Re: [CTRL] 'Our own image'
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-10-29 11:34:56 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Those dang aliens, they're such liars. That, by the way, was indeed the conclusion of Ufologist John Keel in "The Mothman Prophecies" -- and of Brad Steiger too, back in the late '70s, before he bedded a female "Starseed" and, thanks to her, suddenly became a "star" in the New Age circuit ... (Keel, lacking the inspiration of ET "pillow talk," has remained steadfastly skeptical.) The so-called "gods" were as much "little devils" as "angels" ... Read Jacques Vallee's "Passport to Magonia": "Faerie" folk, aka Annunaki, were legendary as TRICKSTERS. If a voice in your head, or from the stars, tells you "TRUST me," why doubt it? ROFL DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] 'Our own image'
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/30/99 4:07:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Those dang aliens, they're such liars. That, by the way, was indeed the conclusion of Ufologist John Keel in "The Mothman Prophecies" -- and of Brad Steiger too, back in the late '70s, before he bedded a female "Starseed" and, thanks to her, suddenly became a "star" in the New Age circuit ... (Keel, lacking the inspiration of ET "pillow talk," has remained steadfastly skeptical.) Keel points out some amazing things with regards to the alien phenomenon. The whole thing is so frought eith obfuscation and lies and misdirection that it is hubris for anyone to try and come up with an all inclusive answer to it all. ** *** "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of seas of infinity, and it is not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but someday the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the deadly light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." H.P.Lovecraft; "The Call of Cthulhu" DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] 'Our own image'
-Caveat Lector- Those dang aliens, they're such liars. -Original Message- From: MICHAEL SPITZER [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 1:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] 'Our own image' -Caveat Lector- On Fri, 29 Oct 1999, earthman wrote: -Caveat Lector- Of course, I should have realised. Thanks so much for your insight LOL! My thoughts exactly! What an erudite dude, huh? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] 'Our own image'
-Caveat Lector- The answer is obvious. Hi guys, I thought I would throw this one to the panel before replying Peter Hi Peter, Hope you are well. I have a question for you. In the Bible it says that God made man is 'Our own image'. If God was the Annunaki, and the Annunaki were reptoids, then how come they made man humanoid? Tis a puzzlement? Any answers? Maybe you can post the question...will be interesting hearing the answer. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] 'Our own image'
-Caveat Lector- Of course, I should have realised. Thanks so much for your insight Peter We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/poleshift - Original Message - From: Stopforth, Jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 4:54 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] 'Our own image' -Caveat Lector- The answer is obvious. Hi guys, I thought I would throw this one to the panel before replying Peter Hi Peter, Hope you are well. I have a question for you. In the Bible it says that God made man is 'Our own image'. If God was the Annunaki, and the Annunaki were reptoids, then how come they made man humanoid? Tis a puzzlement? Any answers? Maybe you can post the question...will be interesting hearing the answer. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] 'Our own image'
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 29 Oct 1999, earthman wrote: -Caveat Lector- Of course, I should have realised. Thanks so much for your insight LOL! My thoughts exactly! What an erudite dude, huh? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] 'Our own image'
-Caveat Lector- Hi guys, I thought I would throw this one to the panel before replying Peter Hi Peter, Hope you are well. I have a question for you. In the Bible it says that God made man is 'Our own image'. If God was the Annunaki, and the Annunaki were reptoids, then how come they made man humanoid? Tis a puzzlement? Any answers? Maybe you can post the question...will be interesting hearing the answer. P.S. Food for thought: When, in trance, Edgar Cayce was asked, "What is needed most in the Earth today?" He responded, "That the sons of men be warned that the day of the Lord is near at hand, and that those who have been, and are, unfaithful must meet themselves in those things which come to pass in their experience." There is a place inside of us, in our soul, where we are connected to guidance-the will of God/One/All That Is. Each of us has the choice, in every moment, to listen to the "still, small voice" of the soul, or to follow the voices of the ego in the mind. The ego-voices lead us into suffering, distortion of truth, and the creation of karma. In high contrast, the soul's guidance increases our experience of joy, gratitude, and peace. Christ Jesus gave us similar advice: "Seek ye first the Kingdom, and all else shall be added unto you." As we approach Omega-Alpha, the distorted results of our ego-identified choices become painfully apparent, but so do the gifts of grace generated from living from our soul. As we move through Omega-Alpha, we will experience virtually instantaneous karmic return, positive or negative. http://members.tripod.com/Chrysalis_Foundation/index.html We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/poleshift DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] 'Our own image'
