[CTRL] HERE'S THE PROOF

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HERE'S THE PROOF



Oct 3 2001




By Oonagh Blackman


THE first proof of Osama bin Laden's involvement in the terror attacks on
America was revealed yesterday.

Investigators have discovered that three of the suicide hijackers returned a
$15,000 surplus from the estimated $500,000 attack fund to a bin Laden
contact's account in Dubai just 48 hours before the atrocities.

They were obeying the orders of bin Laden, who is said to be penny-pinching
despite his multi-million pound fortune.

Government officials in the United Arab Emirates in the Gulf have uncovered
bank accounts in Dubai linked to a man described as a key bin Laden money
man.

The man arrived in the UAE at the end of June and left for Pakistan on
September 11, the day the terrorists struck New York and Washington.

On September 9 the man, who has not been named by the UAE authorities,
received three separate wire transfers from America totalling $15,000.

UAE officials said the cash was left over from planning the US atrocities
and was returned to finance new attacks.

Sources said one $5,000 payment was sent by Marwan al-Shehhi, one of the
hijackers on United Airlines Flight 175 that crashed into the World Trade
Center south tower.

The other two, both of $5,000 each, were sent by ringleader Mohamed Atta and
Waleed M Alshehri, who were on American Airlines Flight 11 that hit the WTC
north tower.

A senior source close to the investigation yesterday described it as
shocking...that at least three of the hijackers were tying up loose ends
like surplus cash only 48 hours before they went out to kill thousands of
innocent people.

But their actions have blown up in their faces because they have opened up
important new leads in the hunt to disrupt bin Laden's financial empire.

It has taken us closer to the money men who are bankrolling evil.

The payments to the bin Laden money man, believed to be a Saudi passport
holder, are another crucial piece of the jigsaw linking bin Laden to the US
attacks.

And they have opened up new leads in the investigation into the complex
finances of the terrorist leader's Al Qaeda organisation.

Investigators believe a money trail linking bin Laden to the US attacks was
orchestrated by one his most trusted aides. Cash to fund the hijackings
flowed between banks in at least three countries in the run-up to the
atrocities.

Sheikh Saeed, also known as Mustafa Mohamed Ahmad, was identified as a key
financial manager for bin Laden, bankrolling terrorists preparing for the
September 11 suicide attacks on New York and Washington.

The base for a number of bank accounts controlled by Ahmad is thought to be
Dubai.

The United Arab Emirates central bank has now frozen all of Ahmad's accounts
and accounts linked to 25 other people and organisations identified by US
Treasury officials as al-Qaeda suspects.

Another 13 bank accounts, holding £900,000, have been frozen in the German
cities of Munich and Hamburg.

Investigators traced money transfers to Florida on September 8 and 9, from
an account under Ahmad's name in Dubai.

The funds were paid to Mohamed Atta, the ringleader of the 19 hijackers.
Investigators have also identified a further transfer of cash from a bank
account in Florida, where Atta stayed, to Dubai before September 11.

Ahmad did the financial fixing for several hijackers to live in Florida and
pay for flying lessons.

A UAE government minister disclosed that a man with a Saudi Arabian
passport - suspected to be Ahmad - left the UAE for Pakistan on the day of
the US attacks.

The FBI is chasing up to 100,000 leads as it tries to nail down the
international cash flow.

A Muslim terrorist said to have confessed to planning to blow up the US
Embassy in Paris on the orders of bin Laden has denied any involvement.
Lawyers for Franco-Algerian Djamel Beghal, who was extradited to France from
Dubai on Monday, said yesterday: He has contested being commissioned by
anybody to organise, prepare and carry out terrorist acts, notably against
US interests in Paris.

They added that earlier statements by Beghal linking him with bin Laden were
made in indeterminate circumstances in Dubai.


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Re: [CTRL] Zeta Talk on the Attack

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Heh heh heh...welcome to La La Land, alternative means the Zeta
Reticuli(SP) or to be more precise Space Aliens. This woman Nancy Lieder is
supposedly in contact with the Zeta's, a former confidant of hers a few
years ago came forth and stated mental illness also ran in her family
history. As I remember she also stated according to the Zeta's that
civilization as we know it was coming to an end somewhere between 2001 and
2003.


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 This is an interesting alternative view of the motives..

 http://www.zetatalk.com/govmt/g127.htm

 ZetaTalk: Attack on America

 Yes and no, this is what it seems on the surface - an attack by
 Bin Laden on
 the corrupt capitalist country that has led so many attacks on Muslim
 countries. But this attack would not have occurred unless infighting among
 the financial giants of the world, the major banks, had not occurred.
 Infighting was the instigator, and the primary culprit, but this
 culprit will
 not be the scapegoat. In the infamous attack on America on September 11,
 2001, several unlikely bedfellows crawled into bed with each
 other, each for
 their own ends. Thus, where on the surface it seems a repeat of
 the Bin Laden
 attack on the World Trade Center in New York City, failed in the past and
 tried before the world in the courts, this was only using as the bullet a
 Muslim group that would be immediately suspect and placate most inquiring
 minds. The gun was held, however, by a rival bank of JP Morgan, who was
 devastated in the attack.

 The Stock Markets and worth of so much paper the banks and
 wealthy rely upon
 for their status and control are being artificially maintained at
 this time,
 the longer to keep these elite on their high perch. We mentioned
 in November,
 1999 that cooperation between the world's banking giants and
 governments was
 in place, toward this end. One means of this artificial support is to put
 forth losers, so that the general public might win and thus maintain their
 confidence to continue to play the game that the Stock Markets
 represent. Key
 players are to enter the field and take a loss, aborting panic, as this is
 considered a lesser problem than a full scale panic. Where this
 plan met with
 general approval, now that tight times and a worldwide recession
 has become a
 reality, there is argument among the players. You go first, no
 you go first,
 and these arguments have gotten heated. Many felt the time would
 never come,
 so agreement was only in principal, not from the heart. Thus those in the
 financial field with greater clout, threatened to force lesser
 participants
 to be the loser, and dark thoughts crossed many minds.

 During the day of the attack, there were three things that stood
 out from the
 horror and stunned confusion that goes with any unexpected catastrophe.

 The first was the absence of the President from a role of
 confrontation and
 comfort. He was hiding, on the run, not seen as in command, and
 took hours to
 even muster a presence other than a statement or two repeating
 the obvious.
 It was clear to all that the Vice President, remaining in the White House,
 was running things. The lack of leadership was so apparent that this was
 mentioned repeatedly by the newscasters.

 The second was the repeated mention that such a well planned and executed
 attack had to have more than the usual terrorist support, had to
 be supported
 by or in countries unnamed. Muslim pilots were trained in major aircraft
 operations, undoubtedly in training simulation settings. Were
 they referring
 to Afghanistan, primitive and suffering from drought so severe
 the people are
 starving? They were referring to a sophisticated country, with the
 infrastructure capable of training Muslim pilots on the flight
 deck of these
 major commercial aircraft.
 The third was that the CIA had been clueless, a trend of late but
 so complete
 a blackout had occurred that it seemed beyond belief. Had this occurred in
 prior terrorist attacks? The terrorists were familiar enough with
 US airport
 security and the routines and roles of the staff to be able to
 successfully
 commandeer four planes, delivering the payload of three of them
 into the New
 York skyline and the Pentagon itself. No only was the CIA in the dark, it
 seems the intel went in the other direction!

 The heads of the US government were too frightened, the attack too well
 planned and executed, for this to be just a terrorist attack. And
 JP Morgan
 affiliates resided on several floors of the World Trade Center and were a
 casualty of the sudden devastation - executives, records, and
 confidence of
 the market and public in dealing with them going out in a flash.
 The target
 was the banking systems holding 

[CTRL] Fw: Bin Laden And How Clinton Destroyed The C.I.A.

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 It's time to root out all these idiots completely from any
 government position as we find and destroy terrorism. They are part of
 the problem, if not the biggest problem.

 http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/9/30/193757.shtml

More CIA Revelations – Political Correctness Kills
Christopher Ruddy
Monday, Oct. 1, 2001
When former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called the infamy of
Sept. 11 a wake-up call from hell, he meant just that. His
characterization demands repeating again – and again – because worse than
Sept. 11 will happen unless we heed the call.
I am not so sure the commissars of political correctness, which so dominates
our media, our government bureaucracies and other institutions, are willing
to unshackle the will of the American people and allow us to destroy the
terrorists and the nations that back them.

President Bush has done a remarkable job – especially in light of the hand
he inherited from the previous administration. It is also important to
remember that a hidden problem for the Bush administration is that the U.S.
government, including our Pentagon, CIA and other agencies, is still largely
run by appointees of Clinton-Gore or the career military and bureaucrats
Clinton-Gore promoted through the ranks.

The same people who left us vulnerable to the acts of Sept. 11 are now
claiming they will solve our future problems.

I believe long-term good will come out of this catastrophe only if we learn
from the events of Sept. 11, hold accountable the people in our government
who failed us, and make necessary reforms.

If we do not do this, it is doubtful we will exist as a great nation 10
years hence.

We should also heed the Roman statesman Cicero, who remarked that great
nations are destroyed not from the barbarians outside but from the civilized
people within.

The logic of this is simple: There will always be barbarians outside the
gates. It is up to us to have the character and strength and will to defend
against them.

Before Sept. 11, P.C. thinking taught us that nothing we do matters;
character didn't count. It was the Age of Clinton. After Sept. 11, the
overriding lesson is that everything we do counts; character does matter.

Even the liberal Boston Globe recognized this. Breaking from the P.C. crowd,
it reported that Clinton's sexcapades and scandals detracted from his
ability to focus on hunting down Osama bin Laden. That story got almost zero
national press coverage.

And the Globe and many media still haven't talked much about what happened
at the CIA.

Political Correctness Ruined the CIA

Our loyal readers will remember that NewsMax broke the story, within hours
of the attacks, about how P.C. thinking by Clinton and Sen. Torricelli had
prevented the CIA and its many patriotic members from doing their jobs. (See
CIA Officials Reveal What Went Wrong – Clinton to Blame and Sen. Torricelli
Played Key Role in Closing Down CIA Ops.)

The CIA was effectively banned from recruiting unsavory characters to
penetrate terrorist cells.

But that was just a small part of how P.C. thinking has undermined America
and the CIA.

During the past decade, the CIA has been twisted from an
intelligence-gathering organization with a mission to protect America and
her citizens – and turned into a model of political correctness.

Under Clinton, the CIA was told to stop focusing on spying and start
focusing on P.C. agenda items like global warming.

Worse, the CIA staff was to become a model of P.C. ideology.

One analyst retired in disgust after the agency had appointed a person to
become a lead analyst for a particular country.

This person was qualified because she was black, a female, and had graduated
from an Ivy League college with a high GPA. The CIA was not concerned that
the young woman did not speak the language of the country she was to
analyze, nor had she ever visited the country.

She did prove, however, that the CIA was diverse.

Diversity Defined the CIA

As anyone who worked at the CIA can tell you, diversity was the buzzword
that animated the agency during the Clinton years. Diversity was the mission
and the goal.

A CIA operative close to the Middle East told me that the agency was even
placing women in countries like Islamic ones, where the culture does not
view women progressively.

While this policy demonstrated the agency’s commitment to diversity, it
effectively cut its female operative out of any serious interaction with the
host country's political and military establishment.

P.C. thinking dominated all the activities of the agency. CIA employees were
regularly hit with a barrage of Orwellian P.C. workshops and literature
explaining how they needed to be ... well, sensitive and open to diversity.

One analyst, still a CIA employee, told me about one CIA sensitivity
training seminar he had to sit through. The presenter, an expert in
diversity, gave a Powerpoint 

[CTRL] Fw: Resentful west spurned Sudan's key terror files- Where was Clinton and Gore?

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http://www.observer.co.uk/Distribution/Redirect_Artifact/0,4678,0-560624,00.
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 Spy blunder

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 Resentful west spurned Sudan's key terror files

 War on Terrorism - Observer special

 The secret war. Part 1

 David Rose
 Sunday September 30, 2001
 The Observer

 Security chiefs on both sides of the Atlantic repeatedly turned down the
 chance to acquire a vast intelligence database on Osama bin Laden and more
 than 200 leading members of his al-Qaeda terrorist network in the years
 leading up to the 11 September attacks, an Observer investigation has
 revealed.
 They were offered thick files, with photographs and detailed biographies
of
 many of his principal cadres, and vital information about al-Qaeda's
 financial interests in many parts of the globe.

 On two separate occasions, they were given an opportunity to extradite or
 interview key bin Laden operatives who had been arrested in Africa because
 they appeared to be planning terrorist atrocities.

 None of the offers, made regularly from the start of 1995, was taken up.
One
 senior CIA source admitted last night: 'This represents the worst single
 intelligence failure in this whole terrible business. It is the key to the
 whole thing right now. It is reasonable to say that had we had this data
we
 may have had a better chance of preventing the attacks.'

 He said the blame for the failure lay in the 'irrational hatred' the
Clinton
 administration felt for the source of the proffered intelligence - Sudan,
 where bin Laden and his leading followers were based from 1992-96. He
added
 that after a slow thaw in relations which began last year, it was only now
 that the Sudanese information was being properly examined for the first
 time.

 Last weekend, a key meeting took place in London between Walter
Kansteiner,
 the US Assistant Secretary of State for Africa, FBI and CIA
representatives,
 and Yahia Hussien Baviker, the Sudanese intelligence deputy chief.
However,
 although the intelligence channel between Sudan and the United States is
now
 open, and the last UN sanctions against the African state have been
removed,
 The Observer has evidence that a separate offer made by Sudanese agents in
 Britain to share intelligence with MI6 has been rejected. This follows
four
 years of similar rebuffs.

 'If someone from MI6 comes to us and declares himself, the next day he can
 be in Khartoum,' said a Sudanese government source. 'We have been saying
 this for years.'

 Bin Laden and his cadres came to Sudan in 1992 because at that time it was
 one of the few Islamic countries where they did not need visas. He used
his
 time there to build a lucrative web of legitimate businesses, and to seed
a
 far-flung financial network - much of which was monitored by the Sudanese.

 They also kept his followers under close surveillance. One US source who
has
 seen the files on bin Laden's men in Khartoum said some were 'an inch and
a
 half thick'.

 They included photographs, and information on their families, backgrounds
 and contacts. Most were 'Afghan Arabs', Saudis, Yemenis and Egyptians who
 had fought with bin Laden against the Soviets in Afghanistan.

 'We know them in detail,' said one Sudanese source. 'We know their
leaders,
 how they implement their policies, how they plan for the future. We have
 tried to feed this information to American and British intelligence so
they
 can learn how this thing can be tackled.'

 In 1996, following intense pressure from Saudi Arabia and the US, Sudan
 agreed to expel bin Laden and up to 300 of his associates. Sudanese
 intelligence believed this to be a great mistake.

 'There we could keep track of him, read his mail,' the source went on.
'Once
 we kicked him out and he went to ground in Afghanistan, he couldn't be
 tracked anywhere.'

 The Observer has obtained a copy of a personal memo sent from Sudan to
Louis
 Freeh, former director of the FBI, after the murderous 1998 attacks on
 American embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. It announces the arrest of two
 named bin Laden operatives held the day after the bombings after they
 crossed the Sudanese border from Kenya. They had cited the manager of a
 Khartoum leather factory owned by bin Laden as a reference for their
visas,
 and were held after they tried to rent a flat overlooking in the US
embassy
 in Khartoum, where they were thought to be planning an attack.

 US sources have confirmed that the FBI wished to arrange their immediate
 extradition. However, Clinton's Secretary of State, Madeleine Albright,
 forbade it. She had classed Sudan as a 'terrorist state,' and three days
 later US missiles blasted the al-Shifa medicine factory in Khartoum.

 The US wrongly claimed it was owned by bin Laden and making chemical
 weapons. In fact, it supplied 60 per cent of Sudan's medicines, and had
 contracts to 

[CTRL] Taliban defector describes horror

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http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/09/30/wtal30.xml





I was one of the Taliban's torturers: I crucified people
(Filed: 30/09/2001)


In an astonishing interview with Christina Lamb, the Afghan leader's former
bodyguard reveals the full brutality of the fundamentalist regime sheltering
Osama bin Laden


YOU must become so notorious for bad things that when you come into an area
people will tremble in their sandals. Anyone can do beatings and starve
people. I want your unit to find new ways of torture so terrible that the
screams will frighten even crows from their nests and if the person survives
he will never again have a night's sleep.

These were the instructions of the commandant of the Afghan secret police to
his new recruits. For more than three years one of those recruits, Hafiz
Sadiqulla Hassani, ruthlessly carried out his orders. But sickened by the
atrocities that he was forced to commit, last week he defected to Pakistan,
joining a growing number of Taliban officials who are escaping across the
border.

In an exclusive interview with The Telegraph, he reveals for the first time
the full horror of what has been happening in the name of religion in
Afghanistan. Mr Hassani has the pinched face and restless hands of a man
whose night hours are as haunted as any of his victims. Now aged 30, he does
not, however, fit the militant Islamic stereotype usually associated with
the Taliban.

Married with a wife and one-year-old daughter, he holds a degree in business
studies, having been educated in Pakistan, where he grew up as a refugee
while his father and elder brothers fought in the jihad against the
Russians. His family was well off, owning land and property in Kandahar to
which they returned after the war.

Like many people, I did not become a Talib by choice, he explained. In
early 1998 I was working as an accountant here in Quetta when I heard that
my grandfather - who was 85 - had been arrested by the Taliban in Kandahar
and was being badly beaten. They would only release him if he provided a
member of his family as a conscript, so I had to go.

Mr Hassani at first was impressed by the Taliban. It had been a crazy
situation after the Russians left, the country was divided by warring groups
all fighting each other. In Kandahar warlords were selling everything,
kidnapping young girls and boys, robbing people, and the Taliban seemed like
good people who brought law and order.

So he became a Taliban volunteer, assigned to the secret police. Many of
his friends also joined up as land owners in Kandahar were threatened that
they must either ally themselves with the Taliban or lose their property.
Others were bribed to join with money given to the Taliban by drug
smugglers, as Afghanistan became the world's largest producer of heroin.

At first, Mr Hassani's job was to patrol the streets at night looking for
thieves and signs of subversion. However, as the Taliban leadership began
issuing more and more extreme edicts, his duties changed.

Instead of just searching for criminals, the night patrols were instructed
to seek out people watching videos, playing cards or, bizarrely, keeping
caged birds. Men without long enough beards were to be arrested, as was any
woman who dared venture outside her house. Even owning a kite became a
criminal offence.

The state of terror spread by the Taliban was so pervasive that it began to
seem as if the whole country was spying on each other. As we drove around
at night with our guns, local people would come to us and say there's
someone watching a video in this house or some men playing cards in that
house, he said.

Basically any form of pleasure was outlawed, Mr Hassani said, and if we
found people doing any of these things we would beat them with staves soaked
in water - like a knife cutting through meat - until the room ran with their
blood or their spines snapped. Then we would leave them with no food or
water in rooms filled with insects until they died.

We always tried to do different things: we would put some of them standing
on their heads to sleep, hang others upside down with their legs tied
together. We would stretch the arms out of others and nail them to posts
like crucifixions.

Sometimes we would throw bread to them to make them crawl. Then I would
write the report to our commanding officer so he could see how innovative we
had been.

Here, sitting in the stillness of an orchard in Quetta sipping tea as the
sun goes down, he finds it hard to explain how he could have done such
things. We Afghans have grown too used to violence, is all he can offer.
We have lost 1.5 million people. All of us have brothers and fathers up
there.

After Kandahar, he was put in charge of secret police cells in the towns of
Ghazni and then Herat, a beautiful Persian city in western Afghanistan that
had suffered greatly during the Soviet occupation and had been one of the
last places to fall to the Taliban.

Herat had always been a 

[CTRL] FW: [AUP] Fwd: [Armageddon-or-NewAge] Cockroaches that can be used as spies

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 Cockroaches that can be used as spies
 By Robert Uhlig, Technology Correspondent
 (Filed: 26/09/2001)

 http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/0
 9/26/wbeet26.xml


 SCIENTISTS are developing a remote-controlled cockroach that can carry a
 tiny camera and microphone for spying missions or be used for searching
 under rubble for disaster victims.

 With a microchip surgically implanted in its back and electrodes
 connected to its brain, scientists can make the cockroach turn left,
 right, crawl forward or leap backwards.

 Isao Shimoyama, of Tokyo University, said that cockroaches were chosen
 because they were exceptionally hardy and were resistant to poisons and
 radiation.

 He said: Insects can do many things that people cannot. The potential
 applications of electronically controlled cockroaches for mankind could
 be immense.

 The team, financed by a £7 million grant from the Japanese government,
 has bred an army of Perplaneta Americana, the American cockroach, which
 is the only species large enough and strong enough to carry 20 times its
 own weight.

 The cockroaches' wings and antennae are removed when it is anaesthetised
 to make room for the electronic back-pack, which, at just over one-tenth
 of an ounce, is twice as heavy as the insect.




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[CTRL] Herald Sun First shots fired br on Afghan soil [24sep01]

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[CTRL] Did Israelis evacuate towers

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 http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=24616

Did Israelis evacuate towers?
Net rumor sparked by reports from Pakistan, Hezbollah









© 2001 WorldNetDaily.com

With the aid and speed of the Internet, conspiracy theorists are spreading a
rumor that 4,000 Israelis who worked in the World Trade Center didn't report
for work the day two airliners commandeered by terrorists crashed into the
towers, destroying the tallest buildings in New York.

The e-mailers and Internet sites spreading the tale suggest this is evidence
Israel, not Islamic terrorists, were behind the attack Sept. 11 – or at
least had advance knowledge of it.

There's just one problem with the story, WorldNetDaily has learned. It's not
true.

The report seems to have originated in Jordan's Al Watan newspaper and been
spread by Pakistani publications, including Jang. Versions of the story have
been repeated at news conferences by Islamic clerics in the Middle East and
Central Asia.

Alex Safian, associate director of the Committee for Accuracy in Middle East
Reporting in America, or CAMERA, which monitors Middle East media coverage,
says his organization first saw the report on Lebanon's Al-Manara
Television.

Al-Manara is the television station of Hezbollah – a militant Islamic
terrorist group.

4,000 Israeli Employees in WTC Absent the Day of the Attack, read the
Manar TV headline Sept. 17.

With the announcement of the attacks at the World Trade Center in New York,
the international media, particularly the Israeli one, hurried to take
advantage of the incident and started mourning 4,000 Israelis who work at
the two towers, started the Hezbollah story.

Then suddenly, no one ever mentioned anything about those Israelis and
later it became clear that they remarkably did not show up in their jobs the
day the incident took place.

No one talked about any Israeli being killed or wounded in the attacks,
the story added.

In fact, at least 130 Israelis were killed in the World Trade Center attack.
Many more are missing.

Nevertheless, Pakistani political leader Sami-ul Haq, in calling for a
nationwide strike yesterday to protest his country's plan to cooperate with
the U.S., made reference to the rumor.

Thousands of Jews working -- nothing happened to them, Haq told a roomful
of reporters.

The Israeli consulate may be partly responsible for the rumor. Immediately
after the tragic attack, it filed requests for information on as many as
4,000 Israelis who may have been in the World Trade Center at the time of
the attacks. Nearly 50,000 people work in the buildings at any one time.
Many, however, left the second tower following the first attack.

The estimated death toll is currently around 7,000, but fewer than 300
bodies have been found and even fewer identified.

An FBI spokesman claimed not to have any knowledge of the rumor and refused
comment or any interest in it.

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[CTRL] Will conventional weapons be enough

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Will conventional weapons
be enough?
After '90s mil-tech 'fire sale,' mini-nukes may be necessary, say Pentagon
officials






By Paul Sperry





© 2001 WorldNetDaily.com
WASHINGTON -- Ten years ago, foreign enemies watched, slack-jawed, as U.S.
armed forces put on a high-tech show in the Persian Gulf.

They previously had no idea what U.S. military capabilities were, especially
in the areas of night vision, sensors and weapons technology. And everyone
from China to Iran to Syria were shocked at the ease with which the U.S.
smashed Saddam Hussein's vaunted army.

They said, 'Gee, we didn't know we could get our clocks cleaned like
that,' said Dave Klimaj, a former Defense Department engineer who worked on
night-vision and sensors technology. So they spent the next 10 years
stealing our technology -- that is, when [former President] Clinton wasn't
handing it to them on a silver platter.

During the Clinton years, he said, military-defense technologies were
shipped overseas in a giant fire sale.

Peter Leitner, a Pentagon export-control officer, agrees that the previous
administration's relaxation of controls on dual-use exports has given U.S.
enemies -- namely China and the anti-American terrorist states it re-exports
U.S. military-related technology to -- an unnecessary leg-up in conventional
warfare.

Clinton effectively dismantled the military-related export controls
regime, said Leitner, who reviews dual-use export license applications for
the Defense Threat Reduction Agency.

And now, that technology is gone, said Klimaj, who retired from the
Pentagon last year. You can't pull it back. It's overseas.

In the new war against terrorism, expected to start any day now, Klimaj
predicts that American forces will see our technologies being shot back at
us.

He also suspects the ruling Taliban militia of Afghanistan, with whom China
has unusually close ties, may use American sensors and other technology to
track and target American forces.

We'll use that to shoot at them, but you don't think they'll be so stupid
that they won't see us coming with our technology? he said. The cat's out
of the bag.

That's the worst thing, he added. When we go to war, we're fighting our
own technology now, because it's all gone. And they're all laughing at us.

Klimaj doubts missile strikes or carpet-bombing will do the job in
Afghanistan, where the terrain is so rugged, and soldiers so dug in, that
the invading Soviet army eventually gave up and retreated. In 1998, U.S.
forces pumped some 60 Tomahawk cruise missiles into Osama bin Laden's
terrorist training camps in Khost, Afghanistan, and they didn't touch bin
Laden.

Enter the n-word. Klimaj thinks, regrettably, that the U.S. may have to
resort to using low-grade tactical nuclear weapons this time.

I don't think the conventional weapons will work, he said. I think we may
have to use little nukes.

Nobody likes to see that word [nuke], but you can't carpet-bomb
Afghanistan, Klimaj argued. It didn't do any good in Vietnam. It really
didn't work that well in the Gulf. And it's not going to do anything now.

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Re: [CTRL] Bush will get us into a war!

[tnohava]

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So what do we do...just forget about the thousands that were killed a week
ago? You're a REAL PATRIOT!


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 Remember the election year rhetoric, Bush will to get us into a war!?

 Now many Americans, perhaps most, are falling all over each other
 exclaiming how great a leader Bush has suddenly become.

 It just goes to show us that we are not that smart, and we are mostly
 controlled by our emotions. I hope we will grow up soon, and
 suspect we will
 do so fast once the Afghanis start sending our soldiers back in body bags
 after being executed by skinning alive like they did with the
 Russian soldiers.
 I hope this does not happen, but fear that some our men and women will
 meet this horrible fate, and even worse. I hope it will all be
 worth it in the end,
 if there ever is an end to the fighting.

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Re: [CTRL] Bush will get us into a war!

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If you're only asking questions then why does the subject title say Bush
will get us into war!? That's a statement and certainly not a question.


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 On 18 Sep 01, at 5:53, tnohava wrote:

  So what do we do...just forget about the thousands that were
 killed a week
  ago? You're a REAL PATRIOT!

 I am only asking questions instead of blindly accepting everything at face
 value.

 I guess you progagly believe if we do not all march in lock step with the
 'approved' reactions, we are not Real Americans.

 You will see I am right eventually, unless the truth is covered
 up. (But that
 would never happen in America???) But by then it will be way too late and
 many more will die. Attacks against Afghanistan will only start a
 Holy War and
 cause new terrorist attacks to be initiated at an increasing pace.

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Re: [CTRL] Bush will get us into a war!

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What in the hell does tax cuts and economics, Social Security and Medicare
have to do with Bush and the populace seeking retribution and a stop to the
root cause of Global Terrorism???

All this is, is more political rhetoric on the loss of the Gore election.
Beat up Bush all you can because it doesn't mean a damn thing. Bush hasn't
been sitting on his ass like Clinton did and he's doing his best to bring
terrorism to a halt and avenge the thousands killed in New York and Washing
DC. Cooperating with allies...if he wasn't cooperating with allies we would
have No allies, the last I read was he had the endorsement of just about all
our allies in taking military action. Listening to the advise of Russia,
what the hell is this shit! Take the advise of an adversary we've had for
decades? That's really BRILLIANT! Are you sure you're an American Citizen?
You could give two shits about those people in NY, DC and more importantly
Freedom! All your argument amounts to is beat up Bush, scare those who read
your words of conspiracy wit because Gore lost at the expense of those who
perished. Yeah...you're a real patriotic American alright!


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  So what do we do...

 Bush should have been more concerned with foreign affairs and cooperating
 with our allies including listening to the advise of Russia
 regarding terrorism
 threats, rather than getting the tax cut for the rich, which has
 put us in an even
 worse position financially, with a return to deficit spending
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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Softwar News

[tnohava]

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 In a message dated 9/15/01 9:00:22 AM, you wrote:

 
 What did Clinton do about the attack on the USS Cole...NOTHING!

 
 Yet, the CIA missed his
 attack on the USS Cole.

 So what has Bush done? Bush he got himself declared president months ago?


I think your question should be What is he doing? DUH!

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Softwar News

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 No, I think that blame Clinton for the Twin Tower Terror is whiny
 crap

You seem a little twisted or paranoid, the subject matter was Clinton's
ability to sit on his lazy ass with regards to the USS Cole affair. In fact
he sat on his ass most of his presidency except for getting his Oral Sex and
Staining Dresses(his LEGACY) in the Oval Office, hob-knobbing with
Hollywood, Pardoning most anybody willing to make campaign contributions.

DUH again!

I think I'll experiment with the Rules Wizard in MS Office (killfile), don't
be surprised if you don't get a response on this one. Heh heh heh

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Softwar News

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What did Clinton do about the attack on the USS Cole...NOTHING!


Yet, the CIA missed his
attack on the USS Cole.


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[CTRL] Washington Post: Bush approval at 91 percent

[tnohava]

 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28252-2001Sep13.html

Americans Approve of Bush's Handling of Crisis


By Richard Morin and Claudia Deane
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, September 13, 2001; 11:18 PM


Americans have rallied behind President Bush, strongly endorsing the way his
administration has responded to Tuesday's terrorist attacks and sending his
job approval rating soaring, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News
poll.

Nearly nine in 10 Americans – 86 percent – said they approved of the job
that Bush was doing as president, up 31 points from a Post-ABC News poll
conducted last weekend. An even larger proportion – 91 percent –
specifically said the president was doing a good job directing the nation's
response to the murderous assaults on the Pentagon and World Trade Center.

The survey also found that a strong majority currently is prepared to accept
a long war with many U.S. military casualties. And nearly everyone said they
would accept the longer waits and additional inconvenience that are expected
at the nation's airports as a result of the strict new anti-hijacking
measures imposed by the federal government.

At the same time, a growing proportion of Americans think the government
could have done more to prevent Tuesday's attacks. And more than four in 10
acknowledge the incidents will probably make them more suspicious of people
you think are of Arab descent – a finding that underscores the president's
plea to the nation yesterday to avoid mistreating Arab-Americans.

A total of 609 randomly selected adults were interviewed Thursday night for
this survey. Margin of sampling error for the overall results is plus or
minus four percentage points. The practical difficulties of conducting a
survey in a single night represent an additional potential source of error.

In less than a week, Bush's job approval rating has jumped from 55 percent
to 86 percent, nearly equaling his father's job rating at the end of the
1991 Persian Gulf War – a short-lived spike that quickly fell as an economic
recession settled in.

Even some of the president's detractors say they've been impressed with the
way Bush has handled himself in the current crisis.

