[CTRL] Sept. 11, oil and conspiracies
-Caveat Lector- http://www.columbia.edu/~lnp3/msg18479.html A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Ruppert
-Caveat Lector- http://mckinneysucks.blogspot.com/2002_06_01 _mckinneysucks_archive.html ... WhatDIDN'Treallyhappen.com. Devoted to smashing conspiracy theories and humiliating their purveyors! Monday, June 24, 2002 :: A flimsy attempt at a snappy rejoinder. A nameless blogger (another one of those valiant dissidents who's afraid of the Treasury agents underneath his bed) has tried his hand at refuting my Ruppert timeline post below. He has his own conspiracy yarns, including a Vince Foster redux, exposing the Cliff Baxter suicide sham. In any event, his prodding of my timeline focuses on items 3 and 4, in which Ruppert first claims the Unocal pipeline deal failed because the Taliban's price was too high (in 1997), and that Unocal VP John Maresca testified a year later that the deal would not be feasible unless and until a stable Afghan regime was in place. Predictably, this mystery blogger does not see the incongruity here. but presumably that doesn't necessarily follow. The 1997 negotiations could have failed over money, and the Unocal Vice President could also have testified before the House that the pipeline would not be built before there was a stable government in Afghanistan. I suppose you could make this argument if Afghanistan had slid into chaos between 1997 and 1998, but the truth of the matter is that the Taliban continued to consolidate its rule after 1996, and the country was certainly more stable (inasmuch as a country living under the most brutal, Luddite tyranny the world has seen since the Khmer Rouge can be called stable) in 1998 than 1997, when Unocal was supposedly haggling over a price. Prudent entrepreneurs ensure the investment is a secure one before they negotiate a price, not after. The argument then progresses to Unocal's recent press release stating that it no longer had any interest in building the pipeline, which we are to believe is a case, I dare say, of protesting too much. Uh-huh. If Unocal had released it out of the blue, but what he doesn't tell you is that it was in response to a report that it was the lead company in the pipeline's construction. Protesting too much is something corporations sort of have to do from time to time, as they depend of what are called investors who give special slips of paper called money for their stock, based on the decisions the corporation makes. Moron. But here's the best part of the missive: Ruppert's strength isn't in any particlar part of the timeline, but in the sheer quantity of suspicious details. So you see, it doesn't matter if none of Ruppert's weak assumptions, distortions, logic fallacies, and outright factual errors, hold any water. The fact that he is able to come up with such a wealth of idiotic arguments proves him right! It should also be noted that this despicable pig also notes (again, in what is apparently his own yarn) the fact that only one flag officer - Lt. Gen. Timothy Maude - died in the attack as proof that there was foreknowledge, snidely remarking, I guess he didn't get the memo. Thanks for reminding me why I devote so much time to humiliating you people, Mr. Xymphora. Fucktard. :: Bill Herbert 9:27 PM [+] :: ... :: Sunday, June 23, 2002 :: Mike Rupperts bullshit-riddled timeline (Part 1). NOTE: This is the first in what will be at least a 5-part series refuting Mike Rupperts conspiratorial timeline point by point. It may grow longer, as Ruppert continues to add more allegations, in lieu of actually providing evidence to support his older ones. David Corn may not have the space to devote to Rupperts entire timeline which contains most of his purported evidence of government foreknowledge of, and complicity in, the 9/11 attacks. But I do. From the top FTW, November 2, 2001 1200 PST On October 31, the French daily Le Figaro dropped a bombshell. While in a Dubai hospital receiving treatment for a chronic kidney infection last July, Osama bin Laden met with a top CIA official - presumably the Chief of Station. The meeting, held in bin Ladens private suite, took place at the American hospital in Dubai at a time when he was a wanted fugitive for the bombings of two U.S. embassies and this years attack on the U.S.S. Cole. Bin Laden was eligible for execution according to a 2000 intelligence finding issued by President Bill Clinton before leaving office in January. Yet on July 14th he was allowed to leave Dubai on a private jet and there were no Navy fighters waiting to force him down. Now, lets go back to the October 31 story by Le Figaro the one that has Osama bin Laden meeting with a CIA officer in Dubai this June. The story says that, Throughout his stay in the hospital, Osama Bin Laden received visits from many family members [There goes the story that hes a black sheep!] and Saudi Arabian Emirate personalities of status. During this time the local representative of the CIA was seen by many people taking the elevator and going to bin Ladens room.
[CTRL] Beware W32/Nimda and W95/Badtrans.B@mm
-Caveat Lector- Run your anti-virus program. I got a weird message with an attached MP3 audio file from a stranger in Mynmar/Burma? Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SLORC strikes? Subject line was, Re:Everything You Always Wanted to Know About WWP. (Not David Ruben or Woody Allen.) The McAfee and PandaSecurity.com just killed it but to be safe I'm gonna run another anti-virus program. Michael Pugliese A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] AIDS Conpiracy? Tracking Down the Real Genocide
-Caveat Lector- http://www.tao.ca/~solidarity/texts/dg/aidsconspiracy.html#Reactionary A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] On CNN Manipulating Images (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Posted to Marxmail by Jose Perez: [Following the recent spate or repostings of the charge that CNN played decade old video claiming it was Palestinians celebrating the Sep. 11 attacks, a person named Craig Gingold did the logical thing, and wrote CNN. He was immediately answered by the person in charge of newsgathering for CNN, Eason Jordan. Gingold asks that his email and Jordan's response be circulated to all lists where the charge against CNN was aired] [I do not know Craig Gingold, or if I do I don't recall who he is. But I have known Eason Jordan, the executive who answered his email, for more than a decade, at least casually, as well as observed his work, or the results of it, at fairly close range. [I'm sure if we sat down to have a philosophical or political discussion Jordan and I might disagree on countless topics. But on the level of the formal, ethical norms and standards of mainstream journalism, nothing I've ever seen him do or say nor anything I have ever heard about him would raise the slightest question in my mind about taking his probity for granted on an issue like this. [Jordan is a Georgia native who rose through the CNN. He came into CNN in his early 20s and was for five or six years the overnight person on CNN's international desk. At the end of the 1980's, as CNN grew and its international reporting expanded, he was put in charge of the growing international desk, and is especially associated with initiatives like making sure CNN kept a reporting presence in Iraq throughout the Gulf War and resisting significant pressure from the U.S. and its allies in that war to stop reporting Iraq's side of that story. [There would be, undoubtedly, countless things one might criticize from a left-wing point of view about this reporting, but even so, it must be admitted that CNN covered Iraq's side in that war to an extent that was unprecedented in the history of mainstream American journalism. Similarly, he was closely associated with things like CNN's establishing a bureau in Havana, and was the first journalist from a major Western news organization to report on North Korea, using a small DV cam to record pictures and reporting about the famine that country was facing 3 or 4 years back. He has stanchly defended CNN's hiring of Palestinian journalists and the airing of their work against a barrage of criticism from the Israeli press and government. Under Jordan, CNN's international desk became much more of a truly international desk, with staff members from all over the world, including many from the third world. A number of people that came in essentially as person-on-the-lowest-rung on the international desk (most famously Christian Amanpour but not just her) have gone on to do some of the better on-screen CNN international reporting of recent years, despite funny accents, bad delivery and faces made for radio. [Unfortunately, U.S. viewers get very little exposure to this reporting, as the CNN domestic network (the one everyone thinks of as the CNN although the truth is CNN International has many, many more subscribers) no longer carries much of this material, unlike several years ago, before Time-Warner acquired Turner broadcasting. [An interesting question for CNN to ponder might be why what is presented as an unsubstantiated rumor was given such credence. I say unsubstantiated rumor because the person who made the charge didn't even CLAIM to have the proof, and there was a strong suggestion in how he wrote about it that he'd never even seen the alleged proof. The person who was said to have the proof was an anonymous teacher. And on the *substance* of the events, there is no dispute that there were initially some expressions of celebration among Palestinians when the first reports on the attacks came through. [I do not believe such a claim would have been as easily accepted say, eight or ten years ago.] [José] * * * - Original Message - From: Craig Gingold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 8:00 PM Subject: !b_a_Act: CNN Exec Replies to Phony Video Accusation Over the last several days an extremely alarming email has been circulating on virtually every email list in existence, judging by the number of copies that I have received. The basic charge is that CNN perpetrated a knowing deception of its viewers by airing a 10-year-old videotape of Palestinians celebrating during the Gulf War, but misrepresenting it as showing celebrations of the terror attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon. I hardly need explain why this is an extremely serious accusation. The implications -- if true -- are so disturbing that I felt compelled to make an effort to ascertain the veracity of the claim. (The relevant parts of that email are at the very end of this posting.) Given the incredibly wide circulation of the email, and the fact that it is based entirely on the
[CTRL] Toward a Real History of Anti-Fascism and Anti-Bolshevism
-Caveat Lector- Message 5342 of 5601 | Previous | Next [ Up Thread ] Message Index Msg # From: Michael Pugliese [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri Aug 24, 2001 5:56 pm Subject: Causal Nexus? Toward a Real History of Anti-Fascism and Anti-Bolshevism EBSCO hits on anti-fascism. Result 8 of 18 [Go To Full Text] [Tips] Title: Causal Nexus? Toward a Real History of Anti-Fascism and Anti-Bolshevism(*). Subject(s): FASCISM; HITLER, Adolf; COMMUNISM; NATIONAL socialists Source: Telos, Winter99 Issue 114, p49, 18p Author(s): Koenen, Gerd Abstract: Focuses on the historical events of anti-fascism and anti-Bolshevism. Role of the Nazis or national socialists; Adolf Hitler as an anti-Bolshevism; End of the communism propaganda. AN: 1958636 ISSN: 0090-6514 Note: This title is held locally. Database: MasterFILE Select Print: Click here to mark for print. [Go To Citation] Select Language inglés/español anglais/français Englisch/Deutsch inglês/português inglese/italiano Best Part CAUSAL NEXUS? TOWARD A REAL HISTORY OF ANTI-FASCISM AND ANTI-BOLSHEVISM(*) The question of whether there was a causal nexus between Bolshevism in the Soviet Union and National Socialism in Germany is far older than the Historikerstreit. Ernst Nolte's controversial thesis implied that the formation of the Nazis as a party (NSDAP) and a movement, and their subsequent rise to power were hardly conceivable without the German bourgeoisie's basic fear of Bolshevism; the Nazis' exterminatory anti-Semitism was only a sort of response to, and the interpretive reversal of, the looming expectation of a Sovietized Germany. Thus, Bolshevik class genocide provided the historical model for Nazi race genocide, the annihilation of European Jews. Nolte's thesis was only a mirror-image of the postwar mythology of communist anti-fascism, according to which Stalinist collectivization and the Great Terror of the 1930s were merely prophylactic precautionary measures or simple reactions to the deadly threat of a rising National Socialism and its plans in the East. Thus, the fact that the Soviet leadership put the entire country on a war footing and pursued industrialization and re-armament irrespective of human casualties appeared extremely prescient. Even in the West, many people were ready to see things that way. In particular, this attitude corresponded to the feelings of many Soviet citizens in light of the historical 1945 victory. The fascists and the German invasion were blamed for all their sufferings and depravations, even for the millions meaninglessly repressed, who disappeared, or died in the prime of life. Revolution, civil war, collectivization, cleansing, and world war, melted into a single epoch of blood and iron. This does not alter the fact that such a view has nothing to do with 1930's realities. The rise of National Socialism was in no way seen negatively by Moscow, but rather as part of German revanchism against the Versailles Powers -- a revanchism that had become virulent during the world economic crisis, and on which certain hopes could be pinned. The secret relation between the Reichswehr and the Red Army was tense, but useful. In the course of the five-year plan, technical and economic collaboration between both countries intensified. In February 1931, a grand delegation of German business magnates from Krupp to Borsig, to Klockner and Siemens -- went to the USSR. The company heads returned impressed, and pressed the German government to secure the promised Russian orders with state guaranteed credits and securities. In 1932, almost half of Russian imports, above all technological commodities, came from Germany, exceeding imports from the US, whose companies, in the meantime, had become more committed to Russia. Moscow also attempted to court allies within the German-national and national-revolutionary intelligence communities. Thus, in January 1932, prominent figures such as Otto Hoetzsch, Klaus Mehnert, Ernst Junger, Carl Schmitt, Adolf Grabowsky, Friedrich Lenz, and Ernst Niekisch could be recruited for an Association for the Study of the Planned Economy in the USSR (Arbplan), founded by party members Georg Lukacs, Arvid von Hamack, Karl A. Wittfogel and Paul Massing. In August 1932, an Arbplan delegation traveled to Soviet Russia. In a 1941 party report, Lukacs characterized the twenty-five participants as people from the Right, with sometimes fascist ideas, who were, however, for various reasons, supporters of a pro-Soviet orientation of German politics. Even if this undertaking remained a mere episode, it sheds light on Soviet foreign policy toward Germany before 1933. In accordance with the resolutions of the VI. Comintern Congress (1928), the politics of the German Communist Party (KPD) were aimed primarily against so-called social fascism, i.e., Social Democracy, as were those of the most significant communist
[CTRL] STALIN'S SECRET P0GROM
-Caveat Lector- http://www.yale.edu/yup/books/084862.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FASCISM: A READER'S GUIDE
-Caveat Lector- http://www.coloradocollege.edu/Dept/PS/Finley/PS425/reading/Sternhell.html A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Our Little Marxist Friends
-Caveat Lector- Heh, Saba, I'll make it easy for you! (And, btw, I'm not little! I'm Six Feet, Five Inches Tall!) http://www.google.com/search?[EMAIL PROTECTED] A few hundred more hits this way, Results 1 - 10 of about 1,990 http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=Michael+Pugliese+debsianbtnG=Google+Se arch Even more just this way. Results 1 - 10 of about 2,230 http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=debsianbtnG=Google+Search Have fun! BTW, you anti-semite loon, I'm Catholic. You hate Catholics like the Know Nothing Party in the 1840's? And, I oppose the repression of the Palestinians but, I hate Jew haters like you. Go back to reading the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, now. But, first read some of my zillions of words. Find me at lbo-talk, pen-l, marxist, asdnet, psn, and the archives of marxmail before Stalinist lover of Milosevic, Lou Proyect purged me. And, again, enjoy! Michael Pugliese http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marxist/message/3004 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Amelia, that is another Michael Pugliese!!!
-Caveat Lector- Heh, I've seen that one before, btw, an Adam Levenstein, a Trostskyist, sent it to me a while ago. If, you are gonna look for more of me, here are some other Pugliese's that are not me either! Michael Pugliese that played piano and other instruments on recordings of the late avante-garde modern classical composer, John Cage. Look for, Perkin' at Merkins. At CSU, Hayward there is a Professor Pugliese, not me either. And, I'm not the son of Stanislao Pugliese at Hofstra University thaat wrote a good book on an Italian anti-fascist, Carlo Roselli. As for Floyd, I know these racist websites a helluva lot better than you. Give it up. I've spent probably hundreds of hours in the last two yrs. looking at all the one that are archived for example on The Hate Directory webpg. Though once you've seen one website raving about the ZOG and the Illuminati you can feel like you've seen them all. And, as for racism and black pride, white pride and all that...Joshua is right, if you look at the class structure (to revert back to collegiate neo-marxism, think, bourgeoisie, petty-bourgeoisie and proletariat, guess what class people of color and 95% of white people are? You win the Buick if you say Working Class.) But, America's original Sin is racism against Blacks and Indians/Native Americans and that has a complex relationship with the dynamics of a capitalist social formation. In Althusserian terms, it is overdetermined. Need me to explicate all this? I'd be happy to but, in the meantime read a simple comic book like Marx for Beginners since you don't strike me as one that would sit down with the three volumes of capital and the Grundrisee trying to untangle all the complex verbiage about surplus value, the organic composition of capital, the tendency for the rate of profit to fall given that rising organic composition of capital (briefly, the rising proportion of technological investments vis a vis the the wages paid to labor). Bla, bla bla, as they say. Michael Pugliese A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Still think Jim Floyd isn't a racist?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.anti-fascism.org/page-special-wtc.html http://www.anti-fascism.org/special/wtc/the%20axe%20is%20laid%20to%20the%20r oot%20--%20jim%20floyd.html The Axe Is Laid to the Root James Floyd Attack on America, Fox news. Attack on civilization, Colon Powell. Attack on democracy, Carter. Attack on freedom, Bush. To this stupidity I scream, Hell no! Not just NO but hell no! It was an attack on the Jew capital of the world, an attack on Tel Aviv West. They did not attack Harlem, nor Little Havana, nor White racists in Idaho. They went after those who have, for fifty years, slaughtered Palestinian children. You can not murder people's children with impunity. You can not perpetrate a continuous Holocaust without recriminations. If we, or the Israelis, had done this to others it would have been a surgical strike followed by a well-thought-out letter of limited regret. Our generals would have laughed and bragged about the timing, accuracy and bravery of the troops. And the Jew fascists of New York would, again, have danced a frenzied hora. Yes, America, cry with me for the innocent people killed in this horrid affair. But where were your tears when Manhattan Jews ran Palestinian boys into the corners of the walls of Jerusalem, and riddled their young bodies with American bullets? Where were your tears while Israelis blew the heads off the bodies of babies and committed hundreds of thousands of other unspeakable atrocities against the helpless and innocent, the powerless, old men and women? I can tell you where the Jews of New York were because I've written it, many times. When New York Jews went to Israel and killed innocent babies, they returned to a hero's welcome. Please America, cut-off the goddamn Jew Television. Say no to the insane, pro-Israel, butt-wipe politicians, and listen to that small voice, somewhere in your inner-being, that has told you over and over again that what we have done regarding the bastard state of Israel and Jew war criminals is, and has always been, wrong and evil. Who did this horrible thing? I don't know and the question of who did it must be secondary to the cardinal question of Who is responsible? And this question I can, effortlessly, answer. First I accuse Senator Richard Shelby because I stood in his face and told him that his support of Israel was creating an extremely dangerous situation for my family and friends. Although surrounded by police, and jeered by other politicians, I told him, ten years ago, that his and this nation's policies endangered us all. Listen America, your poltroonish politicians are, at this moment, rattling their swords, blaspheming God, and quoting inappropriate scriptures. And all the while, looking for those responsible. Look in a mirror, you mamzers, look at yourselves! You killed these people just as surely as if you had flown the planes! You imbeciles, talking about exterminating those who are to blame and those who support terrorist. Supporters of terror? You brain-dead bastards, you have supported terrorists every time you voted to send Israel our money, our tanks, our helicopter gunships, rockets etc. etc. Speaking now, is that beastly little war stud, Charlie Schumer. Charlie is talking about freedom just like a whore talks about love. What a cruel joke! And now comes Hillary Clinton, wrapped in a Star of David flag and talking mean. Do you really ascribe any credence to this amateurish, Yiddish theater? Oh, but standing a head taller, above all this septic, is that fat-jawed, deluded piece of human shit, the Rebe Jerry Falwell. Did you hear what this Judeo-Christian, Christian-Zionist, idiot, son-of-a-bitch said? Did You hear him, Jesus? He said, We should do what Ronald Reagan did to Muammar Kaddafi, kill their families. Were it not for Jerry Falwell and his asinine followers there would never have been a Twin Towers suicide attack. You don't have a congressman or woman or prominent religious leader, who can say no, to the Jew. If one refuses, in even a slight way, to support Jew terrorists, they all know that their careers would abruptly end. These cowards, from the President on down, will continue to deny their own culpability and will, forever, sacrifice our people on a stupid, bloody, Zionist altar. Listen to them! They are talking Jewish, thinking Jewish and will soon lash-out in a very unmanly Jewish way. They are talking revenge, blood revenge. Lets go kill somebody, anybody, and their families! We will find these people and they will suffer, said George. We gonna hunt-down and punish those responsible. Well, George, why don't we start with those Jew writers who, just last week, advocated exterminating or forcibly expelling all Palestinians from their homeland. Take a hard look at what you, your vice president, and Powell, Rice, Rumsfeld, etc. said when asked about the Israelis assassinating PLO leaders. You people approved of these horrors and some even said that they would do the same things
[CTRL] Wake Up or Die , James Floyd
-Caveat Lector- Note from Elena, 18 January 2000: http://www.wakeupordie.com/html/jftoc.html If you haven't had the pleasure of reading essays by James Floyd, I'd like to introduce you to one of my favorite people. James Floyd writes pungent commentary on political machinations and the systemic poisoning of the White race. At times when I need to laugh to keep from crying, I go to my Floyd File. Lawdie, how that man can make me laugh! James Floyd essays are sent to an extensive mailing list. They will be archived here as time permits. This area will be under construction indefinitely. If you are offended by his essays, please go elsewhere. If you are delighted, perhaps James Floyd will add you to his worldwide mailing list. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Now will Amelia see that Jim Floyd is a racist?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.google.com/search?q=James+Floyd+mamzer On Martin Lindstedt's website!!! The guy that sez, Talmudvision, to say TV. Whatta loon. http://www.google.com/search?q=James+Floyd+mamzer What is a mamzer, you say? ;-) http://www.infidels.org/library/magazines/tsr/1995/2/2mamz95.html Michael Pugliese A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hitchens On Condit
Pugliese -Original Message- From: Nurev Ind. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, September 09, 2001 3:55 PM Subject: Re: Hitchens On Condit -Caveat Lector- Amelia wrote: -Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Michael Pugliese [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Hitchens On Condit -Caveat Lector- ...someone who is looking for a pseudo- scientific term will sometimes use the term 'Euro-American'... Like these racists? http://www.eaif.org/ Michael Pugliese How is this racist? How is it different from the NAACP, the ADL or any other organization established for the promotion of an ethnic group? It's different because they are the MAJORITY and enjoy the benefits thereof. But more importantly, it's different because THEY ARE THE ELITE POWER STRUCTURE and always have been!!! Get it? This is what makes these groups ridiculous, unless they think in terms of class. Which they are too stupid and brainwashed to do. So to simplify it for you Amelia... when minorities struggle for more power it serves as an equalizer. When White Guys struggle for more power, it's a monopoly. That's the difference Amelia. J2 See their statement of purpose below. Is is solely because they are 'white' for what other difference is there? Are you stating that it is racist for whites to do the identical actions of other races or ethnic groups and that it is only racist for whites to do so? Amelia European American Issues Forum Purpose Statement European/American Issues Forum CW Kuhn, Secretary--M. Piercy, Treasurer--FP Williams, Sgt. at Arms Louis Calabro, President--Aida T. Cordano, Vice President The Principal Purposes of the European/American Issues Forum are: 1. To offer a safe and comfortable place for European-Americans to discuss social, economic, cultural, political and related issues that particularly affect European-Americans in Northern California and beyond. 2. To promote the general welfare of our members. 3. To honor our heritage through celebration, recognition and education. 4. To minimize the effects of racial, ethnic and national origin discrimination and defamation on its members, and to likewise recognize an identical privilege in behalf of all other groups. 5. To educate European-Americans and other cultural and ethnic groups about the richly textured diversity, values, languages, cultures and contributions of European-Americans. 6. To protest unfair and biased descriptions of European-Americans in educational institutions and the communications media. 7. To encourage and support the establishment of similar forums in each city and county of northern California and beyond Adopted April 26,1997 Louis Calabro President EAIF Home A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] European American Issues Forum
-Caveat Lector- http://www.osu.edu/students/afrikan/DIssue/i092298.htm ...But the idea was the inspiration of Stan Hess, a member of the European American Issues Forum. Hess was recently arrested in a flag-burning protest at an Alabama anti-immigration rally with a former grand dragon of the Ku Klux Klan. He was also thrown out of a race-relations forum in San Jose in February after he began shouting at members of President Clinton's commission on race, which had convened the session... ...In January, Hess and two other men were arrested at the anti-immigration rally in Cullman, Ala., according to Cullman police. They were charged with violating the city's burning ordinance when they dipped the flags of Mexico, the United Nations and the former Soviet Union in kerosene and set them ablaze. Arrested with Hess was William Burchfield, a former grand dragon, or state leader, of the Alabama Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, a civil rights organization that monitors the Klan and other extremist groups. Mark Potok, a spokesman for the center, said the rally was attended by several Klansman, neo-Nazis and adherents of the Christian Identity movement. Identity believers embrace a racist and anti-Semitic theology, Potok said, that claims that whites are the true chosen people and that blacks are subhuman ``mud people.'' Hess said he met Burchfield at the rally and didn't become aware of his Klan ties until later. He referred further questions about the rally to his friend Jim Floyd, a Cullman resident who organized the event with Hess and was also arrested for burning the flags. Klansmen at Alabama rally Floyd acknowledged that there were Klansmen in the crowd of about 60 at the Alabama rally, which drew mainstream immigration foes as well. He said the event was open to the public and he had no control over who decided to attend. Floyd said Burchfield, who recently died of a heart attack, was his close friend. But he said Burchfield had turned in his Klan robes four or five years ago, after Floyd persuaded him to quit the organization. In any event, Floyd said, Burchfield played no role in organizing the rally. Potok, the center's spokesman, contradicted Floyd's account, saying Burchfield had been seen preaching Christian Identity theology at a Klan rally as recently as a year ago. M.P. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Jim Floyd, a Cullman resident racist
-Caveat Lector- Following on from the previous on EAIF.(Jim Floyd, a Cullman resident who organized the event ... www.osu.edu/students/afrikan/DIssue/i092298.htm ) M.P. SPOTLIGHT News June 1998 ... Another resident, Joseph James, said ... and James Edward Jim Floyd, 60, are having ... Brunner in Alabama's Cullman County for setting ... plan by racist blacks to ... members.nbci.com/Halchemist/SPOTLIGHT/SPOTLIGHTNewsJun98.htm - 101k - Cached - Similar pages Letters From Browsers ... 29, 1998 From: Jim Floyd jfloyd@airnet ... James Floyd from Cullman, Alabama and I ... James Floyd. ... mine and a resident of the US). ... be looking for racist literature. (Of ... www.natvan.com/letters/letters9.html - 101k - Cached - Similar pages http://www.google.com/search?q=Jim+Floyd%2C+a+Cullman+resident+racist A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] European Heritage Month
-Caveat Lector- European Heritage Month ... For more information, please contact : European American Issues Forum. 297 El Camino Real, #155, San Bruno, CA 944066. ... www.naawp.com/news/euroheri.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] New Nation News - Bloody Kansas - Wichita Wilding More crap via EAIF.
