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January 15, 2003

The United States of America has gone mad
John le Carré


America has entered one of its periods of historical madness, but
this is the worst I can remember: worse than McCarthyism, worse than the Bay
of Pigs and in the long term potentially more disastrous than the Vietnam War.

The reaction to 9/11 is beyond anything Osama bin Laden could have hoped for
in his nastiest dreams. As in McCarthy times, the freedoms that have made
America the envy of the world are being systematically eroded. The combination
of compliant US media and vested corporate interests is once more ensuring
that a debate that should be ringing out in every town square is confined to the
loftier columns of the East Coast press.

The imminent war was planned years before bin Laden struck, but it was he who
made it possible. Without bin Laden, the Bush junta would still be trying to
explain such tricky matters as how it came to be elected in the first place; Enron;
its shameless favouring of the already-too-rich; its reckless disregard for the
worlds poor, the ecology and a raft of unilaterally abrogated international
treaties. They might also have to be telling us why they support Israel in its
continuing disregard for UN resolutions.

But bin Laden conveniently swept all that under the carpet. The Bushies are
riding high. Now 88 per cent of Americans want the war, we are told. The US
defence budget has been raised by another $60 billion to around $360 billion. A
splendid new generation of nuclear weapons is in the pipeline, so we can all
breathe easy. Quite what war 88 per cent of Americans think they are supporting
is a lot less clear. A war for how long, please? At what cost in American lives? At
what cost to the American taxpayers pocket? At what cost  because most of
those 88 per cent are thoroughly decent and humane people  in Iraqi lives?

How Bush and his junta succeeded in deflecting Americas anger from bin
Laden to Saddam Hussein is one of the great public relations conjuring tricks of
history. But they swung it. A recent poll tells us that one in two Americans now
believe Saddam was responsible for the attack on the World Trade Centre. But
the American public is not merely being misled. It is being browbeaten and kept
in a state of ignorance and fear. The carefully orchestrated neurosis should
carry Bush and his fellow conspirators nicely into the next election.

Those who are not with Mr Bush are against him. Worse, they are with the
enemy. Which is odd, because Im dead against Bush, but I would love to see
Saddams downfall  just not on Bushs terms and not by his methods. And not
under the banner of such outrageous hypocrisy.

The religious cant that will send American troops into battle is perhaps the most
sickening aspect of this surreal war-to-be. Bush has an arm-lock on God. And
God has very particular political opinions. God appointed America to save the
world in any way that suits America. God appointed Israel to be the nexus of
Americas Middle Eastern policy, and anyone who wants to mess with that idea
is a) anti-Semitic, b) anti-American, c) with the enemy, and d) a terrorist.

God also has pretty scary connections. In America, where all men are equal in
His sight, if not in one anothers, the Bush family numbers one President, one
ex-President, one ex-head of the CIA, the Governor of Florida and the ex-
Governor of Texas.

Care for a few pointers? George W. Bush, 1978-84: senior executive, Arbusto
Energy/Bush Exploration, an oil company; 1986-90: senior executive of the
Harken oil company. Dick Cheney, 1995-2000: chief executive of the Halliburton
oil company. Condoleezza Rice, 1991-2000: senior executive with the Chevron
oil company, which named an oil tanker after her. And so on. But none of these
trifling associations affects the integrity of Gods work.

In 1993, while ex-President George Bush was visiting the ever- democratic
Kingdom of Kuwait to receive thanks for liberating them, somebody tried to kill
him. The CIA believes that somebody was Saddam. Hence Bush Jrs cry:
That man tried to kill my Daddy. But its still not personal, this war. Its still
necessary. Its still Gods work. Its still about bringing freedom and democracy
to oppressed Iraqi people.

To be a member of the team you must also believe in Absolute Good and
Absolute Evil, and Bush, with a lot of help from his friends, family and God, is
there to tell us which is which. What Bush wont tell us is the truth about why
were going to war. What is at stake is not an Axis of Evil  but oil, money and
peoples lives. Saddams misfortune is to sit on the second biggest oilfield in the
world. Bush wants it, and who helps him get it will receive a piece of the cake.
And who doesnt, wont.

If Saddam didnt have the oil, he could torture his citizens to his hearts content.
Other leaders do it every day

[CTRL] McCain-Feingold in 2004

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Lieberman will fight for Jewish money
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By Matthew E. Berger

STAMFORD, Conn., Jan. 13 (JTA) -- If Jewish money accounts for an estimated
half of big-time Democratic donations during the presidential primary season,
then Sen. Joseph Lieberman (D- Conn.) would seem to be at a distinct
advantage.

But that may not be the case.

Analysts say that Lieberman may have a slight advantage in the money game
because he is an observant Jew with strong ties to the organized Jewish
community.

But Lieberman's base of support is the same group that the other Democratic
hopefuls will be soliciting fervently.

And others already have some key Jewish players behind them.

In addition, new campaign finance laws that go into effect for the first time will
change the way Jewish money is doled out for 2004.

``Lieberman will get a substantial majority of Jewish contributions, but the new
campaign laws will expand the number of dollars people can contribute in the
election cycle, said Larry Sabato, director of the University of Virginia's Center
for Politics.

The new law, known as McCain-Feingold for the lawmakers that sponsored it,
doubled the amount of contributions a person could give to a primary campaign
to $2,000.

It also raised the amount of money a contributor could give to all candidates and
committees in each election cycle from $50,000 to $95,000.

And because soft-money donations -- unlimited funds given to the national
political parties to use on behalf of candidates -- have been banned, there are
fewer avenues for the money to be distributed and fewer large-scale donations
for candidates.

That makes individual contributions, theoretically, more important, although
loopholes are expected to be found around the new laws.

Analysts say the new laws will lead to an increase in contributors who are
``double dipping, giving funds to more than one Democratic candidate.

``It's clearly not necessary, early in the cycle, to come out strongly for one
candidate, said Jack Bendheim, an active donor in Democratic politics in the
Bronx. ``You can write multiple $2,000 checks.

Bendheim would not say who he is supporting, but Lieberman has some big
Jewish names by his side.

Marvin Lender, the bagels magnate and Jewish communal leader, is serving on
the board of directors of the Lieberman campaign.

Lender, who lives in Connecticut, said he believes the ``lion's share of large
gifts to the Lieberman campaign will come from Jewish donors.

``This becomes a grass-roots campaign throughout the Jewish community, said
Lender, who is heavily involved in Jewish organizations, including the United
Jewish Communities and the Israel Policy Forum.

There is no empirical data on the amount of Jewish money in Democratic
politics because the Federal Elections Committee does not ask for a
contributor's religion.

But by all accounts, Jewish donors have played a significant role in bankrolling
the Democratic operations.

``The Democratic Party, as it's been structured in the last generation or two,
can't be competitive at its current level without Jewish fund raising, said Ira
Forman, executive director of the National Jewish Democratic Council.

Analysts estimate that candidates making a serious bid for the Democratic
nomination will need to raise some $35 million-$40 million.

And in the general presidential election, parties have raised nearly double that.

Lieberman is likely to get a large share of that money this time around.

The historic nature of his campaign will entice even supporters of other
candidates to give some money to his campaign, and could bring in funds from
Jewish contributors who have not given in the past.

He also endeared himself to many Jews during his run with then-Vice President
Al Gore as the Democratic nominee for vice president in 2000.

But that does not mean he will get all of the Jewish money.

Steve Grossman, former national chairman of the Democratic National
Committee, has been working the phones for former Vermont Gov. Howard
Dean, soliciting numerous Jewish donors.

He says the Jewish community is much less monolithic than people believe, and
he is not writing off the constituency for his candidate.

``There's a vast number of Jews who can write $2,000 checks who don't affiliate
with Jewish entities, said Grossman, a former president of the American Israel
Public Affairs Committee.

``For those people not imbued with the Jewish community, Joe Lieberman will
not have any particular advantage over other candidates.

Those groups include Jewish trial lawyers, who have a former member of their
profession in Sen. John Edwards (D-N.C.), health care professionals who may
largely support Dean, a physician, and gays and lesbians, who also back Dean
because he supported gay civil unions in Vermont.

If Sen. Bob Graham (D-Fla.) enters the race, his strong ties to Florida's Jewish
community could also come at a cost to

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 Prosecutor drops charges in shooting of 4 officers [ Post 397948 ]

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Synopsis: I'll be damned--an actual pro-liberty decision! Good news!


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Published: January 7, 2003  Author: Allison Klein and Del Quentin Wilber


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Baltimore prosecutors today dropped attempted murder and first-degree assault
charges against a man who shot four police detectives during a November drug
raid, saying they believe Lewis S. Cauthorne acted in self- defense when he
wounded the officers as they barged into his home.

Investigators concluded detectives did not announce that they were police just
before smashing down Cauthorne's door with a battering ram and rushing in to
look for drugs, State's Attorney Patricia C. Jessamy said at a news conference
this morning in Clarence Mitchell Courthouse. Cauthorne was interviewed by
police the night of the incident and told them, I didn't know you guys were
police. I thought I was getting robbed, according to law enforcement documents
obtained by The Sun. Jessamy confirmed as much today, saying Cauthorne, 26,
acted out of a reasonable fear when he fired six shots from a .45-caliber
handgun at the raiding officers.

The case against Cauthorne would not hold up in court, Jessamy said, because
the raid violated a precedent set in the case of Wilson vs. Arkansas, which held
that police bearing search warrants must knock and announce their presence
before forcing their way into a home. This decision rests solely on my sworn
duty to weigh all of the facts and evidence in this case, against the laws of our
land, and in 1995, the Supreme Court ruled in a manner to provide very clear
guidance on the legal issues that impact this case, Jessamy said. ... The
burden of proof cannot be sustained.

Acting Police Commissioner John McEntee said today he opposed the decision
by prosecutors. I would have liked to have seen all available charges
prosecuted, he said. Speaking at a separate news conference, McEntee said
the officers identified themselves and the charges should be pursued. The four
officers suffered non-life-threatening injuries. We feel that this case should
have been taken to a judge and or jury to have this decision made, McEntee
said.

Cauthorne was released from jail about 7 p.m. today, according to a
spokeswoman for the Division of Pretrial Detention. He had been been jailed
since the Nov. 19 incident. McEntee also disputed Jessamy's claim that the raid
team did not announce its presence. We very clearly have officers who are
making statements who are saying 'I said it.'

Several officers who broke down the front door of Cauthorne's North Baltimore
house were wearing street clothes without department-issued yellow raid
jackets, and uniformed officers were stationed out of view in the back of the
house, the documents show. There was no conclusive evidence that Cauthorne
would have known that members of the raid team were police officers,
Jessamy's office said in a news release.

In subsequent interviews with investigators, the raid team members were also
unable to provide a consensus of what happened as they broke the door down.
Some said at least one officer yelled police as they entered the house, while
others said they couldn't remember what -- if anything -- was spoken in the
tense moments before the raid.

According to Jessamy's office, several officers said that the raid team did not
announce their police presence before the door was rammed. Neighbors and
other witnesses at the scene also indicated that there was no announcement of
police before the entry, prosecutors said. Statements by the uniformed officers
stationed at the back of the house also say nothing of hearing anyone yelling
police before or during the battering of the door, but they did hear the door
being rammed, according to Jessamy's office.

Detective Kevin Rosenborough, a member of the raid team, was asked whether
anyone shouted police search warrant before the door opened. Not to my
knowledge, Rosenborough answered.

Raid team member Detective Paul Wojcik was asked, When he knocked, did
you hear anyone say anything? I, I, I didn't, he answered. Cauthorne's lawyer,
Warren A. Brown, said the decision by prosecutors to drop charges against
Cauthorne sends a message that the criminal justice system can be fair. This
will instill confidence in the community that just because the police make an
accusation, it doesn't mean it's a whitewash, Brown said. It lends credibility to
the criminal justice system when something like this happens.

Police raided the house at 8:55 p.m. with a search warrant after they were told
by an anonymous source that drugs were being sold out of the home, in the
1000 block of Cameron Road. The raid yielded six bags with trace amounts of
marijuana,

[CTRL] Iraqi Follies

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The Iraq Follies

President Bush seems to be hinting that he hopes someone will shoot Saddam
Hussein or that Saddam will decide to retire. All things are possible, but Saddam
isn't the retiring type, and he certainly did not reach age 65 in his job by being an
easy target.

More than a decade ago, I wrote that the first George Bush had inadvertently
provided Saddam with guaranteed protection against a coup. By making war on
the Iraqi people and by so obviously being in the pocket of the Israelis, the
United States assured that any Iraqi who tried to replace Saddam would be
immediately branded an American-Zionist agent and ripped apart by the Iraqi
people. Iraqis, who don't like Saddam, dislike the United States and Israeli
governments even more.

If there is no chance of a replacement surviving in the top spot, there is no point
in taking the enormous risk of trying to assassinate a man who is an expert in
survival. Our current President Bush has continued the protection policy. Only
a senior leader would have even a slim chance of getting close enough to
Saddam to whack him, and our esteemed president has let it go public that Iraqi
senior leaders will be tried as war criminals. All that piece of stupidity does is
guarantee that the senior leadership will remain loyal to Saddam.

So it looks increasingly as if the president is going to have to go to war if he
wants to eliminate Saddam Hussein. It looks as if he will have to go to war in the
face of a United Nations inspections report that says no evidence of Iraqi
weapons of mass destruction can be found. That probably won't deter Bush, but
it will create enormous and profound problems for the United States. We will be
viewed by most of the world as a bully and a hypocrite of the first order.

It's clear by now that Bush isn't going to make public any evidence that Iraq has
weapons of mass destruction because he doesn't have any. He claims to have
provided the inspectors with the U.S. intelligence, but if so, having acted on it,
they haven't found anything.

In the meantime, he might blunder us into a war with North Korea. While we can
probably take Iraq with relatively few American casualties, there is no way under
the sun to fight a Korean War II without very large American casualties. In the
first place, within hours of the start of the war, the 37,000 Americans sitting there
as a tripwire will be dead. I doubt the North Koreans will bother to take any
prisoners this time. Already the neoconservatives are trying to downplay Korean
strength by harping on how poor the country is. Well, they should remember
their own rhetoric. North Korea is often described as the last Stalinist
dictatorship on earth. So it is. Yet when Stalin was alive, the majority of the
Soviet people were also poor, often starving, and he nevertheless produced an
enormous military machine. Stalin had hundreds of divisions that German
intelligence didn't know existed, and the Soviet Union turned out T-34 tanks by
the tens of thousands. Never confuse general prosperity or the lack of it with
military strength. Like a poor man with a .357-caliber Magnum, a country can be
poor but well-armed, too.

America's relationship with Israel is behind this problem. North Korea, even with
nuclear weapons, is no threat to the United States. The Israelis, however, are
deathly afraid that North Korea will sell nuclear warheads and long-range
missiles to Iran or other Israeli enemies. Don't take my word for it. Watch your
cable news shows. The same pro-Israel, pro-war-with-Iraq crowd has already
started yakking about how dangerous it would be if North Korea were allowed to
export its weapons. Dangerous to whom? Well, they never say, but they
obviously mean Israel, since the Israelis themselves have often voiced this fear
in Israeli newspapers. Their axis of evil and our axis of evil are the same.

It's too bad the early Zionists didn't pick Kenya for their new colony instead of
Palestine. The United States would have had a much easier time of it. Hopefully,
though, one day Americans will get tired of pulling Israel's chestnuts out of the
fires of its own making. Eliminating threats by making peace with its neighbors
seems to be a low priority in Israel.



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[CTRL] Anthrax A Cure for Cancer

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Study says modified anthrax might fight cancer

January 15 2003

Anthrax, the bioterrorism agent that killed five people in 2001 and has frightened
millions more, may be an effective cancer killer, according to new research from
the National Institutes of Health (NIH).

Genetically engineered anthrax protein - designed to activate only on contact
with a chemical on the surface of malignant tumours - dramatically reduced and
even eradicated cancers in tests on hundreds of mice, according to a study
published today in the Proceedings of National Academy of Sciences. Thanks to
the genetic engineering, the anthrax did not poison the mice.

Three main types of tumours - soft-tissue fibrosarcoma, skin melanoma and
lung carcinoma - responded to the anthrax protein, which is a key component of
anthrax bacteria, said Dr Stephen Leppla, an NIH scientist and co-author of the
study. In theory, the new toxin should work on all or almost all forms of cancer,
he said.

In trials on mice, a single customised anthrax-protein injection reduced the size
of lung tumours an average of 65 per cent, Leppla reported, and soft tissue
tumours 92 per cent.

After two treatments, tumours were 86 per cent to 98 per cent smaller,
respectively. Melanomas were 85 per cent smaller after one treatment; 92 per
cent after two.

After two anthrax injections, many tumours - including 88 per cent of soft-tissue
fibrosarcomas in the mouth - were completely eradicated, researchers
reported. Tumour cells began dying just 12 hours after anthrax treatment began.

The results suggest that there's a good use for one of nature's deadliest
bacteria, said Dr Thomas Bugge, an NIH scientist and study co-author. We are
at a very early stage and it will take years before we are ready to try it in
humans, he added. I'm excited, but also cautious about the idea.

For more than 20 years, cancer treatment researchers have been investigating
some of the same toxins terrorists consider, including diphtheria and the nerve
agent ricin. They produced nasty and sometimes fatal side effects, however. A
diphtheria-derived anti-cancer agent is the only candidate to have gained federal
approval. It's used as a cancer-fighting drug of last resort.

In addition to yielding an effective new cancer toxin, the anthrax finding
revolutionises the field by providing a new technique to keep the toxins from
attacking healthy, non-cancer cells, said Dr Arthur Frankel, a leading cancer-
toxin biologist.

It's the most important breakthrough in our field in the last 20 years, said
Frankel, who was not involved in the study.

In effect, the engineered anthrax can tell the difference between cancer cells
and healthy ones.

Normally, the deadly toxin in anthrax bacteria is activated when it finds furin, an
enzyme in all living cells. Until then, it is like grenades with the pins still inside
them, Leppla said.

Leppla and Bugge altered chemicals in the anthrax protein so it wouldn't be
activated by furin, but only by an enzyme called urokinase, which is found on the
outside of cancer cells.

The anthrax toxin didn't harm skin or hair cells right next to the tumours,
because they didn't have the urokinase enzyme on their surfaces, Leppla and
Bugge said.

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An American Wolfowitz in Baghdad!
By Hussein Shobokshi, Special to Arab News
Published on 15 January 2003

JEDDAH, 15 January 2003  The picture in the office of Paul Wolfowitz, deputy
secretary in the
US Department of Defense, speaks for itself. In it, he is surrounded by Dick
Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld; the former was secretary of defense during the
first Gulf War and is the current vice president and the latter is the secretary of
defense today. Paul Wolfowitz sincerely believes that the upcoming strike on
Iraq is his war; he also believes that this will be his path to the post that has
eluded him due to his ethnicity.

Wolfowitz has said previously among private circles that if he was not Jewish he
would have been secretary of defense by now. To a great degree, the current
war policy against Iraq is part of Wolfowitzs greater vision, presented in a
doctrine in 1992.

The contents of the doctrine paint a different Middle East and a different Islamic
world. It also has some very familiar themes similar to the ones presented in the
now infamous Rand Report on Saudi Arabia.

For thirty years Paul Wolfowitz, with some associates, has been developing and
applying the world view that mainly guides the proposed war on Iraq today.

His associates include Richard Perle and Kenneth Adelman. They all made a
very strong case to the American administration to extend the war on terror into
Iraq.

Paul Wolfowitz has always had a strong conviction that he was destined for
glory. This was made even stronger when the famous American novelist Saul
Below based a character in his novel Ravelstein on him. The novel states the
following about Wolfowitzs character: He has a powerful mind and a great
grasp of great politics and its only a matter of time before he has a Cabinet
rank, and that would be a damn good thing for the country.

