles Lindbergh wore on his solo flight across
the Atlantic in May 1927.

"There was a guy with a big camera come around there and he took a big
flash," Dolfen recalls. "Well, that scares the hell out of you when you
see a big flash in the daylight. I didn't know what was going on.

"My aunt come out and asked them what was going on and then she took me
in the house."

Akron's media circus had begun.

Local newspapers published photos and articles about "Lindy's double."
The news spread to the Associated Press and United Press, which
transmitted stories around the world.

"The pictures of this Ohio youngster, Robert Dolfen, so resemble Mr. and
Mrs. Lindbergh that I honestly believe the boy is the Lindbergh baby,"
Chicago housewife Marie A. Marten wrote to President Franklin D.
Roosevelt and his wife, Eleanor, after seeing a Chicago newspaper
article. "The lips, the mouth, the nose, the shape of the cheek and the
chin ... I think that child should be investigated further."

Reporters camped out at the tiny home in Ellet.

"They stayed there day and night," Dolfen says. "They kept walking
around the house, trying to get a peek in there and take more pictures."

Aunt Thelma told the officers that there had been a mistake: The boy was
her nephew Bobby, not the Lindbergh baby. She stayed awake at night with
a shotgun in her lap, fearing that someone might try to break in and
kidnap the boy.

"There probably is only one chance in a million that Robert Dolfen might
be the missing Lindbergh baby," Sheriff James Flower told the Akron
Times-Press. "But that one chance must be checked out."

Bobby was taken to the Akron police station to have ink fingerprints and
footprints made. When he took off his shoes, it was noted that he had an
overlapping toe on his right foot - just as the Lindbergh baby had.

"I gave 'em hell when they got my feet all dirty with those footprints,"
Dolfen says. "It took awhile to come off. They took 

[CTRL] Christopher Hitchens- If Not Now...

[William Shannon]

There are a number of persuasive reasons to cast a vote for Ralph Nader in
the fall, and a number of unpersuasive reasons, too. But the principal
argument in favor is this: On the 22nd of May last, Nader said without
equivocation that if he had been a Congressman he would have voted to impeach
Clinton and that if he had been a Senator he would have voted to convict him.

The argument that "they all do it" has, paradoxically, become an argument
with which the Washington permanent government actually justifies itself. It
used to be a Nixonian gambit, and it evolved easily into a Clintonian one.
But you have not broken intellectually with the consensus unless you view the
phrase "they all do it" as part of the case for the prosecution, not the
defense.

This sets Nader apart from most of those liberals who only affect to despise
or oppose the "bipartisan" monopoly. Faced with the question, How corrupt and
lawless can a man be and still be President, the bulk of the American left
(which, to put it coarsely, is as much as to say the bulk of a rump)
answered, Easy. He can be as corrupt and lawless as he likes, as long as he's
a Democrat. After all, aren't his foes Republicans? Aren't they partisan?
This riposte, insofar as it deserves the name, is one of those beliefs that
are only true for as long as the speaker is stubborn enough to persist at
them. It's not unlike saying that a vote for a third party is a wasted vote.
Self-evidently, if more Democrats had denounced Clinton's abuses of power,
the honor of holding this position would not have accrued so exclusively to
Republicans. By a somewhat longer chain of reasoning, if all those who wanted
political pluralism and a multiparty system were prepared to waste their
franchise by voting in favor of it, their franchise would turn out not to be
so wasted. Admittedly, both propositions are quixotic to begin with, but they
do not express the obvious fallacy or tautology of the opposed positions, and
they do not depend on having other people determine your thinking for you.

I had the slight distinction of being the speaker at the defeat celebrations
of the Green Party in Washington, DC, on election night 1996, and I probably
looked as much of a fool as I felt. For one thing, I am not a member or
supporter of the Green Party. (If you care to know my politics, I am an old
socialist who is living fascinatedly through a period when only capitalism
seems to be revolutionary.) For another, I had been awfully disappointed at
the apparent vanity and futility of Ralph's campaign. Nineteen ninety-six was
the year in which it became clear to literally millions of people that an
election could be bought, party conventions could be rigged, media coverage
could be arranged and presidential "debates" could be fixed. Yet those
willing to work and argue for at least a protest against this--and there are
times when even a protest is better than nothing--had been let down by a
manneristic, even eccentric noncampaign.

It feels very slightly different this time. For one thing, the Democratic
Party is not so much dead as actually, visibly, palpably rotting on the slab.
The only breath of dissent in the bought-up and closed-out "primary season,"
where almost nobody got a chance to vote, was supplied by a reactionary
crowd-pleaser from Arizona who's had it with the campaign finance racket.
Meanwhile, I suppose it's possible to use the threat of Christian fascism one
more time to terrify the liberals, but it's pretty obvious that Governor Bush
is not a hostage to his party's Jurassic wing. Sinister little mediocrity he
may be, but who's seriously frightened of him? He's smoothly domesticated by
the old moneyed establishment, just like his rival, and it's actually quite
hard to picture him using cruise missiles out of personal and sexual pique,
as Clinton really did do twice.

And it seems that Ralph Nader is taking the moment seriously. All the
questions he is asked by the media pack have been scripted by the Democratic
National Committee. "Aren't you a spoiler?" "Isn't a vote for you a wasted
vote?" "What about the lesser of two evils?" And to these he has
replied--with enough confidence to deter too much repetition--what's to
spoil? His emphasis has been more and more on the open theft of the
democratic process, on the importance of having or being able to have an
election at all. His critics in the Gore camp are now so degenerated that
they don't mind saying a rigged and bought election is fine if only their
side wins it. Their objection to Nader's running is not merely an objection
to his program, but--keep your eye on this point--to the fact of his daring
to run at all. Even the Mexican system has more capacity for shame than that.

