Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Thurn und Taxis:
-Caveat Lector- See Pynchon's *The Crying of Lot 49* for more on the house and involvements of Thurn und Taxis. - Original Message - From: "Kris Millegan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 9:06 PM Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: Thurn und Taxis: A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] UN Troops Training at Fort Polk, LA
-Caveat Lector- So what? This is hardly new information. The U.S. has been training foreign military personnel at stateside bases for more than fifty years. This particular operation, IIRC, was widely trumpeted by the Pentagon as an example of the military cooperation between NATO and the new nations emerging out of the collapsed Soviet Union. In any event, the pictures are so amateurish that they provide zero information...no unit insignia are visible, for example. We have no proof, in fact, that these "soldiers" are anything but Americans dressed up in camouflage fatigues with national I.D. patches from assorted countries, all of which you can buy at your local Army-Navy store or on the Internet. If you're trying to provide "proof" that the U.N. is planning a military takeover of the United States, well, this ain't it. - Original Message - From: "Bill Richer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 7:15 AM Subject: [CTRL] UN Troops Training at Fort Polk, LA snip A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Wargames: Air Force Space Command's Battle Plans
long play," Hegstrom said that 'gold nuggets'-major lessons learned from the exercise- will be passed up the chain of command for consideration. "The Air Force will be addressing long range issues, such as denial of access to space, terrorist attacks on space installations, and jamming of space communications," Hegstrom suggested, so that programs can be developed now to counter any potential future threat. And the final space of the U.S. space program after the crisis? How will it evolve in the game? "This is a free-play wargame," he said. "Anything can happen when a world crisis arises." In Part Two: How the Battlelabs are training new spacers Robert F. Tatman Adaptive Web Design and Consulting Services *Building the Accessible Web for the 21st Century* Jenkintown, PA, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tatmangroup.net A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Wargames Part 2: Supporting rhe Warfighter from Above
ts space battlelab. And while the Navy doesn't have one as yet, its Project TENCAP (Tactical Exploitation of National Capabilities), along with the Navy Research Lab and Center for Space Technology are looking toward space systems that can be adapted for the Navy's unique needs. The new emphasis on space is all part of a changing military, new strategies and the evolution of war. The U.S. military force in the early 21st century that takes advantage of the nation's explosive technological advances to enhance its weapons systems will be shaped by the contingencies of future wars. = Robert F. Tatman Adaptive Web Design and Consulting Services *Building the Accessible Web for the 21st Century* Jenkintown, PA, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tatmangroup.net A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] TEST--PLEASE IGNORE!!!
-Caveat Lector- Test test test A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Debate the Constitution
-Caveat Lector- Hogwash. Bush and the reactionaries want to enshrine the Constitution, to cast it in stone, to worship it as Holy Writ. The problem with that is that it was never intended to be seen that way. Gore is exactly correct. The Constitution is *designed* to be changed as times change. The original document was perfect...for 1787. But more than two centuries have passed since then. "No one puts new wine in old wineskins." Think back to your sixth grade civics class: the metaphor those horrible civics textbooks always used was that of a tree in a storm--if the tree is stiff and rigid, when the wind hits the tree falls down, but if it's supple and flexible, when the wind hits the tree bends and survives. Bush and the rest of the Reaganite reactionaries want essentially to repeal the last 125 years of constitutional law. If attitude to the Constitution is the most important criterion for judging a presidential candidate, Gore is the one who passes, and Bush flunks ignominiously. Bob - Original Message - From: "Kathleen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 2:11 PM Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: Debate the Constitution snip IOW: Bush intends to uphold the Constitution, Gore intends to change it. My opinion? It's a no- brainer. "The Constitution wasn't perfect, but it's better than what we have now..." and if we hang onto it for four or eight more years that at least buys us some time to try to turn our country around. snip A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: Walden Bello on deglobalization
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "Soren" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 10:45 AM Subject: (50 Years) Walden Bello on deglobalization The following article is longer than those we usually send out on this listserv, but its significance, we believe, merits your attention. It is written by Walden Bello of Focus on the Global South (Thailand) and the University of the Philippines, and also a member of the 50 Years Is Enough Network's South Council. Its conclusion, in particular, begins the necessary process of constructing an answer to "what kind of world do we envision?" FROM MELBOURNE TO PRAGUE: THE STRUGGLE FOR A DEGLOBALIZED WORLD by: Walden Bello TNI Fellow Talk delivered at a series of engagements on the occasion of demonstrations against the World Economic Forum (Davos) in Melbourne, Australia, 6-10 September 2000 _ Walden Bello stated. We are, here in Melbourne in the next few days and in Prague in two weeks' time, participating in an historic enterprise: that of creating a critical mass to turn the tide against corporate-driven globalization. For years, we were told that globalization was benign, that it was a process that brought about the greatest good for the greatest number, that good citizenship lay in accepting the impersonal rule of the market and good governance meant governments getting out of the way of market forces and letting the most effective incarnation of market freedom, the transnational corporation, go about its task of bringing about the most efficient mix of capital, land, technology and labor. The unrestricted flow of goods and capital in a world without borders was said to be the best of all possible worlds, though when some observers pointed out that to be consistent with the precepts of their 18th century prophet, Adam Smith, proponents of the neoliberal doctrine would also have to allow the unrestricted flow of labor to create this best of all possible worlds, they were, quite simply, ignored. Such inconsistencies could be overlooked since for over two decades, neoliberalism or, as it was grandiosely styled, the 'Washington Consensus' had carried all before it. As one of its key partisans has nostalgically remarked recently, 'the Washington Consensus seemed to gain near-universal approval and provided a guiding ideology and underlying intellectual consensus for the world economy, which was quite new in modern history.' (1) GLOBALIZATION UNRAVELS I: The Asian Financial Collapse The unrestricted flow of speculative capital in accordance with Washington Consensus doctrine was what our governments in East Asia institutionalized in the early 1990s, under the strong urging of the International Monetary Fund and the US Treasury Department. The result: the $100 billion that flowed in between 1993 and 1997 flowed out in the bat of an eyelash during the Great Panic of the summer of 1997, bringing about the collapse of our economies and spinning them into a mire of recession and massive unemployment from which most still have to recover. Since 1997, financial instability or the constant erosion of our currencies has become a way of life under IMF- imposed monetary regimes that leave the value of our money to be determined day-to-day by the changing whims, moods, and preferences of foreign investors and currency speculators. GLOBALIZATION UNRAVELS II: The Failure of Structural Adjustment The Asian financial crisis put the International Monetary Fund on the hotseat, leading to a widespread popular reappraisal of its role in the Third World in the 1980s and early 1990s, when structural adjustment programs were imposed on over 70 developing countries. After over 15 years, there were hardly any cases of successful adjustment programs. What structural adjustment had done, instead, was to institutionalize stagnation in Africa and Latin America, alongside rises in the levels of absolute poverty and income inequality. Structural adjustment and related free-market policies that were imposed beginning in the early 1980s were the central factor that triggered a sharp rise in inequality globally, with one authoritative UNCTAD study covering 124 countries showing that the income share of the richest 20 per cent of the worlds population rose from 69 to 83 per cent between 1965 and 1990. (2) Adjustment policies were a central factor behind the rapid concentration of global income in recent years - a process which, in 1998, saw Bill Gates, with a net worth of $90 billion, Warren Buffet, with $36 billion, and Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen, with $30 billion, achieve a combined income that was greater than the total combined income of the 600 million that live in the worlds 48 least developed countries, a great number of which had been subjected to adjustment programs.
Re: [CTRL] Fw: alleged oil shortage---aint funny (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- This particular item (that none of the Alaskan crude goes to the continental U.S.) was widely reported when the Alaska pipeline came on line. The ostensible rationale was that it was cheaper to ship the petroleum directly to Japan from Alaska than to ship it to West Coast refineries for U.S. consumption--nothing was ever said at the time, IIRC, about sulfur content. (In fact, Alaska *is* closer to the northern Japanese islands than it is to California, so this argument makes a certain kind of sense.) There was a direct tradeoff, sending the Alaska crude to Asia and increasing U.S. reliance on *Nigerian* crude. I do not believe that there was any change in oil imports from the Middle East, but then all of this was taking place in the aftermath of the Arab oil boycott. BTW, if the Alaska crude has too high a sulfur content to be used in this country, why the hell is G.W. Bush so keen on opening up the ANWR to drilling? Whom does he intend to benefit by the added production? (And yes, that's a rhetorical question...) Bob - Original Message - From: "MICHAEL SPITZER" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 10:20 PM Subject: [CTRL] Fw: alleged oil shortage---aint funny (fwd) -Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "Amelia" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "MICHAEL SPITZER" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 7:28 PM Subject: Re: alleged oil shortage---aint funny snip NONE of our Alaska oil is used for domestic consumption. Every single drop of it is exported, mainly to Japan. The alleged reason for this is due to the fact that the EPA has declared that the Alaskan oil has too high a sulphur content for domestic use (acetic). snip A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hawking says greenhouse effect threatens human race survival
-Caveat Lector- What gets bizarre in the discussion of interplanetary or even interstellar colonization is the argument that the colonists need not be *physically* human. Wheeler and Tipler, in *The Anthropic Cosmological Principle* (1987), and Tipler, in *The Physics of Immortality* (1994), argue that intelligent, self-replicating robots--"von Neumann machines"--could undertake the exploration and colonization of the universe on humanity's behalf. These scientists believe that the combination of intelligence and self-replication would qualify such robots as "life" in a cosmic sense, and that the fact that their original construction and programming was performed by human beings would permit the robots to be considered "human." Thus "human" colonization of the universe could be accomplished by beings very few of us would recognize as members of the same "human race." With regard to global warming, see Ben Bova's recent novel *Venus*, which draws on current planetological research to suggest that Venus's surface conditions are *not* the result of a greenhouse effect, and that the Venusian experience cannot be used to predict the course of events on Earth. Bova argues, cogently, that global warming on this planet is produced purely by human technology, *and that human technology can and must reverse it.* (This book is, by the way, one of the most gripping SF-adventure novels I've read in quite a while.) Bob - Original Message - From: "Prudence L. Kuhn" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Hawking says greenhouse effect threatens human race survival -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/01/2000 5:30:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To ensure the survival of humans, he adds, efforts must be made to colonize other planets. Space travel would not solve every problem, but at least it would ensure that people don't become extinct. My what a tragedy that would be. We contribute so much to the universe. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Evolutionary right of first night
-Caveat Lector- Actually, I believe that the chimpanzee (Pan pan) is slightly closer to Homo sapiens genetically than the bonobo; IIRC, the current thinking is that the chimp and the ancestral hominid diverged from the common ancestor at roughly the same time, then the bonobo split off from the chimpanzee line. The difference, however, is slight. All of this doesn't invalidate Nessie's point, of course; the fascinating way bonobos use sex--with everyone and everything--raises some very serious questions about just how our hominid ancestors actually did behave, and just what is "natural" and "unnatural" sexual behavior for us...if there *is* such a thing as "unnatural" sexual conduct. The bonobos certainly make a very strong case for the proposition that, sexually, anything at all is natural. I sometimes wonder how differently anthropology might have evolved if European scientists had discovered the bonobo before they investigated the social behavior of the chimpanzee and the baboon, and had decided that "Early Man" had been a lover, not a fighter... Bob - Original Message - From: "nessie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Then there's our nearest living relatives, the bonobo: http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Vines/4451/bonobos.html A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] 'Right of first night'
-Caveat Lector- Kelly, to the best of my knowledge, this "first night" custom was a survival from the medieval *jus primae noctis* [apologies if my Latin is bad] or "law of the first night," under which the seigneur of the manor (usually a baron in England) had the right to insist on sleeping with each bride on the first night after her marriage. The assumption has always been that this also entailed deflowering the (presumably) virgin bride, although that was probably not always the case, especially when the seigneur was, shall we say, beyond the "virile years." Beyond the medieval custom, which obtained universally wherever feudalism held sway, I have no idea where it could have originated. The purpose was obviously two-fold: first, to establish the seigneur as alpha male--"top dog in the pack;" and second, to ensure a plentiful supply of bastards to act as reliable officers for the seigneur without the temptations of money and power always present for legitimate heirs. You can check any good social history of the Middle Ages to confirm what I've written. Bob - Original Message - From: "Kelly" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 7:46 PM Subject: [CTRL] 'Right of first night' snip I've heard of the 'right of the first night' in association with the British land owners in Ireland and also in association with slave owners in the US south. Does anyone know where this 'tradition' started (probably in the first cave inhabited by humans) or have any information or studies related to this so-called 'right'? snip A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: Dick Cheney resigns???
-Caveat Lector- FWIW... And of course, caveat lector. - Original Message - From: "Joan Norman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 2:57 PM Subject: [July30] Dick Cheney resigns??? July 30 in Philly - www.unity2000.com Hi We've all been waiting breathlessly for the usual October Surprise that the Republicans are famous for, two weeks before a Presidential election. I've received several emails to the effect that this year's October Surprise is going to happen on October 15!!! Dick Cheney's "history" is no longer going to be a liability to the ticket...because he is going to resign ...with a trumped up "threat to his health" or a "dire heart problem" that will take him out of the race!! Colin Powell or John McCain is going to rush in a "save the ticket"!! Evidently, this has been in the works since the high oil prices began to get our attention. Two oil barons on one ticket didn't look so cool. Do you have any information on this latest rumor?? Joan Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ To unsubscribe, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Start Your Own FREE Email List at http://www.listbot.com/links/joinlb A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: DiCaprio Lookalike Aliens
-Caveat Lector- This sounds like a recap of the old stories of succubi and incubi, done up in a 21st-century "skin." And if you believe that story, I've got a *lovely* bridge I'd like you to take a look at, guaranteed 24-carat gold, one owner... - Original Message - From: "Kris Millegan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 12:00 AM Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: DiCaprio Lookalike "Aliens" A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Carnage in the Aqsa Mosque (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- My strong suspicion is that Sharon made his little visit to the Temple Mount (Haram as-Sharif) hoping that it would provoke some of his loonier followers to blow up the offending mosques and open the way for the Fourth Temple to be constructed there. I hope to God (and I mean that VERY literally) that this does not happen...but I am very much afraid that someone is going to try it. And THAT would throw a lighted match into an exceedingly volatile powderkeg. If you doubt me, check the CTRL archives under the keywords "Temple", "Jerusalem", "Cohanim", and "red heifer". - Original Message - From: "Yardbird" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 7:25 PM Subject: [CTRL] Carnage in the Aqsa Mosque (fwd) -Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 08:17:34 + From: MER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Carnage in the Aqsa Mosque ___ __ / |/ / /___/ / /_ //M I D - E A S T R E A L I T I E S / /|_/ / /_/_ / /\\ Making Sense of the Middle East /_/ /_/ /___/ /_/ \\ http://www.MiddleEast.Org News, Information, Analysis That Governments, Interest Groups, and the Corporate Media Don't Want You To Know! - - - - - - 9/29/00 - - - - - - To receive MER regularly email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This eyewitness report from a Palestinian Muslim reader of MER present at the Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem today: CARNAGE IN THE AQSA MOSQUE Four dead and fifty to sixty civilians injured at the Aqsa mosque after clashes between Isreali forces and Palestinian demonstrators, today. Children protected by trees and large stones at close range to Isreali forces threw rocks in demonstration of yesterdays visit of Ariel Sharon to the Aqsa mosque. snip A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Sex Shop in Mecca?
