[CTRL] Fwd: iExclusive /i: Salt Lake Olympics Don’t Want Scouts – Just Their Money

2001-02-09 Thread Aleisha Saba

I have always wondered about this Nancy Kerrigan or whatever her name
was and Harding girl - husband alleged to have hired thugs to cripple
Kerrigan - however the blows were very very slight, and from the size of
that Eacret - looked like 300 pound blimp - had he wanted to he could
have broken her legs...

Now this act of violence immediately made Kerrigan a Star (who they all
wanted, because she appeared a little more classy than Hardy)...but this
act pushed the Olympics and Ice Skating ratings up and up - and then of
course we had Rex Jewell blamed for using a pipe bomb and attempting to
blow up something at the Olympics in Georgia, where all complained
afterwards of the carnival atsmophere and Stevie Wonder and these so
called "music makers" were going to hog the arena - taking away the
gloriious limelight from the Olympians - who did not go along with
that,a for they flooded over into the arena much to the shock of the
"merrymakers" bought and paid for by whom, I do not know -

Do know this, the Olympics is America is turning into so much
garbagereason you pay $4.00 for box of Wheaties - why you have a
ipicture of an olympian or Tiger Woods - pigs all at trough making fast
buck.

So now we have Utah and right away the crooked board controlling the
2002 Olympics in Utah got into a mess indicating corruption before it
even began.now Clinton was President then and so the Boy Scouts were
not permitted to participate in the activities.yet the arena will be
cloaked with the sodomistsso it looks like it is still the Boy
Scouts with their little Beanies (cubs) vs. the Sodomites and the Boy
Scouts believe me, ar winning.

Clinton is gone - and Gore lost.with them their own particular brand
of Born Again Christian philosophybut the Boy Scouts are stil there
- remember how these trashy democrats booed the Boy Scouts Honor Guard
holding the American Flag - now if they had had the Gay Pride Flag - oh
my love and kisses and huggies already to jump themand your kids.

So  who and what will make the Olympic ratings go up this year - anyone
ever check out that big rhino that was in on Kerrigan's publicity - if
that guy is who I think he is - he was linked through his father maybe
to this bunch in Columbus who had a few things going against them - like
well never did find out much about that guy, but he was for
hire.now he looks just like this one man, a disbarred lawyer who
went to prison involved in gas=oil frauds linked to Lansky.huge man,
maybe 300 lbs.hooked up to the usual suspects shall we say?

So Here's To the Boy Scouts - and we have a President now whom I believe
will not permit the children of American to be served to sodomists on a
silver platter - the doors will close oh but so slowly -

As for the Olympics - boycott them - they went busto in Georgia and
wonder what they will do to try to get people interested in 2002 - blow
up the Mormon Church or some nice thing like that for this is organized
crime working - and the Olympians no longer the gods they once were -
check the drunken Russian Ice Skater who is getting oh so fat from the
alcoholnote the homosexual star in the group - what does being a
homosexual have to do with the Olympics - why does this obvious sicko
have to come out of the closet when it was obvious with his see through
net costume, he was what he was?

Is this a qualification now to be in Olympics?  You must be a sodomist?
Wonder if a Boy Scout can get into the Olympics now.


What is it now - used to be a race war and now is it to become the
Sodomists vs. the Boy Scouts.and oh, need a few more bombs to liven
up the event?


Read this garbage already and only in America could this happen - the
destruction of the once great Oympian Games.imagine they will have
Barney Franks there with USA flying Gay Pride?

Saba


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[CTRL] Fwd: Clinton Pardoned Mossad Spy for Israelis - Remember USS Liberty

2001-02-09 Thread Aleisha Saba

This man is not just a Mossad Spy for he is for sale to anyone...he
is open to civil suits and Clinton can pardon him all he wants, but one
good taxpayers suit against him might suffice.

Mossad Spy?   Dual Citizensp anybody?

Arab Nations are not stupid for they have the ace in the hole - oil -
oil - and more oiland if these Israelies or anyone else ever attempt
to take over the oil fields - remember they are wired and readyto blow
and here you see the Armageddon - Hells Fire..

Tell me why billions of dollars to Israelies when they have their
"spies" stealing from USA?

These are friends - friendly fire like USS Liberty when the napalmed the
decks of this great ship while OUR MEN lie on deck where 37 were
murdered and 171 wounded and they were napalmed over 45 minutes and
bombed as the Israelies tried to sink same to destroy evidence?

As Contract Murderer says " where there is a testament, there must be
death of the testators" or kill all for dead men tell no tales.

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 The political elite know very well the real story of how their friends in
the Israeli/Jewish lobby helped bring Clinton to power in the first place;
and once in the White House manipulated him continually to bring about the
kind of Pax Israelica they so covet, a "final settlement" with the Palestinians
using Arafat to legitimize their designs.  That of course is what all those
visits to the Clinton White House -- continually playing to Arafat's vanity,
bank accounts and fears -- were all about.
Jonathan Pollard was too difficult to let go.  Oh Clinton tried.  But the
backlash from the CIA and Pentagon would have been more than he felt he could
handle.  Second on the Israeli list it now appears was Marc Rich.  The likelihood
is that Rich was at the least a major Mossad "asset", though not an official
agent.  Oh yes, one more thing, those rumored Mossad sex tapes of Clinton in
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MARC RICH WAS "A MOSSAD" SPY FOR ISRAEL
   By Niles Latham

[New York Post - 5 February]:  Billionaire Marc Rich lived a double life during
his 20 years as a fugitive, funneling secret data to Israeli and other intelligence
services about some unsavory governments.

Sensational details about Rich's ultimate high-wire act as a spy for Israel
and other countries were provided to The Post as congressional committees prepare
to hold hearings into former President Bill Clinton's controversial decision
to pardon the fugitive commodities trader.

Among the issues that will be explored by the House Oversight Committee in
its probe of the hotly disputed Rich pardon, according to congressional sources,
are:
* Rich's lengthy relationship with the Israeli Mossad.
* His numerous contacts with federal prosecutors in New York, during which
his lawyers offered to provide   intelligence to the CIA in return for leniency.
A CIA spokesman denied any relationship with Rich and said no one from the
agency participated in behind-the-scenes White House discussions about his
pardon.

But Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak repeatedly cited Rich's contributions
to Israel's "national security" in phone calls to President Clinton last month
in which he lobbied for Rich's pardon, according to Barak spokesman Gadi Baltiansky.
 And a letter from former Mossad chief Shabtai Shavit to Clinton confirming
that Rich provided "assistance" to the Israeli spy agency that produced results
"beyond the expected" was among the documents released last week by Rich's
lawyer Jack Quinn to support the Rich pardon.

"The government of Israel considered Rich a critical ally, and the president
took that seriously when he considered the pardon request," former White House
spokesman Jake Siewert told The Post.

Rich and partner Pincus Green fled the country in 1983 ahead of federal charges
that they ripped off taxpayers for $48 million. Both were among the 140 people
pardoned or given clemency on Clinton's last day in office.

A storm of controversy has erupted over the unusual way the Rich pardon was
handled, as well as over the involvement 

Re: [CTRL] Mad Computer Disease

2001-02-09 Thread Aleisha Saba

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Well Birds - people behind computers are robots putting in knowledge of
others.

No need for use of intelligence or original thoughtsanyone can sit
down and use a calculator or computer - but can someone sit down and add
up figures in their heads?

Empty heads behind computers - looking up reference books and using
words of others?  Make you look smart on computer in print out but boy,
when some of these people try to sit down and write a letter their
ignorance really shows?

People sitting behind computers all day are also taller when sitting
down than standing - for they are also sitting on brains?

Glad I have a web tv which someone bought me just for fun.

Oh Computers look so smart quoting Shakespeare, bible, Bryant,
Longfellow, Hazlitt, Fitzgerald, etc, etc, etc.

But did you ever break behind the computer image and see the typist
sitting behind the lightduhh, duhh and more duhh.

Loaded with knowledge in form of encyclopedians but empty headed; using
words of others to look oh so smart, when collective iq averages
70..

Like who writes the speeches as compares to the guy who delivers same -
and takes the bow.

I wrote a speech once that was delivered over Stone Mountain in Georgia;
I was quoted by Harry Truman way back, at a labor day celebration where
I said " no matter what, the worst democrat is better than the best
republican" and being in my teens and in college, I really meant
that..I have been reported on Paul Harvey twice, made 60 minutes
once and my words went all over the world..oh but fame, sometimes
fleeting - but those were words that I wrote - and have been published
once in FATE Magazine when only 16 - a magazine my mother loved to read.

Flattered that Paul Harvey chose my words and actions twice on his
show..and 60 Minutes, well I was a little shocked they gave me so
much time and had to lay low for a week...

Such is the life of a person with original thoughts as compared to the
poor computer operator, the glorified typist, who uses the words of
others, with no original thoughts of their own.

This is what you call, empty headed morons.

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[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Daily News on Bush faith-based plan

2001-02-09 Thread Kris Millegan





NY Daily News 29/2001
 W's Faith-Based Funding:
 An Idea Not To Believe In
 by Zev Chafets
 
 
 President Bush's plan to give federal money to faith-based organizations is
 a terrible and dangerous idea.
 
 The first hint of trouble is the term itself. What is a "faith-based"
 organization? Logically, it's the opposite of a "fact-based" organization.
 But that's not what it means. It's another way to say "religious." In public
 policy, euphemism is usually an early warning signal.
 
 Lately, there is a feeling in the land — and certainly in the Bush White
 House — that religious faith is inherently praiseworthy. This ignores
 history and reality. The Muslim fanatics who bombed the World Trade Center
 were motivated by religious faith. So were the Brooklyn rabbis who praised
 mass murderer Baruch Goldstein. So were the Southern ministers who fought
 civil rights. Some faith is lethal faith.
 
 Organized religion also can be the refuge of scoundrels — con men like Jim
 Bakker, holy hypocrites à la Jimmy Swaggart, demagogues such as Meir Kahane
 and racists like Minister Louis Farrakhan and Richard Butler, pastor of the
 Aryan Nations. Some faith is corrosive faith.
 
 Faith-based groups sometimes double as centers of secular influence. In the
 black community, ministers are often partisan powerbrokers — think of the
 Rev. Al Sharpton or the Rev. Jesse Jackson. So are white televangelists like
 the Rev. Pat Robertson and the Rev. Jerry Falwell. The recent presidential
 pardon of four Talmudic con men highlighted the clout of various Hasidic
 sects in New York. Not all faith is disinterested faith.
 
 In funding the good works of religious groups, the government puts itself in
 the position of deciding who is worthy. The criterion the Bush
 administration proposes — results, not doctrine — is ludicrously unworkable.
 A sect like the Five Percenters, for example, helps get prisoners off drugs,
 but it also organizes them into gangs. There are churches that house the
 homeless while dispatching activists to harass abortion clinics. Some
 American mosques and synagogues support Mideast extremists.
 
 The idea that money can be safely earmarked for government-approved charity
 is illusory. Money is fungible. Help a house of worship expand its day care
 center, and you may be freeing funds for other, more controversial purposes.
 
 To prevent abuses, the government will have to vet, certify and police
 religious groups. This isn't a slippery slope, it is a constitutional Grand
 Canyon. Bush can't be unaware of this. So why is he determined to go ahead?
 
 The charitable explanation is that he himself was helped by faith and wants
 to expand religion's capacity to help others. But it is also possible that
 he sees this as way to reach out (with a fistful of federal dollars) to his
 base on the Christian right and to ethnic voters in urban America.
 
 It is depressing, but true, that some faith is simply bad faith.
 
 
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Re: [CTRL] Cheney Facing Suit Over Contract

2001-02-09 Thread Aleisha Saba

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What do we have here - trying a court case on the web?

Under Douglass we knew with whom we were dealing...from what I have
read here this sounds like some of Jesse Jackson blackmail holdup crap.

The Navy Department - remember Jonathan Pollard and the Walker spies
working with KGB?

The Navy Department has been infitrated with  and Mossad Agents -
remember the USS Liberty and USS Cole ALWAYS

As for the USS Liberty, which sailed in INERNATIONAL WATERS.the idea
was to blame the sinking of this great ship on Egyptas for the
USS Cole?

You re-read this stuff Bird, and you see Jesse Jackson tactics -
blackmail.who writes all these books?   Cui Bonooh the writing
of many books it is said the Judas always escapes to write the books.
Cheney is ethical - and will not try to win his case in the Editor's
Green Mail Bag - these people are attempting to blackmail the government
to settle?   Might be interesting to check this stuff out along with the
franchises that the kids of Jesse Jackson got ..criminal acts of
blackmail here.

I do know this we had KGB and Navy Department Walker spies posing as KKK
stealing secrets and Jonathan Pollard - peace was beginning with Sadaam
Hussein until the Pollard incident.  Pollard is guilty of many Iraqi
childen dying because now we are enemies.

Israel is attempting to isolate the USA from Arab friends who have
provided this country with much needed oil for many, many years.  Sadaam
Hussein had offered USA cheap oil.yet the double agent Pollard
sabotaged this friendship with Iraq..

The Israelie Zionists are not friends of the USA - they want the USA for
this they believe is also their promised land...why do you think the
Zionists lay claim to the news media = to mold public opinion in their
favor.

Big mistake to put Sharon, whom the Palestinians call "the fat slob" in
charge - for it is said his "romantic" appeal is gone, if you call a fat
slob romantic - well..

Let the War Begin and let the world see what Israel is all about and
then ask - why is David Duke in Russia today?This imposter who said
he was Klansman?   What is his real name...like a Hitler and Hess - what
are these people and what are their real names for as in a Shakespearian
play - they take roles and names from the bible, even unto the name of
Lazaras..resurrected like a vampire - who are these people who steal
the natural r esoures of the world from the people?

Name a few:   Kissinger for one, but by himself he is a crowd..the
only thing of interest to these pigs in the holy land, is the
oil

Or are they all born again Zionists?

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[CTRL] NYT: The Pardons Look More Sordid

2001-02-09 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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http://www.nytimes.com/2001/02/09/opinion/09FRI1.html

February 9, 2001

EDITORIAL

The Pardons Look More Sordid

The hearing yesterday before the House Committee on Government
Reform made it clearer than ever that President Clinton's
decision to pardon Marc Rich, the fugitive commodities trader,
was an inexcusable abuse of the president's absolute clemency
power. The hearings produced information ó unproven but
disturbing ó suggesting that Mr. Clinton may have discussed the
pardon with a Democratic fund-raiser and was aware of objections
to the pardon by White House lawyers. More Congressional
inquiries lie ahead. Based on the testimony yesterday they are
warranted, but Congress should avoid the temptation for endless
inquiry and reach an expeditious account of the interplay between
fund-raising and the pardons.

Whatever the outcome, Congress ought to remember that these
abuses by a particularly insensitive chief executive are not a
good reason to change the Constitution to curtail the president's
powers to grant pardons. The Rich case itself suggests that
future such abuses can best be avoided by pursuing meaningful
campaign finance reform and by tightening government ethics
rules.

Campaign finance reform, while not rendering bad presidential
judgments obsolete, would help address the root problem involved
in this and so many of the Clinton administration's other
scandals ó unequal access to the White House. Like those of
Michael Milken and others championed by wealthy Democratic
contributors, Marc Rich's pardon application was sent directly to
the White House and did not go through the usual Justice
Department channels. His former wife, Denise Rich, who invoked
her right not to incriminate herself in declining to testify
yesterday, wrote Mr. Clinton on behalf of the pardon application.
She also wrote big checks to the party, to Hillary Rodham
Clinton's Senate campaign and to the Clinton presidential
library. Strategic campaign donations were also made by other
pardon seekers.

The involvement in this case of Jack Quinn, the former White
House counsel, was equally unseemly, placing Mr. Clinton in a
terrible predicament. Mr. Quinn's feeble defense of the pardon's
merits has only fanned the outrage in recent weeks. His argument
that Mr. Rich was improperly charged with crimes in an
essentially civil matter should have been made in a court of law
two decades ago. The White House is not an alternative judicial
venue for fugitives.

A more scrupulous attorney would have recognized and avoided the
inherent conflict between his loyalty to the president
(essentially his former client), on the one hand, and his
obligation to Mr. Rich on the other. The most charitable way to
characterize Mr. Clinton's behavior in the case is to accept that
he also failed to recognize the conflict and assumed his former
lawyer was still in the business of providing him with
straightforward analysis on a legal matter, which he clearly did
not.

Mr. Quinn testified that he had advised Eric Holder, then the
deputy attorney general, that he was approaching the White House
on Mr. Rich's behalf, but that is no substitute for following the
rules other clemency seekers, who may not have donated a million
dollars or may not have hired the president's former lawyer, must
follow. For his part, Mr. Holder had no good explanation for his
failure to learn more about the merits of the Rich case from
prosecutors in New York before declaring his neutrality on the
issue. He simply said he did not pursue the matter because he
thought Mr. Rich's case was such a long shot on the merits.

Mr. Quinn violated the spirit of executive orders barring senior
White House aides from lobbying the government for five years
after leaving office, and clearly helped grease the pardon. As
Representative Christopher Shays, Republican of Connecticut,
said: "This is not a pardon problem as much as it is a
revolving-door problem."

Even at a time of heightened cynicism in Washington, it was
breathtaking to hear Mr. Quinn testify that he knew he did not
violate the Clinton administration's lobbying rules because he
wrote them and provided an exemption for communications
"regarding a judicial proceeding." This is a standard exception
to ethics rules that allows former government attorneys to oppose
the government in court, because that does not entail influencing
former colleagues. For a former White House counsel to rely on
this exception to press the president for a pardon takes an
unusual ethical insensitivity.

