date:20010401

http://news.independent.co.uk/

Now Bush wants to scrap deal on internet privacy

By Charles Arthur Technology Editor

31 March 2001George Bush is trying to reverse an agreement between America 
and Europe intended to ensure the privacy of individuals buying goods over 
the internet, claiming that it could be "burdensome" on US multinational 
businesses.

The new administration is pressing for a delay  at least  of the treaty 
that was hammered out last year after months of negotiation between the 
Clinton administration and the European Union, to safeguard the online 
privacy of European internet users.

The move mirrors the Bush administration's announcement earlier this week 
that it will not implement the Kyoto treaty, intended to tackle the pollution 
that causes climate change, and suggests that America is becoming 
increasingly aggressive in pushing its agenda on the world.

The Europe-wide laws on data privacy make it an offence for a European 
company to pass information about customers  such as names, addresses, 
e-mail, telephone or credit details  to outside organisations that do not 
meet EU "data privacy" guidelines. The plan was to stop unscrupulous 
companies bothering people in Europe with unwanted sales pitches.

But America was also caught in that description because it has no data 
privacy laws. The agreement would have defined some US internet companies as 
a "safe harbour" for European data, as long as they met certain standards.

That agreement has now hit choppy water. The Bush administration's Treasury 
and Commerce department has complained in a letter to the EU that the measure 
is a threat to transatlantic e-commerce, and could burden website operators 
with red tape.

Ian Bourne, strategic policy manager of the UK information commissioner's 
office (formerly the data protection registrar) said: "The safe harbour 
system is meant to be simple, cheap and easy for US firms to sign up to. If a 
company like Hewlett-Packard could do it, why couldn't others?"

Mike Bradford, director of compliance and data protection at the British 
credit-checking company Experian, said: "If the US tears up the safe harbour 
agreement, it takes us back to the situation where every individual person 
has to agree before their data can be passed to a company in the US." 
Experian is one of the biggest credit-checking companies and receives many 
requests for data from America.
Jodie Sangster of the UK's Direct Marketing Assocation said it would be "very 
disappointing" if the agreement was taken away, adding: "It will make it much 
harder for European businesses to trade data with the US." Such trade is 
potentially worth millions of pounds.

The Bush administration has complained that meeting the EU-like data privacy 
requirements would be hardest on financial services companies. But Ms 
Sangster rebutted that, saying: "Companies in Europe find that data privacy 
law doesn't get in the way; but you have to be a lot more transparent when 
you ask an internet user to provide data ... and give them the option for 
that data not to be used."

American politicians complain that the EU's data privacy rules are tantamount 
to a trade barrier because they could prevent US companies from marketing 
directly to European residents using data acquired in Europe.

[CTRL] Solar bursts threaten to knock out power grids

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/science/story.jsp?story=63918

Solar bursts threaten to knock out power grids

By Charles Arthur Technology Editor

31 March 2001
Satellite and radio signals, and electricity power grids, could be disrupted 
by a huge outpouring of energy from the Sun this week.

Two "coronal mass ejections", containing as much energy as thousands of 
atomic bombs, exploded from the surface of the Sun earlier this week, after 
building up near the biggest sunspot seen on the star for the past decade. 
Now scientists believe there is a significant chance that on arriving  due 
last night or today  they could knock out sensitive electromagnetic systems 
orbiting the Earth, disrupt the ionosphere, which bounces radio waves around 
the globe, and even affect power lines at ground level.

Dr Steve Fossey, of the Mill Hill Observatory at University College London, 
said: "Satellites are at risk because these ejections contain highly charged 
electromagnetic particles, which can knock out the components inside them. It 
can also affect the ionosphere, which could cause the aurorae, or northern 
lights."

Sunspots appear and disappear on the Sun in an 11-year cycle that is now at 
its climax  marked by the magnetic poles of the star flipping over, so that 
its magnetic "north" becomes south and vice-versa. Dr Fossey said: "The 
flipping happened in February, which marks the solar maximum."

The associated coronal mass ejections are billion-ton clouds of electrified, 
magnetic gas that solar eruptions hurl into space at speeds ranging from a 
few hundred to 2,000 kilometres per second (4.5 million mph). The latest have 
been thrown out from the surface near Noaa 9393, a sunspot that first 
appeared a month ago on the Sun's surface and that is so large that it is 
visible with the naked eye  though nobody should look directly at the Sun, 
because that would cause immediate and permanent damage to the eye.

Sunspots appear black against the Sun's surface; they are actually cooler 
than their surroundings  about 3,000C rather than 5,500C. Scientists reckon 
they are caused when magnetic fields below the star's surface reach the 
exterior, where the motion creates a huge store of magnetic energy that is 
eventually released in an explosive coronal mass ejection.

Some astronomers think that the two ejections from earlier this week will be 
followed by more intense ones from Noaa 9393. Joe Elrod, of the US National 
Solar Observatory at Sacramento, New Mexico, said: "The two small flares may 
be the precursors to the big one."

Re: [CTRL] Anti-reparations ad sparks censorship debate atcampusesJ2

2001-04-01 Thread Nurev Ind.


-Caveat Lector-

John Cone wrote:

 -Caveat Lector-

 --- "Nurev Ind." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  About the slavery reparations lawsuit:
  "It is EXTREMELY dangerous and divisive.
  It will set race relations back, and will
  force an anti Black backlash."
 ___
 Nakano comments:
 Have you considered that this is precisely
 what it is intended to do?

 The real purpose has nothing to do with
 "making things right" for the decendants of
 black slaves.  It has everything to do with
 arousing more anger between blacks and whites
 in America.  This is also the purpose behind
 such controversies as the Confederate Flag
 being displayed in South Carolina.

  Nakano


I don't think so. I think it's just what it
appears to be, an opportunistic grab for money.
As . for the other stuff you mention, I don't
believe anyone plans this. What happens is that
divisive situations arise organically, and THEN
different groups exploit them for any variety of
reasons.

The African American community has a long history
of sleazy scumbags in leadership. With the few
exceptions like Martin King, and DuBois, and
especially the great Paul Robeson, and even
Malcolm X (sp?). Most of them were race hustlers
hustling their own community.

This time, because we live live in a Liberal era,
this crop of race hustlers have latched on to
' reparations ' as a money making scheme. But it's
really dumb scheme. The real recipients of just
compensation died out in the last century.

This will just piss people off.

Joshua2

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-Caveat Lector-

Quoted from:
  Mind Control  Timothy McVeigh's Rise
   from "Robotic" Soldier to Mad Bomber
 By Alex Constantine

"He (McVeigh)  complained that federal agents had
left him with an unexplained scar on his posterior,
implanted him with a microchip. It was painful, he
said, to sit on the chip."

" "He was real different," Todd Regier, a plumber,
told the Boston Globe. "Kind of cold. He was almost
like a robot.""



The popular conception was spun by the press corps
like a clay urn: McVeigh, the volatile minute man, was
so bitter after failing to make the Army's "elite"
Special Forces, so stuffed full of the froth of the
Turner Diaries, that he vented his rage on the
Alfred Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City.

But Captain Terry Guild, McVeigh's' former platoon
leader, told reporters that the failure to become a
Green Beret left the Iraq War veteran "upset. Not
angry. Just very, very disappointed." In the Army, he
demonstrated a willingness to carry out orders,
any orders. He trained on his own time while other
soldiers languished in their bunks or caroused at the
PX. As a civilian,  Timothy McVeigh continued to dwell
on the military. In 1992 he took a job with Burns
International Security Services in
Buffalo and was assigned to the security detail at
Calspan, a Pentagon contractor that conducts
classified research in advanced aerospace rocketry
and electronic warfare. Al Salandra, a spokesman
for Calspan, told reporters that McVeigh was
"a model employee."

"He was real different," Todd Regier, a plumber, told
the Boston Globe. "Kind of cold. He was almost like a
robot."

Within a few months, his manager planned on promoting
McVeigh to the supervisory level. But McVeigh's
bitterness, once directed at the military, "was
becoming directed at a much larger, more ubiquitous
enemy." It was in Buffalo, as a civilian, that
McVeigh's rage peaked. He complained that federal
agents had left him with an unexplained scar on his
posterior, implanted him with a microchip. It was
painful, he said, to sit on the chip.

It's conceivable, given the current state-of-the-art
in classified mind control technology, that McVeigh
had been drawn into an experimental black project.

Jeff Camp, who worked as a guard with McVeigh in
upstate New York after high school, told Newsweek that
the bomber was "a very strange person. It was like he
had two different personalities." The press has
ignored the rise of mind control operations and
technology, but electronic monitoring of the brain has
been perfected in research laboratories more secretive

than the military science units that once tested
nuclear isotopes on crippled children.

The generals keep it close to their armored vests, but
the miniature implantable monitor was declassified
long ago. Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque,
New Mexico, for instance, markets a sensor implant
sealed inside a "hermetic biocompatible package" that
runs on a tiny power coil, complete with a
programmable sensor and telemetry circuits. Sandia's
sales literature notes that the implant's design "is
founded on technology originally developed for
weapons."

The Pentagon's electromagnetic arsenal is cloaked by
the "nonlethal defense" program the media has been
busily selling as a "humane" alternative to
conventional death-dealing conventional arms.

From the Pentagon's electromagnetic underworld came
Timothy McVeigh, the "robotic" recruit obsessed with
visions of Waco and Ruby Ridge. If he had indeed been
implanted, McVeigh marched in step with a small army
of glassy-eyed assassins.

Advances in 'overhead' sensors - satellites and UAVs
(Unmanned Aerospace Vehicles) included - will create
opportunities not only to detect targets but to track
them as they move. In (U.S. Air Force Joint Chief of
Staff) General Fogelman's view, "this is
kind of a revolution in warfare,"
- Interview with General Ronald R. Fogelman, Jane's
Defense Weekly, 1995

McVeigh's rage at a target "larger" and "more
ubiquitous" than the military was incited at Calspan,
within a year of his failed Special Forces entrance
examination, several months AFTER leaving the Army.

Calspan and electromagnetic mind control both have
roots at the same Ivy League institution - Cornell
University, Ithaca, New York. Calspan was founded in
1946 as Cornell Aeronautical Laboratory. And Cornell
was also the contract base for the CIA's "Human
Ecology Fund," a fount of financial support for
classified experimentation at the country's leading
universities.

Cornell Aerospace was reorganized in 1972 and renamed
Calspan. Six years later, the firm was acquired by
Arvin Industries.
Recently, Arvin-Calspan merged with Space Industries
International (SII), a commercial space- flight
venture based in Texas.
During the Reagan-Bush era, SII expanded from a staff
of 33 to over 2,700 employees.

Timothy McVeigh was assigned to the conglomerate's
Advanced Technology Center in Buffalo,

[CTRL] ALMOST LIKE A ROBOT


-Caveat Lector-

Quoted from:
  Mind Control  Timothy McVeigh's Rise
   from "Robotic" Soldier to Mad Bomber
 By Alex Constantine

"He (McVeigh)  complained that federal agents had
left him with an unexplained scar on his posterior,
implanted him with a microchip. It was painful, he
said, to sit on the chip."

" "He was real different," Todd Regier, a plumber,
told the Boston Globe. "Kind of cold. He was almost
like a robot.""



The popular conception was spun by the press corps
like a clay urn: McVeigh, the volatile minute man, was
so bitter after failing to make the Army's "elite"
Special Forces, so stuffed full of the froth of the
Turner Diaries, that he vented his rage on the
Alfred Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City.

But Captain Terry Guild, McVeigh's' former platoon
leader, told reporters that the failure to become a
Green Beret left the Iraq War veteran "upset. Not
angry. Just very, very disappointed." In the Army, he
demonstrated a willingness to carry out orders,
any orders. He trained on his own time while other
soldiers languished in their bunks or caroused at the
PX. As a civilian,  Timothy McVeigh continued to dwell
on the military. In 1992 he took a job with Burns
International Security Services in
Buffalo and was assigned to the security detail at
Calspan, a Pentagon contractor that conducts
classified research in advanced aerospace rocketry
and electronic warfare. Al Salandra, a spokesman
for Calspan, told reporters that McVeigh was
"a model employee."

"He was real different," Todd Regier, a plumber, told
the Boston Globe. "Kind of cold. He was almost like a
robot."

Within a few months, his manager planned on promoting
McVeigh to the supervisory level. But McVeigh's
bitterness, once directed at the military, "was
becoming directed at a much larger, more ubiquitous
enemy." It was in Buffalo, as a civilian, that
McVeigh's rage peaked. He complained that federal
agents had left him with an unexplained scar on his
posterior, implanted him with a microchip. It was
painful, he said, to sit on the chip.

It's conceivable, given the current state-of-the-art
in classified mind control technology, that McVeigh
had been drawn into an experimental black project.

Jeff Camp, who worked as a guard with McVeigh in
upstate New York after high school, told Newsweek that
the bomber was "a very strange person. It was like he
had two different personalities." The press has
ignored the rise of mind control operations and
technology, but electronic monitoring of the brain has
been perfected in research laboratories more secretive

than the military science units that once tested
nuclear isotopes on crippled children.

The generals keep it close to their armored vests, but
the miniature implantable monitor was declassified
long ago. Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque,
New Mexico, for instance, markets a sensor implant
sealed inside a "hermetic biocompatible package" that
runs on a tiny power coil, complete with a
programmable sensor and telemetry circuits. Sandia's
sales literature notes that the implant's design "is
founded on technology originally developed for
weapons."

The Pentagon's electromagnetic arsenal is cloaked by
the "nonlethal defense" program the media has been
busily selling as a "humane" alternative to
conventional death-dealing conventional arms.

From the Pentagon's electromagnetic underworld came
Timothy McVeigh, the "robotic" recruit obsessed with
visions of Waco and Ruby Ridge. If he had indeed been
implanted, McVeigh marched in step with a small army
of glassy-eyed assassins.

Advances in 'overhead' sensors - satellites and UAVs
(Unmanned Aerospace Vehicles) included - will create
opportunities not only to detect targets but to track
them as they move. In (U.S. Air Force Joint Chief of
Staff) General Fogelman's view, "this is
kind of a revolution in warfare,"
- Interview with General Ronald R. Fogelman, Jane's
Defense Weekly, 1995

McVeigh's rage at a target "larger" and "more
ubiquitous" than the military was incited at Calspan,
within a year of his failed Special Forces entrance
examination, several months AFTER leaving the Army.

Calspan and electromagnetic mind control both have
roots at the same Ivy League institution - Cornell
University, Ithaca, New York. Calspan was founded in
1946 as Cornell Aeronautical Laboratory. And Cornell
was also the contract base for the CIA's "Human
Ecology Fund," a fount of financial support for
classified experimentation at the country's leading
universities.

Cornell Aerospace was reorganized in 1972 and renamed
Calspan. Six years later, the firm was acquired by
Arvin Industries.
Recently, Arvin-Calspan merged with Space Industries
International (SII), a commercial space- flight
venture based in Texas.
During the Reagan-Bush era, SII expanded from a staff
of 33 to over 2,700 employees.

Timothy McVeigh was assigned to the conglomerate's
Advanced Technology Center in Buffalo,

[CTRL] 'Cops Bush team violated rights of inaugural protesters'

http://www.workers.org/ww/2001/dcsuit0329.html



Via Workers World News Service
Reprinted from the March 29, 2001
issue of Workers World newspaper
-
IAC vs. UNITED STATES

'Cops  Bush team violated rights of inaugural protesters'

By Brian Becker
Attorneys representing the International Action Center and other
organizations and individuals charged that the Washington police force and
federal law enforcement agencies violated the free speech rights of
protestors at the Jan. 20 counter-inaugural demonstration.

The J20 lawsuit represents a groundbreaking legal and political effort to
challenge the common use of unconstitutional police tactics against
progressive political demonstrations throughout the United States.

"It is obvious to all the activists in the anti-globalization and anti-racist
movements that the police have opted for a new strategy since Seattle that is
aimed at repressing this new movement before it blossoms into a massive
struggle," said Larry Holmes, a co-director of the IAC.

Tens of thousands of people protested on Jan. 20 in Washington against racist
disenfranchisement and the death penalty, in support of Mumia Abu-Jamal, in
defense of women's rights and in opposition to George W. Bush's right-wing
program.

IAC, et al v. United States

A long list of allegations of police misconduct was included in the March 15
amended complaint to a federal lawsuit, "International Action Center, et al
v. The United States," which was originally filed in a U.S. District Court in
the days before the massive J20 demonstrations.

The suit charges that law enforcement agencies used unconstitutional tactics,
including "agents provocateurs" who carried out unprovoked felonious assaults
using pepper spray on peaceful demonstrators; detained hundreds of people
before they reached the site of the demonstration at Freedom Plaza; and
allowed the Presidential Inaugural Committee to take control of a security
checkpoint to prevent or delay protesters from approaching Freedom Plaza.

The suit charges that the police Civil Disturbance Units' tactics on Jan. 20
included the "routine use of paramilitary force and threat of force; mobile
police and riot lines to splinter groups ... administrative detention, false
imprisonment and false arrest in which the CDUs will, after splintering
groups, trap them on all sides, seize, detain and arrest demonstrators in the
absence of probable cause."

Lawyers from the Partnership for Civil Justice and the National Lawyers Guild
filed the amended lawsuit. The suit was originally argued in a Jan. 18
hearing before U.S. District Judge Gladys Kessler. The protest organizers had
gone to court charging that the police security plans for the inaugural event
were being used as a pretext to inhibit, obstruct or prevent anti-Bush
demonstrators from exercising their right to free speech.

The judge ruled on Jan. 19 that the police security plan was "constitutional"
but insisted that the demonstrators be given equal treatment with Bush
supporters. While the tens of thousands of anti-Bush demonstrators had an
overwhelming presence along the inaugural parade route, they encountered a
wide variety of police attacks on Jan. 20.

