[CTRL] Conspiracy in the business world
-Caveat Lector- Control, control, control of commerce in a very few hands. Put a stranglehold on the control of money and jobs and see how quickly people fall into line with the new line of thinking. Just tell a businessman that he's out of compliance and he can be forced to kiss toes, go to court, or go out of business. A friend wrote the following and I thought it should be shared. Sometimes seeing a conspiracy only means getting an insight on what is happening. The author was willing to share his insight but want his privacy. I told him I would share any feedback he received. -- An official trade association ostensibly provides government advocacy in behalf of the specific industry, to ease the burden of federal and state regulations that impact our industry. Such organizations exist for all industries, most likely with similar goals and activities. We have the impression that they are there to obtain regulatory relief in the form of legal, scientific and administrative challenges to regulatory nonsense. They should be out there suing the agencies and lobbying Congress to overturn bad laws that hurt our industry. But over the last ten years I have continually noticed their lethargy at that stated cause. If anything, they are most effective at facilitating the implementation of those rules and laws within the industry, not fighting them. In fact, at times I was ostracized by certain members of the orgainzation I was involved with for doing too much alerting and not enough facilitating. However, even more important to this organization than the conditioning process to accept and adopt burdensome and silly regulations has been the promotion of the world economy and global village, or in other words, the greening of the industry, through the implementation of their Environmental Management System (EMS), which is patterned after the Chemical Manufacturer's Association EMS, Responsible Care. After criticizing the program to a couple of their change agents at a conference in Chicago a few years ago, and being rejected out of hat, I found the opportunity to spend some special time one night at the restaurant with one of their principle litigators. After a while he started sharing and began toying with me to lighten up on globalism. We had been talking about new age and environmentalism, most of which bounced right off his countenance, when we started talking about our backgrounds. He confessed that his spiritual hero in school was none other than Pierre Teilhard deChardin, the father of the omega man theory of planetary evolution. We talked about Point Omega and Jim wanted to make sure that I didn't have a misconception of it. After a lengthy explanation, he indicated that he fully believed in Teilhard's prophecy of the emergence of the global being, divine matter of us all, but he prefaced it with a warning. If we don't get with this cosmic program, when the omega point does precipitate, it will be a total, final destruction. But if we get on the ball now and prepare for it properly, we may survive it as the emergent global divinity. His mission in life was apparently to help us all prepare for that inevitable point in our collective evolution and make sure that the earth survives the final cut. His reason for uncharacteristically sharing this vision with me was to pry me off of my resistant bandwagon to cooperate with his and the association's greater agenda. Since then, the organization has been coming out of their new age closet showing more and more of their rainbow colors, but still careful to play the advocacy game, as if they really cared about beaurocracy. In fact, quite to the contrary, that same night he explained to me that increasing states of red tape and regulations could effectively serve the Plan by creating a more complicated world order. With higher states of complication comes higher states of disorder and thus higher order is needed to respond to it. Our stress is just growing pains to an emerging planetary management system, a sort of super-brain to regulate all of this growing red tape. This Hegelian process drives the emergence of the higher planetary divinity, like labor drives the baby from the womb. As he explained it in true Teilhardian style, the increasing states of meiosis increases the number of cells in the zygote. In a closed system, eventually this constant complexification must infold again and again in order to contain itself, creating the seeds of internal organs and limbs and other diverse proto body parts. As the system continues to grow through complexification, eventually the womb can no longer contain the growing embryo and he finally emerges from his closed environment, as it were, in an instant. As he was explaining all of this, it dawned on me that more laws, reglations, codes and standards literally drives our organized response resulting
Re: [CTRL] Zero tolerance
-Caveat Lector- I wish I could take credit for writing the following, but it was written by someone else. Although it was written in response to another problem, the following indicates one of the reasons for the zero tolerance trend in the schools. Parents should be aware of the book Education in the New Age by Alice Bailey to understand what is happening in their children's schools. Treating one's fellow man with respect should be a result of knowledge and thinking for oneself and not a result of forced conformity, repression and groupthink. "I think the key statement here is psychological training, which has effectively replaced academic specialization in teacher training. This goes back to the New Age conspiracy, which was labeled the "Aquarian Conspiracy" by author Marylin Ferguson in 1981. Please note that the official vehicle for the new age movement, Theosophy, was founded over a hundred years before Ferguson's blockbuster book was published. As of the late forties, theosophical medium Alice Bailey of Lucis Trust predicted that the education of the new age would be characterized by teachers trained as psychological facilitators for globalism and political correctness, rather than specialists in certain fields of knowledge. "The general trend of his education will be more psychological than in the past and the information thus gained will be geared to his peculiar situation. All children have certain assets and should be taught how to use them; these they share with the whole of humanity, irrespective