-Caveat Lector- (a) How much got paid by the sex shop chain to which members of the Saudi royal family? (b) How long will it be before there is an extremely bloody revolution in Saudi Arabia? - Original Message - From: "Yardbird" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 7:47 PM Subject: [CTRL] Sex Shop in Mecca? -Caveat Lector- : Please note that 2 articles follow: : - Ann Summers to open sex shop in Mecca : - Sex - a veritable Goldmine : -- snip A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: PRAGUE DECLARATION - 28 Sep 2000
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "Soren" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 6:17 AM Subject: (50 Years) PRAGUE DECLARATION - 28 Sep 2000 PRAGUE DECLARATION 28 September 2000 We, the members of non-governmental and community-based organizations from different parts of the world, gathered in Prague and signing this statement, note the unprecedented early suspension of the 2000 annual general meeting of the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the World Bank. Given the number of scheduled sessions, including meetings with non-governmental organizations, that will evidently be canceled, the claim that they have simply finished their business rings hollow. We believe that the cancellation of the final day of meetings reflects the institutions' recognition of their own lack of credibility. Confronted with vigorous protests from organizations like ours and a refusal to accept the empty rhetoric of "poverty reduction" and "debt relief" offered in response to assertions of their responsibility for decades of economic malfeasance, they have, at last, wisely chosen silence over more lies. Our challenge to the right of these institutions and those who control them to dictate economic policy, largely through the leverage gained through illegitimate debts, has gone unanswered. Our call for a wholly new global economic structure, one which mandates not a single model but many choices for the many peoples of the world, is one that these institutions cannot accept, or even comprehend. We gathered in Prague for an exceptionally broad, inclusive, international protest against the discriminatory and unjust policies of the IMF and the World Bank. We oppose the undemocratic and elitist character of both the institutions and the meetings they hold. Our numbers include a great many young activists as well as people from Central and Eastern Europe who have now inaugurated the movement against corporate globalization in this region. Our numbers also include protesters in over 30 other countries, including Bangladesh, South Africa, Argentina, the United States, France, and India, who staged solidarity actions this week. We came to Prague to act in solidarity with the millions who could not be in Prague: the impoverished women farmers of Africa, the workers laid off in Asia, the Pacific and Caribbean islanders denied credit for their livelihoods, the young women working in Latin American sweatshops. We have spent our time in Prague not only protesting, but also discussing positive, people-centered alternatives to the debt crisis, structural adjustment programs, corrupt and environmentally devastating infrastructure projects, and the economic philosophy of development through exploitation of both the ecology and large majorities of the people in the South and in the East. At the same time we denounce the psychological terror and physical repression executed by the Czech police forces before and during the conference of the IMF and World Bank. Their actions, notwithstanding instances of provocative behavior by a few protesters, have injured dozens of innocent people and resulted in hundreds of unjustified arrests during and after the essentially peaceful demonstrations. We express our solidarity with the hundreds who remain imprisoned, and call for humane treatment and speedy release of all those detained. We particularly express our grave concern over reports of brutalization of those held in Czech prisons. We note that the World Bank itself has acknowledged this month that its policies are failing. Its World Development Report, although subjected to censorship within the institution, offers a revealing critique of the growth-centered development philosophy that has long been the Bank's adamant answer to every question. And its report on the transition economies of the former Soviet Union and Eastern Europe has revealed a tenfold increase in poverty, from 2% to 21%, a clear indication that the neo-liberal recipe peddled by the IMF and World Bank has failed yet another entire region of the globe. Given the evidence supplied by the World Bank itself, we would suggest that it and the IMF, and the commentators who continue to support them, consider that their calls for more of the same medicine, more of the same conditionalities, are inadequate. A revolution in economics is called for, one that returns control of economies to the people who live in them. The time has come to put economics at the service of the people, rather than entire societies at the service of economic models that have failed for over 20 years. Our protests in Prague, following those in Melbourne, Okinawa, Geneva, Chiang Mai, Washington, Seattle, and countless other cities, have again exposed to the world the contradictions and inadequacies of corporate globalization, and of the IMF and World Bank. Our protests
Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: Commission Says Gore-Bush Only; Responses Available]
-Caveat Lector- Perhaps Nader, Buchanan, and Browne should organize their own alternative debates--with empty chairs for Gore and Bush? A debate among those three--a REAL debate, not an extended photo op/sound bite session--could really be interesting... - Original Message - From: "Nurev Ind Research" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 1:26 PM Subject: [CTRL] [Fwd: Commission Says Gore-Bush Only; Responses Available] -Caveat Lector- Original Message Subject: Commission Says Gore-Bush Only; Responses Available Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 23:28:10 -0500 (CDT) From: Institute for Public Accuracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: ? To: undisclosed-recipients:; Institute for Public Accuracy 915 National Press Building, Washington, D.C. 20045 (202) 347-0020 * http://www.accuracy.org * [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Wednesday, September 27, 2000 Debate Commission Says Gore-Bush Only; Responses Available The Commission on Presidential Debates has formally announced that it intends to exclude all third party candidates from the presidential debates. Phil Donahue (who is a member of the Committee to Elect Ralph Nader President) wrote in the Sunday Los Angeles Times: "If Ralph Nader is excluded from the presidential debates, many issues important to millions of Americans will get little or no attention during the corporate sponsored face-offs between the two major party candidates" -- e.g. drug war, death penalty, trade, national health insurance. The following are among those available for interviews: JAMIN RASKIN, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Law professor at American University, Raskin represented Ross Perot in 1996, chairs the Appleseed Citizens' Task Force on Fair Debates and has advised the Nader campaign on the debate issue. He said today: "The 15 percent rule is utterly lawless. It triples the 5 percent rule in federal law for qualifying for public financing in a presidential campaign." Raskin added: "Nothing stops Vice President Al Gore and Gov. George W. Bush from setting up an exclusionary debate, but these debates are paid for by large corporations like Anheuser-Busch, which is contributing $550,000. The corporate funding makes these exclusionary debates an illegal corporate contribution." JEFF COHEN, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.fair.org/debates.html Cohen is head of Open Debates 2000, a project of the media watch group FAIR. Cohen said today: "The CPD is not 'nonpartisan' as it claims, it's a creation of the Democratic and Republican parties. A recent Zogby poll of 1,000 likely voters found that 60 percent want Nader and Buchanan included -- and people who are not 'likely voters' may be even more sympathetic to third party candidates." JEFF MILCHEN, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ReclaimDemocracy.org Director of ReclaimDemocracy.org, Milchen said today: "The CPD is not a legitimate institution. In 1992, Perot would have been banned from the debates under the CPD's current 15 percent standard, as would Jesse Ventura in 1998." ADAM EIDINGER, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.sinker.org Eidinger is with the Open Debate Society. He said: "I was among the activists who occupied the offices of Wagner Communications and Brewer Consulting Group, the only known address of the CPD, for 40 minutes on Sept. 20. Our aim was to put a face to the name of the CPD, a stealthy private corporation controlled by the Republican and Democratic parties." On Sept. 28, activists will attempt to shut down those offices. Eidinger added that "after this action we are going to join thousands to protest for open debates in Boston," the site of the first scheduled presidential debate. [The CPD (http://www.debates.org) can be reached at (202) 872-1020.] For more information, contact at the Institute for Public Accuracy: Sam Husseini, (202) 347-0020; David Zupan, (541) 484-9167 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A
[CTRL] Fw: PRAGUE JAILS: URGENT ACTION NEEDED
-Caveat Lector- It seems that a cop is a cop is a cop, no matter what nationality... At times this seems as if they just cut text from reports of the Philly jail conditions and pasted it into this post on Prague. - Original Message - From: "Jennifer Webster" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 11:46 AM Subject: (50 Years) URGENT ACTION NEEDED Reports are pouring in on the horrific conditions in the Prague jails. It is important to let the authorities in Prague know that we are aware of their actions and we are watching. This press release from INPEG (below) in Prague, on beatings and human rights violations of people arrested in the protests is based on eyewitness accounts and is very disturbing. So is the report from the indymedia site (below). People should call and fax the following numbers and demand that these violations cease, and that all prisoners be given access to water, food, medical attention, phone calls, and legal assistance. If you can't get through to any of the numbers below (which may happen today because it is a national holiday), please call the Czech embassy in Washington, DC, as soon as possible: 202-274-9100; press 0 for operator Call and fax: Office of President Vaclav Havel: 011 4202 24310855 phone 011 4202 24373196 fax (it would be better to fax today [Thursday] because it is a national holiday and offices are closed) e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ministry of the Interior: 011 4202 61421115 011-4202/6143 3552-3 (fax) US Embassy in Czech Republic: 011 4202 57530663 011 4202 57532059 (fax) __ Attention News and Assignment Editors FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE September 28, 2000 Contact: Chelsea Mozen 420 604 384452 or 02 6272349 To arrange interviews with witnesses recently released,, contact Cyan IMMEDIATELY: 0605 879 504 Shocking Human Rights Abuses Faced by Protestors in Jail Police Brutality Widespread, most severe for Czechs Israelis PRAGUE - In addition to the mass denial of the legal rights, individuals have faced extreme brutality in Czech Jails. Paul Rosenthal from Seattle Washington who was released this morning from the Olsanska jail in Prague after forty hours states, "What is happening inside the Czech jails is more than frightening. People have no rights,they are being beaten severely, they are disappearing. Women are being forced to strip in front of male guards and perform exercises. People with serious medical problems have been denied help." The following are accounts confirmed by people that have been released from jail: · Women have been strip searched by male officers and have been forced to perform physical exercises for their enjoyment · Many individuals are being denied water, food, and sleep; some are able to get food only if they pay guards, women and fascists are more likely to get water · Many people released have reported that before reaching police stations, officers took individuals to isolated areas and beat them severely. · Two Norwegians that went to a police station on Trisparni Street near Vlatavska to report a stolen mobile phone witnessed behind briefly opened doors that a number of people were handcuffed to the wall and being beaten severely. This has also been confirmed by many reports from released persons that in the processing rooms groups of 40 to 60 people were asked to spread eagle while they were beaten, heads were knocked back, legs were kicked in, and numbers of men had their groins twisted or punched. Additionally people handcuffed were tossed down stairs. · There is one report that 22 people were crammed into a 4 square meter cell. · 30 People were detained at the Olsanska jail in an outdoor courtyard overnight with no blankets or food. They were later moved to Balkova near Pilsen. · Two Germans that were detained in Lupacova, Praha 3 on Wednesday for approximately eight hours were held with an Israeli, an American,a German, and an Italian. The Israeli had been beaten severely, had difficulty walking, a black eye, and likely had a broken rib. He has been denied medical attention · People with diabetes were not fed, people that needed medication were not given it, the British Embassy had to intervene to get medication into the jail. · A Norwegian woman held in jail with 30 other women witnessed a German woman with a badly injured leg where medics were denied. · Right to legal representation and advice, right to interpreters, right to food and water, right to basic medical attention, and the right to a phone call have all been ignored on a widespread scale. · Czechs and Israelis are being beaten more drastically and are being detained longer · Many
[CTRL] Fw: Mass Protest Nothing New for the IMF/WB
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "Jennifer Webster" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 1:39 PM Subject: (50 Years) Mass Protest Nothing New for the IMF/WB REPORT DETAILS PATTERN OF SOUTHERN RESISTANCE By Brian Kenety PRAGUE, Sep. 25 (IPS) -- A report released today details what the authors say is a largely ignored pattern of protests in poor countries against the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and its policies, which has been eclipsed by high-profile actions in the West. Since the "Battle of Seattle" in December, when anti-globalization protesters laid siege to the ministerial meetings of the World Trade Organization (WTO), there have been at least 50 separate episodes of civil unrest in 13 poor countries, all directed at the IMF, said the report by the London-based World Development Movement (WDM). The report, "States of Unrest: Resistance to IMF Policies in Poor Countries," comes on the eve of massive protests against the Fund and the World Bank, whose annual meetings get officially underway here tomorrow. The WDM said that the media have heralded the dawn of a new movement in Europe and North America epitomized by protests aimed at the WTO, IMF and the World Bank. "However, this 'new movement' portrayed by the media as students and anarchists from the rich and prosperous global north is just the tip of the iceberg," said co-authors, Jessica Woodroffe and Mark Ellis-Jones, in the introduction to the report. "In the global south, a far deeper and wide-ranging movement has been developing for years, largely ignored by the media," they said. "Millions of people around the world have been brave enough to protest against IMF policies. From Argentina to Zambia, farmers, priests, teachers and trade unionists have called for an end to IMF-imposed economic reforms," said Woodroffe in a separate statement. She called attempts by the Fund and the Bank to dismiss protesters as rich students "naive and insulting." Furthermore, Woodroffe said it was significant that these protests have happened since the IMF announced its new commitment to poverty reduction at its annual meetings last September. "The depth of opposition reveals just how far the IMF has to go if its new poverty reduction rhetoric is to be anything more than a re-branding exercise," she said. According to the WDM, of the 50 separate protests documented in the report, conservative estimates indicate that more than half of them ended in the deployment of riot police or the army. A total of 10 people have lost their lives and over 300 persons have been injured in protests against the IMF and its policies. "Millions of people around the world have seen the IMF attempting to undermine their national governments. It is seen as forcing countries into a one-size-fits-all blue print of economic development," said Woodroffe. The report notes that the standard IMF package of reforms, called a Structural Adjustment Program, often involves common elements. These include reducing government spending by laying off workers, freezing salaries, and slashing funding for health, education and social services. Other elements are the privatization of state-run industries, leading to massive lay-offs with no social security provision and the loss of inefficient services to remote or poor areas; currency devaluation and export promotion, leading to the soaring cost of imports, land use charged for cash crops, and reliance on international commodity markets. Developing countries are still locked into a dependent relationship with the international financial institutions and donor governments, said the WDM report, which gives a detailed country-by-country summary that, it says, shows how deeply the poor oppose the implementation of "liberalization policies which hurt the poor." In Bolivia, escalating protests against the privatization of water and a 200 percent price hike led to serious riots and calls for the government to end IMF policies. The president was forced to call a state of emergency and six people were killed. In Ecuador this January, IMF protests led to the storming of the legislature, briefly occupied by 3,000 people, with another 10,000 protesting outside. In Paraguay in June, participants in a 48-hour general strike against the privatization of telephone, water and rail service were told it was non-negotiable as part of the IMF package. In July in Nigeria, the newly elected president faced a general strike against the deregulation of the oil sector and fuel price hikes (part of the IMF program). The Nigerian House of Representatives adopted a non-binding motion urging the federal government to suspend all activities with respect to the IMF loan. The report notes that in Brazil this month, more than a million people voted against IMF reforms in a mock referendum, and thousands followed the vote with
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Reports available from Defense Intelligence
-Caveat Lector- Nessie, I do indeed know how codenames are assigned. It USED to be the practice to give projects names which had no relationship to their purpose. Today codenames are used to BROADCAST a project's purpose. During WW2, operations had names like TORCH and MARKET GARDEN, which gave no clue as to their intent. Even operations devised during the '60s were disguised, like GARDEN PLOT. By the 1980s, however, codenames were used to proclaim loudly what they were intended to do: DESERT SHIELD/DESERT STORM is the most egregious example. I suspect that PYE WACKET falls into the latter category--a codename designed to suggest its purpose. FYI, John Van Druten, author of *Bell, Book and Candle*, took the name "Pyewacket" for the cat familiar from a list of witches' familiars, probably one found in a standard history of witchcraft such as Montague Summers. Second: I never heard of a novel titled *King Alfred*, so I'll have to accept what you say on face value. Are you implying this could have in fact been an intelligence op? Third: As for the Association of the Sword, that was precisely my point. I never heard of it, and was really puzzled to find it in the list of DIA reports. Bob - Original Message - From: "nessie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 10:46 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Reports available from Defense Intelligence -Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: PYE WACKET has to involve witchcraft You clearly don't understand how code names are assigned. Code names are supposed to disguise what they are about, not offer a clue. Pyewacket is the name of a witch's familiar (a toad, IIRC) from the trial of the Berwick witches. Pyewacket was the name of the cat in "Bell, Book and Candle," a popular movie from the 50s. But KING ALFRED? What in heaven's name could that have been? It was a novel about genocide against Black people. Some conspiracy buffs believe it was also a real plan. And has anyone on the list ever heard of the Association of the Sword before? What's that? A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Reports available from Defense Intelligence
-Caveat Lector- Dear God. Has anyone seen any of these reports yet? PYE WACKET has to involve witchcraft...Pyewacket is the name of a witch's familiar (a toad, IIRC) from the trial of the Berwick witches. But KING ALFRED? What in heaven's name could that have been? And has anyone on the list ever heard of the Association of the Sword before? - Original Message - From: "radman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 4:59 PM Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: Reports available from Defense Intelligence snip Anomalous Cognition Red Mercury, all documents on snip The Japanese A-Bomb Project snip Electro-Magnetic Disk Shaped Craft snip The King Alfred Plan snip Mount Ararat Anomaly Photography snip Project Pye Wacket snip Documents concerning IRONBARK snip Project *CONTROL* snip Information Concerning the Association of the Sword snip Project ATLANT Project THORN snip Thermoplane: A Russian Aircraft Proposed Use of the Apport Technique as a Means to Strengthen the US Intelligence System, ST-CS-01-169-72, by George A. Welk, DIA Report. Microwave Attacks, DIST-1810S-074 snip Psychotronic Warfare: Spiritual Access: DST-03447/82/016 snip A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: UPI: CIA acknowledges its Nazi roots
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "David Crockett Williams" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "www.GeneralAgencyServices.com" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2000 11:35 PM Subject: [July30] UPI: CIA acknowledges its Nazi roots July 30 in Philly - www.unity2000.com Below looks like first official public acknowledgement that CIA operations were/are heavily precendented/created and staffed by former Nazi SS personnel and "ethics". This brings recent DoJ Inspector General report acknowleding CIA complicity in hard drug trade into perspective (http://www.copvcia.com http://www.suppressedwriters.com http://www.cia-drugs.org) along with the history of how and why hemp was outlawed by fraud and disinformation campaign by American monopolist/industrialists who profited from the way by their industries in Nazi Germany and the US while suppressing the hemp competition to their monopolies, after which WWII ended and "behind the scenes" CIA was created by wholesale importation of Nazi SS intelligentia and integration of related skullduggery to control american politics and society for corporate exploitations. For nazi-hemp-us industry connections see http://www.emperors-clothes.com/articles/randy/swas1.htm and forwarded post at end of this article. See the movie about the US hemp relegalization movement: Facts, history and inspiration of Jack Herer at http://www.emperorofhemp.com Notice below UPI byline location where CIA released this information is College Park, Maryland, site of UMD campus from where main formal physics opposition is coming out against the new-energy "zero-point" technologies to replace nuclear and fossil fuel power. (see year 2000 public input to DOE archived at http://www.egroups.com/group/strategic-plan and story on DOE 1998 input, DOE acknowledgement of zero-point energy technology potential as "the Holy grail of energy research", and hassles from UMD CIA physics industrial complex "junk-yard dogs" at http://www.prop1.org starting from "energy" button at bottom of that page. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2000 5:05 AM Subject: [CIA-DRUGS] more on nazi connection to cia Hi all, No URL for this one, but there are some within this essay, so look around, and have fun by all means. Peace, Preston CIA Admits Nazi Connection by Robert Lederman Conspicuous by its silence the CIA owned and influenced media did virtually no coverage of what may be one of the decades biggest stories. Only UPI issued any statement on the CIA's admission that following WWII Hitler's top general in charge of espionage transferred his entire network of thousands of spies and double agents to what became the newly-formed CIA. What makes this much more than an interesting footnote to history is that the entire domestic and foreign history of the CIA has been molded by these former Nazis whose ideas on Eugenics, race, social control, biowarfare and propaganda dominate the policies of countless "think tanks" like the Rockefeller-funded Manhattan Institute and have influenced the U.S. government at its highest levels. During the past five decades numerous isolated revelations about Nazis imported to America by the Dulles brothers, William Casey and others have broken through the media blackout. These stories usually revolve around former concentration camp guards who hid their identity when emigrating. What makes this different is that General Ghelen was the #1 Nazi in this program. By acknowledging a CIA connection to Ghelen the entire can of worms can now be pried open. For excellent published works on the CIA/Nazi connection read: Trading With The Enemy by Charles Higham The Secret War Against the Jews by Loftus and Arrons Blowback by Christopher Simpson For my articles on the connection to Mayor Giuliani and the Bush family see: http://Baltech.org/lederman/spray/ From: http://www.vny.com/cf/News/upidetail.cfm?QID=119975 UPI 9/20/2000 CIA says Nazi general was intelligence source Wednesday, 20 September 2000 20:28 (ET) CIA says Nazi general was intelligence source COLLEGE PARK, Md., Sept. 20 (UPI) -- The Central Intelligence Agency has for the first time confirmed that a high-ranking Nazi general placed his anti-Soviet spy ring at the disposal of the United States during the early days of the Cold War. The National Archives said in a release Wednesday that the CIA had filed an affidavit in U.S. District Court "acknowledging an intelligence relationship with German General Reinhard Gehlen that it has kept secret for 50 years." "The CIA's announcement marks the first acknowledgement by that agency that it had any relationship with Gehlen and opens the way for declassification of records about the
[CTRL] 12,000 Cheer Nader, Duke in Minneapolis--Media Ignore Story