One of the most dramatic allegations in the amended complaint charges that
"agent provocateurs," presumably undercover cops, unleashed a fierce,
unprovoked attack along the parade route at the Navy Memorial at 7th and D
Street. They pepper sprayed protesters directly in the eyes and mouth. Many
were injured in the attack that lasted several minutes. Other plainclothes
agents carried out unprovoked beatings of demonstrators.

The pepper-spraying attack and beatings by undercover police agents are
graphically depicted in video footage taken by demonstrators.

'We can win!'

The lawyers and IAC representatives held a news conference on March 15 to
explain why they are going forward with the free speech lawsuit. The
Washington Post, Associated Press, ABC-TV, ABC Radio and other media attended
the news conference.

"We are challenging the tactics, deployment and use of Civil Disturbance
Units by the D.C. Metropolitan Police Department, acting in conjunction with
federal law enforcement authorities. People are being presumptively treated
as criminals merely because they are exercising their constitutional right to
demonstrate and express their political views," said Mara Verheyden-Hilliard,
a lawyer with the Partnership for Civil Justice.

Protest organizers contended in their original suit that the checkpoints were
not really about "presidential security" but a pretext to prevent
demonstrators from getting equal access to the parade route.

In her Jan. 19 ruling, Judge Kessler allowed the government to proceed with
the use of a security plan that included the unprecedented use of checkpoints
designed to screen, frisk and search hundreds of thousands of people outside
of the inaugural parade route.

But her ruling was explicitly premised on the

[CTRL] ALMOST LIKE A ROBOT


-Caveat Lector-

Quoted from:
  Mind Control  Timothy McVeigh's Rise
   from "Robotic" Soldier to Mad Bomber
 By Alex Constantine

"He (McVeigh)  complained that federal agents had
left him with an unexplained scar on his posterior,
implanted him with a microchip. It was painful, he
said, to sit on the chip."

" "He was real different," Todd Regier, a plumber,
told the Boston Globe. "Kind of cold. He was almost
like a robot.""



The popular conception was spun by the press corps
like a clay urn: McVeigh, the volatile minute man, was
so bitter after failing to make the Army's "elite"
Special Forces, so stuffed full of the froth of the
Turner Diaries, that he vented his rage on the
Alfred Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City.

But Captain Terry Guild, McVeigh's' former platoon
leader, told reporters that the failure to become a
Green Beret left the Iraq War veteran "upset. Not
angry. Just very, very disappointed." In the Army, he
demonstrated a willingness to carry out orders,
any orders. He trained on his own time while other
soldiers languished in their bunks or caroused at the
PX. As a civilian,  Timothy McVeigh continued to dwell
on the military. In 1992 he took a job with Burns
International Security Services in
Buffalo and was assigned to the security detail at
Calspan, a Pentagon contractor that conducts
classified research in advanced aerospace rocketry
and electronic warfare. Al Salandra, a spokesman
for Calspan, told reporters that McVeigh was
"a model employee."

"He was real different," Todd Regier, a plumber, told
the Boston Globe. "Kind of cold. He was almost like a
robot."

Within a few months, his manager planned on promoting
McVeigh to the supervisory level. But McVeigh's
bitterness, once directed at the military, "was
becoming directed at a much larger, more ubiquitous
enemy." It was in Buffalo, as a civilian, that
McVeigh's rage peaked. He complained that federal
agents had left him with an unexplained scar on his
posterior, implanted him with a microchip. It was
painful, he said, to sit on the chip.

It's conceivable, given the current state-of-the-art
in classified mind control technology, that McVeigh
had been drawn into an experimental black project.

Jeff Camp, who worked as a guard with McVeigh in
upstate New York after high school, told Newsweek that
the bomber was "a very strange person. It was like he
had two different personalities." The press has
ignored the rise of mind control operations and
technology, but electronic monitoring of the brain has
been perfected in research laboratories more secretive

than the military science units that once tested
nuclear isotopes on crippled children.

The generals keep it close to their armored vests, but
the miniature implantable monitor was declassified
long ago. Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque,
New Mexico, for instance, markets a sensor implant
sealed inside a "hermetic biocompatible package" that
runs on a tiny power coil, complete with a
programmable sensor and telemetry circuits. Sandia's
sales literature notes that the implant's design "is
founded on technology originally developed for
weapons."

The Pentagon's electromagnetic arsenal is cloaked by
the "nonlethal defense" program the media has been
busily selling as a "humane" alternative to
conventional death-dealing conventional arms.

From the Pentagon's electromagnetic underworld came
Timothy McVeigh, the "robotic" recruit obsessed with
visions of Waco and Ruby Ridge. If he had indeed been
implanted, McVeigh marched in step with a small army
of glassy-eyed assassins.

Advances in 'overhead' sensors - satellites and UAVs
(Unmanned Aerospace Vehicles) included - will create
opportunities not only to detect targets but to track
them as they move. In (U.S. Air Force Joint Chief of
Staff) General Fogelman's view, "this is
kind of a revolution in warfare,"
- Interview with General Ronald R. Fogelman, Jane's
Defense Weekly, 1995

McVeigh's rage at a target "larger" and "more
ubiquitous" than the military was incited at Calspan,
within a year of his failed Special Forces entrance
examination, several months AFTER leaving the Army.

Calspan and electromagnetic mind control both have
roots at the same Ivy League institution - Cornell
University, Ithaca, New York. Calspan was founded in
1946 as Cornell Aeronautical Laboratory. And Cornell
was also the contract base for the CIA's "Human
Ecology Fund," a fount of financial support for
classified experimentation at the country's leading
universities.

Cornell Aerospace was reorganized in 1972 and renamed
Calspan. Six years later, the firm was acquired by
Arvin Industries.
Recently, Arvin-Calspan merged with Space Industries
International (SII), a commercial space- flight
venture based in Texas.
During the Reagan-Bush era, SII expanded from a staff
of 33 to over 2,700 employees.

Timothy McVeigh was assigned to the conglomerate's
Advanced Technology Center in Buffalo,

[CTRL] It Hurts to Sit on Your Chip


-Caveat Lector-

Quoted from:
  Mind Control  Timothy McVeigh's Rise
   from "Robotic" Soldier to Mad Bomber
 By Alex Constantine

"From the Pentagon's electromagnetic underworld came
Timothy McVeigh, the "robotic" recruit obsessed with
visions of Waco and Ruby Ridge."

"He (McVeigh)  complained that federal agents had
left him with an unexplained scar on his posterior,
implanted him with a microchip. It was painful, he
said, to sit on the chip."

" "He was real different," Todd Regier, a plumber,
told the Boston Globe. "Kind of cold. He was almost
like a robot.""



The popular conception was spun by the press corps
like a clay urn: McVeigh, the volatile minute man, was
so bitter after failing to make the Army's "elite"
Special Forces, so stuffed full of the froth of the
Turner Diaries, that he vented his rage on the
Alfred Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City.

But Captain Terry Guild, McVeigh's' former platoon
leader, told reporters that the failure to become a
Green Beret left the Iraq War veteran "upset. Not
angry. Just very, very disappointed." In the Army, he
demonstrated a willingness to carry out orders,
any orders. He trained on his own time while other
soldiers languished in their bunks or caroused at the
PX. As a civilian,  Timothy McVeigh continued to dwell
on the military. In 1992 he took a job with Burns
International Security Services in
Buffalo and was assigned to the security detail at
Calspan, a Pentagon contractor that conducts
classified research in advanced aerospace rocketry
and electronic warfare. Al Salandra, a spokesman
for Calspan, told reporters that McVeigh was
"a model employee."

"He was real different," Todd Regier, a plumber, told
the Boston Globe. "Kind of cold. He was almost like a
robot."

Within a few months, his manager planned on promoting
McVeigh to the supervisory level. But McVeigh's
bitterness, once directed at the military, "was
becoming directed at a much larger, more ubiquitous
enemy." It was in Buffalo, as a civilian, that
McVeigh's rage peaked. He complained that federal
agents had left him with an unexplained scar on his
posterior, implanted him with a microchip. It was
painful, he said, to sit on the chip.

It's conceivable, given the current state-of-the-art
in classified mind control technology, that McVeigh
had been drawn into an experimental black project.

Jeff Camp, who worked as a guard with McVeigh in
upstate New York after high school, told Newsweek that
the bomber was "a very strange person. It was like he
had two different personalities." The press has
ignored the rise of mind control operations and
technology, but electronic monitoring of the brain has
been perfected in research laboratories more secretive
than the military science units that once tested
nuclear isotopes on crippled children.

The generals keep it close to their armored vests, but
the miniature implantable monitor was declassified
long ago. Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque,
New Mexico, for instance, markets a sensor implant
sealed inside a "hermetic biocompatible package" that
runs on a tiny power coil, complete with a
programmable sensor and telemetry circuits. Sandia's
sales literature notes that the implant's design "is
founded on technology originally developed for
weapons."

The Pentagon's electromagnetic arsenal is cloaked by
the "nonlethal defense" program the media has been
busily selling as a "humane" alternative to
conventional death-dealing conventional arms.

From the Pentagon's electromagnetic underworld came
Timothy McVeigh, the "robotic" recruit obsessed with
visions of Waco and Ruby Ridge. If he had indeed been
implanted, McVeigh marched in step with a small army
of glassy-eyed assassins.

Advances in 'overhead' sensors - satellites and UAVs
(Unmanned Aerospace Vehicles) included - will create
opportunities not only to detect targets but to track
them as they move. In (U.S. Air Force Joint Chief of
Staff) General Fogelman's view, "this is
kind of a revolution in warfare,"
- Interview with General Ronald R. Fogelman, Jane's
Defense Weekly, 1995

McVeigh's rage at a target "larger" and "more
ubiquitous" than the military was incited at Calspan,
within a year of his failed Special Forces entrance
examination, several months AFTER leaving the Army.

Calspan and electromagnetic mind control both have
roots at the same Ivy League institution - Cornell
University, Ithaca, New York. Calspan was founded in
1946 as Cornell Aeronautical Laboratory. And Cornell
was also the contract base for the CIA's "Human
Ecology Fund," a fount of financial support for
classified experimentation at the country's leading
universities.

Cornell Aerospace was reorganized in 1972 and renamed
Calspan. Six years later, the firm was acquired by
Arvin Industries.
Recently, Arvin-Calspan merged with Space Industries
International (SII), a commercial space- flight
venture based in Texas.
During the Reagan-Bush era, SII

Re: [CTRL] The Bible 'not suitable for children'

2001-04-01 Thread Nessie


-Caveat Lector-

And things really get tough when the sex is outside the framework of
church laws. 

Sexual repression is social control. If you can get people to do
something as totally unnatural as not screw, you can get them to do
anything. They have surrendered their persoal autonomy at the very
deepest level.

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Re: [CTRL] Anti-reparations ad sparks censorship debate atcampusesJ2

2001-04-01 Thread Nessie


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The African American community has a long history of sleazy scumbags in
leadership. 

Not unlike the European American community.

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[CTRL] Fwd: Night Lights from the Sun






 The light from solar flare activity was reported near cities including
Palm Springs and Sacramento, Calif.; Flagstaff, Ariz.; and Albuquerque and
Carlsbad, N.M.
 "It totally lit up the sky. We've had dozens and dozens of calls," said
Bill Seigelof radio station KESQ in Palm Desert, 115 miles east of Los
Angeles. ``Some people thought it was UFOs.''
 Just north of Albuquerque, David MacKel was making the rounds at his
security job when he saw the lights. "It was blood red," he reported, "kind
of opaque and you could see the stars through it. It kind of got me freaked
out.''
 Eddy County New Mexico Deputy Danny Gonzales described it as a purple
haze. ``It was very distinct in color,'' he said. ``I have never seen
anything like it.''


Solar Flare Eruptions Likely

By JOSEPH B. VERRENGIA
.c The Associated Press

BOULDER, Colo. (AP) - Intense storms raging on the sun made the night sky
shimmer red and green from Reno, Nev., as far south as Palm Springs, Calif.,
and southern New Mexico, and scientists say the storms could briefly disrupt
telecommunications as they continue through the weekend.

The biggest sunspot cluster seen in at least 10 years has developed on the
upper right quarter of the side of the sun visible from Earth, according to
satellite readings.

Thousands of Nevada residents enjoyed what astronomers called the best
display of the northern lights over the state in at least two decades.

Keith Johnson, associate director of the University of Nevada, Reno's
Fleischmann Planetarium, said he has never seen such a luminous northern
lights display so far south.

As darkness fell Friday night, the skies began to glow red and rays of
light-green-colored light began to appear, he said.

``It was sensational,'' he said. ``You could see some actual color, shape and
structure to the displays. I saw large lumps of light, rays of light and
sheets of light. I even saw some slow motion in them. The colors were obvious
but not very vivid.''

Monty Wolf watched the display from Pyramid Lake, 30 miles northeast of Reno.
He said the sky was glowing so much at midnight that it appeared like
sunrise.

``It was spectacular. The grandeur of it was so impressive,'' he said. ``The
crimson looked nice ... The shafts of light kept forming, and they swirled up
and down and shifted side to side.''

The light from the solar flares also was reported near cities including Palm
Springs and Sacramento, Calif.; Flagstaff, Ariz.; and Albuquerque and
Carlsbad, N.M.

``It has totally lit up the sky. We've had dozens and dozens of calls. People
want to know what it is,'' said Bill Seigel, a producer at radio station KESQ
in Palm Desert, 115 miles east of Los Angeles. ``Some people thought it was
UFOs.''

Just north of Albuquerque, David MacKel was making the rounds at his security
job when he saw the lights. He noted it on his report at 11:23 p.m.

``It was blood red. That's all I can say. It was kind of opaque and you could
see the stars through it,'' MacKel said. He said he had seen the Northern
Lights while in Alaska, but ``the Northern Light move, this was more gaseous.
It kind of got me freaked out.''

Eddy County, N.M., Deputy Danny Gonzales described it as a purple haze. ``It
was very distinct in color,'' he said. ``I have never seen anything like
it.''

Anthony Watts, a meteorologist in Chico, Calif., about 170 miles north of San
Francisco, said the glow from the coronal mass ejection was interesting, but
posed no threat.

``There's no danger, however there is the likelihood that we'll have radio or
television interruptions,'' Watts said.

The sunspot, which is a cooler, darker region on the sun's surface, is caused
by a concentration of temporarily distorted magnetic fields. It spawns
tremendous eruptions, or flares, into the sun's atmosphere, hurling clouds of
electrified gas toward Earth.

The solar activity can produce an aurora in the night sky, typically over
northern latitudes. The colorful, shimmering glow occurs when the energetic
particles strike the Earth's upper atmosphere.

NASA scientists said a powerful flare that erupted Thursday rated a class X,
the most potent category.

The eruptions triggered a powerful, but brief, blackout Friday on some
high-frequency radio channels and low-frequency navigational signals,
scientists said. They forecast at least a 30 percent chance of continuing
disruptions through Sunday.

In addition to radio disruptions, the charged particles can bombard
satellites and orbiting spacecraft and, in rare cases, damage industrial
equipment on the ground, including power generators and pipelines.

On the Net:

Sun-Earth Environment Information: http://www.spaceweather.com

NOAA Space Environment Center: http://www.sec.noaa.gov

Re: [CTRL] Wahdya do?

2001-04-01 Thread Bob Stokes


-Caveat Lector-

In a message dated 4/1/01 6:13:30 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

You didn't really grasp the article did you?  The point is that guns save
more lives, stop more crimes than is reported.

 tell me why people need guns to protect themselves? answer cause there are
 so many fricking guns in the public domain in america, that's why. if there
 wasn't such a threat from firearms then people wouldn't need to defend
 themselves from guns.

Murderers, robbers, rapists and other assorted criminals are going to acquire
guns, if not they will use a knife, baseball bat, lead pipe -- whatever they
can find to use as a weapon.  If I have a gun, then I am at least equally if
not better armed than the criminal.

Criminals in the UK do not use guns?

 i mean.. they won't protect you from the state's
 machinations... only from other little people with guns...

Guns in the hands of citizens is the reason why we are not part of the
British empire.  Should the government here overstep their bounds an armed
citizenry has options that an unarmed citizenry does not have.  If the
citizens of Germany in the thirties did have the right to keep and bear arms
there might not have been a World War 2.

 has america replaced the cold war's arms race with an internal one? might
be
 a good thing for the rest of the world actually. 

The government is not promoting an arms race among citizens.  The government
is promoting disarmament of citizens so only the criminals and government
agencies will be armed -- that is criminal.

Regards,
Bob Stokes

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Re: [CTRL] Creating a market for Star Wars

2001-04-01 Thread Linda Minor

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What's a "looser"?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Saturday, March 31, 2001 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Creating a market for Star Wars

-Caveat Lector-

If all the stolen/illegal/corrupted/bought votes be gathered up ALL
ACROSS
the country, it would be seen that Bush did NOT lose the popular
vote. But the intention is to not let the truth be known so that the
loosers can keep placating their slaves by saying the same lies for
the next 4 years. Well, blab on. No one is listening.

On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:58:26 EST William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
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 Mar. 30, 01:22 EDT
 Creating a market for Star Wars

 Gordon Barthos
 COLUMNIST

 SPACE DREAM: The U.S. has been talking about Star Wars since 1983.
 GEORGE BUSH can't claim a mandate to rock the geopolitical boat,
 much less
 capsize it.
 He barely got elected last fall. He lost the popular vote.
 And after 10 weeks his approval rating is sliding fast.
 Yet Bush has startled friends and foes alike with the sheer
 abrasiveness of
 his attitudes toward Russia, China and North Korea, and his
 indifference to
 world opinion on issues like global warming.
 Last week Bush discovered that the Russians have spies, and gave 50
 of them
 the heave-ho. He's been cool to meeting Vladimir Putin to talk arms
 control.
 His officials call the Russians "a nation of proliferators;" they
 complain
 about Moscow selling Iran weapons; they meet Chechen separatists.
 Eyeing China, they talk about the need to "fight and win a nuclear
 war," with
 Asia as the likeliest battleground. They see China as a
 "competitor," not a
 strategic partner, and lambaste it for selling Iraq technology. They
 talk of
 selling Taiwan powerful anti-missile defences.
 Meanwhile, Bush has undercut South Korea's bid to get North Korea to
 shelve
 its missile program, as it has its nuclear program, in exchange for
 trade and
 aid.
 The Bush White House calls this "clarity, realism, decisiveness."
 Critics
 call it folly.
 As the wreckage piles up, Republican think tanks crank out alarmist
 studies
 to demonstrate that the continental United States is open to attack
 and
 intimidation.
 Has the world suddenly gone on a war footing?
 Hardly.
 But the Cold War era people around Bush  Vice-President Dick Cheney
 and
 Defence Secretary Don Rumsfeld, to name two  are truly ambitious
 patriots.
 They know that the U.S. is undefeatable, and has been for a decade
 or more.
 They dream of making it invulnerable as well. They don't want even
 to be
 threatened by pipsqueak powers.
 They are convinced that Ballistic Missile Defence can deliver that
 invulnerability.
 Ronald Reagan dreamed up Star Wars in 1983 as a hedge against Soviet
 attack.
 When the Soviets went away, Iraq became the new threat. Once Iraq
 was
 humbled, North Korea stood in as the villain.
 There's no prize for spotting a trend here.
 If the Bush administration doesn't play its cards carefully, North
 Korea will
 go cuddly and there won't be a half-credible enemy left to shield
 against.
 Most Americans support the idea of a Fortress North America.
 But as the U.S. economy slows and Bush has to trim his $1.6 trillion
 tax cut
 or slash federal health, education and social services, people may
 think
 twice about sinking $100 billion into a missile shield, absent a
 clear and
 present danger.
 However, if Washington can make a persuasive case that the U.S. is
 surrounded
 by hostile countries, Star Wars would be an easier sell.
 This has implications for Prime Minister Jean Chrtien's government,
 indeed
 for all U.S. allies.
 We've been lobbied by Washington to keep an "open mind" about
 missile
 defence, at least until Bush rolls out his plans later this year.
 Meanwhile, U.S. officials are working overtime to persuade us that
 (1)
 missile defence can work; (2) that its deployment is both necessary
 and
 inevitable; and (3) that allies must sign on, or kiss off defence
 co-operation.
 Flawed though these premises are, the Chrtien government is

 choosing not to
 question them. It should.
 The Bush administration seems bent on creating sufficient friction
 to make
 the world a truly interesting place. Not one in which Canadians can
 feel
 safer.
 That's a stiff price to pay for Republican daydreams.
 Realistically, do the Americans face a potential threat? Yes. A
 small one.
 Though a regime would be crazy to lob a missile their way.
 But working with players like the Russians and Chinese, the U.S.
 could easily
 contain bad actors.
 However Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and friends would have to settle for
 America
 being the unbeatable nation, and not

Re: [CTRL] ALMOST LIKE A ROBOT


-Caveat Lector-

John, I just got three copies of this from you.  I am forwarding
them back to you so that you can see the time and see that you
are sending multiples copies.  I doubt that you are doing this on
purpose, I suspect you have a wrong setting somewhere and I am
just letting you know.

Hang in.  Calvin

John Cone wrote:

 -Caveat Lector-

 Quoted from:
   Mind Control  Timothy McVeigh's Rise
from "Robotic" Soldier to Mad Bomber
  By Alex Constantine

 "He (McVeigh)  complained that federal agents had
 left him with an unexplained scar on his posterior,
 implanted him with a microchip. It was painful, he
 said, to sit on the chip."

 " "He was real different," Todd Regier, a plumber,
 told the Boston Globe. "Kind of cold. He was almost
 like a robot.""
 

 The popular conception was spun by the press corps
 like a clay urn: McVeigh, the volatile minute man, was
 so bitter after failing to make the Army's "elite"
 Special Forces, so stuffed full of the froth of the
 Turner Diaries, that he vented his rage on the
 Alfred Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City.

 But Captain Terry Guild, McVeigh's' former platoon
 leader, told reporters that the failure to become a
 Green Beret left the Iraq War veteran "upset. Not
 angry. Just very, very disappointed." In the Army, he
 demonstrated a willingness to carry out orders,
 any orders. He trained on his own time while other
 soldiers languished in their bunks or caroused at the
 PX. As a civilian,  Timothy McVeigh continued to dwell
 on the military. In 1992 he took a job with Burns
 International Security Services in
 Buffalo and was assigned to the security detail at
 Calspan, a Pentagon contractor that conducts
 classified research in advanced aerospace rocketry
 and electronic warfare. Al Salandra, a spokesman
 for Calspan, told reporters that McVeigh was
 "a model employee."

 "He was real different," Todd Regier, a plumber, told
 the Boston Globe. "Kind of cold. He was almost like a
 robot."

 Within a few months, his manager planned on promoting
 McVeigh to the supervisory level. But McVeigh's
 bitterness, once directed at the military, "was
 becoming directed at a much larger, more ubiquitous
 enemy." It was in Buffalo, as a civilian, that
 McVeigh's rage peaked. He complained that federal
 agents had left him with an unexplained scar on his
 posterior, implanted him with a microchip. It was
 painful, he said, to sit on the chip.

 It's conceivable, given the current state-of-the-art
 in classified mind control technology, that McVeigh
 had been drawn into an experimental black project.

 Jeff Camp, who worked as a guard with McVeigh in
 upstate New York after high school, told Newsweek that
 the bomber was "a very strange person. It was like he
 had two different personalities." The press has
 ignored the rise of mind control operations and
 technology, but electronic monitoring of the brain has
 been perfected in research laboratories more secretive

 than the military science units that once tested
 nuclear isotopes on crippled children.

 The generals keep it close to their armored vests, but
 the miniature implantable monitor was declassified
 long ago. Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque,
 New Mexico, for instance, markets a sensor implant
 sealed inside a "hermetic biocompatible package" that
 runs on a tiny power coil, complete with a
 programmable sensor and telemetry circuits. Sandia's
 sales literature notes that the implant's design "is
 founded on technology originally developed for
 weapons."

 The Pentagon's electromagnetic arsenal is cloaked by
 the "nonlethal defense" program the media has been
 busily selling as a "humane" alternative to
 conventional death-dealing conventional arms.

 From the Pentagon's electromagnetic underworld came
 Timothy McVeigh, the "robotic" recruit obsessed with
 visions of Waco and Ruby Ridge. If he had indeed been
 implanted, McVeigh marched in step with a small army
 of glassy-eyed assassins.

 Advances in 'overhead' sensors - satellites and UAVs
 (Unmanned Aerospace Vehicles) included - will create
 opportunities not only to detect targets but to track
 them as they move. In (U.S. Air Force Joint Chief of
 Staff) General Fogelman's view, "this is
 kind of a revolution in warfare,"
 - Interview with General Ronald R. Fogelman, Jane's
 Defense Weekly, 1995

 McVeigh's rage at a target "larger" and "more
 ubiquitous" than the military was incited at Calspan,
 within a year of his failed Special Forces entrance
 examination, several months AFTER leaving the Army.

 Calspan and electromagnetic mind control both have
 roots at the same Ivy League institution - Cornell
 University, Ithaca, New York. Calspan was founded in
 1946 as Cornell Aeronautical Laboratory. And Cornell
 was also the contract base for the CIA's "Human
 Ecology Fund," a fount of financial support for
 classified experimentation at the country's leading

Re: [CTRL] ALMOST LIKE A ROBOT


-Caveat Lector-

John Cone wrote:

 -Caveat Lector-

 Quoted from:
   Mind Control  Timothy McVeigh's Rise
from "Robotic" Soldier to Mad Bomber
  By Alex Constantine

 "He (McVeigh)  complained that federal agents had
 left him with an unexplained scar on his posterior,
 implanted him with a microchip. It was painful, he
 said, to sit on the chip."

 " "He was real different," Todd Regier, a plumber,
 told the Boston Globe. "Kind of cold. He was almost
 like a robot.""
 

 The popular conception was spun by the press corps
 like a clay urn: McVeigh, the volatile minute man, was
 so bitter after failing to make the Army's "elite"
 Special Forces, so stuffed full of the froth of the
 Turner Diaries, that he vented his rage on the
 Alfred Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City.

 But Captain Terry Guild, McVeigh's' former platoon
 leader, told reporters that the failure to become a
 Green Beret left the Iraq War veteran "upset. Not
 angry. Just very, very disappointed." In the Army, he
 demonstrated a willingness to carry out orders,
 any orders. He trained on his own time while other
 soldiers languished in their bunks or caroused at the
 PX. As a civilian,  Timothy McVeigh continued to dwell
 on the military. In 1992 he took a job with Burns
 International Security Services in
 Buffalo and was assigned to the security detail at
 Calspan, a Pentagon contractor that conducts
 classified research in advanced aerospace rocketry
 and electronic warfare. Al Salandra, a spokesman
 for Calspan, told reporters that McVeigh was
 "a model employee."

 "He was real different," Todd Regier, a plumber, told
 the Boston Globe. "Kind of cold. He was almost like a
 robot."

 Within a few months, his manager planned on promoting
 McVeigh to the supervisory level. But McVeigh's
 bitterness, once directed at the military, "was
 becoming directed at a much larger, more ubiquitous
 enemy." It was in Buffalo, as a civilian, that
 McVeigh's rage peaked. He complained that federal
 agents had left him with an unexplained scar on his
 posterior, implanted him with a microchip. It was
 painful, he said, to sit on the chip.

 It's conceivable, given the current state-of-the-art
 in classified mind control technology, that McVeigh
 had been drawn into an experimental black project.

 Jeff Camp, who worked as a guard with McVeigh in
 upstate New York after high school, told Newsweek that
 the bomber was "a very strange person. It was like he
 had two different personalities." The press has
 ignored the rise of mind control operations and
 technology, but electronic monitoring of the brain has
 been perfected in research laboratories more secretive

 than the military science units that once tested
 nuclear isotopes on crippled children.

 The generals keep it close to their armored vests, but
 the miniature implantable monitor was declassified
 long ago. Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque,
 New Mexico, for instance, markets a sensor implant
 sealed inside a "hermetic biocompatible package" that
 runs on a tiny power coil, complete with a
 programmable sensor and telemetry circuits. Sandia's
 sales literature notes that the implant's design "is
 founded on technology originally developed for
 weapons."

 The Pentagon's electromagnetic arsenal is cloaked by
 the "nonlethal defense" program the media has been
 busily selling as a "humane" alternative to
 conventional death-dealing conventional arms.

 From the Pentagon's electromagnetic underworld came
 Timothy McVeigh, the "robotic" recruit obsessed with
 visions of Waco and Ruby Ridge. If he had indeed been
 implanted, McVeigh marched in step with a small army
 of glassy-eyed assassins.

 Advances in 'overhead' sensors - satellites and UAVs
 (Unmanned Aerospace Vehicles) included - will create
 opportunities not only to detect targets but to track
 them as they move. In (U.S. Air Force Joint Chief of
 Staff) General Fogelman's view, "this is
 kind of a revolution in warfare,"
 - Interview with General Ronald R. Fogelman, Jane's
 Defense Weekly, 1995

 McVeigh's rage at a target "larger" and "more
 ubiquitous" than the military was incited at Calspan,
 within a year of his failed Special Forces entrance
 examination, several months AFTER leaving the Army.

 Calspan and electromagnetic mind control both have
 roots at the same Ivy League institution - Cornell
 University, Ithaca, New York. Calspan was founded in
 1946 as Cornell Aeronautical Laboratory. And Cornell
 was also the contract base for the CIA's "Human
 Ecology Fund," a fount of financial support for
 classified experimentation at the country's leading
 universities.

 Cornell Aerospace was reorganized in 1972 and renamed
 Calspan. Six years later, the firm was acquired by
 Arvin Industries.
 Recently, Arvin-Calspan merged with Space Industries
 International (SII), a commercial space- flight
 venture based in Texas.
 During the Reagan-Bush era, SII

Re: [CTRL] ALMOST LIKE A ROBOT


-Caveat Lector-

John Cone wrote:

 -Caveat Lector-

 Quoted from:
   Mind Control  Timothy McVeigh's Rise
from "Robotic" Soldier to Mad Bomber
  By Alex Constantine

 "He (McVeigh)  complained that federal agents had
 left him with an unexplained scar on his posterior,
 implanted him with a microchip. It was painful, he
 said, to sit on the chip."

 " "He was real different," Todd Regier, a plumber,
 told the Boston Globe. "Kind of cold. He was almost
 like a robot.""
 

 The popular conception was spun by the press corps
 like a clay urn: McVeigh, the volatile minute man, was
 so bitter after failing to make the Army's "elite"
 Special Forces, so stuffed full of the froth of the
 Turner Diaries, that he vented his rage on the
 Alfred Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City.

 But Captain Terry Guild, McVeigh's' former platoon
 leader, told reporters that the failure to become a
 Green Beret left the Iraq War veteran "upset. Not
 angry. Just very, very disappointed." In the Army, he
 demonstrated a willingness to carry out orders,
 any orders. He trained on his own time while other
 soldiers languished in their bunks or caroused at the
 PX. As a civilian,  Timothy McVeigh continued to dwell
 on the military. In 1992 he took a job with Burns
 International Security Services in
 Buffalo and was assigned to the security detail at
 Calspan, a Pentagon contractor that conducts
 classified research in advanced aerospace rocketry
 and electronic warfare. Al Salandra, a spokesman
 for Calspan, told reporters that McVeigh was
 "a model employee."

 "He was real different," Todd Regier, a plumber, told
 the Boston Globe. "Kind of cold. He was almost like a
 robot."

 Within a few months, his manager planned on promoting
 McVeigh to the supervisory level. But McVeigh's
 bitterness, once directed at the military, "was
 becoming directed at a much larger, more ubiquitous
 enemy." It was in Buffalo, as a civilian, that
 McVeigh's rage peaked. He complained that federal
 agents had left him with an unexplained scar on his
 posterior, implanted him with a microchip. It was
 painful, he said, to sit on the chip.

 It's conceivable, given the current state-of-the-art
 in classified mind control technology, that McVeigh
 had been drawn into an experimental black project.

 Jeff Camp, who worked as a guard with McVeigh in
 upstate New York after high school, told Newsweek that
 the bomber was "a very strange person. It was like he
 had two different personalities." The press has
 ignored the rise of mind control operations and
 technology, but electronic monitoring of the brain has
 been perfected in research laboratories more secretive

 than the military science units that once tested
 nuclear isotopes on crippled children.

 The generals keep it close to their armored vests, but
 the miniature implantable monitor was declassified
 long ago. Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque,
 New Mexico, for instance, markets a sensor implant
 sealed inside a "hermetic biocompatible package" that
 runs on a tiny power coil, complete with a
 programmable sensor and telemetry circuits. Sandia's
 sales literature notes that the implant's design "is
 founded on technology originally developed for
 weapons."

 The Pentagon's electromagnetic arsenal is cloaked by
 the "nonlethal defense" program the media has been
 busily selling as a "humane" alternative to
 conventional death-dealing conventional arms.

 From the Pentagon's electromagnetic underworld came
 Timothy McVeigh, the "robotic" recruit obsessed with
 visions of Waco and Ruby Ridge. If he had indeed been
 implanted, McVeigh marched in step with a small army
 of glassy-eyed assassins.

 Advances in 'overhead' sensors - satellites and UAVs
 (Unmanned Aerospace Vehicles) included - will create
 opportunities not only to detect targets but to track
 them as they move. In (U.S. Air Force Joint Chief of
 Staff) General Fogelman's view, "this is
 kind of a revolution in warfare,"
 - Interview with General Ronald R. Fogelman, Jane's
 Defense Weekly, 1995

 McVeigh's rage at a target "larger" and "more
 ubiquitous" than the military was incited at Calspan,
 within a year of his failed Special Forces entrance
 examination, several months AFTER leaving the Army.

 Calspan and electromagnetic mind control both have
 roots at the same Ivy League institution - Cornell
 University, Ithaca, New York. Calspan was founded in
 1946 as Cornell Aeronautical Laboratory. And Cornell
 was also the contract base for the CIA's "Human
 Ecology Fund," a fount of financial support for
 classified experimentation at the country's leading
 universities.

 Cornell Aerospace was reorganized in 1972 and renamed
 Calspan. Six years later, the firm was acquired by
 Arvin Industries.
 Recently, Arvin-Calspan merged with Space Industries
 International (SII), a commercial space- flight
 venture based in Texas.
 During the Reagan-Bush era, SII

Re: [CTRL] It Hurts to Sit on Your Chip


-Caveat Lector-

Correction, I got FOUR copies of the same thing from you.

Cheers.  CB

John Cone wrote:

 -Caveat Lector-

 Quoted from:
   Mind Control  Timothy McVeigh's Rise
from "Robotic" Soldier to Mad Bomber
  By Alex Constantine

 "From the Pentagon's electromagnetic underworld came
 Timothy McVeigh, the "robotic" recruit obsessed with
 visions of Waco and Ruby Ridge."

 "He (McVeigh)  complained that federal agents had
 left him with an unexplained scar on his posterior,
 implanted him with a microchip. It was painful, he
 said, to sit on the chip."