-Caveat Lector- http://www.newnation.org/Archives/NNN-wichita-press-14.html http://www.google.com/search?q=European/American+Issues+Forum+hl=ensafe=of fstart=10sa=N A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hitchens On Condit
-Caveat Lector- Yup, those Leftists at Judicial Watch! http://www.judicialwatch.org/ BTW, Hitchens has distanced himself from the socialist left he was active in, in the 60's and 70's, specifically the neo-Trotskyists in the International Socialists. http://nuance.dhs.org/lbo-talk/0103/0137.html FEED: Where do you stand politically? HITCHENS: I don't have any identifiable political allegiance at the moment, though I'm barely ready even to say that. My political training and allegiance was with the left, and I'm sure it shows. That's how I learned to argue and what to look for. But that of course came from the particular left tradition that was so involved in a lot of argument within the left, when there was such a thing as an intra-left argument, which there hardly is anymore. FEED: I remember Brian Lamb on C-Span used to ask you, Are you still a socialist? HITCHENS: I was very glad he didn't do that the other day when I went on with him. He used to begin every time we came on. I knew he hoped that one day I'd say, Okay, okay, you win. And I knew that even if that day ever came I wouldn't be glad that it had. It's a question I'm quite happy to postpone at the moment. It doesn't condition anything I do anymore. I would certainly say that. Michael Pugliese A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hitchens On Condit
-Caveat Lector- ...someone who is looking for a pseudo- scientific term will sometimes use the term 'Euro-American'... Like these racists? http://www.eaif.org/ Michael Pugliese A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Center for an Informed America
-Caveat Lector- http://davesweb.cnchost.com/index.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Conspiracy Theories
-Caveat Lector- http://juneemoon.8m.net/photo3.html A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Boy Scout Bloodlust Bemoaned
-Caveat Lector- The smaller 4 legged animals need to organize an Animal Liberation Front to prevent the larger 4 legged bullies from devouring them. Michael Pugliese - Original Message - From: Bill Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 9:31 AM Subject: Re: Boy Scout Bloodlust Bemoaned -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/19/01 7:46:33 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: look - while i think PETA is way off the mark here, we should teach our children to understand that when they fish they are killing something. that's a fact. they should be respectful and aware of what their actions mean. Yeah, it means fish for supper. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Serbian Nazis
-Caveat Lector- Make that 200,000 dead in the Bosnian conflict. Not 2 million. Anger at the keyboard made me add a zero! M.P. Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 3:28 PM Subject: Fw: Serbian Nazis Obraz. Who make no bones of it...And on Seselj et. al. http://www.google.com/search?q=Serb+Radical+Party+seselj The Radical Right in Yugoslavia: Srpska Radikalna Stranka ( ... ... Logo English name Serb Radical Party Party leader Vojislav Seselj (resigned on Sept. 25, 2000, after the weak performance of the SRS in the presidential ... www.users.belgacom.net/radicalright/yugosl.htm ... in the Niksic brigade, in agreement with Dr. Vojislav Seselj he took over the organization of the Serb Radical Party in Srpska. In March 1993, at the Serb ... www.cdsp.neu.edu/info/students/marko/velsrb/velsrb1.html ... TRYING TO DO? GUY DINMORE UNEARTHS A RADICAL SERB DOCUMENT, Vojislav Seselj - popular but out of office when his party published the 'Kosovo Solution' in August ... www.megastories.com/kosovo/plan/radical.htm White Eagles Serbian Radical Party [SRS] (White Eagles were a particularly vicious, paramilitary formation deployed in the Bosnian conflict [from '92-'95 200,000dead) and the rump Republica Srpska of psychiatrist/poet of the the wild hairstyle, Dr. Radovan Karazdic. M.P.) .. war in Bosnian. Serbian Radical Party [SRS] Chairman Vojislav Seselj [who was appointed ... www.fas.org/irp/world/para/white_eagles.htm ... of Socialist Peoples Party Momir Bulatovic reached with Vojislav Seselj from Serb Radical Party and Mira Markovic, President of Yugoslav Left (party of the Red Bourgeoisie leaders profitted massively from skimming off profits from de-nationalized state property during the Miklosevic yrs.) on forming of a ... www.medijaklub.cg.yu/eng/news/archive/2000/april/07index.htm Michael Pugliese - Original Message - From: Michael Pugliese [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lbo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 11:00 AM Subject: Re:gay-bashing Serb nationalists The cjb.net domain hosts these Serbian skinhead fascists. The American Front post from one of the Third Position lists I lurk on mentions one. I have a hunch that those BBC pix, had some cadre of the Serbian Radical Party of V. Seselj, a coalition partner and para-military adjunct of Milosevic, Mladic and Karazdic in Bosnia and the rump Republica Srpspska, in their killing sprees. And this group called Obraz, (Dignity), see this from the SF Chronicle. Michael Pugliese http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2001/04/18 /MN152779.DTL Racism defies Serbian democracy Violence grows despite change in leadership Joshua Kucera, Chronicle Foreign Service Wednesday, April 18, 2001 ©2001 San Francisco Chronicle Belgrade, Yugoslavia -- Despite its reputation as a hotbed of nationalism, Serbia has not been known for racism and intolerance of the sort that has plagued neighbors like Croatia, Hungary and Germany. But recent incidents of skinhead-style violence and intimidation suggest that an organized, extreme right-wing movement may be emerging. Organizations that document racist incidents have noticed a rise in the past few months in attacks against Roma, also known as Gypsies, and ethnic Albanians. And within the space of a few days, stickers with swastikas were placed at Belgrade's Jewish cemetery, a synagogue and an art gallery housing a photo exhibition about Roma. In northern Serbia, vandals broke a plaque commemorating the site of the former synagogue in Zrenjanin and painted a swastika on a similar plaque in Kikinda. In the last two to three months, there has been some sort of synchronization of these actions and that's what's really dangerous, said Igor Olujic, a lawyer at the Humanitarian Law Center in Belgrade, who has been documenting the incidents. It's not open violence, but I'm afraid it could be the beginning of a neo- Nazi movement, he added. The incidents have occurred against the disturbing backdrop of the rise of Obraz (Dignity), a group of hard-core nationalists that says it has more than 20,000 members. Obraz says it has no connection with the attacks or the stickers, but its rhetoric -- including a Web page called Letter to Our Enemies that rails against Jews, gays, Croats, Albanians and several other groups -- is seen as the intellectual support for racist violence. It's a racist group, no doubt about it, said Olujic, adding that Obraz may be vulnerable to prosecution under Serbia's law against inciting racial hatred. There always was a latent anti-Semitism, but never as blatant as this, said Aca Singer
Re: [CTRL] Civilian Work Camps, Police State Weaponry, Counter-Insurgency Comes Home
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Pointman USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 5:20 PM Subject: con4 (5) And this is supposed to prove 300 concentration camps??? Read Christian Parenti, Lockdown America, Verso Books, 2000, available in pb. at Borders, Barnes Noble, etc. And this from Covert Action Quarterly by Frank Morales. Otherwise, you are being a conspiranoid nut! ;-) Michael Pugliese Gas me * Stun me * Shoot me * Zap me * Douse me * Drug me * Shut me up http://www.covertactionquarterly.org/ca70/contents70.htm http://www.covertactionquarterly.org/ca70/index.htm#free Find below text summaries and sample PDF articles from CovertAction Quarterly, number 70. COVER STORY WELCOME TO THE FREE WORLD Frank Morales reveals how non-lethal weapons are being used with sometimes deadly effect against peaceful campaigners. Summary: The U.S. military is expanding its missions under globalization. It recognizes that in operations other than war... recent history shows that the most likely threats are from civil disturbances. The Pentagon is preparing to counter popular protest utilizing the latest in non-lethal weapons technology. The new weapons are intended primarily to suppress civil unrest - and have been used extensively at recent global trade and other largely peaceful protests in Seattle, Washington DC, Philadelphia, LA, Prague and Davos. The label non-lethal weapon, utilized strictly for public relations purposes, masks an increase in the overall scope of violence directed against civilians in both warfare and law enforcement scenarios. Under the guise of undeclared operations other than war - and other Pentagonisms - so-called non-lethal weapons allow for the increased repression and torture of non-combatant populations, particularly those opposed to this agenda. The armory ranges from tasers to stun guns, pepper spray to CS gas, hallucinogens to sedatives, rayguns to plastic bullets. As this new phase in the global class war emerges and grows, along with the internationalization of U.S. initiated and exported methodologies of civil disturbance suppression, the utilization of non-lethal weapons will increase, both here and around the world. CovertAction Quarterly, No.70, April-June 2001, pages 6-13. Get the full article: To order CA70, click HERE EXCERPTS Killing me softly: How non-lethal weapons can kill and maim PDF version 382K Taxonomy of terror: What they'll be firing this season. CovertAction's guide to non-lethal weapons PDF version 122K Subject: [CTRL] Pentagon Fielding Electromagnetic Crowd Dispersal Weapon Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 11:57:09 EDT -Caveat Lector- from: http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=41810group=webcast Click Here: A HREF=http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=41810group=webcast; Independent Media Center - webcast news/A - Latest in so called non-lethal technology designed to counter popular protest Pentagon Fielding Electromagnetic Crowd Dispersal Weapon By Frank Morales The Marine Corps is on the verge of unveiling perhaps the biggest breakthrough in weapons technology since the atomic bomb: a nonlethal weapon that fires directed energy at human targets. I have nothing to hide. This is a good news story. Our American public needs to understand that we have done our homework. - Col. George Fenton, Director, Joint Non-Lethal Weapons Directorate, Department of Defense Marine Corps Times, March 5, 2001 (1) In a neatly calculated unveiling of weapons designed for social control, for use against civilians and the suppression of dissent, the Pentagon has gone transparent with the latest in electronic weapons technology which targets people. At a selective press briefing for congressional and military leaders this past March 1st, Pentagon officials stated they were developing a new non-lethal weapon which uses electromagnetic energy to cause a bur ning sensation on the skin. (Reuters, 3/1/01) The biggest breakthrough in weapons technology since the atomic bomb is none other than the so-called Vehicle-Mounted Active Denial System or VMADS. According to the March 5th issue of the Marine Corps Times, (cited above) in an article entitled, The People Zapper: This new secret weapon doesn't kill, but it sure does burn, the VMADS system is the first non-lethal, directed energy weapon designed specifically for use against humans. The weapon focuses energy into a beam of micromillimeter waves designed to stop an individual in his tracks. Powered by electricity, it would ultimately be powered by the modified Humvee on which it would be mounted. According to the Marine Corps Times report, the projected energy which falls near microwaves on the electromagnetic spectrum, causes the moisture in a person's skin to heat up rapidly, creating a burning sensation, similar to a hot light bulb pressed against
[CTRL] U.S. Military Civil Disturbance Planning The War at Home
-Caveat Lector- http://cryptome.org/garden-plot.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Mind Control Technology, Techniques, and Politics
-Caveat Lector- http://www.datafilter.com/mc/rma.html A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Stratfor: Montesinos arrest could lead to trouble for Chavez
-Caveat Lector- www.antiwar.com is routing y'all to Defense Systems Daily for Stratfor. http://defence-data.com/current/page11556.htm Michael Pugliese A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Chinese Navy Prepares to Invade Taiwan
-Caveat Lector- Re: Chinese Navy Prepares to Invade Taiwan, Tue, 10 Jul 2001 Dr Byron Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe they will also devastate several cities along our West Coast. Did not happen then, either... Michael Pugliese - Original Message - From: Byron Weeks To: Bond Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 10:20 AM Subject: IS WAR IMMINENT? ISRAEL HAS JUST WARNED THE PA THAT IF THE TERRORISM DOES NOT STOP IN A FEW DAYS, THEY WILL BEGIN A MASSIVE OFFENSIVE!!! I believe that if and when it begins, [probably before the end of March] the following is a likely scenario: Israel will attack the well circumscribed Palestinian settlements and use weapons that kill instantly, such as fuel-air bombs. or beam weapons that have minimal side scatter, to avoid killing Jews nearby. A suitcase nuke will explode in old Jerusalem, destroying the Al Aqsa Mosque. This will bring on retaliatory moves by Iraq and the other Moslem States, including Iran. Israel will resort to nuclear weapons, especially neutron bombs. Gog and Magog suffer heavy casualties. Russia and China will join the attacks on Israel, and while the US is pondering what to do, the coastal areas of North America will be bombed, probably mainly with neutron bombs. Washington and New York will be hit with either suitcase nukes or something worse. Our President and much of his cabinet will be killed. The Pentagon, a Satanic symbol, will make an ideal target. Congress will hide in the underground bunkers such as Greenbriar. War will break out in Europe as Russia invades. Germany will try to take over again. The Nazis will dominate German policies again. More earthquakes and volcanic eruptions will be precipitated by the nuclear bombs and continued use of HAARP. Swarms of refugees will try to leave New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco and they will die on the freeways by nerve gas and neutron bombs by the thousands and millions... Las Vegas will be destroyed. Russia, Cuba, Nicaragua, Mexico, and China will invade the US through Canada and Mexico, and from the Bahamas through the Gulf and Florida. Foreign troops already within the country will begin to blow up the infrastructure, and to poison the water reservoirs with botulism toxin. US nuclear subs will devastate Eastern China,and... etc. Since the exit routes will be jammed, it may be prudent to make plans to leave the large coastal cities as or before it begins btw A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Russia/Chinese Navy Prepares to Invade Taiwan
-Caveat Lector- Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...In fact, we are the nation that engages in dozens of agressive wars outside North America... We have 50 percent of the world's wealth, but only 6.3 percent of its population. . . In this situation we cannot fail to be the object of envy and resentment. Our real task in the coming period is to devise a pattern of relationships which will allow us to maintain this position of disparity. We should cease to talk about the raising of the living standards, human rights, and democratization. The day is not far off when we are going to have to deal in straight power concepts. The less we are then hampered by idealistic slogans, the better. George Kennan, Director of Policy Planning of the U.S. Dept. of State, 1948 http://www.neravt.com/left/invade.htm Let the Bloody Truth Be Told: A Chronology of U.S. Imperialism One Hundred Years of Intervention by Zoltan Grossman The following is a partial list of U.S. military interventions from 1890 to 1999. This guide does not include: mobilizations of the National Guard offshore shows of naval strength reinforcements of embassy personnel the use of non-Defense Department personnel (such as the Drug Enforcement Administration) military exercises non-combat mobilizations (such as replacing postal strikers) the permanent stationing of armed forces covert actions where the U.S. did not play a command and control role the use of small hostage rescue units most uses of proxy troops U.S. piloting of foreign warplanes foreign disaster assistance military training and advisory programs not involving direct combat civic action programs and many other military activities. Among sources used, beside news reports, are the Congressional Record (23 June 1969), 180 Landings by the U.S. Marine Corp History Division, Ege Makhijani in Counterspy (July-Aug, 1982), Instances of Use of United States Forces Abroad, 1798-1993 by Ellen C. Collier of the Library of Congress Congressional Research Service, and Ellsberg in Protest Survive . SOUTH DAKOTA 1890 (-?) Troops 300 Lakota Indians massacred at Wounded Knee. ARGENTINA 1890 Troops Buenos Aires interests protected. CHILE 1891 Troops Marines clash with nationalist rebels. HAITI 1891 Troops Black revolt on Navassa defeated. IDAHO 1892 Troops Army suppresses silver miners' strike. HAWAII 1893 (-?) Naval, troops Independent kingdom overthrown, annexed. CHICAGO 1894 Troops Breaking of rail strike, 34 killed. NICARAGUA 1894 Troops Month-long occupation of Bluefields. CHINA 1894-95 Naval, troops Marines land in Sino-Japanese War KOREA 1894-96 Troops Marines kept in Seoul during war. PANAMA 1895 Troops, naval Marines land in Colombian province. NICARAGUA 1896 Troops Marines land in port of Corinto. CHINA 1898-1900 Troops Boxer Rebellion fought by foreign armies. PHILIPPINES 1898-1910 (-?) Naval, troops Seized from Spain, killed 600,000 Filipinos CUBA 1898-1902 (-?) Naval, troops Seized from Spain, still hold Navy base. PUERTO RICO 1898 (-?) Naval, troops Seized from Spain, occupation continues. GUAM 1898 (-?) Naval, troops Seized from Spain, still use as base. MINNESOTA 1898 (-?) Troops Army battles Chippewa at Leech Lake. NICARAGUA 1898 Troops Marines land at port of San Juan del Sur. SAMOA 1899 (-?) Troops Battle over succession to throne. NICARAGUA 1899 Troops Marines land at port of Bluefields. IDAHO 1899-1901 Troops Army occupies Coeur d'Alene mining region. OKLAHOMA 1901 Troops Army battles Creek Indian revolt. PANAMA 1901-14 Naval, troops Broke off from Colombia 1903, annexed Canal Zone 1914. HONDURAS 1903 Troops Marines intervene in revolution. DOMINICAN REPUBLIC 1903-04 Troops U.S. interests protected in Revolution. KOREA 1904-05 Troops Marines land in Russo-Japanese War. CUBA 1906-09 Troops Marines land in democratic election. NICARAGUA 1907 Troops Dollar Diplomacy protectorate set up. HONDURAS 1907 Troops Marines land during war with Nicaragua PANAMA 1908 Troops Marines intervene in election contest. NICARAGUA 1910 Troops Marines land in Bluefields and Corinto. HONDURAS 1911 Troops U.S. interests protected in civil war. CHINA 1911-41 Naval, troops Continuous occupation with flare-ups. CUBA 1912 Troops U.S. interests protected in civil war. PANAMA 1912 Troops Marines land during heated election. HONDURAS 1912 Troops Marines protect U.S. economic interests. NICARAGUA 1912-33 Troops, bombing 10-year occupation, fought guerillas MEXICO 1913 Naval Americans evacuated during revolution. DOMINICAN REPUBLIC 1914 Naval Fight with rebels over Santo Domingo. COLORADO 1914 Troops Breaking of miners' strike by Army. MEXICO 1914-18 Naval, troops Series of interventions against nationalists. HAITI 1914-34 Troops, bombing 19-year occupation after revolts. DOMINICAN REPUBLIC 1916-24 Troops 8-year Marine occupation. CUBA 1917-33 Troops Military occupation, economic
[CTRL] Dubious Reports of U.S. Concentration Camps
-Caveat Lector- http://groups.google.com/groups?q=USCMike1%40aol.com www.google.com/search?hl=ensafe=off[EMAIL PROTECTED]btnG=Google+S earch From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dubious Reports of U.S. Concentration Camps Newsgroups: misc.activism.militia (This is the only article in this thread) Date: 1999/05/03 (sent to USCMike1's 31,085+ readers - please repost to your own mailing lists) Dear Citizens, Patriots, Veterans, et al.: Thanks to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for expressing his doubts about the Clinton's Civilian Concentration Camps. Please read my response to him and his post immediately below my response. USCMike1 Dear Steven: Thank you for your response and comments. It is literally impossible for me to personally verify all 300+ or 700+ s. And even when some one does in fact find one they derrogatorily report that there is NO activity there and no sign of civilian prisoners there. So even with proof people still refuse to believe. They keep forgetting that these s are being setup, planned, prepared, lying in wait, or being merely designated for later use. Guess we will have to just wait until those on the GREEN list are picked up and shoved into them. Then what good does it do to issue any warning ahead of time? Probably these very same people will still deny their existence by saying Well, you can't prove these are s just because the feds put me into one under legal court procedings, but for a different reason than what you say they are for. If people can't heed an honest warning then too bad. There are none so blind as those who will not see. None so ignorant as those who will not understand. None so asleep as those who will not wake up. USCMike1 Subj: Dubious Reports of U.S. Concentration Camps Date: 4/26/99 9:18:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: A HREF=mailto:Steven1997;Steven1997/A To: A HREF=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A CC: A HREF=mailto:RBerbill;RBerbill/A, A HREF=mailto:USCMike1;USCMike1 /A Hi David: I am also very skeptical of these reports. We are old neighbors: Northbrook, right on the border of Wheeling. My brother, Bill is an exec with a Northbrook-based radio station -- even has his own radio show (see Rebel Radio on the Internet). If you get any solid proof of any concentration camps which are being planned for innocent Americans, just let me know and I will see if he wants to run a story on the air ... OK. I will also copy Bill on this e-mail. Steven + Date: 4/26/99 8:22:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, ladies and gentlemen, it is starting now. [EMAIL PROTECTED] claims he has verified that one of the FEMA Relocation Centers which I refer to as Clinton's Civilian Concentration Camps - will be used to incarcerate innocent civilians - although this is probably just a trial run. There are claimed to be at least 300+ camps and possibly even up to 700+ camps nationwide. The feds just want to get us used to the idea of civilians being placed in these camps, then after the first shock, to be readily forgotten so we can go back to our mindless daily existences. Then as we are individually carted off into these 's it will just be another fact of life that we were so meticulously prepared for. OBTW, this is for Wolfs1776 - as far as I know, there is ONLY ONE [EMAIL PROTECTED] by the name of Michael Johnson and that is me and there should be NO other people who are parading around as USCMike1. I don't know where Wolfs1776 ever got that idea, unless there is someone impersonating me trying to discredit me. Thanks again, folks for listening Please read Wolfs1776 post below for the story on innocent civilians to be incarcerated in one of Clinton's Civilian Concentrations Camps. USCMike1 In a message dated 4/26/99 1:11:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time, WoLfS1776 writes: Date: 4/26/99 1:11:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time From: A HREF=mailto:WoLfS1776;WoLfS1776/A To: A HREF=mailto:USCMike1;USCMike1/A In a message dated 99-04-24 13:27:58 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Okay, I said that when I learned that there *are* concentration camps and that people *were* to be herded into them. I would go on the air and publicly acknowledge the fact. Well, USCMike1 (however-many people are actually masquerading as someone named Michael Johnson) once referred me to a web-site showing photos of a POW camp on Fort Dix, New Jersey, as absolute PROOF that such camps *do* exist and would be used to hold innocent citizens. I looked at the photos, formulatind some hypotheses (which I kept to myself), and publicly ridiculed all those nice folks going under the rubric USCMike1. Well, I can admit my mistakes---on the ABC network news this morning (WLS, 890 AM in Chicago), they ran a story confirming my hypotheses by stating that innocent citizens *will* be herded into the Fort Dix facility---and
[CTRL] Communist Rules for Revolution
-Caveat Lector- ... Communist Rules for Revolution: A list of Communist Rules for Revolution was discovered by Allied forces in Germany in 1919. ... www.snopes2.com/spoons/document/document.htm Michael Pugliese A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Correct URL for previous
