[CTRL]

2004-04-19 Thread richard sanders
, corporations and groups mentioned
by Spivak. Sixteen of these sidebars, prepared specifically for this
issue of Press for Conversion!, were written by Richard Sanders,
the magazine's editor (Pages 8-30).
(3) Behind the Scenes: This section contains an article by
Richard Sanders, that exposes the backgrounds of 27 leading organizers
and financiers of the American Liberty League, the big-business
“super-organization” that General Butler identified as the main backers
behind the fascist coup plot. In researching these biographical sketches
(and the sidebars in section 2), more than 300 articles, books and
websites were used. (Also included are additional pages dealing with the
Bush family’s connection to Nazism and a dedication to four previous
writers/activists who helped expose the fascist plot against FDR (Pages
31-54).
Here is the Table of Contents (with links to a few pages):
“Facing the
Corporate Roots of American Fascism”
Press for Conversion!
(Issue #53) April 2004
(1) Setting the Stage:
Exposing the Legacy of American Corporatism 
http://members.rogers.com/roots53/3.pdf
The “Bonus Army” and the Torching of Hooverville 
http://members.rogers.com/roots53/4.pdf
Conflicting Versions of the Battle of Anacostia 
General Douglas MacArthur and President Herbert Hoover
Franklin Delano Roosevelt's (First Inaugural speech)
America’s Homegrown Fascism
(2) The Plot and the Main Players:
The Fascist Plot to Seize Washington 
http://members.rogers.com/roots53/8.pdf

Sidebars: 
Dickstein-McCormack Cttee 
Gerald MacGuire 
Grayson Murphy 
American Legion 
Bill Doyle 
Robert S. Clark 
Croix de feu 
Gen. Hugh S. Johnson 
Gen. Douglas MacArthur 
http://members.rogers.com/roots53/MacArthur.pdf 
Frank N. Belgrano, Jr 
Hanford MacNider 
New Masses 
Alfred E. Smith 
John J. Raskob 
The du Pont Company 
http://members.rogers.com/roots53/DuPont.pdf 
Irénée du Pont 
The House of Morgan 
http://members.rogers.com/roots53/Morgan.pdf 
Father Charles E. Coughlin 
The Crusaders 
General Smedley Butler 
(3) Behind the Scenes:
The American Liberty League
http://members.rogers.com/roots53/ALL.pdf 

Sewell Avery 
Thomas L. Chadbourne 
Dr. Samuel H. Church 
William L. Clayton 
Alfred W. Erickson 
Albert W. Hawkes 
Howard Heinz 
E.F. Hutton 
William S. Knudsen 
Andrew W. Mellon 
Nathan L. Miller 
George M. Moffett 
Pitcairn family 
J. Howard Pew 
John L. Pratt 
Joseph M. Proskauer 
David A. Reed 
Hal Roach 
Rockefeller Associates 
http://members.rogers.com/roots53/Rockefeller.pdf 
Pauline Sabin 
Jouett Shouse 
Alfred P. Sloan, Jr. 
William H. Stayton 
James W. Wadsworth,Jr. 
Ernest T. Weir 
Joseph E. Widener 
William Woodward, Sr . 
The Bush-Dulles-Nazi Connection
For a copy, send $5 to COAT:
COAT
541 McLeod St.
Ottawa ON K1R 5R2 Canada
Here's a coupon to subscribe or to order extra copies
http://members.rogers.com/roots53/coupon53.html


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[CTRL] The Corporate Roots of American Fascism

2004-04-19 Thread richard sanders
 the key
fascists, corporations and groups mentioned by Spivak. Sixteen of these
sidebars, prepared specifically for this issue of Press for Conversion!,
were written by Richard Sanders, the magazine's editor (Pages 8-30).
(3) Behind the Scenes: This section contains an article by Richard Sanders,
that exposes the backgrounds of 27 leading organizers and financiers of the
American Liberty League, the big-business “super-organization” that General
Butler identified as the main backers behind the fascist coup plot. In
researching these biographical sketches (and the sidebars in section 2),
more than 300 articles, books and websites were used. (Also included are
additional pages dealing with the Bush family’s connection to Nazism and a
dedication to four previous writers/activists who helped expose the fascist
plot against FDR (Pages 31-54).
Here is the Table of Contents (with links to a few pages):