 " "He was real different," Todd Regier, a plumber,
 told the Boston Globe. "Kind of cold. He was almost
 like a robot.""
 

 The popular conception was spun by the press corps
 like a clay urn: McVeigh, the volatile minute man, was
 so bitter after failing to make the Army's "elite"
 Special Forces, so stuffed full of the froth of the
 Turner Diaries, that he vented his rage on the
 Alfred Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City.

 But Captain Terry Guild, McVeigh's' former platoon
 leader, told reporters that the failure to become a
 Green Beret left the Iraq War veteran "upset. Not
 angry. Just very, very disappointed." In the Army, he
 demonstrated a willingness to carry out orders,
 any orders. He trained on his own time while other
 soldiers languished in their bunks or caroused at the
 PX. As a civilian,  Timothy McVeigh continued to dwell
 on the military. In 1992 he took a job with Burns
 International Security Services in
 Buffalo and was assigned to the security detail at
 Calspan, a Pentagon contractor that conducts
 classified research in advanced aerospace rocketry
 and electronic warfare. Al Salandra, a spokesman
 for Calspan, told reporters that McVeigh was
 "a model employee."

 "He was real different," Todd Regier, a plumber, told
 the Boston Globe. "Kind of cold. He was almost like a
 robot."

 Within a few months, his manager planned on promoting
 McVeigh to the supervisory level. But McVeigh's
 bitterness, once directed at the military, "was
 becoming directed at a much larger, more ubiquitous
 enemy." It was in Buffalo, as a civilian, that
 McVeigh's rage peaked. He complained that federal
 agents had left him with an unexplained scar on his
 posterior, implanted him with a microchip. It was
 painful, he said, to sit on the chip.

 It's conceivable, given the current state-of-the-art
 in classified mind control technology, that McVeigh
 had been drawn into an experimental black project.

 Jeff Camp, who worked as a guard with McVeigh in
 upstate New York after high school, told Newsweek that
 the bomber was "a very strange person. It was like he
 had two different personalities." The press has
 ignored the rise of mind control operations and
 technology, but electronic monitoring of the brain has
 been perfected in research laboratories more secretive
 than the military science units that once tested
 nuclear isotopes on crippled children.

 The generals keep it close to their armored vests, but
 the miniature implantable monitor was declassified
 long ago. Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque,
 New Mexico, for instance, markets a sensor implant
 sealed inside a "hermetic biocompatible package" that
 runs on a tiny power coil, complete with a
 programmable sensor and telemetry circuits. Sandia's
 sales literature notes that the implant's design "is
 founded on technology originally developed for
 weapons."

 The Pentagon's electromagnetic arsenal is cloaked by
 the "nonlethal defense" program the media has been
 busily selling as a "humane" alternative to
 conventional death-dealing conventional arms.

 From the Pentagon's electromagnetic underworld came
 Timothy McVeigh, the "robotic" recruit obsessed with
 visions of Waco and Ruby Ridge. If he had indeed been
 implanted, McVeigh marched in step with a small army
 of glassy-eyed assassins.

 Advances in 'overhead' sensors - satellites and UAVs
 (Unmanned Aerospace Vehicles) included - will create
 opportunities not only to detect targets but to track
 them as they move. In (U.S. Air Force Joint Chief of
 Staff) General Fogelman's view, "this is
 kind of a revolution in warfare,"
 - Interview with General Ronald R. Fogelman, Jane's
 Defense Weekly, 1995

 McVeigh's rage at a target "larger" and "more
 ubiquitous" than the military was incited at Calspan,
 within a year of his failed Special Forces entrance
 examination, several months AFTER leaving the Army.

 Calspan and electromagnetic mind control both have
 roots at the same Ivy League institution - Cornell
 University, Ithaca, New York. Calspan was founded in
 1946 as Cornell Aeronautical Laboratory. And Cornell
 was also the contract base for the CIA's "Human
 Ecology Fund," a fount of financial support for
 classified experimentation at the country's leading
 universities.

 Cornell Aerospace was reorganized in 1972 and renamed
 Calspan. Six years

Re: [CTRL] Black reparations: David Horowitz is incorrect. Reply. j2

2001-04-01 Thread Linda Minor


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That's what they told us in the 60s and 70s when we said the Vietnam War was
set up for someone to make money off it.  Remember:

America, love it or leave it.

I love the irony in your message to descendants of black slaves who were
brought to this country involuntarily on the ships of profiteers, many of
whom also made fortunes in pushing opium.  You don't like this country and
what was done to your forebears?  You're now free to find your way back to
where you came from.

Linda

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Saturday, March 31, 2001 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Black reparations: David Horowitz is incorrect. Reply.
j2


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The person who came up with this idiotic reparations idea needs more than
reparations-he/she needs more brain cells besides the one he/she
has!!!

Stupid!!  If someone does not like it here in America they are
free
to go to some other, 'better' place, if they can find it.

---

On Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:22:25 -0500 "Nurev Ind." [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
 -Caveat Lector-

 www.frontpagemag.com

 Debt Wrong

 David Horowitz is incorrect. It's time for the
 United States to pay up for slavery.
 by Earl Ofari Hutchinson
 Salon.com |June 5, 2000
 URL: http://www.frontpagemag.com/dh/hutchinson06-05-00p.htm



 FORMER ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER David Ben-Gurion gave
 the best answer to David
 Horowitz's straw man question,
 "Does Oprah need reparations?"

 In 1952 Germany agreed to pay
 reparations to Israel. Ben-Gurion called it
 "collective reparation" not just for the Holocaust
 survivors but for "a people that have been persecuted,
 oppressed and plundered for hundreds of
 years." He understood that collective suffering and
 victimization demanded collective restitution. A
 half century later the Israeli government still receives
 billions in payments from Germany, even
 though most Israelis weren't even born during the
 Holocaust and many of them are prosperous
 and successful professionals and businesspeople.

 The rest of Horowitz's long-winded diatribe against
 reparations is a mix of misstatements of fact,
 distortions and jumbled logic. But when you strip it
 all away there are four reasons, not 10, why
 Horowitz does not believe African-Americans should
 receive reparations for America's history of
 slavery.

 Argument No. 1 -- A handful of Southern planters, not the
 U.S. government, business or whites in
 general were responsible for and profited from slavery.

 The U.S. government encoded slavery in the Constitution,
 and protected and nourished it for a
 century. Traders, insurance companies, bankers, shippers
 and landowners made billions off of it.
 Those ill-gotten profits fueled America's industrial might.
 Meanwhile, white labor groups benefited
 for decades after slavery insured that blacks were
 excluded from unions and the trades and
 confined to the dirtiest, poorest-paying jobs.

 While many whites and non-white immigrants did come
 to America after the Civil War, they were
 not subjected to decades of relentless racial terror
 and legal segregation as were blacks. This gave
 them the political and economic breathing space needed
 to open businesses, gain access to public
 and private education, enter the professions, and the
 freedom to buy and rent in neighborhoods of
 their choice. They had another advantage. Through the
 decades of slavery and Jim Crow
 segregation, African-Americans were transformed into
 the poster group for racial dysfunctionality
 that Horowitz giddily reminds the world of. The image
 of blacks as lazy, crime and violence
 prone, irresponsible and sexual predators has stoked
 white fears and hostility and served as the
 standard rationale for lynchings, racial assaults, hate
 crimes and police violence.

 Argument No. 2 -- Slavery is long past, blacks are
 living better than ever, and besides, they have
 already gotten their payback with welfare, social and
 education programs, civil rights legislation
 and affirmative action programs.

 Really? So why did a recent poll by the National
 Conference for Community and Justice, a
 Washington, D.C., public policy group, find that
 blacks are still overwhelmingly the victims of
 racial discrimination? Even this is too charitable.
 It's not, as Horowitz implied, some deep-seated
 victim neurosis that blacks suffer from. They are
 victims of the hideous legacy of slavery.

 The result: Blacks make up more than half of the 2
 million prisoners in American prisons. They
 receive stiffer sentences than whites for possession
 of drugs and petty crimes. They have the
 highest rates of poverty, infant mortality and HIV/AIDS
 affliction and are more often victims of
 violence than any other ethnic group in the country.

 They are more likely to live in segregated neighborhoods,
 be refused business loans and attend
 decrepit, failed public schools, than

[CTRL] The TETRA System And The Zombification Of Britain's Police

2001-04-01 Thread Linda Minor


-Caveat Lector-

http://www.rense.com/general9/xombie.htm

The TETRA System 
The Zombification Of Britain's Police
From Ivan Fraser
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
3-28-1

Dear Jeff

Tim Rifat has asked me to forward this information to you. Transcript from
CH4 News, Feb 5th, 2001, interview of Tim Rifat:

Begin quote:

The new Home Office microwave system called TETRA is to be the mainstay of
British police force communications and will be placed in every major
population centre. The British Government is spending 2 1/2 billion pounds
on a 400 MHz pulse modulated microwave transmitter network which broadcasts
17.6 Hz into the brains of all Britain's police and anyone living near the
planned 30,000 transmitters.

The first place these transmitters will be deployed is Glastonbury. the
effects of these transmitters, which entirely duplicate CIA research in
optimal mind-control technology, are

1. Destruction of short and long-term memory by disrupting calcium reflux
from synapses, due to the effect of the 17.6 Hz ELF.

2. Disruption of synaptic neural networks, leading to behavioural and
character changes.

3. manic behaviour, followed by nervous exhaustion after use, or exposure.

4. Disruption of higher brain function, leading to the so called
'zombification'.

5. Enhanced suggestibility.

6. The development of pre-cancerous cells, which can lead to long-term
tumour growth.

7. Effects on the Limbic System, leading to emotional and behavioural
modification.

8. ELF frequency in the TETRA system strongly affects calcium ions, causing
them to efflux out of brain cells due to psychotron resonance.

Since these ions are the chief factor in long and short term potentiation of
synapses, the braincell junctions, and are crucial to memory and cognition,
use of the TETRA system on such a scale could cause irreversible brain
damage by disturbing not only calcium ions but sodium and potassium ions,
all vital to nerve and brain function.

The TETRA system will also flood the New York and London Underground, so
commuters will regularly be exposed to behavioural modification during Rush
Hour.

End quote


A protest movement is currently being established by Glastonbury residents.

To contact Tim Rifat or the Glastonbury protest organiser, please reply to
Ivan Fraser at this email address and your response will be forwarded.

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[CTRL] In Place of Nations


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Do you think people will eventually see the connection of the Big Pharma to
the "war on 'some' drugs"?
Sandee
===
"The Nation, April 9, 2001  page 11


In Place of Nations


by John Le Carre


Times have changed since the cold war, but not half as much as we might
like to think.  The cold war provided the perfect excuse for Western
governments to plunder and exploit the Third World in the name of freedom;
to rig its elections, bribe its politicians, appoint its tyrants, and, by
every sophisticated means of persuasion and influence, stunt the emergence
of young democracies in the name of democracy.

And while they did this - whether in Southeast Asia, Central and South
America, or Africa - a ludicrous notion took root that we are saddled with
to this day.  It is a notion beloved by conservatives, and, in my country,
New Labour alike.  It makes siamese twins of Tony Blair, Margaret Thatcher,
Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush.  It holds to its bosom the
conviction that, whatever vast commercial corporations do in the short term,
they are ultimately motivated by ethical concerns, and their influence upon
the world is therefore beneficial.  And anyone who thinks otherwise is a
neo-Communist heretic.

In the name of this theory, we look on apparently helpless while
rainforests are wrecked to the tune of millions of square miles every year,
native agricultural communities are systematically deprived of their
livelihoods, uprooted and made homeless, protesters are hanged and shot, the
loveliest corners of the world are invaded and desecrated, and tropical
paradises are turned into rotting wastelands with sprawling, disease-ridden
megacities at their center.

And of all these crimes of unbridled capitalism, it seemed to me, as I
began to cast around for a story to illustrate this argument in my most
recent novel, that the pharmaceutical industry offered me the most eloquent
example.

I might have gone for the scandal of spiked tobacco, designed by Western
manufacturers to cause addiction and incidentally cancer in Third World
communities already plagued with AIDS, tuberculosis, malaria, and poverty on
a scale few of us can imagine.

I might have gone for the oil companies, and impunity with which Shell,
for instance, triggered a vast human disaster in Nigeria, displacing tribes,
polluting their land and causing an uprising that led to kangaroo courts and
the shameful torture and execution of very brave men by a wicked and corrupt
totalitarian regime.

But the multinational pharmaceutical world, once I entered it, got me by
the throat and wouldn't let go.  Big Pharma, as it is known, offered
everything; the hopes and dreams we have of it, its vast, partly realized
potential for good; and its pitch-dark underside, sustained by huge wealth,
pathological secrecy, corruption and greed.

I learned, for instance, of how Big Pharma in the United States had
persuaded the State Department to threaten poor countries' governments with
trade sanctions in order to prevent them from making their own cheap forms
of the patented lifesaving drugs that could ease the agony of the 35 million
men, women, and children in the Third World who are HIV-positive, 80% of
them in sub-saharan Africa.  In pharma jargon, these patent-free drugs are
called generic.  Big Pharma likes to trash them, insisting they are unsafe
and carelessly administered.  Practice shows that they are neither.  They
simply save the same lives that Big Pharma could save, but at a fraction of
the cost.

Big Pharma did not invent these lifesaving drugs that they have patented
and arbitrarily overpriced, incidentally.  Anti-retrovirals were for the
most part discovered by publicly funded US research projects into other
diseases, and only later entrusted to pharmaceutical companies for marketing
and exploitation.  Once the pharmas had the patent, they charged whatever
they thought an AIDS-desperate Western market could stand: $12,000 to
$15,000 a year for compounds that cost a few hundred to run up.  Thus a
price tag was attached, and the Western world, by and large, fell for it.
Nobody said it was a massive confidence trick.  Nobody remarked that, while
Africa has 80 percent of the world's AIDS patients, it comprises 1 percent
of Big Pharma's market.

Do I hear you offering the drug companies' time-worn excuse that they
need to make huge profits in one drug in order to finance the research and
development of others?  Then kindly tell me, please, how come they spend
twice as much on marketing as they do on research and development?

I was also told about the dumping of inappropriate or out-of-date
medicines by means of "charitable donations" in order to get rid of
unsaleable stock, avoid destruction costs and earn a tax break.  And about
the deliberate widening of a drug's specifications in order to broaden its
sales base in the Third World.  Thus, for

[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] AMERICA'S PREMIER JUDAS GOAT LEADER ORGINAZATION






Is the JOHN BIRCH SOCIETY an insidious
intelligence front?

I am not the only one to think this.  Here is
something written by a group of past JBS officers
spilling their guts about the JBS council members
who are on speaking terms with Rockefellers,
Harrimans, Warburgs and those who were past
governors of the FEDERAL RESERVE.

Is anyone else smelling a rat?

The world is far more duplicitous than you
imagine.  Here is how it got that way.  At the
turn of the century John D. Rockefeller controlled
90% of the known oil reserves in the world until
H. L. Hunt gained control of 40,000 acres of the
richest oil fields in America.  This discovery of
West Texas crude drove the price of Rockefeller's
oil down by 80%.  The Rockefellers struck a secret
deal with Hunt to control oil production and
stabilize oil prices back where they were.  In
1963 the Rockefellers and H.L. Hunt combined to
assassinate President Kennedy who was planning to
end the Oil Depletion Allowance that was 29 % of
bottom line oil profits.

H.L. Hunt funded a wide spectrum of phony
conservative organizations that used conservative
language to accomplish the goals of the
Rockefellers.  These phony groups that were
projected by Rockefeller and Bush controlled TV
preempted Barry Goldwater's conservative
movement.  Rush Limbaugh pushing George Bush is an
excellent example of this.  Goldwater called Bush
and Rockefeller EASTERN LIBERAL ESTABLISHMENT.
This lie has been repeated so many times people
who call themselves conservative think Limbaugh is
conservative.

If you were as powerful as the Rockefeller and
Bush families would you not want to control the
opposition to what you were doing?
I am sure that if you read these documents
carefully you will never give money to this
insidious intelligence front.  It would be far
better if you just flushed that money down the
toilet.

After you do this you can then put that money
behind the nuclear campaign.  It is a great irony
that those who blew up the Murrah Building benefit
by your suspending the nuclear campaign.  They are
playing you like a Stradivarius.

I know the wealthiest neighborhood in Phoenix
where Robert Welsh lived next to Dan Quayle's
parents who were the Regional Coordinators of the
JOHN BURCH SOCIETY.  Quayle as you remember was
one of the top intelligence officers concerned
with the Iran/contra scandal.  It takes
generations of trust in the intelligence community
to work up to that level.  All this is a secret in
the JOHN BIRCH literature.

It is also not know that William Rehnquist, the
CHIEF JUSTICE OF THE SUPREME COURT whose vote
installed George Bush Jr. in the WHITE HOUSE and
Robert Welsh, the founder of the JOHN BIRCH
SOCIETY and H.L. Hunt and Claire Booth Luce and
the founder of LIBERTY LOBBY used to appear
together in Phoenix on panels in the late 1950s.
Renhquist was the first to call of the impeachment
of Errol Warren, a top JBS project.

When Leon Trotsky left for Russia in 1917 John D.
Rockefeller personally handed him a purse with
$10,000.  These same wealthiest men in the world
financed the Bolshevik Revolution and ran the USSR
as their private fiefdom.  You see the wealthiest
men in the world and the communists both were for
central banks.  Controlling both the communists
and the anti communists conferred absolute power.

Anyone who reads this well will see the relevancy
to the CIA-DRUGS discussion.