-Caveat Lector- http://www.snopes2.com/language/document/commrule.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Conspiracist Jim Marrs Revealed
-Caveat Lector- Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 11:10:49 -0400 From: Eileen Sutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Conspiracist Jim Marrs Revealed ...WBAI producer Bill Weinberg offers this excellent analysis of right-wing conspiracist, Jim Marrs, whose book was recently offered by Marjorie Moore as a premium in WBAI's last fund drive. The use of the Marrs material to fund the station is seen by many as strong evidence of the ideological shifts taken place at WBAI, despite protests from management that changes in program content are illusory. Weinberg also discusses Leid's history with the City Sun, and DeRienzo's recent attacks on the IMC and George Soros. --efs RULE BY IDIOCY: WBAI FALLS FOR RIGHT-WING CONSPIRACY THEORY by Bill Weinberg Rule by Secrecy: The Hidden History That Connects the Trilateral Commission, the Freemasons, and the Great Pyramids. The title itself reads like a self-parody. The fact that it is not is a sad comment on our times. The fact that HarperCollins chose to publish this amateurish potboiler is even sadder. But saddest of all is that it was offered as a premium in the last fund-raising marathon by New York City's progressive WBAI Radio. WBAI, whose leadership was purged in a notorious Christmas Coup last year, once offered premiums by the likes of Noam Chomsky. But it was the voice of Jim Marrs that issued from the station's transmitter in relentless interviews during the May marathon. Marrs was chosen as the latest political guru by morning show host Marjorie Moore and approved by WBAI's Interim General Manager Utrice Leid. Both repeatedly praised his research over the air. That WBAI is now promoting Marrs, a peddler of the most vulgar anti-Semitic conspiracy theory, loans credence to those who argue that the station has assumed a rightward trajectory since the coup. In Rule by Secrecy, Marrs of course goes out of his way to disavow anti-Semitism-but in terms that are clearly anti-Semitic! While it may be true that secret organizations in the past were built along both racial and religious grounds and [a]lthough many international financiers are of Jewish descent, it is unfair to accuse the Hebrew race of an international conspiracy. Note the slippery use of Hebrew race in place of the more common and accurate term Jews. He complains that the broad brush of anti-Semitism frequently has been used to besmirch anyone offering a conspiratorial view of history. After this requisite disavowal, Marrs goes on to portray the gigantic and secretive Rothschilds banking empire as the covert and indirect power behind nearly every government on Earth (ultimately tracing their grand design for world domination to the Illuminati and Masonic conspiracies dating to ancient Egypt). His sources are the usual ones, all too familiar to followers of the far right and fascism. Topping the list, of course, is the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, the purported Jewish conspiracy masterplan which served as propaganda for the Czarist pogroms and then the Nazi Holocaust. While Marrs does concede that the Protocols are a hoax, he nonetheless vests much legitimacy in them: It is the possibility of 'historical truth' which has kept the Protocols in circulation since its inception. Today, modern conspiracy writers see it as a real program predating Nazism or Communism... The Protocols may indeed reflect a deeper conspiracy beyond its intended use to encourage anti-Semitism, one hidden within the secret upper ranks of the Iluminati and Freemasonry. The kneejerk anti-Communism which always characterizes this genre is there as well. Marrs writes that Marx's program points in The Communist Manifesto bear a striking resemblance to the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, suggesting some common origin. Much, of course, is made of Marx's Jewish ethnicity. Concludes Marrs: The goals of the Russian communists and Karl Marx were largely the same goals of the Illuminati and continental Freemasonry. Again and again, Marrs attempts to legitimize the anti-Semitism of Henry Ford, the Krupps and even Hitler, portraying them as mere over-reaction to the arrogant power of international Jewish bankers. Marrs argues that the Jews themselves were behind Hitler, another line familiar to those who follow this unsavory milieu. All of the American, British and Dutch industrialists who aided Hitler's rise to power are portrayed (on no evidence) as stand-ins for the great Rothschild empire. Marrs goes one better by claiming that Hitler was a Rothschild-that his grandmother was not impregnated by her husband Johann Georg Hiedler, but by one Baron Rothschild, in whose Vienna home she was working as a servant. Marrs cites a (conveniently) suppressed OSS report for this allegation, but provides no details on its name or where it is to be found. The actual report, by psychologist Walter C. Langer, was published in 1972 as The Mind of Adolf Hitler, but Marrs doesn't tell us that,
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Conspiracist Jim Marrs Revealed
-Caveat Lector- Heh, look at the website I got as the first hit on google for, The Mind of Adolf Hitler, cited in the Bill Weinberg piece! http://www.maebrussell.com/Mae's%20bio/The%20Mind%20of%20Adolf%20Hitler%20du st%20cover%20flap.html Mae Brussell, I used to listen to on the radio, before she died. Her papers are in some office in Santa Cruz. A friend in college had dinner with her and John Judge once. Judge rambled on about Jonestown being a COINTELPRO and/or MKULTRA psy-op. Paul Krassner has some stories about her in one of his books. Weinberg, btw, has a book on Chiapas and the Zaps from Verso and writes for High Times. And KPFA is not immune to this stuff. Years ago in Berkeley on the campus, at a forum where Dennis Bernstein http://www.flashpoints.net/ and C. Clark Kissenger from RCP where blathering, during Q A, Bernstein )from the Flashpoints program) was asked why he had cited LaRoucheite stuff on air, and he said that Village Voice columnist, James Ridgeway did too! And frequent guest of Bernstein, Michael Parenti, has appeared in the pgs. of http://www.nexusmagazine.com/705.conts.html New Dawn, a similar journal also from Australia. http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/ http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/Articles/BioApocalypse.html BioApocalypse By Leonard Horowitz, AIDS dissident appeared on one of two panels at Project Censored conference at SF State, along with nutters from ACT-UP, on another panel. The Hidden Side of Psychiatry (Part 2) By Gary Null ARTICLES IN NO. 54 (May-June 1999) The New Great Game: Blood for Oil, Drugs For Arms By Bob Djurdjevic -Racist, Buchananite, from Truth In Media website. http://www.haverford.edu/relg/sells/reports/muttamericabelgrade.htm http://www.haverford.edu/relg/sells/reports/gopbelgrade.htm The Last President By Alexander Dugin Jonestown: Dismantling the Disinformation By Laurie Kahalas (March-April 1999) http://www.centrexnews.com/ http://www.nexusmagazine.com/ http://www.nexusmagazine.com/804.conts.html (US UN FINANCE WAR IN THE BALKANS By Michel Chossudovsky. Both sides of the conflict affecting Kosovo and Macedonia are being funded behind the scenes by the Pentagon, with help from the United Nations, NATO and narcodollars. URINE THERAPY: Your Own Perfect Medicine! THE DEEP DWELLERS--Part 3 By Wm Michael Mott. Modern-day accounts of alien abductions and Men in Black incidents have parallels with planet-wide legends of mysterious subterranean creatures and humanoids. DOES HIV CAUSE AIDS? Pt.1, Pt.2, Pt.3 by Valendar F. Turner and Andrew McIntyre ) , a New Age conspiracy theory rag that mixes a melange of far right and far left stuff. Nexus editors, in a document I found on usenet (it's really long!) have links to Australian neo-fascists in the Australian League of Rights and Pauline Hansen's One Nation. Parenti's choice of sources can be hella weak. For his recent book on the NATO bombing, To Kill A Nation, froom Verso, one chapter relies on Blagovesta Doncheva, who forwards crap from the Russia neo-fascist metaphysician, Alexander Dugin. Favorite Dugin title of mine, The Knights Templar of the Proletariat. For more Dugin, visit his website, and the National Bolshevik one, as well as, The Black Hundreds, by Walter Laqueur. Michael Pugliese A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Gerbilling-gerbils gerbils and more (2)
-Caveat Lector- http://www.urbanlegends.com/animals/gerbilling/gerbils_gerbils_and_more.html The AFU and Urban Legend Archive Animals Gerbilling gerbils gerbils and more Select a topic- - - - - - - -HomeSearchesAFU FAQ- - - - - - - -AFUAnimalsBooksCelebritiesClassicCollegiateDeathDisneyDrug sFoodGIFLanguageLegalMedicalMiscMoviesPoliticsProductsReligionScienceSexSong sTV- - - - - - - -Other sites Subject: GERBILMANIA: everything you wanted to know but were afraid... This article is from a syndicated column called, The Straight Dope, and was written by Cecil Adams. It was published in the Chicago Reader, sometime in 1986. [NOTE: Since this column was published, Uncle Cecil has stated in his book _More of the Straight Dope_ that under closer examination, the confirmed report of gerbillectomy he mentions here came to nothing, and he's now skeptical that any real evidence of gerbilling exists. More specific and up-to-date cites are on their way. Thanks to Ian York for pointing this out. --ehk, 96/05/30] THE STRAIGHT DOPE While discussing a gay acquaintance recently, my friend Mary, a nurse, lauded him by adding, and he's no damn gerbil stuffer, either. When I protested that she should not perpetuate cruel stereotypes of our homosexual brethren, she informed me that she personally had witnessed a fellow admitted by her hospital to remove a deceased gerbil lodged in his rectum. That gentleman is now doomed to be tied to a colostomy bag through eternity. What I'd like to know is, what are the mechanics and philosophy of gerbil stuffing? How are the gerbils inserted and retrieved? Don't they bite and scratch? Why not hamsters or snakes? Is this a common practice? My curious friends and I await your reply with bated breath. -- Shannon O'Hara, W. Thomas Let's face it, toots, an awful lot of stuff has been found where that gerbil was found. The medical journals list an astonishing array: a bottle of Mrs. Butterworth's syrup, an ax handle, a nine-inch zucchini, countless didoes and vibrators including one 14-inch model complete with two D-cell batteries, a plastic spatula, a 9 1/2-inch water bottle, a deodorant bottle, a Coke bottle, a large bottle cap, numerous other bottles, a 3 1/2-inch Japanese glass float ball, an 11-inch carrot, an antenna rod, a 150-watt light bulb, a 100-watt frosted bulb, a cucumber, a screwdriver, four rubber balls, 72 1/2 jeweler's saws (all from one patient, but not all at the same time, although 29 were discovered on one occasion), a paperweight, an apple, an onion, a plastic toothbrush package, two bananas, a frozen pig's tail (it got stuck when it thawed), a ten-inch length of broomstick, an 18-inch umbrella handle and central rod, a plantain encased in a condom, two Vaseline jars, a whiskey bottle with a cord attached, a teacup, an oil can, a six-by-five-inch tool box weighing 22 ounces, a six-inch stone weighing two pounds (in the latter two cases the patients died due to intestinal obstruction), a baby powder can, a test tube, a ball-point pen, a peanut butter jar, candles, baseballs, a sand-filled bicycle inner tube, sewing needles, a flashlight, a half-filled tobacco pouch, a turnip, a pair of eyeglasses, a hard-boiled egg, a carborundum grindstone (with handle), a suitcase key, a syringe, a file tumblers and glasses, a polyethylene waste trap from the U-bench of a sink, and so on. In 1955 one man who was feeling depressed reportedly inserted a six-inch paper tube into his rectum, dropped in a lighted firecracker, and blew a hole in his anterior rectal wall. This changed his mood multo rapido. As for live or recently deceased fauna, rumors of gerbil (and mouse or hamster) stuffing have been circulating since about 1982, and I know of at least one case, in 1984, when a Denver weekly printed a confirmed report of gerbilectomy in a local emergency room. Unfortunately, such cases have been slow in making their way into the formal literature of medicine. I have checked with numerous sources, including gays, doctors, and your nurse friend, and though everybody has heard about gerbil stuffing, there is no consensus on how it is accomplished or how often it occurs. The principle is simple: a tube is inserted in the rectum, and a recently manicured gerbil is induced to run up the tube and burrow in. There's some difference of opinion about what happens next. Some say the gerbil somehow winds up in a bag or sack (perhaps a condom?); others say no sack is used - the gerbil simply squirms around, eventually dies of suffocation, and is later eliminated during defecation. The kick supposedly is the sensation of fur. I am skeptical about this, but let's face it, I am skeptical about this whole damn business. I should note that there are nerve endings only in the lower extremities of the rectum, and thus there is nothing to be gained by shoveling extended families of gerbils into your lower quadrant. A word to the wise. Complications often occur. Often the rectum
[CTRL] Animals-Gerbilling-gerbilling debunking
-Caveat Lector- http://www.urbanlegends.com/animals/gerbilling/gerbilling_debunking.html A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Eating Fetuses: The lurid Christian fantasy of godless Chinese eating unborn children.
-Caveat Lector- Eating Fetuses: The lurid Christian fantasy of godless Chinese eating unborn children. by Miss Poppy Dixon, 10.2000 http://www.jesus21.com/poppydixon/sex/chinese_eating_fetuses.html indeed ... http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/17127.html A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Eating Fetuses: The lurid Christian fantasy of godless Chinese eating
-Caveat Lector- Eating Fetuses: The lurid Christian fantasy of godless Chinese eating unborn children. by Miss Poppy Dixon, 10.2000 http://www.jesus21.com/poppydixon/sex/chinese_eating_fetuses.html Blood Libel: Eating Childen Blood libel [1] is the practice of accusing one's enemy of eating children. Originally traced to pagans slandering early Christians it quickly adopted the form it would take for the next two thousand years - that of Jews murdering and eating Christian children, primarily for Passover. The practice of blood libel has been revived in the US by Christian conservatives, and is now aimed at their latest enemy, and most promising market: the Chinese. Beijing, 1995: The Godless Triad The United Nations Fourth World Conference on Women, held in Beijing in 1995, was hosted live on the Internet - one of the first of such events on the Web, and thousands of women the world over logged on. Conservative Christians could not fathom why the rest of the world was not outraged by the convergence of their three arch enemies: women, the communist Chinese, and the Clintons. James Dobson, of the ultra-conservative Focus on the Family book and radio empire, covered the event in his August 1995 newsletter titled, Position on United Nations Conference on Women. Uncertain that he could move apathetic Americans with bland facts, Dobson quoted a World Magazine article about the Chinese dining on aborted fetuses as evidence of this godless triad. If [capital punishment] isn't enough to turn one's stomach, consider this: According to World... human fetuses have begun to appear on menus of Chinese restaurants as a delicacy and health tonic. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Racism Among Some Jewish Intellectuals
-Caveat Lector- Hitler was said to be Jewish... And he had one ball, too! http://www.google.com/search?q=Hitler+Jewish%3Fhl=ensafe=active - Original Message - From: Aleisha Saba [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 10:32 PM Subject: Re: Racism Among Some Jewish Intellectuals -Caveat Lector- Foote is an old family name Bill; is English, but never heard of a Foote that was Jewish. One was Skull and Bones and another you find his name in history books - headed Michigan Calvary Regiment and married into Blanchrd Family after which Blanchard River was named. Were Episcopalean? Foote is not jewish name? Nice article Bill - maybe someday someone will really wonder why the Nazi Insiders consisted of homosexuals and Hitler was said to be Jewish; for none looked like Nordic Gods (as do my chldren with their blue eyes and blonde hair)..doubt that bunch was even German - we know Hitler was Austrian and used three different names - like Arien Sharon and Ehud Barak - these are phoney names too and I understand in Israel you no longer can steal names from the bible, for obvious reasons - a right to return? So much for Foote - but that is a family name and of course they date back beyond the Revolutionary War in this country. saba What is in a name, a rose by any other name might be a clone? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Pink Pistols
-Caveat Lector- http://www.seattleweekly.com/features/0025/features-berger.shtml http://www.lrp-cofi.org/PR/guncontrol.html Radio Free Dixie: Robert F. Williams and the Roots of Black Power Timothy B. Tyson Format: Paperback, 416pp. ISBN: 0807849235 Publisher: University of North Carolina Press Pub. Date: February 2001 From the Publisher Radio Free Dixie is the story of Robert F. Williams - one of the most influential black activists of the generation that toppled Jim Crow, created a new black sense of self, and forever altered the arc of American history. In the late 1950s, as president of the Monroe, North Carolina, branch of the NAACP, Williams and his followers used machine guns, dynamite, and Molotov cocktails to confront Klan terrorists. Advocating armed self-reliance by black Southerners, Williams challenged not only white supremacists but also Martin Luther King Jr. and the civil rights establishment. Forced to flee during the 1960s to Cuba - where he broadcast Radio Free Dixie, a program of black politics and music that could be heard as far away as Los Angeles and New York City - and then China, Williams remained a controversial figure for the rest of his life. Radio Free Dixie reveals that both the civil rights movement and the Black Power movement, often portrayed in clashing terms, grew out of the same soil, confronted the same predicaments, and reflected the same quest for African American freedom. What People Are Saying Needs to be read by all who care about race, courage, and humanity. -Julian Bond From the Critics From John Dittmer - Quarterly Black Review Will change the way we think about the black freedom struggle of the 1950s and early 1960s. To read more about Quarterly Black Review, click here. From Glenda E. Gilmore - Quarterly Black Review A spellbinding narrative that analyzes the making of black manhood in an era that bridged Jim Crow and civil rights. To read more about Quarterly Black Review, click here. From Julian Bond A compelling story that...needs to be ready by all who care about race, courage, and humanity. Robert Williams was an inspiration to many an a threat to others; Tyson give him his proper due. From Publisher's Weekly To some, the civil rights radical Robert Williams's philosophy of armed self-defense was the very antithesis of Martin Luther King's nonviolent resistance. However, each man represented a wing of the growing civil rights movement, and both grasped and skillfully wielded the political leverage that the dynamics of the Cold War afforded the civil rights cause. After a stint in the army during WWII, Williams returned to his hometown in Monroe, N.C., where he built a uniquely militant NAACP chapter and attracted international attention to racist hypocrisy. When eventually forced by Ku Klux Klan vigilantes and an FBI dragnet to abandon his activities and flee the U.S. with his family in 1961, he found safe harbor in revolutionary Cuba, where he produced Radio Free Dixie, a program of politics and music broadcast to America. Written with the cooperation of Williams and his family, Tyson's firecracker text crackles with brilliant and lasting images of black life in the Carolinas and across the South in the '40s, '50s and '60s. Liberally peppered with quotes from Williams, many taken from his unpublished autobiography, While God Lay Sleeping, as well as from interviews and radio tapes, the book is imbued with the man's voice and his indefatigable spirit. An assistant professor of Afro-American studies at the University of Wisconsin-Madison and the co-editor of Democracy Betrayed, Tyson successfully portrays Williams as a troubled visionary, a strong, stubborn and imperfect man, one who greatly influenced what became the Black Power Movement and its young leaders. Photos. (Oct.) Copyright 1999 Cahners Business Information. FROM THE BOOK Excerpt Read an excerpt from the book Table of Contents Introduction: On Trembling Earth Chapter 1. The Legacies Chapter 2. Wars for Democracy Chapter 3. I'd Rather Die and Go to Hell Chapter 4. The Kissing Case Chapter 5. Communist Front Shouts Kissing Case to the World Chapter 6. The Sissy Race of All Mankind Chapter 7. Crusaders Chapter 8. Cuba Libre Chapter 9. When Fire Breaks Out Chapter 10. Freedom Rider Conclusion: Radio Free Dixie Notes Bibliography Acknowledgments Index - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 6:35 AM Subject: Pink Pistols -Caveat Lector- The mainstream press and the gay community have both treated the emergence of Pink Pistols, which was inspired by an article by Jonathan Rauch in the National Journal calling for just such an organization, as a curious new phenomenon. Who would have thought that an organization sporting a pink triangle in its logo would take up the right-wing cause of gun ownership? The Pink Pistols are less a new phenomenon than a new twist on something very old -- persecuted minorities
Re: [CTRL] Captain John Birch
-Caveat Lector- As to Goldwater, Mr AuH20, see these two new books. Michael Pugliese Before the Storm Barry Goldwater and the Unmaking of the American Consensus. By Rick Perlstein. http://www.booknotes.org/archive/bn060301.asp http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0122/perlstein.shtml Suburban Warriors: The Origins of the New American Right Lisa McGirr In the early 1960s, American conservatives seemed to have fallen on hard times. McCarthyism was on the run, and movements on the political left were grabbing headlines. The media lampooned John Birchers's accusations that Dwight Eisenhower was a communist puppet. Mainstream America snickered at warnings by California Congressman James B. Utt that barefooted Africans were training in Georgia to help the United Nations take over the country. Yet, in Utt's home district of Orange County, thousands of middle-class suburbanites proceeded to organize a powerful conservative movement that would land Ronald Reagan in the White House and redefine the spectrum of acceptable politics into the next century. Suburban Warriors introduces us to these people: women hosting coffee klatches for Barry Goldwater in their tract houses; members of anticommunist reading groups organizing against sex education; pro-life Democrats gradually drawn into conservative circles; and new arrivals finding work in defense companies and a sense of community in Orange County's mushrooming evangelical churches. We learn what motivated them and how they interpreted their political activity. Lisa McGirr shows that their movement was not one of marginal people suffering from status anxiety, but rather one formed by successful entrepreneurial types with modern lifestyles and bright futures. She describes how these suburban pioneers created new political and social philosophies anchored in a fusion of Christian fundamentalism, xenophobic nationalism, and western libertarianism. While introducing these rank-and-file activists, McGirr chronicles Orange County's rise from nut country to political vanguard. Through this history, she traces the evolution of the New Right from a virulent anticommunist, anti-establishment fringe to a broad national movement nourished by evangelical Protestantism. Her original contribution to the social history of politics broadens--and often upsets--our understanding of the deep and tenacious roots of popular conservatism in America. Lisa McGirr is Assistant Professor of History at Harvard University. Reviews: McGirr paints a complex picture . . . Incisive, yet fair, this represents an important standing of how antimodernist ideologies continue to thrive.--Publishers Weekly The strength of her book is her explanation of the growth of the conservative movement through the stories of women and men who moved to the Orange County suburbs . . . Remember welfare? Whatever happened to it? Where did affirmative action go? [McGirr explains] their demise and that of many other ideas that seemed so permanent, so much a part of a national consensus, in 1964.--Bill Boyarski, Los Angeles Times A focused, stimulating account that demonstrates that many of the best contemporary works of the Sixties are about the rise of the Right.--Library Journal A fascinating tale . . . Suburban Warriors goes a long way to explaining the origins of a movement whose influence remains formidable to this day.--Stephen Dale, Washington Post Book World Endorsements: A landmark study that will enlighten anyone who cares about the evolution of American politics since World War II. With Lisa McGirr's thorough, sophisticated, smoothly crafted exploration of Orange County conservatism, the history of the modern Right has finally come of age.--Michael Kazin, Georgetown University, coauthor of America Divided and The Populist Persuasion In her impressively researched, gracefully written book, Lisa McGirr convincingly demonstrates that historians, who have been preoccupied with the Left in the 1960s, need to develop a deeper comprehension of how conservatives in places such as Orange County reconfigured American political culture. Readers will find her attempt to understand them, rather than dismiss or condemn them, both rewarding and challenging.--William E. Leuchtenburg, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill More endorsements Table of Contents List of Illustrations ix Acknowledgments xi INTRODUCTION 3 CHAPTER 1 The Setting 20 CHAPTER 2 A Sleeping Giant Is Awakening: Right-Wing Mobilizatio, 1960-1963 54 CHAPTER 3 The Grassroots Goldwater Campaign 111 CHAPTER 4 The Conservative Worldview at the Grass Roots 147 CHAPTER 5 The Birth of Populist Conservatism 187 CHAPTER 6 New Social Issues and Resurgent Evangelicalism 217 EPILOGUE 262 Notes 275 Bibliography 351 Index 379 Series: Politics and Society in Twentieth Century America William Chafe, Gary Gerstle, and Linda Gordon, Editors Subject Areas http://pup.princeton.edu/titles/7031.html A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION
[CTRL] Sample Chapter for McGirr, L. Suburban Warriors The Origins of the New American
-Caveat Lector- http://pup.princeton.edu/chapters/s7031.html A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Secret Weapons Two Sisters' Terrifying True Story of Sex,, Spies and Sabotage
-Caveat Lector- Barnes Noble.com - Secret Weapons : Two Sisters' Terrifying True Story of Sex, Spies and Sabotage From the Critics From Publisher's Weekly - Publishers Weekly Now in their late 30s, the Hersha sisters claim to have experienced chilling childhoods, recounted here by two Ohio-based investigators Schwarz (The Hillside Strangler) and former police captain and ritual abuse expert Griffis who say they have studied declassified CIA files and interviewed military personnel in an effort to bolster the Hersha memories. Before the age of seven, the sisters say, they were inducted into a covert, government-authorized, mind-control program designed to spawn spies and assassins. During weekends and summers, they were subjected to traumatizing experiments. Cheryl tells of her days as a caged lab rat, released to navigate electrified mazes. The two became psychological captives, programmed to respond to code words. Following practice in weaponry, martial arts and flight training, altered identities were purportedly introduced. At 15, Lynn was made part of a unit that experienced murder, and she assumed the identity of team leader Lt. Rick Shaw. As the seductive Samantha Gooding, Cheryl would paralyze her victims, and she later became the cocky chopper pilot Sgt. Thomas O'Neil. Naturally, these two men, long separated, were destined to meet: Cheryl Hersha! It's me, Lynn, your sister. You've got to let me go. You can't shoot me. Credibility collapses, as improbabilities are piled on inconsistencies, and the truth is buried beneath simplistic, pulp-adventure prose. In closing, the authors claim that Their story is true, following with an admission that they found no government documents about the program or the sisters. An elaborate disclaimer about the presumed thoughts and imagined words of the participants will lead many readers to ponder just how much real events have been fictionalized. (Mar.) Forecast: Since Walter Bowart's Operation Mind Control (1978) and Donald Bain's The Control of Candy Jones (1976), many books about CIA mind control have stacked up. This account of The Manchurian Candidate meets La Femme Nikita will soon work its way toward the bottom of the stack. Copyright 2001 Cahners Business Information. From Internet Book Watch In the last half of the twentieth century the American government carried out secret, heinous experiments designed to create and perfect soldiers and spies. Cheryl and Lynn Hersha were two sisters who, as children, were caught up in some of these top secret programs of torture and mind control that went under such covert titles as Monarch, Artichoke, MKULTRA, and Paperclip. In Secret Weapons: Two Sisters' Terrifying True Story Of Sex, Spies And Sabotage, the sisters effective collaborate with Dale Griffis and Ted Schwarz to reveal and analyze these black box operations through previously classified CIA files, the sister's own personal experiences, as well as extensive and informative interviews with experts to document one of the most chilling and incredible aspects of American history and one that never made it into any American history books. CUSTOMER REVIEWS - An Open Forum Number of Reviews: 1Average Rating: A reviewer, April 5, 2001, A Book for all Americans to Read It would be easy to dismiss this book as craziness or fiction if it were not for the thorough investigation into this type of activity through declassified CIA documents, and other witnesses and survivors. These kinds of horrible activities should not be dismissed from our minds because they are uncomfortable. We need anger and dicomfort to create change. Remember, there used to be a day in this country when no parent perpetrated acts of violence on their children. This book is not enjoyable but rivetting and necessary. RELATED TITLES More on this subject Fiction and Literature Thrillers and Espionage Copyright 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001 barnesandnoble.com llc A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A
Re: [CTRL] HELLO COMRADES -- ALGERIA MEETING -- Antiimperialist Camp News
-Caveat Lector- I love it! Schlafley followed by this in the digest! These be the comrades from the International Leninist Current, no? The Milosevic fan club? Like those old Soviet Peace Council meetings? Michael Pugliese Message: 4 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 16:17:20 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: HELLO COMRADES -- ALGERIA MEETING -- Antiimperialist Camp News Subj:Open Letter to 15th World Festival in Algeria Date: 6/20/2001 8:39:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Antiimperialist Camp News) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Open letter to the International Preparatory Committee of the 15th World Festival of Youth and Students in Algeria Dear comrades, Please accept our fraternal greetings to you and all the participants of the forthcoming international festival. We welcome the festival as one expression of the struggle against imperialism which is suffocating the peoples of the world and even threatening the very existence of humanity. In order to defeat our common enemy all the anti-imperialist forces around the world must co-operate and strive to join hands in this struggle for life and death. This is why we propose that we mutually exchange delegation between the World Festival, August 8-16, and the Anti-imperialist Camp, Assisi, July 28-August 5. However, we have some burning questions regarding the most urgent necessities of the global anti-imperialist struggle: Why have you chosen Algeria as the place to meet? You must have been aware of the civil war raging in this tortured county since one decade during which the regime has proved to be a model pupil of the IMF? (as your German preparatory committee admits it openly; see http://weltfestspiele.online.de/kabylei1.html, May 29, 2001) You refer to the glorious Algerian liberation struggle but these times have definitely gone. Already in 1988 the Algerian youth has been protesting against the austerity programme imposed on them by the regime servile to imperialism and was crushed violently. Non of the popular demands have been met and in the early 90ies a military dictatorship has been erected in order to keep the pro-Western regime in power against the free will of the overwhelming majority of the population. And why you keep insisting in this emergency situation? Today the regime is about to repress another legitimate social rebellion blaming it to be separatist. But this is simply a pretext as the movement in Kabylia has met strong echo in the poor arabophone youth and has explicitly stated to defend the national unity of Algeria as a gain of the liberation struggle. Do you really think that an anti-imperialist gathering can take the support of such a regime and thus support it politically? And what about the solidarity with the Palestinian people? Their new Intifada is a cry for international solidarity. With no word you mention the necessity to stop the Zionist massacre and that all democratic and peace-loving forces of the world urgently have to rally behind this sorely afflicted people to defend their most elementary human right against the Israeli and Western humanitarian crusaders: the right of self-determination. We also have to insist on the solidarity with the Colombian people. One of the most powerful popular movements of the world is defending itself in arms against a cruel war unleashed by the narco-oligarchy backed by US imperialism. Millions have lost their land and have been displaced, tens of thousands of militant peasants and workers have been killed by the death squads. With the Plan Colombia imperialism is stepping up its aggression. Therefore we have to take immediate action. We hope that you will consider our suggestions and will choose a different place for the festival. We would be happy if we could reach commitments for common action not only referring to the solidarity with the most outstanding anti-imperialist struggles but also for a more general and systematic co-operation which should be the concrete outcome of our international gatherings. With the most fraternal anti-imperialist greetings The political committee of the anti-imperialist camp June 19, 2001 Antiimperialist Camp PF 23, A-1040 Vienna, Austria TelFax +43 1 504 00 10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.antiimperialista.com/en To unsubscribe from: Antiimperialist Camp News, just follow this link: http://www.antiimperialista.com/cgi-bin/mojo/mojo.cgi?f=ul=Antiimperialist_ Ca mp_News[EMAIL PROTECTED]p=16645 Click the link, or copy and paste the address into your browser. --- Headers Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (rly-zd04.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.228]) by air-zd04.mail.aol.com (v79.20) with ESMTP id MAILINZD46-0620113918; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:39:18 -0400 Received: from westhost44.westhost.net (westhost44.westhost.net [216.71.84.227
Re: [CTRL] [wtpatltotrtf] From Ron / From Pam Schuffert in Germany
-Caveat Lector- Message: 20 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:38:23 -0600 From: Dr Byron Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: shackles and guillotines I am interested to see this analysis from such a reliable source. I have always had difficulty believing the wild stories about hundreds of thousands of Russian and other foreign troops being concealed within our borders. Why would they need to be here, aside from the joint training exercises? Our shores are relatively undefended, and our borders are open and sieve-like. The enemy can come across almost anywhere when the time comes. One begins to learn who the crazies and the overzealous so-called patriots are out there who continually sound the drumbeat of disinformation. How many of them are wittingly or unwittingly contributing to the doubts those who stubbornly refuse to grant any credibility to the real warnings the genuine watchers on the wall? I plan to try to be more wary and less gullible in the future. Byron Weeks - From: Michael Pugliese [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 9:50 PM Subject: [ParanoidTimes] shackles and guillotines The New American Vol. 10, No. 22 October 31, 1994 Fact and Fiction by William F. Jasper Sifting reality from alarmist rumors http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/1994/vo10no22.htm [...] Fraud and Fancy Another newsletter, Monetary and Economic Review, reported in March 1993 that reports are coming in of railroad cars that are specially equipped with shackles built into the walls for prisoner transport. One railroad car in the Cut Bank, Montana area was loaded with handcuffs, shackles and guillotines. Sound bizarre? Well, yes, now that you mention it, especially since no evidence is provided. Presumably these handcuffs, shackles, and guillotines are to be used by FINCEN, which is the UN's next level of law enforcement. FINCEN is made up of foreign military and secret police that number about 300,000 in the U.S. at present. The newsletter cited as its source for that information one Mark from Michigan, a lecturer whose video presentations have stirred anxiety among patriots nationwide about massive invading forces already within our borders. The newsletter continued: These FINCEN troops are ferried around by black helicopters that people have reported seeing all over the country, and were shown on TV in Waco. In November 1990, President Bush signed an executive order that transferred one third of our strategic reserve aircraft over to FINCEN at a cost of $12.8 billion to the U.S. taxpayer. They were painted black and have no markings, and are now used by FINCEN. (For more information on FINCEN, see the Black Helicopters sidebar on page 29.) Like many other publications circulating this story, Monetary and Economic Review included a map marked with circles and Xs purporting to show the locations of U.N. battle groups on U.S. soil. Quoting Mark from Michigan, the newsletter declared: Located in the Sacramento area is a 34,000-man battle group. This was particularly interesting news to this writer, who lives in the Sacramento area and who has numerous reliable sources at the various military bases in the region -- all of whom laughed at the story. Ditto for the law enforcement officers who patrol the area and the private pilots who overtly the entire territory on a regular basis and who could reasonably be expected to notice such a large deployment, even if it were divided into several smaller groups.* * This, of course, does not prove that there are not hundreds of thousands of Russian/foreign/UN troops dispersed and concealed throughout the country, since one can't prove a negative. Besides, one must grant that this is a big country with plenty of rural and urban areas where it would be possible to hide large numbers of men and equipment, and that the Soviets have proven themselves time and again to be masters of what they call Maskirovka -- camouflage or concealment. Nevertheless, the burden of proof rests with those who make the charges, and while reasonable minds may nibble at seemingly outlandish charges, they demand at least a modicum of substantiating evidence before swallowing the whole thing. The same map, along with several others allegedly depicting the whereabouts of MJTF and FINCEN gestapo units, appears in Cheque Mate: The Game of Princes, a book on the new world order by Jeffrey Baker published in 1993. In this case the author is at least fairly open about the fact that he is passing on mere hearsay, even if at the same time he seems to be half vouching for its validity with the serious attention he gives it: If these maps (and the information on them) are authentic, there are also United Nations Battle Groups whose entrance to the United States was passed under Presidential Executive Order signed 11 November 1990 by George Bush. There appear to be fifteen locations on this map. - Original
Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: Do you recognize these tactics?] (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Heh, Bircher Bacon sends the hoax from 1919 to the list, Communist Rules of Revolution.!!! http://www.google.com/search?q=Communist+Rules+of+Revolution+1919+btnG=Goog le+Searchhl=ensafe=active My Stalinist enemies, call me a Red-Baiter, I'll send it to them as a joke. They are so humourless, they'll send me hate mail for days afterwards! And here, loon, Aleisha, will make a connection to the Mossad... A good book (putting to the side the Communist fellow-travellling, which is pretty blatent, on the part of the author) on far right quote hoaxes re; Lenin and the Bolshies, is by a fellow last name, Kominsky. Title, The Hoaxers, from the early 60's. Lotsa public libraries have it. Why, because the ALA is a Commie Secular Humanist Illuminati Bilderberger Front! ;-) Michael Pugliese - Original Message - From: William Bacon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 3:48 PM Subject: SNET: [Fwd: Do you recognize these tactics?] (fwd) -Caveat Lector- visit my web site at http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon My ICQ# is 79071904 for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto: http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon/Enumerated.html -- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 08:07:50 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SNET: [Fwd: Do you recognize these tactics?] - SNETNEWS Mailing List Original Message Subject: Do you recognize these tactics? Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 19:54:12 -0400 From: At one time this was on Lynne's web site I do not know if it still is. Her web site is http://www.icehouse.net/lmstuter/ Do you recognize these tactics? War Chest of Techniques For the Sole Purpose of Psychological Manipulation of Individuals, committees, and groups as well as the public. This has been developed by Government/Educational Agencies: -Definitions critical to understanding the PROCESS 1) Delphi Technique: Opposition is made to look dogmatic, unreasonable, inarticulate, and unknowledgeable. (If you don't like the message shoot the messenger. Character assassination a must when unable to defend position via the scientific method.) 2) Crisis Intervention: Create a crisis, artificial or real, and then come in with your own solution. 3) Consensus/group thought: Must think alike in order to be part of the group. 4) Dialectics: Forced conflict in order to force compromise/ ever evolving toward ultimate goal. 5) Position of POWER: Gives control of information dissemination, ultimate power of selecting who is and who is not placed on any given committees- control this and the outcome is a given. 6.) Develop Stakeholders: Those who have a stake in making it happen. Stakeholders are reached by appealing to their pocketbooks, (money talks) by recognition, by power, by a feeling of goodwill, and Last by one's ideology/world view. 7) Develop special people to become change agents- people who are fully trained in all aspects of psychological warfare. Minor Points: 1) Mix a little truth into a lie, and tell the lie often enough and the public will believe it. 2) Bombard and overwhelm the public with information 3) Well constructed surveys will prove anything one wants to prove 4) Befriend the opposition to pick up clues in how to plan strategies in dealing with the opposition. 5) Frame the issues or put the spin on information in such a way as to appeal to as many people as possible. 6) Orwellian Doublespeak: Choose words that mean one thing to one person and something quite different to someone else: example: Educational Standards- to most parents this means academic standards, to big business especially international business as in global economy this means job training/ job skill standards, a cheap and compliant workforce to compete in the global economy and to those who believe in the nanny state government it means standards for reshaping, remolding good little politically correct Children. 7) Clintonian/ Orwellian Doublespeak: Example- A tax increase is not really a tax hike, but is an increased contribution to the government to the village for the betterment of society, combine Delphi and define anyone who is opposed to the increased contribution as greedy scrooges. Or , It takes a village to raise a child- what that really means it takes the Government, or the Nanny State Government to raise a child. Parents you are basically obsolete, Parents bear in mind here, only the village idiot would let the entire village in on the task of raising their children. 8) Marathon Meetings/ Long Meetings: designed to wear people down, people more likely to go along with flow in order to bring things to a close. --Communist Rules For Revolution -(Captured at Dusseldorf In May 1919 by Allied Forces) 1. Corrupt the Young: get them away from religion. Get them interested in sex. Make
Re: [CTRL] Communist Rules for Revolution
-Caveat Lector- http://www.snopes2.com/spoons/document/commrule.htm Communist Rules for Revolution Claim: A list of Communist Rules for Revolution was discovered by Allied forces in Germany in 1919. Status: False. Example: Communist Rules for Revolution In May 1919 at Dusseldorf, Germany, the allied forces discovered a copy of these 'Rules.' They were first printed in the United States in the 'Bartlesville (Oklahoma) Examiner-Enterprise' the same year, 1919. Almost 20 years later, in 1946, the attorney general of Florida obtained them from a known member of the Communist Party, who acknowledged that the 'Rules' were then still a part of the Communist program for the United States. 1. Corrupt the young; get them away from religion. Get them interested in sex. Make them superficial; destroy their ruggedness. 2. Get control of all means of publicity, thereby: 3. Get people's minds off their government by focusing their attention on athletics, sexy books, plays and immoral movies. 4. Divide the people into hostile groups by constantly harping on controversial matters of no importance. 5. Destroy the people's faith in their natural leaders by holding the latter up to contempt, ridicule and disgrace. 6. Always preach true democracy, but seize power as fast and as ruthlessly as possible. 7. By encouraging government extravagance, destroy its credit, produce years of inflation with rising prices and general discontent. 8. Incite unnecessary strikes in vital industries, encourage civil disorders and foster a lenient and soft attitude on the part of government toward such disorders. 9. Cause breakdown of the old moral values - honesty, sobriety, self-restraint, faith in the pledged word, ruggedness. 10. Cause the registration of all firearms on some pretext, with a view to confiscate them and leaving the populace helpless. Origins: A time-honored ploy in the political arena has been to discredit your opponents (and their ideas) by demonizing them, by associating them with . . . well, demons. In the twentieth century, this has usually meant claiming that the ideas your opponents advocate were implemented by Nazis or Communists, or were recognized by them as means of softening up a country and making it ripe for totalitarian takeover. So, for example, if you oppose gun registration, or you think we the films industry should be more heavily regulated to prevent it from corrupting our youth, just point to this document and proclaim that the Communists came to power in Russia because the previous government had imposed the mandatory registration of firearms and allowed callow youth to idle away their time watching immoral movies. As shown in the example above, this document is usually claimed to have been discovered in May 1919 at Dusseldorf, Germany, by allied forces and first printed in the United States in the Bartlesville, Oklahoma Examiner-Enterprise. Although the Examiner-Enterprise is a real newspaper, none of this rings true. Language about getting the young interested in sex and focusing their attention on sexy books and fretting about the registration of all firearms sound out of place for 1919. Even if this document really had been found in 1919, it's unlikely Americans would have found it alarming back then, when the German hun was still a much bigger bogeyman than the Russian communist. And not surprisingly, nobody has ever managed to turn up the mysterious issue of Examiner-Enterprise that supposedly printed it. When columnist Bob Greene checked out this piece with Russian specialists at the University of Chicago and Northwestern University in the mid-1980s, they said the list was a total fraud, an obvious fabrication, and an implausible concoction of American fears and phobias. (Greene also wrote: I always wanted to meet a communist who was carrying the list around, so I could ask him what 'obloquy' means.) When The New York Times ran an article on this piece way back in 1970, it had already been circulating for about twenty-five years. The Times reported that neither the National Archives, the Library of Congress, nor university libraries had a copy of any such document. When Montana senator Lee Metcalf looked into the issue back then, he checked with the FBI, CIA, and the Senate Internal Security Subcommittee; found that exhaustive research had proved the rules to be completely spurious; and noted that the extreme right also follows rules, one of which is to make maximum use of false, misleading and fear-inspiring quotations. Nonetheless, numerous Congressional members received copies of the rules list from alarmed constituents and, believing that nobody else was yet aware of them, continued to insert them into the Congressional Record. The earliest known publication of these rules was in the periodical Moral Re-Armament in February 1946, and circulation of the list really took off after
[CTRL] : Americans' favorite institutions...
