Re: [CTRL] China Headed Towards Financial Disaster
-Caveat Lector- Isn't the Bush Family heavily invested in China? Could W's war on Iraq be an effort to funnel monies into Family coffers to offset losses expected in China? -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of flw Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 8:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] China Headed Towards Financial Disaster -Caveat Lector- Far Eastern Economic Review THE ECONOMY China Public Spending Explodes The government is spending much more than it can raise to make new jobs, stimulate growth and ensure social stability. But as the budget deficit soars and the problem of bank debts isn't solved, warnings are growing that it may all end in disaster snip A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] ET master plan Exec Order 13112 - text needed
-Caveat Lector- Try checking the following links from a Google search: http://www.invasivespecies.gov/laws/execorder.shtml http://www.invasivespecies.gov/council/appendix1.shtml http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/environment/020399em.htm http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/environment/rdsduse/rdus3_9.htm http://www.na.fs.fed.us/spfo/alb/reports/eo13112/eo13112.htm Hope this helps. -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andrew Hennessey Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 11:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] ET masterplan Exec Order 13112 - text needed -Caveat Lector- can anyone dig this up for us please - ?? andrew PRESIDENTIAL EXECUTIVE ORDER 13112 - INVASIVE SPECIES This Executive Order signed by President Bill Clinton at first sight would seem to be aimed at more Earth-originated species of life, but it will become clear that the document applies to Extra-Terrestrial lifeforms as well. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Nostradamus Historical Biography Quatrains
Bill, I would likea copy of your document please. Thanks Jim - Original Message - From: Bill Richer Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 11:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Nostradamus Historical Biography Quatrains -Caveat Lector-Dear Friends: I put together a MS Word 97 document on Nostradamus in a historicalsense. Its not a document that is in support or denying Nostradamus butmostly the facts of what he wrote and what some have said. If anyone would like a copy please let me know.God Bless;Bill
Re: [CTRL] JACOB'S PILLAR OR THE STONE OF DESTINY
-Caveat Lector- I heard Queen Elizabeth moved all the royal treasures to Scotland after England started cooperating with the European Union. Also if my information is correct, it is the Catholic Church that is behind the power of the Rothschild-Warburg clic. It started in the Middle Ages when a Pope realized the church was missing out on profits because of the Sabbath Laws which the church could not be seen breaking so he got some Jewish families to stooge for the church on Sunday and that is how these particular families became so powerful and untouchable. All the best, Jim -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mermaid Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 6:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] JACOB'S PILLAR OR THE STONE OF DESTINY -Caveat Lector- It was returned to the Scots Mike. Love the mermaid x - Original Message - From: Mike Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 11:58 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] JACOB'S PILLAR OR THE STONE OF DESTINY -Caveat Lector- Supposedly this is the STONE of CORONATION of all legitimate ENGLISH KING'S and QUEENS. This STONE which weighs about 200 pounds was used by JACOB to rest his head the NIGHT of his DREAM showing him a LADDER GENESIS: 28 VERSES 10 - 22 where he saw the ANGELS moving up and downward from HEAVEN to earth. http://www.tartans.com/articles/stoneofscone.html The STONE was taken from the SCOTTISH MONARCHY sometime around 1250 AD. And then recently ( 1996 ) moved back into SCOTLAND on LOAN from the QUEEN of ENGLAND. According to tradition all legitimate MONARCHISTS must be sitting on this stone when coronated to be the legitimate heir to the THRONE. I KNOW. YOU'RE all saying WHO GIVES A DAMN.Well in time you will find out that the TOP of the ILLUMINATI PYRAMID is a CABAL of EUROPEAN BLACK NOBILITY families. The ROTHSCHILDS , SCHIFFS and WARBURGS are just STOOGES who are on the PAYROLL. This paints an INTERESTING PICTURE if say MICHAEL LAFOSSE is actually a STEWART. I'm NOT SAYING he is. I have only read BITS PIECES of his book. I was most INTERESTED in the part about BONNIE PRINCE CHARLIE. How about it TENORLOVE. What's YOUR TAKE on this STONE thing. Is it in SCOTLAND now. Or is it still in BUCKINGHAM PALACE. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:
Re: [CTRL] 9/11
The so called British Mandate and the partition of Palestine started on 9-11 of I think 1912. Shortly after the Balfour Declaration was instituted. The attack might commemorate these events but if they are the attack should have been directed against Britain and France. So maybe not. Jim -Original Message-From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Buzzsaw ReaderSent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 8:33 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [CTRL] 9/11Hello, I have a couple of questions to put to the list. 1) Is there any significance to the numbers 911 in occult, mason, or new order areas 2) why was the attack on 911 and does it have any religious connections thanx Tim
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Indict Katherine Harris, Democrats Urge