Brian Downing Quig


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The John
Birch Society




With the
onset of the McCarthy era 50 years ago, any perceived threat to U.S. sovereignty
from the British Round Table and its American branch shifted to an obsession
with the Soviet Union. Roy Cohn, who was legal counsel to Sen. Joseph McCarthy
during the anti-Communist Senate investigations of the 1950s, would later
become a member of the John Birch Society and a principle figure in the
JBS intelligence gathering operation, the Western Goals Foundation. Out
of the latter emerged the core group which, in 1981, formed the present
Council for National Policy -- a consortium of high level political, corporate
and evangelical leaders which is the primary coordinating body and funding
conduit for Christian Right projects.
Sara Diamond's
book, Roads to Dominion: Right-Wing Movements and Political Power
in the United States, notes:"Before and after
the formation of the John Birch Society, corporations played a major role
in rallying the public

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Tell Your Local Media Critic!

A Narco News Media Alert

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New Mexico Governor Gary Johnson, newly emboldened in his critique of
US drug policy with the support of neighboring Governor Patricio Martinez in
Chihuahua, Mexico, took to the airwaves this week and deflated Mike Barnicle
on his own program

Border Governor Agreement on Drug Legalization Hits National TV

Johnson Deflates Blowhard Mike Barnicle in MSNBC Debate

- Barnicle Hides Behind his 7 Kids to Oppose Drug Policy Reform

- Gov. Gary Johnson: ``You're burying your head in the sand if you don't
know that statistically four out of your seven kids are gonna do illegal
drugs.''

- Barnicle: ``No! No! None of my kids are gonna do illegal drugs!''

- Johnson: ``And really, Mike, aren't you most afraid of them doing illegal
drugs because of the prohibition against drugs and it will go on their
record and they might end up in prison and all of that?''

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http://www.sfnewmexican.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=1599446BRD=2144PAG=461dept_id=367954rfi=6

Governor keeps up drug-reform crusade

By STEVE TERRELL/The New Mexican March 29, 2001

Despite the fact that the state Legislature didn't pass most of Gov. Gary
Johnson's drug-law reform package, Johnson on Wednesday continued his fight
for liberalizing drug laws.

The governor's office announced that Johnson had filed a ``friend of the
court'' brief in the United States vs. Oakland Cannabis Buyer's Cooperative
case before the U.S. Supreme Court, arguing for the legal use of marijuana
to treat certain medical conditions.

Johnson also appeared Wednesday on yet another national television show to
talk about drug laws. This time he was questioned by TV interviewer Mike
Barnicle on the MSNBC cable network in a spirited segment in which both the
governor and Barnicle raised their voices.

Barnicle told viewers that he was leery about liberalizing drug laws because
he has seven kids. Replied Johnson, ``You're burying your head in the sand
if you don't know that statistically four out of your seven kids are gonna
do illegal drugs.''

Barnicle loudly denied that. ``No! No! None of my kids are gonna do illegal
drugs!''

Then Johnson asked, ``And really, Mike, aren't you most afraid of them doing
illegal drugs because of the prohibition against drugs and it will go on
their record and they might end up in prison and all of that?''

Barnicle said that wasn't true.

At one point during the interview, Johnson put his thumb to his nose with
his fingers splayed to demonstrate the attitude of many young people toward
drug laws in general.

After the interview, in which the governor participated by remote from the
state Capitol, Johnson told local reporters, ``He really is sticking his
head in the sand if he doesn't think most his kids will try drugs.''

In the brief filed with the Supreme Court - which heard arguments Wednesday
in the medical-marijuana case - Johnson argued that marijuana is a states'
rights issue.

Friend-of-the-court briefs are filed by persons not directly involved in a
case, but who are interested in its outcome. The Oakland Cannabis Buyer's
Cooperative was sued by the U.S. Department of Justice to try to stop the
cooperative from distributing medical marijuana.

Part of the legislative package the Johnson introduced in the recently
completed session of the state Legislature called for establishing a program
in the state Health Department to allow patients to use marijuana when
recommended by their doctor.

During hearings on the bills, some legislators pointed to the court appeal
and said they were reluctant to pass a medical-marijuana bill in New Mexico
before the high court renders a decision in the case.

Each house of the Legislature passed its own medical-marijuana bill.
However, neither bill was passed by both houses and, therefore, died.

Johnson told reporters that he was excited that Patricio Martínez, governor
of the Mexican state of Chihuahua, in a recent newspaper interview came out
in favor of legalizing marijuana.

In the interview, published in the Mexican newspaper El Universal, Martínez
mentioned Johnson as an example of an American voice saying that the
so-called War on Drugs has been lost.

Johnson said he spoke with Martínez just days before the Mexican governor
was shot in the neck in December.

Their conversation came about a week after Mexican President Vicente Fox
said he favored liberalizing drug laws.

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[CTRL] WP: China Jets Intercept U.S. Navy Plane

2001-04-01 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER


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m

China Jets Intercept U.S. Navy Plane

By Martin Fackler
Associated Press Writer
Sunday, April 1, 2001; 12:10 p.m. EDT

BEIJING  A U.S. Navy surveillance plane collided with a Chinese
fighter jet that intercepted it over the South China Sea on
Sunday and made an emergency landing in China, a U.S. military
spokesman said.

The 24 American crew members were not injured, said Col. John
Bratton, a spokesman for the U.S. Pacific Command in Hawaii. The
Chinese government said the fighter crashed and its pilot was
missing.

The EP-3 was on a routine surveillance flight in international
airspace when two Chinese fighters intercepted it, Bratton said.
The EP-3 is an unarmed four-engine propeller plane equipped to
listen in on radio signals and monitor radar sites.

The collision appeared to be an accident and the Chinese did not
force the plane down, Bratton said.

"The planes actually bumped into each other," said another
Pacific Command spokesman, Lt. Col. Dewey Ford.

The incident comes at a touchy time in the United States'
relations with China. The Bush administration has taken a more
wary attitude toward Beijing, and China's recent detention of two
scholars with links to the United States has further raised
distrust.

A Chinese academic said encounters with Chinese fighters are
frequent as U.S. planes fly along China's coast eavesdropping on
military communications.

"It's very regular for the American Navy to have their planes
intruding into Chinese airspace," said Yan Xuetong, an expert in
international studies at Tsinghua University in Beijing. "The
Chinese then send up fighters and chase them out."

The U.S. military would not say how close Sunday's flight came to
Chinese airspace.

The Chinese Foreign Ministry said the collision occurred at 9:07
a.m. some 62 miles southeast of Hainan, a large island off the
southern Chinese coast.

Two Chinese fighters were sent up to track the plane as it
approached Chinese airspace, said the ministry statement.

"The U.S. plane abruptly diverted toward the Chinese planes, and
its head and left wing collided with one of the Chinese planes,
causing the Chinese plane to crash," the statement said.

It said rescuers were searching for the missing Chinese pilot.

The EP-3 landed at a military airfield at Lingshui, a town on the
southern end of Hainan, the statement said.

Hainan is a large island on China's south coast that is covered
with military bases because of its proximity to Vietnam and the
Spratly Islands, claimed by China and five other countries.

Bratton did not know the status of the crew, but he said the
Chinese appeared responsive to U.S. requests that they be well
treated and returned. They were believed to still be in Hainan.

"We see no problems with retrieving the crew," Bratton said.

The U.S. Embassy in Beijing "communicated our concern about the
incident" to the Chinese government, Bratton said. U.S.
authorities in Washington contacted the Chinese Embassy there as
well.

In a statement, the Pacific Command said it asked China "expedite
any necessary repairs to the aircraft, and facilitate the
immediate return of the aircraft and crew."

The U.S. plane had taken off from Kadena Air Base in Okinawa,
Japan, the U.S. military said.


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[CTRL] ABC: Midair Collision-- U.S., China Point Fingers Over Accident

2001-04-01 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER


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"...One Pentagon source called the EP-3 plane 'highly classified,
the most sensitive aircraft in the U.S. inventory.'..."


http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world/DailyNews/navychinacollision010401.html

Midair Collision

U.S., China Point Fingers Over Accident



April 1  Chinese fighter jets have forced down a U.S. Navy
surveillance plane with 24 crew members after a collision over
the South China Sea.



The United States claims the Navy plane was on a routine
surveillance mission in international airspace when it was
intercepted by two Chinese fighter jets, bumped by one of them,
and forced to land in southern China. After initial speculation
that the mid-air bump was intentional, U.S. officials now say
they believe the collision was an accident. The EP-3, a
four-engine propeller plane, was badly damaged, thus forcing it
to issue a mayday call and land at a military airport in Lingshui
on Hainan Island, located in south China, officials said.


China: America's Fault

However, Chinese television quotes Chinese officials as saying
the American four-engine propeller plane was in Chinese airspace,
and the accident is America's fault.

According to the reports, a Chinese jet was conducting normal
flight operations south of Hainan Island in the South China Sea
when the American plane suddenly appeared. They say the American
plane hit the Chinese plane, which then crashed into the ocean.
Searchers continue to look for the Chinese plane's pilot, the
reports say.

American military officials had earlier said they did not believe
the Chinese plane crashed after the collision, which occurred
about 9:15 a.m. local time today, or 8:15 p.m. ET Saturday.

Chinese authorities said they have the American plane's 24 crew
members in their custody, and that they are reserving the right
to demand compensation later.

American officials have said the Americans appear uninjured, and
the Chinese appear to be responsive to requests to treat the
flyers well. White House Spokesman Ari Fleischer said he expects
the Chinese to return them promptly.

"That is our expectation," he said. "That is the standard
practice. We would expect them to follow it."

EP-3: A Highly Classified Plane

Pentagon officials have expressed concern about the situation,
especially since the EP-3 plane utilizes technology that is
considered more advanced than what the Chinese military uses,
possibly posing a security risk.

"We expect that their government will respect the integrity of
the aircraft and well-being and safety of the crew in accordance
with international practices, and that they'll expedite any
necessary repairs to the aircraft and that they'll facilitate the
immediate return of the aircraft and crew," said a Navy
spokesman, Lt. Col. Dewey Ford, at Ft. Smith in Hawaii.

One Pentagon source called the EP-3 plane "highly classified, the
most sensitive aircraft in the U.S. inventory."

The U.S. Embassy in Beijing "communicated our concern about the
incident" to the Chinese government, said Col. John Bratton, a
spokesman for the U.S. Pacific Command in Hawaii. U.S.
authorities in Washington contacted the Chinese Embassy there as
well.

ABCNEWS' Barbara Starr in Washington and Chito Romana in Beijing
contributed to this report.

Bad Time for U.S., China Friction


April 1  David Lampton, director of China studies at Johns
Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies in Washington,
said this weekend's Chinese-American plane collision probably
couldn't have come at a worse time. "There's a context that's not
very propitious," he said. "That is, China has detained some
American or American-connected academics. And that's caused
friction in the relationship. In addition, the United States is
in the midst of trying to decide what weapons to sell to Taiwan.
And that decision should be made in the next month."


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[CTRL] Auschwitz survivors sue Allies

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AUSCHWITZ SURVIVORS TO SUE ALLIES

Ananova
18:58 Sunday 1 April 2001
http://www.lineone.net/newswire/cgi-bin/newswire.cgi/new_wire/pa_world/story/2001/4/c--2001-4-1-1n15.html

Survivors of Auschwitz are suing the Allies for failing to prevent
the slaughter at the Nazi death camp.

They say Britain and the US knew what was going on there in the
spring of 1943 but didn't agree to act until August that year.

They believe more than 400,000 Jews could have been saved in that
time, so they are claiming billions of pounds in compensation.

The Auschwitz Committee has launched a case at the US District Court
in Washington, where the hearing stands more chance of success.

Florida lawyers behind a similar action against IBM are also involved
in the case, according to the Sunday Express.

They claim the computer company supplied technology to the Nazis
which made the final solution possible.

Kurt Goldstein, vice-president of the survivors' committee, said:
"For decades we have been dealing with the Germans who were guilty,
now it is the turn of the Allies to face up to their
responsibilities."

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[CTRL] Fw: An aurora alert, plus the biggest sunspot in 10 years!

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Subject: An aurora alert, plus the biggest sunspot in 10
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 Space Weather News for March 29, 2001
 http://www.spaceweather.com

 HUGE SUNSPOT: The largest sunspot in ten years is crossing
the solar disk.
  The fast-growing spot, called AR9393, covers an area of
the Sun
 equivalent to the total surface area of 13 Earths! Visit
spaceweather.com
 to learn how this sunspot compares to others in history
and how to safely
 observe it.

 AURORA ALERT: An eruption near sunspot AR9393 hurled a
coronal mass
 ejection toward Earth on Wednesday.  Forecasters estimate
a 15 to 25%
 chance of severe geomagnetic storms when the expanding
cloud buffets our
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[CTRL] Poison Algae Threatens Norway's Salmon Farms

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Tuesday March 27 12:17 PM ET
Poison Algae Threatens Norway's Salmon Farms

By Jan Oscar de Besche

OSLO (Reuters) - Poisonous algae in the sea off south Norway
is endangering thousands of tones of salmon in another
threat to European food production, Norwegian officials said
on Tuesday.

They said Norwegian-farmed Atlantic salmon were in danger of
being engulfed by a giant swathe of slimy green algae that
suffocates the fish and makes them inedible for humans.

Olav Lekve, spokesman of the Norwegian Directorate of
Fisheries, told Reuters that the algae has already killed
700 tones of salmon in recent days at farms on the southern
tip of Norway. The country is the top world producer of
Atlantic salmon, farming about 400,000 tones a year.

``This could be the worst algae invasion ever for Norwegian
fish farms,'' he said.

He said the algae, apparently a Japanese strain that first
appeared in the North Sea in 1996, could threaten farms with
4,000 tones if winds and currents sweep it westwards round
the coast.

The slimy algae stick to fish gills, causing the salmon to
suffocate. The fish are then unfit for human consumption --
Arctic foxes and mink at fur farms end up dining on salmon.

The same kind of chattonella algae killed 350 tones of fish
off Norway in May 1998. In the worst case so far, about 800
tones of fish died in 1988 from a different type of algae
when Norway only farmed a fraction of its current output.

In the past fish farmers off south Norway have towed the
farms -- giant nets containing thousands of fish -- away
from the path of the algae into narrow fjords.

Lekve said that one farm in Farsund said that 1,000 fish had
died in the latest attack. Each fish weighs about four kg.

Salmon prices have been underpinned in recent months by
European consumers shifting to fish and away from meat in
the wake of the foot-and-mouth epidemic and mad cow disease.

Shares in Norway's biggest salmon producer, Pan Fish, were
down 0.5 Norwegian crown ($0.055) on Tuesday afternoon at
62. Its shares have ranged from a low of 15 in January a
year ago to a high of 81.5 in August.

In another headache for the Norwegian fish farms, Russia
banned imports of Norwegian fish as part of a three-week ban
on meat imports from Europe aimed at preventing the spread
of foot-and-mouth disease, Norwegian media said.

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[CTRL] Bounty for dead Americans


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Mexicans Offer $10,000 Bounty for Dead U.S. Border Patrol Agent
UPI

McALLEN, Texas  A Mexican group is offering a $10,000 bounty to
anyone killing a U.S. Border Patrol agent.
Carlos Ibarra Perez, president of the Citizens Defense Committee,
made the offer Monday in front of city hall in Reynosa, Mexico, the
McAllen (Texas) Monitor reported Tuesday.

Ibarra Perez said he was angry about the slayings and abuse of
illegal aliens in the United States.

"We are ready to defend ourselves," he said. "I am not a terrorist.
I'm a defender of the people."

Ibarra Perez said he was speaking for 5,000 people who were willing
to contribute to the bounty fund.

Jesus Rocha, a neighborhood leader in Reynosa and a member of the
committee, told the Monitor that while he personally would not kill
an agent, he supported the bounty offer.

"We are not afraid," he said. "I'm in support of everything that
Ibarra said."

The Border Patrol was taking the threat seriously along the 2,000-
mile Mexico-U.S. border.

"Agents have been advised to be constantly aware of their
surroundings and exercise extreme caution," said Gustavo de la Vina,
chief of the Border Patrol in Washington.

The U.S. attorney's office in Arizona also has begun an investigation
of the threat, according to the Immigration and Naturalization
Service.

The bounty was sparked by recent killings and threats against illegal
aliens crossing the border into the United States, especially in
Arizona, where vigilante groups have been formed. Ranchers have
formed patrols along the border because of increased vandalism and
trespassing.

In May, two illegal aliens were slain in south Texas. One was shot
and killed by a Border Patrol agent during a struggle for the agent's
baton at Brownsville, and a second was allegedly gunned down by a
Bracketville, Texas, man who had ordered the victim off his property.

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[CTRL] Anarchism vs. Right-Wing 'Anti-Statism'


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December 2000

Anarchism vs. Right-Wing 'Anti-Statism'

By Brian Oliver Sheppard [EMAIL PROTECTED]

It is currently fashionable to claim to hate the government.
One could say it is the general, default position of most
you talk to. But it is not clear why this is so. While you
might think a popular hatred of government would mean the
ranks of anarchists are swelling, it actually isn't the
case.

ANARCHIST RHETORIC GONE MAINSTREAM

Over the past two decades something interesting has occurred
that the anarchist movement has yet to adequately address.
Rhetoric is coming from the mouths of politicians that a
hundred years ago (if not more recently) would have branded
them as "anarchists" or as seditious traitors. Though the
politicians employing this type of rhetoric are most
consistently Republicans, "big government liberals" in the
Democratic Party have also been drawn to this style of
speaking.

The idea they are voicing is a simple one: government is
bad. The bigger it is, the worse it gets. The smaller we
make it, the better for all. We don't want government
butting into our affairs, and we don't want government
regulating us right and left. And, unlike anarchists who in
the 19th century were saying essentially the same thing, the
politicians who endorse this view are not slaughtered en
masse by the National Guard, or framed up on anti-patriotic
conspiracy charges, but are instead elected into that
institution they claim to hate - the government.