-Caveat Lector- --- earthman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Hi guys, I thought I would throw this one to the panel before replying Peter I'd say, don't let your ego get between your sense of humor and the DELETE button.. __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] 'Our own image'
-Caveat Lector- On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, earthman wrote: Hi Peter, Hope you are well. I have a question for you. In the Bible it says that God made man is 'Our own image'. I think that most "old" holy texts, no matter the culture or circa, had ONE common flaw (and you all know by now, I HOPE, that when I refer to "old," I mean OLD, i.e., prior to the lies-with-intent that first became present in "holy" texts of the Common Era), and that that flaw is that the ancient authors of these OLD holy texts WERE QUITE UNABLE TO, nor did they even try, DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN THE "REAL" GOD/s AND THOSE STILL BIO-LOCKED, i.e., Anunnaki, et al. SO, when the reference is made as to the current Creation being in and of "Our Image," they mean that the REAL God/s of the loving Higher Heavens DID INDEED make the current Creation in the image of the current TZEVAOT, i.e., HUMANOID! Now whether this is in fact THE REAL DEAL, or not, what SHOULD be gleaned from these OLD texts is that these VERY ancient authors DID INDEED BELIEVE that what they recorded ON ROCK for all future readers WAS THE TRUTH AS BEST THEY WERE ABLE TO DISCERN! As to whether the things they recorded were in fact TRUE or not...well, this can not be known at present, NOR IS IT IMPORTANT as to gleaning REAL/WORTHWHILE revelations from these really OLD ancient holy texts. In other words, these VERY ancient authors DID INDEED believe that we were CREATED in the image of the current God/s of the Higher Heavens, and that our Creator/s were indeed OF LOVE! If God was the Annunaki, and the Annunaki were reptoids, then how come they made man humanoid? Well, again, I don't think that these VERY ancient authors were able to, nor did they even seem aware of the importance of distinguishing between "REAL" gods, and/or "other," i.e., still "bio-locked" ET type false gods, such as the Anunnaki, et al, And IF one reads translations of VERY OLD holy texts with this in mind, then I believe that MANY PROFOUND REVELATIONS are able to be gleaned from the perusal of such VERY ancient holy (i.e., those concerned with such things as our creation, our purpose, our REASON FOR EXISTING, etc.) texts! Tis a puzzlement? NOT! Not if you put on the filter that I allude to above! Any answers? Maybe you can post the question...will be interesting hearing the answer. See above! P.S. Food for thought: When, in trance, Edgar Cayce was asked, "What is needed most in the Earth today?" He responded, "That the sons of men be warned that the day of the Lord is near at hand, Yep, "MY Word will be EVERY WHERE in the final days!" and that those who have been, and are, unfaithful must meet themselves in those things which come to pass in their experience." ??? I don't know about all this, but again, such things to me are not even relevant, i.e., from a scientific stand point, such things AT PRESENT are not able to be determined, NOR ARE THEY THE IMPORTANT THINGS TO BASE ONES MIND SET (filter) ON! There is a place inside of us, in our soul, where we are connected to guidance-the will of God/One/All That Is. Each of us has the choice, in every moment, to listen to the "still, small voice" of the soul, or to follow the voices of the ego in the mind. Sounds OK to me??? The ego-voices lead us into suffering, distortion of truth, and the creation of karma. In high contrast, the soul's guidance increases our experience of joy, gratitude, and peace. REALLY, how can one even argue with such obviously trite truths?? Again, these things are, imo, self evident, and, as the old Kung Fu TV series was, PSEUDO TRUTHS, i.e., unable to be argued with, YET NOT HALF AS PROFOUND AS THEY MIGHT SEEM! Christ Jesus gave us similar advice: "Seek ye first the Kingdom, and all else shall be added unto you." As we approach Omega-Alpha, the distorted results of our ego-identified choices become painfully apparent, but so do the gifts of grace generated from living from our soul. As we move through Omega-Alpha, we will experience virtually instantaneous karmic return, positive or negative. Again, such "fluff" is NOT an analytical types primary concerns! Such tripe is more in line with "New Age" crap:) I hope I set the stage, i.e., the PROPER "mind set" that SHOULD be had when seeking to gain USEFUL information from the perusal of VERY OLD ancient texts. Best to you all, Mike http://members.tripod.com/Chrysalis_Foundation/index.html We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/poleshift DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL
