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Re: [illusions] Re: [EWAR] Radar weirdness over Pine Ridge
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Jan 23, 2000
11:10 PST
Good debate. My role is like an old bird dog to sniff and fetch, and drop
the game at the doorstep. The method to sort the chaff is to post it ALL,
sort later:
http://members.aol.com/phikent/orbit/orbitback66.html
1. Received this from a source close to the rez, info/disinfo is rife,
quote:
"I got original mis/disinformation from Martina Lookinghorse on Sunday. On
looking back, that was "spun" to imply that the FBI was in confrontation,
but she never actually *said that.* However, what she said about a standoff
was true. There was probably more truth to the fact that folks were afraid
of another Waco than just manipulation.
Some things were embroidered by folks on-site to get more interest. But
then, when those were proven wrong, and it looked like interest was starting
to drop off, REAL nastiness started going down. There have been incidents
that have not been reported, that the "official" sources have asked me not
to put out, because of possible panic. There have been attempts to drive
through barricades and shoot the place up, averted by tribal police. There
are also factions allied with the tribal council who are trying to incite
the local racist community. People are posting attempts to discredit each
other..." (Futhermore a tip to keep an eye on the following message board):
http://hv.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=002Nb2
2. Also from memory, concerning knocking hardware out of the sky, an
emailer
indicated that such would take two "phased" (I think) beams intersecting.
As
I recall the poster said that intersecting beams heat things up and
parallel
beams cool things down, something like that. Such transmission can
originate
from anywhere on earth using over-the horizon tech. Lot of whispering here
in Seattle about Boeing's research into a new phased radar, something about
the transmitter being positioned, stationary, the signal scans but the
antenna does not move.
3. Additionally, a more exotic possibility, this time perhaps observed from
sat (weather manipulation this time?), quote:
". . . it is possible to focus the potential for the effects of a weapon
through spacetime itself, in a manner so that mass and energy do not
"travel
through space" from the transmitter to the target at all. Instead, ripples
and patterns in the fabric of spacetime itself are manipulated to meet and
interfere in and at the local spacetime of some distant target.
http://www.webaxs.net/~noel/articles/par-sem.htm
Weird waves on radar over Northwest
http://www.cbjd.net/orbit/radar/Vis2pdx2.jpg"
4. Rumors about mind-disrupter tech involves a signal in the 7.6htz
frequency, futhermore, even more astounding, quote:
"On the other hand, it will also be possible to simply pull out a
personality-structure from a person, without his or her consent, and insert
another. Or to alter a given personality structure by just altering and
re-recording the software. This technological possibility, of course, will
certainly be noticed by would-be egomaniacs and dictators, for it can yield
the ultimate mind control. It will also be possible to provide direct input
inside the mind, surreptitiously, from a distance and without the knowledge
and consent of the individual affected."
http://members.aol.com/phikent/orbit/orbitback29.html
Kent Steadman
http://members.aol.com/phikent/orbit/orbit.html
In a message dated 1/23/00 7:32:54 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
There is not enough data to support the suggested theories.
Yes, Electronic weaponry exists in very sophisticated manners, BUT when we
are talking about physical phenomena that "might" be detected by a radar
system, for example- there WILL be physical manifestations in other ways.
Interference in radio signals manifest themselves in some pretty standard
forms that are quantifiable and detectable- they did interfere with the
signal after all.
But what is gained if we see something that we are not familiar with, in a
field we are absolutely not familiar with, and we apply a theory because it
fits?
Nothing is gained.
Just because a child may think that the earth is flat, does not make it
flat.
Field investigations, as suggested very early on, are a good idea, I never
dismissed that.
What I would not accept are the assertions of ecotoday that the Pine Ridge
Reservation site was going to be a site of genocide. I doubt that anyone
in that area will have any problems if they use some common sense, and drop
the "victim mentality" that has propelled many democrat politicians into
office- only to perpetuate