Many are the politicians - sitting in the halls of congress
and living a life unknown to many working Americans - that
claim to hate government. They paint opponents as "big
government insiders," and vow to get in office to fight for
you, the commoner, who has a distrust of all those cheating
politicians and of government in general. A huge amount of
politicians ride into office on campaigns with such themes
as "eliminating government" or at least "shrinking" it. "He
wants to increase the size and the scope of the federal
government," George W. Bush said about Al Gore during his
campaign for President in the 2000 election. Vice President
Al Gore countered, "I'm for a smaller, smarter government
that serves people better, but offers real change."

If both sides are honest and are in fact committed to
shrinking government, then this must mean we are
tremendously close to living in a truly free, stateless
society where there is no government at all, right?

Well, no. In fact, just the opposite is occurring.

SELECTIVE SHRINKING, SELECTIVE EXPANSION

Politicians on the Right have co-opted a very long tradition
of anti-government sentiment and are using it, ironically,
to boost themselves into power and eliminate areas of
government that benefit the poor. This is occurring while
they actually increase government in such areas as military
spending, prison spending, corporate welfare, the size of
police forces, and the like. In the twisted Ideology of the
Right, hating that most dastardly of all enemies, the
Federal Government, means hating, in reality, only certain,
selective portions of it: the parts that interfere with the
untrammeled operations of private corporate power, the parts
that provide respite from wage slavery (such as Social
Security or unemployment insurance), the parts that help
underprivileged kids go to college, etc. This is what "big
government" is to them. "Big government" somehow does not
include subsidies to the military industrial complex,
subsidies to the prison industry, bailouts to troubled
mega-corporations, the banking industry, or any of these
things. These are conspicuously off the radar screen of
anyone who rails about the evils of "big government."

Now, historically, when anarchists spoke of eliminating
government, it was not a ploy to get into government and
perpetuate the evil of it, as it seems to be with our
tough-talking Republicans. Hating government meant hating
tyranny and hating the authority of any other human to be
able to tell you what to do. Anarchists literally got killed
for thinking this way. "Hating government" now, however,
seems to be code for hating things like affirmative action
or Medicaid. It doesn't seem to mean hating police officers,
hating war, or hating a defense budget that gets 50% of
every tax dollar. Somehow this extremely substantial part of
government is let off the hook (and is in many cases
venerated). This is what constitutes "hating government" in
this era of doublethink - not hating government really, but
in fact loving its most brutal and violent side in the form
of the military and the police, the courts and the prisons,
and disliking anything that has to do with social spending.


HATE THE GOVERNMENT, LOVE YOUR COUNTRY

"I hate the government, but I love my country," is a
sentiment you will hear a lot amongst the Right these days.
The idea seems to be that the government up in Washington
has become overrun with a politically correct, neo-Socialist
cabal that wants to punish

[CTRL] Pet Food Makers Have No Plans


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To Stop Using Meat  Bone Meal
By Julie Ingwersen
3-24-1

CHICAGO (Reuters) - The pet food industry has no plans to
back away from meat and bone meal, a feed ingredient
suspected of spreading mad cow disease through Europe but
seen as little threat to US pets or livestock.

By contrast, at least three top livestock feed producers
have stopped using cattle-based meat and bone meal as a
precaution, including number three US feed maker Purina
Mills Inc., which dropped the ingredient in January.

Made from ground-up cattle and other types of livestock, and
not always separated by species, meat and bone meal (MBM) is
an inexpensive source of protein. Experts say as long as the
animals used to make MBM are not affected by mad cow
disease, the material is perfectly safe in food for cats and
dogs.

``If the disease doesn't occur here in cattle, there
shouldn't be any danger in pet food,'' said Dr. Lyle Vogel
of the American Veterinary Medical Association.

There has never been a case of mad cow disease, or bovine
spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), confirmed in the United
States. The brain-wasting disease, believed to be caused by
abnormal proteins in the brain and nervous system, is fatal
to cattle. US PET FOOD MAKERS NOT AS CONCERNED AS FEED MILLS

Stephen Payne, a spokesman for the Pet Food Institute, said
the MBM produced in the United States remains an excellent
source of protein and minerals for pets.

``It's an excellent ingredient. It's highly digestible for
dogs and cats,'' said Payne, whose group represents pet food
manufacturers. But individual manufacturers that use MBM
were reluctant to comment on the subject.

In Europe, MBM is believed to have transmitted mad cow
disease after cattle with the disease were ground up and
mixed into rations fed to herds in Britain and on the
continent.

In reaction, the US and other nations established laws to
keep ``byproducts'' from slaughter of cud-chewing, ruminant
animals like cattle, sheep and goats from being fed back to
other ruminants.

Such byproducts are still allowed in feed rations for
non-ruminants like hogs and poultry, and in pet food, based
on scientific opinion that BSE cannot ``jump'' into such
species.

Still, many scientists think feeding cattle MBM made from
sheep carrying the BSE-like disease scrapie was the source
of the original outbreak of BSE in Britain in the
mid-1980's.

Purina Mills CEO Brad Kerbs said in January that he approved
of cattle-based MBM as an ingredient but could not guarantee
that the company's large multi-species livestock feed mills
would be able to keep it segregated from cattle feed, as
required by US law.

Other top ten livestock feed makers shunning cattle-based
MBM include Consolidated Nutrition LC of Omaha, Nebraska,
and Kent Feeds of Muscatine, Iowa.MAD CAT DISEASE IN EUROPE

So are Fido and Snowball safe from mad cow disease?

The question remains since BSE belongs to a family of
diseases, the transmissible spongiform encephalopathies
(TSEs). From studying TSEs, some scientists have linked BSE
with related conditions in humans, sheep, deer and mink--and
cats.

Since 1990, for example, almost 90 cats--including more than
a dozen lions, tigers and other big cats at British
zoos--have been diagnosed in Europe with feline spongiform
encephalopathy.

No specific pet food has been implicated in the cases, but
agriculture officials in Britain said all the cats ate foods
that would be expected to contain animal byproducts.

The number of feline cases has fallen sharply in recent
years as authorities in Britain and elsewhere have worked to
remove contaminated cows from the food and feed chain.

``That epidemic has been over for a while,'' George Gray, a
toxicologist at the Harvard School of Public Health, said of
the feline version of mad cow. ``It's my understanding there
haven't been any cases in a number of years.''FEED MAKERS
ADJUST FOR MBM RULES

In the US pet food industry, MBM remains a popular ``meaty''
ingredient, found most often in dry ``kibble'' pellets but
also in some canned food varieties. Many labels do not
specify whether the meat and bone meal came from cattle.

With ruminant byproducts shut out of cattle feed mixes, more
MBM may also be showing up in pet food, said Dr. Jean Hofve,
a veterinarian with the Animal Protection Institute, an
animal advocacy organization based in Sacramento, Calif.

``There was a huge amount of hog byproducts that were going
into dog food for a while but now is being routed into
ruminant feed. So where is the ruminant (byproduct) going?
Well, it's going where the pig stuff used to go''--into pet
food, she said.

Animal byproducts like MBM comprise only about 5% or less of
a typical livestock feed ration. But because cats and dogs
have different dietary needs, meat byproducts account for up
to 50% of the content in cat food and up to 40% in dog food,
according to a 1997 industry survey.

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Subject: [Fwd: If I Have to Pay Reparations for Slavery . .
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Just *couldn't* resist! :)
Patty


If I Have to Pay Reparations for Slavery . . .
By Patricia Sharon Neill © 2001

Then I want to own some slaves first, at least one or two.
Hellfire and
damnation, make that a whole plantation full. Of course, I
don't own a
plantation, but we'll get to that problem later.

It makes no logical sense to ask me to pay reparations for
slavery unless I
have personally indulged in slavery and caused some actual
harm thereby. So
if "free money" is to be made from my alleged "white guilt,"
I think it only
fair that I have something to be guilty of. And I plan to be
plenty guilty
before I'd be willing to allow any government silly enough
to call me its
"subject" to take my money for reparations for slavery.

I don't particularly care one way or the other what color,
race, ethnicity,
sex, country or planetary origin said slaves come from. The
only slaves I'd
rather avoid are Irish ones on the outside chance that they
could out-drink
and out-talk me, an abhorrent thought.

So, let's get me some slaves.

The only place I know where slavery is still a legal
business concern is
Africa, but I'm not sure if they sell to foreigners as they
used to. Thus,
I'm not at all sure where to get my slaves. However, I have
full confidence
that the delightful black market will find a way of
providing me with plenty
of slaves, as anything banned is always richly available to
those who desire
the contraband, superbly supplied by the ever-talented
sub-rosa, piratical
crowd (cf. drugs, weird sex, endangered species, etc.).

My main problem with this entire idea is what the hell to do
with the slaves
once I have them. I don't own a farm, plantation, big house,
hotel or any
other venture requiring vast amounts of labor. I garden, and
help with the
plowing, planting, weeding, harvesting would always be good.
Slaves could do
some of the chores I currently do, but then, what would I do
with my time?
I'd probably have to spend most of my waking hours figuring
out chores,
tasks, jobs, etc. for the slaves to do, which would leave me
little time of
my own.

What a pain in the keister!

But this is the only way I will accept being taxed to pay
for some horrible
stuff that happened so  long ago that no one is alive who
was either
slave-owner or slave-long before my Irish ancestors happened
upon America,
which they did as indentured servants early on, and in
coffin ships equally
as bad as African slave ships after the Famine. Many, many
peoples have
suffered to come to America-every ethnicity and race on the
face of this
earth struggled to come here.

And prospered. Richly. Mightily. Even African-Americans are
far better off
in America than they would be if the slave-traders had left
them alone. If
African-Americans don't believe me, they should check out
Calcutta, India,
various regions of Africa, the parts of Washington DC where
the real people
live (as opposed to the politicals ...) and other such
dismal seepages.

If we are going to blather on about this ridiculous,
empty-headed "gimme
gimme" of reparations for slavery for African-Americans,
then goddammit, I
want reparations for American-Americans too. We all suffered
to get here and
to get established in this country-Jews, Italians, Germans,
Polish,
Russians, Japanese, Chinese, Turks, Egyptians-you name it,
we're ALL here.
And worse yet, American-Americans continue to suffer from
the Continually
Whining Party-those folks who have no idea of how well off
they are, and who
always want more-more of other people's money, time, and
effort, that is.

You want me to pay reparations for slavery? Fine. I'll do it
once I commit a
whole slew of slavery, and experience the horrors of it
firsthand. I assure
you, I'll try to make sure my slaves experience some horrors
too, which is
the one thing that gives me pause in this entire rant.

I'm afraid I'll have to work much harder than the slaves do,
providing work,
food, clothing, and shelter for them. If that turns out to
be the case, then
I'll sign over my ownership papers to one of my slaves, and
we can take this
really dumb idea as far as it will go.

Hah!

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Sunday's "Pat Shannan's Investigative Reports" will delve into the
perplexing statements by Tim McVeigh heard in the news this week.
Author Bob Papovich (FREEDOM'S END with James Nichols) has interviewed
McVeigh in person, talks with him by phone several times a month, and
knows that Tim is not telling the truth with these recent
statements.

But does Tim know that he is not telling the truth? OR... Did Tim
really even make these outlandish statements ("I did it alone," etc.)
or is this more government controlled propaganda?  After all, we only
have the word of the Buffalo reporters. Mr. Papovich will tell us his
feelings as well as go public for the first time with some legal plans
he and McVeigh had talked about previously.

Six weeks ago, Dallas attorney Harmon Taylor wrote to President Bush
urging him to stay the execution until certain legal questions could
be further pursued.  No reply of course, but Mr. Taylor will talk
about the constitutional abuses in the case among other things.  It
will make for another hour worthy of your tape recorder.

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 Original Message 
Subject: McVeigh's "Confession"
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 14:42:02 -0700
From: "Brian Downing Quig" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Organization: PRIMARY RESEARCH ASSOCIATES
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The original plan of the bombers was to have McVeigh and the passenger found
dead among the rubble.  The bomb was fused to go off with no delay.

Dana Badley testified that VcVeigh exited the drivers side of the truck and
walked hastily toward his car.  The passenger whose job it was the fuse the
bomb had last minute remorse.  Three times this passenger walked from the
front of the truck to the back of the truck.  This gave McVeigh time to get
away.

The passenger opened up the back of the truck and with one foot on the ground
and the other in the truck fused the bomb which went off without a delay. The
blast obliterated all of his body except for the leg on the ground.

Because all the bombs in the building did not detonate and because McVeigh got
away the plan had to change from "home grown terrorists at Elohem City working
with foreign terrorists" to "one man did it alone." The same thing happened in
Dallas in 1963.  First none other than David Atlee Phillips put out the story
that Oswald had met with a Soviet assassination supervisor in Mexico City.
Then when Oswald evaded the cop killer the plan had to be changed to "one
man did it alone."

Oswald and McVeigh were good soldiers who thought their role was undercover
agent.  Both were highly precision agents.

Who did the bombing?  Who benefited?  The FBI was given $800 million and the
CIA was given $300 million.  The photos of the firemen carrying the bloody
children got the anti terrorist bill passed in the senate in 2 days.

And now the bombers are about to execute the best witness.  There seems to
be no limit on the gullibility of the American public.

Brian Downing Quig
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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 and every secret will be made known."
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  Original Message 
 Subject: McVeigh's "Confession"
 Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:43:30 -0800
 From: Jon Roland  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 McVeigh's "Confession"

 Associates can confirm that I have been predicting for a long time that
 there would be a "confession" by Timothy McVeigh contrived by the
 Establishment to counter the widespread suspicions of government complicity
 in the Oklahoma City bombing of April 19, 1995. I predicted that it would
 come out in a book, allegedly based on interviews by "independent"
 journalists. It would be accompanied by a full-court PR campaign involving
 all the major media.

 Now that my prediction has been fulfilled, it is time to comment on this
 event.

 Most people will, of course, simply believe the reports. After all, they
 will say, it is McVeigh speaking. Why would he not be telling the truth when
 he confesses that he did it?

 The answer requires some background knowledge of how such a confession can
 be contrived to be convincing.

 First, we don't really

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An informally produced compendium of vital irregularities.

"We're living in rad times!"
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--U.S. Cyber-Chief Warns of Weaknesses
--Carnivore and Net censorship will save the children
--Darpa mobile project preps 'soldier's radio'
--Concealed-Carry States Have Reduced Crime Rates
--Supersecret NSA said to be falling behind in tech advances
--Summit police to get plastic bullets
--Canada Cracks Down On Hell's Angels
--Fingerprint May Soon Be Needed to Buy Groceries

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Wednesday March 21, 2001

U.S. Cyber-Chief Warns of Weaknesses

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nf/20010321/tc/8348_1.html

By Robyn Weisman, www.NewsFactor.com

The new director of the National Infrastructure Protection Center (NIPC)
told news sources Tuesday that online terrorism and other types of
cybercrime could gravely affect the U.S. economy unless federal agencies
and corporations work together more closely than they have in the past.

Ronald L. Dick, who was appointed Tuesday to the top post of the
multi-agency organization, said that most sections of what he termed the
United States' critical infrastructure, including electric power plants,
federal offices and vital computer systems, are susceptible to everyone
from rogue nations to disgruntled employees.

As he introduced his new NIPC colleagues -- many of whom were culled from
the CIA and the U.S. Department of Defense (DOD) -- Dick said that there
are approximately 1,400 open cybercrime investigations and that the number
is increasing daily. He also disclosed that, on average, 50 new computer
viruses are generated each week, all of which have the potential to cause
damage.

Information Warfare

"Information warfare is obviously something the United States, the National
Security Council, the Department of Defense, the CIA, the FBI and our
private-sector partners are very concerned with," said NIPC's Leslie G.
Wiser Jr., who, like Dick, is an FBI veteran. "We are picking up signs that
terrorist organizations are looking at the use of technology" as a means of
causing future economic destruction.

While agreeing with Wiser, Dick stressed that the most pressing problem
facing both the public and private sectors is a dearth of effective safety
measures to prevent former employees from assaulting computer networks that
are critical to trade.

Said Dick: "The biggest threat is the disgruntled employee, who can do
tremendous damage."

Charles Kolodgy, a research manager at Massachusetts-based IDC, concurred
with Dick's assessment.

"We need to raise the bar on what are accepted security practices within
industry," Kolodgy told NewsFactor Network, adding that sometimes those
practices are as simple as warning employees not to open suspicious e-mails.

Internal NIPC Dissension

Despite the pressing need to protect the national infrastructure, friction
between the federal outfits that comprise the NIPC has thus far hobbled the
agency's pursuit of that objective. In particular, the relationship between
the DOD and the FBI has caused a great deal of dissension.

Kolodgy told NewsFactor that much of the discordance between the FBI and
the DOD stems from budgetary issues. Since both agencies contribute
manpower and resources to the NIPC, differences of opinion have arisen over
who picks up what percentage of the tab for the agency and who has the most
power.

"This friction exists between the DOD and the FBI because of the
differences in their respective missions," Kolodgy said. "The DOD's most
immediate concern is national security, and they distrust the FBI's agenda.
Is it [the formerly-named] Carnivore, or monitoring for criminal activity?"

Added Kolodgy: "The DOD is more apt to stay behind the scenes, whereas the
FBI, whose primary role is prosecution, tends to be out in the public space."

Working Together

Dick admitted that cooperation between U.S. agencies must improve in order
for the NIPC to succeed.

"Any time that you create something new, there are problems getting the
right people on board," Dick said. "I want to instill a new sense of
ownership and urgency.