Mr. Clinton's irresponsibility was also breathtaking, and has
added millions of Democrats to the rolls of those who regard him
with bitter disappointment. The best way for Congress and the
Bush administration to prevent such outrages in the future is not
by tinkering with the Constitution but by following Justice
Department guidelines on pardons, tightening ethical rules and
passing campaign finance reform.




[CTRL] WSJ: Out-Foxing the Experts

2001-02-09 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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http://opinionjournal.com/diary/?id=85000566

JOHN FUND'S POLITICAL DIARY

Out-Foxing the Experts

Asking everyone tough questions doesn't make a network conservative.

Friday, February 9, 2001 12:01 a.m. EST

Cable news now is a three-ring circus, with CNN, Fox News Channel
and MSNBC all jostling for an advantage. The latest news is that
during the past two months Fox's ratings have risen to the point
that in the 45 million homes that receive all three networks, Fox
is No. 1.

This intense ratings war means that folks at every network snipe
at their competitors so that it's often hard to sort fact from
spin. I've defended CNN against charges it was the Clinton News
Network, although insiders there admit the network is now less
biased since it let Rick Kaplan (a friend of Bill) go as
president last summer. I've dismissed complaints that MSNBC is
putting celebrity profiles and crime stories in its prime-time
hours. Why let the vast film archives of NBC go to waste, and who
says each network has to have the same type of programming during
slow news cycles?

Recent increases in ratings for Fox News have rekindled old
allegations that the network is nothing more than a right-wing
propaganda hobbyhorse run by Rupert Murdoch. Alan Dershowitz, the
liberal Harvard Law professor, refuses to be interviewed by Fox
News. The Village Voice claims that Fox employs conservative
"extreme rhetoricians" such as Dick Morris and me. (Until
recently, I was a Fox News political analyst.) Funny, during the
last Fox show on which I appeared with Mr. Morris, he criticized
me for attacking Bill Clinton's policy record. He argued that
while Mr. Clinton had perjured himself, "as president, he has
been a raving success."

TV critics also love to point out that Roger Ailes, president of
Fox News, used to work for GOP candidates and Tony Snow, the host
of "Fox News Sunday," worked in the Bush White House a decade
ago. They seldom mention that CNN honcho Tom Johnson worked in
Lyndon Johnson's White House, that CNN's Jeff Greenfield was a
speechwriter for Robert Kennedy, or that NBC's Tim Russert worked
for both Pat Moynihan and Mario Cuomo.

Recently, suspicions that Fox is an aid-and-comfort station for
Republicans were fueled by an article in The New Yorker that
darkly hinted that Fox's premature call of Florida on election
night may have been influenced by the relation between John
Ellis, the head of Fox's decision desk, and his first cousin
George W. Bush. Liberals promptly claimed that Fox had stampeded
other networks into calling Florida for Mr. Bush at 2:15 a.m.,
thus giving him an aura of legitimacy as the victor.

Mr. Ellis gave some foolish quotes to The New Yorker in which he
bragged about swapping insights about the exit polls with his
Bush cousins on election night. It would have been better if Mr.
Ellis had been merely a consultant without a decision-making
role. But an internal report from the Voter News Service, the
consortium that collected all the exit-poll data, found no
evidence that Fox had jumped the gun in its election calls.

Indeed, an exhaustive analysis of the controversy in the latest
issue of Brill's Content concludes that "Ellis had no control
over the VNS numbers that showed it was 99.9% definite that Gore
would lose." The magazine interviewed Warren Mitofsky, the
founder of VNS and an election-night analyst for CNN and CBS, who
said that "this business about Fox pressuring other people to
call, I never made a projection in my life because of some other
network. . . . We were about to make the projection."



There is no question that Fox gives conservatives at least equal
time and often reports stories--such as Jesse Jackson's curious
finances or the missing e-mails at the Clinton White House--that
other networks ignore. But if Fox appears to be further to the
right, it is precisely because other cable outlets have given
short shrift to conservatives and their views. I'm sure there
have been times when Fox spent less time on GOP scandals than
other networks, but it also was the very first network to report
details of George W. Bush's hidden DUI incident last November.

Fox News Channel's prime-time talk shows, which are combative and
can draw blood, are the basis for much of its conservative
reputation in media circles. But they are balanced by a lot of
straight news reporting during the day and the more sober tones
of "Special Report With Brit Hume," which is now bringing in an
astonishing 800,000 households a night in its two non-prime-time
showings (6 p.m. and midnight Eastern time).

Even the prime-time talk-show lineup isn't what it's portrayed to
be. I can testify having been a guest on his show that Bill
O'Reilly, the host of the top-rated "O'Reilly Factor," is no
conservative. He's a populist troublemaker. He favors gun
control, supports many environmental restrictions, backs the
McCain-Feingold campaign-finance bill, wants a patient's bill of
rights and is against the death 

[CTRL] Clinton Pardons

2001-02-09 Thread Steve Lacy

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Anyone have a link to a website listing all the Clinton Pardons?
thanks

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[CTRL] Book Review: Marc Rich and the 10-Billion-Dollar Scam

2001-02-09 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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From a review at:

http://www.pir.org/books60.html


Metal Men: Marc Rich and the 10-Billion-Dollar Scam.


New York: Harper  Row (Perennial Library), 1986. 224 pages.


Marc Rich started as a "metal man," a specialized form of
commodity trading that deals in mineral resources.

Of the eighty natural metals in the earth, forty are of
industrial importance, and are bought and sold on the open market
by traders.

Innocent investors speculate on price fluctuations, while the
metal men -- known for their wheeling and dealing -- might bribe
foreign officials, start market rumors, or play tricks on other
traders.

Marc Rich did all of the above and more, and made $10 billion in
the process. He started in 1954 at Philipp Brothers Trading, and
by the 1970s was making huge profits for them by venturing into
the spot oil market. At the end of 1973 he and Pincus (Pinky)
Green left to form their own empire.

They hired away some of Philipp Brothers' more aggressive traders
-- the young high- rollers who thrived on cocaine and casual sex
in the fast lane. Operating from New York, London, and
Switzerland, Rich was in a league where one country is played off
against another, with shadowy deals washed through Panamanian
shell companies and dripped into off-shore banks.

In the early 1980s, the U.S. went after Rich for tax evasion and
oil-pricing scams. But as of 1994, he was living comfortably in
Zug, Switzerland, where he is so important to the local economy
that the Swiss legal system still refuses to extradite him.


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[CTRL] Ukranian newsgroup: Alumina Russian Mafia American Politicians (Marc Rich)

2001-02-09 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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[Another trail to pursue?: "...the Kislins are quite generous
donors to American politicians."]

http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:www.mailgate.org/soc/soc.culture.ukrain
ian/msg06020.html+%22marc+rich%22,+fbihl=en


Newsgroups: soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.usa
From: Stefan Lemieszewski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Alumina  Russian Mafia  American Politicians - Kislin -Chorny -
Public-i -1Dec99
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 11:22:29 -0800
Organization: Look Communications - http://www.look.ca


Further to Ukraine's privatization of ZAP (Zaporizhia Alumina
Plant) and MAP (Mykolaiv Alumina Plant) and their ties to
organized crime figures, fugitives such as Marc Rich, and
mob-linked businessmen such as Chorny (Chornoi; Chorney;
Chornoy), Knut Royce from the Center for Public Integrity
provides additional links between the Russian mafia and American
politicians.

Readers have previously encountered the Brighton Beach Russian
Mafia Don, Vyacheslav "Yaponchik" Ivankov. Less known is
Ivankov's gang "member/associate" Semyon (Sam) Kislin, an
immigrant from Odesa, Ukraine who is well known among the Russian
Jewish community in South Brooklyn.  According to FBI reports,
Kislin's New York commodities firm laundering millions of dollars
and Kislin himself co-sponsored a U.S. visa for Anton Malevsky (a
contract killer and head of one of the most bloodthirsty Mafiya
familias, Moscow's Izmaylovo gang).

Knut Royce writes:

"A 1996 Interpol report claims that Kislin’s firm, Trans
Commodities, Inc., was used by two reputed mobsters from
Uzbekistan, Lev and Mikhail Chernoy, for fraud and embezzlement.
And a confidential 1994 FBI intelligence report on the Brooklyn,
N.Y., mob organization headed by Vyacheslav Ivankov, the
imprisoned godfather of Russian organized crime in the United
States, lists Kislin as a “member/associate’’ of Ivankov’s gang.

It claims that his company co-sponsored a Russian crime boss and
contract killer for a U.S. visa and asserts that he was a “close
associate” of the late notorious arms smuggler Babeck Seroush,
who later settled in Russia."

[ . . . ]

Because nothing critical of Kislin has appeared in the U.S.
press, New Yorkers, especially politicians and the Russian-Jewish
émigré community in Brooklyn, view him as a prosperous
commodities trader who is a generous supporter of the United
Jewish Appeal and of the state of Israel. He has contributed
hundreds of thousands of dollars to the UJA, according to
published accounts, and donated $1.5 million to build a college
library in Sha’ar Hanegev in Israel.

But in Russia some of the major newspapers, including Rossiyskaya
Gazeta, which is owned by the government, have cast him in a
darker light. Gazeta claims that Semyon Kislin and the Chernoy
brothers formed Trans Commodities in 1990 as an early vehicle for
the takeover of the metals industry as it was being privatized.

[ . . . ]

According to Russian authorities, the Chernoys in the early 1990s
defrauded the Russian Central Bank of more than $100 million
through an elaborate scam involving dozens of fictitious
companies. The brothers then used the funds as seed money as they
and a London-based holding company, Trans World Group, through a
maze of offshore companies and alliances, rapidly gained control
of Russia’s aluminum industry and acquired a large stake in the
processing and distribution of other metals and petroleum
products.

Kislin said Mikhail Chernoy tried to enlist him as “cover” or
“legitimate front” in the plan to grab control of the aluminum
industry, but that he declined. “I said is not for me,’’ Kislin
said. “I cannot do with aluminum because aluminum is a very
dangerous business (in Russia).’’ Indeed, what followed has been
dubbed “The Aluminum Wars’’ by the Russian press, as many
businessmen, most of whom opposed the Chernoy takeover, were
killed.

Kislin said that the brothers obtained licenses “to buy the
aluminum for $10 and sell it for $1,500” by bribing top Russian
officials. “The corruption is unbelievable,’’ he said.


Royce also points out that the Kislins are quite generous donors
to American politicians.

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[CTRL] Federation of American Scientists: Rich/BCCI (fwd)

2001-02-09 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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-- Forwarded message --
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 00:12:26 -0800
From: Scott Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Federation of American Scientists: Rich/BCCI

From:

http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/1992_rpt/bcci/01exec.htm

Unanswered questions include, but are not limited to, the
relationship between BCCI and the Banco Nazionale del Lavoro; the
alleged relationship between the late CIA director William Casey
and BCCI; the extent of BCCI's involvement in Pakistan's nuclear
program; BCCI's manipulation of commodities and securities
markets in Europe and Canada; BCCI's activities in India,
including its relationship with the business empire of the
Hinduja family; BCCI's relationships with convicted Iraqi arms
dealer Sarkis Sarkenalian, Syrian drug trafficker, terrorist, and
arms trafficker Monzer Al-Kassar, and other major arms dealers;
the use of BCCI by central figures in the alleged "October
Surprise," BCCI's activities with the Central Bank of Syria and
with the Foreign Trade Mission of the Soviet Union in London; its
involvement with foreign intelligence agencies; the financial
dealingst of BCCI directors with Charles Keating and several
Keating affiliates and front-companies, including the possibility
that BCCI related entities may have laundered funds for Keating
to move them outside the United States; BCCI's financing of
commodities and other business dealings of international criminal
financier Marc Rich; the nature, extent and meaning of the
ownership of other major U.S. financial institutions by Middle
Eastern political figures; the nature, extent, and meaning of
real estate and financial investments in the United States by
major shareholders of BCCI; the sale of BCCI affiliate Banque de
Commerce et Placement in Geneva, to the Cukorova Group of Turkey,
which owned an entity involved in the BNL Iraqi arms sales, among
others.


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P.O. Box 6061-350, Sherman Oaks, CA 91413
(818) 788-8791  (818) 981-2847 fax
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February 9, 2001

Rita Wilde, Program Director
Bill Sommers, Gen. Mgr.
KLOS FM
3321 South La Cienega Blvd.
L.A., CA 90016

Re: Unprofessional and Libelous Conduct of Frank Sontag

Dear Ms. Wilde and Mr. Sommers:

I am an L.A. resident and lifelong listener of KLOS. I am also the publisher
of the newsletter From The Wilderness (FTW) which covers illegal CIA covert
operations, the drug trade, regional conflicts and related topics. FTW is
read in 15 countries around the world. I include among my subscribers
professors at eleven universities in the U.S., Canada and Great Britain and
the intelligence committees of both houses of congress. I also include among
my subscribers 14 members of Congress including local representatives, Henry
Waxman, Brad Sherman and Maxine Waters. I have lectured at nine universities
including UCLA, UC - Berkeley and the University of Southern California on
Dec. 8, 2000.

I encourage you to visit my web site at www.copvcia.com to verify these
statements.

I am a regular guest on talk-radio programs around the country and have done
more than 200 such interviews, many on major stations such as WLS, KOA,
WBAI, WOL/B, KPFK and Westwood One in the last five years. I was a one-hour
in-studio guest on the Michael Jackson show (Tom Likus subbing) at KABC in
December, 1996.

I am writing to bring to your attention some of the most unprofessional and
hateful conduct I have ever seen in my life. It certainly is conduct beneath
the standards of any professional journalist or broadcaster and I hope it is
something that is neither sanctioned nor directed by KLOS Management.

Before describing to you the specific events that have prompted me to write
I should advise you that I have had one previous contact with Frank Sontag
in late 1996 or early 1997. He called and asked me to prepare and rush a
package of documents supporting my assertions that CIA was involved in the
drug trade to the station in preparation for an interview. I did exactly as
he asked but never heard another word from him. I have had no other
conversations with him in the intervening years.

The current situation arose when one of my subscribers, Marces Garcia,
e-mailed Mr, Sontag, suggesting that he have me as a guest on his show. In
his response Mr. Sontag wrote, "Michael Ruppert is a phony... Sorry to break
the news to you but a lot of his claims are absolute lies. Learn to think
for yourself! This man is a charlatan. - Frank"

Then he added, "If you don't believe me, I can prove it." This e-mail was
sent using a KLOS e-mail address. This last statement was a direct challenge
made by Mr. Sontag and, in spite of repeated requests, he has yet to make
good on that promise.

My subscriber defended me in the face of this vicious attack and Mr. Sontag
wrote back, "...Let's just say we have mutual friends."

I received a letter advising me of the above from Mr. Garcia on February 5.
I was absolutely stunned by the viciousness or Mr. Sontag's attack and I
immediately challenged him. [Copies of our e-mail correspondence are
included with this letter for your review]. In the past I had been contacted
by several local area subscribers who had indicated that Frank Sontag didn't
like me but I had no idea he was engaging in this kind of libelous,
malicious conduct.

In spite of repeated requests for him to challenge me or produce a single
shred of evidence that anything I have ever written is a lie or distortion
he has produced nothing but implied threats and intimidation. Further, I am
utterly shocked that a broadcaster at a station with the standards of KLOS,
ABC and Disney could resort to threats of publicly exposing the fact that I
am recovering alcoholic as a means of discrediting and intimidating me.

I have been a clean and sober member of Alcoholics Anonymous for 18 years. I
have served on the Board of Directors of the National Council on Alcoholism
for the San Fernando Valley and I have written more than 30 articles on the
subject for The U.S. Journal of Drug and Alcohol Dependence. For  Frank
Sontag to try to intimidate me with this information is about as politically
incorrect and unfathomably stupid as anything I have ever seen in my entire
life.

Yet he did this using a KLOS e-mail address immediately after confirming
that he made the earlier unfounded and malicious statements. What else has
he said over the years? 

[CTRL] WSJ: Pardon Recipient Says He Had Ties to Roger Clinton

2001-02-09 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

-Caveat Lector-

February 9, 2001

Politics  Policy

Pardon Recipient Says He Had Ties to Roger Clinton

By MATT MURRAY, ANDREW NIELAND and GARY FIELDS
Staff Reporters of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL


Insider connections appeared to play a role in many of Bill
Clinton's last-minute pardons, but none of the recipients are
known to have had a tie-in quite like Mitchell C.  Wood of
Sherwood, Ark.

When he was sentenced to four months in jail for conspiring to
distribute cocaine in 1986, Mr.  Wood told the federal judge that
he obtained cocaine from another man who Mr.  Clinton pardoned on
Jan.  20 -- the former president's half-brother, Roger Clinton.
In an interview Thursday, Mr.  Wood said he received the cocaine
for recreational use.

Also Thursday, a House committee opened hearings into Mr.
Clinton's decision to pardon fugitive billionaire Marc Rich in
dramatic fashion: Mr.  Rich's former wife asserted the Fifth
Amendment to avoid answering questions about lobbying for the
pardon, and the panel released documents indicating that Mr.
Clinton discussed overcoming resistance from White House lawyers
to the pardon with a top Democratic Party fund-raiser.

In the cocaine case, both Mr.  Wood and Roger Clinton became
entangled in a probe of cocaine use in Arkansas business circles
in the 1980s that resulted in guilty pleas from more than a dozen
individuals.  Roger Clinton, then serving prison time for
unrelated drug-dealing charges, gave testimony in some of those
cases.

