[CTRL] CHARGE U.S.-NATO LEADERS WITH WAR CRIMES
The Committee for National Solidarity Tolstojeva 34, Belgrade, YU CHARGE U.S.-NATO LEADERS WITH WAR CRIMESIt is not the leaders of Serbia and of Yugoslavia who committed war crimes in the Balkans, it is the leaders of NATO. They waged a cruel 78-day bombing campaign against the civilian population of Yugoslavia and lied in every way and form to justify it. They poisoned the land, air and water by bombing refineries in Novi Sad and chemical plants in Pancevo, by firing radioactive depleted-uranium weapons. They allowed the KLA to drive Serbs, Roma and other peoples out of occupied Kosovo. APPEALWE THE EX-NATO GENERALS FOR PEACE AND DISARMAMENT DEMAND1/ THE 15 NATO LEADERS AND MAINLY CLINTON, ALBRIGHT, COHEN, SOLANA,BLAIR, COOK AND CLARK, SHOULD BE BROUGHT BEFORE THE COURT FOR THEIR WARCRIMES AGAINST THE PEOPLE, FOR THEIR CRIMES PEACE AND THEIR CRIMESAGAINST THE HUMANITY. ALSO SHOULD BE BROUGHT BEFORE THE COURT FOR THEIRWARCRIMES AGAINST THE PEOPLE OF CYPRUS SULEIMAN DEMIREL AND HENRY KISSIGER(FORTHE ATTILA AGGRESSION IN 1974), AS WELL AS ARIEL SARON AS THE BUTHCER OFTHE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE.2/ THE BOMBING BY THE RADIOACTIVE AND HIGHLY TOXIC ( FROM U-236 +PLUTONIUM) AMMUNITIONS IS A CRIME AGAINST THE HUMANITY AND THE NATURE AND SHOULD BE BANNED IMMEDIATELY. 3/ NATO MUST COMPENSATE ALL DAMAGES(HEALTH , ECOLOGICAL AND ECONOMICAL), INFLICTEDIN THE FORMER YUGOSLAVIA AND BALKAN COUNTRIES FROM THEIR BOMBING.You can share this Appeal with other Internet recipientsMajor General Kostas X. Konstantinidis(Ret)(the coordinator) Mrs Jela Jovanovic, art historian Secretary General
[CTRL] Yugoslav President Vojislav Kostunica
The Committee for National Solidarity Tolstojeva 34, Belgrade, YU Yugoslav President Vojislav Kostunica [EMAIL PROTECTED]DSS (Mr. Kostunica's party) [EMAIL PROTECTED]Yugoslav Prime Minister Zoran Djindjic, c/o "Democratic Party of Serbia"[EMAIL PROTECTED]Dear President Kostunica and Prime Minister Djindjic,Once again, the Yugoslav nation and the Serbian people are being subjectedto blackmail and vilification on the part of the U.S. government and NATO.It is time -- in fact, it is long past time -- to say "No," once and forall, to any and all demands to compromise the sovereignty of the Yugoslavnation and the well-being of the Serbian people.No matter what Mr. Milosevic may or may not have done with regard to thefinancial situation in Yugoslavia, any attempt to arrest him will be, andisbeing, interpreted as another long step on the slippery slope towardsellinghim out to the Hague "Tribunal." This sudden urgency to arrest Mr.Milosevicin time to meet the shameful ultimatum of the U.S. government is, all tooclearly, a sell-out, in return for the promise of a pathetically smallamount of U.S. "aid" and in fear of threatened reimposition of sanctions.Along with the obvious fact that it is morally wrong to sell out in thisway, it is also wrong for the following practical reasons:1. The U.S. government has scarcely any genuine allies any more, other thanthe morally bankrupt and shaky Tony Blair regime. We do not believe thattheU.S. government any longer has the capability to succeed in repeating itscrimes of two years ago.2. Nor does it appear that any NATO government other than that of TonyBlairhas any genuine interest in stirring up a crisis in order to round up moreindictees to send to the Hague "Tribunal." Thus, even the threat of renewedsanctions is most likely an empty one.3. The U.S. government has a pitifully poor record with regard to keepingits promises, especially with regard to "aid." Instead of getting ready tosell out your nation's sovereignty in return for empty promises andthreats,you should be demanding -- UNCONDITIONALLY -- one hundred billion dollars'worth of reparations from the U.S. and NATO, payable immediately and incash.4. Finally, why aren't both of you demanding that EVERYONE who has beenresponsible for the use of depleted uranium, cluster bombs, and othercriminal means of warfare against your nation, be put on trial? Given thatthe aggressor nations are unwilling even to consider the possibility ofholding these perpetrators accountable, why do you not insist that they allbe turned over to the Yugoslav government for trial?We hope the Yugoslav nation and theSerbian people, under your administration not slide down to the bottom ofdisgrace . It is time to resist again toward the new humiliatingimperialists aggression against the Serbian nation. Truly YoursMajor Gen. Kostas Konstantinidis(Ret)member of wx-NATO Generals for Peace Disarmament Mrs Jela Jovanovic, art historian Secretary General
Re: [CTRL] Federal bill would silence NRA, GOA (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Notice how it is always "Freedom of the Press" and those assholes alone are to decide what can be said and not said? Larry Flynt would have you believe he was shot for Freedom of the Press Isn't it freedom of speech - yet look at this ADL attempting all kinds of censorship from books that are to be published to words written and spoken by Militias, Christians, and Moslems whom ADL puts on hate lists for FBI consumption - why KGB sits in FBI offices calling some important shots??? Consider too, Freeh and his breaking of bread with golly gee, the KGB agent in Moscow.sleeping with the enemy?' So Remember Oklahoma, an inside job - and reember Waco - and then think about "Freedom of the Press" for the voice of the people would be silenced and the propaganda press for the likes of a Clinton, would mold public opinion - you cannot put new wine in old bottles, though. Walter Lippman was involved in calculated premeditated murder by propaganda for that is the name of othe game. Watch your children for this same "Freedom of the Press" permits sodomy to be taught to your children yet forbids a simple prayer to be said or even thought while the barbarians at the gate away their prey's corruption by "freedom of the press". So ADL will continue to be the little cats paw for the IRS, FBI, and Bnai Brith masonic order? Boy that bunch - note all the gold in the bible all charted out for all to see - and then the back of that dollar bill...ADL attemts to silence all voices of Americans unless they sing out of the same songbook - Hail Zion. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] (Fwd) I-Net Privacy
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- From http://reason.com/0104/cr.jd.surfing.html }}Begin REASON * April 2001 Surfing Secrets The multiple meanings of online privacy. By Jennifer DePalma The Hundredth Window: Protecting Your Privacy and Security in the Age of the Internet, by Charles Jennings and Lori Fena, New York: The Free Press, 278 pages, $26 Internet privacy isnt just one debate, its several. One involves how much information an e-business should be allowed to require of its customers, and what it should be allowed to do with the data it collects. (Does a Web site, say, have the right to pass data along to third parties?) Another debate centers around when the government should have access to information shared online. Then theres online anonymity: Should people be allowed to post e-mails or Web pages under false names? What should be the legal repercussions of giving a site false information? And dont forget things like firewalls that protect sites from unwanted visitors and encryption tools that keep data and information top secret. The police want to be able to search networks for illegal activity (gambling , child pornography, hacking, etc.). They therefore dislike the idea of strong encryption -- or would at least like a guaranteed means of breaking that encryption should the need arise. But weaker encryption increases the chances that your privacy will be violated -- that someone else will get access to the information you transmit online. Its an important set of arguments. Many people understandably dislike the thought of corporations or the government amassing detailed profiles of them: Even if the profile keepers have the best of intentions, theres sti ll the possibility of stolen identity or wrongful accusation. How receptive consumers are to e-commerce depends on how secure they feel using it. On the other hand, such information is valuable to companies: It helps them learn what their consumers want and improve their products. It sounds like a tangle, but theres a straightforward thread that runs through all of these questions: how best to balance economic and technological improvement with freedom and personal space. Yet the debates often clo ud this basic concern by spinning worst-case scenarios as though they were commonplace. Hyperbole, wild generalizations, and outlandish predictions about the possible uses and likely abuses of information are common. Few authors present the facts and lay out the issues in a way that lets laypeople develop an informed opinion, deciding for themselves what potential dangers are lurking. The Hundredth Window is, for the most part, an exception. Authors Charles Jennings and Lori Fena give their readers the tools to make competent, independent decisions -- if readers are willing to endure some slanted edito rializing and ignore some grandiose theorizing. Jennings and Fena, founders of TRUSTe, an Internet privacy assurance organization, have put together a nuts-and-bolts text that summarizes the current debate and highlights the major events that have influenced it. There are some splashes of hyperbole and fear mongering, too, but that seems to come with the territory. The book includes some useful hints on protecting your privacy while you surf the Web and engage in e-commerce. Interspersed among chapters on the development of data and the authors relevant theories are "Tips and Trick s" -- practical, easy-to-follow instructions on erasing cookies, securing passwords, keeping e-mail private, and other ounces of prevention, as well as advice on what to look for in a Web sites privacy policies. Like most commentators, Jennings and Fena view privacy concerns from the perspective of the frightened consumer looking for an impractical degree of control over the information he volunteers on the Web. One of the princi ples endorsed, borrowed from the Online Privacy Alliance, is this: "No data should be collected from you and used without your permission." Requiring consent above and beyond that implied in volunteering the information h as led to efforts as ridiculous as demanding a parents written assent -- via the U.S. mail! -- before a child could interact with a Web site. But the authors also detail the benefits of releasing information -- cheaper prices, personalized service, quicker transactions -- more honestly than most privacy advocates do. The authors realize that many users find th e Internet relatively safe and are willing to trade privacy for convenience. The authors do not think such confidence will continue, however, and predict that abuses of personal information will increase to an extent like ly to drive e-consumers from the ease of ordering groceries and books online back to old-fashioned shopping in person at local stores. In their words: "Unless [personal data] collection and use become both measured and monitored, our great new electronic commons of the Internet may itself be put at risk, as
[CTRL] NYP: TIME TO AUDIT JACKSON INC.
-Caveat Lector- TIME TO AUDIT JACKSON INC. New York Post-Sunday, April 1, 2001 By ROD DREHER NOW is the time for IRS agents to seize the records of Jesse Jackson's non-profit Citizenship Education Fund. There is credible reason to believe - though as yet no proof - that Jackson may have used CEF to launder a $450,000 payoff to Karin Stanford, his former mistress. The National Enquirer this week, quoting an anonymous former Jackson intimate, reported that figure as the amount Jackson paid Stanford to go away, much of it allegedly raised from a circle of rich cronies. I know the Enquirer's source, and can certify that this person is in a position to know what he's talking about. And this information dovetails precisely with what my own well-placed sources have been telling me for two months about the alleged deal. As my informants tell it, an "emergency" appeal went out in the fall of 1999 from a nationally prominent Jackson lawyer to a tiny coterie of wealthy African-Americans who had given generously to Rainbow/PUSH in the past. "Calls went out to the people Jesse likes to call 'The Partners,'" says one source. "They were asked to give, and they wanted a tax advantage. If they got it, at least some of the money they gave had to have gone through CEF." Again, there is no proof that these donations were passed through CEF, or were made at all. Stanford's lawyer specifically denied to a Post reporter that such a payment was made. Then again, if you had been given $450,000 under the table, some or all of it in cash, how likely would you be to go public with it? The tax man doesn't smile on that sort of thing. Maybe this allegation is untrue. But it's entirely believable, given how evasive and deceptive the Jackson camp has been about CEF's finances and Jackson's financial arrangements with his ex-mistress. Last week, to cite the latest of many examples, the Chicago Tribune broke the news that the civil-rights big had a friendly Chicago union local put Stanford on its payroll. The IRS should compare CEF's tax returns with those of Jesse's rich "Partners," to see if any of them contributed to the non-profit entity in the fall of 1999, and then deducted the donations from their personal and business filings. Only about 10 people qualify as Jesse's "Partners." Call me, IRS worker bees, and I'll give you the names. If The Partners all cut checks to CEF at the same time, and the organization can't account for the money, that would go a long way toward documenting that the tax-exempt CEF - the recipient of millions of dollars in corporate donations - is exactly what its critics have long charged: a Jesse Jackson slush fund. An IRS audit would clear the air, and let us know once and for all just how clean Jesse, Inc., is. So what's holding the tax cops back? For that matter, what is holding Jackson's corporate sugar daddies - Viacom, SBC Ameritech, Verizon, ATT, Citigroup and others - back from publicly disassociating themselves from his racket? And finally, what on earth is holding The New York Times back on this story? Last Monday, after having its rear end kicked up and down Broadway by The Post for two months on this story (to say nothing of the reporting by the Times's out-of-town rivals), the Grey Lady finally discovered that - lo! - some people are accusing Jesse Jackson of having done unpleasant things. So we got a Page One puff piece that depicted the roaming reverend as a down-but-not-out fighter. Jackson's publicist could hardly have been happier. The Times has stored its courage on the Jesse Jackson scandal in the same place it has hidden its courage on the Jesse Dirkhising story. God forbid it should have to report news seen as unflattering to favored liberal icons or sacrosanct minorities. Hate to break it to the neutered Jackson lapdogs on West 43rd, but it's only going to get worse for their favorite son. Rumors of a coming "60 Minutes II" bombshell are rife. And this latest round of damaging charges comes as Stanford is engaged in high-stakes negotiations to force Jackson to give their love child her proper due. Reliable sources say that when Jackson revealed his income in that sweaty Chicago press conference last month, a shocked Stanford realized he'd been less than forthcoming with her about his true worth. That's when she started pressing Jackson for a larger settlement. Other disaffected Jackson employees are said to be impressed by how Stanford is leveraging her experiences with Jackson, and are considering what to do with their own knowledge of the reverend's indiscretions. Hang on. This is about to get real interesting. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Week 10 schedule changes The dates and times for games during Week 10 have changed. Here are the new dates and times for the final week of regular season play this year: Saturday, April 7 - San Francisco @ Los Angeles, 8 p.m. ET (NBC) Saturday, April 7 - Memphis @ Las Vegas, 8 p.m. ET (NBC) Sunday, April 8 - New
[CTRL] WP: China Jets Intercept U.S. Navy Plane
-Caveat Lector- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/20010401/aponline150030_000.ht m China Jets Intercept U.S. Navy Plane By Joe McDonald Associated Press Writer Sunday, April 1, 2001; 3:00 p.m. EDT BEIJING A U.S. Navy surveillance plane collided with a Chinese fighter jet sent to intercept it over the South China Sea on Sunday and made an emergency landing in China. The Chinese government said the fighter crashed and its pilot was missing. "The U.S. side has total responsibility for this event," the Chinese Foreign Ministry said in a statement read late Sunday on state television. The collision happened Sunday morning off the southern Chinese island of Hainan, according to China and U.S. military spokesmen. The American EP-3 plane landed at a military airfield on Hainan. The status of the crew and control of the plane on the ground were unclear. None of the 24 crew members was injured, said Col. John Bratton, a spokesman for the U.S. Pacific Command in Hawaii. Chinese officials assured the United States the crew is safe, and American diplomats were going to Hainan to see them, said U.S. Ambassador Joseph Prueher. He said he had talked several times with U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell. "It appears also the Chinese have lost an aircraft and we're sorry that occurred," Prueher, a retired Navy admiral and commander of U.S. forces in the Pacific, said as he left his Embassy at 1:15 a.m. on Monday. President Bush was briefed on the episode Sunday morning, an administration official said. The U.S. plane was on a routine surveillance flight in international airspace when two Chinese fighters intercepted it, said Bratton. The EP-3 is an unarmed four-engine propeller-driven plane equipped to listen in on radio signals and monitor radar sites. China claims most of the South China Sea as its territorial waters a claim rejected by countries that use the vast expanse of ocean for shipping. The collision appeared to be an accident and the Chinese did not force the plane down, Bratton said. Cmdr. Rex Totty, another spokesman for the Pacific Command, said the Navy talked with the crew after they landed but had no contact since then. The incident comes at an uneasy time in U.S.-Chinese relations. The Bush administration has taken a more wary attitude toward Beijing, and China's recent detention of two scholars with links to the United States has further raised distrust. The collision coincided with news reports Sunday that U.S. military experts will recommend new weapons sales to Taiwan that could heighten tensions with Beijing. China regards Taiwan as a renegade province, and has protested American weapons sales to the island democracy. Nick Cook, an aviation expert with Jane's Defense Weekly in London, said the U.S. military routinely sends surveillance aircraft such as the EP-3 to monitor China's military. The EP-3 can pick up radio, radar, telephone, e-mail and fax traffic, Cook said. He said the plane is the size of a 150-seat commercial airliner, with most of its space taken up by monitoring equipment. The U.S. plane took off from Kadena Air Base in Okinawa, Japan, the U.S. military said. It is based at Whidbey Island Naval Air Station in Washington state and was flying with a crew of 22 Navy personnel and one each from the Air Force and the Marines. Bates Gill, a China expert at the Brookings Institution in Washington, said China was acting like any military power by trying to ward off "activities aimed at its airspace." The collision with the American plane is a "small victory" from China's perspective, Gill said. "You've sent the message about intruding in airspace. You forced it to land. You've got your hands on it." One Chinese academic claimed that in-flight encounters were common with U.S. surveillance aircraft flying along China's coastline listening to its military. "It's very regular for the American Navy to have their planes intruding into Chinese airspace," said Yan Xuetong, an expert in international studies at Tsinghua University in Beijing. "The Chinese then send up fighters and chase them out." Totty, the U.S. military spokesman, confirmed that interceptions are common but denied that U.S. planes routinely intrude on Chinese airspace. "Our aircraft routinely operate in international air space on reconnaissance missions and it is routine for Chinese aircraft to respond by intercepting and shadowing us," Totty said. The Chinese Foreign Ministry said the collision occurred at 9:07 a.m. some 62 miles southeast of Hainan, a large island off the southern Chinese coast. Totty said it happened about 50 nautical miles, or 58 statute miles, southeast of the island. Two Chinese fighters were sent up to track the plane as it approached Chinese airspace, said the statement. "The U.S. plane abruptly diverted toward the Chinese planes, and its head and left wing collided with one of the Chinese planes, causing the Chinese plane to crash," the statement said. It said
Re: [CTRL] Fw: NewsMax.com Commentmax Archives.htm
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 03/30/2001 10:12:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bill Clinton's regulation purporting to protect everyone's medical privacy may well be his crowning masterpiece of political legerdemain, the ultimate hoaxer's ultimate hoax. It was signed just before the disgraced president's second term of office mercifully expired. If allowed to go into effect it will take on a life of its own that extends years beyond his eight in power. Well my goodness, if Dubya can put his oil buddies into the AWR and allow arsenic in the drinking water, I guess he can take care of this threat to mankind. Now that we have a man in office who can be a role model for your children, why he can take care of a little matter like this. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] For what is Hillary Praying?