-Caveat Lector- I couldn't even find this at CNN.com, which usually runs everything from the wire services. My father-in-law, who went to hear Nader, said there was zilch in the Twin Cities media, despite the fact that the crowd was the biggest yet for the Green Party candidates. = SEPTEMBER 23, 00:17 EDT Nader Touts Agriculture Plan By ASHLEY H. GRANT Associated Press Writer --- - MINNEAPOLIS, Minn. (AP) - More than 12,000 people filled the Target Center sports arena Friday night, paying $7 each to hear presidential hopeful Ralph Nader denounce the major party candidates and call for social justice. Nader said the crowd was proof his candidacy should be taken seriously - and that he should be allowed to participate in debates with Republican candidate George W. Bush and Democrat Al Gore. ``This is the largest gathering of paying citizens of the entire year,'' for a Nader event the Green Party candidate told the raucous crowd, which shouted, whistled and waved placards that said, ``Let Ralph debate!'' Nader's running mate, Winona LaDuke - who lives on the White Earth Reservation in northern Minnesota - spoke about generational justice and the environment, and how she and Nader would make the world a better place. ``We will not be taken for granted, and we will vote,'' she said. Earlier Friday, Nader proposed shifting control of U.S. agriculture away from corporate conglomerates and back toward the family farmer. ``By weakening the stranglehold agribusiness has on the food industry, we will be able to increase farm gate prices and competition, which will consequently reduce food costs for consumers,'' he said. Nader billed the Target Center event a ``super rally'' and hoped it would draw a large audience to raise money and build support for his inclusion in the presidential debates. His farm plan calls for stronger enforcement of antitrust laws, prohibition of meatpacker ownership of livestock production facilities and allowing American farmers to grow industrial hemp. Next to him on a table during a news conference sat a pile of 18,000 signatures of Minnesotans requesting that Nader be included in the debates. The Minnesota stop was the second of four major rallies. The first, in Portland, Ore., was nearly as large as Friday's event, selling out with 10,000 tickets at $7 apiece. The last time Nader visited Minnesota, he held a smaller rally at the University of Minnesota that drew a packed house of 1,400 and raised about $17,000. It's an unusual way for a presidential candidate to raise money, but Nader says the rallies are the best way to show how serious he is. ``We have to demonstrate that we can draw far greater audiences,'' Nader said. Before Nader spoke, volunteers passed cardboard collection boxes up and down the aisles of the crowded arena. At least two people donated $1,000, and several others donated $500. Nearly everyone seemed to donate something. ``We're gonna bang our spoons until we get Ralph in the debates,'' shouted former talk show host Phil Donahue, who spoke before Nader took the stage. Nader cited Minnesota as an example of a state on the cutting edge of what should be done to spur more voter participation. Three things - debate access, public financing and same-day voter registration - helped Gov. Jesse Ventura get elected, and Nader thinks those principles should be emulated by other states. ``Those three factors should be the law of the land,'' he said, adding that ``campaign finance reform is the boulder on the highway to justice.'' Copyright 2000 Associated Press. All rights reserved. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL
Re: [CTRL] 12,000 Cheer Nader, Duke in Minneapolis--Media Ignore Story
-Caveat Lector- FWIW, I did turn up one article, a good one, in the St. Paul Pioneer Press, which my father-in-law had missed. But you'd think at least NPR would have reported the rally...they gave good coverage to the (smaller) Portland one. Anent the "liberal" media: my sister used to say that "liberal" was a meaningless term--you can be reactionary, conservative, or progressive, but what the heck is liberal? - Original Message - From: "Prudence L. Kuhn" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2000 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] 12,000 Cheer Nader, Duke in Minneapolis--Media Ignore Story -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 09/23/2000 1:47:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I couldn't even find this at CNN.com, which usually runs everything from the wire services. My father-in-law, who went to hear Nader, said there was zilch in the Twin Cities media, despite the fact that the crowd was the biggest yet for the Green Party candidates. So much for the much blathered about "liberal media." Thar ain't any! Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: [AFIB] Anthropology, Eugenics, Genocide
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "Tom Burghardt" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 2:53 PM Subject: [AFIB] Anthropology, Eugenics, Genocide DISCLAIMER: Antifa Info-Bulletin neither accepts nor endorses paid advertisements. Please ignore any ads above/below the content of this message; they have been inserted by the listserv not AFIB. ___ ANTIFA INFO-BULLETIN News * Analysis * Research * Action ___ SPECIAL EDITION - September 22, 2000 - * * * __ ANTHROPOLOGY, EUGENICS, GENOCIDE: Hideous Human Experimentation Tied to National Security State-Linked "Anthropologists" __ CONTENTS: 1. AFIB: Fascism's "Scientific" Face. 2. THE CHRONICLES OF HIGHER EDUCATION [US]: Scholars Fear that Alleged Misdeeds by Amazon Anthropologists will Taint Entire Discipline. 3. Details of Genocidal Experiments on the Yanomami People by National Security State-linked "Academics". * * * FASCISM'S "SCIENTIFIC" FACE By Tom Burghardt Editor, Antifa Info-Bulletin Under cover of "national security", gruesome Nazi-like projects were carried out by the U.S. National Security State throughout the Cold War period and beyond. When revelations emerged several years ago that the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission (AEC) sponsored "medical" research that injected gravely ill patients with radioactive plutonium with neither their knowledge nor their consent, a firestorm gripped Washington and forced the Energy Department to release thousands of pages of files documenting the hideous trail of suffering and death inflicted by government-funded "research." (See Eileen Welsome's 1993 Pulitzer Prize-winning series, "The Plutonium Experiment" in The Albuquerque Journal, November 15-17 1993). Now a new book slated for release next month by investigative journalist Patrick Tierney, "Darkness in El Dorado," New York, W.W. Norton Co., threatens to rip the mask of respectability from the faces of several prominent anthropologists who conducted genocidal experiments on the Yanomami people of Venezuela in the late 1960s--with funds provided once again by the AEC. At the center of the controversy is James V. Neel, a human geneticist based at the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor; Neel died last February. According to Tierney, Neel and his colleagues injected the Yanomami with an experimental vaccine for measles--with predictable and disastrous results. According to galley proofs of Tierney's forthcoming book provided to anthropologists opposed to such "research", Neel and his team knew well in advance that the vaccine, which medical researchers maintain must never be given to people who lack any natural immunity to the disease such as the Yanomami, produced measle-like symptoms that were fatal "to hundreds, perhaps thousands" of Amazonian tribespeople. Evidence has surfaced that Neel knew such unethical experimentation would produce a mass outbreak of the disease but proceeded despite this knowledge in order to "prove" his racist theories of eugenics and male dominance. There is also evidence that Neel and others, in collaboration with corrupt Venezuelan officials and U.S. multinational mining corporations conspired to "open-up" Yanomami lands to illegal gold-mining concessions with the anthropologists providing necessary "cover" for developers. While one wing of the National Security State showered cash for unethical "medical research" described by one experimenter as having "a little of the Buchenwald touch," the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency virtually invented the field of "mass communications research" as a component of U.S. "psychological operations" at home and abroad. (See: Christopher Simpson, Science of Coercion, New York, Oxford University Press, 1994). According to Simpson: "Government psychological warfare programs helped shape mass communication research into a distinct scholarly field, strongly influencing the choice of leaders and determining which of the competing scientific paradigms of communication would be funded, elaborated, and encouraged to prosper. The state usually did not directly determine what scientists could or could not say, but it did significantly influence the selection of who would do the 'authoritative' talking in the field." With Tierney's revelations, we now are beginning to learn that the National Security State's "public-private partnership" extended into the field of social science and anthropology--with disastrous results for the victims of government-funded criminality. That "scientists" such as Neel and others described in the
Re: [CTRL] Fw: St. John's Wort as Effective as Antidepressant Drug 9/17/00
-Caveat Lector- Samantha, you didn't read what I wrote. I said *one faction* of the NWO favored synthetic medicines over natural ones... My implication was that this particular faction is interested more in protecting the endangered ecosystem than in promoting individual liberty. *This* is why they support the pharmaceutical industry, not because they necessarily support business--they tend to regard it as messy and inconvenient and rather prefer state monopolies--but because manmade medicines don't require plundering rainforests these particular NWO types regard as sacrosanct. I'm not talking about cultivated herbals; there are many which do not survive cultivation, or which lose their efficacy when cultivated, and these are still being harvested in the wild. This NWO faction may be allied to the Prince Philip-WWF group who appear to be interested in depopulating Africa, if speculation seen on this list some time ago is correct. In any event, my response to Amelia's post was REALLY designed to show how such a post could indeed be legitimate material for conspiracy theory. - Original Message - From: "Samantha L." [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 3:55 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fw: St. John's Wort as Effective as Antidepressant Drug 9/17/00 -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/20/00 7:43:47 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I suspect that the NWO, or rather the faction of it that's pushing the Codex, favors synthesized medicines over herbal ones, partly because there is less potential risk to endangered species and ecosystems, especially in the tropical rain forests. I don't understand that argument. First of all, who ever accused Big Business of being concerned about the ecosystem? Secondly, these herbs are cultivated more often that wildcrafted. I'm glad some of the major pharmaceuticals are selling herbs. They are an undeniably powerful lobby and Codex may have less of a chance because of them. Samantha A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: Naples Saint's Blood Liquefies, Citizens Relieved
-Caveat Lector- Nor whether it is *human* blood. The "miracle" of San Gennaro's blood must be regarded as superstition, a living fossil surviving from the Middle Ages. No wonder the level of church attendance has been plummeting in Italy, if this is typical. - Original Message - From: "nessie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fw: Naples Saint's Blood Liquefies, Citizens Relieved -Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: Scientists have confirmed that the substance inside the closed vial is blood Note that Reuters tells us neither which scientists nor what tests they are supposed to have used. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: (50 Years) South African Unions Call for IMF Reforms
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "Jennifer Webster" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 5:34 PM Subject: (50 Years) South African Unions Call for IMF Reforms MIDRAND, South Africa, Sept 20 (AFP) - The International Confederation of Free Trade Unions (ICFTU) called Wednesday on South Africa's largest trade union federation to put pressure on the Pretoria government to push for more reforms in the IMF and World Bank. South African Minister of Finance Trevor Manuel will chair the annual meeting starting Thursday of the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the World Bank in Prague. "A strong argument for real reform coming from South Africa will make a difference at that meeting," ICFTU General Secretary Bill Jordan said in an address to the Congress of South African Trade Unions (COSATU) conference, on the third day of its triennial conference. COSATU is an alliance partner of the ruling African National Congress (ANC) along with the South African Communist Party. Pretoria has been pushing for more influence of developing nations on the international bodies. Reserve Bank Governor Tito Mboweni told a parliamentary committee Tuesday that the South African delegation to Prague would oppose a proposal to give voting rights on the IMF on the basis of economic size and development. This would increase the power of South Africa and Nigeria at the expense of other sub-Saharan African countries, he said. The delegation would also call for new measures to reduce debt in Africa, Mboweni said. But debt relief was not enough, Jordan told the more than 2,000 delegates at the COSATU congress, adding that economic strategies needed to change. According to the World Bank, in the past 10 years the number of people living in extreme poverty -- on less than one dollar a day -- had risen to a quarter of the world's population, he said. "You would think that with such a devastating indictment of their failed policies the World Bank would reform its own policies and practices. "But no, almost in defiance of the evidence it continues to push its simplistic useless free-market strategies for solving poverty," he said. The ICFTU, which has 123 million members, says the world trade union movement's fight against globalisation is "the greatest fight of its life." The COSATU congress has highlighted tensions between the federation and the ANC government, which has adopted a market-friendly macro-economic policy and said that South Africa has to adapt to and not resist globalisation. === 50 Years Is Enough Network http://www.50years.org To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the body of the message. Questions? email [EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: St. John's Wort as Effective as Antidepressant Drug 9/17/00
-Caveat Lector- I've seen this report before; it appears legitimate. Now to the conspiracy connections: first, ALL of the big pharmaceutical firms have their own lines of "natural" remedies either on the shelves now or ready to go. Second, consider the Codex Alimentarius factor--will natural/herbal remedies still be allowed when the entire planet has come under the Codex? I suspect that the NWO, or rather the faction of it that's pushing the Codex, favors synthesized medicines over herbal ones, partly because there is less potential risk to endangered species and ecosystems, especially in the tropical rain forests. - Original Message - From: "Amelia" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 11:54 AM Subject: [CTRL] Fw: St. John's Wort as Effective as Antidepressant Drug 9/17/00 -Caveat Lector- Let's see--I am supposed to announce whether or not I believe this. I have not decided as yet. And that is what the "Caveat Lector" is all about. Plus my personal beliefs are none of anybody else's business. How does this tie into conspiracies? Major pharmaceutical companies are attempting to prevent free access to alternatives to their products. These products could be equally beneficial as the very costly traditional ones. Any other information required to post an article? Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 10:58 AM Subject: St. John's Wort as Effective as Antidepressant Drug 9/17/00 http://www.mercola.com/2000/sept/17/st_johns_wort_depression.htm A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Jesuit Oath
-Caveat Lector- Nessie, I haven't seen specific references, but will research this and get back to the list. I've wondered myself just which Protestant kings were assassinated. - Original Message - From: "nessie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 1:50 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] "The Jesuit Oath" -Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: In a few instances, Jesuit agents assassinated kings who had come to regard them as their most trustworthy advisers. Which kings?
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[CTRL] Peru Gripped by Reports of Arrest of Spy Chief
-Caveat Lector- http://my.cnn.com/jbcl/cnews/Go?template=nmDethd=0sname=Worldsbc_id=26art_id =6031496uid=969325436280 Peru Gripped by Reports of Arrest of Spy Chief LIMA (Reuters) - Peru was gripped Monday by conflicting reports about whether its shadowy spy chief and most-feared man had been detained amid a full-scale political crisis that has thrown the South American nation into turmoil. Ana Montesinos, a woman identified by some local media as the sister of intelligence chief Vladimiro Montesinos, filed court papers alleging that her brother was being held illegally at the headquarters of the National Intelligence Service (SIN), the agency he turned into Peru's most notorious institution. Local CPN radio said he had been detained by the military -- stunning if true because Montesinos was believed to have handpicked the top brass and rallied them behind President Alberto Fujimori in his role as the president's key adviser. A bribery scandal involving Montesinos prompted Fujimori, who was elected in a tainted ballot in May, to make the bombshell announcement Saturday that he was disbanding the SIN, calling new elections and would not run again. He gave no timetable for the elections. The government did not officially confirm or deny that the detention had taken place, and some congressmen accused the wily spy chief and the military of playing games to buy themselves time to find a way out of the political crisis. Meanwhile, U.S. officials expressed concern that the Peruvian military may try to disrupt moves toward new elections and opposition leader Alejandro Toledo refused to rule out the possibility of a military coup. Opposition leaders, who have demanded the arrest of Montesinos, called on Fujimori to resign and make good on his promise to hold new elections. For 10 years, Montesinos, a 56-year-old former army captain who only rarely has been seen in public, has been viewed as the power behind Fujimori. Critics alleged that he spied for the Central Intelligence Agency, authorized death squads and colluded with drug traffickers. His downfall was a videotape that showed Montesinos giving $15,000 to an opposition lawmaker in an apparent bribe. FINANCIAL REPERCUSSIONS Opponents were jubilant over Fujimori's announcement but Peru, which is struggling to attract foreign investment, felt the pain as fleeing investors Monday pushed stocks down 5.72 percent, the sol currency down 0.6 percent and Brady bonds down 4 percent. Cesar Carmen Ojeda, the lawyer representing Ana Montesinos, said the woman had requested the release of Vladimiro Montesinos as a preventive measure. But he said he had no confirmation of the arrest. "We continue in absolute mystery," he told cable television Canal N. Ana Montesinos said her brother's detention -- if he has been detained -- was illegitimate because there was no investigation open into allegations he had paid bribes. U.S. officials, who were highly critical of Fujimori's fraud-tarnished re-election, said they were worried that the military may try to disrupt the moves toward fresh elections. "We have every reason to believe that this can be done in a peaceful manner, but that certainly is not 100 percent guaranteed," one U.S. official said in Washington. Toledo, the opposition presidential candidate who boycotted the May runoff election against Fujimori alleging it was skewed against him, urged the president to create a transition government that could hold elections in six months. "The democratic bloc is trying to coordinate actions, but anything could happen, from taking Montesinos into prison, to a military coup, to a resolution that I hope will be peaceful and democratic," he told CNN. OPPOSITION FORCES RALLY Toledo's supporters massed in downtown Lima ahead of what he called a peaceful rally. The last time Toledo led a mass protest, at Fujimori's swearing-in ceremony in July, six people died and Lima's streets became a smoky battleground. Fujimori's allies tried to allay fears that the military would step into any political vacuum. "The president is still in command and leading the armed forces. There is reason to worry about an alternative situation (coup)," said ruling-party Peru 2000 lawmaker Martha Chavez, a Fujimori stalwart. Chavez said the unicameral legislature could pass a law that would allow the new elections to be held in May 2001. "By July 28 we could have a new president," she said. The opposition has said it will not return to Congress to vote to approve an election date until Montesinos is definitely jailed. "If the president has said that it's over, that he will deactivate the intelligence service, he also has to comply with the law and see that criminals are jailed," Lima Mayor Alberto Andrade, a former presidential candidate, told CPN radio. Prime Minister Federico Salas said Sunday night Montesinos was still in Lima and had not been detained. Confirmation of his arrest would be the strongest indication yet of a break
Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: [populist-talk] WHAT RACE WAS JESUS?]
What race was Jesus? How about "all of the above"? - Original Message - From: "Nurev Ind Research" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 7:33 PM Subject: [CTRL] [Fwd: [populist-talk] WHAT RACE WAS JESUS?] Original Message Subject: [populist-talk] WHAT RACE WAS JESUS? What Race was Jesus? Recently, at a theological meeting in Rome,scholars had a heated debate on this subject. One by one, they offered their evidence THREE REASONS THAT JESUS WAS MEXICAN: 1. His first name was Jesus 2. He was bilingual 3. He was always being harassed by the authorities But then there were equally good arguments that JESUS WAS BLACK: 1. He called everybody "brother" 2. He liked Gospel 3. He couldn't get a fair trial But then there were equally good arguments that JESUS WAS JEWISH: 1. He went into His Father's business 2. He lived at home until he was 33 3. He was sure his Mother was a virgin, and his Mother was sure he was God. But then there were equally good arguments that JESUS WAS ITALIAN: 1. He talked with his hands 2. He had wine with every meal 3. He used olive oil But then there were equally good arguments that JESUS WAS CALIFORNIAN:1. He never cut his hair 2. He walked around barefoot 3. He started a new religion But then there were equally good arguments that JESUS WAS IRISH:1. He never got married 2. He was always telling stories 3. He loved green pastures But perhaps the most compelling evidence. THREE PROOFS THAT JESUS WAS A WOMAN: 1. He had to feed a crowd at a moment's notice when there was no food 2. He kept trying to get the message across to a bunch of men who just didn't get it 3. Even when He was dead, He had to get up because there was more work to do. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: IMF/WB to announce improved debt program
- Original Message -
From: "Soren" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 4:14 PM
Subject: (50 Years) IMF/WB to announce improved debt program
Below is the lead story in today's (Sunday's) New York Times, which reports
that the IMF, World Bank, and their leading "shareholders" (the G7
governments) have agreed to announce another improvement in their debt
management ("relief") program, the Heavily Indebted Poor Countries (HIPC)
Initiative. This is the program announced in '96 then revised at the
Cologne G7 Summit in '99.
As this article is based on "leaks" in advance of the official announcement,
it is quite short on specifics. The claim is made that many of the most
onerous conditions linked to debt relief will be set aside so that the
relief can be delivered more quickly. It is unclear whether the conditions
being foregone are the structural adjustment programs (SAPs), however -- the
conditions explicitly referred to in the article are those concerning how
the proceeds from debt relief will be spent.
The most serious problem with the HIPC program, in the estimation of the 50
Years Is Enough Network and many others, is the conditioning of its
often-meager benefits (and in some cases, like Zambia's penalties, since
they'll be paying more after HIPC for the privilege of seeing some of their
account numbers go down) on commitment to structural adjustment programs,
the disastrous policy packages that have devastated 90+ countries around the
world. Eliminating debt is of limited value if countries still have to
endure the "austerity" that debt has long condemned them to. In our
analysis, HIPC is in essence a bribe to persuade governments to stay in the
"system" as they run out of incentive to pay endless debts and adhere to
SAPs. We are also convinced that the "bottom line" for those who control
the IMF and World Bank is the imposition of SAPs -- they may give in on
other things, but they will not abandon SAPs until they are unequivocally
forced to by popular opposition. So it will be very interesting to see if
those requirements are part of the "easing" of HIPC's conditions.
The last paragraph of this article suggests that SAPs will remain part of
HIPC, and that the changes to be announced in Prague should be examined
carefully before any celebrations start: "A senior administration official
said Friday that the Treasury Department had approved the lending agencies'
expedited approach to debt relief.
But the official played down the matter as largely "window dressing"
designed to placate protesters, not completely overhaul the debt relief
process. He said the United States would not allow nations to pass through
the debt-relief process unless they commit to approved poverty-reduction
strategies."
Other interesting points to notice:
- World Bank President James Wolfensohn explains why they're accelerating
the HIPC process: "This has assumed extraordinary proportions as a political
matter, and we just have to get it done." Wolfensohn is not always the most
polished press personality. He can usually be relied to speak of debt as a
humanitarian issue; here he acknowledges the power of the Jubilee 2000
movement and the fact that he does not personify the vanguard of progress on
debt and poverty -- that indeed he is part of the problem and has to be
forced to move.
- The article also reports that the Bank is planning to announce a new
"multibillion dollar fund that will provide low-interest loans to nations to
help them put antipoverty strategies into practice" through which "some of
the strings attached to debt relief in the past could be fastened instead to
new loans, giving the lending agencies a continued oversight role without
hindering debt forgiveness."
Soren Ambrose
50 Years Is Enough Network
Rich Nations Pledge to Double Countries Getting Debt Relief
By JOSEPH KAHN
WASHINGTON, Sept. 16 2000
In an era of unprecedented prosperity for rich nations, their financial
leaders are promising a high-profile campaign to double the number
of poor nations granted debt relief by year's end.
The commitment would mean easing the conditions usually
imposed on countries that want debt forgiven, international
financial officials said.
The pledge, to be announced at the annual meeting of
international lending agencies in Prague next week, is intended
to defuse one of the most potent arguments of the
antiglobalization protesters who have disrupted nearly every
recent gathering of finance and trade ministers: In times of
previously unknown wealth, many of the poorest nations have
become increasingly indebted to the rich.