-Caveat Lector- Maybe Katherine and Hillary should share a cell. -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kris Millegan Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: Indict Katherine Harris, Democrats Urge A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Spy Secrets of the CIA
-Caveat Lector- Yes, that is the place I remember Gary Powers last flight for the CIA taking off. Lots of mis and dis information out there so I'm not sure what is true. Jim -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Prudence L. Kuhn Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 8:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Spy Secrets of the CIA -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 08/13/2001 8:52:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On May 1, 1960, U.S. pilot Francis Gary Powers took off from an air base in Pakistan in his high-flying U-2B spy plane on a mission that would have carried him across nearly 3,000 miles of the Soviet Union to a landing in Norway. He never got there. Downed by a Soviet missile, he was captured and convicted on spying charges by a Soviet court. Can anyone confirm this Pakistan thing. I'm pretty certain that Powers took off from Incirlik AB in Turkey. This is very curious. Prudy A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] THIRD BIOLOGICAL ATTACK IN AUSTIN
-Caveat Lector- Mack White wrote: -Caveat Lector- Worldwide Newslink Exclusive http://www.worldwidenewslink Bio-Terrorism in Austin, Texas? by Mack White This morning, for the third time this week, a possible biological attack occurred in Austin, Texas. I have only incidental proof of what I'm about to say. I think these stories are bogus. Twenty people yesterday and now six today with the government quarantining Breckinridge hospital after these "victims" are admitted then released. This has all the earmarks of an "exercise". Austin municipal government got $200,000 from the feds for counter-terrorism training and prevention. Shortly after that IH-35 South is closed down for what was called a hazardous spill then later admitted it was only an exercise. They closed the major north-south artery for four hours. Next comes the report that there has been a biological/chemical attach in downtown Austin just as the noon lunch rush starts closing down the streets around most of the downtown restaurants again for four hours. Later we find out it was "just an exercise." Now we are hearing reports of these "attacks" on DPS. Now I don't doubt that those 26 people thought they were under chemical attack but their symptoms disappeared at the hospital. Someone is playing a sick game with the people of Austin Texas with the full knowledge and cooperation of somebody in city government. Who do we have to thank for this money? Why Dubya of course and of course Clinton and Gore who keep pushing their community policing initiative. Apparently the more cops you have the more crime there is. I and others have decided its time to make an issue of this federal municipal bonding going on and try to sweep every incumbent from office. Don't be too surprised if your city is next. The press is no where to be seen or heard on the toxic spill (by the feds) travelling down the Ohio River but they have time to report these bogus "terrorist attacks" in Austin Texas. What a world we live in. Regards Jim A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: (en) Our globalisation - Fighting Global STATISM]]
-Caveat Lector- -Caveat Lector- Please define: a. Government b. Private What is the difference between these two concepts? Moral Syndrome - Guardian Shun trading Exert prowess Be obedient and disiplined Adhere to tradition Respect heirarchy Be loyal Take vengeance Deceive for the sake of the task Make rich use of leisure Be ostentatious Dispense largesse Be exclusive Show fortitude Be fatalistic Treasure honor Moral Syndrome - Commercial Shun force Come to voluntary agreements Be honest Collaborate easily with strangers and aliens Compete Respect contracts Use initiative and enterprise Be open to inventiveness and novelty Be efficient Promote comfort and convenience Dissent for the sake of the task Invest for productive purposes Be industrious Be thrifty Be optimistic The above came from a discussion of the basic concepts for each syndrome in Jane Jacobs great book Systems of Survival available from Laissez Faire Books at http://laissezfairebooks.com Regards Jim A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The True story about the Finger OFF TOPIC
-Caveat Lector- Amelia wrote: This is probably total hogwash, but it makes a good story. Before the Battle of Agin Court in 1415, the French, anticipating victory over the English, proposed to cut off the middle finger of all captured English soldiers. Without the middle finger it would be impossible to draw the renowned English lon! gbow and therefore be incapable of fighting in the future. The part about it being English is hogwash. Henry's armt was 2/3 Welshmen. It was these 8,000 Welch archers using the Welch Longbow that gave Henry his famous victory. This just for the record. Cheers Jim A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Wormwood
C. Ray Talania wrote: Greetings, My first post. Question : Does Wormwood in Revelations equate to Bitterroot National Forest? Chernobel = wormwood A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Illuminati Online
Michael Pugliese wrote: http://www.io.com/ Curses discovered again! A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Revolution Has Started: Here Are Your First Orders (fwd)