Now I know that many of you are sincerely, gravely, brow-furrowingly worried
about which future monarch gets to appoint which future Justice. But why not
admit it? You don't really know, and you won't really be asked, who will fill
the next Supreme Court 

Re: [CTRL] Freedom, Feminism, and the State

[nessie]

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
4. No economic system has done more for the advancement of women than the
unregulated free market. It is only capitalist societies that have freed
women from the drudgery and degradation of their traditional status.
Nothing opened more economic opportunity for women than the general
prosperity and abundance generated by the Industrial Revolution.

To put it politely: these are, at best,  unsubstantiated allegations.


7. Some individualist feminists carried their opposition to the State so
far

that they even opposed women's suffrage. Viewing politics as merely the
effort

 to use government to exploit others, Voltairine de Cleyre, for instance,

wrote: "A body of voters cannot give into your charge any rights but their

own. By no possible jugglery of logic can they delegate the exercise of
any

function which they themselves do not control."


To use the legacy of Voltairine de Cleyre  to promote market capitalism is
highly disengenuous. She was class conscious and worked for the overthrow
of capitalism and the state. True, she was influenced by Tucker and the
individualists early in her political development. She was drawn to the
anti-authoritarianism and strong emphasis on personal liberty. She
contributed articles to Liberty and other publications of individualists.
But she soon became critical of their acceptance of private property and
their lack of class consciousness.

Read more at:

 http://www.infoshop.org/texts/voltairine_APT.html

If you want to see a picture  of Voltairine, visit:

 http://www.anarres.org.au/bt_mural.htm

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Re: [CTRL] The Hate Crime Double-Standard

[Tenorlove]

--- MICHAEL SPITZER [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 CommentMax

 The Hate Crime Double-Standard

 Paul Weyrich July 18, 2000

 The Senate has passed a so-called hate crimes bill which, should
 it become law, endangers the liberties of all who are not part of
 a protected class.  In fact, the legislation, pushed by Senators
 Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts, a Democrat, and Republican Gordon
 Smith of Oregon, so expands the number of protected classes in
 this country that the only group not now covered is white males
 who are not handicapped.

I suppose, as a woman, I'm supposed to be exultant.. but as a
mother to 2 unprotected white males who are not handicapped, I'm
appalled. and very scared for their future.

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[CTRL] Real Democracy (was: Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: $100 BILLION for Israel, Arab phony peace])

[Robert F. Tatman]

Joshua is absolutely right.  With near-universal access to the Internet, for
the first time in our nation's history genuine *full* democracy, really
participatory democracy, becomes possible.  And don't give me any bullshit
about the "digital divide"...anyone who wants to can find a PC linked to the
Internet, whether in a cybercafe or in a public library or school.  Another
idea: include an earmarking section on the Form 1040, so that taxpayers can
stipulate what their tax dollars are going to go for.  Or perhaps make that
a preferential poll to set spending priorities for the coming fiscal year.
There a LOT of creative ideas floating around that have never been
implemented.  Require that all legislation be approved by a two-thirds
majority, but repeal is possible by a one-third vote--if thirty-three
percent of the people's elected representatives are unhappy with a given
law, it doesn't deserve to be a law.  (That's from Heinlein's *The Moon Is A
Harsh Mistress*, which you ought to read if you haven't already.)  Another
idea is to have one chamber to enact laws, and another chamber whose sole
responsibility is to repeal laws.  Perhaps legislators should have to
*personally* solicit the signatures of a majority of the voters they want to
represent in order to assume office.  Perhaps...  Well, what other nifty
notions can folks come up with?

- Original Message -
From: "Nurev Ind Research" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: $100 BILLION for Israel, Arab phony "peace"]


 Tenorlove wrote:
 
  --- Bob Stokes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   You are right about one thing, we need to spend less on fancy
   military
   equipment such as the B-2 or B-1 bomber and more on real education
   ... I'm
   still waiting for that payback from being "at-peace."  It would save
   funds if
   we didn't have to pay federal taxes, then have to beg to get them
   back from
   the federal government for education.  Education should be habdled by
   States
   rather than the Fed.
 
  Better yet, we should put control of education where it belongs, and
  that is with the PARENTS of the children being educated. That means get
  the government OUT of the education business. With the money not being
  spent on government schools, parents can choose to send their children
  to the school that best suits their children's needs, or buy the
  curriculum materials and educate their children themselves.

 Typical Libertarian poopy doopy.
 As if parents have the time , ability, or desire to teach their children
 a school type curriculum.

 Better yet, WE should decide ALL aspects of government spending. ALL.
 Politicians can plan and make proposals, but not one cent gets allocated
for
 ANYTHING without public approval. This is not at all hard to do.

 Joshua2


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Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: $100 BILLION for Israel, Arab phony peace]

[Bob Stokes]

In a message dated 00-07-19 18:50:51 EDT, Joshua2 writes:

 Typical Libertarian poopy doopy.
 As if parents have the time , ability, or desire to teach their children
 a school type curriculum.

More parents might have the time if both of them didn't have to work to make
ends meet.  Thanks to exorbitant taxes and low pay from most corporations.

 Better yet, WE should decide ALL aspects of government spending. ALL.
 Politicians can plan and make proposals, but not one cent gets allocated for
 ANYTHING without public approval. This is not at all hard to do. 

Now you're talking.  It seems our Republican form of government isn't working
the way it was designed because of all the legalized bribery that goes on.
It might work if bribes were made illegal and those taking bribes were
prosecuted.  I like the idea of the public approving expenditures, that way
politicians couldn't pay for their bribes doing favors for those who paid
them and the bribes would soon stop.