A senior administration official said Friday that the Treasury
Department had approved the lending agencies' expedited
approach to debt relief. But the official played down the matter
as largely "window dressing" designed to placate protesters,
not completely overhaul
[CTRL] Fw: S26: Waking Up The Elites
- Original Message - From: Doug Hunt To: TOES ; July 30 in Philly ; 50 yen Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 1:40 PM Subject: [July30] S26: Waking Up The Elites July 30 in Philly - www.unity2000.com From The Nation October 2, 2000 ACTIVISM IN THE STREETS HAS LED TO AN OUTPOURING OF PLATITUDES IN THE SUITES. Waking Up the Global Elite by WILLIAM GREIDER E-mail this story to a friend. A tide of corporate high-mindedness seems to be sweeping the globe, inspired by last year's ruckus in Seattle and a continuing series of confrontations. One international organization after another has scurried to catch up with the popular rebellions against globalization by announcing "initiatives" to promote human rights, the environment and worker protections. Leading multinationals have been eager to sign up as co-sponsors, since the new codes or compacts are all voluntary and toothless. If corporate declarations of good intent were edible, the world's hungry would be fed. The purpose obviously is public relations--improving the tarnished images of global corporations and portraying weak-willed international institutions as attentive and relevant to the turmoil of worldwide controversy. But even empty gestures can prove to be meaningful, sometimes far beyond what their authors had in mind. An enduring truth, a wise friend once explained to me, is that important social change nearly always begins in hypocrisy. First, the powerful are persuaded to say the appropriate words, that is, to sign a commitment to higher values and decent behavior. Then social activists must spend the next ten years pounding on them, trying to make them live up to their promises or persuading governments to enact laws that will compel them to do so. In the long struggle for global rules and accountability, this new phase may be understood as essential foreplay. The United Nations has set up a pretty new website (unglobalcompact.org) that Secretary General Kofi Annan describes as "making a bit of history" because it brings together forty-four multinational corporations and banks, a couple of labor federations and assorted civil-society groups "to launch a joint initiative in support of universal values." Companies that signed up for the UN's Global Compact include some familiar stalwarts from the globalization wars, like Nike and Royal Dutch Shell. All promise to do better by humanity in the future and to report their progress every year on the UN's web page. In Paris, meanwhile, the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development has dusted off its long-neglected "Guidelines for Multinational Enterprises" from the seventies and intends to issue an updated version. Some US companies are already grumbling about proposed language suggesting that corporate management has an obligation to consult with labor. The "Sullivan Principles," first promoted by the Rev. Leon Sullivan of Philadelphia during the campaign against apartheid in South Africa, have also been born again. A new, globalized version asks multinationals to subscribe to eight broad principles (no children in factories, no bribery of governments, that sort of thing). The Washington International Business Report, a monthly newsletter that serves US multinationals, dubbed all this action "Return of the Codes." Demands from developing countries in the seventies for a "New International Economic Order," the WIBR suggested, have finally converged with "the new millennial proposals for regulation of rampant globalization by somebody." Only, of course, regulation is exactly what the companies hope to avoid. Nike seems to be everywhere with its good deeds. In addition to collaborating with the UN, the company has also joined a new "Global Alliance for Workers and Communities" with the World Bank and the International Youth Foundation. Then there's the Fair Labor Association, launched by Bill Clinton to help US firms clean up their sweatshops; Nike is an active participant (when do they find the time to make shoes?). Nike CEO Phil Knight explained that the Global Alliance is surveying workers themselves to find out their needs. "We are finding some consistent themes," Knight reported. "Workers all want better healthcare and more education, as well as specific training on reproductive health and childrearing. They also want help for their families." Could they mean better pay? Knight never mentions wages, an omission consistent with the voluntary codes promoted by the multinationals. The international flurry of high-level solicitude invites cynicism, since it's clearly intended to reassure the general public (never mind activists) that conscientious firms and institutions are on the case, diligently cleaning up the global system, so there's no need for any intrusive laws from governments. But each self-righteous claim offers a new target for agitation. Every "statement of principles" is a potential public relations disaster for the companies, because the contradictory
[CTRL] BBC: Humans Face Extinction
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/in_depth/sci_tech/2000/festival_of_science/news id_921000/921748.stm Tuesday, 12 September, 2000, 14:36 GMT 15:36 UK Humans 'face extinction' By BBC News Online's Helen Briggs Humans, like other large mammals, are showing signs of imminent extinction, claims a UK palaeontologist. Large animals are dying out at a much higher rate than models predict, said Professor Michael Boulter. He told the British Association's Festival of Science in London that he believed the human race would "soon" follow. The theory comes from a mathematical model developed by Professor Boulter's research team at the University of East London. They have used data from the fossil record to chart the evolution and extinction of all animals and plants that have died out during the course of the planet's history. Planet peril Large mammals are becoming extinct at a very much higher rate than the curve predicts even before humans started making their mark on the planet by burning fossil fuels, said Professor Boulter. "My theory is that the Earth and life on it needs, from time to time, culls," he told the BBC. "The last and best known cull was of the dinosaurs 65 million years ago. I reckon from the evidence that we have that there is reason to believe that we humans are interfering with the environment so much that we are making ourselves extinct." Professor Boulter won't be drawn on precisely when he thinks the human race might die out. He will only say "soon", which, in geological terms, could mean millions of years. "The good news is that life on Earth will continue peacefully and happily without large mammals," added Professor Boulter. "Of course, it's poor news for us." A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: Private Spies, Public Repression
- Original Message - From: "Tom Burghardt" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 9:10 PM Subject: [AFIB] Private Spies, Public Repression DISCLAIMER: Antifa Info-Bulletin neither accepts nor endorses paid advertisements. Please ignore any ads above/below the content of this message; they have been inserted by the listserv not AFIB. __ ANTIFA INFO-BULLETIN News * Analysis * Research * Action __ RESEARCH SUPPLEMENT - September 13, 2000 - * * * __ PRIVATE SPIES, PUBLIC REPRESSION __ CONTENTS: 1. PHILADELPHIA INQUIRER: Rumors Had Troopers Seeing Reds During the GOP Convention. 2. POLITICAL RESEARCH ASSOCIATES [US]: The Maldon Institute. 3. LET 'em TALK [US]: McDonald's Private Spies (1983). * * * RUMORS HAD TROOPERS SEEING REDS DURING THE GOP CONVENTION PHILADELPHIA INQUIRER Metro News Sunday, September 10, 2000 http://web.philly.com/content/inquirer/2000/09/10/city/PPROTEST10.htm By Craig R. McCoy and Linda K. Harris INQUIRER STAFF WRITERS The cold war is long over but Pennsylvania State Police were still on the lookout for communists and Soviet sympathizers among the demonstrators protesting last month's Republican National Convention in Philadelphia. In state police affidavits justifying a raid on a West Philadelphia warehouse used by convention protesters, troopers alleged that communists were behind the demonstrations. "Funds allegedly originate with Communist and leftist parties and from sympathetic trade unions," the state police declared in the affidavits. "Other funds reportedly come from the former Soviet-allied World Federation of Trade Unions." The language left critics, including demonstrators and civil-liberties lawyers, both a little amused and a lot indignant. They said it seemed like something out of a musty red-baiting periodical of the 1950s - Red Channels and the like. The allegations - passed to state police by a private group funded by conservative multimillionaire Richard Mellon Scaife - did not belong in government affidavits seeking judicial approval for a search warrant that led to 75 arrests, they said. "It's McCarthyite. It's tarring people," said David Kairys, a law professor at Temple University. "It's reminiscent of the worst of the '50s." The allegations of communist money made up only a small part of the 23-page affidavits in support of search warrants for three vehicles and the warehouse, at 4100 Haverford Ave. The affidavits, made public Wednesday after having been sealed for more than a month, relied most heavily on the direct observations of undercover troopers who infiltrated the warehouse. Known as "the puppet warehouse," police called it a center of illegal activity; activists said it was a workshop in which they made more than 100 puppets and a large satirical float, "Corpzilla." The documents were the first public acknowledgement that police had infiltrated groups planning to protest during last month's Republican National Convention. Without elaboration, the affidavits stated that the allegations of communist funding had come from the little-known Maldon Institute. Asked last week about the Maldon Institute, Jack Lewis, a state police spokesman, seemed a little unsure. "Our people said they believed this institute is based in the United Kingdom," he said. The Maldon Institute - named after an obscure battle in England in the 10th century - is based in Baltimore and has a mailing address in Washington, D.C. Lewis added: "I'm told by our intelligence people that the Maldon Institute is a private organization that provides intelligence information to police departments. "We have found in the past that the Maldon Institute generally presents reliable information." Lewis said that state police and other police departments "routinely receive information from the Maldon Institute at no cost, via e-mail. The department did not solicit this information." Asked whether state police had attended Maldon Institute conferences, Lewis responded: "State police personnel have had contact in the U.S. with representatives of the institute." According to public records, the institute is funded, at least in part, by Scaife, the Pittsburgh political philanthropist best known for his financial support of several private investigations of President Clinton in recent years. Financial forms for Scaife's Carthage Foundation show it provided Maldon with $250,000 in 1998. Institute documents show that board members have included D. James Kennedy, a Florida televangelist who is cofounder of the
Re: [CTRL] (CTRL) NH: Dubya's Massacre of English: From Dyslexia or Too Much Lying?
Actually, G.W.'s uncanny ability to mangle language ("subliminable?") probably
comes as much as anything from having grown up in the oil industry. Oilmen (and
it *is* a man's industry) speak a lingo all their own, perhaps best called
"oll-spick," which derives from the East Texas brand of English. An oilman can
be from Maine and he will still sound like an East Texan. Rather like Humpty
Dumpty, oll-spick operates on the assumption that you have to prove who's the
master, you or the word... (FWIW, my uncle was a petroleum geologist in
Lafayette, Lousiana for years, and knew a lot of the top people in the oil
industry. And even though he was born in New Haven, Connecticut, and grew up in
Philadelphia, he still spoke like an East Texas farmhand.)
- Original Message -
From: "Prudence L. Kuhn" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 8:14 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] (CTRL) NH: Dubya's Massacre of English: From Dyslexia or Too
Much Lying?
In a message dated 09/12/2000 5:43:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Effete, Liberal snob rag Vanity Fair has published a piece by one
of their premier elitist liberal writers, Gail Sheehy. She has
opined that Dubya Bush's undeniable and inexcusable mangling and
butchering of the English language may stem from un-admitted
and/or undiagnosed dyslexia.
Well, it sounds plausible, but it's not the case. Dyslexia gives one a sight
problem. My daughter is a dyslexic. She was trained to see properly, and
from the moment of her training she has had no problems unless she gets
overtired. She has a degree and works for the Government in contracting. It
is not necessary for a dyslexic to go through life being treated as a blind
person, but the educational types in this country have made it near
impossible for the proper training to be made available. Why I do not know.
Still no matter how bad the dyslexia is, it is only a sight problem. It does
not cause a difficulty with speech or memory. In fact most dyslexics have
wonderful memories. There are children who can recite whole books. I don't
know Dubya well enough to have an opinion on his intelligence. I don't like
him, because he is a member of the Bush family, and that troop scare the hell
out of me. Prudy
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Re: [CTRL] Self-help Subliminals ``RATS''
Anyone notice that Bush's dyslexia is showing again? He keeps referring...consistently...to "subliminable" messages, and now the news media are starting to copy his pronunciation! Didn't anyone ever think of checking a dictionary?? - Original Message - From: "Steve Wingate" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 11:21 PM Subject: [CTRL] "Self-help Subliminals" ``RATS'' (Bush is desperate! Like with John McCain. And maybe just maybe his CIA dad gave McCain cancer?!! No. Could not be. Never in a million years. What will the Bush's do to Gore now? --SW) --- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 19:52:11 -0700 From: Nicky Molloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:SNET: "Self-help Subliminals" ``RATS'' -Original Message- From: American Patriot Friends Network [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, 13 September 2000 10:03 Subject: "Self-help Subliminals" ``RATS'' "Self-help Subliminals" - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.infinn.com/subliminal.html Bush Says Ad in Rat Flap Will Be Changed http://dailynews.netscape.com/mynsnews/story.tmpl?table=ncat=50100id=2 9121024000258235 WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Republican presidential candidate George W. Bush said on Tuesday his campaign had dropped a television ad in which the word ``RATS'' flashes across the screen in an apparent *subliminal message* attacking his opponent. snip A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] OT: Scientists conclusively I.D. Christ's fingerprint (fwd)
The "source" is likely to have been the Weekly World News, I suspect... Note that nowhere are the affiliations of any of the "experts" given. This is typical of such bare-faced hoaxes. - Original Message - From: "MICHAEL SPITZER" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 11:02 AM Subject: [CTRL] OT: Scientists conclusively I.D. Christ's fingerprint (fwd) [I'm checking for the source of this, and will advise] -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 08:29:07 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GLASTONBURY England A finger print recovered from a 2000 year old silver chalice was "almost certainly" left behind by Jesus of Nazereth, a top expert says. snip A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] twitter-patter
Thank you, Amelia! People, let me urge all of us in no uncertain terms to TAKE PERSONAL DISCUSSIONS OFF-LIST. That includes simple "amens" and "good posts" as well as flames. Anything more is a waste of our communal bandwidth. Bob - Original Message - From: "Amelia" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 11:37 AM Subject: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] twitter-patter Dear List Friends, Please let me gently remind you that we have the 100 post limit and need not use that to be unkind to each other. I have always become very uncomfortable when people around me fight because I am afraid somebody I care about is going to be hurt. We complain about the 7 post limit but then waste our posts being mean to each other. God forbid we each have 20 posts in which to do this! Maybe 5 posts each would be better. snip A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: Phila. Police abuse protesters
It's the Maldon Institute, headquartered in Baltimore with a mailing address in D.C. Scaife's foundation gave $250,000 last year to Maldon. No word yet on the group's other funding sources, but their board includes right-wing stalwarts such as D. James Kennedy and Robert Moss. Moss is a journalist who co-wrote several novels (notably *The Spike*) with Arnaud de Borchgrave (former *Newsweek* correspondent, now publisher of the Moon-owned *Washington Times*) during the 1970's claiming that the news media were used willingly by the KGB to influence the American public. - Original Message - From: "radman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 12:08 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fw: Phila. Police abuse protesters Robert, Please clarify "a right-wing private intelligence outfit funded in part by Richard Mellon Scaife". I looked through your post and maybe I missed it, but please name this group. Thanks! the radman A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] I TWAT I Twaw a Pwuddy Kat?
Dear. God. In. Heaven. Joshua, I sincerely hope that this, er, story finally puts an end to one of the most bizarre threads to appear on this list in some time. Bob - Original Message - From: "Nurev Ind Research" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] "I TWAT I Twaw a Pwuddy Kat?" Tenorlove wrote: --- NSA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suppose next, all these PC femmes will be onto me about my use of the term PUSSY above, as if to suggest they've never stroked theirs perhaps, But you can say "I'm going to snatch that pussy and put her in a box" and mean something entirely innocent. Holy shit! What has happened to the usually high standards and integrity practiced on this List??? I'm shocked, simply shocked that you people have sunk so low. I now feel that it's incumbent upon me to restore the extant subject matter to its usual level. Here is a description of a little known incident which occurred just before the 1992 election when Bill Clinton ran against George Daddy Bush who was under serious pressure for fibbing about not raising taxes. At a very shi-shi Hollywood fund raiser for the beloved Clintons, Tinseltown's best began to play Charades. The idea was to act out possible slogans for the campaign. As soon as someone would guess the intent of someone's little improv, the great, glorious, glittering, gala would all shout it out loud together. Now you would not think that among all these fine professionals, it would be Hillary R. Clinton who would come up with the best performance. BUT SHE DID! She jumped up on the dias, lifted her dress, and exposed her naked, shaved " down there " to the whole audience. After a stunned two seconds, the crowd understood the slogan Hillary conveyed. They all shouted joyfully... READ MY LIPS, NO MORE BUSH! J2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd:Re: Fw: Phila. Police abuse protesters
Keep trying, I got thru okay. - Original Message - From: "nessie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fwd:Re: Fw: Phila. Police abuse protesters [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: http://www.publiceye.org/liberty/Security_for_Activists.htm 404 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: BRIEFING: First-hand allegations of abuse in Philly
- Original Message - From: Cliff Pearson To: Cliff Pearson Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 5:44 PM Subject: [July30] BRIEFING: First-hand allegations of abuse in Philly July 30 in Philly - www.unity2000.com Pearson Communications MEDIA RELATIONS FOR NONPROFIT AND ACTIVIST ORGANIZATIONS FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE September 11, 2000 Editorial Contact: Cliff Pearson, Pearson Communications, (214) 319-9819, [EMAIL PROTECTED] MEDIA BRIEFING First-hand accounts of jail abuses of GOP protesters in Philadelphia Ann Harkness, arrested protester from Dallas, Texas, [EMAIL PROTECTED]: "After the arrest of my husband, my son, and myself I experienced a process of dehumanization that wouldn't even be fit for a murderer, rapist or armed robber. We were crammed into filthy, freezing cold cells with barely enough room to sit for as long as four days. "Much time was spent begging jail guards to acknowledge serious medical conditions, such as a suspected concussion, and broken arm. I saw hands swollen and completely immobile from restrictive hand-cuffing. An outspoken cell mate was hog-tied for many hours. By the time I left this situation I was stressed beyond anything I could have ever imagined. "Upon the return of our van we found it excessively mutilated - what looked like honey and Pepto-Bismol poured on the carpet, a game of tic-tac-toe in permanent marker covered the back of a seat, dismantled dashboard operations and the battery dead." Joe Bonham, arrested activist sexually assaulted in jail, [EMAIL PROTECTED]: "I was the man who had his penis grabbed and twisted. I was dragged nude by a couple of different Philadelphia Correctional Officers, whose badge numbers and names I didn't manage to get, on a couple of different occasions. My penis was grabbed and twisted by Officer Hendricks, the black female officer. I'm Joe Bonham and you can verify that with R2K Legal Support." Elliot Madison, R2K legal observer from Queens, New York, [EMAIL PROTECTED]: "I was one of the legal observers on Sunday, Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday. I was also a member of the R2K Network Legal Support Team and had the job of debriefing those released and documenting police/corrections officer abuses. I have been involved in protests and the Movement for over a decade and I must say I have never witnessed or heard of such torture of nonviolent protesters. "People told me they were hung crucifix-style from bars in flexi-cuffs. Some claim to have been left hog-tied (with flexi-cuffs) for 18 or more hours. Others had broken limbs including one broken arm and one girl had three broken fingers. I photographed a number of bruises, cuts, etc. on released protesters. "Detainees reported they were denied food and water for up to 32 hours and many also insist they were denied essential medication. I also witnessed a number of abuses on the streets including people being beaten, handcuffed folks being pepper sprayed, one young woman being beaten with police bicycles by 16 cops, and the list goes on and on. And those are only for those that complied and gave names and fingerprints . . . I shudder to think about the other prisoners in jail." Jamie Graham, R2K legal observer, Philadelphia, Pa. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: According to the Philadelphia Inquirer, his face had "several abrasions on it" and he "broke down and sobbed as he told his story." Graham was arrested on Wednesday afternoon near 12th and Race Streets as he walked to join protesters outside Police Headquarters. He said he was photographing a woman's arrest. To quote him from the story . . . "An officer knocked the camera out [of my hands], stomped on my face, and wedged my skull against the sidewalk. The officer said, 'I've been watching you for three days.'" Bork, an activist with the After Midnight Group, New York, N.Y., [EMAIL PROTECTED]: "Despite the irony that I was arrested at the Mayor's office trying to get medical care for our prisoners, I am one person out of many that was denied adequate medical care. I witnessed others, including the a girl named Kali and my cell mate Aurora, being abused by a multitude of correctional officers. I was kicked and shoved in the Roundhouse jail by two unknown officers. I had my fingers twisted by an Officer White while she threatened me that she would break them. She said she had already broken others' fingers. "I was told sexually degrading things like 'your pu**y stinks, you should be ashamed of it and keep your legs crossed.' I and my cell mate received death and harm threats from Philadelphia Correctional Officer Hendricks. My cell mate was chased around and intimidated for saying 'you can't threaten us that way' by a correctional officer with badge number 112 and a male officer. "Threats made to us included: 'Where we're taking you there aren't going to be any cameras and news helicopters to keep you safe. You can just disappear for good and
[CTRL] Fw: Phila. Police abuse protesters: stories; 9/16 hearings]