Added Dick: "The true success in being able to deal with these issues is
building partnerships."

The decision to hire Rear Admiral James B. Plehal, a DOD operative, as
Dick's deputy director appears to be a step in that direction.

"All of what we do concerns relationships," Plehal said. "We at DOD need to
better demonstrate our commitment."

Relationships Can Succeed

IDC's Kolodgy believes that though the NIPC "still has a long way to go,"
the various agencies involved will be able to work out their differences.

"These things do work," said Kolodgy, "because

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"Unless someone like you cares a whole lot, nothing is going to get better.
It's not."
--Dr. Seuss, 'The Lorax'

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--Earth First vs. Earth worst
--French Farmers Sentence Upheld
--Protesters take to tracks ahead of nuclear train
--When the wind blows [radioactivity]
--German police use water cannon on nuke activists
--Protesters force back German nuclear waste train
--Animals 'Could Be Buried Alive'
--Nuclear Train Protesters Removed
--Bill Moyers Takes On Chemical Industry
--Foot And Mouth Crisis (links)
--Animal rights protesters to defy police over demonstration
--Cow Diseases Lift Luxury Leather Price
--Green Party Report on Foot and Mouth
--Chemical Industry Archives

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Earth First vs. Earth worst

As planet degrades, Greens need to learn to fight smarter

The Bush Administration is pushing back protections on clear air and water
standards. Drilling for oil and gas could resume in these federally
protected waters off the California coast.

By Eugene Linden
MSNBC CONTRIBUTOR

 March 22  - President Bush has caved to pressure from energy
industry interests (code for campaign donors) and backed off a Sept. 29
pledge to take action on the threat of human-caused climate change. Bowing
to pressure from the mining industry, Bush has also dismantled federal
standards on arsenic levels in drinking water. Score two big wins for the
corporate Browns in their long-standing rivalry with the Greens in this
latest game in the World Environmental League.


 Greens need to toss their play book and find a legitimate way to level
the playing field.

THIS SHOULD NOT be a surprise, since the Browns are pros
playing for money, while the greens are amateurs playing for effete liberal
ideas like the viability of the planet. Those who protect nature always seem
to be playing touch football while their opponents play tackle and buy the
ref. This is true in the global warming division of the league in the U.S.,
and every division  deforestation, biodiversity, oceans, etc.  in the
developing world. What is surprising is that the great majority of Greens
would not have it any other way.

This is not strictly an American problem. Not too long ago, I
listened as a highly motivated group of environmentalists discussed plans to
fund a pilot project on ecotourism in Quintana Roo, Mexico. The idea was to
point the way towards nature-friendly projects in this beautiful but
vulnerable stretch of Caribbean coast. I should have been swept up by their
idealism, but I wanted to tear my hair. Twelve years earlier, I had visited
this very area and heard highly motivated Greens discuss similar plans to
raise money to fund pilot projects in ecotourism. In the interim, highly
motivated developers have built real hotels, destroying mangroves, killing
reefs, and fouling once-clear sinotes in the process. There are no pilot
hotels.

DANCE OF DESTRUCTION

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technical support.

This was but one episode of a pas de deux of destruction now
playing throughout the developing world. While Greens concoct pilot projects
and scrupulously honor process, developers develop, loggers log, and
poachers poach. When a builder in Quintana Roo or Phuket, Thailand covets a
piece of beachfront property, he does whatever necessary to get the
necessary approvals, produces an environmental impact study that suggests
that sewage is good for coral reefs, and then builds. When environmentalists
find some natural treasure, they hold conferences, fund surveys and
censuses, seek consensus with locals, and then, maybe, end up with a
protected area, but no money for protection. A Green-run airline would have
pilots perpetually training for flights that were forever delayed.

EXPLOITERS ADVANTAGE
When they need it, exploiters have an ace in the hole: corruption.
Payoffs and muscle, ubiquitous in decisions affecting natural areas in the
developing world, utterly trump the law-abiding, bureaucratic approach of
Greens.

   Mario Villanueva, the governor of Quintana Roo, accused of taking
mordida to approve hotels, has gone on the lam, but the damage is done.
When, during the Asian financial crisis, Greens asked then-Treasury
Secretary Robert Rubin to support making new loans to Indonesia contingent
on environmental reform, he replied that the time to talk about environment
was when the country was back on the path to prosperity. Wrong: it was when
Indonesia was richest that its corrupt politicians and generals were the
most destructive.
Things are no better now, though, as free-lance loggers,

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DOJ STEPS UP CHILD PORNOGRAPHY FIGHT
Proposal makes digital cameras "childsafe"

April 1, 2001
By Staff Writer

   WASHINGTON -- Citing the explosive growth in child pornography and
   obscenity, the U.S. Department of Justice aims to rein in the
   fast-growing digital camera industry.

   A DOJ project code-named "Indecent Images" plans to implant
   technologies developed to automatically recognize hard-core Internet
   sex images into the next generation of cameras. An II-compliant camera
   will refuse to take illegal photographs or videos, and could even
   quietly tip off law enforcement to illicit behavior.

   On Friday, a DOJ spokeswoman confirmed the existence of the II
   project, and said that the remarkable number of child pornographers
   now using digital cameras on the Internet underground represents a new
   challenge to law enforcement that Congress should carefully consider.

   The spokeswoman declined to provide details, but one DOJ source said
   the Office of Legislative Affairs has drafted legislation and plans to
   send it to Capitol Hill next month. The Senate has previously voted to
   condemn the menace of children and sex.

   "One we'd prosecute child pornographers who take rolls of film to the
   corner fot-o-mat for developing," said the source, who spoke on
   condition of anonymity. "But now when everything's digital, we can no
   longer protect America's children. We need a new First Amendment for
   the digital age."

   Child pornography appears to be a popular Internet hobby. An Altavista
   search returns 25,999 pages found that "match your search criteria." A
   Google search turns up far more child pornography: 425,000 hits.

   A spokesman for President Bush said the White House supports the II
   plan, which is consistent with the 2000 Republican Party platform that
   urged strenuous activity involving "obscenity and child pornography."
   Bush said last year that: "It's important for us to explain to our
   nation that life is important. It's not only life of babies, but it's
   life of children living in, you know, the dark dungeons of the
   Internet."

   Critics said the II draft bill raises free speech concerns.

   An ACLU spokeswoman said that the II proposal would unreasonably
   restrict legitimate art and photography, and that the technology to
   recognize images as child pornography or obscenity is far from
   perfect. The ACLU and the American Library Association filed suit
   earlier this month to overturn the Children's Internet Protection Act,
   which encourages libraries to use filtering software -- some of which
   uses II-type technology.

   The bill would likely be sponsored in the Senate by Dianne Feinstein
   (D-Calif.) and Judiciary chairman Orrin Hatch (R-Utah), and in the
   House by Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.). Hatch and Feinstein co-sponsored the
   1996 "morphed" child porn law that is currently the subject of a legal
   challenge, and an aide said Feinstein viewed this as a logical
   extension of using technology to thwart inappropriate views and
   behavior.

   The DOJ proposal requires the Federal Communications Commission --
   which already regulates "indecent" broadcasts -- to police the digital
   photo and video industry as well. Any manufacturer seeking a license
   to sell such products in the U.S. after April 1, 2002 would have to
   demonstrate that they were II-compatible to receive FCC approval under
   agency rule 602P.

   Nikon and Canon, which sell digital cameras, could not immediately be
   reached for comment. Kodak faxed a statement to reporters over the
   weekend that said: "We never have approved of the use of our products
   to record intercourse, missionary position or otherwise, with
   children, and we look forward to working with law enforcement to meet
   their concerns."

   The II technology plan, according to an outline provided by the DOJ
   source, has two phases: II.1, which scans images using advanced neural
   networks to recognize and delete illicit material.

   II.2, which would not be mandated until April 1, 2003, is far more
   high-tech. Some observers believe it will spur development of this
   kind of advanced artificial intelligence, giving U.S. tech firms a
   badly-needed boost given the recent stock market downturn.

   The II draft says that "any variant" of digital still or video camera
   must include a GPS device and a transmitter that is compatible with
   U.S. pager networks. When a child pornographer takes an illegal photo,
   the camera recognizes it and transmits an encrypted message containing
   the image, the date, and the location to the local police -- who would
   then raid the home and save the child from continued erotic
   exploitation.

   The Family Research Council, which estimates it has been involved in
   helping police make 83.5 percent of arrests related to child
   pornography,

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Close-Up on Reel Deal in 'Traffic'

US GOVERNMENT'S ROLE NEEDS ITS OWN SEPIA TONES

THE BOSTON GLOBE
Society  Pop Culture
Sunday, March 18, 2001
By Dennis Bernstein and Larry Everest

(Courtesy of Dennis Bernstein; according to the author the article was
"disappeared" from the Globe's website shortly after it was posted).

"Traffic," up for five Academy Awards including best picture, is being
touted as the real deal on America's war on drugs. But how real is it?

"Traffic" is slick. The performances are compelling, the action nonstop,
and the cinematography riveting. It captures some narco-hypocrisies, like
the fact that the war hasn't stopped the drug flow.

"Traffic" doesn't discriminate against illegal drugs, but reminds us that
legal ones like tobacco, alcohol, and tranquilizers are also drugs with
devastating impacts. We certainly wouldn't argue with the movie's theme
that, as screenwriter Stephen Gaghan put it, "drugs should be considered a
health care issue rather than a criminal issue."

And we can understand why so many, who have been so deeply harmed either by
drugs or by the war against them, are glad that the official story is
finally being questioned.

But is it the real deal? Not by a long shot. For every drug truth "Traffic"
portrays, it ignores, obscures, or distorts deeper ones. Two stand out: the
role of the US government and banks in fueling and profiting from the drug
trade, and the targeting of youth and communities of color in the domestic
war on drugs.

In the world of "Traffic," the sordid underbelly of the drug trade lies
across the border in Mexico. There, a corrupt and ruthless general runs
Mexico's war on drugs, cartels wage war on each other for market control,
torture is routine, and bodies litter the streets. It's all shot in sepia
tones, as if Mexico is dirty with drugs.

Across the border in El Norte, however, life is lived in technicolor. The
US antidrug war may be bumbling, inefficient, and hampered by interagency
rivalries, but it's sincere - without a hint of corruption or complicity.

America's drug czar, Judge Robert Wakefield (played by Michael Douglas), is
a naive but ultimately honest and caring family man - in stunning contrast
to his Mexican counterpart.

A real-deal "Traffic" could have begun like this: Scene 1: Nancy Reagan in
the White House introducing her Just Say No campaign against drugs.

Scene 2: Cut to the nearby offices of Attorney General William French
Smith, who is signing a memo assuring the CIA that it will not be held
criminally liable for working with drug traffickers.

Scene 3: Cut to CIA operatives working with traffickers in Central America
to finance the illegal Contra war against the Sandinistas in Nicaragua.

Scene 4: Cut to South Central Los Angeles, where some of these same
traffickers are selling cocaine.

This may seem more fictional than "Traffic," but it's reality. Neither the
media nor Congress ever took on the Contra drug connection in the 1980s,
but it's well documented that the William Casey-Oliver North network
included selling drugs to arm the Contras. (The late Casey was CIA director
in the Reagan administration.)

A July 1985 entry in North's notebook reads "$14 million in Contra money
from drugs."

And former DEA agent Michael Levine, who was working in Latin America at
the time, says he had his own evidence of the CIA's drugs-for-arms dealing:
a Drug Enforcement Administration report stating "the CIA stopped us from
indicting the same people who were selling the Contras drugs." Levine adds,
"If I was working North's case, I would have tracked him and the rest of
them, from the time they got up in the morning until the time they went to
bed at night."

Levine, who worked as a drug enforcement agent for over 20 years, calls the
Contra drug connection "small potatoes" compared with US actions in Mexico.

Levine's real-life storyline goes like this: On assignment in Mexico in the
late 1980s, he's part of a drug sting that leads to the highest levels of
the Mexican government of Carlos Salinas de Gotari. Just when he and his
fellow DEA agents were going to put the bite on Mexico's top drug dealers,
the US attorney general, Edwin Meese, warned Mexico's attorney general of
the DEA operation. The whole operation went up in smoke, so to speak, and
the United States maintained close relations with the Salinas government.

Salinas's brother Raul is now in prison for drug trafficking, and there is
evidence that the former president himself amassed some $600 million in
drug profits, stashed in some 60 banks around the world. Perhaps the US
senators who made cameo appearances in "Traffic" - Orrin Hatch, Barbara
Boxer, Chuck Grassley, Harry Reid, and Don Nickles - should have explained
on camera why the Senate has voted year after year to certify Mexico's
compliance with the war on drugs.

Such official collaboration with drug traffickers has been repeated in many
other countries such as Peru and Colombia. Levine

[CTRL] Fwd: The Boy Who Cried Wolfowitz







Hi Kris:  I hope you find this interesting. Feel free
to post it on CTRL.org. And congratulations to you and
Daniel H. for publishing Barry and the Boys.

Best, Rich




The following is a first draft of a longer paper in
progress on U. S. foreign policy under President Bush.





   The Boy Who Cried Wolfowitz:  The New President's
   Bush League Foreign Policy


So where's the humility?  The early pronouncements of
the new Bush administration of a foreign policy marked
by humility has failed to materialize.  In fact, just
the opposite appears to be happening.

On January 2nd, Bush Press Secretary Ari Fleischer
said the new President wanted advisers on his foreign
policy team who believe America must play a humble
role in the world.  Despite that statement, in every
important area of policy formulation, the imprimatur
of Paul Wolfowitz's unmistakably aggressive posturing
for global hegemony has emerged.

The new Deputy Defense Secretary is the author of an
infamous memorandum that describes his foreign policy
vision for the next century. The goal outlined in his
paper is to prevent the emergence of any potential
rivals to US global domination. It encourages
aggressive measures to reduce the power of regional
rivals and render impotent the military threat from
any other country or block of nations so they are
incapable of challenging the authority of the only
remaining superpower.

This may be wise policy but it is not consistent with
what was advertised by Fleischer back in January. The
addition of other national security hawks on the Bush
team such as Vice President Cheney, Defense Secretary
Rumsfeld, Deputy Secretary of State Armitrage, United
Nations Ambassador Negroponte as well as National
Security Avsiser Rice and Secrerary of State Powell
are clear signs that Wolfowitz's perspective is the
one that most reflects the President's views.

A close look at the first 2 months bears this out.

The President of South Korea, a Nobel Peace Prize
winner, has been told to cool it with respect to
negotiating better relations with the North and is
chastized for opposing National Missle Defense.

Regarding the delicate situation with China, Taiwan is
soon to receive new enhanced armaments that have the
PRC seeing "red" and renewing their threats of
invasion.

Russia has been slandered for its concern that NMD,
NATO expansion, putting down the Chechen insurrection,
selling arms, turmoil in the Balkans and attempting to
compete for Caspian oil has upset the White House
leaders.

In the Balkans, humility is completely invisible as
the
CIA trained KLA expands its pursuit of a Greater
Albania by taking the fight into Southern Serbia and
Macedonia. Rather than withdrawing from the region
as intimated during the campaign or taking any
responsibility for the dastardly bombing of Serbia
with depleted uranium, Bush and his advisers continue
to heap blame on the latest scapegoat for US
aggression by supporting the arrest of "war criminal"
Milosevic.  Their shamelessness extends to
conditioning aid to Kostunica's struggling regime on
cooperation with the ICTY funded by George Soros and
other Westerners with serious conflicts of interest.


Any search for evidence of restraint by the new
President regarding the Middle East also leaves much
to be desired. The continued bombing of Iraq at a time
of considerable international pressure for an end to
sanctions is anything but humble. Giving the newly
elected prime minister of Israel a green light to
pursue his propensity to punish the Palestinians with
massive firepower is the opposite of what some
(including a majority of the Security Council and the
Secretary General of the UN) feel is appropriate.
The recent US veto of the resolution to place an
observer force in the battle zone reflects hubris
rather than humility.

Any doubt as to the intensity of commitment to enforce
the hegemonic designs foretold several years ago in
the infamous Wolfowitz memorandum can readily be seen
in 2 seemingly minor and little noticed incidents. The
first involves the anger expressed toward Columbia for
its sponsoring the UN resolution on the Middle East
observer force. The administratin was so upset that it
threatened future retaliation against the country it
is currently supporting in its war against drug
dealers.

The other matter involves the threat to withdraw Czech
sponsorship of an upcoming NATO meeting planned for
next year because of disputed language in a draft
human rights resolution regarding Cuba.  This is more
evidence of arrogance and an imperialistic mind-set
rather than the low-key approach we were promised.

And there is more, much more. Unilateral withdrawal
from the Kyoto Accord has outraged much of Europe as
well as many other nations. The clear indication to
abrogate (again, unilaterally) the ABM treaty in order
to pursue Rumsfeld's Space Force and NMD scenario are
clear signs that the Wolfowitzian vision prevails at
the highest levels of this

[CTRL] Federal bill would silence NRA, GOA (fwd)


-Caveat Lector-

Read carefully.  NRA also opposes this bill.

Senate OK's Free Speech Restrictions
   -- GOA's ability to inform you about anti-gun politicians to be seriously
  restricted if McCain Incumbent Protection bill passes

Gun Owners of America E-Mail/FAX Alert
   8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408

(Tuesday, March 27, 2001) -- Last night, the Senate passed a Wellstone (D-MN)
amendment which would
outlaw many forms of pro-gun advocacy within 60 days of an election. The provision
passed by a vote of 51-46 and
amends the McCain-Feingold Incumbent Protection Bill which the Senate is currently
considering.

On one hand, the Wellstone amendment has been labeled a "bill killer" because
it may invite the Supreme Court to
strike down the whole bill if it is contested after becoming law. Given the repressive
nature of this bill, this would be
good news.