Why Mr.  Wood was pardoned is a mystery.  An employee of the
Arkansas Department of Economic Development, he said he applied
to the Justice Department for a pardon without an attorney's help
several years ago and he hasn't "seen Roger in 15 years." Former
President Clinton, he added, "would not have any idea who I was."
At least one other figure convicted in the investigation, George
E.  "Butch" Locke, also sought a pardon but was denied.  "I
thought when Roger got his, I'd probably get mine," said Mr.
Locke, a former Arkansas state senator.

Roger Clinton couldn't be reached, and a spokeswoman for the
former president declined to comment.

Meanwhile, the House Government Reform Committee heard a
contentious day of testimony about the pardon of Mr.  Rich and
his business partner Pincus Green.  Both Republicans and
Democrats denounced the decision as an improper use of a sacred
constitutional power engineered by a former White House lawyer
hired by Mr.  Rich, Jack Quinn.

Denise Rich, Mr.  Rich's former wife, refused to answer 14
written questions, telling the panel through a letter from her
lawyer that she was "asserting her privilege under the Fifth
Amendment of the United States Constitution not to be a witness
against herself." Ms.  Rich has raised and donated millions of
dollars for Democrats since 1993, becoming friendly with the
Clinton family.  A lawyer for Ms.  Rich told the panel that Ms.
Rich also gave "enormous sums" to Mr. Clinton's presidential
library.  Though estranged from her husband, Ms. Rich asked the
president to support the pardon three times.

The committee had asked Ms.  Rich whether she had been illegally
reimbursed for political donations and whether she or her family
might benefit financially for supporting the pardon.  Lawyers for
her have previously denied she was paid to lobby for the pardon.
The committee plans to subpoena Ms.  Rich's bank records and the
presidential library's donor lists and may ask the Justice
Department to support granting Ms.  Rich immunity to compel her
testimony.

The committee released a Jan.  10 e-mail from a Marc Rich
employee to Mr. Quinn indicating that Mr.  Clinton spoke about
the Rich pardon with Beth Dozoretz, the former Democratic Party
finance committee chairwoman.  The employee told Mr.  Quinn he
heard of the conversation from Ms.  Rich, who heard of it from
Ms.  Dozoretz, a friend.  According to the e-mail, Mr.  Clinton
told Ms.  Dozoretz that he supported the request and was "doing
all possible to turn around the WH counsels."

Former Deputy Attorney General Eric Holder confirmed that he
didn't take a strong stand on the pardon, even in the face of
clear indications that federal prosecutors in New York would
oppose it.

Mr.  Holder said he told the White House's top lawyer that he was
"neutral, leaning towards" the pardon, but only if foreign-policy
benefits could be reaped by virtue of the fact that Israeli Prime
Minister Ehud Barak had lobbied the president for it.  "Knowing
everything that I know now, I would not have recommended to the
president that he pardon" Mr.  Rich, he said.

Under hostile questioning, Mr.  Holder confirmed speaking to Mr.
Quinn -- a close confidant of former Vice President Al Gore --
about becoming attorney general in a Gore administration.  But
Mr.  Holder denied that desire influenced his actions.

Meanwhile, Pennsylvania Republican Sen.  Arlen Specter asked
colleagues to support a constitutional amendment allowing
Congress to overturn pardons.


[CTRL] WSJ: CLINTON'S PARDON of a former Bob Dole political aide raises eyebrows

2001-02-09 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

-Caveat Lector-

February 9, 2001
Wall Street Journal

Washington Wire

CLINTON'S PARDON of a former Bob Dole political aide raises eyebrows.

David Owen was forced from the Dole operation in 1988 over
questionable financial deals for Elizabeth Dole.  He later served
prison time on an unrelated tax charge.  During Dole's 1996
presidential campaign against Clinton, Owen told reporters Dole
knew more about the financial deals for Mrs.  Dole than he had
admitted.

Owen hired longtime Clinton friend James Hamilton to shepherd his
pardon through the Justice Department and White House.  "If this
pardon is some sort of payback for those ridiculous allegations,
Bill Clinton didn't get his money's worth because Owen never put
a dent in Bob Dole's integrity," says former Dole spokesman
Nelson Warfield.

Hamilton says Owen's 1996 statements had nothing to do with the
pardon, which he deserved because of charitable work.

LOTT'S STAR RISES as the Senate leader gets Bush's ear.

The Mississippi Republican played an essential role in persuading
the White House to back making Bush's tax cut retroactive.  He
pushed for the administration to take on Arizona Sen.  McCain on
the popular patients' bill-of-rights issue, GOP aides say.  The
White House also agrees to let Lott handle negotiations with
McCain over details of campaign-finance overhaul.

Lott is in frequent contact with Bush, Cheney and White House
staff chief Andrew Card.  The president picks Lott's policy guru
Jack Howard for a top post in the White House liaison shop.  But
some Republicans still wonder if Lott is up to the task of
leading a 50-50 Senate, and several eye his job if he fails.

DON'T BEAT UP on WTO protesters, U.S.  and European officials
warn Qatar.

They fear the undemocratic emirate might turn protests at
November's World Trade Organization meeting there into another
public-relations disaster.  "We've been telling Qatar there are
certain lines they cannot cross," one U.S.  official says.  The
European Commission's Carlo Trojan writes a letter to his Qatar
counterpart to "highlight the importance" of fair access.

EU trade minister Pascal Lamy says the Qatar government has
promised to treat protesters with the "highest standards."
Meantime, protesters discuss how to infiltrate the tiny Mideast
enclave, where many trade envoys will stay on ships because
hotels are booked.

One option: Greenpeace protesters could launch a marine assault.

QUAYLE SURFACES as a potential candidate for Bush administration
posts. One transition adviser says the former vice president
wants to be ambassador to NATO, but faces Pentagon resistance.
Others say he is discussed for ambassador to China.  Or he could
follow the Mondale precedent as ambassador to Japan.

DALEY DOUBLE?  William Daley, Gore's campaign chief and a former
commerce secretary, mulls a run for Illinois governor.  Some
Democrats wonder how voters would accept a second Daley whose
brother Richard already is mayor of Chicago.  Daley meantime
considers job offers in New York, Chicago and Washington.

BUSINESS LEADERS are wooed to join the drive for campaign-finance
overhaul.  Berkshire Hathaway CEO Warren Buffett agrees to
promote the bill by Sens.  McCain and Feingold.  After a town
meeting Monday in Chicago, the senators will go to a gathering
hosted by Shorebank Chairman Ronald Grzywinski.

EXTINCT NAME: The FBI drops the name Carnivore for its Internet
surveillance system for fear it makes the system sound like a
predatory one that violates people's privacy.  Its new handle:
DCS1000, the Digital Collection System.

POWELL PLANS to break tradition at the State Department by
opening a liaison office on Capitol Hill like the military
services have.  The department has frowned on such offices
because diplomats might get too cozy with Congress.  Powell aims
to improve relations and get more funds.

CLEAN SLATE: Bush may get to replace most FCC commissioners.

Republican Michael Powell has moved up to Federal Communications
Commission chairman, but the four other members may be gone by
year's end.  Michael Copps, a former aide to South Carolina Sen.
Hollings, is a front-runner for one of two Democratic slots.
Texas Public Utility Commission head Pat Wood is expected to get
a GOP slot.

Meantime, antitrust experts raise questions about a Dallas
lawyer, Robert Jordan, who emerged late last week as a candidate
for Justice Department antitrust chief.  Jordan has close ties to
Bush, having successfully defended him against 1992
insider-trading charges.  But he is little known among antitrust
enforcers.

An American Bar Association report warns against appointing
inexperienced lawyers to the antitrust post.

MINOR MEMOS: Comic Howard Mortman foresees the Bush tax-cut fever
spreading to TV's "Survivor" show: Instead of competing for cash,
"the winner gets lower marginal rates." ...  Comedian Bill Maher,
doing his "Politically Incorrect" TV show from Washington this
week, says, "I was gonna be in town anyway to 

[CTRL] Fwd: GOP News Views - February 9, 2001

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Paying Off the Debt

Two weeks ago, I checked into the Ohana Reef Towers hotel in Waikiki, Hawaii
for a little RR and a somewhat curtailed work schedule.  The first thing I
did was unplug the TV, and turned it back on only once ... to watch ABC's
"Stossel Goes to Washington."  So for two weeks, I was mercifully ignorant
of the "hot topics" the chattering class of talking head pundits were
chattering about.  Alas, all good things come to an end ... and the boob
tube is back in my daily routine.  And it seems the Democrats (who, I
believe, are still being "bipartisan", aren't they?) are in high dudgeon
over tax cuts, calling it a moral imperative to retire the country's debt
first.

Now, I know I've been out of the loop for a while ... and this is gonna
sound pretty crazy ... but why aren't the Republicans seizing on this
opportunity to have their cake and eat it too?  We have an alleged budget
surplus, so let's give at least some of it back to the taxpayers.  Fine.
Now, you want debt relief, too?  OK.  Let's cut the Commerce Department and
earmark EVERY DIME saved to debt reduction.  Same for the Energy Department.
And how about the National Endowment for the Arts?  Republicans could turn
this whole debt reduction argument of the Democrats right back on them as
the reason for dramatically cutting back a government which, as Ronald
Reagan used to say, is still too big and still costs too much.

Gosh, what the heck have I been smoking?

- Chuck Muth, Editor

**
Too Little, Too Late?

"We hate to be a spoilsport, just when President Bush's tax cut is gaining
momentum.  But someone has to point out the emerging danger that whatever
passes Congress could be too small and especially too slow.  We're referring
to the fact, not well understood, that if passed as written the Bush
proposal would be phased in over eight long years.  That's right.  The
proposal that liberals have been denouncing as gargantuan might not be fully
realized until 2009, or at the start of JEB Bush's first presidential term.
(Just kidding.)"

- Wall Street Journal editorial, 2/8/01

***
Mr. President, Tear Down This Barricade!

"The Secret Service, the agency charged with the primary security of the
president, persuaded Bill Clinton that it was necessary to barricade the
avenue in front of the White House in the aftermath of the attack on a
federal building in Oklahoma. ... The (shooting) incident yesterday did not
happen on Pennsylvania Avenue, or even near it, but on the opposite side of
the White House, facing the National Mall and the Washington Monument.
Closing the avenue did not deter this gunman.  The Bush administration, like
the president's party, has pledged to reopen Pennsylvania Avenue, as have
members of Congress of both parties. The avenue should never have been
closed, and indeed it may well be that the barricading of the avenue has
made the White House a more attractive and challenging target to the bad,
the ugly and the deranged among us.

"The Secret Service stands alone in its zeal to keep the avenue closed and
to keep the White House barricaded as if it were a dictator's palace in
Pyongyang, Havana or Port-au-Prince. There is no overestimating the
symbolism of an unbarricaded White House in a free America. ... The incident
yesterday must not be allowed to become another excuse to keep Pennsylvania
Avenue closed to the people who paid for it. All that remains to reopen the
avenue is for President Bush, dedicated as he is to an open government, to
listen to his own instincts and give the word to the Secret Service to clear
the people's avenue."

- Washington Times editorial, 2/8/01


"Pardon-gate" Keeps Getting Worse

"Bill Clinton granted 47 last-minute pardons without applications first
being fully examined by the Justice Department's pardon attorney's office,
the Los Angeles Times reports. That's nearly twice as many as the two dozen
originally reported."

- OpinionJournal.com, 2/8/01


Bonnie  Clod Return Some Stolen Loot

"Bill and Hillary Rodham Clinton returned about $28,000 worth of sofas,
lamps, a needlepoint rug and other furnishings Wednesday because of
questions about whether the gifts were meant for them or the permanent White
House collection."

- Associated Press, 2/8/01

**
Ex-Prez Hitting Rocky (White)Waters

"Meanwhile, in Boca Raton, Mr. Clinton was supposed to kick off his
post-presidential run on the gravy train - sorry, lecture circuit - with an
easy, $100,000 speech at a Morgan Stanley Dean Witter convention. Turns out
nothing's easy. As the Wall Street Journal reported, the investment
company's 13,000 representatives had to be prepped with a scripted attempt

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] FWD:Re: Unprofessional and Libelous Conduct of Frank Sontag

2001-02-09 Thread Aleisha Saba

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Hey that AA sounds like a fun bunch - how do you join?

As for me I am recovering from 8 years of Clinton as President - any
clubs for that?

Give me my tax breaks and what the hell do I care.

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Re: [CTRL] Ukranian newsgroup: Alumina Russian Mafia American Politicians (Marc Rich)

2001-02-09 Thread Aleisha Saba

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Bill Cosby's son was alleged to have been murdred by Russian
Mafianote the kid was driving home lane one night, in a green
Mercedes, and had tire trouble...his assassin was virtually waiting
for him and later you see this trashy looking woman with a fur coat up
over her knees who looked like something out of your local cat
house.

So then it comes out Bill Cosby had illegitimate daughter - and Cosby
was oh so silent re the death of his son, whom he stated, was "his hero"
and put in charge a kid named Caputo as head of some kind of a
remembrance committeenow Caputo is an old mob in in Youngstown, Ohio
area - Moosey Caputo

But NBC seems infested with drug dealing and drug users, and as of late
many murders - and then we had Marv Allen.this guy I iked who was
just murdered by his wife, at peak of his career - all drug related
stuffand yet, nobody does anything about from whence these drugs
come?

Was Cosby's kid in on drugs?   Seems as though he had some pretty trashy
friends.and this woman, a white woman - who looked something like
one would expect to find in your local SoHo district - what is giong on?

Clintons brother drug dealer in cocaine and Clinton selling polluted
blood from homosexuals, tc. in prison stricken with HIV to
Canadiansif your kid had gotten some of othat blood what would you
do?

Me, I would form a vigilante group - for as they say in Romans 12 -
vengance is mine?   For aren't we all insruments in God's hand to do his
work?

What is going on here that Jesse Jackson was so desperate Gore get into
office he threatens the American people and George Bush.this thief,
this self ordained preacher - this common criminal - ever wonder who
writes his speeches?Off the cuff, the man is like street person in
his $1,400 suits paid for by the poor.

Or stolen perhaps with money from feds?
How much did Gore pay NAACP and Jesse and Sharpton to support gun laws
and bring in street people to vote for a cigarette pack?

Hope a lot comes from this election - but at least we got the garbage
out of the Oval Officeand I hope the Great Eagle Challenger, the one
who bit Clinton, is okayfor that great bird knew, the enemy was
within.

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[CTRL] Mind Control White House Gunman -Press

2001-02-09 Thread DIG alfred webre

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From Mind Control-L:
Thank you for the pattern-facts (below) that the White House gunman
 was acting on mind control: including his prior West Point attendance,
 and feeling no pain, even when knee was shattered by bullet.

 FYI, I have been in email contact with the director of a mainstream
 e-list for reporters to which I belong and contribute. The e-list
 coordinator has prohibited all further posts on the mind control aspects
 of the story.  The mainstream press and individual reporters have a
 strong demonstrated bias against reporting mind-control aspects of
 events, even when they involve the Presidential level.

 If you at all think that the USA has a free press, you are in delusion.
 From my direct experience on this issue, US reporters, as demonstrated
 on line, are against the reporting of any mind control aspects to an
 attack against the  President.  My observation is that their bias is based
on (1) deliberate  denial (2) careerism (3) collusion with the mind control
system and its  executives.

 Have you, anywhere in the mainstream press, encountered serious
 discussion of the mind control aspects of the White House gunman?

 Alfred Webre
 EcoNews Service
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  Yesterday, CNN or Fox News revealed that Pickett attended West Point
  military academy from 1970-71 and later was in the Air Force. There are
  a
  number of
  reports of mind control associated with West Point. See
  http://www.sightings.com/political/glennmindcontrol.htm for example, and
  see
 
 
http://www.google.com/search?as_q=%22mind+control%22num=10btnG=Google+Sear
 
 
chas_oq=as_epq=west+pointas_eq=as_occt=anylr=as_dt=ias_sitesearch=sa
 
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  The most telling thing was his non-reaction to pain, which strongly
  suggests
  a post-hypnotic suggestion or powerful self-administered narcotic.
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[CTRL] [radtimes] # 152

2001-02-09 Thread radman

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[radtimes] # 152

An informally produced compendium of vital irregularities.