Since then Wolfowitz has been on a mission to achieve glory and greatness for
himself, but the question remains: At what cost?

After the fall of the Soviet Union, Wolfowitz has developed a theory that the US
should and can confront all Evil enemies and it will prevail over them.

He believes that the world is full of enemies who will hurt the US if they can. He
was not as surprised by the Sept. 11 attacks as others in the American
establishment because his formative experience was in confronting the Soviet
Union.

Wolfowitz sincerely believes that you do have to treat your friends different from
enemies, thinking that this is a basic principle of international relations. During
the time he diplomatically served in Asia, he was known for applying pressure on
friends like Marcos and the Korean generals to encourage democratic reforms.

Now in a political play he has been staging for a while, Wolfowitz believes he
can reshape the Arab and the Islamic world.

While the Arab world lacks some important political, social and economic
reforms, Wolfowitzs plans fail to mention the destructive role which the tyrant
government of Israel plays in the region.

He fails to specify how the US must get rid of the Israeli occupation of Arab
territories. In Israel, the US has been supporting a government headed by a
convicted war criminal with a foreign minister previously ousted by a corruption
scandal. This has to end, if we seek new global political values.

To say Wolfowitzs plan is hypocritical would be a gross understatement.
Wolfowitz is very keen on a war on Iraq; it has been something he has been
dreaming of, as it would solidify his ambitions to become the next secretary of
defense.

The road to this great personal glory, as far as Wolfowitz is concerned, goes
through Baghdad. This would be the opening act in his wicked play. It would not
be surprising to think that Wolfowitz would love for the war to begin on a full
moon!

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[CTRL] NYTimes.com Article: Philanthropist Gives A.C.L.U. $8 Million

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January 15, 2003
By STEPHANIE STROM

Peter B. Lewis, the feisty philanthropist who has forced
several beneficiaries of his largess to practice greater
financial discipline, is giving $8 million to the American
Civil Liberties Union. But Mr. Lewis said there were no
strings attached to his gift.

The donation, the largest the organization has ever
received from an individual, will support the A.C.L.U.'s
efforts to fight antiterrorism measures that it deems a
violation of civil liberties.

This gift comes at a critical time in the A.C.L.U.'s work
and the country's history, Anthony Romero, executive
director of the group, said on Monday. Even in the midst
of an economic downturn, Peter recognizes that civil
liberties are not a luxury item to be supported only in
times of prosperity.

Mr. Lewis, a longtime member of the organization, said he
made the contribution because he wanted to show support for
Mr. Romero and the causes with which the A.C.L.U. deals.

I just think that what they work on is very important, he
said.

Mr. Lewis's profile as a philanthropist has skyrocketed
since he declared a boycott of charities in Cleveland, his
hometown, last fall and then forced the Solomon R.
Guggenheim Museum in New York to pare its budget in
exchange for a $12 million gift.

My gifts are not given on condition, he said. But I have
discovered that as a philanthropist, one's leverage is
substantially before the check is written.

Mr. Romero expressed no concern over Mr. Lewis's penchant
for driving hard bargains for his gifts. Rather, he said,
he expected to be able to use the gift to encourage other
philanthropists, something about which Mr. Lewis was less
certain.

I'm flattered that he thinks it will have that effect, but
I think philanthropists tend to be pretty independent,
said Mr. Lewis, who made his fortune in the auto insurance
business.

Since the Sept. 11 attacks, the A.C.L.U. has seen record
growth in membership, Mr. Romero said. In 2000, it
attracted 59,607 new members, but in 2001, almost 75,000
people joined.

Last year, its ranks swelled by 90,000, bringing membership
to 330,000.

What this demonstrates is that a growing portion of the
American public is concerned that government efforts to
ensure national security undercuts core American values
such as fairness, equality and freedom, Mr. Romero said.

The Lewis gift means that the A.C.L.U. will probably meet
its goal of raising $50 million for its endowment, he said.

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[CTRL] Between the religious Right and the unreligious Left

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Between the religious Right and the unreligious Left
Elwood McQuaid  Jan. 14, 2003

To assert that decent people who care about their country, yet differ
with liberal political agendas are the American equivalent of al-Qaida
is
intolerable

In a broadcast last fall, the CBS program 60 Minutes leveled a
withering
assault at the religious Right. The focus of the storm of protest
that
followed the segment was a statement by a prominent evangelical who
said,
in effect, that Muhammad, founder of the Muslim religion, was a
terrorist. What went virtually unnoticed, however, were the
implications
that the present administration in Washington, including the
president,
is in the pocket of the so-called radical religious Right and that
these
religious leaders orchestrate America's political and military
agendas.

The innuendo is that these are dangerous people who are leading the
country down a slippery slope of hysterical extremism. In the final
analysis, the implication is but an expression of the liberal,
cultural,
social, and political crusade to excise faith, traditional morality,
and
biblically based convictions from the American landscape.

Misinformation, Scare Tactics, and Bad Intentions

An accurate definition of religious Right is hard to come by. For
purposes cherished by radical liberals, deceptively called moderates
by
their own ilk, a member of the religious Right is almost anyone
holding
religious or conservative views that oppose the leftist agenda. At the
hub of this perceived consortium of malcontents and misfits are those
depicted as noxious fundamentalists whose sole desire is to capture
the
country, then mandate every facet of life for hapless American
citizens.

To assert that these are deliberate and deceitful scare tactics is
putting it mildly. Yet such patently obvious, malicious, and
unsubstantiated attacks are repeated often because they have worked so
well in the past. The gullible are led to believe that there are some
70
million evangelical Christians and their fellow travelers out there
who
are bent on making everyone's life, and the lives of all their
offspring,
intolerable. Such orchestrated hysteria is a modern version of the
Salem
witch-hunts; and, one might add, it is no less dangerous.

We all understand the rough and tumble of politics. However, despite
an
embarrassing deterioration in civility and good taste in campaigns for
public office, certain violations of truth and propriety still are
clearly far out of bounds. These violations most notably appear in the
rhetorical invectives against conservative Christians. To assert that
conscientious, decent people who care about their country yet differ
with
liberal political agendas are the American equivalent of Osama bin
Laden's al-Qaida or the Taliban of Afghanistan is intolerable. And
beyond
the heat of such statements, often made after ego-fracturing electoral
defeats, lurks an even more serious subtlety. Being wedged into
unsuspecting minds is the insidious perception that evangelicals are
an
essentially evil element that must be repudiated, or it will take the
country down.

It is already a well-known fact that the only group almost no one
objects
to ridiculing relentlessly in this country is evangelical Christians.
We
are fair game for anyone who cares to take a shot at us, no matter how
untrue, unfair, or malicious the shot may be. Tolerating such
unrebuked
slander and hatemongering is bad enough, but accepting and enshrining
it
harbingers serious consequences for the future.

Myths and Propaganda Ploys

Like revisionists who rewrite history to deny the Holocaust, liberals
have constructed a mythological house of horrors around the religious
Right.

A dangerous voting juggernaut.

If the number ascribed to this group (70 million) is accurate, it is,
indeed, a considerable slice of the American population. As registered
participants in the political process, we evangelicals express
ourselves,
as is our right, by voting our consciences on candidates and issues
that
concern us.

So, what's the problem? That is precisely what groups of every
political
and social persuasion across the spectrum do, and no one is shocked or
surprised. This is, after all, a democracy. Christians who take their
Bibles seriously have a mandated standard of responsibility to civil
government. Romans 13 clearly indicates that governments are
established
to maintain order, execute justice, and embody standards of conduct in
the exercise of their duties that will promote respect for those
placed
in authority.

Thus we are to pray for those in high office, pay imposed taxes, and
be
subject to the higher powers. In other words, we are to act as honest,
honorable, responsible citizens. To imply that this standard is
somehow a
sinister and malicious threat to the survival of national order and
integrity flies in the face of basic rules of Christian conduct;
defies
the democratic freedom of expression; and insults every aspect of the

Re: [CTRL] Scientists seek 'super-soldiers' formula

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[CTRL] Carlyle Group set to invest $125 mn in India

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 Title: Report: 2 Bush Sons Lobbied 
Kuwait Date: 08/30/1993Publication: NewsdayAuthor: THE 
ASSOCIATED PRESS Report: 2 Bush Sons Lobbied Kuwait THE ASSOCIATED PRESS 
- Two sons of former President George Bush and several former top 
Bushadministration officials have tried to exploit Kuwait's sense 
ofgratitude toward Bush to gain business advantages, New Yorker 
magazinereported yesterday. Marvin and Neil Bush, former 
Secretary of StateJames A. Baker III and former White House 
chief of staff John Sununuhave sought out Kuwaiti officials 
on behalf of U.S. firms for post-gulfwar rebuilding, investigative 
journalist Seymour Hersh wrote. The storysays the former president has had 
no such dealings, nor in any way hassought to profit from his relationship 
with Kuwaiti leaders. It alsosaid no deals involving the former Bush 
officials or the family membershad as yet produced any business. 

According to Hersh, the lobbying beganalmost immediately after Bush 
visited Kuwait in April and was greeted asa hero for driving out Iraqi 
troops. Hersch wrote that Baker was hiredby the Houston-based Enron 
Corp., a large natural gas pipeline companythat wants to land the 
Kuwaiti contract for building a proposed$600-million electric power plant. 
Sununu, who left the White House in1991, was working on behalf of 
Westinghouse, which wants a part of a$1-billion Kuwaiti 
contract to build an electronic perimeter defensesystem, the report said. 
Neil Bush is involved with two privately 
heldHouston oil-equipment firms that have tried to do 
business in Kuwait,and Marvin Bush was hired as a consultant to 
Washington-based Murphy Associates, which also has sought work in 
Kuwait, Hersh wrote. Baker,Sununu and the Bush sons could not be located for 
comment yesterday.However, the Bush sons told the magazine through an 
intermediary theyhad no business dealings in Kuwait. A representative for 
Baker saidBaker was trying to direct some Kuwaiti business to the United 
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Ghost ship mystery deepens

PERTH, Australia --The riddle of an Indonesian-registered, Taiwan-owned trawler carrying several tons of rotting fish, seven toothbrushes, but no crew is baffling Australian police.

The ghost ship was found last week drifting aimlessly off the Western Australian coast and has since been towed to a quarantine bay close to the fishing port of Broome.

However, police say that despite an extensive search there is no sign of the ship's crew, or any indication of what might have happened to them.

We have insufficient evidence at this stage to even speculate on what has occurred, federal agent Bill Graham told reporters.

The mystery has deepened further after investigators revealed Tuesday that the ship, the High Aim 6, had recently been some 3,500 nautical miles (6,500 kilometers) away in the Marshall Islands, halfway between Papua New Guinea and Hawaii, The Australian newspaper reported.

Shortly afterwards the owner reported to U.S. authorities that the ship was missing after he had been unable to contact its captain.

Adding to the confusion are mixed reports as to the numbers of those onboard.

Toothbrushes

Police say the only clue as to how many crew the ship may have carried being the discovery of seven toothbrushes in the living quarters.

There is, however, no clue as to what might have happened to them, or why they might have abandoned an otherwise perfectly serviceable ship.

Police believe the captain of the vessel was from Taiwan, with Indonesians making up most of the rest of the crew.

An aerial and naval search of the surrounding seas did not yield any sign of life or any life vessels that might have come from the ship.

It is unclear whether the ship even carried life rafts.

Piracy

At this stage we have not located the crew or discovered any plausible reasons for their absence from the ship, Graham was quoted as saying.

The simple answer is we may never determine the fate of the crew, he added.

The vessel was found carrying more than three tons of rotting tuna and mackerel in its hold, and had plenty of fuel and food.

Officials say one possibility if that the boat piloted itself all the way from the Marshall Islands.

Another line of inquiry is focusing on the possibility of piracy, a growing problem in the region.

However, investigators say there is no sign of a struggle, or that anything might have been stolen from the boat.

Our main concern is for the safety of the crew, Graham told reporters. As time goes on the prospects of locating the crew alive decrease.

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Re: [CTRL] Scientists seek 'super-soldiers' formula

2003-01-15 Thread RobGee

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Jacob's Ladderis a movie to see and ponder. Terrific eye 
opener.
RobGo to the video store and try to find 
a video called "Jacob's Ladder". Watchit and then give a 
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[CTRL] Do Vegetarians Taste Like Chicken?

2003-01-15 Thread klewis

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Ron Marr
 Do Vegetarians Taste Like Chicken?

Being a Southern boy, I like chicken. I like it baked or broiled or
broasted or barbecued. It's hard to beat a mess of fowl that's been soaked
in buttermilk, rolled in corn meal, and dunked in the deep fryer. I've
never been quite certain whether chicken prepared in this manner really
tastes like chicken - you could probably batter-fry the backseat of a Chevy
and receive a similar gustatory sensation - but that's beside the point.

Chicken tastes like chicken, which tastes like fish, which tastes like
gator, which tastes like bull-frog, which tastes like snake, which tastes
like rabbit, which tastes like the aforementioned rear cushion of a 68'
Impala. The Fry Daddy is an equal opportunity appliance. If you really want
to mess people up when eating chicken, take a big bite and loudly exclaim
'ummm..ummm. Tastes like bull-frog.'

 I'm partial to the skin of the chicken, which is where the health giving nutrients 
inherent
to a heavy batter are located. I'm particularly partial to the skin if it's of the
'Extra Crispy' variety. The invention of 'Extra Crispy' is the reason that
I place the late Colonel Harlan Sanders, founder of Kentucky Fried Chicken,
on the same pedestal with such visionaries and humanitarians as Henry Ford,
Mother Teresa, and Rush Limbaugh.

Some folks went weepy when Princess Diana
slammed into a bridge. Others rent their clothes when John John Kennedy
splashed into the Atlantic. Millions mourned because Elvis got all
drugged-up and fell off the toilet.  Me...I shed a tear when Colonel
Sanders went to that big ol' red and white revolving bucket in the sky.

That's why I'm offended, on a spiritual level, that the fine culinary
institution which bears the Colonel's name and visage is under attack by
the heinous miscreants known as People For The Ethical Treatment of
Animals.  PETA is launching a boycott against KFC's parent company [Yum
Brands of Louisville, Ky., and no, I didn't make up that name] with
allegations of animal-rights abuses. PETA is whining that KFC chickens
don't have nice living quarters [no maids...no satellite dish] and are sent
to their reward in a barbarous manner.  Since PETA people consider the mere
consumption of a critter an animal-rights abuse, I put little faith in
their claims.

 Instead, I will side with Yum Brands, as they have a stellar
track record in regard to gastronomic principle. Along with KFC, the
company owns Pizza Hut, Taco Bell and Long John Silver. These are all fine
firms, but I'm particularly fond of the latter, assuming of course that
they still give out flimsy paper pirate hats and eye patches. One cannot
help but enjoy a blood-thirsty buccaneer motif while eating deep-sea
denizens prepared in boiling oil. Personally, I revel in donning such
apparel and yelling 'Argh...Ahoy Matey' at highly inappropriate times.
This may explain why I don't have a lot of second dates.

PETA folks
though...they're a soy and tofu, 'bless the beasts and children' kind of
clan with zero regard for pirate costumes or the blessed memory of kindly
old Southern Colonels. They don't like to chow down on anything with a
face, and right there is a sign of severe mental dysfunction. They pretend
to be concerned about the 'rights' of all living things, which is pretty
funny since it was recently reported that the group publicly gives money to
domestic terrorist organizations such as the Earth Liberation Front.

 I really respect an outfit which places the entitlements of moles, rats,
possums, crabs, tapeworms and barnyard birds above those of humans who
could well be burned alive when the E.L.F crowd torches their mountain-side
condo.  PETA is largely supported by Hollywood celebrities and Democratic
sympathizers. Since these sub-cultures are usually of a pacifist mindset,
it only makes sense that they would advocate giving Foghorn Leghorn the
right to vote, buy beer, and receive government subsidized tattoo removal.
Their commonalties with chickens are readily apparent, once again proving
the old adage that 'it takes one to know one.'  Because of this insidious
boycott against the legacy of the Colonel, I plan on eating at KFC as often
as possible. They offer a dandy buffet for about seven bucks. It features
not only all the batter-fried chicken skin you can swallow, but also their
famous mashed taters, gravy, and a host of other Epicurean delights. PETA's
rationale that KFC's crude and ineffective electric stunning and
throat-slitting of chickens is inhumane will only lead me to order more
Extra Crispy.  Frankly, that electric stunning bit strikes me as an awful
lot of unnecessary work. When I was a kid we would just slap Henny Penny on
a stump and whack her head off with a hatchet. It's fairly interesting
work, as the decapitated fowl nearly always makes a mad, spurting, flapping
dash of 30 or 40 feet before succumbing to the noggin-ectomy procedure.

Nature is

[CTRL] Michel Chossudovsky on HAARP~and an observation or two

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Science: Michel Chossudovsky on HAARPPosted by: souljah on Jan 11, 2003 - 01:07 PM
I travelled, by backpack, some 12,500 miles this last year and it took methrough Colorado (home of the National Center for Atmospheric Researchand the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Agency), New Mexico, Arizona,California, Oregon, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Utah, and Nevada. What Iconsistently found was that a vast majority of the spraying going on wasin areas where weather builds exponentially: the west coast and theeastern slope of the Rockies for example. This does not fit thebiological agents theory but such weather modification could be used tomask other operations.Chaos science says there is symetry across scale, another way of saying,as above so below. Scientists have found this to be true in the way that'an' electron orbits a nucleus, like a planet orbiting the sun. Chaosscience also recognizes certain tenets that have long been the domain ofeastern 'mysticism,' like the idea that events and actions have effectson the space/time continuum that grow - that is the EFFECTS grow. It islike a ripple in a pond where in a few minutes, the outermost ring willbe enormously larger than at first. Also, if you stack 2X4's (for thoseof you that work with wood) so that the second from the bottom board ismerely a millimeter off center, it wouldn't seem like it would mean muchbut if you stack thirty this way your stack will fall. This is becausesmall differences mean more over space AND time.This is the essence of weather modification. Getting in place where weather systems grow exponentially, one can have a greater effect on the weather system as it travels further east, away from the Rockies for instance. It takes less energy, therefore less money to affect the weather this way.~Michel Chossudovsky on HAARPH.A.A.R.P.It's not only greenhouse gas emissions: Washington's new world order weaponshave the ability to trigger climate change.By Michel Chossudovsky - Professor of Economics, University of Ottawa andTFF associate, author of The Globalization of Poverty, second edition,Common Courage PressThe important debate on global warming under UN auspices provides but a partial picture of climate change; in addition to the devastating impacts of greenhouse gas emissions on the ozone layer, the World's climate can now be modified as part of a new generation of sophisticated "non-lethal weapons."Both the Americans and the Russians have developed capabilities to manipulate the World's climate.In the US, the technology is being perfected under the High-frequency Active Aural Research Program (HAARP) as part of the ("Star Wars") Strategic Defence Initiative (SDI). Recent scientific evidence suggests that HAARP is fully operational and has the ability of potentially triggering floods, droughts, hurricanes and earthquakes.HAARP IS A MASS DESTRUCTIVE WEAPON - NOT PART OF ANY NEGOTIATIONSFrom a military standpoint, HAARP is a weapon of mass destruction. Potentially, it constitutes an instrument of conquest capable of selectively destabilising agricultural and ecological systems of entire regions.While there is no evidence that this deadly technology has been used, surely the United Nations should be addressing the issue of "environmental warfare" alongside the debate on the climatic impacts of greenhouse gases.Despite a vast body of scientific knowledge, the issue of deliberate climatic manipulations for military use has never been explicitly part of the UN agenda on climate change. Neither the official delegations nor the environmental action groups participating in the Hague Conference on Climate Change (CO6) (November 2000) have raised the broad issue of "weather warfare" or "environmental modification techniques (ENMOD)" as relevant to an understanding of climate change.The clash between official negotiators, environmentalists and American business lobbies has centered on Washington's outright refusal to abide by commitments on carbon dioxide reduction targets under the 1997 Kyoto protocol.(1) The impacts of military technologies on the World's climate are not an object of discussion or concern. Narrowly confined to greenhouse gases, the ongoing debate on climate change serves Washington's strategic and defense objectives."WEATHER WARFARE"World renowned scientist Dr. Rosalie Bertell confirms that "US military scientists are working on weather systems as a potential weapon. The methods include the enhancing of storms and the diverting of vapor rivers in the Earth's atmosphere to produce targeted droughts or floods."(2)Already in the 1970s, former National Security advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski had foreseen in his book "Between Two Ages" that:"Technology will make available, to the leaders of major nations, techniques for conducting secret warfare, of which only a bare minimum of the security forces need be

[CTRL] New OP

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Well, it is quite obvious that enough people are not buy what Bush Bandit's
are selling and folks are disassembling and understanding.  An op is being
put together in Cambridge/Harvard using the talents of folks like Chip
Berlet and Dan Sheehan. The objective of the OP is to interject into the
debate the classic left-right dichotomies and a new flurry of anti-Semitism
to sully conspiracy theory research.

