Re: [CTRL] 'We Must Take America Back...' [Steve Vaus]
Thank you for your honesty, Tenorlove... THIS, as written by [EMAIL PROTECTED], is exactly many of the reasons why I withdrew my teaching credentials going out of college in 1994, and then decided to go into an "organized" profession rather than filling children's minds with (preordained by the NEA) garbage... And I, as well as you, have made many sacrifices to home school. My children have turned out quite well, thank you, without the formality of what America wants to call "a rounded education" from the perverbial public educational system, by the end of 12th grade... And yes, I am one of the critics of the educators whose end product is the education and ignorance coming out of the schools today. Occasionally, I think of all the money I saved NOT ever putting my children in day care... and I often reflect on how our personal relationships have turned out... through the home schooling situation. It is much closer than if we all had to juggle sports, education and professional schedules as I see people do day in day out. Fortunately, I've had no problems with my children either in educational needs, rebellion, drugs or weird diseases... The lessons they learned at the knee seemed to have profited them more than those they were learning at the school!!! They both have well paying jobs and are quite proficient and stable. It's a very sad generation for most Americans... in my opinion. As my dad always said, "Teachers don't deserve more money to teach... it doesn't make them teach any better than they are capable of teaching." He always voted "No" for raises for teachers. And true, money does not help a teacher teach better. However, it does make them follow the protocol of the NEA and local boards who follow the outlines of the NEA a lot closer... and consequently, follow the NWO. But, some of us are the fortunate ones. eagle 1 - Original Message - From: "Tenorlove" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 10:40 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] 'We Must Take America Back...' [Steve Vaus] --- "(Conspiracy Theory Research List)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have taught in elementary school for 23 years, and I want to reassure you that students most certainly are taught about America and history in school. I didn't see the CNN story, but please remember that it's the "in" thing right now to criticize education. I notice that the people who are the most vocal critics are not sacrificing their financial security to dedicate their life to helping children. I didn't see the CNN story either, key word being "story" and very little time for TV anyway, except for a couple of shows on the Home Garden Network. I'm one of those critics of of education. However, my husband and I have made MAJOR financial sacrifices so that we can educate our sons at home. My husband could be making twice as much as he does; he's a CPA working in government (sales tax audits of large corporations), and if he were to take a private sector job, he'd be gone from 6 am to 10 pm and never see the boys. I've turned down 2 promotions (I work weekends in a supermarket) because I cannot work full-time and be the mother that my children need. My house is the neighborhood hangout for the little kids. No, I don't do milk cookies, usually it's orange juice and quesadillas (grilled cheese sandwich on a tortilla, really). :-D I don't know where you teach, SMann, but here in NJ, the emphasis is on passing the state "assessment." The principal at one of the local elementary schools told us at one of the hearings, regarding the state tests: "The fact that 1 + 1 = 2 is irrelevant; it's the pupil's REASONING that is important, not the answer. There are no right or wrong answers." EXCUSE ME??? These tests, he further described as subjective. When I asked what happened if the student and the tester had different philosophies, he wanted to know if I was qualified to speak about tests, i.e., where did I get my Ph.D. in education? The whole hearing only served to prove to me that Ph.D. stands for "Piled Higher and Deeper." If students don't remember what they've been taught about American history, it's because there are so many things that take their attention away from learning nowadays. When I was a child we never went anywhere during the week except to church on Wednesday nights. Elementary children are often out every evening nowadays participating in sports and other activities. Guilty as charged, everything BUT organized sports, and not EVERY evening. But being home schoolers, we aren't slaves to a time clock. If we had to get up at 6 am for school, my 5 year old I couldn't have stayed out on our porch until 11 pm watching fireflies, like we did tonight. Took my 7 year old to see "Rigoletto"
Re: [CTRL] 'We Must Take America Back...' [Steve Vaus]