Note that the Pa. State Police infiltrated the puppeteers' warehouse site based on information from a right-wing private intelligence outfit funded in part by Richard Mellon Scaife, which *volunteered* the info on the "Communist" funding sources of the demonstrators to the State Police. Can INSCOM be far behind? - Original Message - From: "Phil Anthony" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: snipped Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 12:16 AM Subject: [Fwd: Phila. Police abuse protesters: stories; 9/16 hearings] Dear Friends, This is a long post, but important to read. I can personally vouch for the credibility of the person who sent it. Grace, peace - Phil. Helen Fields wrote: Folks, These are stories that I heard the week after the protests, and first told to the community by a young person I know who was in the prison at the time. I do not know Cliff Pearson.There are MANY stories of abuses, and I witnessed a few of the people's injuries when they were released. One was a girl of about 18, who had been in for several days. She was dazed, and needed a ride to the media center, to give them her story, before going to the emergency room. She said she had been beaten badly by the police when picked up (her face was badly bruised) and was in and out of consciousness for hours before they took her to the hospital. At the hospital, she reports she did not see a doctor (or doesn't remember it) and was taken back to prison, for several more days, and released after the RNC was over. The woman who was helping her, about my age, was also 'detained,' and also very badly bruised face and arms. Their courage and determination were astounding. I also walked with protesters for about three hours, on the last day before the prisoners were released. Before I even got to the protest site, I witnessed police harrassment of two young men who had been crossing the street, and the police were interrogating them one block from the protest site; I stood by listening, and was yelled at and told to leave immediately; I was told I was not allowed to stand on the street corner. It is interesting that the young men, who looked very civil and orderly and without the usual 'signs' of troublemakers (sic) were detained for about an hour for jaywalking, scared and intimidated by the police, and then released. This must have been how the Mayor's attache felt. You know, the Mayor of Philadelphia who was outraged that this happened to his employee and him in L.A.one week later; Mayor Street. John Street. I also witnessed an African=American elder (60-ish) wearing a zarapi and leather hat, looking alternative, get 'taken down' by two police officers, about ten feet in front of me, while walking with the protesters around the police station. Two other police officers had to hold back the first two, whose tempers were flaring for reasons I could not see or hear.Then about twenty police officers surrounded the elder, who was on the ground, but we couldn't see what was going on because the police moved him(still down on the ground) to the other side of a parked ABC news SUV, into the street. They had to divert traffic while they held him there. The ABC cameraman came up, jumped into his van and was videotaping the whole thing from the inside of his car. Did anyone see this on TV??? (sic) Next about one hundred protesters gathered around the activity screaming "The whole world is watching. The whole world is watching." helicopters hovered above, police in riot gear formed on the next corner, and it was quite intense. Then the police moved as a group with the elder to the other side of the street, where several people were waiting for the bus. The man was standing at this point, the bus arrived, and when the bus left, the police had dispersed, the man was standing alone, and protesters were crossing the street to see what happened to him. I met him later, in the circle of protesters walking around the police station block, and asked him what they did. According to him, they had searched his backpack and taken jet printer cartridges which he had just bought. He said they were worth about $25 each. He did not say why he had them, but he said he had already spoken to the one legal observer who was left in the demonstration. I spoke to the legal observer, a young man in law school, who said there had been several other legal observers earlier in the week, but they had been beaten and jailed, so others had left rather than be subjected to the same treatment. They all wore 3" buttons that said, "Legal Observer" on them. He said he was so overloaded with people needing his attention that he was unable to meet the needs at the moment. I (Helen Fields) will be at the Courthouse on Filbert St. on Saturday morning, delivering the family of one protester to his hearing;I will be acting
Re: [CTRL] Kurds Away
Iraq has become nothing more than a live-fire training range for U.S. and British pilots, the Middle Eastern counterpart to Vieques. I suspect that we have been paying Saddam Hussein under the table to keep refusing to accept U.N. arms inspectors for the precise purpose of maintaining this very useful facility... Washington and London don't care about the suffering of the Iraqi people any more than does Saddam himself. - Original Message - From: "Alamaine" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 5:27 PM Subject: [CTRL] Kurds Away From NewsMax.com }}Begin U.S. Ready to Strike Iraq, Report Says UPI Wednesday, Sept. 6, 2000 WASHINGTON - The United States is prepared to respond with a military strike if Iraq attacks the minority Kurdish population in northern Iraq this fall, CNN reported Tuesday. The report quoted Pentagon sources as saying the U.S. military is ready for at least three days of intense strikes against Iraq in such a scenario. snip A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: Out on the left coast
- Original Message - From: "Larry Petkov" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [address list snipped] Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 12:30 AM Subject: [July30] Out on the left coast July 30 in Philly - www.unity2000.com Why Nader country might count The Green Party won't win the White House, but it could sway enough voters here to change who does. Brad Knickerbocker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor MEDFORD, ORE. Do you think that Nader will have any impact on Gore's campaign? Talk about it. It's called the "upper left coast" - that 800-mile stretch from San Francisco Bay to Puget Sound. And along with its spectacular scenery, it probably has more political progressives per square mile than any place this side of Harvard Square. This is Ralph Nader country, the region where the fiery consumer advocate and Green Party presidential candidate - although he has virtually no chance of winning the White House - could make all the difference in who does. "A year ago it was a whisper in the wind," says Tim Hermach, an environmental activist in Eugene, Ore. "Now I hear a rumble, and come November it could be a shout." Why the Nader attraction up here? For one thing, there's a history of labor and social activism going back more than a century. This quadrant of the American geopolitical landscape is synonymous with free speech (Berkeley), the remnants of hippiedom (Humboldt County in northern California), overt dissent (the World Trade Organization meeting in Seattle), today's version of anarchism (Eugene, Ore.), and environmental activism throughout. There's also a tradition of maverick politicians from Wayne Morse to Tom McCall to Mark Hatfield to the majority on today's Seattle City Council, who are members of the Green Party. While 19 percent of the country was going for Ross Perot in '92, the diminutive Texas billionaire was winning more than one-fourth of the presidential vote in this part of the country. "Perot was a bit of a fascist, but at least he was talking common-man talk," says Mr. Hermach. Nader's message of environmental protection, social justice, and grass-roots democracy resonates with many here - particularly those who see little difference between "compassionate conservative" Republicans, buffing a more centrist image, and the predominant New Democrats, who have shifted their party rightward. "Back in 1992, I was really excited about Al Gore," says Washington State activist and author David Korten. "My wife and I sent him a substantial campaign contribution and talked up his candidacy with our friends." But today, Mr. Korten told the Green Party convention in June, "we are Greens because we are no longer willing to be manipulated by a political system in which the Republicrats present us with a nonchoice among candidates bought and paid for with corporate money." Dan Hamburg, a former Democratic member of Congress from northern California who switched to being Green, echoes many Nader supporters when he says, "I'm tired of the Democratic Party taking us for granted." Gore may have gotten a post-convention bounce in the polls, but with Nader running a full-blown campaign this year (as opposed to his desultory effort in 1996), the vice president could be in trouble out here. Political analyst Charles Cook includes Oregon and Washington as among the dozen states "too close to call." "In closer presidential contests, like this one,... tiny states, which carry disproportional weight in the Electoral College, become a factor," he says. "It's tempting to completely dismiss [Reform Party hopeful Patrick] Buchanan, and for that matter, Green Party candidate Ralph Nader as insignificant factors in this race. But if this is going to be a really close race, small things could be important." Still, some observers throw a spray of cold, north Pacific water on the Nader phenomenon. Citing the historical record of other left-wing candidates such as Henry Wallace in 1948 and Eugene McCarthy 20 years later, Oregon State University political scientist William Lunch says, "It's an interesting phenomenon which will dissipate and go away as we get closer to the election." "In the short run, this is fun and it's a nice diversion," he adds. "But in the long run, it's a footnote to our real politics." For the moment, however, the Nader movement is very much abuzz in the Pacific Northwest. This past weekend, Mr. Nader packed a political rally in Portland. More than 10,000 people paid $7 each to attend, a larger group than any that has come out to see either George Bush or Al Gore - including their conventions. Nader's running mate is a big draw in this part of the country as well. She's Winona LaDuke, a native American author and activist from Minnesota who grew up in Ashland, Ore., graduated from Harvard in economics, and in 1994 was named by Time magazine as one of America's 50 most-promising young leaders. Many supporters feel as Steve Traisman of Ashland
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [RMNEWS] HARVESTABLE CHINESE IN AFRICA???
The more likely explanation for the Chinese "invasion" of Africa is the one Stratfor put forward last week: this is a ploy by the Beijing oligarchs to divert the attention and energy of the PLA to activities outside of China proper, to make either a coup d'etat or further bureaucratic imperialism by the essentially autonomous separate elements of the PLA less likely in the near term. How much of this is tied in with increased Chinese trade with the U.S., and whether there's any connection to Clinton's Africa trip, God only knows... - Original Message - From: "Kris Millegan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 1:42 PM Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: [RMNEWS] HARVESTABLE CHINESE IN AFRICA??? As always, . . . Om K A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Charred, Barren Land is Clinton's Environmental Legacy in our National Forests
The REAL culprit is an economic system that regards the forests as resources to be exploited rather than as our global heritage, to be preserved and protected. The National Forest System was created to be a source of timber in a country whose land had been ninety percent logged off by 1900. While the reforestation of North America is perhaps the single greatest environmental success story of the 20th century (there is more land under forest east of the Mississippi than there was in 1776), that reforestation was undertaken under false pretenses. The purpose of the forests, as created by Gifford Pinchot and Theodore Roosevelt, was not recreational hunting, or atmospheric regeneration, or anything else that we associate the national forests with today...it was the pursuit of profit, pure and simple. That harvesting of the new timber for profit was delayed was due only to the unfortunate fact that the damn trees didn't grow fast enough. Sure, blame Clinton--but also blame Bush, Reagan, Carter, Ford, Nixon, Johnson, Kennedy, Eisenhower, Truman, Roosevelt, Hoover, Coolidge, Harding, Wilson, and Cleveland, not to mention Georgia Pacific, Weyerhaeuser, and Home Depot, because the fault lies ultimately in the system itself and its underlying philosophy. - Original Message - From: "MICHAEL SPITZER" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 11:14 AM Subject: [CTRL] Charred, Barren Land is Clinton's "Environmental Legacy" in our National Forests From: http://www.originalsources.com/OS8-00MQC/8-25-2000.1.html Charred, Barren Land is Clinton's "Environmental Legacy" in our National Forests High Severity Fires Destroying Millions of Acres Due to Clinton Logging Policies snip A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Report: Violent Entertainment Aimed At Young
I had an eye-opening discussion with my 18-year-old niece the other day about *American Beauty*. As regulars on this list will remember, my reaction to the movie was that it was possibly the most perverse, not to say perverted, film I had ever seen. My niece's reaction was very different. She said that the experience of the kids in the movie spoke totally to her own experience and that of her peers. I'm wondering just how much of this culture clash between parents and Hollywood/record industry/video game industry/etc. is generational--our kids have different values than we do, which is after all only to be expected. No, I'm not ruling out mind control, subliminal manipulation, or the other games the Oligarchs play...BUT we need to consider how much of our problem with the entertainment industry is OUR problem, not our children's problem. (Please note, I DO NOT WANT to reopen the discussion of *American Beauty*. If anyone responds to my post, please focus on the broader issues. I've said all I'm going to say about that particular film.) - Original Message - From: "Tenorlove" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 8:13 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Report: Violent Entertainment Aimed At Young A poll conducted by the FTC showed parents, understandably, wanted more information about the content of movies beyond what is now provided by the Motion Picture Association of America's rating system. Even the so-called "G" rated movies contain way too much violence and sex. Both Pocahontas and The Little Mermaid had sex-goddess figures. Was that REALLY necessary in a children's movie? What does that tell our little girls? And children in fashion magazines and catalogs are seen in sexy poses, with way too much makeup, and glassy-eyed stares (drugs? Mind control?). It's really sad that the media sees this need to force children to grow up too fast. And people wonder why we have gangs, school shootings, and 13 year olds having babies, not to mention a total lack of civility in our society. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] On Wormwood, Methane, and Meteors
While recognizing that Revelation is so convoluted and extended an allegory that untangling its allusions is probably an impossible task, I might suggest that a very good candidate for Wormwood would be the combination of an oceanic meteorite strike combined with release of methane clathrate from the seabed. The meteor is not required for a disaster, however--there's evidence of natural release of methane and other submarine gases, causing landslips, tsunamis, and climate changes in the gelogically recent past. AND the possibility of offshore oil and mineral exploration triggering a release of the clathrate is very real. I'm going to post some more material on this shortly, but if anyone has any thoughts and/or information along these lines, I'd be glad to see them either on or off the list. (Note: for a well-written and well-researched fictional account of possible effects of massive methane release, see John Barnes, *Mother of Storms* [1994].) Bob Robert F. TatmanInformation Technology Consultant[EMAIL PROTECTED]Jenkintown, PA, USA*Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.*
[CTRL] MSNBC: 2 die in shooting at Arkansas college
http://www.msnbc.com/msn/452218.asp 2 die in shooting at Arkansas college Murder-suicide casts pall over first day of classes at university MSNBC News Services FAYETTEVILLE, Ark., Aug. 28 - Two people died Monday in a murder-suicide at the University of Arkansas on the first day of classes, school officials said. The university's chancellor said the dead were believed to be a professor and a graduate student. 'We're trying to deal with a situation that seems horrific and trying to control everything we can and bring this to resolution as quickly as possible.' Roger Williams University spokesman UNIVERSITY OFFICIALS did not identify the victims, both men, who died in the shooting in a second-floor faculty office in the university's Kimpel Hall, a seven-story building that also contains classrooms. There were no injuries, they said. "We believe the two persons killed are a faculty member and a graduate student, but that remains to be confirmed," Chancellor John White said in a statement. A local television station identified one of the victims as John Locke, an English professor at the school, and said he was killed by a gun-wielding student. Callers reporting the shooting said they heard three gunshots. Police rushed to the scene and surrounded the office as they evacuated students from the building. University police Lt. Gary Crane said later that the situation had been "stabilized," and that no search was under way for a suspect or accomplice. Few other details were immediately available. "We're trying to deal with a situation that seems horrific and trying to control everything we can and bring this to resolution as quickly as possible," spokesman Roger Williams said prior to the chancellor's brief statement. Kimpel Hall houses faculty in a number of departments, including communication, drama, English, foreign languages and journalism. Journalism department Chairwoman Patsy Watkins said police arrived at the building at 12:20 p.m. local time, when many of the 50- to 60-student classrooms on the floor would have been filled. Students left the building in an orderly fashion, saying they had been told to leave, Watkins said. "All we've been told is that shots have been fired," Watkins said. Journalism faculty members Larry Foley and Robert Carey said police had asked them to leave their first-floor offices. Kimpel Hall is shaped like a T, with classrooms along the long end of the T and offices across the crossbar. The 15,000-student campus is in the northwest part of the state. Both President Bill Clinton and first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton taught law there in the mid-1970s. The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this report. ©2000 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. Robert F. Tatman Information Technology Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jenkintown, PA, USA *Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.* A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Endless bullshit from
The only thing that trickles down from mansions on hilltops is raw sewage... - Original Message - From: "Johannes Schmidt III" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 4:43 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Endless bullshit from On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 20:15:49 -0400 Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 8/24/00 The modern economist is the equivalent of the ancient shaman. If anything sensible comes out of the mumbo jumbo, it is purely coincidental. I like the 'trickle down' effect. That's where all the rich people tend to live in big houses on top of hills, and all the poor people ive in the low-lying areas. Now becasue the rich people have so much money, invariably they will drop some of it, the wind will blow it away etc and it will 'trickle down' to the poor people. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: Evangelism Outlawed -- Proposed French Law
In one of his books, the late Robert A. Heinlein had a character observe that "evangelism consists of beating your words into a man's ears until they come out of his mouth." That could equally well apply to advertising, which is after all part of the evangelical apparatus of corporate capitalism...and which could also be described perfectly well as capitalist mind control. - Original Message - From: "William Shannon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fw: Evangelism Outlawed -- Proposed French Law In a message dated 8/27/00 1:43:55 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PARIS, France (BP) July 3 -- Missionaries and laypersons who share their faith in Jesus could be imprisoned for up to two years under a proposed French law that accuses religious proselytisers of 'mental manipulation' of the public. Well it IS a form of mental manipulation...but then again so is advertising...is it utopian to want a society free from both?? Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Alex Constantine v. David Horowitz
Before I consign flw to the "Blocked Senders" list, I have to observe that he is clearly a victim of capitalist mind control, which can always be identified by the knee-jerk response of its victims to anything even vaguely seeming to attack The Marketplace. - Original Message - From: "flw" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Alex Constantine v. David Horowitz flw wrote: snip I have to give credit its due though. J2 does make some (limited) sense when he exposes Corporatism. However like all Leftists, he suffers from terminal Cognitive Dissonance. flw A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mission Possible
YES, June! I was about to post a specific request to EVERYONE on the list (Birds, are you listening??) to PLEASE post in *text format only*. Not only does posting in HTML waste bandwidth and slow downloading, as well as make such messages inaccessible to listmembers who don't have HTML-capable e-mail, BUT it also makes everyone who opens (or even just receives) such messages vulnerable to the new VB worm viruses like the "Love Bug." Users of programs such as Outlook Express (like me!), who have the option of displaying the message in a preview pane, run the risk of infection from such messages *without even opening them*. PLEASE, people, show a little common sense, as well as some consideration for the rest of us. TO REPEAT: Please post all messages *in text format only*. Thank you. Bob - Original Message - From: "Ynr Chyldz Wyld" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Mission Possible Shouldn't there be some sort of rule barring such waste of bandwidth on this list? June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] No Mention: Classified Material Gone?
And wasn't it convenient that a U.S. Navy carrier task group just *happened* to be in port when this "accident" took place? More questions: why did the plane circle the airport twice and then suddenly plunge into the ocean? Why was there no mention by the aircraft's crew of any problems in their communications with the controllers? And a biggie: why was the presence of the (unnamed) courier on the Gulf Air plane announced only AFTER the dispatch of a team from the U.S. National Traffic Safety Board (otherwise known as the Flight 800 Coverup Team)? And another biggie: couriers normally *handcuff* their "pouches" (usually briefcases of some kind) to their wrists, and don't unlock them--sometimes *can't* unlock them--until they reach their destinations. The only ways, therefore, in which this particular courier could have lost his pouch with the classified material would have been: (1) he unlocked the handcuff himself before the crash; (2) the force of the crash tore the pouch off of his arm, presumably tearing his hand or arm off in the process; or (3) SOMEONE removed the pouch from the courier's body while the body was still in the water and before the body had officially been "recovered." - Original Message - From: "A.C. Szul Jr." [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 8:02 AM Subject: [CTRL] No Mention: Classified Material Gone? Airbus with 143 on board crashes snipOne passenger was believed to be an American. A State Department official in Washington said Bahraini officials had informed them that a boarding pass indicated that a U.S. diplomatic courier was aboard. The courier's name was not immediately released.snip http://www.washtimes.com/world/default-20008242212.htm That's all? No mention of the classified material that "courier" was allegedly carrying? Why was he/she on that flight carrying supposedly classified material? Why can't divers find that material? What was that classified info all about? (Again, under a Clinton/Gore administration, more secrets are out?!) And, naturally, does the presence of that courier on the ill-fated Airbus flight possibly have anything to do with it "crashing"? -A A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] A B A L K A N E N C O U N T E R: The Elders of Zion
And, as Henry Kissinger observed, even paranoids have enemies... I'm not buying into the Elders of Zion crap, of course. But in my own experience, sometimes a healthy sense of paranoia is a decided survival trait, not least in the corporate world. - Original Message - From: "nessie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] A B A L K A N E N C O U N T E R: The Elders of Zion snip It is often not possible to determine sufficiency and justification until after the fact. The main thing about paranoia is that you only have to be right once, and it all pays off. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Global Freshwater Scarcity: Is Privatization a Solution?