They wish to keep us scratching the ground for a living, keep the left and
right fighting each other instead of looking up.

MHO
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[CTRL] Antonin Scalia - Supreme Court Evangelist

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>From democraticunderground.com


Antonin Scalia - Supreme Court Evangelist
January 15, 2003
By Patrick Ennis

U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia told a crowd at a Religious Freedom Day event in Fredericksburg, Va., on Monday, Jan. 13, that courts have gone too far to keep religion out of public schools and other forums. In typical evangelist fashion and sounding for all the world like theocratic pundit and fellow right-wing extremist Pat Buchanan, Scalia fed the crowd a mostly fact-free diet of propaganda calculated to mislead, and then to anger. Predictably, he offered little proof of this alleged secular onslaught by the judicial branch beyond last summer's wildly controversial decision by a three judge panel of the federal appeals court in San Francisco that the phrase under God in the Pledge of Allegiance violates the constitutional separation of church and state. 

Apparently, he neglected to mention the tellingly unpopular decision was almost immediately stayed  ordered not to take effect  by the same panel of judges, pending a review by the full appeals court, which is virtually certain to overturn it if only for the sake of political correctness. He also failed to mention that members of both houses of congress, in their never-ending quest for popularity at the expense of principle, quickly passed resolutions in support of The Pledge, including the religious reference, with near unanimity. Nor did he reference the growing number of states which, in the wake of Sept.11, 2001, now require that the Ten Commandments be hung on the walls of public schools. 

The chamber in which Scalia and his fellow Supreme Court jurists sit also displays a copy of the Ten Commandments on its wall. U.S. currency still features the phrase In God We Trust. SCOTUS has upheld the right of the Boy Scouts of America to discriminate, on religious grounds, against gays and atheists. Prayer in public schools is still (and always was) legal when done during lunch or free periods and not faculty led, and the Supreme Court ruled in 2001 that religious organizations such as the Good News Club have the same rights to use school facilities after school hours as any other group. The constitutionality of the official state motto of Ohio, With God, All Things Are Possible, has been affirmed, and just last year, Scalia and colleagues upheld the legality of private school vouchers from the government which can be used to help parents pay tuition at religious schools. 

A casual, unbiased observer might get the impression that religion in public life, far from being under assault, is on the offensive. So if Scalia believes that courts have gone too far to keep religion out of public life, one has to wonder just what it would take to satisfy him and his ilk. 

Scalia, referring to the lone protestor at the event, an intrepid man silently holding a sign promoting church/state separation, told the crowd I have no problem with that philosophy being adopted democratically. If the gentleman holding the sign would persuade all of you of that, then we could eliminate 'under God' from the Pledge of Allegiance. That could be democratically done. 

All of you? Not just a majority? Apparently, in Scalia's definition of democracy, a thing is only to be enacted if support is universal. No simple majority rules allowed. Perhaps this helps explain his vote on those Florida presidential ballot recounts in Dec. 2000. Of course, all of this ignores the larger point that one of the original, primary purposes of the Constitution was to protect the rights of the minority from the tyranny of the majority, something that ought to be common knowledge for every member of the Supreme Court, the sole purpose of which is to interpret said Constitution. 

The tactic, exaggerating or even inventing a threat within the minds of the faithful and then exploiting the fear and anger it generates, is hardly new; it a staple of religious activism, used to devastating effect in modern times by both the Christian Right and militant Islamists. The surprise is that in this age of information overload, with an American population better educated than any in history, such baseless fear mongering can still be so effective. But the proof is in the pudding  how many Americans still think that their children are not only being taught sexual positions and techniques in health class, but also being issued publicly procured condoms there in order to facilitate safe sex? How many think their children will be sent home from school if they show up wearing a t-shirt that says WWJD: What Would Jesus Do?, or for reading a bible during a lunch break? Ignorance is dangerous, precisely because it is so easy to exploit. 

Regardless of how you feel about the validity of church/state separation, it should be obvious that one cannot be both a Supreme Court Justice and a proselytizing evangelist. Scalia needs to choose one or

[CTRL] MRC Alert: ABC Again Hypes Small Anti-War Protests (fwd)

2003-01-15 Thread William Bacon

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I pledge Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to
the REPUBLIC for which it stands,  one Nation under God,indivisible,with
liberty and justice for all.

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ABC Again Hypes Small Anti-War Protests; NBC's Reality Check
from the Left on Bush's Tax Cut Plan; Time Magazine at Least
Showed Percentage Cuts; Stephanopoulos Recalls: We Were Fighting
Bush's 2001 Tax Cut; Very Strange Washington Post Clarification;
Fawning Tributes to Carter by Hopkins and Lange; Sheryl Crow's
Insight on How to Avoid War; Is West Wing Channeling Frustrations
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1) Three months ago, after a story on protesters against an Iraq
war, Peter Jennings promised: On this broadcast in the days
ahead, other voices. Those other voices have yet to get such
air time, but on Sunday night ABC devoted another piece to how, as
Judy Muller reported, thousands of Americans this weekend
demonstrated against war with Iraq and that more and more, these
crowds are filled with middle-class Americans who have never
demonstrated before. Muller hoped: As more and more troops head
overseas, more and more Americans may head for the streets.

2) After having relayed the class warfare and jealousy arguments
of liberals last week while having yet to outline the burden shift
and huge tax reductions promised in the Bush plan for those making
under $40,000, guess whose arguments NBC News on Monday night
decided to undermine in a reality check? Picking up Bush's claim
that 92 million Americans will keep an average of $1,083 more of
their own money, Lisa Myers maintained the claim is true,
experts say, but misleading. The same could be said of the story.

3) This week's Time asserted that although Bush touted the fact
that the average tax bill would shrink $1,083, almost half of all
filers would get reductions of less than $100 as the top 1%
would get breaks of $24,400, on average. Time's Bill Saporito
declared that the tax-cut benefits will be concentrated heavily
in the upper income brackets. But Time readers could see numbers
which Saporito didn't mention in his piece. A table accompanying
the story showed how those at lower incomes would get an equal or
greater percentage cut than those much wealthier.

4) Did George Stephanopoulos on Sunday accidentally blurt out how
he personally fought against President Bush's 2001 tax cut
proposal. Interviewing Tom Daschle on the January 12 This Week,
Stephanopoulos reminded Daschle that his criticism of the
unfairness of Bush's plan is similar to what you said when, ah,
we were fighting the original Bush tax package in 2001.

5) A very strange Clarification in Tuesday's Washington Post
which conceded an NBC transcript showed Al Sharpton did not refer
on Meet the Press to white trash politicians. But the tape was
far from inconclusive as the Post maintained.

6) Fawning tributes to Jimmy Carter from actor Anthony Hopkins and
actress Jessica Lange who emceed a concert tribute to Carter aired
on AE. Lange proclaimed: President Carter is a peace-maker. With
a moral compass he maneuvers around the hot spots of the world,
fearlessly voicing his opinion, untireringly focusing on injustice
and suffering.

7) During the American Music Awards shown Monday night on ABC,
Sheryl Crow came on stage twice wearing a T-shirt emblazoned with
a political message: War is not the answer. Off stage, she
offered this insight to reporters: I think war is never the
answer to solving any problems. The best way to solve problems is
to not have enemies.

8) The West Wing channeling true-life frustrations of the real
White House press corps? On last week's show reporter Danny
Concannon scolded White House Press Secretary CJ Cregg. He
demanded: Why

[CTRL] Do you read democratic underground?

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Here is a really good article:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/articles/03/01/14_underdogs.html

Strategies for Underdogs
January 14, 2003
By Ernest Partridge, The Crisis Papers

The democrats cowed, confused, incoherent too often end up speaking, when they speak at all, in the helium voice of Warner Bros. Pipsqueak. They hide, hoping that power, in the shape of a self-revealing grotesque (e.g., Trent Lott), will do all. It's a tactic of vacuous exhaustion, not a strategy of intellectual energy and moral direction. - David Remnick, The New Yorker January 6, 2003

Why on earth are the Democrats the minority party? It makes no sense. A large majority of American voters favor the Democrats on the issues. The Democrats are right with regard to morality, shared American political traditions, and the fundamental facts as disclosed by science and scholarship (see Taking Stock). Furthermore, the Republican economic policies plainly stand to benefit less than five percent of the population, to the detriment of all of the rest of us. Indeed, beyond the immediate future, the fortunate five-percent are also likely to lose in the economic disaster which will follow from the reckless and short-sighted policies of the Bush administration.

For their part, lacking morality, tradition and factual truth, the Republicans have money, media, and political offices. And they are using these advantages with devastating effectiveness. They will continue to prevail unless and until the opposition wises up and adopts new tactics. Abraham Lincoln, that revered Republican, had it right: The dogmas of the quiet past are inadequate to the stormy present. We must think anew and act anew... and then we shall save our country.

Exactly!

What, then, is the progressive opposition to do? Military history provides some suggestions:

Do not confront the enemy at his strength. If the enemy fortress is impregnable, it is folly to throw your troops against the wall. But if a frontal assault is bound to fail, that does not mean that the cause is lost. Merely that one must not attempt a frontal assault. Instead, do what Joshua did at Jericho: find some collaborators within that can be persuaded to betray the city. (Never mind the part about the crumbling walls, we're not relying on miracles here). Or do what Agamemnon did at Troy. Leave a wooden horse at the gate.

Do not fight the last war. After the First World War, the French built the Maginot line, vowing that the Germans would never again march across it. And so they didn't. Instead, they flew over it and drove around it, and France fell within weeks. When the Japanese destroyed the battleships at Pearl Harbor, the United States wisely replaced them, not with more battleships, but with aircraft carriers which, as Billy Mitchell proved, were the weapons of the future.

Use Judo tactics. Use the strength of the opponent to your advantage: King Henry V was outnumbered five to one at Agincourt, and his exhausted army faced that battle even as men wrecked upon a sand that look[ed] to be washed off the next tide. (Shakespeare, Henry V). So he enticed the French to charge downhill into a rain-soaked field, whereupon the English longbows brought down the first ranks of French cavalry and the following hordes piled upon them and crushed them into the mud. Far more Frenchmen were killed by the French that day, than by the English.

Use the Arrogance of the Foe to advantage. After the fall of France and the low countries, Hitler believed himself to be a military genius and his army to be invincible. So the Wehrmacht marched straight toward the trophy city of Stalingrad (City of Stalin), ill-prepared for the Russian winter. Hitler overextended his supply lines, failed to protect his rear and flanks, and the Sixth Army was cut-off and doomed. This was the decisive battle of the war. Afterward, Winston Churchill wry remarked, the Chancellor (Hitler) should have known that it snows in Russia.

No, we can't spend more than the mega-corporations and buy out the networks. So, like Agamemnon, Joshua, Henry, and Zhukov, we use our wits. Here are a few suggestions as to how we might do just that and save our country, which is now in greater peril than most of our compatriots dare to contemplate.

Take the Initiative. It's a fundamental rule in virtually all contests: the contestant who takes and maintains the offensive has the overwhelming advantage. In politics, the offensive simply means the opportunity to define the opponent and to select the issues. In the 2000 Presidential election, Al Gore (who never claimed to have invented the internet or to have discovered Love Canal) was successfully slandered as a liar and an egotist, while George Bush's manifest shortcomings (drug use, insider trading, desertion from military duty) somehow never became significant issues. (See Post Modern Politics). In the latest election, the

Re: [CTRL] Michel Chossudovsky on HAARP~and an observation or two

2003-01-15 Thread cal

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Posted
by: souljah on Jan 11, 2003 - 01:07 PM

  I travelled, by backpack, some 12,500 miles this last
  year..
  


35
miles a day, assuming no off days, and much of it through through the
mountains?Wow. That's
about twice what Iaverage with a 35 pound pack.

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[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Thank you Brian Quig for this new info: DAMNING EVIDENCE OF WARREN BUFFETT 911 ROLE!!

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In a message dated 1/15/03 9:54:53 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The government said it would play the cockpit voice recordings from Flight


 93 and the executive jet in open court, but asked Brinkema to keep both


 recordings and their transcripts from dissemination outside the courtroom.




 An official for NetJets, a company that sells shares in private business


 aircraft, confirmed that the plane tracking Flight 93 belonged to the


 company.



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Subject: [BCY2K] DAMNING EVIDENCE OF WARREN BUFFETT 911
ROLE!!
DAMNING EVIDENCE OF WARREN
BUFFETT 911 ROLE!!
Below is perhaps the most interesting assertion
about Warren Buffett. Was one of his planes
tracking a hijacked plane?
below is text of an AP article which verifies the
NetJets airplane which tracked
flight 93. Buffett is a co-owner of NetJets. (sorry, don't have the
original link... this was posted at
starttribune.com) -b
An official for NetJets, a company that sells
shares in private business aircraft,
confirmed that the plane tracking Flight 93 belonged to the company. (From AP article below)
Brian,
This is excellent work!! The second wealthiest billionaire in the
UNITED STATES has allot of explaining to do. Executive jets do not track
commercial aircraft. How can it be that NORAD does not make a 911 showing
but this private jet does?
This is one of the most important insights into the basic architecture of the
911 crimes. This alone could unravel these heinous crimes.
Clearly Buffet's MITRE has the technological know how to pull off remote
piloting of the 911 planes as well as the capability of shooting down FLIGHT
93. One engine of 93 was found six miles away from the crash site.
All of the professional liars of major media expect us to believe that this
engine bounced along the ground for those six miles!! Buffet's jet seems
to be the only culprit for the FLIGHT 93 shoot down.
Brian Downing Quig
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Government plans to use Flight 93
cockpit tapes in Moussaoui trial Associated Press
Published Aug 9, 2002
ALEXANDRIA, Va. -- Jurors in the trial of accused Sept. 11 conspirator
Zacarias Moussaoui will be drawn back to the day of the attacks
through videos of the burning and collapsing World Trade Center and
family pictures of victims.
The pictures would be augmented by dramatic cockpit voice recordings
from United Flight 93, as passengers apparently tried to wrest control
of the aircraft from hijackers, prosecutors said Thursday. The plane
crashed in Pennsylvania, killing 44, including the attackers.
Additional recordings would be played from the cockpit of an executive
jet that tracked Flight 93 on Sept. 11, according to written proposals
subject to approval by U.S. District Judge Leonie Brinkema.
``The government intends to introduce relevant portions of the
videotapes and photographs during both the guilt and penalty phases to
describe the murders at the WTC,'' the government pleading said.
``This will be particularly important during the penalty phase,'' when
prosecutors plan to seek the death penalty. The government said it
would introduce photographs of the victims, numbering more than 2,800
from the World Trade Center alone, to show the jury ``who was murdered
instead of merely hearing statistics.''
Moussaoui is representing himself and will have an opportunity to
reply.
Edward MacMahon, part of a court-appointed defense team that remains in
the case over

[CTRL] States Cry Wolf Over Budget Problems

2003-01-15 Thread flw

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State, local spending up despite downturn 'Dire' situation fed by
overambitious plans

By Dennis Cauchon
USA TODAY
1/15/03

State and local governments are spending more money and hiring
more people than last year, even as governors and mayors warn of
draconian cuts in public services because of the economic slump.

The National Governors Association says states face the ''most dire
fiscal situation since World War II.'' But a USA TODAY analysis shows
that most of the budget cuts being studied are not declines in spending
from last year. Instead, they are reductions in spending increases that
were approved when the U.S. economy was booming.

For example, Minnesota legislators approved spending based on an
expected 13.4% jump in tax revenue over the next two years. But tax
collections are expected to rise 6.6%. The result: $4.6 billion must be
cut.
But those cuts would be from planned spending; actual spending is still
expected to rise from present levels.

In fact, spending by state and local governments rose at an annual rate of
4.2% in the first nine months of 2002, slightly lower than during stronger
economic times, the federal government reports. After adjusting for
inflation, spending increased 3.3%.

The National Conference of State Legislatures says 31 states must close
a $17.5 billion gap by June 30, when the budget year ends in most states.
Forty-two state legislatures are convening this month, and budget problems
top the agenda in most.

Unlike the federal government, states must balance their budgets.

Governors and other top elected officials say the financial problems
could force layoffs of thousands of public workers and deep cuts in key
programs such as education, health care and road construction. But their
warnings mask the real situation.

California has the biggest state budget problem. Last week, Gov. Gray
Davis said the state must make up a $35 billion gap in the next 18 months.
He proposed higher taxes on the wealthy and trims in aid for schools and
health care for the poor and elderly.

Spending by state and local governments has grown nationwide without
interruption for decades, in good times and bad times alike. It has not
fallen
since 1944, and it has grown faster than the rate of inflation every year
since 1982. The rate of spending growth is down slightly from the late
1990s, but governments remain one of the healthiest parts of the economy.
They are growing at a time when corporate profits and cash flow are
declining.

State and local governments also have been doing more hiring than firing
since the economy weakened. States employed about 31,000 more workers
in December than a year earlier, an increase of 0.6%, the Bureau of Labor
Statistics reports. Local governments employed 189,000 more workers,
up 1.4%. Both are historic highs. By contrast, the private workforce
shrank by 467,000, a decrease of 0.4%.

Some social policy analysts fear that the move by many states to restrain
spending will damage efforts to reduce school class sizes, help welfare
recipients find jobs and expand health care for the poor.

''Government services are often a last resort and cannot be cut without
real suffering,'' says Margy Waller, a welfare reform expert at the
Brookings
Institution, a liberal think tank in Washington, D.C.

Not everyone agrees that spending cuts will have wide impact.

''This downturn is forcing us to look at things we probably should have
done earlier,'' says Colorado Gov. Bill Owens, who is chairman of the
Republican Governors Association. ''It's not easy. But I don't see this
as the beginning of a fiscal crisis affecting the American people.''

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[CTRL] They Thought They Were Free

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an excerpt from:
They Thought They Were Free
the germans 1933-45
Milton Mayer
The University of Chicago PressÂ©1955
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CHAPTER 20

Peoria uber Alles

Take Germany as a city cut off from the outside world by flood or fire
advancing from every direction. The mayor proclaims martial law, suspending
council debate. He mobilizes the populace, assigning each section its tasks.
Half the citizens are at once engaged directly in the public business. Every
private actâa telephone call, the use of an electric light, the service of a
pbysicianâbecomes a public act. Every private rightâto take a walk, to
attend a meeting, to operate a printing pressâbecomes a public Tight. Every
private institutionâthe hospital, the church, the clubâbecomes a public
institution. Here, although we never think to call it by any name but
pressure of necessity, we have the whole formula of totalitarianism.