"We're living in rad times!"
---
How to assist RadTimes-- (See ** at end.)
---
Contents:

--Fears of insurance no-go zones as global warming claims rise
--New Mafias Go Global
--War On Drugs Targets Tech
--Global warming to cost $300 bln a year - UN report
--Australian scientist horrified at human clone plan
--Newspaper studies confirm Democrat Gore won Florida vote
--Forgotten Founding Father

===

Fears of insurance no-go zones as global warming claims rise

http://www.guardianunlimited.co.uk/globalwarming/story/0,7369,432870,00.html

Special report: global warming

by Paul Brown, environment correspondent
Saturday February 3, 2001
The Guardian

The insurance bill for extreme weather events and rising sea levels is set
to increase tenfold - from 20bn a year to 200bn a year by 2050 - making
parts of the world uninsurable, the world's leading insurers have warned.
"Climatic changes could trigger worldwide losses totalling many hundreds of
billions of dollars a year," Dr Gerhard Berz, head of research for the
largest re-insurance company in the world, Munich Re, told the United
Nations' Environment Programme (Unep) in Nairobi. "The burden of claims
resulting from so-called natural catastrophes has already taken on dramatic
dimensions.
"There is mounting evidence of increasing frequency and intensity of
natural catastrophes. Major windstorms set new loss records almost
annually, while innumerable flood, tempest, drought and forest fire
emergencies now seem to occur more frequently than ever before."
Losses caused by the weather in the 1960s totalled 30bn (in today's
prices); in the 1990s that figure rose to 250bn. But as greenhouse gas
pollution increases, the bill is set to rise more dramatically, to 200bn
per year by 2050.
More than 100 environment ministers, including Britain's Michael Meacher,
are meeting in Nairobi on Monday to discuss climate change.
Dr Berz fears the losses will bankrupt parts of the industry and wants
government action to halt climate change.  "There is reason to fear that
climatic change in nearly all regions of the Earth will lead to natural
catastrophes of hitherto unknown force and frequency," he said.  "Assessing
these developments could jeopardise the future of entire industries in some
regions."
Before 1987, only one hurricane - Alicia in Texas in 1983 - cost 1bn in
claims.  Since then, 29 have cost that much.
Munich Re's estimates are based on predictions by the Intergovernmental
Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) that carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere
will double by 2050.
The IPCC's previous report in 1996 saw no link between global warming and
the increased frequency and intensity of extreme atmospheric events, Dr
Berz said, but studies and simulations since have provided new evidence.
Dr Berz is particularly concerned about the effect on Europe where he says
the pattern of insurance losses shows that climate change has already
begun.  Flooding on the Rhine in December 1993 and January 1995, and in
England in 2000 are examples. Ever more frequent and heavier downpours are
predicted.
"These milder winters have also reduced the extent of snow-covered areas
above which stable, high-pressure zones of cold used to form, creating a
barrier against low-pressure storm fronts approaching from the Atlantic,"
said Dr Berz. "So this barrier is often weak or has shifted far to the
east. German wind records indicate a marked increase in the number of
windstorm days in recent decades."
He says annual losses from a rise in sea level and flooding in low-level
islands such as the Maldives, the Marshall Islands and the Federated States
of Micronesia in the Pacific would exceed 10% of their GDP by 2050.
Klaus Toepfer, executive director of Unep, said the report was of great
concern.  Unep is working on a vulnerability index to warn governments
which of their countries are most likely to be hit by extreme events,
causing loss of life and property.
"The time to act is now," Mr Toepfer said.  "The world has already signed
up to a certain level of human induced climate change as a result of over a
century of industrial emissions. We must help vulnerable areas of the
world, primarily in the developing world, to adapt to the consequences of
global warming."
Countries such as the US would lose 5bn a year because of damage to
agriculture, while the EU would stand to lose up to 6bn.
The cost of premature death due to rising numbers of heatwaves is put at
14bn a year within the EU and 11bn in the US.  Worldwide, the cost of
premature death caused by heatwaves is put at 50bn.


[CTRL] Guess Who Is Watching Your Children...

2001-02-09 Thread Agent Starling




Guess Who Is Watching Your Children...


Biggest cyber-rights story of 2001? The Pentagon studies 
the Web surfing habits of kids OPINIONBy Brock N. 
MeeksMSNBC WASHINGTON, Jan. 30  The Pentagon is right now 
trolling a database of the Web surfing habits of children. No one knows why  
yet. But the Electronic Privacy Information Center is on a mission to find out. 
The privacy group has filed a Freedom of Information Act request to ferret out 
the answers and just might kick in the door of the biggest cyber-rights story of 
the year. http://www.msnbc.com/news/524057.asp

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[CTRL] Bush Pats Corporations, Pads Rich Pockets

2001-02-09 Thread Steve Wingate

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Published February 7 - 13, 2001
villagevoice.com exclusive


Oops, Says Prez. Let's Keep That AIDS Office

Bush Pats Corporations, Pads Rich Pockets
 by James Ridgeway


WASHINGTON, D.C., FEBRUARY 9—President George W. Bush and his
Cabinet spent the week unpacking the trunk of proposals they lugged to the
White House.

Taxes: Bush sent his 10-year, $1.6 trillion tax cut plan to an enthusiastic
Congress. Under the Bush scheme, the existing five tax brackets would be
cut to four, and today's rates of 15 to 39.6 percent would drop to 10 percent
to 33 percent. The president wants to expand child care credits, repeal the
estate tax, and ease the marriage penalty. The White House claims the
average tax cut for a family of four under the president's plan would be
$1600 a year.

Bush says he wants the tax cuts made retroactive to January 1, which he
believes would help stave off the looming recession. "We need tax relief
now," Bush said. "In fact, we need tax relief yesterday."

Critics say the tax cut's promise of relief for all is a mirage. An analysis by
Citizens for Tax Justice, a Washington public interest group, states the
bottom 40 percent of tax filers would receive just four percent of the cuts.
The average reduction for this group would be $115. The bottom 60
percent of filers would receive a mere 13 percent of the tax cuts, receiving
an average of $227 each. The bottom 80 percent of taxpayers would
receive only 29 percent of the tax cuts.

"Nearly one in every three U.S. families—would not receive any assistance
from the tax provisions that President Bush is likely to send to Congress on
February 8."

By contrast, the wealthiest 1 percent of Americans would receive 43
percent of the total tax cuts, receiving an average tax cut of $46,000 each.
The top five percent of filers would garner a little more than half of the tax
cuts.

Others point out abolition of the estate tax, which Clinton vetoed last year,
would reward only the very rich. Mark Weisbrot of the Center for Economic
and Policy Research argues: "Two-thirds of this tax is paid by the richest
two-tenths of 1 percent of all taxpayers."

The Center for Budget and Policy Priorities, a liberal think tank, says:
"About 12 million low- and moderate-income families with children—nearly
one in every three U.S. families—would not receive any assistance from
the tax provisions that President Bush is likely to send to Congress on
February 8. An estimated 24 million children under age 18—one in every
three children—live in these families."

Mexican Trucks: Ten days before the president's trip to Mexico, the Bush
administration announced it was reversing Clinton policy and, adhering to a
NAFTA ruling, would allow Mexican trucks to haul goods throughout the
U.S. Mexican drivers make one quarter as much as American drivers,
which makes unions fear the loss of jobs. In addition, questions have been
raised about the safety of Mexican trucks. More than 40 percent of the rigs
have failed U.S. inspections at the border.

Patients' Bill of Rights: In a letter to congressional leaders, Bush endorsed
the patient's limited right to sue managed-care insurance carriers in certain
instances. Congress should establish a "reasonable cap on damages," he
said, but didn't specify what that limit should be. Bush objected to the
bipartisan bill sponsored by senators John McCain and Ted Kennedy. That
legislation allows some lawsuits in federal court, others in state court, and
has no cap on damages.

Federal Communications Commission: In his first public pronouncements
since taking office, Michael Powell, the new chairman of the FCC and son
of Secretary of State Colin Powell, provided a glimpse of administration
policy in the telecommunications area when he enthusiastically supported
deregulation as "a critical ingredient for facilitating competition." The new
Republican chairman indicated he wasn't worried about soaring cable TV
rates, and didn't care about the so-called digital divide—the disparity
between rich and poor in gaining access to computers and the Internet. He
also said he was skeptical about requiring telecom giants like AOL Time
Warner to open their wires to competing carriers.

AIDS: In a mix-up Wednesday, the Bush administration first announced the
closing of the White House office on AIDS and race relations, created by
Clinton; then, amidst a firestorm of criticism, the new regime changed its
mind, promising to keep the office open. "We're concerned about AIDS
inside our White House, make no mistake about it," Bush declared.

Airlines Strike: In hopes of fending off a strike, Bush waded into what could
become a nightmare dispute between unions and major airlines. The
government doesn't want a repeat of the 1996 strike that shut down most
commercial air traffic. He's urging the two parties to come to an agreement
quickly. "The president's got some opportunities if they are unable to do
so," Bush said. "I will explore all options."

These could 

[CTRL] The jail from hell--SALON

2001-02-09 Thread Agent Starling



The jail from hellIf you ever go to Memphis, 
you better walk right. A chilling report on one of the worst places in America. 


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Re: [CTRL] WSJ: Out-Foxing the Experts

2001-02-09 Thread William Shannon
In a message dated 2/9/01 11:50:52 AM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Asking everyone tough questions doesn't make a network conservative.

No, but Roger Ailes,Brit Hume,Tony Snow,Bill O'Reilly and several others
certainly do.

Bill.


[CTRL] GM Bugs On Their Way!

2001-02-09 Thread William Shannon
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_115/1150796.stm

Friday, 9 February, 2001, 10:08 GMT

Go-ahead for GM insect release


By BBC News Online's Helen Briggs

The first release of a genetically modified insect is expected to take place
in the United States this summer.

A moth has been engineered to contain a gene from a jellyfish in the first
stage of a genetic experiment designed to eradicate the cotton-destroying
pest from the wild.

A total of 3,600 of the moths will be set free under a cage within a
one-hectare (three-acre) cotton field in Arizona.

The experiment is likely to raise concern among environmental groups.

But the researchers behind it say there is "minimal" risk of the genetically
modified insects escaping. As an added precaution, the insects have been
sterilised.

Pink pest
Thomas Miller of the Department of Entomology, University of California, told
BBC News Online: "It is very important for us that the public understands
what we're doing and why. We are not trying to create something that causes
more trouble than we already have.

"We have plenty of trouble with pink bollworm. It's an absolute nightmare and
it's caused a lot of people to go bankrupt.

"There's two things about this release. Number one, we're only going to use
sterilised insects in the first go around. Even if they get out, there's no
chance of them breeding.

 "Second of all, they are going to be in field cages. The people who are
going to do this work have years of experience working with these field
cages.

"They know what is involved in maintaining them and the only way an enclosed
population is going to get loose is if a hurricane comes through and rips the
field cages to shreds. There hasn't been a hurricane in Arizona in these
areas in living memory.

"One thing we do know: the native population is a champion at survival. It
has so far resisted any attempts to eradicate it except in central
California.

"Our ultimate plans are to insert conditional lethal genes that will fight
against this enormously successful tendency to survive and infest cotton."

Approval pending
US regulators have yet to give the greenlight to the release but Professor
Miller says he is optimistic the field trials, planned for the summer, will
be given the go-ahead in the next few weeks.

The pink bollworm, a major pest of commercial cotton in the southwest, is not
native to the US but hitched a ride there in the 1920s, probably in cotton
shipments from India.

The larvae are tiny white caterpillars with dark brown heads that burrow into
cotton bolls causing devastation to the crop. They grow into greyish-brown
moths.


The engineered moths contain a genetic marker, a green fluorescent protein
(GFP) derived from the jellyfish, which makes caterpillars inheriting the
gene glow green under fluorescent light.

In the first stage of the experiment, the scientists plan to release the
moths under a seven-metre (24-foot) long cage in a small test site remote
from commercial cotton fields.

 Insect control
The field trials could pave the way for the first attempt to eradicate
insects from the wild by releasing genetically modified laboratory strains.
By inserting an inherited lethal trait into the moth the scientists believe
they might be able to "get rid of the pink bollworm" from the US altogether.

 Similar research is focusing on the disease-carrying mosquito. Researchers
from the US and Taiwan have modified the yellow fever mosquito to make it
produce a powerful antibacterial protein, limiting its ability to transmit
disease.

If such insects were ever released in the wild, they might supplant infected
natural populations, helping in the fight against human disease.

Besides insects, a number of other transgenic animals are on the way. The US
Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is currently deciding whether to allow a
fast-growing genetically modified salmon on to American dinner plates.
Scientists believe genetically modified carp may already be in commercial use
in China while genetically modified tilapia may be in use in Cuba.

Other examples of aquatic GMOs include transgenic channel catfish, modified
Pacific oysters and hybrid striped bass.





[CTRL] FBI Reopens Probe of Killing Linked to SLA

2001-02-09 Thread William Shannon
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2001/02/09/M

N75583.DTL


FBI Reopens Probe of Killing Linked to SLA
Deadly 1975 holdup of Carmichael bank

Michael Taylor, Chronicle Staff Writer      Friday, February 9, 2001 

The FBI, spurred on by recent news stories and advances in technology, has 
reopened its investigation into a bank robbery and homicide allegedly 
committed by members of the 1970s terrorist group that kidnapped newspaper 
heiress Patricia Hearst, law enforcement sources said yesterday.

 
The robbery of the Crocker National Bank in the Sacramento suburb of 
Carmichael took place April 21, 1975, but the case has lain dormant for 
nearly 26 years. Every Sacramento County district attorney since then has 
refused to press charges, saying there isn't enough evidence to get 
indictments, let alone convictions.

 
During the robbery, Myrna Lee Opsahl, the 42-year-old wife of a Sacramento 
surgeon, was shot to death by one of the robbers with a shotgun.

 
The crucial evidence that could tip the scales in favor of prosecution 
consists of shotgun pellets taken from Opsahl's body, sources say. Laboratory 
research recently discovered that those pellets match pellets in shotgun 
shells connected to the alleged robbers, according to law enforcement sources 
familiar with the case.

 
Now FBI agents are joining forces with investigators from the Sacramento 
County sheriff's office to see if there is a way to prosecute six of the 
eight alleged bank robbers in federal court, since a prosecution in state 
court seems to have been ruled out.

 
Court records in Los Angeles say the robbery was committed by members of the 
Symbionese Liberation Army, a tiny radical group that was known chiefly for 
its February 1974 kidnapping of Hearst.

 
In San Francisco, FBI spokesman Andy Black said he could neither confirm nor 
deny that the bureau is back on the case.

 
Other law enforcement sources said, however, that FBI agents met yesterday 
with investigators from the Sacramento sheriff's office and members of the 
Opsahl family to see where to take the case next.

 ACQUITTAL 25 YEARS AGO


One of the alleged robbers, Steven Soliah, was tried 25 years ago in federal 
court in Sacramento on charges of robbing the bank. He was acquitted, and it 
is not likely he would be charged again. Another alleged robber, Patricia 
Hearst, was in a getaway car, according to her own memoir and court records. 
She has been given immunity from prosecution if she testifies against gang 
members.

 
Hearst is the granddaughter of media baron William Randolph Hearst, founder 
of the Hearst Corp., which owns The Chronicle. She served 21 months of a 
seven- year federal prison term for her conviction on a different SLA bank 
robbery. Her sentence was commuted by President Jimmy Carter in January 1979. 
Three weeks ago, President Bill Clinton gave her a full pardon.

 
The possible federal prosecution for the Carmichael bank robbery is the 
latest twist in a case whose revival stems from the June 1999 arrest of Sara 
Jane Olson, a Minnesota housewife who was a fugitive for 23 years. Back in 
the mid-1970s, she was known as Kathleen Soliah -- she is the sister of 
Steven Soliah -- and, according to police and prosecutors, was a key figure 
in helping the terrorist SLA gang while it was on the run from the FBI in the 
mid- 1970s. She was indicted in February 1976 by a Los Angeles grand jury on 
charges of trying to bomb Los Angeles police cars and now, a quarter-century 
later, faces trial in April. 


Los Angeles county prosecutors Michael Latin and Eleanor Hunter, along with 
Opsahl's husband, Dr. Trygve Opsahl, and their son, Dr. Jon Opsahl, have been 
unsuccessfully urging Sacramento County to prosecute the Carmichael bank 
robbery case, saying there's enough evidence to get convictions.

 
Most of the evidence consists of hundreds, if not thousands, of items seized 
by the FBI from two SLA safe houses in San Francisco when they arrested 
Hearst, Steven Soliah and SLA members William and Emily Harris in September 
1975. 

EVIDENCE GIVEN AWAY


Over the years, the FBI gave away some crucial evidence, including ski masks 
and wigs, which made any future cases that much harder to prosecute. But they 
kept a number of SLA weapons and many boxes of ammunition.

 
Twenty years ago, Hearst's book about her 19 months with the SLA said that 
after the Opsahl slaying, one of the bank robbers buried the possibly 
incriminating shotgun shell in a Sacramento park. Investigators dug up a good 
portion of the park but never found the shell.

 
Now, however, with advances in metallurgical science, detectives have been 
able to get a match, supposedly good enough to hold up in court, between the 
pellets taken from Opsahl's body and pellets found in shotgun shells seized 
by federal agents when the SLA was arrested.

 
Asked about the new federal investigation, San Francisco attorney Stuart 
Hanlon, who is a consultant to 

[CTRL] THE chilling documentary on America's Secret War TONIGHT On BET!!!!!!

2001-02-09 Thread William Shannon
02/09/01 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: "ALL POWER TO THE PEOPLE!" 


US Broadcast Premiere, BET Movie Channel  (BETM / Starz) 


Friday Feb. 9th @ 8pm (nationwide)


• Dr. King  Malcolm X - The FBI / CIA Assassinations • The True Black 
Panther Party and U.S. Counterintelligence • The American Indian Movement • 
CIA's MK Ultra Mind Control • FEMA's Rex '84 Concentration Camps • CIA / 
Contra / Crack Connection • America's Political Prisoners 

  
THE chilling documentary on America's "Secret War", "All Power to the 
People!"...

 has been broadcast in 24 major nations on 12 networks and viewed by many 
millions globally, thus becoming one of the most widely influential human 
rights documentaries ever. 

 
"All Power to the People!" examines problems of race, poverty, dissent, and 
the universal conflict of 'the haves versus the have nots', the nightmarish 
scenarios that ensue when fearful governments struggle to maintain political 
control at any and all costs; brazenly breaking laws to entrap political 
opponents- in the process creating armed revolution. U.S. Government 
documents, rare news clips, and interviews with both ex-activists and former 
FBI / CIA officers, provide deep insight into the bloody conflict between 
armed political dissent and governmental authority in the U.S. of the 60s and 
70s.