-- Kris Christen is an assistant editor for EST. --- - **Rate of water utility privatization worldwide Water utilities have been privatizing at an increasing rate over the past 10 years, but private utilities still constitute only a small percentage of the water supply and sanitation market. Of the $70-$80 billion invested in the water sector annually, no more than 5% comes from private investors, according to the Global Water Partnership, an international network of stakeholders in water resources management. Moreover, the market is dominated by just eight major players, the three largest basedin France, and the remaining five based in the United Kingdom. In England and Wales, the water and wastewater infrastructure, as well as the water resources, is completely privatized. Most systems are based on the French model, however, in which local authorities retain ownership of the water resources and infrastructure but bring in private contractors to operate and build new facilities. This approach works best in countries with good governance, good laws, and no corruption, which is not the situation in most developing countries, said John Briscoe, senior World Bank water adviser. Because private operators are most interested in consumers with relatively high incomes, most private sector investment in infrastructure has occurred in Latin America and southeast Asia, Briscoe said. Latin America has been particularly conducive to privatization because of large-scale urbanization that requires an extensive infrastructure, as well as governments' efforts to adopt laws facilitating the liberalization of their economies, noted Alain Mathys, project director in Lyonnaise des Eaux's technology and research division. Likewise, the governments of Indonesia, the Philippines, and Thailand have adopted regulatory frameworks to enhance democratization and the development of their economies. Privatization in Africa, on the other hand, is the least advanced, Mathys said, because of the lack of laws giving private investors some kind of guarantee that they will see a return on their investments. In the United States, roughly 95% of water and wastewater utilities are run by municipalities, but more cities are looking at privatization as a potential option, according to Lou Ann Baker of United Water Services, one of the largest investor-owned water services companies in the United States. Most of the U.S. water infrastructure is aging and in need of costly repairs or replacement. With chronic funding gaps, some local governments are betting on the private sector to bring their systems back into compliance and keep rates down. [See pie chart at http://pubs.acs.org/subscribe/journals/esthag-a/34/i15/html/08christ.sbr.html] [Non-text material has been snipped.] - Robert F. Tatman Information Technology Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jenkintown, PA, USA *Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.* A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] GREENLAND ICE SHEET CHANGES ARE NORMAL; NO EVIDENCE OF LONG-TERM CLIMATE CHANGES
August 23, 2000 Contact: Jason L. Jenkins Information Specialist (573) 882-6217 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://web.missouri.edu/~news/releases/icesheet.html EMBARGOED FOR RELEASE, 2 P.M. EASTERN TIME, AUGUST 23, 2000 GREENLAND ICE SHEET CHANGES ARE NORMAL; NO EVIDENCE OF LONG-TERM CLIMATE CHANGES, RESEARCHERS SAY COLUMBIA, Mo. - Almost three years ago, Curt Davis, a researcher at the University of Missouri-Columbia, discovered that some areas of the southern Greenland ice sheet varied dramatically in elevation over a 10-year period. An extensive study by a team of scientists, including Davis, has now found that normal weather patterns are the cause, not any long-term climate changes such as global warming. In a paper that will appear in the Aug. 24 edition of Nature, Davis and his co investigators will report that changes in the ice sheet's upper elevations, areas above 6,000 feet, are caused by natural variations in snow accumulation over time. "When we released our original findings, they were somewhat controversial," said Davis, an associate professor of electrical engineering who has been using remote-sensing satellites to study changes in the ice sheet since 1990. "Our data indicated that overall, the ice sheet was maintaining a constant elevation, but we found great variability over short distances, with substantial thickening in some areas and strong thinning in other areas." Shortly after his study was released, Davis and a group of researchers led by Joe McConnell, an associate research professor at the Desert Research Institute in Reno, Nev., joined together to investigate the cause of the variability in elevation. Using ice cores, each 45 to 400 feet deep, that were collected from 12 locations around the southern Greenland ice sheet above 6,000 feet, the researchers measured variations in the concentrations of dust and chemical compounds such as hydrogen peroxide, calcium and ammonium. The researchers used this analysis to determine the amount of snow that accumulated each year over the time span of the cores. "Analyzing ice cores is similar to studying tree rings," Davis said. "Just as the distance between a tree's rings represents its growth that year, the amount of ice between layers of certain compounds indicates that year's accumulation in that location." Ice core analysis and modeling revealed that areas where elevation changed dramatically had a corresponding variation in snowfall during the study period. Further analysis indicated these snowfall variations were consistent with natural fluctuations over decades. This proves the elevation changes across southern Greenland that Davis discovered in his earlier study were not unusual. Just last month, two other studies were reported that support Davis and his co investigators' findings. These studies also found that, overall, the ice sheet's upper elevations were relatively stable. However, one of these studies found that most of the lower elevations of the ice sheet were thinning rapidly, with rates exceeding three feet a year in some locations along the edges. "Although there doesn't appear to be any changes in southern Greenland's upper elevations that can be associated with global warming, dramatic lower elevation thinning has been documented," Davis said. "While this thinning seems to have had no effect on the upper elevations so far, more study is needed to determine its cause and the possible impact on the ice sheet's contribution to sea-level rise in the future." Other universities who participated in the study include: the University of Washington, Ohio State University, the University of Arizona and the University of Nebraska. Funding was provided by grants from NASA and the National Science Foundation. -30- Robert F. Tatman Information Technology Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jenkintown, PA, USA *Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.* A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [E
[CTRL] Robots Rule OK?
my summer trip criss-crossing America, I saw one of the wittiest advertisements I've ever seen. A billboard sign just outside Philadelphia said in huge letters: "Go Ahead. Pick Your Nose". The message was followed in small print by the name of the advertiser: Gehry's Cosmetic Surgery. It won't be long before we're picking more than just our noses. And within a few decades, it is just possible that our noses may be picking us. ------------ Robert F. Tatman Information Technology Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jenkintown, PA, USA *Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.* A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Does homoeopathy have a therapeutic effect?
Recent attempts to resolve the controversy surrounding homoeopathy have resulted in over 180 clinical trials to date. Against this background, and combined with results of three similar studies, these findings further strengthen the evidence that homoeopathy shows some therapeutic effect over placebo, say the authors. In an accompanying commentary, Tim Lancaster at the Institute of Health Sciences in Oxford and Andrew Vickers at the Sloane-Kettering Cancer Centre in New York emphasise the importance of high quality randomised trials in the evaluation of homoeopathy. They suggest that the new challenge "is to do the large trials that really could change thinking." --- http://www.eurekalert.org/releases/BMJ.966430211.html EMBARGOED FOR RELEASE: 17 AUGUST 2000 AT 19:00 ET US Contact: Emma Wilkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 44-20-7383-6529 BMJ-British Medical Journal Does homoeopathy have a therapeutic effect? Paper: Randomised controlled trial of homoeopathy versus placebo in perennial allergic rhinitis with overview of four trial series Commentary: Larger trials are needed Much scepticism exists about the effectiveness of homoeopathy, but the time may have come to confront the idea that homoeopathic treatment differs from placebo - a chemically inert substance given in place of a drug - according a new study published in this week's BMJ. Researchers in Glasgow randomly treated 50 patients suffering from nasal allergies with either a homoeopathic preparation or placebo. Each day, for four weeks, patients measured their nasal air flow and recorded symptoms such as blocked, runny or itchy nose, sneezing and eye irritation. Both groups reported improvement in symptoms but, on average, patients who received homoeopathy had significantly greater improvement in nasal air flow - 28% compared with 3% among those in the placebo group. Recent attempts to resolve the controversy surrounding homoeopathy have resulted in over 180 clinical trials to date. Against this background, and combined with results of three similar studies, these findings further strengthen the evidence that homoeopathy shows some therapeutic effect over placebo, say the authors. In an accompanying commentary, Tim Lancaster at the Institute of Health Sciences in Oxford and Andrew Vickers at the Sloane-Kettering Cancer Centre in New York emphasise the importance of high quality randomised trials in the evaluation of homoeopathy. They suggest that the new challenge "is to do the large trials that really could change thinking." ### Contacts: [Paper] David Reilly, Academic Departments, Glasgow Homoeopathic Hospital, Glasgow G12 0XQ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Commentary] Tim Lancaster, Clinical Reader in General Practice, Department of Primary Health Care, Institute of Health Sciences, Oxford OX3 7LF Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------ Robert F. Tatman Information Technology Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jenkintown, PA, USA *Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.* A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: UNC6@egroups Deletion Appeal
More Internet censorship, of a particularly chilling variety... - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 2:06 PM Subject: [July30] UNC6@egroups Deletion Appeal July 30 in Philly - www.unity2000.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: UNC6 group [#4765657] Date: 8/22/00 5:55:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Group Owner: Your group (UNC6) has been deleted for violating eGroups' Terms of Service. It is against the eGroups Terms of Service to use our service to send "spam," which is unsolicited email. If you send spam, we will delete your group and deactivate your account. We may also pursue legal damages. Our Terms of Service also prohibit the following, which are often associated with spam: -Subscribing members without their consent -Chain letters -Pyramid schemes -"Get Rich Quick" or "Make Money Fast" (MMF) schemes -Advertise-anything groups -Using or promoting software designed to harvest e-mail addresses *Note: These are merely examples. eGroups customer support retains the right to delete, at our discretion, groups who send spam or violate our Terms of Service. In addition, all eGroups members must abide by our Member Guidelines. If you feel this was done incorrectly please contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Regards, Abuse Department, eGroups, Inc. Dear Sir or Lady or Sirs or Ladies: [EMAIL PROTECTED] consists of people in government and religious movements whose stated public service goals include an end to poverty. The issue here is whether news of a campaign for a United Nations Declaration that could end poverty by setting up an parallel interest- free banking system is useless unwanted material: spam. That 17,000 world political leaders have remained subscribers to this uninvited public servants' listserv must be evidence that the importance of the UNILETS anti-poverty system proposed in the Millennium Declaration C6 is being taken seriously by them and cannot therefore qualify as spam to those who are still voluntarily subscribed. In my messages I have stressed that I think this surprise chance to end poverty on the whole planet once and for all warranted my intrusion into their mailboxes without an invitation in much the same way a man who is coming to tell you that your house is on fire might not ring the doorbell but try to get your attention by shouting right through your door: "Fire and I know where there's a firehose." I have not received more than a few dozen actual complaints though my rudeness at demanding their attention was often commented upon as some unsubscribed. Yet, as public servants, they can have no expectation of privacy in the dissemination of information vital to their areas of public service. My earliest signed-up politicians have remained subscribed for all the messages in the last month though it's not like there's been a deluge. Only a dozen from me and a senator from Australia and a doctor from Uganda. Can such messages truly be treated as spam when dealing with this current UN event? And there have been new members who have heard about the firehose and subscribed to unc6-egroups.com on their own. I think these members should be informed of why the egroup they subscribed to is now no longer there and perhaps given the chance to resubscribe. Their rights should also be considered rather than only those of the few complaints from mainly non-members about a 1-click intrusion in this once in a millennium campaign. I would never have have intruded this way had I not honestly believed that UNILETS is the best chance to put out the planet's financial fires we've ever going to have. Poverty is killing people around the world and at home and putting impediments in the way of a proven "Anti-poverty" system lifeboat may be judged a cardinal sin. One bureaucrat from a Ministry in Norway requested that I stop writing to the everyone else in the Norway government. Perhaps if the Prime Minister had asked but certainly, one functionary who may not be as quick to grasp the importance of the issue has no right to do the thinking for them all and request that others who have chosen not to unsubcribe have this information interrupted. And over 90% of all the politicians including those from Norway were still subscribed despite my lack of Netiquette. This upcoming Millennium Assembly has the plans for peace and prosperity on the agenda. A really important matter. I think all these Prime Ministers, Presidents, Ministers, Members of Parliament and National and Provincial Assemblies and political parties around the world and new members are the ones who should get to decide whether the information about UNC6 UNILETS that I admit I've shoved down their throats is spam or manna from heaven. I'm offering them, their friends, their businesses, their world a planet-wide
[CTRL] Fw: BTL 9/1/00 Weekly Summary
- Original Message - From: "Between The Lines" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 8:51 AM Subject: [July30] BTL 9/1/00 Weekly Summary July 30 in Philly - www.unity2000.com BETWEEN THE LINES WEEKLY SUMMARY = "Between The Lines" is a weekly radio newsmagazine which offers timely, in-depth interviews with progressive activists engaged in the fight for a more just world. This four-time Associated Press award-winning program covers political and economic topics, and provides our listeners with the information they need to join today's growing social justice movement. Below you'll find a summary of topics and guests covered in this week's program, as well as a link to this week's program in RealAudio on our Web site. NEW: We have begun beta-testing Between The Lines in broadcast-quality, MP3 file format. Audio and print subscription information can be found at the end of this summary. **Please pass the work of these activists in this summary along to your friends and colleagues! ** == FOR THE WEEK ENDING Sept. 1, 2000 This week we present Between The Lines' summary of under-reported news stories and: (1)Party Conventions Now Expensive Infomercials with Little Media Scrutiny Interview by Scott Harris. Syndicated columnist Norman Solomon, assesses the Republican and Democratic party nominating conventions and corporate media's lack of critical coverage of these political extravaganzas. Norman Solomon's weekly "Media Beat" column can be found on the Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting Web site (www.fair.org) at www.fair.org/media-beat/index.html. (2) Arrested Ruckus Society Director Condemns Police Crackdown on Direct Action Protests Interview by Scott Harris. John Sellers, director of the California-based Ruckus Society, trains activists in direct action techniques. Sellers talks about his arrest during the GOP convention in Philadelphia, where he was accused of being a facilitator of violence and mayhem and held on $1 million bond, later reduced to $100,000. Contact the Ruckus Society by calling (510) 848-9565 or visit their Web site at www.ruckus.org (3) Independent Media Centers a Voice for Global Social Justice Movement Interview by Scott Harris. Alan Minsky, is general coordinator of the Los Angeles Independent Media Center, which covered the Democratic Party Convention. He discusses the philosophy behind the IMCs, which have been launched in more than two dozen major cities on four continents since last winter's Seattle World Trade Organization protests. Visit IMC Web sites across the globe at: www.indymedia.org This week's summary of under-reported news Compiled from alternative media sources by Bob Nixon Critics say transferring juvenile defendants to adult courts and jails creates more criminal recidivism. (The Boston Globe, Focus Section: July 2, 2000) Al Gore's populist rhetoric undermined by his conservative economic policies.(The Nation, Aug. 21-28, 2000) Colombia is the most dangerous place on earth to be a trade union activist. (In These Times: May 15, 2000) This week's program in Real Audio: http://www.btlonline.org For AOL users: a HREF="http://www.btlonline.org"Click here!/a (Needs RealPlayer G2, 7 or 8) AUDIO INFORMATION: "Between The Lines" is a half-hour syndicated radio news magazine that each week features a summary of under-reported news stories and interviews with activists and journalists who offer progressive perspectives on international, national and regional political, economic and social issues. Because "Between The Lines" is independent of all publications, media networks or political parties, we are able to bring a diversity of voices to the airwaves generally ignored or marginalized by the major media. Check out our text archive listing topics and guests presented in previous programs: http://www.btlonline.org Contact Scott Harris at (203)544-9863 or email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more information on how to subscribe via tape/CD delivery, free MP3 download or Pacifica Radio Network satellite feed. PRINT INFORMATION: "Between The Lines QA," a weekly print column of selected interview excerpts, is now available to AlterNet member publications through AlterNet, the "world's only syndication service for alternative and independent content." See AlterNet's Web site at http://www.alternet.org. "Between The Lines QA" is also available to non-AlterNet members. For an email subscription of "Between The Lines QA," which features a weekly "Between The Lines" interview excerpt, write [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[CTRL] Fw: How Long Will Current Movements Rise??
- Original Message - From: "Carol at Secession.net" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "July 30 in Philly" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "P DAG" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 12:31 PM Subject: [July30] How Long Will Current Movements Rise?? July 30 in Philly - www.unity2000.com at least until the sunspot cycle wanes ... :-) Notice how the people worldwide are rising and demonstrating -- again?? As they did in 1989 -- and 1979 -- and 1968. Is it just a coincidence that so much organizing and rebelling happens at the height of the eleven year sunspot cycle? Get the real scoop, check out SUNSPOT CYCLES AND ACTIVIST STRATEGY. Lots of data and graphs and strategizing. http://www.secession.net/sunspot-article.html To see what those sunspots have been up to for last month or so, check out: http://dxlc.com/solar/ __ To unsubscribe, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Start Your Own FREE Email List at http://www.listbot.com/links/joinlb A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Clinton to attend United Nations Millennium Summit
- Original Message - From: "MICHAEL SPITZER" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 7:14 PM Subject: [CTRL] Clinton to attend United Nations Millennium Summit [Check the last paragraph! Our "Founding Fathers" are turming over in their graves:( --MS] Hmm...looks like they patterned this thing after the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia in 1786, which was completely sequestered from the public. The Founding Fathers even went so far as to close and lock all the doors and windows to Carpenters' Hall and cover all windows with heavy drapes to rule out any possibility of someone hearing or seeing what was being deliberated inside. The Founding Fathers, for the most part, did not trust the "mobile faction," to use Alexander Hamilton's phrase... WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House said on Tuesday that President Clinton will attend next month's U.N. Millennium Summit in New York, an event billed as the largest-ever gathering of heads of state. Clinton will be attending the signing of a peace treaty in Burundi next week, I believe, following his state visit to Nigeria; apparently he wants at least *one* peace treaty under his belt by the time he leaves office. I begin to suspect that he is angling to become U.N. Secretary General when Kofi Annan steps down. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: 2 Articles from Fabel van de Illegaal
- Original Message - From: "Tom Burghardt" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 9:18 PM Subject: [AFIB] 2 Articles from Fabel van de Illegaal __ ANTIFA INFO-BULLETIN News * Analysis * Research * Action __ RESEARCH SUPPLEMENT - August 22, 2000 - __ "THE NATIONAL ISSUE IN THE YEAR 2000" "ATTAC'S OPEN FLANK" 2 Articles from De Fabel van de Illegaal __ DE FABEL VAN DE ILLEGAAL [The Myth of Illegality] Koppenhinksteeg 2 2312 HX Leiden, Netherlands Tel: +31-71-5127619 or 5144217 Fax: +31-71-5134907 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.dsl.nl/lokabaal/english.htm http://www.savanne.ch/right-left.en - Monday, 21 August 2000 - - THE NATIONAL ISSUE IN THE YEAR 2000 The Dutch version of his article was published in the Summer 2000 issue of the anti-racist newspaper of De Fabel van de illegaal By Koen van de Meulen Around 1900 an international debate took place on "the national issue". What should the Left-wing movement do with the fast-rising nationalism? Was this strongly mobilising ideology a threat to the theory of socialism or could it be a possibility to enhance the power base of the Left ideology? Almost a century later this issue seems more of current interest than ever. Developments like the nationalist wars in the Balkans and the growth of the far Right ask for a Leftist answer. After the disappearance of the "real existing socialism" (read: dictatorial state capitalism) with its Marxist-Leninist ideology, which postulated the principle of "every nation its own state", now there is a chance to sharpen radical Left ideology in an anti-nationalist direction. Over the past year the Dutch radical Left organisation De Fabel van de illegaal paid much attention to (far) Right influences in Left-wing campaigns. Criticism of nationalism played an important role in this. De Fabel criticized for example Kurdish and Basque liberation nationalism. Lately, a discussion has arisen with reference to nationalist elements in the campaign for the imprisoned Basque activist Esteban Murillo. Murillo has been accused of taking part in actions by the ETA, and despite a support campaign, he was handed over by the Dutch state to Spain, although it was proven that the Spanish state tortured Murillo. The discussion centres on the question if anything like a "good" Leftist nationalism really exists. Nations and nationalism "Nations do not make states and nationalism, but the other way round". Says the British historian Eric Hobsbawm in his book "Nation and Nationalism since 1780". In this book he describes the origin and development of the notions of "nation" and nationalism. With this he builds on the work of Gellner and Anderson who have written extensively about the myths of "nation" and nationalism. "Nationalism is not the awakening of nations to self-consciousness: it invents nations where they do not exist", writes Gellner. They assume that "nations" and also "peoples" are not natural, but that they are created. As opposed to what nationalists want us to believe, "nations" and "peoples" are not the pivots in the history of mankind. Until 200 years ago people could barely conceive the idea of a "nation". They mostly felt connected to their own family, village or city, guild and social rank, least of all to an abstract community like a "nation". Therefore it is difficult to give a definition of the notion of "nation", for the meaning of this word has changed through time. Where it meant simply "people" at the time of the French Revolution, just in the meaning of the inhabitants of a territory, "nation" was later defined in connection to factors like "ethnicity", language and culture. This last meaning is also the one that the concept of "nation" has in this article. Patriotic nationalism At the end of the eighteenth and during the nineteenth century the modern state arose. This proved to be an extraordinary efficient form of governing in the hands of the ruling class. However, its relatively sudden arising involved a legitimacy problem. In the old days, religion and the social hierarchy of the feudal system kept the people obedient. These institutions didn't fit in with the new dominant ideology of liberalism and they could even stand in the way of an efficient functioning of capitalism. The ideology of nationalism appeared to be a good remedy to strengthen the loyalty to the state even further, and so the power of the state too. A communal tongue, spoken through the entire country, was developed to make the state apparatus function more efficiently and to create an imagined feeling of solidarity among the inhabitants of
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: FC: Blackplanet.com bans woman named Babcock for foul last name
Give me a break... Are you sure you don't mean "fowl" last name? Suppose members of a folklore chatroom decided to discuss the poem "Who Killed Cock Robin?" -- would the censorware block *that*? This is getting like the Victorians putting pantaloons on overly-suggestive table legs and Mother Hubbards on classical sculpture! Or is this perhaps a Martian fire drill aimed at diverting attention from *other*, more serious invasions of online privacy? Inquiring minds want to know... - Original Message - From: "nessie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 2:00 PM Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: FC: Blackplanet.com bans woman named "Babcock" for foul last name http://www.dfn.org/Voices/Americas/usa/blackplanet.htm DIGITAL FREEDOM NETWORK MEDIA RELEASE: For immediate release Contact: Bobson Wong (201-928-4378, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]) or Alan Brown (201-928-4365, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]) WEB SITE BANS WOMAN WITH "UNACCEPTABLE" NAME NEWARK, N.J., August 18, 2000 - In a new twist on Internet censorship, Los Angeles attorney Sherril Babcock was blocked from joining the BlackPlanet.com online service - at least until she changes her name. snip A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: Core GOP Tenets
- Original Message - From: Harold Rosenthal To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 5:52 AM Subject: [July30] Core GOP Tenets July 30 in Philly - www.unity2000.com Forwarded by Mark Ratkus/Economics/LaSalle on How To Be A Good Republican: 1. You have to believe that the nation's current 8-year prosperity was due to the work of Ronald Reagan and George Bush, but yesterday's gasoline prices are all Clinton's fault. 2. You have to believe that those privileged from birth achieve success all on their own. 3. You have to be against all government programs, but expect Social Security checks on time. 4. You have to believe that someone like Michelle Pfeiffer can really walk into an inner city classroom and accomplish miracles. 5. AIDS victims deserve their disease, but smokers with lung cancer and overweight individuals with heart disease don't deserve theirs. 6. You have to appreciate the power rush that comes with sporting a gun. 7. You have to believe...everything Rush Limbaugh says. 8. You have to believe that the agricultural, restaurant, housing and hotel industries can survive without immigrant labor. 9. You have to believe God hates homosexuality, but loves the death penalty. 10. You have to believe society is colorblind and growing up black in America doesn't diminish your opportunities, but you still won't vote for Alan Keyes. 11. You have to believe that pollution is OK as long as it makes a profit. 12. You have to believe in prayer in schools, as long as you don't pray to Allah or Buddha. 13. You have to believe Newt Gingrich and Henry Hyde were really faithful husbands. 14. You have to believe speaking a few Spanish phrases makes you instantly popular in the barrio. 15. You have to believe that only your own teenagers are still virgins. 16. You have to be against government interference in business, until your oil company, corporation or Savings and Loan is about to go broke and you beg for a government bail out. 17. You love Jesus and Jesus loves you and, by the way, Jesus shares your hate for AIDS victims, homosexuals, and President Clinton. 18. You have to believe government has nothing to do with providing police protection, national defense, and building roads. 19. You have to believe a poor, minority student with a disciplinary history and failing grades will be admitted into an elite private school with a $1,000 voucher. 20. You only wanted Elian Gonzalez to stay in order to peeve the President. ---=Hal Rosenthal New Year's resolution check-up time. How many of you are still on your diets? To unsubscribe, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Start Your Own FREE Email List at http://www.listbot.com/links/joinlb A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] OT: ST: Prehistoric Man Were Communists
Amen. Kropotkin is too often overlooked as a political philosopher. I've seen studies of community crisis response which argue persuasively that during a crisis such as a hurricane, earthquake, etc., the community goes into a roughly three-day cycle: the first day and a half *no government exists*--and everyone pulls together in pure Kropotskian mutual aid; then slowly individual greed and self-interest start to reassert themselves, at the same time that government is beginning to pull itself back onto its feet and get its own people into the disaster-relief game. Recovery to the approximate status quo is complete by the end of the third day, with emergency personnel (police, military, civil relief) in control of the situation. (I've seen this in action during hurricane relief more than once.) It is left as an exercise for the advanced student to consider the result if *another* crisis occurs before the first crisis has resolved itself, then a *third* crisis occurs before the second has resolved. - Original Message - From: "nessie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 7:15 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] OT: ST: Prehistoric Man Were Communists [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: no other animal does that. This is most untrue. As the nineteenth century's most eminent scientist, Peter Kropotkin, pointed out in his brilliant, but suppressed, "Mutual Aid: A Factor in Evolution," all species cooperate, both within species and with other species, and that those species that cooperate best are the most likely to survive. Even solitary predators like the Siberian tigers that used to be his neighbors at the ornithological research station, divide up the hunting grounds into clearly marked personal zones and respect each other's territory. And need I mention the ants? Mutual Aid: A Factor in Evolution is available from http://www/akpress.org A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The North Pole has melted.