Regards,
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Re: [CTRL] Governor Death

[Yardbird]

 from now on, whenever I'm talking about the campaign, I will refer to George
 W. Bush as Governor Death.  Somehow the name just seems to fit...


Will you also be referring to Al Gore as Vice President Slum Lord or Vice
President Psuedo-ecologist? Somehow the names just seem to fit...

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[CTRL] Press Tried to Cover Up Hill's 'Jew Bastard' Slur

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff


Tuesday July 18, 2000; 8:09 PM EDT

Press Tried to Cover Up Hill's 'Jew Bastard' Slur


Sources in Arkansas told mainstream reporters at least a year ago
about Hillary Clinton's use of anti-Semitic language, but they
and their editors decided to withhold the bombshell revelation
from the American people.

"The State of a Union," a new book by former UPI reporter Jerry
Oppenheimer on Bill and Hillary Clinton's marriage, has forced
new scrutiny of 26-year-old allegations that the first lady
called former campaign aide Paul Fray a "F--king Jew Bastard."

But it turns out that Oppenheimer was far from the first reporter
to get the story.

NBC's Andrea Mitchell admitted Monday night that Fray recounted
the incident, complete with Hillary's anti-Semitic slur, during
an interview for the network's "Dateline NBC" program in 1999.
But NBC News editors decided to kill the report on the
sensational allegation because the story lacked corroboration,
Mitchell said.

The folks at NBC must not have tried too hard to substantiate
Fray's account, since his wife, Mary Lee, was more than willing
to corroborate the charge - as she has for dozens of reporters
since the story resurfaced on Friday.

Vanity Fair writer Gail Sheehy, who has enjoyed special access to
Mrs. Clinton over the years, did interview Mary Lee Fray for her
book "Hillary's Choice." But Sheehy told Newsday that even though
Mary Lee's account included Mrs.  Clinton's vile slur, her
husband made no mention of it in a separate interview.

Sheehy does not say that Mr.  Fray denied the story - only that
the subject did not come up.  Apparently the author herself
decided to avoid the topic, thereby ruling out any chance that a
second source for Hillary's anti-Semitic shocker would compel
publication.

Sheehy also took a pass on another story that lent credence to
what Mary Lee Fray had told her.

One-time Clinton consultant Dick Morris gave the Vanity Fair
writer an exclusive account of his now legendary story about
Hillary's use of a Jewish stereotype during an argument she had
with him.  "Money - that's all you people care about is money,"
Morris said Hillary yelled after he asked for a pay raise in
1986.

Last November Morris went public with the story, noting that he'd
told it to Sheehy for her then-upcoming Hillary biography. But
when the book hit the stands in December, Morris' explosive
report was nowhere to be found.

Apparently, even after hearing the key Clinton confidant's
account of Mrs.  Clinton's anti-Semitic remark, Ms.  Sheehy made
no connection to Mary Lee Fray's "Jew Bastard" story.

Now that the mainstream press has finally picked up on the
Hillary shocker that she walked away from, Sheehy calls the
charge "outrageously unfair."

But even with reporters going full throttle on the story, news
editors have declined to acknowledge that the very first person
to go public about Hillary's use of the term "Jew Bastard" was
former Clinton bodyguard Larry Patterson.

The recently retired Arkansas state trooper also says he and his
colleagues overheard the first lady using the "N" word on at
least six occasions.

In an exclusive interview with NewsMax.com last September,
Patterson detailed Hillary's regular use of ethnic slurs well
into the 1990s.

Ironically, though the media blackout on Patterson's far more
damaging account continues in full force, "State of a Union"
author Oppenheimer cites the former Clinton bodyguard's story as
corroboration for Paul Fray's account in his book.

Hear Trooper Patterson's blockbuster interview with NewsMax.com's
Christopher Ruddy in More Than Sex: The Secret Lives of Bill and
Hillary Clinton.



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[CTRL] Analysis: Navy Vulnerable to Cruise Missles

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

What Clinton has done to our military is, in my opinion, yet
another scandal.

CommentMax

Analysis: Navy Vulnerable to Cruise Missles

by

Christopher W.  Holton Wednesday, July 19, 2000

The General Accounting Office has released a report concluding
that our Navy is growing more vulnerable every day to anti-ship
cruise missile attacks.  The July 11 report, "Comprehensive
Strategy Needed to Improve Ship Cruise Missile Defenses," surely
comes as no surprise to anyone familiar with defense and maritime
issues.

It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to understand this
vulnerability, and the GAO’s 58-page report could probably have
been written in five pages or less by anyone who has served in
the U.S.  Navy over the past decade.

Seven Years of Downsizing and Neglect, or, 'Sorry, Paul, Peter Is
Out of Money'

During the years of the Clinton administration, the U.S.
fleet’s ability to defend itself against anti-ship cruise
missiles has been frozen in time in some aspects and degraded in
other aspects.  During this seven-year period, not one new weapon
system has been added to the inventory to defend against cruise
missile attack.

Sure, a few systems that were developed and ordered during the
Reagan and Bush administrations came on line during the early
Clinton years (AEGIS Vertical Launch System, Rolling Airframe
Missile, or RAM), but no new items have been added in seven
years.

Meanwhile, the threat has been growing.

Cruise Missiles: The Forgotten Threat

When the Royal Navy’s HMS Sheffield and the U.S.  Navy’s U.S.S.
Stark were struck with Exocet cruise missiles in the 1980s, there
was a high degree of awareness of the anti-ship missile threat.
Today, the focus has shifted to the dangerous ballistic missile
threat.