--- "(Conspiracy Theory Research List)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have taught in elementary school for 23 years, and I want to reassure you that students most certainly are taught about America and history in school. I didn't see the CNN story, but please remember that it's the "in" thing right now to criticize education. I notice that the people who are the most vocal critics are not sacrificing their financial security to dedicate their life to helping children. I didn't see the CNN story either, key word being "story" and very little time for TV anyway, except for a couple of shows on the Home Garden Network. I'm one of those critics of of education. However, my husband and I have made MAJOR financial sacrifices so that we can educate our sons at home. My husband could be making twice as much as he does; he's a CPA working in government (sales tax audits of large corporations), and if he were to take a private sector job, he'd be gone from 6 am to 10 pm and never see the boys. I've turned down 2 promotions (I work weekends in a supermarket) because I cannot work full-time and be the mother that my children need. My house is the neighborhood hangout for the little kids. No, I don't do milk cookies, usually it's orange juice and quesadillas (grilled cheese sandwich on a tortilla, really). :-D I don't know where you teach, SMann, but here in NJ, the emphasis is on passing the state "assessment." The principal at one of the local elementary schools told us at one of the hearings, regarding the state tests: "The fact that 1 + 1 = 2 is irrelevant; it's the pupil's REASONING that is important, not the answer. There are no right or wrong answers." EXCUSE ME??? These tests, he further described as subjective. When I asked what happened if the student and the tester had different philosophies, he wanted to know if I was qualified to speak about tests, i.e., where did I get my Ph.D. in education? The whole hearing only served to prove to me that Ph.D. stands for "Piled Higher and Deeper." If students don't remember what they've been taught about American history, it's because there are so many things that take their attention away from learning nowadays. When I was a child we never went anywhere during the week except to church on Wednesday nights. Elementary children are often out every evening nowadays participating in sports and other activities. Guilty as charged, everything BUT organized sports, and not EVERY evening. But being home schoolers, we aren't slaves to a time clock. If we had to get up at 6 am for school, my 5 year old I couldn't have stayed out on our porch until 11 pm watching fireflies, like we did tonight. Took my 7 year old to see "Rigoletto" last week. Many don't get back to their own homes from the babysitter's until very late afternoon and barely have time to eat dinner before rushing back out the door to football, soccer, basketball, or cheerleading practice. I see that in my neighborhood. I know a couple of mothers who, I would declare in court, spend more time in the driver's seat of their cars than anywhere else. I have been told several times at open house by nice middle class parents that they just don't have time for homework with their busy schedule. Also please remember the children (and they are becoming more numerous every year) whose ability to learn was permanently damaged because of the alcohol, drugs, or the lifestyle that their parents engaged in during pregnancy. We both quit smoking cigarettes when I got pregnant. In our house, alcohol (usually wine) is treated as an accessory to the meal. If it goes with the meal being served, it gets served. If something else is more appropriate, that is what gets served. Trout meuniere goes well with Chablis or Sauvignon Blanc, deep fried trout and hush puppies goes better with iced tea or lemonade. If a child is exposed to certain things 18 hours a day, it's pretty difficult for him/her to concentrate on learning during the 6 hours that we teachers have them. Learning takes place every waking hour, not just the 6 hours a day the teachers have them. My class starts the day with the Pledge of Allegience, and several times during the year I review with them exactly what those words mean. In the grade that I teach we study the geographic regions of the U.S. as well as the history of those places. We also study the branches of government, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights. The teacher in the grade following mine has the children to memorize the Preamble to the Constitution and the Gettysburg Address. I take every opportunity to instill appreciation for what America is all about, and I'm not unusual. Every teacher I know does the same thing in his/her own method. Teachers are some of the most patriot and appreciative people you can find anywhere. However, we are fighting an uphill battle. We can present the information about America, but
Re: [CTRL] 'We Must Take America Back...' [Steve Vaus]
In a message dated 00-07-04 00:08:39 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bard, this movie the Patriot also is almost causing a revival in Americanismthe English are degrading it, but at the same time on CNN today they had a program how our kids are not taught about America and the Constitution today in our schoolspoll showed most kids didn't even know what Bills of Rights was is this done deliberately? I have taught in elementary school for 23 years, and I want to reassure you that students most certainly are taught about America and history in school. I didn't see the CNN story, but please remember that it's the "in" thing right now to criticize education. I notice that the people who are the most vocal critics are not sacrificing their financial security to dedicate their life to helping children. If students don't remember what they've been taught about American history, it's because there are so many things that take their attention away from learning nowadays. When I was a child we never went anywhere during the week except to church on Wednesday nights. Elementary children are often out every evening nowadays participating in sports and other activities. Many don't get back to their own homes from the babysitter's until very late afternoon and barely have time to eat dinner before rushing back out the door to football, soccer, basketball, or cheerleading practice. I have been told several times at open house by nice middle class parents that they just don't