Actually, it's more like 600 years (misplaced decimal point?)--the global cooling known as the Little Ice Age began about 1500, and is finally ending today. During the High Middle Ages, ca. 1200, the mean global temperature was probably several degrees warmer than it is today. The Little Ice Age contributed to the collapse of the Norse settlements in Greenland; isolated Iceland from Europe and almost killed off its population (in combination with a disastrous volcanic eruption which poisoned the island's water); and forced England to plant colonies overseas to supply grain and other consumables formerly produced within the British Isles. "Global warming" seems to be the result of a combination of human activity *and* natural climate shift. In short, the jury is definitely still out. This *doesn't* mean that we can blithely go on polluting and wasting natural resources; it is still essential that we make the value judgments necessary to preserve and protect the biosphere for future generations. But it *does* mean that we simply do not have all the facts needed to determine how much global warming is human in its origins and how much comes from poorly-understood natural climatic cycles. - Original Message - From: "Carl Amedio" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 6:26 PM Subject: [CTRL] The North Pole has melted. An American scientist says the ice cap at the North Pole has melted. Dr James McCarthy, an oceanographer, says he found a mile-wide stretch of open ocean on a recent trip to the pole. Some experts believe it is the first time in more than 50 million years that the North Pole has been covered in water rather than ice. snip A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] This Water Is Ours, Damn It!
- Original Message - From: "Soren" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 2:22 PM Subject: (50 Years) delegation to cochabamba, bolivia - site of WB/privatization battle From: Neil Tangri [EMAIL PROTECTED] Invitation to Join An International Delegation to Cochabamba, Bolivia The Coordinadora de Defensa de Agua y de la Vida (Coalition for the Defense of Water and Life), the Federación de Trabajadores Fabriles de Cochabamba (the Cochabamba Federation of Factory Workers, the Federación Departamental Cochabambino de Regantes (Federation of Traditional Water District Committees) and 1world communication invite you to join the people of Cochabamba in solidarity on September 26, the day the World Bank and the IMF will hold their semi-annual joint meeting in Prague, the Czech Republic. "This Water is Ours, Damn it!" was the battle cry for the "water wars" an uprising last April in Cochabamba to force the reversal of the privatization of the city's water system and the imposition of draconian legislation that would have expropriated traditional rural communities of their customary water usage. The 1999 privatization concession to a Bechtel Corporation of California affiliate, and regulatory reform was done under pressure from the World Bank. A coalition of labor, human rights, and community activists under the leadership of "La Coordinadora'' initiated protests that brought the city to a halt in January, February and April. They refused to back down despite the government's declaration of a "state of siege" and the sending in of troops. After months of protests resulting in the total shut down of the city, and days of street battles with federal troops, in mid-April the Bolivian government officials were forced to nullifying the contract they signed with the Bechtel Corporation's affiliate, and make immediate reforms to water legislation. By their heroic actions the people of Cochabamba have become what governments, institutions like the World Bank and the IMF, and multinational corporations fear the most: a clear indication that local communities can fight back against neo-liberalism. Cochabamba today is the "threat of a good example", and a source of pride and inspiration for activists all over the world fighting against the privatization of some of the most basic necessities of life. The residents of Cochabamba believe that the fight is not over. Already there are reports of back door negotiations occurring to revive the contract by orchestrating a "gentler" takeover, while the government backslides on commitments made to those wounded in the "water war". The people of Cochabamba, however, are determined to not let that happen. While activists from all over the world will be in Prague protesting as the World Bank and the IMF will hold their semi-annual joint meetings, we will be learning of one extraordinary example of successful struggle against the neo-liberal agenda imposed by the World Bank and the IMF. The World Bank and the IMF, two of the cornerstones of the international financial system, claim to be working to eliminate poverty, but their real purpose is to force developing nations to embrace corporate globalization. The result is rampant abuse of workers' rights and the environment and the further impoverishment of the very people the World Bank and IMF are supposedly there to help. Our hosts and guides in Cochabamba will be movement leaders Oscar Olivera, Omar Fernandez and Carmen Peredo. Oscar Olivera is a worker n the local Bata shoe plant, Executive Secretary of the Cochabamba Federation of Factory Workers, a central leader of "La Coordinadora'', and this year's recipient of the Institute for Policy Studies' Letelier/Moffitt Human Rights Award. Oscar awed audiences in Washington with his accounts of the uprising in Bolivia during the April 16 mobilization against the IMF and the World Bank. Omar Fernandez and Carmen Peredo are leaders of the Federation of Traditional Water District Committees, and also central leaders of "La Coordinadora'', and extraordinary rural organizers. The purpose of our delegation is two fold: to build international solidarity for their fight against the privatization and the construction of local alternatives, and to address the Bolivian Government's grievous inattention to the helping those wounded in the struggle The wounded must not be forgotten. By getting Bechtel out and forcing legislative changes, their sacrifice and struggle opened up the possibility for the people of Cochabamba to construct their own alternative to the neo-liberal order, starting with the regulation and provision of that which is central to life itself: water. We will meet with leaders from the different sectors of society that were key to the victory, to learn of the struggles to outs Bechtel, and the current work to build alternatives. We will meet with
[CTRL] Homeopathic Preparations Appear to Have Therapeutic Effect
Returning to an old thread having to do with alternative medicine... - http://respiratorycare.medscape.com/reuters/prof/2000/08/08.18/2818clin015.h tml Homeopathic Preparations Appear to Have Therapeutic Effect WESTPORT, Aug 18 (Reuters Health) - A homeopathic preparation for perennial allergic rhinitis appears to be more effective than placebo, according to a report in the August 19/26 issue of the British Medical Journal. Dr. David Reilly from the Homoeopathic Hospital, Glasgow, UK, and a multicenter team studied 50 patients with perennial allergic rhinitis. The subjects were randomized to receive either 30c of a homeopathic preparation of principal inhalent allergen or placebo. In the third and fourth week after the start of treatment, the group compared changes in nasal inspiratory peak flow and visual symptom analogue scale scores to baseline measurements. "The homoeopathy group had a significant objective improvement in nasal airflow compared with the placebo group (mean difference 19.8 L/min)," Dr. Reilly's group reports. While both groups reported an improvement in symptoms, when the researchers combined the results from this trial with those of three previous trials (n = 253), there was "a mean symptom reduction on visual analogue scores of 28% (10.9 mm) for homoeopathy compared with 3% (1.1 mm) for placebo." Given these results, Dr. Reilly and colleagues conclude, "this study has failed to confirm our original hypothesis that homoeopathy is a placebo." Editorials point out that "homoeopathy is biologically implausible because of the use of medicines diluted beyond the Avogadro limit." Dr. Tim Lancaster, from the Institute of Health Sciences, Oxford, UK, and Dr. Andrew Vickers, from Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center, New York, add that trials of homoeopathy are difficult because "there are no established animal models, mechanisms of action, or examples of similar treatment for proved benefit." Although the "methods used by Reilly and colleagues in their study of homeopathy for perennial allergic rhinitis were rigorous and it is unlikely that their results arose from methodological bias," the editorials believe that much larger trials are still needed. BMJ 2000;321:471-476. Copyright © 2000 Reuters Ltd. All rights reserved. Republication or redistribution of Reuters content is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Reuters. Reuters shall not be liable for any errors or delays in the content, or for any actions taken in reliance thereon. Robert F. Tatman Information Technology Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jenkintown, PA, USA *Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.* A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Acupuncture May Aid in The Treatment of Cocaine Dependence
http://neurology.medscape.com/reuters/prof/2000/08/08.14/2814clin020.html Acupuncture May Aid in The Treatment of Cocaine Dependence WESTPORT, Aug 14 (Reuters Health) - Acupuncture treatments for chronic cocaine addiction appear to be effective, according to researchers from Yale University, New Haven, Connecticut. Dr. Arthur Margolin and colleagues randomly assigned 82 cocaine-dependent patients who were on methadone maintenance therapy to receive auricular acupuncture, a needle insertion control procedure or no-needle relaxation therapy. Patients received 5 weekly treatments over the 8 weeks of the trial, including group and individual counseling. The researchers tested the subject's urine for the presence of cocaine three times a week. "We found that these patients had better outcomes when they received auricular acupuncture compared to the two control groups," Dr. Margolin told Reuters Health. In the August 14/28th issue of the Archives of Internal Medicine, he and his group report that "intent-to treat analysis of the urine data showed that patients assigned to acupuncture were significantly more likely to provide cocaine-negative urine samples relative to both the relaxation control...and the needle insertion control." The odds ratios were 3.41 and 2.40, respectively. In addition, the researchers found that those receiving acupuncture who completed the program "provided significantly more consecutive cocaine-negative urine samples while in treatment than either control condition. Those receiving acupuncture "were more likely to be cocaine abstinent during the final week of the trial," with an abstinence rate of 58.8%, compared with 23.5% for the needle control group and 9.1% for the relaxation control group. "Of course we don't really know the biological mechanism [of acupuncture]. So we see this as a stage in a series of studies," Dr. Margolin said. He explained that he and his group used the protocol of the National Acupuncture Detoxification Association, which is widely used in the US and Europe for the treatment of cocaine addiction. "The results from these programs seem to be very promising. The thinking is that acupuncture is really most effective when it is offered as part of a comprehensive treatment program," he added. Arch Intern Med 2000;160:2305-2312. Copyright © 2000 Reuters Ltd. All rights reserved. Republication or redistribution of Reuters content is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Reuters. Reuters shall not be liable for any errors or delays in the content, or for any actions taken in reliance thereon. Robert F. Tatman Information Technology Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jenkintown, PA, USA *Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.* A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] http://neurology.medscape.com/reuters/prof/2000/08/08.14/20000814publ003.html
http://neurology.medscape.com/reuters/prof/2000/08/08.14/2814publ003.html Physicians Called Upon to Change Attitudes Toward Herbal Medicines WESTPORT, Aug 14 (Reuters Health) - As the market for herbal drugs nears $4 billion a year in the US, the time has come for physicians to take a closer look at the benefits and risks of herbal medicines, according to Dr. E. Ernst, of the University of Exeter, UK. One driving force in this health trend has been the accumulation of evidence that some herbal medicines may have true clinical benefits, Dr. Ernst explains in the August 12th issue of the British Medical Journal. In particular, hypericum, the active component of St. John's wort, appears to be as effective as conventional antidepressants; gingko biloba seems to be able to delay the clinical course of dementia; and positive clinical effects of saw palmetto and horse chestnut seed extracts have been reported. On the flip side, little is known about the mechanisms underlying the efficacy of most herbal drugs, according to the editorialist. And the fact that these medicines are sold as nutritional supplements means that they evade the safety requirements placed on conventional drugs. This is an important concern, Dr. Ernst says, given evidence of severe side effects of some herbal remedies and the possibility of drug-drug interactions. For instance, ginseng could cause excessive anticoagulation when combined with warfarin. Dr. Ernst says that many physicians maintain a "negative attitude" toward herbal medicines, and he calls on them to take a second look. "Doctors, pharmacists and other healthcare professionals need to be knowledgeable to advise their patients responsibly, and there is an unquestionable need for reliable information on herbal medicines, a demand that must be met adequately by undergraduate and postgraduate education," he says. The editorialist adds that questions about herbal medicine use should become a routine part of any medical history, and that physicians should monitor the effects--both positive and negative--of these drugs in their patients. BMJ 2000;321:395-396. Copyright © 2000 Reuters Ltd. All rights reserved. Republication or redistribution of Reuters content is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Reuters. Reuters shall not be liable for any errors or delays in the content, or for any actions taken in reliance thereon. Robert F. Tatman Information Technology Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jenkintown, PA, USA *Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.* A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Physicians Called Upon to Change Attitudes Toward Herbal Medicines
[Corrected title.] http://neurology.medscape.com/reuters/prof/2000/08/08.14/2814publ003.html Physicians Called Upon to Change Attitudes Toward Herbal Medicines WESTPORT, Aug 14 (Reuters Health) - As the market for herbal drugs nears $4 billion a year in the US, the time has come for physicians to take a closer look at the benefits and risks of herbal medicines, according to Dr. E. Ernst, of the University of Exeter, UK. One driving force in this health trend has been the accumulation of evidence that some herbal medicines may have true clinical benefits, Dr. Ernst explains in the August 12th issue of the British Medical Journal. In particular, hypericum, the active component of St. John's wort, appears to be as effective as conventional antidepressants; gingko biloba seems to be able to delay the clinical course of dementia; and positive clinical effects of saw palmetto and horse chestnut seed extracts have been reported. On the flip side, little is known about the mechanisms underlying the efficacy of most herbal drugs, according to the editorialist. And the fact that these medicines are sold as nutritional supplements means that they evade the safety requirements placed on conventional drugs. This is an important concern, Dr. Ernst says, given evidence of severe side effects of some herbal remedies and the possibility of drug-drug interactions. For instance, ginseng could cause excessive anticoagulation when combined with warfarin. Dr. Ernst says that many physicians maintain a "negative attitude" toward herbal medicines, and he calls on them to take a second look. "Doctors, pharmacists and other healthcare professionals need to be knowledgeable to advise their patients responsibly, and there is an unquestionable need for reliable information on herbal medicines, a demand that must be met adequately by undergraduate and postgraduate education," he says. The editorialist adds that questions about herbal medicine use should become a routine part of any medical history, and that physicians should monitor the effects--both positive and negative--of these drugs in their patients. BMJ 2000;321:395-396. Copyright © 2000 Reuters Ltd. All rights reserved. Republication or redistribution of Reuters content is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Reuters. Reuters shall not be liable for any errors or delays in the content, or for any actions taken in reliance thereon. Robert F. Tatman Information Technology Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jenkintown, PA, USA *Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.* A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] I have to ask this
Excuse me, Amelia, but that should be "coca", not "cocoa"... Not that this is the first time the two have been confused, however. When the Spanish arrived in South America, I've heard, they discovered the natives chewing funny-tasting leaves and drinking a strange, dark hot beverage. After a while of chewing the leaves and imbibing the hot drink, los Indios became decidedly intoxicated; and accordingly the Spanish, wishing only to protect the common good, banned the consumption of cocoa. It should be noted that the unprocessed leaves of the coca plant are nowhere near as potent in their effect that the refined extract called cocaine. - Original Message - From: "Amelia" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 2:30 AM Subject: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] I have to ask this snip In Bolivia, one may order tea made with cocoa leaves. snip A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Request for Information
Thanks. I had a feeling Kahn would be my best source, but wasn't sure. - Original Message - From: "Richard Sampson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 12:06 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Request for Information The Code-Breakers, David Kahn, Macmillan (1st ed.) Simon and Schuster (rev and updated). snip A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] researcher suggests elusive Bigfoot is an android
Oh wow...I just realized that Bigfoot is in fact my long-lost Great-Uncle Harry, who disappeared in 1946 after a record-setting binge in Fargo, ND, in the course of which he personally demolished fifteen bars, three Ford pickup trucks, and two sheriff's deputies, and consumed the town's entire stock of alcohol, whether consumable or not. Uncle Harry never cut his hair--not on principle or anything, he was just lazy--and brushed his teeth only on Saint Swithin's Day in alternate leap years, which when combined with his invariable custom of bathing only on those rare occasions when someone got close enough to him to throw him into a handy river or lake, meant that the family held him at the length of all our arms put together. What PROVES that Bigfoot is in fact Uncle Harry is this: Uncle Harry wore size 32 1/2 shoes, which were broken down at the heel and broken out at the toe thanks to his approach to nail-clipping, which was basically don't do it. I would attach a photograph of Uncle Harry to this message to prove my contention, but unfortunately the only photo of him in the family album disintegrated several years ago when Great-Aunt Mehitable exposed it to hydrofluoric acid under the mistaken impression that she was shellacking it... (Well, it makes as much sense as any OTHER theory of Bigfoot...) - Original Message - From: "(Conspiracy Theory Research List)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] researcher suggests elusive Bigfoot is an android It's actually an out-of-work woukie waiting for the next Star Wars film. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: [a16-international-planning] The World Bank on S26
Another useful phrase might be one of the exercises from my Korean textbook: "Excuse me, please. I have dysentery." - Original Message - From: "Neil Tangri" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 12:36 PM Subject: [a16-international-planning] The World Bank on S26 This is from the World Bank's daily news summary: After successful direct action in Seattle and Washington, similar protests are being lined up for the World Bank and IMF's next meeting in Prague, the Guardian (p. 8) reports. The London chapter of S26, the group organizing the protests, has helpfully compiled a five-page list of Czech translations, including: "You fascist pig", "Long live anarchy" and, of course, "Where is the nearest McDonald's?" A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: (GDR) Norway on alert for atom leaks from Russian sub
Latest reports (as of 8/14/00 2:00 PM EDT) are that the Russians are reporting that the *Kursk* suffered severe damage, probably in a collision with another submarine. The nationality of the second sub, which presumably suffered considerable damage as well, is not being mentioned, but the implication (knowing history) is that it is American. U.S. subs have conducted regular surveillance of the Russian naval base at Murmansk for more than fifty years, often penetrating deep into Russian territorial waters. There have reportedly been several other collisions between subs of the two nations, but this appears to be the most serous to date. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: undisclosed-recipients: Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 1:09 PM Subject: (GDR) Norway on alert for atom leaks from Russian sub Norway on alert for atom leaks from Russian sub By Alister Doyle OSLO, Aug 14 (Reuters) - Norway decided on Monday to stay on alert for possible radioactive pollution from a crippled Russian submarine, in which more than 100 sailors were trapped, despite Moscow's assurances that there were no leaks. The Norwegian Defence Ministry said the submarine was in international waters 150 metres (500 ft) deep north-east of the Russian port of Murmansk. It said Moscow, which shares an Arctic border with Norway, had not asked Oslo for help. ``Data coming in now show that we can't see any sign of radioactivity,'' Per Strand, acting head of the Norwegian Radiation Protection Authority, told NRK public radio after what he called ``fairly intensive'' tests of air and sea. He said Norwegian experts in an emergency commission for atomic accidents met on Monday and ``decided to keep up the work (on checking for leaks) in the Norwegian area and to try to collect water samples as close as possible to the accident.'' The commission includes radiation specialists, military personnel and health workers. He said Oslo was staying on alert ``to be on the safe side'' despite Russian assurances there had been no leaks from the Kursk submarine. Moscow said that there were no atomic weapons aboard and that the vessel's reactor had been turned off. Norway has long feared radioactive pollution from its eastern neighbour. During the Cold War, the Soviet Union used the twin Arctic islands of Novaya Zemlya as a nuclear-testing ground. The Russian Northern Fleet is based in Murmansk. 42 DIED IN 1989 SUB SINKING In 1989, a Soviet nuclear submarine sank off North Norway, killing 42 sailors. The Komsomolets submarine, including atomic torpedoes, is now rusting on the sea bed. And the 1986 Chernobyl nuclear disaster was first revealed outside the Soviet Union by a routine check of radioactivity in a Swedish nuclear plant. The Defence Ministry said that Norway had not been formally informed of the latest accident or asked for help. ``Nothing implies that Russian rescue experts need assistance, but Norwegian authorities will of course be positive if any request were made,'' it said. It said it had no reason to doubt Moscow's assurances that there were no atomic weapons aboard. The Russian office of the Norwegian ecological group, Bellona, was quoted by the Russian news agency Interfax as saying it was concerned by the ``atmosphere of secrecy'' surrounding the submarine incident. Interfax quoted Bellona as recalling that since the introduction of nuclear submarines, Russia's Northern Fleet had suffered four major accidents in which crew members died. 12:32 08-14-00 Copyright 2000 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved. Republication or redistribution of Reuters content, including by framing or similar means, is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Reuters. Reuters shall not be liable for any errors or delays in the content, or for any actions taken in reliance thereon. [non-text material snipped] A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research
Re: [CTRL] NATO takes over mine complex in Kosovo
Now we begin to see the implementation of the hidden agenda in Kosovo. Trebca may be antiquated, it may be polluting the air and water, working conditions may be horrendous...but it's a major source for gold, silver, lead, zinc, and cadmium, one of the most important mining complexes in Europe. Seizing the smelter is only the beginning. Expect NATO to begin "temporary" occupation of the rest of the Trebca complex... - Original Message - From: "Steve Wingate" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 3:30 PM Subject: [CTRL] NATO takes over mine complex in Kosovo NATO takes over mine complex in Kosovo The Associated Press ZVECAN, Yugoslavia (August 14, 2000 1:06 p.m. EDT http://www.nandotimes.com) - In a pre-dawn raid likely to heighten tensions in the region, NATO-led peacekeepers took control of a Serb-run mining complex in the northern part of Kosovo on Monday. snip A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Request for Information
Can anyone on the list give me good references, both print and links, on the breaking of the Japanese naval code before Pearl Harbor and Roosevelt's suppression of that information? I've been asked for info on this particular conspiracy, and thought I'd shortcut the research process by asking the folks who already have the data at their fingertips... :^) Thanks! Bob Robert F. Tatman Information Technology Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jenkintown, PA, USA *Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.* A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Has anyone heard about this?