“Facing the Corporate Roots of American Fascism”
Press for Conversion!(Issue #53)   April 2004
(1) Setting the Stage:
Exposing the Legacy of American Corporatism
http://members.rogers.com/roots53/3.pdf
The “Bonus Army” and the Torching of Hooverville
http://members.rogers.com/roots53/4.pdf
Conflicting Versions of the Battle of Anacostia
General Douglas MacArthur and  President Herbert Hoover
Franklin Delano Roosevelt's (First Inaugural speech)
America’s Homegrown Fascism
(2) The Plot and the Main Players:
The Fascist Plot to Seize Washington
http://members.rogers.com/roots53/8.pdf
Sidebars:
Dickstein-McCormack Cttee
Gerald MacGuire
Grayson Murphy
American Legion
Bill Doyle
Robert S. Clark
Croix de feu
Gen. Hugh S. Johnson
Gen. Douglas MacArthur
http://members.rogers.com/roots53/MacArthur.pdf
Frank N. Belgrano, Jr
Hanford MacNider
New Masses
Alfred E. Smith
John J. Raskob
The du Pont Company
http://members.rogers.com/roots53/DuPont.pdf
Irénée du Pont
The House of Morgan
http://members.rogers.com/roots53/Morgan.pdf
Father Charles E. Coughlin
The Crusaders
General Smedley Butler
(3) Behind the Scenes:
The American Liberty League
http://members.rogers.com/roots53/ALL.pdf
Sewell Avery
Thomas L. Chadbourne
Dr. Samuel H. Church
William L. Clayton
Alfred W. Erickson
Albert W. Hawkes
Howard Heinz
E.F. Hutton
William S. Knudsen
Andrew W. Mellon
Nathan L. Miller
George M. Moffett
Pitcairn family
J. Howard Pew
John L. Pratt
Joseph M. Proskauer
David A. Reed
Hal Roach
Rockefeller Associates
http://members.rogers.com/roots53/Rockefeller.pdf
Pauline Sabin
Jouett Shouse
Alfred P. Sloan, Jr.
William H. Stayton
James W. Wadsworth,Jr.
Ernest T. Weir
Joseph E. Widener
William Woodward, Sr .
The Bush-Dulles-Nazi Connection
For a copy, send $5 to COAT:

COAT
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Ottawa ON K1R 5R2  Canada
Here's a coupon to subscribe or to order extra copies
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[CTRL] Question to CRTL: Where are political contributors listed?

2004-01-23 Thread richard sanders
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Dear CRTL list:
Can anyone refer me to the best online sources of information that list
(in as complete a manner as possible) the corporate donors to US
political campaigns and politicians? 
thanks to anyone out there who can direct me to the best such online
sources.
I am interested in historic as well as current listings of such
donations.
cheers
Richard Sanders


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[CTRL] Fw: Massive ozone hole over city for first time (link only)

2000-10-06 Thread Sanders





http://www.msnbc.com/news/452791.asp?bt=nmbtu=http://www.msnbc.com/tools/newstools/d/news_menu.asp


[CTRL] in defense of June

2000-09-17 Thread Sanders



I just wanted to say that I admire June for calling these people on their 
inanities. I know how frustrating it is to let people that are so obnoxiously 
pompous just carry on. 

Aleisha, in my opinion, is as an overly righteous semi-literate windbag, 
her posts are barely understandable and she cries out for being knocked down a 
few pegs... Unfortunately, people like her are so dense and unwilling to change 
that it is pretty close to impossible to ever actually alter their views, or 
even get them to just shut the f' up.

So, June, I wanted to let you know that I completely agree.  I know someone 
said we shouldn't write "amen" type posts, but I couldn't help myself.

Maggie


Re: [CTRL] Birds of a Feather

2000-08-28 Thread Sanders

That's beautiful, Marilyn! It's a breath of fresh air.

