Re: [CTRL] Impeachment and Clinton
-Caveat Lector- HOAX IMPEACHMENT TRIAL Don't hold your breath, soon you will see a mock event that will be used to make the stupid segment of society believe an actual impeachment trial is going on. It will be just like professional wrestling filled with rehearsed moves ... Oh, oh they have the president down and he is about to be pinned splat, pow he is up and in the end part of the act is clinton's triumph against great odds. Expecting crooked politicians to up hold the law is but a joke, so don't join the ranks of the stupid. Let them know before their coming mock trial will appease the stupid, but they are but mob party bosses who's show will be used to obstruct justice and protect their criminals party partner. Instead of being stupid enough to believe the party mob is about to uphold the law, send them a post (similar to the one below) letting them know we know exactly what they are about to do. Send it to every news agency, every politician and especially the family members of the senators. Let them know what kind of dishonorable liar and crook their little senators are. They will continue to use phrases like "They want to do what is best for America" and what is "best for America" just happens to be what is best for the democrats party mob... What is "best for America" is to let a felon and sex molester remain in office, so the democratic party is not embarrassed. They will continue to use such words.. "they are taking care of America", when in fact their only goal is to save their own party ass. Allowing criminals to hold high office is not what is best for any nation, but to the contrary. Allowing criminals to hold public office is but an evil cancer that will destroy a nation from the inside out. Allowing criminals to hold office, is what is best for criminal mob families. PREPARE FOR THE MOCK IMPEACHMENT TRIAL 1) If a politician does the same things others are branded as criminals for, then why isn't that politician a criminal? 2) Has Clinton committed the VERY SAME ACTS that other citizens have been branded criminals/felons for? 3) Unless these "honorable senators" are dishonorable liars, it is not their own opinions they will use in deciding the fate of Clinton. Every senator took an oath to uphold the laws of the land and the law specifies IMPEACHMENT as the stated punishment. In federal law, there are no degrees in felonies. Crimes come in two categories, misdemeanors and felonies. Misdemeanors are low crimes and felonies are high crimes. 4) Obstruction of justice, perjury ... tell me Mr. Senator are these misdemeanors/low crimes or are they felonies/high crimes? Now because democrats are going to cover up for their criminal partner and because the republicans are afraid to lose power and money, we are about to have a mock trial. The end results will be another politician joke on the American people. 5) Tell me Mr Senator, is there one law for the politicians and another law for the village idiots? If not, as soon as you slap clinton on the wrist are you going to release every citizen who is in prison on perjury and/or obstruction charges? Are you going to strip all the obstruction and perjury laws from the books, so no other citizen can be persecuted for the very same things you are about to free clinton for? No, you do not believe in equal justice for politicians and the people. You are about to put on a sham trial for show and tell and then flip the finger at the laws you took an oath to uphold. CHESTER THE MOLESTER FOR PRESIDENT One a talk show, Jones described how Clinton ran his hand up her ... and then pulled out his ... for her to suck. If she lied, then why doesn't Clinton sue her for liable? Ask Clinton and Jones if they will take a polygraph test and see who will come. We have heard of Clinton's patsies rave on the great mind and memory of Clinton and yet this great mind "couldn't remember who Jones was". Hustler magazine used to have a cartoon about Chester The Molester. I have seen the publisher of Hustler magazine on talk shows defending Chester Clinton. Reno wasn't Clinton's first choice was she? If I remember right the first "judge" Clinton chose was a woman who posed naked in a magazine. What was clinton's "bimbo control staff" set up for? Other than the published case, how many dozens more UNWILLING women has chester the molester clinton grabbed? Tell me how it is that other men who sexually assault women like Clinton are required to register as sex predators ... and yet this sex molester is held as some great honorable president? IF Clinton wasn't a powerful politician and he would have grabbed the daughter of any of his PRESENT SUPPORTERS, then pulled out his for them to suck, he would have been jailed, fined and or sued. If it were the daughter of his present day supporters, they would probably have knocked the hell out of him.