-Caveat Lector- ..the army, the church, and the cops... http://www.gallup.com/poll/indicators/indconfidence.asp. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Chuck Harder vs. the New World Order
-Caveat Lector- http://www.maxwell.syr.edu/maxpages/faculty/merupert/Research/far-right/HARD ER.HTM ...III. Critical Ambiguities of the New Populism We are witnessing the long and painful demise of the Fordist socio-political regime through which American industrial workers were incorporated into the hegemonic bloc which constructed the postwar global order. Finding their economic security and their political identity increasingly problematic, the easy certainties of the Cold War no longer providing fixed ideological reference points, American working people are trying to make sense of a rapidly changing world. It is in this context that alternative narratives of globalization increasingly challenge the blandishments of liberal internationalists. Some of these interpretations emphasize the anti-democratic character of transnational capitalism and the need to construct popular-democratic institutions within the world economy. Others view globalization as a process infused with evil intent, the product of un-American treacheries designed to undermine the Constitutional republic and its guarantees of individual rights. These latter interpretations tend to emphasize nationalism as a first line of defense against the insidious forces of globalization. Such alternative visions of globalization are circulating among various segments of the US population, seeking to embed themselves in popular common sense and thus to define the horizons of political action in this period of tension and flux. This unfolding struggle over the meaning of globalization in popular common sense, with all its tensions and possibilities, is represented in microcosm in the story of Chuck Harder and the United Broadcasting Network (UBN), referred to by the Wall Street Journal as 'Populist Inc.'. According to a UBN promotional bulletin, Harder has been a professional broadcaster since the 1960s. As a consumer affairs reporter, he is said to have become disillusioned with 'the 'velvet hammer' of corporate media,' which dampens anti-corporate messages to avoid offending advertisers. Harder left his mainstream media job in 1987, and invested his life savings to start a radio program for 'the little guys who had no voice'. Controversially, in 1989 Harder sold a majority stake in his first venture, the Sun Radio Network, to another network controlled by the Liberty Lobby - a group which calls itself 'populist' but pushes an anti-Semitic agenda of Holocaust denial and tales of global conspiracies by stateless 'international bankers'. After a brief partnership, Harder broke with Liberty Lobby and left Sun to start the People's Radio Network (PRN). Founded in 1991 with 72 stations, PRN has grown to around 300 radio stations in all 50 states, as well as 77 TV stations. According to journalist Marc Cooper, More than 40,000 listeners pay a minimum of $15 a year to belong to [Harder's] For the People organization. For an extra $19 a year another 30,000 followers subscribe to the biweekly, full color, thirty-two-page News Reporter...From merchandise sales and memberships, People's Radio Network grossed more than $4 million in 1994. Broadcast industry surveys show Harder outperforming such high-profile personalities as Michael Reagan and Oliver North, some ranking him among America's top ten radio talk-show hosts. Harder's radio show represents itself in the following terms: 'For the People seeks to provide a forum for the average citizen to learn about consumer information and the workings of our government. Because the program is financially supported by listeners rather than advertisers, Harder speaks without fear of corporate censorship or reprisals.' Harder says: 'Our goal is to save the middle class, save the little guy'. Harder and his guests - including such heavy hitters as Ralph Nader and Pat Buchanan - have routinely excoriated corporate power and a government which they represent as unresponsive to popular needs and concerns. He and his guests have, on a variety of grounds, been sharply critical of recent trade agreements such as the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT) and the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA). During the NAFTA debate, Harder excited the interest of his listeners to such a degree that seven thousand of them bought copies of the full 2,000 page text of the NAFTA agreement which Harder made available at low cost. Recently, Harder's network was purchased by a consortium of investors including the United Automobile Workers (UAW). One of the most historically progressive of American industrial unions, the UAW is investing 'several million' dollars for a share of about ten percent in the re-named United Broadcasting Network (UBN) which, according to the Wall Street Journal, is 'designed to bring Mr. Harder to a wider audience by upgrading technology and buying stations in major markets'. As UAW public relations chief Frank Joyce explained to me, the union views UBN as a broad-based effort to present
Re: [CTRL] The Truth About Black Slavery And The Confederate Flag
-Caveat Lector- Disposable People: New Slavery in the Global Economy. Berkeley: University of California Press. By K. Bales, published in '99. http://www.ucpress.edu/books/pages/8428.html As fine and accessible a work of investigative reporting as any of the best that have appeared over the last decade. Serious, impassioned, and unflinching, he has told a story that is too often ignored, and that, as he points out, shames us all.-- The National Post (Canada) If you read no other book this year, read this one. --The Santa Rosa Press Democrat Kevin Bales knows pretty much all there is to know about slavery in the contemporary world. In Disposable People he parlays a combination of fact and indignation into a compelling indictment of an aspect of globalism most of us prefer not to think about. This is a timely and important expose. Bales has cast a little light into a very dark place.-- The Globe Mail An insightful overview [and] a powerful exposé of human tragedy.-- Dallas Morning News A numbing indictiment of our blindness to the new forms of slavery engendered by the global economy.--Kirkus Reviews A book replete with both fascinating reportage and acute analysis.--Times Literary Supplement At its best an empirically informed general discussion of slavery in the modern world economy. --Times Higher Education Supplement Bales is to be congratulated for bringing the immensity of the slavery problem to our attention. News accounts have highlighted the horrors of child labor, of exploited women in the developing world and abuses of workers in Latin America, but Bales's work shows how widespread and multi-faceted are the many problems that lead to treating people as disposable assets.--Joyce M. Davis, The Boston Book Review This sober, well-researched, pioneering study . . . is about the first to explore slavery in its modern international guise. . . . A convincing and moving book. One can only hope that it will draw some attention to the terrible phenomenon it describes.--The Financial Times Blood-chilling facts and clear analysis.--Booklist A gripping account of the major forms slavery takes around the world today, introducing enslaved people, their families, and entire social strata deprived of the most basic rights. . . . Disposable People is an eloquent plea. . . . Avoiding easy moralism and sensationalism alike, it discloses the daily soul-destroying brutality of slavery on our planet today.--Paul Rosenberg, The Christian Science Monitor Because of globalization, Bales argues, every consumer is linked to slavery and the final chapter explains practical ways of helping to bring it to an end. Begin by buying this book-all proceeds go to the international fight against slavery.--The Sunday Tribune The system is chillingly described in Disposable People. . . --New York Times Convincing, emotionally wrenching, and freighted with appropriate moral indignation, Kevin Bales's startling presentation shows us that while the general public is convinced slavery is a historical phenomenon of the ancient past . . . it is in actuality a widespread tragedy found worldwide and on a large scale. This book innovatively and usefully describes the permutations of an ancient tradition as it exists in this modern day and age.--Richard Pierre Claude, editor of Human Rights Quarterly A timely and fascinating book . . . of crucial importance. Few people realize that the increasing globalization of the economy has led to the use of coerced labor in many parts of the globe. . . . Bales has traveled widely and has gathered a great amount of shocking and disturbing information.--David Brion Davis, Director, Gilder Lehrman Center for the Study of Slavery and Abolition, Yale University A well-researched, scholarly and deeply disturbing exposé of modern-day slavery with well-thought-out strategies for what to do to combat this scourge. None of us is allowed the luxury of imagined impotence. We can do something about it.--Desmond Tutu DESCRIPTION (back to top) Slavery is illegal throughout the world, yet more than twenty-seven million people are still trapped in one of history's oldest social institutions. Kevin Bales's disturbing story of slavery today reaches from brick kilns in Pakistan and brothels in Thailand to the offices of multinational corporations. His investigation of conditions in Mauritania, Brazil, Thailand, Pakistan, and India reveals the tragic emergence of a new slavery, one intricately linked to the global economy. The new slaves are not a long-term investment as was true with older forms of slavery, explains Bales. Instead, they are cheap, require little care, and are disposable. Three interrelated factors have helped create the new slavery. The enormous population explosion over the past three decades has flooded the world's labor markets with millions of impoverished, desperate people. The revolution of economic globalization and modernized agriculture has dispossessed poor farmers, making them
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Yahoo! Groups : marxist Messages :Message 893 of
-Caveat Lector- Heh, been reading your David Icke, eh? http://www.publiceye.org/Icke/Table%20of%20Contents.htm Michael Pugliese ak/a Illuminati ;-) - Original Message - From: Andrew Hennessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 8:12 AM Subject: Re: Fwd: Yahoo! Groups : marxist Messages :Message 893 of -Caveat Lector- its like the marxists are living in the 'real'world of practical 'revolution' where in their world view some funny aircraft lights fly overhead that middle class loons call aliens and its all just some middle class game etc etc classic cardboard marxism - these guys want to come to scotland and work hard here - there isn't a middle class anymore - just a big bunch of poor people and some very rich dudes - but if the marxists want to get real - and really look into the loony alien posts - they will see that they are the ones who are off the pace - and had better get real real soon. andrew hennessey [more 'of the people' than they are because I'm sane] most of the abductees I interview are ordinary poor people The Marxists will NEVER have a successful revolution unless they can accept that Telepathic Shapechanging Reptoids probably run and have infiltrated their organisation at every level - thats why the status quo NEVER changes. - Original Message - From: Tenorlove [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 5:13 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Yahoo! Groups : marxist Messages :Message 893 of 4473 -Caveat Lector- I read the message. Wow, only 4 requests for online donations! What an altruistic bunch! snort __ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] colloidal minerals
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 4:23 PM Subject: Re: The decline of commercial agriculture ...Similar, colloidal minerals. Several likely suspects, a Dr. Joel Wallach seems to be the leader of the informal, cutthroat pack. He has several domain names registered, all with similar content and all selling a mineral supplement of unknown worth - he cites Senate Document #264 liberally as prima facie evidence of a problem that has only gotten worse, in his view. The Spotlight always has ads for colloidal silver generators for $99.95. http://www.m2ktalk.com/colloidalsilver.htm I looked into this a few months ago, this is what it did to one woman. http://homepages.together.net/~rjstan/ www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/PhonyAds/silverad.html http://www.google.com/search?q=Colloidal+silver+hoax http://www.google.com/search?q=Colloidal+Silver+scam I've heard about it. Michael Pugliese At 04:51 AM 6/14/01, Michael Perelman wrote: Albrecht only wrote in professional journals, such as Soil Science. He was never involved in popularizing his work or getting involved with cranks. The people at the US Department of Ag. held him in very high regard. I do not doubt that he was credentialed and had (has?) the respect of groups of people in various places, Dr. Wallach is also credentialed and has the respect of groups of people in various places. But did he say that the crops currently being grown are not as nutritious as they were before? Another possibility is that Dr. Albrecht's work, name and reputation are being hijacked by the quacks in the colloidal mineral industry. There may be a problem with depletion of minerals from soil, but has it really gotten worse, or are modern farming techniques cognizant of this and do they take steps to combat and minimize or reverse it? Even if the problem has gotten worse, is help really provided by colloidal mineral supplements? Every medical doctor I've ever spoken with has told me that, given the 'patient' has a proper diet, vitamin and mineral supplements are a waste of money, outside of a few specific exceptions (prenatal care for expectant mothers being one such). Google lists over 400 hits for senate document 264 - the vast and overwhelming majority are advertisement pages for companies who wish to sell colloidal mineral supplements, or pages written by those who have bought into the hoax (and who often refer to another webpage where colloidal mineral supplements can be purchased). This webpage http://www.colloidal.com.au/library/section1/soildepletion.htm (for example) links Senate Document #264 to the 1992 Earth Summit Report (both are mentioned on Dr. Wallach's webpages), the Earth Summit Report is also widely cited as a proof. Whatever G.H.W. Bush's other qualities (or lack thereof), he refused to sign any and all treaties emerging from that summit, which I find to be somewhat indicative of the relative worth of those documents. This one links the 1992 earth summit report to Dr. Albrecht, http://www.cancer-info.com/colloidal.htm Here is the rest of the story, on Senate Document #264: Written by Rex Beach, allegedly based on research by Dr. Charles Northern, it was actually an opinion piece printed in Cosmopolitan in 1936 (film at 11). http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/DSH/colloidalminerals.htm l Here is the National Council Against Health Fraud newsletter, which debunks a certain Dr. Wallach and his claims of mineral deficiency, it also debunks Senate Document #264 quite authoritatively: http://www.ncahf.org/nl/1998/1-2.html - it's a long page, here is the relevent excerpt: The most recent contribution to the body of counter information is offered by Donald Davis, PhD, of the University of Texas at Austin. Davis located Senate Document 264 cited by Wallach as evidence that 99% of Americans are deficient in minerals. It turns out that the document is nothing more than the reprinting of a highly speculative article about a passing fad written by a Florida farmer in the June, 1936, issue of Cosmopolitan magazine as requested by Florida's Senator Fletcher. Fletcher died 16 days after requesting that the government printing office reprint the article. Davis presented his findings in the November, 1997, Townsend Letter. Davis contacted NCAHF in January and reported than Wallach was continuing to promote this erroneous document as fact on at least 40 radio stations throughout the nation. NCAHF has received inquiries from abroad about Wallach's audiotape, asking for information on its veracity. Wallach's lies appear to have become a modern, urban legend. So it all comes back to Dr. Albrecht. Did he distance himself from that earlier quackery? Are there any empirical data, grounded in tests duplicated and confirmed by laboratory analyses of soil samples and mineral content
Re: [CTRL] (Fwd) APFN Alert - Standoff in Idaho
-Caveat Lector- When I saw this story originated in Sandpoint, Idaho, where Vincent Bertolini, the Aryan Nations moneybags, and the family is being represented by a Aryan Nations lawyer, I figured they must be Christian Identity. Nuff said. Michael Pugliese - Original Message - From: Nessie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 9:43 AM Subject: Re: (Fwd) APFN Alert - Standoff in Idaho -Caveat Lector- The victims are being portrayed as paranoid because they believe the government is trying to take their land and break up their family. Yet, by the governments own admission, these charges are precisely true. The familys belief that the fathers MS was caused by environmental pollutants is entirely within the realm of plausibility. By definition, its only paranoia if ones beliefs are not grounded in reality. This family is being persecuted because they are poor, and because their land is valuable. If they were Of Color, the Left would be outraged. But alas, they are white, so the Left is doing nothing to support them. Racism cuts both ways. For shame, Leftists, for shame. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] DynCorp In Colombia: Outsourcing the Drug War
-Caveat Lector- lasseyAgain, why are these people down there? Surely NO one believes any gov't really wants to win the drug war. If they really wanted it fixed it could have been fixed by now. But I don't believe that is the plan. Like the Vietnam war: we didn't win because it was never intended that we should win. The troops were not allowed to win. It was a farce. 'Ya right, 2.8 million dead Vietnamese and multiple times the tonnage of bombs dropped in all theatres of WWII, and that wasn't enough to beat the VC. Their country, their land, they whupped us and the French just like we whupped the Brits long ago. Give up the stabbed in the back myths.They have a whiff of late Weimar in them. Michael Pugliese A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: BadTrans Worm
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Michael Pugliese [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Adam Richmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 9:21 AM Subject: BadTrans Worm Dummy me opened an attachment that was advertised as a MP3, my antivirurus program zapped it. I think! Needless to say, don't open any attachments from me. Michael Pugliese Contains signature of Worm/BadTrans.2 File was destroyed by virus! WAS DELETED! C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS WIN98_24.CAB ArchiveType: CAB (Microsoft) NOTE! The archive is created by multiple volumes WIN98_25.CAB ArchiveType: CAB (Microsoft) NOTE! The archive is created by multiple volumes End of scan: 31.05.2001 08:52 Time taken: 19:54 min 946 directories were scanned 14016 files were scanned 2 warning messages were issued 1 file was deleted 0 viruses were removed 1 virus was found http://support.avx.com/cgi-bin/command.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_sid=QIm 7EqOfp_lva=p_refno=010412-08p_created=987090805p_sp=cF9ncmlkc29ydD0m cF9yb3dfY250PTUyJnBfc2VhcmNoX3RleHQ9JnBfc2VhcmNoX3R5cGU9MyZwX3Byb2RfbHZsMT1_ YW55fiZwX2NhdF9sdmwxPTQmcF9zb3J0X2J5PWRmbHQmcF9wYWdlPTE*p_li= Manually removing an infection from your computer can put your data at risk for damage that may or may not be recoverable. Central Command strongly recommends that you backup all of your data prior to attempting to remove an infection or repair any damage causes by an infection. Details: -- Name: I-Worm.Badtrans Alias: W32.Badtrans.13312@mm Detection added : April 12, 2001 Spread Method : Via E-Mail (A copy of the worm will be sent as a reply message to all unread emails in the users Inbox folder) Description: Worm part: - When the attachment is executed the worm drops the trojan hkk32.exe into the Windows folder and executes itself. A copy of worm is created under the file name inetd.exe in Windows folder. The following line is added to win.ini in [windows] section: run=c:\windows\inetd.exe. This line actually runs the worm every time windows load. After it finishes running its rountine, the worm will display the following error box: The worm will arrive with one of the following filenames: New_Napster_Site.DOC.scr Pics.ZIP.scr images.pif README.TXT.pif news_doc.scr searchURL.scr SETUP.pif Card.pif hamster.ZIP.scr YOU_are_FAT!.TXT.pif Me_nude.AVI.pif Sorry_about_yesterday.DOC.pif s3msong.MP3.pif Humor.TXT.pif fun.pif docs.scr It will also add, to the original message, the following line: Take a look to the attachment Trojan part: -- The hkk32.exe is a trojan called: Trojan.PSW.Hooker. This trojan drops a file called hksdll.dll used later as hook component to intercept pressed keys. A copy of the worm called kern32.exe is created in Windows folder and the original file hkk32.exe is deleted. It also add the following key to registry in order to be executed every time windows loads: HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce kernel32 = c:\windows\system\kern32.exe It sends information from infected computers to the email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Trust No One
-Caveat Lector- http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~ucurrent/uc6/6-grant.html A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Aliens in America Conspiracy Cultures from Outerspace to Cyberspace
-Caveat Lector- http://www.aliensinamerica.com/main.html A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] We Aren't the World.The Right Takes on the United Nations
-Caveat Lector- http://www.prospect.org/webfeatures/2001/05/mooney-c-05-09.html A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] IMF's Four Steps to Damnation
-Caveat Lector- ++ global economy network Campaign for America's Future http://www.ourfuture.org ++ 1. Palast: IMF's Four Steps to Damnation 2. Interview with Palast from Cleveland Free Times IMF'S FOUR STEPS TO DAMNATION - How crises, failures, and suffering finally drove a Presidential adviser to the wrong side of the barricades Gregory Palast Sunday April 29, 2001 The Observer It was like a scene out of Le Carré: the brilliant agent comes in from the cold and, in hours of debriefing, empties his memory of horrors committed in the name of an ideology gone rotten. But this was a far bigger catch than some used-up Cold War spy. The former apparatchik was Joseph Stiglitz, ex-chief economist of the World Bank. The new world economic order was his theory come to life. He was in Washington for the big confab of the World Bank and International Monetary Fund. But instead of chairing meetings of ministers and central bankers, he was outside the police cordons. The World Bank fired Stiglitz two years ago. He was not allowed a quiet retirement: he was excommunicated purely for expressing mild dissent from globalisation World Bank-style. Here in Washington we conducted exclusive interviews with Stiglitz, for The Observer and Newsnight, about the inside workings of the IMF, the World Bank, and the bank's 51% owner, the US Treasury. And here, from sources unnamable (not Stiglitz), we obtained a cache of documents marked, 'confidential' and 'restricted'. Stiglitz helped translate one, a 'country assistance strategy'. There's an assistance strategy for every poorer nation, designed, says the World Bank, after careful in-country investigation. But according to insider Stiglitz, the Bank's 'investigation' involves little more than close inspection of five-star hotels. It concludes with a meeting with a begging finance minister, who is handed a 'restructuring agreement' pre-drafted for 'voluntary' signature. Each nation's economy is analysed, says Stiglitz, then the Bank hands every minister the same four-step programme. Step One is privatisation. Stiglitz said that rather than objecting to the sell-offs of state industries, some politicians - using the World Bank's demands to silence local critics - happily flogged their electricity and water companies. 'You could see their eyes widen' at the possibility of commissions for shaving a few billion off the sale price. And the US government knew it, charges Stiglitz, at least in the case of the biggest privatisation of all, the 1995 Russian sell-off. 'The US Treasury view was: This was great, as we wanted Yeltsin re-elected. We DON'T CARE if it's a corrupt election. ' Stiglitz cannot simply be dismissed as a conspiracy nutter. The man was inside the game - a member of Bill Clinton's cabinet, chairman of the President's council of economic advisers. Most sick-making for Stiglitz is that the US-backed oligarchs stripped Russia's industrial assets, with the effect that national output was cut nearly in half. After privatisation, Step Two is capital market liberalisation. In theory this allows investment capital to flow in and out. Unfortunately, as in Indonesia and Brazil, the money often simply flows out. Stiglitz calls this the 'hot money' cycle. Cash comes in for speculation in real estate and currency, then flees at the first whiff of trouble. A nation's reserves can drain in days. And when that happens, to seduce speculators into returning a nation's own capital funds, the IMF demands these nations raise interest rates to 30%, 50% and 80%. 'The result was predictable,' said Stiglitz. Higher interest rates demolish property values, savage industrial production and drain national treasuries. At this point, according to Stiglitz, the IMF drags the gasping nation to Step Three: market-based pricing - a fancy term for raising prices on food, water and cooking gas. This leads, predictably, to Step-Three-and-a-Half: what Stiglitz calls 'the IMF riot'. The IMF riot is painfully predictable. When a nation is, 'down and out, [the IMF] squeezes the last drop of blood out of them. They turn up the heat until, finally, the whole cauldron blows up,' - as when the IMF eliminated food and fuel subsidies for the poor in Indonesia in 1998. Indonesia exploded into riots. There are other examples - the Bolivian riots over water prices last year and, this February, the riots in Ecuador over the rise in cooking gas prices imposed by the World Bank. You'd almost believe the riot was expected. And it is. What Stiglitz did not know is that Newsnight obtained several documents from inside the World Bank. In one, last year's Interim Country Assistance Strategy for Ecuador, the Bank several times suggests - with cold accuracy - that the plans could be expected to spark 'social unrest'. That's not surprising. The secret report notes that the plan to make the US dollar
[CTRL] Fw: NoSpray Newz #25: May 9, 2001