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 03/31/2001 10:17:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For what is Hillary Praying? By Chuck Baldwin March 30, 2001 A recent New York Post article entitled, "Holy Hill! Now she's praying with GOP," states, "[Hillary] Clinton has joined an informal, once-a-week Senate prayer breakfast, an event dominated by deeply religious Republican senators - the same type who in 1998 were disgusted by the Sexgate scandal, The Post has learned. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Australia to take SLA terrorists
-Caveat Lector- Get the latest news from http://leviathan.weblogs.com http://www.smh.com.au/news/0104/02/national/national6.html Instant Aussies: the warriors Israel shunned Bound for Australia ... Danny Nassif and his children on the Sea of Gallilee. By David Bernstein and Elana Shap Danny Nassif is 30, boyishly good-looking, with a tattoo of a parachute and a cross on his arm. He has been a combat soldier in the South Lebanese Army for as long as he can remember. He is sitting in an Israeli resort on the Sea of Galilee but he wants to be with his sister in Sydney. "My sister hoped I would be with her for Christmas," he says. "Now I'm hoping it will be Easter." But a furious argument in Australia's Arabic community has been triggered by the immigration of Mr Nassif and as many as 200 other members of the former South Lebanese Army - the Israeli-sponsored and trained militia that helped hold Israel's "security zone" in Southern Lebanon until last May. The New York-based Human Rights Watch and the B'tselem organisation in Israel have documented human rights abuses by the SLA against Palestinians and Lebanese citizens since 1980. About 3,000 Lebanese militiamen and their families fled to Israel after its hasty retreat from Lebanon. Most are afraid to return to Lebanon, where they fear they will be seen as traitors, while hostility from Israeli Arabs, who regard them as collaborators, is making it impossible to resettle them in Israel. In September Israel offered $US12,000 ($24,700) for an unmarried man and $US15,000 for a family if they went back to Lebanon. "They think we're stupid," Mr Nassif says. "Going back means going straight to jail, to torture and interrogation." Israel has asked other countries to take the refugees but, apart from Germany, which accepted 400, only Australia has agreed. Most of those who went to Germany are back in Israel, unable to tolerate the hatred from Palestinians and others there. "It would be like dropping a few SS troopers into postwar Carlton to bring 200 SLA killers [to Australia]," says Bilal Cleland, of the Islamic Council of Victoria. "They have a more dreadful human rights record than the Israeli Army." "It is strange that the Australian Government is bringing traitors to their own people, who have committed crimes against their own people, while keeping hundreds of refugees in detention camps," says Ali Kazak, head of the General Palestinian Delegation in Australia. But the editor of Sydney's The Middle East Herald, Sarkis Karam, says the refugees will be warmly welcomed by the vast majority of Australia's 160,000-plus Lebanese community. "This is a humanitarian issue, and Australia has a proud record in this area." A prominent Lebanese voice in Melbourne, Ray Werden, says community leaders made "very strong representations to [the Immigration Minister] Mr Ruddock to bring the SLA people here". He and Mr Karam concede that members of the SLA committed human rights abuses but say it was only a small minority - and none of them are coming to Australia. A spokesman for Mr Ruddock says there will be exhaustive security checks. "Anyone involved in atrocities or inappropriate activities will not get a visa.'' Because the screening would be so stringent, it would be some time before the first refugees arrived, he says. Only people with family already here are eligible. Last April Human Rights Watch found "grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions by the SLA, including torture and expulsion of civilians from the Israeli-occupied zone". Yet the group also documented how "Lebanese men and boys have been forced to serve in the SLA against their will. The families have been punished ... if they evaded or deserted from service in the SLA militia". Mr Nassif says no ideology motivated his decision to join the SLA - just the high unemployment in his war-ravaged country. Daoud Nadaf, 54, says he has no regrets about working for the Israelis, but he draws his finger across his neck to illustrate what he thinks Israeli Arabs would like to do to him. He just hopes Lebanese Australians do not make trouble for them when they arrive. He pulls out his address book to look up where his three brothers live in Sydney and where he hopes he will be with his wife, Nassima. "Bankstown," he says with a broad smile. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and
Re: [CTRL] For what is Hillary Praying?
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 03/31/2001 10:17:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For what is Hillary Praying? By Chuck Baldwin March 30, 2001 A recent New York Post article entitled, "Holy Hill! Now she's praying with GOP," states, "[Hillary] Clinton has joined an informal, once-a-week Senate prayer breakfast, an event dominated by deeply religious Republican senators - the same type who in 1998 were disgusted by the Sexgate scandal, The Post has learned. She's probably praying that the conservative hypocrites who make up the attendees at the Senate prayer breakfasts will actually begin to act and think like the Christ they profess to emulate. After all, if there's a breakthrough there, it might be possible for the rest of the country's conservative hypocrites to act and think in the same way. The thought of this country wrapped in the true spirit of forgiveness, caring for the afflicted and less fortunate, and practicing the golden rule (the one from the New Testament, not the Hurwitz version of "he who has the gold, rules") is so inspiring that even those of us who cannot attend such breakfasts, would do well to join Hillary in prayer. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] For what is Hillary Praying?
Quick, somebody save the flatware - In a message dated 03/31/2001 10:17:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time,[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For what is Hillary Praying?By Chuck BaldwinMarch 30, 2001A recent New York Post article entitled, "Holy Hill! Now she's praying withGOP," states, "[Hillary] Clinton has joined an informal, once-a-week Senateprayer breakfast, an event dominated by deeply religious Republicansenators - the same type who in 1998 were disgusted by the Sexgate scandal,The Post has learned. She's probably praying that the conservative hypocrites who make up theattendees at the Senate prayer breakfasts will actually begin to act andthink like the Christ they profess to emulate. After all, if there's abreakthrough there, it might be possible for the rest of the country'sconservative hypocrites to act and think in the same way. The thought ofthis country wrapped in the true spirit of forgiveness, caring for theafflicted and less fortunate, and practicing the golden rule (the one fromthe New Testament, not the Hurwitz version of "he who has the gold, rules")is so inspiring that even those of us who cannot attend such breakfasts,would do well to join Hillary in prayer. Prudy.
Re: [CTRL] NM: Chelsea Had 23 Secret Service Agents Protecting Her
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 04/01/2001 4:10:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "No fewer than twenty-three Secret Service agents, most of them chosen for their youthful appearance so they could blend in with the Stanford student body, zealously guarded Chelsea's privacy." When the first daughter spent her spring vacation in tony Aspen, Colo., this year, all six of her government supplied bodyguards were put up at condos that cost $300 to $500 a night, reported the New York Post Friday. This is very interesting, but do tell me about how the Bush family protects Dubya's daughters. Are they afforded cheaper protection somehow? Has Dubya said they do not need protection? Did their secret service protection all quit after they got his one daughter's boyfriend out of the slammer? Have they had death threats as Chelsea had or are they deeply loved by all who have heard of them? Did Rush Limbaugh discuss their ugliness on the air? Perhaps they are so beautiful the agents who protect them do so voluntarily, sending their salaries back, and even personally funding their own location expenses. I think that is so sweet. It's so much cheaper protecting Dubya's two daughters than it is Clinton's one. Perhaps a little business conference involving all the parties could lead to a tremendous savings for our Government. Roll on that conference. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NM: Hillary: Pardon Reform for Thee But Not for Me
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 04/01/2001 4:11:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The bill Mrs. Clinton is co-sponsoring along with Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) requires full disclosure of anyone lobbying for a presidential pardon, including donors of $5,000 or more to presidential libraries. Now I am beginning to doubt Hillary. Anyone who signs anything Arlen Specter puts out is suspect. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] For what is Hillary Praying?
And save the gold from Hillary the hypocrite. - Original Message - From: Foxter To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 7:00 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] For what is Hillary Praying? Quick, somebody save the flatware - In a message dated 03/31/2001 10:17:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time,[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For what is Hillary Praying?By Chuck BaldwinMarch 30, 2001A recent New York Post article entitled, "Holy Hill! Now she's praying withGOP," states, "[Hillary] Clinton has joined an informal, once-a-week Senateprayer breakfast, an event dominated by deeply religious Republicansenators - the same type who in 1998 were disgusted by the Sexgate scandal,The Post has learned. She's probably praying that the conservative hypocrites who make up theattendees at the Senate prayer breakfasts will actually begin to act andthink like the Christ they profess to emulate. After all, if there's abreakthrough there, it might be possible for the rest of the country'sconservative hypocrites to act and think in the same way. The thought ofthis country wrapped in the true spirit of forgiveness, caring for theafflicted and less fortunate, and practicing the golden rule (the one fromthe New Testament, not the Hurwitz version of "he who has the gold, rules")is so inspiring that even those of us who cannot attend such breakfasts,would do well to join Hillary in prayer. Prudy.
Re: [CTRL] NM: Hillary: Pardon Reform for Thee But Not for Me
-Caveat Lector- You mean you've been fooled all this time? Maybe there's hope for you yet. - Original Message - From: "Prudence L. Kuhn" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 7:26 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] NM: Hillary: Pardon Reform for Thee But Not for Me -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 04/01/2001 4:11:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The bill Mrs. Clinton is co-sponsoring along with Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) requires full disclosure of anyone lobbying for a presidential pardon, including donors of $5,000 or more to presidential libraries. Now I am beginning to doubt Hillary. Anyone who signs anything Arlen Specter puts out is suspect. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Creating a market for Star Wars
-Caveat Lector- the fat guy from The Dukes of Hazard? --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- I have NO idea what you are talking about. What is a boss hog, deliverance from what? On Sat, 31 Mar 2001 21:29:18 EST William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 3/31/01 7:08:26 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If all the stolen/illegal/corrupted/bought votes be gathered up ALL ACROSS the country, it would be seen that Bush did NOT lose the popular vote. But the intention is to not let the truth be known so that the loosers can keep placating their slaves by saying the same lies for Did you pass the remedial english classes you were undoubtedly required to take in order to graduate junior high? You read like Boss Hogg...cue the Deliverance soundtrack!!! It's clear that Bush lost the popular vote...get over it!! Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om = __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] For what is Hillary Praying?
-Caveat Lector- I imagine, Prudy, those prayer meetings which Hilliary has attended smell of hells fire and brimstone by now - for she brings her own particular stench with her as she traveled along the corridors which once graced the presense of a Jackie Kennedy .Jackie somehow belonged in the Rose Garden and with the Lilies of the Valley.she had beautiful children and I am glad she did not live to see the death of her only living son. So try as Hilliary may, you cannot make a silk purse out of an old sow's ear (no insult intended to the sow)..she can pray all she wants to whomever she wants, who really cares? . From Camelot to Dogpatch - this obnoxious woman does not pray, she preys For it was said Humpty Dumpty, sat on a wall, and Humpty Dumpty had a great fall.and alal the kings horses and all the kings men - couldn't put Humpty together again..not even James Carville could accomplish such a great feat so, ugly is as ugly does..Carville is now gone with the wind it seems? Saba A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Re: [FUTURE-CITIES] What is a Culture of Life?
On Mon, 2 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amen, Brother Poley.now I have to ask you this. You mentioned Ted Turner - this alcoholic bum is a front man for something other than the mob by now and he did sober up long enough to realize that he married Jane Fonda Thanks for the chuckle, Saba. Hanoi Jane was discovered to be Nightmare Alice? and unloaded that old bat. So Turner bought hundres of thousands of acres of landnot many buffalo then, but now his buffalo runneth over. If Turner would re-activate his "Turner Tomorrow Awards" from ca. 1990 and maybe even provide a site with this land we could find out what a "Culture of Life" is like. As I said before I think I get the bragging rights for that phrase, going back to Life Gazette as a tabloid in the 1980's. Now, even with a pope and a president "calling for" a Culture of Life, even with millions of religious and secular professionals on the planet who can describe cultures of the rain forest or antiquity with great alacrity, we see no designs for a Culture of Life. I guess popes and presidents don't have the "pull" they used to have. But really what it is about is that this world is solidly behind a Culture of Death. Institutions of Church and State are backing the Great Satan, whoever he might be at the moment. US Tele-evangelical idiots keep coming back to that shtick about THE Antichrist. But the world has been ruled by an Antichrist since Eden. And the same tele-evangelists are the servants of the Antichrist. Church and State serve THE Antichrist. So alas, the likelihood that a Culture of Life will be articulated and actualized by humankind is about zero. So we will now have abundance of buffalo and here begins a new slaughter - we have been prepared and conditioned for the use of Buffalo as food..now the horses - and this is where I go completely vegetarian I think nanotechnology will claim some remarkable successes during this century, if we get past 2012 on the Mayan Calendar. That date is so astonishingly aligned with the near-future forecasts for AI-robotics that I had to include it in the closing notes of "Machine Psychology". And a nice, brass Mayan Calendar hangs above my computer as I type. The SHAI's (Superhuman AI's) could be put to work on advancing nanotech after that. And the ultimate goal of nanotech is complete control over nanoassembly so you could have your nanoasemblers making pork chops, minus the pig, and so on. I think that will cause Hindu-Buddhist theologians to reconsider their vegetarianism. With cow, like killing goose who laid golden eggs.why a Culture of Life when government is pre-occupied with only a Culture of Death - murdering babies who take in some instancnes on breath - for their body parts now which is very profitable business? This is this NWOMurder, Inc. That sums it up well. But this has been a world run by a Cult of liars, murderers, thieves and perverts since Eden. Remember the story of Abel and Cain? It sets the stage for "history as we know it". The Mayans have it timed well, though. History as we know it ends ca. 2012. I keep appealing to the political powers that be to conduct a public inquiry on the AI-robotics state-of-the-art NOW and to get really tough with the expert witnesses (as tough as they have been with the cloning experts) to find out what AI is capable of now if all funding limits are removed. The annual planetary wealth generated is about 50 trillion $ so what is SHAI worth? SHAI coupled with SH-knowledge (via expert system programming) and SH-learning ability is the last invention homo sapiens will have to make. After that, all human research problems etc. will be given to robo sapiens instead of human scientists. The moral-ethical-legal problems have to do with matters like defining human-ness. After all, what can "human rights" mean if we don't have a good definition of "human"? And what about the rights of super-humans, ie "robo sapiens"? So I'll use this post as a backgrounder for a reply to Garry Breitkreuz, MP. FWP * Within 5 years the new CITIZENS' PARLIAMENT will hold the reins of power over the Victoria Parliament. POC will make it happen. See http://www.bcconnects.gov.bc.ca and http://www.ista.gov.bc.ca; 3/4 of BC CITIZENS in 2001 are Internet-connected * Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-~ Make good on the promise you made at graduation to keep in touch. Classmates.com has over 14 million registered high school alumni--chances are you'll find your friends! http://us.click.yahoo.com/03IJGA/DMUCAA/4ihDAA/K4NVlB/TM -_- If we were to design a city with surroundings according to a George Bush "Culture of Life" would it be the same as a Vatican "Culture of Life"? Can the Bush Administration even with the help of HUD or Vatican with the help of 1,000,000,000 Roman Catholics tell us what their Culture of Life
[CTRL] Puppet Show
-Caveat Lector- From }}Begin Decline of The West by George Szamuely Antiwar.com March 31, 2001 FOREIGN POLICY PUNCH JUDY SHOW Troglodytes vs. "Progressives" We are about to embark on a phony foreign policy debate, a Punch-and-Judy fight devoid of any meaning. In one corner, we will be told, is the Bush foreign policy team. Hellbent on reviving the Cold War, contemptuous of international agreements and the United Nations, it has little interest in worthy endeavors like "peace" in Northern Ireland, or adhering to the Kyoto Treaty on global warming or "peace" and "stability" in the Balkans. In the opposite corner will be the out-of-power Democratic Party foreign policy establishment and its media acolytes. It believes in international engagement, cooperation with Russia, acting as an "honest broker" between the Israelis and the Palestinians, and bringing "peace," "stability" and multiethnic harmony to the Balkans. So there it is: Isolationists versus Interventionists; Hawks versus Doves; Republican troglodytes versus Progressive Internationalists. What a wonderful debate! None of it, of course, has the slightest connection with reality. FRAUDULENT DEBATE This false and tendentious presentation of the issues serves the interests of our elites who want to suggest that the unseemly scramble for money and the perquisites of power the American political process in other words is really about sharply distinct approaches to the art of governance. The policies of the Democratic Party and the Republican Party foreign policy types are of course indistinguishable. By "peace" they mean the United States making war. By "stability" they mean US intervention to create instability. By "multiethnic harmony" they mean the United States sponsoring ethnic separatism and waging war against a hated ethnic group of the hour. By "honest broker" they mean the United States endorsing Israels program and urging its acceptance on the Palestinians. Democrats and Republicans are both committed to preserving US global hegemony in perpetuity. Yet here is Robin Wright writing breathlessly in the Los Angeles Times: "Americas foreign policy community is increasingly anxious about the Bush administrations abrupt, tough-guy approach to several of the key challenges facing the United States." Abrupt? The Bush team comes to power following an Administration that bombed more countries than any other. Evidently, the members of Americas august "foreign policy community" did not get anxious about the bombing of Bosnia, Yugoslavia, Sudan, Afghanistan and, of course, Iraq almost every day for ten years. Not one of these attacks had any basis in international law or UN Resolution. Yet the "foreign policy community" and our vaunted "internationalists" remained untroubled. Depleted uranium in the Balkans? No problem there. American soldiers patrolling the streets and hillsides of ever more countries? Nothing wrong with that. WE LOVE THE RUSSIANS So what is causing the agitation? Apparently, the Bush Administration is showing insufficient respect for Russia. "Gone are the Clinton administrations attempts to transform Russia into a modern state and its win-win view of the Washington-Moscow relationship," laments the New York Times. The Times takes it self-evident that it is reasonable for the United States to arrogate to itself the right to transform Russia into a "modern state" whatever "modern state" means. The Times also takes it as self-evident that the Russians too saw the Washington-Moscow relationship as one of "win-win." Was the looting of Russia by a bunch of gangsters in the name of a "privatization" policy pushed by Washington a case of "win-win"? Were the Washington-imposed IMF nostrums that reduced Russians to desperate poverty also "win-win"? Such issues are not to be raised and thus we maintain the image of a caring, cooperative Democratic Party establishment. According to Robin Wright, "The Clinton policy was based on the belief that post-communist Russia needed to be welcomed by the West and encouraged on the road to free markets and democracy. Good relations smoothed out crises over issues such as the Balkans, Clinton officials argued." James Hoge, editor of Foreign Affairs the in-house journal of the foreign policy establishment laments: "Why are they [the Bush Administration] so interested in saying to Russia that its mismanaging things, that its not that important anymore, that theyll take its views into account but not treat them all that seriously? Im mystified by it. What can they possibly gain from this kind of schoolyard bellicosity at this stage?" Former Clinton National Security Affairs Adviser worries: "Its extremely important that we remain engaged with [the Russians] It would be a mistake if we
Re: [CTRL] Creating a market for Star Wars
-Caveat Lector- He's suggesting a certain lack of sophistication, such as the country folk in the film 'Deliverance'. 'If someone starts playing a banjo I'm out of here!' On Mon, 2 Apr 2001 06:48:09 -0700 unseemlydogposture [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- the fat guy from The Dukes of Hazard? --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- I have NO idea what you are talking about. What is a boss hog, deliverance from what? On Sat, 31 Mar 2001 21:29:18 EST William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 3/31/01 7:08:26 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If all the stolen/illegal/corrupted/bought votes be gathered up ALL ACROSS the country, it would be seen that Bush did NOT lose the popular vote. But the intention is to not let the truth be known so that the loosers can keep placating their slaves by saying the same lies for Did you pass the remedial english classes you were undoubtedly required to take in order to graduate junior high? You read like Boss Hogg...cue the Deliverance soundtrack!!! It's clear that Bush lost the popular vote...get over it!! Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om = __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Night Lights from the Sun
-Caveat Lector- I was wondering about this. Saturday morning, about 2 am, I heard voices outside, and I went to investigate -- turns out the neighbors were arguing -- and I looked up, and the sky was blood red. I thought maybe I'd been spending too much time on the Internet, especially since right about then, the toilet flushed itself. I actually got scared, I was home alone that night wondering if this was a foreboding. Thanks Kris, for this article. Tenorlove replacing the guts in the toilet tank tomorrow It was probably just the a ghost using your toilet and playing tricks on you. If it gets unusually drafty when you are excremeditating, it's just the spirit world intruding on the waking world, nothing to worry about. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Once Unthinkable, Criticism Is Raised Against Greenspan
