Re: [CTRL] O.J. ???
-Caveat Lector- After he left OJ's footprints all over the place from those same shoes OJ claims he wouldn't have been caught dead in." ME ** The NEW Gateway to Intelligent Infinity http://members.tripod.com/~Gateway2Infinity ** -Original Message- From: Liz Schumacher [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 10:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [CTRL] O.J. ??? -Caveat Lector- THEN, he took a quart of OJ's blood and dumped it all over the Brown place. yeah, sure liz DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Melissa' macro worms around Web:
-Caveat Lector- Melissa' macro worms around Web: Virus alert from MSNBC. http://www.msnbc.com/msn/253803.asp ME The Gateway to Intelligent Infinity http://members.tripod.com/~Gateway2Infinity/index.html DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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[CTRL] FW: NUFOIA: Re: [CTRL] Jack Parsons Stanton Friedman
-Caveat Lector- Forwarded to CTRL list. ME *** The Gateway to Intelligent Infinity http://members.tripod.com/~Gateway2Infinity/index.html *** -Original Message- From: Keith M. King [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 1999 3:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:NUFOIA: Re: [CTRL] Jack Parsons Stanton Friedman I have never heard Mr. Friedman state at anytime that he was involved with, or a member of MJ-12. This is a gross misrepresentation, sir, which I suggest you repair immediately. Keith M. King Studies Internet FileZone: Always FREE! Instantly store access your valuable PC files on the net, from any Web browser. http://offers.egroups.com/click/235/0 eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/list/ufolist Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jack Parsons Stanton Friedman
-Caveat Lector- Where do you get that Stanton Friedman claims to have been one of the original MJ12 members? i think you have your facts forked up, and I am sure if he reads this you will be hearing about it. Michael Estes *** The New Gateway to Intelligent Infinity is in process ... http://members.tripod.com/~Gateway2Infinity/index.html *** -Original Message- From: Kris Millegan [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 1999 8:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [CTRL] Jack Parsons Stanton Friedman -Caveat Lector- from alt.politics.org.cia - As always, Caveat Lector. Om K - A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.politics.org.cia:42066"Re: Jack Parsons Stanton Friedman/A - Subject: Re: Jack Parsons Stanton Friedman From: Urban Guerrilla [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, Mar 16, 1999 11:26 PM Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alex Constantine wrote: Jack Parsons Stanton Friedman - The Eschaton is Open Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 12:36:28 -0500 (EST) To: zee-list From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fr.L.D. Funquiebutt,F.'.E.'.) Whoa, the internet is a SCAY tool sometimes... Scrambling franticly through the search engines, I found another bizarre twist in the Jack Parsons story today. It seems that some folks think that the Parsons/Hubbard/Crowley "Babalon Rite" somehow succeeded in opening a portal to another "plane" (or more appropriately, dimension), and SOMETHING came through (and is probably STILL coming through!). That something is supposed to have been the source of the sudden jump in UFO sightings and scientific development in the 1946-1948 period. Other interesting events that happened in that period included the discovery of LSD, the Roswell incident, the invention of the transistor, the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls, the sound barrier was broken, and Crowley's death. Also there is a fellow named Stanton T. Friedman, (who is a nuclear physicist) who was supposedly the original researcher of the Roswell case who ties into Parsons. Friedman's 14 years in the aerospace industry includs work for General Electric, General Motors, Westinghouse Astronuclear Laboratory, TRW Systems, and Aerojet-General Nucleonics (Parson's company) on several classified projects. Friedman is also one of the most vocal proponents of the existence of the "Majestic-12" project, and claims to have been one of the original members of the MJ-12 team. Also, if you are familiar with Crowleys sketches of his personal conjourations and "spirit guides", there is one he described as "a foetus-like head with large, black almond shaped eyes". He called it "Lam". It is a dead ringer for what UFOlogists today call "greys". LRON also talks about similar critters in his Scientology mythos, and alludes to mankind receiving "help" from estra-terrestrial beings. So now we have a HUGE conspiracy, beginning with Uncle Al, Jack Cameron, and LRON all screwing around, conjouring holes in the space-time continuum, and bringing forth aliens in flying saucers. These saucers spur the DOD into action, thereby making Parsons a millionaire (and subsiquently, LRON gets a piece of it too!). Crowley had previously masterminded a deal between the US government and the Nazis called Operation Paperclip, wherein dozens of ex-Nazi aerospace and genetic researchers are given asylum in the USA after the war, for cooperation in our "Alien Technology Backwards Engineering" program. Parson gets blown up in a mysterious explosion and his wife leaves the country. LRON cruises the oceans in multi-million-dollar ocean liners, the COS becomes one of the fastest-growing Western religions, and the OTO becomes one of the main forces in occult research and publishing in the US and England. All the while, UFOlogists are chasing the Department of the Air Force on some UFO coverup goose chase, when the whole time it's the Navy (after all, Crowley, LRON and Parsons all had connections there, and Camerson worked for the Navy during WWII in Washington DC)... So let me get this straight. The Eschaton has already been immanetized, the gates are already open, and the "demons" (or angels, depending on your POV) that are rushing into our Earthly plane are actually aliens? Cool... Bright Blessings, and watch the skies... ___r e p o s t___ _ From: --- (Blue Resonant Human) Subject: ::: The Rocket Scientist The Guru: Stardate 1946 ::: Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 01:06:48 GMT
Re: [CTRL] The 33 Year Question
-Caveat Lector- I would like to know the SOURCE of this story about the courier getting struck by a lightning bolt. ME On Wednesday, March 03, 1999 7:50 AM, Source - Richard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Amidst anguish and outrage, a question has plagued the collective subconscious of America for 33 years: Who killed President John F. Kennedy? As one who was alive when it happened, I can testify to the effects of that act upon myself and to what I observed around me. Tragedy is traumatic. I was pulled out of junior high Spanish class and sent out on the street selling newspapers containing the grim news. Only twice in my lifetime were kids hawking papers on the street in our town: the day JFK was assassinated, and the day Ruby shot Oswald. Kennedy's murder represents far more than the unlikely act of a "lone nut" or even a concealed political conspiracy. A four-tiered network of power interests was responsible for the Killing of the King of Camelot, with the all-seeing eye of the Illuminati at the top of the pyramid. Hanging from the Illuminati puppet strings are the Masonic and other 'secret' societies, followed by the national security state apparatus/subculture. A rogue's gallery of various commercial, ideological, political and bureaucratic partners fill out the foundation of this conspiracy. What is the Illuminati? In 1785, a bolt of lightning struck a courier en route to Paris from Frankfort-on-the-Main. "Original Shift in Days of Illuminations," a tract written by Adam "Spartacus" Weishaupt, founder of the Illuminati, was recovered from the dead messenger. It contained the secret society's long-range plan for "The New World Order through world revolution." The Bavarian Government promptly outlawed the society and in 1787 published the details of The Illuminati conspiracy in "The Original Writings of the Order and Sect of the Illuminati." The Illuminati was publicly founded May 1, 1776, at the University of Ingolstadt by Weishaupt, a Professor of Canon Law. It was a very "learned" society; Weishaupt drew the earliest members of his new order from among his students. In Adam Weishaupt's own words: "By this plan, we shall direct all mankind in this manner. And, by the simplest means, we shall set all in motion and in flames. The occupations must be so allotted and contrived that we may, in secret, influence all political transactions." There is disagreement among scholars as to whether or not the Illuminati survived its banishment. Nevertheless, under Weishaupt's guidance, the group had been quite successful in attracting members and through various manipulations had allied itself with the extensive Masonic networks in Europe and the United States. On December 5, 1776, students at William and Mary College founded a secret society, Phi Beta Kappa. A second chapter was formed, at Yale, in 1780. The anti-Masonic movement which erupted in the United States during the 1820s denounced the secrecy of groups such as Phi Beta Kappa. The society responded to this pressure by going public. Some researchers note this as the direct cause of the appearance of Yale's Order of Skull and Bones. The alumni of Skull and Bones provide a direct link between secret societies and the state department/national security apparatus. From "George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography": "...Prescott Bush [Skull Bones] was a U.S. senator from Connecticut, a confidential friend and golf partner with National Security Director Gordon Gray, and an important golf partner with Dwight Eisenhower as well. Prescott's old lawyer from the Nazi days, John Foster Dulles, was Secretary of State, and his brother Allen Dulles, formerly of the Schroder bank, was head of the CIA. ... "In the later years of the Eisenhower presidency, Gordon Gray rejoined the government. As an intimate friend and golfing partner of Prescott Bush, Gray complemented the Bush influence on Ike. The Bush-Gray family partnership in the 'secret government' continues up through the George Bush presidency. "Gordon Gray had been appointed head of the new Psychological Strategy Board in 1951 under Averell Harriman's rule as assistant to President Truman for national security affairs. From 1958 to 1961 Gordon Gray held the identical post under President Eisenhower. Gray acted as Ike's intermediary, strategist and hand-holder, in the President's relations with the CIA and the U.S. and allied military forces. "Eisenhower did not oppose the CIA's covert action projects; he only wanted to be protected from the consequences of their failure or exposure. Gray's primary task, in the guise of 'oversight' on all U.S. covert action, was to protect and hide the growing mass of CIA and related secret government activities." It was not only covert "projects" which were developed by the Gray-Bush-Dulles combination; it was also new, hidden "structures" of