Re: [CTRL] Clinton's new Hustler column Duh
-Caveat Lector- I never said Flint was not a pervert. The First Amendment protects American perverts from do-gooders like you who think a bullet is justice for being different. /// The original point had nothing to do with the first admendment, it was about the crooks in the white house illegaly getting fbi files and working with a scum bag pornogrpher to take the heat of the felon clinton If perversions are forbidden, what are you going to do when the majority decides you are a pervert? /// When the majority decides anyone is a pervert, they use a little different adjective (criminal) and put them in prison or kill them. The Nazi's decided Jews were perverts and eliminated them, /// The Jews belonged to the nazi party until they were booted out and other big nazi jews such as adoph eichman was known as the butcher of jews You don't have to like him. You don't have to read his smut. But, in America, you do have to allow him the same First Amendment rights you have, or you can wait your turn for the bullet of justice. /// I detest the pervert and my first admendemnt right allows be to express my contempt for him. The first admendment was not established so guys like hustler could show pictures of someone sticking a pop bottle up their mother, it was established so people could have a dialog on things they think is wrong and join their forces to make changes. As far as bullets taking care of business, foster was aware of that for almost an hour before his death, the kennedys got theirs and two weeks a holly wood actor got on national tv and talked about murdering henry hyde and his whole family. Back to the original point, the pervert and democratic mob family are in the same bed together. Kennedy's nephew got away with rape of a baby sitter. Kennedy's other nephew got away with the rape of another woman. Kennedy got away with killing a woman. Barry got away with a dope charge that others are sent to prison for. North got away with treason. Clinton is going to get away with treason, obstruction of justice, perjury and sex crimes. Packwood got away with sex crimes. A congressman got away with sex with an underage page barney the homo got away with a homosexual prostution ring in his home... The political parties are nothing less than criminal mob families and (in my opinion) anyone who takes up for them are dirt bags. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Clinton's new Hustler column Duh
-Caveat Lector- I saw Flint's daughter on some program and they said Flint actually got the scoop on republicians from the FBI files that the democrats took illegaly. By this story Flint is pretending to get scoops from the public when he is actualy working for the democrats and using copies of the fbi files to get his info ... of course the democratic mob family would not be blamed for what Flint does. If Flint is getting his scoop from the public, is it only republician politicians who engage in such sex acts? If Flint is not working for clinton, then where are his exposures of whoremonger democrats? HMmmm DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Tom DeLay
-Caveat Lector- Who has fax numbers for Delay, Graham? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Wyoming
-Caveat Lector- Are there any people here from Wyoming? if so [EMAIL PROTECTED] or if you have any friends from the state have them send me a post if they have time thanks Temporary taxes: In this country, under the Communications Act of 1934, the government gave out broadcasting permits for use by the public, for free. These licenses were to be temporary, and were to be renewed every three years. He he, the oldest politican trick on the books. . DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Outline of new Republican National Health Plan.