have time for homework with their busy schedule. Also please remember the children (and they are becoming more numerous every year) whose ability to learn was permanently damaged because of the alcohol, drugs, or the lifestyle that their parents engaged in during pregnancy. If a child is exposed to certain things 18 hours a day, it's pretty difficult for him/her to concentrate on learning during the 6 hours that we teachers have them. My class starts the day with the Pledge of Allegience, and several times during the year I review with them exactly what those words mean. In the grade that I teach we study the geographic regions of the U.S. as well as the history of those places. We also study the branches of government, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights. The teacher in the grade following mine has the children to memorize the Preamble to the Constitution and the Gettysburg Address. I take every opportunity to instill appreciation for what America is all about, and I'm not unusual. Every teacher I know does the same thing in his/her own method. Teachers are some of the most patriot and appreciative people you can find anywhere. However, we are fighting an uphill battle. We can present the information about America, but how can we be assured that the child will integrate this into his/her value system? We live in a time where Pokemon cards are more valued than learning. The next time you hear someone blasting education, ask them why they did not decide to become a teacher. Then be grateful that there are millions of dedicated people all over the country who are willing to take the abuse heaped on them by the media and parents who are angry because the teacher corrected their child and still go back into the classroom the next day and care about that child and try to help them become an intelligent, thinking citizen. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] 'We Must Take America Back...' [Steve Vaus]
[commentary at end of scroll] FREE .mp3's http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/15/steve_vaus.html We Must Take America BackCountry General Download (3.8 MB) Description: A rousing call to arms by America's premiere patriotic recording artist. This is the song that started it all for Steve Vaus - it's also the song that caused him to be black-balled by the mainstream entertainment industry - even as it was zooming up the Billboard charts in 1992. Credits: Written and produced by Steve Vaus - Engineered by Michael Harris -- Tea PartyCountry General Download (3.2 MB) Description: Samuel Adams had the right idea back in 1773 - now it's time for a modern Tea Party. Credits: Producer Steve Vaus - Engineer Michael Harris - Battle Cry of FreedomCeltic Download (2.7 MB) Description: A wonderful Celtic Skip-Jig rendition of this civil war classic. Credits: Produced by Steve Vaus; Arranged by Steve Vaus and Marti Amado - Star Spangled BannerFolk Download (3.0 MB) Description: After you listen to this rendition you'll forget all the big bombastic version you've ever heard. This treatment will allow you to close your eyes and imagine what it was like when Francis Scott Key wrote this classic - cannon fire in the distance - the sounds of dawn breaking. It is simply breathtaking. Credits: Produced by Steve Vaus - Arranged by Steve Vaus and Marti Amado Good Listening for the 4th, Folks! Time IS SHORT! Only three months left for the Voters to unshackle our chains; Just Say "No" to the Duopoly!! which sucks our dollars for what THEY want to do, and the Underclass is left with scraps to survive on. It's OUR fiat-money! We MUST restore ethics and morality in our Government. Don't look to Bore/Gush to protect your Security, look to Yourself. Liberty = Personal Responsibility. The Reform Party, The Libertarian Party, The Greens, and The Natural Law Party MUST, I repeat, MUST be in the Presidential Debates. Woe if they're not! If they're not, what more evidence do you need to recognize the Truth that we live in a Totalitarian State. Four Months left to deal with your Denial of Reality! Bard Pro Libertate - For Freedom BUCHANAN-Reform http://gopatgo2000.com/default.htm A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] 'We Must Take America Back...' [Steve Vaus]
Bard, this movie the Patriot also is almost causing a revival in Americanismthe English are degrading it, but at the same time on CNN today they had a program how our kids are not taught about America and the Constitution today in our schoolspoll showed most kids didn't even know what Bills of Rights was is this done deliberately? Well Bard, thanks to you and others like you, you have caused a lot of people to wake up to the fact that American is being stolen away, and our children being taught homosexual ity in schools to the exclusion now of history in many areas. So the English are condemning this movie the Patriot.will make it al the more popular. So thanks Bard...you are one of the most patriotic people I have ever met. We have the enemy within tearing this country apart. We have everything we hold dear, being destroyed. But you have been a voice in the wilderness and I for one, if they ever bring that homosexual crap into our schools, there will be one picket outside at least with a signthis is a school house not a training ground for perverts, Happy 4th of July Bard.looks like a blooming good year for the USAalmost like a revival meeting. Every agency in this government in Washington has been invaded by those who would tear us apart from within - treason in the CIA and a President who lives in a cess pool. Mel Gibson is the Man of the Year. A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