The individual surrenders his individuality without a murmur, without,
indeed, a second thoughtâand not just his individual hobbies and tastes, but
his individual occupation, his individual family concerns, his individual
needs. The primordial community, the tribe, re-emerges, its preservation the
first function of all its members. Every normal personality of the day before
becomes an authoritarian personality. A few recalcitrants have to be
disciplined (vigorously, under the circumstances) for neglect or betrayal of
their duty. A few groups have to be watched or, if necessary, taken in
handâthe antisocial elements, the liberty-bowlers, the agitators among the
poor, and the known criminal gangs. For the rest of the citizensâ95 per cent
or so of the population-duty is now the central fact of life. They obey, at
first awkwardly but, surprisingly soon, spontaneously.

The community is suddenly an organism, a single body and a single soul,
consuming its members for its own purposes, For the duration of the emergency
the city does not exist for the citizen but the citizen for the city. The
harder the city is pressed, the harder its citizens work for it and the more
productive and efficient they become in its interest. Civic pride becomes the
highest pride, for the end purpose of all one's enormous efforts is the
preservation of the city. Conscientiousness is the highest virtue now, the
common good the highest good. (Is it any wonder that the German people, whose
nation disorders the world, have established the world's best-ordered cities,
the Milwaukees of America as well as of Germany?)

What if the emergency persists, not for weeks, months, or even years, but for
generations and for centuries? Unrelieved sacrifice requires compensation in
the only specie available. Peoriaâlet Peoria be our beleaguered cityâis
seen, little by little, to be different from Quincy, Springfield, Decatur. It
is something special to be a Peorian, something, if say so we must, heroic.
Tales of the founding of Peoria, once taken lightly, reveal that our city was
no ordinary city to begin with. Legends turn out to be true. No wonder Peoria
sticks it out, sees it through; see the stuff Peorians are made of, always
were. Peorians are superior people, superior blood and superior bone; their
survival proves it.

Their ancestors, they recall, established the city against the most fearful
odds; their descendants will deliver it against odds more fearful still.
There will be a New Peoria, a Greater Peoria, a Thousand-Year Peoria. The
world will ring with its timeless fame, kneel at its topless towers. And
Peoria will be a model to mankind; Peorian courage, Peorian endurance,
Peorian patriotism-these will be a model to a world that, because it has
never been tried like Peoria, has grown soft, decadent, plutocratic, has
fallen prey to rot and to the parasites that rot carries with it.

And whom, meanwhile, among Peorians, have we called to the helm in our hour,
our aeon, of struggle, in our place of danger?âPeorians who are tried and
true, men who have served their city and never disserved it, men who have
represented the best of Peoria to the world, who have always known its
glories and extolled them. We want the Old Guard, not the avant-garde; the
doers, not the donothings; the clear thinkers, not the skeptics; the bel
ievers in Peoria, not the complainers and the cranks. We don't want the
men who always wanted to make Peoria over and who see our trial as their
opportunity; this, of all times, is no time for divisiveness.

The things that a country honors will be cultivated there. What shall we
teach the young Peorians, who will follow us? What life shall we bold out to
them as the highest life? -Why, the life they will have to live to deliver
their city, in a Peoria oppressed and encircled. The flabby and effete must
go, and with it the dabbling, the faddism, the free thinking that squander
our people's time and their energies, divert them from the overriding need of
their city, and debase their tastes and their

[CTRL] Shrubery Under a Moon Shadow

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CounterPunch
http://www.counterpunch.org/madsen01142003.html
January 14, 2003

Moon Shadow

The Rev, Bush  North Korea

by WAYNE MADSEN

When President Bush added North Korea to his list of Axis of Evil nations, the
influence of the self-declared reincarnation of Jesus Christ, the Reverend Sun
Myung Moon of the Unification Church, loomed largely over the White House
decision-making process. The decision by Bush to throw into the trash heap of
history eight years of a joint American-South Korean-Japanese dialogue with the
reclusive Communist regime would ultimately result in Pyongyang returning to
using the rhetoric of bygone years. Just as the Bush administration reintroduced
to regular use the terms segregation, civil rights, and ban on abortions, the
terms demilitarized zone, Panmunjom, and 38th parallel would also re-enter
the American political lexicon.

Bush, a self-described born again Christian who has maintained close links to
Moon, hired David Frum as one of his speechwriters. Frum apparently came up
with the term axis of evil for Bush's 2002 State of the Union address but it
seems likely that Bush, heavily influenced by the propagandists of the rabidly
anti-Pyongyang Washington Times, decided North Korea's Dear Leader Kim
Jong Il was Satan reincarnate. Years before North Korea announced it was
restarting its nuclear enrichment facility at Yongbyon, The Washington Times
splashed front page headlines about North Korea being a threat while other
major newspapers and wire services treated the sensationalistic reports as a
non-story or more probably, plain disinformation masked as intelligence
reports and leaked by anti-Clinton Pentagon officials.

For twenty years, Moon's main policy laundering enterprise for his incessant
influence-peddling has been The Washington Times, the money-losing
newspaper he owns outright through New World Communications, Inc., the
paper's parent publishing company. New World also owns Insight Magazine,
The Middle East Times (based in Cairo), Zambezi Times (based in Lusaka,
Zambia), newspapers in Uruguay and Canada, a textbook publishing company
in Russia, and United Press International, the formerly well-respected wire
service that fell on hard financial times and was bailed out by Moon's seemingly
unlimited cash flows.

Next year, an Insight magazine reporter is poised to take over as President of
the venerable National Press Club in Washington. Thus, in a presidential
election year, a Moon employee will have influence  on what politicians and
candidates are selected for televised luncheon speeches carried by C-SPAN
and other cable news networks. Democrats and Greens should be very wary.
Some former Washington Times officials claim The Washington Times and its
affiliates are so tied in with Moon's agenda, its reporters and staff should register
with the Justice Department as foreign lobbyists under the Foreign Agents
Registration Act.

Moon launched The Washington Times in 1982, just a few years after one of
Moon's associates, Tongsun Park, was indicted for paying bribes to a number of
U.S. politicians. The paper, which has a dearth of advertising revenue, has lost
more than $1 billion dollars since its inception. Nevertheless, it has become a
powerful conservative voice throughout Republican ranks in both the White
House and Congress. In 1996, former President Bush, who has taken millions of
dollars in speaking fees from Moon, spoke before a Moon audience in Argentina
and declared Moon to be a man of vision. Bush 41, who could never really
grasp the vision thing, decided Moon had it.

Moon's own background, which reportedly includes links to both the Korean CIA
and its American counterpart, parallels that of other ethically-tainted individuals
who have once again found sanctuary in a Bush administration: Elliott Abrams,
John Poindexter, Otto Reich, and John Negroponte, all of Iran-contra infamy.
The Washington Times was a leading supporter of the Nicaraguan contras and
a chief apologist for the perpetrators of the arms-for-hostages scandal. Violating
one of the main canons of journalism -- that newspapers should not become
part of or create their own stories -- the Washington Times established the
Nicaraguan Freedom Fund to funnel hundreds of thousands of dollars to the
contras circumventing the Boland Amendment that prohibited Federal money for
the rightist guerrillas. Moon was also one of the few influential people who
continued to defend Richard Nixon even as the President was resigning over the
Watergate scandal.

In addition to his media empire, Moon also owns a Jonestown-type compound in
Brazil called New Hope. He has also invested in the sparsely-populated and
impoverished Marshall Islands. He has infiltrated one of the secessionist
movements fighting for independence for the Angolan enclave of Cabinda.
Moon's favorites in Africa included some of the CIA's most reliable clients:
UNITA in Angola and RENAMO in Mozambique. Moon's fronts even

[CTRL] Strategies for Underdogs

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As I was sending this others, I took the liberty to include the list in my list

http://www.democraticunderground.com/articles/03/01/14_underdogs.html

Strategies for Underdogs
January 14, 2003
By Ernest Partridge, The Crisis Papers

The democrats  cowed, confused, incoherent  too often end up speaking,
when they speak at all, in the helium voice of Warner Bros. Pipsqueak. They
hide, hoping that power, in the shape of a self-revealing grotesque (e.g., Trent
Lott), will do all. It's a tactic of vacuous exhaustion, not a strategy of intellectual
energy and moral direction. - David Remnick, The New Yorker January 6, 2003

Why on earth are the Democrats the minority party? It makes no sense. A large
majority of American voters favor the Democrats on the issues. The Democrats
are right with regard to morality, shared American political traditions, and the
fundamental facts as disclosed by science and scholarship (see Taking Stock).
Furthermore, the Republican economic policies plainly stand to benefit less than
five percent of the population, to the detriment of all of the rest of us. Indeed,
beyond the immediate future, the fortunate five-percent are also likely to lose in
the economic disaster which will follow from the reckless and short-sighted
policies of the Bush administration.

For their part, lacking morality, tradition and factual truth, the Republicans have
money, media, and political offices. And they are using these advantages with
devastating effectiveness. They will continue to prevail unless and until the
opposition wises up and adopts new tactics. Abraham Lincoln, that revered
Republican, had it right: The dogmas of the quiet past are inadequate to the
stormy present. We must think anew and act anew... and then we shall save our
country.

Exactly!

What, then, is the progressive opposition to do? Military history provides some
suggestions:

Do not confront the enemy at his strength. If the enemy fortress is impregnable,
it is folly to throw your troops against the wall. But if a frontal assault is bound to
fail, that does not mean that the cause is lost. Merely that one must not attempt
a frontal assault. Instead, do what Joshua did at Jericho: find some collaborators
within that can be persuaded to betray the city. (Never mind the part about the
crumbling walls, we're not relying on miracles here). Or do what Agamemnon did
at Troy. Leave a wooden horse at the gate.

Do not fight the last war. After the First World War, the French built the Maginot
line, vowing that the Germans would never again march across it. And so they
didn't. Instead, they flew over it and drove around it, and France fell within
weeks. When the Japanese destroyed the battleships at Pearl Harbor, the
United States wisely replaced them, not with more battleships, but with aircraft
carriers which, as Billy Mitchell proved, were the weapons of the future.

Use Judo tactics. Use the strength of the opponent to your advantage: King
Henry V was outnumbered five to one at Agincourt, and his exhausted army
faced that battle even as men wrecked upon a sand that look[ed] to be washed
off the next tide. (Shakespeare, Henry V). So he enticed the French to charge
downhill into a rain-soaked field, whereupon the English longbows brought down
the first ranks of French cavalry and the following hordes piled upon them and
crushed them into the mud. Far more Frenchmen were killed by the French that
day, than by the English.

Use the Arrogance of the Foe to advantage. After the fall of France and the low
countries, Hitler believed himself to be a military genius and his army to be
invincible. So the Wehrmacht marched straight toward the trophy city of
Stalingrad (City of Stalin), ill-prepared for the Russian winter. Hitler
overextended his supply lines, failed to protect his rear and flanks, and the Sixth
Army was cut-off and doomed. This was the decisive battle of the war.
Afterward, Winston Churchill wry remarked, the Chancellor (Hitler) should have
known that it snows in Russia.

No, we can't spend more than the mega-corporations and buy out the networks.
So, like Agamemnon, Joshua, Henry, and Zhukov, we use our wits. Here are a
few suggestions as to how we might do just that  and save our country, which
is now in greater peril than most of our compatriots dare to contemplate.

Take the Initiative. It's a fundamental rule in virtually all contests: the contestant
who takes and maintains the offensive has the overwhelming advantage. In
politics, the offensive simply means the opportunity to define the opponent and
to select the issues. In the 2000 Presidential election, Al Gore (who never
claimed to have invented the internet or to have discovered Love Canal) was
successfully slandered as a liar and an egotist, while George Bush's manifest
shortcomings (drug use, insider trading, desertion from military duty) somehow
never became significant issues. (See Post Modern Politics). In the latest
election, the Republicans

[CTRL] Take Back the Language

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THE GADFLY BYTES

November, 1998 -- December, 2002


http://gadfly.igc.org/eds/pol/newspeak.htm


NEWSPEAK LIVES!
By Ernest Partridge
www.igc.org/gadfly
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Published in The Online Journal, December 18, 2002,
Also Smirking Chimp, and several other websites


The purpose of Newspeak was not only to provide a medium of expression for
the [Party's] world-view and mental habits ..., but to make all other modes of
thought impossible. It was intended that when Newspeak had been adopted
once and for all and Oldspeak forgotten, a heretical thought - that is, a thought
diverging from the principles of [the Party] - should be literally unthinkable, at
least so far as thought is dependent on words. Its vocabulary was so
constructed as to give exact and often very subtle expression to every meaning
that a Party member could properly wish to express, while excluding all other
meanings and also the possibility of arriving at them by indirect methods. This
was done partly by the invention of new words, but chiefly by eliminating
undesirable words, and by stripping such words as remained of unorthodox
meanings Newspeak was designed not to extend but to diminish the range of
thought...

George Orwell, The Principles of Newspeak, 1984


Liberals who are wondering just what hit them in the past twenty years, will find
much of the answer to their bewilderment in George Orwell's 1984. That classic
presents an accurate description of the tactics that Right-Wing political
operatives have employed in their successful anathematization of the once-
honorific word, liberalism, and in their inappropriate adoption of the word
conservative.

In the political strife of the past generation, it is the liberals who have been the
authentic conservatives as they have treated the received political vocabulary
with respect and restraint, regarding the clarity afforded by ordinary language as
a necessary and valuable medium of civil and reasoned political debate.

In contrast, the so-called conservatives, unconstrained by such qualms, have
treated language as a political weapon. Because these antics have provoked
little if any protest from their opponents, the Right-Wing word-meisters have
utilized their semantic weapons with great skill and effect, and thus have
prevailed.

(Terminological note: Because the essential purpose of this essay is to examine
the use of the terms liberal and conservative in current political rhetoric, we
must use these words with great care and circumspection. Accordingly, we will
use instead, the terms the Right and the Left, mindful that these words are
also charged with emotive and ideological connotations. Indeed, it seems
impossible to avoid such connotations when referring to a political faction).


The Assault on (the word) Liberal.

The rhetoric of contemporary politics has not infected the pages of Webster's
Unabridged
Dictionary, which thus defines the political sense of liberal: Favoring reform or
progress, as in religion, education, etc.; specifically, favoring political reforms
tending toward democracy and personal freedom for the individual... Webster's
also notes the that the derivation of the word liberal is from the Latin liberalis:
of or pertaining to a freeman.

To this, we might add that modern liberals regard popularly elected government,
constrained by the rule of law, as a positive force for ensuring the welfare,
equality and rights of the citizens. Far from being anti-conservative, this notion
is enshrined in the Declaration of our political Independence (to secure these
rights, governments are instituted among men) and in the Preamble to our
Constitution, which proclaims that it is the legitimate function of governments to
form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility,
provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the
Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.

Somehow these authentically conservative principles of liberalism have been
obscured by the word-meisters of the Right, as they have associated the word
liberal with tax-and- spend big government, naive (bleeding heart)
benevolence toward the unworthy (e.g., welfare cheats), and bumbling,
bureaucratic interference in enlightened private enterprise.

This semantic coup has been so successful that in political rhetoric liberal has
become an abusive hot button. Just consider the recent election. In TV spot
advertisements (now the dominant arena of political debate,) the word liberal
is splashed and shouted, like a witch's curse, over the name of the (generally
Democratic) target candidates. Liberal! Nancy Pelosi, Liberal! Barbara Boxer,
Liberal! Paul Wellstone. No elaboration is offered of just what the word is
supposed to mean. No need for that, since the cognitive content of the term has
long since been drained away, leaving a shell of invective. Thus the transformed
word, liberal, becomes a political weapon - like a piece of rotten

[CTRL] Revisions in CCW Laws

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States Reconsider Limits On Law-Abiding Gun Owners
By Jeff Johnson
CNSNews.com Congressional Bureau Chief
January 15, 2003
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=\Culture\archive\200301\CUL2
0030115c.html
Capitol Hill (CNSNews.com) - As violent crime rates continue to drop in states
that allow citizens to carry concealed firearms, some of those states are
reconsidering the limits they place on that constitutional right.

Citizens of Virginia who hold a valid carry concealed weapons (CCW) permit
will officially be allowed to possess their weapons in state parks beginning Feb.
12, 2003.

Gov. Mark Warner (D) ordered the policy change Sept. 23, 2002, after the
commonwealth's attorney general, Jerry Kilgore (R), determined that the Virginia
Department of Conservation and Recreation had exceeded its statutory
authority by prohibiting legally possessed firearms.

Anti-gun activists decried the move.

We could have an incident with these concealed weapons people, said Jim
Sollow, board chairman of Virginians Against Handgun Violence. When people
have these weapons, our concern is that they tend to do dumb things with
them.

But Erich Pratt with Gun Owners of America told CNSNews.com there's nothing
dumb about defending oneself from a deadly criminal attack.

Women have been raped and murdered in parks, so I think they would want to
have a firearm for protection, he said. You also have cases where people who
are out in the parks have been attacked by a small gang of people, and [the
criminals] will be armed despite any type of ban.

Pratt also argued that CCW permit holders are typically some of the most
responsible and well behaved of citizens. The statistics appear to bear that out.

Virginia issued 172,347 CCW permits between July 1995 and April 2002.

During that same period, 0.2 percent of those permits (372) were revoked for
any reason, including crimes committed that did or did not involve a firearm,
medical deficiencies and individuals who moved out of state but did not
surrender their permits. The average number of CCW permit revocations
nationwide is 0.5 percent.

Despite those figures, Sollow questioned the need for private citizens to be
armed in the parks.

The other side couldn't say of anybody being assaulted or attacked or anything
in a park where a gun, had they used it properly, would have warded off the bad
guy, he claimed.

But an unarmed park visitor was killed during an argument at Holliday Lake
State Park in Appomattox County in the early 1990s. Pratt noted that there are
other incidents of violence in parks, but they often go unreported.

He said many citizens who merely display a gun to ward off criminals, but don't
have to fire it, do not notify police for fear of harassment. That, Pratt added,
makes it more difficult to track defensive uses of firearms.

In the fall 1995 issue of the Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology,
researchers Gary Kleck and Marc Gertz reported the findings of their surveys on
defensive gun uses in an article entitled Armed Resistance to Crime: The
Prevalence and Nature of Self-Defense With a Gun.

The pair determined that citizens displayed firearms, threatened the use of those
firearms, aimed firearms at criminals, fired at criminals or actually shot criminals
to stop crimes in progress 2.5 million times annually.

Virginia is not the only state to give its residents more leeway in carrying
revolvers and pistols for self- defense.

We are seeing a tidal wave across the nation of different states that are making
it easier for citizens to carry concealed, Pratt said, noting that 44 states have
some form of CCW law, even though roughly 12 routinely deny most
applications.

However strict or permissive the law may be, they are all heading in one
direction, and that is to liberalize gun ownership, he said.

In fact, former Michigan Gov. John Engler (R) signed a law his last full day in
office, Dec. 31, 2001, easing the restrictions on CCW permit holders in that
state.

Among the changes, permit holders may carry in restaurants that derive less
than half their profits from alcohol sales (but may not consume alcohol while
carrying) and may carry their guns onto the parking lots of many locations - like
schools, churches and hospitals - even though they are prohibited from taking
the weapons inside.

Pratt said any expansion of the state's recognition of their citizens' right to self-
defense is good, but he noted that such safety-free zones advertise the fact
that patrons are defenseless.

That's a wide-open invitation to thugs who, more than likely, are not going to
face any resistance when they go into a church or school, he said. It's simply
ridiculous to say that a responsible teacher or principal or, in the case of a
church, any responsible adult cannot, by law, have a gun to protect either
themselves, their families or their children.

Only California, Iowa, Maryland, Minnesota, New Jersey and New York do not
recognize an individual

[CTRL] MILOSEVIC: Because you were involved in the murder of Arkan? K-2: Yes.