of race or nationality." Education in the New Age http://www.netnews.org/bk/education/edu1026.html "The errors and mistakes of the past techniques are obvious but there is no need to waste time in emphasizing them or in piling up instances. What is needed is a realization of the immediate opportunity, plus the recognition that the required shift in objectives and change in methods will take much time. We shall have to train our teachers differently and much time will be lost as we grope for the new and better ways, develop the new textbooks and find the men and women who can be impressed with the new vision and who will work for the new civilization. I have sought only to emphasize principles and I do this with the recognition that many of them are by no means new but that they require new emphasis. I have endeavored to show that now is the day of opportunity, for everything has to be built up again, for everything has been destroyed in the greater part of the world. The war has demonstrated that we have not taught aright. A better educational system should, therefore, be worked out which will present the possibilities of human living in such a manner that barriers will be broken down, prejudices removed and a training given to the developing child which will enable him, when grownup, to live with other men in harmony and goodwill. This can be done, if patience and understanding are developed and if educators realize that "where there is no vision, the people perish." "An international system of education, developed in joint conference by broadminded teachers and educational authorities in every country, is today a crying need and would provide a major asset in preserving world peace. Steps towards this are already being taken and today groups of educators are getting together and discussing the formation of a better system which will guarantee that the children of the different nations (beginning with the millions of children now demanding education) will be taught truth, without bias or prejudice. World democracy will take form when men everywhere are regarded in reality as equal; when boys [88] and girls are taught that it does not matter whether a man is an Asiatic, an American, a European, British, a Jew or a Gentile but only that each has an historical background and history which enables him to contribute something to the good of the whole, and that the major requirement is an attitude of goodwill and a constant effort to foster right human relations. World Unity will be a fact when the children of the world are taught that religious differences are largely a matter of birth; that if a man is born in Italy, the probability is that he will be a Roman Catholic; if he is born a Jew, he will follow the Jewish teaching; if born in Asia, he may be a Mohammedan, a Buddhist, or belong to one of the Hindu sects; if born in other countries, he may be a Protestant and so on. He will learn that the religious differences are largely the result of man made quarrels over human interpretations of truth. Thus gradually, our quarrels and differences will be offset and the idea of the One Humanity will take their place." "Much greater care will have to be given in picking and training the teachers of the future. Their mental attainments and their knowledge of their particular subject will be of importance, but more important still will be the need for them to be free from prejudice and to see all men as
Re: [CTRL] Chamish: Sharon - No Celebration (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- J2, If you have something to say about Chamish's latest writings, say them. If not, it's just character assassination. Saying or writing anything beyond the cliches that are a substitute for what passes for information about the world around us will make one a target to be attacked in this way. Sometimes the criticism is valid, other times not. Not having seen your past responses, I have only your word that your attacks were valid. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Deke Bones
-Caveat Lector- Reading advice: Always be wary of those who post a few facts and lard them over with a ton of namecalling. The emotional impact of the namecalling is supposed to linger when the factual information goes down in the pile of accumulated information. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Dangers of the New Age movement
-Caveat Lector- For those who may have been trying to reach the site on New Age which I posted a while back, I just received the following note from Hannah: "Apparently my research may have been *too* good. Site went down only a week after launch, apparently hackers. At the time it was logging 100 hits a day. The Virtual Jerusalem webmaster has yet to explain what happened." Hannah is working on an alternative site for the material now, but until it is very secure, I cannot post the information. I will redo the post in the future if I can for readers of this board. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Dangers of the New Age movement
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/17/00 10:42:03 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subj: Re: [CTRL] Dangers of the New Age movement Never did I think I would be writing to the "Great Saba." She of the whispers in the dark style of writing. She of the crystal ball gypsy style of fortune telling. Whispers, phrases, suggestions, hints, allusions. Great mysteries. Passageways with powerful men in dark suits whispering undeciphered secrets into microphones hidden in walls. Who can remember all of the "important" prophecies you make and challenge you on them later, particularly when like the $2.00 gypsy, it is all vague. Frankly Saba, there is a lot going on that isn't reported, but your writing style is much more impressive than your information. New Age--one world government, one world religion. For very practical reasons, as Mortimer Adler pointed out, the one world religion can't be Jewish or Christian because they promote a moral code which must be taken on faith before even before it is justified through the experience of real life. The Eastern religions are acceptable because they promote a kind of vague "spirituality." The Manley Hall type of occultism is very acceptable because those so inclined can intellectually muck around in all of the symbolism for all of their lives without ever having to make a moral decision that results