Maggie
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From: "Marilyn Wright" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Birds of a Feather


: Funny, on my "Bird Tree" the BIG birds-- blue jays, cardinals,
: grackles, and blackbirds-- all come in togther and tend to chase
: the little songbirds--the finches, warblers, wrens, sparrows, and
: chicakdees away. But the little ones seem to know the minute the
: bigger birds are gone and come flocking in to eat their fill.
:
: Seems to me the big birds--ALL the big birds--tend to be bullies.
: But the little birds are patient and quick and clever and find a way
: to get theirs. And the longer I keep the tree and the feeders filled,
: the more I notice, as time goes on,  they all seem to be there at
: once. I love it. I feel like God supplying the manna from heaven.
: What power  And what a different view of power. :))
:
: sno0wl
:
: On 28 Aug 00, at 19:43, Ynr Chyldz Wyld wrote:
:
:  From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:   My grandson will go to private school, and I do not care if it is a
:   school for Druids so long as he is around like people - civil,
:   courteous, and white.   That is my choice.
: 
:  Well, well, well.  "Aleisha" shows "her" true feathers...
: 
: 
:   So birds of feather flock together, and my red birds still prefer to
:   eat alone as do my blue jays, and the black birds come in and hog
:   all the food.
: 
:  And what is your final solution to the 'black problem' and the 'gay
:  problem', eh "Aleisha"?
: 
: 
:  June
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[CTRL] Fw: queer-type dog

2000-06-16 Thread Sanders

Here ya go, Bard! Chalk one up for your side!

Maggie

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 4:54 PM
Subject: queer-type dog


:
: Man convicted for killing dog he thought was gay
: Thursday, June 15, 2000
:
:   Breaking News Sections
:
: (06-15) 12:43 PDT OCALA, Fla. (AP) -- A man accused of fatally beating a
dog
: because he thought it was gay was convicted of animal cruelty.  George
: Stephens Finley, 58, could get up to a year in jail.  Witnesses testified
: that Finley was upset that his wife's neutered male poodle-Yorkshire
terrier
: repeatedly tried to engage in sexual activity with another family dog, a
: male Jack Russell terrier.  ``He felt that the dog was a queer-type dog
and
: it made him angry,'' said Sheriff's Capt. Mike McQuaig.  Prosecutors said
: Finley hit the dog in the head with a plastic vacuum cleaner wand and
hurled
: it against a tree. The dog lapsed into a coma and was put to death.
Finley
: maintained he struck the dog accidentally.  A jury found him guilty
Tuesday.

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Re: [CTRL] E-Mail FREEZE-UPS. . .FOR ALL

2000-05-17 Thread Sanders

Maybe no one noticed it, but when Jim Condit first said he was having
trouble with Bill Richer's emails occasionally, I replied and said I also
have the same trouble.



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Subject: [CTRL] E-Mail FREEZE-UPS. . .FOR ALL


: This sounds like it is a mail reader problem or something to do with your
ISP.  IF, however it starts to spread and others start ohave a problem with
it then please let us know about it, otherwise please try to handle this
off-list, okay?
:
:
:
: On Wed, 17 May 2000, Mark McHugh wrote:
:
: 
:  Ynr Chyldz Wyld wrote:
:  
:   From: "Jim Condit Jr" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:What in the world is going on? Last night I ran into another CTRL
email that
:froze my email. I had to go into mailstart and get rid of it after I
:identified it. I didn't note the name, but now, tonight a CTRL email
froze
:me up under the name "William Shannon" --
:   
:I must say I find it interesting that I identify the "Bill Richer"
emails as
:being the cause of freeze up -- and then immediately the freeze up
begins to
:happen with emails sent under other names. Again, I'm not accusing
anyone, I
:just determined to get to the bottom of this strange problem. I've
lost
:hours trying to determine what was happening -- and to straighten
out the
:whole situation, probably days.
:  
:   Since it seems to only be happening to you (I haven't had any
problems, and
:   seemingly no one else, or at least very few), it would seem that this
subject
:   would be better handled by taking it off-list and discussing it with
your own
:   ISP and perhaps the ISPs of the emails you suspect are causing you a
problem.
:  
:   June
: 
:  I also had this problem a few times.  It hasn't happened to me since I
switched
:  ISPs back in February.  I use Netscape under Win95.  It seemed to happen
:  whenever someone emailed an article as an large attachment.  I wonder if
it's
:  the mailer.  Both BR and WS use AOL 5.0 for Windows.  I've also had
problems
:  with posts sent by MS Outlook on a Russian list.  The Cyrillic coding
would come
:  out garbled and freeze my Netscape.
: 
:  --
:  ~~
:  Mark McHugh
: 
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Re: [CTRL] Bill Richer's E-mails continue to freeze my mail.