-Caveat Lector- PRAY - YOU - DON'T - GET - SICK. /// Health plan? Social Security? Why do Democrats or Republicans care. They are all multi millionaires. They nor their families need worry. All they have to worry about is getting your tax money to give multi million dollar "grants" to those who give them campaign bribes. Yeah you can pray, rub your lucky stone and stand on your heads, or you could begin to work together to do something. Waiting on your political party to make things right? Look at the tax rates in 1943 when we were in a war and look what the tax rates are today. Look what your democrat/republican buddies have done for you. You better start praying your prayer meetings better start with your fellow Americans praying how you are going to take the government out of the control of the party crooks. . DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] 008 OHIO CLARK JAPPLESEED@TREE.COM
-Caveat Lector- For those sending post to find others in your state. If others come along we will put you in contact with each other. You may work with your own private group. You can use this process for your own list to easily sort your fellow soldiers. == If you have any of your friends contact us to become part of the project, have them use the format above. 008(my code for those interested in the project) STATE COUNTY E-MAIL ADDRESS All in caps, no spaces. == I have created a folder 008 Soldiers. When I get posts with people interested in the project I move their post in the folder. With no commas, upper case and single spaces in the subject area I just click on subject and everything is sorted in alphabetical order Names are ok, but if there is anything you are into that may help the project, add that info in the body. === Don't get into off topic information. No one who talks about illegal stuff. Just people who want to work with others to make things happen. . DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Democracy Project
-Caveat Lector- I guess this post was private e-mail. I get so many post and when people do not use one of my headings, I am not sure what their post is about .. especially when they don't leave a note in the body. == What no URL to go to and SEE ??? /// Nope, but if anyone knows of any web sites who would be interested in this project, I'll be glad to coordinate with them. Many of you with internet accounts are allowed to have your own web pages, you just need to make up your own web pages. I have a graphic file, you can use to place on your page. = If you know of people with newsletters who might jump in the project, let us know. = One of my fair feathered friends does a lot of quacking. While making good arguments, some of it is a "little" crude. That is ok, as long as you get the point. No one need jump on our band wagon, just understand the concept and work together with those in your social comfort. When people in your state contact us, we will put them on to your group. Understand that some of the speech is to get people's attention and make them think. Some times I feel like we are yelling "there is a flying saucer over the hill" and no one hears us... so we have to hit em in the head with a rock so they will chase us over the hill. = For those of you who have an actual internet connection I guess you can get free web space in different places. After you figure out you are ready to start swinging, you can find newsletters, web pages and maybe set up your own. After we find contacts in each state, we will refer them to others and then they will work together to establish contacts in every county. If this post ends up in a newsletter and you have no idea of what I am blubbering about, it is about a project to put control of the government back into the hands of the people. If any of your readers are interested in such a plan I will send you some previous post. . . DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] 015 WEB PAGES
-Caveat Lector- If you have a web page in which the them has the theme of Laws of the people, by the people, for the people Putting control of the government in the hands of the people... Send a post. In the subject box * All caps * just one space after 015 * no commas i.e.015 HTTP/DOGGY/HOUSE The subject box should contain your web page address. In the body give a discription of the purpose of your page. If you have found other such web sites, you can use the same means. . DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Some replies
-Caveat Lector- One says: Ok, start here http://home.talkcity.com/LibertySt/Arem and click to Civil Liberties, Free Republic. Now, as for "wide-spreading" your message . . . ask to become a part of the [EMAIL PROTECTED] and see if that don't get you an audience !!! I object to defects in process . . . one of those objections is to the use of ALL CAPITALS . . . you see, that is a nom de guerre (war name) under the Doctrine of Necessity, as declared every two years by our Presidents to continue the SUSPENSION of our Constitution . . . h. since FDR 1933. And, let us NOT get into a "democracy" - - - we started a Republic (if we could keep it) . . . so, also, may I recommend you join Excite.com Communities When you go to my home page (above) click on Civil Liberties (you will see my Constitutional Republic form of Government site) . . . go to its related links and click on Constitutional Alliance / I will past your post and my reply. There are others who are on the same beam as you on such topics. They will be able to go to your web site. \\ Reply to the above post. I am not on the internet. I can't go to web sites, I only have e-mail and my software only connects me to a local server until I can exchange in/out going mail. But I can/will subscribe to the newsletters you cited with @ in them. == If you are on the internet, I can send you gov.txt I can not send large files, so I have to break them down. If you know how to cut and past, you can put it together and