Well Joe Kennedy knew who the assassins were and how they held power..Ronald Reagan felt the impact of a would be assassins bullet for daring to challenge this system. Why was it unthinkable to criticize Greenspan? People afraid ADL will call them anti-semite So wonder why ADL put Christians, Militia and Moslems/Islam on their hate lists?The literature I have accumulated proves they had one thing in common, the groups so put on these Hate Hit Lists - they all had criticized the Federal Reserve System..Usury? What else is the interest being charged these days on some credit cards? So now I see why this Anti Defamatoin League exists, an off shoot of Bnai Brith - a MASONIC Jewish brotherhoodare they the assassins? Who lie in wait with their faces blackened - who pay for the bullets delivered by hired killers or the "nuts" that Meyer Lansky said to get to kill JFK? For the head - they must kill the head? Psalm 109 and 110 comes to mind here..boy what a group of assassins...ADL character assassination and now I know why ADL warned FBI and BATF and one Judge to stay home that day and they let the babies die..the innocents died that day.and look at ADL taking bribe money from Marc Rich? Jewish Mafia? saba April 2, 2001 Once Unthinkable, Criticism Is Raised Against Greenspan By RICHARD W. STEVENSON A Gloomy Quarter Ends, and Investors Look Ahead (March 31, 2001) Analysts Give Fed Rate Cuts Mixed Review (March 27, 2001) Market Place: Stock Investors Fighting the Fed in Second Round (March 21, 2001) Market Place: Awaiting Fed Rescue, Even as Fed Discourages Dependency (March 15, 2001) Join a Discussion on The Economy Join a Discussion on Interest Rates, Inflation and the Federal Reserve WASHINGTON, April 1 He raised interest rates too much last year, a sudden chorus of critics is saying, and he has not cut them enough this year. He was just another dot-com sucker, they say, taken in by the "new economy" claptrap even as the boom in the United States headed inexorably toward a bust. Like those former stock-option millionaires who are now back home cadging room and board from Mom and Dad, they suggest, he could use a dose of humility. With the decade-old economic expansion in danger, stock prices tumbling and the Federal Reserve no longer seeming omnipotent or omniscient, Alan Greenspan, who at 75 is in his 14th year as chairman of the central bank, is being second- guessed as never before. Under his leadership, the Fed is "behind the curve," Merrill Lynch recently told its clients. John H. Makin, an economist at the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative research organization here, called the Fed's current attitude "disconcertingly complacent." A survey of business economists found them less comfortable than at any time in years with the Fed's conduct of monetary policy. "The financial markets no longer trust him, and millions of Americans don't, either," the conservative commentator Bill O'Reilly said last week on the Fox News Channel. However fair or unfair the criticism and Mr. Greenspan still has plenty of admirers and defenders it gets at a broader question: To what degree can the country count on the Fed chairman and the central bank's control over interest rates to avert a recession? It was perhaps inevitable that he would be cut down a notch during a period when CNBC is charting the nation's diminished wealth minute by minute and President Bush is warning of trouble ahead especially since Mr. Greenspan's reputation as the infallible ringmaster of the economy was no doubt overblown when times were good. "The perception of him has slipped, although I'm not sure it's warranted," said Robert B. MacIntosh, chief economist at Eaton Vance, a mutual fund manager. "His job is not to give people 40 percent returns on their stock holdings. His job is to have the economy grow at a pace that does not let inflation get out of control." Mr. Greenspan's job is arguably more complicated than ever before. In an environment in which technology, financial markets and instant dissemination of information and analysis are combining to reshape the economy in ways that no one fully understands, some analysts think the Fed's ability to smooth out the business cycle may be diminished even if its monetary policy is flawless. If, as some economists say, the basic problem now is that companies overinvested in new equipment and technology, lower interest rates are not going to do much to get them investing again, at least not quickly. Under this view, a combination of business overinvestment, high levels of consumer debt, the falling stock market and huge trade deficits leave the nation at risk of a long downturn even if the Fed slashes rates more aggressively than it already has. Mr. Greenspan has never rejected such a possibility, and has signaled that he is aware of the dangers. But he has generally adopted a more optimistic outlook. And he
[CTRL] Gun Control Movement Changes Approach (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A1567-2001Mar27.html Gun Control Movement Changes Approach By Dan Eggen and Juliet Eilperin Washington Post Staff Writers Wednesday, March 28, 2001; Page A12 Twenty years after James Brady was shot in the attempted assassination of President Ronald Reagan, the modern gun control movement spearheaded by him and his wife, Sarah, is in retreat. Amid gloomy developments for advocates of gun restrictions, the Bradys' group, Handgun Control Inc., and its allies have lowered their expectations for Washington. They have turned instead to states and cities considered more receptive to stronger regulation of handguns. They are also scrambling to stop or rescind laws backed by the National Rifle Association and other pro-gun groups at the state and local levels, including those making it easier to carry concealed weapons. The shift comes less than a year after gun control advocates seemed to be gaining momentum with the heralded Million Mom March and a landmark agreement on safety standards with gunmaker Smith Wesson. But Republicans now in command at the White House and in Congress generally oppose new gun control measures. The agreement with Smith Wesson has effectively fallen apart in the face of boycotts by angry gun dealers and customers that have hurt the company. As for the Million Mom March, the organization just laid off 30 of its 35 employees. The group's protests on this Mother's Day will be centered in state capitals instead of on the Mall in Washington. "Everybody knows we're not likely to have big successes at the federal level," said Kristen Rand, legislative director of the Violence Policy Center, commonly viewed as one of the most aggressive anti-gun groups. "The lay of the land today is, if we don't lose anything on the federal level, we're in good shape, and hopefully we'll make some strides in some key states while we're at it.. We have to be realistic." The climate is a marked departure from the Clinton years, which brought a federal ban on assault weapons and enactment of background checks for handgun purchases as part of the long-sought Brady law. This year, however, the NRA and other gun lobbyists say they are confident they can again derail proposals for similar background checks at gun shows. In addition, the groups hope the Bush administration will support a nationwide ban on state and municipal lawsuits against gun manufacturers -- similar to legislation signed by Bush when he was governor of Texas. "Right now, the pendulum might have swung back in our direction," said James Jay Baker, chief lobbyist for the NRA. "The Democratic leadership decided they were going to make this a national issue, and they took it too far. . . . I'm hopeful that we will gain some ground." Sarah Brady, who will preside at a news conference today commemorating her group's victories over the last 20 years, said she hasn't given up on federal legislation. James Brady was critically wounded in the attempt on Reagan's life on March 30, 1981. "Given the leadership in the House and the Senate and the White House, it is not the easiest place right now in Washington," Sarah Brady said yesterday. "Certainly it's going to be an uphill battle. But we've had a lot of uphill battles, and that's generally when we've been able to do our very best." Some of the hottest battles are being waged in the states. New York recently adopted a gun tracking system and background checks at gun shows, and lawmakers in California, Illinois, Iowa, Rhode Island and other states are debating similar new regulations. The NRA is reviving a proposal in Missouri to allow easier access to concealed weapons permits, and gun control advocates are mounting a referendum drive in Michigan to undo a similar law there. The Center to Prevent Handgun Violence, an arm of Brady's group, launched a drive this month to persuade 20 states to follow the lead of the Massachusetts attorney general, who has enacted sweeping new restrictions on firearms under the auspices of the state's consumer protection laws. "There are many opportunities for us in the states," said Donna Dees-Thomases, founder of the Million Mom March. "If they want to throw up their hands in Congress, so be it. We've got other plans as well." The hard times can be traced to the aftermath of the April 1999 killings at Columbine High School, when gun control advocates did not get the federal restrictions they wanted. Conservative Democrats joined with GOP leaders to stop a House bill requiring a three-day background check on gun show sales and trigger locks for handguns. The NRA and several Republican candidates then seized on the issues in rural areas, using them as a way to undercut Democratic hopefuls in states such as Kentucky, Pennsylvania and West Virginia. Now both parties are wary of broaching the topic, according to a senior House Republican, because it can backfire among suburban voters the GOP is
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Night Lights from the Sun
-Caveat Lector- Red skies usally mean fair, good weather..only way I tell the weather if by the skies and my pine trees, for the weathermen no longer can accurtely predict the weather. Now, toilets flushing by themselves is spooky..my old friend was a Ghost Buster with Hans Holzer - read of their activities some time, for they are at Amityville.. We had a ghost and I say this - this lady in white did not scare me, but scared the hell out of my mother who believed in all that crap. So toilets flushing by themselves in my house, if I would be home alone, would be spooky. I think what it is, you have need of new mechanics in the back.check your water bill Wonder if HIlliary prays in the water closet too? A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Lawyers planning suit for African-American slave reparations
-Caveat Lector- Lawyers planning suit for African-American slave reparations (11/04/00)** (Associated Press) - "A powerful group of civil rights and class-action lawyers who have won billions of dollars in court is preparing a lawsuit seeking reparations for American blacks descended from slaves. "The project, called the Reparations Assessment Group, was confirmed by Harvard law professor Charles J. Ogletree and appears to be the most serious effort yet to get American blacks compensated for 244 years of legalized slavery. Lawsuits and legislation dating back to the mid-1800s have gone nowhere. "We will be seeking more than just monetary compensation,'' Ogletree said. "We want a change in America. We want full recognition and a remedy of how slavery stigmatized, raped, murdered and exploited millions of Africans through no fault of their own.'' "Ogletree said the group, which includes famed attorney Johnnie Cochran, first met in July and will hold its fourth meeting in Washington D.C. later this month. "This country has never dealt with slavery. It is America's nightmare. A political solution would be the most sensible but I don't have a lot of faith that's going to happen. So we need to look aggressively at the legal alternative,'' Ogletree said. Harvard's ultra-liberal Charles Ogletree indicated that the group's lawsuit will be directed against the federal government, state governments, corporations, and other institutions that allegedly have benefited from slave labor. "Ogletree said the Reparation Assessment Group includes attorneys [Johnnie] Cochran and Alexander J. Pires Jr., who won a $1 billion settlement for black farmers who claimed discrimination by the U.S. Department of Agriculture; Richard Scruggs, who won the $368.5 billion settlement for states against tobacco companies; Dennis C. Sweet III, who won a $400 million settlement in the "phen-fen'' diet drug case; and Willie E. Gary, who won a $500 million judgment against the Loewen Group Inc., the world's largest funeral home operators. "Also in the group is Randall Robinson, president of the TransAfrica Forum, a think tank specializing in African, Caribbean and African-American issues. Robinson recently wrote the book "The Debt: What America Owes to Blacks,'' which argues for reparations." Supporters of the reparations boondoggle cite recent, largely irrelevant, noncomparable cases where groups have been compensated in cash for discrimination by governments. For example, the Reparations Support Group cites the $20,000 award granted by the U.S. to the Japanese-Americans who were interred in concentration camps in the U.S. during World War II. Reparations advocates fail to acknowledge that the Japanese-Americans who received the $20,000 award were direct "still living" victims of the government's discrimination. This is not the case in the proposed "slavery reparations" debacle. Many generations -- and trillions of dollars in welfare payments and minority set-asides and racial preferences in the U.S. -- have already been awarded to "blacks" in this country. Many citizens and politicians also argue that it isn't fair for taxpayers and corporations who never owned slaves to be burdened with possible multibillion dollar settlements. (AP, via FoxNews, based on the Associated Press story 11/04/00 by Paul Shepard) [Last known link http://foxnews.com/national/1104/d_ap_1104_65.sml ] The Coming Reparations Boondoggle (0619/00) Despite the lunacy of the idea, reparations are on the way. "Should we pay money damages -- reparations for slavery -- to today's African-Americans? At first glance, such a massive redistribution of wealth seems like nothing more than any other crackpot scheme that will go nowhere -- but this movement is steadily gaining ground. The cities of Detroit, Cleveland, and Dallas have officially endorsed slavery restitution, and the Chicago City Council last month passed a resolution urging Congress to push forward with reparations. "... Detroit Rep. John Conyers has vowed that reparations will be the first legislative item he will pursue if Democrats regain the House this fall. Conyers, who has introduced reparations bills every year since 1989, is the ranking member on Judiciary and will become its Chairman if the elections go south for the GOP. "Grassroots groups are also quickly organizing across the country. The National Coalition of Blacks for Reparations in America (N'COBRA), a lobbying umbrella group with dozens of local chapters, has drafted a blueprint for federal "down payments" on reparations that they plan to move through the courts and congressional legislation. [In this paragraph, author Brett M. Decker uses sarcasm in referring to the 'racist nature of criminal justice' in this country.] "Because black criminality is the fruit of a white conspiracy throughout history to keep persons of color down, Lewis's group demands the release of all "political prisoners" jailed for activities while members of the
[CTRL] Ritual Murders Keyed to Bible
So I reproduce this 110th psalm for it is a very important psalmnote this "dew of thy youth" bit - Estee Lauder used to have a product called Youth Due and there is one guy in the bible a King called Xeres - who was noted for "copying letters".Xerox? Now when the hit was ordered on JFK and the Chairman of the Board said "find some nut to do it", for RFK was considered the tail and they wanted the head..all so timed, and Walter Lippman with his remark "surely they democrats will be punished and their offices taken away" straight out of the ritual murder of the 109th psalm, the vicous vendetta whereby an entire line must be executed like the Czar of Russia and is family, and JFK and his brothers even to little John Johnwipe out the line but blot their names out of the book? No way but there are those who have tried. So note making enemies footstools...but the wounding of many heads over the country with JFK and RFK they aimed for the head..and with Reagan the guy must have been a bad shot but Reagan was never the same after that. Catholics have long held the belief that the bible should never be read without proper instructionyou get into Ezra and count up how much gold was floating about, and one almost sees the US Treasury Department and Federal Reserve keeping track of gold aorund the world.maybe that is why Mel Fischer's ship was sunk - the guy with the sunken treasure off Key West? Some of Fischer's gold was dental gold? Remember now Kissinger and Albrights family got away with a lot of loot? Saba Bible, King James. Psalms, from The holy Bible, King James version Electronic Text Center, University of Virginia Library | Table of Contents for this work | | All on-line databases | Etext Center Homepage | "Psalm" 110 Psalms, psalm 110 1: The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. 2: The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies. 3: Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth. 4: The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek. 5: The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath. 6: He shall judge among the heathen, he shall fill the places with the dead bodies; he shall wound the heads over many countries. [SABA NOTE: Many believe Abraham Lincoln was shot by Rothschild agent? Add up, for the assassin was grandson of one of the founders of the Illuminati-Hells Fire Club in the 1700 period oand I have their engravings??? ] 7: He shall drink of the brook in the way: therefore shall he lift up the head. http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/etcbin/toccer-new2?id=KjvPsal.sgmimages=images/modengdata=/texts/english/modeng/parsedtag=publicpart=110division=div2
[CTRL] Is Chomsky A Fraud?
-Caveat Lector-
http://www.geocities.com/mdmorrissey/rechom1.htm
Rethinking Chomsky
Rethinking Camelot (Boston: South End Press, 1993) is
Noam Chomsky's worst book. I don't think it merits a
detailed review, but we should be clear about the
stand that "America's leading intellectual dissident,"
as he is often called, has taken on the assassination.
It is not significantly different from that of the
Warren Commission or the majority of Establishment
journalists and government apologists, and
diametrically opposed to the view "widely held in the
grassroots movements and among left intellectuals" (p.
37) and in fact to the view of the majority of the
population.
For Chomsky, the only theories of the assassination
"of any general interest are those that assume a
massive cover-up, and a high-level conspiracy that
required that operation." These he rejects out of hand
because "There is not a phrase in the voluminous
internal record hinting at any thought of such a
notion," and because the cover-up "would have to
involve not only much of the government and the media,
but a good part of the historical, scientific, and
medical professions. An achievement so immense would
be utterly without precedent or even remote analogue."
These arguments can be as glibly dismissed as Chomsky
presents them. It is simply foolish to expect the
conspirators to have left a paper trail, much less in
the "internal record," or that part of it that has
become public. It is equally foolish to confuse the
notion of conspiracy and cover-up with the much more
broadly applicable phenomenon of "manufacturing
consent," to use Chomsky's own expression. You don't
have to be a liar to believe or accept or perpetuate
lies. This is exactly what Chomsky himself and Edward
Herman say about the media, and it applies to the
"historical, scientific, and medical professions" as
well:
Most biased choices in the media arise from the
preselection of right-thinking people, internalized
preconceptions, and the adaptation of personnel to the
constraints of ownership, organization, market, and
political power. Censorship is largely
self-censorship, by reporters and commentators who
adjust to the realities of source and media
organizational requirements and by people at higher
levels within media organizations who are chosen to
implement, and have usually internalized, the
constraints imposed by proprietary and other market
and governmental centers of power (Manufacturing
Consent, NY: Pantheon, 1988, p. xii).
Nevertheless, Chomsky admits that a "high-level
conspiracy" theory makes sense if "coupled with the
thesis that JFK was undertaking radical policy
changes, or perceived to be by policy insiders."
Rethinking Camelot is devoted to refuting this thesis.
I've addressed this subject before ("Chomsky on JFK
and Vietnam," The Third Decade, Vol. 9, No. 6, pp.
8-10), so I won't repeat myself. But two things should
be clear. First, Chomsky has loaded the deck. The
theory that Kennedy was secretly planning to withdraw
from Vietnam regardless of how the military situation
developed is not the only one that supports a
conspiracy view of the assassination. This is John
Newman's highly speculative argument in JFK and
Vietnam (NY: Warner Books, 1992), which is so easy to
refute that one wonders if it was not created for this
purpose. Why else would the CIA, in the form of
ex-Director Colby, praise the work of Newman, an Army
intelligence officer, as "brilliant" and "meticulously
researched" (jacket blurb)? In any case, accepting the
fact that we cannot know what JFK's secret intentions
were or what he would have done, the fact that he was
planning to withdraw by the end of 1965 is
irrefutable.
Secondly, it should be clear that Chomsky's view of
the relation, that is, non-relation, of the
assassination to subsequent policy changes is
essentially the same as Arthur Schlesinger's. They are
both coincidence theorists. Schlesinger says Johnson
reversed the withdrawal plan on Nov. 26 with NSAM 273,
but the idea that this had anything to do with the
assassination "is reckless, paranoid, really
despicable fantasy, reminiscent of the wilder
accusations of Joe McCarthy" (Wall Street Journal,
1/10/92). The assassination and the policy reversal,
in other words, were coincidences.
I suspect Chomsky knows he would appear foolishly
naive if he presented his position this way, so he has
constructed a tortured and sophistic argument that
"there was no policy reversal" in the first place,
which, if true, would obviate the question of its
relation to the assassination. A neat trick if you can
pull it off, and Chomsky gives it a good try, but in
the end he fails. In fact, he undermines his own
position by making it even clearer than it has been
that the reversal of the assessment of the military
situation in Vietnam, which caused the reversal of the
withdrawal policy, occurred very shortly after the
assassination, and that the source of this new
appraisal was the intelligence
Re: [CTRL] Anyone Have Any Articles on the Federal Reserve?
Title: RE: [CTRL] Anyone Have Any Articles on the Federal Reserve? I'll check out that book... Thanks for the information Michael. Jamie -Original Message- From: michael pugliese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 9:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Anyone Have Any Articles on the Federal Reserve? -Caveat Lector- Eustace Mullins? PUH-LEEZE! Heard him interviewed by Christian Identity loon, Rev. Jim Wickstrom on the Posse Comitatus radio show back around fall of '99. Blathered on about thousands of Christian children being kidnapped by Jews here in the U.S. and killed after Satanic rituals like drinking their blood. Wanna read something factual on the Federal Reserve read, Secrets of the Temple, by William Greider, the writer for Rolling Stone that did the famous interview with David Stockman early in the Gippers first term in infamy. Michael Pugliese A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.htmlArchives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [Spy News] Hainan incident: Foreign and domestic entanglements (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Hainan incident: Foreign and domestic entanglements http://atimes.com/editor/CD03Ba01.html South China Sea near Hainan Island, Sunday morning, approximately 9:10 am local time. Chinese version: An American spy plane is shadowed by two fighter jets. The American plane maneuvers abruptly and rams and downs one of the fighters. The US plane makes an unauthorized landing at Hainan Island's Lingzhui military airfield. "The US side has total responsibility for this event," the Chinese Foreign Ministry said in a statement, adding that it had made a "serious" protest and that, "The US plane abruptly diverted toward the Chinese planes, and its head and left wing collided with one of the Chinese planes, causing the Chinese plane to crash." US version: An Okinawa-based US Navy EP-3 electronic surveillance plane (crew of 24) on a routine mission in international airspace is shadowed by two Chinese F-8 fighters, is bumped accidentally by one of the Chinese fighters, sustains damage to its nose cone and left wing and makes an emergency landing at Lingzhui. "It's pretty obvious who bumped who," said Admiral Dennis Blair, head of the US Pacific Command in Hawaii. He told reporters that the Chinese fighters, similar to US F-16s, fly much faster and have more maneuverability than the EP-3, which is about the size of a Boeing 737 and basically flies in a straight path. Well, make up your own mind who's telling the truth. But if the Chinese Foreign Ministry is, it doesn't exactly speak well for the skillls of Chinese fighter pilots. The EP-3 is a lumbering, unarmed four-engine propeller-driven plane. For the American pilot to deliberately have downed the F-8 fighter would either be quite a feat or speak volumes about the PLA air arm's military preparedness. Watch out for a PLA version of the event "correcting" the Foreign Ministry's. For any number of reasons, the Hainan incident comes at a most inopportune time. Chinese Vice Premier Qian Qichen has just concluded a Washington visit and met there with US President George W Bush. While the two leaders agreed to disagree on a variety of issues, both sides viewed the outcome as basically positive. But there are several present irritants in US-China relations - the arrest and detention of two US-related professors by mainland authorities, the ongoing 10-day Taiwan visit of the Dalai Lama, and most importantly, the possible sale of advanced US weapons systems to Taiwan - which in combination could lead to a serious deterioration in relations if the Hainan incident is mishandled by either side. The potential for such mishandling is real enough based on respective domestic political considerations. On the Chinese side, President Jiang Zemin, Premier Zhu Rongji, and Vice Premier Qian Qichen must exercise caution so as not to hand hardliners the argument that they are soft on the American aggressors - charges which could gain popular appeal and threaten orderly leadership transition. As Francesco Sisci writes in the accompanying analysis, the Beijing leaders cleverly appear to be dealing with the problem by declaring victory in Hainan: The US intruder plane was forced down. On the US side, anti-China hardliners will push for the speediest return of the American crew and plane and take anything else as an argument for pushing for maximum weapons systems deliveries to Taiwan, accompanied by shrill human rights violations charges. In light of these domestic political factors, speedy resolution of the Hainan incident would appear to be in the best interest of both sides. To all appearances, President Bush prior to the incident was aiming for a compromise on weapons sales to Taiwan: some advanced systems would be sold, but sale of the Aegis radar system would be postponed. From Beijing's standpoint, perfunctory protests aside, that would have been an acceptable deal. More broadly, neither Bush nor Jiang need foreign entanglements at this stage in their presidencies. Bush wants to concentrate on reinvigorating the US economy as without that he would be perceived as having failed in his key self-appointed task and be seen as a weak president with commensurate lack of clout in foreign affairs. Jiang as well has economic priorities and does not want his legacy threatened by a no-win confrontation with the US. So, is early resolution of the Hainan affair in sight? As the incident itself demonstrates, accidents happen. Further hiccups should not be ruled out. But both sides' interests point toward deliberate efforts at damage control. ((c)2001 Asia Times Online Co, Ltd. All rights reserved. Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] for information on our sales and syndication policies.) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-~ Make good on the promise you made at graduation to keep in touch. Classmates.com has over 14 million registered high school alumni--chances are you'll find your friends!