Re: [CTRL] Black Helicopters: Officials admit they exist
-Caveat Lector- That is mighty white of them to admit this since they have been flying around for years now on training (and other) exercises. Now we can hold our breath while we wait for them to admit those other things that have been flying all over the planet for years exists -- UFOs! Michael Estes On Monday, March 01, 1999 6:41 PM, Edward Britton [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: -Caveat Lector- For what it's worth. . . . Army source says they are real, as exercise nears end By David M. Bresnahan ? 1999 WorldNetDaily.com The end is near for Operation Last Dance, and the Army may be planning to have it end with more drama than it began. Officials even finally admitted that they really do use black helicopters. A full-time Army source has informed WorldNetDaily that 100 or more regular Army, National Guard and Army Reserve troops left from California Tuesday to join Operation Last Dance in Texas. They will combine with the 50 to 60 who have already been actively engaged in conducting mock raids in Texas towns. The elite group of 100 is trained to fight terrorists in an urban environment. They have arrived at Corpus Christi Naval Station and Fort Sam Houston for the final days of the training exercise that has caused so much controversy. Last Dance began Feb. 8 in Kingsville, Texas, and is expected to end Feb. 20, perhaps sooner. Live fire has been used in Kingsville where extensive damage was caused to two buildings and a telephone pole. Residents there are still getting over the shock and fear caused by the fake attack that looked and sounded very real. Other exercises in towns around Kingsville and Corpus Christi have also caused concern by residents and elected officials. Officials in Port Aransas, a small town outside Corpus Christi objected heavily when Night Stalkers brought their black helicopters to town without prior approval. They have also been seen in Austin, Annaville, Corpus Christi, San Antonio, and Calallen. The Corpus Christi City Council, home of the Corpus Christi Naval Station, voted to give Operation Last Dance a symbolic pat on the back. Two soldiers gave them a presentation to explain what was being done. Similar presentations have not been given in other communities. The two soldiers would not give their real names "for security reasons." They called themselves Zumwalt and Joseph and discussed the safety of their exercises. Zumwalt confirmed that the helicopters being used for the training exercises are really painted black. Numerous military and former military have contacted WorldNetDaily to correct earlier reports of black helicopter sightings. They claimed that the helicopters are dark olive drab, not black. "We paint them black so that the bad guys can't see us coming. I don't know what 'X-Files' episode started the paranoia about the black helicopters. Those are American pilots with American soldiers who love this country in those helicopters," said Zumwalt. He said he would prefer to paint them red, white, and blue so local citizens would know they are the good guys and not worry. The training missions are as dangerous as if they were fighting a real enemy, and the soldiers confirmed to the City Council that they often use live ammunition and explosives during such exercises. "Our guys have been hurt and even killed during these types of exercises. But we have never had any significant civilian injuries," admitted Joseph. Zumwalt told the council to expect one more exercise in Corpus Christi before Operation Last Dance comes to an end. An Army source told WorldNetDaily to expect that event to be bigger and more dramatic than anything seen so far. U.S. Army Special Operations Command in Fort Bragg, North Carolina, planned and conducted Operation Last Dance after first obtaining permission from some cities they have been to, but not others. Only the Corpus Christi police chief and the city manager knew in advance in that city. Zumwalt and Joseph complained about demands from other cities for notice and approval. They said safety would be compromised if people knew they were coming. They pointed out that a dangerous situation occurred when 200 people in an undisclosed location gathered on a factory rooftop to watch them. The City Council offered a vote of thanks to the soldiers. Zumwalt and Joseph said all they could offer for the use of Corpus Christi was their appreciation. They acknowledge that the city was at risk because of the trai ning exercise, but they said they could not do anything about that. Operation Last Dance has already become a political issue for this year's local elections. Vic Vreeland, council candidate in Austin, is mounting a campaign based on his desire to fight such use of the city in the future. "I was aware of a proposed 'table top' exercise which was to occur in Austin late last ye
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Meet Bill Casey's Nephew, Larry
-Caveat Lector- http://www.globalintelligence.net/ ME *** The Gateway to Intelligent Infinity http://members.tripod.com/~Gateway2Infinity/index.html *** -Original Message- From: Kris Millegan [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 01, 1999 11:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[CTRL] Fwd: Meet Bill Casey's Nephew, Larry Message: Meet Bill Casey's Nephew, Larry DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: CIA Y2K
-Caveat Lector- This is just to let you know someone is actually reading your posts. Thanks for your post on CIA and Y2K. ME On Friday, February 26, 1999 1:15 AM, Alamaine Ratliff [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: -Caveat Lector- : Subject: CIA Y2K : Date: Wednesday, February 24, 1999 5:45 PM : : Via Policy.CoM : : Associated Press : : : : CIA Sees Y2K Problems Overseas : By Jim Abrams AP Writer : : Wednesday February 24, 1999 11:34 am est : DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] WINGMAKERS -- Truth or FAntasy?
-Caveat Lector- You decide. http://www.wingmakers.com/ ME DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] HENNESSEY = PARANOID
-Caveat Lector- I found your post quite illuminating though I had difficulty attemtping to extract the gist of your message from the surrounding verbiage. Please be advised I was not ATTACKING any of your inhabitants/personalities or you. I merely forwarded one of your posts to the wanderers list and made this comment: "YOUR LESSON IN DISCERNMENT FOR TODAY." However, apparently at least one of your inhabitants/personalities perceived this action as an ATTACK. Don't worry. If I attack you personally there will be absolutely no doubt in your mind or anyone elses mind. You might consider subscribing to some other kind of list besides a CONSPIRACY list (perhaps a KNITTING list?) as you seem to be getting a little PARANOID. M9 BLACK OPS UNIT On Monday, February 22, 1999 11:29 PM, Andrew Hennessey [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Some guy called Michael Estes has exercised his natural right to mete out a personal attack - presumably because he disagrees with the humourous way I deal with various Horrific Subject areas eg. the possibility of truth in alien carnage stories - which if true in the slightest is going to put my life at risk - Humour though is my way of Coping with Horror - The CTRL may be interested in some personal Biog notes - all I can say is that to the best of my ability and discernment - they are true, and will explain where I'm coming from. My name is Andrew Hennessey. I have pre-birth memories of choosing this life. I am protected by an intelligent 'humanoid' being aka 'angel' I have been attacked by terrifying 'black hole' energy sucking phenomena in my room in 1978. I was Benevolently abducted in 1980 by 'Zeta' types I have been targeted, harassed and attacked by Security Service ever since. I developed a Unifying Theory of Relativity with 'Free Energy' ideologies And derived Tesla and Keeley theories from first principles using independent Knowledge, solving the Quantum and 30 other 'impossible' academic paradoxes. I was 'visited' by 2 men-in-black in 1985 who tried to blot these emerging Theories from my mind. http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~pegasus/ Attempts were made on my life by an individual in a hostel on 2 consecutive nights And the only thing I knew about it on both occasions was waking up whilst my Legs were already thrashing out at my attacker - my 'angel' having animated my body To save my life.- the man held off and compromised on both ocassions. I have seen and verified Doppelgangers in 1985 In 1985, my sister Avril, who had worked for the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine, was blown up in a gas explosion in London to later die. Before the fire service got there, she says that a man came to remove the tampered gas fittings. In Edinburgh, in 1985 a gunman followed my mother and father out into the countryside, and Parked his car very nearby - he spooked my parents when he began looking angry and Agitated - as my father drove past - he could see the man trying to force a clip into a Luger. My mentally handicapped younger sister was also raped by a man - 1989 whose vehicle we traced To the English Military suburban complex of Bath - under some 'upper class' triple barrelled Name - my father called in a favour in the police force to trace the registration. In 1990- 93 further action from SAS, MI5 in private, personal, and working situations Brought an end to my career in the Civil Service. - These people seriously damaged my health and career. In Scotland MI5 often use the nationalist excuse to target individuals. I worked in a public office As an employment consultant. A man introduced himself as Mr Wallace of 24 Burgess Street, As ex-SAS - he was a big bulky person [Wallace perhaps referring to the Scottish national hero of the same name] He then proceeded to give out a very threatening monologue. I remembered THAT name and address. 1993 At that time as luck would have it I moved into a rented flat at 24 Burgess Street, and there was indeed A Mr Wallace staying there - this guy was 5 foot 1" and very slightly built. I am a professional musician - this year, a non-descript fit individual turned up at a music rehearsal As an unknown guest, shook my right arm with a martial arts akido handshake giving me a serious Injury to my elbow - then left immediately afterwards. I remained ignorant of the injury until I tried To lift something the next day - and I have been incapacitated for weeks. A woman recently showed up at my Group in Edinburgh 1998/9 mentioning circumstances and personal Details about me that only my deceased sister could have known - she claimed that she had MI6 and 'Jewish' connections and that my sister avril had 'arab' friends. I know that Avril only possessed superfluous knowledge past its sell by date in the year she was hit, She was only a secretary. She was also hideously raped, and, thrown from a 2 storey balcony in London
Re: [CTRL] Confirmation: Aliens Among Us?.