2000-05-14 Thread Sanders

You know, I just noticed that recently myself, but didn't think much about
it. I figured it must have been a coincidence that it happened on his
emails. But now I see it probably isn't. I wonder why.
- Original Message -
From: Jim Condit Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2000 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Bill Richer's E-mails continue to freeze my mail.


: I send this out to Kris Milligan, Bill Richer, and the CTRL List.
:
: I repeatedly have "mail freeze ups" -- where the downloading of emails
STOPS
: at at one (but no means all) of Bill Richer's email.
:
: The only remedy is to go in to mailstart.com, which reads anyone's emails
: from a remote location, and delete all Bill Richer's emails in the
vicinity
: of the emails where the problem is occuring. Then, when I go back to my
: provider --  the email down loads fine.
:
: This is a real problem when I have several hundreds emails built up --
: because if it stops on say e-mail 337, that means that all 337 will be
: downloaded again after the Bill Richer emails are removed int he vicinity
of
: the problem.
:
: Again, I'm not accusing Bill Richer of anything, I'm just noting something
: in case someone can figure out what is going on. I understand the concept
of
: a "worm" may be involved, something I don't fully understand.
:
: Since this problem has persisted for months, I'm referring it to
Cincinnati
: Bell at fuse.net, my provider  -- to see if they can figure out anything.
I
: will keep the list posted, and I hope if anyone has a solution or a
similar
: problem, they will do the same. Jim Condit Jr.
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Re: [CTRL] Chrissie Hynde Arrested at GAP Protest in New York City.

2000-03-14 Thread Sanders



Mike must have "flunked spelling", and probably a lot more than that 
judging by his pathetic "commentary" and "parody". What a joke.I've rarely 
seen a better candidate for gettingsome "Ponic" help. 

"Maggie"

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  uaicvtmb 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 4:26 
  PM
  Subject: [CTRL] Chrissie Hynde Arrested 
  at GAP Protest in New York City.
  
  
  
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  From: Mike 
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  To:Friends  Associates: 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 9:12 AM
  Subject: Chrissie Hynda Arrested at GAP Protest in New 
  York City: 
   
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Chrissie Hynde arrested at 
Gap protest
(Launch) - Pretenders singer Chrissie Hynde was arrested in New York 
City last Thursday during an animal-rights protest at a Gap clothing 
store. A police representative said that approximately 20 protesters 
from the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals organization were 
protesting at a Gap store. The group was protesting the clothing chain's 
alleged purchase of black-market leather. After they had entered the 
store and began destroying goods, Hynde and three others were arrested 
and charged with criminal mischief at approximately 2 p.m. ET. Hynde and 
three other protestors were led away in handcuffs and taken to the 
Midtown North police precinct. Hynde said the clothing chain's leather 
jackets - with inside labels that read "Made in India" - are made of 
leather from cows slaughtered in India, where cows are considered 
sacred. 
"India does not import leather and it is the largest exporter of 
leather in the world. So it seems highly unlikely that the Gap buys its 
leather from America, where the slaughterhouse practices are considered 
humane and legal, and send the leather to India, stitch up the jacket 
and send it back to America." The Gap stated that the jackets were 
purchased from apparel factories. "Apparel factories often source their 
leather from other countries," the Gap statement read. "We expect 
apparel factories to source leather from vendors that follow applicable 
laws and the industry's best practices, including the humane treatment 
of animals." Hynde said she'd support the PETA cause forever. "I'm 
always available to PETA, including posthumously," she said. "I've 
agreed that they can use my image in any way at all after I die to 
promote the cause." 