-Caveat Lector- No Spray Coalition PO Box 334 Peck Slip Station NYC 10272-0334 Hotline: (718) 670-7110 Listserve: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: www.nospray.org Media: (212) 343-2209 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The No-Spray fundraising letter is on the Gary Null website! http://www.garynull.com/issues/Pesticides/Spraying2001.htm Please make contributions (sorry, not tax deductible) to the No Spray Coalition, address above. Thanx. -- May 9, 2001 Hi NoSprayers, Still no ruling from the judges on our appeal. A supportive ruling would enable us to apply for an Injunction to block this year's spraying. Waiting waiting Meanwhile, Joel Meyers has been updating the NoSpray Web Site, and you should be able to read a number of legal documents, NoSpray Newz's, Robert Lederman's columns, and other great stuff in a few days. (Thanx Joel!) Lts and lots of work (and play) going on. Here's some things we need help on: a) Help mail out fundraising letters Thursday, May 10. We need around five more volunters here in NYC. Please call Cathryn to help, (212) 343-2209. b) Next No Spray Coalition general meeting, Tuesday, May 15th, 6:30 pm (place to be announced; -- if you have a suitable location we can use (fit 15-30 people) please let Mitchel know). c) Upper West Side (Manhattan) Forum, Wednesday, May 23rd, 6 pm, Blessed Sacrament School, 147 W. 70 St. (between Columbus Broadway) Lots of help needed leafletting stores, subways, churches. Contact Jody Friedman, (212) 787-0883. (and thanx to Sandi Miller for that spiffy new flyer!) d) Demonstrate against forced Electro Shock therapy. Called by Gary Null. No Spray should have some banners there (anyone want to make one?!) and flyers. Monday, MAY 21, 2001, at noon, at Attorney General Elliot Spitzer's office, 120 Broadway, lower Manhattan. Here's a message from Cathryn Swan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi. The No Spray Coalition needs your help in trying to raise funds and awareness to stop the impending spraying of toxic pesticides on us and our environment -- yet again. Despite intentionally ambiguous news reports, New York City has every intention of spraying pesticides this year. Here are some ways you can help: *FUNDRAISING MAILING - THURSDAY, MAY 10TH, MANHATTAN - volunteer help needed: If you are available Thursday, May 10th late afternoon evening, please join us for a fundraising mailing from either 4:30-7 or 7-9ish. We will be meeting in Soho, downtown Manhattan, convenient to all trains. Please contact me if you can help and I will forward the location. (And feel free to bring chips and beer.) *JOIN THE FUNDRAISING COMMITTEE: Interested in being part of the Fundraising Committee? Help plan benefit concerts, meet exciting musicians, see the world ... contribute other ideas. Please contact me, Cathryn, either by email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or via phone, #212/343-2209. *MEDIA COMMITTEE: Interested in joining the Media Committee in New York City? If you (or someone you know) is interested in putting together press kits, alerting/faxing the media, and more, please join. We'd like to do more press work could use help -- anyone with some time, resources, ideas is invaluable. Thank you. Mitchel's PS -- Cathryn Swan's done a great job keeping the media informed, getting out immediate counter statements from No Spray every time the officials open their mouths on the issue, and so forth. She needs help! CALL HER, PLEASE! *LOCAL EVENTS: If you'd like to set up a fundraising event in your area, the No Spray Coalition can arrange for speakers and provide information for flyers. At the last No Spray meeting, we began targetting neighborhoods in New York City for community meetings and teach-ins. Meg Feeley and Mitchel Cohen travelled to a meeting of the New Jersey Green Party last week. Jerseyites are beginning to set up a more active No Spray effort there. We'd like to see this expanded EVERYWHERE. If you can help with a meeting in your neighborhood or plug into what we've started, that would be great. Outside of New York City is very important ... New Jersey, Long Island, Boston, Cleveland, Detroit, North Carolina, more. Please let us know. We can provide dynamic speakers and information. And don't forget to tell your friends to come to the first No Spray forum of this year, which will take place on the Upper West Side, Manhattan, on Wednesday, May 23rd at 6 p.m. We are working on another one in the Lower East Side/Chinatown and also in Flushing, Queens; more are in the works. We need to mobilize local residents to participate. We CAN stop the poisoning of ourselves and the environment. We're making lots of headway. So let's GET IT ON! Leafletting in these areas is important as well. We'd like to have a month-long string of events. Please help set one up in your area. Contact Mitchel Cohen: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Welcome aboard a new
[CTRL] Did the Jews Kill Jesus by Benjamin Soskis
-Caveat Lector- http://slate.msn.com/code/explainer/explainer.asp?Show=4/27/2001idMessage=7 589 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] New Dawn
-Caveat Lector- http://www.shamash.org/listarchives/join-talk/980712 From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Jul 12 22:35:12 1998 From: Paul Gardner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: A forum for discussing Australian/Jewish issues and events. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [JOIN-TALK:3001] Re: Publicising names of One Nation member MIME-version: 1.0Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BITX-edited-by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 22:34:55 EDTReply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.06 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN David Fisher wrote My precise words were 'I think David Oldfield of One Nation is an antisemite'. Having seen on TV the manner on in which he referred to the group of Jews who published the 2,000 names I think he is. That is my only evidence. That is not saying he is one. That is saying I think he is one, and I think I have the right to say that.David Of course you have the right to think so, and to say so. You may even be right. But David Oldfield's anger at AIR for having his membership list partly exposed doesn't necessarily make him antisemitic. Perhaps he is one, but I would want some separate evidence, and so far I haven't seen any. I want to see One Nation vigorously opposed, and I support any legitimate ways of exposing their racist policies and countering their support. But let's do it carefully, and not use dubious procedures or make unjustified accusations, which can in the long run rebound on us as acommunity. PaulFrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Jul 12 22:36:31 1998 From: Frances [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: A forum for discussing Australian/Jewish issues and events. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [JOIN-TALK:3002] Re: Publicising names of One Nation members MIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bitX-edited-by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 22:36:16 EDTReply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.06 -- ListProc(tm) by CRENShalom David, I am not Jewish I am a Noachide. So I am probably more in touch with the thinking of Gentiles than you are. I am an 11th generation Australian, and I have watched this country change dramatically over the last 50 years. When Hitler came to power he got elected because he had political doctrines which appealed to Germany. Germany was in a terrible depression and the existing government was as useless as our own present government. That is why he had such success. The answer to the problem is for the present parties to lift their acts and begin to address problems such as your friendhas. I have seen this coming too. I tried to warn people in power, but greed is more powerful. Yes Pauline Hanson has some very strong points to make, if she did not she would not have such a strong attraction. But IMHO her methods for solving those problems are unworkable. When challenged recently about how she would fund her policies she stumbled and muttered something about taking the money from the Aborigines. I heard her speak about wanting 'foreigners' to be able to speak English before they arrived here. Yet her own language was virtually incomprehensible, even as she spoke. IMHO she is not smart enough to really understand what she is involved in. She is just 'very passionate', it seems to me that it is her 'minders' who are pulling her strings, and some of them are really dangerous. The other policies of Pauline Hanson, and her knee jerk response to the present situation, is ill considered and dangerous in the extreme. http://www.gwb.com.au/onenation/hanson/http://www.gwb.com.au/gwb/hanson.html I have been watching Pauline Hanson's present supporters for the last few years as they have evolved and been .. quite deliberately 'worked' by neo nazis, yes I said neo nazis! That is the problem! The ordinary farmer out there who just wants his farm to remain in his hands is being used by these people. These groups have been putting out propaganda for years, and the financial support for these groups has been coming in, at least one case that I know of, straight from Gaddafi, on behalf of his friends, Arafat andSaddam Hussein. The New Dawn Magazine in its initial stages at least was quite openly offering Gadaffi's Little Green Book, and carried pro Gadaffi articles in virtually every issue. I did some research several years ago together with a Jewish friend, and together we discovered the links of the magazine New Dawn which was financed and begun by men with connections to Libya, theirnames are below. http://www.smh.com.au/daily/content/features/features/970524/features8.html an excerpt from the above website. Yet Exposure, Nexus and New Dawn all deny being right-wing publications. New Dawn's co-founder, Robert Pash, acknowledges he flirted with extreme- Right politics as a teenager but says he abandoned those beliefs more than 15 years ago. Today, Pash is director of the Libyan Arab
[CTRL] Military Ballots and Thanksgiving Stuffing plan
-Caveat Lector- Did Bush camp encourage military personnel to vote after Election Day? In an excerpt from his new book, Jake Tapper uncovers the down and dirty partisan scuffle to win the Florida recount battle -- and the presidency. - - - - - - - - - - By Jake Tapper March 5, 2001 | In the heat of last fall's historic post- election presidential campaign, when advocates for Al Gore and George W. Bush were navigating the swampy world of Florida election law, some of the ugliest wrangling -- and some of the most legally debatable maneuvering on both sides -- centered on the counting of overseas absentee ballots. According to a knowledgeable Republican operative, the Bush camp even discussed a strategy that, if implemented, would have broken the law: organizing a post-election get-out-the-vote drive among overseas military personnel who had registered to vote but had not cast ballots by Election Day. Bush officials did not return calls seeking comment on the report. But according to the knowledgeable GOP source, on Saturday, Nov. 11, Bush's political team held a 60- to 90-minute conference call for campaign operatives scattered throughout Florida. In the course of the discussion, they discussed having political operatives near overseas military bases encourage soldiers who had registered to vote -- but never did -- to fill out their ballots and send them in, more than four days after the voting deadline. Was this plan, a blatant act of voter fraud, ever carried out? There's no concrete proof that it was, as of today -- and if it was, whoever was involved isn't talking. (Neither South Carolina-based strategist Warren Tompkins, who ran Bush's absentee ballot monitoring operation, nor Bush political director Ken Mehlman returned calls for comment.) What's not in doubt is the crucial role the overseas military ballots -- and the vicious, behind-the-scenes battle over whether to count them -- played in the outcome of the Florida vote and, ultimately, the election. Before the election, 23,246 overseas ballots were mailed out from the state of Florida, and more than half of them -- 14,415 -- had come in by Election Day. As of Nov. 13, Monday, Florida's 67 counties had received 446 military overseas ballots since Nov. 8. By Nov. 16, Thursday afternoon, that number had swelled to 2,575. By the next day, it was 3,733. There was certainly plenty of wrangling and duplicity on both sides when it came to the issue of overseas absentee ballots. At a time when the Gore team's mantra was "Count every vote," for instance, its attorneys were trying to disqualify any ballot cast by overseas military personnel that was even remotely questionable. And the Bush team -- worried about whether it would be hurt by the overseas absentee ballots, thanks to the high numbers of voters in Israel who might be energized by Joe Lieberman's presence on the ticket -- at first focused on trying to scope out and prevent possible voter fraud by the absentees. Gore-Lieberman garnered 80 percent of the Jewish vote Nov. 7, and estimates held that about 4,000 Florida Jews might be expected to cast absentee ballots from the land of milk and honey. It was clear to strategists on both sides, within days after Nov. 7, that they needed to supplement their focus on hand recounts with a side strategy on the overseas absentee ballots, which were due Friday, Nov. 17. The Bush team turned to Warren Tompkins -- who had helmed Bush's nasty South Carolina primary campaign against Arizona Sen. John McCain -- to coordinate its strategy. Days after the election, he put together a spreadsheet on the overseas absentee ballots, what had come in already, what had been counted, how many had been requested, how many were still expected in and so on. The overseas absentee ballots were likely to go their way, Tompkins told his colleagues, but he anticipated that the Democrats wouldn't make it easy for them to be accepted, and would challenge as many as possible. "You're kidding me," spokeswoman Mindy Tucker said. "They can't protest." "We think they're going to," Tompkins responded. Tucker wanted to let the press know about this at once, but she was overruled. Let's wait, she was told. It was on Nov. 11 that the Bush political team organized a conference call to discuss its absentee ballot strategy. In those first crazy days of the post-election battle, anywhere from a dozen to 60 or so people could have been on the call. Many matters were attended to. The group talked about finding volunteers to be observers in counties doing recounts. They talked about drumming up protesters. They talked about assigning operatives to different clerks' offices to wait for the overseas absentee ballots, and to report anything Democrats did to challenge them. And, according to a knowledgeable Republican source, in the course of this conversation the Bush team discussed having political operatives abroad encourage certain soldiers who had registered to vote -- but never did
Re: [CTRL] Anyone Have Any Articles on the Federal Reserve?
-Caveat Lector- Are you naive or just obtuse? Mullins, as any search on the net will show is a vicious, Jew baiting neo-fascist. Connectedb to Richard Kelly Hoskins, Aryan Nationsd, Posse Comitatus.Need sources? Do a search on google. Recommend esp. the nizkor archives and Political Research Associates. Michael Pugliese, raised in the old school of Catholic anti-semitism. I can smell overt and covert anti-semitic garbage a mile away. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Milosevic killed Stambolic over Swiss stash: Sunday Times
-Caveat Lector- Milosevic killed Stambolic over Swiss stash: Sunday Times LONDON, Sunday -- Slobodan Milosevic had Ivan Stambolic killed because he refused to turn over funds from secret Swiss bank accounts, the Sunday Times reported. During his time as Serbian president, Stambolic used his control of state bank Jubmes to engineer vast import-export deals, Serbian investigators told the Sunday Times. Jubmes bank financed the deals, but dealt with the huge profits off the books. Stambolic was known to be one of the few insiders aware of where Jubmes stashed the funds, the Sunday Times wrote. Milosevic toppled Stambolic from the Serbian presidency in 1988. During the next two years, his regime blew through 15.8 billion Deutschmark of Yugoslavia's foreign currency reserves, estimated at about 25.4 billion Deutschmark in 1991. In the meantime, banking authorities froze most of Yugoslavia's foreign assets. Scrabbling for cash before his September defeat, Milosevic pressed Stambolic to reveal details about the accounts. Foreseeing his own political comeback, Stambolic refused. Investigators believe Milosevic ordered his former "mentor" assassinated in retaliation, the weekly reports. Stambolic disappeared on August 25 last year while jogging. He is presumed dead. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FW: Re: The Arrest of Slobodan Milosevic
-Caveat Lector- --- Original Message --- From: Partija rada [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Pugliese [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Lacny [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 4/11/01 1:50:46 PM Dear Comrades! This is full picture of that what happened at April 1st. Reading carefully you'll find out who is who. Milan -Original Message- From: Michael Pugliese [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John Lacny [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Partija rada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 11 April, 2001 10:51 AM Subject: Fw: The Arrest of Slobodan Milosevic - Original Message - From: "AIM Maillist Server" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 4:21 PM Subject: AIM: The Arrest of Slobodan Milosevic Copyright: All those wishing to use or publish the following text are welcome to do so, provided that they indicate the source and inform the AIM office in Paris which is interested to receive comments and reactions on the information it provides. AIM, 17 rue Rebeval, F-75019 Paris, France, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The End of a Story *** The Arrest of Slobodan Milosevic A drama with singing, shooting, rumours, beating and negotiations much more than the developments of October 5 marked the definite end of everything Milosevic had represented. He alone has remained the same: after maximum doggedness, when he was faced with extreme consequences, he agreed to everything AIM Belgrade, April 2, 2001 In a transversal narrow street in Dedinje (elite part of Belgrade), around midnight on March 30, an elderly gentleman asked whether "People's Guard" of the Socialist Party of Serbia (SPS) were still guarding Slobodan Milosevic. Reporters which were in a hurry to the Justice Palace because rumour circulated that former president of FR Yugoslavia had just been taken there, replied with a counter-question: "Haven't you heard that he has just been arrested?", and in the following couple of moments they witnessed tumbling down of an entire world in the eyes of the old man. However, at that moment, Milosevic still was not locked up. Only after 36 hours of drama with singing, shooting, rumours, beating, pushing, swearing and negotiating it finally happened around 4.30 on April 1. Nevertheless, this whole spectacle, much more than the developments on October 5, 2000, marked the definite end of everything Milosevic had represented. The month of March, indeed, does not seem to have been marked by anything else but great expectations of the "arrest of all arrests". Several days before March 31 - the date President of the USA George Bush Junior and the Congress had set as the deadline by which official Belgrade was supposed to begin cooperation with the Hague Tribunal if it counted on getting American aid and a significant sum of money from the donors' conference - impatience had reached its climax. The new administration was caught in a very delicate situation: on the one hand there was the demand for the arrest and extradition of Slobodan Milosevic (the essence of American conditions), and on the other denials and acceptance of the Hague Tribunal and the division within the ruling coalition, the Democratic Opposition of Serbia (DOS) because of it. Momentary and unquestioning meeting of the demands of Washington was assessed by the authorities as the best way to acquire the image of "NATO yes-men" what the former regime had constantly accused them of, and nothing to say about the continuation of never-ending and unlimited pressure; should they refuse, the country would be left without foreign aid and in fact Milosevic's policy of "absolute sovereignty", isolation and opposition would continue. A solution was found at five minutes to twelve. An indictment was prepared for the former president of FR Yugoslavia for major abuse of power and financial embezzlement. He would be arrested not because of the American threat, but for violation of domestic laws at the request of the judiciary which is not at all bad, if for no other reason because majority of the public is in favour of that, anyway. However, in pretending that they were uninformed in connection with the embarrassing "coincidence", certain ministers and politicians were simply insulting for the common sense. That Milosevic is "this time certainly" "packing" was whispered on March 28; just a day later - everybody knew; on March 30, around 20.00 h - at least for media - everything began. The starting signal was sounded by Branislav Ivkovic, head of the SPS group of deputies in the Assembly of Serbia. About 19.00 h on March 30, the Socialists left the session of the parliament because, as Ivkovic had informed them, jeeps with members of special police units had appeared in front of number 11 Uziska street where Milosevics are living at the moment. There were two intentions: first, that Milosevic be summonsed to appear in front
[CTRL] Partija Rada
-Caveat Lector- Nazi pigs? In the pay of Djindic? 'Ya sure. Typical Stalinist style invbective right out of the era of, "The Trial of Trotskyite-Fascist Rights, " of the show trial of Bukharin in '36. Jela, you and B. Doncheva keep on reading that neo-fascist, Russian metaphysician, Alexander Dugin, O.K.! The rest of you, check out the "hits" at www.google.com for "Partija Rada" You will find them to be a revolutionary, Marxist-Leninist bunch, anti-Stalinist, anti-imperialist, against the "Red-Brown" Zyuganov type of reactionary politics that masquerades as communist but, is just a cover for the "Red Bourgeoisie" which is what they were called by student radicals in Yugoslaviua in 1968. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] We Bombed Chinese Embassy on Purpose
-Caveat Lector- http://www.sfbg.com/News/35/28/28pc.html 4. Did the U.S. deliberately bomb the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade? On May 7, 1999, U.S. planes bombed the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade. President Clinton called the bombing "a tragic mistake," the result of faulty maps provided by U.S. intelligence services. That was good enough for the American media, but it wasn't good enough for their overseas counterparts. Working together, reporters from the London Observer and Copenhagen's Politiken found U.S. and NATO government and military sources who told a different story. One official at the National Imagery and Mapping Agency, perhaps piqued at the assertion that his agency had botched its job, called the faulty-map story "a damned lie." In fact, according to these high-ranking sources, NATO deliberately targeted the Chinese Embassy, which was serving as a rebroadcast station for the Yugoslav army. After the Observer broke the story, the Associated Press wire service picked it up, but few major papers ran it. The Washington Post gave it 90 words in an international news briefs section, under the headline, "NATO Denies Story on Embassy Bombing." The New York Times didn't mention it at all. When the press watchdog group Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting asked the Times why it ignored the story, the paper's foreign editor described the Observer's piece as "not terribly well-sourced, by our standards at least." "It sounds like the Times might be holding out for a named official source," FAIR's Seth Ackerman told In These Times, "which is a standard of evidence that the Times likes to apply in cases where they would rather not report the story at all." Seth Ackerman, In These Times, 6/26/00; Joel Bleifuss, In These Times, 12/12/99; Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting staff report, 2/9/00; Yoichi Shimatsu, Pacific News Service, 10/20/99. Foreign coverage: the Observer (U.K.), Politiken (Denmark), Glasgow Herald (Scotland), the Scotsman (Scotland), South China Morning Post, the Times (U.K.). A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] In These Times - Mission Implausible
-Caveat Lector- http://www.inthesetimes.com/ackerman2415.html A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FAIR ACTION ALERT New York Times on Chinese Embassy Bombing Nothing to Report
-Caveat Lector- http://www.fair.org/activism/china-response2.html A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: WHO IS SINISA VUCINIC, THE LAST MAN WHO GUARDED FORMER DICTATOR SLOBODAN MILOSEVIC
- Original Message - From: Partija rada To: Viktor V. Bourenkov ; Unlimited News Service ; Stalinskaya lista ; Sandra van den Bosse ; Rosa Antifa Wien ; Omega ; Micheal Karadjis ; Michael Pugliese ; Marksisticko-lenjinisticka lista ; MARCEL CEFALLO ; KIM ; Indymedia Belgique ; ILC ; IKM ; ICMLPO ; Green Left Parramatta ; George G ; Egbert Wever ; Down with Capitalism ; Dorothea Jauernig ; Communist-Internet ; Communard News ; CN La Jugoslavia Vivra' ; C.A.R.B. ; Bill Howard ; Monty Neill Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 1:51 PM Subject: WHO IS SINISA VUCINIC, THE LAST MAN WHO GUARDED FORMER DICTATOR SLOBODAN MILOSEVIC WHO IS SINISA VUCINIC, THE LAST MAN WHO GUARDED FORMER DICTATOR SLOBODAN MILOSEVIC He began as a member of SNO (Srpska narodna obnova Serbian peoples renewal), a nationalist party from which comes also a well-known nationalist Vuk Draskovic, and extreme right-wing politician Vojislav Seselj. Then he was a president of Omladina Konzervativne stranke (Youth of Conservative Party). During 1992. he organized paramilitary organization Srpski sokolovi (Serbian eagles). In his interview to German newspapers "Der Spiegel" he say that he "killed for a hundreds of Moslems and Croats" and that as a commander he put on death squad "hundreds of prisoners". He also stated that he wish that Cyrillic symbols SS of his paramilitary organization make associations with Hitlers SS squads. To betrayed people to whom was stolen a money on different ways, and in different Banks, he promised that he will pay off them by confiscating of Jewish and Communist property. It is well known that he beat Gypsies for few times. At the end of 2000. he became a member of Direction of JUL (highest body in JUL), and a "Communist", same as his bellowed Slobodan Milosevic.