I'm very surprised, I think he's doing very well, said Dawn Caudill, 30,
of Lennon, Mich. I think he's trying to find who was responsible before
acting, and not just going right in to blow up entire towns.

War fever continues to build, the Post-ABC News survey found. Nearly nine in
10 supported taking military action against groups or nations responsible
for the tragedies – even if it led to war.

We have no choice, we're at war, said Rodney Forsberg, 43, of Dacula, Ga.
Any thinking American dreads war, but here again we don't have a choice –
we're in for a big one.

Three in four said they would support going to war even if it meant
innocent civilians in other countries might be hurt or killed. Seven in 10
said they would support the United States taking aggressive military action
even if the result was a long war with large numbers of U.S. troops killed
or injured.

Even the prospect of a long and bloody war with civilian casualties did not
dissuade Mable Kerr, 63, of Fayetteville, Arkansas. In any war people are
going to get killed, American soldiers and civilians alike, Kerr said.
That's what war is all about.

An overwhelming majority – 85 percent – of Americans also support military
strikes against Afghanistan if its leaders refuse to turn over Osama bin
Laden, the fugitive terrorist who is suspected of playing a key role in
Tuesday's attacks.

The poll also points to a possible backlash against Arab-Americans. Overall,
a majority of respondents – 56 percent – said their view of Arabs would not
change, while 44 percent said the attacks might heighten their suspicions of
people who they think are of Arab descent.

Nicole McDowell, 31, of Thornton, Colorado, was quick to put her
apprehensions in context.

I don't want to be too suspicious, because I don't want to be prejudiced,
and I'm not prejudiced, McDowell said. Just in general, out in public, I
probably won't be suspicious. But I think yes, in airports, I probably might
be a little more suspicious.

At least for now, Americans say they are willing to make personal sacrifices
to curb terrorism. Seven in 10 said they would support new laws that would
make it easier for the FBI and other authorities to investigate suspected
terrorists, even if it meant giving up some of Americans' personal
liberties and privacy. And 87 percent strongly supported new strict airport
security measures even if they cause long delays in air travel.

The number of Americans who think tougher security measures should have been
implemented prior to a disaster happening also seems to be on the rise. A
majority – 65 percent – now say the United States could have done more to
prevent the recent attacks, up from 43 percent in a Post-ABC News survey
Tuesday night.

I'm in the Chicago area, flying out of 

Re: [CTRL] Admiral Moorer Clinton Policies Led to Disaster

[tnohava]

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Forgot your medication today, huh.


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 tnohava wrote:

 This is all bullshit. Moorer is CFR military hack.

 J2

 
   http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/9/12/121348.shtml
 
  Admiral Moorer: Clinton Policies Led to Disaster
  NewsMax.com
  Wednesday, September 12, 2001
 
  The catastrophe that struck America was the result of a decade
 of military
  cuts and the undermining of U.S. intelligence agencies, Admiral
 Thomas H.
  Moorer told NewsMax.com
 
  Admiral Moorer served as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff,
 the nation’s
  highest-ranking military official, and brought the Vietnam war to a
  conclusion. He has served in three major wars.
 
  Yesterday’s events brought back memories of Pearl Harbor, he
 said. Admiral
  Moorer, then a naval aviator, was present at Pearl Harbor on December 7,
  1941.
 
  Admiral Moorer made the following analysis to NewsMax, his quotes are in
  bold:
 
  1. The Clinton administration had a similar view to
 intelligence agencies as
  the Carter administration. They didn’t like using spies. This
 is why we had
  no warning.
 
  You absolutely need spies, you need them to melt into a
 society and tell
  you what is going on, you can’t rely on satellites and
 technology alone.”
 
  2. The actions taken yesterday were the result of perceived
 weakness of U.S.
  armed forces.
 
  President Clinton brought the military down and down. He made
 the military
  like it was before Pearl Harbor.”
 
  3. The U.S. must significantly increase its use of human
 intelligence, that
  is spies on the ground in foreign countries.
 
  4. America must remain vigilant.
 
  This is like what Yamamoto said after Pearl Harbor, ‘A
 sleeping tiger has
  been aroused.’ We can’t just strike back and go back to sleep.
 Next time the
  attack could be even more serious.”
 
  5. Soon terrorist groups will have access to nuclear weapons.
 
  This is inevitable. Countries like Russia and China are
 providing countries
  like Pakistan, Iraq and Iran with this technology – the same technology
  Clinton gave to the Chinese.”
 
  6. Missile defense is needed now.
 
  The media is dead wrong when it says this proves we don’t need missile
  defense. Soon, the same counties that supported these
 terrorists that just
  attacked us will have missiles capable of hitting the U.S. We
 need to defend
  against their use.”
 
  7. No additional attacks for the immediate future.
 
  ”I believe they reached the limits of their capabilities with
 these attacks.
  But they will try again later. They want nuclear weapons.
 
 
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[CTRL] Fw: Message to the World's Terrorists

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Max565 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 An open letter to a terrorist:

   Well, you hit the World Trade Center, but you missed America. You
hit the
 Pentagon, but you missed America. You used helpless American bodies, to
take
 out other American bodies, but like a poor marksman, you STILL missed
America.
 Why? Because of something you guys will never understand.  America isn't
about
 a building or two, not about financial centers, not about military
centers,
 America isn't about a place; America isn't even about a bunch of bodies.
 America is about an IDEA.  An idea that you can go someplace where you can
earn
 as much as you can figure out how to, live for the most part like you
 envisioned living, and pursue Happiness.  There are no guarantees that
you'll
 reach it, but you can try!

   Go ahead and whine your terrorist whine, and chant your terrorist
litany:
  If you cannot see my point, then feel my pain. This concept is alien to
 Americans.  We live in a country where we don't have to see your point.
But
 you're free to have one.  We don't have to listen to your speech.  But
you're
 free to make one.  I don't know where you got the strange idea that
everyone
 has to agree with you. We don't agree with each other in this country,
almost
 as a matter of pride.  We're a collection of guys that don't agree, called
 States.  We united our individual states to protect ourselves from tyranny
in
 the world.   this was another idea, we kind of made up on the spot.  You
CAN
 make it up as you go, too, when it's your country, but ONLY if you're
free.
 But I'm probably tilting at windmills, explaining this to you.

   Yeah, some of us are fat, sloppy, easygoing goofs most of the time.
 That's an unfortunate image to project to the world, but it comes of
feeling
 free and easy about the world you live in.  It's unfortunate too, because
 people start to forget that when you attack Americans, they tend to fight
like
 a cornered badger.  The first we knew of the War of 1812, was when England
 burned Washington, DC to the ground.  From what I know of our history,
that war
 didn't turn out like England thought it was going to and it's not going to
turn
 out like you're thinking, either.  Those who dare to hide you, will also
feel
 our wrath.

   Sorry, but you're not the first bully on our shores, just the most
 recent.  No Marquis of Queensbury rules for Americans, either. We were the
 FIRST and so far, only country in the world to use nuclear weapons in
anger.
 Horrific idea, nowadays isn't it? News for you Bucko, it was back then
too, but
 we used it anyway.  There were two of them in the whole world and we used
both.
  We're not proud of that, but we won't back away from the idea, either.
Be
 very careful, or you'll feel that wrath, as we decide to allow YOU to set
the
 rules of engagement.

   I had an uncle who worked on the Manhattan Project. Told me once,
that
 right up until they threw the switch, the physicists were still arguing
over
 whether the Uranium alone would fission, or whether it would start a
fissioning
 chain reaction that would eat everything. But they threw that switch
anyway,
 because we had a War to win. Does that tell you something about American
 Resolve?

   So who just declared War on America? It would be nice to point to
some
 real estate, like the good old days. Unfortunately, we're probably at war
with
 your random camps, in far-flung places.  The trainees there, think they're
 safe.  Just like the Barbary Pirates.  You'd better start sleeping with
one eye
 open.  There's a spirit that tends to take over people who come to this
 country, looking for opportunity, liberty, and freedom, even if they
misuse it.
  You seem to be incapable of understanding that we don't live in America;
 America lives in US!  The American Spirit is what it's called and killing
a few
 thousand of us, or a few million of us, won't change it.  Most of the
time,
 it's a pretty happy-go-lucky kind of Spirit.  Until we're crossed in a
cowardly
 manner, then it becomes an entirely different kind of Spirit. Wait until
you
 see what we do with that Spirit, this time.

   Sleep, if you can.

   We're coming.


 Dan Larsen
 Director of Operations

 Evidence, Inc.
 PO Box 873
 Council Bluffs, IA 51502-0873


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[CTRL] Newsday.com - FBI Looks at Bin Laden's Boston Ties

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http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-attacks-boston-bin-laden
0912sep12.story?coll=sns%2Dap%2Dnationworld%2Dheadlines

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-attacks-boston-bin-laden
0912sep12.story

FBI Looks at Bin Laden's Boston Ties
By DENISE LAVOIE
Associated Press Writer

September 12, 2001, 7:36 AM EDT

BOSTON -- Terrorist mastermind Osama bin Laden has strong family ties and a
group of supporters in Boston, where the two hijacked airliners that
demolished the World Trade Center took off.

One of bin Laden's brothers set up scholarship funds at Harvard, while
another relative owns six condominiums in an expensive complex in the
Charlestown section of Boston. Two bin Laden associates once worked as
Boston cab drivers, including one who was jailed in Jordan on charges of
plotting to blow up a hotel full of Americans and Israelis.

Bin Laden's ties to Boston are now being closely scrutinized as authorities
focus their investigation on terrorist cells with possible ties to him, said
Robert Fitzpatrick, the former second-in-command at the FBI's Boston office.

The activity of this group here is obviously significant, Fitzpatrick said
Wednesday.

Investigators are interviewing drivers from Boston Cab Co., where two known
associates of bin Laden once worked, to see if they had ties to baggage
handlers, who in turn may have supplied weapons to the hijackers,
Fitzpatrick said.

They are going to look at the cab drivers again -- since they are
predominantly Middle Eastern -- and they are going to look at a possible
link between them and the baggage handlers, Fitzpatrick said, based on his
information from law enforcement colleagues.

They could thwart the security by having a baggage handler put the material
aboard the plane. That link is being investigated.

Last year, the FBI investigated the Boston activities of the two cab
drivers, Bassam A. Kanj, a Lebanese native, and Raed M. Hijazi, a
Palestinian. The men were tied by investigators to separate military and
terrorist plots allegedly financed by bin Laden.

Both men lived for years in Boston and Everett, a suburb north of Boston.

Kanj, 35, was killed in Lebanon last year in an attack against the Lebanese
army. Hijazi was charged in Jordan with plotting a New Year's Day 2000 hotel
bombing.

Bin Laden, a rich Saudi exile who is believed to be living in Afghanistan,
also has had family members living in the Boston area for the past decade.

In 1994, one of his brothers, Sheik Bakr Mohammed bin Laden, made a large
donation to Harvard Law School to fund visiting scholars to do research in
Islamic legal studies.

Harvard Law spokesman Michael Armini would not disclose the amount of the
gift, but typically it takes about $1 million to establish a research
fellowship. The sheik established a second scholarship at the Harvard School
of Design.

Harvard officials were quick to distance the school from Osama bin Laden,
emphasizing that he has no role in the scholarship programs.

This is in no way connected to Osama bin Laden, who has been ostracized
from his family and from Saudi Arabia, Armini said. The purpose of this
gift was to foster mutual understanding between the western and Islamic
legal worlds.

Stephen Walt, a professor of international politics at the JFK School of
Government at Harvard, likened the relationship of the bin Laden brothers to
that of University of Massachusetts President William Bulger and his
brother, reputed mobster James Whitey Bulger, who is among the FBI's 10
Most Wanted.

I think that bin Laden is responsible for his action, but his brother is
not responsible for Osama's actions, and vice versa, Walt said.

Another relative, Mohammed M. bin Laden, owns six condominiums in the ritzy
Flagship Wharp condominium complex in Charlestown. His relation to bin Laden
could not immediately be determined. A woman who answered the telephone at
the management company for the complex refused to answer questions.

The condos were bought in the mid-1990s and range in assessed value from
$296,000 to $877,000, The Boston Globe reported.

Juliette Kayyem, a former member of the National Commission on Terrorism,
said Boston has several factors that may have attracted bin Laden's
supporters.

Our proximity to the Canadian border and Boston being a big city where
people can hide is likely why Boston became the center, Kayyem said. Also
being on the Eastern Seaboard, we have wide-bodied jets with large fuel
tanks. When you don't have other weapons, that's your weapon.
Copyright © 2001, The Associated Press

 Newsday.com - FBI Looks at Bin Laden's Boston Ties.url

[CTRL] Admiral Moorer Clinton Policies Led to Disaster

[tnohava]

 http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/9/12/121348.shtml

Admiral Moorer: Clinton Policies Led to Disaster
NewsMax.com
Wednesday, September 12, 2001

The catastrophe that struck America was the result of a decade of military
cuts and the undermining of U.S. intelligence agencies, Admiral Thomas H.
Moorer told NewsMax.com

Admiral Moorer served as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the nation’s
highest-ranking military official, and brought the Vietnam war to a
conclusion. He has served in three major wars.

Yesterday’s events brought back memories of Pearl Harbor, he said. Admiral
Moorer, then a naval aviator, was present at Pearl Harbor on December 7,
1941.

Admiral Moorer made the following analysis to NewsMax, his quotes are in
bold:

1. The Clinton administration had a similar view to intelligence agencies as
the Carter administration. They didn’t like using spies. This is why we had
no warning.

You absolutely need spies, you need them to melt into a society and tell
you what is going on, you can’t rely on satellites and technology alone.”

2. The actions taken yesterday were the result of perceived weakness of U.S.
armed forces.

President Clinton brought the military down and down. He made the military
like it was before Pearl Harbor.”

3. The U.S. must significantly increase its use of human intelligence, that
is spies on the ground in foreign countries.

4. America must remain vigilant.

This is like what Yamamoto said after Pearl Harbor, ‘A sleeping tiger has
been aroused.’ We can’t just strike back and go back to sleep. Next time the
attack could be even more serious.”

5. Soon terrorist groups will have access to nuclear weapons.

This is inevitable. Countries like Russia and China are providing countries
like Pakistan, Iraq and Iran with this technology – the same technology
Clinton gave to the Chinese.”

6. Missile defense is needed now.

The media is dead wrong when it says this proves we don’t need missile
defense. Soon, the same counties that supported these terrorists that just
attacked us will have missiles capable of hitting the U.S. We need to defend
against their use.”

7. No additional attacks for the immediate future.

”I believe they reached the limits of their capabilities with these attacks.
But they will try again later. They want nuclear weapons.

 Admiral Moorer Clinton Policies Led to Disaster.url

[CTRL] FW: United flight shot down - Evidence

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-Caveat Lector-

This was a post I forwarded earlier(not to this list) and it has since been
removed for some reason from alt.conspiracy




 -Original Message-
 From: tnohava
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 5:56 PM
 Subject: Fw: United flight shot down - Evidence




 Edvaldo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Officials are denying that United Flight 93 was shot down by US
  military aircraft. But these facts, gathered from the links below,
  seem to indicate otherwise.
  FACTS:
  - the passenger who was locked in the bathroom and called 911 said
  that he heard some sort of explosion and saw white smoke coming from
  the plane.
  - the FBI seized the 911 tape which recorded that call, saying it was
  for investigation.
  - witnesses reported hearing one to three explosions before the crash.
  - Terry Butler said, It dropped out of the clouds. The plane rose
  slightly,   trying to gain altitude, then it just went flip to the
  right and then straight down. Other witnesses saw the plane flip
  over.
  - in the morning of the attacks all the media agencies were reporting
  that the United flight 93 had been shot down; but by the beginning of
  the afternoon they stopped mentioning any shooting down, not even to
  say it had been a false report.
  - the United jet had changed course and seemed to be heading toward
  D.C.
  - the jet crashed on an open field.
  - there was no line of communication with the terrorists; they didn't
  want to negotiate, they simply wanted to crash the plane into an
  important building, maybe even the White House.
 
  CONCLUSIONS:
  How do you stop a group of suicidal terrorists from crashing a
  jetliner into the White House? The military had no choice. They had to
  strike it down. They could not save the people on the plane, but at
  least they saved the people in the White House and avoided what would
  have been a coup de grâce to the American pride.
  The plane was hit above the clouds, so nobody saw the jet fighters,
  and the hit(s) was directed at the plane steering mechanism; that's
  why it flipped over and plummeted to the ground, and also such hits
  would be more difficult to be noticed by witnesses.
  Why did the FBI seize the 911 tape? To investigate what? They were
  afraid the sound of the hit(s) to the jetliner could be heard in the
  recording.
  And why did reporters suddenly started behaving as if there had never
  been any mention of an air strike? Censorship.
  I am sure they did the right thing by taking down that jet, but this
  censorship is ridiculous. They are treating us like we are idiots.
 
  http://www.post-gazette.com/headlines/20010912somerscenenat4p3.asp
  http://www.sfgate.com/today/plane.shtml
  http://www.post-gazette.com/headlines/20010912crashnat2p2.asp


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Re: [CTRL] Admiral Moorer Clinton Policies Led to Disaster

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http://www.nationalaviation.org/enshrinee/moorer.html
I would have to say Adm. Moorer certainly has more credibility than your
opinion. Perhaps you could contact President Bush personally and tell him
you have the Final Answer for the root cause of Terrorism? I'm sure he
would most certainly give one such as yourself audience along with the
Cabinet and would without hesitation, weigh your words heavily.

I wonder if we could get that Billion Dollars back that Clinton gave Syria
to look the other way when we launched air strikes into Iraq, which they
then spent on more armament?



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In a message dated 9/12/01 7:58:51 PM Central Daylight Time,
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The catastrophe that struck America was the result of a decade of military
cuts and the undermining of U.S. intelligence agencies, Admiral Thomas H.
Moorer told NewsMax.com


The catastrophe was the direct result of US aid to Israel...plain and
simple.

Bill.

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[CTRL] Detailed allegations of financial payoffs to ensure Clinton action also in warning

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 http://www.insightmag.com/archive/200109255.shtml

Did FBI Drop the Ball on Pardons?





By Paul M. Rodriguez
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Insight has learned that the FBI was tipped off months in advance that
fugitives Marc Rich and Pinky Green were to get Clinton pardons in a bizarre
financial scheme.

Five months before Bill Clinton left the White House in late January 2001,
the FBI received a shocking tip: International fugitives Marc Rich and Pinky
Green would be pardoned by the president in the waning hours of his
administration. And along with the tip were detailed allegations of
financial payoffs to ensure the presidential actions, Insight has learned.
   At the time the FBI received this information in mid-August 2000,
Rich and Green were well known to the bureau as indicted tax cheats and
lavishly rich fugitives on the lam. Rich’s ex-wife was a close friend of
Clinton and a big-time contributor and fund-raiser for Democrats. But even
to casual observers the two fugitives were not plausible candidates for
presidential pardons.
   Incredibly, despite the national dustup when news of the actual
pardons broke following a late-evening notification of the Department of
Justice (DOJ) by the White House on Jan. 19 — less than 18 hours before
Clinton was to leave office — the bureau did not follow up on the
confidential information it had received on the alleged pardons scheme from
a previously reliable source. In fact, the bureau sat on the tipster’s
information until late March.
   Moreover, despite a written report sent to FBI headquarters last year
by a veteran agent at an FBI field office who received the original tip,
neither top FBI brass nor senior officials at DOJ, according to insiders
interviewed by Insight, were informed about the then-unimaginable pardons
secretly being worked on by Clinton and supporters of Rich and Green. Nor
were top officials told about millions of dollars alleged to be deposited in
secret bank accounts for Clinton and others identified as involved in
securing the pardons.
   Current and former FBI and Justice officials who have spoken to
Insight on condition of anonymity say that had they known of the
field-office report they would have acted quickly to try to block the
last-minute pardons of the two high-profile fugitives. “You’re damn right we
would have been on alert to stop this!” a recently retired official says.
“All hell would have broken out if we had been told.”
   Adding insult to injury, say law-enforcement sources, was what
appears to be a subsequent decision by FBI headquarters to delay sharing
this information with Mary Jo White. She is the U.S. attorney for the
Southern District of New York who is investigating possible criminal actions
associated with the Rich/Green and other pardons (some of which were
negotiated for but not granted).
   According to a highly placed source, one of the FBI agents ultimately
assigned to look into the tip and associated allegations told a colleague in
May of this year that no decision had been made at that time to inform
White. “We’ll decide if and when to tell White,” the agent was paraphrased
as saying, according to notes made by a participant at one of several
meetings held to discuss how to handle the potentially explosive
information.
   It is unclear whether White subsequently was informed, but word had
not filtered up to senior DOJ officials of the Clinton era who were on the
job until summer retirements or transfers. “This is the first I’ve heard
about it,” said a shocked former Justice official contacted by Insight just
days before this issue went to print. “And I think I would have gotten wind
of this.”
   Indeed, even former FBI director Louis Freeh, according to agency
sources, did not know about the information from the previously reliable
source, at least through early March of this year. That is when pressure was
applied internally by a retired federal agent once assigned to Washington
who was familiar with the Rich/Green pardons tip and alleged payments. This
source, who has requested anonymity, couldn’t understand why such
information, detailed far in advance of the pardons, was not being followed
up on even after the fact. “I had to make a lot of calls and get a little
bit ugly to get the ball rolling,” the source tells Insight.
   Even a full-bore investigation by the House Government Reform
Committee — including several days of public hearings — did not turn up the
fact that the FBI had been warned in advance that Rich and Green would be
pardoned by Clinton and that secret payoffs were alleged to be part of the
deal. Nor had the congressional investigators picked up any information
after their February and early March hearings to suggest that the FBI or the
DOJ had been tipped off earlier or that even now they are 

[CTRL] Zimbabwe only three months from famine

[tnohava]

 http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,3-2001294594,00.html



SATURDAY AUGUST 25 2001

Zimbabwe only three months from famine

BY RICHARD BEESTON, DIPLOMATIC EDITOR

FOR the first time in its 20-year history Zimbabwe faces the threat of
famine unless emergency food aid can be distributed to the country’s poor in
the coming months.
According to a confidential Whitehall report prepared this month and seen by
The Times, the production of maize, the staple diet for the black
population, is down nearly a third on last year and shortages could become
acute by November.

“They have basically got three months left,” a British official said. “They
will need outside help or face food shortages,” the official added.

The World Food Programme now lists Zimbabwe, once one of the continent’s
most productive nations, among its list of countries facing “exceptional
food emergencies in sub-Saharan Africa”. Maize production this year is
1.47million tonnes, 28 per cent lower than last year and leaving a shortfall
of half a million tonnes. Slumps in food production are not unusual in
southern Africa, which is prone to droughts. This is, however, the first
time that Zimbabwe will be unable to feed its population for entirely
political reasons. Because of a related economic crisis it no longer has the
foreign currency necessary to import food. What food is available is likely
to be priced beyond many of the country’s needy.

Large parts of the farming sector have been brought to a standstill since
last year’s policy of President Mugabe to allow so-called war veterans to
seize land belonging to white farmers and people linked to the opposition.

To compound the problem, there are fears that foreign countries may be
unable to assist starving Zimbabweans because hardliners in the regime in
Harare do not want to admit that there is a problem. British officials say
that Mr Mugabe will not want to admit that he needs outside help to feed his
people as he prepares for a tough re-election battle next spring.

The United Nations Development Programme (UNDP), which has attempted to
mediate in the 18-month land battle, has drawn up an emergency relief plan,
but is unable act until it is asked by the Government. “There is a plan
ready to help Zimbabwe, but the Government has so far shown no urgency in
responding to the crisis,” Morgan Tsvangirai, the leader of the main
opposition Movement for Democratic Change (MDC), said.

While the world’s attention had been focused largely on the plight of white
farmers, tens of thousands of black Zimbabweans were struggling to survive,
he said.

Those most at risk are former black farmworkers who have been driven out of
their jobs by land seizures as well as the urban poor, many of whom have
lost jobs during the country’s economic troubles. The Foreign Office is
hoping that, even at this late stage, pressure can be brought to bear on Mr
Mugabe to halt the land seizures, restore law and order and reopen dialogue
with outside countries.

Nigeria and South Africa are pressing Mr Mugabe to back down and will
mediate between Britain and Zimbabwe at a foreign ministers’ meeting in
Abuja, the Nigerian capital, next month. Britain is under no illusions. It
has withdrawn a standing offer to provide £36million to help to fund a
peaceful land redistribution programme.




 The Times.url

[CTRL] Exclusive A Pardon Overheard

[tnohava]

 http://www.msnbc.com/news/616125.asp?0dm=N22TN

Exclusive: A Pardon Overheard

New transcripts reveal Clinton and Barak’s private chats about Marc Rich

By Michael Isikoff
NEWSWEEK

Aug. 27 issue — Bill Clinton’s political antennae were, as always, on high
alert. On Jan. 8, with less than two weeks to go in his presidency, Clinton
was speaking on the phone with the then Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak.
The subject: a possible pardon for fugitive financier Marc Rich.


 “I KNOW QUITE A FEW THINGS about that,” Clinton interjected as soon
as Barak raised the matter. He had already gotten a long memo on it, Clinton
explained, and he was “working on it.” But Clinton also understood there
were risks, possibly big ones. “It’s best that we not say much about that,”
Clinton advised Barak on the subject of Rich. The Israeli leader understood.
“OK, I’m not mentioning it anyplace,” he replied.
   The two leaders had no reason to believe their confidential chat
would ever become public. Yet the Clinton-Barak telephone call that evening,
like all conversations between U.S. presidents and foreign heads of state,
was monitored by a team of note takers sitting at computers in the White
House Situation Room. Last week congressional investigators probing the Rich
pardon received access to National Security Council-prepared transcripts of
three Clinton-Barak conversations that dealt with the Rich pardon. NEWSWEEK
also has reviewed the contents of the transcripts, which were edited by
archivists to exclude matters of Mideast diplomacy. The transcripts offer no
“smoking gun” showing that the former president was motivated by large
donations to his presidential library or by generous campaign contributions.
But the conversations do show that, in sharp contrast to the picture painted
by some of his former aides, Clinton was keenly aware of details of the Rich
case, and appeared determined to grant the highly questionable pardon even
though, as he admitted to Barak, there was “almost no precedent in American
history.”
On the merits, Rich’s case certainly seemed improbable from the
start. Indicted in 1983 on charges of tax fraud and racketeering, the
billionaire commodities broker had fled the country, renounced his U.S.
citizenship and moved to a heavily guarded private enclave in Switzerland
rather than face trial in the United States. In a congressional hearing in
March, a trio of former top aides—White House counsel Beth Nolan, chief of
staff John Podesta and Bruce Lindsey—all testified that they had strenuously
argued against the Rich pardon and even thought they had persuaded their
boss to reject it. But, they said, it was a last-minute appeal from Barak,
Clinton’s partner in the Mideast peace talks, that appeared to turn the
president around. “It certainly seemed he was not going to grant it, and
that Mr. Barak’s phone call had been significant,” Nolan said.

Read the transcript




 The NSC transcripts tell a more complicated story. Barak first
raised the issue with Clinton more than a month earlier, on Dec. 11, 2000.
That same day Jack Quinn, Rich’s lawyer (and a former Clinton White House
counsel), submitted a thick pardon application. It included a personal
letter from Denise Rich, the financier’s ex-wife and a major Democratic
Party contributor who had already donated $450,000 to Clinton’s presidential
library. In the conversation that day, Barak described Rich as a “Jewish
American businessman” who was “making a lot of philanthropic contributions
to Israeli institutions and activities like education.” Barak acknowledged
that Rich had “violated certain rules of the game in the United States.” But
“I just wanted to let you know that here he is highly appreciated,” the
Israeli said. Clinton was hardly caught off guard. “I know about that case
because I know his ex-wife,” Clinton said, referring to Denise Rich. “She
wants to help him, too. If your ex-wife wants to help you, that’s good.”
Barak responded, somewhat inaccurately: “Oh, I know his new wife only, an
Italian woman, very young.”



Rich is a billionaire commodities trader who fled the United States after he
and his companies were indicted by federal prosecutors on numerous counts of
fraud, tax evasion and making false statements. For the past 17 years, he
has lived in Switzerland and has avoided extradition to face the U.S.
charges. He claims to have renounced his U.S. citizenship, though the State
Department says it has no formal record of a request. According to his
attorney, he holds citizenship in Spain and Israel.
His lawyer claims Rich was prosecuted under federal racketeering statutes
that are no longer used. He also says Rich faced criminal charges for what
are generally considered to be civil penalties -- punishible by fines but
not jail. The prosecutors who handled the case insist Rich could still be
prosecuted today under a different set of laws. President Clinton says he
differentiated the original charges from civil 

[CTRL] DOD Can't Find $1.1 TRILLION - Rumsfeld Inherits Financial Disaster

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 http://www.rense.com/general12/dod.htm
DOD Can't Find $1.1 TRILLION -
Rumsfeld Inherits Financial Disaster
By Kelly Patricia O'Meara
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
InsightMag.com
8-15-1

The Defense Department cannot account for $1.1 trillion that seems to have
vanished within the tangled system of financial accounting put in place by
private contractors.

Every year trillions of dollars are unaccounted for by federal agencies, and
every year these same agencies are called before congressional oversight
committees to explain this mismanagement of taxpayers' funds.

   Year after year the bureaucratic mea culpas are longer on process and
shorter on substance, leaving overseers with little or no information that
is useful to correct the gross mismanagement. Take, for instance, the
financial mess at the Department of Defense (DOD).

   In May, DOD Deputy Inspector General Robert Lieberman reported to
Congress that the extensive DOD efforts to compile and audit the FY [fiscal
year] 2000 financial statements for the department as a whole and for the 10
subsidiary reporting entities like the Army, Navy and Air Force General
Funds, could not overcome the impediments caused by poor systems and
unreliable documentation of transactions and assets.

   Without ever using the word money, a practice common among
inspectors general (IGs), the deputy IG at the Pentagon read an eight-page
summary of DOD fiduciary failures. He admitted that $4.4 trillion in
adjustments to the Pentagon's books had to be cooked to compile the required
financial statements and that $1.1 trillion of that amount could not be
supported by reliable information. In other words, at the end of the last
full year on Bill Clinton's watch, more than $1 trillion was simply gone and
no one can be sure of when, where or to whom the money went.

   For most Americans, an official admission that $1.1 trillion in
taxpayers' money cannot be accounted for is incomprehensible. To put it in
perspective, consider that this missing sum would buy the following:


* nearly 14 million accounting degrees from any four-year state college,
estimating the cost at $20,000 per year;

* 36 million automobiles at an estimated cost of $30,000 each; and

* about 8 million single-family houses costing $140,000 per home.

   Also, consider this:


* Assuming the average working life is 30 years, the average annual income
is $34,000 and the average federal tax on that income is $6,830, nearly 5.5
million Americans will work their entire lives to pay $1.1 trillion in
taxes.

* In fiscal 1999, 124,227,000 Americans paid a total of more than $855
billion in individual income taxes, which means that the next year the
Pentagon misplaced, lost or otherwise cannot account for all the money the
IRS collected in fiscal 1999 from individual, estate, gift, corporate and
excise taxes.

   The General Accounting Office (GAO), which is the investigative arm
of Congress, wrote in its January 2001 report, DOD Major Management
Challenges and Program Risks, that the Pentagon continues to confront
pervasive and complex financial-management problems and has been on our list
of high-risk areas vulnerable to waste, fraud, abuse and mismanagement since
1995. To date, no major part of the department's operations has passed the
test of an independent financial audit because of pervasive weaknesses in
the department's financial-management systems, operations and controls.