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MILOSEVIC'S RUTHLESSNESS Over the winter recess, Milosevic must 
have re-thought his abusive style of cross examination. With the 
first witnesses of 2003, his questions were largely relevant and 
less argumentative than before. Though he still could not resist 
making occasional comments on the testimony, they were less 
personally abusive. Lest anyone think he has turned over a new leaf, 
however, they need only consider his first questions to the first 
witness of 2003: 
MILOSEVIC: "[In your statement] you ask for all necessary 
measures to protect your identification . . . as you say your life 
is in grave danger . . . . Do you still believe your life is in 
grave danger in view of the fact that it has been 2 1/2 years since 
your statement?" K-2: "Yes." MILOSEVIC: "Is the reason you believe 
your life is in danger your statement to [OTP] investigators or the 
fact that some people link you to the killing of Arkan [Zelko 
Raznatovic]? Why is your life in danger?" K-2 (apparently unaware of 
Milosevic's intention to expose his identity): "Now, for both 
reasons." 
Though lead prosecutor Geoffrey Nice interrupted to caution the 
Court that Milosevic's questioning "may be a subtle way to identify 
the witness publicly," the Court allowed Milosevic to continue. 
MILOSEVIC: "Because you were involved in the murder of Arkan?" 
K-2: "Yes." 
It took several more questions about his current place of 
residence and employment before the witness himself advised the 
Court he could no longer answer publicly without revealing his 
identity and the Court closed the proceedings. 
While Milosevic may be conducting a more relevant cross 
examination, his intentional attempt to expose K-2's identity to 
those from whom he is in grave danger reveals that Milosevic 
continues to play by his own rules. As his international 
interlocutors learned, the smooth, sophisticated demeanor covers an 
endemic ruthlessness. His whole history of achieving and holding 
power attests to this. 
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Which makes me wonder if the trans-genic hog research has yet put anything
interesting on the market. Last I heard they were doing RD on splicing
human genes into hogs to improve their porkishness. John Hagee (Porcus
Maximus of Texas) and other tele-evangelical swine should be careful about
leaving used hankies around with tissue and DNA in them.

POC
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 Ron Marr
  Do Vegetarians Taste Like Chicken?

 Being a Southern boy, I like chicken. I like it baked or broiled or
 broasted or barbecued. It's hard to beat a mess of fowl that's been soaked
 in buttermilk, rolled in corn meal, and dunked in the deep fryer. I've
 never been quite certain whether chicken prepared in this manner really
 tastes like chicken - you could probably batter-fry the backseat of a Chevy
 and receive a similar gustatory sensation - but that's beside the point.

 Chicken tastes like chicken, which tastes like fish, which tastes like
 gator, which tastes like bull-frog, which tastes like snake, which tastes
 like rabbit, which tastes like the aforementioned rear cushion of a 68'
 Impala. The Fry Daddy is an equal opportunity appliance. If you really want
 to mess people up when eating chicken, take a big bite and loudly exclaim
 'ummm..ummm. Tastes like bull-frog.'

  I'm partial to the skin of the chicken, which is where the health giving nutrients 
inherent
 to a heavy batter are located. I'm particularly partial to the skin if it's of the
 'Extra Crispy' variety. The invention of 'Extra Crispy' is the reason that
 I place the late Colonel Harlan Sanders, founder of Kentucky Fried Chicken,
 on the same pedestal with such visionaries and humanitarians as Henry Ford,
 Mother Teresa, and Rush Limbaugh.

 Some folks went weepy when Princess Diana
 slammed into a bridge. Others rent their clothes when John John Kennedy
 splashed into the Atlantic. Millions mourned because Elvis got all
 drugged-up and fell off the toilet.  Me...I shed a tear when Colonel
 Sanders went to that big ol' red and white revolving bucket in the sky.

 That's why I'm offended, on a spiritual level, that the fine culinary
 institution which bears the Colonel's name and visage is under attack by
 the heinous miscreants known as People For The Ethical Treatment of
 Animals.  PETA is launching a boycott against KFC's parent company [Yum
 Brands of Louisville, Ky., and no, I didn't make up that name] with
 allegations of animal-rights abuses. PETA is whining that KFC chickens
 don't have nice living quarters [no maids...no satellite dish] and are sent
 to their reward in a barbarous manner.  Since PETA people consider the mere
 consumption of a critter an animal-rights abuse, I put little faith in
 their claims.

  Instead, I will side with Yum Brands, as they have a stellar
 track record in regard to gastronomic principle. Along with KFC, the
 company owns Pizza Hut, Taco Bell and Long John Silver. These are all fine
 firms, but I'm particularly fond of the latter, assuming of course that
 they still give out flimsy paper pirate hats and eye patches. One cannot
 help but enjoy a blood-thirsty buccaneer motif while eating deep-sea
 denizens prepared in boiling oil. Personally, I revel in donning such
 apparel and yelling 'Argh...Ahoy Matey' at highly inappropriate times.
 This may explain why I don't have a lot of second dates.

 PETA folks
 though...they're a soy and tofu, 'bless the beasts and children' kind of
 clan with zero regard for pirate costumes or the blessed memory of kindly
 old Southern Colonels. They don't like to chow down on anything with a
 face, and right there is a sign of severe mental dysfunction. They pretend
 to be concerned about the 'rights' of all living things, which is pretty
 funny since it was recently reported that the group publicly gives money to
 domestic terrorist organizations such as the Earth Liberation Front.

  I really respect an outfit which places the entitlements of moles, rats,
 possums, crabs, tapeworms and barnyard birds above those of humans who
 could well be burned alive when the E.L.F crowd torches their mountain-side
 condo.  PETA is largely supported by Hollywood celebrities and Democratic
 sympathizers. Since these sub-cultures are usually of a pacifist mindset,
 it only makes sense that they would advocate giving Foghorn Leghorn the
 right to vote, buy beer, and receive government subsidized tattoo removal.
 Their commonalties with chickens are readily apparent, once again proving
 the old adage that 'it takes one to know one.'  Because of this insidious
 boycott against the legacy of the Colonel, I plan on eating at KFC as often
 as possible. They offer a dandy buffet for about seven bucks. It features
 not only all the batter-fried chicken skin you can swallow, but also their
 famous mashed taters, gravy, and a host of other Epicurean

[CTRL] Draft Bill Ruffles Hawks

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Rangel's Military Draft Bill Ruffles Hawks'

Feathers

A New Year's Eve commentary in the New York Times, Bring Back the Draft,
by Rep. Charles Rangel (D-N.Y.), the ranking Democrat on the Ways and
Means Committee and a senior member of the Black Caucus, has the pro-Iraq
war chicken-hawks, and their allies among the uniformed utopians up in
arms. Rangel said he would introduce legislation to restore the military drafta
promise on which he delivered on Jan. 7, the first day of the 108th Congress.
Even before the bill was introduced, angry responses against Rangel, and
against Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.), also a senior member of the Black
Caucus, who supports the bill, appeared in the financier oligarchy's Wall Street
Journal, accusing them of political opportunism and playing race politics; and
came from Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, who implied that Rangel is
ignorant of the matters of the professional military.

Apparently, Rangel, who is a decorated Korean War veteran and, during the
Vietnam War, was general counsel to the National Advisory Commission on
Selective Service (the draft board), hit a nerve.

Rangel's move was a welcome dose of reality, as a flood of daily headlines were
chronicling the Rumsfeld-ordered deployments of U.S. troops to the Middle East,
to take up positions that would be used in a war against Iraq. Well-informed
Washington sources told EIR that the total of forces, already on location,
combined with those deployments which have been announced and are planned
for the immediate future, adds up to 100,000 American troopscombat and
support. Behind the scenes in Washington, the sources said, complaints are
growing that this deployment stretches the violation of separation of powers
between the Executive and Congress on fighting a war, to the limit. Public
criticism may break out, these sources said.

Rangel's commentary has caused a furor among pro- war utopians, precisely
because most of the war- mongers are chicken-hawks, who have no military
experience, and who are in no danger of having their own children involved in a
war. Rangel's article noted: President Bush and his Administration have
declared a war against terrorism that may soon involve sending thousands of
American troops into combat in Iraq. I voted against the Congressional
resolution giving the President authority to carry out this war an engagement
that would dwarf our military efforts to find Osama bin Laden and bring him to
justice.

But as a combat veteran of the Korean conflict, I believe that if we are going to
send our children to war, the governing principle must be that of shared
sacrifice Yet the Congress that voted overwhelmingly to allow the use of force
in Iraq includes only one member who has a child in the enlisted ranks of the
military I believe that if those calling for war knew that their children were 
likely
to be required to serveand to be placed in harm's way there would be more
caution and a greater willingess to work with the international community in
dealing with Iraq. A renewed draft will help bring a greater appreciation of the
consequences of decisions to go to war

A disproportionate number of the poor and members of minority groups make
up the enlisted ranks of the military, while the most privileged Americans are
under-represented or absent

We need to return to the tradition of the citizen soldierwith alternative national
service required for those who cannot serve because of physical limitations or
reasons of conscience (emphasis added).

Blasting the Chicken-Hawks
Rangel, who was awarded a Purple Heart and a Bronze Star for his service,
went even further in several television and radio interviews on Jan. 3. Speaking
on National Public Radio, he said, If indeed the President believes war is
necessary in terms of our national welfare, then he has to believe that sacrifices
have to be made, and those sacrifices have to be shared. We have to kick up a
notch the sense of patriotism and the sense of obligation.

When the host of NBC's Today Show asked, Are you talking of all those people
in the higher echelon, all the way up to the top, not being aware of the cost of
minorities? Are you saying that? Rangel replied: After you get past Colin
Powell, they haven't the slightest clue as to the pain of war, the sacrifice of war.

Wait a minute! the interviewer interrupted. You're talking about Donald
Rumsfeld, the Defense Secretary. You're saying he doesn't have an idea of the
cost, the pain of war? The President of the United States?

Rangel responded: Well, when Rumsfeld gets on television and says, 'We can
fight more than one war at a time; we can fight in North Korea; we can fight in
Afghanistan; we can fight'when the President of the United States says, 'I've
made a New Year's resolution to eat less cheeseburgers, and not to go to war in
Iraq

[CTRL] Were you scared? Were you ready to go to war? Ready to sacrifice freedom for security?

Title: Were you scared? Were you ready to go to war? Ready to sacrifice freedom for security?
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Missing Plague Accounted For
FBI Accounts for All Bacteria Samples Reported Missing From Texas Lab
From Wire Reports
L U B B O C K, Texas, Jan. 15

All vials of bubonic plague reported missing from Texas Tech University Health Science Center have been accounted for, officials said today.

About 30 vials containing samples of the lethal bacteria were thought to have disappeared from Texas Tech University.

We have accounted for all those missing vials and we have determined there is no danger to public safety whatsoever, said Guadelupe Gonzalez, the special agent in charge of the FBI's Dallas office.

Gonzalez declined to say whether the material had been stolen or merely misplaced. A criminal investigation into the matter was continuing, he said.

The Lubbock Avalanche-Journal's Web site, quoting unidentified law enforcement sources, said the vials were noticed missing earlier this week, but the incident was not reported to police until Tuesday. Sixty investigators from various agencies converged on the medical school campus, the newspaper said.

The school said the research was being conducted by Dr. Thomas Butler, chief of its infectious disease division, who has been studying the plague for more than 25 years.

White House officials had been briefed on the plague reports, said spokesman Ari Fleischer.

Disease Treatable With Antibiotics

Bubonic plague is an infectious disease of animals and humans caused by a bacterium named Yersinia pestis. People usually get it from being bitten by a rodent flea that is carrying the plague bacterium or by handling an infected animal.

The disease can be treated with antibiotics. Health officials say 10 to 20 people in the United States contract plague each year. About one in seven U.S. cases is fatal.

Lubbock, Texas, is in northwest Texas, south of Amarillo.

Plague outbreaks have killed about 200 million people in the past 1,500 years. The most infamous, the Black Death, started in 1347, killing 25 million people in Europe and 13 million in the Middle East and China within five years.

Plague along with anthrax, smallpox and a handful of other deadly agents is on a short watch list distributed by the federal government, which wants to make sure doctors and hospitals recognize a bioterror attack quickly.

But plague's symptoms can be difficult to spot. The disease is characterized by swelling, weakness and fever, symptoms that can signal anything from flu to West Nile virus.

Bubonic plague is not contagious. But left untreated, it can transform into pneumonic plague, a more dangerous disease that can be spread from person to person.

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New York Times Thomas Friedman: No problem with a war for oil

By Kate Randall and Barry Grey
15 January 2003

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In recent weeks popular opposition to the impending war against Iraq has grown
not only internationally, but also within the US. Even polls published by the pro-
war American media show a sharp drop in support for Bushs war drive. A CBS
News poll published January 7 reported that only 29 percent of Americans
support unilateral US military action against Iraq, while 63 percent favor a
diplomatic solution.

Nevertheless, the Bush administration continues its feverish military buildup in
the Persian Gulf, with an estimated 160,000 troops now present or en route to
the area. According to the same CBS poll, while a majority of Americans oppose
a war, 74 percent believe it is inevitablea feeling that owes a great deal to the
prostration of the Democratic Party to the Bush White House and its general
support for the administrations war policy.

The governments justification for an invasionbased on the claim that Iraq
poses an imminent military threatis becoming more and more threadbare.
There is open discussion in the media that the failure of UN inspectors to find
evidence of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction is fueling public skepticism
toward the administrations war agitation.

Recent events in Korea have further undermined the White House propaganda
campaign. Government spokesmen have been unable to explain the disparity
between American policy toward North Korea and the administrations war drive
against Iraq. At least publicly, the administration insists that North Koreawhich
is openly developing a nuclear weapons capacityis to be dealt with through
diplomatic channels, while Iraqwhere there is no evidence of nuclear
weaponsis to be bombed, invaded and militarily occupied.

In the face of the failure of the government/media campaign to build mass
support for a US invasion of Iraq, New York Times foreign affairs columnist
Thomas Friedman has felt obliged to come to the aid of the Bush war cabal by
proposing a shift in its propaganda. Hence Friedmans January 5 column
headlined A War for Oil?

In this thoroughly cynical piece, Friedman concedes what is obvious to anyone
who has followed the US military buildup against Iraq with any objectivity: Bushs
plan to invade the country is driven, above all, by a determination to seize
control of Iraqi oil.

The column is by no means the first effort by Friedman to provide a cover of
legitimacy and even humaneness to Washingtons war drive. On December 1,
for example, he authored a column in which he urged his readers to pay no
attention to the inspections taking place in Iraq. Instead, to fabricate a pretext
for war, he advocated that the United Nations, at the bidding of the US, kidnap
Iraqi scientists, remove them and their families from Iraq, and allow American
interrogators to extract proof of weapons of mass destruction from their
captives. [See Inventing a pretext for war against IraqFriedman of the Times
executes an assignment for the Pentagon http://
www.wsws.org/articles/2002/dec2002/frie-d03.shtml]

At that time, Friedman had no quarrel with the official line that Iraq represented
an imminent threat to the safety of Americans. But, despite the columnists
urging, millions of Americans have been paying attention to the weapons
inspectionsas well as the rising toll of layoffs and pay cuts at homeand have
grown increasingly hostile to the administrations obsession with war, as well as
to Bush himself.

Thus the liberal war hawk Friedman feels compelled to shore up the flagging
credibility of the Bush administrations case for war. Is the war that the Bush
team is preparing to launch in Iraq really a war for oil? he asks. My short
answer is yes. Any war we launch in Iraq will certainly bein part about oil. To
deny that is laughable.

Friedman admits, quite openly, that the official reasons given by the government
for a war against Iraq are lies, and crude ones at that. He writes that Bushs
recent attempt to hype the Iraqi threat by saying that an Iraqi attack on
Americawhich is most unlikelywould cripple our economy was
embarrassing.

He continues: Lets cut the nonsense. The primary reason the Bush team is
more focused on Saddam [than on North Korea] is because if he were to
acquire weapons of mass destruction, it might give him the leverage he has long
soughtnot to attack us, but to extend his influence over the worlds largest
source of oil, the Persian Gulf.

Thus, having acknowledged that the US government is lying to the American
people and the world, Friedman seeks to fashion a new justification for war
against Iraq. It is not a matter of self- defense, or even countering something
Iraq has done. Rather, the country must be attacked and

[CTRL] Class Warfare Hits CA Colleges

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http://www.gooff.com/news/read.asp?ID=1747

California universities and public schools face massive budget cuts

By Kim Saito
15 January 2003
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Nearly 600,000 students are immediately confronting 10-15 percent fee
increases at all University of California (UC) and California State University (Cal
State) campuses as they return from winter break. The unprecedented midyear
action came as the result of emergency meetings held last month by higher
education officials responding to Governor Gray Daviss initial announcements
about the states projected $34.8 billion deficit over the next 18 months.

Just how big is the states deficit? As Herb Wesson, speaker of the State
Assembly, remarked, Thats a hole so deep and so vast that even if we fired
every single person on the state payrollevery park ranger, every college
professor and every Highway Patrol officerwe would still be more than $6
billion short.

The increases took effect January 3, 2003 at all Cal State University campuses
and UC Berkeley, which is on semester system. Fees will go up at all other UC
campuses, which operate on a quarterly system, in March 2003. The last time
fees were raised was in 1994.

On December 6, Governor Davis issued proposals for midyear revisions to the
2002-03 state budget to coincide with the opening of a Special Session that he
called to address the fiscal crisis. Twelve days later Davis adjusted his shortfall
estimate to almost $35 billion, almost 45 percent of the total level of $77 billion in
the General Fund spending on all programs approved in the 2002-03 Budget
Act. He then proposed an emergency $1.734 billion midyear spending reduction
in Proposition 98 programs, affecting education.

If California were a country, it would be the fifth- largest economy in the world,
surpassing France and Italy. Included among its 35 million residents, making it
the most populous state, are some of the nations richest and poorest. During
the dot.com boom, the number of overnight millionaires and multimillionaires
exploded. As a result, the state also grew suddenly wealthier from corporate
taxes and revenues from employee stock options from all the high-tech
companies based in Silicon Valley and the greater San Francisco area.

Over the recent period, several new campuses were built by Cal State and UC;
new public schools went up; class sizes were reduced; teacher pay increased;
public health facilities expanded; new roads were approved; and about 40,000
public service employees were added to the state payroll.

However, with the convergence now of a collapsing stock market, the energy
crisis and the high-tech bubble bursting, state revenues from capital gains and
stock option taxes fell over the past two years from $17 billion to $5 billion,
accounting for roughly half of the current deficit. But deficit spending is
prohibited under the states constitution.

During her address to the State Assembly, legislative analyst Elizabeth Hill said
the problem goes beyond the immediate deficit of the next year and a half. A
recent report says the state faces deficits of between $12 billion and $15 billion
annually for at least the next five years. Hill called the governors cuts credible
but also noted that they contain virtually no meaningful reductions in law
enforcement, including prisons.

California used to be the national model for accessibility and affordability to
higher education for working class and middle class students. But today with
soaring enrollment, impacted classes and now substantially higher feesa
college diploma is becoming out of reach for hundreds of thousands of young
people.

On December 16, the board of California State Universitythe nations largest
public university system, dubbed the peoples universityvoted to raise fees.
Protesting students outside the meeting where the decision was made held up
signs reading, Adding fees is not the answer and CSU students are the
working class of California.

The state universities are mandated to admit the top third of all high school
graduates. Its more prestigious counterpart, the UC, is required by the state to
accept the top 12 percent. The Policy Analysis for California Education, a
Stanford-based education policy research group, projects an additional 100,000
students will enter the CSU by 2010, while the UC faces a 40 percent jump in
students by the end of the decade.

CSU Chancellor Charles Reed said the system faces losing $60 million from its
annual $3 billion budget and may be forced to consider salary reductions, hiring
freezes, layoffs and even more fee increases. This year enrollment hit a record
406,896 students at its 23 campuses. For state residents, the increase raises
fees $72 per semester for undergraduates, from $1,428 to $1,572 per year, and
for graduate students, from $1,506 to $1,734 per year.