in a moral act. Buddhism is probably the most acceptable to this group. Unity of culture is the goal of promoting the one world religion. Tell me did you ever see a movie where they knock the Zionists? There are no movies around attacking Zionism because enough to suit the nasty little antisemites of that has already been done in the newspapers and through other media on a daily basis. The leftist Postzionists are doing the job in Israel already. Hitler thought he was bringing in the New Age. He deluded himself into thinking the role was his after contact with the Theosophists and Thulists. Hitler went after the Jews first because they were the smallest group. Christians were to be next, after the war, but they were needed to fight the war for the smaller group of New Agers, so the German Christians were suckered in, leaving the Confessing group to fight the Nazis alone on that front. The Catholics were a major target because they attempted resistance, and had the organization to make a dent in the Nazi movement. Unfortunately they compromised too early, losing many of their own people in the camps and in the war zones. It's what happens when one compromises with evil people. How in the name of heavens can one trust the same leadership not to lie those who killed by the millions, starting with the handicapped, the mentally ill, the elderly, etc. How easy it is to be self-deluded, trying to read all of the clues in the suggestions of the vague New Age beliefs. Somewhere in the supernatural belief system of the Christians is the suggestion that when the Fallen Angel tempts humans away from the moral code, he lets them rise, then he laughs with contempt at their weakness and disposes of them as one would a piece of dirt. Perhaps that was Hitler's end. Saba, I have no doubt that you are an insider, but the question should remain for most reading these posts, which side are you on? My guess it's the same side as Savitri Devi was on. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Dangers of the New Age movement
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/12/00 10:37:35 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why should the rest of us take anyone's word one way or the other? The word of any individual is insufficient. Let's see some proof. Reply: You're right. Read the site. There are many people doing research on New Age, though they may not post to this board. At this point either you know what is going on in that area or you don't. Research on New Age isn't a one hook conspiracy theory. I put my post on this board to alert those who have worked in that area. I don't intend to intrude on the debates that regulars enjoy here. Now back to the regular programming. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Dangers of the New Age movement
-Caveat Lector- I didn't find any issues of Nexus worth keeping after I picked a few up here in Chicago, so I don't have specifics to turn back at you. Go spit your venom somewhere else. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Dangers of the New Age movement
-Caveat Lector- This is an excellent site for those who know nothing about the dangers to our society coming from the New Age movement and those who wish to learn more about this very extensive topic. Hannah Newman, a Jewish researcher who lives in Israel, recently sent out a notice about her site as follows: "My new, greatly expanded and updated research on New Age antisemitism is now on line. Go to: http://homestead.virtualjerusalem.com/antisemitism/index.html" A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Dangers of the New Age movement
-Caveat Lector- Duncan of Nexusthanks for letting us know of your New Age connection. It certainly fits in with your pushing of Icke with his vicious antisemitism and the rest of your rag which sells in New Age bookstores as well as to militia people. Why in the word would anyone take your word that New Age is not organized? Because you publish disinformation in your magazine to get those who are trying to learn what is going on running in seventeen different directions, all of which lead to dead ends? By the way, read more carefully. I'm not Hannah. I was just telling others of her site. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Stupid, or Just Predjudiced?
-Caveat Lector- No Democrats voted for Gore. There is no Democratic party. There are only Republicans and Independents. Now you know the rest of the story. In a message dated 12/4/00 12:06:40 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When this bruhaha started, I was not a backer of either of these Bozo's. However, watching things develope, and listening to the rhetoric on both sides, I am currently hoping that Gore wins. and from another post: Democrats must think Bush elector Berta Moralejo is a potential swing vote. Her phone rings incessantly, she said â up to 25 calls on some days. Letters beseeching her to consider Mr. Gore started pouring in a little over two weeks ago. "They always try to tell me that they aren't for either candidate and then tell me that I should vote for the other party," said Miss Moralejo, a Tampa resident. "They don't talk about anything substantial. They say that they are independent, but they all want me to vote for Al Gore. There's no way," A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Der Fuerer BUSH and the Weyrich SS
-Caveat Lector- Almost correct Damien. Abortion raises the IQ level of the population because those stupid enough to kill off their own children must have very low IQs to begin with. There are very serious arguments against abortion and, at the other end of the life cycle, euthanasia, but those unwilling to listen again are determining the future IQ level of the gene pool. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] MP child rapist
-Caveat Lector- I will not back off. One of the major ways a culture is changed is thru the desensitization process. No one leaps into degenerate behavior without being desensitized one step at a time. People who would corrupt others are very skilled at moving them along step by step. So all of you who have no problem reading a detailed description of a sexual act with a child, what are you going to do about it now that you know the details. Probably not a thing. Make a contribution to a group fighting child porn? Write a letter somewhere? Report someone on the web who is sending out child porn? Condemn NAMBLA? No. You can't even take a stand against child porn anonymously on a board such as this. You will sit back and pat yourselves on the back for being non-judgmental about one who posts child pornography on a public site such as this. This is not only about child porn. It's how we've become desensitized to all manner of cruelty and violence on a personal level, only getting upset when the crowd leaders tell us it is time to act. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] MP child rapist