-Caveat Lector- The reason for the obvious "seal of approval from the powers that be" is in the fact that the show promoted the prevailing "media" view that there is an "alien threat." And there very well may be... Ronald Gorbachev On Thursday, February 18, 1999 4:15 PM, Gulson and Associates [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: -Caveat Lector- I saw the show too and felt that it was, in some way, an effort to ease the public thinking into the view that the X Files are not all that crazy. How much of it was disinformation is hard to evaluate. Interesting though, that a major network would air this with an obvious seal of approval from the powers that be. JUDY GULSON -Original Message- From: Mark Pitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Confirmation: Aliens Among Us?. -Caveat Lector- Hello CTRL, I saw the show Confirmation last night and I must say that it left more unanswered questions than direct answers. In particular the Space Shuttle segments that clearly show objects of unknown origin couple with the fact that NASA stopped the live video feed of any missions after the fact. I also noted that the John Greenwald segment was really good with still more unanswered questions and obvious cover-up by the USA Government. As to the alien implant segments the jury is still out on this part as far as I am concerned. I personally do believe in UFO or more precisely visits from craft not of this Earth. I have personally seen craft of the not from Earth category on more than one Occasion. My most impressive sighting occurred in 1989 while camped in the woods outside of Grants Pass, Oregon. I witnessed a luminous object come over the ridge that made no sound and was extremely bright. The object moved out of sight before I could get my camera out to take a picture of it. However the next day I was on my way Back to Portland, Oregon and heard a radio account of and object that touched down near Portland, Oregon and was witnessed to travel south south west directly in line with the location I was camped out that Particular night in October 1989. In closing I would definitely say that yes the Government is covering up a huge issue of alien contact and I future have reason to believe that parts of the Worlds Governments probably do have treaties with beings or races from other worlds. I also have seen many a military installation with huge underground facilities. I Have even seen a map of a tunnel network within the continental USA that stretches from coast to coast and in some places across the border into Canada and Mexico. The location I saw the map was in a mobile trailer that had a stair case built inside of it. The mobile trailer was or still is located at the North La Junta, Colorado airport in a USA Air Force radar site installation. From the outside one would not have any reason to suspect a tunnel was even underneath the mobile trailer. Since it was of common construction type with skirting around the bottom of the trailer going all the way to the ground. Anyway this is my two cents worth for now Scott Bourassa wrote: Did anyone see this last night? Unfortunately, I was preoccupied, but would be interested in hearing the list's views, highlights, etc. Sgt Bee edit -- Mark Allen Pitt :) A.A.S. ;) aka Scroll lock *.* BBS ICQ number; 4861371 email; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page; http://www.geocities.com/Area51/9357 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by
Re: [CTRL] Piper - For any network administrator
-Caveat Lector- Ask him/her how to prevent someone from gaining ROOT access to your computer network. ME On Friday, February 19, 1999 9:36 PM, 1lls0081 [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: -Caveat Lector- I have a class assignment, where I am suppose to interview a Network Administrator. Would anyone with the qualifications care to volunteer, Please?! Laura aka The Pied Piper [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please e-mail me, I have about 20 questions. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FW: [Wanderers] Fw: [onelist_moderators] Virus Alert
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: M U [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 19, 1999 2:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[Wanderers] Fw: [onelist_moderators] Virus Alert From: M U [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Wanderers: Let's keep this virus in mind when receiving/sending any attachments to the list. At least it has a nice name! ;) L/L ~ mu ~ - Forwarded message -- From: ONElist Tech Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:41:43 -0500 (EST) Subject: [onelist_moderators] Virus Alert From: ONElist Tech Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, Recently there have been several reports of a virus being passed through lists in attachments. The virus, called Happy99, modifies infected computers so that they spread the virus to other computers through email attachments. For more information on this particular virus, and how to remove it, visit the following web page: http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/happy99.worm.html This is a good time to remind people that, in general, they should not open email attachments or run programs from people they do not know. That is how this and other viruses are spread. Thanks, The ONElist Team ___ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] We now have over 85,000 e-mail communities. Check out our new web site! http://www.onelist.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jeff Hearon's post -- Important Update - My reply to Joe Firmage this morning
-Caveat Lector- Regarding Jeff Hearon's message(below)I would like to offer the following: The LAW OF ONE Volume 5 discusses in detail how the United States has had disc-shaped remote controlled craft for many years. The information was transmitted in a scientific experiment in 1981 but was withheld from publication until just this year. The source was extraterrestrial, and the data was obtained through an instrument in full-trance (not hypnosis). The questioner was Don Elkins, a Professor of Physics. I will quote the relevant parts below. ME The Gateway to Intelligent Infinity http://members.tripod.com/~Gateway2Infinity/index.html * * * RA, Session #8, January 26, 1981 #8, pg. 1-6 ~ 8-11 QUESTIONER: There was a portion of the material from yesterday which I will read where you say "there is a certain amount of landing taking place. Some of these landings are of your own people; some are of the group known to you as Orion." My first question is what did you mean that some of the landings are of your peoples? RA: I am Ra. Your peoples have, at this time/space present, the technological achievement, if you would call it that, of being able to create and fly the shape and type of craft known to you as unidentified flying objects. Unfortunately for the social memory complex vibratory rate of your peoples, these devices are not intended for the service of mankind, but for potential destructive use. This further muddles the vibratory nexus of your social memory complex, causing a situation where neither those oriented towards serving others nor those oriented towards serving self can gain the energy/power which opens the gates to intelligent infinity for the social memory complex. This in turn causes the harvest to be small. QUESTIONER: Are these craft that are from our peoples from what we call planes that are not incarnate at this time? Where are they based? ~ RA: I am Ra. These of which we spoke are of third density and are part of the so-called military complex of various of your peoples' societal divisions or structures. The bases are varied. There are bases, as you would call them, undersea in your southern waters near the Bahamas as well as in your Pacific seas in various places close to your Chilean borders on the water. There are bases upon your moon, as you call this satellite, which are at this time being reworked. There are bases which move about your lands. There are bases, if you would call them that, in your skies. These are the bases of your peoples, very numerous and, as we have said, potentially destructive. QUESTIONER: Where do the people who operate these craft come from? Are they affiliated with any nation on Earth. What is their source? RA: These people come from the same place as you or I. They come from the Creator. As you intend the question, in its shallower aspect, these people are those in your and other selves' governments responsible for what you would term national security. QUESTIONER: Am I to understand then that the United States has these craft in undersea bases? RA: I am Ra. You are correct. QUESTIONER: How did the United States learn the technology to build these craft? RA: I am Ra. There was a mind/body/spirit complex known to your people by the vibratory sound complex, Nickel. This entity departed the illusion and the papers containing the necessary understandings were taken by mind/body/spirit complexes serving your security of national divisional complex. Thus your people became privy to the basic technology. In the case of those mind/body/spirit complexes which you call Russians, the technology was given from one of the Confederation in an attempt, approximately twenty seven of your years ago, to share information and bring about peace among your peoples. The entities giving this information were in error, but we did many things at the end of this cycle in attempts to aid your harvest from which we learned the folly of certain types of aid. That is a contributing factor to our more cautious approach at this date, even as the need is power upon power greater, and your peoples' call is greater and greater. QUESTIONER: I'm puzzled by these craft which have undersea bases. Is this technology sufficient to overshadow all other armaments? Do we have the ability to just fly in these craft or are they just craft for transport? What is the basic mechanism of their power source? It's really hard to believe is what I'm saying. RA: I am Ra. The craft are perhaps misnamed in some instances. It would be more appropriate to consider them as weaponry. The energy used is that of the field of electromagnetic energy which polarizes the Earth sphere. The weaponry is of two basic kinds: that which is called by your peoples psychotropic and that which is called by your peoples particle beam. The amount of destruction which is contained in this technology is considerable and the weapons have been used in many cases to alter weather patterns and to enhance the vibratory
Re: [CTRL] FASCIST POLECATS
-Caveat Lector- Apparently CANADIAN AGENT POLECAT doesn't apprehend the fact that FASCISTs were the ones throwing the Jews and others in ovens, so it seems illogical and unlikely to suggest "FASCISTS" would want to suppress holocaust deniers. Your reasoning is faulty and distorted, as usual. ME Franklin Wayne Poley wrote: -Caveat Lector- Just wondering. Is AOL's reputation for discontinuing ISP service to free speakers borne up by facts? If so, is this list part of an AOL conspiracy to further tighten the noose, ISP-wise, on holocaust deniers and others expressing opinions which are taboo in Fascist America? FWP. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Anyone Know Latin?