Re: [CTRL] NYP: TIME TO AUDIT JACKSON INC.
-Caveat Lector- If Jackson were a real Christian, he'd have been arrested or incinerated by now... Tenorlove __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Bible Club Returns to High School Campus (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Bible Club Returns to High School Campus by Scott Hogenson 02 Apr, 2001 (CNSNews.com) - A high school Bible club in Michigan has resumed holding meetings on school grounds and may need a bigger meeting room because of its growing membership following a federal court action. The Connect for Christ Bible Club may now hold after school meetings using Northville High School facilities following a consent judgment signed by U.S. District Court Judge Arthur J. Tarnow. The club had been banned from school grounds since April 2000. According to the court order, the school must allow the Bible club to have the same access to school facilities as other non-curriculum clubs at the school. ... Go to http://www.CNSNEWS.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=\Culture\archive\200104\CUL20010402a.html to view the full story. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] In Support of Reparations for African-Americans (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In Support of Reparations for African-Americans by Alex Wolf 02 Apr, 2001 Like David Horowitz, I am Jewish, white and politically conservative. However, I espouse a slightly different view on the slave reparations issue that I feel should be included in the overall debate. I found Mr. Horowitz... Go to http://www.CNSNEWS.com/ViewCommentary.asp?Page=\Commentary\archive\200104\COM20010402f.html to view the full story. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Chicken threatens teacher
-Caveat Lector- 1ST GRADER RUNS AFOWL OF 'ZERO TOLERANCE' JONESBORO, AR - When eight-year-old Christopher Kissinger pointed a chicken strip at another student in the cafeteria of the South Elementary School while saying "pow, pow, pow," a nearby teacher thought the "threat" was meant for her. Christopher was serving a detention for talking when the incident occurred, and he received an added punishment of three-days' suspension from school. Read full article: http://www.eagleforum.org/educate/2001/mar01/zero-tolerance.shtml A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Is Chomsky A Fraud?
-Caveat Lector-
http://www.geocities.com/mdmorrissey/rechom1.htm
Rethinking Chomsky
Rethinking Camelot (Boston: South End Press, 1993) is
Noam Chomsky's worst book. I don't think it merits a
detailed review, but we should be clear about the
stand that "America's leading intellectual dissident,"
as he is often called, has taken on the assassination.
It is not significantly different from that of the
Warren Commission or the majority of Establishment
journalists and government apologists, and
diametrically opposed to the view "widely held in the
grassroots movements and among left intellectuals" (p.
37) and in fact to the view of the majority of the
population.
For Chomsky, the only theories of the assassination
"of any general interest are those that assume a
massive cover-up, and a high-level conspiracy that
required that operation." These he rejects out of hand
because "There is not a phrase in the voluminous
internal record hinting at any thought of such a
notion," and because the cover-up "would have to
involve not only much of the government and the media,
but a good part of the historical, scientific, and
medical professions. An achievement so immense would
be utterly without precedent or even remote analogue."
These arguments can be as glibly dismissed as Chomsky
presents them. It is simply foolish to expect the
conspirators to have left a paper trail, much less in
the "internal record," or that part of it that has
become public. It is equally foolish to confuse the
notion of conspiracy and cover-up with the much more
broadly applicable phenomenon of "manufacturing
consent," to use Chomsky's own expression. You don't
have to be a liar to believe or accept or perpetuate
lies. This is exactly what Chomsky himself and Edward
Herman say about the media, and it applies to the
"historical, scientific, and medical professions" as
well:
Most biased choices in the media arise from the
preselection of right-thinking people, internalized
preconceptions, and the adaptation of personnel to the
constraints of ownership, organization, market, and
political power. Censorship is largely
self-censorship, by reporters and commentators who
adjust to the realities of source and media
organizational requirements and by people at higher
levels within media organizations who are chosen to
implement, and have usually internalized, the
constraints imposed by proprietary and other market
and governmental centers of power (Manufacturing
Consent, NY: Pantheon, 1988, p. xii).
Nevertheless, Chomsky admits that a "high-level
conspiracy" theory makes sense if "coupled with the
thesis that JFK was undertaking radical policy
changes, or perceived to be by policy insiders."
Rethinking Camelot is devoted to refuting this thesis.
I've addressed this subject before ("Chomsky on JFK
and Vietnam," The Third Decade, Vol. 9, No. 6, pp.
8-10), so I won't repeat myself. But two things should
be clear. First, Chomsky has loaded the deck. The
theory that Kennedy was secretly planning to withdraw
from Vietnam regardless of how the military situation
developed is not the only one that supports a
conspiracy view of the assassination. This is John
Newman's highly speculative argument in JFK and
Vietnam (NY: Warner Books, 1992), which is so easy to
refute that one wonders if it was not created for this
purpose. Why else would the CIA, in the form of
ex-Director Colby, praise the work of Newman, an Army
intelligence officer, as "brilliant" and "meticulously
researched" (jacket blurb)? In any case, accepting the
fact that we cannot know what JFK's secret intentions
were or what he would have done, the fact that he was
planning to withdraw by the end of 1965 is
irrefutable.
Secondly, it should be clear that Chomsky's view of
the relation, that is, non-relation, of the
assassination to subsequent policy changes is
essentially the same as Arthur Schlesinger's. They are
both coincidence theorists. Schlesinger says Johnson
reversed the withdrawal plan on Nov. 26 with NSAM 273,
but the idea that this had anything to do with the
assassination "is reckless, paranoid, really
despicable fantasy, reminiscent of the wilder
accusations of Joe McCarthy" (Wall Street Journal,
1/10/92). The assassination and the policy reversal,
in other words, were coincidences.
I suspect Chomsky knows he would appear foolishly
naive if he presented his position this way, so he has
constructed a tortured and sophistic argument that
"there was no policy reversal" in the first place,
which, if true, would obviate the question of its
relation to the assassination. A neat trick if you can
pull it off, and Chomsky gives it a good try, but in
the end he fails. In fact, he undermines his own
position by making it even clearer than it has been
that the reversal of the assessment of the military
situation in Vietnam, which caused the reversal of the
withdrawal policy, occurred very shortly after the
assassination, and that the source of this new
appraisal was the intelligence
Re: [CTRL] Chicken threatens teacher
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 4/2/01 1:09:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JONESBORO, AR - When eight-year-old Christopher Kissinger pointed a chicken strip at another student in the cafeteria of the South Elementary School while saying "pow, pow, pow," a nearby teacher thought the "threat" was meant for her. This would be a non issue if there were back ground checks, and three day waiting periods for people eating chicken strips. Bill H A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Chicken threatens teacher
Title: RE: [CTRL] Chicken threatens teacher Or if adults weren't ignorant to the fact that an 8 year wasn't making a threat and was doing what most other 8 year old boys do at that age Play. -Original Message- From: Bill Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 3:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Chicken threatens teacher -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 4/2/01 1:09:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JONESBORO, AR - When eight-year-old Christopher Kissinger pointed a chicken strip at another student in the cafeteria of the South Elementary School while saying pow, pow, pow, a nearby teacher thought the threat was meant for her. This would be a non issue if there were back ground checks, and three day waiting periods for people eating chicken strips. Bill H A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.htmlArchives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [Fwd: Doctors to Spy on Patients' Gun Ownership]
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:20:05 -0500 Subject: Doctors to Spy on Patients' Gun Ownership From: "Helen Faria" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reprinted from NewsMax.com Doctors to Spy on Patients' Gun Ownership Miguel A. Faria, MD Monday, March 26, 2001 Just when you thought talking to your doctor or psychiatrist was one of the most private and confidential things you could do ... think again. (1) In what it describes as an effort to curb handgun violence, a group called Doctors Against Handgun Injury is calling for sweeping changes in doctor-patient confidentiality that would allow doctors, including psychiatrists, to pry about their patients' gun ownership. In the past, the medical community fought strenuously against any invasion by government or others into the confidentiality of patient records and information. For example, the American Psychiatric Association (APA) had, in the past and for obvious reasons, been a bulwark in the defense of patient privacy and medical record confidentiality. (2) Suddenly, events have taken a nefarious course. The APA has now regrettably joined Doctors Against Handgun Injury, a gun prohibitionist coalition. This coalition - which also includes the American Medical Association (AMA) and, not surprisingly, the strident American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) and 10 other medical organizations reportedly comprising 600,000 doctors - is calling for a variety of patient privacy-invading measures in the name of gun safety. Don't be fooled by their innocuous-sounding name. In a revealing article published in the New York Observer on March 15, 2001, and through information that has come to our attention, Doctors Against Handgun Injury plan to announce a new campaign to push for increasingly more stringent gun control measures and "will engage in what it calls 'upstream intervention' - that is, using regular checkups to ask patients about firearm ownership and storage in their homes." "To promote public safety, health professionals and health systems should ask about firearm ownership when taking a medical history or engaging in preventive counseling," the report states. "Patients should be provided with information about the risks of having a firearm in the home, as well as methods to reduce the risk, should they continue to choose to keep them." (3) According to the New York Observer article, "The group is also calling for more conventional measures, such as mandatory background checks of purchasers at gun shows, limits on the number of guns that can be purchased by individuals and a waiting period for all gun buyers. This is the first time that such a large group of doctors has taken a position on gun control." This is a regrettable and ill-conceived effort. This new policy, if implemented by physicians, particularly by psychiatrists, constitutes a breach in medical ethics, a boundary violation in reference to abuse of the patient-doctor relationship, and an egregious invasion of privacy. A boundary violation takes place when a physician breaches the patient's trust and uses his authority to advance a political agenda. As Dr. Timothy Wheeler explained in an article in the Medical Sentinel, "A patient who seeks medical or psychiatric treatment is often in a uniquely dependent, anxious, vulnerable, and exploitable state. "In seeking help, patients assume positions of relative powerlessness in which they expose their dignity, and reveal intimacies of body or mind, or both. Thus, compromised, the patient relies heavily on the physician to act only in the patient's interest and not the physician's." (4) From time immemorial, patient privacy and confidentiality have been ethical concepts that, up until now, were fundamental to all physicians and to the patient-doctor relationship. The Oath of Hippocrates, in fact, states: "Whatever, in connection with my professional practice or not in connection with it, I may see or hear in the lives of men, I will not divulge, as reckoning that all such should be kept secret. While I continue to keep this oath unviolated, may it be granted to me to enjoy life and the practice of the art, respected by all men at all times, but should I trespass and violate this oath, may the reverse be my lot." For psychiatrists, who of necessity should be able to obtain very personal and confidential information for their patients' mental health evaluation and treatment, trust is paramount. Some psychiatrists, again with good reason, have claimed in their medical practices a patient-doctor privilege similar to the attorney-client privilege that lawyers legally enjoy in their profession and which is a notch above what physicians now possess in patient-doctor confidentiality. Thus, this push by organized medicine, including the APA, should be received by patients with great concern and trepidation. With this new incursion into gun politics by the medical profession, it's easy to see why patients
Re: [CTRL] Annie McKenna's Presentation on ra/mc and scrapbook therapy
-Caveat Lector- Dear List, Please find information about this below. Sincerely, Neil Annie McKenna's S.M.A.R.T. Presentation 2000, Scrapbook Therapy with pictures, is at http://www.paperclipdolls.com/html/SMART2000.html This may be very triggering for survivors, so please use caution at this site. This site includes pictures of alleged perpetrators. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [Fwd: Censorship Down Under]
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 14:21:40 +1000 From: Danny Yee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Matthew Gaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: What's new down Under What's the most pressing free speech issue in AU today? The lunacy being proposed by the South Australian state government - basically, criminal legislation covering what people publish online. Details are at http://www.efa.org.au/Campaigns/sabill.html But free speech is suffering the death by a thousand cuts, and we have no Constitution to unify opposition to it. If you look at my list at http://danny.oz.au/ you'll see we have dozens of organisations and governments involved in censorship - HREOC (which has it in for "hate speech"), the ABA (content regulation of ISPs), mandatory classification and labelling of publications/films/games (OFLC), direct censorship (six state governments), censorship through government coercion of business umbrella organisations (IIA and censorware, ARIA and censorship of music), censorship of expert opinion (ASIC and financial advice), and probably some I don't even know about. EFA http://www.efa.org.au/ is the most active free speech organisation. Watch on Censorship http://www.watchoncensorship.asn.au/ is active on film censorship. And there are civil liberties committees in each state, but they are irregularly active. We lack organisations with the clout and resources of the ACLU and EFF. Danny. ### Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:01:14 +1000 From: Danny Yee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Matthew Gaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: What's new down Under The latest is the attempt to ban online gambling, but I assume you've heard about that. Morons. We've got a really wonderful minister for communications - http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/17941.html is spot on. Danny. ** Subscribe to Freematt's Alerts: Pro-Individual Rights Issues Send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words subscribe FA on the subject line. List is private and moderated (7-30 messages per week) Matthew Gaylor, 2175 Bayfield Drive, Columbus, OH 43229 (614) 313-5722 ICQ: 106212065 Archived at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fa/ **
[CTRL] [Fwd: Some Time To Kill: In Waiting Periods, Gun Buyers Are At MercyOf Criminals,]
"Some Time To Kill: In Waiting Periods, Gun Buyers Are At Mercy Of Criminals," by John R. Lott Jr., from the Investor's Business Daily California's government -- which has demonstrated its obvious prowess as a regulator of energy -- is searching for another vital product to regulate. The California Legislature launched hearings this week on the licensing of guns. California's would-be regulators might want to examine the experiences with gun licensing in places like Canada and Hawaii before they enact any ambitious and reckless new laws. Canadians are a law-abiding lot. But as of Jan. 1, millions suddenly became criminals, thanks to C-68, Canada's gun licensing law, which was passed back in 1995. The law ordered Canadians to obtain a license and register their guns within five years. Officially, the Canadian Department of Justice now claims that there are only 2.5 million gun owners, a 31% drop from their figure just a couple of years ago. This means that millions of gun owners are now operating outside of Canadian law, an assumption confirmed by press accounts that report internal Canadian Justice Department documents identifying 5 to 7 million gun owners and by academic and private surveys which indicate possibly more gun owners. The 2.5 million estimate, some academics argue, is surprisingly similar to the Canadian Wildlife Service's estimate for the number of people hunting each year. Getting the government to release information on the costs of licensing and registration is like cracking the black ops budgets in the U.S. Defense Department. The numbers are even refused to many members of Parliament. "Inside sources" have told members of Parliament that, excluding any costs borne by the federal police (the Royal Canadian Mounties) or in Quebec, $ 265 million (Canadian dollars) will be spent by the federal Canadian Firearms Centre this year. To put it another way, just this limited accounting number corresponds to 5% of all police expenditures in Canada. Just as with unfunded mandates in the U.S., the vast majority of gun licensing costs in Canada are borne by the provinces and local governments. For example, the attorney general's office of Alberta has complained that the law "is an administrative mess and it is very costly, and it is using money that would be better used really fighting crime." Canada's licensing laws are notable for their extremely intrusive character: Applicants must report if they've experienced a divorce, breakdown of a significant relationship, job loss or bankruptcy in the past two years. Despite the objections of Canada's Privacy Commissioner that files are filled with "unsubstantiated hearsay and incorrect information," the government questions people like ex-spouses, possibly bitter over divorces, to assess the gun licensee's fitness for a license. These are real problems. But the largest one pertains to the impact these rules will have on violent crime. We look with interest to see how Canada's crime rate changes this year. In the meantime, we can assume from America's experience with similar gun restrictions that Canada is in for some bad news. Consider what is happening in Hawaii. According to gun licensing theory, if a gun is left at the scene of the crime, licensing and registration would allow a gun to be traced back to its owner. But police have spent tens of thousands of man-hours administering these laws in Hawaii (the one state with both rules), and there has not been even a single case where police claim licensing and registration have been instrumental in identifying the criminal. The reasons for this are simple. First, criminals very rarely leave their guns at the scene of the crime. Second, would-be criminals virtually never get licenses or register their weapons. Gun licensing advocates ask, might licensing at least have allowed even more comprehensive background checks and thus kept criminals from getting guns in the first place? Unfortunately for these gun control advocates, there is not a single academic study that finds that background checks reduce violent crime. Instead, licensing prevents people who are being stalked or threatened from quickly obtaining a gun for protection. When added to California's 14-day waiting period, the processing time for a license will delay access to a gun by at least a month. While research shows that even short waiting periods increase rape rates, waiting periods longer than 10 days increase all categories of violent crime. Canadians will undoubtedly take some solace in press accounts noting that police won't "come knocking at the door any time soon." But as distracted police spend tens of thousands of hours trying to enforce the licensing, the doors of Canadians may be knocked down by gun-wielding criminals who pay no mind to the regulatory fads of political correctness. Are Californians paying attention? John R. Lott Jr. is a senior research scholar at the Yale University Law
Re: [CTRL] Cheryl Hersha: Response to U. Dowbenko's review of Secret Weapons.
-Caveat Lector- Dear List, This is forwarded with permission of the author. Sincerely, Neil Brick Please note : I am forwarding this so that one of the authors has a chance to respond to the original review. My forwarding this does not necessarily constitute my endorsement of it. Response to: "Secret Weapons: Whitewashing CIA Mind Control Atrocities," by Uri Dowbenko. by Cheryl Hersha. The following will be a line by line response to Mr. Dowbenko's article. "Secret Weapons: Whitewashing CIA Mind Control Atrocities," by Uri Dowbenko "Ted Schwarz is an apologist for CIA mind control atrocities." From the beginning, Mr. Dowbenko establishes his "alleged" review of our book as a character assassination of Ted Schwarz, choosing to ignore the fact that there were four author/contributors to "Secret Weapons," plus the publisher's editing and comments. One can only wonder why Mr. Dowbenko launches on a personal attack rather than conducting a balanced review of the book. It is apparent Uri Dowbenko hates the book; fine, that is his opinion and he's welcome to it. However, I am deeply angered at the personal attack against Mr. Schwarz in the form of a "book review." Thus, I am compelled to write a balanced response, although, I am personally offended, and, quite frankly, shocked, by the nature and tone of this, "review." "His book, "Secret Weapons," is chock-full of specious reasoning, flawed logic and outright lies. Its intent is simple - to make CIA mind control programs appear to be "science" rather than illegal Soviet/Nazi-like torture and an outrageous abuse of human rights." Our book's intent, was to get the truth of the CIA's Mind Control experiments on children under Project MKUltra into the mainstream public by the telling of my sister and I's true story, accompanied by verified facts, the presentation of documentation, and within the frame of historical context and mind set of the Cold War. As a survivor, I have experienced time and time again that the general public, in my opinion, has to be given the truth within a frame of reference they can relate to. Otherwise, they panic and dismiss, deny, and downright refuse to believe what you are saying. Mr. Dowbenko, to my knowledge, does not have the life experience of a survivor who has been through the pain of the re-victimization of the victim. If he had, Mr. Dowbenko might have a better grasp of the "why" behind the way the book was written. I do believe that this is not Uri's personal style of journalism, and that he prefers a more, "in your face" style of writing; therefore, I can understand his disdain for our book's presentation, but cannot understand the vendetta against author Ted Schwarz. "Schwarz writes like a hack hired by the CIA to deliver a story on mind control atrocities by government perps." The above statement calls for support. None is given as he launches into the next statement: "As a CIA spin doctor, Schwarz has definitely earned his blood money." Mr. Dowbenko, here, writes his opinion as fact. Again, this strong statement mandates supporting facts; where are they? Has Mr. Dowbenko ever spoken with Mr. Schwarz? Does he know, for a fact, that Schwarz is employed by the CIA and receives payment from them? Indeed, he has no supporting evidence at all. I, on the other hand, have known and worked with Ted Schwarz for three years. He was checked and cleared before ever being contacted by the other three of us for the book. For a fact, Ted Schwarz is not employed nor paid by the CIA. He and his family have suffered great financial hardship because of his dedication to getting our story out. Personally, I am grieved, yet grateful beyond measure, for the price he and his family have paid willingly and heroically for me and the other survivors of MKUltra. There's your "blood money" Mr. Dowbenko. "The book Secret Weapons is well-crafted disinformation. It glosses over egregious human rights abuses, as well as the illegal activities of the CIA." Examples? "The cover blurb claims that Schwarz is the "best-selling author of more than 100 books and over 2,000 articles." For the record, Schwarz has written a biography of dead Illuminati Grand Dame Doris Duke, world-class scammer-businessman John DeLorean, and Cuban asset, "Marita."" For the record, Mr. Schwarz has done exactly what the cover blurb said, and the way this is written leads the reader to believe he has written only the three works cited. "As a propagandist (the CIA actually has a job called "strategic writer," or writer of disinformation for public consumption), Schwarz muddies the waters of CIA crimes and cover-ups by framing the life-long abuses of Lynn and Cheryl Hersha in the context of "training" to be "female James Bond secret agent." To quote from the book, "Cheryl, by contrast, was now spending school
Re: [CTRL] Creating a market for Star Wars
In a message dated 4/1/01 10:14:53 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have NO idea what you are talking about. What is a boss hog, deliverance from what? Not suprised that you missed these references to "pop culture"...of the 70's actually...but for you to be giving spelling lessons truly is a hoot!! Bill.