[MIKE's COMMENTARY:
PETA = People Emphatically 
Totally Assine

Is it an Cosidence the 
Enterainers Last Name sounds like the Animal Skins She had
Destroyed at the "GAP Clothing 
Store" in NYC? Hynde = Hide Guess her family didn't
take "Hooked on Ponics", had 
"flunked spelling" and remedial "socialism accecptance
training". Meaning, She didn't 
get "spanked" on her 'hynde'ie' when she displayed her
anti-social behavior. I just can 
see the store's insurance claim for property damage being
rejected on the grounds that 
socailly disadvantaged rich Snotty people who have nothing
better to do with their lives or 
money destroying consumer goods in public fall in the 
catagory under "natural 
diasters, acts of God. And coordinated public display of 
moron
behavior based on ludicus 
rational intended to bring focus of fans for cheap media 
hype
to lead into future record 
sales. " The line that grabe the most attention of this 
moronic
behavior was that Hyde 
said,"...I'm always availible to PETA, including 
posthumously",
she said, "I've agreed that they 
can use my image in any way at all after I die to promote 
their 

Re: [CTRL] Bush Sr., Indians, Skull and Bones

2000-01-18 Thread Sanders
Title: Colaboration or Dictatorship #1 1500-2000



Laura Lee,
Is there any waythat you can exclude the very annoying pop-up 
ads??

P.S. 
It wouldn't hurt to use a little spell checking either.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Laura Lee 
  Lanning-Shipton 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 8:46 
  PM
  Subject: [CTRL] Bush Sr., Indians, Skull 
  and Bones
  Could this piece of history be why the Skull and Bonesthink 
  that they can go after Indians?http://ThePiedPiper.tripod.com/es_win1.htmafter 
  you read this pagego tohttp://ThePiedPiper.tripod.com/es_jail1.htmthen 
  think1) Safe kids by clonning, ect.2) Safe parents by creches (since 
  parents or schools 
  do 
  not seem to be able to raise kids3) Safe education by Virtual 
  Reality4) Safe SEX by Virtual Reality (since sex is suppose to 
  be dangerous, deseased, 
  ichy)So which company is counting on supplying theVirtual Reality 
  equipment? The Programming?Wonder if Larry Flynt has any stock in the 
  company?Why these things will not work - reference the above 
  number1) Life is diversity of ideas, beliefs, 
  cells, DNA and 
  bacteria ref: 
  http://ThePiedPiper.tripod.com/es_major.htm2) When parents are not allowed 
  to pass thier ideas and beliefs 
  to their children because it 
  does not seem as if those ideas 
  will allow the children 
  (invenstments) to survive, then 
  parents and eventually schools have 
  problems. If the people that are 
  backing control of reproduction 
  step down (and stop the 
  chemicals) - parents will be 
  able to parent. 
  http://ThePiedPiper.tripod.com/ch_01chem.htm 
  http://ThePiedPiper.tripod.com/es_peers.htm3) Safe education by Virtual 
  Reality will not work and my 
  ideas are a case in point. If I had 
  to worry about staying on 
  Clinton's and Bush's good side 
  (and backing their monoploy) would I 
  have coined the ideas in my 
  essays? Page with links about 
  Bush: 
  http://ThePiedPiper.tripod.com/index.htm4) Safe SEX by Virtual Reality 
  (since sex is suppose to be 
  dangerous, deseased, ichy) What 
  is a "survival index" for the human 
  race? There have been fads in 
  clothes - but skin is still 
  basic. There have been fads in 
  relationships, sex and having 
  children. Yet one sperm and one 
  egg is still basic as well as 
  the way that the sperm and egg 
  get togeather. Sex is a fun contact 
  sport. Confirmation of this: 
  male (and females) talk about it 
  almost as much as football and 
  basketball. What other item of 
  life (or sport) has such a wide 
  audience? 
  http://ThePiedPiper.tripod.com/essexars.htmhttp://ThePiedPiper.tripod.com/es_win1.htm--Any 
  person can stand adversity,The true test is to give a person 
  power.If you treat a relationship as if you are the only one in it, 
  eventuallyyou will be.Atrocities happen when the people about you 
  -start considering you surplus."I tolerate with the utmost 
  latitude the right ofothers to differ from me in 
  opinion"  Thomas Jefferson 
  brbrMy Grandfather told me there are two kinds of 
  people:those who do the work andthose who take the credit.He told 
  me to be in the first group -there is less competition there. 
  -Indira 
  Gandhihttp://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/~index.htmICQ 
  14484977NEWhttp://ThePiedPiper.tripod.com/site_map.htm
  