-Caveat Lector- Respondient ipse "equites"... May mean "Repond as if equals." I don't think the equites is correct but apparently means equals. Sounds like a legal term. ME On Thursday, February 04, 1999 10:30 AM, nessie [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: -Caveat Lector- A guy I know from bbs.sfbg.com says: I'd say, "Respondeant ipsi equites". Others might tweak the word order. Thanks for asking!! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FW: [CTRL] PSYOPS: When Seeing and Hearing Isn't Believing
-Caveat Lector- In regard to the holographic projection technology, it seems reasonable to conclude that at least some of the UFO sightings can be attributed to this. ME -Original Message- From: Kris Millegan [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 8:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[CTRL] PSYOPS: When Seeing and Hearing Isn't Believing -Caveat Lector- from alt.conspiracy - As always, Caveat Lector. Om K - Subject: PSYOPS: When Seeing and Hearing Isn't Believing From: "Jim Galasyn" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, Feb 2, 1999 20:40 EST Message-id: 7989eg$m8h$[EMAIL PROTECTED] When Seeing and Hearing Isn't Believing http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/dotmil/arkin.htm By William M. Arkin Special to washingtonpost.com Monday, Feb. 1, 1999 "Gentlemen! We have called you together to inform you that we are going to overthrow the United States government." So begins a statement being delivered by Gen. Carl W. Steiner, former Commander-in-chief, U.S. Special Operations Command. At least the voice sounds amazingly like him. But it is not Steiner. It is the result of voice "morphing" technology developed at the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico. By taking just a 10-minute digital recording of Steiner's voice, scientist George Papcun is able, in near real time, to clone speech patterns and develop an accurate facsimile. Steiner was so impressed, he asked for a copy of the tape. Steiner was hardly the first or last victim to be spoofed by Papcun's team members. To refine their method, they took various high quality recordings of generals and experimented with creating fake statements. One of the most memorable is Colin Powell stating "I am being treated well by my captors." "They chose to have him say something he would never otherwise have said," chuckled one of Papcun's colleagues. A Box of Chocolates is Like War -- Most Americans were introduced to the tricks of the digital age in the movie Forrest Gump, when the character played by Tom Hanks appeared to shake hands with President Kennedy. For Hollywood, it is special effects. For covert operators in the U.S. military and intelligence agencies, it is a weapon of the future. "Once you can take any kind of information and reduce it into ones and zeros, you can do some pretty interesting things," says Daniel T. Kuehl, chairman of the Information Operations department of the National Defense University in Washington, the military's school for information warfare. PSYOPS seeks to exploit human vulnerabilities in enemy governments, militaries and populations. - Digital morphing - voice, video, and photo - has come of age, available for use in psychological operations. PSYOPS, as the military calls it, seek to exploit human vulnerabilities in enemy governments, militaries and populations to pursue national and battlefield objectives. To some, PSYOPS is a backwater military discipline of leaflet dropping and radio propaganda. To a growing group of information war technologists, it is the nexus of fantasy and reality. Being able to manufacture convincing audio or video, they say, might be the difference in a successful military operation or coup. Allah on the Holodeck --- Pentagon planners started to discuss digital morphing after Iraq's invasion of Kuwait in 1990. Covert operators kicked around the idea of creating a computer-faked videotape of Saddam Hussein crying or showing other such manly weaknesses, or in some sexually compromising situation. The nascent plan was for the tapes to be flooded into Iraq and the Arab world. The tape war never proceeded, killed, participants say, by bureaucratic fights over jurisdiction, skepticism over the technology, and concerns raised by Arab coalition partners. But the "strategic" PSYOPS scheming didn't die. What if the U.S. projected a holographic image of Allah floating over Baghdad urging the Iraqi people and Army to rise up against Saddam, a senior Air Force officer asked in 1990? According to a military physicist given the task of looking into the hologram idea, the feasibility had been established of projecting large, three-dimensional objects that appeared to float in the air. But doing so over the skies of Iraq? To project such a hologram over Baghdad on the order of several hundred feet, they calculated, would take a mirror more than a mile square in space, as well as huge projectors and power sources. And besides, investigators came back, what does Allah look like? The Gulf War hologram story might be dismissed were it not the case that washingtonpost.com has learned that a super secret program was established in 1994 to pursue the very technology for PSYOPS application. The "Holographic Projector" is described in a classified Air Force document as a system to "project
[CTRL] More Finders Material
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ultinet.net/~harwer/articles.htm DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] A Global Chance for Anti-Statism
-Caveat Lector- Mr/Ms FROST: I realize you claim to be a GRANNY, however, nothing personal, but you could be lying your cojones off. So since none of the governments of the planet are run to your satisfaction, what would YOU propose, ICE BOX? Anarchy? Chaos? ConTRL? Please ILLUMINATE me with YOUR PLAN. How do we know YOU are NOT an "EX-" MARINE IMPLANTED with a BIOCHIP (posing as an Old Granny) on a secret PSYOP to AGITATE the masses. to flush out the REBELS, or some other equally ARCANE and DEVIOUS purpose! Some of your posts are quite ILLUMINATING. You do seem to be fired up for the Lord. However, which Lord that is, remains to be seen. Lord Jesus, Lord TUBALCAIN, Lord Rothschild, Lord Lucifer, Lord Military Intelligence? Come back. Lord Michael OMNIPOTENT POTENTATE, and GRAND EXALTED INQUISITOR in the 32nd DEGREE On Monday, February 01, 1999 9:18 AM, J FROST [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: -Caveat Lector- It is not common to find people working with the express goal of organizing a world-wide educational and activist network for libertarian ideals. But the International Libertarian Nework (ILN) (see /// Statism: The practice or doctrine of giving a centralized government control over economic planning and policy. So Liberterians get a bunch of people to jump on THEIR BAND WAGON so the government does not control economics ... and they put Liberterians in office Now the Liberterians are the government and they/liberterians/the government make the policies/control our economics ! Heh, heh reminds me of the dog I had when I was a kid round and round he would go chasing his own tail. If Liberterians want to empower the people then which segment of the people do they wish to empower? * The party bosses * The majority * Some miniority * Those who bribe the party bosses? Politicians can not represent all the people so tell me which segment of the people they intend to serve? Republicans, natural law, democrats, liberterians ... All a bunch of greedy jerks who wants the lemmings of the world to serve them. . DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] SNET: Who should control USA Gov't?
-Caveat Lector- Agent Polecat: I see you are still playing that weak agent provocateur role. If I were you I wouldn't give up my day job. I find it quite illuminating that you run that ALLIGATOR MOUTH about THIS country so much in all of your boring posts -- while your HUMMINGBIRD ASS is parked over there in some OTHER country. What's wrong with that picture? Who is pulling YOUR chain? Why don't YOU express YOUR displeasure with this government TO the government entities personally, instead of trying to manipulate/agitate everyone else to do it? Here are some links for your complaining convenience: http://www.thecodex.com/ My 2 cents' worth. ME On Sunday, January 31, 1999 1:46 PM, Franklin Wayne Poley [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: - SNETNEWS Mailing List On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, J FROST wrote: Subject: 021.001 "PATRIOTS" or FASCIST AGENTS? Should the American people be in control of their own government? I don't think the American people have the WILL to control their own government so I suggest you turn it over to us in BC with our new "Cyberdemocracy". If yo'all insist on having someone else tell you how to think we'll do it for you. FWP. - Send "subscribe snetnews " to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Posted by: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FW: NUFOIA: Professer Gets Chip Implant - The Wave Of The Future?...Or The Mark of The Beast???