University of California will increase its fees by $135 for its 180,000 students.
That amounts to an 11.2 percent

Re: [CTRL] Antonin Scalia - Supreme Court Evangelist

2003-01-15 Thread Prudy L

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So if Scalia believes that courts have "gone too far" to keep religion out of public life, one has to wonder just what it would take to satisfy him and his ilk. 


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2003-01-15 Thread Jei

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Friday, January 10, 2003 (SF Gate)

Happy Imbeciles At War
Massive U.S. military buildup, billions of dollars, a useless enemy, and
no one seems to know why

EXCERPT:
  We are, in short, going to attack and massacre Iraq for the oil
  reserves, to protect America's corporate interests, to feed the
  gaping maw of the military-industrial complex.  Same as it ever
  was.

By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist

This is not a war.  Iraq will not be a war.  Do we understand this?  We
do not seem to understand this.  This is heavily corporatized power
brokers killing each other for oil and capital.  Oh yes it is.

Let's be perfectly clear.  You cannot have a war when the so-called enemy
has done nothing to provoke you and is absolutely no threat to your
national safety and has no significant military force and has negligible
chance of even setting off a firecracker near your own overwhelming death
machines, and whose only weapons of minimal destruction are the rusty
short-range warheads and biochemical agents we sold him 20 years ago, and
kept selling to him, even after we knew he was gassing his own people.

You cannot have a war when there is nothing to fight against, when it's
essentially going to be a huge U.S. military stomping/bombing exercise,
when, just like Afghanistan, we stand to suffer zero U.S. casualties
(except for those we seem to kill ourselves), and we just bomb and bomb
and kill and kill and shrug.

Let us look closer: The U.S. buildup for war with Iraq is the biggest in
decades. The Iraq operation, in the words of Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney,
will be the most massive precision air campaign in history, because,
well, because we can.  Because we want to annihilate everything as fast
and ruthlessly as possible, simply because the longer such an operation
takes and the more expensive and obviously pointless it becomes, the more
everyday citizens snap out of it and begin to say, wait, why are we doing
this again?

Saddam's meager military, let us be reminded, is a tiny quivering
fraction of what it was 10 years ago during Desert Storm, and even then
it took U.S. forces less than four days to almost completely annihilate
it.

Now it's even weaker, due to ongoing sanctions and U.N. oversight and a
decade of continuous U.S.-led bombing raids on Iraqi targets you never
read about. Hell, this time we should have those thousands of pesky Iraqi
soldiers and innocent civilians dead and slaughtered in a weekend.

This is a Mack truck versus a Pinto.  This is an F-16 versus a paper
airplane, a Tomahawk missile versus a spit wad.  There is no contest.
War is exactly the wrong term.  The U.S. attack on Iraq will be, of
course, a massacre.  Go team.

Now let's say you sense this all to be true.  Let's say you have a queasy
feeling deep in your gut as you realize no one is talking about exactly
why we need to launch a second simultaneous war to go along with the
unwinnable assault we're still running in Afghanistan.

Remember Afghanistan?  Yes, we're still there, warring away.  Bombing and
attacking and killing.  Haven't caught a single al Qaeda leader of note
yet.  That looks bad for Dubya.  Killed a few thousand civilians though.
Shrug.

So, let's boil it down: Why go to war with Iraq?  Can't find Osama, is
one reason.  That looks bad.  Really, really want to steal all that
delicious oil for ShrubCo, is another.  Saddam is clearly a very bad guy
who kills his own people and snickers in America's general direction, is
a third. But then again, so are at least a half-dozen other vile tyrants
of the world. Volatile, nuke-ready North Korea?  Let's open some talks.
Feeble, oil-ready Iraq? Let's massacre. Hmm.

Perhaps you wonder why no one is asking any of these questions, making
similar points.

Perhaps you wonder just where in the hell is the spineless major media in
all this, as they watch the chicken-hawk Shrubster himself, between golf
swings, announce how tens of thousands of American troops are being sent
to the Gulf alongside an enormous billion-dollar military buildup and
imminent gobs of heaping death raining down upon a paltry oppressed
nation and coming up next on CNN, we interview that dumb guy from Joe
Millionaire. Perfect.

Perhaps you wonder where is the national TV coverage of all those huge
anti-war protests, hundreds of thousands of people, all over the world,
from Spain to Berlin to New York to San Francisco.

Perhaps you wonder where are all the serious journalists, the
risk-taking news agencies pointing up the absurdity of it all, the
imminent horror, the outrage.  Could it be these news agencies are owned
by major conservative corporations? Could it be they're all terrified of
losing ratings, of saying something unpopular, of invoking Cheney's
wrath, of losing advertiser dollars and that ever-precious,
ever-dwindling dumbed-down audience? One guess.

And besides, who needs a reason for a massacre anymore?  This is the age
of the preemptive-strike, screw-you Bush

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Coverup alleged at UC weapons lab
Fired investigators say university hiding financial mess at Los Alamos
James Sterngold, Chronicle Staff Writer
Tuesday, January 14, 2003
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Los Angeles -- Two investigators fired after they found evidence of theft and
mismanagement at one of the nation's most sensitive nuclear weapons labs
charged Monday that the University of California is concealing the extent of
financial problems at the Los Alamos National Laboratory.

The account of financial improprieties at Los Alamos, given by the university's
own investigators, emerged as UC declared it has accounted for almost all of
the nearly $4 million in lost or stolen property at the nuclear weapons lab, which
is managed by the university for the U.S. Department of Energy. The university
insisted it has been swift and decisive in responding to the scandal.

But the two investigators said the university still is engaged in a coordinated
coverup of theft and abysmal accounting that involves far more money and goes
far deeper than UC has acknowledged.

Even some UC supporters said that if evidence of a coverup emerges, the
university could lose its historic contract for managing the nuclear weapons lab
at Los Alamos, in New Mexico, a facility that ushered in the atomic age six
decades ago.

It is incomprehensible that you could (account for) as much as they say, with
everything that I know is out there, said Glenn Walp, a former Pennsylvania
State Police commissioner and the leader of the Los Alamos lab's Office of
Security Inquiries until he was fired in November.

A GAME OF COVERUP?

It's my opinion that they're still in that game of trying to cover up. They don't
know. They just don't know, Walp said.

Allegations of credit card abuse, missing or stolen equipment and
mismanagement at Los Alamos surfaced publicly in late November when lab
officials fired Walp and Steven Doran, another former police officer hired by the
university to bring better security and oversight to the labs.

The firings led the Energy Department and the House Energy and Commerce
Committee to start independent reviews and led to the resignations and
transfers of several top officials at Los Alamos.

UC CONTRACT THREATENED

Secretary of Energy Spencer Abraham warned UC President Richard Atkinson
that the investigations threaten the university's contract to manage Los Alamos.
UC also manages Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and Lawrence
Berkeley National Laboratory under its contract with the Energy Department.

Los Alamos, Livermore and a third lab, the Sandia National Laboratory,
designed and engineered the nuclear arsenal, and now their mission is ensuring
the stockpile's reliability and safety. Lawrence Berkeley is an energy research
center and is also owned by the Department of Energy.

UC's Board of Regents is expected to hear this week from Atkinson and others
about the problems at Los Alamos and the administration's response.

The university said in a progress report -- dated Friday -- that its auditors have
reconciled all but $120,000 of $3.8 million in questionable purchases and other
transactions that were identified by accountants last year.

But in response to questions, a spokesman for the university said Monday that
auditors have added $500,000, bringing the problem transactions up to
$620,000 -- and that figure could still grow.

QUESTIONABLE TRANSACTIONS

The university has acknowledged other questionable transactions or missing
property as well as blatant misuse of lab credit card accounts. The transactions
include those by two officials who, over a period of years, ordered what Walp
said were tens of thousands of dollars in camping gear, expensive knives,
electronic goods, plumbing fixtures, remote- controlled airplanes and other items
for their personal use.

Another lab employee tried to charge a $20,000 Ford Mustang and $10,000
worth of spare parts on a lab credit card. The university said that the Mustang
purchase was halted before it went through and that the United States attorney's
office in Albuquerque has investigated and decided not to prosecute the person
involved.

But Norman Cairns, a spokesman for the U.S. attorney, refused to confirm that
there has been any decision not to prosecute.

The university also identified 355 computers as missing, but insisted none of the
computers contained classified information.

The problems, the university said in its report, have only redoubled its resolve to
maintain an outstanding reputation in the performance of all aspects of
laboratory management.

The university has been struggling to quell the storm, hiring expensive attorneys,
reassigning the director and deputy director of the lab and promising wholesale
changes in the way it manages Los Alamos.

But the problems have continued to grow

[CTRL] mk-ultra documents, shanley, fvsai conference, US inciting global rights abuse

2003-01-15 Thread Smart News

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Project MKULTRA The CIA's Program Of Research In Behavioral Modification http://www.pjproject.org/Mkultra/
1977 Senate Hearing on MKULTRA Cover Page http://www.pjproject.org/Mkultra/title.html
1977 Senate Hearing on MKULTRA Opening Remarks "Some 2 years ago, the Senate Health Subcommittee heard chilling testimony about the human experimentation activities of the Central Intelligence Agency. The Deputy Director of the CIA revealed that over 30 universities and institutions were involved in an "extensive testing and experimentation" program which included covert drug tests on unwitting citizens "at all social levels, high and low, native Americans and foreign." Several of these tests involved the administration of LSD to "unwitting subjects in social situations." http://www.pjproject.org/Mkultra/project.html

from L Moss Sharman Ex-vicar of Boston concedes he erred By Michael Rezendes and Thomas Farragher, Globe Staff, 1/14/03 "When the Rev. Paul R. Shanley resigned his position at a Newton church and moved to a California parish, it fell to Bishop Robert J. Banks, then the top administrator in the Boston Archdiocese, to write a 1990 letter assuring California church officials that Shanley was a priest in good standing. But in pretrial testimony released yesterday, Banks acknowledged that when he wrote the letter, he had been told of allegations that Shanley had spoken in favor of sex between adults and children and had allegedly initiated a conversation about sadomasochism with a patient while serving as chaplain at McLean Hospital. Over a two-day deposition taken in November, Banks, now the bishop of the Green Bay, Wis., diocese, also said that in writing an open letter to his parishioners last May, he omitted significant facts when explaining the role he had played overseeing Shanley's career in Boston. ''At the time I wrote the [1990] letter, there was no obvious indication that Fr. Shanley had been in serious difficulty with the archdiocese years before,'' Banks wrote to his parishioners. ''When I wrote, he had been a pastor in good standing for years.'' But Banks never said - either in his 1990 letter or his more recent letter to his parishioners - that he had personally reviewed 1985 correspondence from a Rochester, N.Y., woman who said she had a tape recording of a speech in which Shanley endorsed sex between adults and children and said that children were typically the seducers in such relationships."
http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/014/metro/Ex_vicar_of_Boston_concedes_he_erred+.shtml


Sexual abuse suit dismissed against school 1/10/03 By Linda Stein "Trenton - A former student at the American Boychoir School in Princeton Borough who sued the school over sexual abuse he allegedly suffered there as a child was devastated to learn that a judge has dismissed that lawsuit he filed against the school.In his 40-page opinion, Sabatino said the Charitable Immunity statute protects nonprofit corporations, religious and educational organizations from liability for damages "for the negligence of any of its agents," provided the injured person is a "beneficiary."However, the school had previously settled two other lawsuits with similar allegations, one for $850,000." http://www.nj.com/news/times/mercer/index.ssf?/base/news-4/1042196443152792.xml

8th International Conference on Family Violence: Working Together to End Abuse Countries, States, and Counties Come Together for Professional Training on Reducing and Preventing Family Violence and Sexual Assault - contact : Lisa Conradi, Conference Co-Coordinator #858-623-2777 ext.427 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/16-20th, 2003, Town and Country Hotel and Convention Center, 500 Hotel Circle North, San Diego, 92108 "The 8th International Conference on Family Violence, co-hosted by the Family Violence and Sexual Assault Institute, Children's Institute International, and Alliant international University is a unique forum for people from all disciplines and philosophies to gather together to exchange information and discuss differences and similarities in what we do and how we do it. The conference covers all aspects of family violence prevention, intervention, and research in the areas of child maltreatment, teen abuse, judicial issues, sexual assault, law enforcement, treatment of offenders, intimate partner violence, elder abuse and more." 

from the last conference : 
FRINGE ADVOCACY ORGANIZATION ATTEMPTS TO DERAIL INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE 8/2/02 - "Dear Conference Co-Sponsors, Collaborators, Planning Committee Members,  Others, As you may have heard by now, or possibly even received a letter, there is an organized effort to shut down our conference by urging co-sponsors, collaborators, and others to withdraw support and not attend the 7th International Conference on Family Violence in September. The letter campaign focused on two of the 150 sessions to be presented at the conference. It is spear-headed by a

[CTRL] One to Ten, Ten to One

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Remember the ratings are on a scale of one to ten, with one usually
being the highest, ten at the bottom.  Dudley was the ten while people had
their peepers popped on Bo's po-po-posterior; but then again,  if this is not
verifiable, then who are the other nine who beat out Bo?  A:E:R


Joe Lieberman's conservative comfort zone
http://www.workingforchange.com/printitem.cfm?itemid=14364
Bill Berkowitz - WorkingForChange

01.15.03 - Some television talk-heads are calling him the class nerd. The
Washington Post's media critic, Howard Kurtz, is asking, Can a mensch be
president of the United States? He's a marvelous target of late-night talk-show
hosts who see more than a little bit of Alfred E. Newman in him. And some
pundits are wondering if he's too nice to be president.

He supports going to war with Iraq -- the sooner the better. He doesn't think
President Bush has been tough enough with North Korea. He supports a land-
based alternative for the national missile defense system known as Star Wars.
He's down with school vouchers, thinks the president's faith-based initiative is on
target and is an inveterate Hollywood basher. He defines himself as a different
kind of Democrat and he wants to be your President.

He's Sen. Joseph Lieberman and he's joined Rep. Richard Gephardt of
Missouri, Senators John Kerry of Massachusetts and John Edwards of North
Carolina, and former Vermont Governor Howard Dean in the race for the party's
2004 presidential nomination.

Earlier this week, Ron Brownstein of the Los Angeles Times wrote: As a former
chairman of the Democratic Leadership Council -- the centrist group that helped
launch Clinton's national career -- he's also a favorite of many Democratic
moderates. On policy, Lieberman largely follows the 'New Democrat' agenda
that Clinton and Gore advanced -- though on some issues, such as his
openness to experiments with school vouchers, Lieberman comes out to their
right.

Is Senator Lieberman a moderate conservative or is he a right- winger in
Democratic clothing?

The Hollywood-bashing Lieberman

When the Connecticut Democrat announced he was throwing his hat into the
ring for the 2004 presidential nomination, he proudly pronounced that he was a
different kind of Democrat. Democratic voters need more different Democrats
like ENRON needs more publicity.

Lieberman quickly set out to prove his different Democrat status by renewing
his attack on -- you guessed it -- Hollywood.

When in doubt the different Demos, and often the not-so- different Demos,
look to the Left Coast and play the trash Hollywood card, while at the same time
hustling up to Hollywood's financial trough. Lieberman is a veteran culture
warrior who for years has marched lock-step on culture war issues with that
bloated self-appointed culture maven, William J. Bennett. The Senator told
those assembled in Stamford, Conn., that he would fight for families: As a
father and now a grandfather, I have taken on the entertainment industry for
peddling sex and violence to our children -- and spoken up for parents who feel
they are in competition with the popular culture to raise their children and give
them the right values.

The faith-based Lieberman

Lieberman, who is Jewish, is also a strong supporter of President Bush's faith-
based initiative. In fact, early last year when the president's project was
floundering, Bush gave Lieberman and Republican Senator Rick Santorum the
task of crafting a compromise initiative. While it seemed to be a balanced
pairing of liberal with conservative, the reality is that Sen. Lieberman and
Sen. Santorum share more than a seat in the same legislative body. They both
share a close relationship to a conservative operation called The Empowerment
Network (TEN), where they serve as Empowerment Caucus Chairmen.

TEN describes itself as a resource hub for state legislators, grassroots
organizations, and other civic leaders promoting American family and
community renewal of civil society in the 21st century. According to its website,
TEN's grassroots network provides the winning edge on policy initiatives that
support youth character and family revitalization, entrepreneurship and the
unleashing of faith-based initiatives and cultural remedies.

The Empowerment Network was founded in 1992 by a coterie of right-wing
ideologues including:

Its current president, David Caprara, who served as Deputy Assistant Secretary
under Jack Kemp (during the George H. Bush administration) and National
Director for the American Family Coalition;
Sam Brunelli, who from 1988 through 1995 was the Executive
Director of the highly partisan American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), is
member of the secretive Council on National Policy, and, in August 2001, joined
the Republican Liberty Council as its National Finance Chairman;
Robin Brunelli, President of the National Foundation for Women
Legislators;
Robert Woodson, the President of the National Center for
Neighborhood Enterprise;
Stephen

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If this is their new OP, it isn't gonna sell very well either.

Enough people are aware of the Frameup on Humanity to understand that left and
right are two wings of the same vulture, and we can point at the Vulture, and it
looks a lot like Kissinger.

I am thrilled that Roadsend has established a clear chain of evidence linking
Zionism to Jews-as-Freemasons, establishing Zion as a Freemasonic concept once
and for all.

heh. This happens to be the same concept I brought to CIA-Drugs when I came, and
got smacked around for antisemitism for thinking about.

It seems that antisemitism is a mind-trigger control word protecting still
another Official Story as phoneybaloney as the rest of the Official Stories
that makes up the Ivory Tower matrix of falsehood rationalists rationalize
rationally.

I've been peeking under the blanket of smoke and lies called antisemitism and
found just another intricate mind game to stifle thought and demonize freedom.
As a person of conscience, grown up under the globalist notion We are all one
race
I would like to blow a whistle and alarm for other people of conscience, and
find such a nest of mind-control trigger words attached to everything that needs
to be said, that I am in despair right now.

My ephiphany was http://white-history.com
I am a visual person, and I trust visual evidence best.
I do not agree with the conclusions of the site, which are extremely
incompatible with my goal of individual freedom for individual individuals.

These ancient White People left the same petroglyphic script on six different
continents.
They built megalithic structures with enough common features that the words
Global Culture leap to mind.
http://www.viewzone.com/stantest22.html

Most peculiarly, there is a correlation between this distribuition and potential
immunity to aids:
Those of us who believe AIDS is actually targeted biological
warfare find evidence here:

Human Gene Mutation
CCR-5-delta-32
There is apparently a human gene mutation,
Mutation CCR-5-delta-32,
which makes its holders nearly immune to AIDS,
since this gene has no receptor for AIDS-similar viruses.
...

As the researchers have discovered, however,
Mutation CCR-5-delta-32 not only is immense in its
distribution, but it also has a distinct north to south
distribution, and, on the evidence of Australia, an
Indo-European touch.
http://www.lexiline.com/lexiline/lexi76.htm

Whereever these folks came from, a common element of their civilizations is
reference to Osirus or parallel constructs, and a history of human-sacrifice
based religion.

By no coincidence, to this day the elite of any given culture are more apt to
have white-people aspects to their facial features than the majority population,
and these elites have been connected with secret societies and opiates as far
back as I can trace.

I think we have HG Wells close enough to the wellspring of the Frameup on
Humanity to call him one of the directors of it.
I found two ***virulently*** antisemitic articles by him
H G Wells: The Research Magnificent (1915)
http://web.archive.org/web/20010305214836/www2.prestel.co.uk/littleton/re4_wells_research.htm

H G Wells: The Fate of Homo Sapiens (1939), The New World Order (1940)
http://web.archive.org/web/20010305214825/www2.prestel.co.uk/littleton/re4_h_g_wells.htm

Blaming Jews is just another Frameup in the overall Frameup on Humanity. Blaming
Jews is rational, but making it look that way is just a way of demonizing a
largely secular, educated and creative backbone of civilized life.

http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2002/2949moonification.html
H.G. WELLS AND BERTRAND RUSSELL:
The `No-Soul' Gang
Behind Reverend

Re: [CTRL] synarchy

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Note that the Martinist symbol of two interlocking triangles, one dark and one
light, may have had some meaning for them but it has various meanings for
many others.

it is not a star, a star being a figure that can be drawn unicursorily (in one
movement without picking up the sytlus) and cross through the centre (its
essence or core).  There is a version of the hexagram that can be drawn thusly.