   Specifically, the GAO found that the DOD had (1) an inability to
reconcile an estimated $7 billion difference between its available fund
balances and the Treasury's balance; (2) there were frequent adjustments of
recorded payments between appropriation accounts - with nearly $1 of every
$3 in fiscal year 1999 contract payments representing an adjustment; and (3)
there are incorrect or unsupported obligations.

   What this means to the average American is that the Pentagon
checking-account balance doesn't match the bank (Treasury) balance. One out
of every three dollars entered in the ledger had to be adjusted to get the
account in balance - with the Pentagon owing huge sums for which it cannot
account.

   Despite the comprehensive analysis of the DOD's finances by the GAO,
little, if any, specific information is provided about the contractors paid
hundreds of millions of dollars to put reliable and accurate
financial-accounting systems in place at DOD.
   The GAO made it clear in the January report that the DOD's
financial-management system is flawed with decades-old problems that will
be impossible to reverse overnight: They do not comply with federal
financial-management-systems requirements and were not designed to collect
data in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles. Yet
nowhere in the GAO report are the companies identified that were contracted
to put such systems in place.

   When asked why these contractors were allowed to remain anonymous,
especially in light of the 

[CTRL] Al's campaign took $4,000 donation week after Senate acquitted Clinton

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Tainted
funds
linked
to Gore Took contributions from execs
with ties to organized crime

August 13, 2001

By PETER URBAN

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

WASHINGTON -- Democratic Presidential candidate Al Gore accepted campaign
contributions from executives of a Connecticut business allegedly tied to
organized crime and the federal corruption investigation in Waterbury.

Executives of Worth Construction Co. donated $4,000 to the Gore campaign on
Feb. 19, 1999 -- a week after the Senate voted to acquit President Clinton
in his impeachment trial.

Worth President Joseph Pontoriero gave $1,000, as did his son, Michael, and
two other executives of the Bethel firm. Pontoriero was listed as an
unindicted co-conspirator in the 1987 trial of Genovese crime-family don
Anthony Fat Tony Salerno.

Worth Construction, whose offices were reportedly searched as part of an FBI
probe of Waterbury City Hall, was banned in 1998 from bidding on school
construction jobs in New York City because of Pontoriero's alleged mob ties.

Company officials have declined to speak to reporters.

Pontoriero's contribution to Gore 2000 was obscured by incomplete and
inaccurate documentation submitted by Gore campaign treasurer Jose Villareal
to the Federal Elections Commission.

Pontoriero's occupation was left blank on the form and his home address was
erroneously listed as being in Bridgeport. The address is actually the home
of another Joseph Pontoriero -- a school bus driver.

The Bridgeport resident told the Connecticut Post that he did not make the
$1,000 contribution and had no knowledge of another Joseph Pontoriero living
in Connecticut.

Villareal said that he had no idea how the mistaken address appeared on the
FEC report. He referred the Connecticut Post to Eric Kleinfeld, an elections
attorney working for the Gore campaign. Kleinfeld did not respond to a
request for an interview.

Larry Makinson, a senior fellow at the Center for Responsive Politics, said
that he has never heard of a similar disclosure snafu.

I feel sorry for the bus driver. He's going to be on every fund-raiser's
mailing list now, Makinson said.

It is not unusual, Makinson said, for a campaign to fail to fully disclose
the home address and occupation of donors that give at least $200.

According to the Center for Responsive Politics, the Gore campaign provided
incomplete information on 18.2 percent of its contributors. By comparison,
the CRP's analysis shows that Bush had missing information from 12.4 percent
of his contributors.

Pontoriero, who made the campaign contribution, is hardly a humble school
bus driver, but rather a wealthy Greenwich executive with a passion for
Ferrari racing cars.

Pontoriero and his son, Michael, appear to live in an exclusive waterfront
enclave of 33 homes where a 14,000-square-foot house on 6 acres sold for
more than $20.7 million in 1999.

The two are also members of the Northeast Region of the Ferrari Owners Club
and participate in the Ferrari Challenge racing circuit, according to
regional director Jamie Ross. The club's Web site lists the Pontorieros as
its relaxation chairmen.

Business documents filed with the Connecticut Secretary of the State list
Pontoriero's mailing address as 136 Field Point Circle. His son, Michael
Pontoriero, is listed as a trustee of the property and receives the property
tax bills, according to the Greenwich Assessors office.

The Gore campaign listed no occupation for Michael Pontoriero and gave his
home address as 37 Revere Place in Ridgefield.

The FEC document did disclose the occupation and residence of the two Worth
executives -- Diana L. Vossen (construction manager) of Danbury and William
Dizenzo (senior vice president) of Trumbull -- but Pontoriero's occupation
was left blank.

The FBI is examining records involving a $94 million upgrade to Waterbury's
sewage-treatment plant that was overseen by Worth Construction.

Worth, which was founded in 1978, has been barred since April 1998 by New
York City's School Construction Authority from ever bidding on school
projects in New York.

They were subjects of an investigation of criminal connections that were
between the president of the company and several organized crime figures,
said Daniel McCormack, a spokesman for the construction authority.

Worth was disqualified from bidding on New York school jobs after Pontoriero
refused to answer any questions from authorities about his alleged
association with gangsters.

At Salerno's 1987 trial, an FBI agent testified that a hidden microphone
recorded a conversation between Pontoriero and Salerno at Salerno's Palma
Boys Social Club in East Harlem, N.Y. The 1985 conversation was reported to
be about FBI surveillance.

Pontoriero's name appeared on a list of 172 unindicted co-conspirators that
prosecutors presented to prospective jurors.

Worth was also under 

[CTRL] Fw: New Evidence in Murder of Martin Luther King

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 M.L. King Murder A Government Plot,
 Mon Jul  9 18:23:44 2001


 Hi APFN,
   You have my permission to run this story on your worldwide network. If
 you want to pick up the pix, dial up my website for a few.  Nobody in
 the national media will touch it.  We have tried repeatedly. The MLK
 case is solved!  Does anyone care?
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 M.L. King Murder A Government Plot,
 Says Former CIA Participant. I was part of it.
 Raoul Identified as FBI Agent

 by Pat Shannan

  New evidence has surfaced in the 1968 Martin Luther King murder
 case. It is supplied by an insider who claims to have been part of a
 hit team that had come out of the Missouri Mafia headquartered in
 the town of Caruthersville, a small town in the bootheel section of that
 state. In a yet-to-be-published book, former County Deputy Jim Green
 reveals his assigned role in the conspiracy, the name of the actual
 trigger man, and the long-suspected involvement of J. Edgar
  Hoover and the FBI. Green also believes that he possesses the
 actual murder weapon, which he personally secreted away only hours after
 the murder.
 http://www.patshannan.bizland.com/mlkgreen.html
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[CTRL] The Truth About Black Slavery And The Confederate Flag

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 http://www.lewrockwell.com/sobran/sobran166.html
Slavery in Perspective
by Joseph Sobran
The recurrent fuss about Confederate flags has always struck me as silly,
and never more so than now. I've been reading Hugh Thomas's impressive
history, The Slave Trade (published by Touchstone/Simon  Schuster). It's
one of those books that shift your whole perspective on the past.

Thomas covers the Atlantic slave trade from 1440 to 1870. It was a literally
filthy business from first to last. More than 11,000,000 Africans were
brought to the New World, while countless others-probably about 2,000,000 –
died of miserable conditions in the overcrowded ships en route.

What I didn't know is that fewer than 5 per cent-about 500,000 – of these
Africans were brought to this country. Some 4,000,000 were carried to Brazil
by the Portuguese, 2,500,000 to Spanish possessions, 2,000,000 to the
British West Indies, and 1,600,000 to the French West Indies.

All this puts something of a damper on the assumption that slavery was a sin
specific or peculiar to the American South. The slaves had been Africans
who were sold to European merchants by other Africans who had enslaved them
in the first place. Several of Africa's proudest empires were built on the
sale of slaves. For centuries Africa's chief export was human beings. When
Congresswoman Maxine Waters speaks of my African ancestors' struggle for
freedom, she doesn't know what she's talking about. Slavery was an African
institution long before it spread to the South, and there was no abolition
movement to trouble it. When Europe banned the slave trade, African
economies reeled.

So it's rather comical for American blacks to sentimentalize Africa and
stress that they are African Americans while cursing the Confederate flag
as a symbol of slavery. Africa has a much better claim to be such a symbol.
Slavery still exists there, in Sudan and Mauritania and probably elsewhere.

As Christians, white Europeans always had a bad conscience about slavery.
They wrestled with the question of whether Africans had immortal souls and
natural rights. Even Southerners who justified slavery as a positive good
felt that it needed justification.

Pagans had no such qualms. They no more felt they needed to justify owning
slaves than owning cattle. Slavery was a fact of life, and slaves could be
killed, mutilated, and even eaten without compunction.

In the Arab world African slaves were highly prized as eunuchs. They were
used as guardians of harems and as civil servants, some of whom amassed
considerable power. But many young African men died in the process because
of inept or infected castration. The prevalence of eunuchs probably explains
why African slavery didn't leave the Arab world with a race problem. Given
this history, it's ironic that so many American blacks adopt Arab names to
spite the white man and to achieve a supposedly independent identity.

Thomas indirectly punctures another cherished American notion: that Abraham
Lincoln ended slavery. Lincoln is mentioned only three times, very
briefly, in the entire book. Against the huge backdrop of the slave trade,
he was only a local, marginal, and rather tardy figure. By 1850 it was clear
that slavery was doomed throughout the Christian world. But just as we
exaggerate our role in fostering slavery, we exaggerate our role in
destroying it. We Americans tend to be self-important even in our
self-flagellations.

The slave trade was so vast that a European might speculate in it, and
profit by it, without ever seeing a single slave. Such distinguished authors
as John Locke, Edward Gibbon, and Voltaire drew income from it. Voltaire was
especially hypocritical. He took the self-serving view that it was less
immoral for a European to buy Africans than it was for other Africans to
sell them; and after denouncing the slave trade for years, he accepted
delightedly when a merchant offered to name a slave ship after him.

Thomas tells the whole story without much moralizing. He knows the facts
speak for themselves, in all their horror and pathos: people stolen from
their homes, robbed of their freedom and even their identities, often dying
namelessly amid unspeakable squalor, with no families or friends to mourn or
memorialize their passing. The ones who survived to be slaves in the New
World, though unenviable, were relatively lucky.

But in the end, the Christian conscience prevailed.

Thank God.

June 16, 2001

Joe Sobran is a nationally syndicated columnist. He also writes Washington
Watch for The Wanderer, a weekly Catholic newspaper, and edits SOBRAN'S, a
monthly newsletter of his essays and columns.

Get a free copy of Joe Sobran's lecture, How Tyranny Came to America by
subscribing to SOBRAN'S. See www.sobran.com for details. For a free sample
of SOBRAN'S or for more information, call 800-513-5053.

Copyright (c) 2001 by Griffin Internet Syndicate. All rights reserved.

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[CTRL] Scientist finds fungus that eats through compact discs

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[CTRL] Over a quarter-million federal workers fail to pay taxes

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 http://www.knoxstudio.com/shns/story.cfm?pk=DEADBEATS-06-15-01cat=WW
Over a quarter-million federal workers fail to pay taxes
By LANCE GAY
Scripps Howard News Service
June 15, 2001

WASHINGTON - IRS records show that 340,000 federal government employees or
retirees getting government pensions last year owed a total of $2.5 billion
in unpaid taxes.

That number includes 2,975 federal workers who were employed by the IRS
itself, which operates under a 1998 law that says IRS employees can be
reprimanded if they are found making an intentional error that results in
underpayment of taxes, or fired if they are found to be negligent in paying
their taxes.

All federal employees are currently covered by ethics laws, adopted in 1992,
that require them to pay their taxes as a condition of their continued
employment.

Employees shall satisfy in good faith their obligations as citizens,
including all just financial obligations, especially those such as federal,
state or local taxes that are imposed by law, the regulations state.

A review of IRS records, conducted by the congressional General Accounting
Office this year, found that the rate of noncompliance among more than 8
million federal employees and retirees was about 5 percent. There was a 7
percent noncompliance rate among the general public. The IRS estimates the
total of unpaid taxes is $240 billion.

Jeffrey Steinhoff, managing director for the GAO's financial management
staff, noted there are more stringent requirements for federal employees
than for the general public.

If the general public perceives that federal workers and annuitants can
successfully evade their tax obligations, voluntary compliance - the
foundation of the U.S. tax system - could be eroded, he said.

The GAO said the lack of any regular federal withholding of income taxes on
federal retirement checks seems to be the reason that 20 percent of federal
retirees failed to file. The retirees accounted for 54 percent of the total
number of tax delinquents among federal employees.

Among the findings:

- 36 percent of the cases were delinquent for more than one year.

- 29 percent of the cases involved $1.4 billion in uncollected taxes
assessed before 1995.

- About 2,300 government employees or retirees had been found willfully
responsible for failing to pay the proper amount of taxes, resulting in a
total of $155 million in IRS penalty assessments. One of these cases
involved a federal retiree who failed to send in withholding taxes collected
from employees of two businesses he ran.

Rep. Jim Turner, R-Texas, who requested the report, said while the federal
tax evasion rate is lower than the general public, it's not low enough.

These are the same people that are getting monthly paychecks from the
government, and yet they have managed to skip out on their taxes. A private
business would never stand for this, and the government needs to strive for
that same efficiency, he said.

IRS Commissioner Charles Rossotti said his agency last year streamlined the
accounting procedures for federal employees, and is looking at new
educational programs to reduce tax delinquency rates among federal
employees.

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[CTRL] Does the Confiscation of your Firearms Lie Ahead?

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 http://www.gunowners.org/a061301.htm
Does the Confiscation of your Firearms Lie Ahead?
-- Congressman sponsors bill to drive a stake through Brady's registration
scheme
Gun Owners of America E-Mail/FAX Alert
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408
(Wednesday, June 13, 2001) -- Greece. Ireland. Jamaica. Bermuda. England.
New York City. What do all of these countries or jurisdictions have in
common?

The answer: each government used gun registration lists to later confiscate
firearms. And yes, this even happened in our own country as documented by
the New York City media several years ago. (For example, see Weapons ban
defied: S.I. man, arsenal seized, Daily News, September 5, 1992.)

Federal Gun Registration
Well, fast forward to 2001. There is a growing concern among the gun-owning
community that names are permanently being registered in a federal database
as a result of the 1993 Brady law. In most cases, a person who buys a
firearm from a gun dealer must have his name phoned in to the FBI for a
background check. The FBI compares that name to a list of known criminals,
and then lets the dealer know if the sale can proceed.

But no one can be certain of what the FBI does with that gun owner's name.
Officially, the FBI is supposed to delete the names of lawful buyers after
180 days. FBI officials say that's what they are doing.

But they also said they gave Timothy McVeigh's defense all the files they
had... and that they never fired any pyrotechnics into the Branch Davidian
home in Waco... and that they knew Michael Salvati of Massachusetts was
guilty of murdering a man in 1965 -- when in reality the FBI suppressed
evidence that would have cleared Salvati, thus sparing him the 30 years he
later spent in jail. The FBI has since been forced to come clean on these
and other issues.

See the problem? How can gun owners be sure they are getting the truth?

Which, of course, takes us back to gun owner registration. Once a name is
punched into an FBI computer, can anyone be positively sure that name will
ever be deleted? Can anyone be sure that no back up will exist -- anywhere?

Brady Abuse Cut-off
One of the highest agenda items at Gun Owners of America is to roll back the
unconstitutional Brady law. Taking a major stride toward that goal, Rep.
Joel Hefley (R-CO) has introduced a bill, H.R. 1460, that will keep the FBI
from taxing and registering gun owners.

H.R. 1460 is identical to the language introduced by Sen. Bob Smith of New
Hampshire three years ago -- legislation that would have, if fully enacted,
cut the heart out of the Brady law. The Hefley language calls for the
immediate destruction of ANY and ALL information that might help identify
lawful gun buyers. But the best part about this bill is that it does more
than just put restrictions on the FBI -- restrictions that might otherwise
be ignored.

H.R. 1460 contains teeth. Private individuals will be specifically
authorized to sue the FBI for any violations of privacy under the Brady
Law -- such as maintaining registration information. Moreover, the bill
specifically offers to compensate gun owners for legal fees when they sue
the FBI.

ACTION: Please urge your Representative to cosponsor the Hefley bill, H.R.
1460. Ultimately, of course, true defenders of freedom realize that the
entire Brady Law, including the unconstitutional Instant Check, must be
repealed. The Hefley bill would be -- in the words of Sarah Brady -- a good
first step.

Please use the pre-written text below to help direct your comments to
Capitol Hill.

You can call your Representatives at 1-877-762-8762 (toll free) or at
202-225-3121. To identify your Representatives, as well as to send a message
via e-mail, see the Legislative Action Center at
http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm on the GOA website.

- Pre-written message -
Dear Representative:

I urge you to cosponsor H.R. 1460, the Second Amendment Rights Protection
Act of 2001. This bill is extremely important, since it will stop the FBI
attempts to register and tax gun owners.

H.R. 1460 contains real teeth. It gives aggrieved private citizens the
ability to sue the FBI, and to collect monetary damages -- including
attorney's fees -- if a court determines the FBI is registering gun owners.
Relying on the police to police themselves is never the best way to go. This
bill would help protect the privacy of American citizens.

Again, please cosponsor H.R. 1460. Gun Owners of America will keep me
informed on the progress of this bill.

Sincerely,

 GOA Alert-- June 13, 2001.url

[CTRL] FW: RED ALERT: UNRESOLVED DEATHS in OKLAHOMA

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UNRESOLVED DEATHS in OKLAHOMA
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By Michael A. O'Camb
6-14-1

In the first minutes and hours following the blasts
that devastated the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building
in downtown Oklahoma City, the morning of April 19,
1995, a number of selfless individuals risked life and
limb to rescue many of the victims. Among them were
Oklahoma City police officers, Terrance Yeakey, Gordon
Martin and Ken Griffin, a number of Oklahoma City
firefighters, Dr. H. Don Chumley, G.S.A. employee Mike
Loudenslager and others.

In the aftermath of the bombing the name Mike
Loudenslager holds particular significance in the
hearts of many families in and around Oklahoma City.
And this is so, because of the forewarning he gave to
a number of those who had children in the Murrah
Building's day-care center. In the weeks preceding the
bombing, G.S.A. employee, Michael Loudenslager, 48,
became increasingly aware that large amounts of
ordnance and explosives were in the building and
strongly urged (along with the operator of the
day-care center) a number of parents to take their
children out of the Murrah Building.

This situation arose after other employees became
concerned with an increased amount of ordnance
(missiles) being brought into the building by the
B.A.T.F. and D.E.A. As a result of this concern, a
grievance was filed with G.S.A. by the building's
security director. The result was, the man who'd
complained lost his job there. Then, after the
operator of the day-care center (the security
director's wife) notified the fire marshals after some
remodeling had been done (as her license required her
to do), the fire marshals were denied access to do
their inspection by federal agents and told to leave!
And the day-care operator lost her contract.

As a result of this (fearing the worst with all the
talk around town of a possible bombing), Mike
Loudenslager and the day-care center operator then
told many of the parents to get their children out.
And, because of their warnings, far fewer children
were in the day-care center on that horrible Wednesday
morning than there otherwise would have been. A number
of families, in and around Oklahoma City, have these
two people to thank for their children's lives today.

Shortly after the bombing, Michael Loudenslager was
actively helping in the rescue and recovery effort. A
large number of those at the bomb-site either saw or
talked with him. During the course of the early rescue
efforts, however, Mike Loudenslager was seen and heard
in a very heated confrontation with someone (there).
Much of his anger stemmed from the fact he felt the
B.A.T.F. was in large part responsible not only for
the bombing, but for the death and inury to those
inside, including all the children.

To the absolute astonishment of a large number of
police officers and rescue workers, it was later
reported that G.S.A. employee Mike Loudenslager's body
had been found inside the Murrah Building the
following Sunday, still at his desk, a victim of the
9:02 A.M. bombing! This, mind you, after he'd already
been seen alive and well by numerous rescue workers at
the bomb-site AFTER the bombing! He is also officially
listed as one of the 168 bombing fatalities.

The question now becomes: Was he murdered and placed
at his desk by federal agents? Or was he just simply
murdered by them and SAID to have been found at his
desk? Access to the inside of the building, from
shortly after the bombing onward was extremely limited
to nearly all but federal employees by the F.B.I.

His death is UNQUESTIONABLY the most important
sidelight of the Oklahoma City bombing. Mike
Loudenslager's murder, most assuredly was one of the
major factors leading to the demise of both Dr. H. Don
Chumley and later Terry Yeakey.

For whatever reason, the Oklahoma City Police Dept.
has always down-played Officer Terry Yeakey's presence
at the Murrah Building the morning of April 19, 1995,
even though a large number of Oklahoma City police
officers, firefighters, emergency personnel and
survivors KNOW he played a much larger role in the
early rescue-effort than he's given credit for.

In an effort to cover up Mike Loudenslager's murder
and to intimidate others who were there early-on that
morning, someone has taken out a number of internal
witnesses. Dr. Don Chumley AND Terry Yeakey, both,
besides being at the Murrah Building that morning,
shared one other commonality. Each at the time of his
death was attempting to deliver EVIDENCE concerning
the fact Mike Loudenslager was alive and well AFTER
the bombing, and also to 

[CTRL] FW: Tom McVey Bombed OKC 4 years prior to Tim McVeigh...

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Do regulated thoughts run freely though your head ?


MCVEIGH's DEATH CERTIFICATE CAUSE of DEATH WILL READ:

HOMOCIDE


WACO BODY COUNT INCREASES by ONE


A book written by OK Governor Frank Keating's Brother, 4 years
BEFORE OKC BOMBING, featured a bomber named TOM MCVEY, pulled
over like McVeigh for a minor equipment violation. Do I hear
masonic orchestrated coreography ?  Lemme hear hell yeah!  FRANK
KEATING used to be head of ATF and was FBI hotshot. Keating's
book also predicted TWA and World Trade Center bombing.  Keating
family career intelligence operatives and agent provacatuers. It
gets even more interesting.  read on...

Subj:   Key OKC Witness Rubbed Out Today
Date:   6/11/01 7:21:29 AM Central Daylight Time
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED])


Key OKC Witness Rubbed Out Today

Devvy Kidd

The bombing of the Murrah Building was over six years ago.
Memories fade about things so I thought I'd resurrect one of the
strangest aspects of this bombing you're not going to believe -
but it's true. Try this one on for size:

Governor Frank Keating's brother, Martin Keating, wrote a
manuscript in 1991, roughly four years before the OKC bombing.
Gov. Frank Keating is a former FBI hot shot. His brother, Martin
could not get this work published until after the bombing. This
manuscript, now a published book, is titled The Final Jihad. In
this book, Keating lays out a story of terrorists, based in OKC,
who decide to bomb a federal building. Guess what the name of
the one of the key terrorists in the book is? Tom McVey. And
for the kicker of this fictional work: The terrorists in The
Final Jihad are stopped by an Oklahoma highway patrolman for a
broken tail light. Now, let me see: We have a book in manuscript
form written four years before the OKC bombing whose story line
involves terrorists in Oklahoma City. This part of this
fictional work comes true.

We have a main character in the book by the name of Tom McVey.
In real life, the bomber four years later in OKC is named Tim
McVeigh.

We have the terrorists in this fictional work stopped by
Oklahoma state troopers for a broken tail light. In real life,
our bomber, Tim McVeigh, is pulled over by an Oklahoma state
trooper because of a missing license plate.

How's that for fiction being stranger than reality? In this
book, remember it's written in 1991, our author also predicts
the TWA downing and the World Trade Center bombing. Was this
just a premonition that Mr. Keating had? Who knows, but this
book sure does sound like a blue print for the bombing.

What is Mr. Martin Keating's background? In his own words:

http://www.firstkeating.com/author.htm

Martin Keating is a master storyteller with unique access to
government intelligence agencies and clandestine terrorist
groups. His brother Frank Keating, currently governor of
Oklahoma, is a former FBI agent and assistant secretary of the
Treasury who supervised the Secret Service, U.S. Customs, and
the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms. Keating's uncle,
Barney Martin was a career intelligence officer who headed the
U.S. Navy's worldwide foreign intelligence collection operations
and counterintelligence activities.

Introduced to the intelligence community through generations of
family involvement, Martin Keating knows intimate details of
what the rest of us can only imagine. Armed with firsthand
knowledge of explosives and of chemical and biological weapons,
Keating accurately reveals what the highest government officials
have known, feared, and covered up for much too long.

Martin Keating also bragged after the bombing that he had copies
of the surveillance film from the Southwest Bell building across
the street from the Murrah building. The film from the Regency
Towers survived completely intact. The government claims the
Southwest Bell film didn't - my money says they're lying and
they're lying to protect their assets and their invented story.
There wasn't a scintilla of this strange story in any media
publications except Media Bypass Magazine. You would think the
mainstream media would have jumped on this like a June-bug
just because of who the author of the manuscript is: Brother of
the Governor of the State of Oklahoma. Nope. Dead silence.

Has anyone ever put Martin Keating under oath and ask him to
produce these video surveillance films? Nope.

There is talk that Frank Keating - who states emphatically on
the live news coverage the morning of the bombing that more
bombs were found and have been removed from the building (a
statement he now denies, but is memorialized on film) - may be
slated to replace Louis Freeh. Oh, good, that makes me feel real
warm and fuzzy.

I just thought I'd 

[CTRL] Fw: Audio Portion of Feeds to CNN Day Of Oklahoma City Bombing

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[CTRL] FW: News Release

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 BEIJING (Reuters) -

 Chinese officials have stated that they are holding the United States,
 fully responsible for today's mid-air collision, involving several
Chinese

 aircraft and one American craft. This comes just weeks after a similar
 incident involving a U.S. spy plane.

 Officials have stated that at approximately 8:25 a.m., GMT, a
 squadron of Chinese F-8 fighters collided with the American Goodyear
 Blimp. The crash left over a dozen Chinese planes downed and the
 blimp's electronic billboard damaged. Sources say the billboard's
 scrolling marquee had been advertising 7-UP soft drink, and now only
 leaving the line Up yours in view.

 A Chinese pilot who witnessed the collision between his squadron,
 nicknamed, Panda Rash told China's Xinhua news agency that he saw
 the American blimp dive out of the clouds and into wingman Sum Yung
 Phucker's F-8 jet.

 I told Yaun Wing Lo his tail was all broken. Keep it straight. Keep
 it straight, said the pilot. He just couldn't shake the American
 foreign-devil. The blimp then reportedly veered hard left and then
 right, taking out the rest of the squadron.

 Pilot Chawp Suey Wussy told Xinhua the American blimp was fully
 responsible for the incident, repeating the language Beijing has
 used in the earlier incident.

 China blames this new accident on the Goodyear blimp, saying it
 rammed the supersonic fighters, and has demanded an apology.
 Officials from the Goodyear Company have said it is unlikely that the
 slow propeller-driven blimp could turn inside and ram a dozen nimble
 fighters, unless the Chinese were testing chimp pilots.

 The direct cause of the collision was that the American blimp made a
 sudden big move toward the Chinese planes, making it impossible for
 the Chinese planes to get out of the way, Suey Wussy was quoted as
 saying. The savage act of American blimps colliding with Chinese
 planes while conducting spying activities at sporting events makes us
 indignant, he was quoted as saying.

 Chinese officials are calling for an apology from the United States
 and, seriously, enough Goodyear tires to replace the Firestone's that
 experienced spontaneous combustion last year. U.S. officials
 expressed regret, but would not allow an apology until the matter
 could be investigated further.

 In a related story Goodyear has not commented on whether it has
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[CTRL] China Broke U.S. Military Codes After Taking Plane

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 http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/6/7/193114.shtml
China Broke U.S. Military Codes After Taking Plane
Charles R. Smith
Friday, June 8, 2001
China broke secret U.S. military codes after the capture of a Navy aircraft.
Japanese defense officials informed the Pentagon that the Link-11 secure
military communication system was compromised after a U.S. Navy plane was
forced down. Japanese defense officials confirmed that Tokyo ordered its
defense forces to change Link-11 codes immediately after the EP-3E was
captured.

The U.S. Navy EP-3E surveillance aircraft held by China is equipped with the
most advanced version of the NATO Link-11 secure communication system. The
Navy aircraft was forced to land on Hainan Island after a collision with a
Chinese air force F-8 interceptor in April.

Japan has bought several EP-3E aircraft from America and shares the Link-11
system with U.S. allies in NATO. The Link-11 system passes information
between ground stations and airborne early-warning aircraft of the Japan Air
Self-Defense Force.

The EP-3E in question, aircraft PR-32, was equipped with the latest version
of the NATO Link-11 system, code named Story Book. Japanese officials are
concerned that, even if the hard drives of the computers were magnetically
wiped and the CD-ROM key disks were destroyed, there is still much the
Chinese could learn.

Chinese Army Uses Stolen U.S. System

Chinese military engineers are already very familiar with the U.S. designed
Link-11 communication system. The Chinese military employs a stolen version
of the U.S.-made Link-11. The Link W system employed by the People's
Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) is an unlicensed copy of the U.S. Navy Link-11.

Japan also shares the Link-11 system with America. Japan has two new Boeing
767 airliners, equipped with huge American designed radars to monitor
aircraft and missile activity inside China. The Link-11 communication
systems in these aircraft are identical to those used on the captured
American EP-3E. Japanese military officials are worried that the new Boeing
early-warning aircraft will be jammed and unable to pass critical data to
command posts in the event of war with China.

The Japan Defense Agency in Tokyo ordered an immediate evaluation of the
risks to Japan after the U.S. Navy EP-3E was captured. Taiwan and Japan
regularly fly electronic surveillance aircraft in the Sea of Japan and the
East China Sea to monitor Chinese army communications and Chinese navy
warship activity. Since the April EP-3E incident, Japanese and Taiwanese
flights have been escorted by fighters and watched closely by radar.

Navy and CIA Ignored Warnings

Pentagon sources are convinced that the EP-3E incident was not an accident.
In March, U.S. Navy intelligence officials ignored the repeated close
encounters with the Chinese air force's jets, deciding that they were the
actions of a single hot-shot pilot.

Now defense analysts stated that they are certain that Chinese pilot Wang
Wei acted with permission from PLAAF command. The Chinese air force operates
under a strict Soviet-style control system that does not allow pilots to fly
close passes without permission.

In addition, Chinese army intelligence officials warned their American
counterparts in January that the People's Liberation Army disapproved of
American spy satellites, warning that the PLA might shoot one down in the
future. CIA officials reportedly ignored the warnings from Beijing at the
time.

Defense officials now acknowledge the China has the capability of disabling
or destroying a U.S. satellite. U.S. spy satellites are considered strategic
assets and are monitoring Chinese military exercises. U.S. satellites also
monitored the recent deployment of Chinese DF-11 and DF-15 mobile missiles
to forward bases opposite Taiwan.

Army's Anti-satellite Weapons

The Chinese military has several active anti-satellite programs and has
demonstrated a conventional space-rocket-launched anti-satellite weapon.
More importantly, the People's Liberation Army Air Force is working on an
aircraft launched anti-satellite missile that can pop up unexpectedly to
attack U.S. satellites.

The PLAAF program reportedly included the purchase of a MiG-31 Foxhound
aircraft from Russia to fire a large, two-stage, anti-satellite missile. The
Russian Foxhound is capable of flying at speeds in excess of 2,000 miles an
hour at extremely high altitudes. Apparently the Chinese attempt to buy the
Foxhound from Moscow has failed. However, the new Chinese J-11 Flanker jet
fighter is capable of carrying the large anti-satellite missile.

The Chinese army is also working on a ground-based laser designed to destroy
or disable U.S. satellites. Recent translations of Chinese military
documentation show that the PLA accelerated development of beam weapons
during 2000. The new PLA anti-satellite laser is estimated to be able to
deliver over 10,000 watts of output power on a target up to 500 miles away.