-Original Message- From: Steve Walker [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 25, 1999 11:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:NUFOIA: Professer Gets Chip Implant - The Wave Of The Future?...Or The Mark of The Beast??? SIGHTINGS Professer Gets Chip Implant - The Wave Of The Future? CNN news By Sam Witt 1-15-99 (IDG) -- Is the human body a fit place for a microchip? The debate is no longer hypothetical. The same computing power that once required an entire building to harness now can be inserted in your left arm. Better yet, somebody else's left arm. Professor Kevin Warwick, director of cybernetics at the University of Reading in the U.K., is that somebody else. On Monday, Aug. 24,1998, Warwick became the first human to host a microchip. During a 20-minute medical procedure described as "a routine silicon-chip implant" by Dr. George Boulos, who led the operation, doctors inserted into Warwick's arm a glass capsule not much bigger than a pearl. The capsule holds several microprocessors. The British Broadcasting Corp. was on hand to document the historic event - and to trouble the professor's already frayed nerves. "In theory, I was able to see what was going on," Warwick says in a phone interview several days after the operation (which he described as slightly more pleasant than a trip to the dentist), "but I was looking in the opposite direction most of the time." Although Warwick winces at the comparison, Boulos likens him to a latter-day Edward Jenner, who injected himself with cowpox in 1776 to further his research into a smallpox vaccine. "The doctor pinched the skin and lifted it up and sort of burrowed a hole underneath the skin and on top of themuscle," Warwick says. "It's well inside my body, in my left arm, just above my elbow. [It's] held in place by three stitches - partly so that the wound is held together, but also so that the capsule doesn't float around anywhere." Though he declines to reveal the chip's manufacturer, Warwick did disclose that it's a "commercial" product. "For obvious reasons, both positive and negative, they didn't want us shouting about what the name of the exact product was," he says. The approximately 23mm-by-3mm device stayed in Warwick's arm for only nine days - partly to avoid medical complications, partly because it was fairly limited in power. "Half of it is an electric coil,"Warwick says, "and half is a number of silicon chips." The chips used only eight of an available 64 bits of information to communicate with the University of Reading's intelligent building. Which brings us to the question: Why? Warwick has spent more than 20 years researching and developing intelligent buildings. "In our building in the Cybernetics department, we've got quite a number of doorways rigged up so that they pass a radio signal between the door frame," he says. "When I go through the doorways, the radio signal energizes the coil. It produces an electric current, which the chips use to send out an identifying signal, which the computer recognizes as being me." And so, for a little better than a week, doors that normally require smart cards swung open for the professor. A system of electronic nodes tracked his movements throughout the building. Lights blinked on when he entered a room. "Hello, Professor Warwick," his PC announced when Warwick crossed the threshold of his office, before casually mentioning how many E-mail messages he had received. It also was reported that Warwick used the device to run a bath and chill his wine. Warwick How did he like it? "In my building I feel much more powerful, in a mental way," Warwick says. "Not at one with the computer, but much, much closer. We're not separate. It's not as though we're good friends or anything. But certainly when I'm out of the building, I feel as though part of me is missing." Asked if he named his chip, Warwick laughs. "I don't see it as a separate thing," he says. "It's like an arm or a leg." Warwick's family was a little slower than his body to accept the chip. "My wife finds it really strange," he says. "She didn't want to go near my arm for a couple of days. It was as though I had some funny disease." His 16-year-old daughter reportedly called him "crazy." And the day after the operation, Warwick played a game of squash with his son, but not before issuing a stern warning: "Whatever you do, don't hit my arm. The implant could just shatter, and you'll have ruined your father's arm for life." Real-world applications Though the experiment sounds like an episode of Dr. Who, its real-world implications are "right around thecorner," says Warwick, who foresees enormous medical applications. Through a
[CTRL] SPY CENTRAL
-Caveat Lector- http://www.thecodex.com/ DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Choose a Leader that urinates on you
-Caveat Lector- Why don't you ask Hitler if he might consider dropping all that "Aryan stuff"? Then you could be in the position to vote for him Thank you for that illuminating tidbit about Hitler enjoying urinating on his neice. Sounds like a nice guy to vote for. ME On Wednesday, January 27, 1999 11:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Although I don't believe in white-supremacism Hitler was a great leader. He took an in debt, no-army, depression-ridden country and turned it into a superpower. If he would drop the whole Aryan stuff I would vote for him. PS: Hitler had an illicit affair with his niece. He enjoyed urinated on her. Her name was Avon Brown, research it. If you don't believe me. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Driver's License Photos Are Being Sold
-Caveat Lector- http://www.charleston.net/pub/news/state/dmvpho0128.htm DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Earth First Group and NWO
-Caveat Lector- Correction: I should have written "How DO the actions of the Earth First group assist the NWO agenda?". Who are these "Hurwitz's" you refer to? Are you trying to say HOROWITZ (as in TONTO) by any chance? If so, it sounds like you are suggesting the Jews of the world are the NWO accomplices. Of course there are some Jews involved in that agenda, however, it would not be KOSHER to suggest ALL Jews are conspiring in this regard. ME On Friday, January 22, 1999 6:09 PM, Daniel Holly [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: -Caveat Lector- They don't ... Earth First are cool.The Hurwitz's of the world are the NWO accomplices. D -Original Message- From: Michael Estes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, January 22, 1999 8:50 PM Subject: [CTRL] Earth First Group and NWO -Caveat Lector- You are correct about the NWO creep. If things continue along their present course then most everyone, in the not-too-distant future, will be shouting HEIL GORBACHEV (who I suspect is waiting in the wings to be the Planetary Emperor). I just read Clancey's latest book RAINBOW 6 and it painted a picture of this Earth First group as "terrorists." How does the actions of the Earth First group assist the NWO agenda? ME DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] SNET: Clinton Prepares for NBC (Biological) Terrorist Attack on U.S. Within 24 months
-Caveat Lector- Regarding this statement: "In fact, Clinton has tipped his hand and unknowingly (or purposely) let it slip that the attack on U.S. Citizens and civilians WILL definitely be biological or germ warfare." I could be mistaken, but I don't recall hearing Clinton say (or reading that Clinton said) we would *DEFINITELY* be attacked by biological or germ warfare. Where did you get that statement? The actual statement is: "WASHINGTON -- President Clinton said Thursday that it is "*HIGHLY LIKELY*" that a terrorist group will launch or threaten a germ or chemical attack on American soil within the next few years." Clinton aside, anyone with any kind of AWARENESS realizes that sooner or later this country will be the target of a biological or chemical attack, probably by Islamic Terrorists. I would even go so far as to suggest it will probably happen this year, since these subjects are being PRESENTED to the masses at this particular space/time nexus. It makes perfectly good sense to attempt to counter an attack that one can reasonably assume is on the way. What would YOU suggest to counter this potential threat? Is there any doubt this chemical/biological attack scenario could be used to initiate (to use YOUR words) "the Emergency War Powers Act to invoke martial law, suspend the U.S. Constitution, put FEMA and the United Nations fighting 'Peace FORCES' in charge of the United States, confiscate ALL weapons from civilians, Citizens, Patriots, Constitutionalists, and Civilian Militias, give up our sovereignty and turn our nation over to the control of the United Nations under the New World Order" (end quote)? Of course this is a possibility/probability, but that is beside the point. Another statement you make is: "Why does Clinton want to have terrorists attack the U.S.?" Now how do you know all that? Show me where this was stated. Unless you have the facts, you can only ASSUME that Clinton thinks that, unless you are very psychic. You do YOUR cause (whatever that is) more harm than good by stretching the facts and making statements that are obviously false. It is ok to talk about what a LIAR Clinton is, but you might want to practice what you preach: "Why do you see the splinter which is in your brother's eye, and do not feel the beam which is in your own eye?" -- HOLY BIBLE, MATTHEW 7:3, GEORGE M. LAMSA's Translation from the ARAMAIC of the PESHITTA. (most accurate English translation available) For information on the CIA's GENOCIDE EARLY WARNING CENTER, which was just recently revealed to the public, see the following link: http://news.flora.org/flora.mai-not/8648 ME On Friday, January 22, 1999 5:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: - SNETNEWS Mailing List (sent to USCMike1's 12,750+ readers - please re-post to your own mailing lists) "Clinton Prepares for NBC (Biological) Terrorist Attack on U.S. Within 24 months" Dear Citizens and Patriots: Please read the below mainstream press report (New York Times) on Clinton appropriating over $10 Billion to protect the U.S. from an impending (within 24 months) NBC - Nuclear, Biological, Chemical warfare attack using weapons of mass destruction as to be perpetrated by "international" and/or "domestic" terrorists upon the Citizens of these United States of America. Notice how Clinton keeps hyping it and trying to "egg on" some nebulous, unknown "terrorists." When that has not worked Clinton bombed Iraq, Sudan, Afganistan, Lebanon, Pakistsan, etc. to provoke the Islamics into attacking the United States. Why does Clinton want to have terrorists attack the U.S.? So that he can use the Emergency War Powers Act to invoke martial law, suspend the U.S. Constitution, put FEMA and the United Nations fighting "Peace FORCES" in charge of the United States, confiscate ALL weapons from civilians, Citizens, Patriots, Constitutionalists, and Civilian Militias, give up our sovereignty and turn our nation over to the control of the United Nations under the New World Order. In fact, Clinton has tipped his hand and unknowingly (or purposely) let it slip that the attack on U.S. Citizens and civilians WILL definitely be biological or germ warfare. Remember, in my last post I explained how the feds could save $2000 per square kilometer and even $800 per square kilometer and spend only $1 per square kilometer to exterminate all human life within that small 1/4 square mile area? How would he know unless he was planning to do it himself? And notice the value is in U.S. dollars NOT foreign money! Just listen to The New York Times quoting Clinton: 'Clinton said that of all the new threats, the one that "keeps me awake at night" is the possibility of germ attack. "A chemical attack would be horrible, but it would be finite," he said, adding that it would not spread. But a biological attack could spread, he added, "kind of like the gift that keeps on giving." That, Citizens
[CTRL] SNET: Clinton Prepares for NBC (Biological) Terrorist Attack on U.S. Within 24 months