[CTRL] President Demands China Allow Contact With Plane Crew
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! President Demands China Allow Contact With Plane Crew Monday, April 2, 2001 President Bush demanded Monday that China arrange the "prompt and safe return" of the crew of a U.S. Navy surveillance plane that made an emergency landing on the Chinese island of Hainan after colliding with a Chinese jet. Greg Baker/AP Monday: U.S. Brigadier General Neal Sealock, left, and Naval Attache Bradley Kaplan of the U.S. embassy in Beijing walk through Beijing airport on their way to a flight to Hainan Island. China has prevented U.S. diplomats from communicating with the crew or having access to the plane, an EP-3 loaded with high-tech spying equipment, since the emergency landing Saturday night. Despite U.S. demands for immediate access to the crew and aircraft, China indicated that access would not be granted before Tuesday night, China time, White House spokesman Scott McClellan said. "We find it very troubling about the lack of speed. We continue to press for prompt access," McClellan said. "I'm troubled by the lack of a timely Chinese response to this request for this access," Bush said on the White House lawn earlier Monday afternoon. Bush said China's continued failure to comply would be "inconsistent with standard diplomatic practice." Bush also called for the immediate return of the aircraft, which U.S. officials have been attempting to prevent Chinese officials from boarding. "Our priorities are the prompt and safe return of the crew and the return of the aircraft without further damaging or tampering," the president said. Three U.S. Navy destroyers have been ordered to stay near the island until the stand-off is resolved. U.S. officials were assuming the Chinese had boarded the Navy plane at some point, but they said the administration won't know until speaking to members of the crew. The EP-3 is about the size of a Boeing 737 commercial jetliner and carries equipment capable of monitoring radio, radar, telephone, e-mail and fax traffic, according to defense experts. The U.S. military says the plane was on a routine surveillance flight in international airspace when two Chinese F-8 fighters intercepted it Sunday morning. China has accused the U.S. pilot of intruding into Chinese air space and landing without permission, and says it has made "proper arrangements" for the crew. However, a U.S. Embassy spokesman in Beijing insisted the American pilot followed "commonly accepted principles of international law" when the plane made its emergency landing. Chinese officials have assured the United States the crew is safe and uninjured, according to U.S. officials. China has reported that the F-8 involved in the collision went missing shortly afterwards. China has blamed the U.S. pilot for the collision. But the U.S. military said the cause is still under investigation. Adm. Dennis Blair, commander-in-chief of the U.S. Pacific Command, said the fast, nimble Chinese plane had bumped into the larger, slower American plane. Ordinary Chinese expressed anger and outrage. Few seemed to doubt the official explanation blaming the U.S. pilot. Discussion forums on Web sites were filled with demands to seize the plane and jail the crew. The Chinese Foreign Ministry issued a statement Sunday saying the U.S. plane veered suddenly into the Chinese jet. The U.S. side has "total responsibility for this event," the ministry said. State television repeated the accusation on its noon broadcast Monday. Gen. Henry H. Shelton, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said it was "hard to imagine" the U.S. plane had initiated the collision. Shelton said China had no authority to deny the U.S. contact with the plane's crew. "Under international law, that should've happened long ago," Shelton said in an interview. "We should have had access." Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said the crew had communicated after the collision to indicate no one was injured, but he said no one has spoken directly to them since they landed on Hainan. At an appearance later Monday with Egypt's president, Bush declined to address reports that Chinese officials may have boarded the U.S. jet. Bush also reiterated the U.S. position that the jet was operating within international airspace and had not intruded into Chinese airspace. Bush said U.S. officials had been in contact with the Chinese since the incident. He also offered assistance in finding the missing Chinese jet, one of two he said were shadowing the American plane when the collision happened. Chinese representatives have told U.S. officials the crew is safe, deputy White House spokesman Scott McClellan said. The U.S. destroyers happened to have stopped at Hong Kong en route home from the Persian Gulf when the EP-3 was forced to land, two officials said, speaking on condition of
[CTRL] Israel preparing for summer offensive
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Israel preparing for summer offensive Intelligence points to escalation of conflict into 'regional war' -- -- By Jon Dougherty © 2001 WorldNetDaily.com Israeli gunship attacks against Palestinian "Force 17" buildings and personnel marked the beginning of what sources say is the Jewish state's preparations for defending itself against a summer offensive that could explode into a regional conflict. Israel's March 28 helicopter gunship attacks against Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat's Force 17 elite guard "was not simply in response to the disastrous series of Palestinian attacks against Israeli civilians during the week," said a report by DEBKA-Net-Weekly on Friday. Rather, Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's decision to launch the attacks "was influenced most of all by intelligence reports coming in from the Arab League summit conference that opened in Amman on March 27," the report said, rather than simply because Palestinian terrorists had stepped up attacks against Israel in recent weeks. Sources said that Arafat, along with Iraqi Vice President Izzat Ibrahim and Syrian President Bashar Assad, "indicated that the last knots had been tied for launching a regional war, confirming the warnings issuing from sections of Israeli intelligence these last months," said the report. Israeli intelligence said the Palestinian leader's efforts "went beyond Arafat's habitual maneuvers to draw the region into a general conflagration," thereby prompting Sharon and top Israeli military leaders to develop long-range military plans to circumvent, or at least blunt, any future attacks by combined Arab forces. "In the name of pounding and disabling Arafat's machine of terror, the Israeli army is preparing a phased campaign that will at the same time improve its vantage points in readiness for a regional war," the report said. "Control of 'A Areas' of the West Bank currently under Palestinian jurisdiction could give Israel the strategic edge against invasion from the East or the North." Occupation of those areas, DEBKA-Net-Weekly said, would "happen quite soon" because intelligence sources said "an external Arab offensive is in the cards by early summer." Prior to seeing the new intelligence reports, Sharon was said to be confident that he "only had Arafat to deal with," and that he was "confident he could out-general" the Palestinian leader as he had in 1982. Sharon, DEBKA-Net-Weekly said, reportedly realized, however, that any military effort aimed solely at Arafat's forces still would be neither quick nor painless. "Arafat got it right therefore when he accused Sharon of declaring war on him and his men. But he missed the point when he accused Israeli chief of staff, Lt. Gen. Shaul Mofaz of preparing a 100-day war," the report said. Sources told the Mideast intelligence weekly that Sharon and his advisers are "estimating a time scale of at least 180 days - longer if the entire region is caught up in the conflict." Ultimately, the report said, Sharon seeks to eliminate Arafat from the region and take away his legitimacy and political clout, thereby replacing him with a more moderate Palestinian leader willing to agree to a series of drawn agreements aimed at settling differences between Jews and Palestinians. "The Israeli tactic earlier in March to encircle and blockade 25 Palestinian population clusters of the West Bank and Gaza Strip, so as to immobilize terrorists, gunmen and ambush artists and cut off their routes and access to command posts, was a trial skirmish to test the opposition's mettle," the report said. "It rehearsed projected maneuvers for isolating Palestinian population centers from zones likely to become front lines, especially in the Jordan Rift Valley and the Israel-Lebanese frontier, as well as from Israeli Arab concentrations in Israel proper, through which hostile forces can reach Israel's coastal population conurbations," said the intelligence weekly. Wednesday's air rocketing of Force 17 sites in Ramallah, Gaza, Dir Balah and Khan Yunis, was the second stage of Sharon's plan, the report said. "Round three began the day after on Thursday, March 29, when Israeli tanks stationed near encircled Palestinian locations, went into action in Hebron. Groups of armed Palestinians creeping into the hilltop district of Abu Sneineh district drew fire from the tank cannons," said the report. "The district was ordered evacuated Monday, March 26, after a Palestinian sniper with telescope shot dead an Israeli baby in the Jewish quarter below." The fourth "round" is likely to begin next week, DEBKA-Net-Daily said, quoting its sources. Then, "Israeli raider units, whether dropped by helicopter or landed on Gaza's Mediterranean coast from fast Israeli navy
[CTRL] China to use crew as 'hostages'?
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! China to use crew as 'hostages'? Expert: Beijing maneuvering to force defecting PLA colonel's extradition -- -- By Jon Dougherty © 2001 WorldNetDaily.com At least one China expert believes Beijing may be using 24 U.S. crewmen -- from a Navy EP-3 "Orion" surveillance plane it now holds -- as "hostages" to force Washington to extradite a former People's Liberation Army senior colonel back to the mainland. Yang Chih-heng, deputy director of the Strategic and International Studies under the private Taiwan Research Institute, a think tank, said the timing of an incident involving a Chinese F-8 fighter, which "bumped" the U.S. plane during a spy mission Saturday night, was "unusual." EP-3 "Orion" "Don't you feel the timing of the event was unusual, to intercept a surveillance plane on a routine mission?" Yang said, according to Agence France Presse on Monday. Yang said he believes Beijing may use the 24 crewmen aboard the plane - one Air Force, one Marine, and 22 Navy personnel, including three women - as "hostages" to push for the extradition of PLA Senior Colonel Xu Junping, who defected to the U.S. in December while visiting New York City with a Chinese military delegation. Reports have said Xu has provided invaluable military intelligence information to the Pentagon about Chinese military capabilities, the PLA and the entire mainland's military infrastructure. The reports, while unconfirmed thus far, say, "Xu had brought with him confidential information which allowed â¦the Bush administration to have a better picture of the PLA," said Agence France Presse. "Beijing may use the plane's ⦠crew as hostages in seeking the return of Xu," Yang said. "The possibility must not be ruled out." So far, U.S. officials have been unable to speak with any crewmembers. China has blocked U.S. diplomats, who have traveled to Hainan Island where the plane is being held, from gaining access to them. The EP-3 was forced to declare a "mayday" and land at a Chinese air base on the Island Saturday night after being "bumped" in midair by the Chinese fighter, the Pentagon and the White House have said. A pair of F-8s had been sent airborne to "shadow," or intercept, the American Navy plane. Shenyang Chinese F-8 "Finback" fighter of the type sent to shadow the U.S. Navyâs EP-3 Orion on Saturday. China has said its fighter crashed after the incident, and that the pilot has yet to be recovered. Beijing has also blamed the incident on the U.S. plane. Yang said the incident could be an isolated case, but added, "Beijing may send a clear warning signal to Washington, through the aggressive attitude in intercepting the routine U.S. patrol mission." "They may try to tell Washington the PLA is now armed with capability to counter against any attack from the U.S.," he added. Other reports in the U.S. on Monday tend to substantiate Yang's observations. The Washington Times said senior U.S. intelligence and military officials have noted an increase in "aggressiveness" among China's forces in recent months, in response to otherwise routine surveillance and naval missions performed by U.S. forces. Saturday's aerial incident "occurred a week after another confrontation between a Chinese warship and a U.S. Navy surveillance ship in the Yellow Sea described by Navy officials as a 'threatening' Chinese action against the ship in international waters," the Times said. In addition, Pentagon officials told the paper that China has stepped up intercepts of EP-3 Orions, using F-8s sometimes armed with air-to-air missiles. "They've been flying within 20 feet of the EP-3s," one official told the Times. Meanwhile, Fox News reported that ordinary Chinese, in street interviews, were outraged by the incident, and most vehemently criticized the U.S. Fox News quoted one young Chinese man, who was dressed in a Western-style business suit, as saying the Chinese government should take a hard-line approach against the U.S. "We can't not take action. If they want to fight a war, we'll give them a war," the man said. Yang said the incident and the added strain in U.S.-Sino relations could make it more difficult for the Bush administration to decide to sell Taiwan the advanced weapons it has asked for, including Aegis-equipped destroyers. "Washington may not sell the advanced weaponry Taipei desires in the coming arms talks," scheduled for mid-April, "but it may do so next year," Yang said. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes
[CTRL] Taiwan needs Aegis radar: US review
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Taiwan needs Aegis radar: US review TAIPEI - A confidential review by US naval officers has concluded that Taiwan needs a significant infusion of new weapons, including a sophisticated ship-borne radar system that China has put at the top of the list of arms it does not want Taiwan to have. The assessment was carried out by officers from the US Pacific Fleet, who visited Taiwan to assess its naval needs in light of China's military build-up. While military factors are not the only consideration, the still-secret review is an important element of the deliberations on whether to sell Taiwan the radar system, known as Aegis, and other naval weapons. The decision is one of the first major foreign policy tests for President George W. Bush's administration and could set the tone of US-Chinese relations for years to come. Beijing has singled out as particularly objectionable the potential sales of three types of weapons: the Navy's Aegis, which China fears may provide the basis for an eventual anti-missile defence and blunt China's missile threat to the island; the Army's advanced Patriot anti-missile system known as PAC-3; and submarines, which China maintains are offensive weapons. Taiwan has sought to buy submarines as well as the Aegis and has also been in discussions about the new Patriot system. The US naval officers who conducted the review concluded that Taiwan also needs the Kidd-class destroyer as a stopgap. And they cited the need for new submarines as well as an underwater sonar array to detect Chinese subs. The pending decision on arms sales has split American China hands, putting pressure on Mr Bush.--New York Times *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Crash widens US-China rift
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Crash widens US-China rift John Gittings in Shanghai Monday April 2, 2001 The Guardian The weekend's aerial clash between a US surveillance plane and Chinese fighter jets came at a delicate moment in US-China relations, as the Bush administration adopts a harder line towards Beijing. The tension has been increased in particular by the US claim that China is adding to its missile force aimed at Taiwan and Beijing's accusation that Washington is planning to sell Taipei advanced anti-missile equipment. Taiwan has been lobbying hard in Washington for four guided missile destroyers equipped with the hi-tech Aegis battle management system. The sale of the Aegis long-distance radar system would amount to the recognition by all sides that Washington intends to equip Taiwan with a missile defence system, and it is bitterly opposed by Beijing. A decision on the sale is expected within three weeks. "This has to be resolved very quickly. It's a serious matter," Senator Chuck Hagel, a senior Republican foreign affairs specialist, said yesterday. "We are at a very delicate point in our relationship with China. How this is handled will go a long way [in determining] the future of that relationship." The Chinese president, Jiang Zemin, has warned the US that it is inviting a new arms race, saying: "The more weapons you sell, the more we will prepare ourselves in terms of our national defence. That is logical." Beijing strongly denies that it is building up its missile force against Taiwan. It says the report has been fabricated by an "anti-China lobby" to justify the US supplying Taiwan with the Aegis system. Relations between the two countries have also been strained by the defection of a Chinese colonel to the US, and the arrest in China of a number of Chinese-born scholars with American connections. Colonel Xu Junping, an official in the ministry of defence, has been described as the most senior military defector from China. At least two Chinese-American scholars are being held after being detained separately in February, the US embassy in Beijing has confirmed. There is speculation that this may be a tit-for-tat measure in response to Col Xu's defection. The future of the strategic relationship between the US and China is also in doubt as the Pentagon moves towards upgrading the Pacific as the most likely theatre of future conflict. The defence secretary, Donald Rumfeld, supports this new course, which casts China as the principal adversary. While issuing strong warnings against the supply of missile defence systems to Taiwan, senior Chinese officials have tried to avoid comment on the broader US strategic shift. The deputy prime minister, Qian Qichen, reiterated Beijing's conviction that the two countries could be friends when he visited Washington and met Mr Bush. Diplomatic advisers in Beijing have so far been successful in persuading the leadership to give Mr Bush time to adjust. But observers believe that this moderate line is unpopular in the military and security services and will be impossible to maintain if the US sells the Aegis system to Taiwan. Any military incident on China's maritime borders, such as yesterday's aerial clash, touches on extremely sensitive nerves in Beijing. Patriotic anger may be quickly aroused by actions which may seem to infringe Chinese sovereignty in the South China Sea, as well as over Taiwan. The Chinese army has shown in the Taiwan Strait crisis of 1995-96 that it is prepared to run a higher risk. Beijing refuses to renounce the "use of force" in the area, saying that this is not a threat to Taiwan but to those who may try to intervene to frustrate its reunification. Both China and the US regard the South China Sea as of immense strategic importance. China strongly asserts its claim of historical sovereignty over the Nansha (Spratly) and other island groups - and what it is describes ambiguously as the "adjacent sea areas". The US regards the sea lanes in the area as critical strategic interests where free passage of oil and other commercial resources must be defended. On the detention of the academics, China says Gao Zhan, a US-based sociologist held since February 11, has confessed to "damaging state security." Li Shaomin, an American who works at Hong Kong's City University, has been held since February 25, after crossing the border to China proper. Another Hong Kong academic, Xu Zerong, has been missing since last August, it was confirmed at the weekend. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[CTRL] U.S. to Leave 3 Warships in China Area to Monitor
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! In-depth coverage about China - U.S. Relations Monday April 2 9:37 AM ET U.S. to Leave 3 Warships in China Area to Monitor President Bush Says China Should Act Promptly in Release of Navy Crew and Plane - (WWL, New Orleans) U.S. Demands Immediate Access to Navy Crew Members in China - (ABCNews.com) Navy Plane Collides With Chinese Aircraft - (Reuters) WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States will leave three warships in the South China Sea region to ``monitor the situation,'' after a U.S. surveillance plane made an emergency landing on Hainan Island, a defense official said on Monday. ``They were scheduled to transit through there, what they're doing now is moving more slowly, loitering in that area,'' the official told Reuters on condition of anonymity. The three destroyers will linger in the area ``just to monitor the situation while we've got our aircraft on the ground in Hainan,'' the official said. ``I wouldn't say it's a show of force,'' added the official, noting that U.S. naval forces routinely operate in the region. ''Their presence is a constant signal of U.S. interest *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] U.S. plane crew in China said soldiers boarding
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Tuesday April 3, 12:18 AM U.S. plane crew in China said soldiers boarding Yahoo! News WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The last communication from the crew of the U.S. Navy surveillance plane that made an emergency landing in China was that armed Chinese soldiers were boarding the plane, U.S. officials said on Monday. The crew of the EP-3 aircraft communicated with U.S. authorities shortly after landing on Hainan Island in China after a collision with a Chinese fighter jet. The U.S. officials, on condition of anonymity, said the crew had said Chinese soldiers were boarding the plane. The surveillance plane contained top secret state-of-the-art electronic eavesdropping equipment and the United States had demanded the aircraft and the crew returned. Sailor Says U.S. Spy Crew Was Moved By Christopher Bodeen Associated Press Writer Monday, April 2, 2001; 3:12 p.m. EDT BEIJING ââ Chinese authorities have moved the 24 crew members of a U.S. Navy surveillance plane to a military guesthouse, a Chinese sailor said Monday, a day after an in-flight collision forced the aircraft to land on a Chinese island. The EP-3 plane was standing empty at the military airfield where it landed in the town of Lingshui on Hainan island, said the sailor, who refused to give his name and was contacted by telephone at an adjacent naval facility. In Washington, President Bush said he was dismayed that diplomats had not been given access to the crew, and demanded their "prompt and safe return." The U.S. Pacific Command said it could not confirm reports Chinese officials may have boarded the U.S. jet, which has sophisticated monitoring equipment. China has indicated that U.S. access to the crew and aircraft would not be granted before Tuesday night, White House spokesman Scott McClellan said. But Chinese representatives have told U.S. officials the crew is safe, McClellan said.it Three American diplomats flew to Hainan (pronounced HEYE-nahn) island to go to the air base where the EP-3 plane landed Sunday after colliding with a Chinese fighter jet in international airspace, said U.S. Ambassador Joseph Prueher. China says the fighter crashed and that a search was under way for its pilot. U.S. officials said the United States is keeping three Navy destroyers in the vicinity of Hainan island instead of continuing their journey home from the Persian Gulf. Chinese leaders appeared to be trying to decide on a response. In Paris, Chinese Foreign Minister Tang Jiaxuan said Monday that he hopes an "adequate solution" is found to the dispute. "Our plane did not strike the American plane but rather the contrary," Tang said after meeting with French President Jacques Chirac. He expressed hope, however, that the accident would not strain Sino-U.S. relations. "The American side has explained time and again to our ambassador that this incident will not influence the general interests between China and the United States," Tang said. In London, a military expert warned that U.S. intelligence secrets and technology could end up in Russian hands if Chinese officials have managed to board the plane. "It's catastrophic for the U.S. if the Chinese have managed to gain access to the aircraft and if they've managed to obtain access to the computers and the hard disks," said Paul Beaver, spokesman for Jane's Information Group, publisher of the respected Jane's Defense Weekly. "The Chinese will probably sell the information to the Russians, so it means everyone will have access to one of the most sophisticated intelligence-gathering airplanes in the world," Beaver said. Standard procedure under the circumstances would call for the EP-3 crew to destroy as much of the plane's highly sensitive surveillance equipment as possible once it landed on Chinese territory, a U.S. official said, speaking on condition of anonymity. The U.S. military says the plane was on a routine surveillance flight when two Chinese F-8 fighters intercepted it Sunday morning. The EP-3 collided with one of the fighters about 60 miles southeast of Hainan. The unarmed propeller-driven EP-3 took off from the Kadena Air Base in Okinawa, Japan. It carried a crew of 22 Navy personnel, one Air Force officer and one Marine. The EP-3 is about the size of a Boeing 737 commercial jetliner and can monitor radio, radar, telephone, e-mail and fax traffic, according to defense experts. Military experts say such U.S. flights to monitor China's military are routine. Confrontations have been reported in the past. On March 23, a Chinese warship intercepted a U.S. Navy survey vessel in the Yellow Sea, said an American military official. The USS Bowditch was outside Chinese territorial waters but inside the area regarded by China as its exclusive economic zone. The Chinese vessel followed the Bowditch until it left that
[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: McVeigh Kaczynski; sic semper tyrannis, etc.
Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-~ FONT COLOR="#99"Make good on the promise you made at graduation to keep in touch. Classmates.com has over 14 million registered high school alumni--chances are you'll find your friends! /FONTA HREF="http://us.click.yahoo.com/03IJGA/DMUCAA/4ihDAA/zzNVlB/TM"BClick Here!/B/A -_- APRIL 01, 13:26 EST McVeigh Book: I Would Die for Bombing Timothy McVeigh AP/ [15K] BUFFALO, N.Y. (AP) Driving down a street with fuses already lit and their smoke filling the cab of his rented Ryder truck, Timothy McVeigh was prepared to crash his mobile bomb right into the Oklahoma City federal building if necessary. ``If I needed to, I was ready to stay in the truck and protect it with gunfire until the bomb blew up,'' McVeigh says in excerpts from a new book, ``American Terrorist: Timothy McVeigh and the Oklahoma City Bombing,'' in the April 9 issue of Newsweek. Instead, McVeigh says, he breathed a sigh of relief when he arrived at the building on April 19, 1995, because no cars were sitting in front to block his chosen parking spots. When the truck bomb exploded, it killed 168 people. McVeigh, 32, is scheduled to be executed May 16. ``I'll be glad to leave,'' he says. ``Truth is, I determined mostly through my travels that this world just doesn't hold anything for me.'' While being held in a federal high-security prison, McVeigh met Unabomber Theodore Kaczynski, who told authors Lou Michel and Dan Herbeck he found McVeigh likable, but thought the Oklahoma City bombing was ``unnecessarily inhumane.'' In 75 hours of prison interviews, McVeigh talked to Michel and Herbeck, reporters for The Buffalo News, about how and why he bombed the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. Buffalo is near his hometown of Pendleton, N.Y. McVeigh said he acted ``as calmly as any delivery-truck driver making a routine drop-off,'' parking right below the tinted windows of the America's Kids Day Care Center on the building's second floor. Among those killed were 19 children. Michel told ABC's ``PrimeTime Thursday'' last week that McVeigh's only regret was that their deaths proved to be a public relations nightmare. Authorities have said the truck contained 4,000 pounds to 4,800 pounds of explosives, but McVeigh told the authors it was more than a ton heavier. As he drove toward the building, McVeigh stopped to ignite a five-minute fuse, which soon filled the cab with acrid smoke. McVeigh said he had to roll down both windows to let some of the smoke out. A block from the federal building, McVeigh had to stop for a traffic light, and he lit a second fuse, one he had measured at approximately two minutes. McVeigh told the authors that both fuses were burning when he parked the truck and walked away. In the next 30 seconds, he said, perhaps a dozen people saw him. He was wearing a nondescript blue windbreaker over a T-shirt. On the front of the shirt was a drawing of Abraham Lincoln and the Latin phrase that John Wilkes Booth screamed after he assassinated Lincoln ``sic semper tyrannis,'' or ``thus ever to tyrants.'' On the back was a picture of a tree dripping blood and a quotation from Thomas Jefferson: ``The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.'' McVeigh says the bomb was intended to avenge raids by federal agents at the Branch Davidian compound at Waco, and the cabin of white separatist Randy Weaver at Ruby Ridge, Idaho. About 150 yards away from the building, he says, he started jogging and wondered if something had gone wrong because, by his calculations, the bomb should have exploded. ``Oh man, am I going to have to walk back there and shoot that damn truck?'' he thought. Then the explosion lifted him off his feet. He said he had no regrets, and in fact could feel anxiety leaving his body. ``It's over,'' he thought. While being held at the federal Supermax prison in Florence, Colo., McVeigh found that among neighboring inmates he had the most in common with Kaczynski, who is serving life after a mail-bombing spree that killed three people and injured 23. At first, Kaczynski refused to speak with McVeigh because he had misgivings about the way McVeigh had executed the bombing. However, Kaczynski eventually believed that his fellow bomber had been demonized by false media reports. Kaczynski, 57, laid out his feelings about McVeigh and the bombing at Oklahoma City in an 11-page letter to the book's authors. ``On a personal level I like McVeigh and I imagine that most people would like him,'' Kaczynski wrote. ``He was considerate of others and knew how to deal with people effectively.'' However, Kaczynski said ``the bombing was a bad action because it was unnecessarily inhumane.'' http://wire.ap.org/?PACKAGEID=oklahomacitybombing Your use of
[CTRL] LT: $2M of Marc Rich's cash seized at Gatwick (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,2-104762,00.html MONDAY MARCH 26 2001 Fugitive billionaire's $2m cash seized at Gatwick BY STEWART TENDLER CRIME CORRESPONDENT CUSTOMS officers have seized nearly $2 million (£1.4 million) in cash after it was flown into Britain on behalf of Marc Rich, the fugitive billionaire pardoned by Bill Clinton. Mr Rich, whose presidential pardon is under investigation by the FBI, now has to prove that the cash was honestly acquired, or he could lose it. Investigators are holding the cash under powers aimed at preventing drug traffickers moving their profits from country to country. The cash was found by customs officers this month when a courier for a British security company flew into Gatwick Airport from Europe. The company and courier were hired to transport a high-security package in a case and were un-aware it contained cash. The courier was stopped by customs officers and the case was searched. Officers seized the $1.9 million under legislation covering suspected cash from drug trafficking. The legislation allows customs officers to hold sums of £10,000 or more from travellers. They act if they have reasonable grounds to suspect the money is directly or indirectly linked to drug trafficking or will be used for further drug trafficking. The cash can be held for 48 hours, and if customs officers are still not satisfied that the money is legitimate a magistrate can give them powers to hold it for up to three months. Customs investigators are understood to have been given permission by a magistratesí court to continue to hold Mr Richís cash. If Mr Rich can show the source and the purpose of the cash is legitimate, customs officers will have to hand it back to him. Yesterday a spokesman for Customs and Excise said: ìWe cannot discuss individual cases of cash seizures.î The spokesman added that no one of Mr Richís name had been charged with any offence. Mr Rich has a company in London called Marc Rich Investment Ltd in Redan Place, Bayswater, West London. Yesterday a senior member of staff said that he was unaware of the seizure and referred any queries to senior executives in Zug in Switzerland, which is the home of Mr Richís private company. Mr Rich is based in Zug in a closely guarded home. For the past 17 years he has been facing 65 charges that include racketeering, evading $48 million in taxes and trading with Iran during the US Embassy hostages crisis in the early 1980s. In January he and his partner, Pincus Greene, were pardoned in one of the last acts of the Clinton presidency. The move caused outrage, although Mr Rich praised it as ìhumanitarianî. Mr Richís former wife, Denise, a socialite and songwriter, contributed more than $1 million to Democratic Party funds, and the circumstances of the pardon are now under investigation. Ehud Barak, the former Israeli Prime Minister, had also interceded on Mr Richís behalf. Once described as ìa beautifully sinister executive who could frame deals with the artistry of a pool sharkî. Mr Rich, 66, was born in Belgium and is said to have amassed more than £1 billion. He is reputed to have traded commodities with ìrogueî countries, often led by leaders few others would deal with. He was accused of illegal dealing with Iran under Ayatollah Khomenei and also dealt with Iraq, Libya, North Korea and Cuba. In 1983 he fled to Switzerland from his $10 million flat in New York and renounced his American citizenship just before he was indicted for tax evasion, fraud and other charges. He took out Spanish and Israeli citizenship. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A
[CTRL] THE QUEENS CONJUROR: THE SCIENCE AND MAGIC OF DR DEE.
http://www.economist.com/books/displayStory.cfm?Story_ID=540820 A magic brew Mar 22nd 2001 From The Economist print edition THE QUEEN’S CONJUROR: THE SCIENCE AND MAGIC OF DR DEE. By Benjamin Woolley. Henry Holt; 410 pages; $25. HarperCollins; £15.99 WHAT is the relationship between science and magic? The two were once closely linked: such eminent researchers as Tycho Brahe, Nicolaus Copernicus and Johannes Kepler all dabbled in astrology and other mystical activities alongside their more orthodox scientific pursuits. The late 16th century was a time of upheaval—cosmology was being redefined, the new world colonised, new stars and comets were appearing in the sky—and the search for knowledge took many forms. The astronomers who confirmed a supernova in the constellation Cassiopeia also pondered its astrological meaning. It is in this context, argues Benjamin Woolley, that the occult activities of John Dee, a mathematician, philosopher and adviser to Queen Elizabeth I, should be seen. Rather than unscientific, Dee’s seances with angels and spirits were one of the many ways he tried to fathom the secrets of the universe. Dee’s thirst for knowledge drove him to assemble one of the finest libraries in Europe, and throughout his life he nurtured the dream of establishing what would today be termed a research institute. His wide-ranging expertise meant he was regarded as an authority on matters ranging from calendar reform to navigation, cartography and the likelihood of the existence of the fabled north-west passage to China. He was also learned in cryptography, astronomy and the nascent science of optics. (That said, Mr Woolley slightly overdoes his claim that Dee prefigured work done later by Galileo and Newton.) But from his undergraduate days at Cambridge, when he staged a play whose impressive special effects were attributed to black magic, Dee was stalked by the accusation that he was meddling with diabolical forces. Which, indeed, he was. For much of his life Dee conducted seances or “actions” in which he communicated with the spirit world through a medium, or “skryer”, who spoke on their behalf. Dee’s most gifted skryer was a mysterious young man called Edward Kelley, through whom Dee variously attempted to discover the location of buried treasure, the secrets of the original language spoken by Adam in the garden of Eden, and clues to the future course of European politics. Because of his boundless curiosities, and because he moved between the worlds of science, mysticism, religion, politics and espionage, Dee proves an ideal character around whom to tell a number of intriguing stories. His fortunes rose and fell precipitously during his career; he went from being penniless to being a valued royal counsellor and back again several times, and was imprisoned, denounced and deceived for his pains along the way. Mr Woolley paints a subtle and sympathetic portrait of his subject, siding neither with the “hard-headed rationalists” who dismiss Dee as a fool, nor with the “muddle-headed mystics” who regard him as a Merlin-like wizard or an English Nostradamus. It is a shame that Dee was not born a century later, as he would have thrived in the scientific revolution. After all, Mr Woolley argues, Dee’s main interest was magic, which is traditionally divided into natural magic (obeying natural laws) and supernatural magic (involving supernatural forces). The word “magic”, in other words, is a term which includes understanding the world and exploiting that understanding. The modern term for this is science.
[CTRL] Spy Plane Capture Major Intelligence Coup for China
-Caveat Lector- http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/4/1/234033.shtml Major Intelligence Coup for China Charles R. Smith Monday, April 2, 2001 U.S. forces are on heightened alert after a game of aerial chicken turned deadly over the South China Sea. A U.S. Navy EP-3 Aries spy plane was forced to land inside China on Sunday after colliding with a People's Liberation Army Air Force jet fighter 62 miles southeast of Hainan Island. According to Chinese sources, a PLAAF J-8 fighter was lost in the bumping incident and its pilot has not been recovered. The incident set off a firestorm of criticism aimed at both Beijing and the Bush administration. One source was more than critical of the lack of military cover given to the slow-flying EP-3 four-engine spy plane. "This aircraft is referred to as a 'high-value asset,' " stated a current U.S. military fighter pilot. "I escorted them in the gulf during operation Desert Shield." "That there wasn't enough advance warning that there were Chinese fighters airborne and in a position to intercept this aircraft sounds a lot like the recent USS Kitty Hawk incident where the aircraft carrier was overflown by Russian fighter-bombers," stated the U.S. military pilot. "The pilot should have put this airplane in the drink," he concluded in disgust. Major Intelligence Coup for the PLA The capture of the EP-3 Aries spy plane is considered a major victory for the Chinese Army "2nd Branch" of the PLA signals division. In addition, several of the 24 crew members in Chinese custody are described as electronics specialists serving with the elite National Security Agency, or NSA. "This is a serious incident," stated Chalmers Johnson, president of the Japanese Policy Research Institute. "The thing that struck me the most was that this flight originated from Kadena in Okinawa." "I doubt we will ever get the plane back, and if we do it will be after the Chinese have taken it apart piece by piece," said Johnson. "This is very serious," agreed Larry Wortzel, director of the Heritage Foundation's Asian Studies Institute, in an interview from Seoul, South Korea. "The U.S. has conducted such routine reconnaissance flights for years. This is nothing like [Francis Gary] Powers. He was over Soviet airspace. This was in international airspace. The PRC has objected to these flights for years and flown close." "The [Navy] aircraft has a great deal of very sensitive intelligence gear," noted Wortzel. Airplane Part of NSA Echelon System The U.S. Navy EP-3 Aries aircraft captured by China is reported to be part of the National Security Agency "Echelon" system. Each Aries aircraft is so expensive that only 12 such planes are in the entire U.S. Navy inventory. Aries aircraft are equipped with giant onboard computers to sort and retransmit the data directly via secure link to NSA headquarters located at Ft. Meade, Md. The highly modified EP-3 Aries aircraft are also equipped with high-powered infrared video cameras to photograph various targets. Each Aries is designed to provide fleet and theater commanders worldwide with near-real-time tactical-signals intelligence. The Aries is packed with sensitive receivers and high-gain dish antennas. The captured EP-3 reportedly was on a mission to obtain a wide range of electronic emissions from deep inside Chinese territory. The normal crew complement is 24: seven officers and 17 enlisted aircrew consists of three pilots, one navigator, three tactical evaluators, and one flight engineer. The remainder of the crew is composed of equipment operators, technicians and mechanics. The Navy Aries aircraft are also frequently repainted with other squadron insignia, including tail numbers and cartoonlike characters, in an effort to disguise them as the more typical P-3 Orion anti-submarine aircraft. The covert paint jobs are performed at an NSA contract facility located outside Dallas-Fort Worth. Bush Policy Called Insane According to one Asia expert, the electronic intelligence flights off the Chinese coast are part of a deliberate effort by the Bush administration to draw a sharp Chinese response. "The U.S. Navy flying spy missions 62 miles from the Chinese coast is simply insane," stated Japan Policy Research Institute president Chalmers Johnson. "We bait the Chinese with these spy flights, we needle the North Koreans over military movements inside their own borders and antagonize the Russians over an American turned spy while tunneling under their embassy in D.C. This kind of cowboy diplomacy is a form of Clint Eastwood machismo." "It all adds up to that we are just now starting to pay for the election of George W. Bush," concluded Johnson. "The Chinese were completely justified in taking this action. The Bush administration is deliberately going out of its way to antagonize Beijing." = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:
[CTRL] Washington finances ethnic war
-Caveat Lector- The URL for this article is http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/choss/fin.htm www.tenc.net [Emperor's Clothes] WASHINGTON FINANCES ETHNIC WARFARE IN THE BALKANS by Michel Chossudovsky [3 April 2001] Professor of Economics, University of Ottawa, author of The Globalization of Poverty, second edition, Common Courage Press, 2001. Synopsis While Washington supports the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, it is at the same time --behind the scenes-- funneling money and military hardware to the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) now engaged in a border war with the Macedonian Security Forces. In a cruel irony, Washington is arming and advising both the KLA attackers and the Macedonian defenders under military and intelligence authorization acts approved by the US Congress. Military Professional Resources Inc. (MPRI), a mercenary outfit on contract to the Pentagon, is helping Macedonia --as part of a US military aid package-- "to deter armed aggression and defend Macedonian territory." But MPRI is also advising and equipping the KLA, which is responsible for the terrorist assaults. In this war, the American military-intelligence apparatus is pulling strings "on both sides of the fence". What is the hidden agenda? "[The] United States of America and the Kosovo Liberation Army stand for the same human values and principles ... Fighting for the KLA is fighting for human rights and American values."(Senator Jo. Lieberman, quoted in the 'Washington Post', 28 April 1999) -- M.C. WASHINGTON FINANCES ETHNIC WARFARE IN THE BALKANS by Michel Chossudovsky [3 April 2001] The Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) --transformed in September 1999 into the Kosovo Protection Corps (KPC) under UN auspices-- is behind the terrorist attacks in the Tetovo region of Macedonia as well as in Southern Serbia. In Macedonia, these assaults are waged by the KLA's proxy: the Ushtira Clirimtare Komtare (UCK) or National Liberation Army (NLA). The terrorists operate from KLA bases inside Kosovo under KFOR protection. Supported by the US, the KLA and its various proxies are well equipped. According to Carl Bildt (special UN coordinator for the Balkans), the Macedonian Security Forces "are no match" for the rebels: 'the guerrillas are a competent military organization. They have a core of very experienced fighters. They are well fortified, evidently well prepared, and in all probability they control substantial parts of the hinterland.'" But where did they get the money? The Western media conveys the impression that the National Liberation Army (NLA) developed into a modern rebel force overnight, spontaneously "out of thin air" and that NATO leaders have no contacts with the KLA. UN PEACE-KEEPING FINANCES TERRORISM According to the (London) 'Sunday Times', "American intelligence agents have admitted they helped to train the Kosovo Liberation Army before NATO's bombing of Yugoslavia".1 A review of US Congressional documents would suggest that CIA support was not discontinued after the war.2 Moreover, while the KLA maintains its links both to the CIA and criminal syndicates involved in the Balkans narcotics trade, the paramilitary organisation -renamed the Kosovo Protection Corps (KPC) has been elevated to UN status, implying the granting of legitimate sources of funding through UN as well as through bilateral channels. Procurement of military supplies, training of the KLA and military advisers has been entrusted to Military Professional Resources Inc. (MPRI), a US based mercenary outfit linked to the Pentagon. The pattern is similar to that followed in Croatia and in the Bosnian Muslim-Croatian Federation where so-called "equip and train" programmes were put together by the Pentagon. MPRI's training concepts --which had already been tested in Croatia and Bosnia- are based on imparting "offensive tactics... as the best form of defence".3 In the Kosovar context, this so-called "defensive doctrine" applied in terrorist assaults in Southern Serbia and Macedonia is intent upon transforming the KLA paramilitary into a modern military force which serves the Alliance's strategic objectives. MPRI listed in 1999 "ninety-one highly experienced, former military professionals working in Bosnia Herzegovina".4 The number of military officers working on contract with the KLA has not been disclosed. There is, however, a consistent thread: KLA Chief of Staff Agim Ceku (previously with the Croatian Armed Forces) has been involved in a long-term relationship with the MPRI. Ceku started working with MPRI in 1995 in the planning of "Operation Storm" in Croatia, which led to ethnic massacres and the expulsion of more than 200.000 Serbs from the Krajina region of Croatia. The fact that Ceku is "an alleged war criminal" -- according to the files of the Hague Tribunal (a body reporting to the UN
[CTRL] FC: China wants virus samples from software firms, by Ted Bridis (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- http://interactive.wsj.com/articles/SB985910528688563410.htm China Is Asking Software Firms To Provide Samples of Viruses By TED BRIDIS Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL WASHINGTON -- Security officials in Beijing have been requiring that in order to sell their products in China, leading antivirus-software companies must provide samples of destructive computer programs and rogue wiretap software from their research labs. Between 1999 and the end of last year, three of the industry's largest vendors -- Network Associates Inc. and Symantec Corp., both based in the U.S., and Trend Micro Inc. of Tokyo -- gave the Chinese security ministry roughly 300 different samples of the most common, malicious software found on the Internet, in exchange for permission to market their products in China. The three companies collectively represent nearly 75% of the $1.2 billion world-wide antivirus-software market. Executives at the three companies said China's Ministry of Public Security, the nation's principal police authority, told them that they needed virus samples to independently test the effectiveness of their software products before they could be sold to consumers. "We've met with this organization, developed a certain level of trust and believe they're doing what they're talking to us about," said Vincent Gullotto, senior director of the research labs at Network Associate's McAfee Corp. unit in Beaverton, Ore. Still, the move has raised concerns among some international-trade and national-security officials here who worry about China developing information-warfare tools. Others characterized the request as a potential time-saver for China that could provide researchers there with insights into developing not just future viruses but also an increasingly popular class of surreptitious monitoring software known as "back doors." It is also possible that the Chinese ministry could be looking to use the viruses to develop their own antivirus products at the expense of research done by foreign companies, although the authorities didn't seek access to the more useful source code that the software companies use to write antivirus products. An official at the press office of the Chinese embassy directed calls to its Commercial Office here. Repeated phone calls to that office weren't returned. Executives at the three companies said they rejected persistent Chinese demands for their broader research collections of viruses and other malicious software. A fourth company, F-Secure Inc. of Finland, said it negotiated last summer to let Chinese researchers conduct virus studies at its new laboratory in Beijing, but declined to surrender the samples directly. "This is very unusual," said Mikko Hypponen, virus-research manager at F-Secure. "No other country has anything similar to this." McAfee President Gene Hodges said that within 90 days of complying with the Chinese request, his company notified the U.S. government that it had provided the samples. "No specific concern was expressed" by the government officials that the company spoke with, Mr. Hodges said. He declined to say who or which U.S. government department his company contacted. Meanwhile, experts also were divided about the potential military usefulness of the common viruses turned over to China. Many of those samples can be found within rogue virus collections already on the Internet, though others are more rare. Mr. Gullotto of McAfee estimated that determined Chinese researchers "might be able to find 80% to 90%" of what the companies provided, and noted that antivirus software currently protects against those samples. Still, the unprecedented request to trade virus samples and other software programs for market access surprised some researchers at the companies. Sharing of viruses for research purposes is usually restricted to fewer than three dozen members world-wide of the loosely organized Computer Antivirus Researchers Organization. Software firms keep their sample virus collections -- code zoos -- in secure rooms and on separate computer networks that are off-limits to all but a handful of experienced employees. U.S. international-trade and national-security officials expressed disappointment with the companies' decisions to share any malicious software with China's government. They noted that the ministry has an intelligence division, and that China's military is developing a "Net Force" of young computer experts trained in information warfare. In late 1999, the Chinese army's official newspaper discussed the need for "software and technology for Net offensives so as to be able to launch attacks and countermeasures on the Net." These same officials said they were somewhat mollified that the software companies had negotiated to hand over to China only samples of relatively common viruses, not their more substantial collections of tens of thousands of dangerous programs. The shared collection was described as easily
[CTRL] MIND CONTROL, WORLD CONTROL by Jim Keith (chapter 18)
-Caveat Lector- from MIND CONTROL, WORLD CONTROL by Jim Keith, (ISBN 0-932813-45-3), Published by Adventures Unlimited Press 1997. pp. 139-149 Chapter 18--FUTURE SHOCK AND THE JFK HIT If any event this century was calculated as a "future shock" programming of the American populace, it must be the assassination of John F. Kennedy. Although a majority of Americans believe that the murder of Kennedy was performed by a conspiracy, there are few who would suggest that it was an act of pure mind control. The seminal research suggesting this interpretation of the assassination is that of "William Torbitt," reported to have been the pseudonym for deceased Texas lawyer David Copeland. Copeland was a prosecuting attorney in the early 1950s, later serving as a civil and criminal lawyer. He had been a close supporter of the Lyndon Johnson/Lloyd Bentsen political steamroller in Texas until 1963, when he severed his ties with the group for reasons that will become apparent. In 1970 Copeland wrote Nomenclature of an Assassination Cabal circulated widely in photocopy, detailing information that he had gathered while investigating the murder of President John F. Kennedy. Nomenclature has only recently been brought out in paperback from Adventures Unlimited under the title NASA, Nazis JFK, 27 years after the fact. While revealing much of the information relating to the thesis of the present chapter, Copeland was not aware of certain facts that I believe would have allowed him to see the broader overall picture. According to Copeland,'The killing of President Kennedy was planned and supervised by Division Five of the Federal Bureau of Investigation... Actually, Division Five acted dually with the Defense Intelligence Agency which was acting on behalf of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in the Pentagon." FBI Director and 33rd degree Freemason-the ranking Freemason in Washington, D.C. at the time--J. Edgar Hoover was according to Copeland, one of the conspirators. Vice President Lyndon Johnson was another. Not surprisingly, William Sullivan, former assistant FBI director, has stated that Hoover and Johnson "mistrusted and disliked all three Kennedy brothers. President Johnson and Hoover had mutualfear and hatred for the Kennedys." (1) According to Copeland, ''L.M. Bloomfield, a Montreal, Canada lawyer bearing the reputation as a sex deviate, the direct supervisor of all contractual agents with J. Edgar Hoover's Division Five, was the top coordinator for the network planning the execution. A Swiss corporation, Permindex, was used to head five front organizations responsible for furnishing personnel and supervisors to carry out assigned duties." Almost buried within the Nomenclature text is information that I consider among the most important revelations. He reports that prior to the assassination, in 1963, there was a top secret meeting at the Tryall Compound in Jamaica of Sir William Stephenson, Britain's top intelligence agent. At the meeting was Major Louis Mortimer Bloomfield of the British Special Operations Executive (SOE), an element of British intelligence allegedly created to infiltrate American intelligence: Colonel Shaw, formerly of the OSS; Ferenc Nagy, who had been a cabinet minister in the pro-Nazi Horthy government of Hungary, and later the prime minister of that country; Georgio Mantello, aka George Mandel, former trade minister for Mussolini; and White Russian imigries Jean de Menil and Paul Raigorodski. Shaw, Nagy, Montello, and Bloomfleld were all officials of Permindex. According to Copeland, the matter discussed at the meeting was the assassination of JFK. [2] The Kennedy family themselves were products of "The Conspiracy. During Prohibition "Papa Joe" Kennedy worked with Newark, New Jersey's Reinfeld Syndicate, half of which was owned by the Bronfman bootlegging gang of Canada. After the war, Kennedy was given a British distiller's license personally approved by Winston Churchill, with the Kennedy fortune administered by the the Lazard Brothers, Ltd., Rothschild affiliates and one of Europe's most influential families. As American ambassador to Great Britain, Kennedy attached himself to the pro-Nazi Cliveden set, where Round Tablets and Fabians congregated. Kathleen Kennedy, the sister of John, Edward, and Robert, married the Marquess of Hartington, son and heir to the Duke of Devonshire, the head of worldwide Freemasonry, and of course prominent among the British ruling elite. Harold Macmillan, who became British prime minister during the John Kennedy presidency, was a member of the Duke's family. While in Britain Joseph Kennedy was inducted into the Most Venerable Order of St. John of Jerusalem. Joseph and John Kennedy were trained in the Fabian-founded London School of Economics under the personal tutorage of Harold Laski, a Fabian Society controller. John Kennedy apparently crossed the conspiracy, and died because of it. Robert Kennedy's much touted war on the Mafia was in fact mostly a
Re: [CTRL] Anti-reparations ad sparks censorship debate atcampusesJ2
-Caveat Lector- GREAT AMERICA From: Nessie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Anti-reparations ad sparks censorship debate atcampusesJ2 Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 09:06:14 -0700 -Caveat Lector- The African American community has a long history of sleazy scumbags in leadership. Not unlike the European American community. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ctrl ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Night Lights from the Sun
-Caveat Lector- Actually, my husband said it's because I spend too much time on the Internet. But I think he's being sarcastic.. after all, he wants to know: why is it, if they charge dues, do they call it FREE Masonry? --- Johannes Schmidt IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was probably just the a ghost using your toilet and playing tricks on you. If it gets unusually drafty when you are excremeditating, it's just the spirit world intruding on the waking world, nothing to worry about. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] JW: GUTLESS REPUBLICANS BURY PARDONGATE INVESTIGATION
-Caveat Lector- FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE 4/2/2001 Press Office 202-646-5172 GUTLESS REPUBLICANS BURY PARDONGATE INVESTIGATION Not a Peep From Congress or Bush Administration for Several Weeks Business as Usual in the Nations Capital (Washington, DC) Judicial Watch, the public interest law firm that investigates and prosecutes government corruption and abuse, has, on behalf of the American people, waited patiently to see what, if any, further actions were forthcoming from the Republican Congress and the Bush Administration concerning Bill and Hillary Clintons sale of pardons for campaign contributions and other benefits. No one disputes, not even the new Attorney General, that Bill and Hillary Clinton were bribed. Despite this, in recent weeks, no public action has been forthcoming by the Republican Congress and Bush Administration to bring about justice. In the words of John Adams: Statesmen, my dear Sir, may plan and speculate for liberty, but it is Religion and Morality alone, which can establish the Principles upon which Freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free Constitution is pure Virtue, and if this cannot be inspired into our People in a greater Measure, than they have it now, they may change their Rulers and the forms of Government, but they will not obtain a lasting liberty. John Quincy Adams (June 21, 1776 -- 23 days before signing the Declaration of Independence). (Second President of the United States). If the Republican Congress and the Bush Administration are only interested in tax cuts, social security, education and medical reform, in the words of John Adams, we have little to no future as a democracy. Judicial Watch will not rest, as the political elite in Washington scratch their own backs and subvert justice at the expense of the American people. If indeed there is bipartisanship in Washington, it is a bipartisan effort to relegate the rule of law to the ash heap of American history, stated Judicial Watch Chairman and General Counsel Larry Klayman. Judicial Watch has several initiatives planned to bring the individuals who bribed Bill and Hillary to justice, stated Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Chile: Chupacabras Encounter Ends in Shootout
-Caveat Lector- SOURCE: TERRA.com DATE: April 1, 2001 19:56:55 Chupacabras Encounter Ends in Shootout ***Alerted to the presence of a strange animal, smallholders in Lampa, on the outskirts of Santiago de Chile, engaged in a certifiable nocturnal gunfight. Over 26 shots were fired and the complaint reached the attention of the Carabineros *** March 30, 2001 (TERRA) - The Lo Castro de Lampa sector outside fo Santiago de Chile became a target shooting range following the appearance of an animal which made strange, howling sounds. According to the version given by one of the protagonists, it all began after 01:15 hrs. when a chilling howl led him to see an animal similar to the "Tasmanian Devil" (translator's note: reference made to the Warner Brothers character) only a few meters away. Startled, the creature issued a scream which was described as a mixture of cow and pig sounds."The animal jumped some two meters in the air and started to run from zero to 100 kilometers an hour," he noted. . Strangest of all is that none of the seven dogs living on the affected parcel of land barked even once. "The dogs always warn us of any abnormal situation or animal which could be on the property, but last night they did nothing at all," added one of the witnesses. After the event, accompanied by other local residents, they went out to find traces of the creature's presence. They lit the area with flashlights but were unable to find a single trace. Over 26 shots from shotguns and pistols were fired into the air to scare off the mysterious vistor. A mysterious drop in voltage also occured during the early morning, keeping the entire sector in the dark for a number of hours. All the information was given to the Ovnivision Chile group for its analysis, and a report was filed with the local Carabineros (state police) barracks. Translation (C) 2001. S.Corrales, Institute of Hispanic Ufology. Special thanks to Gloria Coluchi = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Drudge: REPORT: U.S. PLANE ISSUED 'MAYDAY' AFTER CHINESE FIGHTER JETS SIGNALED THEY WOULD OPEN FIRE
-Caveat Lector- http://www.drudgereport.com/flasha.htm Mon Apr 02 2001 02:02:46 ET REPORT: U.S. PLANE ISSUED 'MAYDAY' AFTER CHINESE FIGHTER JETS SIGNALED THEY WOULD OPEN FIRE TAIPEI, April 2 -- KYODO -- A U.S. surveillance plane made an emergency landing in China on Sunday because two intercepting Chinese fighter jets signaled they would likely open fire, high-placed Taiwan military intelligence sources were quoted as saying Monday. The sources said they listened in on radio contact between the U.S. Navy aircraft -- an EP-3 Aries II surveillance plane -- and the Chinese jets, the ETT television network reported on its Web site. The dialogue shows that the Chinese pilots indicated that they were "extremely likely" to open fire, causing the U.S. aircraft to send a mayday signal to prevent an attack, the sources were quoted as saying. When the U.S. plane prepared for an emergency landing on the Chinese island of Hainan, it was clipped by one of the Chinese jets. The Chinese jet crashed into the South China Sea and its pilot remains missing. All 24 aboard the U.S. plane were reported unharmed. Washington said that the collision occurred in international airspace. While China is blaming the U.S. for the collision, the Taiwanese sources said it was the Chinese who caused the collision when they zoomed in on the surveillance plane in a bid to intercept it. The sources said initially the crew aboard one of the Chinese jets was elated when the U.S. plane went down, but that such euphoria quickly evaporated when they heard that the other Chinese fighter had crashed. Taiwan's Defense Ministry originally kept a low profile in connection with the incident, saying in a short statement Sunday night that it was on top of the situation. But on Monday, Administrative Vice Defense Minister Kao Yang called the incident "beyond comprehension," arguing that any country's ground control is able to track and control the movements of its aircraft. Speaking during questioning in the legislature, Kao refused to comment on whether the incident was likely to cause tension in Sino-U.S. ties. But he said if both sides took a hard-line stance, the resulting standoff would likely boost Taiwan's prospects for obtaining advanced weaponry from the United States. He said it was difficult to say whether U.S. arms sales to Taiwan would be positively or negatively affected in the event of an amicable resolution of the collision. Washington will decide in the coming weeks which items on Taiwan's shopping list -- including four destroyers equipped with the state-of-the-art Aegis antimissile radar system -- will get the go-ahead. China is adamantly opposed to the Aegis deal since the destroyers would greatly improve Taiwan's ability to fend off incoming Chinese missiles. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Anyone Have Any Articles on the Federal Reserve?
-Caveat Lector- "Stopforth, Jamie" wrote: I'll check out that book... Thanks for the information Michael. Jamie -Original Message- From: michael pugliese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 9:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Anyone Have Any Articles on the Federal Reserve? -Caveat Lector- Eustace Mullins? PUH-LEEZE! Heard him interviewed by Christian Identity loon, Rev. Jim Wickstrom on the Posse Comitatus radio show back around fall of '99. Blathered on about thousands of Christian children being kidnapped by Jews here in the U.S. and killed after Satanic rituals like drinking their blood. Wanna read something factual on the Federal Reserve read, "Secrets of the Temple, " by William Greider, the writer for Rolling Stone that did the famous interview with David Stockman early in the Gippers first term in infamy. Michael Pugliese I agree with Michael on both points. Joshua2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Anyone Have Any Articles on the Federal Reserve?
-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Stopforth, Jamie wrote: I'll check out that book... Thanks for the information Michael. I'm gonna say this one more time: READ Eustace Mullins' work, "Secrets of the Federal Reserve." Regardless of what ppl say, it *IS* the definitive piece. Eustace Mullins *is* "the father of the FIOA." He is one of a very few who actually got the majority of what he asked for. Before the "Evilarchy" realized that the FOIA was even being used to uncover things that were theretofore impossible to acquire, Mullins got things that never before were available. The result: Secrets of the Fedeeral Reserve. ANY ONE that has written of the Fed Reserve since Mullins did, whether they know it or not, are using his research, PERIOD! = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Anyone Have Any Articles on the Federal Reserve?
-Caveat Lector- ~~for educational purposes only~~ [Title 17 U.S.C. section 107] Does the Fed Fight Inflation? by Frank Shostak The Federal Open Market Committee, the executive arm of the US central bank, has voted to raise the federal funds rate and the discount rate by 0.5%, to 6.5% and 6% respectively. In its press release, the Federal Reserve said, Increases in demand have remained in excess of even the rapid pace of productivity-driven gains in potential supply, exerting continued pressure on resources. The Committee is concerned that this disparity in the growth of demand and potential supply will continue, which could foster inflationary imbalances that would undermine the economy's outstanding performance It would seem that the action taken by the central bank is aimed at countering the possible increase in the rate of inflation. Indeed most experts are of the view that the Fed has been too soft on inflation for too long; by raising interest rates by 0.5%, it has displayed strong leadership and determination to eradicate the inflationary menace. In response to the Fed's tighter stance, stock prices rose on investor optimism that the US central bank action will keep consumer prices in check. So it would appear that general rise in prices, labelled as inflation, is caused by an economic overheating i.e. demand exceeds supply. But how is it possible for economic activity to 'overheat'? In a market economy an individual exchanges by means of money goods that he produces for goods and services produced by other individuals. In short he exchanges goods that he produced for money and then exchanges money for goods and services he wants to have. Before an individual can exercise his demand for goods and services he must produce goods and services that can be exchanged for money. This in turn implies that production must precede consumption. So long as every increase in consumption is supported by production, no overheating, so to speak, can occur. The overheating emerges once there is an attempt to raise consumption without the backup from production. 'Overheating' requires the emergence of an exchange where individuals exchange nothing for money and then exchange money for goods and services. This can only occur when the money supply is expanding. The increase in the money stock means that the newly printed money wasn't earned; it originated out of the 'blue'. Once demand for goods and services, which is not supported by production arises, overheating will occur, which will take the form of a general rise in prices, labelled as inflation. Since growing money stock is the ultimate source of overheating why is the Fed regarded as an inflation fighter? It is the central bank together with the fractional reserve banking system that makes the increase in the stock of money possible? The reason why the Fed can masquerade as an inflation fighter stems from a misleading definition of what inflation really is. According to Mises, What many people today call inflation or deflation is no longer the great increase or decline in the supply of money, but its inexorable consequences, the general tendency toward a rise or fall in commodity prices and wage rates. In short according to Mises inflation is not general rise in prices, it is simply an increase in the money stock. Why is this important? Once inflation is defined as a general rise in prices, then anything, which contributes to price rises, is called inflationary and therefore must be guarded against. Not only has the central bank in this framework nothing to do with inflation, but on the contrary the bank is regarded as an inflation fighter. A fall in unemployment or a rise in economic activity are all seen as potential inflationary triggers and therefore must be restrained by the central bank's policies. Some other triggers like rises in commodity prices or workers wages are also regarded as potential threats and therefore must be always under the watchful eye of the central bank. This way of thinking views the economy as an unstable entity, which is prone to self-inflicting damages and therefore must be under the constant supervision of the central bank. Accordingly, individuals are depicted as automatons that are driven by mysterious destabilising psychological factors. However, regardless of psychological factors individuals actions are always conscious and purposeful. This in turn means that by striving to attain ends or goals individuals activities cannot be destabilizing but quite the opposite. What disrupts this process is the existence of the central bank and the fractional reserve banking system, which permits the expansion of the money stock. It is the expansion of the money stock that gives rise to consumption that is not backed up by production and hence to economic overheating. In other words it is not overheating that causes inflation, but rather it is inflation
Re: [CTRL] Anyone Have Any Articles on the Federal Reserve?
-Caveat Lector- ~~for educational purposes only~~ [Title 17 U.S.C. section 107] Economic Woes and the Federal Reserve Ron Paul Last week was tumultuous for worldwide stock markets, some of which ended the week at their lowest levels in years. Our own Dow-Jones and NASDAQ market indices both suffered heavy losses, while the Japanese Nikkei index fell to its lowest level since 1985! Nervous investors scrambled to sell even blue-chip holdings, especially after news that projected 2001 earnings would be lower than expected for many companies. The market downturn is not surprising. An economic slowdown began in 2000, accelerating in the last quarter of the year. All indications suggest the U.S. economy is headed for a further slowdown in economic growth, if not an outright recession. Already we have seen thousands of job cuts, and not only in the market-sensitive high tech sector. Economic output, as measured by the gross domestic product, dropped every quarter in 2000. Amazingly, some in Washington and the popular media want to blame President Bush and his administration for our current economic predicament. Never mind that growth began slowing fully one year before he took office. Apparently, certain politicians believe that the President is causing a recession merely by talking about the economic data. One prominent Congressman fretted that "we've been talking ourselves into this. Now it's happening." In other words, Mr. Bush is "talking down the economy," making a recession more likely simply by discussing reality. Such thinking should be dismissed as absurd. Economic recessions are not the result of a gloomy national state of mind; if so, we could create economic prosperity simply by positive thinking. Yet basic education in economics is so badly lacking in America that many will accept this preposterous idea. The same ignorance of economic principles is behind the fallacy that capitalism is to blame for recessions, that a free market system causes an inevitable cycle of booms and busts. In reality, it is government intervention in the economy, particularly in the areas of money supply and interest rates, which creates the precarious financial bubbles that cause economic recessions. The Federal Reserve did two things to artificially expand the economy over the last decade. First, it relentlessly lowered interest rates whenever growth slowed. Interest rates should be set by the free market, with the availability of capital (i.e. savings) determining the cost of borrowing money. In a healthy market economy, more saving equals lower interest rates. When savings rates are low, capital dries up and the cost of borrowing increases. When interest rates are set by the market, individuals and businesses make good spending decisions, because they pay an accurate interest rate for their debts. However, when the Fed set rates artificially low, the cost of borrowing becomes cheap. Individuals incur greater amounts of debt (evidenced by the record number of personal bankruptcies), while businesses overextend themselves and grow without real gains in productivity. The bubble bursts quickly once the credit dries up and the bills cannot be paid. Second, the Fed also steadily increased the monetary supply throughout the 1990s by printing money. Recent Fed numbers show yearly increases of nearly 15% in the M2 money supply. Since 1996, the Fed has poured more than $100 billion in new dollars into the U.S. economy. These new dollars may make Americans feel richer, but the net result of monetary inflation has to be the devaluation of savings and purchasing power. Prices seemed stable over the last decade, but many types of inflation were not reported as such. An obvious example is stock prices, where companies making little or no profit often sold shares at ridiculous price/earnings ratios. Housing and energy prices also rose dramatically, and wholesale price inflation is an increasing threat. So while monetary inflation creates a sense of prosperity in the short run, long-term it simply makes your dollars worth less. Only six months ago, market pundits were still proclaiming a new era of unending prosperity. They claimed that the fundamentals no longer mattered, that technology would save us from any more bear markets. Technology is wonderful, but it cannot save us from our own misguided monetary policies. Until we stop permitting the Fed to manipulate the economy, real prosperity will elude us. The Fed received credit for the boom times of the 1990s, yet its policies are responsible for the market correction and economic recession we are experiencing today. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different
Re: [CTRL] Anyone Have Any Articles on the Federal Reserve?