 China Broke U.S. Military 

[CTRL] Burger King Customer Revenge

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 http://www.rochesternews.com/0605story13.html
Worker testifies to food tainting
By Michael Zeigler
Democrat and Chronicle

(Tuesday, June 5, 2001) -- As cooks prepared sandwiches at a Burger King
restaurant in Henrietta, they kept an assembly line of fast food moving
smoothly.

But when customers asked to hold the pickles or hold the lettuce -- or
requested any special order that would break the tempo -- some cooks became
upset and retaliated, a former employee said yesterday.

Testifying in the trial of Scott B. Savino, who is charged with sickening a
customer by spraying a sandwich with oven cleaner, Daniel P. Musson said he
and Savino frequently laced sandwiches with cleaning products or spit on and
skated on frozen meat patties that were thrown to the kitchen floor before
being flame-broiled.

Musson, who pleaded guilty and agreed to testify against Savino, said he
gave little thought to their actions.

I thought it'd be funny and it was a cool thing to do at the time, he
said.

Were you laughing when you did this? Musson was asked by Monroe County
Assistant District Attorney Jim Wolford.

Yes, sir, Musson replied.

Was the defendant?

Yes, sir.

Did he say anything to you?

Just -- 'They're going to get a good one,' or 'You've got a good one,' or
'They're going to like this one,'  Musson said.

Savino, 20, of Henrietta is charged with second-degree assault and
first-degree tampering with a consumer product. He is accused of injuring
Monroe County Sheriff's Deputy Gamaliel Tony Dominguez, who became
violently ill on April 30, 2000, after eating a Whopper sandwich at the
restaurant on the New York state Thruway.

Savino could receive up to seven years in prison if convicted. Jurors might
receive the case tomorrow.

Musson, 19, of Henrietta, pleaded guilty last fall to first-degree tampering
with a consumer product. He faces a penalty ranging from six months of
weekends in jail to three years in prison when he is sentenced next week.

Musson said he pleaded guilty in an attempt to make things right.

What I did was wrong, he said. I believe that if you did it, 'fess up to
it.

Musson said he was spitting on special-order sandwiches before Savino began
working at the restaurant in October 1999. The tampering escalated as they
teamed up, he said.

On one occasion, Savino and Musson stuck two frozen meat patties above a
suspended ceiling for five days, then cooked and served them.

It was flimsy, he said of his patty after it was cooked. It had a
brownish tinge to it like freezer burn.

Musson also said Savino claimed to have urinated on a patty, but he admitted
that he didn't see it happen.

During cross-examination, Savino's lawyer, Michael J. Tallon, concentrated
on discrepancies between Musson's testimony and what he said previously to
investigators and grand jurors.

 DemocratandChronicle.com - Tuesday, June 5, 2001.url

[CTRL] Fw: 'ALL HELL BREAKING LOOSE' IN NEPAL - A RESIDENT'S VERSION OF EVENTS

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 Forwarded message

 'All Hell Breaking Loose' In Nepal - A Resident's Version Of Events

 By Cynthia Edwards
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Monday, June 4, 2001

 Dear Friends -

 Today is a dark day in the history of the world and about
 to become darker.

 Friday night the entire royal family of Nepal and their
 body guards were brutally murdered in cold blood at the
 regular Friday night family gathering (this included the
 9 month old princess).

 What has been reported as a family squabble with the
 crown prince killing everyone and then shooting himself,
 and even a gun going off by itself (somehow killing 30+
 people, some of whom were not in the same room?!) are
 outright lies.

 Immediately, the Royals were burned, much sooner than
 would be normal practice. The crown prince, the supposed
 killer, was made king while lying brain dead.

 Ironically, the king's brother, Gyanendra was out of
 town. At the same time his nephew, Paresh, a known
 murderer of at least 5 people(!) was in the place . So
 was the king's other brother Direndra, who has been
 living in London since 1990 and has been estranged from
 the royal family. Both brothers are criminals who have
 been involved with stealing and selling the antiquities
 of Nepal, drugs selling, and who knows what else. Both
 brothers vehemently were against democracy in Nepal and
 there was a huge fight between them all when King
 Birendra gave up the powers of the Monarchy in 1990 and
 declared a democracy for Nepal. It has long been known
 that Gyanendra has had a CIA link as well as ties to the
 government of India. What those connections are in this
 whole affair remains to be seen. There are no secrets in
 Nepal!

 Since Saturday most people have known the prince was dead
 even though the official news was saying otherwise.
 People knew they were being lied to but they were in
 shock so the streets were fairly quiet for 2 days. But as
 early as saturday afternoon, crowds were gathering
 outside the palace and at the funeral chanting, Kill the
 criminals, Kill Gyandera.  In the meantime, more and
 more inside news was leaking out and it was fast becoming
 clear that this was a carefully orchestrated plot by at
 least the 2 brothers and nephew to seize control of
 Nepal.

 This morning, the prince was officially declared dead.
 One hour later, as I am writing this, Gyanendra has just
 been crowned king with full regalia, the Prime Minister
 and political leaders standing mutely by. Clearly this
 was all planned WELL in advance to be able to pull this
 off so quickly! And clearly the Prime Minister is either
 afraid to say anything or else is in collusion. And
 Paresh has already been sent to London for safety.

 I can hear the shouts of crowds in the street heading
 toward the palace. People are furious that Gyanendra,
 murderer of his own family and their king, has now been
 made king. And this anger has been building for a long
 time as a totally corrupt government has been running
 this country into the ground since the advent of
 democracy in 1990.

 The army is in the street along with hundreds of
 thousands of people, roads are closed, and no one knows
 what will happen. We fear a blood bath as Gyanendra now
 controls the army. The lastest report from a friend on
 the street is that tear gas is being fired into the
 crowds.

 Democracy was struggling in Nepal, at best, but now it is
 sure to die a swift death.

 Perhaps it doesn't matter to you what happens in this far
 away tiny country, so unrelated to your own lives. But at
 least you can know the truth and tell others so these
 people will not have died in vain. If you have a
 computer, go to Nepalnews.com.np and click on NepaliTimes
 - it is our most radical paper we have though we don't
 yet know if they will be brave enough to print the truth.

 I have no idea will become of me and other foreigners
 here. Only time will tell. It's pretty frightening right
 now and hopefully they will not target us in their
 frustration but go after the real criminals now holding
 the power.

 Please pass this on to others so the world knows what is
 really happening here, or at least as far as we can
 figure out. But please don't believe the foreign press!

 Pray for us all, Cynthia
 http://www.wlink.com.np

 End of forwarded message

 Jai Maharaj
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[CTRL] Fw: Can I Steal Your Automobile ???

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[CTRL] Mugabe's men on the run from witchcraft

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 http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/
Mugabe's men on the run from witchcraft


RW Johnson





 ZIMBABWE'S embattled president, Robert Mugabe, is facing a new crisis: a
growing belief among his followers that he and his government have become
the victims of black magic, and that bad luck follows them at every turn.

Emmerson Mnangagwa, the much feared former head of the secret police and
Mugabe's designated successor, was visibly troubled when he went on
television last week to discuss recent setbacks, including the deaths of two
ministers in separate road accidents.

We don't know what is hitting us, he lamented. It's not natural.
Something else must be happening.

A regional leader of the ruling Zanu-PF party went further, saying: We fear
the hand of Lucifer is at work.

The comments follow an unprecedented sequence of disasters for Mugabe.
First, his brutal and dynamic campaign organiser, Border Gezi, was killed in
a car crash.

Gezi had created a slush fund within his Ministry for Youth and Job Creation
that was used to pay election bribes in every municipal poll and
parliamentary by-election.

Mugabe had been counting on Gezi to get him re-elected as president next
year.

His trade minister, Nkosana Moyo, quietly shipped himself and his family to
the safety of South Africa before announcing he had resigned from the
cabinet on the grounds that Mugabe's policies had made his job impossible.

Then the defence minister, Moven Mahachi, was killed in another car
accident. Mahachi, an unconditional loyalist, was responsible for the
detention and torture of two leading black journalists last year.

The opposition Movement for Democratic Change (MDC) had earlier persuaded a
court to set aside several election results because widespread violence by
Mugabe's party meant they had not been fair.

The judge brave enough to reach this decision had to resign the next day but
a legal precedent had been set for MDC challenges in more than two dozen
other seats.

Meanwhile, the invasions of urban businesses by Mugabe's shock troops, the
war veterans, have rebounded so badly that they not only had to be called
off, but the government claimed they had been carried out by rogue
elements.

Among Zanu-PF's often superstitious supporters, the greatest impact has come
from the deaths of Gezi and Mahachi and the electrifying news that Hitler
Hunzvi, the war veterans' leader who led the invasions of white farms, had
collapsed.

Conscious that his macho image was on the line, Hunzvi discharged himself a
few days later, but he has collapsed again and is officially back in
hospital suffering from cerebral malaria.

On the streets of Harare, the word is that all this is the work of a
powerful sangoma (witchdoctor) the MDC is said to have brought from South
Africa - a rumour the opposition ridicules.

But such superstition has permeated even the educated elite. When Mugabe
approached several leading businessmen about taking over the trade ministry,
he was turned down. To get involved with Mugabe is to invite bad luck into
your life, said one.

Although Mugabe is notionally a Catholic, he has increasingly fallen back on
the tribal religions that many Zimbabweans combine to a greater or lesser
degree with Christianity.

Mugabe's supporters are vocal in their traditionalist beliefs. The war vets
have their own spirit medium, Sekuru Mushore, whose dictum is that those
who die killing a white man will have no sin before Jehovah.

Mushore has his troubles with the law because he openly insists that using
marijuana and having sex with young women are legitimate parts of the
rituals he performs.

Similarly, many of Mugabe's rural supporters belong to the Va Pastori
church, whose followers proclaim a brand of Christianity but are frequently
caught up in witchcraft rituals.

But Mugabe's encouragement of tribal religion and scorn for the modern world
has now rebounded on him, for his authority and air of invulnerability has
been badly dented by the black magic explanations for his run of bad luck.



 The Sunday Times.url

[CTRL] Bataan Death March

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I served with a man who survived this march. Being young (19) and not having
seen any combat at the time I asked him about Bataan, he replied would you
care to dig your own grave while your buddies were forced to bury you
alive? After looking at his icy stare I knew it was something not to be
discussed, after serving in a combat unit I had experiences I wish could be
forgotten.

Atrocities??? check out the link!

 http://history.acusd.edu/gen/st/~ehimchak/death_march.html
Bataan Death March


Follow the Bataan Death March
In March 1942, Homma began his plans for the American and Filipino troops
who would become Prisoners of War. He planned on moving them to Camp
O'Donnell, about one hundred miles away. According to the Japanese military,
this was not a long distance, and their troops could easily accomplish it
within a few days. However, those on Bataan were not in good physical
health. Since January they had been on half-rations or less. During the
surrender agreement, King told Homma that he had more men than the Japanese
planned for and that they were ill and undernourished. But Homma ignored
these facts, plus King's offer to drive the troops to the prison camps.
According to the Japanese, once the POWs were in their captivity, they could
do with them as they wished, and King's requests were disgraceful. (47)




U.S. prisoners on Bataan sorting equipment while Japanese guards look on.
Following this, the Americans and Filipinos started on the Death March to
Camp O'Donnell in central Luzon. Over 50,000 prisoners were held at this
camp. A few U.S. troops escaped capture and carried on as guerrillas.

From: Hunter, p. 45
From the day of surrender on, the POWs would be harshly beaten and killed
for the slightest or no reason at all. Officer status did not provide
protection either. First the troops were searched. Any prisoner found with
Japanese souvenirs was executed immediately, because the Japanese believed
the soldier must have killed a Japanese soldier in order to get it. Many
soldiers had found these items, such as money and shaving mirrors. Their own
personal property was usually stolen as well. (48)




Articles Carried on Death March. Crucifix and other possessions of Lt. Col.
Dyess. The tobacco can was his billfold.

From: Dyess, between pp. 96-97



The Bataan Death March.
U.S. National Archives

From: Daws, p. 229
The Bataan Death March began at Mariveles on April 10, 1942. Any troops who
fell behind were executed. Japanese troops beat soldiers randomly, and
denied the POWs food and water for many days. One of their tortures was
known as the sun treatment. The Philippines in April is very hot. Therefore,
the POWs were forced to sit in the sun without any shade, helmets, or water.
Anyone who dared ask for water was executed. On the rare occasion they were
given any food, it was only a handful of contaminated rice. When the
prisoners were allowed to sleep for a few hours at night, they were packed
into enclosures so tight that they could barely move. Those who lived
collapsed on the dead bodies of their comrades. For only a brief part of the
march would POWs be packed into railroad cars and allowed to ride. Those who
did not die in the suffocating boxcars were forced to march about seven more
miles until they reached their camp. It took the POWs over a week to reach
their destination. (49) Those on Corregidor would suffer the same fate as
their fellow soldiers on Bataan did as they too were transferred to Bataan.




The infamous Death March from Bataan in 1942, showing thinning file of
prisoners carrying comrades who dropped along the way.

Photo by: Wide World Photos, From: Buchanan, between pp. 108-109 photo #7



The Bataan Death March-the end of the road.

U.S. National Archives, From: Daws, p. 229

Japanese POW camps
Tojo's orders regarding POWs was very clear. Guards must supervise their
charges rigidly, taking care not to become obsessed with mistaken ideas of
humanitarianism or swayed by personal feelings toward prisoners that might
grow over a long incarceration. (50) Rarely did top government officials
visit any Japanese prison camps. Therefore, the local commanders could do as
they wished without reprimand. However, considering the indoctrination of
Japanese troops, reprimand was highly unlikely. If the commander wished, he
could make anything, even whistling, a crime and inflict any type of
punishment, including execution. (51)



Death of a POW.

Australian War Memorial, From: Daws, p. 236
The Geneva Convention stated that if a prisoner escaped and was recaptured,
he was not to be punished. However, the Japanese did not care. The POWs were
forced to sign non-escape oaths soon after they reached the POW camps. They
signed at the advice of their officers with the secret understanding that
the oaths were not morally binding. Escapes were rare. Any re-captured
escapees were executed. Not only were they killed in front of the other
POWs, but ten additional POWs were executed as 

[CTRL] The McGuckin Family Of Idaho - The Real Story

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 http://www.sightings.com/general10/real.htm
The McGuckin Family Of
Idaho - The Real Story
From Rayelan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rumor Mill News
http://www.rumormillnews.com
6-3-1

The bulk of this release has been composed over the last two days. As you
will see, it is our contention that this is a land grab, and the the
children and the international media attention got in the way.

Well, we just moments ago learned that we were more right than we thought
and certain members of Bonner County government are intimately involved in
the foreclosure, seizure and disposal of the McGuckin property to pave the
way for a real estate development.

Apparently, the McGuckins, who the media reported had no water, are sitting
on the best source of clean water in the area and that source is sufficient
enough supply several sites with water. We will not comment further on this
aspect of the story until we have more information. But, what we will be
reporting soon is the real story here and it may be explosive enough to
really damage some very big players in Bonner County government.

Stay tuned,
Rayelan




The McGuckin Story

By Don Harkins








The McGuckin story, which, as I will explain, epitomizes both the arrogance
of county government and the power of network dominant media. The story,
which on the surface seems like a simple state-
concern-for-the-welfare-of-children case, is incredibly complex. I believe
that it boils down to a four (or more) year persecution of an unfortunate
family that has a really neat, and possibly strategic, 40- acre piece of
property with a pristine lake. This entire travesty would never have made
more than a few lines of the local evening news if it had not been for one
thing: The McGuckin children sicced their dogs on the authorities and made
a stand.

Since the Idaho Observer keeps its office within 17 miles of the standoff
and, since no other media in the area has the editorial license to tell the
truth and, since millions of people all over the world are fixated on
understanding the truth behind this surreal scenario, I will place things
into proper perspective. My wife Ingri and I were able to gain the proper
perspective by riding with Joann McGuckin's (former) attorney Edgar Steele
while he delivered a letter that withdrew his representation from this case
and when we discovered that a bond reduction hearing that had been scheduled
for 4 p.m. had been postponed until Monday, June 4, 2001 amid strange
circumstances.

Rather than turn this into a series of newsstories, this is just going to be
Don talking. There will be a mixture of facts that can be verified by
documentation and my own interpretation of events based upon my knowledge of
the characters involved and other stories that I have covered which are
connected or related. I will, however, break each segment down under a
headline to make things easier to explain.

To fully understand the McGuckin story, it would be best to obtain copies of
the November and May editions of The Idaho Observer wherein we reported the
christening of the Cutthroat (a 110 foot unmanned submarine that is now
being used for research in Lake Pend Oreille) and the Parkison story wherein
another Bonner county family was squeezed for several years until they lost
their property. I also suggest that you obtain a copy of the September, 2000
edition of The Spectrum newspaper (1-877-280-2866) wherein some interesting
clues regarding this region's importance to sophisticated technology
research are found.

It appears that the veneer of propriety on the part of the state is
extremely thin in this case. Now that the standoff has ended, it will be a
matter of simple investigation to prove that the McGuckin's land was stolen
from them illegally and that the charges of child neglect alleged by Bonner
County Prosecutor Phil Robinson were fabrications that are not supported by
evidence.

Breaking News - The standoff has ended

By the evening of June 2, 2001, the standoff ended peacefully and the five
remaining children have been taken to Bonner General Hospital where they
were to spend the night. Three persons, including a family friend and
neighbor whom the children trusted, made contact with the children and it
was that contact which ultimately led to their decision to come out. Bonner
County Sheriff Phil Jarvis claims that he sent word to the children that
they would not be separated if he has anything to say about it. The three
mediators also gave the kids a note from their mother in jail. It is
reported that the note allegedly from mom was what compelled them to go with
authorities. Jarvis' promise that they would not be separated may not be
his to keep as the children are now in thecustody of state child welfare
workers who have made no such promises to the children.

By all reports the children were all in fine shape physically and mentally
were in good spirits when they left their home. The children were taken to
the hospital where they would all be given 

[CTRL] Six Of Safest US Cities Are In One County - Why

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 http://www.sightings.com/general10/safest.htm
Six Of Safest US Cities Are
In One County - Why?
By Neal Boortz
Reprinted by permission of NewsMax.com
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/5/31/114617.shtml
6-1-1

According to recent FBI crime statistics, six of the nation's 25 safest
cities are located in one county. That would be Orange County in California.
Political types like to say that this is because there's a high employment
rate.

Yeah, employment. What they don't want to tell you is that Orange County is
one of the few places in California where you can actually get a permit to
use a firearm to protect yourself. Go north, to Los Angeles. There you'll
see that the crime rate is going up by almost 8 percent in the last year.
Try to get a permit to carry a concealed weapon in L.A. Right - only if
you're a celebrity.

We know that armed victims are at the top of the fear list with predators.
Travel across the Orange County line into L.A. County and the chances of
finding an armed victim go down. Simple as that.

Another Life Saved by an Evil, Evil Gun

Click on the link below and you'll see the headline Tennessee man shot to
death at truck stop. It doesn't tell the entire story. A more appropriate
headline would be Murdering scumbag gets what he deserves.

On Monday, 38-year-old Alisha Cox of Nashville was at home with her mother.
Someone broke into the home. It was Cox's former boyfriend. He was armed
with a gun. He shot Cox's mother to death and dragged Cox out of the house.
He put her in his truck, tied her up, and drove off.

They stopped at a truck stop in Whitfield County to pick up food and drinks.
Alisha Cox freed herself from her bonds, found her kidnapper's pistol, and
got out of the truck.

The kidnapper confronted her and made an aggressive move. Cox chased the man
across the parking lot with his gun. She shot the S.O.B. in the side of the
head. Then, when he hit the ground, witnesses say she shot him twice in the
back for good measure.

Police say Cox acted in self-defense. Charges are pending.

Would Alisha Cox have sent her kidnapper running for his life at that truck
stop if she hadn't been armed? Would she have succeeded in escaping from the
man who'd killed her mother earlier in the day? Would anyone have come to
her aid in time? Alisha Cox didn't know where she would end up. She knew she
had to act. With that gun in her hand, she gained her freedom - and removed
another predator from the gene pool.

Where would Alisha Cox be today if she hadn't been armed with her
kidnapper's gun?

(http://www.accessatlanta.com/partners/ajc/newsatlanta/0529dalton.html)

Freedom or Security?

Are you willing to allow the Imperial Federal Government to peer through
your clothing to scan you for weapons?

Sources at the National Institute of Standards and Technology say that by
the end of the year, they hope to have a working prototype of a device that
uses electromagnetic waves to look through clothing and detect concealed
weapons - guns, knives, maybe even plastic explosives. The device would be
effective at distances of up to 50 feet. The device's creators envision
mounting it on police vehicles driven through unruly crowds to spot
individuals with weapons.

There's also research in the works to create a similar device that could
peer through walls.

Does anyone else see how dangerous this new technology could be? Your
privacy will disappear. Your Fourth Amendment rights will be trampled on,
all in the name of safer streets and the battle against domestic terrorism.

It sounds nice for law enforcement officials to insist that they'll only use
it in a manner consistent with the Constitution. But we all know those
promises are worthless when it comes to a government that's engaged in an
insane war on drugs - not to mention a covert, but no less insane, war on
your right to own firearms.

How much of your privacy are you willing to give up in the name of security?

Hitlary Clinton: Attack Dog

It's taken just five months, but Hillary Clinton, the junior senator from
New York, is now the Democratic Party's top attack dog. She's opposed just
about every proposal the Bush administration has made - everything from tax
cuts to environmental regulations.

Case in point: A news conference last week. The news conference was called
so that Senate Democrats could bash Bush some more over his budget and
tax-cut plan. The New York Post reports that five senators participated.
Four of those senators possessed experience ranging from 12 to 24 years.

The fifth senator? Hillary Clinton, in her first Senate term with just five
months under her belt. She's just 97th in Seniority - but she's right up
there in the top five when it comes to camera face planting and attacking
George W. Bush.

She can deny it until she's blue in the face, but Hillary Clinton wants to
be president of the United States. Playing Senate attack dog is a good way
to get that all-important face time on television and raise your 

[CTRL] Molecular Expressions Science, Optics and You - Powers Of 10 Interactive Java T

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http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/primer/java/scienceopticsu/powersof10/index.html

Powers of Ten
View the Milky Way at 10 million light years from the Earth. Then move
through space towards the Earth in successive orders of magnitude until you
reach a tall oak tree just outside the buildings of the National High
Magnetic Field Laboratory in Tallahassee, Florida. After that, begin to move
from the actual size of a leaf into a microscopic world that reveals leaf
cell walls, the cell nucleus, chromatin, DNA and finally, into the subatomic
universe of electrons and protons.



 Molecular Expressions Science, Optics and You - Powers Of 10 Interactive Java Tutorial.url

[CTRL] Breast Cancer Said Caused By Antiperspirants (2)

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 http://www.sightings.com/general10/pits.htm
Breast Cancer Said Caused
By Antiperspirants
Elizabeth Morin
Dept. of Medicinal Chemistry
Merck Frosst Canada  Co.
514 428-3222
6-1-01

I'm forwarding this to everyone I know because it makes so much sense.
Please forward it to everyone you care about and even those you don't.

Ladies - some awareness! Gentlemen - pass on to the ladies in your life!

Please read this... very important...

Some time ago, I attended a Breast Cancer Awareness seminar put on by Terry
Birk with support from Dan Sullivan. During the QA period, I asked why the
most common area for Breast Cancer was near the arm pit. My question could
not be answered at that time.

This email was just sent to me, and I find it interesting that my question
has been answered. I challenge you all to re-think your every day use of a
product that could ultimately lead to a terminal illness. As of today, I
will change my use.

A friend forwarded this to me. I showed it to a friend going through
chemotherapy and she said she learned this fact in a support group recently.
I wish I had known it 14 years ago. ___

I just got information from a health seminar that I would like to share...

The leading cause of breast cancer is the use of antiperspirant.

What?

A concentration of toxins leads to cell mutations: a.k.a. CANCER.

Yes, ANTI-PERSPIRANT.

Most of the products out there are an anti-perspirant/deodorant combination,
so go home and check. Deodorant is fine, anti-perspirant is not. Here's why:

The human body has a few areas that it uses to purge toxins; behind the
knees, behind the ears, groin area, and armpits. The toxins are purged in
the form of perspiration.

Anti-perspirant, as the name clearly indicates, prevents you from
perspiring, thereby inhibiting the body from purging toxins from below the
armpits.

These toxins do not just magically disappear. Instead, the body deposits
them in the lymph nodes below the arms since cannot sweat them out.

Nearly all breast cancer tumors occur in the upper outside quadrant of the
breast area. This is precisely where the lymph nodes are located.

Additionally, Men are less likely (but not completely exempt) to develop
breast cancer prompted by antiperspirant usage because most of the
antiperspirant product is caught in their hair and is not directly applied
to the skin. Women who apply antiperspirant right after shaving increase the
risk further be! cause shaving causes almost imperceptible nicks in the skin
which give the chemicals entrance into the body from the armpit area.

PLEASE pass this along to anyone you care about. Breast cancer is becoming
frighteningly common.

This awareness may save lives. If you are skeptical about these findings, I
urge you to do some research for yourself.

You will arrive at the same conclusions, I assure you.


 Breast Cancer Said Caused By Antiperspirants (2).url

[CTRL] Clinton Got Frisky With Teenage Girl on Oslo Tour

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 http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2001/5/27/94414
Clinton Got Frisky With Teenage Girl on Oslo Tour

While on a speaking tour of Scandanavia two weeks ago, disgraced
ex-president Bill Clinton engaged in suggestive behavior with an attractive
Norwegian teenage girl, embracing her while witnesses looked on and hinting
he'd like to have sex.

In a gesture of hospitality, the 19-year-old coed had presented Clinton with
a tulip, at which point he reportedly responded by putting his arms around
her. But then the sex-addicted former leader told the girl he'd like to do
more.

You're too beautiful to only get a hug, Clinton blurted out, in an episode
reported in today's London Sunday Times.

Clinton made the unpresidential comment to the teenager at an Oslo TGI
Fridays while out on the town with a group of college students.

The incident has prompted concerns that the former president, who was
impeached after his sexual relationship with Monica Lewinsky came to light,
has resumed his old habit of seeking sex from young women.

Anybody who thinks he has changed is fooling himself, observed British
columnist Andrew Sullivan, who first reported the ex-president's encounter
with the Oslo teen.

Clinton is once again a sex scandal waiting to happen, Sullivan added.
And the scariest thing is that he barely knows it.

If Sullivan's prediction pans out, it could severely impact the political
career of his wife, New York Senator Hillary Clinton, who has apparently
done nothing to curb her husband's wayward behavior.

At 22, Lewinsky herself was just barely out of her teens when Clinton
ushered her into the Oval Office for sessions of oral sex.

But stories of Clinton's sexcapades with young and even underage woman are
legion in Arkansas.

During the Paula Jones case, in which he was accused of exposing himself to
a then-24-year-old state employee, several women who were just high school
students when they met then-Governor Clinton told investigators of being
groped and fondled during random encounters, with at least one reportedly
claiming that Clinton had seduced her.

None were willing to go public with their accounts.

But according to Jane Parks, who was landlord to Clinton's brother Roger in
the mid-1980s, high school girls -- some under the age of consent -- were
regular guests at sex and drug parties that the governor himself regularly
attended.

 NewsMax.com Inside Cover Story.url

[CTRL] Chinese woman refusing sterilization beaten to death relatives

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http://english.hk.dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/asia/afp/article.html?s=hke/
headlines/010519/asia/afp/Chinese_woman_refusing_sterilization_beaten_to_dea
th__relatives.html

Chinese woman refusing sterilization beaten to death: relatives
BEIJING, May 19 (AFP) -
A 34-year-old woman in southeast China's Fujian province was beaten to death
by birth-control officials who wanted to sterilize her against her will, her
relatives said on Saturday.

Sun Zhonghua, from a farming family in Xiapu county near the provincial
capital of Fuzhou, was taken away by birth-control officials from her home
by daybreak on Wednesday, a relative told AFP by telephone.

The officials told Sun, the mother of two boys aged 12 and 13, that she was
to be taken to the birth-control clinic for sterilization, a procedure they
had previously been pressing her to submit herself to.

She refused vehemently, showing documents obtained from a local hospital in
April that the planned operation was not advisable because of a medical
condition.

Despite her and her relatives' protests, she was forced into a waiting car
and driven away.

In the afternoon of the same day, officials informed Sun's relatives that
she had died after jumping from the fourth floor of the building housing the
local birth-control administration.

Family members who were allowed to see her body discovered large bruises to
her head and different parts of her body.

There is no way she could have received those injuries from jumping to her
death, said the relative.

During the anxious hours on Wednesday while Sun's relatives were waiting for
news about her, they went to the police to report the birth-control
officials' violent manner when taking her from her home.

But they were given the rounds by a string of police officials, who appeared
unwilling to get involved in the case.

We tried to report the incident, but there was no one to report to, said
the relative.

Already being the mother of two, Sun understood that she had to conform with
national population policies and had no plans of giving birth to more
children, her family said.

She had gone to the hospital every year since 1992 to make sure she was not
pregnant, they said.

China's controversial one child policy continues to result in serious
human rights violations 20 years after it became law.

In the early years, the world was shocked by mass campaigns to round up
women and sterilize them almost like cattle.

Such public campaigns are rare now, but the policy is being enforced in ways
that many human rights groups say are equally unjust.

Pressure on China's army of family planning workers to meet the birth quota
in their jurisdiction have led to widespread excesses.

Family planning workers and local officials resort to beating people,
locking them up illegally, confiscating livestock and destroying their
homes.

Despite the harsh measures, births are still growing at an annual rate of 10
million and the government has vowed to continue the policy to cap the
population at 1.6 billion by the year 2050.

China's population now stands at nearly 1.3 billion, the largest in the
world. Beijing credits the policy for helping the country avoid 300 million
births.

 Chinese woman refusing sterilization beaten to death relatives.url

[CTRL] IRS slapped withbr $500 billion suit

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 http://www.wnd.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=22834
IRS slapped with
$500 billion suit
2 groups charge civil rights
violations in raid









© 2001 WorldNetDaily.com

Two national groups providing estate-planning help announced today the
filing of a $500 billion class-action lawsuit against the Internal Revenue
Service and approximately 50 individual IRS agents, charging them with civil
rights violations against thousands of its members, most of whom are senior
citizens.

The suit stems from a raid on the offices of Heritage America and the Aegis
Company conducted by the IRS March 31, 2000, says the groups' executive
director, Michael Vallone. About 30 armed IRS agents reportedly entered the
Palos Hills, Ill., offices of the two groups.

The IRS agent in charge, Robert Kuschel, served a search warrant for a
company named Aegis Financial Group. The suit alleges this company has no
relationship whatsoever to either Heritage America or The Aegis Company.

Vallone claims that Aegis Financial Group was a corporation of which he was
a partial owner from 1996 to 1998, and that it was an Indiana licensed
mortgage brokerage firm which operated exclusively in Indiana and had no
business dealings whatsoever with Heritage America or the Aegis Company.

The suit alleges that upon entering the offices of the companies, the agents
proceeded at gunpoint to separate the staff into separate rooms and
interrogated them for as long as two hours without ever reading them their
rights or informing them they were not required to provide information.

The IRS then proceeded to carry off all the companies' records, including
the paper and computer records of their members, says the suit. This
material contained the names, addresses and phone numbers of all the past
and present members of Heritage America and the Aegis Company. It also
contained financial information and the private estate-planning information
of these people, including copies of their wills, trusts and other
estate-planning documents such as powers of attorney.