But proliferation of cruise missiles is a serious threat also.
Here is a list of some of the countries that have armed
themselves with modern anti-ship missiles:

Iran Iraq Red China North Korea Russia Libya Cuba And the cruise
missiles are getting faster and harder to hit.  According to
Great Britain’s authoritative Center for Defense and
International Security Studies (CDISS), Russia, Red China and
Iran are all believed to possess Russia’s Sunburn anti-ship
missile, with its large payload (1,000 pounds or more) and Mach
2.5 speed (1,650 mph) at just above sea level.

This threat is in another world from the Exocet that struck the
Sheffield in 1983, which carried a 250-pound warhead at a speed
of 500 mph.

With these three countries in possession of such a weapon, you
can be sure that countries such as North Korea, Iraq and Libya
will start asking for the same thing.  All they need to get the
Sunburn is money.

There are more countries with more anti-ship cruise missiles
around the world in 2000.  Meanwhile, the U.S.  Navy’s ability to
defend itself against this threat was arguably greater back in
1991, before Bill Clinton got elected, than it is today.

Defense in Depth

The U.S.  Navy’s strategy for defense against anti-ship missiles
has always been based on "defense in depth." That defense in
depth was composed of five rings:

The first ring was manned by the E-2C Hawkeye Airborne Early
Warning and Control (AEWC) aircraft operating in tandem with the
F-14 Tomcat armed with AIM-54C Phoenix air-to-air missiles.

The E-2C, operating 100 miles or so from the carrier battle
group, can detect threats out another 200-300 miles at altitudes
from near sea level all the way to 100,000 feet.  The E-2 can
detect aircraft and ships long before they get close enough to
the carrier to launch a missile (anti-ship missiles have ranges
up to about 185 miles).

It can also detect missiles launched from submerged submarines,
after the missile breaks the surface.  This information is
transferred to the F-14 Tomcat. The Tomcat’s powerful radar can
track 24 targets simultaneously and guide Phoenix missiles to six
of them (the last 10 miles or so, the Phoenix guides itself with
its own radar).  The Phoenix is big enough to knock a strategic
bomber out of the sky and smart enough and fast enough to knock a
Sunburn down.

The first ring is aging and close to becoming extinct.  The E-2C
has been around since the early 1980s.  It has received some
upgrades, but its radar and systems are still basically the same.

Potential adversaries have had 20 years to study the E-2C and
develop ways to get around it.  The F-14 Tomcat is one of the
tragic stories of naval aviation. Its latest version, the F-14D,
is arguably the world's best fighter, but budget considerations
and politics ensured that few of these were built.  The majority
of Tomcats in service are carrying the same radar and missiles
they carried 20 years ago.

Worse yet, the Tomcat’s numbers are shrinking.  Fifteen years
ago, each carrier air wing included 24 F-14s.  Today’s carrier
air wing has just 10.  And those 10 are overworked on other
tasks, namely night attack and photo reconnaissance.

The Tomcat has to perform in the attack role because the Navy
gave up 

Re: [CTRL] Administration Announces New Encryption Regulations

[Theodor Parada, MD]

In my humble opinion, the only reason they would release these
programs if they already have a back door in them.

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[CTRL] China and Sudan: Trading oil for humans

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

From:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_smith/2719_xcsof_china_and_.shtml

  To most Americans, slavery is a cruel historical fact
  from our national past. I have news for you. Slavery is
  not dead. America is missing a modern story of human
  suffering. The pleas of present day slaves seeking
  freedom. People are being sold like cattle into human
  bondage in exchange for black gold.

  Dr. Charles Jacobs from the Boston-based American
  Anti-Slavery group recently noted that slavery is part of
  the 13-year-old war in Sudan. The Muslim Sudanese
  government has launched a holy war against the black
  Christian and animist south. The war has left nearly two
  million dead and hundreds of thousands of homeless
  refugees. Arab militias, armed by the government, have
  been raiding African villages, shooting the men and
  enslaving the women and children. The latter are kept as
  personal property or marched north and sold.

  The fact is that humans are being enslaved and sold in
  the Sudan. Sudan, of course, is a client state of China,
  the strategic trading partner of President Clinton and
  Vice President Al Gore. The slavery in Sudan is well
  documented by independent organizations such as the
  U.N. and Amnesty International.

  The reason for China's interest in the Sudan is pure and
  simple. There is oil in Sudan. Petrochina, a company
  wholly owned by the Chinese government cut a deal
  with the Sudanese Muslim government to pump oil from
  the remote southern areas. To accomplish this task,
  China is building an oil pipeline right through the combat
  zone. Chinese soldiers are stationed on the pipeline to
  protect it. Chinese soldiers are working with the
  Sudanese Muslim soldiers to clear whole areas of the
  Christian population from around the pipeline.

  Yet, the Chinese assistance does not end with a simple
  oil pipeline. Sudan recently purchased nearly $100
  million in advanced Shenyang jet fighters from Beijing.
  According to a U.N. report, the Sudanese Air Force
  regularly bombs and strafes innocent civilians. Airfields
  constructed for the Petrochina pipeline are being used to
  fly bombing missions against the fleeing civilian refugees.
  Chinese soldiers are accused of assisting the Sudanese
  military and of participating in the atrocities. Chinese
  soldiers on the ground in Sudan are accused of rape,
  murder and ethnic cleansing.

  America is not innocent in this matter. Petrochina was
  recently sponsored by Goldman Sachs to raise
  investment funding in America. The investment offering
  by Goldman Sachs might have failed if it were not for
  BP/Amoco, which invested billions of dollars into the
  Sudan pipeline. Today, neither BP/Amoco nor Goldman
  Sachs wish to comment on exactly how much American
  money is being used by Petrochina to murder Sudanese
  civilians.

  There are many testimonials of the Sudanese slave
  trade. One person who can testify what it is to be a 21st
  century slave is Francis Bok. Bok walked out of
  bondage in Sudan and found freedom in Egypt. Bok
  was born a Christian and forced to become Muslim
  when he was enslaved. Bok's amazing tale of captivity
  and escape to freedom is filled with brutal violence.