  

  
  
  
  
  
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  Colaboration or Dictatorship #1 1500-2000
  or
  
  The Theory of Evolution #1 1500-2000By Laura Lanning-Shipton 
  / Freelance WriterThe arrival of Pocahontas in Europe (in the early 
  1600's) came at a time of Religious upheaval. The Christian church had split 
  into several different fractions. The overall theme seemed to be in a less 
  formal, less historical type of service. The King James version of the bible 
  was commisioned in 1611, with a defination of anyone believing in nature as 
  witches. This mindset eventually led to some churches being torn down during 
  the French revolution. 
  This quote from the book of Civilisation p.296"The moving 
fact about the early revolution is that men's belief in a new world was so 
concrete and sharp that they could decide to change the calendar - making 
the year 1792 Year one, and renameing the months. The change of years was a 
nuisance, but the new names of the months - Ventose, thermidor, Brumaire and 
so forth, the windy one, the hot one, the misty one - are poetical, and I 
wish they had survived. They express the love of nature which had become so 
closely entwined with the revolution. The same desire to return to nature 
affected women's fashions. All the artificial framework of the eighteenth 
century is thrown away, and the dresses follow the lines of the body with 
gracful simplicity [204]. No more high, powdered wigs, but flowing locks, 
with a simple bandeau. Madame Recamier, the most famous and inaccessible 

Re: [CTRL] to Bard

1999-12-29 Thread Sanders

 -Caveat Lector-

I had to laugh right at first because I had friend who whenever I saw him,
would tell me to give him a "famous Maggie hug"!

Anyway, to answer your question, NO WAY. I probably think he is as horrible
as you do. He's a sociopath at the least and I can't even stand to hear his
voice - makes me want to go take a shower to wash the slime off. Kind of
like how I felt reading your inference that I'm the kind of person who would
love to get down on my knees for the president.

Thanks for the dialog, Bard. I enjoyed it. Sort of.
- Original Message -
From: Bard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] to Bard