The problem is that, unless and until this provision is struck down by the courts,
the Wellstone amendment would
be a "free speech killer" for gun activists who rely on groups like Gun Owners
of America to inform them on how
their legislators are behaving in Washington, D.C.

The Wellstone amendment would prohibit groups like GOA from running TV or radio
ads that mention a
candidate's name in the 60 days prior to an election. This Senate amendment outlaws
free speech two months
before an election for everyone but the media and federal candidates.

Not only would this create a "speech monopoly" for the media and incumbents,
it would serve as a true Incumbent
Protection Plan.

Further complicating the vote yesterday is the fact that many conservative opponents
of the McCain bill voted IN
FAVOR of the amendment. They argue that by poisoning the bill with an obviously
unconstitutional amendment,
they will force the Supreme Court to strike down the entire bill. Regardless,
they are putting the free speech rights
of all Americans in a precarious situation.

After the Wellstone amendment passed yesterday with support from very conservative
senators, GOA Executive
Director Larry Pratt remarked:

 The Senate has embarked upon a dangerous strategy. I've been in this fight
long enough that I
 remember folks giving up on Congressional attempts to repeal the DC gun
ban in the late 1970s
 because we would supposedly "beat it in the courts." Well, a quarter of
a century later, we're still
 waiting for the courts to strike down the DC ban.

The lesson learned is clear: it is very dangerous to rely on the courts to do
the right thing.

Gun Owners of America would urge activists all over the country to ask their
Senators once again to oppose the
McCain-Feingold Incumbent Protection Bill. The Wellstone amendment which passed
yesterday makes this bill a
campaign finance "deform" bill -- now even more than before -- by silencing Americans
who are not in the media or
who are not federal incumbents in office.

ACTION: Please call or fax or e-mail your two Senators and ask them to vote against
S. 27, the Incumbent
Protection Bill sponsored by Senators John McCain (R-AZ) and Russ Feingold (D-WI).
You can call the Senate at
202-224-3121, or toll-free at 1-877-762-8762. Forward this alert to as many gun
owners as possible.

To identify your Senators, as well as to send a message via e-mail, see the Legislative
Action Center at
http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm on the GOA website.

- Pre-written message -

Dear Senator:

The Wellstone amendment which passed this week makes the McCain-Feingold bill
a campaign finance "deform"
bill -- now even more than before -- by silencing Americans who are not in the
media or who are not federal
incumbents in office.

The Wellstone amendment would prohibit government watchdog groups from running
TV or radio ads that mention
a candidate's name 60 days before an election. That is, the Wellstone amendment
would eliminate such ads for
everyone but the media and federal candidates. As such, this bill creates a "speech
monopoly" for the media and
incumbents and is nothing more than an Incumbent Protection Plan.

I rely on legislative advocacy groups to inform me about what is going on in
Washington. I would rather not leave
that job to the media or to the Congress right before an election.

Please vote against S. 27, and don't simply rely on the Supreme Court to strike
down this bill. This bill is dangerous
for our republican system of government. It is unconstitutional and denies the
free speech rights of millions of
Americans.

Sincerely,

___

**

Note Regarding E-mail to Congress:

Recent news stories about a study purporting to show a "crisis" in the handling
of Congressional e-mail have given
rise to Internet rumors and misconceptions. One such rumor is that e-mail to
Congress is largely ignored.

The kernel of truth causing the problem is

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Night Lights from the Sun

2001-04-01 Thread Tenorlove


-Caveat Lector-

I was wondering about this. Saturday morning, about 2 am, I heard
voices outside, and I went to investigate -- turns out the neighbors
were arguing -- and I looked up, and the sky was blood red. I thought
maybe I'd been spending too much time on the Internet, especially since
right about then, the toilet flushed itself. I actually got scared, I
was home alone that night  wondering if this was a foreboding. Thanks
Kris, for this article.

Tenorlove
replacing the guts in the toilet tank tomorrow



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[CTRL] Regarding Henry Kissinger (fwd)


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Regarding Henry Kissinger
http://www.harpers.org/online/kissinger_forum/kissinger_forum.php3?pg=1

The following forum was held on February 22, 2001, at the National Press
Club in Washington, D.C. The conversation was moderated by Lewis H. Lapham,
editor of Harper's Magazine, and was broadcast live by C-SPAN. For more
information on the Kissinger debate, please visit Britannica.com.
http://www.britannica.com/bcom/original/article/0,5744,17211,00.html

==

Scott Armstrong
is the Executive Director of The Information Trust and founder of The
National Security Archive.

Christopher Hitchens
is the author of "The Case Against Henry Kissinger" (Harper's Magazine,
February and March 2001) as well as When the Borders Bleed: The Struggle of
the Kurds (Random House, 1997), Blaming the Victims: Spurious Scholarship
and the Palestine Question (Verso, 1986), and No One Left to Lie To: The
Triangulations of William Jefferson Clinton (Verso, 1999).

Stanley I. Kutler
is the E. Gordon Fox Professor of American Institutions at the University of
Wisconsin and the author of Abuse of Power: The New Nixon Tapes (The Free
Press, 1997).

Roger Morris
is a former member of the National Security Council under presidents Johnson
and Nixon, and the author of Partners in Power: The Clintons and Their
America (Henry Holt  Co., 1996) and Uncertain Greatness: Henry Kissinger
and American Foreign Policy (HarperCollins, 1977).

Alfred P. Rubin
is the Distinguished Professor of International Law at the Fletcher School
of Law and Diplomacy, Tufts University, and the author of The Law of Piracy
(Transnational Publishers, 1998) and Ethics and Authority in International
Law (Cambridge University Press, 1997).


Lewis Lapham: You can begin, Christopher.

Christopher Hitchens: Thank you, Lewis. And thank you, ladies and gentlemen,
for coming. I'm acutely conscious of having already had my say, so to speak,
at some length. And acutely conscious also of being the only one who stands
between you and people who have greater expertise than I do.

But I thought I would offer you a play on some recent words you may have
been made to memorize. These words are: peaceful, orderly, democratic
transition. You may have heard these words recently uttered in a
self-congratulatory, not to say self-regarding, manner. You may have had the
opportunity to tire of hearing the words peaceful, orderly, democratic
transition. You may have wondered why you are so often assured that the
great distinction of the United States is what it does, or has, or can boast
of. You may even think that it's slightly sinister that you keep being told
that you have a peaceful, democratic, orderly transition. You may even
wonder why, if it was so obvious, it had to be restated so often. So I'll
stop saying it myself, hoping I've made my play on words direct your
attention to two elements of my folio on Mr. Kissinger..

The first is the election of 1968 in these United States. If I can make a
claim to-not to originality, perhaps, but to a certain synthesis in what
I've written-it would be this: I think that I can say that Harper's has
published for the first time the summation of all the available evidence of
how that election was undermined, distorted, and fixed by a most appalling
piece of cynicism by Richard Nixon and others, who negotiated secretly with
a foreign military dictatorship to undermine the position of the United
States government and its legal and visible negotiators in Paris. They made
an illegal and immoral pact that this foreign military dictatorship would
get a better deal from an incoming Republican administration. And in making
this pact they took out what one might euphemistically describe as a
mortgage or lease on another four years of an already proven immoral and
atrocious war.

The combination of the subversion of that election and the extension of that
war is the price of the bargain, which qualifies, I think, to be termed,
without any other statement, the single wickedest act in the history of this
republic. And it may be doubted whether it quite qualifies under the
tradition of a democratic, peaceful, and orderly transition. Of the four
people who concerted that policy-Richard Nixon, Attorney General John
Mitchell, Vice President Spiro Agnew, and Henry Kissinger-only one has
escaped any kind of indictment so far. John Mitchell was the first attorney
general to go to jail. Richard Nixon had to accept a pardon in order to
avoid indictment and impeachment. And Spiro Agnew had to publicly resign.
There's only one unindicted co-conspirator still on the loose. I suggest
that's a reproach to a country that considers itself to be bound by law and
bound by justice.

Democratic, peaceful, orderly transition was also the great boast, and
rightly so, of the people of Chile, our southern neighbor-a country that has
never offended or threatened to offend (or had the capacity to offend or
threaten) the United States.

Re: [CTRL] Creating a market for Star Wars

2001-04-01 Thread lassey


-Caveat Lector-

I have NO idea what you are talking about. What is a boss hog,
deliverance from what?

On Sat, 31 Mar 2001 21:29:18 EST William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
 In a message dated 3/31/01 7:08:26 PM Central Standard Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 writes:


  If all the stolen/illegal/corrupted/bought votes be gathered up
 ALL
  ACROSS
  the country, it would be seen that Bush did NOT lose the popular
  vote. But the intention is to not let the truth be known so that
 the
  loosers can keep placating their slaves by saying the same lies
 for
 

 Did you pass the remedial english classes you were undoubtedly
 required to
 take in order to graduate junior high?
 You read like Boss Hogg...cue the Deliverance soundtrack!!!

 It's clear that Bush lost the popular vote...get over it!!

 Bill.

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Re: [CTRL] Black reparations: David Horowitz is incorrect. Reply. j2

2001-04-01 Thread lassey


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Forbears? Threebears Fivebears
--

On Sun, 1 Apr 2001 12:38:40 -0500 Linda Minor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 -Caveat Lector-

 That's what they told us in the 60s and 70s when we said the Vietnam
 War was
 set up for someone to make money off it.  Remember:

 America, love it or leave it.

 I love the irony in your message to descendants of black slaves who
 were
 brought to this country involuntarily on the ships of profiteers,
 many of
 whom also made fortunes in pushing opium.  You don't like this
 country and
 what was done to your forebears?  You're now free to find your way
 back to
 where you came from.

 Linda

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Saturday, March 31, 2001 8:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [CTRL] Black reparations: David Horowitz is incorrect.
 Reply.
 j2


 -Caveat Lector-
 
 The person who came up with this idiotic reparations idea needs
 more than
 reparations-he/she needs more brain cells besides the one he/she
 has!!!
 
 Stupid!!  If someone does not like it here in America they
 are
 free
 to go to some other, 'better' place, if they can find it.
 
 ---
 
 On Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:22:25 -0500 "Nurev Ind."
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 writes:
  -Caveat Lector-
 
  www.frontpagemag.com
 
  Debt Wrong
 
  David Horowitz is incorrect. It's time for the
  United States to pay up for slavery.
  by Earl Ofari Hutchinson
  Salon.com |June 5, 2000
  URL: http://www.frontpagemag.com/dh/hutchinson06-05-00p.htm
 
 
 
  FORMER ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER David Ben-Gurion gave
  the best answer to David
  Horowitz's straw man question,
  "Does Oprah need reparations?"
 
  In 1952 Germany agreed to pay
  reparations to Israel. Ben-Gurion called it
  "collective reparation" not just for the Holocaust
  survivors but for "a people that have been persecuted,
  oppressed and plundered for hundreds of
  years." He understood that collective suffering and
  victimization demanded collective restitution. A
  half century later the Israeli government still receives
  billions in payments from Germany, even
  though most Israelis weren't even born during the
  Holocaust and many of them are prosperous
  and successful professionals and businesspeople.
 
  The rest of Horowitz's long-winded diatribe against
  reparations is a mix of misstatements of fact,
  distortions and jumbled logic. But when you strip it
  all away there are four reasons, not 10, why
  Horowitz does not believe African-Americans should
  receive reparations for America's history of
  slavery.
 
  Argument No. 1 -- A handful of Southern planters, not the
  U.S. government, business or whites in
  general were responsible for and profited from slavery.
 
  The U.S. government encoded slavery in the Constitution,
  and protected and nourished it for a
  century. Traders, insurance companies, bankers, shippers
  and landowners made billions off of it.
  Those ill-gotten profits fueled America's industrial might.
  Meanwhile, white labor groups benefited
  for decades after slavery insured that blacks were
  excluded from unions and the trades and
  confined to the dirtiest, poorest-paying jobs.
 
  While many whites and non-white immigrants did come
  to America after the Civil War, they were
  not subjected to decades of relentless racial terror
  and legal segregation as were blacks. This gave
  them the political and economic breathing space needed
  to open businesses, gain access to public
  and private education, enter the professions, and the
  freedom to buy and rent in neighborhoods of
  their choice. They had another advantage. Through the
  decades of slavery and Jim Crow
  segregation, African-Americans were transformed into
  the poster group for racial dysfunctionality
  that Horowitz giddily reminds the world of. The image
  of blacks as lazy, crime and violence
  prone, irresponsible and sexual predators has stoked
  white fears and hostility and served as the
  standard rationale for lynchings, racial assaults, hate
  crimes and police violence.
 
  Argument No. 2 -- Slavery is long past, blacks are
  living better than ever, and besides, they have
  already gotten their payback with welfare, social and
  education programs, civil rights legislation
  and affirmative action programs.
 
  Really? So why did a recent poll by the National
  Conference for Community and Justice, a
  Washington, D.C., public policy group, find that
  blacks are still overwhelmingly the victims of
  racial discrimination? Even this is too charitable.
  It's not, as Horowitz implied, some deep-seated
  victim neurosis that blacks suffer from. They are
  victims of the hideous legacy of slavery.
 
  The result: Blacks make up more than half of the 2
  million prisoners in American prisons. They
  receive stiffer sentences than whites for possession
  of drugs and petty crimes. They have the
  highest rates

Re: [CTRL] Creating a market for Star Wars

2001-04-01 Thread lassey


-Caveat Lector-

Same thing as a forbear.
-

On Sun, 1 Apr 2001 12:32:34 -0500 Linda Minor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 -Caveat Lector-

 What's a "looser"?


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Saturday, March 31, 2001 8:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [CTRL] Creating a market for Star Wars


 -Caveat Lector-
 
 If all the stolen/illegal/corrupted/bought votes be gathered up ALL
 ACROSS
 the country, it would be seen that Bush did NOT lose the popular
 vote. But the intention is to not let the truth be known so that the
 loosers can keep placating their slaves by saying the same lies for
 the next 4 years. Well, blab on. No one is listening.
 
 
 
 
 On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:58:26 EST William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 writes:
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  Creating a market for Star Wars
 
  Gordon Barthos
  COLUMNIST
 
 
 
  SPACE DREAM: The U.S. has been talking about Star Wars since 1983.
  GEORGE BUSH can't claim a mandate to rock the geopolitical boat,
  much less
  capsize it.
  He barely got elected last fall. He lost the popular vote.
  And after 10 weeks his approval rating is sliding fast.
  Yet Bush has startled friends and foes alike with the sheer
  abrasiveness of
  his attitudes toward Russia, China and North Korea, and his
  indifference to
  world opinion on issues like global warming.
  Last week Bush discovered that the Russians have spies, and gave
 50
  of them
  the heave-ho. He's been cool to meeting Vladimir Putin to talk
 arms
  control.
  His officials call the Russians "a nation of proliferators;" they
  complain
  about Moscow selling Iran weapons; they meet Chechen separatists.
  Eyeing China, they talk about the need to "fight and win a nuclear
  war," with
  Asia as the likeliest battleground. They see China as a
  "competitor," not a
  strategic partner, and lambaste it for selling Iraq technology.
 They
  talk of
  selling Taiwan powerful anti-missile defences.
  Meanwhile, Bush has undercut South Korea's bid to get North Korea
 to
  shelve
  its missile program, as it has its nuclear program, in exchange
 for
  trade and
  aid.
  The Bush White House calls this "clarity, realism, decisiveness."
  Critics
  call it folly.
  As the wreckage piles up, Republican think tanks crank out
 alarmist
  studies
  to demonstrate that the continental United States is open to
 attack
  and
  intimidation.
  Has the world suddenly gone on a war footing?
  Hardly.
  But the Cold War era people around Bush Ñ Vice-President Dick
 Cheney
  and
  Defence Secretary Don Rumsfeld, to name two Ñ are truly ambitious
  patriots.
  They know that the U.S. is undefeatable, and has been for a decade
  or more.
  They dream of making it invulnerable as well. They don't want even
  to be
  threatened by pipsqueak powers.
  They are convinced that Ballistic Missile Defence can deliver that
  invulnerability.
  Ronald Reagan dreamed up Star Wars in 1983 as a hedge against
 Soviet
  attack.
  When the Soviets went away, Iraq became the new threat. Once Iraq
  was
  humbled, North Korea stood in as the villain.
  There's no prize for spotting a trend here.
  If the Bush administration doesn't play its cards carefully, North
  Korea will
  go cuddly and there won't be a half-credible enemy left to shield
  against.
  Most Americans support the idea of a Fortress North America.
  But as the U.S. economy slows and Bush has to trim his $1.6
 trillion
  tax cut
  or slash federal health, education and social services, people may
  think
  twice about sinking $100 billion into a missile shield, absent a
  clear and
  present danger.
  However, if Washington can make a persuasive case that the U.S. is
  surrounded
  by hostile countries, Star Wars would be an easier sell.
  This has implications for Prime Minister Jean Chrétien's
 government,
  indeed
  for all U.S. allies.
  We've been lobbied by Washington to keep an "open mind" about
  missile
  defence, at least until Bush rolls out his plans later this year.
  Meanwhile, U.S. officials are working overtime to persuade us that
  (1)
  missile defence can work; (2) that its deployment is both
 necessary
  and
  inevitable; and (3) that allies must sign on, or kiss off defence
  co-operation.
  Flawed though these premises are, the Chrétien government is
 
  choosing not to
  question them. It should.
  The Bush administration seems bent on creating sufficient friction
  to make
  the world a truly interesting place. Not one in which Canadians
 can
  feel
  safer.
  That's a stiff price to pay for Republican daydreams.
  Realistically, do the Americans face a

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