All Power to the People! is to date the only extensive, accurate and fully 
impartial comprehensive documentary of the history of the Black Panther 
Party, its allied organizations and the resultant COINTELPRO repression. The 
film follows the rise, fall and military destruction of the US Human Rights 
movement by the US Government, and additionally analyzes the subsequent 
destruction of an entire generation of African- American and Latino youth 
through drug addiction. 

All Power to the People! clearly demonstrates that the extremely volatile 
social problems that now engulf the United States were encouraged and often 
created by the U.S. Government through illegal intelligence operations in the 
1960s. Globally acclaimed as being among the most accurate depictions of the 
goals, aspirations and ultimate repression of the US Civil Rights Movement, 
"All Power to the People!" is a gripping, timeless, news documentary holding 
within it the keys to create a better world that is far more understanding 
and tolerant, a world ..."with Liberty and Justice for All".   




[CTRL] Senate agrees to pay back dues to United Nations

2001-02-09 Thread William Shannon
http://www.nj.com/newsflash/index.ssf?/cgi-free/getstory_ssf.cgi?a0428_BC_US-U

NDuesnewsnewsflash-washington

Senate agrees to pay back dues to United Nations

By JIM ABRAMS
The Associated Press
2/8/01 1:30 AM

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Senate held a breakthrough vote to pay U.S. debts to
the United Nations after the world body satisfied its chief congressional
nemesis, Sen. Jesse Helms, that it was streamlining its operations and
reducing America's share of the U.N. budget. Both the Foreign Relations
Committee, which Helms chairs, and the full Senate voted without dissent
Wednesday to release $582 million in back dues owed the United Nations for
its operations and peacekeeping costs. That's the bulk of the $926 million
Congress promised in a 1999 law on condition that the organization reform its
huge bureaucracy and reduce the U.S. budgetary burden. Helms, R-N.C., who
last year exchanged well-publicized visits with members of the U.N. Security
Council, said Wednesday that while the United Nations had fallen slightly
short of the goals he had set, he supported release of the money. "This
legislation justifiably used the leverage of the United States to press for
reforms, by linking payment of the United States' so-called U.N. arrears to
specific U.N. reforms," Helms said. Sen. Joseph Biden, D-Del., the top
Democrat on Foreign Relations and co-writer with Helms of the 1999 law,
praised his conservative partner for insisting on the U.N. changes. "Just as
only Nixon could go to China, only Helms could fix the U.N.," Biden said. The
99-0 Senate vote sends the bill to the House, which has not scheduled a date
for action. Sen. Daniel Inouye, D-Hawaii, did not vote. At U.N. headquarters
in New York, the chief U.N. financial officer, Undersecretary-General for
Management Joseph Connor, promised that the money will go to satisfy the
organization's debts to countries that have participated in peacekeeping. "We
are delighted that the large arrearage package contemplated in the
Helms-Biden bill has now come a step closer to the transfer of cash," Connor
said. "We will use every cent to pay down our obligation to some 70 member
states who have contributed troops and equipment to U.N. peacekeeping
missions over a long number of years." The United States paid the first $100
million of the $926 million total in December 1999, a step needed to keep its
voting privileges in the U.N. General Assembly. The third installment of $244
million would come next year if the United Nations follows through on pledges
to clean up what Helms called its bloated bureaucracy. Wednesday's vote, the
Senate's first legislative action of the new Congress, came after the General
Assembly concluded lengthy negotiations last December with agreement that the
U.S. share of the operating budget would drop from 25 percent to 22 percent
and its share of the peacekeeping budget would be reduced gradually from 31
percent to 26.5 percent in 2003. Key to reaching the deal was a one-time gift
of $34 million offered by American media tycoon Ted Turner to cover the
shortfall in the main U.N. budget created by the reduced U.S. contribution in
2001. The vote on the $582 million was required because the Helms-Biden
measure of 1999 conditioned release of funds to the United States paying no
more than 25 percent of the peacekeeping budget, slightly less than what the
U.N. agreed to. That 25 percent cap was first set in 1994 and several members
of the Foreign Relations Committee said Congress should act soon to lift that
ceiling. Sen. Richard Lugar, R-Ind., said most of the peacekeeping budget
goes to U.S. allies who, with the United States reluctant to contribute
troops to peacekeeping missions, are shouldering much of the manpower burden.
The United Nations contends that, even with payment of the $926 million, the
United States would still be in arrears by some $500 million because it has
not fulfilled its obligation to pay 31 percent of peacekeeping costs.
Congressional agreement to that argument is unlikely.

 -- The bill is S. 248.

On the Net: United Nations: http://www.un.org/Foreign Relations Committee:
http://foreign.senate.gov/ 




[CTRL] Skolnick-'Lone Nuts' And High-Level Violence

2001-02-09 Thread William Shannon
http://www.skolnicksreport.com/


'Lone Nuts' And High-Level Violence
By Sherman H. Skolnick

2-9-01



The U.S. monopoly press is always quick to identify any high-level violence 
as caused simply by a "lone nut". To their credit, despite their numerous 
wars and commotions, Europe is somewhat quicker to raise the question of 
"conspiracy". Some of Shakespeare's plays are an example. Such as, "Julius 
Caesar", and the soothsayer's warning to the Emperor, "Beware the Ides of 
March".     

In the 1980 presidential primary campaign, Kennedy family confidant, Allard 
Lowenstein, was to spearhead the campaign for Teddy Kennedy. Lowenstein was 
murdered, in his office, just about the time of "The Ides of March", 1980. 
Teddy got the message and his campaign went nowhere.Using the exact phrase, 
"Beware the Ides of March", I publicly and prophetically predicted 
presidential campaign violence just before the 1980 event of Lowenstein.     

Previously, in 1975, just before being thrown out of a Lowenstein press 
conference, on whether there had been a plot to assassinate Bobby Kennedy, 
(on the excuse that I was not a mass media reporter and hence had no right to 
be there), I on-tape confronted Lowenstein with his CIA connections back to 
the time he was with the CIA-front, National Student Association. He denied 
links to the American spy agency.     

So, in 1980, I publicly questioned the monopoly press's version, that 
Lowenstein had been murdered by a "lone nut". Only AFTER his death, did some 
journalists bring up his role in 1974, assisting the American CIA to 
overthrow the perceived leftist government of Portugal.     

Following the murder in 1963 of President John F. Kennedy, there started a 
movement in the U.S. of political assassination researchers. Despite the fact 
that I was rightfully considered part of that movement, fellow activists 
nevertheless often wanted me thrown out of their meetings for departing from 
the usual talk about which way the bullets went or did not go. Why? To their 
combined displeasure, I always raised the question of financial and related 
issues, not bullets.   

[At one assassination research conference in Chicago, I was ordered to be 
silent or be removed, when I confronted Oliver Stone's chief researcher for 
the movie "JFK" with a question: Is it not true that the French Rothschilds, 
linked to the Kennedy Family, principally financed the 42 million dollars for 
"JFK", and ran it primarily in their U.S. movie houses, to get revenge on 
Kennedy Family enemies?]     

A few hours later Oliver Stone himself showed up at the meeting, and 
considering me apparently as some poor wretch in a wheelchair, condescended 
to allow me to tape a short segment with him on a less direct question and 
answer.     

On another note, assassination researchers have developed an eye and ear for 
seemingly small but revealing details tending to show a cabal. During the two 
presidential terms of William Rockefeller Clinton, there were several 
suspicious violent events:     

Item: One night, a small airplane came within about 20 feet of going through 
President Clinton's White House bedroom window. Later, details were either 
played down or not widely reported. Such as, because of the obstructions on 
the route, the plane, according to skilled pilots and aviation experts, would 
have had to be guided in and around obstacles, vectored as it is called, from 
someone giving signals from the ground. Also the alleged "pilot" was already 
dead before impact, tending to prove the plane was a robot or drone guided 
from elsewhere. No explanation was given as to why and how, just that night, 
the White House rooftop-mounted ground-to-air missiles and the guidance 
system were turned off; they are supposed to near automatically be ready to 
target any aircraft that flies in the "no-fly" zone over the District of 
Columbia.     

Item: A super-velocity rifle, or rifles, were used by one or more gunmen to 
shoot through the supposedly bullet-proof Clinton White House dining room 
windows. A skilled videographer happened to be somehow right there as it 
happened. Later, a copy of the videotape was seized by federal authorities 
and never publicly revealed. Did he retain the original? The tape, according 
to his associates, reportedly showed intelligence-agency covert operatives 
were the shooters. The video-maker was later found dead, apparently murdered. 
    

Item: an assassin somehow got past the security guards at the entrance to 
offices adjoining the U.S. House of Representatives. He went straight to the 
unmarked first floor door into the office of Congressman Tom DeLay (R., 
Texas). The House Majority Whip came within a few seconds of being 
assassinated. According to his confidants who spoke to investigators on the 
promise of anonymity, DeLay took it as a failed assassination plot. He left 
immediately for Texas, and was guarded getting off the plane there by a 
virtual army. He was 

[CTRL] The Shocking Transcript!! - SHOOTING NEAR THE WHITE HOUSE

2001-02-09 Thread William Shannon
http://www.satirewire.com/weblog/whitehousetranscript.shtml


SHOOTING NEAR THE WHITE HOUSE


White House transcript. Wednesday, Feb. 7, 2001, 11:45 a.m.


(Secret Service Agent "Tom" rushes in to White House Gymnasium)
SS Tom: Tumbler! There's a man outside...
Bush: I hate that code name, "Tumbler." I want a better code name.
SS Tom: Yes sir, just let me know sir. But I have to inform you, there's a
man outside the White House shooting a gun.
Bush: Who is it?
SS Tom: We're not sure. All we know is he's a white male, maybe late 40s, and
he's very angry. Keeps going on about being cheated out of a government job.
Bush: It's Gore!


(Cheney rushes in)


Cheney: Mr. President!
Bush: Dick! Gore's trying to shoot me!
Cheney: Sir, you've been shot!
Bush: I have?
Cheney: Someone call an ambulance! The President's been shot!
Bush: I'm... I've been shot?
Cheney: Call Judge Rehnquist, pronto! He'll have to swear me in.
Bush: Why are you gonna call Judge Rehnquist 'Pronto?' His name is Willard.
Cheney: It's William. And please, Mr. President, save your strength. Don't
speak.
Bush: But it doesn't hurt me to speak.
Cheney: Think of the rest of us, sir.
Bush: Dick, listen to me, this is stupid.
Tom SS: (mumbles into collar mic) The President's new code name is 'Stupid.'
Cheney: I'm sorry sir, but I'll have to ask you to refer to me as 'Mr. Acting
President,' at least until Judge Rehnquist gets here.
Bush: What?


(Chief Justice Rehnquist rushes in)


Rehnquist: What's the emergency?
SS Tom: Stupid has been shot.
Bush: Who you callin' stupid?
Cheney: You'll have to swear me in, Your Honor. The President was shot by an
assassin. He's near death.
Bush: I am not near death!
SS Tom: That's correct, sir. You're "Stupid." Mr. Cheney, your code name is
"Near Death."
Rehnquist: Who shot him?
Bush: Al Gore!
Cheney: See, he's already unstable.
Rehnquist: How can you tell?
Bush: Hey! You voted for me Wallace!
Rehnquist: It's William.
Cheney: Judge, do you have the Bible? OK, swear me in.
Bush: But I haven't been shot! Tom, tell 'em I haven't been shot!
SS Tom: Stupid wasn't shot. Only the gunman was shot.
Bush: Jesus, Gore's been killed!


(Gore rushes in)


Bush: Aaah! It's Al Gore's ghost!
Gore: What? You're not dead? I heard you were dead.
Bush: If I am, you killed me!
Gore: (pauses, frowns) I cannot believe you're the president.
Cheney: That's former president. Judge, the Bible?
Rehnquist: Are you ready to be sworn in, Mr. Vice President?
Cheney: Yes.
Gore: Yes.
Cheney: Gore, get out of here! You're not the vice president.
Gore: No, I'm supposed to be President. It's why I'm here.
Bush: Hey, he can't be president if he shot me, can he?
Gore: What is he talking about?
Cheney: He's delirious.
Bush: All right, stop this right now! I am not delirious, I am not shot, and
I am not dead. I'm not even in any danger!
Gore: (pointing to SS Tom) Then why is he here?
SS Tom: I'm with Stupid.
Bush: And I am not Stupid!
SS Tom: (mumbles into collar mic) Correction. The President's new code name
is "Not Stupid."
Bush: Now everyone just get out! Wait, not you, Dick. I want you to make a
statement to the press. Say the President is absolutely, positively NOT near
death.
Cheney: All right. You don't have to rub it in.




[CTRL] Some people never learn.

2001-02-09 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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   Sharon Maneuvers For Starting Position
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   It's time for serious political confusion and disinformation now.  As the
armies prepare themselves for the clashes likely to come in one form or another,
the politicians maneuver for new starting positions.  Of course in many cases,
especially that of Ariel Sharon and Ehud Barak, the armies and the politicians
are one in the same.
   Part of preparation for conflict and war these days is positioning oneself
in public opinion.  And that is precisely where Sharon has gone, full-speed
ahead.  Top-level propaganda teams have already been dispatched to Washington
and European capitals.  They will court the media in public; discuss things
with key allies and political leaders in private.
   As for Arafat and Regime...ill-prepared and not up to the task as usual.
 The Palestinian people are saddled with this corrupt, inept, and incompetent
regime.  They are now paying the price for so many years of mistakes and, at
best, mediocrity.  Unless the Palestinian people can somehow remove Arafat
and Regime and replace it with some of the far more capable and far more
principled
Palestinians -- Dr. Haider Abdul Shafi at the top of the list -- they cannot
expect things to get better for them.  Indeed, far more tragic times might
be ahead for the Palestinian people facing the thugs of Sharon and the
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democratic outcome was inevitable. He, by contrast, considered that
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the capacity 

Re: [CTRL] Mad Computer Disease

2001-02-09 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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Aleisha Saba wrote:

 -Caveat Lector-

 Well Birds - people behind computers are robots putting in knowledge of
 others.


Except for you. You put in no knowledge at all. Just endless brain farts.

Joshua2


 No need for use of intelligence or original thoughtsanyone can sit
 down and use a calculator or computer - but can someone sit down and add
 up figures in their heads?

 Empty heads behind computers - looking up reference books and using
 words of others?  Make you look smart on computer in print out but boy,
 when some of these people try to sit down and write a letter their
 ignorance really shows?

 People sitting behind computers all day are also taller when sitting
 down than standing - for they are also sitting on brains?

 Glad I have a web tv which someone bought me just for fun.

 Oh Computers look so smart quoting Shakespeare, bible, Bryant,
 Longfellow, Hazlitt, Fitzgerald, etc, etc, etc.

 But did you ever break behind the computer image and see the typist
 sitting behind the lightduhh, duhh and more duhh.

 Loaded with knowledge in form of encyclopedians but empty headed; using
 words of others to look oh so smart, when collective iq averages
 70..

 Like who writes the speeches as compares to the guy who delivers same -
 and takes the bow.

 I wrote a speech once that was delivered over Stone Mountain in Georgia;
 I was quoted by Harry Truman way back, at a labor day celebration where
 I said " no matter what, the worst democrat is better than the best
 republican" and being in my teens and in college, I really meant
 that..I have been reported on Paul Harvey twice, made 60 minutes
 once and my words went all over the world..oh but fame, sometimes
 fleeting - but those were words that I wrote - and have been published
 once in FATE Magazine when only 16 - a magazine my mother loved to read.

 Flattered that Paul Harvey chose my words and actions twice on his
 show..and 60 Minutes, well I was a little shocked they gave me so
 much time and had to lay low for a week...

 Such is the life of a person with original thoughts as compared to the
 poor computer operator, the glorified typist, who uses the words of
 others, with no original thoughts of their own.

 This is what you call, empty headed morons.

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Clinton Pardoned Mossad Spy for Israelis - RememberUSSLiberty

2001-02-09 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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Aleisha Saba wrote:

 This man is not just a Mossad Spy for he is for sale to anyone...he
 is open to civil suits and Clinton can pardon him all he wants, but one
 good taxpayers suit against him might suffice.

 Mossad Spy?   Dual Citizensp anybody?

ARGGH YOU MEAN DUAL LOYALTY YOU DUMB TWAT. Every country
including the USA allows for dual citizenship.

SHEESH,
Joshua2



 Arab Nations are not stupid for they have the ace in the hole - oil -
 oil - and more oiland if these Israelies or anyone else ever attempt
 to take over the oil fields - remember they are wired and readyto blow
 and here you see the Armageddon - Hells Fire..

 Tell me why billions of dollars to Israelies when they have their
 "spies" stealing from USA?

 These are friends - friendly fire like USS Liberty when the napalmed the
 decks of this great ship while OUR MEN lie on deck where 37 were
 murdered and 171 wounded and they were napalmed over 45 minutes and
 bombed as the Israelies tried to sink same to destroy evidence?

 As Contract Murderer says " where there is a testament, there must be
 death of the testators" or kill all for dead men tell no tales.

 We Shall See.