Their (the IRS') absolute rape of the privacy rights of more than 5,000
Americans … is another example of the terrorist tactics of a government
agency whose abuse of power demands severe retribution, said Vallone.

The suit also states that almost one year after the first raid, on March 29,
2001, the IRS performed a second raid in similar fashion on the offices of
Homer Richardson, a representative of Heritage America and the Aegis
Company. Once again, the search warrant served on Richardson stated it was
to procure documents associated with Aegis Financial Group. Richardson
states he has never had any association whatsoever with Aegis Financial
Group.

Vallone charges the attack on Heritage America and the Aegis Company is part
of a four-year campaign the IRS has been waging against trusts. Both
Heritage America and the Aegis Company have provided their members with
services to set up trusts for estate planning, business planning and tax
planning. The Aegis Company has provided educational material and services
for its members regarding a type of trust that IRS regulations call a
Business Trust.

These types of trusts are completely legitimate, says Vallone. They are
used by many of the major mutual funds in the United States, such as
Fidelity Magellan, Kemper and Nuveen. However, they can also be used by
small business owners. The IRS has recognized this in their own regulations.
Unfortunately, many companies have improperly promoted the use of business
trusts, and so the IRS has stepped in to crack down on the abuse of these
trusts.

The class-action lawsuit contains 11 separate counts of violations of Title
42 of the United States Code for deprivation of civil rights, and an
additional count under Title 18 which charges that the IRS and its agents
violated federal racketeering laws.

The 56-page complaint was filed May 8 in the Southern District of Illinois.

 WorldNetDaily IRS slapped withbr $500 billion suit.url

[CTRL] 95 Percent Of US Doctors Have Seen Medical Errors

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-Caveat Lector-

 http://www.sightings.com/general10/95.htm
95 Percent Of US Doctors
Have Seen Medical Errors
By Will Dunham
5-9-1

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Some 95 percent of doctors say they personally have
witnessed a serious medical error, according to a survey on quality in the
U.S. health care industry released on Tuesday.

Six hundred doctors, 400 registered nurses and 200 senior-level hospital
executives were questioned in the survey released by the Robert Wood Johnson
Foundation, which sponsors health care research.

Asked whether they had seen ``major quality of care or medical mistakes,'' 4
percent of doctors said they had witnessed them frequently, 27 percent said
occasionally and 64 percent said infrequently. The survey did not define
specifically what entailed a major mistake.

Among the nurses asked the same question, 89 percent said they had witnessed
a mistake, with 71 percent saying it was infrequent, 15 percent occasional
and 3 percent frequent. Some 82 percent of hospital executives also said
they had seen a major medical mistake (1 percent frequent, 13 percent
occasional and 67 percent infrequent).

Experts said in a 1999 report that medical errors kill between 44,000 and
98,000 people annually, with up to 7,000 of those deaths resulting from
mistakes in prescribing or dispensing drugs.

Those questioned in the survey generally gave high marks to quality of the
U.S. health care system in terms of safety, effectiveness, timeliness and
other measures. Some 80 percent said it was either very good or excellent
(42 percent) or good (38 percent), while 18 percent rated it fair and 2
percent rated it poor.

``The quality-of-care problems in American medicine are rooted in the
culture of medicine, which has emphasized individual performances over teams
and systems; in the structure and infrastructure of our organizations and
institutions; and in our payment systems, which do not promote quality
care,'' Lewis Sandy, executive vice president of the Robert Wood Johnson
Foundation, said during a news conference.

``To many observers of the health care system, and to many within it, these
problems are so complicated that they seem able to thwart every effort to
significantly improve the quality of care.''

The survey, conducted by polling firm Wirthlin Worldwide, had a margin of
error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.

In conjunction with the release of the survey, the foundation announced the
launch of a $20.9 million initiative in which six hospitals and doctors'
organizations will be given grants of up to $3 million to perform work aimed
at improving the quality of health care in America.



Most Doctors And Nurses Say They've Witnessed Mistakes
By Todd Zwillich
5-9-1

WASHINGTON (Reuters Health) - The vast majority of doctors and nurses say
they have personally witnessed a ``serious'' medical mistake, according to a
national survey released on Tuesday by the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation.

More than 70% of healthcare professionals, including doctors, nurses and
hospital executives, believe that fundamental changes to the American
healthcare system are needed in order to improve the quality of care they
deliver to patients. Another 11% of respondents in the survey said that the
system's quality flaws are so deep that a complete overhaul is needed to
remedy them.

``Healthcare is in trouble. The quality is not what we need it to be and
people in healthcare know that,'' said Dr. Donald M. Berwick, the president
of the Institute for Healthcare Improvement, an organization that is
cooperating with the foundation to promote better quality.

According to the survey, 95% of doctors and 89% of nurses have witnessed a
serious medical error.

Lapses in the healthcare system reached national attention in November 1999
when the Institute of Medicine (IOM) released a report blaming medical
errors for up to 98,000 deaths per year. Another IOM report early this year
called for sweeping changes to the US healthcare system, from the way
researchers conduct and report clinical trials to the way healthcare
providers monitor the quality of their own care.

Researchers conducted the survey among 600 doctors, 400 nurses, and 200
top-level hospital executives from around the nation. The survey defined
quality healthcare as care that is safe, effective, timely,
patient-centered, efficient and equitable.

Based on those criteria, 58% of those asked said that the quality of the US
healthcare system is good or fair, with 2% saying it is poor. Forty-two
percent said that the system had very good or excellent quality.

``In almost any industry, this lukewarm self-assessment would be seen as a
sign of serious shortcomings,'' said David Richardson, the executive vice
president of Wirthin Worldwide, a New York-based research firm that
conducted the survey for The Robert Wood Johnson Foundation.

The foundation used the survey to draw attention to a $21 million initiative
it is starting along with the Institute for 

[CTRL] Grade School puts the Kibosh on Mothers Day

[tnohava]

 http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,23857,00.html
NY Grade School puts the Kibosh on Mothers Day

Tuesday, May 08, 2001
Andrea Peyser

NEW YORK — Parents whose kids attend a pricey Manhattan private school are
in an uproar over a new policy aimed at protecting the feelings of children
raised by same-sex couples: Mother's Day has been banned.


And in the interest of fairness, Father's Day, too.

Students at Rodeph Sholom Day School on the Upper West Side, where tennis
legend John McEnroe sends his children, came home Friday with an unusual
note tucked into their book bags.

I am writing this letter to inform you that after much thought and
discussion this past year, we will not be celebrating Mother's Day and
Father's Day, began the letter written by Cindi Samson, director of the
school's lower elementary division.

At this time, these holidays are not needed to enhance our writing and arts
programs, the letter continued. Second, families in our society are now
diverse and varied.

We are a school with many different family makeups, and we need to
recognize the emotional well-being of all the children in our school.
Holidays that serve no educational purpose and are not vital to the
children's education need to be evaluated in terms of their importance in a
school setting, as the recognition of these holidays in a social setting may
not be a positive experience for all children.

When did the biblical commandment - Honor thy father and thy mother -
become a threat to children's emotional well-being?

Said one outraged mother: There are ways of showing sensitivity to the
needs of children in unusual situations that don't require undermining
traditional family structures.

This is an inappropriate and politically correct response, said the mom,
who asked not to be identified.

Rodeph Sholom, affiliated with a Reform Jewish synagogue, educates kids from
age 2 through sixth grade. Tuition runs around $15,000 a year for
pre-kindergarten, and just under $20,000 for grade 6.

The bans affect kids ages 4 and older; younger kids apparently are still
permitted to celebrate Mother's Day, which is this coming Sunday. And
Father's Day, which is June 17.

How did a seemingly innocent celebration become dangerous? Parents told me
the school observes most Jewish and American holidays, such as Thanksgiving,
by engaging children in art projects.

Last Mother's Day, kids made cards for their mommies. For Father's Day, they
decorated soup cans for their dads to use as pen holders.

That ended last week, a parent said, when a man - who adopted his son with a
male partner - boasted that he had persuaded administrators to remove
Mother's Day from the school's holiday list.

Reached at school yesterday, Samson said the decision to cancel was not
based on a single case.

The reasoning was several-fold, Samson said. One is, it didn't serve an
academic and educational need. Number two, families are changing. Some
children were very uncomfortable.

She pointed out that some kids have one parent. Or, There may be two
fathers, two mothers, the mother may not have custody, it could be a
grandmother.

The school's headmaster, Irwin Schlachter, did not return a call.

One disappointed mother found the ban puzzling.

I thought it was sweet that they spend some time thinking about their
parents, making a little art project, said the mom, who suggested that kids
without moms or dads make gifts for their grandparents.

Like most parents I interviewed, she feared speaking out would adversely
affect her child, and asked not to be identified.

I'm not sure what's more fuzzy-headed: preventing kids from honoring their
parents or believing that banning a celebration will somehow help kids who
are not part of traditional families.

Kids don't live in a bubble. Not even on the Upper West Side.

 FOXNews.com.url

Re: [CTRL] FBI knowingly let innocent man go to prison for 30 years

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-Caveat Lector-

Nothing would give me more joy than to see these FBI agents living and
involved, prosecuted and incarcerated with lengthily sentences. Any
financial gain Salvati would be rewarded for 30 years of his life would not
be enough. Just another reason never to put all your faith in a cop.





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 FBI knowingly let innocent man go to prison for 30 years
 --
 Some members of the House Government Reform Committee
 reportedly wept as they heard testimony from Joe Salvati,
 who spent 30 years in prison for a crime the FBI knew
 he did not commit. Federal agents let Salvati take the fall
 rather then reveal informants' identities. (05/04/01)
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[CTRL] FOXNews.com

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 http://foxnews.com/story/0,2933,19857,00.html
Professor Cites Evidence That Guns Stop Crimes






Wednesday, May 02, 2001
Kris Osborn


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When Thomas Shim moved to Augusta, Ga., and opened up a small convenience
store more than four years ago, he planned to build his business peacefully.


But that plan was abruptly shattered by violence when he was robbed at
gunpoint in his store. His wife Yougim was shot and wounded in the robbery.

Fed up and scared, Shim bought a .38-caliber pistol for protection.

That decision that may have saved his life, because in July of 1999, Shim's
store was robbed at gunpoint once again. Fearing for his life, Mr. Shim shot
and killed the armed robber, a career criminal named Anthony Boyd.

If I didn't have a gun I would have been killed, Shim told Fox News. I
grabbed my gun, clicked it ... and shot him. At that moment, I had to
survive.

Shim's story is one of many cited in research by Yale University Professor
John R. Lott Jr., author of More Guns, Less Crime.

Lott says his research shows that guns used defensively stop about 2 million
crimes a year, five times the amount of crimes in which guns are used.

No one has found bad effects resulting from right-to-carry laws, Lott
said, citing instances in which the mere presence of a gun played a key role
in preventing crimes.

When guns are used defensively, most of those times, the gun is not fired,
said University of Georgia Professor David Mustard, who collaborated with
Lott.

Lott says most media reports ignore the life-saving aspects of guns. In his
research, he compiles instances across the country where the simple
brandishing of a gun prevented crime.

But not everyone agrees. The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, which advocates
the banning of handguns and assault weapons, cites different statistics and
says Lott's findings are incorrect.

Its a myth to believe that people carrying guns creates a safer society,
said spokesman Mike Beard. If you look at the FBI uniform crime reports,
they show that gun deaths are the highest in the areas of the country that
have the highest gun ownership.

But Lott stands by his reasearch, telling Fox News: The vast majority of
academics who have looked at this issue have found results similar to what I
have found.

Arguments in the statistical war will continue to be shot back and forth,
but as far as Thomas Shim is concerned, the matter has been decided.

As long as I have a gun, I feel better,  he said.


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[CTRL] Democratic strategist Beckel driven into protective custody

[tnohava]

 http://drudgereport.com/cost.htm
X DRUDGE REPORT X WED MAY 02, 2001 09:37:28 ET X

NEW BOOK GOES BEHIND-THE-SCENES OF U.S. ELECTION MESS

**EXCLUSIVE**

Vice President Al Gore's lawyers high-fived each other after disqualifying
more than 1,000 military ballots from overseas on trumped-up
hypertechnicalities during the Florida recount, a new book reveals.

Here comes the book of books on the Florida election standoff: At Any Cost:
How Al Gore Tried to Steal the Election, by Bill Sammon, Senior White House
Correspondent for the WASHINGTON TIMES.

A win's a win, crowed one of Gore's lawyers after tossing out the ballot
of Navy Lieutenant John Russell, who at that moment was off the coast of
Yemen, where he had just finished rescuing the USS Cole in the wake of a
deadly terrorist attack.

Sammon tracked Russell down for the officer's first ever interview.

I was hot, Russell said. Here I am, deployed overseas. I've done
everything I can to cast my ballot properly. And I find out my vote doesn't
count because of a lousy postmark ­ even though they received it before
Election Day. Oh, I was torqued.

Sammon, who spent 18 months covering the Gore campaign and all 36 days of
the post-election debacle in Florida, has inked a blow-by-blow of the
historic standoff.

The DRUDGE REPORT has secured the first advance copy.

Sammon reveals how Republicans got their hands on the Gore team's secret
memo detailing how to disqualify military ballots.

Sammon also gets Democratic strategist Bob Beckel to describe, for the first
time, how his quest to flip Bush electors unleashed a backlash of public
outrage that frightened him and his family.

MORE

Beckel told the author:

It got nasty, I tell you. I got 15,000 faxes, 10,000 letters, 2,000 phone
calls, 132 death threats. They picked up a guy in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania
with my picture and a bullet hole through it ­ with a gun. So it was just
brutal. They got into my garage at my office and wrote 'You're dead.' I had
to go into protective custody.

Sammon secured exclusive interviews with Bush and Cheney, asking them to
describe their darkest moments during the 36-day standoff.

AT ANY COST is set for release next week; it ranked #4011 on AMAZON.COM's
sales list early Wednesday.

---
Filed By Matt Drudge
Reports are moved when circumstances warrant
http://www.drudgereport.com for updates
(c)DRUDGE REPORT 2001
Not for reproduction without permission of the author

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[CTRL] Sale of widow's house causes uproar

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http://www.wnd.com/frame/direct.asp?SITE=www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/fron
t/897924
May 2, 2001, 11:32PM

Sale of widow's home causes outrage
Homeowners' group tried to buy property
By S.K. BARDWELL and ERIC BERGER
Copyright 2001 Houston Chronicle

While public officials are outraged over the sale of an elderly widow's home
because of unpaid property-owner association dues, information from a Harris
County official shows the homeowners' group tried to buy the house at an
auction.

Champions Community Improvement Association called for the auction of
82-year-old Wenonah Blevins' $150,000 home in Champions subdivision in March
because she had failed to pay two years of homeowner fees totaling $814.50.

An e-mail from Constable Ron Hickman to county Tax Assessor-Collector Paul
Bettencourt detailed the March 6 sale and the three offers by two bidders.
The association bid $4,200. The home was sold for $5,000 to Daniel Hilal,
who initially bid the minimum $499.

Blevins, however, said she didn't know the association had initiated the
foreclosure proceedings.

She said she put a check for the overdue maintenance fees in the homeowners'
association mail slot last August and didn't know it wasn't cashed.

Attorney Marian S. Rosen, who represents Blevins, said her client had
pneumonia at some time during the two years and may have neglected to pay
some of her required fees.

She also may have mistaken correspondence from the association for junk mail
because it was addressed to Mr. W.L. Blevins, Rosen said.

Bob Cheaney, the association's accountant, said the group sends certified
letters, and that Blevins' check was returned to her by registered mail.

The check was returned, Rosen said, because legal proceedings had already
been initiated against Blevins. She said Blevins has no record that she
received the returned check.

But Cheaney said, At that point in time, it was not in the courts. It was
in the preliminary stages. (Her check) was returned because it was not full
payment.

Blevins, who has no living family, now resides with a friend. Her only
companion, a house cat, is living with her neighbor. She had paid for the
house, where she lived alone for the past 15 years.

A court hearing is set for May 18 on Blevins' suit to prevent the sale of
the contents taken from her house, which are now in a storage facility.
Blevins also wants the court to void the sale of her house and return it to
her.

The auction has outraged local and state politicians, including legislators
who scurried to pass laws to prevent such proceedings.

It was an unconscionably stupid thing to do, said Bettencourt, adding that
foreclosure should be used only as a last resort.

They kicked an 82-year-old woman out of her home over 800 bucks, which is
absolutely asinine, he said.

Al Brooks, association president, said he could not comment on the sale
pending the outcome of Blevins' lawsuit.

The association did not bid on the home on Blevins' behalf, Rosen said.

Upon Bettencourt's request, the county attorney's office agreed to look into
the association's actions and study the matter to determine if the office
has jurisdiction.

Bettencourt was not the association's only critic Wednesday.

We have received at least 30 calls this morning, calling us Gestapo and
Hitler, Cheaney said.

There's no way we can put a good spin on this; it's a horrible story. We
never, ever wanted to sell property out from under someone just because of
maintenance fees.

In Austin, meanwhile, two area GOP legislators -- Sen. Jon Lindsay and Rep.
Peggy Hamric -- began applying pressure on the homeowners' association.

This is simply unfair, Lindsay said.

As early as today, he is expected to introduce a bill that would force a
homeowners' association that auctions a foreclosed home to pay the original
owner the difference between the home's appraised value and the auction
price. In Blevins' case, she would be paid $145,000.

But Lindsay admits it will be difficult to pass the bill in this legislative
session with less than four weeks remaining.

Lindsay and Hamric also plan to add a pair of amendments to legislation
relating to homeowners' associations.

One amendment would make the rules by which an association could auction a
foreclosed home similar to those followed by taxing entities, including
cities, counties and school districts. Such entities must allow an original
homeowner to repurchase a foreclosed homestead within one year of the
auction for the sale price plus 25 percent.

The second amendment would require an association board member to visit a
homeowner against whom the board is considering action. The board member
would have to clearly explain the ramifications of not paying association
fees, Lindsay said.

In a related development, Bettencourt said he plans to investigate the
unpaid taxes on many of the 200 properties owned by Hilal of First Capital
Interests, which purchased Blevins' house. Hilal, who has not returned phone
calls, owes 

[CTRL] Was Chinese ship preparing nuke test

[tnohava]

 http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=22648
Was Chinese ship preparing nuke test?
Surveillance of destroyer's activity possibly sparked EP-3 incident





By Jon Dougherty
© 2001 WorldNetDaily.com

The April 1 incident between a U.S. Navy EP-3 surveillance plane and a pair
of aggressive Chinese fighters may have occurred because a Chinese warship
was preparing to test a nuclear-capable anti-ship missile, sources have told
WorldNetDaily.

According to intelligence and military sources, one of a pair of new
Russian-built Sovremenny class destroyers China bought in 1999 was preparing
to conduct a sea test of a nuclear device, probably one that could be
carried on an anti-ship missile, one source, who requested anonymity, said.


One of two Chinese Russian-built Sovremenny class destroyers.

The report, which was confirmed by other well-placed military sources, said
the EP-3 surveillance flight may have been in the area to monitor the test.
The presence of the U.S. plane is said to have caused substantial unease
among Chinese military officials preparing the test, which may explain the
aggressiveness of two Chinese F-8 fighters sent up to shadow the American
plane.

We were reading their tactical mail, so they decided to bash the postman,
one source said.

One Chinese fighter clipped the EP-3 in midair while making a high-speed
pass. The collision caused enough damage to the Navy plane that it was
forced to declare a Mayday and land. The Chinese fighter crashed; Beijing
has said its pilot was killed.

WND, quoting foreign sources, reported April 4 that the remaining Chinese
fighter fired its weapons at the EP-3 following the collision, preventing it
from fleeing the area and forcing it to land at China's Hainan Island
airbase, where the plane remains, though a U.S. inspection team arrived
there yesterday to examine it.

The aircraft's 24-member crew was held by Chinese authorities for 11 days.
They were released April 12 after the U.S. ambassador to China presented a
carefully worded letter to Beijing.

The Pentagon has not confirmed that the Navy plane was fired on, but
officials have acknowledged that they were aware of those reports.

Richard Fisher, a China weapons analyst with The Jamestown Foundation, told
WND that the SS-N-22 Sunburn Moskit anti-ship missiles included in the
Sovremenny destroyer deal with Russia are capable of carrying nuclear
payloads.

While not able to comment directly on the report that China may have been
testing a nuclear device on or about April 1, Fisher said Russia initially
designed the Sunburns to carry nuclear warheads.

When they entered service, the Moskit was assumed to be nuclear-armed, or
at least some of them were, Fisher said. It is reported that the Moskit
was designed to carry a small nuclear warhead.


Yakhont anti-ship missile in flight.

Fisher said he did not know whether a new Russian-built missile, the
Yakhont, which is smaller, was nuclear-capable, but said it was possible it
could carry a smaller nuclear warhead.

The Yakhont is also a supersonic anti-ship weapon. Russia, which began using
it in the mid-1990s, says it is incapable of being destroyed by current
shipboard anti-missile defenses, including Aegis systems aboard U.S.
warships.

Military officials claim it is impervious to guidance jamming and is a fire
and forget weapon.

Reports have said that China is interested in buying up to four more
Sovremenny-class destroyers to augment the existing warships in its fleet
and that they may be equipped with the Yakhont.

The Sovremennys give the Chinese navy a punch it has been lacking, noted
Robert Karniol, Asia-Pacific editor of Jane's Defense Weekly.

WND reported April 6 that part of the EP-3's mission could have been to
monitor Chinese submarines also in the area. Many of China's most modern
submarines operate out of bases on Hainan Island.

 WorldNetDaily Was Chinese ship preparing nuke test.url

[CTRL] Mike's List ISSUE 17 APRIL 12, 2001

[tnohava]

 http://www.mikeslist.com/current.htm
CNN Scoops Fox, MSNBC

IF YOU SAW LIVE FOOTAGE of the 24 U.S. Navy crewmembers boarding their 737
to Guam in Hainan last night, then you were watching CNN, which was the only
network to film the event. I saw the footage, and was struck by how, well,
Internet-like the quality was. The video was jerky and grainy, just like
low-bandwidth streaming video on the web.

It turns out, CNN used a cheap satellite phone to transmit the picture,
according to the Washington Post.

Normally, news crews drive electronics-laden vans with giant satellite
dishes on top. That wasn't possible in Hainan because of location and tight
security, and most other networks apparently came to the conclusion that
live transmission was out of the question. CNN, however, kludged together a
low-tech solution that enabled them to use a standard camera and transmit
the feed with a cheap, commercially available satellite phone sold to
business people. They powered the whole thing with a car battery.

While filming the event, Chinese authorities arrested the CNN crew, and
they're still being held. Despite strong protests from CNN, the Chinese
military is likely dismantling the satellite phone to learn valuable
American broadcasting technology secrets.

 Mike's List ISSUE 17  APRIL 12, 2001.url

[CTRL] FW: SNET: Pass it on AMERICA!!

[tnohava]

Title: 



Take the POLL!!!
Are we Americans as dumb as we 
appear or is it just that we do notthink? While the Chinese held our 
plane and its crew hostage, (they arefree now, thank the Lord) 
presumably to get more time to inspect theplane, the media wrangled its 
hands and criticized the BushAdministrationfor perceived errors. 
Yet 70% of Americans believe that the tradingprivileges afforded to the 
Chinese should be suspended.Well, duh...why ---do you need the government to 
suspend tradingprivileges? DO IT YOURSELF!!!Simply look on the 
bottom of every product you buy, and it it says "MadeinChina" or "PRC" 
(and that includes Hong Kong), simply choose anotherproduct or none at 
all. You will be amazed at how dependent you are onChinese products, 
however you will be equally amazed at what you can dowithout. Who 
needs plastic eggs to celebrate Easter? If you must haveeggs benefit 
some American farmer.Easter is just an example, the point is...do not 
wait for the governmenttoact. Just go ahead and assume control on 
your own. If 200 MillionAmericans refuse to buy $20 each of Chinese 
goods, that a billion dollartrade imbalance resolved in our 
favor...fast!! The downside??Some American business will feel a 
temporary pinch from having foreignstockpiles of inventory. The 
solution, lets give them fair warning.So, we will not implement this UNTIL 
May 1, and we will continue it toJune1. That is only one month of 
trading losses, but it will hit theChinesefor l/12th of the total or 8% 
of their American exports.Then they will at least have to ask themselves if 
their arrogance andlawlessness were worth it.Remember, May 1 to June 
1.Send this to everybody you know.Show them we are Americans and 
NOBODY can take our people and hold them.Pass it on 
AMERICA!"Made In China" BOYCOTT - POLLShttp://www.madeinchinaboycott.com/polls.htmlFind and Support American BusinessThomas Register of American 
Manufacturershttp://www.thomasregister.com/U.S. Stuff- Product List and Index, Products Made in 
USAhttp://www.usstuff.com/prodlist.htmBuy American Onlinehttps://store.manufacturedinusa.com/cgi-bin/shop.storefrontAs you pass this on, pass on this suggestion also. If EVERY 
Americanwereto remain home from work for one day, the gas prices would 
come down.Themultinational corporations cannot afford to have the slaves 
at home andnot burning these profits at our expense. Send this suggestion to 
all onyour lists and lets see what kind of response can be created. We need 
toselect a day certain then go for it.

[CTRL] Tax Blast targets IRS forms

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-Caveat Lector-

www.detnews.com/2001/business/0104/18/e08d-213793.htm
Tax Blast targets IRS forms


By Associated Press

BANCROFT -- Dr. Carmen Steigman resents the $50,000 in taxes she has to
pay this year, so she took pleasure in firing a 5-inch bullet into an IRS
tax form this weekend.
   "Yes, it was kind of gratifying," said Steigman, a Farmington Hills
pathologist. "It was like, 'Here, Uncle Sam, this is for you.' "
   At the "Tax Blast" on a remote farm in Shiawassee County, Steigman and
about 75 other people paid $2 per bullet for the experience of firing a
.50-caliber rifle into tax forms pinned up as targets.
   The Michigan Militia and its Wayne County brigade sponsored the Saturday
shootout two days before Mondays filing deadline. A .50-caliber gun brought
by Dave Franey of Wyandotte was a favorite with the earplug wearing crowd.
   "I love raw power. It's the same reason I love V-8 cars. I just enjoy
shooting. After shooting that, it felt like I needed a cigarette -- and I
don't smoke," Steigman said.
   Since 1995, the Militia and other groups have used the Tax Blast -- held
in Bancroft about 64 miles northwest of Detroit -- to recruit members.
   Steigman wasn't eager to sign up for the militia, but said she had a good
time. Worried at first by rifle-toting, camouflage-wearing security guards
that greeted her as she drove up to the farm, the Garden City Hospital
employee said she relaxed with the rest of the group.
   "I expected a bunch of crazy people, but these people were courteous. I
didn't see any alcohol and I didn't even hear one swear word. This group
isn't what I expected it to be."
   Steigman also got to hear about beliefs and ways of militia members,
including Albion resident Melvin Harris. He hasn't paid income or property
tax since 1995.

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Re: [CTRL] FC: Feds question woman after she emails homophobic politician (fwd)

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  a firing squad would be
 lenient punishment for making the comments and blaming him for helping
 "appoint a dictator to the White House."

DUH!...what the hell did she expect after making a statement like that.

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Re: [CTRL] ????***********VIRUS**************

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Ya sure!!! How many times did you want to send it!


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 Anybody get this - is this a virus.,my web tv does not pick up stuff
 like this and I am curious Yellowbird

 Can someone tell me if this is a joke, pornographic and how did they
 send this over the net using this "" address and nothing else?

 Some type of scam?   So if a virus, ignoredid anyone else on list
 get this? \

 I can only imagine what sent it..



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Re: [CTRL] Golly Wally Doodle . . .

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Read for yourself
http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w95.hybris.gen.html

Technical description:

When the worm attachment is executed, the Wsock32.dll file is modified or
replaced. Once the worm has infected wsock32.dll, it has the abilty to
monitor the Internet connection as well as incoming and outgoing email
traffic. The worm then scans for email addresses. When an email address is
detected whether on an Internet site or in email being sent or received, the
worm waits for a period of time and then sends an infected message to the
detected address.

The worm attempts to connect to the alt.comp.virus newsgroup. If it connects
successfully, then the worm uploads its own plug-ins to this newsgroup in an
encrypted form. It goes thru the subject header of the messages, and tries
to match a specific format. The subject header will also specify the version
number of the attached plug-in if the plug-ins are present. If newer
versions of the plug-ins are found, the worm downloads them and updates its
behavior.

One of the plug-ins for W95.Hybris.gen generates a spiral image. Upon
execution, the plug-in initially loads OpenGL libraries which are used to
draw a large black and white spiral image. It also registers itself as a
service; this prevents it from being displayed in the Close Programs dialog
box. For additional information on this, see the document W95.Hybris.Plugin.

This worm also has a plug-in that infects executable programs. The DOS EXE
infection is fairly simple dropping technique. The virus code is appended to
the end of the file with a small 16-bit dropper routine. This routine
creates a temporary file with an .exe extension in the TEMP folder and
executes it. It then deletes the temporary executable. In this way,
Wsock32.dll is infected with the actual worm body. The PE executables have a
much more complicated file infection process. PE files become infected only
if they have a long enough code section. The virus infection plug-in packs
the original code area and overwrites it if it will fit in the same place.
This complicated antiheuristic infection technique is difficult but possible
to repair.

If Wsock32.dll is being used by the system, the worm cannot modify it. In
this situation, the worm will add a registry entry to one of the following
subkeys:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce

It always alternates between these two keys as the worm spreads from one
computer to another. The worm hooks onto the following exports of
Wsock32.dll:

send()
recv()
connect()

Whenever you send email, the worm sends a second message to the same person,
attaching a copy of itself using a randomly generated file name.



Removal instructions:

To remove the W95.Hybris.gen worm, follow these steps:

1. Run LiveUpdate to ensure that you have the most recent virus definitions.
They must be dated September 25, 2000, or later.
2. Start NAV, and perform a full system scan. Make sure that NAV is set to
scan all files. When an infected file is detected, do the following:
When Wsock32.dll is detected as infected, choose Repair. In most cases, NAV
can repair this file. If NAV cannot repair the file, then you will need to
replace it from the Windows installation CD. If you need to replace this
file, see the instructions in the next section.

NOTE: If NAV cannot repair Wsock32.dll when Windows is in normal mode, then
try to repair it in Safe Mode. This is particularly true if you are
connected to a network; in this case you may see a "sharing violation"
message when NAV attempts the repair. To try this, restart the computer in
Safe Mode. If this is not successful, then you must extract a new copy as
explained in the next section.

Delete all other detected files; their contents have been overwritten by the
worm. You must restore them from backups or, in the case of application
software, reinstall the programs.
3. If you see a rotating spiral on the Windows desktop, you must follow addi
tional steps to remove it. See the section To remove the rotating spiral.

To extract a new copy of the Wsock32.dll file:
This is necessary only if Wsock32.dll cannot be repaired. You need to use
the Extract command at a DOS prompt. Follow these steps to do this, using
the instructions for your operating system.

NOTES:
Have the Windows installation CD available.
When typing the command, substitute the appropriate drive letter for your
CD-ROM drive for the letter x. For example, if you are using Windows 98, and
the CD-ROM drive is the drive D, then you would type

extract /a d:\win98\precopy1.cab wsock32.dll /L c:\windows\system

If Windows is installed in a folder other than C:\Windows, then substitute
the appropriate path or folder name in the last part of the command that
refers to the \Windows\System folder.
For detailed instructions on using the Extract command, see the Microsoft
document How to Extract 

[CTRL] Medical Evidence Gun Control Won't Solve Crime

[tnohava]

 http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/4/6/184457.shtml
Medical Evidence: Gun Control Won't Solve Crime
Wes Vernon
Saturday, April 7, 2001
WASHINGTON – The gun control lobby has just received a stunning setback in a
new article appearing in the spring issue of the Medical Sentinel.
Written by Miguel A. Faria, M.D., the study finds that most gun violence
studies of the past two decades are based on flawed methodology and unduly
influenced by political agendas, leading to biased and incorrect
conclusions.