[CTRL] CJR - Big Stories, Spooky Sources, by Chip Berlet /Craig Hulet
-Caveat Lector- http://www.cjr.org/year/93/3/spooky.asp May/June 1993 | Contents BIG STORIES, SPOOKY SOURCES by Chip Berlet Berlet is an analyst at Political Research Associates in Cambridge, Massachusetts, where he studies authoritarianism, bigotry, and the far right. For an investigative journalist, reporting on official misconduct involving covert operations, intelligence-gathering, and national security issues is like competing in a potato-sack race in a minefield. All officials tend to be suspicious of the motives of nosy journalists; government spokespersons frequently deny first and dissemble later; meanwhile, actual spies tend to keep their mouths shut. As a result, sources for such stories frequently come from a murky netherworld of ex-intelligence agents, retired military officers, and self-anointed investigators. Some offer valuable information along with frustrating fantasies; some are well-meaning but confused; others are professional or amateur charlatans. A few are brilliant paranoid crackpots. Some people just plain lie. Over the past three years, this reporter has interviewed or read the relevant writings of more than fifty investigative reporters and researchers spanning the political spectrum. Most of them thought one should not minimize the continuing reality of illegal and unethical conduct by government and private intelligence operatives. But even those who agreed that tough reporting on these subjects help defend constitutional safeguards added that they have grown very weary of hearing the same unproved or debunked conspiratorial stories over and over again. "A lot of stories with conspiratorial themes have gone a great distance with very few credible witnesses," says Michael Kelly of The New York Times. "Some reporters use a much lower standard of evidence with these stories. They are tempted to take what they can get, and overlook the fact that the source has been convicted twice for perjury and on alternate Tuesdays he thinks he is Napoleon Bonaparte." If many of the key sources for conspiracy stories are unreliable, why are so many journalists tempted to use them? One reason is that, in an age of official denials, many journalists give unofficial sources the benefit of the doubt. Another is that, in some cases, the tales these sources tell provide a fairly clear-cut explanation of what may otherwise be a confusing welter of conceivably related events. In short, they provide a story line. A third reason is that they can usually supply details that seem to substantiate their version of events. When the details provided by two or three such sources mesh, the theory gains in credibility and the story built on it may gain wider attention in the media. Meanwhile, talk radio shows, interviews on small FM stations, even messages posted on computerized information networks contribute to keeping the theories alive -- and building an audience that wants to hear more. The following look at a selection of individuals and groups that have served as sources for recent conspiracy stories may help to point up the problems they can pose for journalists in both the print and broadcast media. Several spooky sources contributed to the October Surprise story line, according to which the 1980 Reagan-Bush presidential campaign made a deal with the Iranians to delay the release of American hostages until after the November elections, to help assume the defeat of Jimmy Carter. A key figure in that story, and one whose usefulness as a source has been attacked and defended in these pages, was former Israeli intelligence operative Ari Ben-Menashe (see "The October Surprise: Enter the Press, CFJ, March, 1992 / April, 1992, and "October Surprise: Unger v. Weinberg," Letters, May, 1992 / June, 1992). One journalist who took Ben-Menashe's allegations more seriously than most was Craig Unger, author of an October 1991 Esquire article titled "October Surprise." Following several attacks on the Surprise theory, Unger wrote a long, interesting article called "The Trouble With Ari," which appeared in The Village Voice in July 1992. There, more clearly than in his Esquire piece Unger explains the dilemma source of this kind poses for the journalist. After reminding readers that some of Ben-Menashe's claims can be corroborated and that he was "the guy who started talking about the clandestine American arms pipeline to Iraq's Saddam Hussein . . . long before the story started breaking in the press this spring," Unger writes: Ari has put five or six dozen journalists from all over the world through roughly the same paces. His seduction begins with a display of his mastery of the trade crft of the legendary Israeli intelligence services. A roll of quarters handy for furtive phone calls, he navigates the back channels that tie the spooks at Langley to their counterparts in Tel Aviv. His astute analyses and mindboggling revelations can stir even the most jaded old hand of the Middle East. . . . But trust
Re: [CTRL] Frankfurt School and Political Correctness
-Caveat Lector- Adorno would have hated PC. Stop reading that LaRoucheite junk. Or the "Cultural Communism" stuff on the Frankfurters via Paul Weyrich or Willis Carto or the Birchers... Read the accts. by Martin Jay_The Dialectical Imagination, Little Brown Press. or Rolf Wiggershaus_The Frankfurt School_ from M.I.T. Press. http://www.google.com/search?q=Rolf+Wiggershaus+The+Frankfurt+School http://www.google.com/search?hl=enlr=safe=offq=Frankfurt+SchoolbtnG=Goog le+Search Or the Douglas Kellner material, you'll find via the URL's above. Michael Pugliese A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Frankfurt School for the Dummies
-Caveat Lector- http://home.cwru.edu/~ngb2/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Theodor W. Adorno (Frankfurt School)./Theses against Occultism
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ldb.org/adorno.htm http://www.home.thirdage.com/education/ralphdavid/adornocc.html THESES AGAINST OCCULTISM by Theodor Adorno I. The tendency to occultism is a symptom of regression in consciousness. This has lost the power to think the unconditional and to endure the conditional. Instead of defining both, in their unity and difference, by conceptual labour, it mixes them indiscriminately. The unconditional becomes fact, the conditional an immediate essence. Monotheism is decomposing into a second mythology. "I believe in astrology because I do not believe in God", one participant in an American socio-psychological investigation answered. Judicious reason, that had elevated itself to the notion of one God, seems ensnared in his fall. Spirit is dissociated into spirits and thereby forfeits the power to recognize that they do not exist. The veiled tendency of society towards disaster lulls its victims in a false revelation, with a hallucinated phenomenon. In vain they hope in its fragmented blatancy to look their total doom in the eye and withstand it. Panic breaks once again, after millennia of enlightenment, over a humanity whose control of nature as control of men far exceeds in horror anything men ever had to fear from nature. II. The second mythology is more untrue than the first. The latter was the precipitate of the state of knowledge of successive epochs, each of which showed its consciousness to be some degrees more free of blind subservience to nature than had the previous. The former, deranged and bemused, throws away the hard-won knowledge of itself in the midst of a society which, by the all-encompassing exchange-relationship, eliminates precisely the elemental power the occultists claim to command. The helmsman looking to the Dioscuri, the attribution of animation to tree and spring, in all their deluded bafflement before the unexplained, were historically appropriate to the subject's experience of the objects of his actions. As a rationally exploited reaction to rationalized society, however, in the booths and consulting rooms of seers of all gradations, reborn animism denies the alienation of which it is itself proof and product, and concocts surrogates for non-existent experience. The occultist draws the ultimate conclusion from the fetish-character of commodities: menacingly objectified labour assails him on all sides from demonically grimacing objects. What has been forgotten in a world congealed into products, the fact that it has been produced by men, is split off and misremembered as a being-in-itself added to that of the objects and equivalent to them. Because objects have frozen in the cold light of reason, lost their illusory animation, the social quality that now animates them is given an independent existence both natural and supernatural, a thing among things. III. By its regression to magic under late capitalism, thought is assimilated to late capitalist forms. The asocial twilight phenomena in the margins of the system, the pathetic attempts to squint through the chinks in its walls, while revealing nothing of what is outside, illuminate all the more clearly the forces of decay within. The bent little fortune-tellers terrorizing their clients with crystal balls are toy models of the great ones who hold the fate of mankind in their hands. Just as hostile and conspiratorial as the obscurantists of psychic research is society itself. The hypnotic power exerted by things occult resembles totalitarian terror: in present-day processes the two are merged. The smiling of auguries is amplified to society's sardonic laughter at itself; gloating over the direct material exploitation of souls. The horoscope corresponds to the official directives to the nations, and number-mysticism is preparation for administrative statistics and cartel prices. Integration itself proves in the end to be an ideology for disintegration into power groups which exterminate each other. He who integrates is lost. IV. Occultism is a reflex-action to the subjectification of all meaning, the complement of reification. If; to the living, objective reality seems deaf as never before, they try to elicit meaning from it by saying abracadabra. Meaning is attributed indiscriminately to the next worst thing: the rationality of the real, no longer quite convincing, is replaced by hopping tables and rays from heaps of earth. The offal of the phenomenal world becomes, to sick consciousness, the mundus intelligibilis. It might almost be speculative truth, just as Kafka's Odradek might almost be an angel, and yet it is, in a positivity that excludes the medium of thought, only barbaric aberration alienated from itself, subjectivity mistaking itself for its object. The more consummate the inanity of what is fobbed off as "spirit" -- and in anything less spiritless the enlightened subject would at once recognize itself, -- the more the meaning detected there, which in fact is not there at all,
[CTRL] Adorno Habermas Left Fascism SDS PC
-Caveat Lector-
Some more on why it is bizarre to think the Frankfurt School "invented" PC.
Michael Pugliese
P.S. The German SDS was originally the student wing of the SPD,
http://www.google.com/search?q=Adorno+Habermas+Left+Fascism+SDS
http://www.google.com/search?hl=enlr=safe=offq=Adorno+Habermas+Left+Fasci
sm+btnG=Google+Search
http://www.linguafranca.com/9811/inside.html
Inside Publishing
CRITICAL THEORY AT THE BARRICADES
ON APRIL 22, 1969, SHORTLY AFTER BEGINNING a lecture in his course on
dialectical thought before an audience of nearly one thousand students at
the University of Frankfurt, the eminent Frankfurt School sociologist and
Marxist cultural critic Theodor W. Adorno found himself in an unusual
situation. A student in one of the back rows interrupted him, demanding that
he engage in "self-criticism." Another student silently walked up to the
blackboard and wrote the following words: "He who only allows dear Adorno to
rule will uphold capitalism his entire life." After Adorno told the class
that they would have five minutes to decide if his lecture should continue,
three female students dressed in leather jackets rushed the podium. They
showered him with roses and tulips, exposed their breasts, and tried
repeatedly to kiss him. Incensed and humiliated, Adorno stormed out of the
lecture hall.
This incident, which came to be known as the Busenaktion ("breast action"),
has never figured with much prominence in American studies of the Frankfurt
School. Americans are far more apt to think of the leading figures of
Critical TheoryAdorno, Max Horkheimer, Herbert Marcuse, and
otherslanguishing in exile in New York and southern California during the
Nazi period, or of the eclectic blend of Marxism, psychoanalysis, and
sociology that characterized their thought. Their work is famous for its
mandarinism, its abstraction, andespecially in the case of Adornoits
uncompromising commitment to the independence of critical thought and high
art. Yet in Germany, on the thirtieth anniversary of the student revolts of
1968, the Frankfurt School is also remembered for its vexed role in the
volatile, sometimes violent political upheavals of the 1960s.
The Busenaktion was just one of many confrontations between the increasingly
"praxis"-oriented German New Left and the theoreticians who had been its
mentors. The turbulent evolution of this relationship is the subject of
Wolfgang Kraushaars elaborate three-volume work, Frankfurter Schule und
Studentenbewegung: Von der Flaschenpost zum Molotowcocktail, 19461995 (The
Frankfurt School and the Student Movement: From the Message in the Bottle to
the Molotov Cocktail, 19461995), published in Germany this past spring by
Rogner Bernhard. A political scientist at Hamburgs Institute of Social
Research and a bona fide 68er, Kraushaar has produced a painstaking and
lavish collection. It consists of a meticulously detailed historical
overview, an extensive compendium of documents and photographs, and a
collection of retrospective essays with titles like "Dialogues on Theory and
Praxis" and "The Oedipal Complex of the 68ers."
The story that these volumes tell ends on a sorry note. Adorno and
Horkheimer, the grand old men of the German intellectual left, saw their
lectures heckled, their institute occupied, and their own students, notably
Adornos protg Hans-Jrgen Krahl, turn against them. In a moment of
despair during the student occupation of the institute in January 1969,
Adorno called the police. Students were outraged at his betrayal. "Adorno as
institution is dead," declared a flyer distributed by a radical group of
sociology students in April of that year.
"ADORNO AS INSTITUTION IS DEAD," DECLARED A FLYER DISTRIBUTED BY A RADICAL
GROUP OF SOCIOLOGY STUDENTS.
Adorno himself would survive just another few months. He died of a heart
attack in Switzerland on August 6, 1969, at the age of sixty-five. Six weeks
earlier, he had written to Marcuse of his "extreme depression" and of his
revulsion at the fascist overtones he sensed in the tactics and demands of t
he students.
Yet relations between leftist German students and their mentors had not
always been so antagonistic. Kraushaar begins in the late 1940s, when
Horkheimer and Adorno, the two central figures from the prewar incarnation
of the Frankfurt-based Institut fr Sozialforschung, returned to Germany
from their American exile. Their "critical sociology," which fused the
insights of Weber with those of Marx and Hegel, along with their trenchant
critique of fascism, attracted students looking for alternatives to the
positivism and conservatism that dominated German intellectual life.
When Horkheimer first returned to Germany, originally as a guest professor
at the University of Frankfurt in 1948 and then as the chair of sociology
and philosophy in 1949, his students received him warmly. From th
Re: [CTRL] Anyone Have Any Articles on the Federal Reserve?
-Caveat Lector- Eustace Mullins? PUH-LEEZE! Heard him interviewed by Christian Identity loon, Rev. Jim Wickstrom on the Posse Comitatus radio show back around fall of '99. Blathered on about thousands of Christian children being kidnapped by Jews here in the U.S. and killed after Satanic rituals like drinking their blood. Wanna read something factual on the Federal Reserve read, "Secrets of the Temple, " by William Greider, the writer for Rolling Stone that did the famous interview with David Stockman early in the Gippers first term in infamy. Michael Pugliese A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] School Shootings and White Denial
-Caveat Lector- School Shootings and White Denial Tim Wise, AlterNet March 6, 2001 I can think of no other way to say this, so here goes: white people need to pull our heads out of our collective ass. Two more white children are dead and thirteen are injured, and another "nice" community is scratching its blonde head, utterly perplexed at how a school shooting the likes of the one yesterday in Santee, California could happen. After all, as the Mayor of the town said in an interview with CNN: "We're a solid town, a good town, with good kids, a good church-going town an All-American town." Yeah, well maybe that's the problem. I said this after Columbine and no one listened so I'll say it again: white people live in an utter state of self-delusion. We think danger is black, brown and poor, and if we can just move far enough away from "those people" in the cities we'll be safe. If we can just find an "all-American" town, life will be better, because "things like this just don't happen here." Well bullshit on that. In case you hadn't noticed, "here" is about the only place these kinds of things do happen. Oh sure, there is plenty of violence in urban communities and schools. But mass murder; wholesale slaughter; take-a-gun-and-see-how-many-you can-kill kinda craziness seems made for those safe places: the white suburbs or rural communities. And yet once again, we hear the FBI insist there is no "profile" of a school shooter. Come again? White boy after white boy after white boy, with very few exceptions to that rule (and none in the mass shooting category), decides to use their classmates for target practice, and yet there is no profile? Imagine if all these killers had been black: would we still hesitate to put a racial face on the perpetrators? Doubtful. Indeed, if any black child in America -- especially in the mostly white suburbs of Littleton, or Santee -- were to openly discuss their plans to murder fellow students, as happened both at Columbine and now Santana High, you can bet your ass that somebody would have turned them in, and the cops would have beat a path to their doorstep. But when whites discuss their murderous intentions, our stereotypes of what danger looks like cause us to ignore it -- they're just "talking" and won't really do anything. How many kids have to die before we rethink that nonsense? How many dazed and confused parents, Mayors and Sheriffs do we have to listen to, describing how "normal" and safe their community is, and how they just can't understand what went wrong? http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=10560 - A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fritz Springmeier arrested
-Caveat Lector- http://au.egroups.com/message/ParanoidTimes/4413 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Contrails, or 'Trails-CON?
-Caveat Lector- http://worldzone.net/science/reality2u30/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Antipas Ministries...The American Empire and the U.S. System of Client States
-Caveat Lector- http://www.endtimesnetwork.com/oldnews/vol5no3.html A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] US Said To Export Torture Weapons
-Caveat Lector- US Said To Export Torture Weapons By Pauline Jelinek Associated Press Writer Monday, Feb. 26, 2001; 10:00 a.m. EST WASHINGTON Dozens of U.S. companies sell weapons and other equipment used overseas for torture, Amnesty International said Monday, calling for a ban on the sales. The items include high-tech electroshock weapons, leg irons and serrated thumb cuffs designed to tear flesh if a detainee tries to get free, said a report by the U.S. chapter of the London-based human rights group. "No U.S. company should profit from torture," said William F. Schulz, head of the chapter. "The global manufacture, marketing and export of the equipment for torture is a moneymaking business that turns a blind eye to the suffering it causes," said the report, "Stopping the Torture Trade." Although it is illegal to own some of the equipment in the United States, Amnesty International said the Commerce Department has granted export licenses for sales valued at $97 million since 1997 under the category of "crime control equipment." It said some 80 American companies were involved in the manufacture, marketing and export of the items. An analysis of Commerce data shows Saudi Arabia, Russia, Taiwan, Israel and Egypt as the major recipients of the U.S. equipment, Amnesty said. The report said the group has documented that torturers in those countries use such technology. The equipment could also be used for legitimate law enforcement reasons, including to restrain or subdue detainees. But Amnesty spokesman Alistair Hodgett said the group still believes some of them such as the flesh-tearing thumb cuffs and a belt that emits electric shocks are "inherently cruel" and their export thus should be banned outright. Other devices have not been tested for their medical effects, and their export should be suspended, he said. Amnesty released the study as the State Department was issuing its annual report on human rights around the world. "It is unconscionable that while the U.S. State Department promotes human rights, the U.S. Department of Commerce has approved export licenses to countries that our own government documents as committing torture," Schulz said in a statement. Hodgett said there are relatively few manufacturers of the equipment, but they sell to an increasing number of suppliers and marketers. "Once they roll off the production line there's no followup to show where these things end up," he said in an interview. "Despite improved government regulation of exports, weapons are being sold and resold into the hands of torturers," Schulz said. "In the absence of stringent worldwide controls to prevent this ..., export should be immediately halted," the Amnesty International report said. The report is part of a yearlong campaign by the human rights group to document torture around the world. It also has launched an Internet program in which supporters can send messages quickly to officials where torture is taking place and demand an immediate end to the abuse. On the Net: Amnesty International USA: www.amnestyusa.org A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Early Days of the John Birch Society: Fascist Templars of the Corporate State
-Caveat Lector- http://alexconstantine.50megs.com/the_early_days.html A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Crashing the Party: White Nationalists and the Reform Party
-Caveat Lector- http://www.newcomm.org/party/crashing_the_party.htm A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] American Friends of the BNP
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: American Friends of the BNP [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, February 11, 2001 8:44 PM Subject: AFBNP Update 02/12/2001 #3 To: Multiple recipients of the AFBNP Mailing List Send messages intended for posting to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with UNSUBSCRIBE AFBNP on a line by itself in the message body. To talk to a human, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] The American Friends of the BNP E-mail Update provides news and information to British National Party Supporters in America and around the world. To subscribe to the AFBNP-Update, send an email with "Subscribe AFBNP" in the subject line to [EMAIL PROTECTED] AMERICAN FRIENDS OF THE BNP UPDATE 12th FEBRUARY, 2001. NEXT MEETING SUNDAY FEBRUARY 18 1.00pm. 1). Our next event in Florida will be our Red, White and Blue dinner meeting in Port St. Lucie, on the treasure coast (about one hour north of West Palm Beach). If you wish to attend, please call either our national office (703) 820 3844 or our Florida office (561) 878 5567, for full details and directions to the venue. This is going to be a great event and you should make every effort to attend. Let your friends and family know, and bring them along too, everybody will be made most welcome. Please arrive anytime after 1pm. There will be complimentary drinks, literature and merchandise tables to look over, where you can buy a whole host of patriotic items, including books, magazines, CDs, Videos, T-shirts, flags, badges and much much more. The Dinner will start around 3pm. We are having the great British fish and chips, with Clam Chowder starter and ice cream for desert. There will also be a good selection of British beers (yes cold!) The Meeting will start around 5pm. We have a great line up of British and American speakers, including American Friends of the BNP chairman Mark Cotterill: The Rev. John Alder of the European-American Episcopal Church: A guest BNP speaker who is flying in all the way from England: Plus a number of local American Nationalists. The closing ceremony will start around 7pm. This is in memory of British and British-American martyrs, who died for the Nationalist cause. A free raffle will be held afterwards, with lots of great prizes, donated by the meeting sponsors. An informal social will end the proceedings at which members and supporters can socialize, meet the guest speakers and have a few more drinks until late in the evening. Hotel accommodation is within a couple of blocks of the meeting venue, for those of you who wish to stay over that night. Call our Florida office and they will book you a room. Even if you cannot attend this time, please let us know if you would like to be kept informed of future events in Florida and we will keep you on our mailing list for the next one. You can also help by sending us a donation towards the high costs of organizing this event. Every dollar counts, however large or small. So mark your calendar and come and have a great day, meeting other patriots on Sunday February 18. STOP PRESS: We will also be holding an outdoor demonstration in support of the Confederate Flag in the Port St.Lucie area on the morning of Saturday 17. If you live locally or will be in the area on Saturday please come along and lend us your support. Call (561) 878 5567 for full details on Friday. 2). There will be a house meeting for DC area members only, on Thursday 22 February, starting at 7.30pm in Falls Church. Please call (703) 820 3844 if you can attend. There will be a guest BNP speaker from England. 3). Our next full meeting in Arlington, Virginia will be in early March. Full details will be given in the next up date. Or check out our website at www.americabnp.net you can also e-mail us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] FREEDOM PARTY UPDATE 4). The new Freedom Party did not get off to a very good start. Their first meeting in their stronghold(?) of Tipton, in the West Midlands a couple of weekends ago, attracted a grand total of 35 Freedomers, including a couple of BNP members who went along to size up their strength (or lack of it). The whole affair was a farce as any gathering which includes the talented Bowden, Butler, Newland, Webster and the Edwards would be. Before the meeting ended, a number of their Birmingham people walked out (they have since rejoined the BNP). We will keep you posted in future Updates on their progress. The following is an interesting summery of the Freedom Party by BNP Chairman Nick Griffin. Projection thats the psychological term for when someone accuses someone else of doing something wrong because its they kind of thing they have done or want to do themselves. On the big historical scale, the way various Zionists always scream about other people having Master Race theories is a classic example. On the petty scale, we now have an example much closer to home. Most of you will know how Mr. Mrs.
