Re: [CTRL] [mindcontrol] Re: Wes Thomas and the Need for Genetic Improvement of the Plan... (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, Kris Millegan wrote: Frank, Please do not keep us informed of your personal affrontations. They are off- topic and do not belong on this list. so keep it up or you can go whine about ME on some other lists. Don't worry boss. I'll tow the line...for America online. You are about 50 posts behind the personal factor here which was resolved long ago. Now I have to wonder if this list is a "prawn" in the AOL game, in other words a little conpiracy against free internet expression in its own right. Didn't AOL have a PR problem for a while because it was discontinuing service for politically incorrect customers? Could it be that this list was then set up to provide the illusion that AOL is a champion of free internet expression. Just wondering boss. I don't want to make waves. You see I have this little "thesis" in mind that internet free expression is one of the biggest lies around in the Orwellian world which calls itself the free world. What could be better than a lot of mind slaves on the internet living with the delusion of free expression? By allowing them to maintain that delusion the Establishment (of which AOL is a part) avoids rebellion and protest. FWP. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [mindcontrol] Re: Wes Thomas and the Need for Genetic Improvement of the Plan... (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/30/99 1:52:50 PM, Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've made yourself a topic of discussion Wes. So I suggest you not harass me again by whining to my ISP webmaster. FWP. Frank, Please do not keep us informed of your personal affrontations. They are off- topic and do not belong on this list. so keep it up or you can go whine about ME on some other lists. Om K Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [mindcontrol] Re: Wes Thomas and the Need for Genetic Improvement of the Plan... (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- You've made yourself a topic of discussion Wes. So I suggest you not harass me again by whining to my ISP webmaster. FWP. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 13:30:11 -0800 (PST) From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [mindcontrol] Re: Wes Thomas and the Need for Genetic Improvement of the Plan... From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, 30 Jan 1999, James Horak wrote: From: James Horak [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 1/29/99 7:55:54 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is Wes just a prawn of The Establishment (see subsequent postings) or is he a CIA/NSA flunky (or both)? Wes allowed several of us to be harrassed into arguing back and thence "kicked out" of his MC-list. It was somehow connected to the KK crowd. Exactly. JCH The broader issue here is how the internet could be used for mind control even on a global scale. Someone else asked off-list for more detail on that TV movie which will be shown here on Rogers Cable on that theme. Sorry-I didn't get the title down. All I have is that it is explicitly on the theme of conspirators using internet to control the planet, Monday at 9:00 PM in Vancouver on Channel 8. Rogers might tell you more via [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Now I'm not saying Wes Thomas IS such a conspirator but his moderating "style" has certainly left some of us wondering if he couldn't be used at least as a case study in how this might be done via discussion lists. He has trotted out all the usual lines to defend his restrictions on discussion, eg (1) these lists are MY private property and I'll do what I want; (2) what I don't like is "off topic"; (3) if you challenge or question that you are "threatening" me and you are "flaming" me; (4) if you bring this up on other lists where I (Wes) am an ordinary subscriber you are "spamming" and violating "netiquette". Finally he has complained to my webmaster knowing that there are local politics in ISP services and he might well put a stop to any exposure of what he is up to by getting ISP service discontinued. Of course list ownership is a reality and netiquette and spamming are realities. But the issue is how these things could be put forward to carefully regulate discussion on the internet and a substantial part of human thinking, attitudes and opinions. Could the mindcontrol agencies like CIA/NSA etc. use a Wes Thomas in this way? Definitely. Consider that the three lists I have been on all cover topics of great military significance: Mind Control; Electronic Warfare and Biowarfare. Now, sometimes I can be off topic like anyone else and I have moderated a half dozen lists so I know that you have to "call" people for being off topic. But I was first called for being off-topic on Biowar when I said that the religious issues and Biblical references in connection with them were crucial in understanding what might motivate biowar. Indeed that got me turfed off. It is most emphatically NOT off topic. But it is a very "sensitive" as well as important issue-the kind that CIA/NSA types want to keep in THEIR control and do not want us unwashed masses to deal with. Also what about the "Green Conspiracy" which I posted to Thomas' Mindcontrol list and which was called off-topic? I was asked on snetnews/lj what my references were for saying that one-third of the planet had been mapped by the ultra-rich for wilderness set-asides as sort of a "private country" of huge proportions. Good question: always get those facts shored up. The kind of facts that the mind contollers don't want you to have. I had to go back a decade in my notes for this. In the late 1980's a Colorado businessman/activist named George Hunt lectured in Vancouver. He had been a host at the "Fourth World Wilderness Conference" in Boulder in 1987. The