: -Caveat Lector-
:
: A final question, Maggie!
: Are you the type of person that if the rapist (klintoon) was standing
: next to you, you would rush up to him and give him one of those famous
: 'Maggie Hugs' because you are devoutly supportive of his polices, and,
: you would you feel safe alone with him?
:
: If you give me the courtesy of a reply, then we can terminate our dialog
: and I will remove your Name from my Address Book.
:
: Bard
:
: 1 Corinthians 6:9
: Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God?
: Do not be deceived:
: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers
: nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
:
: Sanders wrote:
: 
:   -Caveat Lector-
: 
:  Well, Honey, since you actually replied I feel compelled to at least
:  acknowledge that. I have to say though that you are incredibly
:  condescending. Thank you so much for the reprimand regarding my
language.
:  All I really needed was a man to put in me in my place! I never realized
:  that before. My only excuse is that  when I come across a pile of
steaming
:  feces, such as your post on gays and women, I will sometimes be known to
:  utter a few expletives. But no more, I promise. Thankfully, I have the
:  delete button.
: 
:  Just so you know, I care deeply, too. That's  part of why I feel upset
when
:  I read the opinions you have. It's so far from where we need to be. I
feel
:  sad when I think of you bringing up another generation of condescending,
:  self satisfied haters.
: 
:  I think that the people that are running the planet into the ground have
the
:  same basic thinking as you, only they apply their hatred of people
equally.
:  In my opinion, you are just a smaller version of them.
: 
:  Very sincerely,
:  Maggie
:  - Original Message -
:  From: Bard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:  Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 7:06 PM
:  Subject: Re: [CTRL] Bauer: Gay [homo]Couples Akin to Terrorism
: 
:  : -Caveat Lector-
:  :
:  : Your wrong, Sweetheart.  I care deeply what others think and I
consider
:  : it very presumptuous on your part to think otherwise.  When one
strives
:  : to live in the grace of our Lord one has to be capable of dealing with
:  : those
:  : who are critical of that desire.  People who possess guilt about their
:  : lifestyle are the first to criticize and reveal their guilt of
:  : resentment
:  : towards those who try to follow the path of Jesus Christ.
:  : There is more to Life than feeling good.  God has granted you the
:  : precious gift of being able to judge what is right and what is wrong;
:  : this He has
:  : done to ensure you stay on the path of righteous in accordance with
His
:  : Will.  When one departs from the Path it is because one has allowed
the
:  : stench of one's environment to enter one's Soul.
:  :
:  :
:  : It's always been my understanding that the use of foul language is not
:  : permitted on the List.  Use of such indicates a certain weakness or
:  : inability to express oneself coherently.
:  : You have your views of the role of the female, and you should permit
:  : others to hold and express their views;  even though those views are
:  : much more traditional than yours.  The ascendancy of the female is a
:  : goal of the Fabian Socialists who will stop at nothing to destroy our
:  : constitutional Republic.  If two people of the same sex wish to
:  : cohabitate
:  : that is their business and no one's else;  the problem occurs when
they
:  : want recognition by heterosexuals of their lifestyle which is an
:  : abomination in the eyes of our Lord.
:  : God Blesses Those Who Bless You!
:  : Bard
:  :
:  : Sanders wrote:
:  : 
:  :   -Caveat Lector-
:  : 
:  :  Thank you, Andrew!
:  : 
:  :  It really pisses me off to read the crap Bard sometimes writes, but
I
:  know
:  :  that questioning him on his views doesn't work because he NEVER
replies
:  to
:  :  anything that doesn't agree with him already. Also, since I am one
of
:  those
:  :  humans who need "to go back in the box" I know he doesn't give a
shit
:  about
:  :  what I think. Just another Eve...
:  : 
:  :  What I'm thanking you for is replying to him in such a way that I
look
:  at
:  :  what you say and feel good again!
:  : 
:  :  Maggie
:  

Re: [CTRL] to Bard

1999-12-29 Thread Sanders

 -Caveat Lector-

Hi Bill,

Unfortunately I can't go in to detail about my very extraordinary physical
attributes because my wonderful husband is standing right over my shoulder.
He assures you though that my hugs are quite wonderful and that I "bring it
on" awesomely, but he is pretty adamant that I only do that with him :}

Thank you for your words of support and the big smile I got when I read
them.


- Original Message -
From: William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] to Bard


: -Caveat Lector-
:
: In a message dated 12/29/99 9:16:57 PM Central Standard Time,
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
:
:   would rush up to him and give him one of those famous
:  'Maggie Hugs'  
:
: Well "Bard"...and BTW are you a Bacon??? 'Cause as we all know t'was Bacon
: who wrote all that we ascribe the "Bard"...
: Anyhoo, I know that I'll take one of them there "Maggie Hugs"...provided
: she's HOT, preferably BLONDE, and not too ignorantwhich THIS Maggie
has
: PROVEN she isn't.
: S Maggieif you're cute and not a pig...bring it on
babe!
:
: Bill.
:
: DECLARATION  DISCLAIMER
: ==
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: frauds is used politically  by different groups with major and minor
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Re: [CTRL] Bauer: Gay [homo]Couples Akin to Terrorism

1999-12-28 Thread Sanders

 -Caveat Lector-

Thank you, Andrew!

It really pisses me off to read the crap Bard sometimes writes, but I know
that questioning him on his views doesn't work because he NEVER replies to
anything that doesn't agree with him already. Also, since I am one of those
humans who need "to go back in the box" I know he doesn't give a shit about
what I think. Just another Eve...

What I'm thanking you for is replying to him in such a way that I look at
what you say and feel good again!

Maggie

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