  "The Sudanese Islamic soldiers told me 'We see you
  like animals'," said Bok. "I have seen many people killed
  like animals and many children sold into slavery. I saw
  people shot, killed, children who cried had their hands
  or legs chopped off as an example to the others."

  Bok stated he was enslaved when he was
  seven-years-old, during a trip to a local market.
  Sudanese Muslim soldiers shot all the adults and
  adolescent boys on the spot. Children who were not
  killed outright were rounded up and tied on to donkeys.
  Children too small to straddle an animal were tied into
  baskets.

  

[CTRL] OT: Categorizing The Irrational

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

[These are GOOD.  Seems I have only been irrational in
27 ways:( --MS]


1: AMAZINGLY BAD ANALOGY:

Example: You can train a dog to fetch a stick. therefore, you can
train a potato to dance.


2: FAULTY CAUSE AND EFFECT:

Example: On the basis of my observations, wearing huge pants
makes you fat.


3: I AM THE WORLD:

Example: I don't listen to country music.  Therefore, country
music is not popular.


4: IGNORING EVERYTHING SCIENCE KNOWS ABOUT THE BRAIN:

Example: People choose to be obese/gay/alcoholic because they
prefer the lifestyle.


5: THE FEW ARE THE SAME AS THE WHOLE:

Example: Some Elbonians are animal rights activists.  Some
Elbonians were fur coats.  Therefore, all Elbonians are
hypocrites.


6: GENERALISING FROM SELF:

Example: I'm a liar.  Therefore I don't believe what you're
saying.


7: TOTAL LOGICAL DISCONNECTION:

Example: I enjoy pasta because my house is made of bricks.


8: ARGUMENT BY BIZARRE DEFINITION:

Example: He's not a criminal.  He just does things that are
against the law.


9: ANYTHING YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND IS EASY TO DO:

Example: If you have the right tools, how hard can it be to
generate nuclear fission at home.


10: IGNORANCE OF STATISTICS:

Example: I'm putting ALL of my money on the lottery this week
because the jackpot is so big.


11:IGNORING THE DOWNSIDE RISK:

Example: I know that bungy jumping could kill me but it's 3
seconds of pure fun!


12: SUBSTITUTING FAMOUS QUOTES FOR COMMON SENSE:

Example: Remember "all things come to those who wait".  So don't
bother looking for a job.


13: IRRELEVANT COMPARISONS:

Example: $100 is a good price for a toaster, compared to buying a
Ferrari.


14: CIRCULAR REASONING:

Example: I'm correct because I'm smarter than you. And I must be
smarter than you because I'm correct.


15: INCOMPLETENESS AS PROOF OF FACT

Example: Your theory of gravity doesn't address the question of
why there are no unicorns, so it must be wrong.



16: IGNORING THE ADVICE OF EXPERTS WITHOUT GOOD REASON:

Example: Sure the experts ay you shouldn't ride a bicycle in the
eye of a hurricane, but I have my own theory.


17: FOLLOWING THE ADVICE OF KNOWN IDIOTS:

Example: Uncle Horace says eating pork makes you smarter.
that's good enough for me.


18: REACHING BIZARRE CONCLUSIONS WITHOUT ANY INFORMATION:

Example: My car won't start.  I'm certain the sparkplugs have
been stolen by rogue clowns.


19: FAULTY PATTERN RECOGNITION:

Example: His last 6 wives were murdered mysteriously.  I hope to
be wife #7.


20: FAILURE TO RECOGNISE WHAT'S IMPORTANT:

Example: My house is on fire! Quick, call the post office and
tell them to hold my mail!


21: OVERAPPLICATION OF OCCAM'S RAZOR (WHICH SAYS THAT THE
SIMPLEST EXPLANATION MUST BE CORRECT):

Example: The simplest explanation for the moon landings is that
they were hoaxes.


22: INABILITY TO UNDERSTAND THAT SOME THINGS HAVE MULTIPLE
CAUSES:

Example: The Beatles were popular for one reason only: they were
good singers.


23: JUDGING THE WHOLE BY ONE OF IT'S CHARACTERISTICS:

Example: The sun causes sunburns.  Therefore the planet would be
better off without the sun.


24: BLINDING FLASHES OF THE OBVIOUS:

Example: If everyone had more money, we could eliminate poverty.


25: BLAMING THE TOOL:

Example: I bought an encyclopedia but I'm still stupid.


26: TAKING THINGS TO THEIR ILLOGICAL CONCLUSION:

Example: If you let your barber cut your hair, they next thing
you know he'll be lopping your limbs off.


27: PROOF BY LACK OF EVIDENCE:

Example: I've never seen you drunk, so you must be one of those
Amish people.


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[CTRL] Hillary's History of Memory Loss Undermines Slur Denials

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

[Key:  =  ..  my emphasis added to passage]


NewsMax

Wednesday July 19, 2000; 2:49 PM EDT

Hillary's History of Memory Loss Undermines Slur Denials

Hillary Clinton has failed to recall key details about her
involvement in a variety of White House scandals over the last
few years, calling into question the credibility of her denial on
Sunday that she once called her husband's campaign manager a "f -
- king Jew bastard."

"It did not happen...  It's absolutely false  I've never said
anything like that in my entire life," the first lady told
reporters about Paul and Mary Lee Fray's charge that she yelled
the anti-Semitic slur during a 1974 election night meeting.

But despite her vehement denials, Mrs.  Clinton says she has no
memory whatsoever of the explosive encounter -- an event
confirmed even by her husband who was there.

=  "I don't remember being in the room," Hillary claimed,
=  in a much overlooked comment during her Sunday
=  press conference.