-Caveat Lector- Thanks Kelly for supporting what I wrote. Mature adults know what sexual child abuse is without watching child porn tapes. Those who post on these boards and claim to be adult enough to discuss various theories in a mature manner should have vocabularies large enough not to need graphic detailed descriptions of all manner of criminal behavior and sexual abberations. Immature individuals are those who get their jollies thinking they have slipped one past others...e.g., "I've tricked you into reading child pornography though you would never read it otherwise." The original poster should clean the slobber off his face and move on. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] MP child rapist
-Caveat Lector- Must we get this kind of pornographic details from this list. Whether it is written from a pervert's point of view or a reporters point of view, it is still disgusting and very offensive. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Kalman + Murray Lies about NEXUS/David Icke
-Caveat Lector- Kalman and Murray are right on target about Icke. He networks the milita and New Age fields, spewing his antisemitism in both areas. Kalman and Murray were leftists who were concerned that this individual was fouling Green movement territory, not understanding that New Age, which the Green movement is part of, comes from the same sources as the Nazi movement did. They were left, thought they were attacking the right, not realizing they were getting too close to the roots of the left's interests. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Kalman + Murray Lies about NEXUS/David Icke
-Caveat Lector- Icke is a slick spokesman who tells those very new to conspiracy theory what they think is new information. You said the material quoted wasn't from Icke. Well, here are some of his many nasty, undocumented pieces of "information." From The Robot's Rebellion by David Icke. After a major distortion of Jewish history, he writes: "Incidentally, Jewish people trace their ancestry back to Abraham and the times we are discussing, but today the Jewish majority are Ashkenazim Jews, who, Arthur Koestler claims, originated from a Turkish tribe who converted in the 8th century as an alternative to being forced to espouse Islam or Christianity." and "The Jews became traders, valuers, moneylenders and pawnbrokers, buying and selling primarily rather than producing." and "The theme of constant conflict will be seen throughout human history. The Luciferic consciousness and the human expression of that consciousness do not care what causes the conflict. A sense of religious or racial superiority, greed, lust for power, anything will do. They will support a nation when it suits them and cause it to be destroyed when it doesn't. All they want is for negative energy to be produced in abundance to serve the master Lucifer and for humanity to remain so divided and awash with fear and the pressure of everyday life that they won't open their minds for long enough to see what is really going onetc. etc. etc." and of Hitler... "Most of the main players in the Nazi regime, probably including Hitler, escaped. He and his lady, Eva Braun, did not die in the bunker..." and "Religions like Christianity, Islam and Judaism and so many others have survived this long by fear, indoctrination and imposition. Without these they would have been long gone. In their extreme forms they amount to nothing less than spiritual fascism..." and from "and the truth shall set you free" another book" "We live in nations afraid of the people and in a world afraid of the people. We cling to dogmas that are afraid of the people. Those who wish to suppress by whatever means alternative versions of history which challenge the official line are also afraid of the people--afraid that their manipulation will be exposed by such a free flow of information. The way the Jewish mind has been so seriously manipulated by the Jewish hierarchy over the centuries has had another effect. Like the Roman Catholic Church and other religious and racial tyrannies, Judaism and more recently Zionism, has used fear and guilt to maintain control of its peopleThe Talmud, the Jewish book of law, contains among other little gems, the following: "Just the Jews are human, the non-Jews are no humans but cattle." (Kerithuth 6b, page 78, Jebhammoth 61); "The non-Jews have been created to serve the Jews as Slaves" (Midrash Talpioth 225); "Sexual intercourse with non-Jews is like sexual intercourse with animals" (Kethuboth 3b) "The non-Jews have to be avoided, even more than sixk pigs (Orach Chaiim57 6a)...etc." and "The irony is that the racism of extreme Jews and the racism of Adolph Hitler are both based on a colossal myth. As Alfred Lilienthal, the Jewish research and writer said:...etc. and "The conditioned thought patterns in the collective Jewish mind have repeatedly created the physical reality of oppression, prejudice, and racism which matches the pattern--the expectation--programmed into their collective psyche. They expect it; they create it...etc." and "Of all the people I meet, those brought up in the Roman Catholic and Jewish faith are among the most screwed up mentally and emotionally. This is no coincidence. Both faiths brainwash children with guilt and fear from the earliest age." Icke is in person a charmer who is bringing the far right and far left together with undocumented garbage material. Anyone who has ever looked at standard antisemitic, Nazi New Age type material has seen the above over and over again. It is just Hitler recycled. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A
Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: [The Grip] Fwd: Homosexuals commit 55% of child molestations.
If everyone kept their mouth shut and everyone acted alike, what kind of a world would we have? A world full of North Shore liberals. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