Green billionaires of the planet were there: Rockefellers, Rothschilds etc. Hunt had the tapes and literature including their map of the planet with 1/3 of its area in wilderness set asides. Hunt's address then was 95 camino Bosque, Boulder, Co. 80302. You can get similar information from the LaRouchies and aside from their prone-ness to unsubstantiated exaggeration I think they have this one right. I asked Hunt about his connection to the LaRouchies and in general he seemed to be mildly anatagonistic to them so they are not from the same choir. Think of it-if you are in a small clique which controls 1/3 of the planet and all its wealth you have created a new country with greater wealth by far than any other. Even Kruchkov, former KGB Chief (before he went nuts and attacked Yeltysn and the new order) said the Green movement would be the next dominant ideological theme on the planet. What better way to seize control over 1/3 of the land on earth than by using a "motherhood" ideology like
Re: [CTRL] [mindcontrol] Re: Wes Thomas and the Need for Genetic Improvement of the Plan... (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Wes has made a supreme ass of himself..once more he has revealed himself as just another pawn. How dare you harass FWP? What unmitigated gall...what chutzpa. I like Wes Montgomery but not this Wes/pawn D -Original Message- From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, January 30, 1999 4:51 PM Subject: [CTRL] [mindcontrol] Re: Wes Thomas and the Need for Genetic Improvement of the Plan... (fwd) -Caveat Lector- You've made yourself a topic of discussion Wes. So I suggest you not harass me again by whining to my ISP webmaster. FWP. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 13:30:11 -0800 (PST) From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [mindcontrol] Re: Wes Thomas and the Need for Genetic Improvement of the Plan... From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, 30 Jan 1999, James Horak wrote: From: James Horak [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 1/29/99 7:55:54 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is Wes just a prawn of The Establishment (see subsequent postings) or is he a CIA/NSA flunky (or both)? Wes allowed several of us to be harrassed into arguing back and thence "kicked out" of his MC-list. It was somehow connected to the KK crowd. Exactly. JCH The broader issue here is how the internet could be used for mind control even on a global scale. Someone else asked off-list for more detail on that TV movie which will be shown here on Rogers Cable on that theme. Sorry-I didn't get the title down. All I have is that it is explicitly on the theme of conspirators using internet to control the planet, Monday at 9:00 PM in Vancouver on Channel 8. Rogers might tell you more via [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Now I'm not saying Wes Thomas IS such a conspirator but his moderating "style" has certainly left some of us wondering if he couldn't be used at least as a case study in how this might be done via discussion lists. He has trotted out all the usual lines to defend his restrictions on discussion, eg (1) these lists are MY private property and I'll do what I want; (2) what I don't like is "off topic"; (3) if you challenge or question that you are "threatening" me and you are "flaming" me; (4) if you bring this up on other lists where I (Wes) am an ordinary subscriber you are "spamming" and violating "netiquette". Finally he has complained to my webmaster knowing that there are local politics in ISP services and he might well put a stop to any exposure of what he is up to by getting ISP service discontinued. Of course list ownership is a reality and netiquette and spamming are realities. But the issue is how these things could be put forward to carefully regulate discussion on the internet and a substantial part of human thinking, attitudes and opinions. Could the mindcontrol agencies like CIA/NSA etc. use a Wes Thomas in this way? Definitely. Consider that the three lists I have been on all cover topics of great military significance: Mind Control; Electronic Warfare and Biowarfare. Now, sometimes I can be off topic like anyone else and I have moderated a half dozen lists so I know that you have to "call" people for being off topic. But I was first called for being off-topic on Biowar when I said that the religious issues and Biblical references in connection with them were crucial in understanding what might motivate biowar. Indeed that got me turfed off. It is most emphatically NOT off topic. But it is a very "sensitive" as well as important issue-the kind that CIA/NSA types want to keep in THEIR control and do not want us unwashed masses to deal with. Also what about the "Green Conspiracy" which I posted to Thomas' Mindcontrol list and which was called off-topic? I was asked on snetnews/lj what my references were for saying that one-third of the planet had been mapped by the ultra-rich for wilderness set-asides as sort of a "private country" of huge proportions. Good question: always get those facts shored up. The kind of facts that the mind contollers don't want you to have. I had to go back a decade in my notes for this. In the late 1980's a Colorado businessman/activist named George Hunt lectured in Vancouver. He had been a host at the "Fourth World Wilderness Conference" in Boulder in 1987. The Green billionaires of the planet were there: Rockefellers, Rothschilds etc. Hunt had the tapes and literature including their map of the planet with 1/3 of its area in wilderness set asides. Hunt's address then was 95 camino Bosque, Boulder, Co. 80302. You can get similar information from the LaRouchies and aside from their prone-ness to unsubstantiated exaggeration I think they have this one right. I asked Hunt about his connection to the LaRouchies and in general he seemed to be mildly anatagonistic to