In occultist terms, the two interlocking triangles represent the four elements of
air, water, fire and earth.  The plain upright triangle is one of the four and the
plain upside down triangle is another.  To complete the set, a line is drawn inside
each of the triangles about a thrid or two-fifths of the way from the point.  With
these, they can be overlapped to make a set of all the elements, stacked one
upon the other like playing cards.

Similar to the flyflot (swastika), a monopoly of symbolism and associated
meanings is not conferred just on one group with the same (similar looking)
symbol and significance.

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[CTRL] Israel to kill in U.S., allied nations

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Israel to kill in U.S., allied nations
By Richard Sale
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>From the Washington Politics Policy Desk
Published 1/15/2003 4:50 PM
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Israel is embarking upon a more aggressive approach to the war on terror that will include staging targeted killings in the United States and other friendly countries, former Israeli intelligence officials told United Press International.

Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has forbidden the practice until now, these sources said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

The Israeli statements were confirmed by more than a half dozen U.S. foreign policy and intelligence officials in interviews with UPI.

With the appointment of Meir Dagan, the new director Israel's Mossad secret intelligence service, Sharon is also preparing "a huge budget" increase for the spy agency as part of "a tougher stance in fighting global jihad (or holy war)," one Israeli official said.

Since Sharon became Israeli prime minister, Tel Aviv has mainly limited its practice of targeted killings to the West Bank and Gaza because "no one wanted such operations on their territory," a former Israeli intelligence official said.

Another former Israeli government official said that under Sharon, "diplomatic constraints have prevented the Mossad from carrying out 'preventive operations' (targeted killings) on the soil of friendly countries until now."

He said Sharon is "reversing that policy, even if it risks complications to Israel's bilateral relations."

A former Israeli military intelligence source agreed: "What Sharon wants is a much more extensive and tough approach to global terrorism, and this includes greater operational maneuverability."

Does this mean assassinations on the soil of allies?

"It does," he said.

"Mossad is definitely being beefed up," a U.S. government official said of the Israeli agency's budget increase. He declined to comment on the Tel Aviv's geographic expansion of targeted killings.

An FBI spokesman also declined to comment, saying: "This is a policy matter. We only enforce federal laws."

A congressional staff member with deep knowledge of intelligence matters said, "I don't know on what basis we would be able to protest Israel's actions." He referred to the recent killing of Qaed Salim Sinan al Harethi, a top al Qaida leader, in Yemen by a remotely controlled CIA drone.

"That was done on the soil of a friendly ally," the staffer said.

But the complications posed by Israel's new policy are real.

"Israel does not have a good record at doing this sort of thing," said former CIA counter-terrorism official Larry Johnson.

He cited the 1997 fiasco where two Mossad agents were captured after they tried to assassinate Khaled Mashaal, a Hamas political leader, by injecting him with poison.

According to Johnson, the attempt, made in Amman, Jordan, caused a political crisis in Israeli-Jordan relations. In addition, because the Israeli agents carried Canadian passports, Canada withdrew its ambassador in protest, he said. Jordan is one of two Arab nations to recognize Israel. The other is Egypt.

At the time, Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu said, "I have no intention of stopping the activities of this government against terror," according to a CNN report.

Former CIA officials say Israel was forced to free jailed Hamas founder Sheikh Ahmad Yassin and 70 other Jordanian and Palestinian prisoner being held in Israeli jails to secure the release of the two would-be Mossad assassins.

Phil Stoddard, former director of the Middle East Institute, cited a botched plot to kill Ali Hassan Salemeh, the mastermind of the 1972 Munich Olympics massacre. The 1974 attempt severely embarrassed Mossad when the Israeli hit team mistakenly assassinated a Moroccan waiter in Lillehammer, Norway.

Salemeh, later a CIA asset, was killed in Beirut, Lebanon, in 1976 by a car bomb placed by an Israeli assassination team, former U.S. intelligence officials said.

"Israel knew Salemeh was providing us with preventive intelligence on the Palestinians and his being killed pissed off a lot of people," said a former senior CIA official.

But some Israeli operations have been successful.

Gerald Bull, an Ontario-born U.S. citizen and designer of the Iraqi supergun -- a massive artillery system capable of launching satellites into orbit, and of delivering nuclear chemical or biological payloads from Baghdad to Israel -- was killed in Belgium in March 1990. The killing is still unsolved, but former CIA officials said a Mossad hit team is the most likely suspect.

Bull worked on the supergun design -- codenamed Project Babylon -- for 10 years, and helped the Iraqis develop many smaller artillery systems. He was found with five bullets i

[CTRL] SCOTT RITTER VS RICHARD BUTLER

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SCOTT RITTER VS RICHARD BUTLER
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Re: A Debate on the Donahue Show

Following is a partial transcript of Monday nightâs debate on MSNBCâs Phil Donahue Show. It is the first time that former UNSCOM weapons inspectors Scott Ritter and Richard Butler have appeared in a television face-off since Ritter quit UNSCOM in 1998. It is a fascinating exchange, for as it proceeds we see a steady convergence of opinion between the two men and past differences explained by a difference in wording. Where Butler for years has said we know Saddam Hussein has hidden weapons of mass destruction, and that Ritter has agreed on that point, Ritter insists he never said he knew for a fact that such WMD were hidden, and that further inspections would be needed to nail down those suspicions. In the end, the two agree heartily that inspections should continue until the issues are resolved, and there should be no unilateral action by Washington on mere suspicions that Iraq poses a threat. The complete transcript can be read at http://www.msnbc.com/news/859114.asp Iâve lopped off the tail end of the call-in QA, which adds little to the informative nature of the program. 

ANNOUNCER: Tonight: As the president continues to beat the war drum, tens of thousands of Americans are sent to the Persian Gulf. Is January 27 a deadline for war or a speed bump to a diplomatic solution? 
DONAHUE goes inside the issues with two men on polar opposite sides: 
former U.N. weapons inspector Scott Ritter, who claims Iraq is not a threat; and his former boss, Ambassador Richard Butler, who says Iraq poses the greatest threat to global security. 
DONAHUE, a live studio audience, and your phone calls-America speaks out on Iraq, starting right now. 
(APPLAUSE) 
PHIL DONAHUE, HOST: Good evening and welcome to DONAHUE.

Tonight, we have an exclusive television event... weâre talking about going to war with Iraq.

Debating now, for the first time face to face, are two men once charged with the task of ridding Iraq of its weapons of mass destruction. That was then. And now, they are bitterly disagreeing on how much of a threat Saddam is to the world. Here are Ambassador Richard Butler, MSNBC analyst and former executive chairman of the United Nations special commission charged with the disarmament of Iraq; and Scott Ritter, former U.N. weapons inspector, under Butler. Scott Ritter is here and so is Ambassador Butler. (APPLAUSE) 

DONAHUE: Well, Scott, you wrote a book titled âEndgame.â You once reported to Richard Butler. He was your boss. And now you disagree with him. Kindly make your case, Mr. Ritter, sir. 
SCOTT RITTER, FORMER U.N. WEAPONS INSPECTOR: Well, I think the basic issue of disagreement is what exactly constitutes the threat that Iraq poses today. I think, clearly, Richard and I understand that Iraq is obligated to disarm, that they possessed massive quantities of weapons of mass destruction and they have an obligation...
RICHARD BUTLER, FORMER CHIEF U.N. WEAPONS INSPECTOR: That's right. 
So, you say massive quantities. 
RITTER: They had massive quantities. 
DONAHUE: You said had. Past tense? 
RITTER: Absolutely.
BUTLER: I thought you said has. They had. Which one?
RITTER: Had. Possessed. Past tense. 
And they were obligated, under international law, to be disarmed by weapons inspectors. I served seven years as a weapons inspector, from 1991 to 1998. And Ambassador Butler was my boss from the summer of 1997 until my resignation in August 1998. And, during that period of time, we did our job. We weren't able to complete our job. 
We make it clear. To disarm, to do what you're obligated to do under international law, a couple things have to have happen. One, Iraq must fully cooperate with the inspectors. And I think we can be in agreement that, during our time in UNSCOM, Iraq never completely cooperated. 
BUTLER: Phil, we're going to have a very dull debate, because, so far, I agree with everything he said.
(LAUGHTER) 

RITTER: Two, the Security Council must enforce its law. If youâre going to pass a law, you have got to enforce it. And, clearly, when Iraq is obligated to disarm and they donât cooperate with the inspectors, the Security Council needs to do something. If they don't, you don't have viable inspections. And, three, the integrity of the inspection process must be respected throughout. That means that, not only do we hold Iraq accountable to the rule of law, but we ourselves, in implementing the rule of law, must likewise. 
And this is where I have a problem. You see, the United States government has a policy of regime removal, getting rid of Saddam Hussein. And, since 1991, my experience has been that that policy of regime removal, which has taken priority over disarmament, corrupted the integrity of the process. 
And I think we have to identify that this corrupting influence does

Re: [CTRL] Do Vegetarians Taste Like Chicken?

2003-01-15 Thread Steve Wilson

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In a message dated 1/15/03 8:56:56 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

When I was a kid we would just slap Henny Penny on
a stump and whack her head off with a hatchet.
I Steve Wilson am a vegetarian.
I am a victim of human rights abuses involving electronic implants and mind control.
I am not a racist and am subject to hate crimes.
I Steve Wilson am Bhuddist and beleive that it is important to stop the suffering of all living things. I am a cyborg via forced evolution my mind is interfaced with computer
networks via biological telemetry. Humans use artificial intelligence and Syntel or synthetic telepathy to read my mind and project thier voices into my brain.
Some are civilized others are cruel.I Steve Wilson support Peta and human rights orginizations.
For the human species to evolve they must learn to respect the other life forms they share this planet with. Stopping the cruelty to animals stops cruelty in general
people who dont kill animals will generally not harm humans.
Eating flesh is a primitive practice and I have evolved beyond it.
Jan 2003
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[CTRL] Charely Reese: The Iraq Follies

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The Iraq Follies
by Charely Reese

President Bush seems to be hinting that he hopes someone will shoot Saddam Hussein or that Saddam will decide to retire. All things are possible, but Saddam isn't the retiring type, and he certainly did not reach age 65 in his job by being an easy target.

More than a decade ago, I wrote that the first George Bush had inadvertently provided Saddam with guaranteed protection against a coup. By making war on the Iraqi people and by so obviously being in the pocket of the Israelis, the United States assured that any Iraqi who tried to replace Saddam would be immediately branded an American-Zionist agent and ripped apart by the Iraqi people. Iraqis, who don't like Saddam, dislike the United States and Israeli governments even more.

If there is no chance of a replacement surviving in the top spot, there is no point in taking the enormous risk of trying to assassinate a man who is an expert in survival. Our current President Bush has continued the "protection" policy. Only a senior leader would have even a slim chance of getting close enough to Saddam to whack him, and our esteemed president has let it go public that Iraqi senior leaders will be tried as war criminals. All that piece of stupidity does is guarantee that the senior leadership will remain loyal to Saddam.

So it looks increasingly as if the president is going to have to go to war if he wants to eliminate Saddam Hussein. It looks as if he will have to go to war in the face of a United Nations inspections report that says no evidence of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction can be found. That probably won't deter Bush, but it will create enormous and profound problems for the United States. We will be viewed by most of the world as a bully and a hypocrite of the first order.

It's clear by now that Bush isn't going to make public any evidence that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction because he doesn't have any. He claims to have provided the inspectors with the U.S. intelligence, but if so, having acted on it, they haven't found anything.

In the meantime, he might blunder us into a war with North Korea. While we can probably take Iraq with relatively few American casualties, there is no way under the sun to fight a Korean War II without very large American casualties. In the first place, within hours of the start of the war, the 37,000 Americans sitting there as a tripwire will be dead. I doubt the North Koreans will bother to take any prisoners this time. Already the neoconservatives are trying to downplay Korean strength by harping on how poor the country is. Well, they should remember their own rhetoric. North Korea is often described as the last Stalinist dictatorship on earth. So it is. Yet when Stalin was alive, the majority of the Soviet people were also poor, often starving, and he nevertheless produced an enormous military machine. Stalin had hundreds of divisions that German intelligence didn't know existed, and the Soviet Union turned out T-34 tanks by the tens of thousands. Never confuse general prosperity or the lack of it with military strength. Like a poor man with a .357-caliber Magnum, a country can be poor but well-armed, too.

America's relationship with Israel is behind this problem. North Korea, even with nuclear weapons, is no threat to the United States. The Israelis, however, are deathly afraid that North Korea will sell nuclear warheads and long-range missiles to Iran or other Israeli enemies. Don't take my word for it. Watch your cable news shows. The same pro-Israel, pro-war-with-Iraq crowd has already started yakking about how dangerous it would be if North Korea were allowed to export its weapons. Dangerous to whom? Well, they never say, but they obviously mean Israel, since the Israelis themselves have often voiced this fear in Israeli newspapers. Their "axis of evil" and our "axis of evil" are the same.

It's too bad the early Zionists didn't pick Kenya for their new colony instead of Palestine. The United States would have had a much easier time of it. Hopefully, though, one day Americans will get tired of pulling Israel's chestnuts out of the fires of its own making. Eliminating threats by making peace with its neighbors seems to be a low priority in Israel.

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Re: [CTRL] Do Vegetarians Taste Like Chicken?

Title: Re: [CTRL] Do Vegetarians Taste Like Chicken?
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More evolved than the Buddha, who ate meat?
Whose brilliant moment of realization of the divine middle path came after starvation and asceticism with the offer of unclean food from a gopi?

WOW!

on 01/15/03 6:37 PM, Steve Wilson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/15/03 8:56:56 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

When I was a kid we would just slap Henny Penny on
a stump and whack her head off with a hatchet.

I Steve Wilson am a vegetarian.
I am a victim of human rights abuses involving electronic implants and mind control.
I am not a racist and am subject to hate crimes.
I Steve Wilson am Bhuddist and beleive that it is important to stop the suffering of all living things. I am a cyborg via forced evolution my mind is interfaced with computer
networks via biological telemetry. Humans use artificial intelligence and Syntel or synthetic telepathy to read my mind and project thier voices into my brain.
Some are civilized others are cruel.I Steve Wilson support Peta and human rights orginizations.
For the human species to evolve they must learn to respect the other life forms they share this planet with. Stopping the cruelty to animals stops cruelty in general
people who dont kill animals will generally not harm humans.
Eating flesh is a primitive practice and I have evolved beyond it.
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Re: [CTRL] Do Vegetarians Taste Like Chicken?

2003-01-15 Thread iNFoWaRZ

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Great story, just read it as I finished off a great tasting slab of
butchered bovine, more than satisfying my most primitive hunger
pangs. I guess I haven't evolved yet.
But I do love animals, in fact, I fed my dog a few bites of that dead cow
flesh and she loved it! A happy animal.
Hitler was a vegetarian and he didn't harm any humans, did he?
I also am a member of PETA, People Eating Tasty Animals.
A life member.
Tomorrows fare? Dead Chicken!
Can't wait.

At 06:37 PM 1/15/03 , you wrote:

I Steve
Wilson am a vegetarian.
I am a victim of human rights abuses involving electronic implants and
mind control.
I am not a racist and am subject to hate crimes.
I Steve Wilson am Bhuddist and beleive that it is important to stop
the suffering of all living things. I am a cyborg via forced evolution my
mind is interfaced with computer
networks via biological telemetry. Humans use artificial
intelligence and Syntel or synthetic telepathy to read my mind and
project thier voices into my brain.
Some are civilized others are cruel.I Steve Wilson support Peta and
human rights orginizations.
For the human species to evolve they must learn to respect the
other life forms they share this planet with. Stopping the cruelty to
animals stops cruelty in general
people who dont kill animals will generally not harm humans.
Eating flesh is a primitive practice and I have evolved beyond it.
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[CTRL] US ramps up its own biowarfare research

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As Bush threatens Iraq with nukes,
US ramps up its own biowarfare research
By Kellia Ramares
Reprinted with Permission

It was originally published on the Center for Research on Globalisation
(http://www.globalresearch.ca) on December 26, 2002.

When I booted up my AOL account on the morning of December 11th, I was greeted by the picture of someone in a gas mask and the headline: "You gas us; We'll nuke you!" Bad as that was, the headline on West County Times was worse: "Pre-emptive nuke strike a possibility." The San Francisco Chronicle banner headline was even pithier: Bush Doctrine: Hit First.

But while George W. Bush threatens Iraq, the United States is expanding its own biowarfare research programs. The government plans to increase the number of biohazard safety level (BSL) 3 and 4 labs around the United States. BSL 3 labs handle live anthrax, botulism, and bubonic plague, among many other things. BSL 4 labs conduct research on an array of even deadlier organisms, including smallpox and Ebola virus.

Steve Erickson, director of the Citizens' Education Project http://www.citizensedproject.org in Salt Lake City, Utah said, "This expansion of laboratory capacity within the Defense Department and other departments of government has been in the works for a number of years, probably dating to about 1995. Certainly, the intensity and speed of these developments is picked up since 9/11/2001. The last count we had was about 14 [labs] that were being proposed in various locations by any one of four Cabinet level departments within the US Government. There are some indications now that the National Institutes of Health will be backing off in terms of the numbers of Biological Safety Level Four laboratories, but intends instead to renovate and perhaps build additional Biological Level Three laboratories."

The Department of Energy wants to build a BSL-3 facility at its Los Alamos lab in New Mexico. On December 16th, the DOE released the final Environmental Assessment of plans to build a BSL-3 lab at Lawrence Livermore National Lab http://www.llnl.gov , in the San Francisco suburbs. DOE issued a "Finding of No Significant Impact" for construction of this new facility. Additionally, Lawrence Livermore (LLNL) plans to be a partner in developing The Western National Center for Biodefense and Emerging Diseases, a BSL-4 facility slated for the University of California â Davis.

Why put high containment microbiology labs at nuclear facilities, such as Los Alamos and LLNL?

One might think the ready answer is that at the nuclear weapons lab security measures were already in place that would safeguard the community against accidents or terrorist attacks. But when I posed the question to John Bellardo, director of the Office of Public Affairs of the U.S. Department of Energy's National Nuclear Security Administration, he did not offer even that much substance. Instead, he said, after a long pause, "There is no apparent problem with locating the biosafety level three facility at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory. All of the potential ramifications were examined in the environmental assessment and it was determined that it does not pose any undue harm or potential threat to the human health or the environment."

Bellardo also said that a contract had been let for the construction of a prefabricated building to house the new facility. Construction should be completed by late summer or early fall of 2003.

The real reason for putting a high containment microbiology lab in a nuclear research facility may be to duck oversight protocols.

Prof. Barbara Hatch Rosenberg, Chair of the Working Group on Biological Weapons of the Federation of American Scientists, http://www.fas.org said "when various types of weapons are being researched at the same place, it means that if there is any kind of oversight or investigation or inspection of one type, it puts at risk classified information about the others. And this is a reason why this government frequently objects to any kind of oversight. And this is also, in my view, a reason why different kinds of weapons research should be conducted at different locations, rather than piling them all in the same place."

What might government microbiologists be researching that they wouldn't want to have subject to inspection?

Robert Gould, MD, incoming president of Physicians for Social Responsibility http://www.psr.org , is concerned that the US may be breaching the Biological Weapons Convention, which limits research to defensive purposes, by genetically modifying anthrax. "This is a threat of developing offensive capabilities," Dr. Gould said, "because you're modifying an organism to be resistant to antibiotics and therefore increasing its capability to be a weapon."