=  The first lady's bizarre memory loss about an episode
=  that virtually everybody else present claims to remember
=  vividly mirrors a litany of "I don't recall" responses to
=  investigators who questioned Hillary's role in other
=  controversies.

Barbara Olson was chief counsel to the House Committee that
investigated the first lady's role in the firing of the the
Travel Office staff in 1993.  In 1996 Olson prepared 36
interrogatories for Mrs.  Clinton to answer under oath.

Olson's notes, shared exclusively with NewsMax.com earlier this
year, shows that Mrs.  Clinton repeatedly failed to remember key
details of her own role in the Travelgate scandal:

"HRC (Hillary Rodham Clinton) testified under oath to the
Committee's March 1996 interrogatories that, 'I do not recall
what, if anything, I may have said to (Vince Foster) on this
topic.'"

"HRC testified that she does 'not recall' numerous conversations
with Harry Thomason, Vince Foster, Mack McLarty and David Watkins
about the Travel Office."

"HRC testified that she did 'not recall' telling the White House
press staff that 'the firing of the Travel Office employees would
be a good story.'"

When Olson questioned the first lady about the files that were
removed from Vince Foster's office after his death, Hillary's
faulty memory emerged again:

"HRC testified under oath in interrogatories signed March 21,
1996 that she does 'not recall' having had communications with
anyone about the removal of documents from Mr.  Foster's office'
."

In answers to interrogatories by the Senate Whitewater Committee,
the first lady said she had no recollection to whom she spoke
during a mysterious phone call she made to the White House on the
night of Foster's death.

White House deputy chief of staff Bill Burton later stepped
forward to acknowledge that he had taken Hillary's call that
night.  Burton told investigators that it was in that
conversation that Hillary learned for the first time about the
details of Foster's gruesome gunshot death.

Despite Burton's own vivid recollection of the chilling moment,
Mrs. Clinton said she had no memory of the conversation between
herself and Burton.

Neither could Mrs.  Clinton recall what she discussed with her
chief of staff Maggie Williams, her New York confidante Susan
Thomases and Foster's boss Bernie Nussbaum during dozens phone
calls she made to them in the hours after Foster's death.

Likewise, the first lady had no recollection of how her long
supoenaed billing records had migrated from the Rose Law firm to
the White House book room; adjacent to her own office in the
White House residence, after they were discovered in 1996.

The discovery of her fingerprints on the document along with
Vince Foster's handwriting did nothing to jog Mrs.  Clinton's
memory.


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Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: $100 BILLION for Israel, Arab phony peace]

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if bribes were made illegal
 . . .
 the bribes would soon stop.


Sure. Just like drugs did when they were made illegal.

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[CTRL] Analysis of the Waco Wrongful Death Verdict

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

From:

http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/findlaw_waco000719.html


FindLaw Resources

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/findlaw_subindex.html


‘It Wasn’t Even Close’
Analysis of the Waco Wrongful Death Verdict

By Solomon Wisenberg
Commentary by FindLaw

July 19 — In the end, it wasn’t even close. After a month of
testimony and just a few hours of deliberations, an advisory jury
cleared the government of wrongdoing during the 1993 siege of the
Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas.

 Survivors of the fire that ended the siege in April, along
with relatives of those who died, had brought a wrongful death
action against the government, seeking damages.

 But the advisory jury wasn’t convinced, and found for the
government across the board. (The jury served in an advisory
capacity because actions under the Federal Tort Claims Act (FTCA)
are heard by a federal judge alone.

 Presumably, United States District Judge Walter Smith, Jr.
empaneled the jury because of the sensitive nature of the case.
He will make the final ruling himself, likely in August.)
Although the jurors have not discussed their reasoning publicly,
the decisive verdict seems to have resulted from evidence that
the Davidians were largely responsible for the deaths and
injuries they sustained.

 If, as is expected, Judge Smith adopts the jury’s findings,
the trial court will conclude that:

  ATF agents did not fire indiscriminately (or without
provocation) during the execution of the search warrant at the
Branch Davidians’ Mount Carmel complex on Feb. 28, 1993.

  The FBI did not negligently deviate from a
Washington-approved tear gas plan on April 19, 1993, when agents
knocked down Mount Carmel’s walls five hours into the operation.
The approved plan called for the walls to be knocked down 48
hours into the operation.

  The FBI did not negligently start or contribute to the
spread of the fire or negligently fail to have fire-fighting
equipment in place on April 19.


The Battle With The ‘Beast’


The key to the government’s victory appears to have been the deep
complicity of the Davidian leadership in the events of Feb. 28
and April 19. Trial testimony showed that many adult male
Davidians (and some females as well) together unloaded a massive
volley of gunfire at ATF agents trying to execute a valid search
warrant on Feb. 28, 1993.

 Davidian leader David Koresh unquestionably knew that
federal law enforcement agents, rather than unknown intruders,
were on the scene and in fact had warned his followers of a
future battle with such a “beast.”

 Indeed, the testimony established that the ATF agents,
rather than Koresh and his followers, were taken by surprise and
pinned down under heavy fire with limited ammunition. Under these
circumstances, it seems fair to assume that the jury was not all
that bothered by the possibility that some ATF gunfire
indiscriminately raked the second story windows of the compound.

 Most Americans, no matter how skeptical they may be of the
law enforcement community, are not willing to let their fellow
citizens choose which warrants to accept or reject — especially
when that rejection is accompanied by machine gun fire.

 The government’s evidence as to who started the fires on
April 19 was similarly devastating. In addition to expert
testimony that the Davidians were responsible for setting the
fires, FBI-installed listening devices recorded sect members
joking about becoming “charcoal briquettes” and contemplating
“catching fire” a day before the compound was destroyed.