-Caveat Lector- Regarding this statement: "In fact, Clinton has tipped his hand and unknowingly (or purposely) let it slip that the attack on U.S. Citizens and civilians WILL definitely be biological or germ warfare." I could be mistaken, but I don't recall hearing Clinton say (or reading that Clinton said) we would *DEFINITELY* be attacked by biological or germ warfare. Where did you get that statement? The actual statement is: "WASHINGTON -- President Clinton said Thursday that it is "*HIGHLY LIKELY*" that a terrorist group will launch or threaten a germ or chemical attack on American soil within the next few years." Clinton aside, anyone with any kind of AWARENESS realizes that sooner or later this country will be the target of a biological or chemical attack, probably by Islamic Terrorists. I would even go so far as to suggest it will probably happen this year, since these subjects are being PRESENTED to the masses at this particular space/time nexus. It makes perfectly good sense to attempt to counter an attack that one can reasonably assume is on the way. What would YOU suggest to counter this potential threat? Is there any doubt this chemical/biological attack scenario could be used to initiate (to use YOUR words) "the Emergency War Powers Act to invoke martial law, suspend the U.S. Constitution, put FEMA and the United Nations fighting 'Peace FORCES' in charge of the United States, confiscate ALL weapons from civilians, Citizens, Patriots, Constitutionalists, and Civilian Militias, give up our sovereignty and turn our nation over to the control of the United Nations under the New World Order" (end quote)? Of course this is a possibility/probability, but that is beside the point. Another statement you make is: "Why does Clinton want to have terrorists attack the U.S.?" Now how do you know all that? Show me where this was stated. Unless you have the facts, you can only ASSUME that Clinton thinks that, unless you are very psychic. You do YOUR cause (whatever that is) more harm than good by stretching the facts and making statements that are obviously false. It is ok to talk about what a LIAR Clinton is, but you might want to practice what you preach: "Why do you see the splinter which is in your brother's eye, and do not feel the beam which is in your own eye?" -- HOLY BIBLE, MATTHEW 7:3, GEORGE M. LAMSA's Translation from the ARAMAIC of the PESHITTA. (most accurate English translation available) For information on the CIA's GENOCIDE EARLY WARNING CENTER, which was just recently revealed to the public, see the following link: http://news.flora.org/flora.mai-not/8648 ME On Friday, January 22, 1999 5:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: - SNETNEWS Mailing List (sent to USCMike1's 12,750+ readers - please re-post to your own mailing lists) "Clinton Prepares for NBC (Biological) Terrorist Attack on U.S. Within 24 months" Dear Citizens and Patriots: Please read the below mainstream press report (New York Times) on Clinton appropriating over $10 Billion to protect the U.S. from an impending (within 24 months) NBC - Nuclear, Biological, Chemical warfare attack using weapons of mass destruction as to be perpetrated by "international" and/or "domestic" terrorists upon the Citizens of these United States of America. Notice how Clinton keeps hyping it and trying to "egg on" some nebulous, unknown "terrorists." When that has not worked Clinton bombed Iraq, Sudan, Afganistan, Lebanon, Pakistsan, etc. to provoke the Islamics into attacking the United States. Why does Clinton want to have terrorists attack the U.S.? So that he can use the Emergency War Powers Act to invoke martial law, suspend the U.S. Constitution, put FEMA and the United Nations fighting "Peace FORCES" in charge of the United States, confiscate ALL weapons from civilians, Citizens, Patriots, Constitutionalists, and Civilian Militias, give up our sovereignty and turn our nation over to the control of the United Nations under the New World Order. In fact, Clinton has tipped his hand and unknowingly (or purposely) let it slip that the attack on U.S. Citizens and civilians WILL definitely be biological or germ warfare. Remember, in my last post I explained how the feds could save $2000 per square kilometer and even $800 per square kilometer and spend only $1 per square kilometer to exterminate all human life within that small 1/4 square mile area? How would he know unless he was planning to do it himself? And notice the value is in U.S. dollars NOT foreign money! Just listen to The New York Times quoting Clinton: 'Clinton said that of all the new threats, the one that "keeps me awake at night" is the possibility of germ attack. "A chemical attack would be horrible, but it would be finite," he said, adding that it would not spread. But a biological attack could spread, he added, "kind of like the gift that keeps on giving." That,
[CTRL] Earth First Group and NWO
-Caveat Lector- You are correct about the NWO creep. If things continue along their present course then most everyone, in the not-too-distant future, will be shouting HEIL GORBACHEV (who I suspect is waiting in the wings to be the Planetary Emperor). I just read Clancey's latest book RAINBOW 6 and it painted a picture of this Earth First group as "terrorists." How does the actions of the Earth First group assist the NWO agenda? ME On Thursday, January 21, 1999 8:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/21/99 11:35:19 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: LYNDA'S COMMENT: Robert does have a point, if only to the extent that the NWO in many respects is already here, and has slithered in through the back door while we were watching football and/or masturbating. But if we subscribe to the gist of his argument, well then damn!... we might as well just bend over for Big Brother right now. Crawl into the closet and cry. Trade in our guns for Wal-Mart gift certificates and raise the white flag of spineless submission. Lynda, Please don't take my comments as targeting you *personally.* My point is that we are already submitting ourselves to the NWO in many areas, and we continue to do so. The NWO bunch is very clever. They know if you roll tanks and put up concentration camps, the American public would REBEL. But if you slip it in gradually taking say 50-100 years to implement your plan, then the people will stand blindly by. In 1913 we implemented a Central bank in the US, 1917 we implemented income tax, 1944 we subverted ourselves to International finance through the Bretton Woods conference, 1945 was the UN just to name a few things of the early years. In more recent years we have submitted ourselves to GATT and NAFTA and of late the World Court. Now that the EU has their own currency, you can bet that business leaders in the US, Canada, and central.south America will be howling about the competition, about how we need one currency to be competitive etc etc. Guess whats going to happen in the not too distant future..which is exactly what the NWO crowd wants. They are working on a so called "asian" type Union (sister to EU and NAFTA), along with plans for one currency and all that. Guess what, you have just converted the world from many countries and many currencys, to three major blocks and three currencys. Once you have accomplished that converting everybody to ONE currency will not be a big deal, although it will probably take place approx 15-20 years after the last of the major blocks converts to their own currency. The enviro's also use this exact process to accomplish their goals. The Earth First gang (who works closely with the NWO gang) has come up with plans to have 48 percent of America to be "human free." One of the people was interviewed said that they realized that their goal will not happen in the short term, but in the long term over 25-40 years (2030-2040) they will accomplish their goal.Well you ask, how would they do that, after all the American public would rise up and fight? No they wouldn't because it was done gradually. Years ago I lived in the Mojave Desert in California. My family and I did all the outdoors kind of stuff, and fought like hell to prevent the government from grabbing our land. So called patriots at the time said "well it will never happen here...blah blah blah. I moved away 20 years ago, and within the past 5 years many of the areas I traveled through/on are now fenced off wilderness. The people in Calif fought the battle and lost and have moved on with their lives. Of late people that I know down there say that the land that is actually open for use, is being used so heavily, it is unbelievable. Guess what is going to be closed next, using the justification that the land is being damaged blah blah. The people that peddled the wilderness areas in the first place had the goal of sealing off the entire desert BUT they couldn't do it all at once, so they do it piece meal and get everything they want over a period of 20 years. Our farmers have to submit any trade dispute through NAFTA/GATT. Anytime you ship a "hazardous material", motor oil, hair spray, lube etc, you submit to NWO regulations.When the US shipping regs are changed to the "international" shipping regs, everytime we ship something we are submitting ourselves to the NWO. As long as change comes gradually, people as a whole will not rise up and complain. Speaking of change, what about Hustler being labeled a "news magazine." Thats quite a change from even 5 years ago. While the NWO may indeed be already here to one extent or another, the actual form that it finally takes is far, *FAR* from a foregone conclusion. And furthermore, the form that it finally takes or Tell that to the
[CTRL] Alien Footage
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Re: [CTRL] Falwell: Antichrist May Be MUSLIM
-Caveat Lector- On Wednesday, January 20, 1999 6:10 AM, Lyn McCloskey [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Damn! How much new business opportunity is there for Falwell in this little gem? - Lynda -- Falwell: Antichrist May Be Alive By Sonja Barisic Associated Press Writer Saturday, January 16, 1999; 2:02 a.m. EST WILLIAMSBURG, Va. (AP) -- In a speech about the concern people have over the new millennium, the Rev. Jerry Falwell said the Antichrist is probably alive today and is a male MUSLIM. Falwell also told about 1,500 people at a conference in Kingsport, Tenn., on Thursday that he believes the second coming of Christ probably will be within 10 years. "Who will the Antichrist be? I don't know. Nobody else knows," said Falwell, whose Sunday morning services at Thomas Road Baptist Church in Lynchburg are carried by television stations nationwide. "Is he alive and here today? Probably. Because when he appears during the Tribulation period he will be a full-grown counterfeit of Christ. Of course he'll be MUSLIM. Of course he'll pretend to be Christ. And if in fact the Lord is coming soon, and he'll be an adult at the presentation of himself, he must be alive somewhere today." According to the Bible, the Antichrist will spread universal evil before the end of the world but will be conquered at the second coming of Christ. Falwell said Friday in Williamsburg that he did not intend for his statement to be anti-MUSLIM. He said he meant only that the Antichrist must be MUSLIM because Jesus Christ was a Jew. "If he's going to be the counterfeit of Christ, he has to be MUSLIM," Falwell said. "The only thing we know is he must be male and MUSLIM." Rabbi James Rudin of the American Jewish Committee in New York said the comment surprised him because he knows Falwell is a strong supporter of Israel and is not anti-MUSLIM. "This is part of what I call millennial madness," Rudin said. "To single out any one man, and particularly to identify him as MUSLIM, plays into some latent and historical anti-MUSLIMism from the past. "This is very, very radioactive material. I think Christian leaders have to exercise great care because this can produce negative responses among people who are not educated in the New Testament," he said. ? Copyright 1999 The Associated Press DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FW: NUFOIA: Doc Barry: 1927-1999
-Caveat Lector- I didn't always agree with his point of view either, but then I sometimes don't always agree with my opinion either! ME On Monday, January 18, 1999 9:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/18/99 2:48:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Doc Barry is now taking that mysterious journey all of us will have to take at some point in the not-too-distant future. I am sure that, as soon as he gets acclimated to his current time/space location/level, he will be continuing to illuminate and SHOCK the masses over there by telling them What's up! Doc Barry enjoyed the respect of many people, including myself. In memory of Doc Barry I will continue to keep a link to his web site, and I am pleased that someone is going to be continuing to maintain that site. FAREWELL to a Cyber Space Friend. Well, he was briefly on board here, and while I didn't always agree with what he had to say it was good to have his point of view. I'm sure many will miss him. Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FW: NUFOIA: Doc Barry: 1927-1999
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Michael Estes [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 18, 1999 11:50 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject:RE: NUFOIA: Doc Barry: 1927-1999 Doc Barry is now taking that mysterious journey all of us will have to take at some point in the not-too-distant future. I am sure that, as soon as he gets acclimated to his current time/space location/level, he will be continuing to illuminate and SHOCK the masses over there by telling them What's up! Doc Barry enjoyed the respect of many people, including myself. In memory of Doc Barry I will continue to keep a link to his web site, and I am pleased that someone is going to be continuing to maintain that site. FAREWELL to a Cyber Space Friend. Michael Estes http://members.tripod.com/~Gateway2Infinity/index.html On Monday, January 18, 1999 8:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Stargate/5518/ Doc Barry and I were friends for 33 years, and neighbors for the past seven; Wednesday, January, 13th he was admitted to the hospital with congestive heart failure... he didn't survive. I'll miss him a great deal, but I won't grieve anymore; not in the accepted sense of the word, I did that yesterday; from now on, I'll celebrate his life-- I'll celebrate his life daily with remembrances of our daily laughter, and with the line: "It's great to be alive in Phoenix, Arizona" which was followed up immediately with George Burns' line: "At my age it's great to be alive ANYWHERE!" I'll celebrate his life daily with the solace I'll find in the additional laughter evoked by the many, many memories we created and shared... But most of all, I'll celebrate his life daily with the memory of the man; a warm, sensitive human being whose kindness and generosity knew no bounds... I'll remember Doc Barry as a man who defined the word "FRIEND"... I'll miss him! Bud Kolb 01/15/99 In Celebration Of My Friend's Life Doc Barry August 18, 1927 - January 13, 1999 For any of you who may wish to continue Doc's website, I have renamed it so it can be easily downloaded or transloaded intact... For those of you who enjoyed the music he used on his website, I suggest that you visit: The Doc Barry Memorial Midi Library Anyone wishing to express condolences can reach me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I will pass them on to the family. eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/list/ufolist Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Warren Commission top investigator dead at 70.