make it available to others. = The file covers the set up of the republic, which is rePUBLIC . I don't have the defination in memory but a republic is a government which uses representative to represent the people as a whole. Political parties do not represent the will of the people, they represent the agenda of the political parties. (I won't go into all of that now, it is in the file) = The petition network gives the people the power to recall politicians. At the present time, the party pals can flip the finger at the people and there is nothing we can do about it. Only if, politicians are accountable can there ever be a hint of a republic. There can not be, there is no republic in any nation where politicians have power over the people. = Even though a lot of things you stated is a fact, only a few people know or care. While you have your hot issues, everyone else has their own. Information pollution? Do you have time in your life to read all the information available on the constitution and government outrage? Consider someone you know who reads book after book, reads and writes volumes on the internet What have they changed after 2 years? In 5 minutes any voter (who has not read one page of all that stuff) will do more to make a change at a voting booth than 10,000 students who have read a million pages. Taking such extensive information to the public will only bore them. If you are satisfied with things as they are, then there is no problem, but if you wish to change things you need the voters. It does little good to know all of that stuff if you can do nothing to change it. Forcing politicians to be under the control of the people will not be accomplished by knowing all the information on the internet or by reading ever page of written material. Forcing politicians to be representatives of the people will only be accomplished IF/WHEN the politicians are made accountable to the people. Passed out a petition? Signed a petition? Voted on an issue at the voting booth? Only those who do not engage in these constitutional given rights, need tell me about the evils of democracy. The American movement includes democracy and the right to petition as stated in the constitution and it integrates a republic ... an actual republic in which the "representatives" are not representative of the agendas of political parties nor are they representatives of bribe givers. Thanks for the info on the newsgroup . DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to
[CTRL] Clinton becomes hero
-Caveat Lector- While in the middle east heroic president clinton risks his life and was almost killed/injured in his effort to bring peace to the middle east. don't be susprised if you read about such an event in a couple of days. Unless the democrates have some people they can kill to make clinton a hero, they will pull some such trick out of the hat. Did anyone watch starr give his thing and behind him was that weird orential guy who kept on making all of those faces Then behind clinton's lawyer, they had that little blond as the back ground? There is nothing they will not stoop to. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] New multi million dollar republicans ?
-Caveat Lector- The Republicans have the wealthy clients since they carry the water for the rich. Thus, they get the big campaign bucks. Don't you read the papers? /// Yeah, but republicans aint republicans cause they have some kind of philosophy ... they and democrats are one in the same. Their "values" are based on what their controllers tell them. The republician congressmen now have the chance to gain the bribes of a life time from the democrats at which time they will never need their republican bosses again. "The president is going to call in people he needs votes from" Him or anyone in the party? Why? If these politicians are representatives, then why are they having other politicians pusing them to vote their way? Yes the new multi million dollar republicans are about to be covered in more money than they can ever spend and all they have to do is turncoat to keep a criminal in office. *** I think I heard someone say they were happy to have a republic? If I need to give up my citizenship, what country do I have to go to live in the same republic as them? By defination a republic is an indirect democracy. Instead of people voting directly with majority rule, they elect a representative and they enact the will of the majority of the people from their district. When this country first started, this plan was decided on because it was impossible for anyone to vote or even know what issues were. People outside the populated areas lived their whole lives and never knew what laws were passed or even who the politicians were. They had to take care of their live stock and farms. Representatives were people sent to enact the will of the people from their districts... that is what a republic is. There is no "democratic process", there is no democracy and there is no republic in America. This is a political bribery form of government. It is not the laws of the people by the people. Except the fact we get to vote for our dictators, this is no different than any other dictatorship. These politicians are not "representatives" of their districts, they are dictators who impose the will of those who bribe them. . DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Bald face liars testify to congress