 And on the day of the fire, the listening devices recorded
the chilling commands to “spread the fuel” and “light the torch.”
Given the Davidian involvement in starting and spreading the
fire, it is not surprising that the advisory jury absolved the
government on this question.

 Lead plaintiffs’ attorney Michael Caddell complained loudly
about Judge Smith’s jury instructions, particularly Smith’s
refusal to distinguish between child and adult victims, or to
allow the jury find that the government’s actions contributed to
the Davidians’ decision to commit suicide. But given the brief
duration of the deliberations and the strength of the
government’s evidence, it is hard to imagine a different result
even with Caddell’s proposed changes.


What the Jury Did Not Hear

But there is a little more to the story. Theoretically important
to the government’s victory was the testimony the jury never
heard or ruled upon, due to Judge Smith’s pretrial rulings
concerning the scope of the discretionary function exception to
the FTCA.

Under this exception, the government is immune from suit for
the negligent acts of its agents if they are performing
discretionary, policy-type functions — such as deciding how to
execute a search warrant — pursuant to statute, regulation or
agency guidelines.

 One could reasonably conclude that there were negligent acts
by the ATF 

Re: [CTRL] AP: U.S. Senator from Georgia dies

[William Shannon]

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 Latest number in the Clinton Body Count? 

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Re: [CTRL] Governor Death

[William Shannon]

In a message dated 7/19/00 7:48:34 PM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Will you also be referring to Al Gore as Vice President Slum Lord 


Really not sure this one fits at all..."slum lord" is serious hyperbole
whipped up by the fringe-right press corps...



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Re: [CTRL] Governor Death

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In a message dated 7/19/00 9:26:29 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Don't forget Union Buster Nader.
  

Or V.D. Buchanan!

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[CTRL] Iris Scanning in test in Charlotte

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

Iris Scans Take Off At Airports: Officials Report No Protests
About Eye ID

Source: Computerworld
Published: July 17, 2000 Author: Michael Meehan

In one of the first public applications of eye-scanning
technology, two airports this week will begin scanning
passengers' irises as part of an effort to streamline boarding
and security processes.

Using video cameras to scan the iris - the colored ring that
surrounds the pupil in the human eye - EyeTicket Corp. in McLean,
Va., will begin registering passengers at Charlotte/ Douglas
International Airport in North Carolina and Flughafen Frankfurt
Airport in Germany today. EyeTicket has been scanning
Charlotte/Douglas airport employees and U.S. Airways Group Inc.
flight staffs since May.

The airport rollouts are among the first major business
applications involving iris-scan technology. Until now, Bank
United Corp. in Houston had been engaged in the most notable
business application of iris scans, observers said.

In May last year, the bank converted three supermarket automated
teller machines, at a cost of $5,000 each, to use the technology
to identify customers before they conducted transactions. Bank
United remains the lone player in its industry to go live with
the technology, said Judy Wong, an analyst at Newton, Mass.-based
Meridien Research Inc.

The technology got its start in law enforcement. In 1996,
Lancaster County Prison in Pennsylvania became the first
correctional facility to use iris scanning. Warden Vincent A.
Guarini said the facility sometimes needs to release prisoners on
short notice and can't wait for fingerprint tests.

Charlotte/Douglas aviation director Jerry Orr said his facility
agreed to test the iris scans, which translate the 266
independent characteristics of the iris into a 512-byte digital
code, for security purposes. Orr said reports from airport
workers and flight crews have been positive. A 30 frame/ sec.,
black-and-white video camera is used to take a picture of the eye
from 6 to 36 inches away. EyeTicket Chairman and CEO Stewart Mann
said iris scans aren't invasive like retina scans, which use a
laser to probe the eye. He also said retinas change during a
person's life, whereas irises don't.

Once U.S. Airways passengers enroll, their codes will be stored
for future use. Mann said he hopes airline passengers will be
able to step in front of a terminal kiosk, get scanned in one
second and then be issued a boarding pass - a process he expects
to bring online within a year.

Supporters of the scans say the technology provides a way to
identify people through a unique feature, since no two irises are
the same.

Kevin Mitchell, chairman of the Business Travel Coalition, which
lobbies airlines and others on issues that affect business
travelers, sees iris scans as a convenience, not an intrusion.

"If you don't feel violated in an airport today by all the
questions and the searches, this isn't going to make you feel
more violated," he said.

He said he thinks passengers will be willing to test the programs
for additional frequent-flier miles or other perks.

Orr said the iris scans have other advantages. "Obviously, your
eye's pretty secure," he said. "You always have it with you. You
don't have to worry if you left it somewhere or if someone else
is using it when they shouldn't."

Wong said she believes that biometric technologies will be
adopted slowly. "It's a lot of work to convert all those
machines," she said.



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[CTRL] Global school lunch program?

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

From:

http://www.hudson.org/new_detail.cfm?Art_ID=382

One Billion School Kids, a New Market For US Farmers?

Dennis T. Avery

BRIDGE NEWS

July 14, 2000

CHURCHVILLE, Va. - The Clinton administration has backed some bad
ideas, including Hillary Clinton's attempted health-care takeover
and giving the federal government hypothetical authority to
inspect your home office for safety hazards.

 For a bad idea on a global scale, however, it's hard to beat
Clinton's latest legacy-building proposal - a global school lunch
program. It would be run by the United Nations, with the United
States contribution mainly in the form of surplus farm
commodities.

 The idea itself came from former Sen. George McGovern, who
originated the old Food for Peace program and is currently
America's ambassador to the United Nations' food agencies in
Rome. McGovern wants the United States to guarantee a nutritious
school lunch for every school kid in the world.