The Medical Sentinel, the official journal of the Association of American
Physicians and Surgeons, argues in effect that many of those who conducted
the studies decided in advance what they wanted to prove, and then were
"prejudiced" by that goal. Thus, Dr. Faria argues, the studies were not
objective at all.

The doctor, who is editor in chief of the Sentinel, debunks a number of
incorrect, widely accepted claims "promoted by anti-gun interest groups
based on tainted studies."

Faria's findings are that:


Women in particular are NOT in more danger if they carry or own guns.

The ease of access to or availability of guns is NOT the cause of crime.

Mass killings would NOT be avoided if guns were not available.

And finally, gun violence is NOT the leading accidental cause of death in
children.
The health establishment's stated objective in 1979, according to Faria, was
"total eradication of handguns in the United States," and the follow-up
studies were influenced by that objective.

The doctor faults "those in public health with a proclivity toward the
promulgation of preordained research such as the gun and violence research
conducted by many investigators with a gun control agenda and disseminated
in the medical journals."

"Much of this information is tainted, result-oriented, and based on what can
only be characterized as poor science," he concluded.

 Medical Evidence Gun Control Won't Solve Crime.url

[CTRL] ARAFAT GAVE 12G IN GEMS TO CLINTONS

[tnohava]

www.nypostonline.com/news/nationalnews/28002.htm
ARAFAT GAVE 12G IN GEMS TO CLINTONS
Wednesday,April 4,2001

By BRIAN BLOMQUIST








WASHINGTON - In a new gifts twist, Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat
reportedly showered Bill and Hillary Clinton in gold and diamond necklaces,
bracelets and earrings - $12,000 in gifts in all.
In addition, Arafat gave former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright
jewelry worth $17,400, according to this week's New York Observer, which
also reports the gifts to the Clintons.

The Clintons didn't take the gifts with them, so they were sent to the
National Archives with other offerings from world leaders, said aides to the
former president and Sen. Clinton (D-N.Y.).

State Department spokesman Nick Griffith said he didn't know what happened
to Arafat's gifts to Albright.

The Clintons were required to disclose all the gifts they kept when they
left the White House - and the revelation that they tried to walk off with
some gifts that were meant for the White House, not them personally, sparked
a gifts-grab controversy that prompted them to return some gifts.

On their disclosure forms, there weren't any gifts listed as having come
from Arafat, the Palestinian leader who has been strongly criticized -
nearly to the point of being ostracized - by President Bush for Mideast
violence.

 WorldNetDaily.url

[CTRL] Privacy blitz is coming.you lost.

[tnohava]

 http://www.msnbc.com/news/554838.asp
WASHINGTON, April 4 —  The privacy war is over — you lost. Now it’s all
about survival. In the next few months tens of thousands of businesses will
send consumers billions of so-called “privacy notices.” Disguised as
garden-variety junk mail, these notices — required by a new law — hold the
keys to stopping the wholesale flood of your personal information onto the
free market.

 SOME PEOPLE WILL get 20 or more of these privacy notices as
required by the newly enacted Gramm-Leech-Bliley Act, according to financial
law expert Rick Fischer, who testified before a congressional privacy
hearing this week.
   Fischer’s written testimony outlined the broad reach of the Act,
noting that it mandates that banks, retailers issuing credit cards, money
transmitters, check cashers, mortgage brokers, real-estate settlement
services, appraisers, tax preparations services and online companies that
offer aggregation, funds transfer or payment services send out notices to
all their customers to inform them about the types of personal information
being collected, how it’s being used and to whom it will be sold.
   Your mission, should you actually be able to tell a privacy notice
from the weekly dry cleaning discount offer, is to decipher all the legalese
printed in really small type and
allsquishedtogetherlikethismakingitevenhardertoread. Having completed that
task, you then have to follow exacting instructions on how to properly
inform the company that you don’t want them to sell every scrap of your
personal information, which they’ve been collecting from you for the last
three decades.

 The key phrase to look for among these piles of paragraphs is “opt
out.” Because unless you proactively “opt out” or “willingly choose to not
participate,” these companies can sell anything and everything they know
about you unless you tell them not to.
   “Financial and medical records, what you buy, where you shop, your
genetic code, are all exposed in a privacy free-for all,” Frank Torres,
legislative counsel for Consumers Union, told a congressional hearing on
privacy recently. “Complete strangers can, for a price, have access to your
most intimate secrets.”

IT’S ALL SPIT IN THE WIND
   Now, corporate America is wearing this privacy information blitz like
a badge of honor. Its representatives have already testified before Congress
about the great and detailed steps they’ve taken to ensure that consumers
get the all the information they are entitled, by law, to have.
   Corporate America is spitting in our collective face and trying to
sell us on the fact that it’s as fresh as an April rain shower.

   “Failure to pay attention to these privacy notices may result in
sensitive financial data being sold to other companies for marketing and
other purposes,” warns Tena Friery, research director for the Privacy Rights
Clearinghouse.
   But the barrage of paper and the vagueness of the language make it
darn near impossible for anyone to easily make sense of what is taking
place.
   “The notices may actually be telling consumers ‘we can sell
information about your income, debt level, payment history, bankruptcies,
hospitalizations and much more — unless you tell us we can’t,’” Friery said.

The brutal truth about the fallout of the privacy war is that no
part of our lives is left untouched by data collection activities. And it’s
not that all data collection efforts are inherently evil — some are
downright convenient. But convenience is no excuse for the wholesale rape
and pillage of personal information by corporate America.
   There should be a basic right of data ownership in the U.S. and there
simply isn’t. Privacy laws have been built over a century bit-by-bit,
stitched together in a crazy quilt fabric of confusing laws.
   “This means that consumers have lost control over the ability to be
left alone,” Torres told Congress. “Often, consumers have no choice in
whether or not information is collected and no choice in how it is used.
Today, any information provided by a consumer for one reason, such as
getting a loan at a bank, can be used for any other purposes with virtually
no restrictions.”

  So you and I are left with having to buck the increasing trend of
information collection and dissemination. We have to cover our own butts
because no one else will. Trouble is, even when we make the effort, there
are few strong privacy laws in our collective quiver.
   For all the promise of the “opt-out” provision now codified by
Gramm-Leech-Bliley Act, there are enough loopholes in the law — put there by
industry lobbyists when the bill was being written — that the protections
are almost useless.
   “Unfortunately these opt-outs, in reality, will do little or nothing
to prevent the sharing of your information with others,” Torres says.
   The main reason is: Although you can opt out of having a particular
company sell your 

[CTRL] Mars Ruins - Walls, Foundations

[tnohava]

  Whoops!

 http://www.sightings.com/general9/ruins.htm
 Mars Ruins - Walls, Foundations.url

[CTRL] USATODAY-Latest Florida vote review says 'W' would have triumphed by 1,665

[tnohava]

 http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2001-04-03-floridamain.htm
Newspapers' recount shows Bush prevailed in Fla.

By Dennis Cauchon, USA TODAY





Click to see an interactive analysis of Florida's undervotes.

George W. Bush would have won a hand count of Florida's disputed ballots if
the standard advocated by Al Gore had been used, the first full study of the
ballots reveals. Bush would have won by 1,665 votes if every dimple, hanging
chad and mark on the ballots had been counted as votes, a USA TODAY/Miami
Herald/Knight Ridder study shows. The study is the first comprehensive
review of the 61,195 "undervote" ballots that were at the center of
Florida's disputed presidential election.

 USATODAY.com.url

[CTRL] Fw: Dan Rather Comix

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"P.J. Gladnick" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 The charge that Dan Rather is unbiased because he spoke at a Democratic
 Party fundraiser is completely UNFAIR. As Mr. Rather himself explained, he
 had no idea beforehand that this was a political fundraiser. Dan Rather
has
 an exemplary record of unbiased reporting as you can see in the "Dan
Rather"
 Comix story. Check it out for yourself and you will develop new respect
for
 Dan Rather.

 "Dan Rather" Comix
 http://www.pjcomix.com/rather1.html






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[CTRL] Protesters blast Clinton visit

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 http://www.massnews.com/maysal~1.htm
Protesters Greet Clinton at Salem State College
Local Taxpayers Pay for Heavy Security; Police Are Everywhere

By Ed Oliver
March 27, 2001

At Salem State College last night, thousands of people waiting to hear Bill
Clinton’s speech lined up around the perimeter of the jammed parking lot,
slowly filing into the auditorium. Umbrellas were plentiful in the wet
weather.
Two groups of anti-Clinton protesters made their presence known at the
college

Meanwhile, in town a mile or so away, a group of protesters waited on a
street corner for the motorcade to pass.
“This is the grassy knoll,” shouted one street-corner protester to laughter.
Police cruisers with lights flashing blocked the intersections along the
route.
.
Mass News asked some of the street-corner protesters why they braved the
cold, wet weather.

Stan Usevich from Salem answered, “I’m as angry as hell.”

Chris Nulty from Gloucester said, “This is the least I can do.”

Frank from Salem added, “I want to know if Senator Kerry and Mayor Menino
are paying for this and who is paying for all the cops here.”

A Salem mother with her two teenage daughters said that because of Clinton,
her girls grew up “without any concept of what a real president is.” Her
daughter Vanessa said,  “Go home, Clinton.”

Steve from Lynn said he was protesting because evil flourishes when good men
do nothing. “ As a former U.S. Marine, I just can’t handle the way he
treated the military. That’s just disgraceful.”

Peter Marrie from Salem told Mass News, “We fully respect the right of the
former president to speak at Salem State as long as none of our taxpayer
dollars are used, and I understand that’s being tightly controlled. But the
man disgraced the office of the president. He’s fundamentally lacking in
loyalty, character, integrity, courage and leadership. He was president
during a very sedentary eight years, he could have done great things, he’s a
very bright man. But it was all about ‘me.’ It was always all about ‘me.’ It
’s still all about ‘me.’ The guy is a disgrace.”

Marrie positioned himself apart from the others, hoping Clinton would read
his sign, which said, and “If you get a standing ‘o’, know you are among
fools.”

He was not disappointed. Clinton’s motorcade wound through town and passed
the group on the corner. Clinton was not in a limo, but a smaller dark sedan
sitting in the right rear seat. Marrie stood poised on the side of the road
and Clinton looked out the window right at his sign.

Meanwhile, about a dozen pro-Clinton women, dressed up in witch costumes,
called for an end to the “Clinton with hunt."

 Protesters greet Clinton.url

[CTRL] Passive smoking doesn't cause cancer - official

[tnohava]

 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=00Passive smoking doesn't cause cancer -
official
By Victoria Macdonald, Health Correspondent

 THE world's leading health organisation has withheld from publication a
study which shows that not only might there be no link between passive
smoking and lung cancer but that it could even have a protective effect.

The astounding results are set to throw wide open the debate on passive
smoking health risks. The World Health Organisation, which commissioned the
12-centre, seven-country European study has failed to make the findings
public, and has instead produced only a summary of the results in an
internal report.

Despite repeated approaches, nobody at the WHO headquarters in Geneva would
comment on the findings last week. At its International Agency for Research
on Cancer in Lyon, France, which coordinated the study, a spokesman would
say only that the full report had been submitted to a science journal and no
publication date had been set.

The findings are certain to be an embarrassment to the WHO, which has spent
years and vast sums on anti-smoking and anti-tobacco campaigns. The study is
one of the largest ever to look at the link between passive smoking - or
environmental tobacco smoke (ETS) - and lung cancer, and had been eagerly
awaited by medical experts and campaigning groups.

Yet the scientists have found that there was no statistical evidence that
passive smoking caused lung cancer. The research compared 650 lung cancer
patients with 1,542 healthy people. It looked at people who were married to
smokers, worked with smokers, both worked and were married to smokers, and
those who grew up with smokers.

The results are consistent with their being no additional risk for a person
living or working with a smoker and could be consistent with passive smoke
having a protective effect against lung cancer. The summary, seen by The
Telegraph, also states: "There was no association between lung cancer risk
and ETS exposure during childhood."

A spokesman for Action on Smoking and Health said the findings "seem rather
surprising given the evidence from other major reviews on the subject which
have shown a clear association between passive smoking and a number of
diseases." Roy Castle, the jazz musician and television presenter who died
from lung cancer in 1994, claimed that he contracted the disease from years
of inhaling smoke while performing in pubs and clubs.

A report published in the British Medical Journal last October was hailed by
the anti-tobacco lobby as definitive proof when it claimed that non-smokers
living with smokers had a 25 per cent risk of developing lung cancer. But
yesterday, Dr Chris Proctor, head of science for BAT Industries, the tobacco
group, said the findings had to be taken seriously. "If this study cannot
find any statistically valid risk you have to ask if there can be any risk
at all.

"It confirms what we and many other scientists have long believed, that
while smoking in public may be annoying to some non-smokers, the science
does not show that being around a smoker is a lung-cancer risk." The WHO
study results come at a time when the British Government has made clear its
intention to crack down on smoking in thousands of public places, including
bars and restaurants.

The Government's own Scientific Committee on Smoking and Health is also
expected to report shortly - possibly in time for this Wednesday's National
No Smoking day - on the hazards of passive smoking.
 0151484354027rtmo=asxs3JpLatmo=kkVupg=/et/98/3/8/wtob08.html


 Passive smoking doesn't cause cancer - official.url

[CTRL] Demorats Have Failed Again To Return Their Illegal Foreign Campaign Contributions

[tnohava]

 http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=22126
DNC hasn't returned
foreign campaign cash
Judicial Watch says Riady, Lippo Group money still in coffers





By Jon Dougherty
 2001 WorldNetDaily.com

The Democratic National Committee has yet to return illegal campaign
contributions made by members of the Indonesian Riady family and the
Riady-owned Lippo Group, contrary to assurances by DNC officials that the
money had been returned.

According to a statement released Wednesday by Judicial Watch, a Washington,
D.C.-based legal watchdog group, Justice Department lawyers told a federal
court Monday that "contrary to public statements, the DNC has never refunded
or disgorged the illegal foreign contributions" received from James Riady.

DNC officials could not be reached for comment yesterday.

Riady pleaded guilty Monday to campaign finance violations. The court
sentenced him to 400 hours of community service, two years of probation, and
fined him $8.6 million -- the largest fine ever imposed for a campaign
finance violation.

The Lippo executive voluntarily agreed to return to the U.S. from Indonesia
and face a court in exchange for the plea agreement. Had a trial ensued, if
found guilty Riady could have faced a fine in excess of $17 million. He was
facing 87 counts.

Indonesia does not have an extradition agreement with the U.S.; had Riady
chosen to do so, he could have remained there and escaped the charges
indefinitely.

"The issue arose under the [Justice Department's] plea agreement because in
the unlikely event Mr. Riady receives the refunds back from the DNC, he must
turn them over to the United States," Judicial Watch said in its statement.

U.S. District Judge Consuelo Marshall accepted Riady's guilty plea over the
objections of Judicial Watch, which argued that he was not being
sufficiently punished for his crimes. The group submitted a legal brief
outlining their position in court on Monday, but Marshall did not allow them
to present oral argument in objection before she accepted the plea.

Judicial Watch lawyers and officers remain displeased, not only with Riady's
sentence but with the Clinton-era campaign finance scandal in general.

"None of the fat-cat 'white guys' at the DNC or the Clinton-Gore White House
have been held to account," said Judicial Watch chairman and chief counsel
Larry Klayman, "nor have the politicians" involved.

He said Sens. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., Carl Levin, D-Mich., Robert Torricelli,
D-N.J., Mitch McConnell, R-Ky. (and husband to Labor Secretary Elaine Chao),
"and others who received illegal monies from Riady and his operative, John
Huang," have yet to be held accountable.

"Indeed … Chao arranged for [illegal] contributions from Huang to (former
New York Republican) Sen. Alfonse D'Amato," Klayman said. "There is a dual
system of justice, and the high Caucasian echelon of the Washington elite
are currently above the law."

Klayman and Judicial Watch are currently involved with 11 "Chinagate"
lawsuits, the statement said.

"Unlike the Bush administration, we will not be 'blackmailed' into failing
to represent the American people," Klayman said. "The Bush administration
seems afraid of the Republican involvement in the Chinagate scandal, and
this has caused it not to bring about justice."

Assistant U.S. Attorney Dan O'Brien said Riady's plea agreement and
conviction came after a year of steadfast negotiations.

"In return, you have a very high fine, the highest fine in the history of
the United States," he told reporters Monday. "We felt that was an
appropriate sentence because this is one of the more significant and
egregious violations."

 WorldNetDaily DNC hasn't returnedbr foreign campaign cash.url

[CTRL] 357 Magnum scares off rapist

[tnohava]

 http://www.news-press.com/news/today/010319hero.html
Man rescues his neighbor from attacker Intruder break-in awakens woman
By SHARON TURCO, [EMAIL PROTECTED]



CAPE CORAL — Richard Peppers didn’t hesitate when he saw a man beating and
raping his neighbor — he pulled out his Ruger .357 Magnum revolver and
ordered him to stop.

The threat of Peppers’ large frame and scruffy beard scared Rolando Mota
off, saving his neighbor’s life, said Lt. Bill Rivers of the Cape Coral
Police Department.

“A few more blunt traumas to the head would have put her out,” Rivers said.
“If he didn’t get involved the way he did, that woman would have been in a
lot worse shape.”

Authorities say the 45-year-old Cape Coral woman was severely beaten when
Mota broke into her Patterson Road house as she slept at 2:50 a.m. Saturday,
molested her and then beat her unconscious.

Peppers, 54, was awake, and thought the woman’s cries for help were from a
neighbor’s television.

As soon as he stepped outside the front door of his Alabor Lane house he
knew that the cries were real. His neighbor was screaming, “Help me, I’m
being raped. Somebody’s trying to kill me.”

Peppers, who said he has a concealed weapon’s permit, ran back through his
house, grabbed his gun pouch and headed out the back door toward the sounds
of the victim’s screams.

Peppers did not know her.

As soon as he flipped on his backyard light, Peppers saw Mota using one hand
to hold the naked woman’s hair, and the other to punch her, he said. They
were just 50 feet away.

Mota ran, with Peppers close behind, stopping only to cover to the woman
with the red, white and blue cover that had been protecting his
Harley-Davidson.

Other neighbors came to the woman’s aid as Peppers chased the attacker.

Ultimately it was Cape Coral police K-9s that sniffed Mota out of his hiding
place at another neighbor’s house.

“If I had had a clear shot, I would have shot him,” Peppers said.

Mota beat the victim so badly, Peppers described her injuries as looking
like hamburger meat.

Officers say she does not know Mota.

The woman was treated at Lee Memorial Hospital and released Sunday. She did
not answer a knock at her door seeking comment.

Officers arrested Mota, 20, of 1130 Patterson Road, on charges of burglary
with a person present, battery and sexual battery with force.

He is being held in the Lee County Jail without bail.

With talk of the attack still fresh in the middle-class neighborhood mixed
with rental trailers and homes, Peppers doesn’t want to be called a hero.

“It’s important to care,” Peppers said. “I would want someone to do the same
thing if it had been my wife.”

Everybody who got involved should be commended, Rivers said.

“When communities get involved and stand up against the criminal element,
everybody wins,” he said.

 WorldNetDaily.url

[CTRL] 'If I'd had a trigger lock, I'd be dead'

[tnohava]

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/state/article/0,1299,DRMN_21_133822,00
.html
Man faces suspects accused of attacking him after getting ride

Victim had just fixed meal when he was assaulted and stabbed

By Ellen Miller, News Staff Writer

GRAND JUNCTION -- Chuck Harris, his right hand laced with stitches and his
partially shaved head showing scars, came to court Tuesday to eyeball his
attackers.
It was the first time he had seen them since March 1, the day he was
attacked and stabbed repeatedly by young hitchhikers he had befriended.

Harris, a contractor, had picked up three young hitchhikers on his way home
from work, taken them home and fixed them a steak dinner. He was preparing
to offer them work when two of them attacked him, stabbing him repeatedly in
the back, head and hands with knifes they had taken from Harris' kitchen.


The assault stopped when Harris said he would get them money. Instead, he
grabbed a .44-Magnum pistol he kept in a desk drawer and began shooting. He
shot one in the torso. The two others tried to flee in Harris' car, so he
shot out two tires.

Police arrested the pair a short distance from Harris' house.

That was more than two weeks ago. Tuesday, Harris was in Mesa County Court,
watching the legal process unfold.

"I plan to be here, every time," said Harris, 48, who came to court Tuesday
with his mother and two of his three daughters. "I want them to get the
maximum so they don't do this to anybody else."

Tuesday's proceeding set May 25 for a preliminary hearing for the accused
attackers -- Richard Barbee, 25, and Colleen McLean, 18, both of
Bakersfield, Calif. The third suspect, Harold Scott, is in fair condition at
St. Mary's Hospital. Charges are pending his release, police say.

Barbee and McLean remain in jail, Barbee on $500,000 bail and McLean on
$60,000 bail. Barbee faces 17 felony charges, including a first-degree
kidnapping charge that could result in life in prison without parole. McLean
is facing lesser charges.

Harris, whose right hand remains swollen and bruised, said Tuesday that he
will be off work for at least six weeks because four of his tendons were
severed in the attack.

"Working again is still a question," he said. "But I walked a mile today.
I'm feeling stronger."

Harris said the attack took him by surprise and that he was glad his pistol
was easily available.

"If I'd had a trigger lock, I'd be dead," he said. "If my pistol had been in
a gun safe, I'd be dead. If the bullets were stored separate, I'd be dead.
They were going to kill me."

 Denver Rocky Mountain News State.url

[CTRL] Officials attribute drop in crime to required weapons in home

[tnohava]

 http://www.mdjonline.com/StoryDetail.cfm?id=10017128Section=Home%20Page
It’s the law in Kennesaw

Mayor Leonard Church is a staunch supporter of the city’s gun law. ‘You can’
t argue with the fact that Kennesaw has the lowest crime rate of any city
our size in the country,’ he says.

By Jonathan Hamilton and David Burch

Marietta Daily Journal Staff Writer



KENNESAW — Several Kennesaw officials attribute a drop in crime in the city
over the past two decades to a law that requires residents to have a gun in
the house.

In 1982, the Kennesaw City Council unanimously passed a law requiring heads
of households to own at least one firearm with ammunition.

The ordinance states the gun law is needed to “protect the safety, security
and general welfare of the city and its inhabitants.”

Then-councilman J.O. Stephenson said after the ordinance was passed,
everyone “went crazy.”

“People all over the country said there would be shootings in the street and
violence in homes,” he said. “Of course, that wasn’t the case.”

In fact, according to Stephenson, it caused the crime rate in the city to
plunge.

Kennesaw Historical Society president Robert Jones said following the law’s
passage, the crime rate dropped 89 percent in the city, compared to the
modest 10 percent drop statewide.

“It did drop after it was passed,” he said. “After it initially dropped, it
has stayed at the same low level for the past 16 years.”

Mayor Leonard Church was not in office when the law was passed, but he said
he is a staunch supporter of it.

“You can’t argue with the fact that Kennesaw has the lowest crime rate of
any city our size in the country,” said Church, who owns a denture-making
company in Kennesaw.

The author of the ordinance, local attorney Fred Bentley Sr., attributes at
least some of the decrease in crime to the bill.

“I am definitely in favor of what we did,” he said. “It may not be totally
responsible for the decrease, [but] it is a part.”

Although he is pleased with the outcome, Bentley said he was originally
opposed to drafting the law.

“I didn’t think it could be written in a constitutional fashion,” he said.
“Obviously, it was constitutional, because the American Civil Liberties
Union challenged it in court and we won.”

Jones said the ACLU challenged the law in a federal court just after it was
passed. In response, the city added a clause adding conscientious objectors
to the list of those exempt.

Although the law is now being credited with a drop in crime, Jones said that
was not the law’s original purpose. He also pointed out that Kennesaw did
not have a big problem with crime before.

“The crime rate wasn’t that high to start with. It was 11 burglaries per
1,000 residents in 1981,” he said.

According to the Kennesaw Police Department, the city’s most recent crime
statistics show 243 property crimes per 100,000 residents in 1998, or .243
per 1,000.

The city’s crime rate continues to be far below other metro Atlanta city’s
with similar populations, like Decatur. In 1998, Decatur recorded 4,049
property crimes per 100,000 residents.

Jones said one motivation for the council passing the ordinance had to do
with publicity.

“It was done in response to a law passed by Morton Grove, Ill., outlawing
gun ownership within the city limits,” he said. “Several council members
were upset Morton Grove had gotten a lot of attention with their ordinance
so they decided to top them.

“They figured the gun ownership ordinance would knock that city right off
the front pages. They were right.”

Jones said the ensuing publicity surrounding the law has given Kennesaw
worldwide name recognition.

“I have been to Australia and Europe and when I tell people I am from
Kennesaw they recognize the name as the place that requires everyone to own
a gun,” he said.

But Stephenson said the issue was not publicity-driven but issue-driven.

“We believed in the right of people to own guns,” he said.

Jones said he has sold 550 copies of a 1994 book about the first-of-its-kind
law, “The Law Heard ‘Round the World.”

He said the law in its final form has many loopholes, so not everyone is
required to own a gun.

“There are many outs,” he said. “When you look at it, almost anyone could
fit into one of the exempted groups.”

Kennesaw Police Chief Dwaine Wilson said no one has ever been prosecuted
under the ordinance.

Among those exempt are residents “who conscientiously oppose maintaining
firearms as a result of beliefs or religious doctrine.” Others exempt
include the physically and mentally disabled, paupers and those convicted of
a felony.

The law contains no clause addressing punishment for violating the law. If
convicted, City Clerk Diane Coker said punishment would be determined by the
general penalty clause of the Kennesaw Code Ordinance — probably a fine of
about $100.

Jones said the unusual law has not deterred anyone from moving to Kennesaw.

“Our population has increased just like everyone’s in Georgia in the past 20
years,” 

[CTRL] 2 Jesse Jackson pals got pardons

[tnohava]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/metro/chicago/article/0,2669,ART-50416,FF
.html
2 Jackson pals won clemency
Clinton cut activist's fraud sentence amid court appeal, pardoned ex-lawyer



By Todd Lighty
and Andrew Zajac
Tribune Staff Writers
March 11, 2001
Wielding clout to the last moments of President Bill Clinton's term, Rev.
Jesse Jackson successfully pressed for clemency for two longtime supporters,
including one whose looting of government programs for the poor and for
mentally handicapped children was described by a judge as "evil itself."

A second Jackson ally pardoned by Clinton helped bring down a bank, an
insurance company and a newspaper, according to prosecutors.

Both clemency requests went directly to the White House, skirting the normal
process that would allow federal prosecutors to weigh in and possibly oppose
the pleas for mercy.

Jackson said he pressed the case for Dorothy Rivers, a well-known Chicago
social activist convicted of stealing government funds from social programs,
because "she is contrite." But court records indicate that Rivers has yet to
acknowledge responsibility for her crime and continued court appeals of her
5-year, 10-month sentence for fraud, theft and tax evasion even as she
applied for presidential mercy.

In a flurry of now-controversial orders in his last day in office, Clinton
slashed Rivers' sentence by 20 months and pardoned John H. Bustamante, who
pleaded guilty to fraud in 1993 for misspending a $275,000 loan. Clinton
also commuted the sentence of former U.S. Rep. Mel Reynolds, whose plea for
clemency was endorsed by Jackson and U.S. Rep. Bobby Rush (D-Ill.), among
others. The former president turned down Jackson's request for clemency for
his half-brother, Noah Robinson, who is serving a life sentence for
conspiracy to commit murder.

In a recent interview, Jackson said he appealed to Clinton "back in the fall
sometime. ...We spent a lot of time together."

Jackson said all four individuals were worthy of clemency and should not be
lumped with political lightning rod pardons such as that of fugitive
billionaire Marc Rich.

"It never occurred to me that making appeals, to making recommendations for
eligible people, was a dirty thing until all this mess came up," Jackson
said. "This is what you do. You make requests, then there's a process."

But in the cases of Rivers and Bustamante—as in 28 other of the 176 clemency
orders issued by Clinton on Jan. 20—the process omitted routine vetting by
the Department of Justice.


Santa serving champagne

Court files in both Bustamante's and Rivers' cases paint vivid portraits of
respected community leaders using business and government connections to
embark on lengthy sprees of self-enriching fraud and theft.

Rivers, known at one upscale boutique as "the Duchess," cut a stylish figure
as a fashion-conscious social activist, running the Hyde Park-based Chicago
Mental Health Foundation and the Pritzker-Grinker School for children with
behavioral disorders on the South Side.

She also served on the Chicago Plan Commission, was active in the local
Democratic Party and had been a Jackson supporter since the days of
Operation Breadbasket, a predecessor of Jackson's Rainbow/PUSH Coalition.

Rush joined Jackson in supporting a commutation for Rivers, who is still a
Rainbow/PUSH board member.

In defending efforts on Rivers' behalf, Jackson said, "She ain't shot
nobody. She ain't dealt in drugs. She ain't [running] a house of
prostitution. ... She's a good person who overspent a grant or so."

But according to court records, Rivers' troubles went far beyond
overspending. She misappropriated at least $1.5 million in government money
over nine years, treating the coffers of her school and foundation as her
own personal bank account, according to prosecutors.

Rivers even victimized her dying son by running up $70,000 in charges on his
credit card, prosecutors charged in court proceedings.

Court records show that Rivers bought six fur coats, including a $35,000
sable, and dropped $800 on a purse and $3,500 on a dress with grant money
she diverted.

Rivers spent nearly $125,000 in misappropriated funds on party decorations,
invitations, flowers and alcohol for political fundraisers and soirees,
according to government filings in the case.

Among the most lavish and most talked-about events were Rivers' New Year's
Eve parties. Even the invitations were lavish: A Santa Claus would arrive at
guests' homes in a limousine to deliver the invites along with glasses of
chilled champagne.

In a move opposed by federal prosecutors, Rivers was convicted on an unusual
"Alford" plea in which she admitted the government had enough evidence to
prove guilt of fraud, theft and tax evasion while still declaring her
innocence.

The trial court judge, U.S. District Judge Robert W. Gettleman, said it was
only Rivers' age—she was 66 at the time —that kept him from imposing a
harsher sentence. He told Rivers he was troubled by her refusal to 

[CTRL] NSA OVER-RIDE

[tnohava]

 http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/antmag.html

2/24/01 6:23:56 PM Pacific Standard Time
This was sent to me. Where it came from I don't know yet. ANON


David E. Steitz
Headquarters, Washington, DC
February 21, 2001
(Phone: 202/358-1730)
Rosemary Sullivant
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
(Phone: 818/354-0747)

RELEASE: 01-24

SPACE MAPPING MISSION OF ANTARCTICA ABORTED DUE TO NSA OVER-RIDE

In a brief announcment today, NASA and the JPL terminated all further study
of Lake Vostok in S. Antarctica. In an apparent slip of confidentiality,
spokeswoman Debra Shingteller alluded to "National Security Issues" allowing
the NSA to assume full control of what had been an International effort to
explore a huge, under-ice lake near the Russian Vostok research station. Ms.
Shingteller was immediately led away from the podium, and an aid responded
to the many further questions with the same answer: "the project has been
halted due to environmental issues", and that no further releases were
pending. The large crowd of press corp. were left clamoring as the officials
left the stage. Ms. Shingteller has not responded to repeated attempts at
contact.






The above is a report from an official JPL PR rep. who attended the
announcement. The following is part of a letter written to an editor of
Scientific American Magazine (who has requested anonimity). The linked photo
at the end was released by NASA in Jan 2001 seemingly by mistake. It is no
longer available from the official archive.