-Caveat Lector- Anyone that thinks the driver killed Kennedy is ignorant, uninformed, and/or delusional. As Doc Barry would probably say: I'm SHOCKED, SHOCKED! That thepory is more sublimely ridiculous than this man's judgement on the matter -- Earl Warren. http://cnn.com/US/9901/18/belin.obit/index.html ME On Sunday, January 17, 1999 9:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/17/99 3:49:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Go ahead folks. Bring it on. Start with character assination and name calling and attempts at discrediting. I challenge all to tell me why I shouldn't report this here. Incidentally, I backed this video up and forwarded it enough times to witness this about forty times. Some time ago, someone sent me to a website that was supposed to let me know what really happened in response to an allusion that the driver was complicit and a murderer, a political assassin. At this site, I saw an image of the very situation I here describe and I saw the gun. Apparently, the photo was not intended. I reported to the webmaster that that very photo contradicted his take on it and now the website no longer exists. smile The idea that the Zapruder film has been tampered with is still an issue that is brought up by researchers all the time, so it is possible that much happened that we don't know about or can't rightly comment on. But I just think you are wrong. The driver did not kill Kennedy, that is not to say that he did no wrong for even if he did nothing more than the dramatic slow down that many witnesses attest to (or a full stop as some researchers claim) it was bad enough. The new Video Kenn Thomas mentions is a great one to take a look at, you should be able to rent it at a Blockbuster near you, "Image of an assassination". Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mind Control 101
-Caveat Lector- I would like to have your opinion (or anyone's opinion) on this site: http://www.monroe-inst.com/ Would you consider this "mind control"? ME On Friday, January 15, 1999 7:44 AM, Kenn Thomas [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: -Caveat Lector- A reminder and two updates: 1. [Reminder] The mind control work of Jose DelGado can be found in my book, Mind Control, Oswald JFK, which reprints Were We Controlled from 1968. As the book points out, the technology for this at that time was 30 years old--based on Russian neuroscience. 2. Patrick Flanagan, author of Pyramid Power as well as the person responsible for neurophone, recently suffered the tragic loss of his wife Gayle, of natural causes. The Flanagans are connected to the HAARP and non-lethel weapons research work of Dr. Nick Begich. 3. Louis Joylon West died last week. Check this out for more: http://wire.ap.org/APnews/center_story.html?FRONTID=NATIONALSTORYID=APIS6QACN 5O0 "Mind control" is a spectrum of operations that can range from subtle to severe, from suggestive psychology to oppressive high-tech gizmos with real physical effects. Television, obviously, the ultimate mind control device. Kenn Thomas DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] JFK MURDER is not SOLVED va this post -
-Caveat Lector- Agent Smiley: You just demonstrated your current level of ignorance. If you think the driver of the freaking limo wasted Kennedy, then I have a ALIEN ABDUCTION/CRASH INSURANCE policy to sell you . I am amazed that someone could be that freaking ignorant as to believe a crock of horse sheet like this. What kind of an "AGENT" are you supposed to be? AGENT of the ILLUMINATI? AGENT PROVOCATEUR? KGB? Real Estate Agent? IRAQI INTELLIGENCE? Whatever you are an "Agent" of, I suggest you do some research before letting that alligator mouth overload that hummingbird ass. ME On Friday, January 08, 1999 11:38 AM, Agent Smiley [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Sorry but this website is either misinformed or more disinformation. In the UNEDITED version of the Zapruder film it is CLEAR who fired the second shot, the one that took his face off. His name is William Harris and he was driving the limo at the time. He was a member of the Secret Service. How does one expose the highest police body in the nation. This is why this murder is still 'unsolved.' DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] SERMON: WHO WAS KING JAMES
-Caveat Lector- WHO WAS KING JAMES For the last three centuries Protestants have fancied themselves the heirs of the Reformation, the Puritans, the Calvinists, and the Pilgrims who landed at Plymouth Rock. This assumption is one of histories greatest ironies. Today, Protestants laboring under that assumption use the King James Bible. Most of the new Bibles such as the Revised Standard Version are simply updates of the King James. The irony is that none of the groups named in the preceding paragraph used a King James Bible nor would they have used it if it had been given to them free. The Bible in use by those groups, until it went out of print in 1644, was the Geneva Bible. The first Geneva Bible, both Old and New Testaments, was first published in English in 1560 in what is now Geneva, Switzerland. William Shakespeare, John Bunyan, John Milton, the Pilgrims who landed on Plymouth Rock in 1620, and other luminaries of that era used the Geneva Bible exclusively. Until he had his own version named after him, so did King James I of England. James I later tried to disclaim any knowledge of the Geneva Bible, though he quoted the Geneva Bible in his own writings. As a Professor Eadie reported it: "his virtual disclaimer of all knowledge up to a late period of the Genevan notes and version was simply a bold, unblushing falsehood, a clumsy attempt to sever himself and his earlier Scottish beliefs and usages that he might win favor with his English churchmen." The irony goes further. King James did not encourage a translation of the Bible in order to enlighten the common people: his sole intent was to deny them the marginal notes of the Geneva Bible. The marginal notes of the Geneva version were what made it so popular with the common people. The King James Bible was, and is for all practical purposes, a government publication. There were several reasons for the King James Bible being a government publication. First, King James I of England was a devout believer in the "divine right of kings," a philosophy ingrained in him by his mother Mary Stuart. Mary Stuart may have been having an affair with her Italian secretary, David Rizzio, at the time she conceived James. There is a better than even chance that James was the product of adultery. Apparently, enough evidence of such conduct on the part of Mary Stuart and David Rizio existed to cause various Scot nobles, including Mary's own husband, King Henry, to drag David Rizzio from Mary's supper table and execute him. The Scot nobles hacked and slashed at the screaming Rizzio with knives and swords, and then threw him off a balcony to the courtyard below where he landed with a sickening smack. In the phrase of that day, he had been scotched. Mary did have affairs with other men, such as the Earl of Bothwell. She later tried to execute her husband in a gunpowder explosion that shook all of Edinburgh. King Henry survived the explosion only to be suffocated later that same night. The murderers were never discovered. Mary was eventually beheaded at the order of her cousin, Elizabeth I of England. To such individuals as James and his mother, Mary, the "divine right of kings" meant that since a king's power came from God, the king then had to answer to no one but God. This lack of responsibility extended to evil kings. The reasoning was that if a king was evil, that was a punishment sent from God. The citizens should then suffer in silence. If a king was good, that was a blessing sent from God. This is why the Geneva Bible annoyed King James I. The Geneva Bible had marginal notes that simply didn't conform to that point of view. Those marginal notes had been, to a great extent, placed in the Geneva Bible by the leaders of the Reformation, including John Knox and John Calvin. Knox and Calvin could not and cannot be dismissed lightly or their opinions passed off to the public as the mere ditherings of dissidents. First, notes such as, "When tyrants cannot prevail by craft they burst forth into open rage," (Note i, Exodus 1:22) really bothered King James. Second, religion in James' time was not what it is today. In that era religion was controlled by the government. If someone lived in Spain at the time, he had three religious "choices:" 1. Roman Catholicism 2. Silence. 3. The Inquisition The third "option" was reserved for "heretics," or people who didn't think the way the government wanted them to. To governments of that era heresy and treason were synonymous. England wasn't much different. From the time of Henry VIII on, an Englishman had three choices 1. The Anglican Church. 2. Silence. 3. The rack, burning at the stake, being drawn and quartered, or some other form of persuasion. The hapless individuals who fell into the hands of the government for holding religious opinions of their own were simply punished according to the royal whim. Henry Vl11, once he had appointed himself head of all the English churches, kept the Roman Catholic system
[CTRL] POLITICS 101