 Secretary of Agriculture Dan Glickman is enthusiastic. "The
president gave us the green light to go out and develop this
program," He says. "It was clear the president and his staff were
very impressed with the idea."

 But the folks who must really love the global school lunch
idea are at the United Nations itself. Imagine a U.S.-backed
program to put a United Nations presence in every school in the
Third World! Imagine handing out school lunches daily to 1
billion kids.

 It must make U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan giddy to
think of the political capital he could build with such a handout
program, especially compared to putting U.N.-sponsored troops
into some heavily armed hellhole like Somalia.

 America's school lunch programs have been an excellent way
to enhance childrens' nutrition. The costs have been rational.
But it's a U.S. program, run mostly at the local level, with most
of the costs paid by the parents.

 When The Washington Times interviewed McGovern about the
program, he said, "I estimate this program will cost a total of $
3 billion for the first two years." He pooh-poohed the idea of
big costs. "School lunches in developing countries cost 12 to 15
cents per meal, while U.S. school lunches cost a little over
$1.20."

 McGovern's $ 1.5 billion a year might cover local commodity
costs. But the administration sees the lunch issue as a way to
unload some of what McGovern would call our farm surplus. It
might easily cost 10 times the value of the U.S. commodities to
ship them to hungry kids in upcountry Nigeria.

 First list the cost of shipping the commodities to Lagos,
Nigeria, and hand-bagging them at dockside. Then add the cost of
trucking them hundreds of kilometers over potholed dirt roads and
rivers without bridges to reach northern cities like Kaduna or
Kano.

 When America tried to get food aid to starving Ethiopians
during their drought in the early 1980s, we had to provide the
commodities, the trucks to carry the food inland, the fuel for
said trucks and the cost of the ships to carry the food, trucks
and fuel.

 McGovern also noted the United States has to pay one-fourth
of the total cost. So if we take on school lunches for 1 billion
kids and the global cost is $ 6 billion (or $ 60 billion) Uncle
Sam pays one-fourth of the bill.

 Moreover, when America sponsored school lunch programs for
Japan after WWII, we introduced bread, milk and even meat to
improve the kids' nutrition.

 How long would the United Nations resist the temptation to
increase its impact and political importance by doing likewise?
What affluent democracy could take the political heat for denying
such important nutritional benefits to little kids once the
program became a recognized entitlement?

 A few things are certain here. First, little kids in
northern Nigeria and everywhere else should go to school. Second,
they should have good nutrition. Third, school lunches have
helped to provide good nutrition for poor kids in affluent
countries.

 But the only cost-effective way to provide good nutrition in
remote poverty-stricken places is by using local sources. Any
foreign money and commodities flowing to the kind of kleptocratic
governments that rule such states will mostly be stolen, no
matter who administers it. That's why the billions in foreign aid
we've already handed to African leaders haven't helped much.

 The farming community always loved Food for Peace because it
seemed like a limitless and supposedly constructive way to
dispose of the surpluses generated by America's high farm price
supports. Glickman probably loves the idea because it would give
him something tangible to wave in front of farm audiences as he
campaigns for Vice President Al Gore.

 But farmers would find a global school lunch program
shipping a few thousand tons of costly U.S. commodities to some
school kids a poor substitute for free trade, which would boost
world farm market prices and double world farm exports.

 For years, 

[CTRL] F*CKING J*W B*STARD BUTTONS TO GO ON SALE

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

F*J*B* BUTTONS TO GO ON SALE
ON LCOM TOMORROW

Lucianne.com, by LComStaff
Original Article Posted By:LComStaff,
7/19/00 8:36:53 PM

We have ordered our first shipment of F*J*B* Buttons.  If your
arent't one you know one.  This is a one time must have to
reminder Hillary we won't forget.  We're mad as hell and she'll
have to take it some more.Buttons, large and black and white be
$5.00 a piece to defray costs.

We'd like an idea of who is interested so E mail us (above) with
your interest.  Details upcoming.

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Re: [CTRL] More on the Borden Murders (was: KNIGHTS TEMPLAR)

[Kelly]

June wrote more on the muders

Thanks June - facinating case!  If you ever write that book, let me
know!

Kelly

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Re: [CTRL] F*CKING J*W B*STARD BUTTONS TO GO ON SALE

[William Shannon]

In a message dated 7/19/00 10:34:11 PM Central Daylight Time,
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 F*J*B* BUTTONS TO GO ON SALE
 ON LCOM TOMORROW

 Lucianne.com, by LComStaff
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Hey! Maybe if she sells enough of this tripe Ms. Lucianne will "do the right
thing" and follow in the footsteps of her galpal Ms. Tripp...and get that
(much-needed) facelift!!!
Not that it would help either of them! Arf arf...

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Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: $100 BILLION for Israel, Arab phony peace]

[Bob Stokes]

In a message dated 00-07-19 22:24:10 EDT, nessie writes:

 if bribes were made illegal
  . . .
  the bribes would soon stop.


 Sure. Just like drugs did when they were made illegal. 

You seem to have missed a few words.

"It might work if bribes were made illegal and those taking bribes were
prosecuted.  I like the idea of the public approving expenditures, that way
politicians couldn't pay for their bribes doing favors for those who paid
them and the bribes would soon stop."

My point is that if the money-making profit motive was removed, then bribes
would be ineffective. The corporations aren't going to give money to someone
without a good chance of increasing profits.

Drugs were made illegal so the government could sell them at a great profit.
It also provides a convenient excuse to jail people who aren't hurting anyone
except "maybe" themselves.  Nicotine is extremely harmful and addictive, I
know I couldn't stop smoking when the reward was great.  Only the "little
people" can get busted for drugs.

I personally think the only way to control this "out of control" crooked
government is by radical means.  Voting is a joke.

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Bob Stokes

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