   --

 Subject: Clinton Pardoned Mossad Spy for Israelis
 Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 10:03:23 +
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   CLINTON FURTHER PAYS OFF THE ISRAELIS

 MID-EAST REALITIES  - www.MiddleEast.Org - Washington - 2/09:
 The Israelis adore Bill Clinton, as all the pollsters know.  Deep down
 even the common everyday Israelis know he was their man in the White House.
  The political elite know very well the real story of how their friends in
 the Israeli/Jewish lobby helped bring Clinton to power in the first place;
 and once in the White House manipulated him continually to bring about the
 kind of Pax Israelica they so covet, a "final settlement" with the Palestinians
 using Arafat to legitimize their designs.  That of course is what all those
 visits to the Clinton White House -- continually playing to Arafat's vanity,
 bank accounts and fears -- were all about.
 Jonathan Pollard was too difficult to let go.  Oh Clinton tried.  But the
 backlash from the CIA and Pentagon would have been more than he felt he could
 handle.  Second on the Israeli list it now appears was Marc Rich.  The likelihood
 is that Rich was at the least a major Mossad "asset", though not an official
 agent.  Oh yes, one more thing, those rumored Mossad sex tapes of Clinton in
 the Oval Office and Monica Lewinsky at her Watergate Apartment -- well, just
 a little imagination is required here to understand what was going on.

 MARC RICH WAS "A MOSSAD" SPY FOR ISRAEL
By Niles Latham

 [New York Post - 5 February]:  Billionaire Marc Rich lived a double life during
 his 20 years as a fugitive, funneling secret data to Israeli and other intelligence
 services about some unsavory governments.

 Sensational details about Rich's ultimate high-wire act as a spy for Israel
 and other countries were provided to The Post as congressional committees prepare
 to hold hearings into former President Bill Clinton's controversial decision
 to pardon the fugitive commodities trader.

 Among the issues that will be explored by the House Oversight Committee in
 its probe of the hotly disputed Rich pardon, according to congressional sources,
 are:
 * Rich's lengthy relationship with the Israeli Mossad.
 * His numerous contacts with federal prosecutors in New York, during which
 his lawyers offered to provide   intelligence to the CIA in return for leniency.
 A CIA spokesman denied any relationship with Rich and said no one from the
 agency participated in behind-the-scenes White House discussions about his
 pardon.

 But Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak repeatedly cited Rich's contributions
 to Israel's "national security" in phone calls to President Clinton last month
 in which he lobbied for Rich's pardon, according to Barak spokesman Gadi Baltiansky.
  And a letter from former Mossad chief Shabtai Shavit to Clinton confirming
 that Rich provided "assistance" to the Israeli spy agency that produced results
 "beyond the expected" was among the documents released last week by Rich's
 lawyer Jack Quinn to support the Rich 

[CTRL] HOW TO SPEAK AND BE POLITICALLY CORRECT

2001-02-09 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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Subject: HOW TO SPEAK AND BE POLITICALLY CORRECT:



HOW TO SPEAK ABOUT WOMEN AND BE POLITICALLY CORRECT:

She is not a BABE or a CHICK - She is a BREASTED AMERICAN.
She is not a SCREAMER or MOANER - She is VOCALLY APPRECIATIVE.
She is not EASY - She is HORIZONTALLY ACCESSIBLE.
She does not TEASE or FLIRT - She engages in ARTIFICIAL STIMULATION.
She is not DUMB - She is a DETOUR OFF THE INFORMATION SUPERHIGHWAY.
She has not BEEN AROUND - She is a PREVIOUSLY ENJOYED COMPANION.
She does not GET YOU EXCITED -She causes TEMPORARY BLOOD DISPLACEMENT.
She is not KINKY - She is a CREATIVE CARETAKER.
She does not have a KILLER BODY - She is TERMINALLY ATTRACTIVE.
She is not an AIRHEAD - She is REALITY IMPAIRED.
She does not get DRUNK or TIPSY - She gets CHEMICALLY INCONVENIENCED.
She is not horny - She is SEXUALLY FOCUSED.
She does not have BREAST IMPLANTS - She is MEDICALLY ENHANCED.
She does not NAG YOU - She becomes VERBALLY REPETITIVE.
She is not a SLUT - She is SEXUALLY EXTROVERTED.
She does not have MAJOR LEAGUE HOOTERS - She is PECTORALLY SUPERIOR.
She is not a TWO BIT WHORE - She is a LOW COST PROVIDER.

HOW TO SPEAK ABOUT MEN AND BE POLITICALLY CORRECT:

He does not have a BEER GUT - He has developed a LIQUID GRAIN STORAGE
FACILITY
He is not a BAD DANCER - He is OVERLY CAUCASIAN
He does not GET LOST ALL THE TIME - He INVESTIGATES ALTERNATIVE DESTINATIONS
He is not BALDING - He is in FOLLICLE REGRESSION
He is not a CRADLE ROBBER - He prefers GENERATIONALLY DIFFERENTIAL
RELATIONSHIPS
He does not get FALLING-DOWN DRUNK -He becomes ACCIDENTALLY HORIZONTAL
He does not act like a TOTAL ASS - He develops a case of  RECTAL-CRANIAL
INVERSION
He is not a SEX MACHINE - He is ROMANTICALLY AUTOMATED
He is not a MALE CHAUVINIST PIG - He has SWINE EMPATHY
He is not afraid of COMMITMENT - He is MONOGAMOUSLY CHALLENGED
He does not UNDRESS YOU WITH HIS EYES - He has an  INTROSPECTIVE GRAPHIC
MOMENT

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Re: [CTRL] Chamish: Sharon - No Celebration (fwd)

2001-02-09 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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MICHAEL SPITZER wrote:

 -Caveat Lector-

 On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Nurev Ind Research wrote:

 
  Barry Chamish is usually 80% full of shit. This time he outdid
  himself by another 19%.

 I believe he's 80-plus percent on the money.  In fact, I can
 pretty safely say that if he claims something as fact, IT IS!

How do you know this?

 
  Let's not forget that this guy makes his living off of gullible
  conspiracy geeks.
 
  Just a friendly word of advice from someone who knows.
 

 ???

??? what does this mean???


 I think the man has a great deal of integrity, and is a very fine
 and dedicated investigative journalist.

Well, you might have a lot of work to do on refining your judgment.
He's in the ' conspiracy writing ' business. His political analysis
is off the wall. I personally corrected some of his more blatant drivel
here on CTRL.

He and Joel Bainerman are good buddies who use each other as references as
if the other is an expert at something when they are not. Bainerman uses
phony names and Chamish quotes him under those names as well.

These guys know who their most gullible target audience is. Zionist
Christians, conspiracy geeks, and plenty of feeble minded UFO enthusiasts.

Sorry Mike,

J2


 Best,

 Mike


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[CTRL] Missle Defense my ass. The REAL reason for Star Wars is to control the ultimate high ground.

2001-02-09 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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Air Force Gearing Up for Space Operations
http://www.latimes.com/wires/wnational/20010209/tCB00a1158.html

By JIM WOLF, Reuters

 WASHINGTON--The Air Force embraced a report that cited the "virtual
certainty" of future hostile action in space and said it was moving forward
with plans to boost U.S. military strength in the heavens.
  Donald Rumsfeld headed the congressionally mandated commission that
issued the report, although he stepped down from the commission post after
being tapped to become President George W. Bush's defense secretary.
  "The Air Force strongly supports the space commission report and is
already moving to implement many of (its) recommendations," said Maj. Gen.
Brian Arnold, director of space and nuclear deterrence in the Air Force
secretary's acquisitions office.
  He said Thursday that the service was working with Stephen Cambone, a
top Rumsfeld aide, to align the space programs of the Air Force and the
National Reconnaissance Office, the Pentagon arm that develops and manages
U.S. spy satellites, and make other organizational and management changes.
  Before moving to the Pentagon with Rumsfeld, Cambone served as staff
director of the space commission, which urged that space be recognized as a
"top national security priority."
  "We know from history that every medium -- air, land and sea -- has
seen conflict. Reality indicates that space will be no different," the
commission said in the Jan. 11 report to Congress.
  "Given this virtual certainty, the U.S. must develop the means to both
deter and defend against hostile acts in and from space," it said. "This
will require superior space capabilities."
  The panel said the U.S. government should make sure the president
"will have the option to deploy weapons in space to deter threats to and, if
necessary, defend against attacks on U.S. interests."
  Pentagon spokeswoman Susan Hansen said Rumsfeld himself had not yet
officially acted on the recommendations of his own commission's report.
  "The internal review is ongoing," she said, with a goal of advising
Congress within 90 days of the submission of the report.
  BUILD "CRITICAL MASS"
  Arnold, at an Alexandria, Virginia conference on aerospace power, said
a key Air Force goal was to build the "critical mass" for getting the
highest levels of government to focus on military space policy.
  The Air Force will seek to resurrect a program to test a space-based
radar aimed at giving a sharper view of enemy territory, potentially a
multibillion-dollar effort, he told Reuters after addressing the conference.
  Congress killed the program last year, citing cost concerns. Among the
contractors involved are Lockheed Martin Corp. and Boeing Co. .
  At the conference, Arnold cited the outcome of the first U.S. war
games based on the possibility of war in space as evidence of the importance
of developing an effective military presence in space. The war games were
played out last month at Schriever Air Force Base outside Colorado Springs,
Colorado.
  The classified games, set in 2017, demonstrated that a robust U.S.
space presence provides a stable, permanent peacekeeping capability as well
as the potential for an early deterrent strike, Arnold said. One assumption
was that the heavens will be loaded with weapons, including small satellites
that can maneuver against other satellites to blind them or disable them.
  The war games showed that a robust U.S. military presence in space was
"much more stabilizing" than a weaker U.S. presence, Arnold said.

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[CTRL] Fwd: [narconews] DRCNet on Venezuela and Narco News Defense

2001-02-09 Thread Kris Millegan





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February 9, 2001

Dear Colleagues,

We thank the Drug Reform Coordination Network, DRCNet,
for its continued coverage of our work.

We are particularly touched and impressed because
it is special kind of solidarity when an organization
like DRCNet, itself dependent on member and reader
contributions, has shared our defense fund appeal
with its 19,000 subscribers.

With this kind of unity and support, no one will
ever stop our cause or silence our truth.

DRCNet posts its full "The Week On-Line" newsletter,
available by free subscription, along with other
important information at its web site:

http://www.drcnet.org/

On to victory!

Al Giordano
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The Narco News Bulletin
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enc: from DRCNet's The Week On-Line...

NarcoNews on Key Moves in Venezuela, Legal Fundraising Appeal

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, a former paratroop colonel who
swept the country's corrupt and tottering old regime from power in a
1999 landslide election, is increasingly viewed by Washington's drug
warriors and hidebound Cold Warriors as a threat to US policy aims in
northern South America and beyond.

They have good reason to be concerned. Since he assumed the
presidency two years ago, Chavez has both challenged Washington's
neoliberal economic orthodoxy and asserted a vision of a Latin
America unified to confront the colossus of the north. He has also
used Venezuela's huge oil reserves to push OPEC in a more aggressive
direction, and has gone out of his way to thumb his nose at the
United States by visiting such US-denominated villains as Iraq's
Saddam Hussein and Libya's Moammar Ghadafy. Also worrying the Bush
administration is Chavez's nomination of Ali Rodriguez, his former
oil minister, as secretary-general of the oil producers' organization
in Vienna.

But Chavez' role in his own neighborhood is causing as much concern
on Wall Street and in Foggy Bottom. Chavez has embraced Cuban leader
Fidel Castro (they even played baseball together) and Venezuela is
now supplying Cuba with desperately needed oil. And to the great
irritation of US drug warriors, he has refused permission for US anti-
drug planes based in the Dutch Antilles to over-fly Venezuelan
territory. He is also a bitter and eloquent foe of Plan Colombia,
which has brought violence and increasing refugee flows across the
border into Venezuela.

All of the above prompted the Guardian Weekly (Great Britain) to
report last week that "rumours are circulating that hawks in
Washington are seeking allies in the Venezuelan military for a coup
against Mr. Chavez."

Now, in a move certain to further tempt any possible coup-mongers,
Chavez has appointed the well-known leftist journalist Jose Vincent
Rangel as the country's first civilian defense minister. According to
a detailed report in Al Giordano's Narco News Bulletin
(http://www.narconews.com/rangel1.html), Rangel's first task will be
to prevent the formation of paramilitary death squads by Venezuelan
landowners near the Colombian border. The Venezuelan press reported
last week that landowners were considering such measures "to combat
the Colombian guerrilla." As Giordano emphasizes, paramilitaries
thrive only where they have the support of national militaries, and
Rangel's appointment will serve to check elements of the Venezuelan
officer corps who may be inclined to provide cover for such armed
formations.

One indication of growing US focus on Chavez comes from Strategic
Forecasting, Inc., an Austin-based private intelligence-gathering
group (http://www.stratfor.com/home/giu/archive/020501/). Normally
staid and reliable, albeit clearly realpolitik in its perspective,
Stratfor greeted Rangel's ascension with hysteria, hyperbole, and
name-calling. Calling Rangel "a lifelong anti-American Marxist who
admires Fidel Castro and is despised widely within the Venezuelan
armed forces," the spies-for-hire complained that Venezuela
was "adopting a hard line with the Colombian government on halting
refugee displacements and cross-border incursions by Colombian army
and paramilitary units."

Stratfor's analysis was blasted in a sizzling response the same day
from Vheadlines.com, an English-language Venezuelan news provider
(http://www.vheadline.com/0102/9938.htm). Vheadlines editorial writer
Roy Carson debunked Stratfor's analysis in detail before concluding
that Stratfor "should take off its myopic North American blinkers and
view President Hugo Chavez Frias' achievements through the past two
years in the light of the stark reality that faces Venezuela after
more than 40 years of American-backed political and economic
corruption."

"In this respect," wrote Carson, "Stratfor has 

[CTRL] Russias Jets-for-Debt Offer to Austria Threatening NATO Expansion

2001-02-09 Thread Bill Richer

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Russia’s Jets-for-Debt Offer to Austria Threatening NATO Expansion
09 February 2001

Summary

Russian President Vladimir Putin traveled to Austria this week with two items
on his agenda – reinforcing Russia's economic relations with Austria and
persuading Austria to retain its neutral status. Central to both missions was
a Russian offer to trade MiG-29 jet fighters to Austria in exchange for
relief of Russian debt to Vienna. The offer was rejected, dealing a serious
setback to Russia's strategy for relations with Europe. Domestic political
pressure, time and budgetary constraints, however, could force Austria to
reconsider Russia's offer, in turn, threatening NATO expansion and cohesion.

Analysis
Russian President Vladimir Putin concluded the working portion of his visit
to Austria on Feb. 9, having almost completely failed to achieve his two
major objectives. First, Putin was attempting to reinforce economic ties
between Russia and Austria. Second, Putin sought to persuade Austrian leaders
to retain the country’s neutral status and refrain from NATO membership.
Serving both initiatives was a Russian proposal to offer MiG-29 fighter jets
as partial payment of Russia’s $2.84 billion debt to Vienna, an offer that,
if accepted, would have hampered any future Austrian accession to NATO.

But the MiG offer was shot down before Putin’s arrival, the victim of
aggressive opposition lobbying from the United States, Britain and Sweden. In
the end, Putin was forced to reaffirm publicly that Russia would fulfill its
international debt obligations and to acknowledge that Austria’s neutrality
and membership in international organizations were matters for Austria to
decide. Chastened, Putin left Vienna with only a handful of insubstantial
economic cooperation agreements.

While strategically and economically painful, Russia’s setback on the MiG
proposal is not yet terminal. The Russian jets-for-debt proposal and
competing European and U.S. offers will still face intense debate within the
Austrian populace and parliament. The majority of Austrians do not share
their government’s commitment to eventual NATO membership, and budgetary and
political concerns could, in the end, make Russia’s offer too attractive to
refuse.

Russia had hoped the MiG sale would help solve its economic and strategic
problems. From a strictly economic standpoint, Russia needed Austria to
accept the jets-for-debt deal. Russia’s foreign debt amounts to approximately
$48.3 billion, of which it owes about $2.84 to $3.3 billion to Austria,
according to Russian figures. Russia is counting on debt rescheduling and
creative barter deals to cover the majority of its obligations.

Click here to see a map of Austria relative to NATO member countries.

Russia also needs to maintain strong economic ties with Austria, whose
neutrality during the Cold War has made it an economic bridge between Western
Europe and the former Soviet Bloc. Austria is Russia’s 10th largest investor,
at an estimated $170 to $200 million currently invested. According to the
Kremlin, trade between the two countries amounted to $1.6 billion in 2000.
Measuring total trade and investment, officials in Vienna judge Austria to be
Russia’s fourth largest commercial partner.

In addition, the MiG offer was an attempt to exploit Austria’s immediate need
for new fighter aircraft as a way to undermine Austria’s long-term bid for
NATO membership. Austria has allowed its military forces to deteriorate
significantly since the end of the Cold War, and its army air division is in
dire straits. Austria is the only country still operationally employing a
fleet of 24 Drakens, an aircraft designed in the 1950s, built in the 1970s
and whose operational lifespan is scheduled to end in 2005.



Austria has delayed a decision on replacing the Drakens, in part due to
budgetary constraints, but largely because weapons systems selection has a
great impact on Austria’s ability to establish future strategic relationships
– particularly with NATO. The purchase of Russian aircraft would reflect
badly on Austria’s political commitment to Western military alignments and
threaten its links with Western air forces.