nessie wrote: I defy you to stand up to a column of M-1 Abrams tanks and Bradley Fighting Vehicles supported by Cobra and Apache helicopter gunships, armed with your trusty .30-06. I find it extremely difficult to imagine United States armed forces slaughtering their brothers, sisters, parents, children and neighbors, simply at some bureaucrat's whim. Even law enforcement, especially local law enforcement, would baulk at such orders. Every studied what happens to occupying forces? Even the native ones get decimated over time. Lincoln said a few true things. One of them is that no occupying force could take one drink from the Ohio River. That if this country falls it will have to be from within. Another thing to remember especially if you plan to be on the "government" side in this business is that "The People" will have lots of chances to redeem both themselves and their country even if things go the tyrants way at first. Little Afghanistan and Somalia fought well armed and trained armies to a stand still and they will look like a walk in a safe park compared to what will happen to occupiers here after Americans wake up and decide enough is enough. There won't be a hole deep enough to save the enemies of American liberties when their time comes. Planes tanks and big guns do not an army make. They are all vulnerable to determined individuals. One .30-06 rifle can bring down any helicopter made in the hands of someone who knows where to shoot. So don't panic. Buy lots of guns and await events. I bet you won't have to use them. Jim Hayman A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [Fwd: FW: Web Comments Form]
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from smtp.umr.edu (mrelay.cc.umr.edu [131.151.1.89]) by deliverator.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA15398 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 08:30:45 -0600 Received: from umr-mail01.cc.umr.edu (umr-mail01.cc.umr.edu [131.151.37.121]) via ESMTP by mrelay.cc.umr.edu (8.9.3/R.4.20) id IAA28609; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 08:30:03 -0600 Received: by umr-mail01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id H2NM3NHS; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 08:30:45 -0600 Message-ID: 9DA8D24B915BD1118911006094516EAF045E17A4@umr-mail02 From: "Careaga, Andrew P." [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FW: Web Comments Form Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 08:30:44 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Hello! The URL you requested is no longer available on our web server. Sorry for any inconvenience this has caused. Andrew Careaga Office of Public Relations || University of Missouri-Rolla [EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://www.umr.edu/~newsinfo/ Phone: (573) 341-4328 || Fax: (573) 341-6157 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2000 5:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Web Comments Form Comments from Web Comments Form ------ Name: James Hayman Email Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Comments: the following URL came back with 404 error. Can you tell me if the link is in error or if the file has been withdrawn? URL: http://www.umr.edu/~police/map.htm It purports to be a link to a map that shows the recent spate of school shootings and to try to correlate them geographically. Any info you can provide would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Jim Request Submitted From: Remote Host: aus-as4-149.io.com Remote Address: 208.2.105.149 Remote User: A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] carry on up the frequencies
-Caveat Lector- Andrew Hennessey wrote: WHY is there a NEW LOONEY RELIGION made to order by the ESTABLISHMENT by Andrew Hennessey In answers to questions like . how many are moving up - the answers vary from a small band to a couple of billion - and all the billions of people not ready will be left behind - and if you get left behind its all your own fault because You Create Your Own Reality. One can always hope that those who employ these means will have the same results Jimmy Carter did with his malaise speech. It seems to have the same resonance doesn't it? Jim DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Neurotoxic Symptoms In Chemical Warfare Casualties At Seattle WTO Meeting
-Caveat Lector- Hilary A. Thomas wrote: -Caveat Lector- Why would neurotoxins be used? If gas masks were "outlawed" tear gas would take care of the job. I've read a number of posts about neurotoxins, but there is no mention of why...It seems like an extreme measure to me... Perhaps its a new experimental toxin and they were testing it. Jim DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [Fwd: Fw: [FPE] Y2K Spoof Flick Goes Awry]
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from legend.idworld.net ([EMAIL PROTECTED] [209.142.64.2]) by deliverator.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA09399 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 23:55:04 -0600 Received: from patriot (anas-01-27.sat.idworld.net [209.142.69.251]) by legend.idworld.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA12641 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 23:55:02 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: 001c01bf3965$51ef9880$fb458ed1@patriot From: "Carolyn Carney" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Jim" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fw: [FPE] Y2K Spoof Flick Goes Awry Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 23:56:30 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 * Those who expect to be ignorant and free are expecting something that never has and never will be. Thomas Jefferson - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 27, 1999 10:06 PM Subject: [FPE] Y2K Spoof Flick Goes Awry From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cyber Eagles - http://home.tampabay.rr.com/membercouncil Y2K Spoof Flick Goes Awry by Craig Bicknell 11:00 a.m. 24.Nov.1999 PST Mike Zieper wanted to tap into current passions with his video art. To do it, he made a grainy, gray tape in