Approximately 300 miles from the South Pole there is a lake, a very large
lake. It is Lake Vostok. It is also located over 3/4 mile beneath the
Continental Ice Sheet. The best photos of Lk Vostok are from space, where
the outline is clearly visible. Current ice-penetrating radar studies
indicate that the water is up to 2000 ft deep in places, and has an
over-arching dome up to 1/2 mile high. Estimates for filtered light at the
lake surface indicate something like "continuous first morning light" during
Antarctica's summer months. Thermograph imaging proposes an amazing
50-degree average water temperature with "hot spots" near 65 degrees. This
can only be attributed to subsurface geothermal heat sources. At 300 miles
long, and 50 miles wide, the encapsulated atmosphere should have the ability
to cleanse itself through interaction with the lake, and possibly... plant
life.
Also proposed as a possible route for atmospheric interaction with the
lake's environment are what are being labeled "geothermal boils". These are
thousands of bubbles in the ice sheet located in the some 200 sq. miles of
"ice dunes" discovered by the late Russian scientist Ivan Toskovoi who was
stationed at Vostok research base until his disappearance in March 2000. The
surveyed bubbles range from a few to several hundred feet in diameter.

Quite possibly just as exciting as all of the data related so far, is the
discovery through Magnetic Imaging that there is an extremely powerful
source of magnetic energy located at the North end of the lake's shoreline.
As of this writing, no one has suggested an explanation for the magnetic
"anomaly".

As recently as February 2000, at least two international teams were planning
separate probes of the lake. Both consisted of fairly similar robotic
sensors that would have been lowered through shafts(to be drilled). The team
based at Cambridge University, London were sponsored by the UK and US
governments, and backed by NASA technology. For reasons not clear, both
programs have been shelved indefinitely, with NASA going so far as to deny
any involvement, and both governments citing "environmental concerns". An
independent source that visited Norway's research base some 150 miles to the
East stated that a large amount of new equipment and personnel have been
arriving at Russia's Vostok Station over the last six months. This is
interesting considering Russia's current financial situation.

 A final note is a verified dispatch out of Casey Station(AU). The pair of
women adventurers who were attempting to ski across the continent last
month, and were extracted by plane during the last leg of their trip, did
NOT request the intervention. Over the protests of the Australian crew at
Casey, the two were airlifted via an extraordinary 48 hour flight by a USN
Special Forces team out of American Samoa. According to the dispatch the
women were insistent on reporting something unusual they had seen. The
latest news reports have the pair resting in "seclusion".

 NSA OVER-RIDE.url

[CTRL] Attorney St. Louis Republican 'set up'

[tnohava]

 http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=21995
Attorney: St. Louis Republican 'set up'
Sees local Democratic machine behind Internet sex bust





By Jon Dougherty
 2001 WorldNetDaily.com

A St. Louis attorney, Thomas A. Federer, has accused local Democrats with
"setting up" another activist Republican attorney -- charged with soliciting
sex from a minor -- who Federer says was about to uncover local election
corruption.

Federer, whose brother, Bill Federer, made an attempt to unseat Dick
Gephardt, the Democratic House minority leader, in last November's election,
said he believes attorney and local Republican elections director Kevin Coan
was framed by political enemies because "he was getting too close to
uncovering more corruption in our [St. Louis] elections system … and he was
investigating the controversial [Nov. 7] election."

In an e-mail to WorldNetDaily, Federer added: "He had to be taken out."
During his post-election investigation, Coan had already turned up 161
"active" voters in St. Louis districts prior to this week's mayoral primary
whose addresses led to vacant lots or boarded-up buildings.

St. Louis is traditionally heavily Democratic and is currently led by
Democratic Mayor Freeman Bosley Jr.

Coan was arrested last week by police across the river in Alton, Ill., for
allegedly trying to pay a 14-year-old girl for sex. Authorities say Coan
made his solicitation over the Internet, but the "girl" he allegedly
solicited was in fact a male Alton police officer who had set up a sting
operation in a chat room.

Federer said Coan "had received an anonymous call at work saying his wife
had fallen ill while she was shopping at a [Alton] market, and that the
caller was asked by her to call him."

Coan "left right away and, when he got there, he was arrested for supposedly
sending his picture to the undercover agent by e-mail," Federer said.

"How likely would an attorney do that?" he asked. "I've never known Kevin to
be anything but an upright gentleman and an aggressive Republican in a city
and political system locally dominated by Democrats."

Equally odd, Federer said, was that "his picture being arrested was on the
front page of the Post-Dispatch," a St. Louis daily newspaper. "Funny how
the media got across the river so quickly to get that picture."

Federer said he believes someone may have gotten access to Coan's computer
at work "and sent these messages to a jurisdiction … that they knew was
investigating Internet sex."

He said police had seized Coan's computers at home and at work.

Meanwhile, a grand jury continues to investigate charges that voter fraud
may have occurred in St. Louis during the Nov. 7 election.

"Combine abandoned voting machines, unguarded ballot boxes, confusion over
poll closing times, accusations of criminal collusion and throw in a
misleading phone-banking message by Jesse Jackson, and you end up with
election practices that have thrown St. Louis, Mo., into chaos during what
is proving to be the most hotly contested election in American history,"
WorldNetDaily reported Nov. 11.

Also, reports said the grand jury is looking into 3,800 suspect voter
registration cards, many that bear the names of prominent local citizens --
both alive and dead.

And, there is still fallout over an election-night decision by Circuit Court
Judge Evelyn M. Baker to require St. Louis polling stations to remain open
three hours longer than state law permitted, because local Democratic
leaders complained that a shortage of election officials and voting booths,
along with outdated voter registration rolls, had caused many St. Louisans
to lose their right to vote.

Baker's decision was overturned within the hour by an appeals court, but the
polls were still open for a while past the 7 p.m. deadline.

A day earlier, on Nov. 6, now-Rep. William Lacy Clay, D-Mo., son of
incumbent Democratic House member William Clay, announced that the polls
would be open late to accommodate voters.

Democrats alleged that up to 33,000 registered voters had been improperly
removed from voter registration rolls.

In St. Louis, registered voters who do not participate in the previous
year's election are automatically removed from rolls if they do not respond
to notices sent by the election board.

Federer hinted that Gephardt's "political machine" may have something to do
with Coan's arrest. Both he and his brother have a history of animosity with
Gephardt.

A group affiliated with Federer charged Gephardt in October of pressuring
local TV stations into dropping a Federer campaign ad showing Gephardt's
commitments to "radical homosexuals."

Eventually, a U.S. court of appeals ruled that Federer could run the ads,
but the ruling wasn't issued until just days before the election. Until
then, Federer had to pull them.

Also, Federer was sued by C-SPAN because the footage used by the candidate
featured C-SPAN coverage of 

[CTRL] CLINTON LIBRARY TO CENSOR CRITICS

[tnohava]

 http://drudgereport.com/mattl.htm
X DRUDGE REPORT X WED MARCH 07, 2001 20:09:41 ET X

CLINTON LIBRARY TO CENSOR CRITICS; ONLINE CHATS, BULLETIN BOARDS
'HOSTILE-FREE ZONE'

**Exclusive**

Former President Clinton is quietly preparing to launch an online version of
his presidential library -- an online library which will not allow critical
analysis or comments about the nation's 42nd president!

According to sources close to the website's development team, planned chat
rooms and bulletin boards will be strictly monitored for anti-Clinton
comments.

But developers have yet to determine how to keep out any and all critical
sentiment.

Keywords like "Paula", "Kathleen", "Juanita" and "Monica" will not be
tolerated, one well-placed insider told the DRUDGE REPORT .

"You will not see chats with Clinton-bashing," said the source.

http://www.clintonpresidentialcenter.com/index.html is being launched to
showcase the legacy of the Clinton Administration as well as Bill Clinton's
ongoing work with his Presidential Library and Foundation.

Sources also reveal how the online Clinton Presidential Center will not use
the term "impeachment" in any capacity.

A planned "forum" section, designed to be interactive with readers, is set
to go online in the spring.

The site currently invites readers to "please check back soon to discuss
your thoughts on the Clinton administration with others."

Will the Clinton Presidential Center be on the lookout for disrupters,
possibly using keywords: "sink", "cigar", "pardon"?

How about "is"?

"There will never be a chat without a moderator keeping out the kooks," one
insider revealed. "But getting a handle on the message boards could be a
different challenge."

Actorpoliticalactivist Alec Baldwin recently had to close down his message
board after the site was overrun with posts ripping the star for critical
comments he made about George W. Bush.

"Due to the constant and steady stream of offensive material that has been
posted here, regretfully we are closing the Guestbook indefinitely," Baldwin
announced. "Nearly all of the information that has been posted... is
misinformation or disinformation, fueled by political extremists whose only
goal is to harass and disrupt."

Clinton's web designers are determined to avoid the same fate.

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Re: [CTRL] AP: Woman Indicted in Bush Tape Release

[tnohava]

-Caveat Lector-

Does anyone remember "Watergate"?

 -Original Message-
 From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
 Behalf Of Prudence L. Kuhn
 Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 12:11 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [CTRL] AP: Woman Indicted in Bush Tape Release


 -Caveat Lector-

 In a message dated 03/06/2001 8:44:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  WASHINGTON (AP) -- A federal grand jury on Tuesday indicted a
  former employee of a media company that handled ads for President
  Bush's campaign in connection with the release of a Bush debate
  tape to Vice President Al Gore's campaign.

  Juanita Yvette Lozano of Austin, Texas, was charged with mail
  fraud, false statements to the FBI and perjury. If convicted, she
  faces 15 years in prison and a $750,000 fine. The indictment was
  handed up by a federal grand jury in Texas 

 This is really weird.  I believe Robert Novak stole Carter's notes on the
 forthcoming presidential debate, and George Will used them to
 tutor Reagan.
 Neither Novak nor Will was indicted.  I guess it's the same old, same old
 story.  Republicans do it and it's youthful high spirits or whatever;
 Democrats do it and it's evidence of moral depravity.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Yeltsin may have proof Monica was a plant

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There couldn't be anyway with all the resources of the GOP that they could
PLANT more women than Clinton could deal! Now we're going to hear that Mamma
"Warbucks" Rich and all her money was a plant as well.

Word has it with the success Monica has enjoyed marketing her handbags that
she plans on introducing a new line of Stained Dresses. Does anybody know
who presently has custody of the original Clinton/Lewenski Stained Dress? I
wonder how much that would bring on Ebay?

Helloo Jesse!!!


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[CTRL] Enquirer now reporting Clinton, Denise had White House affair

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 http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=21921
Was there more to Rich pardon?
Enquirer now reporting Clinton, Denise had White House affair






 2001 WorldNetDaily.com


The National Enquirer, which recently scooped the rest of the press on two
big political stories -- Jesse Jackson’s love child and Hugh Rodham’s payoff
for pardon work -- is reporting in its latest edition that former President
Bill Clinton was having an affair with Denise Rich, the ex-wife of fugitive
Marc Rich, whom Clinton pardoned on his last day in office.

Congressional investigators in the House and Senate have launched probes to
determine if Clinton pardoned the billionaire Rich in return for $1.5
million that singer-socialite Denise contributed to Democratic causes,
including the Clinton library and Hillary Clinton’s Senate campaign.

Denise Rich was a frequent visitor to the White House -- even while Hillary
was away, reports the Enquirer. According to the supermarket tabloid, better
known for its Hollywood gossip than its investigative political reporting,
eyewitnesses saw Denise Rich and Clinton kissing, holding hands and
disappearing behind closed doors.

An anonymous White House insider is quoted in the article as saying: "It was
common knowledge among staff at the White House that Clinton and Rich had a
much closer relationship than 'just friends.' They know of a sexual
relationship. And they know she has told at least a couple of people about
it."

Marc Rich was indicted 17 years ago in the biggest case of tax fraud in U.S.
history and for trading with the enemy -– the nation of Iran during the U.S.
hostage crisis. He and his family fled to Switzerland.

Denise Rich turned to songwriting while in Switzerland. In 1984, her song
"Frankie" became a hit for the group Sister Sledge.

In another story in the same edition of the Enquirer, an anonymous "top
Justice Department source" is quoted as saying Hillary Clinton lied when she
denied knowing anything about her brother Hugh's efforts to obtain pardons
for a convicted swindler and a major L.A. drug dealer.

"Hillary knew that her brother was involved in trying to get pardons from
the president," the source said. "And this wasn’t the first time Hugh was
involved in trying to get a pardon for someone from his brother-in-law."

The report states Hugh Rodham was in the White House on Jan. 19 and 20 when
Clinton was signing the pardons. The source said Hugh Rodham actually
delivered a pardon petition directly to the president. Hillary Clinton was
also in the White House at the time.

 WorldNetDaily Was there more to Rich pardon.url

[CTRL] Clinton used Rich lawyer as final authority

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 http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=21928
Prez: 'Take Jack's word'
Despite arms-trading report, Clinton used Rich lawyer as final authority





By Paul Sperry
 2001 WorldNetDaily.com


On inauguration eve, as it became clear that former President Bill Clinton
was leaning toward pardoning fugitive financier Marc Rich -- an issue his
staff had thought to be "dead" -- former White House Counsel Beth Nolan
rushed a search of Rich through a Justice Department crime database.

The department's National Crime Information Center reported back some
disturbing news, which only confirmed Nolan's fears that granting Rich
clemency was a bad idea.

It turned out that Rich, who fled the U.S. in 1983 rather than face
racketeering, tax-fraud and other criminal charges, was also under suspicion
of illegal arms-trading.

NCIC also clearly listed him as a "fugitive."

Nolan, testifying before Congress Thursday night, said she gave the
information to Clinton as further evidence he should deny Rich a pardon.

But Clinton ignored the NCIC report and insisted Rich lawyer Jack Quinn --
who also served as Clinton's former White House counsel -- knew better.

"Take Jack's word," Nolan said Clinton told her and other lawyers in a White
House meeting.

Quinn had argued in his pardon petition to the White House -- a copy of
which Justice's pardon attorney Roger Adams didn't see until the last
minute -- that his client was not technically a fugitive and not a security
threat.

Despite Justice's concerns about Rich's allegedly illegal arms-dealing,
Clinton did not seek advice or additional information on Rich from U.S.
intelligence agencies.

Every lawyer at the heated meeting the night of Jan. 19 -- including
Clinton's closest adviser Bruce Lindsey -- had reservations about the Rich
pardon, except for perhaps one -- ex-White House lawyer Cheryl Mills. For
reasons still not clear, she was invited to join in the pardon debate, even
though she no longer worked for the government.

In their testimony, Nolan and Lindsey said they weren't sure if Mills took a
position on the Rich pardon, although e-mails reveal she was included in
discussions on the matter as early as Jan. 5.

Mills at the time was a director of the William J. Clinton Presidential
Foundation, the financial arm of his Little Rock, Ark., library -- to which
Rich's ex-wife Denise Rich had donated $450,000.

Here are other unreported highlights from the House Government Reform
Committee hearing, which continued late into the evening Thursday:


Nolan says she also opposed Clinton's pardons of his former CIA Director
John Deutch, accused of mishandling U.S. secrets; his former HUD Secretary
Henry Cisneros, convicted of lying to the FBI; and his former Whitewater
business partner Susan McDougal, convicted of fraud and contempt of court.

Lindsey testified that he had "no recollection" of talking to Clinton about
his brother-in-law Hugh Rodham's lobbying efforts on behalf of convicted
coke kingpin Carlos Vignali. Lindsey, a White House lawyer and Clinton's
closest aide, talked to Rodham at least twice about commuting Vignali's
sentence.
Clinton has denied knowing about Rodham's role, specifically the $434,280 in
fees he collected -- although the tabloid that broke the original story is
reporting in its latest edition that Rodham, who lived in the White House
residence in the last days of Clinton's term, gave a reprieve application
directly to Clinton.


The ex-president did know, however, that his other brother-in-law -- Tony
Rodham -- was lobbying for the pardons of two bank-fraud felons, Lindsey
said. Lindsey said he was unaware at the time that Rodham had a business
relationship with the couple. Clinton pardoned them last March over
Justice's veto.

In a Dec. 26, 2000, e-mail from another Rich lawyer, New Yorker Bob Fink, to
Quinn, Fink discussed their options for pressing Rich's pardon if White
House lawyers tried to shoot it down. Those options included enlisting
then-Senator-elect Hillary Rodham Clinton.
"The only one that seems to have real potential for making a difference is
the HRC [Hillary Rodham Clinton] option and even that has peril if not
handled correctly," Fink wrote.

He spoke of making the "necessary representation to HRC" and wondered "about
the support this will get in NY."

Hillary Clinton has emphatically denied any involvement or even any
knowledge of the Rich pardon request at the time.


Lindsey, who headed up Clinton's scandal damage control efforts in the White
House, is now a paid consultant to the Clinton library. Among his duties:
Handling the ongoing e-mail reconstruction project involving hundreds of
thousands of unarchived White House messages. He'll also OK requests for
documents from the Clinton archives.

Nolan and former Clinton chief of staff John Podesta are now college
professors teaching future lawyers the law and ethics.

Former Eagles singer 

[CTRL] Denise Rich Donations Flowed

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 http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010302/us/clinton_pardons_97.html
Denise Rich Donations Flowed
Photos

AP Photo



By JESSE J. HOLLAND, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - Denise Rich, ex-wife of pardoned fugitive Marc Rich
(news - web sites), pushed nearly $500,000 toward Democratic causes after a
Rich confidant sent an e-mail saying she should be sent on a '``personal'
mission to NO1'' - whom congressional investigators identify as President
Clinton (news - web sites).

Republicans and a federal prosecutor in New York have been trying to find
out whether there was a money-for-pardon deal in Clinton's grant of clemency
to the billionaire commodities trader.

Rich, who fled the United States in 1983 rather than face racketeering and
other criminal charges, was pardoned by Clinton on Jan. 20 just before
George W. Bush assumed the presidency.

Records examined Friday show there was a flurry of donations from Denise
Rich - who divorced Rich in 1991 - following the ``personal mission''
e-mail, which was released Thursday at a House Government Reform Committee
(news - web sites) hearing.

Clinton supporters have said Denise Rich's contributions to the Clinton
presidential library project came months before talk of a presidential
pardon request.

Indeed, she made three donations to the library foundation totaling
$450,000 - $250,000 in July 1998, then $100,000 in August 1999 and finally
$100,000 in May 2000, two months after the e-mail was written.

The March 18, 2000, e-mail by Rich representative Avner Azulay to Rich
lawyer Robert Fink talks about sending Denise Rich ``on a `personal' mission
to N01 with a well-prepared script. If it works, we didn't lose the present
opportunity - until Nov - which shall not repeat itself.''

The House committee's chairman, Rep. Dan Burton (news - bio - voting
record), R-Ind., suggested ``NO1'' was code for Clinton.

Fink didn't disagree that the reference was to the president. ``It was not a
code that we had, but I read it as you do,'' Fink told the committee at the
hearing.

A seven-month flow of half a million dollars in contributions by Denise Rich
followed the e-mail, starting with $50,000 to Hillary Rodham Clinton (news -
web sites)'s Senate campaign on March 21. Other donations went to the
Democratic Party, Mrs. Clinton's Senate campaign and President Clinton's
library foundation.

Jack Quinn, Rich's attorney in pursuing the pardon and formerly Clinton's
White House counsel, said he did not believe Denise Rich spoke to the
president at that time about the pardon.

``I don't believe this was followed up on,'' he told the committee Thursday.

Committee officials looked at the names of 149 other large donors to the
library foundation this week. On Monday, they expect to see how much certain
donors gave and when. The review was to have occurred on Friday but was put
off until the next week, officials said.

The Clinton foundation also was supplying a list of donors in response to a
subpoena from New York U.S. Attorney Mary Jo White, who is conducting a
criminal investigation into Clinton's pardon of Rich. Clinton issued a total
of 140 pardons and 36 commutations in his final hours in office.

 Denise Rich Donations Flowed.url

[CTRL] Another New Bill of Sale

[tnohava]

http://www.nydailynews.com/today/News_and_Views/Beyond_the_City/a-101921.asp
Another New Bill of Sale
Fund-raiser pushed Prez to pardon perjurer

By GREG B. SMITH
Daily News Staff Writer

 major fund-raiser for the Clinton library helped get the White House to
pardon convicted perjurer William Fugazy after the Justice Department shot
down the request, the Daily News has learned.

New York supermarket mogul John Catsimatidis is a member of an elite
advisory board to the Clinton library and has pledged to raise $1 million
for the sprawling complex in Little Rock, Ark.

He was one of several prominent people who lobbied for Fugazy's pardon, but
his appeal went straight to President Clinton's chief of staff John Podesta.
Catsimatidis says his access helped overcome Justice Department opposition.

"In the last 50 years, I don't know of anyone who's gotten a pardon who
hadn't paid a lot of money to a lawyer or hasn't known somebody,"
Catsimatidis said in an interview yesterday. "How do you create a pardon
other than talking to people?"


William Fugazy (r.) with Yankee owner George Steinbrenner in 1995
Clinton granted Fugazy's pardon in his last hours in office, one of more
than 40 that ran contrary to the Justice Department's clemency rules.

Fugazy said yesterday that he deserved the pardon.

"I don't think I did anything wrong. I think I was entitled to [a pardon],"
he said. "I took a plea. It's the silliest thing I ever did, but that's
life. There was really no case. I just didn't want to embarrass my family."

Fugazy's pardon is the latest example of a possible connection between
contributions to Clinton's library and the access needed to obtain
presidential clemency.

At a House committee hearing this week, investigators pressed senior Clinton
staffers for any links between library donations and pardons, but the former
aides denied any quid pro quo.

Calls to Clinton's office and Podesta were not returned.

Catsimatidis emphasized that Fugazy had the support of many powerful people,
including Rep. Charles Rangel (D-N.Y.), Mayor Giuliani, Manhattan District
Attorney Robert Morgenthau, former White House counsel Bernard Nussbaum and
the late John Cardinal O'Connor.

Nussbaum said yesterday that he called the White House counsel's office to
press the Fugazy pardon with people who used to work for him. He declined to
reveal their names.

"I made a call to the White House counsel's office to people that I know,"
he said. "They said, 'Thank you, good to hear from you.'"

Fugazy has long been a prominent fixture in New York's political and charity
scene. His nonprofit campaigns included fighting anti-Italian bias and
raising money to restore Ellis Island.

But by late 1986, his consulting company, Fugazy International, faced
several suits and owed $10 million to banks and tax collectors, records
show. He filed for personal bankruptcy.

Prosecutors said he transferred assets to a company held in his children's
names but continued to play a central role in running the company.

During a deposition in the bankruptcy case, he repeatedly lied about who
owned the firm, prosecutors said. Under a deal, Fugazy pleaded guilty to one
felony count of perjury.

At his sentencing, he submitted letters of support from Giuliani, O'Connor
and Morgenthau. He was sentenced in September 1997 to two years' probation,
including six months of home detention.

Fugazy's lawyer, former federal prosecutor Andrew Maloney, soon began
pushing the Justice Department to pardon Fugazy. He submitted the Giuliani
letter and got new letters from O'Connor and Morgenthau.

But Justice Department officials insisted they would not support a pardon
for anyone until at least five years after the date of conviction or release
from prison.

"They said, 'Come back in 2003 and we'll be happy to process it,'" Maloney
said.

He said department lawyers suggested he take his case to the White House,
and he submitted the package to Rangel, who took it to the White House
counsel's office.

Meanwhile, Catsimatidis wrote to Podesta, and Nussbaum called his old
colleagues in the White House counsel's office.

"I was aware of the five-year rule, but I was also aware that the President
has discretion," said Nussbaum, who handled the case for free. "I did not do
this in my capacity as former White House counsel. I did this in my capacity
as somebody who knew Bill Fugazy."

 New York Daily News Online  News and Views  Beyond the City  Daily News Exclusive Another New Bill of Sale.url

[CTRL] Roger's pardon a first-family first- 'An outrageous act that set back government ethics by decades'

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 http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=21883
Roger's pardon a first-family first
Scholar: 'An outrageous act that set back government ethics by decades'





By Paul Sperry
 2001 WorldNetDaily.com

Former President Clinton's pardon of his drug-dealer brother, Roger Cassidy
Clinton, hasn't gotten as much press as his last-minute pardons of a wealthy
fugitive and a drug kingpin.

But ethically, it's in the same league, argues a constitutional scholar
still shocked by the act.

For starters, no other president has given clemency directly to a close
relative, notes constitutional law professor Jonathan Turley of George
Washington University.

"There's no precedent for that," he said.

It's also a violation of the Ethics in Government Act of 1978, Turley says,
which prohibits U.S. officials from using their authority to benefit family
members.

"The president's pardon of his half-brother was an outrageous act that set
back government ethics by decades," he said in an interview with
WorldNetDaily.

"This is the most egregious violation of government ethics that I have
reviewed, in terms of a benefit being given to a family member," he added.

Roger Clinton didn't apply for a pardon. If he had, his petition wouldn't
have been given any serious consideration by the Justice Department, based
on long-established guidelines for reviewing pardons, Turley says.

"For one, there was no claim that he was innocent," he said. "On the
contrary, he's admitted guilt."


Roger Clinton

On Nov. 9, 1984, Clinton pleaded guilty to felony charges of distributing
cocaine and conspiracy to distribute cocaine.

"And there was no suggestion that he was given an unfair process," Turley
said. "He's never claimed his rights were violated."

"Finally, there was no question as to an overzealous prosecutor or
over-sentencing," he said. "If anything, Roger Clinton's sentencing was
below the national average" for such drug charges.

On Jan. 28, 1985, Clinton was sentenced to two years in a federal prison on
the conspiracy charge. A three-year sentence on the distribution charge was
suspended.

He ended up serving a little more than a year in a Fort Worth prison. He was
out on probation in the spring of 1986.

"So there was no basis on which a pardon could be granted," Turley said.

He says Clinton clearing his younger brother's criminal record is "a core
ethical violation and constitutes an improper use of official authority."

It's not the only pardon Clinton has granted involving his brother.

Right after winning the 1990 Arkansas governor's race, Clinton pardoned old
pal Danny Ray Lasater of cocaine-distribution charges.

Roger Clinton was named as an unindicted coconspirator in the federal case
against Lasater.


 WorldNetDaily Roger's pardonBR a first-family first.url

[CTRL] An affair between Bill Clinton and Denise Rich

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 http://www.wnd.com/poll.asp
How credible do you find the report of an affair between Bill Clinton and
Denise Rich?

Very credible and I'm not surprised 92.75% (5231)


Somewhat credible 3.95% (223)


Not very credible 1.01% (57)


Not sure 0.76% (43)


Not credible 0.55% (31)


No opinion 0.41% (23)


Other 0.30% (17)


Very credible and I'm shocked 0.27% (15)





TOTAL VOTES: 5640

 WorldNetDaily Daily Poll.url

[CTRL] Gore scraps British visit after firms spurn wisdom of a nearly-president

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 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/World/Americas/2001-03/gore030301.shtml
Gore scraps British visit after firms spurn wisdom of a nearly-president

By Paul Peachey

3 March 2001

The much-vaunted transatlantic "special relationship" appears to stop short
of embracing the inspirational words of failed presidential wannabes.

Having fallen a few dimpled chads short of securing a four-year mandate in
the States, Al Gore has discovered that even a day in his company fails to
tantalise some of the biggest firms in Britain.

After three days of offering cut-price one-day, all-speaking, all-greeting
deals to executives and their clients, his bookers were finally forced to
admit defeat and shelve plans for a flying British visit by Mr Gore and his
wife, Tipper.

The celebrity booking service claimed that lack of time was the main reason
oil, telecommunication and banking companies turned down the opportunity to
spend between 50,000 and 75,000 for "a day with Al Gore" at their offices.

Some of the companies, who had up to 13 days to plan for a visit, told a
different story. "I can think of better things to do with 50,000," said the
Virgin spokesman Will Whitehorn.

The continuing controversy surrounding Bill Clinton's departure from the
White House and his pardon for Marc Rich also put off prospective clients.
The chief executive of Morgan Stanley Dean Witter, was forced to apologise
to clients last month after the American investment bank paid Bill Clinton
70,000 to speak at a conference in Florida.

A source at one of the eight companies approached said: "It was on the heels
of other people having a fairly controversial reaction and it was pretty
short notice. It was the culmination of the two factors."

Mr Gore had a "five-day window" to visit Britain before he made his first
speaking engagement outside America since the presidential election, an
address in Italy on Wednesday. That will be followed by an engagement in
Barcelona the next day. For both, he will command much higher fees than
those being asked in Britain.

Bill Clinton, after his controversial early forays on the speaking circuit,
has also booked engagements outside America and commands more than 170,000
a speech, according to sources.

David Markson, of the British Speakers Bureau, which tried to organise the
booking, said: "He [Al Gore] would have loved to come to London. It was
hoped we could secure a publicity coup for one of the corporations."

 Independent.url

[CTRL] Lott not soft on pardon probe

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 http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=21864
CASH FOR CLEMENCY
Lott not soft on pardon probe?
Office denies reports he's trying to kill congressional investigation





By Jon Dougherty
 2001 WorldNetDaily.com

Aides to Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott, R-Miss., say their boss is not
engaged in an attempt to kill a Senate or a joint House and Senate
investigation into a number of controversial last-minute pardons granted by
former President Bill Clinton before he left office.

The denial was prompted by a New York Post report published Tuesday that
said Lott was "unenthusiastic" about pursuing an investigation in the
Senate.

"Yesterday's Pardongate developments came amid signs that Senate Majority
Leader Trent Lott -- who praised President Bush for ignoring the pardon
issue -- is unenthusiastic about the probe," the Post said.

"And Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., who was leading a separate pardon probe,
appears to have temporarily shelved his investigation," said the paper,
noting: "Several lawmakers added that the plan to merge the House and Senate
pardon probes also is dead."

But an aide in Lott's office told WorldNetDaily late yesterday that the
Senate majority leader has not ended his support for the probe.

"If you go back and review [statements] he has made over the past several
days, where he has talked about that, you'll see … he's been fairly vocal
about it when asked," the aide said, requesting anonymity.

When asked if Lott's office was unequivocally denying the report, the aide
said, "I won't comment on that. I'll let his earlier statements speak for
themselves."

Critics are worried that Lott may be attempting to kill the Pardongate
inquiries in the same way they believe he killed any effort in the Senate to
seriously try Clinton during his impeachment in 1998.

Also, they see a pattern developing whereby the White House and prominent
Republicans in Congress are content to let previous Clinton scandals escape
scrutiny and alleged lawbreakers escape justice.

"Sen. Lott's actions obviously follow President George W. Bush's remarks
that the Pardongate scandal should not be looked into and that instead,
'It's time to move on,'" said Judicial Watch Chairman and General Counsel
Larry Klayman, in a statement.

"Sen. Lott … should be ashamed," Klayman added, saying his organization was
planning an investigation of Lott's "fund-raising activities at the
University of Mississippi."

On Tuesday, Lott -- during a press conference on Capitol Hill -- was asked
about whether he was worried about fallout for Republicans.

"The principal responsibility for looking to see if some laws were violated
with regard to the pardons rests in the hands of the lady that is a U.S.
attorney in New York," Lott said, referring to Mary Jo White's announcement
earlier this month that the Manhattan U.S. attorney's office would
investigate the pardons.

"I have said all along that I thought that the Congress had a responsibility
to carry out … to look into what happened and what did go on here and see if
there is some action that we should take or can take," he said. "It's very
different from some of the hearings … in the past. You try to find out all
you can and see if some remedial action is necessary, and you move on to let
the U.S. attorney do her job."

At issue are the dozens of pardons Clinton granted in the final hours of his
presidency on Jan. 20 that did not receive Justice Department review.