[CTRL] 'Madame Butterfly' Theresa Le Pore
-Caveat Lector- The Wall Street Journal of December 1st, 2000 page one states: " 'Madame Butterfly' Theresa Le Pore wasn't always an embattled Palm Beach ballots chief. In the 1980s she moonlighted as a flight attendant on private planes owned by Saudi weapons dealer Adnan Khashoggi, a middleman in Reagan administration arms sales to Iran." Theresa Le Pore designed the infamous Butterfly Ballot in Palm Beach Florida. The Plot Thickens as they say, or does it, time will tell. Pamela Harriman was married to Randolph Churchill before she married Averell Harriman. Averell Harriman was the partner in Brown Brothers, Harriman, with Prescott Bush, the father of former President Bush, with George Herbert Walker, former President Bush's grandfather. The W in George W. Bush stands for Walker. Pamela's son was named after his grandfather, Winston Churchill. Pamela's son ,Winston's alleged former mistress was Soraya Khashoggi, who was the former wife of arms dealer Adnan Khashoggi. Small world isn't it. Khashoggi was also allegedly deeply involved with former President Bush in the Iran-Contra Affair. "The Churchill Society London ... Mr Churchill, whose former mistress Soraya Khashoggi, the former wife of arms dealer Adnan http://www.churchill-society-london.org.uk/wscminor.html "THE TIMES NEWSPAPER19th February 1997 By Andrew Pierce Tom Rhodes WINSTON CHURCHILL who spent most of his life living in the shadow of his glamorous mother Pamela Harriman, was left $10 million (6.2 million pounds) in her will it was disclosed yesterday." http://www.time.com/time/magazine/1997/dom/970915/princess.outside_lok in.html "OUTSIDE LOOKING IN ... to Saudi Arabia. The company took off, and not long after, al Fayed married Khashoggi's sister Samira, who gave birth to Dodi in 1955. He divorced her after" ... "Article24b.htm ... to prove, but Richard Taus, former FBI agent, states that Al Fayed and Khashoggi were connected to the Iran/Contra scandal through Castle Securities. Castle ..". http://paranoiamagazine.com/24Article2.htm "of Europe. Dodi Fayed, beloved of Lady Diana, is a cousin of Adnan Khashoggi, a CIA asset involved in sales of arms to Iran-he and Oliver North. Adnan"..We of course were told that Ms. Le Pore was a Democrat, but in the material below she is found speaking on Immigration sounding very anti-Immigrant to put it mildly. http://commdocs.house.gov/committees/judiciary/hju43144.000/hju43144_0 .HTM#155 "STATEMENT OF THERESA LE PORE, SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS, PALM BEACH COUNTY, FL" Bin Laden et.al. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/binladen/who/family.html " Today one of the biggest construction groups in the kingdom [of Saudi Arabia] and the Middle East, the "bin Laden empire-One of the connections which still explains many of the personal ties existing throughout the Middle East is the Victoria College in Alexandria, where the bin Laden boys attended classes along with schoolmates such as King Hussein of Jordan, Zaid Al Rifai, the Kashoggi brothers (whose father was one of the king's physicians), Kamal Adham (who ran the Saudi [security] services under King Faisal), present-day contractors Mohammed Al Attas, Fahd Shobokshi and Ghassan Sakr and actor Omar Sharif.King Fahd's two closest friends were: Prince Mohammed Ben Abdullah (son of Abdul Aziz' youngest brother), who died in the early '80s and whose brother, Khaled Ben Abdullah (an associate of Suleiman Olayan), still has free access to the king; and Salem bin Laden, who died in 1988. Like his father in 1968, Salem died in a 1988 air crash...in Texas. He was flying a BAC 1-11 which had been bought in July 1977 by Prince Mohammed Ben Fahd. The plane's flight plans had long been at the center of a number of investigations. According to one of the plane's American pilots, it had been used in October 1980 during secret Paris meetings between US and Iranian emissaries. Nothing was ever proven, but Salem bin Laden's accidental death revived some speculation that he might have been "eliminated" as an embarrassing witness. In fact, an inquiry was held to determine the exact circumstances of the accident. The conclusions were never divulged." http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/xfile10.html Excerpted from article below found at url above "October Surprise: Time for Truth? Part 2 By Robert Parry The diciest part of the October Surprise saga remains the allegations of secret Paris meetings between Republicans and Iranians in fall 1980. According to some of those alleging that the GOP sabotaged President Carter's pre-election hostage negotiations, the Paris meetings followed earlier contacts between William Casey and Iranians in Madrid; in effect, the Paris talks cemented the deal. But what has made the Paris allegations so controversial is the claim by some that George Bush, the Republican vice presidential candidate and former CIA director, slipped away on the weekend of Oct. 18-19, 1980, and flew to Paris to assure the Iranians of
[CTRL] Fw: [ashcroft-watch] More of the Dirty Dick et.al. Don't Miss A Trick Story
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, February 02, 2001 6:46 AM Subject: [ashcroft-watch] More of the Dirty Dick et.al. Don't Miss A Trick Story More of the Dirty Dick et.al. Don't Miss A Trick Story http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A39001-2000Dec21.html Ann Veneman, Bush choice for Agriculture Secretary, according to the article at the url above served on the board of Calgene, described in that article as "a biotechnology company working on genetically engineered foods" .http://www.ucsusa.org/Gene/F97.agribusiness.html "Calgene (is) now a subsidiary of Monsanto" http://www.monsanto.com/monsanto/media/00/00nov13_stock.html http://www.social-ecology.org/library/tokar/monsanto.html "In 1947, a rench freighter carrying ammonium nitrate fertilizer blew up at a dock 270 feet from Monsanto's plastics plant outside Galveston, Texas.More than 500 people died in what came to be seen as one of the chemical industry's first major disasters.- The herbicide "Agent Orange," which was used by U.S. military forces to defoliate the rainforest ecosystems of Vietnam during the 1960s was a mixture of 2,4,5-T and 2,4-D that was available from several sources, but Monsanto's Agent Orange had concentrations of dioxin many times higher than that produced by Dow Chemical, the defoliant's other leading manufacturer. This made Monsanto the key defendant in the lawsuit brought by Vietnam War veterans in the United States, who faced an array of debilitating symptoms attributable to Agent Orange exposure. When a $180 million settlement was reached in 1984 between seven chemical companies and the lawyers for the veterans, the judge ordered Monsanto to pay 45.5 percent of the total." http://www.monsanto.com/monsanto/about_us/company_timeline/index3.html "Through the Dayton Laboratories, Monsanto became involved in research on uranium for the Manhattan Project, which led to the first nuclear bombs. "Monsanto Company, an 85 percent owned subsidiary of Pharmacia Corporation." http://microrim.samovar.ru "On April 3, 2000, a new first-tier competitor in the global pharmaceutical industry was created. Pharmacia Corporation is the result of a merger between Pharmacia Upjohn and Monsanto Company. http://www.pharmacia.com http://www.pnu.com/ http://www.monsanto.co.uk/news/2000/january2000/27012000_monsanto.html "Pharmacia Upjohn's board of directors is comprised of Frank C. Carlucci (and others) http://www.nortelnetworks.com/corporate/news/newsreleases/1999b/4_29_9 999298_Carlucci_appt.html "Frank C. Carlucci Becomes Nortel Networks' New Chairman of the Board of Directors" "Carlucci of McLean, Virginia, a member of the Nortel Networks board of directors since 1989, currently serves as the chairman of the Carlyle Group, a Washington, D.C.-based merchant banking firm as well as chairman of the board and a director of Neurogen Corporation. Earlier, Carlucci enjoyed a long and distinguished career in the U.S. government. His periods of service which spanned both Democratic and Republican administrations, included appointments as Secretary of Defense from 1987 to 1989, National Security Advisor to President Reagan in 1987, Ambassador to Portugal, Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs, Deputy Secretary of Defense, Deputy Director of Central Intelligence, and Deputy Director of the Office of Management and Budget." http://www.njdc.org/readNews.php3?show=67dept=4 "Cheney agreed with his predecessor, Frank Carlucci, that congressional opposition to US arms sales to friendly Arab states has hurt American interests in the region. 'I think the United States does have a role to play in the area that does involve providing our Arab friends with the equipment they need in order to provide for their defense,' Cheney said." http://www.defenselink.mil/specials/secdef_histories/bios/cheney.htm "Richard B. Cheney March 21, 1989- January 20, 1993 17th Secretary of Defense Bush Administration President George Bush initially chose former Texas Sen. John G. Tower to be his secretary of defense. When the Senate in March 1989 rejected his nomination, Bush selected Rep. Richard B. (Dick) Cheney of Wyoming. Cheney, born in Lincoln,Nebraska, on 30 January 1941, attended Yale University- For chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff he selected General Colin L. Powell, who assumed the post on 1 October 1989.- Cheney and Secretary of State Baker were old friends - Panama, controlled by General Manuel Antonio Noriega, the head of the country's military, against whom a U.S. grand jury had entered an indictment for drug trafficking in February 1988, held Cheney's attention almost from the time he took office." http://www.njdc.org/readNews.php3?show=67dept=4 "DICK CHENEY'S OWN WORDS AND ACTIONS 1.In Congress, Cheney was a leader of the forces pushing for a constitutional school prayer amendment, working as Chairman of the House Republican
Re: [CTRL] U.S. forces in Germany and Italy on alert
-Caveat Lector- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 23:34:52 +0100 From: "Mario Profaca" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FW: RE: U.S. forces in Germany and Italy on alert -Original Message- From: International Justice Watch Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jeremy Douglas Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 9:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: U.S. forces in Germany and Italy on alert I don't really think this is going to lead anywhere. The DoD is saying this is a normal exercise but who knows. I do know that every time we even sneeze in the mideast, journalists start writing that we are preparing for something. The last time was in November when the AF went through a routine rotation. For 2 or 3 days we had several thousand Air Force personnel coming home and several thousand taking their place in the mideast. It was reported all over the press that the Air Force had doubled their manpower in the region with hints that something was about to happen. (Something did happen, half of them came home a couple days later). If this was a sign of something I wouldn't expect the Patriot battery to be shipped via sea, I would expect it to be shipped overnight by air (UPS or Fed-Ex maybe?) :) But aside from that I'm skeptical of Iraq's ability to field several divisions even in a peacetime deployment and especially in a long range manuever through Syria to attack Israel. Although their military industry, which I believe is underrated, could probably sustain a short engagement, I just don't think they have the maintainance ability, spares, or training for a long range engagement. I think they could make a sucessful attack on a selected target or city, and they very well might, but a real battle (or war) wouldn't be sustainable. Plus they would be overextended, already having (or had, that's probably where the troops on the Syrian border came from) 16 of their best divisions and most of their tanks deployed against the Kurds in the north and 6 divisions in the south and east to counter Shia (that probably should be spelled Shian?) rebels. That doesn't leave much but a couple Republican Guard divisions which are usually employed in defensive and early warning positions around Bagdad, keeping Saddam in power and satisfying his paranoia. A recent informal truce with the Kurds leaves his northern flank somewhat secure but that probably won't last very long, it never does. But after 10 years of twiddling their thumbs you never know. Iraq sure loves to get involved with the neighbors and there's a lot of dislike for Israel in Iraq and a lot of trigger fingers that haven't been scratched in a long time, at least outside the country. Another journalistic error, and I do love pointing those out, Threatcon Alpha is lower than Bravo. This article is wrong but The San Antonio Express-News did correctly report that the Threatcon had been raised from Alpha to Bravo instead of vice-versa. Dr Peter Hall wrote: It seems to be hotting up Pentagon sources said the heightened tension in the Middle East prompted a decision to place on alert U.S. forces in Germany and Italy. They said Washington has been concerned about an Iraqi attack on Israel amid reports that several Iraqi divisions have moved close to the Syrian border. Peter Hall U.S. FORCES PLACED ON ALERT PATRIOT ANTI-MISSILE BATTERY DEPLOYED TO ISRAEL Washington - Middle East Newsline - Friday, January 26:The United States has sent a Patriot anti-missile defense battery to Israel amid heightened concerns of a Middle East war. Pentagon sources said the heightened tension in the Middle East prompted a decision to place on alert U.S. forces in Germany and Italy. They said Washington hasbeen concerned about an Iraqi attack on Israel amid reports that several Iraqidivisions have moved close to the Syrian border. The San Antonio Express-News published a copy of a U.S. military order that on Jan. 11 raised the alert status of U.S. forces from Threatcon Bravo to Alpha. Alpha is a heightened alert of a terrorist attack. "Recent intelligence indicates that an increased or more predictable threat exists, thus warranting the Threatcon change," the U.S. military order read. Pentagon officials said the Patriot missile brigade will participate in an exercise in Israel scheduled for Feb. 8. The exercise will last 15 days. The exercise, called "Juniper Cobra," will include about 400 members of the 69th Air Defense Artillery Brigade based near Frankfurt, Germany. A Patriot missile battery and personnel are expected to arrive by ship on Feb. 4 and join Patriot batteries already deployed in the Jewish state. "It is a training event to sustain interoperability between the U.S. Army and the Israeli defense forces," U.S. Army spokesman Maj. Tom Collins said. In December, Lockheed Martin was awarded a $212 million contract to produce an upgraded Patriot. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER
Re: [CTRL] Fw: NBC's Mitchell Disputes Charge That Bushies Also TrashedWhite House
-Caveat Lector- She married Alan Greenspan a few years ago. Wadda expect? Michael Pugliese -Original Message- From: Arthur Hickman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, January 28, 2001 12:57 PM Subject: [CTRL] Fw: NBC's Mitchell Disputes Charge That Bushies Also TrashedWhite House -Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Reagan D. Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WorldNetDaily [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, January 28, 2001 2:07 AM Subject: WND: NBC's Mitchell Disputes Charge That Bushies Also Trashed White House A top Democrat's charge that aides to former president George Bush trashed the White House before leaving in 1993, much the same way Clinton administration staff did last Saturday, was contradicted Friday morning by NBC reporter Andrea Mitchell. "I covered the Clintons coming in," Mitchell told radioman Don Imus. "There was a lot of bitterness because the hard drives were missing from some of the computers." On Thursday, ranking Senate Judiciary Committee Democrat Pat Leahy alleged that aides to Bush Sr. "changed a number of the computers around so that it would take them a long time to have them reconfigured." ( "I think it was wrong when the Bush people did it," added Leahy. "I think it's wrong when the Clinton people did it." But Mitchell went on to dispel any notion that former Bush aides had deliberately tampered with White House computers to sabotage the incoming Clinton administration. "It turned out that the missing hard drives were taken by special prosecutors who were looking into a Bush campaign, a Bush White House issue," Mitchell told Imus. In contrast, the NBC newswoman said that White House trashing by Clinton aides was "apparently widespread." "You know, pranks and stuff, but also some stuff that was quite vicious," Mitchell said. Clinton aides reportedly cut several computer cables and phone lines, overturned furniture and sprayed hallways with graffiti. Leahy also alleged that aides to Bush Sr. had "laminated" his photo to a number of White House chairs. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-~ eGroups is now Yahoo! Groups Click here for more details http://click.egroups.com/1/11231/1/_/_/_/980665645/ -_- visit and read WorldNetDaily at http://www.WND.com/ Get the list owner at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe if you want to, or must at [EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A ==
[CTRL] Fw: How Ashcroft Poisoned his Son's Mind
-Caveat Lector- http://www.democrats.com/view.cfm?id=1107 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda canard
-Caveat Lector- http://128.242.205.65/inboxer/outrage/fonda.htm Hanoi'd with Jane Claim: After a 1972 trip to North Vietnam, Jane Fonda declared that American POWs were being treated humanely and later denounced them as liars for claiming they had been tortured. Status: True. Example: [Collected on the Internet, 1999] When I was at Camp Pendleton receiving combat corpsman training, I noticed that the pickup truck belonging to the gunnery sergeant in charge of our training was adorned with bumper stickers containing extremely unflattering remarks about Jane Fonda. I also noticed a few referred to Ms. Fonda and Vietnam, but at the time I honestly had no idea why. Being an E-5 and close to rank to our E-7 gunny, after a training rotation one afternoon I decided to ask him about those stickers, and what they had to do with Fonda. He muttered a few obscenities and proceeded to tell me the story. Fonda, he said, became a traitor during the Vietnam War -- a war in which "gunny" had served two tours and for which he had received three Purple Hearts (which is why he enjoyed training Navy corpsmen to be Marine Corps combat corpsmen -- they'd saved his life a time or two). The following excerpts are not "gunny's" words, but when received them in an e-mail recently, it reminded me of his story. And, as ABC's Barbara Walters prepares to honor the traitorous Jane Fonda during Walters' "100 years of great women" program soon, I thought the American people needed to hear this story again. You see, Fonda isn't just exercise videos and the third wheel in "Nine to Five" (the movie). * * * * * * * "There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Jane Fonda's participation in what I believe to be blatant treason, is one of them. Part of my conviction comes from exposure to those who suffered her attentions. "In 1978, the Commandant of the USAF Survival School, a colonel, was a former POW in Ho Lo Prison -- the Hanoi Hilton. Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American 'Peace Activist' the 'lenient and humane treatment' he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, accidentally pulling the man's shoe off -- which sent that officer berserk. "In '78, the AF colonel still suffered from double vision -- permanently grounding him -- from the Vietnamese officer's frenzied application of a wooden baton. "From 1983-85, Col. Larry Carrigan was 347FW/DO (F-4Es). He'd spent 6 [product] years in the Hilton -- the first three of which he was listed as MIA. His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a 'peace delegation' visit. "They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his Social Security number on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like, 'Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?' and, 'Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?'" "Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge ... and handed him the little pile of notes. "Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four. "For years after their release, a group of determined former POWs, including Col. Carrigan, tried to bring Ms. Fonda and others up on charges of treason. I don't know that they used it, but the charge of 'Negligent Homicide due to Depraved Indifference' would also seem appropriate. Her obvious 'granting of aid and comfort to the enemy' alone should've been sufficient for the treason count. However, to date, Jane Fonda has never been formally charged with anything and continues to enjoy the privileged life of the rich and famous. "I, personally, think that this is shame on us, the American Citizenry. "Part of our shortfall is ignorance: Most don't know such actions ever took place. "The only addition I might add to these sentiments is to remember the satisfaction of relieving myself into the urinal at some air base or another where 'zaps' of Hanoi Jane's face had been applied." And there is this account: "I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a 'black box' in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban
[CTRL] Common Law Courts in the United States
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ncsc.dni.us/is/MEMOS/Archives/S96-0472.HTM MEMORANDUM Ref. No. IS 96.0472 March 20, 1996 (revised April 30, 1996) By: Gerald M. Nagle Re: Common Law Courts in the United States The Information Service was asked to provide information on the growth of the Common Law Court (CLC) movement in the United States. The following is a discussion of the history, philosophy, practices, activities in the states, and responses by state officials to this growing movement. The Common Law Court movement is a grass roots movement comprised of individuals who seek an alternative venue for gaining redress for grievances against the federal and state government and against individuals. Adherents view the CLCs as the only legal court of justice recognized by their interpretation of the U.S. Constitution and other legal documents such as the Uniform Commercial Code and the Magna Carta. The Courts are established on general principles and questionable interpretations of the common law with the premise that the United States and the state governments have become tyrannies that usurp constitutionally guaranteed freedoms of citizens. Central to the philosophy of the CLC movement is the notion that citizens embracing the common law doctrine as sovereign "free men" are emancipated from the responsibilities that U. S. citizenship entails. The primary goal of the CLC movement is "to restore a constitution for the United States by identifying and removing from office those delinquent perverts who would undermine the Constitution." Another is to reform federal court proceedings by arguing and defending themselves without lawyers. In furthering these goals, proponents of the CLC movement have established more than 100 common law courts in at least twenty states; the number of CLCs continues growing rapidly throughout the nation. As the movement provides an increasingly popular venue for disillusioned and disaffected citizens to seek justice for the wrongs they feel the government, businesses, and private citizens have committed, the threat of social and political upheaval and physical violence must be taken seriously. Already, scores of judges, prosecutors, and government officials have been harassed by CLC adherents filing liens and involuntary bankruptcies against them and have been subjected to threats of physical harm. Many have been sentenced to death by CLC juries. HISTORY OF THE CLC MOVEMENT With roots going back to the posse comitatus movement of the 1970s, the CLC movement has ties to the militia and "free men" movements, according to Morris Dees of the Southern Poverty Law Center. The movement seems to have originated in the heartland of America, where economic hardship in the agricultural communities has created a fertile ground for anti-government factions extolling the virtues of a new justice system based on conservative Christian ideology and white supremacy dogma, known collectively as the Christian Identity movement. The movement has a strong attraction to individuals who have run into tax problems or lost their farms and possessions to loan foreclosures or who simply refuse to recognize the authority of a judicial system they believe is corrupt and unfair. The CLC movement is controlled by individuals who, among other motivations, perceive that women and minorities have gained too much power. Not surprisingly, the movement has, at the very least, loose ties to white nationalist and white supremacist movements; many involved in the CLCs hold active memberships in state militias organized as paramilitary groups advocating the overthrow of the present government and the establishment of a new form of government based on the laws of God and their own interpretation of the Constitution. While CLC followers tend to limit their activism to campaigns of paper terrorism and veiled threats, in one instance in early 1994, a court clerk in California was attacked and severely beaten by a thug hired by a group of tax evaders with ties to the common law movement after she refused to file common law liens against court officials. In Ohio, where CLCs are operating in 66 of the states 88 counties, Chief Justice Moyer of the Ohio Supreme Court has taken a pro-active stand in addressing the movement and has attempted to educate and warn the state court judges and court officials about the movement. He went so far as to meet with members of the so-called "Our One Supreme Court" to learn more about their ideology and goals. PHILOSOPHY The philosophical underpinning of the CLC movement begins with the premise that the American judicial system is a failure, according to Larry Russell, a CLC activist in Montana, who argues that many laws "dont serve the
[CTRL] Conservative Funders
-Caveat Lector- http://www.mediatransparency.org/funders.asp A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Strategic Philanthropy of Conservative Foundations
-Caveat Lector- http://www.mediatransparency.org/movement.asp A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Excerpts from Religion and the Racist Right - The Origins of the Christian Identity Movement
-Caveat Lector- http://www.techfak.uni-bielefeld.de/techfak/ags/ti/personen/mfreeric/m/revie ws/christian-identity.html A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] A debate with Antony Sutton
-Caveat Lector- http://www.floodlight.org/theory/sutton.html A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Conspiracy Theory Index
-Caveat Lector- http://www.floodlight.org/theory/contents.html A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: [FAIR-L] MEDIA ADVISORY: Southern Partisan:Setting the Record Straight
-Caveat Lector-
-Original Message-
From: FAIR-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, January 12, 2001 10:57 AM
Subject: [FAIR-L] MEDIA ADVISORY: Southern Partisan:"Setting the Record
Straight"
FAIR-L
Fairness Accuracy in Reporting
Media analysis, critiques and news reports
MEDIA ADVISORY:
Southern Partisan: "Setting the Record Straight"
Attorney general nominee praised white supremacist magazine
January 12, 2001
"Your magazine also helps set the record straight. You've got a heritage of
doing that, of defending Southern patriots like [Gen.] Robert E. Lee,
[Gen.]
Stonewall Jackson and [Confederate President] Jefferson Davis.
Traditionalists must do more. I've got to do more. We've all got to stand
up
and speak in this respect, or else we'll be taught that these people were
giving their lives, subscribing their sacred fortunes and their honor to
some perverted agenda."
--John Ashcroft, Southern Partisan magazine interview (Second Quarter/1998)
When Attorney General nominee John Ashcroft praised the neo-Confederate
magazine Southern Partisan, he was endorsing a publication that defends
slavery, white separatism, apartheid and David Duke; a publication that
celebrates the assassination of Abraham Lincoln, while delivering a "mixed
review" of Lincoln's assassin (Southern Partisan, Second Quarter/1990).
Though Southern Partisan is the leading magazine of the neo-Confederate
movement, it really is much more than a "gumbo of racist apologias," as the
New Republic put it last year (1/31/00). Southern Partisan's bigotry
targets virtually anyone who isn't a straight white male neo-Confederate.
Southern Partisan practices equal-opportunity bigotry. Here's a sample of
opinion from the magazine John Ashcroft says "set[s] the record straight":
On Slavery
"Neither Jesus nor the apostles nor the early church condemned slavery,
despite countless opportunities to do so, and there is no indication that
slavery is contrary to Christian ethics or that any serious theologian
before modern times ever thought it was."
--Samuel Francis, Southern Partisan, Third Quarter/1995
"Slave owners . . . did not have a practice of breaking up slave families.
If anything, they encouraged strong slave families to further the slaves'
peace and happiness."
--First Quarter/1996
On Lincoln
Abraham Lincoln is a "consummate conniver, manipulator and a liar."
--Southern Partisan cited in Legal Times, 2/26/1996
The Spring 1984 issue refers to "the sinister Emancipation Proclamation of
President Lincoln--an invitation to the slaves to rise against their
masters."
On John Wilkes Booth: "His behavior was not only sane, but sensible. His
background, loyalties, beliefs, and experiences had led him to that end."
--Mark Brewer, Second Quarter/1990
For years Southern Partisan has celebrated the murder of Abraham Lincoln by
selling T-shirts with Lincoln's image over the words "sic semper tyrannis"
("thus always to tyrants")-- John Wilkes Booth's cry just after shooting
Lincoln. Timothy McVeigh was wearing this T-shirt when he was arrested for
the Oklahoma City bombing.
--New York Times, 6/3/1997
On the Klan
The Ku Klux Klan's first Grand Wizard, Civil War Gen. Nathan Bedford
Forrest, cited as evidence that "the Confederacy was full of super heroes."
--Fourth Quarter/1996
Praised former KKK Grand Wizard David Duke as "a candidate concerned about
'affirmative' discrimination, welfare profligacy, the taxation holocaust
...
a Populist spokesperson for a recapturing of the American ideal."
--Fourth Quarter/1990
On South African History
"God led [Afrikaners] into the Transvaal, it was with God that they made
their prayerful covenant when they were besieged by bloodthirsty savages on
all sides."
--Fall/1986-Winter/1987
On Feminism
Feminism is a "revolt against god."
--First Quarter/2000
"Feminists, ethnic minorities, sodomites and other 'victims' of majority
culture are demanding special recognition and privileged status."
--Second Quarter/1992
On Homosexuality
The University of Georgia "promotes perversion" by sponsoring programs for
Gay men and Lesbians. Same-sex marriage is a "vile act of blasphemy."
--First Quarter/1997
"The acts of sodomy are probably the most repulsive desecrations in the
sexual order The terrible swift sword of the dread AIDS disease is
surely what in other ages would be acknowledged a sign of God's wrath. It
is
only the least subtle notice of divine displeasure with the swinishness of
our age."
--Reid Buckley, Winter/1986
On Everyone but "Us"
"Newly arrived in New York City, I puzzled, 'Where are the Americans?' for
I
met only Italians, Jews, Puerto Ricans."
--Patrick Brophy, Second Quarter/1991
"What Southerner feels at home in Miami these days, a city 56 percent
Spanish-speaking that includes not only Cubans but numbers of
cocaine-pushing trigger-happy Colombians?"
--Allan
[CTRL] IHR: A Layman's Guide to Willis Carto The Institute for Historical Review
-Caveat Lector- http://melanoma.cs.rmit.edu.au/etext/Documents/Holocaust/Inst.Historical.Rev iew A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