Russia has gone to great lengths to overcome the main arguments against the
MiG-29 – that the supply of spare parts and support is unreliable and that
the MiG does not meet NATO standards for interoperability. Russia also
offered a very tempting proposal, particularly in terms of cost. The MiG-29
sells for roughly half the price of competing Western aircraft. Moscow upped
the stakes from simple competitive marketing last September when the Russian
Finance Ministry presented a plan for the delivery of 30 MiG-29s, valued at
$1.2 billion, which could be paid for up to 100 percent in debt redemption,
according to the Austrian newspaper Der Standard. Negotiations have
reportedly 

[CTRL] Presidential Humor

2001-02-09 Thread Tenorlove

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Once upon a time, long, long ago there was a Presidential Election that

was too close to call. Neither the Republican presidential candidate,
nor the Democratic presidential candidate had enough votes to win the
election. Therefore, it was decided that there should be an ice fishing
contest between the two candidates to determine the final winner. There
was much talk about ballot recounting, court challenges, etc., but a
week-long ice-fishing competition seemed the fairest way to settle
things. The candidate who catches the most fish at the end of the week
wins.

After a lot of back and forth discussion, it was decided that the
contest would take place on a remote and cold lake in Minnesota. There
were to be no observers present since both men were to be sent out on
this remote lake and return daily with their catch for counting and
verification.

At the end of the first day, George W. Bush returns to the starting
line and he has 10 fish. Soon, Al Gore returns and has zero fish. Well,
everyone assumes Al is just having another bad hair day or something
and hopefully he will catch up the next day.

At the end of the 2nd date George W. comes in with 20 fish and Al Gore
comes in again with none. That evening, Bill Clinton gets together
secretly with Al Gore and says; "Al, I think George W. is a lowlife
cheatin' son-of-a-gun. I'm a gonna dress this good ole' Southern Boy,
James Carville, as a polar bear and send him out on the lake to act as
a spy."

The next night (after George W. comes back with 50 fish and Al Gore
with none), Bill gets Carville and Al Gore together and says to
Carville: "Well, what about it boy, is George W. cheatin'?"

"He sure is, Bill, he's cuttin' holes in the ice!"

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[CTRL] Denise Rich Photo Gallery

2001-02-09 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a84519b0cd2.htm

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[CTRL] GE Canola Superweeds Out Of Control - Spread Across Canada

2001-02-09 Thread Steve Wingate

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  GE Canola Superweeds Out Of
  Control - Spread Across Canada
   By Journalist Tom Spears
  The Ottawa Citizen
  http://www.purefood.org/gefood/canolasuperweeds.cfm
2-9-1


Genetically modified "superweeds" have invaded
Canadian farms - canola plants engineered to help
farmers that instead escaped and cross-bred with
each other to form plants stronger than their
parents.

Most pesticides can't kill these canola superweeds,
which are sprouting up in wheat fields and other
areas where farmers don't want them, Canada's
expert panel on biotechnology says.

Three types of canola, each engineered with genes
to resist one type of weedkiller, have merged into
new varieties resistant to many pesticides. Instead
of helping farmers avoid weeds, the canola itself
has become the weed.

The superweed-canola is especially bad in the
Prairies, where canola is a multibillion-dollar crop,
says a report released yesterday from the Royal
Society of Canada's biotech experts.

The biotech industry has been "naive" in thinking
that good farming methods alone will hold
superweeds at bay, the report says.

And the panel warns that as the next generation of
genetically engineered crops becomes more
complex, it will be tougher to head off the
superweeds of the future.

Canola "is the classic example" of a superweed,
said Brian Ellis, a co-chair of the panel and
molecular biologist from the University of British
Columbia.

Canola varieties such as Liberty Link and Roundup
Ready were engineered to use with a pesticide [sic]
(such as Roundup). The idea was that a farmer
would plant canola resistant to Roundup, then spray
the field with Roundup.

Everything except the canola would die.

Where canola is nearly pesticide-proof, it can crowd
out other plants - crops and weeds - in farm fields.

But its resistance to pesticides doesn't help its
survival in the wild, where there are no pesticides.

"The next generation ... is crops that come along
carrying genes thatmake them more frost-tolerant or
drought-tolerant. They have an advantage over
their wild cousins," Mr. Ellis said.

That means they will have a bioengineered
advantage in taking over farm fields and in moving
through wild areas.

"Herbicide-resistant volunteer canola planta aare
beginning to develop into a major problem" in the
Prairies, the panel's report says. (Volunteer plants
are those that seed themselves.)

Canola has been farmed for only a few generations
and so it still has some wild tendencies - such as
dropping its seeds before a farmer can harvest
them. This plants seeds for next year.

And plants, the report says, "can be quite
promiscuous." Canola plants will breed with any
other canola they meet, creating the phenomenon of
"gene stacking," or accumulating all the genes
originally built into different strains by different
laboratories.


[CTRL] Puberty Starting Younger - Caucasian Girls Now Average 9.7 Years

2001-02-09 Thread Steve Wingate

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   Puberty Starting Younger -
  Caucasian Girls Now Average 9.7 Years

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010207/hl/puberty_young_1.html
2-9-1


WASHINGTON (Reuters Health) - Scientists have
known for several years that girls and boys are
reaching puberty earlier, but they still don't know
why this is happening, or what the consequences
might be, experts said at a forum here Monday.

In 1997, a landmark study of 17,000 girls found that
the average starting age of puberty had dipped a
year from previous studies of Caucasian girls, to 9.7
years.

African-American girls hit puberty even earlier, at an
average age of about 8, said Marcia
Herman-Giddens, principal author of that study and
a professor at the University of North at Carolina
Chapel Hill.

Data on when puberty starts has been skimpy over
the years--especially for African Americans. But,
said Herman-Giddens, ``I'm confident that this trend
is a real trend,'' adding that adolescence seems to
be starting earlier and lasting longer in children
worldwide. She is currently analyzing data on
American boys.

``What we're seeing is a symptom of a very serious
public health problem,'' said Herman-Giddens,
noting that the long term physical and mental health
impact of early puberty are not understood.

Being obese or overweight, which has been
associated with premature puberty, may be one
potential cause. Others include genetics, low
birthweight, poor diet, lack of activity, and
surprisingly, an absentee father or a non-relative
male in the house have also been offered as
explanations.

Scientists have also been exploring whether
so-called ''endocrine disrupters''--a group of
chemicals thought to interfere with hormonal
function--might be spurring or delaying puberty, said
Herman-Giddens.

John Peterson Myers, director of the W. Alton Jones
Foundation and author of a book on chemical
contamination and fetal development, said some of
these chemicals have retarded sexual development
in rat fetuses.

Among the most controversial of these chemicals
are phthalate esters, which are found in toys, vinyl
flooring, detergents, and cosmetics and lotions. The
chemical and cosmetics industry says phthalates
have been proven safe and that they have no role in
causing early puberty.

``The science is not certain, but there is a plausible
link,'' contends Myers.Diana Zuckerman, executive
director of the National Center for Policy Research
for Women  Families, said she worries about the
psychological impact of early puberty on young
girls.

Previous studies have shown that girls who develop
at a young age begin dating earlier, have sex
sooner, are subject to more psychological stress,
more behavioral problems, and were more likely to
drink and smoke, said Zuckerman.

``No matter what they look like, they are still little
girls,'' she said. Zuckerman also added that early
puberty places additional stress on parents who

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2001-02-09 Thread A. Szul

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BTW, a good way to stay on top of the latest media bias analysis posted to
the Media Research Center's Web site type in your e-mail at
http://www.mrc.org/mrcwebnews.html

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Re: [CTRL] Chamish: Sharon - No Celebration (fwd)

2001-02-09 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, Nurev Ind Research wrote:

   Barry Chamish is usually 80% full of shit. This time he outdid
   himself by another 19%.
 
  I believe he's 80-plus percent on the money.  In fact, I can
  pretty safely say that if he claims something as fact, IT IS!

 How do you know this?


Just what I know of him.


  
   Let's not forget that this guy makes his living off of gullible
   conspiracy geeks.
  
   Just a friendly word of advice from someone who knows.
  
 
  ???

 ??? what does this mean???

It means I don't know what you're talking about.


 
  I think the man has a great deal of integrity, and is a very fine
  and dedicated investigative journalist.

 Well, you might have a lot of work to do on refining your judgment.

Could be.



 He's in the ' conspiracy writing ' business. His political
 analysis is off the wall. I personally corrected some of his
 more blatant drivel here on CTRL.


I've seen your stuff, my friend.


 He and Joel Bainerman are good buddies who use each other as
 references as if the other is an expert at something when
 they are not. Bainerman uses phony names and Chamish quotes
 him under those names as well.





 These guys know who their most gullible target audience is.
 Zionist Christians, conspiracy geeks, and plenty of feeble
 minded UFO enthusiasts.

I beg your pardon, my friend.



 Sorry Mike,


No prob.


 J2


Mike

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Re: [CTRL] Puberty Starting Younger - Caucasian Girls Now Average 9.7 Years

2001-02-09 Thread Samantha L.

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In a message dated 2/9/01 11:54:24 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 ``What we're seeing is a symptom of a very serious
  public health problem,'' said
Herman-Giddens,

  noting that the long term physical and
 mental health
  impact of early puberty are not understood.


  Hormones in meat and dairy.  What else?  (We're not allowed to have
hormones in chicken in the USA, I'm pretty sure.)  A few years ago, I saw a
documentary about early puberty in Puerto - they suspected the hormones in
chicken.
  Do medical people ever figure anything out?  Sheesh.

Samantha

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Re: [CTRL] Tripp: Clintons Changed Gift System

2001-02-09 Thread Samantha L.

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  Linda Tripp is a disgrace to all humanity.  By the way, this article is
grossly inaccurate.  It states that she was fired on Inauguration day, yet
starts with her claims about logging in gifts from heads of state.  Tripp was
transferred to the Pentagon in 1994 when her boss, Bernard Nussbaum, resigned.

Samantha

http://www.newsday.com/ap/national/ap22.htm

Tripp: Clintons Changed Gift System
by DEB RIECHMANN
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Clinton and Hillary Rodham Clinton did not
always fill out the proper gift forms for presents received at the White
House and kept some of them for themselves, according to Linda Tripp, whose
tapes of conversations with Monica Lewinsky led to his impeachment.

''Most of it didn't make it to the gift unit,'' Tripp said Friday night on
''Larry King Live,'' describing a roomful of presents that had been sent to
the White House by heads of state in honor of Clinton's inauguration in
January 1993. ''I know on many occasions it went to them.''

She said that when she was filling out proper gift forms for logging in
presents sent to the White House, that she was told, in so many words: ''Take
off your Bush hat. This is the Clinton White House.''

''They didn't want any part of that,'' she said.

Tripp, who worked in the Clinton White House for a year and a half, taped her
conversations with Lewinsky that helped lead to Clinton's impeachment. Tripp
was fired from her $100,000-a-year political position on Inauguration Day.

The Clinton transition office had no comment on Tripp's remarks.

After being criticized for taking $190,000 worth of china, flatware, rugs,
televisions, sofas and other gifts with them when they left the White House,
the Clintons announced last week that they would pay for $86,000 worth of
gifts.

Then on Wednesday, the Clintons returned 19 items after some donors said
their gifts were for the White House, not the former first family. The goods
-- lamps, tables, chairs, sofas and prints -- were put on a truck in
Chappaqua, N.Y., where the Clintons have a house, and shipped to a warehouse
in a Maryland suburb of Washington where White House items are stored.

After concluding that the items the Clintons took with them were the property
of the White House, not personal gifts they were entitled to keep, the
National Park Service on Friday released an inventory of the items returned.

Questions remain about why the items ended up with the Clintons.

The Clintons have refused to comment on the National Park Service
determination. But early this week, the former president's office issued a
statement saying every item accepted by him and the former first lady, who is
now the junior Democratic senator from New York, had been identified by the
White House gift office as a present to them.

''Gifts did not leave the White House without the approval of the White House
usher's and curator's offices,'' the statement said.

White House officials who handle gifts to presidents have refused to comment.

Jim McDaniel, the National Park Service liaison to the White House, said
Thursday that he had found no evidence of clerical errors that could have
caused items meant for the White House to have been placed on the list of
personal gifts the Clintons could chose to keep.

The list released Friday did not give the value of the items returned.

About a dozen of the gifts in question, however, were itemized on the
Clintons' final financial disclosure report. The total value of those gifts
was about $28,000.

According to McDaniel's list, the Clintons returned:

--Gaming table inlaid with presidential seal, checkerboard and backgammon
board

--Sofa upholstered in teal green with bold floral

--Cream-colored TV armoire with green trim, painted with red berries on
branches

--Brass floor lamp

--Pair of table lamps with antique finish

--Print of a boy reading with a woman on a porch swing at a beach

--Print of houses with American flag on a porch

--Coffee table painted antique green

--Round center table with dark green edge

--White kitchen table

--Four white chairs with woven sections and striped seat cushions

--Two sofas, easy chair and ottoman upholstered in bold blue floral

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On the Net: National Park Service White House Web page:
http://www.nps.gov/whho/

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[CTRL] AP: House To Subpoena Library Records

2001-02-09 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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House To Subpoena Library Records

By Jesse J. Holland
Associated Press Writer
Friday, Feb. 9, 2001; 6:31 p.m. EST

WASHINGTON ­­ A congressional committee investigating President
Clinton's 11th-hour pardon of fugitive financier Marc Rich
decided Friday to subpoena records from Clinton's presidential
library fund after being told Rich's ex-wife gave it an "enormous
sum," committee sources said.

In one of his last acts as president, Clinton pardoned Rich, who
has lived in Switzerland since just before he was indicted in the
United States in 1983 on charges of tax evasion, fraud and
participation in illegal oil deals with Iran.

The House Government Reform Committee, which is investigating the
pardon, was told Wednesday by Denise Rich's lawyer that she had
given the Clinton Presidential Library Fund an "enormous sum" of
money. Ms. Rich declined to appear before the committee,
asserting her right under the Fifth Amendment not to testify
against herself.

The committee will seek to subpoena the Clinton library bank
records and Ms. Rich's bank records and is contacting the Justice
Department to try to give Ms. Rich immunity to she can be forced
to testify in front of the panel, two committee sources said
Friday.

A spokeswoman for Ms. Rich in New York City declined to comment.

"We want to know how much is 'enormous,'" committee chairman Dan
Burton, R-Ind., said at the Thursday hearing. "That's something
we need to find out and how that plays in the overall scheme of
things."

Republicans also have noted that Ms. Rich was a major contributor
to the Democratic Party and to Hillary Rodham Clinton's Senate
campaign. The White House, the Justice Department and Rich's
lawyers all have said that nothing illegal was done.

Clinton has insisted that Rich deserved the pardon. "Once the
facts are out there, people will understand what I did and why,
even if they may not agree with it," he said Tuesday.

Rich and his lawyers, which included former White House Counsel
Jack Quinn, flooded the White House with calls and letters
supporting the pardon in Clinton's last days as president,
documents show.

It may be March before the House committee holds another hearing
on the Rich pardon, officials said.

The Senate Judiciary Committee will hold its first hearing on
Clinton's pardons next Wednesday. However, Sen. Arlen Specter,
R-Pa., who called for that hearing, will not focus on Clinton's
pardon of Rich but rather on what might be done to limit the
president's pardon power in the future.

Specter is trying to build support for a constitutional amendment
that would give Congress the power to overturn a presidential
pardon. The president's power to pardon is absolute under the
Constitution and not subject to appeal.


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[CTRL] NYP: MARC RICH WAS A MOSSAD SPY FOR ISRAEL

2001-02-09 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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[This article is a few days old, but worth a look/relook. --MS]


MARC RICH WAS "A MOSSAD" SPY FOR ISRAEL

By Niles Latham

[New York Post - 5 February]: Billionaire Marc Rich lived a
double life during his 20 years as a fugitive, funneling secret
data to Israeli and other intelligence services about some
unsavory governments.

Sensational details about Rich's ultimate high-wire act as a spy
for Israel and other countries were provided to The Post as
congressional committees prepare to hold hearings into former
President Bill Clinton's controversial decision to pardon the
fugitive commodities trader.

Among the issues that will be explored by the House Oversight
Committee in its probe of the hotly disputed Rich pardon,
according to congressional sources, are:

* Rich's lengthy relationship with the Israeli Mossad. * His
numerous contacts with federal prosecutors in New York, during
which his lawyers offered to provide intelligence to the CIA in
return for leniency.

A CIA spokesman denied any relationship with Rich and said no one
from the agency participated in behind-the-scenes White House
discussions about his pardon.

But Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak repeatedly cited Rich's
contributions to Israel's "national security" in phone calls to
President Clinton last month in which he lobbied for Rich's
pardon, according to Barak spokesman Gadi Baltiansky.

And a letter from former Mossad chief Shabtai Shavit to Clinton
confirming that Rich provided "assistance" to the Israeli spy
agency that produced results "beyond the expected" was among the
documents released last week by Rich's lawyer Jack Quinn to
support the Rich pardon.

"The government of Israel considered Rich a critical ally, and
the president took that seriously when he considered the pardon
request," former White House spokesman Jake Siewert told The
Post.

Rich and partner Pincus Green fled the country in 1983 ahead of
federal charges that they ripped off taxpayers for $48 million.
Both were among the 140 people pardoned or given clemency on
Clinton's last day in office.

A storm of controversy has erupted over the unusual way the Rich
pardon was handled, as well as over the involvement of Rich's
ex-wife, Denise Rich, who raised $1 million for the Democratic
party and gave the Clintons $7,000 in furniture for their new
homes.

Accounts of Rich's life on the lam - provided by former
prosecutors, Rich's lawyers and the Israeli government - sound
like a plot from a James Bond movie as the ruthless and nimble
Rich extended his empire on five continents and built up a
business worth almost $30 billion.

He sold Iranian oil to Israel and Nigerian oil to South Africa.
He brokered the sale of North Korean arms to Iran and did several
deals involving gold, grain, nickel and tin with the Russian
Mafia and henchmen of the former Soviet Union.