-Caveat Lector- Fax to your congressman, senators and news papers Henry Hyde's fax number is: 202-225-7682 CLINTON "DEFENSE" LIARS IN FRONT OF CONGRESS UNDER OATH ! Microsoft CD encyclopedia, sexual relations plural noun 1. Sexual intercourse. 2. Sexual activity between individuals. SEXUAL RELATIONS What do these words mean? Relations or relationships are some kind of interaction between two or more people. * If you are involved in a romance, that is a romantic relation. * If you are involved with someone at work, that is a work relationship. Relations: notes something that two or more people do together. SEX RELATIONS Sex relations involve any act done to arouse and/or reach a sexual climax. Visual ... stripping, specific movements ... Verbal ... "dirty"/sex talk Hand touch ... legs, breast, button ... what ever causing or stimulating an erection. Sex organ touch ... by another sex organ, hand or mouth. In SEXUAL RELATIONS, the interaction between two people is SEX. If a strange man called a woman and talked about poetry, vacuum cleaners or mushrooms, he would not be guilty of any crime, but if he began to talk about oral sex, he could be convicted of a crime. If the other party has no wish to hear it, it is an illegal sex act and if the other party wants to hear it, it is a legal sex act. When this verbal interaction takes place between two people it is a sexual relationship. Under the laws an adult male having an under age girl give him oral sex, would be convicted of a sex act with an under age girl. He would not be arrested for patting her on the head or holding her hand. The charge involving oral sex would be made BECAUSE IT IS SEX ! Thinking about sex is not a relation, but when people interact together for the purpose of arousal and/or a climax, it is a SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP. Sex=act done for the purpose of sexual arousal and/or climax. Relations = interaction between two or more people. *** If oral sex is not sex, then why do I see prostitutes being arrested on the show "COPS" for selling oral sex? *** In every court in the United States for the last 200 years, every case involving any physical touch of a sex organ (hand or mouth) has been put in the category of a sex act. First Clinton had the gull to lie in the face of a grand jury and now Clinton's lawyer (and crack lickers) have come before congress under oath and committed perjury ! *** In the court case against one woman, she did not have intercourse in her office, she only had ORAL SEX. If oral SEX is not sex, then how did the court convict the woman of perjury when she did not have intercourse, she just denied having sex? *** No wonder politicians and lawyers are so hated. They are just a bunch of lying crooks covering up for the corruption of each other. The pathetic part is that "justice" in America is just a hoax which applies only to those who can not afford to buy it. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Loop hole?
-Caveat Lector- "Please note: the 'definition' was offered by the Jones' lawyers and later modified by the judge. I am not sure WHAT source any of the above used as a defining and definitive definition with any definiteness. The crux of the argument is whether one OR two people have to be so engaged as to whatever happened qualifying as fitting the definition." == Baloney, the defination included any touching of sex organs also ... breast, penis, ... Clinton touched her breast, the cigar trick, oral sex with his penis... Clinton and every one who testified that he did not have sex under that defination are bald face liars. = On top of these lies He didn't remember who she was He was never alone with her About 30 bald face lies === Mislead? When asked if clinton lied, clinton's liars keept on rephrasing it to mislead. Take a look at your dictionary and under lie and liar you will find that one who knowlingly misleads others is A LIAR ! = Not worth going to prison over? If a politician does the very same thing as someone else who is branded a criminal, that politician is a criminal. No politician felon should be able to hold their office when it is proven they are CRIMINIALS just like non politicians who are fined, and/or imprisoned for the very same act. Perjury is a felony, Clinton is a felon. Now they want to let their criminal partner keep the job of the president? = If perjury is not a criminal act, then ask those democrats if they are going to take the crime specifications out of the law books ... or if perjury is a felony only for non politicians? === The best question I have seen to ask clinton and the witch is... What do you think should happen to someone who grabbed your daughter (chelsie) by the croch and pulled out his ... for her to suck. What is good for every other American is good for the Clintons. = Purjury is a crime when you don't belong to one of the party mob families. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] xxx Jesse Ventura
-Caveat Lector- Subject: xxx Jesse Ventura If there are any people who live in the same state as Ventura, please send me a post. This is a golden opportunity to launch the priority vote bill. They have so much power, most people think of the democrats as being part of our government. The fact is that they are just private organizations which have been created to control our government. These private organizations even have funneled government taxes to give them the power to hold control over the American people. With Ventura holding the governor's office, people of his state should begin to bombard his office with the priority vote bill. While masses of people are sickened by the party controllers they do not vote for the independent candidate they prefer because "they are afraid to waste their vote". Ventura now has to put the priority vote bill on the ballots and let the people of his state decide. With this voting system, the voter selects a candidate by preference 1 Ike Independent 2 xxx 3 yyy If he chose I first and xxx 2nd and Ike lost, he would not have "lost his vote". His 2nd choice would have the same effect as though it was his first. If the priority vote bill is put in place, people will no longer be forced to chose the lessor of the evils and the party mobs will lose their control over the American people. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please relay this post through out the internet and the state of Ventura. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