This is a hoax. - Original Message - From: Eagle 1 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 8:09 AM Subject: [CTRL] Has anyone heard about this? I'm really not surprised. Subject: VOTE NO ON Bill 602P I guess the warnings were true. Federal Bill 602P 5-cents per E-mail
Re: [CTRL] Samuel Wilson/CIA/College President
If the country ran on the honor code of Haverford College, the elite Quaker school near Philadelphia, there are perhaps no more than half a dozen members of Congress who would not be expelled for lying. Certainly the entire Reagan-Bush administration would have been kicked off campus without further ado. As Martin Luther remarked long ago, it all depends on whose ox is being gored... - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 11:15 AM Subject: [CTRL] Samuel Wilson/CIA/College President .. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed] Note: We store 100's of related "conspiracy posts" at: http://www.msen.com/~lloyd/oldprojects/recentmail.html From: "Alex Constantine" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Lloyd" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Samuel Wilson/CIA/College President Date: Sunday, August 06, 2000 2:12 AM snip ``If he (Clinton) were a student at Hampden-Sydney, he would be expelled for lying,'' Wilson said, quoting the Hampden-Sydney editor. The college has an honor code much like the U.S. military academies. snip A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Werner von Braun
Amen, Nessie. I am proud of my German heritage. It's a highly important part of me. BUT I ABOMINATE THE NAZIS AND EVERYTHING THEY DID AND EVERYTHING THEY STOOD FOR. When I was ten years old I began reading everything I could get my hands on, trying to understand why this nation of warm, loving people, the nation that produced Lessing, Schiller, Goethe, Beethoven, Heine, Hesse...why this nation could have descended into the depths of such a God-forsaken horror as Nazism. And over the years, among many other conclusions, I decided that I could not, under any circumstances, support the right of anyone to propagate Nazism today. Espousing Nazism in any form, in my opinion, constitutes a clear incitement to violence and hatred, to outright murder, and falls outside the protections of the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. We kicked the Nazi wannabes off this list when they tried to take it over. I agree totally with Nessie that anyone wishing to spout that garbage should do it on another list. *Raus mit dir, Kerl. Hier ist gar kein Platz für dich.* - Original Message - From: "nessie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Werner von Braun [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: snip I'm really quite sick of the habitual, gratuitous bashing and re-bashing of every person of German identity And I'm sick of Nazi sympathizers putting words in my mouth. I said no such thing. To imply that I did is typical of Nazi duplicity and of the duplicity of their sympathizers. If you are going to continue to stick up for Nazis you should do it somewhere else. Nazis are not welcome on this list. It's a big net. There's plenty of parts of it where Nazis and their friends are more than welcome. Go there instead. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fungus GM Foods
Plus which, the absentee English landlords had discovered they could make more money by raising cattle on the still-fertile farmland, so they had no stake in encouraging the Irish to diversify their crops, and plenty of reasons to want them off the land... Sound familiar? Take a look at Central America, among other places, then call up MacDonald's and ask them where the beef for their Big Macs comes from. Just another little bit of exploitation invented by the Brits. - Original Message - From: "nessie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fungus GM Foods What could have caused the Irish Potato famine? English imperialism. Every single day of the Famine, Ireland exported food. Why? Because the Irish people had to raise money to pay rent on their own land to their English landlords. Meanwhile, they themselves went hungry. "God made the blight," as they say, "But England made the Famine." A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Vigilante Vigil (1st 2nd)
The issue of child molesters and other sex offenders is more complicated yet. According to some material I posted to CTRL a few months ago and don't have immediately at hand (I'll dig it up and repost it), psychopaths such as child molesters routinely fake out their therapists by mastering the lingo of recovery, convincing the therapists that they have been "cured." Once released back into the community, they calmly resume their earlier behavior without qualm. Carrying this a little further, it seems that modern corporations, and by extension modern government, offer a safe haven for many psychopaths, whose antisocial or asocial conduct goes unnoticed or at most subsumed under the rubric of good, aggressive business practices. (Albert "Chainsaw" Dunlap is the classic example of this type of psychopath.) The psychiatrist who discussed these findings suggested that the only long-term solution to the problem posed by psychopaths, since their response to therapy cannot be trusted, may be either permanent incarceration or permanent close monitoring. - Original Message - From: "Alamaine" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 9:10 PM Subject: [CTRL] Vigilante Vigil (1st 2nd) From www.wsws.org There must be an island where they can send these individuals to keep them apart from otherwise normal people. I would be concerned with recidivism. However, the Britlanders seem to have evolved into a mob rule (from too much soccer?) society, which might be slightly contrary to "family values". AER snip A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bill Clinton is suffering from a sexually-transmitteddisease.
I'd like to see full psychiatric workups on a few GOP members of Congress, particularly Tom DeLay and Jesse Helms. As for Senator Senility, Strom Thurmond, all I can say is he must be the best insurance policy any President and Vice President have, since as President Pro Tem of the Senate he is third in the line of Presidential succession... - Original Message - From: "Ben Stone" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 17, 1998 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Bill Clinton is suffering from a sexually-transmitteddisease. These claims about Clinton aren't new. There was a suggestion (I don't know if it was backed by anything except supposition) that he had HIV becasue he didn't have proper penetrative intercourse with Monica. --- Move to a better address --- + today freemail + http://www.today.com.au A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] I WAS DICK CHENEY'S SEX SLAVE'
And Redstone Arsenal is where NASA runs its "Space Camp," a very convenient way to indoctrinate the most active and intelligent kids in their high school classes... FWIW. - Original Message - From: "Kris Millegan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] I WAS DICK CHENEY'S SEX SLAVE' What i find most interesting is the notation that Cathy is from/living-in Huntsville, ALa. Seems to me that is where the Redstone arsneal is, NASA is and DISC is. And where a main contingent of germans came after WWII, a place that many have pointed to as a place of MKULTRA. Hmm . . . Om K A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Werner von Braun - was I WAS DICK CHENEY'S SEX SLAVE'
*Both* the US and Soviet space programs, and through them every other space program, relied on German missile technology. The US and the Soviets split the original Peenemuende team between them, although von Braun did his best to get as many of his men as possible into the hands of the Americans. Although the V-2 production facilities in Thuringia fell in the Soviet sector of Occupied Germany, the cream of the senior production staff (including the commander of the Mittelwerke and supervisor of the attached concentration camp) surrendered to the Americans, by design. Every missile or spaceship launched from this planet since 1945 has been based on the German designs and design philosophy. Now, it is certainly true that both Goddard, the American rocketry pioneer, and Tsiolkovsky, the Russian rocketry pioneer, could have led comparable development operations which would inevitably have led to highly successful rocket designs, but the fact remains that it was the Germans, led by von Braun, who prevailed by a quirk of historical fate. I don't know how history will ultimately judge von Braun, or for that matter the Americans and Russians who took over the German research in the name of the Cold War. But the man was a technological genius, beyond doubt. He may well also have been guilty of war crimes and crimes against humanity, but justice belongs to the victors, and by the time the Nuremberg Trials convened, von Braun and his Paperclip team were safely secure in White Sands, New Mexico, and--like so many other "former" Nazis who had turned their coats--under the protecting aegis of the United States Government. - Original Message - From: "Samantha L." [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 2:23 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Werner von Braun - was I WAS DICK CHENEY'S SEX SLAVE' In a message dated 8/11/00 1:03:59 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: With von Braun on our side - we beat the bastards to the moon which was dream of JFK; but look who takes or tried to take the bows here recently, attempting to use even little John John.so now father and son both dead.and they did take a Gideon Bible to the moon. Whatever aspirations the US had, if it could not achieve them without the aid of Nazis, they weren't worth achieving. Our country did survive in name, but look where we are now? We are a national security state that feeds its own people into the machine of survival. Better that our country risk annihilation than lose her soul. snip A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [surfingtheapocalypse] [RMNEWS] HAS THE WAR BEGUN??
On Wednesday two light planes collided in midair over Burlington County, New Jersey, killing all ten people on the two planes and one person on the ground. The larger plane was a commuter flight from Lakewood Naval Air Station, carrying mostly civilian Navy personnel en route to the Navy research facility at Patuxent River, Maryland. As far as I know, a full list of the casualties together with their assignments has not yet been published... - Original Message - From: "DIG alfred webre" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] [surfingtheapocalypse] [RMNEWS] HAS THE WAR BEGUN?? In a message dated 00-08-11 03:22:50 EDT, you write: Interesting, I just ran across this responase to the Rumor Mill Article "HAS THE WAR BEGUN" You can find all the comments on Sightings here:http://www.sightings.com/general3/warbegun.htm But here is the most interesting Confirmation Of Crash Comment From G.L. Warner 8-10-00 My friend sent me your article last night regarding the piece that you have on yoyur site titled "Has the War Begun"? I read it with great interest and did some research last night with no luck. Today, I read a comment at the bottom of the page questioning the authenticity of the incident and your posting of it. I did more research and this is waht I found: I went to this address: http://www.newslibrary.com and entered the following search criteria; plane crash and the dates of 4/19/95 to 4/20/95 and ran it through several papers including the Baltimore Sun. This is the results of the search: Published on 04/19/1995, THE BALTIMORE SUN High-Ranking Officials Dead In Jet Crash ALEXANDER CITY, Ala. -- Investigators recovered the black box recorders yesterday from the wreckage of a military jet that crashed in flames, killing eight people, including an assistant Air Force secretary and a two-star general. Your search terms appear 4 times in this article. Complete Article, 459 words I didn't bother to buy the entire article but it does fit the bill for the article which you referenced. LOOKS like there was a crash of SOME high ranking military anyway... Theresa A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Werner von Braun - was I WAS DICK CHENEY'S SEX SLAVE'
mode="historian" I didn't say I thought that justice SHOULD belong to the victors--I said it DOES belong to the victors. The victor always dictates the history of the war and passes judgment on acts committed during it...whether that control over events and interpretation is justified or legitimate or not. I could equally have used Mao's dictum that "power grows from the barrel of a gun." /mode Bob - Original Message - From: "Samantha L." [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Werner von Braun - was I WAS DICK CHENEY'S SEX SLAVE' In a message dated 8/11/00 3:46:50 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But the man was a technological genius, beyond doubt. He may well also have been guilty of war crimes and crimes against humanity, but justice belongs to the victors, and by the time the Nuremberg Trials convened, von Braun and his Paperclip team were safely secure in White Sands, New Mexico, and--like so many other "former" Nazis who had turned their coats--under the protecting aegis of the United States Government. I don't agree that justice belongs to the victors. The guy with the biggest gun for the moment rules the roost, but that has nothing at all to do with justice. Samantha A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Anarchist Black Bloc Press Release
It seems to me that the end implied by this particular means would resemble rather closely the thing it aspires to replace... If private property is as absurd a concept as it certainly appears to be, doesn't it make more sense to *ignore* it rather than try to eradicate it using the very methods that brought it into existence? - Original Message - From: "Oscar" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 2:21 PM Subject: [CTRL] Anarchist Black Bloc Press Release http://www.magicnet.net/~jza/news.html August 8, 2000 Anarchist Black Bloc Press Release snip As anarchists we believe private property is theft, state property is a tool for the protection of corporate interests and that both must be destroyed for the creation of a society based on mutual aid and individual liberty. ... Property damage, as one form of strategic direct action, is an effective way to achieve this goal. snip ~~ The end is in the means as the tree is in the seed. - Mahatma Ghandi ~~ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Anarchist Black Bloc Press Release
Nessie, that doesn't answer my question. If you use violence to change violence, you have changed nothing. That's the whole point of the Gandhi quote: The end IS implicit in the means. Or, to paraphrase a passage from the Buddha, "Hatred is not overcome by hatred; hatred is overcome only by love. This is an old rule." - Original Message - From: "nessie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Anarchist Black Bloc Press Release [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: If private property is as absurd a concept as it certainly appears to be, doesn't it make more sense to *ignore* it rather than try to eradicate it using the very methods that brought it into existence? Because it does not ignore us. It is important to distinguish between personal property and private property. We have the utmost respect for personal property. It is the essence of liberty. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] help me out here, gang
FWIW, both sites open fine in IE. I think it may have been an AOL issue (surprise, surprise!)... - Original Message - From: "Kris Millegan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 6:47 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] help me out here, gang In a message dated 8/8/00 10:14:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hm. How about that. Somebody else try, somebody with AOL. Then we can see if it's specific to Kris's computer or to AOL. Kris should try again later to see if it's time specific. Does it work in Explorer? What about the content? Now what about this one? What's going on here? http://www.vaticanbankclaims.com Tis working on aol now. The content is, as much as I can tell, fair. The vatican bank story is again accurate as far as know. Talk to the lawyers, they are in your town. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] (en) Philly - Key activists were earmarked by police
YOU know that, and the DEMONSTRATORS know that, but the police don't. The police, being paramilitary and therefore by definition hierarchical, can't conceive of leaderless organizations, and thus targeted the people who *looked* like what they conceived of as leaders--namely, the ones with walkie-talkies and cell phones. - Original Message - From: "nessie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 1:46 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] (en) Philly - Key activists were earmarked by police [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: The critics said the arrests of several protest leaders - "ringleaders," as the District Attorney's Office termed them - were part of a pattern in which police aimed to decapitate the leadership of the demonstrations. Horizontal orginization renders anarchists immune to decapitating strikes. We don't have leaders. We are leaders. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Poli. Sci. 101
Okay, people, let's go back to freshman political science class and review some definitions. The United States is a democratic republic. The term "republic" means ONLY a country which is not a monarchy. The term "democracy" means ONLY government by the people--the word does not prescribe how that government is organized. Specifically, the government of the United States is described as "representative democracy," which means ONLY that the citizens of the country, as individuals or in combination, choose representatives to run the country for them. The government of the United States is also a "constitutional republic," which means that the role filled in a monarchy by the king or queen is instead filled by the codified body of law which controls the organization and functioning of the government. These terms have changed in their meanings since the United States was founded. Many of the Founders, especially Hamilton and the Federalists, were true elitists, who did not trust the "mobile faction" or "mob"--what Marxists call the *Lumpenproletariat*. Modern American political theory is far closer to the views of Thomas Jefferson and even more Andrew Jackson than to those of Washington, Adams, and Hamilton. If you limit your understanding of the original Constitutional debate to *The Federalist Papers*, you're only getting one part of the story--an important and eloquent part, but only a part. The argument that this country is a republic, "not a democracy," is a disingenuous statement which belies a desire to destroy the freedom of all those who are not white, Christian, and male. The truly revolutionary thing about the Constitution is that it institutionalizes revolution, making it possible to completely change the system of government without *overthrowing* that government. The United States has quite regularly changed its political philosophy, roughly every generation or every other generation. The last such change was the so-called "Reagan Revolution" (more correctly the "Reagan-Bush reaction") of the 1980's; the country appears poised for another paradigm shift today. Unfortunately, the nature of a paradigm shift is that it can never be fully recognized until nearly complete, which means that we won't know the nature of the new system until it has come about. I suspect that it will be populist, but the choice seems to be between Left and Right populism, with the Left beginning to coalesce around the Greens and the Right edging toward a crypto-fascist nationalism (if that's not a tautology) focused on Buchanan. Robert F. Tatman Information Technology Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jenkintown, PA, USA *Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.* A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