Included in those was a pardon for fugitive billionaire Marc Rich, which
congressional investigators believe may have been granted because of
donations in excess of $1 million given by Rich's ex-wife Denise to
Democrats and Clinton's library fund.

Marc Rich fled to Switzerland in 1983 to avoid prosecution as a tax cheat
and charges he illegally traded with Iran during the hostage crisis.

 WorldNetDaily Lott not soft on pardon probe.url

[CTRL] Hillary is illegal or unethical say 61 per cent of New York voters

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 http://www.theage.com.au/breaking/0102/28/A25721-2001Feb28.shtml
Hillary is illegal or unethical say 61 per cent of New York voters

Source: AP|Published: Wednesday February 28, 9:37 AM



New York - Forty-six per cent of New York state voters believe Senator
Hillary Rodham Clinton did something unethical but not illegal in connection
with pardons handed out by her husband at the end of his presidency, a
statewide poll reported today.

Fifteen per cent believe the former first lady did something illegal,
according to the poll by Marist College's Institute for Public Opinion.
Thirty-nine per cent said she had done nothing wrong.

The telephone poll of 514 registered voters was conducted yesterday and has
a margin of error of plus or minus 4.5 percentage points.

Clinton denied playing any role in then-President Bill Clinton's commutation
of prison sentences for four men convicted of defrauding the federal
government out of millions of dollars to benefit a Hasidic Jewish sect,
which voted overwhelmingly for Hillary Clinton in last year's Senate race.

Forty-six per cent of voters polled said they do not believe that denial,
while 37 per cent said they felt she was telling the truth.

Fifty-eight per cent said they did not believe her claim last week that she
did not know until well after the fact that her brother, lawyer Hugh Rodham,
had received almost $US400,000 ($A767,460) to help win two presidential
pardons. Thirty per cent said they believed her.

"There's clearly damage in terms of people not believing her," said Lee
Miringoff, director of the Marist institute.

Clinton spokesman Jim Kennedy said: "What the poll doesn't ask is whether
New Yorkers prefer their senators to focus on the issues that matter most,
like health care and education. Because that's what Senator Clinton is doing
every day, working hard for all the people of New York."

Twenty-eight per cent of the polled voters were not sure how to rate the job
Clinton is doing as senator; 42 per cent rated her performance as only fair
or poor.

Asked if they felt Clinton would be a good senator, 54 per cent said she
would, a slight drop from 59 per cent in a Marist poll conducted in
December.

 Age Breaking News.url

[CTRL] Guardian Unlimited Observer International Hillary's trouble with men

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http://www.observer.co.uk/Distribution/Redirect_Artifact/0,4678,0-442791,00.
html

Hillary's trouble with men

With a husband and brothers like hers, who needs enemies? Ed Helmore finds
the prospect of a return to the White House vanishing in the wake of the
clemency scandal

Sunday February 25, 2001
The Observer

She looked drained even before it began. Standing on the marble floor of a
Senate corridor in Washington on Thursday, Hillary Clinton wore a hunted
look. It was time to explain.
The former First Lady had become embroiled in the presidential pardons
controversy after it emerged that her brother Hugh Rodham had received
thousands of dollars from two prominent beneficiaries of Bill Clinton's
clemency orders. Squinting into the glare of the television lights, the
junior New York senator composed herself before telling reporters she was
'saddened and disappointed' by the affair.

It was a vintage performance. Red-eyed, she said her brother's 'terrible
misjudgment' was 'a very sad matter' to her personally. 'I was heartbroken
and shocked and insisted the money had to be returned.'

Hillary Rodham Clinton must be rueing her misfortune with men. No sooner had
she embarked on her own political career than the men in her life - husband,
errant brothers and brother-in-law - let her down one by one. Or that at
least is her version of her first calamitous weeks in public service.

This was supposed to be her time of triumph: a first First Lady elected to
office on a landslide victory, with a chance for the White House in four
years time. The impeachment of her husband for lying about his betrayal of
her was in the past, and her own political blunders largely forgotten. She
had two new houses, a daughter about to turn 21, an $8 million book deal and
a husband who would be out of harm's way, building his presidential library
in Little Rock. Everything looked rosy.

But that was before the events of the last five weeks that have left the
Clintons adrift, disgraced and exposed without the defensive machinery of
the highest office in the land. To even their most ardent supporters, the
rashness of their behaviour as their White House years drew to a close has
left the bitter taste of disappointment.

The hoarding of gifts, flouting the spirit of Senate rules with the book
deal, the furniture returned and the accusations of petty vandalism at the
White House - and above all, the unmistakably self-interested use of the
presidential pardon - have all conspired to make the Clintons unwelcome.

And it's Hillary who must pay the political price. 'The Clintons are the
Sopranos,' wrote Washington Post columnist Joel Achenbach in one of the
kinder editorials. 'With each passing day we face a new rash of questions
about the knowledge and motivations of what is now the nation's most
notorious underworld family.'

Polls show public approval slipping for both Clintons in the month since
they left the White House and the revelations could derail Hillary's efforts
to find her footing in the Senate, as well as prospects of an already
longshot 2004 presidential or vice-presidential bid.

Democrat anger at the Clintons is striking, given that barely two months ago
there were high hopes that the couple would lead the party back to control
of Congress and the White House. Even Terry McAuliffe, the Democratic Party
chairman, who calls the ex-President his best friend, says Bill Clinton
should disappear for six months. And last week former President Jimmy Carter
ended his reluctance to comment on the pardons. 'In my opinion, it was
disgraceful,' he said.

Hillary's most ardent supporters are having a hard time accepting her story
that she knew nothing about the pardons. She is also now under the scrutiny
of prosecutors in New York who are to widen their probe of the pardon of
fugitive financier Marc Rich and open an investigation into whether the
sentences of four convicted swindlers were commuted in exchange for a block
of Hasidic Jewish votes during her run for the Senate. Again there was a
denial: 'I did not play any role whatsoever,' she said last month, despite
acknowledging she sat in on a meeting in December with supporters of the
clemency appeal. 'I had no opinion about it'.

The clear subtext of Senator Clinton's denials has been to pass the buck to
the men in her life, particularly her accident-prone husband. A friend of
Hillary told US News  World Report : 'I'm sure she's screaming at him. She
gets mad at him for being so stupid.'

When it was revealed that Hugh Rodham received $400,000 after successfully
lobbying the White House on behalf of Glenn Braswell, a swindler in the
anti-baldness business, and Carlos Vignali, a major cocaine dealer, Hillary
said she knew nothing of the matter. She used the word 'disappointed' 20
times.

Call it bad fortune or bad judgment, but Hillary's got man trouble. In fact,
it's an affliction she's long suffered from. It's not just her husband,
whose character fault-lines have been obvious 

[CTRL] FW: AN EXCEPTIONAL SPEECH

[tnohava]

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-Original Message-

Subject: AN EXCEPTIONAL SPEECH



This is an exceptional speech, which you may have seen before.   If you have
not seen it before,  it is worth reading.

AN EXCEPTIONAL SPEECH

For 50 years, the Harvard Law School Forum has been sponsoring speeches by
luminaries ranging from Fidel Castro to Gerald Ford to Dr. Ruth.  Sometimes
the speeches have generated a bit of media coverage, sometimes not.  But one
given by Charlton Heston has taken on a life of its own.  Heston, the actor
and conservative activist, delivered a stem-winder to about 200 listeners
about "a cultural war that's about to hijack your birthright to think and
say
what resides in your heart."

"He knew he was coming to a liberal environment, and clearly a group of his
listeners was conservative and another was more liberal," said David
Christopherson, president of the forum.  "About half respectfully challenged
him during the questions.  It generated a lot of debate around the campus.
But what happened caught us off-guard."  What happened was Rush Limbaugh's
radio talk show.  On March 15, Limbaugh read the entire speech on the air,
only to find himself bombarded with thousands of requests for a copy of it.
The same thing happened at Harvard Law.  "We couldn't keep up with all the
requests," said Mike Chmura at Harvard.  "It really didn't have legs and
might have been forgotten if Mr. Limbaugh hadn't decided to deliver it."

DLG NOTE: Love them or hate them, Heston's words and ideas provoke some deep
thought.

'Winning the Cultural War' - Charlton Heston's Speech to the Harvard Law
School Forum, Feb 16, 1999

I remember my son when he was five, explaining to his kindergarten class
what
his father did for a living.  "My Daddy," he said, "pretends to be people."
There have been quite a few of them.  Prophets from the Old and New
Testaments, a couple of Christian saints, generals of various nationalities
and different centuries, several kings, three American presidents, a French
cardinal and two geniuses, including Michelangelo.  If you want the ceiling
repainted I'll do my best.  There always seem to be a lot of different
fellows up here.  I'm never sure which one of them gets to talk.  Right now,
I guess I'm the guy.  As I pondered our visit tonight it struck me: If my
Creator gave me the gift to connect you with the hearts and minds of those
great men, then I want to use that same gift now to reconnect you with your
own sense of liberty of your own freedom of thought ... your own compass for
what is right.

Dedicating the memorial at Gettysburg, Abraham Lincoln said of America, "We
are now engaged in a great Civil War, testing whether this nation or any
nation so conceived and so dedicated can long endure."  Those words are true
again. I believe that we are again engaged in a great civil war, a cultural
war that's about to hijack your birthright to think and say what resides in
your heart. I fear you no longer trust the pulsing lifeblood of liberty
inside you ... the stuff that made this country rise from wilderness into
the
miracle that it is.

Let me back up.  About a year ago I became president of the National Rifle
Association, which protects the right to keep and bear arms.  I ran for
office, I was elected, and now I serve ... I serve as a moving target for
the
media who've called me everything from "ridiculous" and "duped" to a
"brain-injured, senile, crazy old man."  I know ... I'm pretty old ... but I
sure, Lord, ain't senile. As I have stood in the crosshairs of those who
target Second Amendment freedoms, I've realized that firearms are not the
only issue.  No, it's much, much bigger than that.  I've come to understand
that a cultural war is raging across our land, in which, with Orwellian
fervor, certain acceptable thoughts and speech are mandated.

For example, I marched for civil rights with Dr. King in 1963 - long before
Hollywood found it fashionable.  But when I told an audience last year that
white pride is just as valid as black pride or red pride or anyone else's
pride, they called me a racist.  I've worked with brilliantly talented
homosexuals all my life.  But when I told an audience that gay rights should
extend no further than your rights or my rights, I was called a homophobe.
I
served in World War II against the Axis powers.  But during a speech, when I
drew an analogy between singling out innocent Jews and singling out innocent
gun owners, I was called an anti-Semite.  Everyone I know knows I would
never
raise a closed fist against my country.  But when I asked an audience to
oppose this cultural persecution, I was compared to Timothy McVeigh.  From
Time magazine to friends and colleagues, they've essentially been saying,
"Chuck, how dare you speak your mind.  You are using language not authorized
for public consumption!"  But I am not afraid.

If Americans believed in political correctness, we'd still be King George's
subjects bound to the British crown.  In his book, "The 

Re: [CTRL] Ban Toy Guns

[tnohava]

-Caveat Lector-

Are people getting killed with toy guns now? If we can't ban them should we
license them along with rigid background checks and require prospective
licensee's complete a Toy Gun Safety Course? If we can get this done then I
think we should license all criminals to complete an Anger Management Course
and make it mandatory they license their stolen guns and knives. My biggest
pet peeve is with all these people incarcerated for either buying or selling
illegal drugs is they aren't charging Sales Tax! Why aren't these Drug
Dealers charging Sales Tax? My God, we let them import their illegal
merchandise into this country Duty Free or with no Tariffs, they have very
little overhead and yet they fail to collect Sales Tax. They even fail to
pay Income Tax and here we have Teletax to make it so much easier for them.
Maybe government should just either ban everything, or license everything
and then just Tax The Hell Out Of Us All!



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 Ban Toy Guns, Congressman Says

 A U.S. Congressmen has introduced a bill to ban toy guns. Yes, *toy*
 guns. U.S. Representative Edolphus "Ed" Towns (D-NY) introduced his
 H. R. 215 on January 3rd, 2001. It reads: A BILL To require the
 Consumer Product Safety Commission to ban toys which in size,
 shape, or overall appearance resemble real handguns. Be it enacted by
 the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of
 America in Congress assembled, SECTION 1. TOY HANDGUNS. The
 Consumer Product Safety Commission shall promulgate a rule in
 accordance with section 9 of the Consumer Product Safety Act (15
 U.S.C. 2058) to declare as a banned hazardous product under section 8
 any toy which in size, shape, or overall appearance resembles a real
 handgun. H. R. 215 has been referred to the Committee on Energy and
 Commerce. (Source: KeepAndBearArms.com)

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[CTRL] Feds probe possible pardon-for-votes deal

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 http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/23071.htm
MARY JO MAY WIDEN PARDON PROBE
Friday,February 23,2001

By DEVLIN BARRETT






 WHITEWATCH: U.S. Attorney Mary Jo White, already probing Bill Clinton's
pardon of Marc Rich, is now considering a look into his clemency for four
defrauders. - Yechiam Gal

Manhattan U.S. Attorney Mary Jo White islooking to expand her criminal probe
of Bill Clinton to determine if he granted clemency to four Rockland County
men in a pardon-for-votes deal, The Post has learned.
White is already probing the ex-president's pardons of financier Marc Rich
and his old business partner Pincus Green.

And now she is considering whether to launch a separate investigation into
Clinton's decision to shorten the prison terms of four New Square men who
stole millions from the federal government, sources said.

New Square, a Hasidic village, voted overwhelmingly for Clinton's wife,
Hillary, in November's Senate race.

"There have been conversations [about the New Square clemency case]," said a
source close to White. "It is under consideration."

But she has not yet opened a formal probe.

The Rich pardon raised eyebrows because Denise Rich, the ex-wife of the
financier, has given over $1 million to the Democrats and $450,000 to help
build the Clinton library.

In the New Square case, Clinton granted clemency to four men who were
convicted of swiping millions in federal education grants by establishing a
fake Jewish school. The clemency came after Clinton held a Dec. 22 meeting
in the White House with then-Senator-elect Hillary Clinton and New Square
religious leader Rabbi David Twersky.

New Square had delivered nearly all its votes to Hillary in the Nov. 7
election, giving her 1,359 votes to just 10 for her opponent Rick Lazio.

The results were almost the mirror opposite of two other all-Hasidic
villages in the area, which gave 3,480 votes to Rick Lazio and only 152 to
Hillary.

Meanwhile, sources said White has served a subpoena on the Clinton library,
asking for a list of donors and contributions made to the as-yet-unbuilt
library.

Clinton lawyer David Kendall is fighting a congressional subpoena requesting
similar documents, saying he will provide the names and amounts given by
some of the donors, but not all.

The congressional subpoena wants the names of everyone who gave the library
$5,000 or more - a request Kendall claims is too broad and would violate the
donors' privacy.

White's office declined to comment on the case.

 NYPOST.COM Regional News MARY JO MAY WIDEN PARDON PROBE By DEVLIN BARRETT.url

[CTRL] FW: URGENT BUSINESS PROPOSAL.

[tnohava]

-Caveat Lector-

A friend of mine received this message tonight, these Nigerian scam artists
just never quit.

-
 STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL.
 DR. BAYO COLE.
 NO. 16, KINGSWAY ROAD,
 IKOYI-LAGOS,
 NIGERIA.
 TEL/FAX:234-1-7747907..
23RD FEBUARY,2001.

 ATTN: MANAGING DIRECTOR /C.E.O.

 SIR,
 REQUEST FOR URGENT BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP.

 FIRST, I MUST SOLICIT YOUR CONFIDENCE IN THIS TRANSACTION. THIS IS BY
VIRTUE OF ITS NATURE AS BEING UTTERLY CONFIDENTIAL AND TOP SECRET. YOU HAVE
BEEN RECOMMENDED BY AN ASSOCIATE WHO ASSURED ME IN CONFIDENCE OF YOUR
ABILITY AND RELIABILITY TO PROSECUTE A TRANSACTION OF GREAT MAGNITUDE
INVOLVING A PENDING BUSINESS TRANSACTION REQUIRING MAXIMUM CONFIDENCE.

 WE ARE TOP OFFICIALS OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CONTRACT REVIEW PANEL WHO
ARE INTERESTED IN IMPORTATION OF GOODS INTO OUR COUNTRY WITH FUNDS WHICH ARE
PRESENTLY TRAPPED IN NIGERIA. IN ORDER TO COMMENCE THIS BUSINESS WE SOLICIT
YOUR ASSISTANCE TO ENABLE US RECIEVE THE SAID TRAPPED FUNDS ABROAD.

 THE SOURCE OF THIS FUND IS AS FOLLOWS : DURING THE  REGIME OF OUR LATE
HEAD OF STATE, GEN. SANI ABACHA, THE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS SET UP COMPANIES
AND AWARDED THEMSELVES CONTRACTS WHICH WERE GROSSLY OVER-INVOICED IN VARIOUS
MINISTRIES. THE NEW CIVILIAN  GOVERNMENT SET UP A CONTRACT REVIEW PANEL
(C.R.P) AND WE HAVE IDENTIFIED A LOT OF INFLATED CONTRACT FUNDS WHICH ARE
PRESENTLY FLOATING IN THE CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA (C.B.N). HOWEVER, DUE TO
OUR POSITION AS CIVIL SERVANTS AND MEMBERS OF THIS PANEL, WE CANNOT ACQUIRE
THIS MONEY IN OUR NAMES. I HAVE THEREFORE, BEEN DELEGATED AS A MATTER OF
TRUST BY MY COLLEAGUES OF THE PANEL TO LOOK FOR AN OVERSEAS PARTNER INTO
WHOSE ACCOUNT THE SUM OF US$31,000,000.00 (THIRTY ONE MILLION UNITED STATES
DOLLARS) WILL BE PAID BY TELEGRAPHIC TRANSFER. HENCE WE ARE WRITING YOU THIS
LETTER.

 WE HAVE AGREED TO SHARE THE MONEY THUS:
 1.  70% FOR US (THE OFFICIALS)
 2.  20% FOR THE FOREIGN PARTNER (YOU)
 3.  10% TO BE USED IN SETTLING TAXATION AND ALL LOCAL AND FOREIGN
EXPENSES.

 IT IS FROM THIS 70% THAT WE WISH TO COMMENCE THE IMPORTATION BUSINESS.
PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS TRANSACTION IS 100% SAFE AND WE HOPE THAT THE FUNDS
CAN ARRIVE YOUR ACCOUNT IN LATEST TEN (10) BANKING DAYS FROM THE DATE OF
RECIEPT OF THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION. A SUITABLE NAME AND BANK ACCOUNT INTO
WHICH THE FUNDS CAN BE PAID.

 THE ABOVE INFORMATION WILL ENABLE US WRITE LETTERS OF CLAIM AND JOB
DESCRIPTION RESPECTIVELY. THIS WAY WE WILL USE YOUR COMPANY'S NAME TO APPLY
FOR PAYMENTS AND RE-AWARD THE CONTRACT IN YOUR COMPANY NAME.

 WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO DOING BUSINESS WITH YOU AND SOLICIT YOUR
CONFIDENTIALITY IN THIS TRANSACTION.

 PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE RECEIPT OF THIS LETTER USING THE ABOVE TEL/FAX NUMBER.
I WILL BRING YOU INTO THE COMPLETE PICTURE OF THIS PENDING PROJECT WHEN I
HAVE HEARD FROM YOU.

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[CTRL] Speaking of Security Breaches

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Results 1 - 10 of about 30,600

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[CTRL] FW: Sweatshops

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-Caveat Lector-

-Original Message-

Nike now lets you personalize your shoes by submitting a word or phrase
which they will stitch onto your shoes, under the swoosh. So Jonah Peretti
filled out the form and sent them $50 to stitch "sweatshop" onto his
shoes.

Here's the responses he got.. fun and games with nike...

From: "Personalize, NIKE iD" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "'Jonah H. Peretti'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Your NIKE  iD order o16468000

Your NIKE ID order was cancelled for one or more of the following reasons.

1) Your Personal iD contains another party's trademark or other intellectual
property.

2) Your Personal iD contains the name of an athlete or team we do not have
the legal right to use.

3) Your Personal iD was left blank. Did you not want any personalization?

4) Your Personal iD contains profanity or inappropriate slang, and besides,
your mother would slap us.

If you wish to reorder your NIKE ID product with a new personalization
please visit us again at www.nike.com

Thank you, NIKE iD

--

From: "Jonah H. Peretti" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Personalize, NIKE iD" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Your NIKE  iD order o16468000

Greetings,

My order was canceled but my personal NIKE iD does not violate any of the
criteria outlined in your message. The Personal iD on my custom ZOOM XC
USA running shoes was the word "sweatshop."

Sweatshop is not:
1) another's party's trademark,
2) the name of an athlete,
3) blank, or
4) profanity.

I choose the iD because I wanted to remember the toil and labor of the
children that made my shoes.  Could you please ship them to me
immediately?

Thanks and Happy New Year, Jonah Peretti

--

From: "Personalize, NIKE iD"  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "'Jonah H. Peretti'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Your NIKE  iD order o16468000

Dear NIKE iD Customer,

Your NIKE iD order was cancelled because the iD you have chosen contains, as
stated in the previous e-mail, "inappropriate slang".

If you wish to reorder your NIKE iD product with a new personalizatio please
visit us again at www.nike.com

Thank you, NIKE iD

 ---

From: "Jonah H. Peretti" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Personalize, NIKE iD" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Your NIKE  iD order o16468000

Dear NIKE iD,

Thank you for your quick response to my inquiry about my custom ZOOM XC USA
running shoes.  Although I commend you for your prompt customer service, I
disagree with the claim that my personal iD was inappropriate slang. After
consulting Webster's Dictionary, I discovered that "sweatshop" is in fact
part of standard English, and not slang.  The word means: "a shop or factory
in which workers are employed for long hours at low wages and under
unhealthy conditions" and its origin dates from 1892.  So my personal iD
does not meet the criteria detailed in your first email.

Your web site advertises that the NIKE iD program is "about freedom to
choose and freedom to express who you are."  I share Nike's love of freedom
and personal expression.  The site also says that "If you want it done
right...build it yourself."  I was thrilled to be able to build my own
shoes,
and my personal iD was offered as a small token of appreciation for the
sweatshop workers poised to help me realize my vision.  I hope that you will
value my freedom of expression and reconsider your decision to reject my
order.

Thank you, Jonah Peretti

--

From: "Personalize, NIKE iD" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "'Jonah H. Peretti'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Your NIKE  iD order o16468000

Dear NIKE iD Customer,

Regarding the rules for personalization it also states on the NIKE iD
website that "Nike reserves the right to cancel any Personal iD up to 24
hours after it has been submitted".

In addition it further explains: "While we honor most personal iDs, we
cannot honor every one. Some may be (or contain) others trademarks, or the
names of certain professional sports teams, athletes or celebrities that
Nike does not have the right to use. Others may contain material that we
consider inappropriate or simply do not want to place on our products.

Unfortunately, at times this obliges us to decline personal iDs that may
otherwise seem unobjectionable. In any event, we will let you know if we
decline your personal iD, and we will offer you the chance to submit
another."

With these rules in mind we cannot accept your order as submitted. If you
wish to reorder your NIKE iD product with a new personalization please visit
us again at www.nike.com

Thank you, NIKE iD

 ---

From: "Jonah H. Peretti" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Personalize, NIKE iD" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Your NIKE  iD order o16468000

Dear NIKE iD,

Thank you for the time and energy you have spent on my request.  I have
decided to order the shoes with a different iD, but I would like to make one
small request.  Could you please send me a color snapshot of the
ten-year-old
Vietnamese girl who makes my shoes?

[CTRL] FW: AMERICA

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-Caveat Lector-

Subject: AMERICA


Joe Smith started the day early,
having set his alarm clock  (made  in Japan) for 6:00a.m.
While his coffee pot (made in China) was perking,
he  shaved with his electric razor (made in Hong Kong).
He put on a dress shirt  (made  in Sri Lanka),
designer jeans (made in Singapore),
and tennis shoes  (made  in Korea).
After cooking his breakfast in his electric  skillet [made in India),
he sat down with his calculator (made in  Mexico),
to see how much he could spend today.
After  setting his watch (made in Taiwan),
to the radio (made in India),
he got in his  car (made in Germany)
and continued his search for a  good-paying American job.
At the end of yet another discouraging and  fruitless day,
Joe decided to relax for awhile.
He put on his sandals  (made  in Brazil),
poured himself a glass of wine (made in  France),
and turned on his TV (made in Indonesia),
then wondered  why he can't find a good-paying job in
AMERICA

A lot of truth.

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[CTRL] Clinton Tells Relative to Return Pardon Money

[tnohava]

 http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010221/ts/clinton_pardons_dc_21.html
Wednesday February 21 8:12 PM ET
Clinton Tells Relative to Return Pardon Money
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Reuters Photo



By Thomas Ferraro

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Former President Clinton (news - web sites) disclosed
on Wednesday his brother-in-law received large payments in connection with
pardons that Clinton gave to two convicted felons but he denied any prior
knowledge of the transactions and insisted the money be returned.

Clinton also said he directed Hugh Rodham, brother of former first lady and
now U.S. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (news - web sites), to return the money
to the felons, one of whom was pardoned, the other of whom had his sentenced
shortened and was freed.

``Neither Hillary nor I had any knowledge of such payments,'' Clinton said
in a statement. ``We are deeply disturbed by these reports and insisted that
Hugh return any monies involved.''

One of two congressional committees already investigating the Clinton
pardons, particularly the one the former president gave to fugitive
billionaire Marc Rich, promptly announced plans to examine the transactions.

``This news is deeply troubling,'' said Rep. Dan Burton (news - bio - voting
record), an Indiana Republican and head of the House of Representatives
Government Reform Committee.

``We intend to look into this,'' Burton said in a statement. ''We intend to
ask Mr. Rodham to give us all the details of whom he represented and how
much he was paid.''

Rodham, a private attorney in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, could not
immediately be reached for comment.

But CNN quoted a letter from Rodham's lawyer, saying, ``My client, Hugh
Rodham, today acceded to his family request that he return legal fees earned
in connection with pardon requests.''

Clintons Unaware, Letter

``My client did not advise President or Senator Clinton of his involvement
in these requests,'' CNN quoted the letter as saying. ''He believes that
they were unaware until this week of his work on his clients' behalf.''

CNN reported that the statement went on to say, ``Hugh Rodham has done
absolutely nothing wrong.''

One of the two felons who paid money to Rodham, Glen Braswell, was among the
140 people who Clinton pardoned on his last day in the White House, Jan. 20,
2001.

The other, Carlos Vignali, was among 36 people who had their sentences
shortened by the former president.

Clinton, in a statement issued by his transition office in Washington, said,
``Yesterday I became aware of press inquiries that Hugh Rodham received a
contingency fee in connection with a pardon application by Glenn Braswell
and a fee for work on Carlos Vignali's commutation application.''

The payment by Braswell was first disclosed by The National Enquirer under
the headline, ``Clinton Pardon Payoff Exposed.'' The tabloid said Braswell
paid $200,000 to Rodham.

There was no immediate word on how much money Vignali paid to Rodham.

Braswell, described as a Miami businessman, was pardoned for a 1983 mail
fraud conviction. He served three years behind bars.

Vignali had his sentence commuted after serving six years of a 15-year
sentence for his involvement in a Los Angeles-Minneapolis cocaine
trafficking ring.

Burton said in his statement his committee would examine the money paid by
Braswell, and a top aide said the panel would also examine the money paid by
Vignali.

Burton, in his statement, said, ``We already know that Mr. Braswell's pardon
was not reviewed by the Department of Justice (news - web sites).''

``Yet again, this makes it look like there is one system of justice for
those with money and influence, and one system of justice for everyone
else,'' Burton said.

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[CTRL] 80,000-plus criminals naturalized to increase support for Democrats

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 http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=21739
INS involved
in voter fraud
80,000-plus criminals naturalized to increase support for Democrats





by Kenneth R. Timmerman
 2001 Western Journalism Center


Mexican President Vincente Fox has said he wants it. Democrat lawmakers on
Capitol Hill have said they want it. Even some labor unions have said they
want it: amnesty for millions of illegal aliens who have been working in the
United States for five years or more, in violation of virtually every
immigration statute on the books.

So far, the White House has not said how President Bush will respond to the
expected overture from Fox when Bush embarks on his first foreign trip
today. A senior administration official, briefing reporters at the White
House before the trip, said the president was "looking at a whole range of
issues," including amnesty and expanding the guest-worker program.

But on Capitol Hill, Democrats led by Rep. Luis V. Gutierrez of Illinois
have laid the legislative bed for a sweeping new amnesty by introducing a
bill on Feb. 7 that would benefit illegals who "have shown a true commitment
to this country and are likely to have made a considerable contribution to
this country." Gutierrez chairs the Congressional Hispanic Caucus Task Force
on Immigration.

Anti-immigration groups claim that as many as seven million illegals are
currently "hiding out" in the United States and could potentially benefit
from the amnesty.

"Amnesty means open borders," said Joan L. Hueter, chairman of the American
Council for Immigration Reform. "Open borders spell disaster."

A flood of new green cards and naturalizations would overwhelm an
Immigration and Naturalization Service that is already stretched thin,
racked by bureaucratic mismanagement -- and that stands accused in a damning
new report by its own inspector general of minting new citizens on the
direct orders of the Clinton-Gore White House in reckless disregard of the
law.

The 684-page INS inspector general report was released with little fanfare
during a congressional hearing in September. Its most stunning allegation --
that the Clinton-Gore White House had hijacked the INS for partisan
political purposes in what amounted to massive voter fraud -- never emerged
as a campaign issue until after election day, when it became evident that Al
Gore owed his near-victory in Florida to hundreds of thousands of
newly-minted citizens in Miami-Dade and Palm Beach counties.

According to the IG report, many of those new voters should never have been
granted citizenship.

Some were convicted felons. Others had overstayed tourist visas and were
working illegally. Close to 200,000 never underwent any background check, so
INS does not know to this day whether they were eligible for citizenship.
Few passed an English language and citizenship test worthy of the name. Some
could not understand their own swearing-in, because the ceremony was
conducted in English.

And yet, Bush White House officials point to campaign pledges by President
Bush to treat immigration "not [as] a problem to be solved, but [as] the
sign of a successful nation," and to speed the naturalization process even
further. To accomplish that goal, aides say, Bush plans to split the INS
into two separate agencies, one that processes green cards and citizenship
applications and a second that polices America's borders.

But before he gets that far, Bush will have to deal with the thorny issue of
fraud, and the political hijacking of the INS.

'A pro-Democrat voter mill'

The investigation into INS shenanigans began with a May 1996 report in the
Washington Times about an INS whistleblower who criticized the acceleration
of the naturalization process under Clinton-Gore. It quoted other INS
employees who revealed the existence of a program known as Citizenship USA,
and questioned the motives behind it.

Citizenship USA was an initiative of Vice President Al Gore that was
ostensibly part of his National Performance Review to "reinvent" government.
Internal White House memos, obtained by the House Judiciary Committee in
1997, showed that the vice president was well aware that the effort could be
perceived as a "pro-Democrat voter mill."

On March 28, 1996, White House aide Doug Farbrother e-mailed Gore detailing
his efforts to get INS to waive fingerprinting and background checks "to
make me confident they could produce a million new citizens before Election
Day."

Gore then wrote Clinton: "You asked us to expedite the naturalization of
nearly a million legal aliens who have applied to become citizens." The
risk, Gore warned, was that "we might be publicly criticized for running a
pro-Democrat voter mill and even risk having Congress stop us."

Congress did complain -- but only after the election.

In response to those complaints, the Joint Management Division of the
Department of Justice hired KPMG Peat Marwick to