Dr. Gould's concerns are borne out by several documents. LLNL, which already has a BSL-2 lab, has acknowledged in a

Re: [CTRL] Israel to kill in U.S., allied nations

2003-01-15 Thread Prudy L

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Israel is embarking upon a more aggressive approach to the war on terror that will include staging targeted killings in the United States and other friendly countries, former Israeli intelligence officials told United Press International.


Golly gee--anyone know the Hebrew version of "mi casa su casa"? Prudy
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[CTRL] Help - Being Bounced Off The List

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I don't believe that I'm not getting mail from 
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Re: [CTRL] One to Ten, Ten to One

2003-01-15 Thread Prudy L

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He supports going to war with Iraq -- the sooner the better. He doesn't think
President Bush has been tough enough with North Korea. He supports a land-
based alternative for the national missile defense system known as Star Wars.
He's down with school vouchers, thinks the president's faith-based initiative is on
target and is an inveterate Hollywood basher. He defines himself as "a different
kind of Democrat" and he wants to be your President.

He's different all right. Of course he supports going to war with Iraq. Whatever Mr. Sharon says, right? And that faith-based initiative is great too. Israel can annex the United States just as soon as she gets rid of those pesky Palestinians. Prudy

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[CTRL] Fwd: Anti-War Protesters Threaten Vietnam Vets With Violence -- 01-15-2003

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The Illuminati are going to turn this march counter march into a blood bath
to discredit anyone that opposes the coming War for Oil. This will be run
just like they did in Seattle over the WTO. Delta Force will be all through
the crowd and agent provocateurs will cause violence to turn the public off
to the plea for peace. Please pass this on to all the people you know.

  Sardar


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[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Re: Thank you Brian Quig for this new info: DAMNING EVIDENCE!!

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--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Eastman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], starpowernow [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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   Thanks Dick,
   
   This is not the kind of post I like to see go by without a 
  comment.  
   Those who who can ignore this and go on as before do not have 
their 
   heart in the struggle.
   
   Brian Downing Qiug
 
 How much imporant information goes by without comment-- because
 automaton lawyers and bureaucrats and single-minded others won't
 point it out.  We are lucky you had the presence of mind to snag
 this one.
 
 Watch this little nothing swallow the their world.

Great stuff, guys.  I had no idea this ExecuJet reported in the 
Moussaoui case was owned by Warren Buffet.  Does anyone have a solid 
source for that?

Here's some stuff that's been collecting dust in my favorites files.  
Despite the contradictory nature of the information (ha, what else is 
new?), I hope it might shed some light on this ExecuJet that was 
tracking Flight 93, what they and other airlines saw, and whether or 
not Flight 93 was shot down.

I have no doubt in my mind that Flight 93 was shot down based on what 
a family member told me was relayed to him by someone who worked at 
the Pentagon.  He told me on September 14th, that Flight 93 had been 
shot down and the black box from Flight 77 had been recovered only 
hours after the crash.  I have no reason to doubt him, however, since 
it came from a second-hand, friend-of-a-friend source, I don't 
expect anyone else to put any weight into it.

What I found interesting about the transmission from Cleveland to 
Flight 93 was the obvious missing time in the tape -- when the voice 
gets switched from a male's to a female's.  The oddest portion of the 
transcript has to be the last in which they're asking for a visual on 
Flight 93 one minute, then the next asking if the other planes see 
smoke.  SMOKE?!  Wow, how about asking if they saw the plane crash 
FIRST?  To me that's the clearest indication that Flight 93 was shot 
down (other than the VP's admission that it would have been).  It 
seems as though the portion of the tape has been cut out was probably 
the pilots talking about it getting shot down -- just my suspicion.

The pilot of ExucJet 956 -- whose plane now suspiciously turns out to 
be Buffet's -- certainly knows what happened.

Anyway, hope this helps.  Have fun sorting it out...

--

Feds Would Have Shot Down Pa. Jet
WASHINGTON, Sept. 16, 2001

U.S. officials were considering shooting down the hijacked airliner 
that crashed in western Pennsylvania, but it crashed first. 

'The president made the decision ... that if the plane would not 
divert, if they wouldn't pay any attention to instructions to move 
away from the city, as a last resort, our pilots were authorized to 
take them out,' Vice President Dick Cheney told NBC's 'Meet the 
Press' program Sunday. 

'People say that's a horrendous decision to make, and it is,' Cheney 
said. But he said the United States absolutely would have acted on 
those orders if it could have prevented the attacks on the World 
Trade Center or Pentagon, which have left thousands of people feared 
dead. 

'As it turned out, we did not have to execute on that decision,' 
Cheney said.

(...)

As the fourth hijacked plane was over Pennsylvania, seemingly headed 
for Washington, military commanders, the FAA, and White House 
officials were on a conference call discussing options. 

At the time, there were two F-16s armed with air-to-air missiles 
within 60 miles of Flight 93. But the fighters were still

Re: [CTRL] Israel to kill in U.S., allied nations

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Not that two wrongs make a right but what do you call the killing in Yemen 
with a rocket from the CIA's unmanned Predator? It was several months ago that 
Bush gave the CIA carte blanche to kill the "enemy" anywhere in the world.

JR

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Israel is embarking upon a more aggressive approach to the war 
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Re: [CTRL] Israel to kill in U.S., allied nations

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Not that two wrongs make a right but what do you call the killing in Yemen with a rocket from the CIA's unmanned Predator? It was several months ago that Bush gave the CIA carte blanche to kill the "enemy" anywhere in the world.

I call that a violation of international law.

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Re: [CTRL] Israel to kill in U.S., allied nations

Title: Re: [CTRL] Israel to kill in U.S., allied nations
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Like the US doesnt kill foreign nationals on foreign soil.
Please...


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Israel is embarking upon a more aggressive approach to the war on terror that will include staging targeted killings in the United States and other friendly countries, former Israeli intelligence officials told United Press International.



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Re: [CTRL] Israel to kill in U.S., allied nations

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I call that a violation of international 
law.
You're right. My point was that Israel is just following the U.S. 
lead.

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Not that two wrongs make a right but what do you call the killing 
  in Yemen with a rocket from the CIA's unmanned Predator? It was several months 
  ago that Bush gave the CIA carte blanche to kill the "enemy" anywhere in the 
  world.I call that a violation of international 
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Re: [CTRL] Israel to kill in U.S., allied nations

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You're right. My point was that Israel is just following the U.S. lead.

With the annoying little difference that they're doing so on American soil.
Both cases are wrong, but to allow a foriegn agency to break American laws on American soil is beyond the pale.

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Re: [CTRL] Israel to kill in U.S., allied nations

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Why is it worse breaking American law than the law of some other country?


on 01/15/03 10:07 PM, William Shannon at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



With the annoying little difference that they're doing so on American soil.
Both cases are wrong, but to allow a foriegn agency to break American laws on American soil is beyond the pale.


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Re: [CTRL] Israel to kill in U.S., allied nations

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Why is it worse breaking American law than the law of some other country?

Because I am an American, that's why.

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Re: [CTRL] Israel to kill in U.S., allied nations

Title: Re: [CTRL] Israel to kill in U.S., allied nations
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Ah. A reasoned response. Thank you.

on 01/15/03 10:28 PM, William Shannon at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/15/2003 9:25:08 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Why is it worse breaking American law than the law of some other country?


Because I am an American, that's why.

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Re: [CTRL] Israel to kill in U.S., allied nations

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With the annoying little difference that 
they're doing so on American soil.Both cases are wrong, but to allow a 
foreign agency to break American laws on American soil is beyond the 
pale.
Did we break Yemeni law? Your double standard is showing.

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You're right. My point was that Israel is just following the U.S. 
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[CTRL] Belgium amending law to try Sharon for War Crimes

2003-01-15 Thread flw

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w w w . h a a r e t z d a i l y . c o m

Thursday, January 16, 2003 Shvat 13, 5763
Israel Time:  04:49  (GMT+2)
  -
---
 Belgium amending law to enable Sharon trial

Belgian Prime Minister Guy Verhofstadt says he is not opposed to a
proposal to amend the country's laws in a way that would allow Ariel
Sharon to be indicted for war crimes.

Verhofstadt made his comment on Tuesday on the efforts of several
politicians in Belgium's senate to amend and broaden the country's war
crime laws. Under the proposal, originally sponsored mainly by left-wing
politicians in the senate, Belgium's 1993 Universal Law would be expanded
to apply to any person suspected of war crimes, no matter where the
suspect may be located.

The proposal won backing in the senate by all its parties. It then was
moved to the state council, a body supposed to review the legal status of
proposed bills, and evaluate their compatibility with Belgium's
constitution.

The council approved the proposed amendment and the bill returned to the
senate, where it passed on first reading. Second and third reading votes
will be carried out next week, and the senate will apparently fully approve
it. Belgium's government also supports the law, and now the Prime Minister
has clarified that he doesn't oppose it.

Last June, a Belgian appeals court ruled that Ariel Sharon cannot face
trial in the country on war crimes charges. Only suspects who dwell in
Belgium can face trial for war crimes committed beyond the country's
borders, the court found.

Israeli officials expressed consternation about Verhofstadt's position.
Belgium's Prime Minister visited Israel over a year ago, when he was acting
chairman of the European Union.

He met Sharon and the sources say that the meeting created the impression
that Verhofstadt had reservations about legal proceedings which were then
being carried out in Belgium against Israel's prime minister. The sources
claimed that Belgium stands out as one of Europe's countries most hostile
toward Israel.

On Sunday, Belgium's ambassador to Israel was called to the Foreign
Ministry in Jerusalem, where he was informed of Israel's concerns regarding
the proposed new bill in Belgium.

By Yossi Melman

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[CTRL] German Cannibals

2003-01-15 Thread flw

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TELEGRAPH UK
German sect accused of rape and cannibalism
By Kate Connolly in Berlin
(Filed: 16/01/2003)

German authorities are investigating claims that members of an occult sect
raped and murdered women and ate children in ritual ceremonies.

According to a regional state prosecutor, several people are being
investigated for numerous offences of sexual abuse with an occult
background over the past 15 years.

We are aware of several perpetrators and witnesses who took part in black
magic masses, a public prosecutor, Georg Jüngling, told the German
television channel ZDF.

Horst Roos, the head public prosecutor in Trier, said the inquiry was
launched eight months ago, after several witnesses approached the police.
These proceedings are dealing with a level of violence which is hardly
imaginable, he said.

In a documentary shown on ZDF last night a woman whose parents were members
of the sect described its alleged activities in horrific detail.

Women were habitually raped by men while children were brutally murdered
before being eaten, she said.

Frankfurt's public prosecutor, Peter Köhler, warned authorities against
failing to believe the reports because of their monstrosity.

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Re: [CTRL] Israel to kill in U.S., allied nations

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Did we break Yemeni law? Your double standard is showing.

I said that I disapproved of that too dude.
I am more affected frankly by the Mossad killing people in violation of American law on American soil however.

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Re: [CTRL] Israel to kill in U.S., allied nations

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How do you feel about Americans killing Americans on foreign soil?

on 01/15/03 11:00 PM, William Shannon at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/15/2003 9:36:02 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Did we break Yemeni law? Your double standard is showing.


I said that I disapproved of that too dude.
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Re: [CTRL] German Cannibals

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Dutch cannabis is better

on 01/15/03 10:09 PM, flw at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 German sect accused of rape and cannibalism
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Re: [CTRL] Belgium amending law to try Sharon for War Crimes

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I suppose that means the Bushes and Clinton would be indicted as
well.

JR

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mThursday, January 16, 2003 Shvat 13, 5763Israel Time:
04:49 (GMT+2)
Belgium
amending law to enable Sharon trialBelgian Prime Minister Guy
Verhofstadt says he is not opposed to aproposal to amend the country's laws
in a way that would allow ArielSharon to be indicted for war
crimes.Verhofstadt made his comment on Tuesday on the efforts of
severalpoliticians in Belgium's senate to amend and broaden the country's
warcrime laws. Under the proposal, originally sponsored mainly by
left-wingpoliticians in the senate, Belgium's 1993 "Universal Law" would be
expandedto apply to any person suspected of war crimes, "no matter where
thesuspect may be located."The proposal won backing in the senate by
all its parties. It then wasmoved to the state council, a body supposed to
review the legal status ofproposed bills, and evaluate their compatibility
with Belgium'sconstitution.The council approved the proposed
amendment and the bill returned to thesenate, where it passed on first
reading. Second and third reading voteswill be carried out next week, and
the senate will apparently fully approveit. Belgium's government also
supports the law, and now the Prime Ministerhas clarified that he doesn't
oppose it.Last June, a Belgian appeals court ruled that Ariel Sharon
cannot facetrial in the country on war crimes charges. Only suspects who
dwell inBelgium can face trial for war crimes committed beyond the
country'sborders, the court found.Israeli officials expressed
consternation about Verhofstadt's position.Belgium's Prime Minister visited
Israel over a year ago, when he was actingchairman of the European
Union.He met Sharon and the sources say that the meeting created the
impressionthat Verhofstadt had reservations about legal proceedings which
were thenbeing carried out in Belgium against Israel's prime minister. The
sourcesclaimed that Belgium stands out as one of Europe's countries most
hostiletoward Israel.On Sunday, Belgium's ambassador to Israel was
called to the ForeignMinistry in Jerusalem, where he was informed of
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Re: [CTRL] Do Vegetarians Taste Like Chicken?

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FULL METAL JACKET. Freak-on righteous dude!!!

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On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Steve Wilson wrote:

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  When I was a kid we would just slap Henny Penny on
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 I Steve Wilson am a vegetarian.
 I am a victim of human rights abuses involving electronic implants and mind
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 I am not a racist and am subject to hate crimes.
 I Steve Wilson am Bhuddist and beleive that it is important to  stop the
 suffering of all living things. I am a cyborg via forced evolution my mind is
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 networks via  biological telemetry. Humans use artificial intelligence and
 Syntel or synthetic telepathy to read my mind and project thier voices into
 my brain.
 Some are civilized others are cruel.I Steve Wilson support  Peta and human
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 For the human species to evolve they must learn to  respect the other life
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 people who dont kill animals  will generally not harm humans.
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Re: [CTRL] Israel to kill in U.S., allied nations

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In a message dated 1/15/2003 10:39:15 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

How do you feel about Americans killing Americans on foreign soil?

It's a violation of the law.
I am opposed.

Bill.
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Re: [CTRL] Israel to kill in U.S., allied nations

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On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, William Shannon wrote:

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  How do you feel about Americans killing Americans on foreign soil?

It is truly a wondrous thing. Whatever it takes for a piece of
Jew-Grovelling-Faggot-White-Shit like Junior to prove his
texas-white-faggot supremacy and suck japhethite/and/or/edomite kike
cock.

FULL METAL JACKET

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[CTRL] FULL METAL JACKET

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Fuck you piece of KIKE SHIT. Ripping your throat out on a Vietnam
Battlefield is the true joy of every red blooded yankeedoodler. Hee haw,
all must remember the alamo!!!

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On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, james gale wrote:

 Pure filth from obviously  a  mentally deficient individual. Jim...

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Re: [CTRL] Israel to kill in U.S., allied nations

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We all know he is a Saudi groveling oil whore first and foremost.

Silly asshole, thoughts are for humans.


on 01/16/03 12:07 AM, Party of Citizens at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, William Shannon wrote:

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 How do you feel about Americans killing Americans on foreign soil?

 It is truly a wondrous thing. Whatever it takes for a piece of
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Re: [CTRL] Belgium amending law to try Sharon for War Crimes

Title: Re: [CTRL] Belgium amending law to try Sharon for War Crimes
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And every world leader short of mahatma Gandhi, and thats only because he never ran a government.


on 01/15/03 11:39 PM, Jim Rarey at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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I suppose that means the Bushes and Clinton would be indicted as well.

JR

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From: flw mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:03 PM
Subject: [CTRL] Belgium amending law to try Sharon for War Crimes

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w w w . h a a r e t z d a i l y . c o m

Thursday, January 16, 2003 Shvat 13, 5763
Israel Time: 04:49 (GMT+2)
-
---
Belgium amending law to enable Sharon trial

Belgian Prime Minister Guy Verhofstadt says he is not opposed to a
proposal to amend the country's laws in a way that would allow Ariel
Sharon to be indicted for war crimes.

Verhofstadt made his comment on Tuesday on the efforts of several
politicians in Belgium's senate to amend and broaden the country's war
crime laws. Under the proposal, originally sponsored mainly by left-wing
politicians in the senate, Belgium's 1993 Universal Law would be expanded
to apply to any person suspected of war crimes, no matter where the
suspect may be located.

The proposal won backing in the senate by all its parties. It then was
moved to the state council, a body supposed to review the legal status of
proposed bills, and evaluate their compatibility with Belgium's
constitution.

The council approved the proposed amendment and the bill returned to the
senate, where it passed on first reading. Second and third reading votes
will be carried out next week, and the senate will apparently fully approve
it. Belgium's government also supports the law, and now the Prime Minister
has clarified that he doesn't oppose it.

Last June, a Belgian appeals court ruled that Ariel Sharon cannot face
trial in the country on war crimes charges. Only suspects who dwell in
Belgium can face trial for war crimes committed beyond the country's
borders, the court found.

Israeli officials expressed consternation about Verhofstadt's position.
Belgium's Prime Minister visited Israel over a year ago, when he was acting
chairman of the European Union.

He met Sharon and the sources say that the meeting created the impression
that Verhofstadt had reservations about legal proceedings which were then
being carried out in Belgium against Israel's prime minister. The sources
claimed that Belgium stands out as one of Europe's countries most hostile
toward Israel.

On Sunday, Belgium's ambassador to Israel was called to the Foreign
Ministry in Jerusalem, where he was informed of Israel's concerns regarding
the proposed new bill in Belgium.

By Yossi Melman

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[CTRL] FULL METAL JACKET

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Right on, righteous dude. But wait until the kike-shit-sucker of DC
provokes enough HATE so that the full metal jackets will be suitcase
nukesLEBED BOMBS CAN SPOIL YOUR WHOLE DAY, HYMIE SCUM.

What did the Joker say?

YOU will be picking the peanuts out of North Korean SHIT and eating them
with relish and calling it holy communion because the Grovelling Grahams
and their tele-evangelical hymie-scum-shit have told you to do so.

POC
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 We all know he is a Saudi groveling oil whore first and foremost.

 Silly asshole, thoughts are for humans.


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  On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, William Shannon wrote:
 
  In a message dated 1/15/2003 10:39:15 PM Central Standard Time,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  How do you feel about Americans killing Americans on foreign soil?
 
  It is truly a wondrous thing. Whatever it takes for a piece of
  Jew-Grovelling-Faggot-White-Shit like Junior to prove his
  texas-white-faggot supremacy and suck japhethite/and/or/edomite kike
  cock.
 
  FULL METAL JACKET
 
  POC
  (LEZ)
 
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Re: [CTRL] FULL METAL JACKET

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Call colleen jim, maybe she can send you some meds.

on 01/16/03 12:17 AM, Party of Citizens at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 -Caveat Lector-

 Fuck you piece of KIKE SHIT. Ripping your throat out on a Vietnam
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 all must remember the alamo!!!

 The POC'ster
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 On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, james gale wrote:

 Pure filth from obviously  a  mentally deficient individual. Jim...

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 On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, William Shannon wrote:

 In a message dated 1/15/2003 10:39:15 PM Central Standard Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 How do you feel about Americans killing Americans on foreign soil?

 It is truly a wondrous thing. Whatever it takes for a piece of
 Jew-Grovelling-Faggot-White-Shit like Junior to prove his
 texas-white-faggot supremacy and suck japhethite/and/or/edomite kike
 cock.

 FULL METAL JACKET

 POC
 (LEZ)

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