which a faceless narrator prepares his soldiers to unleash a government-sponsored riot in Times Square at midnight 2000. The plan: to create chaos so federal troops have an excuse to move in. Weird thing was, after Zieper posted the video clip on his Web site, the troops did move in. "This FBI agent called," said Zieper. "He said, 'There are a lot of people planning to vacation in New York this year, a lot of them are coming to your site and they're getting scared. I want to talk to you about how we can stop people from coming to this site.'" Zieper called a lawyer and didn't pull the site. So both the FBI and the US Attorney's Office went upstream to Zieper's Web hosting company, BECamation in Michigan, and asked that Zieper's site be pulled. There was no threat of legal action, but BECamation president Mark Wieger complied. "We didn't want to take any chances with our business, so we pulled it down," Wieger said. In doing so, Wieger pulled a lever that let loose a virtual riot among free-speech advocates. After the Village Voice published a piece about the incident, online message boards erupted in protest. Now the American Civil Liberties Union is considering a lawsuit on Zieper's behalf. "We think, certainly, that it's very improper for the FBI to be harassing an Internet hosting company to take down content that may be disturbing, but is certainly protected by the First Amendment," said ACLU staff attorney Ann Beeson. The FBI did not respond to a request for comment. Meanwhile, the video itself has been copied and posted on numerous mirror sites. See: http://www.rumormillnews.com/ http://www.angelfire.com/ma/mauicool7/timesq.ram http://moxy.wtower.com/mirrors/timesq.ram It's a hit beyond anything Zieper could have anticipated. Reality has woven a fresh, relevant, scene into the video's fiction and given it a nice buzz. A grand slam for a struggling artist. "If this gets people to look at all this stuff seriously, that's fantastic. That's exactly what I wanted to do," Zieper said. That doesn't mean he's not upset, particularly on behalf of Mark Wieger, who's been besieged by vicious flame emails decrying his decision to pull Zieper's site. "They're saying, 'Why didn't you stand up for the Constitution?'" Zieper said. "I think that's very easy to say from afar, but when the knock comes for you it's a terrifying experience. They tried to infer that he best get out of the way." That has Zieper wondering what else the FBI is up to. "I hope this is just an aberration," he said. "I hope that they review the constitution back at the FBI and don't try to do anything like this again." Have a comment on this article? Send it Email this to a friend. Fax this from your computer for free Related Wired Links: A True Y2K Disaster: the Movie 20.Nov.1999 ACLU to Spy on Echelon 17.Nov.1999 Usenet Ban a Slippery Slope? 16.Nov.1999 The Fed's Deadbeat Database 9.Nov.1999 COPA Goes Before the Bench 4.Nov.1999 'Don't Help the Snoops' 25.Oct.1999 -- Join the Militia of Montana Email Alert List by writing to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "SUBSCRIBE" in the Subject Line! M.O.M. Archived posts at:
Re: [CTRL] Fwd) LOOP: Regional Planning
-Caveat Lector- K wrote: -Caveat Lector- The following article to some extent is of only local interest, having been sent to a local action coalition, "Control the Loop", pulled together to save a rural area from a new highway. Other parts will be seen to be pertinent to the purposes of this list. Snip From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 00:35:49 EDT Subject: Regional planning Has anyone ever wondered why the "Loop" plan was based on a "2020" plan? Was that year just picked at random or is there a true plan? Look up 'Local Agenda 21 Initiative' on one of your web searchers. Here in Texas its called TEA21. If y'all check I think you will find that NAFTA monies are being used for most of the needed highway construction and repair being done recently. I'm not sure what the legal significance of this is but it worries me. We may find ourselves needing "papers" to travel on America'a highways in future. All of the funding done on I35 in Texas is coming from NAFTA Treaty mandated monies. It is to be a corridor running the length of I35 from Canada to Mexico in persuance to the NAFTA treaty. Regards Jim DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] A Mission for the List
-Caveat Lector- Kris Millegan wrote: Here are the known items: 1. Gantt Aviation of Georgetown, Texas - outside of Dallas which sold the plane in question to the State in 1990. Georgetown is outside of Austin Texas north on I-35. Don't know if this is a critical element but I'm not aware of anyplace outside Dallas named Georgetown. I'll see what I can dig up and let you know if possible between now and your publication date. Jim DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] More on McNulty and Gordon Novel
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find it extremely interesting to see Colby's name here, just like he has been linked to the Larry King/ Franklin CU business, among many other odd happenings around. I would like to have some more information on this man. One datum to keep in mind in evaluating Colby is he was the source for Sen. Frank Church's investigation into the CIA. Colby came from the black ops section of CIA and snitched on them to the Church committee. He must have had strong feelings about this. His last association professionally was with Strategic Investment Newsletter publishers James Dale Davidson and Lord William Rees-Moog. It appeared Colby was helping them in their efforts to call attention to Clinton's crimes. Was he doing the bidding of his masters in a faction fight or was he a man of conscience. I dunno. Jim DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