-Caveat Lector- FEUDALISM: You have two cows. Your lord takes some of the milk. PURE SOCIALISM: You have two cows. The government takes them and puts them in a barn with everyone else's cows. You have to take care of all the cows. The government gives you as much milk as you need. BUREAUCRATIC SOCIALISM: You have two cows. The government takes them and puts them in a barn with everyone else's cows. They are cared for by ex-chicken farmers. You have to take care of the chickens the government took from the chicken farmers. The government gives you as much milk and as many eggs as the regulations say you should need. FASCISM: You have two cows. The government takes both, hires you to take care of them, and sells you the milk. PURE COMMUNISM: You have two cows. Your neighbors help you take care of them, and you all share the milk. RUSSIAN COMMUNISM: You have two cows. You have to take care of them, but the government takes all the milk. DICTATORSHIP: You have two cows. The government takes both and shoots you. SINGAPOREAN DEMOCRACY: You have two cows. The government fines you for keeping two unlicensed farm animals in an apartment. MILITARIANISM: You have two cows. The government takes both and drafts you. PURE DEMOCRACY: You have two cows. Your neighbors decide who gets the milk. REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY: You have two cows. Your neighbors pick someone to tell you who gets the milk. AMERICAN DEMOCRACY: The government promises to give you two cows if you vote for it. After the election, the president is impeached for speculating in cow futures. The press dubs the affair "Cowgate". BRITISH DEMOCRACY: You have two cows. You feed them sheeps' brains and they go mad. The government doesn't do anything. BUREAUCRACY: You have two cows. At first the government regulates what you can feed them and when you can milk them. Then it pays you not to milk them. After that it takes both, shoots one, milks the other and pours the milk down the drain. Then it requires you to fill out forms accounting for the missing cows.. ANARCHY: You have two cows. Either you sell the milk at a fair price or your neighbors try to kill you and take the cows. CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull. HONG KONG CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell three of them to your publicly - listed company, using letters of credit opened by your brother - in - law at the bank, then execute a debt / equity swap with associated general offer so that you get all four cows back, with a tax deduction for keeping five cows. The milk rights of six cows are transferred via a Panamanian intermediary to a Cayman Islands company secretly owned by the majority shareholder, who sells the rights to all seven cows' milk back to the listed company. The annual report says that the company owns eight cows, with an option on one more. Meanwhile, you kill the two cows because the fung shiu is bad. ENVIRONMENTALISM: You have two cows. The government bans you from milking or killing them. FEMINISM: You have two cows. They get married and adopt a veal calf. TOTALITARIANISM: You have two cows. The government takes them and denies they ever existed. Milk is banned. COUNTER CULTURE: Wow, dude, there's like... these two cows, man. You got to have some of this milk. SURREALISM: You have two giraffes. The government requires you to take harmonica lessons. LIBERTARIANISM: You have two cows. One has actually read the constitution, believes in it, and has some really good ideas about government. The cow runs for office, and while most people agree that the cow is the best candidate, nobody except the other cow votes for her because they think it would be "throwing their vote away." DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [EWAR] WARNING, WARNING - PLEASE READ IMMEDIATELY!
-Caveat Lector- Thanks for posting that. I am sending this far and wide. ME -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 31, 1998 3:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[CTRL] Fwd: [EWAR] WARNING, WARNING - PLEASE READ IMMEDIATELY! Message: [EWAR] WARNING, WARNING - PLEASE READ IMMEDIATELY! I can't confirm this stuff, but if it's true, we're all in trouble. The police state is here. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] WAG the Urantia book
-Caveat Lector- How much would you bet I haven't read the URANTIA book? You seem to be quite confused. You might want to seek counseling from your spiritual advisor. ME GRAND POOBAH, OMNIPOTENT POTENTATE, and EXALTED GRAND INQUISITOR in the 32nd degree -Original Message- From: Dave Ford [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 1998 3:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [CTRL] United States of Urantia -Caveat Lector- Kind of reminds you of the horse hockey that the bible spews out or what the believers say that you should believe in any way. The same kind of research done there brings up the same questions of believability. Many so called facts are just that, so called. Much of what is written in the bible occured many years after the death of Jesus [new testement I mean] . Fact, folklore, embellished ideas to fit a certain groups core beliefs, background, socialization, or opinions. Some say the bible is inspired writings, I`m sure it is. But directly from god? That`s open to interpretation of the reader. The old testement is a wonderful series of stories of a certain people`s history. I would certainly bet that handyman has never even flipped through the Urantia book. much less read it. This book is open to a person`s own interpretations and beliefs but you must first it read before you can interpret or judge it. It won`t bite you. Some people think that the Urantia book is for forward looking individuals, a college course if you will, and that the bible was just a warm up, a primer. You should read and judge things for youself . Who knows,maybe there is something to learn here.And what`s wrong with learning something even something new? Dave DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Brain Wave Paradigms
-Caveat Lector- Great post. I forwarded it to Wanderers list and Voyagers list (Monroe Institute). ME http://members.tripod.com/~Gateway2Infinity/index.html -Original Message- From: Lloyd Miller [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 20, 1998 11:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[CTRL] Brain Wave Paradigms -Caveat Lector- -Original Message- Date: Saturday, December 19, 1998 1:34 AM Subject: Altered States newsletter no 28 Altered States newsletter no 28 Dear friends hi This month I thought we might have a look at Brain Waves. But first we would like to thank you for your support and patience, and wish you a very happy holiday Break, a prosperous new year in your chosen subject, and lots of good happenings. Brain Waves... Studies have shown that the vibrations from rhythmic sounds have a profound effect on brain activity. In shamanic traditions, drums were used in periodic rhythm to transport the shaman into other realms of reality. The vibrations from this constant rhythm affected the brain in a very specific manner, allowing the shaman to journey out of his or her body. Brain pattern studies were recently conducted by researcher Melinda Maxfield into the (SSC) Shamanic State of Consciousness. She found that the steady rhythmic beat of the drum struck four and one half times per second was the key to transporting a shaman into the deepest part of his shamanic state of consciousness. It is no coincidence that 4.5 beats, or cycles per second corresponds to the trance like state of theta brain wave activity. In direct correlation, we see similar effects brought on by the constant and rhythmic drone of Tibetan Buddhist chants, which transport the monks and even other listeners into realms of blissful meditation. The gentle pulsating rhythms of Brain Sync , Light and sound tools and Munroe institute tapes and CD,s act in a similar fashion, the frequencies are computer generated, they are precise, consistent and can be targeted to induce highly specific and desired brain states. Just as we can tune a radio to get a particular station, with modern technology we can tune our consciousness to dial-in a wide variety of brain states. BETAAlertness, Concentration, Focus Cognition ALPHA Relaxation, Visualization, Creativity THETAIntuition, Memory, Meditation Vivid Visual Imagery DELTA Deep Sleep, Healing Detached Awareness Like sound waves, the brain has its own set of vibrations it uses to communicate with itself and the rest of the body. EEG equipment distinguishes these waves by measuring the speed with which neurons fire in cycles per second. Beta waves range between 12-40 HZ. The beta state is associated with peak concentration, heightened alertness and visual acuity. Nobel Prize Winner, Sir Francis Crick and other scientists believe that the 40HZ beta frequency used on many Brain Sync tapes may be key to the act of cognition. Beta waves also help * Focused attention . Alertness . Active mental activity . Waking consciousness . Active thought process . Energized state Alpha waves range between 8-12 HZ. This is a place of deep relaxation, but not quite meditation. In Alpha, we begin to access the wealth of creativity that lies just below our Conscious awareness - it is the gateway, the entry point that leads into deeper states of consciousness. Alpha also help * Moderate relaxation while awake * Stress reduction while working * Lucid mental states with less tension * Calmness and pleasant drifting feelings * Positive emotional state Theta waves range between 4-8 HZ. Theta is one of the more elusive and extraordinary realms we can explore. It is also known as the twilight state which we normally only experience fleetingly as we rise up out of the depths of delta upon waking, or drifting off to sleep. In theta we are in a waking dream, vivid imagery flashes before the mind's eye and we are receptive to information beyond our normal conscious awareness. Theta has also been identified as the gateway to learning and memory. Theta increases creativity, enhances learning, reduces stress and awakens intuition and other extrasensory perception skills. Theta also help * Inspirational bursts of creativity * Accelerated learning with audio motivational tapes * Deep relaxation * Increased Awareness . Vivid mental Imagery . Development of goals . Increased feeling of Pleasure . Delta waves range between 0-4 HZ. Delta is associated with deep sleep. In addition, certain frequencies in the delta range trigger the release of Growth Hormone beneficial for healing and regeneration. This is why sleep, deep restorative sleep is so essential to the healing process. Binaural beats. It has been noted that if one were to strike two tuning forks of slightly different tone pitch at the same time, one would find that there were three distinct tones rather than two. The third tone is the difference in frequency of the two tones.