-Caveat Lector- ~~for educational purposes only~~ [Title 17 U.S.C. section 107] The Myth of the 'Independent' Fed by Thomas J. DiLorenzo Ever since its founding in 1913, the Fed has described itself as an 'independent' agency operated by selfless public servants striving to 'fine-tune' the economy through monetary policy. In reality, however, a nonpolitical governmental institution is as likely as a barking cat. Yet, the myth of an 'independent' Fed persists. One reason this myth persists is that statist textbooks have helped perpetuate it for decades. From 1948 until about 1980 Paul Samuelson's Economics was the best-selling introductory economics text. Generations of students were introduced to economics by Samuelson. Although not as popular as it once was, Samuelson's text (now co-authored with William Nordhaus) is still widely used. According to the 1989 edition: The Federal Reserve's goals are steady growth in national output and low unemployment. Its sworn enemy is inflation. If aggregate demand is excessive, so that prices are being bid up, the Federal Reserve Board may want to slow the growth of the money supply, thereby slowing aggregate demand and output growth. If unemployment is high and business languishing, the Fed may consider increasing the money supply, thereby raising aggregate demand and augmenting output growth. In a nutshell, this is the function of central banking, which is an essential part of macroeconomic management in all mixed economies. For about the past fifteen years the top-selling economics text has been Campbell McConnell's Economics, which echoes Samuelson and Nordhaus's idealistic statism: Because it is a public body, the decisions of the Board of Governors are made in what it perceives to be the public interest ... the Federal Reserve Banks are not guided by the profit motive, but rather, they pursue those measures which the Board of Governors recommends ... The fundamental objective of monetary policy is to assist the economy in achieving a full employment, noninflationary level of total output. These are mere wishes, not statements of facts, for there is voluminous evidence that the Fed -- like all other governmental institutions -- has always been manipulated by politicians. The Fed as a Political Tool When the Fed was founded, it was controlled by two groups, the Governors' Conference, composed of the twelve regional bank presidents, and the seven-member Federal Reserve Board in Washington. In 1935 the Fed was reorganized to concentrate nearly all power in Washington. Franklin Roosevelt 'packed' the Fed just as he later filled the U.S. Supreme Court with political sycophants. Roosevelt appointed Martinet Eccles, a strong supporter of deficit spending and inflationary finance, as Fed Chairman, although Eccles had no financial background and lacked even an undergraduate degree. In those years the Fed was really run by Eccles's political mentor, Treasury Secretary Henry Morgenthau, Jr., and thus ultimately Roosevelt. Later presidents were no less willing to influence supposedly independent Fed policy. According to the late Robert Weintraub, the Federal Reserve fundamentally shifted its monetary policy course in 1953, 1961, 1969, 1974, and 1977-all years in which the presidency changed. Fed policy almost always changes to accommodate varying presidential preferences. For example, President Eisenhower wanted slower money growth. The money supply grew by 1.73 percent during his administration -- the slowest rate in a decade. President Kennedy desired somewhat faster money creation. From January 1961 to November 1963, the basic money supply grew by 2.31 percent. Lyndon Johnson required rapid money creation to finance his expansion of the welfare/warfare state. Money-supply growth more than doubled to 5 percent. These varying rates of monetary growth all occurred under the same Fed chairman, William McChesney Martin, who obviously was more interested in pleasing his political master than in implementing an independent monetary policy. Martin's successor, Arthur Burns, was such a staunch supporter of Richard Nixon that he lost all professional credibility by enthusiastically endorsing Nixon's disastrous wage and price controls. Even though his staff informed him in the fall of 1972 that the money supply was forecast to grow by an extremely robust 10.5 percent in the third quarter, Burns advocated ever faster growth before the election. The growth rate in the money supply in 1972 was the fastest for any one year since the end of World War II and helped re-elect Richard Nixon. However, President Ford called for slower monetary growth as part of his 'Whip Inflation Now' program, and the Fed complied with a 4.7 percent growth rate. But when Jimmy Carter was elected, Burns again complied with presidential wishes by stepping up the growth rate to 8.5 percent. Carter did not
[CTRL] Review - EXOPOLITICS
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ecologynews.com/cuenews17.html UFO Central Newsletter- http://expage.com/ufocentral Books to Read - EXOPOLITICS by Alfred Webre Universe Books 2001 ebook available at: http://www.universebooks.com In times of change new words must be created to describe new paradigms. In recent years terms such as Exobiology, (the study of the possible forms extraterrestrials might have evolved), and Exoworlds, (those types of worlds life may have formed upon), have entered the mainstream consciousness. Alfred Webre has written a well thought treatise about universal politics and the form it might take, and coined the term 'Exopolitics'. In his new ebook Mr. Webre explores the concept of a multi-dimensional civilization founded upon spiritual and moral principals, one our species is currently un-aware of, and in a sort of 'spiritual quarantine' from. This book is not a 'channeling' from some cosmic source with StarTrek names. In the best tradition of scientific inquiry, Webre has taken a postulate (multidimensional civilization) and offered a theory based upon observable phenomena. He calls upon the societies of the planet to join in a "Decade of Contact" to explore the possibility of a civilization that spans both our physical cosmos as well as those existing in other dimensions. Some of Alfred Webre's postulates are that we exist quarantined from Universe Society due to our violence and greed, and that we can rejoin our spiritual family as soon as we can grow beyond this socially childish behavior. He suggests that the UFO presence is a sign that a Universe Society is reaching out to us in an unfolding plan to raise our awareness. He invites governments and individuals alike to accept that challenge and to evolve and grow into a new cosmic awareness, an awareness that will make our species worthy of expansion into, and participation with, a greater reality. - Tom Cloud [EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] JW: GUTLESS REPUBLICANS BURY PARDONGATE INVESTIGATION
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 04/02/2001 8:07:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (Washington, DC) Judicial Watch, the public interest law firm that investigates and prosecutes government corruption and abuse, has, on behalf of the American people, waited patiently to see what, if any, further actions were forthcoming from the Republican Congress and the Bush Administration concerning Bill and Hillary Clintonsâ sale of pardons for campaign contributions and other benefits. No one disputes, not even the new Attorney General, that Bill and Hillary Clinton were bribed. I know you like to think of them as a team, but Hillary had no power to give pardons. Prudy A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF!ttp://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF!ttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NM: Clinton's Chinagate Chickens Come Home to Roost
-Caveat Lector- With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff For the story behind the story... Monday, April 2, 2001 11:59 a.m. EDT Clinton's Chinagate Chickens Come Home to Roost For eight years the Clinton-Gore administration called them "our strategic partners." But now Beijing's military leaders are holding hostage a U.S. aircraft containing super-secret technology along with its 24-man crew. It looks like Bill Clinton's Chinagate chickens are coming home to roost. After eight years of Chinese intelligence gathering under the Clinton administration's "open-skies" policy, where it was considered destabilizing for the U.S. to maintain military superiority even over potentially hostile foreign powers, the strategic balance has plainly shifted. The Communist Chinese now apparently believe they are in a position to stare down the U.S. in a high-stakes international game of chicken. Thirty-six hours after a U.S. EP-3 Aries spylane was forced down over the South China Sea, authorities in Beijing have allowed no communication with the plane's crew, even refusing U.S. diplomats on the ground access. Should Americans be surprised at Beijing's belligerence? Not really. At least not unless they believed the Clinton-Gore gang's platitudes about strategic engagement with China - assurances offered while the Democratic duo were stuffing their pockets with contributions traced back to the Chinese army. In fact, the handwriting on the wall has been apparent for years. What else could one deduce from the 1997 testimony of former Clinton fund-raiser Johnny Chung when he described the chilling comments made to him by then-head of China's military intelligence, Gen. Ji Shengde. "We like your president," Ji told Chung. "We want to see him re-elected." Ji promised Chung $300,000 to insure Beijing's desired outcome. Then there was Charlie Trie, the longtime Clinton crony who just last year told investigators that money he gave to the ex-president also came from Chinese military sources. "An Indonesian businessman with ties to the Chinese military gave [Trie] $200,000 to contribute to the Democratic Party and to reimburse those who gave to President Clinton's legal defense fund," the Washington Times reported. The Times identified Trie's money man as Tomy Winata, "an ethnic Chinese who has been described by U.S. intelligence officials as a businessman who has profited greatly by serving as a front man for corporations controlled by Indonesian and Chinese army and intelligence officials." Despite the twin Chinagate shockers, the testimony of Chung and Trie caused nary a ripple in last year's presidential campaign. During the years Bill Clinton and Al Gore were in charge of U.S. national security, contributions traced back to the Chinese military kept rolling in - not only from Trie and Chung, but also from suspected Chinese spy John Huang, arms dealer Wang Jun, Lippo Group executive James Riady and others. Meanwhile, China was able to perfect its ballistic missile technology, thanks to a helping hand by Loral Aerospace Corp. CEO and Democratic Party mega-donor Bernard Schwartz. Worse still, while suspected spies like Wen Ho Lee labored away in New Mexico's Los Alamos nuclear weapons lab, Beijing managed to get its hands on top secret design plans for the U.S.'s W-88 multiple nuclear warhead. Despite repeated warnings by Energy Department officials that Lee was up to no good, the Clinton Justice Department looked the other way. Dr. Lee still hasn't told the FBI where he hid the legacy codes downloaded from his computer at Los Alamos, data U.S. officials described in 1999 as the "crown jewels" of the American nuclear weapons program. And it wasn't just Dr. Lee. Under Clinton Energy Secretary Hazel O'Leary, countless agents of Beijing were allowed unprecedented access to some of our most closely guarded nuclear facilities. Of course, the fact that China managed to obtain our most senstive national security secrets while Bill Clinton and Al Gore raked in campaign cash from agents of the People's Liberation Army was all just a coincidence. At least that's what we're told. The American media did its best to help keep the lid on, with lethargic Chinagate coverage guaranteed to keep the public from getting too excited about the apparent betrayal of U.S. security by a sitting American president. Even direct nuclear threats from Beijing officials did little to alarm a quiescent press. This chilling account of a meeting between China specialist Charles Freeman and deputy chief of Chinese intelligence Gen. Xiong Guangkai was reported in the Washington Post, but ignored by most of the rest of the media: "'I said you'd get a military reaction from the United States' if China attacks Taiwan, Freeman recalled, and they said, 'No you won't. We've watched you in Somalia, Haiti and Bosnia, and you don't have the will.' Then, according to Freeman, [Guangkai] added: "'In the 1950s, you three times
Re: [CTRL] JW: GUTLESS REPUBLICANS BURY PARDONGATE INVESTIGATION
-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Prudence L. Kuhn wrote: I know you like to think of them as a team, but Hillary had no power to give pardons. Prudy Yeah, like Roger (her brother) had none, either;-) = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: China's Political Strategy Exposed
China's Political Strategy Exposed Chinas Political Strategy Exposed By J. Michael Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] April 2, 2001 Communist China is using sophisticated methods to try to manipulate the Bush administration into doing its will, including mobilizing influential Republicans on its behalf. President George W. Bush and his national-security team are in the crosshairs of an aggressive Chinese influence operation to manipulate the administrations decisions about security interests in Asia. Through a combination of high diplomacy, personal contacts, media campaigns, threats and money, Beijing is exploiting divisions within the Bush camp and the Republican Party. The immediate goal is to prevent the White House from authorizing sales of defensive military equipment to Taiwan and from deploying effective defenses against Chinas small but growing arsenal of tactical and strategic ballistic missiles. Beijing rapidly is modernizing its primitive military from an almost purely defensive armed force to one that can project offensive power throughout the region and hold the United States hostage to nuclear blackmail. First on its list of objectives is the retaking of Taiwan, which it views as a renegade province. The trump card of the Peoples Republic of China (PRC) in its campaign against the island is its formidable buildup of ballistic missiles across the Taiwan Strait a move that easily would be checkmated if the United States were to sell Taiwan four Arleigh Burke-class destroyers equipped with the supersophisticated Aegis air-defense and battle-management system. This would allow Taiwan to knock out missile attacks from the mainland. Not only that, but the ships would enable the United States to include Taiwan in a regional theater-missile-defense system with other allies, including South Korea and Japan. Similarly, Beijing wants to make sure the United States never deploys an antiballistic-missile system that would eliminate the threat of its small but growing force of intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) aimed at the American heartland. The game for Beijing is to leave Taiwan and the United States vulnerable to missile blackmail. The Chinese campaign bears all the hallmarks of a Soviet-era active-measures operation except that it is far more sophisticated and likely to have a higher degree of success. Whereas the Soviets tried to exploit naïve liberals and moderates to do their bidding, the PRC is mobilizing worldly Republicans and businessmen drawn into situations where their profits depend on keeping Chinas Communist rulers happy. Beijings previous major influence operations concentrated on the annual certification for most favored nation (MFN) trading status a name that so embarrassed policymakers that they changed it to something more bland. Now, that sophisticated active-measures machine is focusing on military matters that directly affect U.S. national security. In an orchestrated campaign of good cop/bad cop, Chinese officials have gone directly to U.S. public opinion, trying to appeal to sentimental feelings of cooperation and partnership while literally threatening war. The operation is aimed at five levels: the American public at large, journalists who influence the public and decisionmakers, business elites, Congress and the president and his inner circle. Its a remarkable campaign, a savvy administration official tells Insight. We havent even settled in here and the Chinese have sent three high-level groups of emissaries to lobby the president, his national-security team and even members of his family. The regime has sharply focused its message. Rather than a blanket condemnation of all U.S. arms sales to Taipei, as had been its pattern, the PRC took a more nuanced approach to target only certain weapons systems, namely those key Aegis warships. It made relatively few objections to the sale of less-capable Kidd-class destroyers that have no missile-defense role. The first PRC delegation visit, in February, consisted of former ambassadors to Washington and Ottawa who were well-connected in both capitals. The second, in late February and early March, included a senior official responsible for Taiwan affairs. The third was a high-level visit of Vice Premier Qian Qichen, who is responsible for coordinating foreign policy and dealing with Taiwan. All three visited Washington without an invitation, which diplomatic sources say is a sharp break with PRC protocol that always had been to await an official invitation. The timing was exquisite, coming as it did just before President Bush was to decide which weapons the United States would sell to Taiwan. Official PRC sources say that Qian had four items on his agenda: concern about the administrations criticism of the Chinese human-rights situation, Beijings weapons proliferation to Iraq, upcoming sales of U.S. arms to help Taiwan defend itself and opposition to a U.S. national
Re: [CTRL] In Support of Reparations for African-Americans (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- --- Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In Support of Reparations for African-Americans by Alex Wolf ___ Nakano comments: In ballgames, when referees makes a bad or questionable call which favors one team, they sometimes then intentionally make a call in favor of the other team in an effort to "balance things out". Those who are now sincerely supporting reparations for the decendents of former slaves may have similar motivations, but their position is not rational. Where is there any justice in forcing innocent people to pay for "damages" they did not cause? If this scheme succeeds, many ancestors of people who came here after the Civil War will be forced to pay "reparations". Millions of Americans are in this category. Will a Vietnamese refugee who came to America in the 1970's be forced to pay reparations for something that ended 100 years before they came to this country? Reparations are not about fairness or making things right. This entire issue is about unscrupulous and greedy people trying to cash-in on playing the race card one more time. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] REU: Americans support email monitoring, study finds
-Caveat Lector- Americans support email monitoring, study finds WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A survey released Monday finds Americans are worried about criminal activity on the Internet and willing to let law enforcement agencies intercept suspects' email despite misgivings about privacy protections. The survey by the Pew Internet American Life Project found 73 percent of those surveyed were worried about criminals using the Internet to plan and carry out crimes, with 43 percent very concerned. Child pornography topped the list of online criminal activity that most worried Americans, followed by credit card theft, terrorism, wide-scale fraud, hackers accessing government and business sites, and computer viruses. Over half of the respondents, 54 percent, approved of the FBI or other law enforcement agencies intercepting email over the Internet sent to and from people suspected of criminal activities. The FBI's e-mail wiretap system, formerly dubbed "Carnivore," has been criticized by privacy and civil-rights advocates, who say it violates protections against unreasonable search and seizure. Americans familiar with Carnivore were divided on its merits, with 45 percent supporting the system and 45 percent saying the potential for abuse outweighed any crime-fighting benefits. Sixty-two percent said new privacy laws were needed to protect online communications against unwarranted surveillance, while 14 percent said existing laws covering telephone conversations were adequate. The survey of 2,096 adults was conducted between February 1 and March 1, and has a margin of error of 2 percentage points. 17:54 04-02-01 Copyright 2001 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Anyone Have Any Articles on the Federal Reserve?
-Caveat Lector- --- "Stopforth, Jamie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll check out that book... Thanks for the information Michael. From: michael pugliese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Eustace Mullins? PUH-LEEZE! Wanna read something factual on the Federal Reserve read, "Secrets of the Temple, " by William Greider, Nakano comments: WRONG! Greider's book is a cheap imitation of Mullin's book. Many people were coming into regular bookstores and asking for "Secrets of the Federal Reserve" which these stores refused to carry. Someone saw an opportunity to write a book and give it a sound-alike title. I have read both books. Greider's is a shallow whitewash that pretends to be a serious investigation. Whatever you may think of Eustace Mullins he is an amazing researcher. His book is heavily footnoted and referenced. I don't know what all he may be doing now, I don't keep up with his activitiesbut his book on the Federal Reserve is the standard against which all others are measured. It is a very solid piece of work and I highly recommend it. In fact, I have given away several copies over the past 15 years. Nakano __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NM: Roger Clinton Won't Cooperate with Grand Jury, Accuser's Lawyer Predicts
-Caveat Lector- Newsmax-Inside Cover Tuesday April 3, 2001 Roger Clinton Won't Cooperate with Grand Jury, Accuser's Lawyer Predicts The attorney for federal inmate Garland Lincecum, whose family said they paid Roger Clinton's business partners $235,000 in exchange for the promise of a presidential pardon, predicts that Clinton would go to jail rather than cooperate with a grand jury probing the allegation. "The most that he faces is a sentencing on a fraud charge," said Lincecum's lawyer Ed Hayes Sunday. "And I don't think he'd get more than five or six years for that." "He's been in jail once already and he held up pretty well the first time," Hayes added, referring to Clinton's 1985 cocaine conviction. "The likelihood is that he would go to jail again rather than testify against anyone." Hayes made the comments to WABC Radio's John Batchelor and Paul Alexander, who broke the story about Roger Clinton's alleged pardon peddling on Sean Hannity's Feb. 27 WABC broadcast. Their on-air report about the Lincecum family's plight sparked interest by prosecutors in the office of U.S. Attorney for New York's Southern District Mary Jo White. White has convened a criminal grand jury, which is expected to hear testimony this week linking Clinton to the pardon scam. Last week Batchelor told NewsMax.com that Clinton himself had been subpoenaed and was expected to appear at the federal courthouse in White Plains, New York on Wednesday. Hayes declined to confirm Roger's subpoena during his on-air comments to WABC, but pointedly noted that the grand jury will hear evidence putting the former first brother at the center of the scandal. "They have, I think, a lot of evidence that ties (Clinton's business partners Dickie Morton and George Locke) to a pardon-for-money scheme and I believe they're going to come up with a lot of evidence that ties Clinton to Morton and Locke," who dealt directly with the Lincecum family. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