And it's now clear that Rich also dealt in the most valuable
commodity of all - information. He used what one of his former
lawyers called a "mammoth information-gathering operation" to
gain entree to governments and to support his businesses.

"He was one of the biggest commodities traders in the world and
had offices and active operations in all sorts of countries. He
had friends in all sorts of places - high and low - and he
certainly was in a position to provide sensitive information from
a number of places," said Martin Auerbach, one of two former
assistant U.S. attorneys who prosecuted Rich and tracked him
throughout the years.

Lawyers close to the case say there is no doubt that Rich had
contacts with spies and security services throughout Europe and
the Middle East. Those contacts not only helped him make money
but may have also helped him stay one step ahead of U.S. lawmen
trying to capture him, lawyers say.

Former New York Police Commissioner Howard Safir said he tried
several times to trap Rich and bring him back to the United
States, when he headed the U.S. Marshals Service, but Rich
constantly eluded the federal dragnet.

Shavit, who headed the Mossad from 1989 to 1996, provided a
fascinating glimpse of Rich's role in the murky netherworld of
spies. In his letter to Clinton released by Quinn's office,
Shavit said that he had a long relationship with Rich.

"We requested his assistance in looking for MIAs and his help in
the rescue and evacuation of Jews from enemy countries," Shavit
wrote.

"Mr. Rich always agreed and used his extensive network of
contacts in these countries to produce results that sometimes
were beyond the expected." Murkier still were Rich's efforts to
become a superspy for the CIA.

During his intrigue-filled exile, Rich's lawyers made numerous
approaches to government prosecutors, offering intelligence to
the CIA about the terrorists and rogue governments he dealt with
in return for being allowed to return to the United States
without being subjected to a jail sentence, Auerbach said.

"Whether or not he provided the information, it never rose to a
level 

[CTRL] AP: Tripp Rats on Clintons

2001-02-09 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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Tripp: Clintons Changed Gift System
By: Deb Riechmann

(AP) President Clinton and Hillary Rodham Clinton did not always
fill out the proper gift forms for presents received at the White
House and kept some of them for themselves, according to Linda
Tripp, whose tapes of conversations with Monica Lewinsky led to
his impeachment.

''Most of it didn't make it to the gift unit,'' Tripp said Friday
night on ''Larry King Live,'' describing a roomful of presents
that had been sent to the White House by heads of state in honor
of Clinton's inauguration in January 1993. ''I know on many
occasions it went to them.''

She said that when she was filling out proper gift forms for
logging in presents sent to the White House, that she was told,
in so many words: ''Take off your Bush hat. This is the Clinton
White House.''

''They didn't want any part of that,'' she said.

Tripp, who worked in the Clinton White House for a year and a
half, taped her conversations with Lewinsky that helped lead to
Clinton's impeachment. Tripp was fired from her $100,000-a-year
political position on Inauguration Day.

The Clinton transition office had no comment on Tripp's remarks.

After being criticized for taking $190,000 worth of china,
flatware, rugs, televisions, sofas and other gifts with them when
they left the White House, the Clintons announced last week that
they would pay for $86,000 worth of gifts.

Then on Wednesday, the Clintons returned 19 items after some
donors said their gifts were for the White House, not the former
first family. The goods -- lamps, tables, chairs, sofas and
prints -- were put on a truck in Chappaqua, N.Y., where the
Clintons have a house, and shipped to a warehouse in a Maryland
suburb of Washington where White House items are stored.

After concluding that the items the Clintons took with them were
the property of the White House, not personal gifts they were
entitled to keep, the National Park Service on Friday released an
inventory of the items returned.

Questions remain about why the items ended up with the Clintons.

The Clintons have refused to comment on the National Park Service
determination. But early this week, the former president's office
issued a statement saying every item accepted by him and the
former first lady, who is now the junior Democratic senator from
New York, had been identified by the White House gift office as a
present to them.

''Gifts did not leave the White House without the approval of the
White House usher's and curator's offices,'' the statement said.

White House officials who handle gifts to presidents have refused
to comment.

Jim McDaniel, the National Park Service liaison to the White
House, said Thursday that he had found no evidence of clerical
errors that could have caused items meant for the White House to
have been placed on the list of personal gifts the Clintons could
chose to keep.

The list released Friday did not give the value of the items
returned.

About a dozen of the gifts in question, however, were itemized on
the Clintons' final financial disclosure report. The total value
of those gifts was about $28,000.

According to McDaniel's list, the Clintons returned:

--Gaming table inlaid with presidential seal, checkerboard and
backgammon board

--Sofa upholstered in teal green with bold floral

--Cream-colored TV armoire with green trim, painted with red
berries on branches

--Brass floor lamp

--Pair of table lamps with antique finish

--Print of a boy reading with a woman on a porch swing at a beach

--Print of houses with American flag on a porch

--Coffee table painted antique green

--Round center table with dark green edge

--White kitchen table

--Four white chairs with woven sections and striped seat cushions

--Two sofas, easy chair and ottoman upholstered in bold blue
floral


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   Hormones in meat and dairy.  What else?  (We're not allowed to have
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 documentary about early puberty in Puerto - they suspected the hormones in
 chicken.
   Do medical people ever figure anything out?  Sheesh.

No they are in the pocket of the pharma-pseudical industry.

That is to say, many of the medicines they patent are false (pseudo). And
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[CTRL] NYT: Documents Show a Complex Campaign to Win a Pardon

2001-02-09 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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NYTimes

February 10, 2001

Documents Show a Complex Campaign to Win a Pardon

By ALISON LEIGH COWAN

WASHINGTON, Feb.  9 — Lawyers and advisers to the financier Marc
Rich joined his former wife in choreographing a complex legal and
political campaign to win a last-minute pardon from President
Bill Clinton, whose own legal advisers opposed the pardon, newly
released documents and interviews show.

The effort, which drew in operatives in Israel and Switzerland as
well as a Washington team that included a former finance chairman
of the Democratic National Committee, culminated in Mr.
Clinton's granting a pardon that has raised questions of improper
influence.  The Rich pardon was the subject of a confrontational
Congressional hearing on Thursday, with more hearings planned.

A spokesman for the House Committee on Government Reform said
today that the panel would issue subpoenas next week for the bank
records of Denise Rich and the list of donors to the Clinton
library after Ms.  Rich's lawyer disclosed that Ms.  Rich had
contributed to the library.

"In every investigation of this sort where money is involved or
contributions are involved," the spokesman, Mark Corallo, said,
"the only way to establish any kind of causal relationship is to
look at bank records."

Ms.  Rich, who refused to testify at the hearing and cited her
Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination, played a larger
role in the effort than previously known, the documents show,
although much of it was done at the urging of her former
husband's lawyers.  Besides writing at least one letter to Mr.
Clinton in support of her ex-husband's pardon, and following up
with a phone call, Ms.  Rich also buttonholed Mr.  Clinton about
the pardon at a White House party on Dec.  20 after wresting him
away from Barbra Streisand, a witness said.

Ms.  Rich and her friend Beth Dozoretz, the former finance
chairman of the Democratic National Committee and a close friend
and big financial supporter of both Bill and Hillary Rodham
Clinton, then monitored pardon developments together from Ms.
Rich's home in Aspen, Colo.

According to e-mail messages released on Thursday by the House
committee, Ms.  Dozoretz spoke to Mr. Clinton on Jan.  10 about
the pardon on the telephone and told Ms.  Rich while they were in
Colorado that Mr.  Clinton "wants to do it."

One hitch, she reported, was that he had to do "all possible to
turn around" the White House counsels who were opposed.

Ms.  Rich's lawyer has also told the government committee that
she gave an "enormous sum of money" to the Clinton library.  A
Democratic fund-raiser today amended an earlier statement to say
that she pledged $450,000 in three transactions between July 1998
and May 2000.

The stacks of time-stamped e-mail messages yield a rare glimpse
into a process with little oversight. Presidential pardons are
irrevocable and can be awarded without explanation.

The e-mail messages show that Mr.  Rich's allies were taking no
chances.  In trying to persuade Mr.  Clinton to proceed over the
objections of influential aides, they armed him with testimonials
from public figures and worked up until the last minute to come
up with more connections to make the point, sometimes with
hilarious fervor.

In one e-mail message, dated Dec.  30, Mr.  Rich's United States
lawyers ask whether Leah Rabin, the widow of the former Israeli
prime minister, might be approachable.  Avner Azulay, Mr.
Rich's point man in Israel, responded: "Not a bad idea.  The
problem is how do we contact her?  She died last November."

In another flurry, Robert Fink, Mr.  Rich's longtime lawyer in
New York, reported on Jan.  2 that he heard that the pardon
request was being taken seriously inside the White House but
lacked someone inside eager to push it.  "We need a rabbi among
the people in the counsel's office," the e- mail message reads.

Mr.  Azulay, having spent the previous six weeks compiling a book
of letters from Israeli and American Jewish leaders, took the
request literally and responded: "I don't understand the comment
about the rabbi. Our book is full of rabbis.  Could you get more
specific?"

Much of the strategy was reflected in a Nov.  19 memorandum from
Mr. Fink to the other members of the team: Jack Quinn, the
Washington insider whom Mr.  Rich hired nearly two years ago;
Kitty Behan, another of Mr.  Rich's lawyers in Washington;
Gershon Kekst, a public relations executive in New York; and Mr.
Azulay, the former intelligence operative who runs Mr.  Rich's
foundation in Israel.

The memorandum calls for finding someone "of high moral
authority" to press the case, a person who turns out to be Elie
Wiesel, and discusses the "need for secrecy." It also contains
reminders to consider "maximizing use of D.R.," an apparent
reference to Ms.  Rich, and "How to deal with P.G.," a reference
to Pincus Green, Mr.  Rich's longtime partner who was also
pardoned.

By Dec.  27, however, the strategists were considering 

[CTRL] From Chile: No Hollywood connection for Rich, apparently (fwd)

2001-02-09 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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-- Forwarded message --
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 00:27:55 -0800
From: Scott Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: From Chile: No Hollywood connection for Rich, apparently

http://www.quepasa.cl/revista/1503/32.html in Spanish...


Used AltaVista to translate that page, got the following.  What
I've been looking for is more info on the "20th Century Fox"
connection alleged in my wacko post a few minutes ago.  I've
wondered if Rich has a Hollywood connection, which would be
another degree-of-freedom to Clinton (and another reason to
ridicule Clinton's comment that he thought Rich was a
Republican). So comes this (translated, badly):

--
At the beginning of the eighty, the life of Rich went tailwind.
During a short period Fox with Martin entered the property of
Twenty Century Davis, trying to diversify his operations, but the
relation was broken soon and Rich returned to the mineral
commercialization, its fort.
--

I read that as: Rich wanted to diversity in the '80s; got in bed
with 20th Century Fox.  Didn't work out, and he went back to
mining.


--Scott


It intrigues international

One of the 250 richer men in the United States and also one of
the most looked for by FBI in the world, for 25 years it has been
having businesses in Chile.

Marc David Rich is one of the businessmen more known in EE. UU.

and Europe. It counts on a fortune that borders US$ 1. 000
million, have five nationalities, operate in more than 40
countries, married with one of the most important artists in the
country of the North, are one of the figures more hated by
jerarcas Russian and appear more in the list of the personages
looked for by FBI. As if this was not enough, for 25 years it has
been having businesses in Chile.

Of the crimes that FBI accuses Rich they emphasize: two processes
by evasion of taxes by a total of US$ 48 million, 15 frauds to
post office and two judgments by blackmail. A fame that has been
distributed between several countries and that its businesses
like trader of minerals and petroleum has not made an impression
on, where has gotten to move volumes by US$ 13 annual billion.
And although for 16 years it has not been stepping on American
territory, several articles in diverse international publications
and their face printed in posters of FBI, that circulate in
Internet, are the living test that North American justice has not
forgotten it.

In all the international reviews - police officers, economic
policies and the word more used to describe to Rich are the one
of " dark ". And something of that can be found in its life. It
was born in Antwerp, Belgium, in 1934 and to short age it had to
leave that country as soon as the Nazis invaded it. One settled
in Spain and today it has that nationality - in addition to the
Israeli, the Swiss, Belgian and the American. In 1941, Rich and
its family let Spain to go away to EE. UU. There it began to work
with Philipp Brothers, one of the companies of trader of more
important commodities of New York. In 1974, Rich and its friend
Pincus Green - another personage who appears in the list of the
FBI- founded Rich  Co. It did not spend long time before their
businesses grew and that the fame of its activities will take the
course that would make it famous and powerful, mainly, after
founding Glencore, its company of head. Epoca when it begins to
internationalize his operations and their eyes installs in Chile.
In that same period of expansion it contracts marriage with
Denise Rich, a promise of the North American popular song, that
soon was transformed into a star of farándula, with several
postulations to the Grammy, discharges social entailments and
placing his name between the 30 mayores donors to the campaign of
Bill Clinton, with US$ 255 thousands.

At the beginning of the eighty, the life of Rich went tailwind.
During a short period Fox with Martin entered the property of
Twenty Century Davis, trying to diversify his operations, but the
relation was broken soon and Rich returned to the mineral
commercialization, its fort. Anxious of being able and money to
finance a full routine of luxuries, it committed some key errors.
First, it continued negotiating with the Iranian government, in
spite of the embargo decreed after the famous crisis of the
hostages at the beginning of the 80. Soon, it broke the embargo
against South Africa, adjudging itself another point in against
with the American government.

Finally, in 1983, the great jury initiates a process against Rich
by evasion of tax and blackmail, running the risk of a pain of
more than 300 years of prison and the payment of more of US$ 174
million, everything a record for that time. Before the judicial
process finished, Rich fled from EE. UU. and one settled in
Israel, from where one at the top stayed of Glencore, that it got
to become one of traders greater of the globe, with a invoicing
of US$ 32 billion and assets by US$ 7 billion.

So important it was his influence that 

[CTRL] NYP: RENO'S NO. 2 COMES CLEAN: I BLEW IT

2001-02-09 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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RENO'S NO. 2 COMES CLEAN: I BLEW IT

Friday,February 9,2001
By VINCENT MORRIS


WASHINGTON - President Clinton's deputy attorney general admitted
yesterday that he goofed when he gave the green light for the
explosive pardon for billionaire Marc Rich.

"Knowing everything I know, I would have recommended against it,"
said Eric Holder, who led what he conceded was a rushed - through
no fault of his own, he insisted - legal review of Clinton's
last-minute pardons.

He also acknowledged lobbying Rich's pardon lawyer, Jack Quinn, a
close ally of then-Vice President Al Gore, for a promotion to
attorney general if Gore won the election.

But Holder, who until a week ago was the No.  2 man in Janet
Reno's Justice Department, maintained he was frozen out of the
back-room schmoozing and extensive e-mail paper trail that made
the pardon a reality.

The admission by Holder came on Day 1 of congressional hearings
on the Rich pardon.  The lawmakers are trying to determine
whether Democratic campaign donations played a role.

Clinton denies any impropriety, but even Democrats are saying the
pardon was a big mistake and aren't making any effort to defend
it. Republicans are looking for more sinister motives.

"Everything about it seems sleazy," said Rep.  Christopher Shays
(R-Conn.), a respected moderate who sharply questioned Quinn's
ethics in using his White House connections to get a fugitive
pardoned.

Perhaps the most emotional moment of the hearing came when
Democratic Rep.  Elijah Cummings, who represents a predominantly
black district in Prince Georges County, Md., said the fact that
Rich had it much easier than "the little guys I represent" shows
why many blacks feel there is a double standard of justice in
America.

"It's one thing to stand trial.  It's a whole other thing to
evade justice.  My constituents have a major problem with that,
and I do, too," Cummings said.

Although Rich remains in hiding, his lawyer argued the pardon was
100 percent justified and that overzealous prosecutors trumped up
their case against his client in the first place.

"I remain to this day absolutely and unshakably convinced that
the prosecutors constructed a legal house of cards," said Quinn,
an ex-White House lawyer.  Rich paid him $330,000 to lobby for
the pardon.

Former prosecutor Martin Auerbach retorted that the case was "all
aces." He has argued that Rich fled the country precisely because
he was afraid he'd be convicted.

Dueling accounts of the pardon fueled an eight-hour hearing that
will be repeated in the Senate next Wednesday.Sen. Arlen Specter
(R-Pa.) favors a constitutional amendment, also backed by former
Democratic Vice President Walter Mondale, that would allow
pardons to be rescinded when it is apparent that a president has
abused his power.

Rich fled the country to avoid trial on counts of racketeering,
wire fraud, income-tax evasion and illegal oil trading with Iran.


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[CTRL] Gun Control

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On Fri, 9 Feb 2001 15:56:56 -0800 (PST), Wyr Twister [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

Dear Senator McCain:

I was greatly dismayed to see the Roll Call article
(2/8/01) which
reported on the gun control "compromise" that you and
Joe Lieberman
are fashioning.  I would hope that you would CEASE and
DESIST
immediately from selling out gun owners' rights.

The Second Amendment states that the people have a
right to keep and
bear arms that "shall not be infringed."  What part of
"not
infringed" don't you understand?  All of the proposals
you are
pushing will chip away at the rights of decent,
law-abiding
citizens.

Should you succeed -- and I will do everything in my
power to oppose
your efforts -- I want you to know that you will
greatly undermine
the freedoms that Americans now enjoy.  Furthermore, I
should inform
you that I will never support a candidate who
consistently tries to
undermine the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

Yours for the Second Amendment,
Troy Turner



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